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Title: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Nov 30, 2014 at 11:28 AM
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Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jas on Dec 01, 2014 at 02:31 PM
‘Papal Holiday’ declaration mulled
November 30, 2014

The declaration of a Papal holiday is being seriously considered by the government in connection with the forthcoming visit of Pope Francis to the country from January 15 to 19 next year, according to the Papal Visit Central Committee.

“We are seriously considering [the possibility] and in due time we will announce if there is going to be holidays on those days,” said former ambassador to Israel Marciano Paynor Jr. in the CBCP News post.

Paynor said that a Papal holiday will likely be declared, similar to what was done during the visit of Pope John Paul II to the Philippines in 1995.

“When John Paul II came here a holiday period had also been declared … It is under very serious and close study,” Paynor said.

Full article:
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/papal-holiday-declaration-mulled-175354900.html
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 03, 2014 at 04:51 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/12/03/14/welcome-banners-pope-francis-slammed

Classic
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Dec 05, 2014 at 07:36 AM
sa posibleng epekto ni ruby ewan ko lang kung may magawa pang pansamantalang pakitang-Papa na pampapogi ang mga pulitiko na nauna namang sinabi na maging natural.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 12, 2014 at 11:53 PM
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/12/03/14/welcome-banners-pope-francis-slammed

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He told reporters: "There's nothing wrong in welcoming Pope Francis by displaying banners. I hope the banners will not be used to promote one’s self. Baka naman in the end, hindi mukha ni Pope ang nakalagay (In the end, it’s not Pope Francis’ face displayed on the banners)."

Eto ba yun tinatawag nilang "Epal"? Pati ba naman sa pagdating ng isang religious leader uso pa din ang epal? Hehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Ice Storm on Dec 25, 2014 at 07:15 PM
RiteAid drugs and Metro Malls use the photos of Pope Francis with their logos to "greet him".

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/12/03/14/welcome-banners-pope-francis-slammed

Eto ba yun tinatawag nilang "Epal"? Pati ba naman sa pagdating ng isang religious leader uso pa din ang epal? Hehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Dec 29, 2014 at 05:50 PM
tunay na progressibo kaya c pope kiko? Threat kaya cya sa mga conservatives.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Dec 29, 2014 at 07:23 PM
Roads to and from NAIA to be closed on January 15 and 19

If you're either going to or coming from the Ninoy Aquino International Airport on either January 15 or 19, we advise you to adjust your schedule now since the roads around the facility will be closed at certain hours to make way for the arrival as well as the departure of Pope Francis on those respective days.

According to Inquirer.net, Manila International Airport Authority public affairs officer Ma. Consuelo Bungag revealed that Sales Avenue, Andrews Avenue and Domestic Road will be closed to traffic on January 15 from 3pm to 7pm. The same roads will also be closed on January 19 from 7am to 10am.

With the road closures, access to NAIA will reportedly be possible only through the South Luzon Expressway, Bicutan, Sucat and Alabang roads.

Bungag also added that while NAIA Terminals 1 and 2 can still be accessed by the public, Terminals 3 and 4 will essentially be isolated by the road closures. To accommodate passengers who are headed for Terminals 3 and 4, MIAA has reportedly designated NAIA Terminal 1 Parking B as a "jump-off point" for them.

"From (this) staging area, (those travelers) will be brought to Terminals 3 and 4 via shuttle buses owned by NAIA, and these will pass by the air side because that’s the only way we can get them to the two terminals," Bungag said.

MIAA officer-in-charge for airport operations Alvin Candelaria even reportedly suggested that passengers rebook, refund or simply cancel their flights or "go with the inconvenience." If they opt for the latter, then Bungag advises them to be at the airport five to six hours before their scheduled flight.


 Source  (http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/motoring-news/report-roads-to-and-from-naia-to-be-closed-on-january-15-and-19)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 12, 2015 at 04:12 AM
welcome the true vicar of christ pope kiko, progressive marxist? Liberation theologist kaya? http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/663968/pope-concern-for-the-poor-is-gospel-not-communism

Viva il papa !
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 12, 2015 at 03:03 PM
Tatlo daw, isa back-up but didn't mention this Isuzu Popemobile

http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-news/first-look-the-isuzu-d-max-based-popemobile-for-pope-francis-s-visit

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/117052/pope-francis-to-use-3-popemobiles-in-ph-visit/



Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 13, 2015 at 12:11 PM
main. backup& decoy?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: heisenbergman on Jan 13, 2015 at 12:43 PM
I wish a safe visit for the Pope. I'm not the slightest bit religious, but I like what this Pope is doing for the Catholic Church and hope that he stays strong and in good health for a very long time.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: anya618 on Jan 13, 2015 at 05:20 PM
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Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 13, 2015 at 10:03 PM
I wish a safe visit for the Pope. I'm not the slightest bit religious, but I like what this Pope is doing for the Catholic Church and hope that he stays strong and in good health for a very long time.

I'm not Catholic, but I also hope the Papal visit will be without incident. 
 
And I'm very confident that nothing untoward will happen to him here.  Magagaling kasi ang Pilipino pag pinagbuti talaga. 
Si Pope John Paul II nga, muntik nang ma-assassinate dito in the 1995 World Youth Day celebrations.

Napanood ko yon sa Nat Geo, inaresto ng PNP si Murad (the international terrorist), tinorture ng pulis (suntok at siko sa tiyan and broke a few ribs, electrocution on genitals, & waterboarding with a towel on the face).  Ayun, kumanta si Murad, dinaldal yung Pope assassination plan in the Phils, kaya nalaman ng PNP.

Hindi pala sila uubra sa Pinoy ...  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ricky on Jan 13, 2015 at 10:29 PM

I'm not Catholic, but I also hope the Papal visit will be without incident. 
 
And I'm very confident that nothing untoward will happen to him here.  Magagaling kasi ang Pilipino pag pinagbuti talaga. 
Si Pope John Paul II nga, muntik nang ma-assassinate dito in the 1995 World Youth Day celebrations.

Napanood ko yon sa Nat Geo, inaresto ng PNP si Murad (the international terrorist), tinorture ng pulis (suntok at siko sa tiyan and broke a few ribs, electrocution on genitals, & waterboarding with a towel on the face).  Ayun, kumanta si Murad, dinaldal yung Pope assassination plan in the Phils, kaya nalaman ng PNP.

Hindi pala sila uubra sa Pinoy ...  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka)

If im not mistaken yung waterboarding with towel eh tayo sa pilipinas pinag mulan. I tried it myself while taking a shower, ibang klase talaga!

May chance kaya pag sabihan ni pope mga magnanakaw sa govt natin na pwede sila ma-excommunicate pag hindi sila tumigil sa pagnanakaw nila? Mga religioso pa naman mga govt officials natin. Baka pag napahiya eh magbago naman
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 13, 2015 at 10:44 PM
Atty, si Macoy pala sumalba kay Pope noon.

http://www.editinternational.com/print.php?id=47a8873b6af3e
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: edwn1220 on Jan 13, 2015 at 11:26 PM
^ On the contrary, it was just one of the propagandas of Marcos:

 http://rp1.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/10/22/14/how-marcos-tried-claim-credit-saving-popes-life (http://rp1.abs-cbnnews.com/focus/10/22/14/how-marcos-tried-claim-credit-saving-popes-life)

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 13, 2015 at 11:36 PM
I would also have doubt if the news came from ABSCBN.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 14, 2015 at 08:04 AM
It seems to me that we are security overacting or its is just a reflection of our own lack of discipline? In Korea daw, chalk markings lang ang nagsilbing perimeter fence at wala isa man ang tumawid doon para lumapit sa Pope.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: comet on Jan 14, 2015 at 08:35 AM
there should be sir, dito kasi may threat talaga lalo na we have insurgents, sa kanila wala. Tapos predominantly catholic pa ang Pinas so really expect a lot of people to try and get close to the pope
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 14, 2015 at 08:49 AM
nasa +/- 10% percent lang catholics ng koreah... samantalang dito sa atin nasa 85% di lang basta catholic... debotong catholic :)

tsaka tama si coment... previous visit ng mga pope lahat may mga threat di lang matuloy tuloy... kaya nga sakit sa ulo ng head of security ni Pope...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 14, 2015 at 11:35 AM
Yes security of the Pope is our concern pero masyadong KJ naman yung layers na ginawa nilang protection to the extent na di na yata siya makita ng tao na siyang reason bakit sya nandito. Why am I saying this. Ok sa TV me ipinakitang area na ang layers of protection as ganito:

-The nearest to the convoy which is the first layer will be the Police on kapit bisig facing outward,
-Second is the concrete barrier with metal fence on top of it,
-Third is the selected Barangay tanods,
-Fourth will be the center island, and
-the last is another metal fence.

Hahaha when I saw this on TV naisip ko lang masyado na yata tayong UNDISCIPLINED na mukhang di na pwedeng kausapin pa ng matino. Anytime the Pope would want to come down and shake the hands of the people. But with this kind of measure di n talaga pwede, and only the rich and powerful can reach him.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: heisenbergman on Jan 14, 2015 at 12:03 PM
When the Pope was in Korea, all the officials had to do was draw a line with chalk to indicate up to where the public can stand and they had no problems.

Ang #1 problem talaga ng mga pinoy - kulang sa disiplina. Kung makakalusot, susubukan lumusot. Haaay.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 14, 2015 at 12:17 PM
When the Pope was in Korea, all the officials had to do was draw a line with chalk to indicate up to where the public can stand and they had no problems.

Ang #1 problem talaga ng mga pinoy - kulang sa disiplina. Kung makakalusot, susubukan lumusot. Haaay.

Makes you wonder how we can't follow simple rules gayung ang pinag-uusapan na dito ay matters of God, the Pope being a religious icon. And it all goes for all religions (baka maakusahan ako singling out the Catholics).

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 14, 2015 at 02:38 PM
As part of the Security Measure, I heard there will be cellular phone signal black-out in the Luneta area.
For those attending the event in large groups best to find an alternative means of communicating with each other. HTH.

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 14, 2015 at 03:00 PM
If im not mistaken yung waterboarding with towel eh tayo sa pilipinas pinag mulan. I tried it myself while taking a shower, ibang klase talaga!

Posible.

Matagal ko nang narirnig yang bath towel on the face plus running water on a hose. 

Ang objective kasi dito sa atin, pahihirapan ng pulis without leaving obvious bruises.  Kaya mahilig silang sumuntok sa tiyan, hindi sa mukha.  Waterboarding, halos mamatay, pero wala ring marka.

Meron nga akong narinig, suspect sa attempted rape of a 10 year old, policewoman ang investigator, nabuwisit sa kasinungalingan ng suspect, biglang hinampas ni policewoman ng lumang phone book sa sentido (side of the head).  Nagulat nga yung tatay ng complainant.  Hilo yung suspect, pero walang marka sa mukha...  :D     

 
Atty, si Macoy pala sumalba kay Pope noon.

http://www.editinternational.com/print.php?id=47a8873b6af3e (http://www.editinternational.com/print.php?id=47a8873b6af3e)

Thanks for the info.  Ngayon ko lang narinig ito...  :o
 
Nag google ako for more info, ito yung mukhang credible na blog, papal security guards saved the pope daw:
 
https://anywhereiwander.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/memoir-blog-23-a-date-with-the-pope/ (https://anywhereiwander.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/memoir-blog-23-a-date-with-the-pope/)
 
 
It seems to me that we are security overacting or its is just a reflection of our own lack of discipline? In Korea daw, chalk markings lang ang nagsilbing perimeter fence at wala isa man ang tumawid doon para lumapit sa Pope.

Sa akin naman, mabuti na rin yung over prepared ang security.  Kasi pag may nangyari kay Pope, nakakhiya tayo, baka sabihin ang tatanga ng mga Pinoy...
 
Mas problematic talaga ang situation dito.  Sa South Korea, 5 million catholics lang.  Dito, 80 million catholics. 
 
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Tama ba yung naririnig ko, our popemobiles are not bulletproof, tapos open pa yung sides? 
 
Nakakatakot naman yon.  Pero ganon daw ang gusto ni Pope, kahit alam niya na puwede siyang ma-snipe.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: syoti on Jan 14, 2015 at 10:43 PM
does anyone know where i can get passes for the meeting with the families event at moa arena? thanks
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 15, 2015 at 08:48 PM
Was one of the volunteer human barricade for the Pope's arrival awhile ago in Naia Road. 1st Layer was the Police then we are infront of them and behind us are the volunteers from LGUs. Nakakalungkot lang was the convoy was too fast... We thought around 15 to 20kph lang ang takbo pero it was around 30 to 40kph kaya isang iglap lang namin nasulyapan si Pope Kiko. Nakakaawa din yung mga taong tumayo at naghintay ng more than 6 hours... Hopefully sa Monday bagal bagalan naman nila.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: comet on Jan 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM
watched only sa tv, but got goosebumps all over. Back in 1995, I got to see st john paul II at ust and papal nuncio, sarap ng pakiramdam seeing the pope.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zram18 on Jan 15, 2015 at 10:18 PM
im also glad and happy to see the pope kahit sa tv lang. parang ang bilis nga ng takbo ng pope mobile...kala ko ba 10km/h lang takbo sa plano.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 15, 2015 at 10:22 PM
napansin din namin na masyadong mabilis yung takbo ng pope mobile. ganun ba talaga dapat.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 15, 2015 at 10:43 PM
Kailangan siguro bilisan dahil gabi na. Mobile phone signal were also deactivated.

Note from Sun.

Sun Cellular said: " Folks, in the interest of national security and the safety of the Pope, the government has asked us to temporarily suspend our network services in areas of Metro Manila and parts of Cavite and Bataan. "

Tomorrow will be the best time to see the Pope on his way to MOA between 330-5PM.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 16, 2015 at 12:41 AM

Welcome Home your Holiness Pope Francis...

Just watching the news on TV and listened to live broadcast at internet radio was completely different and mix feelings...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Morbidmetal on Jan 16, 2015 at 03:29 AM
Kailangan siguro bilisan dahil gabi na. Mobile phone signal were also deactivated.

Note from Sun.

Sun Cellular said: " Folks, in the interest of national security and the safety of the Pope, the government has asked us to temporarily suspend our network services in areas of Metro Manila and parts of Cavite and Bataan. "

Tomorrow will be the best time to see the Pope on his way to MOA between 330-5PM.

Is the pope a man of little faith? Can't he trust his life to god? Di ba dapat " thy will be done"? The way i see it parang grabe secirity forr a church leader. Mgkano kaya gastos ng gobyerno natin?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 16, 2015 at 07:00 AM
http://www.phaccess.com/2015/01/film-director-criticizes-pope-francis.html

KSP lang :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dodie on Jan 16, 2015 at 07:22 AM
Is the pope a man of little faith? Can't he trust his life to god? Di ba dapat " thy will be done"? The way i see it parang grabe secirity forr a church leader. Mgkano kaya gastos ng gobyerno natin?

he is a church leader and at the same time head of a state. expense is irrelivant compared to the impact of his visit among the faithfuls whom im think comprises 80 percent of our population.


http://www.phaccess.com/2015/01/film-director-criticizes-pope-francis.html

KSP lang :)

kala ko si ano eh......di naman siguro ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 16, 2015 at 07:49 AM
Was one of the volunteer human barricade for the Pope's arrival awhile ago in Naia Road. 1st Layer was the Police then we are infront of them and behind us are the volunteers from LGUs. Nakakalungkot lang was the convoy was too fast... We thought around 15 to 20kph lang ang takbo pero it was around 30 to 40kph kaya isang iglap lang namin nasulyapan si Pope Kiko. Nakakaawa din yung mga taong tumayo at naghintay ng more than 6 hours... Hopefully sa Monday bagal bagalan naman nila.

This is to protect the Pope from the unruly poor people who are supposed to be the reason of his visit. hehehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 16, 2015 at 09:15 AM
Is the pope a man of little faith? Can't he trust his life to god? Di ba dapat " thy will be done"?

If you are a believer, hindi lang sa pope applicable ang "thy will be done". Lahat po tayo. In essense, do you mean dapat walang gagawin ang pope or host country for his security? Parang malabong logic yun sir. It's like saying huwag na tayong kumain, kumilos, mag-aral mag-isip kung "thy will be done". It is only applicable only after you exhausted all efforts in doing something to achieve a certain goal, tapos either you are not sure if you will be sucessful, dito mo gagamitin ang "thy will be done".
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 16, 2015 at 09:40 AM
My favorite pinoy salawikain: "Nasa Diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa."

Title: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 16, 2015 at 10:02 AM
This is to protect the Pope from the unruly poor people who are supposed to be the reason of his visit. hehehe!

Actually hindi naman unruly yung mga audience last night...
All of them eagerly and patiently waited for the Pope...
Pero most of them were really disappointed dahil sobrang bilis talaga nung convoy.
Halos hindi mo na-feel yung Holy Presence nya.
Unlike yung kay Pope John Paul 2 dati, yung mga tao nag-iiyakan nung makita siya.
Kagabi yung mga tao makikita mong may kalungkutan sa mukha dahil yung iba likod na lang ang nakita kay Pope Francis.

Mga naririnig kong reactions from the crowd kagabi were "Yun na yon?" , "Ang bilis naman" , "Sana mag U-turn" , "Sa kabilang side nakatingin si Pope"
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: bumblebee on Jan 16, 2015 at 10:05 AM
The Pope looks really happy to be here. Maganda yung ngiti nya. Unlike Pope Benedict na nakaka-intimidate.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 16, 2015 at 06:24 PM
Yes the Papal visit is for the Believers including those poor and marginalized.
The unruly need not attend  ;)

This is to protect the Pope from the unruly poor people who are supposed to be the reason of his visit. hehehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jackryan on Jan 16, 2015 at 09:16 PM
IMHO, I wished P-Noy's speech was much better than what was actually delivered... they should fire that speech ghostwriter...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: syoti on Jan 16, 2015 at 09:26 PM
Actually hindi naman unruly yung mga audience last night...
All of them eagerly and patiently waited for the Pope...
Pero most of them were really disappointed dahil sobrang bilis talaga nung convoy.
Halos hindi mo na-feel yung Holy Presence nya.
Unlike yung kay Pope John Paul 2 dati, yung mga tao nag-iiyakan nung makita siya.
Kagabi yung mga tao makikita mong may kalungkutan sa mukha dahil yung iba likod na lang ang nakita kay Pope Francis.

Mga naririnig kong reactions from the crowd kagabi were "Yun na yon?" , "Ang bilis naman" , "Sana mag U-turn" , "Sa kabilang side nakatingin si Pope"

unruly wala nman sa crowd. but kulang pdn ng disiplina ang mga pinoy. ndi na talaga siguro matatanggal un sa pinoy. like may mga sumisingit sa harap mo khit 6 na oras ka na nkapila at sila kakarating lng.. and like ngdala ng food and water sa pagantay kay pope pero nung dumaan na at nagsialisan na lahat puro basura naiwan.. let's just see this sunday at the grandstand. 6million estimated to attend. 6million din ang basurang maiiwan. tayo lng ata ang bansang ganyan.. sad..
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 16, 2015 at 11:26 PM
FULL TEXT: PNoy’s message during general audience with Pope Francis
January 16, 2015 11:02am
Below is the full text of President Benigno Aquino III's message during the general audience with Pope Francis in Malacañang on Jan. 16, Friday.


Your Holiness:

Colonialism was brought to our shores, partly by the efforts of the conquistadores, and partly through the efforts of the Church. When the clergy in that period was asked how they justified the injustices committed during the colonization of the Philippines, they responded by saying: the Kingdom of God is not of this earth.
 
With Vatican II however, this changed: Instead of being a pillar of the establishment, the Church began to question the status quo. My understanding of the changes inspired by Vatican II, and of the influence of liberation theology, was the notion that temporal matters affect our spiritual well-being, and, consequently, cannot be ignored. Two passages from scripture come to mind.
 
The first comes from Matthew, Chapter 22, Verses 36-40, in which a Pharisee posed this question to Jesus Christ, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And He said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord Your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the great and foremost commandment. The second is like it, ‘you shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”
 
The clear link between the two greatest commandments, as Christ put it, is further emphasized in another passage. In Matthew Chapter 25 Verses 35-36, Christ said, “For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.’”
 
The Gospel challenges each member of the Church to go beyond almsgiving and mere charity, and to be concerned with injustice in temporal matters. We were further taught that if we do not intercede to make each person capable of exercising true freedom of choice, then we are not our brother’s keepers. One of the examples given to us involved a certain question. If it is a sin to steal, who is the greater sinner: the desperate man in an impossible situation forced to steal to feed his starving family, or the politician with an insatiable greed who, despite not having real material needs, stole from the public coffers?
 
When the Church engaged in temporal matters, it was truly working to bring the Kingdom of God apparent in this world. It was a living Church, a source of nurturing and support for the faithful, at a time when movies like “The Cardinal,” “The Shoes of the Fisherman,” and even “Jesus Christ Superstar” elicited deeper thoughts on how to further deepen the faith.
 
These teachings have been central to my family’s advocacy, which is understandable considering what we, along with millions of Filipinos, went through under the dictatorship. Then-President Marcos declared Martial Law in 1972, when I was 12-years-old, beginning an era in which the most fundamental rights of many Filipinos were flagrantly and routinely violated. It was in this environment that I came of age. In a sense, I had a front row seat to that tyranny and persecution. After all, the dictator wasted no time in having my father, one of his most influential and vocal opponents, imprisoned.
 
Martial Law deprived our family not only of a loving husband and father. Many of our friends avoided us. There were few who dared speak up. One of those was Fr. Toti Olaguer, SJ, who, right in the heart of the dictator’s most secure prison, had the courage to speak the truth about Mr. Marcos’ abuses, even as he was being videotaped. Many others in the Church, such as Jaime Cardinal Sin, Bishop Francisco Claver, and Bishop Antonio Fortich, just to name just a few, truly lived their faith and acted as followers of Christ in being their brothers’ keepers.
 
The courage and daring displayed by the clergy solidified my belief: Especially during the Martial Law years, the Church of the poor and oppressed shone vividly. The clergy was always at the forefront of those wanting to emulate Christ and carry the burdens for all of us. Indeed, they nourished the compassion, faith, and courage of the Filipino people. This allowed millions to come together as a single community of faith and make possible the miracle of the EDSA People Power Revolution.
 
Perhaps we had grown so accustomed to having this Church, always at the forefront of championing the rights of all, especially those of the marginalized, that we found it hard to understand its transformation. We were taught that the Catholic Church is the true church, and that there is constancy, for it upholds the truth at all times.
 
Hence, there was a true test of faith when many members of the Church, once advocates for the poor, the marginalized, and the helpless, suddenly became silent in the face of the previous administration’s abuses, which we are still trying to rectify to this very day. In these attempts at correcting the wrongs of the past, one would think that the Church would be our natural ally. In contrast to their previous silence, some members of the clergy now seem to think that the way to be true to the faith means finding something to criticize, even to the extent that one prelate admonished me to do something about my hair, as if it were a mortal sin. Is it any wonder then, that they see the glass not as half-full, or half-empty, but almost totally empty. Judgment is rendered without an appreciation of the facts.
 
I understand I am only human, and thus, I am imperfect. I ran for the Presidency despite my discomfort with the trappings of power, because if I passed up on this opportunity to effect real change, I would not have been able to live with myself, especially if the situation worsened. But in this effort, the participation of all is necessary. Everything I have said has not been to criticize, but to speak the truth, for the truth shall set us all free. If we are able to settle our differences, can we not benefit our people quicker?
 
This is why I was struck by what Your Holiness recently said to the Curia, when you warned them of the illnesses that not only Christians, but anyone in a position of power, is prone to, including that of thinking one’s self immortal or indispensable, and the danger of becoming sowers of discord through gossip and grumbling.
 
I appreciate and respect Your Holiness, for your role as a unifying and revitalizing voice, not just among Catholics, but also among all peoples of goodwill. Your statements bear witness to the compassion and understanding of Christ. Exhibiting the same humility, you eschew the trappings of your position, even to the necessary security preparations, which, I should admit, has been somewhat of a security nightmare for us. [Laughter] In all seriousness, who can deny that Your Holiness is truly living the life of one who is dedicated to advocating for the oppressed and marginalized?
 
I believe that you are a kindred spirit, one who sees things as they are, and is unafraid of asking, “Why not?” Some of your statements might have been shocking or offensive to some peers. But Your Holiness is meant to be the instrument through which the Kingdom of God is allowed to flourish. In your example, we see the wisdom of continuing to ask, “Why not?” We see joy, a sense of authentic service, and an insistence on a true community of the faithful. We thank the Lord for other kindred spirits like Luis Antonio Cardinal Tagle, Father Catalino Arevalo, and Sister Agnes Guillen, who have always been voices of reason, and who are spiritual people who will always be natural allies, along with so many others. We would like to think that even more will join us in the truth, in the fullness of time.
 
In the fight to transform society, one cannot help but be heartened by the fact that we are not alone. When we tread this path with people such as yourself, along with the millions you have inspired, we gain the courage to do what needs doing, the optimism to dream about what we can achieve in unity with one another, and the opportunity to turn that dream into a shared reality, with the grace of Almighty God. The Filipino people, in whose name I welcome you today, ask your blessing; may we find more mercy and compassion in our lives.
 
Thank you. Good day.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Hitman on Jan 16, 2015 at 11:42 PM
Pnoy is like a psycho ex-gf na bitter at hanggang ngayon dipa rin maka move on sa diktadurya at sa nakalipas na administrasyon. Ngayong presidente ka sana pinaimbestiga mo kung sinong pumatay sa tatay mo at ibalik ang lahat ng ninakaw sa halip na palagi ka nalang pasaring at wala ka ng pinipiling lugar! Leche!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 17, 2015 at 12:13 AM
I don't know how to react to what P-Not said. He had the balls to criticize the church in front of the leader but that was very uncalled for. Dumbest effin' move if you ask me because the way he said it it's no way different when he blames everyone for all the problems including GMA.

I just hope the politicians listen to the Pope, a bunch of Judases and hypocrites.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: raptor on Jan 17, 2015 at 12:14 AM
Pnoy is like a psycho ex-gf na bitter at hanggang ngayon dipa rin maka move on sa diktadurya at sa nakalipas na administrasyon. Ngayong presidente ka sana pinaimbestiga mo kung sinong pumatay sa tatay mo at ibalik ang lahat ng ninakaw sa halip na palagi ka nalang pasaring at wala ka ng pinipiling lugar! Leche!

he's retarded
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Post by: dpogs on Jan 17, 2015 at 01:56 AM
freedom of speech :):):)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: coastal on Jan 17, 2015 at 07:26 AM
Baka akala niya meron pa rin Inquisition. ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Hitman on Jan 17, 2015 at 09:29 AM
Ang ganda na ng mood ng sambayanan mula ng dumating si pope and then this speech of his...panira talaga!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM
any tip para sa mga gustong umatend sa ust at luneta bukas? i mean aside from going extra early, baka meron sa inyong may access sa "express lane". thanks
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: docelmo on Jan 17, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Pope's simple yet powerful message.......walk together as brothers and sisters with the Lord!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM
The rain and wind simply made the mass so perfect at Tacloban.  Nakakaiyak talaga.   Waterproof talaga ang pananampalataya ng Pinoy!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM
No human barricade...people are very orderly.  Galing!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: AshKetchum on Jan 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM
The rain and wind simply made the mass so perfect at Tacloban.  Nakakaiyak talaga.   Waterproof talaga ang pananampalataya ng Pinoy!

The fact that he was wearing the same raincoat as mostly everyone else and said Mass while Tacloban is currently under Typhoon signal #2 was truly moving...couldn't help become teary-eyed while watching it.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 11:34 AM
mukhang sponsor ng mcdo ang raincoats kasi pansin ko sila lang ang may banners sa streets including that "m" logo sa mic. according to jessica soho may nagsponsor daw ng coats. so nice naman na nabigyan ng sponsor ng pananggalang sa ulan ang ating mga kababayan.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 17, 2015 at 12:34 PM
for sure hindi politiko ang sponsor... walang mukhang nakaprint o name sa rain coat :)

shorten visit due to heavy rain and typhoon... notice ng pilot before 1PM nakaalis na sila...

kudos to the pilot...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 17, 2015 at 12:59 PM
poor pope francis, more than a miracle needed to stop corruption here tsktsktsk
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Moks007 on Jan 17, 2015 at 01:09 PM
Dapat kasi yan meron mass sa malacanang, house of representatives and senate, tapos message niya corruption. Then there will be time for confessions. I wanna see the line for this. Baka walang pila haha.

Pnoy is like a psycho ex-gf na bitter at hanggang ngayon dipa rin maka move on sa diktadurya at sa nakalipas na administrasyon. Ngayong presidente ka sana pinaimbestiga mo kung sinong pumatay sa tatay mo at ibalik ang lahat ng ninakaw sa halip na palagi ka nalang pasaring at wala ka ng pinipiling lugar! Leche!

I don't know how to react to what P-Not said. He had the balls to criticize the church in front of the leader but that was very uncalled for. Dumbest effin' move if you ask me because the way he said it it's no way different when he blames everyone for all the problems including GMA.

I just hope the politicians listen to the Pope, a bunch of Judases and hypocrites.

Ibang clase diba?

I just noticed the raincoats are yellow in color, ano sponsor ng lp party? Haha.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 01:16 PM
at least na experience ni Pope ang madalas maranasan ng mga pilipino - ang bagyo.
willing naman daw sana syang mag extend kaso malaking risk. bukas expect naman natin ang sungit ng panahon kaya baka may mag sponsor din ng raincoats. plano sana namin kahit sa kalsada lang mag abang.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 01:19 PM
Dapat kasi yan meron mass sa malacanang, house of representatives and senate, tapos message niya corruption. Then there will be time for confessions. I wanna see the line for this. Baka walang pila haha.
- if ever may pumila, dapat may nakaabang na bombero.

Ibang clase diba?

I just noticed the raincoats are yellow in color, ano sponsor ng lp party? Haha. - mukhang mcdo
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: nogo on Jan 17, 2015 at 01:31 PM
Papal mass in Tacloban.
Strong wind and rain.

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd381/nogo4427/20150117_104236.jpg) (http://s1217.photobucket.com/user/nogo4427/media/20150117_104236.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:02 PM
Pope went to Tacloban this early morning  so we took the youngest went to get a glimpse of the Pope  near villamor gate 5.  This after an info change that the convoy goes through Magallanes route at grade, but details change and it went via Skyway to villamor, via counterflow.

While waiting, I crossed on foot for a CR break sa Remington and i overhead a discussion on budget constraints from a team of policemen , so if you can share some of your snacks or meals. Dont get me wrong, they are in high spirits and are happy to do the job , whatever task for the papal visit.

If you will be in the mass tomorrow, most of those on duty are our uniformed brothers from outside MegaManila, likely tired and hungry as they have been busy. So If your budget permits, dala kayo  foods. Their sustenance for our spiritual sustenance isnt a bad trade, eh? :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Hitman on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:12 PM
Pope went to Tacloban this early morning  so we took the youngest went to get a glimpse of the Pope  near villamor gate 5.  This after an info change that the convoy goes through Magallanes route at grade, but details change and it went via Skyway to villamor, via counterflow.

While waiting, I crossed on foot for a CR break sa Remington and i overhead a discussion on budget constraints
from a team of policemen , so if you can share some of your snacks or meals. Dont get me wrong, they are in high spirits and are happy to do the job , whatever task for the papal visit.

If you will be in the mass tomorrow, most of those on duty are our uniformed brothers from outside MegaManila,
 likely tired and hungry as they have been busy. So If your budget permits, dala kayo  foods. Their sustenance for our spiritual sustenance isnt a bad trade, eh? :)
Like na like! Nice! I agree!

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:17 PM
sumadsad ung isang eroplona sa takcloban...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:34 PM
sumadsad ung isang eroplona sa takcloban...

Tatlo seguro yung nakita ko sa coverage, yung first plane took off where pope Francis on board.

Hope nobody was hurt.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: crazyhog on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:44 PM

Pope went to Tacloban this early morning  so we took the youngest went to get a glimpse of the Pope  near villamor gate 5.  This after an info change that the convoy goes through Magallanes route at grade, but details change and it went via Skyway to villamor, via counterflow.

While waiting, I crossed on foot for a CR break sa Remington and i overhead a discussion on budget constraints from a team of policemen , so if you can share some of your snacks or meals. Dont get me wrong, they are in high spirits and are happy to do the job , whatever task for the papal visit.

If you will be in the mass tomorrow, most of those on duty are our uniformed brothers from outside MegaManila, likely tired and hungry as they have been busy. So If your budget permits, dala kayo  foods. Their sustenance for our spiritual sustenance isnt a bad trade, eh? :)

+100
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jackryan on Jan 17, 2015 at 02:53 PM
Per news reports, the 3rd plane aborted take off but skidded off the runway... The Bombardier jet contained Malacanang officials...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 17, 2015 at 03:10 PM

Naiwan siya officials dun? Kung naiwan, eh nadinig ang panalangin ko. Jok
Per news reports, the 3rd plane aborted take off but skidded off the runway... The Bombardier jet contained Malacanang officials...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 17, 2015 at 03:29 PM
Plane owned by SMC.

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/10941137_10152742491410168_339164857664661019_n_zps8cbca656.jpg)

Secs. Coloma, Singson and Ochoa are on board. Masasamang damo talaga!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 17, 2015 at 03:46 PM
25 things the Pope said...


1. “I admire heroic strength, faith and resilience of Filipinos in the face of disasters.”

2. Filipino virtues are “rooted in hope and solidarity instilled by Christian faith.”

3. Modern society should be “respectful of authentic human values, protective of our God-given dignity and rights...’

4. Modern society should be “ready to confront new and complex political and ethical questions.”

5. “Political leaders must be outstanding for honesty, integrity and commitment to common good.

6. Essential to nation-building “is the moral imperative of ensuring social justice and respect for human dignity.”

7. The great biblical tradition enjoins on all peoples the duty to hear the voice of the poor.

8. “Like all God’s gifts, the family can be disfigured and destroyed.”

9. “It is difficult in democracies today to protect and defend human dignity, religious freedom and right to life of unborn and elderly.”

10. “Philippines plays important role in fostering understanding and cooperation in Asia

11. “Filipinos of the diaspora have made real contributions to life and welfare of societies where they live.”

12. “Filipinos have rich cultural and religious heritage … that could be used for integral human development.”

13. “Just solutions to Mindanao issue must be in accord with nation’s founding principles and respectful of inalienable rights.”

14. Mindanao solution should respect “inalienable rights … of indigenous peoples and religious minorities.”

15. Philippine Church must do examination of conscience and “embrace path of constant conversion
 
16. There’s “great danger” for Church of a “certain materialism which can creep into our lives and compromise the witness we offer.”

17. “Only by becoming poor ourselves, by stripping away our complacency, will we be able to identify ourselves with poor.”

18. Church must proclaim “radicalism of Gospel in a society grown comfortable with social exclusion, polarization & scandalous inequality.”

19. Pope to young priests, religious, seminarians: Proclaim joy of Gospel to “confused and despondent” young people.

20 Church must proclaim “beauty and truth of Christian message to society tempted by confusing representations of sexuality, marriage and family.”

21. “It is in the family that we first learn how to pray … to grow into men and women of faith.”

22. “Pressures on family life today many: economic situation, job migration, poverty... materialism and lifestyles destructive of family life and most basic demands of Christian morality.”

23. Family life is threatened by “growing efforts...to redefine institution of marriage, by relativism, by culture of the ephemeral, lack of openness to life.”

24. “Our world needs good and strong families to overcome threats to family life.”

25. “Protect your families … Be sanctuaries of respect for life.”

 
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 17, 2015 at 04:23 PM
Per news reports, the 3rd plane aborted take off but skidded off the runway... The Bombardier jet contained Malacanang officials...
malanang officials? Ayyy sayang......sayang yung eroplano kung nasira...:D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 17, 2015 at 04:24 PM
malanang officials? Ayyy sayang......sayang yung eroplano kung nasira...:D

Kawawa nga yun eroplano kasi nadamay.   ;D
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Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 05:28 PM
naisip ko palang may gumawa na at sa NYTimes pa!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1619577_10203698328167407_5674053106238941132_n.jpg?oh=850ef6223aa9b11fee436aa3f89f1d90&oe=5531D45A&__gda__=1432657763_0991d1f0109860eaaf56a210091b9255)

may kulang lang... dapat maitim.  O0
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: mattia on Jan 17, 2015 at 05:29 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10933788_10205853778008456_5678942150086365125_n.jpg?oh=d5ead2215bc34e97e23edbcddff2dde3&oe=55353AEF&__gda__=1429551802_5b18645675b047d3f260c298d8cd4759)

Just sharing an amazing shot by my daughter using my IPhone.  We were fortunate to get a clear view of the Pope!  This was taken at the corner of Roxas Blvd and Buendia during the Pope's motorcade back to the Papal Nuncio after his activity at MOA.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 17, 2015 at 06:28 PM
Form the news, there was an accident happened after Pope Francis left Tacloban. Sound system scaffolding fell down due to strong winds..
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 17, 2015 at 06:39 PM
Form the news, there was an accident happened after Pope Francis left Tacloban. Sound system scaffolding fell down down due to strong winds..

And it killed in a 21 yr old lady volunteer...just read it in Yahoo news.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 06:58 PM
ano kaya ang mensahe sa pagkamatay? bata pa at maganda naman ang naging hangarin...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 17, 2015 at 06:58 PM

It's sad that in the middle of papal visit's celebration we have this incident. The committee in-charge of the activities should have taken precautionary measures for safety of the people working in the area.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 08:06 PM
It's sad that in the middle of papal visit's celebration we have this incident. The committee in-charge of the activities should have taken precautionary measures for safety of the people working in the area.

malakas lang siguro talaga ang hangin kasi para bang pinatapos lang ang seremonya at saka lumakas ng hangin kaya kita sa tv na natuklap ang mga tarps at nabuwag ang bahagi ng bleacher. sa dami ng tao hindi na naagapan. baka na trap sya at di na nakailag. kawawa naman.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: seahaven on Jan 17, 2015 at 10:16 PM
Hey guys we are attending the 3pm mass at Quirino Grandstand tomorrow, what time do you  think should we be there to get a good position?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zram18 on Jan 17, 2015 at 10:22 PM
even if you come early, nakareserve na po ung mga quadrants...may reservation ka ba? kung wala, dun ka na lang sa pinakalikod. anyway, iikot naman sa mga tao yung pope mobile.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 17, 2015 at 11:57 PM
6am pa magpapapasok pero balita ko ngayon palang ang dami ng tao sa labas. by 3am tyak mas marami na. magdala ng pananggalang sa ulan at lamig.

http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/80562-pope-francis-luneta-entrance-crowd
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 18, 2015 at 08:46 AM
If you will be in the mass tomorrow, most of those on duty are our uniformed brothers from outside MegaManila, likely tired and hungry as they have been busy. So If your budget permits, dala kayo  foods. Their sustenance for our spiritual sustenance isnt a bad trade, eh? :)


Mga reinforcements from Bulacan pala yung group of police. they are given 1000 pesos for ten (10) days duty for a full day allowance, that's 100 a day isnt much being in MM.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dodie on Jan 18, 2015 at 08:54 AM
malapit pa nga sir yang bulacan, meron nga taga mindoro na nanjan. usually, yung mga nasa mobile group ng pnp ang nadala jan. ang concern nila yung tulugan sa rizal memorial at yung cr/bathroom kse madami sila naka house dun.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 18, 2015 at 09:05 AM
malapit pa nga sir yang bulacan, meron nga taga mindoro na nanjan. usually, yung mga nasa mobile group ng pnp ang nadala jan. ang concern nila yung tulugan sa rizal memorial at yung cr/bathroom kse madami sila naka house dun.
Mano bang bigyan ng convenience yan sa basic. Hays. Kaya pala mukang pagod eh walang matulugan na matino.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:36 AM
Kabubukas ko lang ng Tv, at nagkaroon daw ng tulakan sa bandang Luneta at meron mga nasakatan at nasira yung mga metal detectors gate. Talagang itong mga kababayan natin, umiral pa rin ang pagiging kanya kanya... masunod lang gusto nila... Sana mamaya maging maayos ang lahat...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:41 AM
Mga reinforcements from Bulacan pala yung group of police. they are given 1000 pesos for ten (10) days duty for a full day allowance, that's 100 a day isnt much being in MM.
100 per day? Buhay pa kaya sila? 800 pesos per day ang per diem ng gov't employee while on official travel outside 50km (yata)radius from official station....di kaya sila entitled nyan?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:53 AM
100 per day? Buhay pa kaya sila? 800 pesos per day ang per diem ng gov't employee while on official travel outside 50km (yata)radius from official station....di kaya sila entitled nyan?

Dapat hiwalay yung free meals nila at per diem. At least 500 pesos per day man lang.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zonks on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:59 AM
100 per day? Buhay pa kaya sila? 800 pesos per day ang per diem ng gov't employee while on official travel outside 50km (yata)radius from official station....di kaya sila entitled nyan?
hindi naman sinunsunod sa afp at pnp. sasabihin lang ng mga nasa taas may SA(subsistence allowance) naman sila which is included na sa payslip nila
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dodie on Jan 18, 2015 at 11:05 AM
100 per day? Buhay pa kaya sila? 800 pesos per day ang per diem ng gov't employee while on official travel outside 50km (yata)radius from official station....di kaya sila entitled nyan?

iba yata ang sa police force boss, since may base pay sila and half month duty lang yata ang mga yan.  anytime you can be asked to transfer o kya ma augment yung mother unit kung saan sya needed most. usally yung nasa precint level hindi mo mahahatak bigla bigla, but pag nasa regional mobile group, yun ang mga tinatawag saka yan talaga yung trabaho nila. ang karamihan sa kanila sa mga base camp naka in house hindi sila downloaded sa mga MPS.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 18, 2015 at 11:08 AM
Dapat hiwalay yung free meals nila at per diem. At least 500 pesos per day man lang.
eto yata breakdown ng per diem...80 per meal x 3 = 240, 400 for accomodation, 160 for incidental. So kung free meal, meron pa silang 560. Palagay may makikinabang jan  >:D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 18, 2015 at 11:22 AM
iba yata ang sa police force boss, since may base pay sila and half month duty lang yata ang mga yan.  anytime you can be asked to transfer o kya ma augment yung mother unit kung saan sya needed most. usally yung nasa precint level hindi mo mahahatak bigla bigla, but pag nasa regional mobile group, yun ang mga tinatawag saka yan talaga yung trabaho nila. ang karamihan sa kanila sa mga base camp naka in house hindi sila downloaded sa mga MPS.
sana nga boss, ganyan nga, kung hindi, nakow..... >:D kawawa mga taga mindoro... Mabuti taga bulacan, malapit lang sila
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: mattia on Jan 18, 2015 at 12:32 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/103198/mel-sta--maria--the-popes-heart-and-pnoys-mind-one-is-with-us-the-other-is-out-of-touch

I did not catch the entire speech but if he indeed said what the article is saying, then shame on Pnoy.  Once divisive, always divisive.  Why >:( >:(
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: halvert on Jan 18, 2015 at 04:27 PM
Bad trip naman yung bagyong "Amang"! Ang iksi tuloy ng stay ni Pope sa Tacloban at Palo... na main reason kung bakit pumunta dito si Pope...buti pa mga tayong taga-Maynila, ilang beses nakita si Pope  :(
E dahil sa bagyo, brownout pa yata sa ilang parts ng Leyte nung nagmisa siya.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 18, 2015 at 04:36 PM
Bad trip naman yung bagyong "Amang"! Ang iksi tuloy ng stay ni Pope sa Tacloban at Palo... na main reason kung bakit pumunta dito si Pope...buti pa mga tayong taga-Maynila, ilang beses nakita si Pope  :(
E dahil sa bagyo, brownout pa yata sa ilang parts ng Leyte nung nagmisa siya.


If its any consolation, di ka na mahihiyang umiyak sa ulan. ;)

Seriously, nakakatuwa that even with the weather the turnout was fantastic.
Buzz kill lang talaga tong si P-Noy nakakahiya talaga,  but that's where we all distance away from him.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sdsmds on Jan 18, 2015 at 04:48 PM
Bad trip naman yung bagyong "Amang"! Ang iksi tuloy ng stay ni Pope sa Tacloban at Palo... na main reason kung bakit pumunta dito si Pope...buti pa mga tayong taga-Maynila, ilang beses nakita si Pope  :(
E dahil sa bagyo, brownout pa yata sa ilang parts ng Leyte nung nagmisa siya.

nagbrown out dito sa QC pero swerte na nagbalik ang power by the time mag start ang mass ni Pope Francis sa Luneta...thanks
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: kranoz on Jan 18, 2015 at 05:37 PM
Thanks to abs cbn digibox. Napanuod ko yung mass ng malinaw kahit umuulan at mahangin.  :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 18, 2015 at 05:38 PM
Glued to the TV since day 1 - Thursday. Feeling ko Holy week at nasa RETREAT ako  ^-^
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Post by: edwn1220 on Jan 18, 2015 at 05:59 PM
^ The Pope's homily was very moving, especially the one in Tacloban.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 18, 2015 at 06:10 PM

Listened to the mass in my work (overseas) through internet radio live broadcast. Thanks for the technology. Abangan ko na lang sa news for video.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 18, 2015 at 07:05 PM
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/103198/mel-sta--maria--the-popes-heart-and-pnoys-mind-one-is-with-us-the-other-is-out-of-touch

I did not catch the entire speech but if he indeed said what the article is saying, then shame on Pnoy.  Once divisive, always divisive.  Why >:( >:(

kanina sanggang dikit sila ni Binay sa mass....nakakahiya talaga, pero iba naman talaga ang may pinagsamahan...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 18, 2015 at 07:11 PM
kanina sanggang dikit sila ni Binay sa mass....nakakahiya talaga, pero iba naman talaga ang may pinagsamahan...

e kung sa marcoses nga...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: halvert on Jan 18, 2015 at 07:20 PM
sana lang hindi magkasakit si Pope sa pagbabad sa ulan. 78 years old na siya! At maraming na-i-inspire sa kanya!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 18, 2015 at 07:27 PM
ilang linggo, buwan o taon natin maalala itong gumuhit sa kasaysayan natin? sana naman ay hindi pang social media lamang. sana maisabuhay.

malalaman natin sa 2016 election kung ang pahalik halik na kakandidato ay nakinig sa mensahe ng Papa. ora mismo o bukas mismo kung talagang SinZero sya, ipamahagi nya sa mga mahihirap ang para sa mga mahihirap. kaya ba nyang maging isang Matthew pati na rin ang ibang mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sdsmds on Jan 18, 2015 at 07:59 PM
sayang channel 5 si bo sanchez pa naman guest, i dont know why they put tulfo there as host covering the papal visit/mass.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: techdude on Jan 18, 2015 at 08:19 PM
I particularly liked Cardinal Tagle's remarks (lifted from the Bible) that Jesus is praying for Peter (and Pope Francis as Successor to Peter).  It's something that I think the Pope will appreciate and remember for sometime...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 18, 2015 at 08:27 PM
Sa panonood ko ng tv coverage ng Pope, parang ramdam ko ang saya, tuwa o emosyon ng mga ordinaryong tao na nakakayakap kay Papa Francis, pero kung politiko ang nakikita kong nakakayakap, parang wala lang....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jackryan on Jan 18, 2015 at 09:44 PM
I wonder if this is truly posted by Marlene Aguilar... or, is this another hacked account?

http://www.pep.ph/news/47577/marlene-aguilar-attacks-pope-francis-in-facebook-posts-netizens-react
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 18, 2015 at 09:46 PM
ok bonvoyage na k kiko bukas. Ika apat? Na bisita ng pope.
May nagbago ba matapos nung unang 3 bisita?
Alam na yan, pinoy pa!
Bau
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:11 PM

Sana naukit sa puso ng mga namumuno ang mga binitawang paalala ng mahal na santo Papa na ang pagbabago ng kalagayan ng mamamayan ay dapat mag-ugat sa kanila.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:18 PM
I was there earlier, sobrang pagod. Imagine standing for more than 6 hours depending what time you arrived, walked, trekked, lined up and endured a lot of pushing/shoving. Plus drenched in rain, some even braved the rain without any rain gear. We're exhausted after the 2 hour mass then we have to walk back to Vito Cruz again, imagine that. On a consolation, we were able to glipse the Pope again when he got back to Nunciature in Quirino.

Pinoys will never do away with pushing just to get them in front or have the best seat/view. Yung aleng matatanda pa ang nangunguna. Ok lang sana kung nakatayo ng matagal pero pag may tumutulak pa mas lalong nakakapagod. And daming nangailangan ng medical care dahil sa pagkahilo o nahimatay.

Mas kawawa yung police trainees, wala pa daw kain yung mga yun tapos naka t-shirt lang ng puti na pinapaulanan. Some had to give their food and leftover bread so we gave ours too.

But as usual, Pinoys balik sa dating ugali. Tsk tsk
Title: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 19, 2015 at 12:30 AM
I was in Luneta kanina and very fortunate to see Pope Francis super up-close :)
Non stop ang ulan pero sobrang dami pa din ng tao!!! :)
Kahit mabasa ang cellphone ok lang basta mapicturan si Pope ^-^

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7487/15689700653_bcdd0f4239_z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 19, 2015 at 07:34 AM
If only people who have lined through the streets of Metro Manila, attended the various activities and saw the Pope and have been inspired changed for the better at least 50% of their nasty and evil ways, I believe this visit of the Pope will not be in vain. Filipinos has now the opportunity and reason to change i wish this will happen. If nothing happens the whole thing would again be a complete lie.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: nogo on Jan 19, 2015 at 08:06 AM
Mga reinforcements from Bulacan pala yung group of police. they are given 1000 pesos for ten (10) days duty for a full day allowance, that's 100 a day isnt much being in MM.
My cousin from CARAGA region as security detail in Tacloban was given 125 per day. He had to rent P400 per night (pension house) for his accommodation.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:44 AM
Congrats to all Catholics and Filipinos for a show of discipline during the POpe's visit.

Sana lang magpatuloy kahit nakaalis na ulit siya
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 19, 2015 at 10:57 AM
Filipinos are known for "kuyog". Sana hindi yun ang dahilan ng pagdagsa ng tao. Hindi lang dahil curious at may ipost at ikwento na naroon at nakita nila. Natutuwa ako sa suportang ipinakita ng marami. Saludo ako sa mga nagtyaga, nagtiis, nagpuyat at nagpakapagod para lang makita at makinig sa mensahe ng Papa.

Sana lang ang enthusiasm na ipinakita ay hindi sumama sa paglipad ng Santo Papa.

Sana lang ay magkaroon na nga ng equality.

Sana lang yung mga humalik sa kamay o singsing ng Santo Papa ay sinsero at maisabuhay ang mga sinabi ng Santo Papa.

Ang tanong: kaya bang ipamahagi o ibalik ng mga pulitiko sa mga tao ang kanilang kinurakot?

Meron bang pulitiko ang maglakas ng loob para bigyang saysay ang pagpunta ng Santo Papa?

Napansin nyo ba kung sino yung pulitikong huling humalik sa singsing ng Santo Papa? Sana suot-suot pa nya ngayon.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jan 19, 2015 at 11:02 AM
I am reminded of a prayer that says "Let me be the change I want to see, let the change begin with me".
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 19, 2015 at 11:46 AM

Ang tanong: kaya bang ipamahagi o ibalik ng mga pulitiko sa mga tao ang kanilang kinurakot?

ang tanong din: may politiko bang umamin na na sya'y nangurakot? :D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 19, 2015 at 12:14 PM
Filipinos are known for "kuyog". Sana hindi yun ang dahilan ng pagdagsa ng tao. Hindi lang dahil curious at may ipost at ikwento na naroon at nakita nila. Natutuwa ako sa suportang ipinakita ng marami. Saludo ako sa mga nagtyaga, nagtiis, nagpuyat at nagpakapagod para lang makita at makinig sa mensahe ng Papa.

Unfortunately boss praktikal, the moment Pope Francis passed by our places from the motorcade already started leaving. Some bringing their Sto. Ninos to get blessed. They didn't hear the high mass. Sorry to say but most of them just took pictures as proof they were there. I think some are the Nazarene crowd in Quiapo because I could hear them using words/phrases in translacion.

If only people who have lined through the streets of Metro Manila, attended the various activities and saw the Pope and have been inspired changed for the better at least 50% of their nasty and evil ways, I believe this visit of the Pope will not be in vain. Filipinos has now the opportunity and reason to change i wish this will happen. If nothing happens the whole thing would again be a complete lie.

Couldn't agree more, boss jerix. But some of them will get back to their old ways. When I go to church on Sundays I can't help wonder how the people you greet kiss of peace would be the ones who wouldn't give in from the parking lot causing traffic.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 12:50 PM
Unfortunately boss praktikal, the moment Pope Francis passed by our places from the motorcade already started leaving. Some bringing their Sto. Ninos to get blessed. They didn't hear the high mass. Sorry to say but most of them just took pictures as proof they were there. I think some are the Nazarene crowd in Quiapo because I could hear them using words/phrases in translacion.

Couldn't agree more, boss jerix. But some of them will get back to their old ways. When I go to church on Sundays I can't help wonder how the people you greet kiss of peace would be the ones who wouldn't give in from the parking lot causing traffic.


nakakapag-isip din talaga...

sana nga yun g tunay na mensahe ang naiuuwi ng mga sumasaksi sa mga ganitong pagkakataon at hindi souvenir pictures na "i was there"

sa Feast of Nazarene, I am sure sandamukal na drivers (tricycle, jeepney, taxi) ang sumasaksi at sumasama dyan pero meron kayang nabago ang buhay in terms of naging masunurin sa batas trapiko dahil kay Hesus?

sa pag-alis ni POpe Francis sana nga di kasamang umalis ang disiplinang ipinakita ng mga Filipino... o baka naman sa pag-uwi mismo ng mga dumayo sa Maynila upang sumaksi sa pagdating at pag-alis ng papa, ay meron ng maging sanhi ng aksidente dahil sa panglalamang na makauna sa daloy ng trapiko?

sana nga magdulot ng pagbabago. Hindi ako Katoliko pero umaasa ako na may maging pagbabago sa mga Filipino, hindi lamang pagbabago ng FB Cover Photo na may litrato ni Pope Francis.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 19, 2015 at 12:54 PM
o eto! http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/666467/papal-visit-brings-hope-to-filipinos-binay
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Waxx on Jan 19, 2015 at 01:00 PM
i doubt na magbabago ang pinoy pag alis ni pope.

e yung mga nag attend mismo, tingnan mo nalang iniwan na basura.. e andyan palang si pope di na nagtapon mabuti ng basura e.

asa pa tayo?

di kayang ituro ang malasakit, disiplina, at etc sa crash course na 5 araw.  generations ang kelangan dyan...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 01:08 PM
i doubt na magbabago ang pinoy pag alis ni pope.

e yung mga nag attend mismo, tingnan mo nalang iniwan na basura.. e andyan palang si pope di na nagtapon mabuti ng basura e.

asa pa tayo?

di kayang ituro ang malasakit, disiplina, at etc sa crash course na 5 araw.  generations ang kelangan dyan...

Kumusta kaya ang mga simbahan in say one month after ng pagbisita ng Pope. mas madami na kaya ang magsimba?

Mas madaming Katoliko na kaya ang mag-aruga ng mga ulila at tumulong sa mga bahay ampunan?

sana magkaroon ng pag-aaral
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 19, 2015 at 01:09 PM
as i posted earlier,,,3 papal visits na mula noon k marcos, asa pa...dream on
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 19, 2015 at 01:19 PM
hayy... sad

aabangan ko talaga sa linggo kung mas dadami ang sisimba. makikita din natin sa mga pulitiko kung may pagbabago. hindi na ang kulay, ugali na lang ok na ako.

meron nga daw nadukutan ng cp moment after dumaan ang Papa sa roxas. tsk tsk...

wala daw crime pero palagay ko meron din, nakatutok lang ang media sa visit.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 01:36 PM
hayy... sad

aabangan ko talaga sa linggo kung mas dadami ang sisimba. makikita din natin sa mga pulitiko kung may pagbabago. hindi na ang kulay, ugali na lang ok na ako.

meron nga daw nadukutan ng cp moment after dumaan ang Papa sa roxas. tsk tsk...

wala daw crime pero palagay ko meron din, nakatutok lang ang media sa visit.

may naibalit sa dzbb, during the arrival ng pope, kaso below 17 yung mandurukot (manlalaslas) kaya makakalaya din yun.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 19, 2015 at 02:11 PM
The DREAM and the act for a change for the better should come from all us irrespective of religion. I am not a Catholic but I have to acknowledge that I myself was touched and inspired by his spirituality and the sincerity of his intentions.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 02:18 PM
The DREAM and the act for a change for the better should come from all us irrespective of religion. I am not a Catholic but I have to acknowledge that I myself was touched and inspired by his spirituality and the sincerity of his intentions.

same here. Hanga ako kasi mukhang maka-masa talaga ang Pope na ito. very simple.  ganito siguro si pope John Paul 1st kung di pinatay.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 19, 2015 at 02:59 PM
same here. Hanga ako kasi mukhang maka-masa talaga ang Pope na ito. very simple.  ganito siguro si pope John Paul 1st kung di pinatay.

Kaya hiling nya na ipag pray baka kutob o alam nya the 'enemy' is from within
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Cruzader on Jan 19, 2015 at 03:47 PM
ang raming basurang iniwan sa Luneta. Pinoy nga naman... kahit Santo Papa na ang kaharap, la paring disiplina.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 03:53 PM
ang raming basurang iniwan sa Luneta. Pinoy nga naman... kahit Santo Papa na ang kaharap, la paring disiplina.

ganun ba? akala ko pa naman naipakita natin ang disiplina sa pagdating ng Papa.

wala din pala
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zonks on Jan 19, 2015 at 03:59 PM
yup nasa news sa radio kanina dami nga daw iniwan na basura
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 19, 2015 at 04:03 PM
nagsearch ako, meron nga:

http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/81331-pope-francis-mass-luneta-garbage

Green POpe pa naman tawag kay pope Francis.

Mukhang bigo nga sa iba ang pagbisita nya.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: syoti on Jan 19, 2015 at 04:12 PM
unruly wala nman sa crowd. but kulang pdn ng disiplina ang mga pinoy. ndi na talaga siguro matatanggal un sa pinoy. like may mga sumisingit sa harap mo khit 6 na oras ka na nkapila at sila kakarating lng.. and like ngdala ng food and water sa pagantay kay pope pero nung dumaan na at nagsialisan na lahat puro basura naiwan.. let's just see this sunday at the grandstand. 6million estimated to attend. 6million din ang basurang maiiwan. tayo lng ata ang bansang ganyan.. sad..

i knew it..
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 19, 2015 at 05:24 PM
 
Hindi talaga maiiwasan ang konting ganon, sa sobrang dami ng tao.  6 million ba naman.
 
World record na yata sa attendance in a Catholic mass.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 19, 2015 at 05:26 PM
ok na lang yang mga literal na basura, ang importante hindi mabasura ang mga pangaral ng Santo Papa. hindi lang naman sa pilipinas ang ganyan. kaya na rin naman ng mmda and the people in-charge yan. so kumbaga, bonus na lang kung minimal garbage.

speaking of basura, isang paraan para mabawasan yan ay bilhin ng gobyerno ang kada basurang maipon. per kilo. sa hirap ng buhay, tyak hindi na mahihirapan ang mmda. yan lang ang tanging paraan, ang may perang kapalit. kung ang mga naka suv nga na nasusundan ko sa slex nagtatapon ng basura sa bintana, ang mahirap pa?

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 19, 2015 at 06:03 PM
Jesus was the message....not padre Jorge, he was merely an instrument used by the Father.....

it is bad news that sells paper....journalists' criticisms are what make them famous....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Cruzader on Jan 19, 2015 at 06:36 PM
ok na lang yang mga literal na basura, ang importante hindi mabasura ang mga pangaral ng Santo Papa. hindi lang naman sa pilipinas ang ganyan. kaya na rin naman ng mmda and the people in-charge yan. so kumbaga, bonus na lang kung minimal garbage.

are you even listening to yourself? puro excuses lang pinagsasabi mo. and the Pope literally SAID in UST that we should take care of the environment tapos sasabihin mo hindi "binasura" pangangaral ni Pope. hirap sa mga katulad mo puro excuses lang if its a means of convenience, pero lulusot sa kabilang tenga if it means making a small sacrifice.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 19, 2015 at 06:49 PM
^ easy ka lang po sir. kung makapagsalita ka wagas. hinay hinay lang kagaya ng pagbabago hinay hinay lang din. hindi madali ang magbago. masakit kang magsalita. gusto mo radical change? then start by being nice to others. easy lang. mahirap madaliin.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 19, 2015 at 07:09 PM
^ easy ka lang po sir. kung makapagsalita ka wagas. hinay hinay lang kagaya ng pagbabago hinay hinay lang din. hindi madali ang magbago. masakit kang magsalita. gusto mo radical change? then start by being nice to others. easy lang. mahirap madaliin.

I agree...we cannot expect an immediate 180 deg change. Kahit nga si Pope, ang hiningi nya muna is we need to know how to "weep". Bakit "weep" lang?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Cruzader on Jan 19, 2015 at 07:20 PM
^ easy ka lang po sir. kung makapagsalita ka wagas. hinay hinay lang kagaya ng pagbabago hinay hinay lang din. hindi madali ang magbago. masakit kang magsalita. gusto mo radical change? then start by being nice to others. easy lang. mahirap madaliin.

I was being nice. fact is, I didn't insult you, I just said the truth. Even if you reread in again word for word, I
never said any insult. It's not my problem if you think Im being an ahole just coz your fragile ego was fazed by the truth. if you want change then maybe start by stopping to be so onion-skinned.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 19, 2015 at 07:36 PM
Thread ng Papal visit, topic is effect ng pagdating sa Pope, and here you are.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zram18 on Jan 19, 2015 at 08:07 PM
please be calm, relax lang at wag mainit mga ulo. kaaalis lang ni pope francis and yet, andami agad sinapian ng mga demonyo...hehe.

please wag kau mag away dito. learn to love and respect each other...peace to all.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 19, 2015 at 08:35 PM
Hunga, basura lang yan, palagay ko, di talaga maiiwasan yan. Sa dami ng tao, siksikan, kung nakapwesto ka na ng maganda, at maghahanap pa ng basurahan, tiyak, mawawalan ka ng pwesto.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ricky on Jan 19, 2015 at 08:57 PM
^kayang iwasan mag tapon ng basura, at alam natin lahat kung paano. Hindi pwedeng magdahilan na basira lang yan. Maliit na bagay lang nga yan hindi pa magawa.

Parang isang chewing gum , isang filter ng sigarilyo, isang balat ng candy, isang ticket ng bus , isang palastic bottle LANG pero pag pinagsama sama madami na din yan.

Pero di ba pwede naman iwasan basta may disiplina. Ibulsa muna or magdala ng plastic.

Sabagay sa sinehan lang makikita mo gaano kababoy mga tao, pinag kainan hindi pa mabitbit palabas para itapon, ang dahilan may janitor naman para mag linis. Sana lang maging maayos lahat, maliit na bagay lalaki din pag hinayaan,makakasanayan.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 19, 2015 at 09:58 PM
Kaya naman talaga pag may disiplina. Kaya din iwasan ang pork para hindi high blood.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: raptor on Jan 19, 2015 at 11:22 PM
i don't think maiiwasan yung mga basura dahil sa dami ng tao at tagal nila doon sa place, and it's close to impossible for the government or volunteers to even setup the facility for 6-7M people on a gathering to facilitate garbage disposal, hence it is really essential that a clean-up team will be there after the event ... i personally think that this event demonstrated the discipline of the Filipino people, imagine 6-7M magnitude without untoward incident of someone getting seriously injured - sa China this new year, ilang libo lang ang dami ng namatay sa stampede
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:02 AM
^Salamat bro raptor sa positive outlook mo towards this Papal visit. Parang ang dami kasing negative ang tingin sa mga nangyari. Ang nakikita yung hindi maganda at hindi tignan ang brighter side of things. And tama ka bro, may mga naka-standby na clean up team right after the mass... Again, thank you :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 20, 2015 at 03:03 AM
^ hunga naman, maliban sa tagal ng oras na pag-antay sa lugar at di naman reserved yung pwesto, kahit sino magiisip kun aalis pa sa lugar nya, maliban lang seguro sa tawag ng pangangailangan. Dagdag pa natin ang sama ng panahon. Seguro in the future isama na sa guidelines ang kanya kanyang linis sa pwesto at least kun meron man maiwan kunti lang. Isa pa iwan ang usapin na ito mga namamahala ng aktibidad kun ano ang remedyo nila.

Gaya ng sinabi ni bro Rapto at bro Louie, na sana nga maging epekto nito sa atin lalo na sa mga namumuno sa mamamayan.



Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 20, 2015 at 03:29 AM
meron bang nakakaklat na mga trashcan/bin na puwedng tapunan ng basura... sa quadrant wala akong makitang basurahan :(...

regarding doon sa mga traffic enforcer na nag diaper... parang puwede na rin... kasi iyong family ko pumunta doon mga naka adult diaper :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 20, 2015 at 04:06 AM

Seguro intended na wag maglagay ng trash cans para di makasagabal sa mga tao at baka yun pa ang ma- focus sa camera ng Vatican.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ricky on Jan 20, 2015 at 07:28 AM
Hindi pwede maglagay ng basurahan. Isang sako para sa basura tatapunan ng isang drum na basura. Kung baga papaapawin lang ng mga tao masabing nag tapon lang ng basura.

Ganoon naman yata talaga, yung pangit ang nakikita, hindi dahil sa negative ang mga tao kung hindi para maimpprove na din at maiwasan maulit.

Tama naman si raptor 6-7m na tao kahit itapon nila sa tamang lugar ang basura nila malamang gabundok talaga kalalabasan. Mas pangit tignan kumpara sa scattered all around?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 20, 2015 at 08:05 AM
Kasama sa security measures ang trash can, kung maglalagay man dapat transparent at kita yung loob dahil pwedeng maglagay ng bomb sa loob nyan.  Pansinin nyo may mga establishments or malls na halos walang trash can sa loob. 

Naalala nyo yung recent World Cup? Isang bansa lang naman ang naglinis ng pwesto nila right after the game...Japan. 
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: ricky on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:07 PM
^alam kasi ng japan may pera sa basura. Tignan mo
Mga basura nila binibili natin hehehe
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:28 PM
^alam kasi ng japan may pera sa basura. Tignan mo
Mga basura nila binibili natin hehehe

:D totoo yan, tignan natin yung mga basura ng japan na mga audio gears....surplus na mga sasakyan...etc...

but look on the bright side...
pinakita sa tv yung mga mangangalakal na nag-ipon ng mga plastic bottles at cups..
kumita sila ng malaki....
hindi pinakita sa tv, peros suspetsa ko, merong mga nakaipon ng "pagpag"
mga pagkaing iniwan sa lugar at sininop ng mga mga mahirap para me makain sila...

madali para sa mga nakatira sa condo's at magarang mga bahay....
yung mga nagmamaneho ng sarileng mga kotse, yung mga nakakaangat sa buhay
na manghusga......pero sorry, hindi po nagpunta si padre Jorge ng dahil sa inyo...
maraming pulitkong umepal, mga eletistang umepal sa MOA arena...
pero hindi para sa kanila ang pagpunta ng santo Papa, kung hindi sila
matututo sa mga maralitang nakatira sa mga gilid-gilid, sa bangketa at sa ilalim ng tulay....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 20, 2015 at 12:38 PM
ano nga mensahe ng pope sa misa niya sa UST?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:10 PM
http://www.tnkfoundation.org/category/news/

doon ako naantig sa napakaikli pero napakalalim ng pinaghugutan na mensahe o katanungan ng dose anyos na batang si Glyzelle. Kahit 500 lang magdodonate ako. sana kayo rin at sana mas malaki pa. they accept in kind din. please click above link.

sabi nga ng Santo Papa: "think well, feel well and do well".

ang nakasanayan naman natin, "sa isip, sa salita at sa gawa".

kaya naboryo utak ni bruce sa "bruce almighty". kada isa may kahilingang pabor sa sarili.

ano man siguro ang lahi, ang importante yung concern. concern hindi lang para sa sarili kundi sa kapwa. imo, kung may pagmamahal ka sa kapwa mo tangay na lahat. dahil kung mahal mo ang iyong kapwa ay ayaw mo syang masaktan, ayaw mo syang malagay sa kapahamakan kaya iingatan mo ang kalikasan, hindi ka magtatapon ng basura, at iba pa kasi aware ka sa negatibong epekto na sa huli makakaapekto sa iyong kapwa.

lagi lagi kong dasal ang PHL (Philippines?) Peace, Harmony & Love sa pamilya ko, sa bansa at sangkatauhan. sana magkaroon tayo nyan. mahirap pero utay utay... hindi masamang umasa.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:11 PM
ano nga mensahe ng pope sa misa niya sa UST?
http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/81203-full-text-pope-francis-message-youth-ust
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: frootloops on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:14 PM
Anyone getting the commemorative coins?

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/IMG_4856_zpsd16fdf0f.jpg)

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/IMG_4855_zps1e51061a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:18 PM
ano nga mensahe ng pope sa misa niya sa UST?

liberation theology based on the gospel of Christ....
learn from the poor.....weep for the poor...
After all Jesus was a true revolutionary,
but his power did not come out of the barrel of a gun...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:44 PM
Isa lang naman sagot sa mga itinapong basura eh, yung dala mo papunta dalhin mo rin pabalik. Wag mong ikalat kung saan saan o kung may trash can don mo itapon.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Waxx on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:46 PM
Isa lang naman sagot sa mga itinapong basura eh, yung dala mo papunta dalhin mo rin pabalik. Wag mong ikalat kung saan saan o kung may trash can don mo itapon.

i agree, bat di nalang uwiin ang basura, sa bahay itapon.. bat kelangan dun pa?

di ko nilalahat.. sure ako may gumawa nun.. and sa mga gumawa nun, hanga ako!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 20, 2015 at 01:58 PM
Dala namin yung balat ng pinagkainang nilagang saging. Mas madali pa nga kung plastic kasi pwedeng tupiin kung wala nang laman. Tamad lang talaga at walang pakialam ang mga taong ganyan.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 20, 2015 at 02:26 PM
Jesus was the message....not padre Jorge, he was merely an instrument used by the Father.....

it is bad news that sells paper....journalists' criticisms are what make them famous....

Like
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 20, 2015 at 03:15 PM
Jon Stewart pokes fun at MMDA's adult diapers for police officers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtPdt8HY2ug)

Very funny, as usual.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 20, 2015 at 03:26 PM
my family wears adult diapers nang pumunta sila doon and malaking pakinabang lalo na ang puwesto nila walang malapit na cr at mahirap umalis sa puwesto (lalo nakapag nasa quadrant ka) kung alam mong wala nang alisan sa puwesto...

at first tinawanan ko ang pakulo ng mmda na pasuutin ng diapers ang mga mmda traffic enforcer since there are other means para sa kapakanan ng mga traffic enforcers... pero hindi natin puwedeng pagtawanan ang mga traffic enforcer na willing magsacrifice at magsuot ng diaper para sa katiwasayan at para na rin sa kaligtasan ng lahat...


(di ko na tinanong ano nangyari sa diaper na suot nang umuwi sila sa bahay... to think na umulan pa maghapon noon... :):):)) nakita ko na lang sa labas ng bahay namin may malaking garbage bag... ang laman puro adult diaper na ang bibigat :):):)...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 20, 2015 at 04:15 PM
Anyone getting the commemorative coins?

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/IMG_4856_zpsd16fdf0f.jpg)

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/IMG_4855_zps1e51061a.jpg)

I sent an order form last week pero up to now wala pang confirmation reply from BSP.

panreregalo ko sa mga teachers sa school dito
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: syoti on Jan 20, 2015 at 05:36 PM
I sent an order form last week pero up to now wala pang confirmation reply from BSP.

panreregalo ko sa mga teachers sa school dito

called up bsp abt this. sbi nila they are now sorting through the emails. first come first serve. they will only send confirmation email once coins are available for releasing. i askd how will i know if they have received the email. as long as ndi dw ng mailer daemon natanggap dw nila..
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Tempter on Jan 20, 2015 at 06:20 PM
my family wears adult diapers nang pumunta sila doon and malaking pakinabang lalo na ang puwesto nila walang malapit na cr at mahirap umalis sa puwesto (lalo nakapag nasa quadrant ka) kung alam mong wala nang alisan sa puwesto...

at first tinawanan ko ang pakulo ng mmda na pasuutin ng diapers ang mga mmda traffic enforcer since there are other means para sa kapakanan ng mga traffic enforcers... pero hindi natin puwedeng pagtawanan ang mga traffic enforcer na willing magsacrifice at magsuot ng diaper para sa katiwasayan at para na rin sa kaligtasan ng lahat...


(di ko na tinanong ano nangyari sa diaper na suot nang umuwi sila sa bahay... to think na umulan pa maghapon noon... :):):)) nakita ko na lang sa labas ng bahay namin may malaking garbage bag... ang laman puro adult diaper na ang bibigat :):):)...

Yeah sa unang isip talagang mapapatawa ka, it will seem stupid. Kung wala ka sa sitwasyon na iyon, talagang magmamagaling ka pa... ;D

And that's a typical PINOY attitude... ;)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: mattia on Jan 20, 2015 at 06:53 PM
Generally, I thought the Luneta crowd went OK.  I was expecting a "Nazareno" crowd but I was rather pleased with the outcome. 

Now, yun sa basura I thought we could've done better in terms of reminding the people.  In hindsight, dapat yata madalas ang paalala to CLAYGO ( Clean as you go ).  Tipong "Basura mo, iligpit mo".  Sumusunod naman ang Pinoy basta dapat lang masigasig ang paalala.  Yun Iwas Paputok pag New Year for example.  Madami na ang umiiwas magpaputok dahil dito. But then again, in hindsight lang yan.  Everything is perfect in hindsight ika nga. 

Alam na natin ang gagawin pagdalaw ulit ng Santo Papa by January next year (I hope and pray).
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: raptor on Jan 20, 2015 at 09:31 PM
Generally, I thought the Luneta crowd went OK.  I was expecting a "Nazareno" crowd but I was rather pleased with the outcome. 

Now, yun sa basura I thought we could've done better in terms of reminding the people.  In hindsight, dapat yata madalas ang paalala to CLAYGO ( Clean as you go ).  Tipong "Basura mo, iligpit mo".  Sumusunod naman ang Pinoy basta dapat lang masigasig ang paalala.  Yun Iwas Paputok pag New Year for example.  Madami na ang umiiwas magpaputok dahil dito. But then again, in hindsight lang yan.  Everything is perfect in hindsight ika nga. 

Alam na natin ang gagawin pagdalaw ulit ng Santo Papa by January next year (I hope and pray).


the clean as you go attitude should really be part of education and family guidance to the youth, and should be regularly practiced at all places ... to give an example, I first experienced it sa Mcdo sa Japan, pagkatapos kumain tapon sa basura yung mga kalat then ligpit yung tray - ganon din na-experience ko sa US, but when I first experienced it, I was informed by my colleague kaya sinunod ko ... kung hindi ko nasubukan sa abroad, hindi ko alam na yun ang better way, kaya pag dito I practice it and also inform my nieces and nephews kaya ganon din ginagawa nila ... pero pansin ko lang, pag ginagawa ko yon parang nagtataka pa yung iba - di naman sa di sila tama, pero di kasi norm sa atin yung ganon, expectation is nagbayad ka at may taga ligpit ng pinagkainan mo ... ito rin siguro reason why sinasabi ng iba na pag sa labas disiplinado tayo - i think the reason is nag-a-adapt lang tayo, kung mai-communicate lang ng tama yung mga small things na ganon, mas magkakaroon ng awareness and things could be improved

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: toys4geeks on Jan 20, 2015 at 10:01 PM
What's your take dun sa sumbong ni Pnoy ke Pope Francis?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:43 AM

the clean as you go attitude should really be part of education and family guidance to the youth, and should be regularly practiced at all places ... to give an example, I first experienced it sa Mcdo sa Japan, pagkatapos kumain tapon sa basura yung mga kalat then ligpit yung tray - ganon din na-experience ko sa US, but when I first experienced it, I was informed by my colleague kaya sinunod ko ... kung hindi ko nasubukan sa abroad, hindi ko alam na yun ang better way, kaya pag dito I practice it and also inform my nieces and nephews kaya ganon din ginagawa nila ... pero pansin ko lang, pag ginagawa ko yon parang nagtataka pa yung iba - di naman sa di sila tama, pero di kasi norm sa atin yung ganon, expectation is nagbayad ka at may taga ligpit ng pinagkainan mo ... ito rin siguro reason why sinasabi ng iba na pag sa labas disiplinado tayo - i think the reason is nag-a-adapt lang tayo, kung mai-communicate lang ng tama yung mga small things na ganon, mas magkakaroon ng awareness and things could be improved



Sa singapore din, pati payong nakabalot sa plastic para pag sumasakay sila ng train hindi nagpuputik dahil sa tulo ng tubig sa payong.

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 21, 2015 at 01:07 PM
The government should have provided the trash cans. If you have a vehicle, there is no problem. But if you commute, ride the jeep. MRT, bus, etc. ang hirap sa tingin ko kung dala mo pa rin ang mga carton na pinag upuan mo and balutan ng mga sandwiches at plastic na lalagyan ng mga tubig.

The question is, bakit nakalimutan ang usaping basura ng Management ng mass or activity? At wala yatang reminders about the basura na inanounce after the mass?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 21, 2015 at 01:13 PM
The government should have provided the trash cans. If you have a vehicle, there is no problem. But if you commute, ride the jeep. MRT, bus, etc. ang hirap sa tingin ko kung dala mo pa rin ang mga carton na pinag upuan mo and balutan ng mga sandwiches at plastic na lalagyan ng mga tubig.

The question is, bakit nakalimutan ang usaping basura ng Management ng mass or activity? At wala yatang reminders about the basura na inanounce after the mass?

It was mentioned before walang trash cans for security measures.  Unless may see through na trash cans, pwede kasi lagyan ng incendiary device sa loob.  So naka stand-by na lang yun MMDA for the trash after the mass.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 21, 2015 at 01:31 PM
Hugely turned off by that post mass emcee cheering the crowd non-stop in the style of a political rally.  Spoiled the solemnity / spirituality of the moment when people were probably reflecting inwards.   
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 21, 2015 at 04:41 PM
Many people on rappler's posts are defending the 138 tons of garbage saying if there's consumption, there will be wastes.

Did these people even listen to the Pope?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:10 PM
Hugely turned off by that post mass emcee cheering the crowd non-stop in the style of a political rally.  Spoiled the solemnity / spirituality of the moment when people were probably reflecting inwards.

Many netizens crticized the emcee.
 
But I'm guessing he was acting under instructions to prevent the people from leaving while the popemobile was exiting, to prevent stampedes.  You can hear him repeatedly say, "Wala po munang aalis!"
 
Wala na yatang triple barricade sa path ng popemobile while inside the park.  He probably thought pleas to stay put would not be enough, so he did his best to distract the crowds to encourage them to stay put and not rush to the popemobile.   
 
Naging Willie Revillame nga lang ang dating, pero forgivable, if you take into consideration his objective.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:41 PM

Seguro another alternative sa cheering, isang kanta na lahat makakasabay while the pope mobile is on way out...

Isa rin seguro sa hindi nasama sa list of activities  after the mass... 
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:47 PM
Clean as you go? Here?

Well dreaming is free so lets dream on.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: majoe on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:48 PM
Hugely turned off by that post mass emcee cheering the crowd non-stop in the style of a political rally.  Spoiled the solemnity / spirituality of the moment when people were probably reflecting inwards.   

napapangiti na nga lang ako nun. forgivable nga sabi ni barrister. pero tama ba yung pagsigaw ng "Kristo!" .... "MABUHAY!!!"... ?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 21, 2015 at 06:59 PM
Quote
Naging Willie Revillame nga lang ang dating, pero forgivable, if you take into consideration his objective.

the good priest had since apologized after a period of reflection...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: AC on Jan 21, 2015 at 07:23 PM
baka objective niya aliwin mga tao para di mamalayan na tapos na ang programa habang papaalis si pope?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 21, 2015 at 07:27 PM
tapos na ang misa, paalis na si pope.....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 21, 2015 at 07:34 PM
I pity this young priest. I am thinking of a better way but I believe if I would be in his place i could have done the same. Kayo paano naman kaya ang mas magandang paraan?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 21, 2015 at 07:53 PM
Siguro linawin lang:

"Bawal umalis sa puwesto, baka mag stampede, may mga tv camera nakatutok sa atin, ipakita natin na may disiplina tayo."

Ulit-ulitin hanggang maka exit ang popemobile.


Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: docelmo on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:05 PM
Fr. Hans(luneta emcee) said on Headstart this morning: "with grace and humility I'm sorry, i did not come to defend but to define myself"
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jerix on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:17 PM
Siguro linawin lang:

"Bawal umalis sa puwesto, baka mag stampede, may mga tv camera nakatutok sa atin, ipakita natin na may disiplina tayo."

Ulit-ulitin hanggang maka exit ang popemobile.




That term "BAWAL" when used or given as an instruction may also be found offensive, such that one who may not have received full inspiration from Pope Francis may retort and say, bakit ma ako pagbabawalan?  hehehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 21, 2015 at 08:54 PM
 :D
 
Kawawa naman si Fr. Hans, mag "Francis Wave" na lang siya...  :D 
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 21, 2015 at 09:07 PM
Marlene Aguilar blasted Pope and Filipinos worship on him
By Patricia Gomez On January 19, 2015
 
... Calling herself a “She Dragon,” Aguilar posted the following on Facebook over the weekend:“I hereby challenge your Pope Francis to a sparring duel UFC style. If god is really on his side, then I shouldn’t be able to bring him down on the ground in 1 round. But I promise you that I will, because the true one and only god is on my side.”
 
... On Saturday, January 17, Aguilar challenged her critics to a mixed martial arts (MMA) sparring, UFC style, at the Elorde Gym in Katipunan Avenue, Quezon City.“If fully believe in God, you must be fearless to confront me. Do not be afraid because your God will save you,” she said in Filipino.

http://www.pinoyrepublic.info/marlene-aguilar-blasted-pope-filipinos-worship/#sthash.X2IO53Wz.dpuf (http://www.pinoyrepublic.info/marlene-aguilar-blasted-pope-filipinos-worship/#sthash.X2IO53Wz.dpuf)
 
 
 
 
She Dragon vs Tigress: Mystica accepts Marlene Aguilar's challenge to sparring match
By Patricia Lourdes Viray (philstar.com) | Updated January 21, 2015 - 12:39pm

... "Well, in that case, I am on. I am daring her for a one-on-one sparring with me," Mystica said on her Facebook page in response to Aguilar's challenge.

http://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/01/21/1415214/she-dragon-vs-tigress-mystica-accepts-marlene-aguilars-challenge (http://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/01/21/1415214/she-dragon-vs-tigress-mystica-accepts-marlene-aguilars-challenge)
 
 

Mystica, Marlene Aguilar set conditions for ‘fatal street fight’
InterAksyon
3ditorEntert@inment 2 hrs ago

At posting time, a cloud of uncertainty continues to hang over the long-delayed superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Meanwhile, the proposed street fight between Mystica and Marlene Aguilar might have a bigger chance of taking place as negotiations are reportedly already underway.
 
http://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/mystica-marlene-aguilar-set-conditions-for-%E2%80%98fatal-street-fight%E2%80%99/ar-AA8qeCu (http://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/mystica-marlene-aguilar-set-conditions-for-%E2%80%98fatal-street-fight%E2%80%99/ar-AA8qeCu)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 21, 2015 at 09:22 PM
Marlene Aguilar blasted Pope and Filipinos worship on him
By Patricia Gomez On January 19, 2015
 
... Calling herself a “She Dragon,” Aguilar posted the following on Facebook over the weekend:“I hereby challenge your Pope Francis to a sparring duel UFC style. If god is really on his side, then I shouldn’t be able to bring him down on the ground in 1 round. But I promise you that I will, because the true one and only god is on my side.”
 
... On Saturday, January 17, Aguilar challenged her critics to a mixed martial arts (MMA) sparring, UFC style, at the Elorde Gym in Katipunan Avenue, Quezon City.“If fully believe in God, you must be fearless to confront me. Do not be afraid because your God will save you,” she said in Filipino.

http://www.pinoyrepublic.info/marlene-aguilar-blasted-pope-filipinos-worship/#sthash.X2IO53Wz.dpuf (http://www.pinoyrepublic.info/marlene-aguilar-blasted-pope-filipinos-worship/#sthash.X2IO53Wz.dpuf)
 
 
 
 
She Dragon vs Tigress: Mystica accepts Marlene Aguilar's challenge to sparring match
By Patricia Lourdes Viray (philstar.com) | Updated January 21, 2015 - 12:39pm

... "Well, in that case, I am on. I am daring her for a one-on-one sparring with me," Mystica said on her Facebook page in response to Aguilar's challenge.

http://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/01/21/1415214/she-dragon-vs-tigress-mystica-accepts-marlene-aguilars-challenge (http://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2015/01/21/1415214/she-dragon-vs-tigress-mystica-accepts-marlene-aguilars-challenge)
 
 

Mystica, Marlene Aguilar set conditions for ‘fatal street fight’
InterAksyon
3ditorEntert@inment 2 hrs ago

At posting time, a cloud of uncertainty continues to hang over the long-delayed superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Meanwhile, the proposed street fight between Mystica and Marlene Aguilar might have a bigger chance of taking place as negotiations are reportedly already underway.
 
http://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/mystica-marlene-aguilar-set-conditions-for-%E2%80%98fatal-street-fight%E2%80%99/ar-AA8qeCu (http://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/entertainment-celebrity/mystica-marlene-aguilar-set-conditions-for-%E2%80%98fatal-street-fight%E2%80%99/ar-AA8qeCu)

Hindi ko ma-imagine paano sila mag-away. Anyway, nakakapagtaka din naman, may pumatol sa hamon ni Marlene. Hehe!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: majoe on Jan 21, 2015 at 10:23 PM
:D
 
Kawawa naman si Fr. Hans, mag "Francis Wave" na lang siya...  :D 

ooppss... priest pala siya... still, di pa rin naman mawawala respeto ng tao sa kanya. ginawa nya lang naman nya ang instruction sa kanya  :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 08:32 AM
napapangiti na nga lang ako nun. forgivable nga sabi ni barrister. pero tama ba yung pagsigaw ng "Kristo!" .... "MABUHAY!!!"... ?


why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: espionage on Jan 22, 2015 at 09:07 AM
why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?
+100
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 09:35 AM
why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?

Cardinal Tagle articulated this in the mass itself.......it carried more wight imho...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 22, 2015 at 10:56 AM
why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?

Hindi ba mastama yun kasi according to the pope, Jesus is the center of everything. So dapat si Jesus ang ni-glorify.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 11:35 AM
dapat lang, and even the vatican emphasized that sa kanilang pronouncements,
even the pope himself said, it is not about him, but Jesus....

do not let appearances mislead us....do not miss the forest for the trees....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 22, 2015 at 11:41 AM

Pwede rin isigaw ang "Mabuhay ang Sto. Niño" dahil ang celebration ay para sa batang si Jesus.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 22, 2015 at 11:52 AM
dapat lang, and even the vatican emphasized that sa kanilang pronouncements,
even the pope himself said, it is not about him, but Jesus....

do not let appearances mislead us....do not miss the forest for the trees....

hmmm... para maging effective ang sinasabi ng vatican... they need/must to remove first the title "vicar of Christ" sa pope... :)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:02 PM
hmmm... para maging effective ang sinasabi ng vatican... they need/must to remove first the title "vicar of Christ" sa pope... :)

why are we so ever conscious about labels....? it is the message and not the messenger...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:04 PM
lumalabas ang mga experts at mga analysts pagkatapos ng event....wala lang....chit-chat lang....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:12 PM
:)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:18 PM
why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?

if you listened carefully during the Luneta mass, Cardinal Tagle mentioned Jesus almost with the same vigor and volume during the mas itself.....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:38 PM
Very ironic.

Kami pang mga non-Catholics ang nagdedefend na dapat sundin natin si Pope Francis when he said we ought to care for our environment. Yung ibang mga faithful sa FB they are defending that normal lang ang maging makalat after the Quirino Grandstand mass.

Parang yung personality lang ang pinuntahan nila at hindi yung mensahe.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:46 PM
Very ironic.

Kami pang mga non-Catholics ang nagdedefend na dapat sundin natin si Pope Francis when he said we ought to care for our environment. Yung ibang mga faithful sa FB they are defending that normal lang ang maging makalat after the Quirino Grandstand mass.

Parang yung personality lang ang pinuntahan nila at hindi yung mensahe.

Sa iba kasi parang normal na sa atin na makalat after any event... na meron naman magagawa kung gagawin ng bawat isa lalo na sa mga public activities ....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:48 PM
hindi naman kasi si Pope ang mensahe....
ang pinagkaibang malaki ng mga catholics sa non-catholic Christians ay yung devotion to Mama Mary...

catholic and non-catholic Christians believe that Jesus is God, this is a fundamental belief..
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM
Sa iba kasi parang normal na sa atin na makalat after any event... na meron naman magagawa kung gagawin ng bawat isa lalo na sa mga public activities ....

dito lang naman sa atin yan, ang mga pinoy sa abroad napaka desiplinado....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:50 PM
Sa iba kasi parang normal na sa atin na makalat after any event... na meron naman magagawa kung gagawin ng bawat isa lalo na sa mga public activities ....

Yun nga sir ang punto natin, dumating tayo sa venue na walang kalat, iwan nating walang kalat.

Di ko tuloy maisip kung ganito din kaya ugali nila sa bahay, kumain ng kendi, tapon sa sahig ng bahay? pwede namang iuwi ang sariling kalat. Itapon sa kani-kanyang basurahan.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM
hindi naman kasi si Pope ang mensahe....
ang pinagkaibang malaki ng mga catholics sa non-catholic Christians ay yung devotion to Mama Mary...

catholic and non-catholic Christians believe that Jesus is God, this is a fundamental belief..


I don't believe he is God, but a messenger of God. His Son but he is distinct from the father. I consider myself a Christian.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:08 PM
I don't believe he is God, but a messenger of God. His Son but he is distinct from the father. I consider myself a Christian.

sure, that is called freedom of religion...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:28 PM
un isa kilala ko namiesta sa tondo tas ngpunta luneta. Sakripisyo makita c kiko...ayon 2 days absent,sick.
Sabi ko, ako sarap himbing tulog bedweder nun. Essence nmn ay pagsamba sa Diyos. Mismo c pope kiko ayaw na cya ang rockstar of da show. Diyos ang bida at kung paano isasabuhay ang mga tinuro niya. Masyado personality oriented ang pinoy
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:31 PM
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Masyado personality oriented ang pinoy

sinabi mo pa sadik, kaya huwag tayong magulat kung manalong pangulo si Erap or Binay.... >:D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:35 PM
sinabi mo pa sadik, kaya huwag tayong magulat kung manalong pangulo si Erap or Binay.... >:D


I remember Tatad's remarks about Erap when they were still campaigning (him with Miriam) against many others including Erap.

he said when they asked people if they want a President that is sugarol, the people would shout AYAW!
they asked people if they want a President that is babaero, the people would shout AYAW!

when they asked "Sino ang iboboto nyo?" the people shouted "ERAP!"
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:40 PM
inakupo....ang iboboto ng tao yung AYAW nila..... ??? :o :'(
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 22, 2015 at 01:51 PM
inakupo....ang iboboto ng tao yung AYAW nila..... ??? :o :'(

many Filipinos think like this. They hate things but still love the person who does the things they hate.

I just posted it to somehow support ojofool's observation about Pinoy's focus on personalities and not on the message they carry. Going back to the topic: The Green Pope having an audience who in some ways have manifested the opposite of what the Pope's message should have effected
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: majoe on Jan 22, 2015 at 06:14 PM
why not? if we can shout Viva Il Papa, why not for Christ?

tingin ko lang kasi parang di appropriate.  yung "Mabuhay!" applicable lang dapat sa mortal kasama na  ang pope.

at para sa mga naniniwalang si Jesus Christ ay Diyos, dapat pa ba nating sabihing "Mabuhay!" ?  e samantalang Siya nga itong nagbibigay buhay ?  ???
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 22, 2015 at 06:25 PM

Kun ganun, di na rin pwede ang "viva santo niño" ...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Tempter on Jan 22, 2015 at 06:28 PM
Langyah kasing Mabuhay yan e, pauso! ;D

Natatawa ako pag may mga bisita dito kungwari mahilig tayong magsabi ng mabuhay, e ang totoo wala naman gumagawa nyan sa tunay na buhay... :D

May masabi lang na ugali naten mga pinoy yan haha!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: zonks on Jan 22, 2015 at 06:33 PM
Langyah kasing Mabuhay yan e, pauso! ;D

Natatawa ako pag may mga bisita dito kungwari mahilig tayong magsabi ng mabuhay, e ang totoo wala naman gumagawa nyan sa tunay na buhay... :D


hehehe onga eh, meron pang Happy Morning na ngayun...

May masabi lang na ugali naten mga pinoy yan haha!
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: majoe on Jan 22, 2015 at 06:53 PM
Kun ganun, di na rin pwede ang "viva santo niño" ...

baka naman para sa lugar o barangay yan na tawag ay sto. niño.

kasi kung sa mismong imahe yan, aba eh baka magulat na lang tayo pag biglang nabuhay yun. wag naman sana.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tenderfender on Jan 22, 2015 at 07:36 PM
Yari! Mukhang talagang may matinding kumita dito!!!

PNP probes missing papal visit funds

http://www.philstar.com/metro/2015/01/22/1415414/pnp-probes-missing-papal-visit-funds
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sovrain on Jan 22, 2015 at 09:01 PM
Yari! Mukhang talagang may matinding kumita dito!!!

PNP probes missing papal visit funds

http://www.philstar.com/metro/2015/01/22/1415414/pnp-probes-missing-papal-visit-funds
alin ang mas masahol, ito o yung basura ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Jan 22, 2015 at 10:25 PM
baka naman para sa lugar o barangay yan na tawag ay sto. niño.

kasi kung sa mismong imahe yan, aba eh baka magulat na lang tayo pag biglang nabuhay yun. wag naman sana.

No, ang tinutukoy na Sto. Niño ay yung Child Jesus, hindi yung lugar.
 
The feast of the Sto. Niño is usually considered a month-long celebration in January, because different places in the Phils. have different Sto. Niño feast dates in January.
 
Bakit Spanish, hindi Filipino, yung sinasabing "Viva el Sto. Niño"?  Kahit nasa Cebu ka, Viva Señor Sto. Niño pa rin?  Kasi Spanish time nakarating dito yung first image of the Sto. Niño, binigay ni Magellan.  Kaya Español pa rin yung traditional language na ginagamit.  The image is now in a chapel in Cebu, said to be the oldest Catholic relic in the Phils. 

Ano kinalaman ng Sto. Niño kay Pope?   Natiyempo kasi na Papal visit in January, kasabay ng mga iba-ibang Sto. Niño celebrations in January.  Due to the coiniciding celebrations, the  Sto. Niño was often mentioned during the Papal visit.  Kaya rin maraming may dalang Sto. Niño image.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 22, 2015 at 10:40 PM

No, ang tinutukoy na Sto. Niño ay yung Child Jesus, hindi yung lugar.
 
The feast of the Sto. Niño is usually considered a month-long celebration in January, because different places in the Phils. have different Sto. Niño feast dates in January.
 
Bakit Spanish, hindi Filipino, yung sinasabing "Viva el Sto. Niño"?  Kahit nasa Cebu ka, Viva Señor Sto. Niño pa rin?  Kasi Spanish time nakarating dito yung first image of the Sto. Niño, binigay ni Magellan.  Kaya Español pa rin yung traditional language na ginagamit.  The image is now in a chapel in Cebu, said to be the oldest Catholic relic in the Phils. 

Ano kinalaman ng Sto. Niño kay Pope?   Natiyempo kasi na Papal visit in January, kasabay ng mga iba-ibang Sto. Niño celebrations in January.  Due to the coiniciding celebrations, the  Sto. Niño was often mentioned during the Papal visit.  Kaya rin maraming may dalang Sto. Niño image.

also, nasa news na hinikayat (ng mga pari?) na dalhin ang mga Sto. Niño para daw mablessan ni Pope.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 23, 2015 at 05:40 PM
A Filipino atheist's letter to Pope Francis. (http://www.rappler.com/rappler-blogs/marguerite-de-leon/78960-filipino-atheist-letter-pope-francis)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 23, 2015 at 05:53 PM
A Filipino atheist's letter to Pope Francis. (http://www.rappler.com/rappler-blogs/marguerite-de-leon/78960-filipino-atheist-letter-pope-francis)

atheism is also a Faith, Faith in the non-existence of God...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: krets pulpol on Jan 23, 2015 at 07:35 PM
Nakow, dami pa ring anumalya. Yung mga pulis na binayaran tapos ngayon yung mga tinagong palaboy ng DSWD.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 23, 2015 at 07:43 PM

As expected, magulo pa rin ang sistema . . .
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 23, 2015 at 08:15 PM
atheism is also a Faith, Faith in the non-existence of God...

In a way, yes. But most atheists would say that if you can prove to them that there IS a God, they will change their mind On the other hand, most religious people would reject anything outright that tries to disprove the existence of God.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 24, 2015 at 08:29 AM
In a way, yes. But most atheists would say that if you can prove to them that there IS a God, they will change their mind On the other hand, most religious people would reject anything outright that tries to disprove the existence of God.

faith does not require proof, kaya nga faith eh....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: sdsmds on Jan 26, 2015 at 04:55 PM
Nakow, dami pa ring anumalya. Yung mga pulis na binayaran tapos ngayon yung mga tinagong palaboy ng DSWD.
grabe ito bros. tinatago yung mga palaboy sa mga nice resort pag may VIP. gawain na daw ito noon pang dati. sa kapulisan naman natin wala na rin pag asa kse tolerated by the gov't.
hindi talaga tuwid itong daan na ito kse ginagaya nya pati mali pra pomigi sa paningin ng mundo.
tama talaga hinala ko kay pnoy after what i saw in him after the luneta hostage... na nagkamali na naman ng binoto ang taong bayan...niloko or naloko na naman
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 26, 2015 at 04:58 PM
buti nga ngayon nakakabalik pa sila at nakakausap ng media...

eh nung panahon ng diktaduryang Marcos, pag dinampot ka, maghabol kaanak mo sa tambol mayor....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 26, 2015 at 05:44 PM
The problem with the media coverage of Pope Francis. (http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/81727-problem-media-coverage-pope-francis)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 26, 2015 at 07:09 PM
The problem with the media coverage of Pope Francis. (http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/81727-problem-media-coverage-pope-francis)

that is called press freedom....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jan 27, 2015 at 01:00 AM
The problem with the media coverage of Pope Francis. (http://www.rappler.com/specials/pope-francis-ph/81727-problem-media-coverage-pope-francis)

Im not interested on the knowing the pope's life...rather wanted to hear his message for us..for me it was not a problem at all...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 27, 2015 at 07:03 AM
Im not interested on the knowing the pope's life...rather wanted to hear his message for us..for me it was not a problem at all...

this is called being sensible...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: oweidah on Jan 27, 2015 at 02:01 PM
dswd gimmick, prang imeldific
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dana on Jan 27, 2015 at 03:02 PM
dswd gimmick, prang imeldific

ka rene, tuwing nakikita ko yang mala-parrot colored hair ni dinky doo, ewan ko ba at nabubwisit ako.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 27, 2015 at 10:57 PM
gusto n'yong mapangiti o matawa?

please watch:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152206952703190&set=vb.556623189&type=2&theater
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 28, 2015 at 03:19 AM
gusto n'yong mapangiti o matawa?

please watch:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152206952703190&set=vb.556623189&type=2&theater

Nice one....;D
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 28, 2015 at 07:02 AM
the Pope is human after all.....;)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: praktikal on Jan 28, 2015 at 08:19 AM
tahimik mga tao nung nagtanong kung ano ang diff ng outlaws at in-laws... haha!

magiging klasik ito...:)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 28, 2015 at 03:32 PM
luma na yan, bata pa ako naririnig ko na yan kay Pepe Pimentel....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Klaus Weasley on Jan 29, 2015 at 08:26 PM
The Catholic Church is complicit in Glyzelle Palomar's suffering. (http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/catholic-churchs-complicity-glyzelle-palomars-suffering)
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Jan 30, 2015 at 08:41 AM
The Catholic Church is complicit in Glyzelle Palomar's suffering. (http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/catholic-churchs-complicity-glyzelle-palomars-suffering)

not only the church, but the whole society is complicit, no singe entity iss solely responsible.....
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: dpogs on Jan 30, 2015 at 08:52 AM
may pinagdaanan talaga sa Catholic... lahat na lang ng sisi nasa simbahang Roman Catholic :):):)

Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 30, 2015 at 03:22 PM
We need a pope who is strong enough to change the Vatican Council II's stand on contraception. We need an Albino Luciani-like pope.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 30, 2015 at 03:32 PM
^ seguro yung bibigyan ng laya ang mag-asawa mag desisyon sa laki (dami ng anak) ng kanilang magiging pamilya. Ibahin ng rin ang tawag sa Family planning", gawing - Family education (edukasyon sa pagpapamilya) para mawala yung connotation ng contraception.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 30, 2015 at 09:29 PM
We need a pope who is strong enough to change the Vatican Council II's stand on contraception. We need an Albino Luciani-like pope.

Nagkaroon na ata dati, nasibak lang into resignation ng mga "nakapaligid".
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: Quitacet on Jan 31, 2015 at 05:49 AM
Nagkaroon na ata dati, nasibak lang into resignation ng mga "nakapaligid".

Nope. He was poisoned by the priest who runs the Vatican Bank with the help of the mafia who is laundering money via the Institute for Religious Works.
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: tony on Sep 28, 2015 at 08:12 AM
from the recent pronouncements of the Pope in the US visit...
celibacy which is man made and not part of any dogma or doctrine can change in time...
Francis is a pope like no other...
Title: Re: The Papal Visit 2015
Post by: barrister on Sep 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM
Nope. He was poisoned by the priest who runs the Vatican Bank with the help of the mafia who is laundering money via the Institute for Religious Works.

Napanood ko yan sa Godfather III... :D

But that's just a conspiracy theory.  It's not historical fact.