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Entertainment => Film & TV Talk => Pinoy Entertainment => Topic started by: llanesmark777 on Feb 07, 2004 at 04:32 AM
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To all the readers im not that good in terms of who are the best filipino film directors? Why do you like them? And what film did there real best.
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
Yeah. Right. ::)
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One lang, p're: Mike de Leon lang... ;D
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Mike de Leon---> he's a freaking genius! And he made, at least to me, only one dud. Have yet to see "Bilango sa Dilim" though.
Lino Brocka---> he may have done alot of forgettable flix during the latter part of his career, but the movies that he made during the 70's best captured the look, feel, and tension of the period.
Mario O' Hara---> have only seen two of his works but it is enough for me to conclude how good a director he is.
I can so far name only three. Should I add Mike Relon Makiling? Tony Y. Reyes? Carlo J.? ;D ;D ;D
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I never miss any of their works:
Joyce Bernal
Jeff Jeturian
Laurice Guillen
Mike De Leon
Quark Henares
After Crying Ladies, I won't miss any of Mark Meily's works.
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I forgot to add Lav Diaz
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My top 5 Filipino filmmakers:
1. PEQUE GALLAGA- he's on top form during the 80's with 5 movies I really like from Oro Plata Mata, Scorpio Nights, Virgin Forest, Unfaithful Wife to ISANG ARAW WALANG DIYOS.
2. LINO BROCKA/ISHMAEL BERNAL (RIP)-the 70's & 80's will never be complete without these two National Artists.
3. MIKE DE LEON- no need for explanation. The next National Artist. ITIM you can just watch it over & over again and you always see something new.
4. Maryo J. delos Reyes- Magnifico deserves all the hype, Tagos ng Dugo had a rough sailing with the censors, Bagets defined the movie of my youth. Forgot the other one with Charo Santos as the female patriarch which spans three generations.
5. Jeffrey Jeturian- he's a mix of Brocka & Bernal.
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Mike de Leon
Lino Brocka
Ishmael Bernal
Gerry de Leon
Based on their respective bodies of work, these four are tops in my list.
For the fifth slot, it will be a toss-up between Raymond Red and Kidlat Tahimik.
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Top five?
5) Ishmael Bernal - great cynic of Philippine Cinema, also its funniest filmmaker
4) Mike de Leon - chill, perhaps crazed hermit genius, the cinema's great intellectual.
3) Gerardo de Leon - great classicist, with a John Ford eye (maybe only Celso Ad. Castillo is his equal), and a number of films on an incredibly wide range of subjects.
2) Lino Brocka - maybe the one filmmaker that best speaks out the heart of the Filipino. His true specialty was a narrow range--social-realist drama--but when he was at top form no one could touch him.
1) Mario O'Hara - What can I say? Great eye, great actor, greater scriptwriter, a triple threat. The wildest imagination, the most moving, most understated, truest storytelling style. I'd pick Breakwater over that hobbit film anytime, in an instant.
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I have to see more films by Gerry de Leon...
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His Sawa sa Lumang Simboryo, it's a great fantasy film.
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Laurice Guillen- Salome
Celso ad Castillo- Burlesk Queen
Lino Broka- Ina ka ng anak mo
Ishmael Bernal- City after dark
Maryo J. delos Reyes- Tagos ng dugo
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Oh, best works. Well...
Ishmael Bernal - Manila by Night
Mike de Leon - Kisapmata
Gerardo de Leon - El Filibusterismo
Lino Brocka - Insiang
Mario O'Hara - Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
On sceond thought, I'd put Gerry in fourth place, Mike on third. El Fili's great, but Kisapmata had a stronger impact on me.
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1. Lino Brocka (Insiang)/Mario O'hara (Tatlong Taong Walang Dios)
2. Mike de Leon(Kisapmata) - wala siyang katapat...at walang kapalit
3. Peque Gallaga(Oro,Plata, Mata)/ Celso Ad Castillo(Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-itim ng Tagak)
4. Jeffrey Jeturian(Pila Balde)/ Lav Diaz(Batang Westside)
5. Raymond Red (Anino)/Aureus Solito(Huling El Bimbo, the best Pinoy MTV evaah!)
special mention : Joey Gosiengfiao and Elwood Perez ;D
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Interesting, you pair em? Why is that, may I ask?
Excellent choices, nevertheless. I especially like the Elwood / Joey mention.
Ey--no Bernal? Tikoy Aguiluz? Sabagay, I don't have on my list either, along with Conde and Silos (they'd probably be in the next five).
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Oh, best works. Well...
Ishmael Bernal - Manila by Night
Mike de Leon - Kisapmata
Gerardo de Leon - El Filibusterismo
Lino Brocka - Insiang
Mario O'Hara - Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
On sceond thought, I'd put Gerry in fourth place, Mike on third. El Fili's great, but Kisapmata had a stronger impact on me.
Even Joel David cites MANILA BY NIGHT as Bernal's best.
In his book he tried to compare PEQUE GALLAGA to MARIO O'HARA.
No one can match the campiness of films made by Elwood & Joey Gosienfiao. Those flirty movies are now part of history even though they are not on the best or greatest Filipino films ever made.
Maybe in the future there will be a retrospective of PEREZ & GOSIENFIAO movies. ;D
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Interesting, you pair em? Why is that, may I ask?
Excellent choices, nevertheless. I especially like the Elwood / Joey mention.
Ey--no Bernal? Tikoy Aguiluz? Sabagay, I don't have on my list either, along with Conde and Silos (they'd probably be in the next five).
Syet. I forgot Bernal. Lemme tweak my choices. Tikoy is in 6th place. I decided not to include the old masters (silos,conde,de leon) kasi I am yet to see their other products. Though Brocka and Bernal made waves in the 70s, I think the artistic outputs of Mario is heavier than that of Bernal. Brocka is Brocka. He is perhaps the most influential Filipino film maker of all time. I mentioned to
Jeffrey Jeturian before na for every decade, at least two good film makers emerge.
70s 1/2 : Bernal/Brocka
70s 1/2 : Gallaga/ Castillo
80s 1/2 : O'hara/de Leon
80s 1/2 : Abbo/ Tikoy
90s 1/2 : Red/Solito
90s 1/2 : Jeturian/Diaz
Nothing profound behind the pairings, I just wanted to squeezed in my faves. Eh kung top ten, di si Brocka na ang number 1.
1. Lino Brocka (Insiang)/Mario O'hara (Tatlong Taong Walang Dios)
2. Ishmael Bernal(Manila by Night)/Mike de Leon(Kisapmata)
3. Peque Gallaga(Oro,Plata, Mata)/ Celso Ad Castillo(Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-itim ng Tagak)
4. Jeffrey Jeturian(Pila Balde)/ Lav Diaz(Batang Westside)
5. Raymond Red (Anino)/Aureus Solito(Huling El Bimbo, the best Pinoy MTV evaah!)
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6. Tikoy Aguiluz(Boatman)/ Abbo dela Cruz (Misterio sa Tuwa)
special mention : Joey Gosiengfiao and Elwood Perez
Funny thing is si Bernal at Brocka na lang ang hindi ko pa namimeet in person. Hehehehe. My friend Jay told me that it was Mike de Leon whom he pointed out during the Cinemanila premiere of Y Tu Mama two years ago . Kung siya iyon, man, he is old.
Sadly, after Jeturian and Diaz, walang sumunod na magaling.
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
poor u. u dont exist. hehehe
dont ever bitch pinoy movies/director in front of me.
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In his book he tried to compare PEQUE GALLAGA to MARIO O'HARA.
Ah, that's where he leaped out the window and flew into the Twilight Zone. I heartily disagree.
Gallaga, to his credit, acknowledges his masters, and cites Tatlong Taong as one of his favorite films.
It doesn't hurt that he gives a wonderful, wonderful performance in that film ;D (he does, I think he has a real career as an actor).
"retrospective on Perez and Gosengfiao"
In a better, more open-minded world there would be.
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
Somehow, I'm reminded of an Eskimo claiming that summer in Hawaii "sucks" because he didn't like the picture he saw on a battered postcard one time.
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Somehow, I'm reminded of an Eskimo claiming that summer in Hawaii "sucks" because he didn't like the picture he saw on a battered postcard one time.
Gotcha, but me, it's February, and I'm trying to be nice. ;D
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I rarely contribute to threads I know next to absolutely nothing, but maybe I can add my two cents and use whatever I know to look at our own directorial visionaries. My subjective take (in no particular order):
(1) Kidlat Tahimik - I don't know if his Perfumed Nightmare was done intentionally to provoke post-structuralist readings but that film constantly open newer avenues for alternative interpretations other than what Fredric Jameson wrote about it and art naif in general. I haven't seen Tahimik's Turumba nor his other one with a longish title that has a color on it, but I surely rank him as one of the auteurs the Philippines produced with a vision almost staggering in its ambition and promise. Does he still produce a film? I wonder where he is based now.
(2) Mike de Leon is almost in everyone's list and I join the chorus of approval. I don't know what's it about me that just believe that this eccentric director can't do no wrong. Kakabakaba Ka Ba? may be dated but powerful and revolutionary in its magnificent use of genre and of breaking that tradition in subtle ways by using colonialism and imperialism as its theme. Kisapmata is very organic and an intense experience to watch. So's with Bayaning Third World which revisits and revises our convention in valorizing national heroes.
(3) Peque Gallaga's epic scale and grandeur is a marvel. Raves have been heaped on him about his films from Oro Plata Mata to even Ang Kabit ni Mrs Montero because of the singularity of focus and the multi-lingual way (in cinematic terms) he engages his viewers. He has a certain visual style that unmistakably borrows from the masters of classical art, be it painting or opera (the diegetic use of Lily Pons in one scene in Oro Plata Mata has an erudition and attention to detail that's almost Scorsesean). Obviously I have not seen all of his films, but the little I watched, enthralled and engaged me.
Lord, identifying the last two directors is getting harder than I thought.
(4) Lav Diaz's Batang Westside shows great promise even if most people remember its length rather than the brilliant employment of staticness and non-formula pace in telling a story of alienated Filipinos abroad. I have not seen his other films, but this one film and its possibilities point to an artist that can further take the spectator to new heights.
(5) Ishmael Bernal's very special way in creating ordinary lives stand out is in itself an achievement, I think. Himala is a miracle indeed with its Biblical allusions and the for creating a vivid picture of mass hysteria in a small town. Nunal sa Tubig is also special because of its borrowing from Indian filmmaking (where Bernal I think finished a degree or something?). I guess what I like about his film is an almost tongue-in-cheek understanding of what Third Cinema constitutes and how he can make it distinctively Filipino rather than Latin American where Third Cinema germinated.
Others I like include:
Lino Brocka - outstanding in his depictions of the subaltern and using backdrops that relate to our Christian tradition. I love most of his films though my only gripe (and this is just me, I'm sure) is that his films, while showing the grittiness of urban life as correlative to capitalism's non-privileging of the poor, sometimes end where the subaltern he closely identifies with, dying and being victims of dominant ideologies. I'm sure there are film scholars in this thread who can shed light more about this than me, but that's what I see as recurring in his films and I think its not transformative enough.
Tikoy Aguiliz - is best when he constructs urban dramas about deception and crimes of the heart. If given the right material, Tikoy can astound as much as he can bring you to unexpected places. I like his revisionist Flor Contemplacion film better than the one with Nora Aunor (even if I only have the highest respect to the superstar).
On the strength of Babae sa Bubungang Lata and Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos, I, too salute Mario O'Hara. I haven't seen Babae sa Breakwater yet but I might get a VCD of it when I go back to Manila.
I also see great promise in Jeff Jeturian and this director who did Magnifico and Radyo. Pardon my sacrilege but I didn't quite "get" Utang ni Tatang much as I would like to. Was this Raymond Red's? I met him three or four years ago in CineManila and he was kind enough to give me his card when I told him I am a fan of Anino and his other short film prior to this (the title of which escapes me but which I prefer over Anino). But the creativity to break new grounds is there.
And that's it actually. Obviously I have not seen much Filipino films. I only watch those which are recommended and those I find intriguing in premise.
I would like to watch the films of Celso Ad Castillo, Elwood Perez, Quark Henares and this young director whose name I forgot but which I was meaning to ask for more info from people here in the List.
Lastly, after gorging myself to a lot of film theory readings in grad school this semester, I realized one thing and I am serious here: seems that those with a singular vision as directors and with the capacity to treat camera and subject by their own terms are those who started out as film critics, like Godard and Truffaut. It would be interesting what critics like Roland Tolentino and Noel Vera can do when given the chance to meg their own films.
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Of the ones I saw, here's my top 5 .. but not necessarily in order of their ranking. I don't think I could rank them since they all have different styles. They all have different strengths and weaknesses.
* Lino Brocka. Of his films that I saw, I got blown away the most by Insiang. Not to underestimate his other works, I love most of them (Maynila Sa Kuko ng Liwanag, Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang, Jaguar, Bona, Bayan Ko, Ina Ka Ng Anak Mo, Cain at Abel, Miguelito Ang Batang Rebelde) but his works from the late 80s onward were really not impressive (Macho Dancer, Orapronobis). My biggest "regret" if you can call it that way, was never seing Tubog Sa Ginto.
* Mike de Leon. When I saw Kakabakaba Ka Ba?, I was laughing so hard. I thought I should check out his other works. Kisapmata. Batch '81. Itim. Bayaning Third World. I think he also did Karnal, but I thought that movie was a little shaky.
* Ishmael Bernal. Himala and Manila By Night were good enough for me. Didn't he do Relasyon and Hinugot Sa Langit (that abortion movie by Maricel Soriano) ? I did like Nunal sa Tubig. I thought it was good story telling and the actors delivered good performances ( Daria Ramirez and Elizabeth Oropesa).
* Mario O' Hara. I saw Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos because of Nora Aunor. I was too young to care who the director was. Next time I saw it, I was already aware of these things and decided to check out his other works (Bulaklak ng City Jail, Condemned, Bagong Hari, which sadly didn't get a lot of attention as it was shown I think around the Edsa revolution).
I have a couple of names to complete my 5 best but I really can't decide which one to elevate into that pedestal.
Laurice Guillen - Salome. Init Sa Magdamag. If only she made more.
Celso Ad Castillo - Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-itim ng Tagak, Burlesk Queen. I can't say much since I heard most of his best works were in the 70s, and sadly, didn't know any of them.
Peque Gallaga. Truth be told, I prefer his episode in the first Shake, Rattle and Roll movie, the one with Herbert Bautista and Irma Alegre (yata) in the Mananaggal episode over Scorpio Nights and Oro, Plata, Mata (great cinematography).
Maryo J. delos Reyes. Bagets. Saan Darating Ang Umaga? Tagos ng Dugo. All good films for me, but others I think were either too light or just didn't live up to my expectations.
I wish I saw more of Gerry de Leon, Eddie Romero, Chito Rono.
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I think Kidlat is still based in Baguio. From what I hear, his son is also starting to delve into filmmaking. Groucho, that other title you were thinking of could be "Bakit Yellow ang Gitna ng Rainbow?" I've seen both and they're awesome cinema.
Kakabanas, Karnal was directed by Marilou Diaz Abaya. De Leon directed Kisapmata. :)
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Kaka, I'd include Laurice and Celso as my next five, along with Lamberto Avellana, Tikoy Aguiluz, Lav Diaz, Manuel Conde, Manuel Silos, and Raymond Red. Definitely some of the better Filipino filmmakers around.
My favorite Kidlat would be Turumba. It's not as radical as Perfumed Nightmare, but I think it's aged better and is pretty funny, in an understated way.
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Kakabanas, Karnal was directed by Marilou Diaz Abaya. De Leon directed Kisapmata. :)
Thanks. I stand corrected. ;)
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Kaka, I'd include Laurice and Celso as my next five, along with Lamberto Avellana, Tikoy Aguiluz, Lav Diaz, Manuel Conde, Manuel Silos, and Raymond Red. Definitely some of the better Filipino filmmakers around.
I don't think I have seen an Avellana, Conde, or Silos film. If I am not mistaken, they were from 40s-60s. I am not that old (hehehe) and I don't have access to those films.
I only saw The Boatman once, for Aguiluz, and I was impressed. But one film doesn't make it for me. Same with Raymond Red. I hope I could see more of his films.
I haven't seen any Lav Diaz movies.
So with that in mind, I can't include them even in my next 5. Sowee, but thanks Noel. I'll keep them in mind when I get the chance.
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Indieboi, thanks for that info on Kidlat Tahimik. It would be interesting to see him do another film in the light of the available technology that flooded the market. And yes, that's the film I was referring to and I like its Filipino title better than its English title because it captures our moment of bi-lingualism more. I think.
Noel, are his films in VCD or DVD formats and are they available in the market? I would like to get subtitled ones I can show around here in campus. I heard about Turumba from one article I read in a film journal and I envy these non-Filipinos for having watched these films before I did (sorry, its just my Aries zodiac sign that wants itself first in everything).
And I just remembered the other short film of Raymond Red that impressed me more than Anino: its Ang Magpakailanman -- beautiful title.
I still can't remember this young Filipino director who did a promising debut film. But from what I remembered people talking about it, its MTVish with some splashes of originality. I have to see that one if only I can remember its title and the director. God, my memory is quite selective. I must be having early signs of Alzheimer's.
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I only saw The Boatman once, for Aguiluz, and I was impressed. But one film doesn't make it for me.
Segurista (Dead Sure) is probably available on Viva VCDs. Also Rizal sa Dapitan. Cinema One shows Bagong Bayani once in a while. Those would be some of his best works.
"Same with Raymond Red. I hope I could see more of his films."
The shorts are available for viewing at UP Film Center and Mowelfund. They're much better than his features.
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Segurista (Dead Sure) is probably available on Viva VCDs. Also Rizal sa Dapitan. Cinema One shows Bagong Bayani once in a while. Those would be some of his best works.
"Same with Raymond Red. I hope I could see more of his films."
The shorts are available for viewing at UP Film Center and Mowelfund. They're much better than his features.
Noel, I do not have Cinema One. And I certainly do not have access to UP Film Center or Mowelfund. I am in the US, remember ? ;D ;D ;D
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Old: Peque Gallaga
New: Yam Laranas and Quark Henares
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I still can't remember this young Filipino director who did a promising debut film. But from what I remembered people talking about it, its MTVish with some splashes of originality. I have to see that one if only I can remember its title and the director. God, my memory is quite selective. I must be having early signs of Alzheimer's.
Is it Mark Meily who megged Crying Ladies? The film won most of the awards from the last Metro Manila Film Fest.
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Noel, I do not have Cinema One. And I certainly do not have access to UP Film Center or Mowelfund. I am in the US, remember ? ;D ;D ;D
Being there when the older films were around helps enormously, but still being there when new work is being done does help round off one's knowledge.
I know exactly what you mean, man. Tikoy's and Lav's better films should be available online, but their very best work...well, you got to be in Manila to see them...
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Sorry, only saw this now.
quote author=Groucho G
"Noel, are his films in VCD or DVD formats and are they available in the market?"
I know video stores in Manhattan used to carry VHS copies of his films. You could try, oh, Netflix, or Facets.org, or places like that...who knows...
"And I just remembered the other short film of Raymond Red that impressed me more than Anino: its Ang Magpakailanman -- beautiful title. "
That's maybe my favorite Filipino experimental film ever, and Red's masterpiece.
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Noel, Jeff promised to give me a clear copy of Bridal Shower for you. No exact date when but I'll Fed-ex it as soon as Jeff handed it to me.
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I rarely contribute to threads I know next to absolutely nothing, but maybe I can add my two cents and use whatever I know to look at our own directorial visionaries. My subjective take (in no particular order):
(1) Kidlat Tahimik - I don't know if his Perfumed Nightmare was done intentionally to provoke post-structuralist readings but that film constantly open newer avenues for alternative interpretations other than what Fredric Jameson wrote about it and art naif in general. I haven't seen Tahimik's Turumba nor his other one with a longish title that has a color on it, but I surely rank him as one of the auteurs the Philippines produced with a vision almost staggering in its ambition and promise. Does he still produce a film? I wonder where he is based now.
(2) Mike de Leon is almost in everyone's list and I join the chorus of approval. I don't know what's it about me that just believe that this eccentric director can't do no wrong. Kakabakaba Ka Ba? may be dated but powerful and revolutionary in its magnificent use of genre and of breaking that tradition in subtle ways by using colonialism and imperialism as its theme. Kisapmata is very organic and an intense experience to watch. So's with Bayaning Third World which revisits and revises our convention in valorizing national heroes.
(3) Peque Gallaga's epic scale and grandeur is a marvel. Raves have been heaped on him about his films from Oro Plata Mata to even Ang Kabit ni Mrs Montero because of the singularity of focus and the multi-lingual way (in cinematic terms) he engages his viewers. He has a certain visual style that unmistakably borrows from the masters of classical art, be it painting or opera (the diegetic use of Lily Pons in one scene in Oro Plata Mata has an erudition and attention to detail that's almost Scorsesean). Obviously I have not seen all of his films, but the little I watched, enthralled and engaged me.
Lord, identifying the last two directors is getting harder than I thought.
(4) Lav Diaz's Batang Westside shows great promise even if most people remember its length rather than the brilliant employment of staticness and non-formula pace in telling a story of alienated Filipinos abroad. I have not seen his other films, but this one film and its possibilities point to an artist that can further take the spectator to new heights.
(5) Ishmael Bernal's very special way in creating ordinary lives stand out is in itself an achievement, I think. Himala is a miracle indeed with its Biblical allusions and the for creating a vivid picture of mass hysteria in a small town. Nunal sa Tubig is also special because of its borrowing from Indian filmmaking (where Bernal I think finished a degree or something?). I guess what I like about his film is an almost tongue-in-cheek understanding of what Third Cinema constitutes and how he can make it distinctively Filipino rather than Latin American where Third Cinema germinated.
Others I like include:
Lino Brocka - outstanding in his depictions of the subaltern and using backdrops that relate to our Christian tradition. I love most of his films though my only gripe (and this is just me, I'm sure) is that his films, while showing the grittiness of urban life as correlative to capitalism's non-privileging of the poor, sometimes end where the subaltern he closely identifies with, dying and being victims of dominant ideologies. I'm sure there are film scholars in this thread who can shed light more about this than me, but that's what I see as recurring in his films and I think its not transformative enough.
Tikoy Aguiliz - is best when he constructs urban dramas about deception and crimes of the heart. If given the right material, Tikoy can astound as much as he can bring you to unexpected places. I like his revisionist Flor Contemplacion film better than the one with Nora Aunor (even if I only have the highest respect to the superstar).
On the strength of Babae sa Bubungang Lata and Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos, I, too salute Mario O'Hara. I haven't seen Babae sa Breakwater yet but I might get a VCD of it when I go back to Manila.
I also see great promise in Jeff Jeturian and this director who did Magnifico and Radyo. Pardon my sacrilege but I didn't quite "get" Utang ni Tatang much as I would like to. Was this Raymond Red's? I met him three or four years ago in CineManila and he was kind enough to give me his card when I told him I am a fan of Anino and his other short film prior to this (the title of which escapes me but which I prefer over Anino). But the creativity to break new grounds is there.
And that's it actually. Obviously I have not seen much Filipino films. I only watch those which are recommended and those I find intriguing in premise.
I would like to watch the films of Celso Ad Castillo, Elwood Perez, Quark Henares and this young director whose name I forgot but which I was meaning to ask for more info from people here in the List.
Lastly, after gorging myself to a lot of film theory readings in grad school this semester, I realized one thing and I am serious here: seems that those with a singular vision as directors and with the capacity to treat camera and subject by their own terms are those who started out as film critics, like Godard and Truffaut. It would be interesting what critics like Roland Tolentino and Noel Vera can do when given the chance to meg their own films.
Alam ko si Yam Laranas ang direktor ng Radyo. At si Maryo J. Delos Reyes ang Magnifico.
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Old: Peque Gallaga
New: Yam Laranas and Quark Henares
Ako din Yam at Qurak ang favotite direktor ko sa mga bago.
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Old: Peque Gallaga
New: Yam Laranas and Quark Henares
Yam at Quark pala sorry. I misspelled your name Direk.
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My favorite 5 Filipino Directors are:
1. Ishmael Bernal: The way he Directed the film Himala. Ang galing talaga. He make Nora Aunor a well respected actress in this film.
2. Lino Brocka: A one hell of a Director makes a lot of good drama films like: Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag,Tinimbang ka ngunit Kulang,Orapronobis,Bona
3. Mike de Leon: Different concepts kaya nya like: Kakabakaba ka ba? a comedy film, Karnal, Bayaning Third World and Batch 81 a only film about fraternity.
4. Peque Gallaga: Well rounded Director he can do fantasy films for kids, drama and horror. films such as
Scorpio Nights, Shake Rattle and Roll, . And Oro Plata Mata great Cinematography.
5. Maryo J. Delos Reyes: Also like Gallaga, Kahit anong concept kaya nya iderek. Who started sa sub pop culture film here in the Philippines. Movie Bagets until now wala pa din makatalo na any youth oriented film. He also Direks Tagos ng Dugo for me is the best pinoy film in terms of serial killers.
DIRECTOR MUST BE WELL ROUNDED KAHIT ANONG CONCEPT AND GENRE KAYA NIYA.FOR ME A GOOD HE OR SHE KAYA PALABASIN O GAWIN NYANG MAGALING NA AKTOR O AKTRESS ANG ISANG ARTISTA. KAYA NIYA GAWIN ANG IMPOSIBLE SA POSIBLE.
FUTURE GREATS:
1. YAM LARANAS: Great Cinematography
2. QUARK HENAREZ: Great Story and who invented some crazy shots in the film. Pag napanood mo alam mong Quark. Always using a handycam shots.
But im looking forward to these future greats to make a comedy and horror. Dito makikilala talaga kayong magaling director.
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
I think you're an alien...tsk...tsk...tsk...
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My favorite 5 Filipino Directors are:
1. Ishmael Bernal: The way he Directed the film Himala. Ang galing talaga. He make Nora Aunor a well respected actress in this film.
2. Lino Brocka: A one hell of a Director makes a lot of good drama films like: Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag,Tinimbang ka ngunit Kulang,Orapronobis,Bona
3. Mike de Leon: Different concepts kaya nya like: Kakabakaba ka ba? a comedy film, Karnal, Bayaning Third World and Batch 81 a only film about fraternity.
4. Peque Gallaga: Well rounded Director he can do fantasy films for kids, drama and horror. films such as
Scorpio Nights, Shake Rattle and Roll, . And Oro Plata Mata great Cinematography.
5. Maryo J. Delos Reyes: Also like Gallaga, Kahit anong concept kaya nya iderek. Who started sa sub pop culture film here in the Philippines. Movie Bagets until now wala pa din makatalo na any youth oriented film. He also Direks Tagos ng Dugo for me is the best pinoy film in terms of serial killers.
DIRECTOR MUST BE WELL ROUNDED KAHIT ANONG CONCEPT AND GENRE KAYA NIYA.FOR ME A GOOD HE OR SHE KAYA PALABASIN O GAWIN NYANG MAGALING NA AKTOR O AKTRESS ANG ISANG ARTISTA. KAYA NIYA GAWIN ANG IMPOSIBLE SA POSIBLE.
FUTURE GREATS:
1. YAM LARANAS: Great Cinematography
2. QUARK HENAREZ: Great Story and who invented some crazy shots in the film. Pag napanood mo alam mong Quark. Always using a handycam shots.
But im looking forward to these future greats to make a comedy and horror. Dito makikilala talaga kayong magaling director.
Other future greats nga pala din sina:
1. Raymond Red: For the short film ANINO. I wish he can make a full length film again.
2. Mark Meily: From the movie CRYING LADIES Sharon Cuneta is different from this film. A comedy film na hindi sinasadyang magpatawa ng mga artista. Patawa in the sense without knowing it. I wish he can do more movies.
A GOOD DIRECTOR ALSO CAN MAKE HIS OR HER OWN STORY. LIKE OUR GREAT DIRECTORS. ANG NAKIKITA KO PALANG SA GANITO SO FAR AY SI LAURICE GUILLEN FORM THE MOVIE TANGING YAMAN AND AMERICAN ADOBO. QUARK HINAREZ IN THE MOVIE KEKA. A GOOD DIRECTOR MUST KNOW HOW TO GIVE "RESPECT" OF THEMSELVES IN TERMS OF CREDIBILITY. ALAM NIYA DAPAT KUNG ANO ANG GUSTO NIYA. DAPAT SIYANG MATUTO NA IPAGLABAN YUNG PELIKULA NIYA. PAG ALAM NIYANG MALI DAPAT NIYA ITONG BAGUHIN. AND ALWAYS CONSULT YOUR SCRIPT WRITERS. LIKE CHITO ROÑO IN THE FILM DEKADA 70 AND BATA BATA PAANO KA GINAWA. IS BASED FROM LUALHATI BAUTISTA. GANITO DIN ANG GINAGAWA NI LINO BROCKA BASED FROM THE BOOK OF RICKY LEE'S TRIP TO QUIAPO.
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I think you're an alien...tsk...tsk...tsk...
Sh...he must be some expert...we must respect his highly informed opinion... ;D
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Sh...he must be some expert...we must respect his highly informed opinion... ;D
Maybe genius than you...NOEL. ;D
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Maybe genius than you...NOEL. ;D
I quake...I tremble...in fear! ;D
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Is it Mark Meily who megged Crying Ladies? The film won most of the awards from the last Metro Manila Film Fest.
There are movies right now is some kinda fast pace and some fast crazy shoots ala MTV, I think it depends on the plot or concept of the film. for example Gamitan and Keka by Quark, It is suited in these films to have some kind of shoots. Mark Meily has an excellent job on Crying Ladies.
Quark Henares and Mark Meily will be future greats.
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I don't think it depends on the plot, but to how the director interprets the script. He/she could incorporate an erratic shot to a somewhat unnecessary scene, or vis-a-vis. The director always has the last say in filmmaking, I believe (though, he has to consult his writers once-in-a-while).
I could concur to your opinion about Quark. However then, maybe he should try to traverse the traditional style of filmmaking and we'll see (no offense, bro Quark). ;D
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* Mike de Leon ... I think he also did Karnal, but I thought that movie was a little shaky.
Diba si M. Abaya sa Karnal?
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However then, maybe he should try to traverse the traditional style of filmmaking and we'll see
Mario O'Hara, Mike de Leon and Lav Diaz already do this.
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Any other "old school" directors besides Gerry de Leon?
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Jeffrey Jeturian's next project is for Angora Films. It's a horror-drama. Working title is Pagkagat ng Dilim. A musical is also under negotiation with Filipino and Hong-kong producers. Both were written by Armando Lao. According to Ricky Villabona, the kick-ass tv ad director of Rexona, the script of Pagkagat is really good. But my eyes are fixed on the musical. I think it will be Jeff's homage to 70's and 80's music and to quote Bing Lao,'pwede na akong mamatay pag naisapelikula ito.'
Jeff will also do another film for Seiko with Chris Martinez' script. Tempo title is Bikini Open. I've seen the script outline and it is very interesting. I like the structure used by Martinez in developing the story. He is the scriptwriter to watch after Michiko Yamamoto.
With Jeff, Mario and other directors getting to do the projects they want, let's hope that this year will start another golden age for Pinoy cinema.
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my top five filipino directors are as follows:
Ishmael Bernal
Mike de Leon
Mario O'Hara
Lino Brocka
Maryo J. de los Reyes
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Based on their body of works, my top five directors and favorite film from each are:
1) ISHMAEL BERNAL : "City After Dark"
2) LINO BROCKA : "Insiang"
3) MIKE DE LEON : "Itim"
4) MARIO O' HARA : "Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos"
5) JEFFREY JETURIAN : "Tuhog"
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from Udine...
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Any other "old school" directors besides Gerry de Leon?
Quite a few. Manuel Silos, whose Biyaya ng Lupa is Renoirlike in its understated poetry, Manuel Conde whose Genghis Khan is perhaps the best film I've seen on the man, Lamberto Avellana who is even Gerry de Leon's superior when it comes to naturalistic dialogue. We've got more than a dozen, many of them quite good, and in the case of de Leon, Silos, Conde, Avellana (and a handful of '70s directors and maybe one from the '90s) perhaps as great as any in the world.
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My Top 5
1.Mike
2.Lino
3.Ish
4.Peque
5.Gerry
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Quite a few. Manuel Silos, whose Biyaya ng Lupa is Renoirlike in its understated poetry, Manuel Conde whose Genghis Khan is perhaps the best film I've seen on the man, Lamberto Avellana who is even Gerry de Leon's superior when it comes to naturalistic dialogue. We've got more than a dozen, many of them quite good, and in the case of de Leon, Silos, Conde, Avellana (and a handful of '70s directors and maybe one from the '90s) perhaps as great as any in the world.
Have you seen any Filipino Silent Films, Noel?
Are there any good Filipino silent films left?
What about the first Filipino sound feature "Ang Aswang", deos the print still exist?
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No,
no,
no as far as I know, but I'd love to see it if it does.
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Hi, Noel!
I've read somewhere that the audience at Cannes had a standing ovation for BABAE SA BREAKWATER. Sabi daw ni Laurice Guillen who attended the screening, pinalakpakan daw talaga ang obra ni Mario O'Hara. Do you know anybody who can confirm this? If so, this augurs well for Mario and for the independent producer. Hopefully, this will spur the film's producer to greenlight Mario's other scripts. Sana, sana...
Myke
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Check out the Cannes thread. There's mention of the ovation in Nestor Torre's article, I think.
Ligaya del Fierro, a filmmaker living in France saw the screening. Yes, there was an ovation.
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The late Lino Brocka
Raymond Red for Bayani and Sakay
Marilou Diaz Abaya for Rizal and Muro Ami
Laurice Guillen
Peque Gallaga
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he's really in love with pinoy films.
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dear Tikoy, Laurice Guillen, Mara and Jose F. Lacaba, Mike de Leon, Doy del
Mundo,
it was a real pleasure to meet with Laurice and Doy in Singapore.
Almost upon my arrival in Paris, Olivier Père in charge today of the
Director's fortnight with a a young team invited me for a screening of the
new film of Mario O' Hara which he had just invited.
It is probably very personal but looking at the film was like living again
all the happenings of the late seventies and the early eighties as well the
makings of the films in the streets and the slums, the evenings of PETA at
Fort Santiago, the screenings at LVN, the giant political rallyes, the
vaudeville disputes with the censorship, the film of Mario reflects and
chronicles all of that and more - and certainly the music track is
nostalgic.
I also remembered all the technical difficulties which we had to overcome,
printing, subtitling and this is also why I am writing this e-mail fax - in
whatever capacity you can, please contribute to make this comeback at Cannes
in the section, where "Insiang" and Mike's films came, as successful as
possible - and it will be a celebration of Lino and Hammy who would have
rejoiced the event, a celebration of CineManila as well as of "Maynila".
The young gentlemen of the Quinzaine did not know that Tikoy named his
Festival from the company which produced "Tinimbang", maybe Doy could write
a note about it, Pete about the political turmoils, Mike about the role of
LVN, Laurice as an early collaborator of Mario, Tikoy as a young spectator.
Maybe all of you together will convince Mario, who I believe is afraid to
fly, to make an exception.
In France, we are still a few to remember those great moments, we shall all
be happy to welcome him, hoping that the Filipino film industry will start
again, look at what has happened in the recent years in Korea and Thailand.
There are signals in Sri Lanka, where Lester James Peries at 82 made a great
classical film, and Malaysia of something new, nothing would make more happy
Francisco Baltazar, Jose Rizal, Gerardo de Leon, Lino, Ishmael and Hammy if
the same happens within the Philippine Islands.
-Pierre Rissent
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Oh! Ernst Stavro Blofeld--sorry, Pierre Rissent--speaks! ;D
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
Haha. I'm with you on this greatbop. ;D ;D
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Haha. I'm with you on this greatbop. ;D ;D
...jesus christ, another one...
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Another one what? You think it's just greatbop and I who feel that way? You think we're the exceptions? I haven't been watching any Filipino movies lately for a good reason or so I thought. Was I out of the loop for too long? Have we produced our own M. Night Shayamalan, Ang Lee, or even a Gurinder Chadha in the meantime? Where are the movies?
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...jesus christ, another one...
St. Peter, St. John...another genius than you...Noel. ;D
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Another one what? You think it's just greatbop and I who feel that way? You think we're the exceptions? I haven't been watching any Filipino movies lately for a good reason or so I thought. Was I out of the loop for too long? Have we produced our own M. Night Shayamalan, Ang Lee, or even a Gurinder Chadha in the meantime? Where are the movies?
Hey, I just feel it's careless (to put it politely) to lump an entire country's cinema and filmmakers into one category (sucks).
M Night Shayamalan? Ang Lee? Chadha? Against Lav Diaz, Mike de Leon, Lino Brocka, Mario O'Hara, Celso Ad. Castillo, Gerry de Leon? I'd like to hear the argument.
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Hey, I just feel it's careless (to put it politely) to lump an entire country's cinema and filmmakers into one category (sucks).
Point taken. It's just that the sweep and crassness of greatbop's remark perfectly captured the indifference and disappointment over local movies I've developed thru the years as a more-than-casual movie watcher. Sadly film has proved to be just another arena where Filipinos have underachieved. Without exception, the supposedly better local movies I've come across I can only describe with any combination of the follwing: unoriginal, unrealistic, ostentatious, uninspiring, and technically crude. I'd be as proud as you the day Filipino film makers achieve international acclaim and recognition, never mind commercial success. Do you honestly believe we have broken thru the world stage even once? I ask cause you're asking me to compare our directors to ones who have. And lest you think so, that isn't even my gauge for judging a movie.
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It's just that the sweep and crassness of greatbop's remark
The sweep and crassness of bop's remark doesn't even begin to convey the idiocy of what he's saying. If he's seen the relevant Filipino films, then maybe we can take his remark seriously.
You HAVE to be careful saying things like that. Or be prepared to back up your statement. Because you'll be questioned for it, that's for sure. It's not being 'onion skinned,' it's calling on a comment that was probably posted without thinking and probably without much knowledge of the subject being disparaged.
So, have you seen Pila Balde, Segurista, Pangarap ng Puso, Bubungang Lata, Batang West Side, Kriminal ng Baryo Concepcion, Bayaning Third World, Rizal sa Dapitan, Lihim ni Madonna, Eskapo, Bubungang Lata, Sisa, La Vida Rosa? Has he?
If so, let's talk further.
We've always been world class; not all of us (maybe a fraction of a percent) and certainly the world doesn't know it. It's a matter of marketing.
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It's just sad that some people always look down regarding our own Filipino films. Yes its true only a fraction you could say hit the world market...but there are many things to look into, politics is one, censorship and what Noel said the idiocy of some people.
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henares' keka just plain sucked. his shadow shouldnt even be mentioned in the topic
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Film critics like Max Tessier and Pierre Rissient of France, Tony Rayns of England, and programmers like Philip Cheah of Singapore and Jacob Wong of Hong Kong have more of a clue about what's going on in Philippine cinema than some of the people on this thread.
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Maryo J. Delos Reyes did it again w/ Naglalayag and Magnifico.... a grand slam award winning work. proves to be one of the greatest filipino director of our time.
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Maryo J. Delos Reyes did it again w/ Naglalayag and Magnifico.... a grand slam award winning work. proves to be one of the greatest filipino director of our time.
Ah. Uh...ahem. ::)
You have seen the films of, oh, Mike de Leon, Celso Ad. Castillo, Ishmael Bernal, Lino Brocka, Mario O'Hara, Gerardo de Leon?
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NONE. they all suck. they're all unimaginitive.
i concur. ;)
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i concur. ;)
Another yahoo. ::)
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Oh my...I want to be at peace na with myself.... ;D
But with regards to Maryo J...the man finally hit it with MAGNIFICO his best film bar none.
He is one of the best in the league of Peque, Mario O'Hara and his other contemporaries.
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Another yahoo. ::)
exactly! :D
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YAHOOS
From Gulliver's Travels:
Here we entered, and I saw three of those detestable creatures whom I first met after my landing feeding upon roots and the flesh of some animals which I afterwards found to be that of asses and dogs, and now and then a cow dead by accident or disease. They were all tied by the neck with strong withes fastened to a beam; they held their food between the claws of their forefeet, and tore it with their teeth.
My horror and astonishment are not to be described when I observed in this abominable animal a perfect human figure; the face of it, indeed, was flat and broad, the nose depressed, the lips large, and the mouth wide. But these differences are common to all savage nations, where the lineaments of the countenances are distorted by the natives suffering their infants to lie grovelling on the earth, or by carrying them on their backs, nestling with their face against the mother's shoulders. The forefeet of the Yahoo differed from my hands in nothing else but the length of the nails, the coarseness and brownness of the palms, and the hairiness on the backs. There was the same resemblances between our feet, with the same differences, which I knew very well, though the horses did not, because of my shoes and stockings; the same in every part of our bodies, except as to hairiness and colour which I have already described.
I did indeed observe that the Yahoos were the only animals in this country subject to any diseases, which, however, were much fewer than horses have among us, and contracted not by any ill-treatment they meet with, but by the nastiness and greediness of that sordid brute...the cure prescribed is a mixture of their own dung and urine forcibly put down the Yahoo's throat.
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Ah. Uh...ahem. ::)
You have seen the films of, oh, Mike de Leon, Celso Ad. Castillo, Ishmael Bernal, Lino Brocka, Mario O'Hara, Gerardo de Leon?
Yes!!!! Noel Ive seen the films of the directors you mentioned. Ive got a copy of the films from Lino Brocka, Mike de Leon, Celso Ad. Castillo. classic still the best for me. But i gave credit on one of my favorite film director Maryo j. delos Reyes. Do you think i dont like filipino directors?!!! Hey i made this topic. :)
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classic still the best for me.
Good to hear that from you, then.
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I thought BILANGGONG BIRHEN was megged by Romy Suzara?
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I thought BILANGGONG BIRHEN was megged by Romy Suzara?
it was finished by Romy Suzara (mostly post production work, i think) but Mario o'Hara filmed the entire movie...
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Was Mario fired out by the producer?
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Was Mario fired out by the producer?
i guess he had a huge argument with Armida... i heard that O'Hara walked out of the project, but Noel probably knows the whole story behind it.
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Armida was giving Mario a hard time; she I think fired him, and wanted him to come to her and apologize. He simply walked out.
He disowns the film, but it's easily the best, subtlest, most beautiful film Armida's ever produced, and she's magnificent and beautiful in it (and I know why ;D). I much prefer it over Oro Plata Mata.
Incidentally, eman, it wasn't Bernal who discovered Nora can act--he was a latecomer too. Gerry de Leon arguably was the first (along with, uh, Avellana, in Fe Esperanza Caridad), but she was really noticed in O'Hara's Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos.
(I'm pretty sure of that, but if Jojo has a different opinion, I'll defer to him)
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it's really difficult to credit which director was responsible in discovering Nora's acting abilities. in my opinion she showed great promise in Danny Holmsen's Maalaala Mo Kaya? (1973) and Carmela (1973) followed by George Rowe's Paru-Parong Itim (1973). although her acting has been honed to perfection in her weekly drama series Ang Makulay Na Daigdig Ni Nora by no less than Lupita Concio (now Kashiwahara), Ishmael Bernal and Maryo J. de los Reyes then went into full blast in 1974's Fe, Esperanza, Caridad where she was handled by two of the greatest Filipino filmmakers Lamberto Avellana & Gerry de Leon. but as Noel said Nora gained critical acclaim and respect from the industry with Mario O'Hara's Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos (1976). she actually attended acting workshops initiated by Maryo J. & Lupita for the young actors who'll be starring in Alkitrang Dugo which Nora herself produced.
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So eman was right after all--Nora was handled by Bernal early on, but on TV...
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i guess so... but it's not only Bernal there's also Maryo J. & Lupita
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1. If you can only choose one movie of hers, Jojo, which would be her best work?
2. Where was she funniest in?
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1. If you can only choose one movie of hers, Jojo, which would be her best work?
2. Where was she funniest in?
who Nora? i still think she delivered her best dramatic performance in Gil Portes' 'Merika while her comedic turn in Elwood Perez' Lollipops & Roses at Burong Talangka was just rib tickling. she was the epitome of the babaeng bakla years before Maricel Soriano made a carrer out of playing the same role.
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LOL -- Sobrang lalim na sa subconscious ko yang Burong Talangka, but you're right. That was around the time when a new brand of comedy was bursting out of our screens. Meron pang isa, "Inspiration" or "Remembrance" I can't remember, it was one of Ishma's early movies. The one with "Lieberman, Leiberman ET Lieberman!!!" -- featuring a reed thin character actress who was funny as hell, stole the movie right out of the Vilma Santos-Edgar Mortiz loveteam. The new comedy of Elwood, et al., was situational, much like the Pugo-Bentot-Eddie San Jose or Nida-Nestor movies of the early 60's, but the flavor was camp. They winked at pop culture even as they changed it.
Hindi ko napanood ang 'Merika; akala ko pipillin mo ang Himala.
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you should watch 'Merika then... it's my most favorite of all her performances. Himala is up there and whether i agree with it or not, Nora Aunor will always be remembered for her role as Elsa. i remember asking her one time, what her favorite films were and she mentioned Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos, Himala, Bona, Bakit Bughaw Ang Langit? & 'Merika.
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1. Carlitos Siguion-Reyna - his movies like, "Ikaw Pa Lang Ang Minahal" and "Inagaw Mo Ang Lahat Sa Akin".
2. Ishmael Bernal - in "Hinugot Sa Langit" and "Pagdating Sa Dulo"
3. Maryo J. Delos Reyes - in "Magnifico" and "Saan Darating Ang Umaga"
--- These are my TOP "3" for now..
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you should watch 'Merika then... it's my most favorite of all her performances.
I was able to order 'Merika on VCD. Thanks for the tip.
Also got Ikaw ay Akin and Pangarap ng Puso on VCD, and Naglalayag and Hesus Rebolusyonaryo on DVD.