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Title: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 22, 2015 at 01:25 AM: Anyone got one? Just placed my order and is expected to be shipped July... Seems to getting a lot of praises lately from any kind of dac it connects to.
Here are the dacs they own with the Regen: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/uptone-regen-and-your-digital-analogue-converter-what-digital-analogue-converter-do-you-use-24410/
And here is their listening impressions: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/uptone-audio-regen-listening-impressions-24078/
Their website: http://uptoneaudio.com/products/usb-regen
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on May 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM: Let's compare with the iFi iUSB when your unit arrives. It seams that this has the same function with the iUSB...... own clean power and re-clocking the digital signal.

Quote from: timber715 on May 22, 2015 at 01:25 AM
Anyone got one? Just placed my order and is expected to be shipped July... Seems to getting a lot of praises lately from any kind of dac it connects to.
Here are the dacs they own with the Regen: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/uptone-regen-and-your-digital-analogue-converter-what-digital-analogue-converter-do-you-use-24410/
And here is their listening impressions: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/uptone-audio-regen-listening-impressions-24078/
Their website: http://uptoneaudio.com/products/usb-regen
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 23, 2015 at 03:07 AM: Quote from: JoeyGS on May 22, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Let's compare with the iFi iUSB when your unit arrives. It seams that this has the same function with the iUSB...... own clean power and re-clocking the digital signal.

Technically similar but very different in reality...
From the creator of the Regen:
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What I have been finding in looking at DACs etc with USB inputs is that there is what I am calling "packet noise". This is bursts of noise caused by the USB receiver processing the packets of data. This noise shows up on both power and ground planes. Since the rate of packets is 8KHz there are strong components of this noise in the audio band. This noise can cause jitter in clock oscillators, reclocking flops, and DAC chips. It can also go directly into noise on the output of DAC chips.

The question everybody asks then is: well what about the DACs that have full isolation between the USB system and reclocking on the DAC side? Unfortunately this noise likes to make it through even this. Exactly how this works is complicated, I have written about this in the AudioStream articles. And bits and pieces in other posts recently. The upshot is that neither galvanic isolation nor reclocking completely get rid of it. They help attenuate it some, but don't get rid of it.

This packet noise consists of two parts: noise from the USB protocol engine and from the USB PHY. The protocol engine noise does not depend on the input signal quality, just the data, so its impact is always going to be the same no matter what is done with the input. The PHY is the part that actually connects to the electrical signals on the bus, ITS contribution to packet noise IS dependent on the quality of the input signal. This is the part the REGEN targets.

A high-speed USB signal runs at 480 mega bits per second, which is fairly high. Different cables and connectors can significantly degrade the "Signal Integrity" (SI). SI consists of the rise/fall times of the signal, noise on the signal and jitter of the edges. Increases in any or all of these can decrease the SI. The decrease in SI can be so large that it becomes difficult for the PHY to determine the actual bits. Thus the PHY contains several methods used to pre-process the analog signals in order to make it easier to determine the bits. Modern high speed serial interfaces work at all because of these techniques that have been developed over the years.

When the SI is very good, the PHY can turn off the pre-processing steps and easily determine the bits. As the SI degrades the PHY turns on different parts of the pre-processing as needed. Each of these steps takes a fair amount of power to operate, thus creating noise on the power and ground planes. The more processing the PHY needs to use to determine the bits, the more noise is generated. Thus part of the packet noise is directly related to the signal integrity of the incoming signal. The higher the SI, the lower the noise.

It is very important here to realize this is noise that is GENERATED inside the DAC by its own operation, it is NOT noise on the USB bus that is somehow getting into the DAC as is commonly thought.

The REGEN uses a common USB hub chip to create a new USB stream. I'm calling this a regeneration not just a reclocking. Because it uses clean power and a low jitter clock the output of the HUB has low noise and low jitter. By making sure the impedances are good and the REGEN is as close as possible to the DAC the rise/fall times have very small degradation.

The result is that the PHY in the DAC doesn't have to use any of its pre-processing arsenal so the packet noise is as low as it is going to get. Note: it does not get rid of the packet noise altogether, it is just as low as it can be.

The hub chip inside the REGEN has its own PHYs, which themselves generate packet noise on ITS power and ground planes. I have worked hard to minimize this noise, but it is still there. The result is that the REGEN itself is also sensitive to the SI of the signal fed to it, which is why USB cables on its input still make a difference.

I hope that is all clear. It is about as short as I can make it.

John S.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on May 26, 2015 at 11:24 AM: Nice share Sonny! This worth the money!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 26, 2015 at 04:00 PM: Quote from: JoeyGS on May 26, 2015 at 11:24 AM
Nice share Sonny! This worth the money!
I do think it is brad. With all the reviews and so far no as in none had anything bad to say about it.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JojoD818 on May 26, 2015 at 05:03 PM: Not to play the devil's advocate but what the creator did not mention is that packet noise occurs at about the frequency of the DAC's internal clock. Packet noise is mainly eliminated by parity checks where the leading bit of the data packet is resent back to the tx to confirm the rx has received it.

The Regen is what we call in digital electronics as a filtered packet repeater. Mostly used in digital video transmissions as a buffer and signal repeater. It's use affects the monotonicity and the maximum sampling rate of the overall digital stream which is why it is usually spec'd way above the transfer speed of the downstream. This is probably the main reason why we do not see it popularly used in audio use.

Brader, since you have already ordered, please do keep us updated as to how it performs.

Cheers
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: pchin on May 26, 2015 at 08:20 PM: Cool find Sonny! Will wait for your review :)
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 26, 2015 at 10:08 PM: I don't really think you would need my findings as the thread I posted has so many good things about it, but when it arrives I will give my opinion. Maybe bring it around for friends to try in their system.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 26, 2015 at 10:17 PM: Brader Jo, even if it is a simple light bulb in a box if it can improve the sonics I would love to give it a try. The guys at computeraudiophile both techies and noobies alike seem to approve that several distributors that will exhibit in newport show has expressed their willingness to have this in their system in the show. Unfortunately not enough hotcakes at the moment as they are sold before they can be completed.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JojoD818 on May 27, 2015 at 08:58 AM: Quote from: timber715 on May 26, 2015 at 10:17 PM
Brader Jo, even if it is a simple light bulb in a box if it can improve the sonics I would love to give it a try. The guys at computeraudiophile both techies and noobies alike seem to approve that several distributors that will exhibit in newport show has expressed their willingness to have this in their system in the show. Unfortunately not enough hotcakes at the moment as they are sold before they can be completed.

My thoughts exactly brader... more often than not, knowledge is surpassed by experience... that's why I can't wait to hear it in your system (or in mine). Kailan ba ang dating? Para makapag sched na tayo ng session diyan.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: pchin on May 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM: Quote from: timber715 on May 26, 2015 at 10:08 PM
Maybe bring it around for friends to try in their system.

Bro, hope we can get a chance to try out your new gem in one of our future events. :)
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM: Quote from: JojoD818 on May 27, 2015 at 08:58 AM

My thoughts exactly brader... more often than not, knowledge is surpassed by experience... that's why I can't wait to hear it in your system (or in mine). Kailan ba ang dating? Para makapag sched na tayo ng session diyan.
The item should ship around mid July to my sis-in-law. She then comes home August pa... Huhuhu
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JojoD818 on May 27, 2015 at 07:52 PM: Quote from: timber715 on May 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM
The item should ship around mid July to my sis-in-law. She then comes home August pa... Huhuhu

Ang tagal naman brader! Pero alam ko mahaba patience level mo eh. Pila na ako sa hihiram ha, kahit low on the list para burn-in na hehehe...

Anyway, in between now and then baka gusto mag sched nila Cal, JoeyGS, et al ng meeting regarding yang chow and garlic spare ribs. ;D Sorry for the OT.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 27, 2015 at 08:56 PM: Quote from: JojoD818 on May 27, 2015 at 07:52 PM

Ang tagal naman brader! Pero alam ko mahaba patience level mo eh. Pila na ako sa hihiram ha, kahit low on the list para burn-in na hehehe...

Anyway, in between now and then baka gusto mag sched nila Cal, JoeyGS, et al ng meeting regarding yang chow and garlic spare ribs. ;D Sorry for the OT.
Hehehe, sorry to say brader but papahiram ko lang yan kung kasama ako ;D tapos sbay din kami uuwi.... Pero yung yang chow eh, madali lang. Pagdumating ang regen... Kainan na agad! O0 O0
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JojoD818 on May 28, 2015 at 08:14 AM: Hahaha sige wag na lang, mahirap maintenance pag kasama ka eh hahaha! ;D O0 ^-^
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on May 28, 2015 at 09:33 AM: Kainan and session ....... what a great combo! let's get it on!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on May 28, 2015 at 12:08 PM: Quote from: JojoD818 on May 28, 2015 at 08:14 AM
Hahaha sige wag na lang, mahirap maintenance pag kasama ka eh hahaha! ;D O0 ^-^

Madali lang ako. Coke lang at lechon kawali talo talo na....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM: Placed order of this "little tweak". To be use in series with my SOTM USB & Exasound DAC.

Waiting mode.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0660/6121/products/P1080636_large.JPG?v=1428531371)

http://uptoneaudio.com/products/usb-regen

Brader Sonny when ang delivery ng order mo? Baka end of July pa yung Amber Regen ko.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: pchin on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM: Selling like hot cakes! :o

All USB REGEN units for June delivery are now sold-out. Orders placed now will ship in early-July. This popular product has been selling VERY quickly. Please do place your order now to be assured of receiving a REGEN in July. Thank you for your patience. It's great, to REGENerate!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jun 19, 2015 at 05:50 AM: Quote from: jh@meeh on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM
Placed order of this "little tweak". To be use in series with my SOTM USB & Exasound DAC.

Waiting mode.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0660/6121/products/P1080636_large.JPG?v=1428531371)

http://uptoneaudio.com/products/usb-regen

Brader Sonny when ang delivery ng order mo? Baka end of July pa yung Amber Regen ko.
Delivery nung akin should be early July...... Kaya lang ipapasabay ko sa sister in law ko na uuwi sa September pa! Huhuhuhu

Quote from: pchin on Jun 17, 2015 at 12:55 PM
Selling like hot cakes! :o

All USB REGEN units for June delivery are now sold-out. Orders placed now will ship in early-July. This popular product has been selling VERY quickly. Please do place your order now to be assured of receiving a REGEN in July. Thank you for your patience. It's great, to REGENerate!
;D ;D O0
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Jun 19, 2015 at 08:13 AM: Nakakapangati naman to!!! bookmarked

parang gusto ko na agad itry....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:46 AM: Jhameeh, sana dalawa inorder mo...... Some members already tried using two in their system and getting blown away.
Jojo, designer and techies reporting 7.5v to be the sweet-spot for the regen. Would be nice if my laptop can have a good psu that could also power the regen.... Dead na rin kasi batteries ng laptop ko eh....... What do you suggest?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Jul 06, 2015 at 12:47 PM: Quote from: timber715 on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:46 AM
Jhameeh, sana dalawa inorder mo...... Some members already tried using two in their system and getting blown away.
Jojo, designer and techies reporting 7.5v to be the sweet-spot for the regen. Would be nice if my laptop can have a good psu that could also power the regen.... Dead na rin kasi batteries ng laptop ko eh....... What do you suggest?
so sir? Is there a huge improvement from 1 regen compared to two regen in series going to the DAC?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 06, 2015 at 01:53 PM: Quote from: shrek7 on Jul 06, 2015 at 12:47 PM
so sir? Is there a huge improvement from 1 regen compared to two regen in series going to the DAC?

Not my own experience since my regen hasn't arrived. Owners of the regen green (which is the first generation regen) who also ordered the Amber tried connecting the two together and are reporting very realistic sq...
Imho, in case two gives a tweak that isn't worth the money, selling one should be a breeze.... :)
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:16 PM: Brader sonny, meron na kong SOTM USB kaya isa na lang binili ko. Try kong gamitin yung LPSU ko for regen pag dumating.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:30 PM: July din ba arrival ng regen mo?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:58 PM: End of July pa daw.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 11, 2015 at 12:44 AM: Jhameeh....
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We wanted to let you know that your UpTone at Shopify order (#UA web #) has been shipped via USPS, USPS Priority Mail on 7/9/2015. You can track your package at any time using the link below.
Woohoooooo.....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: sientobente on Jul 11, 2015 at 12:50 AM: Congrats! I'm subscribing to this thread too.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 15, 2015 at 06:38 PM: My unit arrived at my SIL's place last Monday... woot!? Unforunately she arrives Sept. pa with it.... huhuhu
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Jul 17, 2015 at 10:24 PM: Malapit na yan .... isang lingon lang naandiyan na yan....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 17, 2015 at 11:40 PM: brader timber wala pa kong notification. waiting mode..kamot kamot lang. hahaha
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Jul 24, 2015 at 02:14 PM: "We wanted to let you know that your UpTone at Shopify order (#UA web #1611) has been shipped via USPS, USPS Priority Mail Intl on 7/23/2015. "

Parating na, yahoo!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Jul 25, 2015 at 01:54 AM: Quote from: jh@meeh on Jul 24, 2015 at 02:14 PM
"We wanted to let you know that your UpTone at Shopify order (#UA web #1611) has been shipped via USPS, USPS Priority Mail Intl on 7/23/2015. "

Parating na, yahoo!
Congrats Brad, sandali na lang at nandyan na yan. Paki balitaan mo na lang kami.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:28 AM: Quote from: jh@meeh on Jul 24, 2015 at 02:14 PM
"We wanted to let you know that your UpTone at Shopify order (#UA web #1611) has been shipped via USPS, USPS Priority Mail Intl on 7/23/2015. "

Parating na, yahoo!
Brad, ano balita?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Aug 06, 2015 at 10:56 AM: Excited na rin.......

Quote from: timber715 on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Brad, ano balita?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:36 PM: Got mine today..
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/7698C5BE-537B-4AD9-8B9F-B4CBEADCDCA7_zps1bwmgz0k.jpg)
Life is like a box of chocolates... Or kasing laki lang ng bix of chocolates.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/C0EA3A69-F1CB-439E-8181-34D6C69AA9D7_zpsbd3r5jkx.jpg)
The back
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/F8664B91-72F4-451C-870A-40FD5D021096_zpsokzszlvg.jpg)
And the front
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/B7951ECC-37F6-46F8-B202-666B0DCCD3E7_zpsjyyug2na.jpg)
And its size....
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/A6577C8B-9560-4948-9A89-BDC0224240D0_zpsnlx2wr1e.jpg)
I knew it was small, but I didn't think it was this small.... Lol.
I still have no time to try it, maybe when I get back...
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:51 PM: Quote from: timber715 on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Brad, ano balita?

Your REGEN arrived back to our offices today with a label from your local postal service saying "Incomplete Address." Yet the label has the address on it precisely as shown below in the shipment notification.

Please let us know how you wish to proceed. As mentioned, we can ship via FedEx or EMS for the prices quoted. Perhaps you wish to use a different address this time?

Best regards,
Alex Crespi

waaaaaahhhhhh! putek na post office ito!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:59 PM: Quote from: jh@meeh on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:51 PM
Your REGEN arrived back to our offices today with a label from your local postal service saying "Incomplete Address." Yet the label has the address on it precisely as shown below in the shipment notification.

Please let us know how you wish to proceed. As mentioned, we can ship via FedEx or EMS for the prices quoted. Perhaps you wish to use a different address this time?

Best regards,
Alex Crespi

waaaaaahhhhhh! putek na post office ito!
Dang....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 05, 2015 at 11:36 AM: Congrats! Eye candy!

Quote from: timber715 on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:36 PM
Got mine today..

I knew it was small, but I didn't think it was this small.... Lol.
I still have no time to try it, maybe when I get back...
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 05, 2015 at 12:32 PM: Quote from: JoeyGS on Sep 05, 2015 at 11:36 AM
Congrats! Eye candy!

More like ear candy, its so small you probably would not see it. Besides it mounts directly behind the dac.... Lol
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: Superman on Sep 05, 2015 at 01:12 PM: Quote from: timber715 on Sep 04, 2015 at 09:36 PM
Got mine today..
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/7698C5BE-537B-4AD9-8B9F-B4CBEADCDCA7_zps1bwmgz0k.jpg)
Life is like a box of chocolates... Or kasing laki lang ng bix of chocolates.
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/C0EA3A69-F1CB-439E-8181-34D6C69AA9D7_zpsbd3r5jkx.jpg)
The back
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/F8664B91-72F4-451C-870A-40FD5D021096_zpsokzszlvg.jpg)
And the front
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/B7951ECC-37F6-46F8-B202-666B0DCCD3E7_zpsjyyug2na.jpg)
And its size....
(http://i861.photobucket.com/albums/ab180/timber7153/A6577C8B-9560-4948-9A89-BDC0224240D0_zpsnlx2wr1e.jpg)
I knew it was small, but I didn't think it was this small.... Lol.
I still have no time to try it, maybe when I get back...

Congrats Sonny!

Took the plunge as well. Schedule for delivery in October via our relatives' address in NYC. Should get mine by Christmas :D
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 05, 2015 at 06:43 PM: Welcome to the club Jen... Mine is with Ferdie at the moment, it is getting broken in while I leave for Bohol...
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 09, 2015 at 10:42 PM: Finally plugged in my system.... Initial impression is that it gives more details (both high and low) but, making my system a tad bright... Will let it settle for several day and come back with a proper assessment.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:14 PM: Patiently waiting......
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:17 PM: Quote from: JoeyGS on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:14 PM
Patiently waiting......
Heheheh... After two hours brader, it is starting to grow on me... Nag umpisa na mag relax. It was plugged with Ferdie sa Cebu for a day, more or less.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 09, 2015 at 11:20 PM: That's good news. Worth the wait!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 11, 2015 at 02:57 AM: Certainly worth the wait. As I was going thru my playlists I kept enjoying them and wanting more. Went thru the albums in Jriver until I played "A day in life" from the St. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band album. Then I went back in time when I was too young to smoke weed but got high with music anyway... O0 I ended the day listening to the whole album. ^-^
Music has never been this good in my system...
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Sep 14, 2015 at 07:16 PM: At last....!

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/647/21221970229_16087c6d6c_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Sep 15, 2015 at 04:24 AM: Congrats brad, send feedback soonest....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Oct 19, 2015 at 08:27 PM: any updates regarding the effects on your set up sir Jh@meeh or any owner? is it as good as they say it is? I am quite excited about the real world results, specially any review here @ pdvd.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 01, 2015 at 10:45 AM: Can Uptone Regen Amber be used on any type of DAC? Havent seen someone on the regen thread using NOS dacs. Is there a specified DAC where it shouldnt be used?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: Superman on Nov 01, 2015 at 10:51 AM: It should work, bro...

Have you ordered one?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 01, 2015 at 10:59 AM: Yup! Its in Manila na, kaso busy pa yung friend ko to mail it, di kasi sya mahilig sa audio, kaya di nya alam kung gaano ako ka excited na makuha yung regen ko, sana mag work sya kahit old school yung DAC ko, di kasi asynchronuos yung sa akin, okay lang kaya yun?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Nov 01, 2015 at 11:42 PM: it should work fine Shrek as long as merong usb input ang dac pwede yan...
cheers
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 02, 2015 at 08:33 AM: sir Timber, thank you very much for the reply!!! ;D >:D ;D
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 09, 2015 at 08:40 PM: Finally!!! ;D >:D

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac202/shrek777/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsjteae1kb.jpeg)

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac202/shrek777/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsungqknct.jpeg)

(http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac202/shrek777/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpswgcewxw5.jpeg)
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Nov 10, 2015 at 02:55 AM: Nice, what is your initial impression?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 10, 2015 at 09:21 AM: Initial impression:

You will definitely hear that the sound is cleaner with the regen, it eliminates the dirty popping noise that I have with my laptop, bass is more defined, imaging is more realistic, the nuances of the instruments- Damn!!! It is worth the wait and I am just 5 hours into it. Will wait for improvements after a week or a month.

It highlights the capability of your DAC, if you have a detailed DAC, it will be much more detailed but more fluid with the REGEN, but as for me, I have a NOS dac which is not that detailed but is musical enough to satisfy me.

Haappyyy Me!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Nov 21, 2015 at 04:36 AM: A little update. Today I made a bracket to properly support the regen. I have always found good results since I installed it to my system, but a properly supported regen floored me. This must be the reason why it got so much rave reviews.
Music just got more engaging with a wider sound stage, it improved on almost all frequencies be high or low.
Highly suggested.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Nov 21, 2015 at 09:29 AM: Quote from: timber715 on Nov 21, 2015 at 04:36 AM
A little update. Today I made a bracket to properly support the regen. I have always found good results since I installed it to my system, but a properly supported regen floored me. This must be the reason why it got so much rave reviews.
Music just got more engaging with a wider sound stage, it improved on almost all frequencies be high or low.
Highly suggested.
picture naman dyan sir!!!
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Nov 21, 2015 at 02:01 PM: Is the support more of an isolation?

Quote from: timber715 on Nov 21, 2015 at 04:36 AM
A little update. Today I made a bracket to properly support the regen. I have always found good results since I installed it to my system, but a properly supported regen floored me. This must be the reason why it got so much rave reviews.
Music just got more engaging with a wider sound stage, it improved on almost all frequencies be high or low.
Highly suggested.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Nov 21, 2015 at 07:32 PM: Nothing fancy, just a piece of plywood. Made it about a millimeter higher than its unsupported height.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: dimfer on Nov 22, 2015 at 02:04 AM: Now it's time to upgrade to the $500 linear power supply for the Regen...LOL
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Nov 22, 2015 at 09:42 PM: Quote from: dimfer on Nov 22, 2015 at 02:04 AM
Now it's time to upgrade to the $500 linear power supply for the Regen...LOL
Hehehe, not much sense using a $500 power supply on a $175 gear... Hehehe
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Nov 23, 2015 at 01:46 PM: A good but not too expensive USB cable for your Uptone Regen: Curious Cable

http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/11/next-level-usb-audio-with-uptone-regen-curious-cables/
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: geriboy on Nov 24, 2015 at 08:21 AM: Meron kaya binibenta na usb connector na nakakabit between the computer/source and the regen? Ü
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: dimfer on Nov 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM: Quote from: timber715 on Nov 22, 2015 at 09:42 PM
Hehehe, not much sense using a $500 power supply on a $175 gear... Hehehe
Ang epekto daw parang $5k equipment upgrade, eh Di sulit na >:D
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Nov 24, 2015 at 02:18 PM: I think Curious Cable made a short cable for the Regen

Quote from: geriboy on Nov 24, 2015 at 08:21 AM
Meron kaya binibenta na usb connector na nakakabit between the computer/source and the regen? Ü
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Apr 06, 2016 at 01:27 AM: Today I removed my Regen in anticipation for an incoming RUR (w4s Recovery Usb Reclocker). I never felt any harshness in my system... until today :(
I guess it is something you never knew you have until you lose it... that is what the Regen did in my system and I hope the RUR can rival it and maybe surpass what the regen was able to do....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:09 AM: ^ hindi ba pwedeng pag sabayin? sana tinesting mo muna, bago mo pinakawalan?
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:47 AM: I know some actually daisy chains these with the rur or multiple regens. I had to make room for the RUR purchase brader for a reasonable excuse to the boss... :) you know.... Teka, maybe you don't since you need no approval. Heheheh. In that case, congrats. Hahahaha
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: jh@meeh on Apr 06, 2016 at 12:25 PM: Asus ikaw pa, chkn feed lang sayo yan...hahaha..
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:55 PM: With the Regen in the chain, are you still able to set the audio output using kernel streaming? I presume you are still using JRiver.

Quote from: timber715 on Apr 06, 2016 at 01:27 AM
Today I removed my Regen in anticipation for an incoming RUR (w4s Recovery Usb Reclocker). I never felt any harshness in my system... until today :(
I guess it is something you never knew you have until you lose it... that is what the Regen did in my system and I hope the RUR can rival it and maybe surpass what the regen was able to do....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Apr 06, 2016 at 10:43 PM: Quote from: JoeyGS on Apr 06, 2016 at 02:55 PM
With the Regen in the chain, are you still able to set the audio output using kernel streaming? I presume you are still using JRiver.

I never used kernel streaming brader, always set using ASIO....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Apr 07, 2016 at 02:42 PM: But do you have the option for kernel streaming with regen in the chain?

Quote from: timber715 on Apr 06, 2016 at 10:43 PM
I never used kernel streaming brader, always set using ASIO....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: timber715 on Apr 07, 2016 at 06:51 PM: Quote from: JoeyGS on Apr 07, 2016 at 02:42 PM
But do you have the option for kernel streaming with regen in the chain?

Don't really know since I never tried....
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: shrek7 on Apr 19, 2016 at 06:07 PM: sayang sir! sana eh na head to head comparison natin before you let go yung Regen. hoping to get a feedback with your RUR, mukhang maganda din sir eh.
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: disturbed on Apr 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM: I have a similar device iPurifier2 from iFi...I thought these usb gadgets were snake oil..I tried it and indeed I heard a difference especially on the low freq..maybe due to the lowering of noise floor or what..
Title: Re: Uptone Regen Amber
Post by: JoeyGS on Apr 20, 2016 at 11:03 PM: Same experience here in the iPurifier 2 especially when bundled with the micro iUSB

Quote from: disturbed on Apr 20, 2016 at 10:33 AM
I have a similar device iPurifier2 from iFi...I thought these usb gadgets were snake oil..I tried it and indeed I heard a difference especially on the low freq..maybe due to the lowering of noise floor or what..