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Title: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:09 AM
Hey audio gurus.

I need your advice on a simple audio set up I plan for our house.  Warning, I know little to nothing on audio so please bear with me.

I plan to have the setup in the living room, which is an open space shared with the dining room and kitchen, around 80 to 90sqm.  It will only play music (no home theater), and I need to connect a turntable, a CD player and it needs to have bluetooth capability.  I normally listen to rock, new wave and some easy listening (like 88.3 playlist on Sundays).

I was thinking of getting a used receiver from the marketplace forum here, stick it with some decent quality standing speakers (I believe two speakers are enough for music right?) and just buy a bluetooth adaptor to get the connectivity for my devices.  Does this work?  I don't really want to spend too much as budget is kind of limited so I'm more for getting a good mix of function and SQ at a really (I mean, really) affordable price. 

Any feedback? 

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:11 AM
Hey audio gurus.

I need your advice on a simple audio set up I plan for our house.  Warning, I know little to nothing on audio so please bear with me.

I plan to have the setup in the living room, which is an open space shared with the dining room and kitchen, around 80 to 90sqm.  It will only play music (no home theater), and I need to connect a turntable, a CD player and it needs to have bluetooth capability.  I normally listen to rock, new wave and some easy listening (like 88.3 playlist on Sundays).

I was thinking of getting a used receiver from the marketplace forum here, stick it with some decent quality standing speakers (I believe two speakers are enough for music right?) and just buy a bluetooth adaptor to get the connectivity for my devices.  Does this work?  I don't really want to spend too much as budget is kind of limited so I'm more for getting a good mix of function and SQ at a really (I mean, really) affordable price. 

Any feedback? 



How much is your maximum budget so we can have suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:13 AM
How much is your maximum budget so we can have suggestions?

Not sure if it's enough, but for the receiver and the speakers, I can't go over 15K.  I don't mind used ones from Japan so long as they do the job.

Oh, and one more thing... I need the receiver to have a remote control, if possible
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:22 AM
Not sure if it's enough, but for the receiver and the speakers, I can't go over 15K.  I don't mind used ones from Japan so long as they do the job.

Oh, and one more thing... I need the receiver to have a remote control, if possible

For speakers.. Baka umabot ka pa dito.. 8k. May 7k ka pa to get a 2nd hand stereo receiver. Dami din sa MP

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,203710.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:25 AM
For speakers.. Baka umabot ka pa dito.. 8k. May 7k ka pa to get a 2nd hand stereo receiver. Dami din sa MP

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,203710.0.html

Thanks bro.  But does the setup I have in mind at least correct for what I want it to do? Receiver and two freestanding speakers?

What brand do you recommend within that budget?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:39 AM
Thanks bro.  But does the setup I have in mind at least correct for what I want it to do? Receiver and two freestanding speakers?

What brand do you recommend within that budget?

Well basically yes.. Get speakers and receiver/integrated amp. Use bluetooth or mobile device as source. Maganda yung speakers na nasa link. Hanap ka lanng ng 2nd hand Integrated amp or receiver kung mag HT ka in future.. Yamaha/Onkyo/Marantz/NAD/Denon. Full HT receiver or Stereo receiver. Abang ka sa MP ng mga 2nd hand worth 7k.

Pero bilisan mo sa Speakers sa link kasi mabilis mabili dito yang mga yan..
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:41 AM
Well basically yes.. Get speakers and receiver/integrated amp. Use bluetooth or mobile device as source. Maganda yung speakers na nasa link. Hanap ka lanng ng 2nd hand Integrated amp or receiver kung mag HT ka in future.. Yamaha/Onkyo/Marantz/NAD/Denon. Full HT receiver or Stereo receiver. Abang ka sa MP ng mga 2nd hand worth 7k.

Pero bilisan mo sa Speakers sa link kasi mabilis mabili dito yang mga yan..

Thanks bro, already texted the seller, sana available pa
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM
Receivers. Baka pwede mo pa matawagan

Onkyo 6k
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,205383.0.html

Pioneer 8k
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,204152.0.html

Marantz 8k
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,188492.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:47 AM
Eto pa, isang set na Speakers and receiver

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,205218.0.html
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:48 AM
Also before you buy, pakinggan mo muna. Schedule an audition sa seller. I bet they are all willing to demo it for you.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: kranoz on Feb 21, 2016 at 11:18 AM
I kinda have the same dilemma with you. (At least to what I want to achieve - I currently have class d amp and a speaker connected to a tablet using 3.5mm to rca cable).

Isusuggest ko sana sayo yung onkyo tx-8050 or tx-8160 kaso the price is very much bloated sa mga hifi shops dito saten as compared to the US price  :( . I think the tx-8160 di pa nga available. Sina-sale na lang tong 2 models na to sa US. There are also Yamaha and Harman Kardon counterparts.

I guess the suggestions above with the links would be the best path if you're not that much looking for a brand new gears.
Title: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 12:33 PM
Yes bro, really don' mind used gear

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: ti on Feb 21, 2016 at 01:04 PM
kung pang audio po sir .. personal suggestion ko mag integrated amp ka..

ako may onkyo avr even @ pure audio mode.. hindi ko gusto sounds.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 06:28 PM

kung pang audio po sir .. personal suggestion ko mag integrated amp ka..

ako may onkyo avr even @ pure audio mode.. hindi ko gusto sounds.

Newbie ako sir, can you expound? As far as I know, ang pinagkaiba ng integrated amp sa receiver is may amplifier na built in? If so, your suggestion makes sense kasi I'm really aiming for a simple setup so if integrated, mas ok. What's a good brand and budget?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: tony on Feb 21, 2016 at 06:35 PM
total budget is a must....1/3 of that on the speakers, 1/3 on the amplification, and 1/3 on the program source....
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: DTNS on Feb 21, 2016 at 06:39 PM
Not sure if it's enough, but for the receiver and the speakers, I can't go over 15K.  I don't mind used ones from Japan so long as they do the job.

Oh, and one more thing... I need the receiver to have a remote control, if possible

with your budget, I suggest this:

the Onkyo A-9010
http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!product-page/zgfzu/3087c80f-1dcb-8644-516a-1c7c3bae409a (http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!product-page/zgfzu/3087c80f-1dcb-8644-516a-1c7c3bae409a)

or the NAD C316BEE
http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-316BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier (http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-316BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier)

between the two, I'd go for the Onkyo since it already has a DAC and a phono input. you'll just need to get a bluetooth adapter separately.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 21, 2016 at 06:54 PM

with your budget, I suggest this:

the Onkyo A-9010
http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!product-page/zgfzu/3087c80f-1dcb-8644-516a-1c7c3bae409a (http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!product-page/zgfzu/3087c80f-1dcb-8644-516a-1c7c3bae409a)

or the NAD C316BEE
http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-316BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier (http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C-316BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier)

between the two, I'd go for the Onkyo since it already has a DAC and a phono input. you'll just need to get a bluetooth adapter separately.

Ok nga yung Onkyo, but I'll blow my 15k budget just on the amp
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: DTNS on Feb 21, 2016 at 07:10 PM
Ok nga yung Onkyo, but I'll blow my 15k budget just on the amp

you might want to look at powered speakers with input like the following:

Audioengine A2+ (priced at 12k)
http://www.dexterton.com/products/audioengine/a2-/04146-00021/4694/ (http://www.dexterton.com/products/audioengine/a2-/04146-00021/4694/)

PSB Alpha PS1 (priced at $299. not sure about the local price)
http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/powered-speakers/Alpha-PS1-Powered-Speaker (http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/powered-speakers/Alpha-PS1-Powered-Speaker)

both of these powered speakers are available at Spectra in Glorietta. you can also buy the Audioengine A2+ in Dexterton in 4/F, Greenbelt 5.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Courage on Feb 21, 2016 at 10:44 PM
Ok nga yung Onkyo, but I'll blow my 15k budget just on the amp

Kung bnew sir na may brand, kulang talaga ang 15k mo..
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: gutierrez on Feb 22, 2016 at 12:24 AM
2nd hand bookshel speaker and 2nd hand integrated amp, dami sa fs section
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: dodie on Feb 22, 2016 at 03:18 AM
opinion lang sir...if uour into music, dont sacrifice the sound quality ma squeeze mo lang lahat sa 15k...sayang lang boss kung ikaw hindi fully satisfied...

may bx2 sa market place. pwedeng lepai or smsl na t amp tapos nad pp4 na phono or pyle. pagipunan mo na lang yung media streamer mo na may bluetooth..
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 22, 2016 at 06:13 AM
15K for speakers, pre and amplification components seems to be a tall order given the space and kind of music that the TS listens to. New Waveand Rock are not satisfying to listen to if the system cannot deliver down low in frequency. Up the ante to 25K and it is doable.

Here is what I would to with 25k

- i will go pre owned to maximize price to performance ratio.

- totally disregard an AV receiver since I will be paying for features that I wont use and instead hunt for a stereo receiver that has line and phono inputs. A used NAD or CREEK will be on my radar for this. Both units are known for its clean amplification output and relatively good phono inputs as well. No remote though but the TS will use IOS or Android devices as the front end anyway.

- for the budget a pair of big bookshelf speakers with matching stands. Bookshelf speakers with 6.5inch bass/mid driver will be enough to deliver good performance. Veer away from the 5" or 4" bass/mid designs. Those will fall short of delivering the output and type of music the TS listens to. If opportunity presents itself a pre owned floorstander might be on hand.

- a subwoofer in the 8" to 10" sealed category. This is key due to the space and type of music.

- Bluetooth receiver to link devices to stereo system.

- well designed cables and of course a simple component rack.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 22, 2016 at 08:50 AM
Thanks sa mga gurus for your valued input.  I think kulang nga ang budget so I may need to add a little more kaysa mapabili nga, pagsisihan ko lang din if I'm not happy.

Anyway, the house won't be ready for another 6 months so that leaves me time to save and bargain hunt.

Is the VSX-405 from Pioneer a good one?  I just remembered that my mom has one that she doesn't use anymore so I might be able to just buy this off her at a good price :-)
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Feb 22, 2016 at 08:58 AM
Thanks sa mga gurus for your valued input.  I think kulang nga ang budget so I may need to add a little more kaysa mapabili nga, pagsisihan ko lang din if I'm not happy.

Anyway, the house won't be ready for another 6 months so that leaves me time to save and bargain hunt.

Is the VSX-405 from Pioneer a good one?  I just remembered that my mom has one that she doesn't use anymore so I might be able to just buy this off her at a good price :-)

I was going to suggest saving more..kesa pilitin mo bumili sa budget na 15k..hindi naman madami dagdag mo pra sa decent setup..since you will be aiming for audio only..I suggest integrated amp na lang saka speakers kesa mag AVR ka..
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 22, 2016 at 09:01 AM
I was going to suggest saving more..kesa pilitin mo bumili sa budget na 15k..hindi naman madami dagdag mo pra sa decent setup..since you will be aiming for audio only..I suggest integrated amp na lang saka speakers kesa mag AVR ka..

Thanks bro, yeah will just save a little more to add to the budget.

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Feb 22, 2016 at 09:07 AM
Thanks bro, yeah will just save a little more to add to the budget.



nung una nagulat ako sabi nyo newbie kayo pero feedback nyo eh nasa 22 na hehe..kayo pala kinuhaan ko wonder wafers hehe..ako ung nasa rcbc din

yes sir 6 mos matagal pa un and mas madami ka magiging choices pra happy in the end :)
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 22, 2016 at 09:16 AM
nung una nagulat ako sabi nyo newbie kayo pero feedback nyo eh nasa 22 na hehe..kayo pala kinuhaan ko wonder wafers hehe..ako ung nasa rcbc din

yes sir 6 mos matagal pa un and mas madami ka magiging choices pra happy in the end :)

Newbie lang sir when it comes to audio setup hehe...  I have a basic knowledge of it from setting up car audio, but we all know that it's a world of a difference
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 22, 2016 at 09:33 AM
15K for speakers, pre and amplification components seems to be a tall order given the space and kind of music that the TS listens to. New Waveand Rock are not satisfying to listen to if the system cannot deliver down low in frequency. Up the ante to 25K and it is doable.

I agree with you. Medjo demanding sa system ang rock music if you want SQ for that genre.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 22, 2016 at 11:26 AM
I agree with you. Medjo demanding sa system ang rock music if you want SQ for that genre.

i will definitely bump up the budget sir based on the feedback received.  i'll be on the look out na rin for the suggested components that synchro_01 recommended
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 23, 2016 at 01:45 AM
i will definitely bump up the budget sir based on the feedback received.  i'll be on the look out na rin for the suggested components that synchro_01 recommended

Audition is key. The brands that I recommended may not suit your preference but I believe they are good all rounders that can deliver the goods. Good idea to be on the lookout in the Marketplace since most of the guys here in PDVD take care of their gears hence you get a better price to performance trade off in going pre-owned. 
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 23, 2016 at 08:01 AM
Audition is key. The brands that I recommended may not suit your preference but I believe they are good all rounders that can deliver the goods. Good idea to be on the lookout in the Marketplace since most of the guys here in PDVD take care of their gears hence you get a better price to performance trade off in going pre-owned. 

Thanks sir.  Just one last thing...

Given that I will only listen to music on this setup, I ditch the receivers with AV functions.  But does that also mean that I will just shop for 2 channel stereo receivers right?  Preferably with Phono and Subwoofer capabilities?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: hi-fidelity-4-all on Feb 23, 2016 at 09:15 AM
Thanks sir.  Just one last thing...

Given that I will only listen to music on this setup, I ditch the receivers with AV functions.  But does that also mean that I will just shop for 2 channel stereo receivers right?  Preferably with Phono and Subwoofer capabilities?


AV (audio/video) or HT (home theater) Receiver = AM/FM Receiver + Preamplifier + Amplifier (generally, 5+ channels for surround sound and provide video functions to hook up a display

Integrated Amplifier = Preamplifier + Amplifier (generally, 2 channels for audio only setup)

Preamplifier = multiple inputs (to connect analog sources - CDP, phono, tape, Aux, etc.), at least one set of outputs to feed an Amplifier

Amplifier = Amplifier (at least 2 channels for stereo, 5+ for surround)


The benefit of separate components is flexibility and upgradability.

Also, if you go the AV Receiver route now, with a low budget, another upgrade path is an external DAC.

Enjoy your search.  It's half the fun of music listening (?)   : )
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Feb 23, 2016 at 09:27 AM
Thanks sir.  Just one last thing...

Given that I will only listen to music on this setup, I ditch the receivers with AV functions.  But does that also mean that I will just shop for 2 channel stereo receivers right?  Preferably with Phono and Subwoofer capabilities?

Most 2 channel amps do not have subwoofer out..kaya normally 2.0 lang setup..kasi satisfied na madalas sa bass coming from the speakers..pero pag bitin ka talaga sa lows you can incorporate a subwoofer..kahit walang subwoofer out ang amp..meron naman line level inputs/outputs mga subs ngayon..so dun mo padaanin
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Gino on Feb 23, 2016 at 09:38 AM
Some subwoofers have speaker level inputs. These are used when a subwoofer line level (rca) is not available. The speaker level terminals connect in parallel with the main speakers.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 23, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Some subwoofers have speaker level inputs. These are used when a subwoofer line level (rca) is not available. The speaker level terminals connect in parallel with the main speakers.

This is the method that works best for me.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 23, 2016 at 10:28 AM
Thanks sir.  Just one last thing...

Given that I will only listen to music on this setup, I ditch the receivers with AV functions.  But does that also mean that I will just shop for 2 channel stereo receivers right?  Preferably with Phono and Subwoofer capabilities?

Yes. The subs can be easily integrated using RCA Y jacks via pre out or via speaker input of sub. If phono is your poison then look for a used integrated 4140 CREEK. The phono stage of that unit is impeccable plus it pumps out a clean and rated 40watts x 2. Just be patient in looking for one since it seldom pops out in the Market place but is worth the wait.

For speakers go for a Brit made para all brit set up ka. Bagay sa New Wave yun  :)
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 23, 2016 at 03:21 PM
Yes. The subs can be easily integrated using RCA Y jacks via pre out or via speaker input of sub. If phono is your poison then look for a used integrated 4140 CREEK. The phono stage of that unit is impeccable plus it pumps out a clean and rated 40watts x 2. Just be patient in looking for one since it seldom pops out in the Market place but is worth the wait.

For speakers go for a Brit made para all brit set up ka. Bagay sa New Wave yun  :)


Thanks bro, will be on the look out for a Creek then
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: dodie on Feb 24, 2016 at 12:07 AM
btw boss ano ang gamit mong turntable at karayom?

eto sir baka gusto mo?

for sale by sir nolax...
UPDATED PRICES!
Rotel RA1520 and B&W 685 combo

1. Slightly used  Rotel RA1520 (2.1 plus a bery goo mm phono section) and B&W 685 combo @ P58k price drop to p48k.
with Wireworld entry level speaker wire as freebie.

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 24, 2016 at 07:41 AM
btw boss ano ang gamit mong turntable at karayom?

eto sir baka gusto mo?

for sale by sir nolax...
UPDATED PRICES!
Rotel RA1520 and B&W 685 combo

1. Slightly used  Rotel RA1520 (2.1 plus a bery goo mm phono section) and B&W 685 combo @ P58k price drop to p48k.
with Wireworld entry level speaker wire as freebie.



Yeah, I saw that post nga.  But 48k is a little steep. Wala pa ko cabinet dyan and wires.

Wala pa ko turntable sir, which is also why tempting as Nolax's post is, i have to reserve funds din for a turntable pa haha

Is Cambridge any good?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: dodie on Feb 24, 2016 at 11:16 AM
cambrigdege tt50? nope bossing...

yung kay nolax, give away na yung 685 dun.  then youll be spending at least 20k for a decent TT plus karayom. then another 5k for the stand ang rack. then another 15-20k for a good sub...then another 4k for the voltage regulator And line filter...medyo mahal boss pag inisip mo...pero pwedeng sleeper na yang setup na yan.
may kasabihan nga tayo "what is money compare to happiness" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: mbtorn on Feb 24, 2016 at 12:09 PM
cambrigdege tt50? nope bossing...

yung kay nolax, give away na yung 685 dun.  then youll be spending at least 20k for a decent TT plus karayom. then another 5k for the stand ang rack. then another 15-20k for a good sub...then another 4k for the voltage regulator And line filter...medyo mahal boss pag inisip mo...pero pwedeng sleeper na yang setup na yan.
may kasabihan nga tayo "what is money compare to happiness" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



+ 1000   No price for happiness!! ;D
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Superman on Feb 24, 2016 at 12:20 PM
If it is from Nolax, it must be EXCELLENT! :D
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Feb 24, 2016 at 07:01 PM
A CREEK 4040 is in the market place. Unfortunately it is over your set budget
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,205864.msg2369872/topicseen.html#new

Thanks bro, will be on the look out for a Creek then
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 24, 2016 at 07:25 PM
cambrigdege tt50? nope bossing...

yung kay nolax, give away na yung 685 dun.  then youll be spending at least 20k for a decent TT plus karayom. then another 5k for the stand ang rack. then another 15-20k for a good sub...then another 4k for the voltage regulator And line filter...medyo mahal boss pag inisip mo...pero pwedeng sleeper na yang setup na yan.
may kasabihan nga tayo "what is money compare to happiness" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Haha... Ang layo na ng tinalon ng budget ko. From 15k to 100k, hehe. I'm already open to increasing the budget. I figure that if this is anything like car audio, I'm better off spending for high end equipment than settling and just spending more down the road for an upgrade. The problem is, funds won't come in until around end of March and not sure that Nolax's items will still be available by then. Baka pwede hulugan haha...
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: zram18 on Feb 25, 2016 at 12:22 PM
15k for a decent setup, that's really impossible sir.

maliit na lang po 15k ngayon. sa Raon nga, Konzert/Sakura amp with speakers 15k plus na but i dont think you will be satisfied with that. kung gusto mo, marami sa pier mura, amp and speakers from Japan pero not in good condition and you need to have a techie partner to identify the good from the bad or else mapapagastos ka rin for refurbishment and replacement of wornout parts.

my advice is to keep your 15k and wait for the next fund "reinforcement" kahit mga 15k lang ulit. so with a budget of 30k, you will have more (and better) options.

Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Gino on Feb 25, 2016 at 03:17 PM
Decent is relative. Like I have small Denon bookshelf at the market place for P5000. It's a pocket rocket. Get a Chinese digital amp with at least 70w x 2ch and you get decent sound with good midbass. A phono stage preamp must come later since that is expensive.
Title: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 25, 2016 at 09:21 PM
Did some canvassing today. How does this package sound? Creek 4040s, Polk RTi A1 and a Rega Turntable (forgot the model, but the entry level one). Still hunting for a good cd player and a subwoofer. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 26, 2016 at 01:56 AM
Did some canvassing today. How does this package sound? Creek 4040s, Polk RTi A1 and a Rega Turntable (forgot the model, but the entry level one). Still hunting for a good cd player and a subwoofer. Any ideas?

I'd ditch the Polk and get something warmer in signature sound but that's just me. No offense to Polk users. I use Polk as well on my HT.

can your budget reach for an Epos? or B&W?

That would be a GREAT starter system.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: mbtorn on Feb 26, 2016 at 02:12 AM
Get the creek amp then try to score a wharfedale denton as speakers then rega tt & phono preamp for an all british set up!
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: ndotcom on Feb 26, 2016 at 02:54 AM
Are you keen on the Creek 4040 and this from Forseti? The owner have lot of speakers to test them with and try to ask if he still have the epos es11's and audition the pair.

This could also be considered

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,160415.msg1621252.html#msg1621252

I have an epos M12 still lying around not used if this helps.  ;)

Try the new Epos lines too I think a shop in Makati Cinema Square offers them.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 26, 2016 at 04:39 AM
Rega + Creek + Epos = killer starter set up
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 26, 2016 at 06:26 AM
Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I only went to one store so limited ang na-canvass haha. I'll have a look at other speakers din.

To be honest, dahil medyo strecthed ang original planned budget, I might defer on the TT and just go muna with a CD player. Any leads?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: DTNS on Feb 26, 2016 at 11:12 AM
Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I only went to one store so limited ang na-canvass haha. I'll have a look at other speakers din.

To be honest, dahil medyo strecthed ang original planned budget, I might defer on the TT and just go muna with a CD player. Any leads?

for a budget CD player, I'd suggest the following:

Marantz CD5005
Onkyo C-7030
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: -mhan- on Feb 26, 2016 at 12:03 PM
for a budget CD player, I'd suggest the following:

Marantz CD5005
Onkyo C-7030

san store nabibili yung C-7030 sir?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: DTNS on Feb 26, 2016 at 04:16 PM
san store nabibili yung C-7030 sir?


directly from Toyama or from one of their dealers. check out this link:
http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!dealers/bpfsy (http://www.onkyophilippines.com/#!dealers/bpfsy)

pwede rin online. pero walang discount pag bumili ka online.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 27, 2016 at 12:47 AM

To be honest, dahil medyo strecthed ang original planned budget, I might defer on the TT and just go muna with a CD player. Any leads?

If all your media is backed up on a drive/PC/Phone/Tablet etc you can use that for the moment as your basic front end source or just use a DVD player as a temporary option.
 
Put all your initial budget on the integrated amp / speaker / sub combo so you can get the basics really right. The foundation of your system according to impact on overall performace should be the speaker then the amp. Get this wrong and no matter how good your front end is it will not be maximized.

Once you have recovered from the initial purchase shock then you can then decide to get a cdp or a TT
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: junji on Feb 27, 2016 at 08:17 AM
If you have pc or laptop, you can use as a source by installing foobar2000 for free. Look for bs and amp used from marketplace. Basa ka lang ng feedback from audioreview site at dito sa pdvd for actual users. Wag sa whathifi ha.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 27, 2016 at 08:55 AM
And don't forget, audition auditiom audition. You should know kung ano ang preferred SQ mo before you buy. Bring some of your favorite and test tracks. Minimum 6-10 systems bago mo malaman ang preference mo. Then you build your system based on your preferred SQ.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM
And don't forget, audition auditiom audition. You should know kung ano ang preferred SQ mo before you buy. Bring some of your favorite and test tracks. Minimum 6-10 systems bago mo malaman ang preference mo. Then you build your system based on your preferred SQ.

This part of the hobby is very important. Dont be in a hurry to fork over your hard earned cash so that you could take home the kit and begin to enjoy it. Enjoy the process.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Feb 28, 2016 at 08:22 AM
This part of the hobby is very important. Dont be in a hurry to fork over your hard earned cash so that you could take home the kit and begin to enjoy it. Enjoy the process.

I just had a meeting with our interior designer yesterday.  The bad news is that the current layout and design of our living room won't accommodate my planned audio setup.  The good news is, I would have to squeeze this into our dedicated TV room which is a lot smaller and I gather would be better for a pure audio setup. 

The only concern I have at the moment is how to integrate the audio setup into the TV room (10 to 12sqm) as I don't really want to have separate speakers for the TV and another set for my music.  I already have a simple setup for my movies which I'm happy with (Pioneer VSX405) with basic Pioneer speakers. 

I guess the logical choice for me is to use the bookshelf speakers I plan to get as the front speakers for both my movies and audio.  Since they're going to be driven by separate devices, I get a speaker selector switch? 

The other alternative is to retain the Pioneer floor standers and install the bookshelf speakers I'm getting for audio, but kind of cluttered. 

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Mar 01, 2016 at 06:02 PM
yes for me it will be cluttered nga..so it will depend on your priorities then sir..yes you can opt to ditch your Pio FS speakers for a good BS speakers for TV and Audio..but how about the amp?  Will you be satisfied with your Pio receiver for Audio duties?  I checked the back of the vsx-405 in the net and it looks like you have the option to choose channel A or B for Fronts..do you plan on building 5.1 set up for HT?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Mar 02, 2016 at 11:25 AM
yes for me it will be cluttered nga..so it will depend on your priorities then sir..yes you can opt to ditch your Pio FS speakers for a good BS speakers for TV and Audio..but how about the amp?  Will you be satisfied with your Pio receiver for Audio duties?  I checked the back of the vsx-405 in the net and it looks like you have the option to choose channel A or B for Fronts..do you plan on building 5.1 set up for HT?

If I get a good pair of BS speakers, medyo OC ako so I don't want it used for HT haha...  Gusto ko dedicated siya sa audio.

I may just give up the HT setup for a simple 2.1 system or maybe even a soundbar to get rid of the clutter.  Not that particular with HT.

Ibuhos ko na lang budget sa audio setup.  I'm looking at the Creek 4040s and pair it with PSB speakers.  Do I save the Pioneer receiver or no point in keeping it?  Wala yatang pre-outs as far as I can tell
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Mar 02, 2016 at 11:43 AM
I guess there will be no point in keeping the vsx 405 then hehe..yeah walang pre-outs except for the sub :)

yeah ok din soundbar for movies nyan..clean look nyan :)
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Mar 02, 2016 at 11:56 AM
I guess there will be no point in keeping the vsx 405 then hehe..yeah walang pre-outs except for the sub :)

yeah ok din soundbar for movies nyan..clean look nyan :)

Yun... finally got some direction. Hehe...

So for the audio setup, it's just going to be the Integrated Amp straight to the speakers plus the source (i.e. CD or TT)?
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: disturbed on Mar 02, 2016 at 01:16 PM
Yun... finally got some direction. Hehe...

So for the audio setup, it's just going to be the Integrated Amp straight to the speakers plus the source (i.e. CD or TT)?

yes sir..shopping na sir then post pics na sa gallery hehe..mag cd muna kayo sir..medyo madugo TT hehe
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Mar 02, 2016 at 01:20 PM
yes sir..shopping na sir then post pics na sa gallery hehe..mag cd muna kayo sir..medyo madugo TT hehe

wala talaga muna TT sir. but just wanted that option available in case dumating sa point na yun hehe.  i think the Creek 4040s naman yata has phono input so ok na dun hehe
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: ndotcom on Mar 04, 2016 at 01:10 AM
The Creek was already lowered by forseti, gogoggo :) Excited na ko malaman final setup neto, Goodluck bro!
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: tony on Mar 04, 2016 at 07:34 AM
minsan nag-uwi sa project site yung amo kong kano ng sound system, napakaliit nya, pero nung pinatunog na, napuno ng sounds yung 40 footer container namin....
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: bogart.2006 on Mar 27, 2016 at 08:17 PM
Updating this thread...

Finally pulled the trigger on my home audio setup. Got a NAD C316BEE and PSB Alpha B1 speakers.  For now, running Spotify through an iPad until I wait for my other components.  But quite happy with the sound

Thanks to Superman for the input in pairing the NAD with the PSB.

For the study/home office, I opted for a vintage feel and got a Creek 4040s2 powering Mordaunt Short MS10s.

Next project is the headless music server for both the AV room and the study
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 27, 2016 at 08:46 PM
minsan nag-uwi sa project site yung amo kong kano ng sound system, napakaliit nya, pero nung pinatunog na, napuno ng sounds yung 40 footer container namin....

Not meaning to say na mahina yun sound system but I would like to think na considering your friend played it sa isang 40 footer, sa dami ng reflections and flutter echoes niyan at sa haba niyan, mapupuno talaga ng sound yun 40 footer.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: tony on Mar 28, 2016 at 07:40 AM
Not meaning to say na mahina yun sound system but I would like to think na considering your friend played it sa isang 40 footer, sa dami ng reflections and flutter echoes niyan at sa haba niyan, mapupuno talaga ng sound yun 40 footer.

i was there when he played it, you were not.....happy easter....;)
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 28, 2016 at 09:04 AM

i was there when he played it, you were not.....happy easter....;)

Hehe! Magandang quote for the day ito. Happy Easter!
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: tony on Mar 28, 2016 at 11:04 AM
Hehe! Magandang quote for the day ito. Happy Easter!

i an still tracking the guy and get more info, the gadget he had was very small, but sounded very big..
good for those seeking to optimize space...
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 28, 2016 at 04:26 PM
i an still tracking the guy and get more info, the gadget he had was very small, but sounded very big..
good for those seeking to optimize space...

Mga madalas kong nakikita na malakas are the Bose cubes. Though Daichi has an equivalent, I'm not sure if it can play loud.
Title: Re: Suggestion on Simple Audio Setup
Post by: accastil on Jan 07, 2017 at 12:29 PM
Your receiver should have onboard phonostage and dac and at least 3 pairs of rca input and 1 digital input. What u have in mind will suffice.