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Title: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:20 PM: Hi guys. I've been a lurker since 2011, but I closely follow PinoyDVD threads to learn. Those who know me know that I was previously heavy into car audio. But I do have a simple 5.1 theater system in the bedroom my wife and I share. :)

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Above: Wharfedale 250 left and right speakers, 220C center channel, Denon AVR-4810 receiver and Sony 50-inch W600 TV. Media player is an old Xtreamer Sidewinder 3. Not in the photo are the left and right rear Wharfedale 220 speakers. :)

I'd like to share a recent build. This is a spare room at home that was turned into a music listening room. No video for now, just audio.

The room is small, 15ft x 15ft with a 12ft ceiling. All walls are concrete. The ceiling is concrete. The floor is wood parquet over concrete. Definitely not ideal acoustically. So early on, it was decided to divert funds for acoustic treatments into building a "ROOM WITHIN A ROOM."

The first benefit is the ratio of length x width x height could now be made more acoustically friendly, and room modes plus standing waves would be more predictable and thus easier (less costly) to treat.

The second benefit is soundproofing. A "room within a room" whose walls are filled with sound absorbent material easily lowers the noise floor 30dB, making it easier to hear quiet portions in music and enhancing the listening experience.

The third benefit is again soundproofing. High or loud listening levels will be kept inside the room and will not bother those outside.

Here are some photos:

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Above: The room is a square, so we tore down the old walls and ceiling to check the electricals and resize the room. Create a room-within-a-room with dimensions that were more acoustically friendly.

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Above: Vertical wooden joists spaced 2-feet apart. Rockwool insulation will be placed between those joists for soundproofing.

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Above: Lots of Rockwool purchased for the build.

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Above: This is the dense kind of Rockwool. There is something denser, 100kg/m3, but is a bit harder to find. 80kg will do. :)

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Above: A split-type inverter A/C will is mounted on an acoustically separate platform. Any vibrations from it will not go into the walls of the listening room.

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Above: A regular "HAT" channel is turned into "resilient" channel by trimming off one side of the "hat." The black dot on top is a wood screw that fastens it to the vertical joists. The rest of the channel is free to absorb vibrations. Hardieflex drywall will be screwed into the flat portions of the channels, avoiding the joists.

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Above: More joists and hat channels going up. Those windows have big gaps that let sound through and need to be sealed. So new doors will be built over them.

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Above: Rockwool insulation going into the walls. These are not fastened, but are simply fitted between the joists. Air spaces in front of and behind the Rockwool help sound isolation.

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Above: Rockwool insulation between ceiling joists. For the ceiling, no trimming was done on the HAT-resilient channels, as they needed to support the weight of the Hardieflex drywall.

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Above:New doors covering the windows and more HAT-resilient channels have gone up. Rockwool will go between the joists before being covered up with Hardieflex.

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Above: The Hardieflex drywall is thin on purpose because the room is small. Rigid walls are good for big rooms like 20ft x 30ft, but in my small 14ft x 11ft room, 4.5mm-thick Hardieflex on the walls and ceiling will flex and act as quasi-bass traps. So essentially, all walls are bass traps. Not as effective as purpose-built traps, but conserves space. :)

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Above: This is the new entrance into the room. More Rockwool is waiting outside, to be placed inside the walls is via a solid door. Not made of wood, but of Versaboard. It can be sanded and painted just like wood, but is actually made from sandwiched layers of PVC plastic. Damping is excellent. They do not "ring" when knocked. More information on Versaboard doors here: http://www.stjosephtrdg.com/versaboard-pvc-foamboards-and-versa-solid-pvc-doors-and-jambs/versa-solid-pvc-doors-and-jambs/

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Above: Hardieflex drywall has gone up, with white primer. Dimmable LED spotlights have already been wired-in.

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Above: Here is one of the dimmable LED spotlight used in the room. I got it from Wilcon Builders. The electrical circuit they are on is separate from audio mains.

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Above: There is a "beauty board" with handles over the A/C. It is easily removed in case the A/C needs cleaning or servicing. On the right side of the photo is one of the new window doors ajar. You can see how thick it is. It is 4-inches thick, just like the wall it is mounted on, also with Rockwool insulation inside.

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Above: Here's a better view of the door that covers the glass windows. Those white thingies on the jamb are magnets. We used many of them to keep the foam weatherstrip seals in contact with each other. Gaps in the door and jamb allow sound through. Strips of foam rubber are on all mating surfaces so there are no gaps. But foam weatherseals are elastic, so lots of magnets were used. It actually takes quite some force to open the door with all those magnets in place. :)

Oh and that white thing over the doors is an LED emergency light, In case there is a brownout, it automatically switches on. :)

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Above: Finally some color on the walls. That electric fan stayed on for several days to ventilate the room. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:21 PM: Now off to build DIY room treatments. :)

First, some "superchunk" corner bass traps.

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Above: Rockwool insulation was cut into triangles and stacked in a DIY wooden frame. The long edge that faces the room is 2-feet wide.

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Above: Each superchunk is 8 feet tall, going from floor-to-ceiling.

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Above: heavy-duty casters were mounted underneath, to allow for easier moving and positioning. Well, not really easy. One superchunk ended up weighing roughly 90 kilos. :)

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Above: Now to wrap them with acoustically transparent fabric. This is from Fabric Warehouse. Cheap at under ₱ 30 per meter. Blow through them and they offer very little resistance. They also stretch a bit, too. Easy to staple down on the wooden frame.

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Above: Here they are, positioned in the corners of the front wall. Overhead is a 4-inch-thick DIY Rockwool sound absorber "cloud." It is 4ft x 4ft and is suspended 6-inches from the ceiling.

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Above: lots of semi-circular curved diffusers from the one and only Master Nelson De Leon. There is acoustic foam behind each diffuser.

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They go on another ceiling cloud of 2-inch-thick Rockwool. They are arranged alternately, like fish scales. Sound enters the gaps between diffusers and is absorbed by the Rockwool on top.

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Above: Another view of the diffuser cloud.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:22 PM: Now for the electricals. :)

Mains voltage in my area is high, usually over 240VAC, and fluctuates a lot. So two servo-type Automatic Voltage Regulators feed a stable 220V to my audio gear. The relays and servo motors inside make noise, so these are outside the listening room.

Also, power into those two AVRs is from a dedicated breaker. This avoids interference and noise from other household appliances.

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Above: The two AVRs. The one on the left is a 3kW model, for the amplifier. On the right is a 2kW model, for source electronics.

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Above: An AC Power Filter from Boss Obet (Narayan). This cleans up what comes out of the 2kW AVR.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:23 PM: How about the source of music? :)

This is an all-digital system. Music is stored in external hard drives connected to the computer in the 3rd Floor bedroom.

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Above: Sorry for the mess. Haha.. This is the computer that my wife and I use. Inside are an Intel Core i7-4790k cooled by a Corsair H110 with push-pull fans, an Asus Z97 motherboard, 16GB of RAM and a Samsung 250GB SSD boot drive. The power supply is a 700-watt unit from FSP and is true-rated. This computer runs cool and is never switched off. On top are seven 4TB external hard drives where various media (music and movies) are stored. NAS? Yes, soon. I don't have one yet, but I will get one soon. :)

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Above: A close up of the external drives. They are on a custom wooden frame that lifts them 4-inches up for better airflow. On a hot afternoon, drive temperature (via CrystalDiskInfo software) remains no higher than 47 degrees C. At night when the A/C is on, it drops to around 32 degrees C. Not bad for hard drives. More info on the software I use here: http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

The Xtreamer Sidewinder 3 that I use in the bedroom (the very first post above) gets movies from this computer without any need for uPNP software. It also DTS-HD Master and Dolby TrueHD pass-through which the Denon can decode.

For music, I use MINIMSERVER uPNP software to serve FLACs and DSD files stored in those hard drives to a media player in the listening room below.

Minimserver is free-of-charge, easy to configure and can stream DSD files. No, it is not a player. It simply serves media. Good thing is that it is small (barely 1 megabyte and written in JAVA script) and consumes very little CPU resources (1-2%).

There are versions of Minimserver can run off a compatible NAS. More info here: http://minimserver.com/features.html
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:23 PM: Now back to the listening room and the gear. :)

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Above: Loudspeakers are a pair of Bowers & Wilkins CM10 S2. They are powered by an Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2 five channel amplifier that I purchased from Jason (Courage).

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Above: Here's a close-up of the XPA-5 Gen 2. It is on a custom BB3 floor rack. Behind it is a Monster Powerlink 300 cable ending in Hubbell connectors, loaned to me by BB3 himself. The outlets go straight to the 3kW AVR outside the room (the third post from the top).

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Above: Here is the listening chair and equipment rack beside it. The chair and rack were again, custom-made by BB3. They are darker than his usual works, based on my request. Fine work. Excellent craftsmanship. I'm very happy with them. :)

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Above: Here's a close-up of the equipment. On top is a Cambridge Audio CXN network player / DAC. Below it is a Cambridge Audio CXC CD Transport (no audio outputs). Its digital out goes to the CXN. Below this is an Emotiva XSP-1 Gen 2 balanced preamplifier.

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Above: Here's a view of the back. :)

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Above: This is the back of the two Cambridge Audio components. From the left side, all power cords were upgraded to Boss Obet's (Narayan) Furukawa, with Ferrite Core filters. A Wi-Fi dongle that came with the CXN is plugged into one of its USB ports. I disabled it in the CXN setup because I am on a wired network. The bright blue wire in the middle is a CAT6 ethernet cable. It connects to a gigabit router in the upstairs bedroom, and is how music from gets to the CXN. Beside it are a violet and dark blue wire. These are coaxial and optical digital interconnects from the CD transport below. The CXN has a USB DAC which is unused. Finally, on the right side are the balanced XLR audio outputs. These go to the Emotiva XSP-1 preamp.

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Above: Here is the input side of the Emotiva preamp. Since a lot of effort was spent soundproofing the room and making it acoustically friendly, I thought signal interconnects should be as quiet as possible. So I decided to forego RCA in favor of balanced XLR.

The balanced cables are DIY, from connectors and wires purchased from Audiophile in SM North EDSA. Fortunately their XLR plugs are NEUTRIK, a well-known brand. The cable is NOBELLE, a brand that is not really known, but another thread here at PinoyDVD favorably compares it to high-end balanced cables. Almost no audible difference from expensive US brands. :)

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Above: Here is the output side of the Emotiva preamp. It has two pairs of stereo outputs that are active all the time. It has switchable bass management via a high-pass and low-pass crossovers. These are switched off. Since the amplifier between the speakers is far away (8-meters), balanced cables are used. Again, Neutrik plugs and Nobelle wire, DIY soldered. Color-coded stickers are on the wires to identify the channels.

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Above: This is the back of the amplifier. The Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2 is a five-channel amplifier operating in bi-amp mode. It is powerful, producing 200W into 8Ω at 0.01% THD, all channels driven. Into 4Ω, it produces over 300W at 0.08% THD, also all channels driven. The two left channels power the left speaker and the two right channels power the right speaker. The middle channel is unused. In this photo, QED Performance Bi-wire is used. It was since upgraded to... :)

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Above: Audioquest Rocket 33's. These use solid-core (not stranded) wire. Separate bass and treble wires go to separate channels of the XPA-5 five-channel amplifier. They are directional cables and there is a noticeable improvement over the QED Performance. Bass is tighter, vocals are more in focus and highs have more air. Perhaps this is expected as they cost more. Haha.. :)

A few final photos...

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:25 PM: Now for some tunes. :)

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Above: Cambridge Audio has a handy app for both Android and iOS devices. It allows you to choose songs and put them into a queue. Album art is also displayed.

The Cambridge Audio CXN has a 4-inch full-color LCD display for album art and metadata. The format and bitrate of the song is also shown.

Here are some songs that I listen to. :)

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Thanks for viewing. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 29, 2016 at 08:35 PM: Ayan na! Congrats! As expected, always the best for tita Elco.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: shoktongxxx on Sep 29, 2016 at 08:44 PM: wow danda!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: flashDB on Sep 29, 2016 at 08:46 PM: what a build! another inspiration...
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 29, 2016 at 08:48 PM: Finally you made a thread Elco. Nice to see you on the boards ;) I have been given the opportunity to listen to this setup and this listening room is superb! We still have a date Elco with a bottle of wine as we listen to some great tracks! ;) Congrats! :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: RastaSega on Sep 29, 2016 at 10:20 PM: amaaaazzinnng mare!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 29, 2016 at 10:20 PM: Quote from: stickfighter on Sep 29, 2016 at 08:48 PM
Finally you made a thread Elco. Nice to see you on the boards ;) I have been given the opportunity to listen to this setup and this listening room is superb! We still have a date Elco with a bottle of wine as we listen to some great tracks! ;) Congrats! :)
Sama niyo naman ako!!!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dencio105 on Sep 29, 2016 at 10:36 PM: Congrats for a very well thought out set up!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Sep 29, 2016 at 11:02 PM: Any elco build is always well thought well executed. Galing!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:57 AM: Fantabulous setup Tita! If it's from Elco, it must be good!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:14 AM: Thanks very much, guys. I appreciate all the kind words. :)

Joseph, if you're in the area, drop by for a listen. The quietness of the room and isolation from noise make it easy to hear the difference between CD quality FLAC and DSD. :)

Master Nelson, ikaw din. You left some circular diffusers with me. When you pick them up, spare 30 minutes for a quick listen. Repositioning the speakers managed to cure the 100Hz hump I was telling you about. :)

Martin, game! Please bring the wine. I'll supply the tunes. :)

VG, salamas! Pero walang binatbat room ko sa LFA mo. Pashotgun naman minsan! Hehe.. :)

I would also like to thank a bunch of folks who helped. Without them, the build wouldn't turn out as well. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:16 AM: Sabay kaya ako kay stickfighter? Hehe?

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:25 AM: Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:16 AM
Sabay kaya ako kay stickfighter? Hehe?

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Magyayakapan kami. Sabay ka rin? Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 30, 2016 at 03:44 AM: nice :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Sep 30, 2016 at 04:01 AM: Quote from: ninjababez® on Sep 30, 2016 at 03:44 AM
nice :)
Naudition mo na idol yang kotse ni Tita. Yung malupit na FD with bookshelf-type fronts.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 04:11 AM: Audition? Sure! Just let me know when in advance. Banawe area. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 30, 2016 at 05:32 AM: Quote from: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:14 AM
Martin, game! Please bring the wine. I'll supply the tunes. :)

Of course! I will message you once my schedule frees up ;)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 30, 2016 at 07:17 AM: Quote from: sientobente on Sep 30, 2016 at 04:01 AM
Naudition mo na idol yang kotse ni Tita. Yung malupit na FD with bookshelf-type fronts.
sinong tita bro? si elmer ba?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: mykel18 on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:25 AM: Awesome build! I'm using Minimserver also for my other files on the PC since my NAS is currently full.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Courage on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:34 AM: Awesomeness brader.... Ang gandaaaaa.... Kelan ba pwede bumisita dyan?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:39 AM: Quote from: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 02:25 AM
Magyayakapan kami. Sabay ka rin? Hehe.. :)
I will bring breast petals. Hehe! Para hindi ka makaisa na naman. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Stagea on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:31 AM: Very nice room and setup. Congrats Elco!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:52 AM: What's nice about the build is that he was able to provide treatment for the square room. Square room are just awful if left untreated. I hope the treatment was able to tame or control the echoes and reverbs
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: parasound on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:57 AM: Very Nice..
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Abad Santos 7 on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM: Congrats... very well planed and build.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: traveler69 on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM: Your soundproofing looks amazing. Wicked choice of components, too.

Thanks for sharing. It's a great project.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:27 PM: Quote from: mykel18 on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:25 AM
Awesome build! I'm using Minimserver also for my other files on the PC since my NAS is currently full.
Thanks, sir. I found Minimserver easier to configure compared to Foobar. :)

Quote from: Courage on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:34 AM
Awesomeness brader.... Ang gandaaaaa.... Kelan ba pwede bumisita dyan?
Thanks, Jason. Your amp was a nice match to the B&W speakers. Effortless, dynamic and quiet but very neutral sounding - not warm, not bright. Kung ano ang gustong iparinig ng artist, yun ang naririnig ko. You can audition it anytime, just let me know a day or two in advance. :)

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Sep 30, 2016 at 08:39 AM
I will bring breast petals. Hehe! Para hindi ka makaisa na naman. Hehe!
Di uubra yan sa akin. Ask Martin. Hahaha.. :)

Quote from: Stagea on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:31 AM
Very nice room and setup. Congrats Elco!
IDOL! Kumusta na? Long time no see! Thanks for the kind words. Please drop by when you're free. I need your comments. :)

Quote from: JoeyGS on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:52 AM
What's nice about the build is that he was able to provide treatment for the square room. Square room are just awful if left untreated. I hope the treatment was able to tame or control the echoes and reverbs
Thank you, sir. The room began as almost a cube. 15ft x 15ft x 12ft. I knew I would have to resize the room. Not having the funds for a professional acoustician, I consulted several websites on room modes and standing waves. The result was a final inner dimension of 14ft x 11ft x 8 ft. I knew I would need bass traps in such a small room, so the new walls were thin drywall on resilient channels with Rockwool behind. It flexes with bass waves and acts as a quasi-basstrap. I had no idea this would work when the walls were being built. Fortunately, it did. :)

Quote from: parasound on Sep 30, 2016 at 10:57 AM
Very Nice..
Thanks, sir. :)

Quote from: Abad Santos 7 on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:07 AM
Congrats... very well planed and build.

Cheers.
Thanks, sir. Since I did not have the funds for an architect, I decided on DIY. But to cut down on mistakes (as much as possible), I took my time planning and building. Planning took 3 months and the build took another 3 months. Hehe.. :)

Quote from: traveler69 on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM
Your soundproofing looks amazing. Wicked choice of components, too.

Thanks for sharing. It's a great project.
Thanks very much. Since I like to DIY but with as little waste as possible, a lot of research and computation went into the build. It also took a while to save up for everything. Haha.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Narayan on Sep 30, 2016 at 04:39 PM: Congrats on your very well designed and executed music room bro! 8) Glad to see my wares are worthy of your system. ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 01, 2016 at 02:45 AM: Quote from: Narayan on Sep 30, 2016 at 04:39 PM
Congrats on your very well designed and executed music room bro! 8) Glad to see my wares are worthy of your system. ;D
Muchos gracias, Boss Obet. If you're in the area, please let me know. I would value your feedback. :)

Plus may kukunin pa ako sa yo. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Stagea on Oct 01, 2016 at 01:32 PM: Quote from: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:27 PM

IDOL! Kumusta na? Long time no see! Thanks for the kind words. Please drop by when you're free. I need your comments. :)

Ayos naman master, ganun pa din. Kamusta na? Nadadaan ako sa area ng resto mo pero matagal na palang closed dun. Thanks sa invitation sir, schedule natin. Pag nakarating ako diyan baka di mo na ako mapaalis. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Gino on Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40 PM: What a wonderful build. Very elegant result.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: JoeyGS on Oct 02, 2016 at 10:52 PM: Wise move on re-configuring the room dimensions.

Let this be a good tip for those who have square/cube rooms.

Well done.

Quote from: elco on Sep 30, 2016 at 12:27 PM
Thank you, sir. The room began as almost a cube. 15ft x 15ft x 12ft. I knew I would have to resize the room. Not having the funds for a professional acoustician, I consulted several websites on room modes and standing waves. The result was a final inner dimension of 14ft x 11ft x 8 ft. I knew I would need bass traps in such a small room, so the new walls were thin drywall on resilient channels with Rockwool behind. It flexes with bass waves and acts as a quasi-basstrap. I had no idea this would work when the walls were being built. Fortunately, it did. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Oct 03, 2016 at 07:16 AM: hey, nice setup, audio na audio :).
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 09:48 AM: Quote from: Gino on Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40 PM
What a wonderful build. Very elegant result.
Thank you, sir. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 09:51 AM: Quote from: JoeyGS on Oct 02, 2016 at 10:52 PM
Wise move on re-configuring the room dimensions.

Let this be a good tip for those who have square/cube rooms.

Well done.

Thank you, sir. The renovation was something I really saved up for. I told myself - no buying gear until the room is done. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 09:52 AM: Quote from: jazzed up on Oct 03, 2016 at 07:16 AM
hey, nice setup, audio na audio :).
Salamat po, sir :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: navigator2377 on Oct 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM: Superb set up! congratulations po! Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: cyberdraven on Oct 03, 2016 at 12:02 PM: congrats tita!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: corpse grinder on Oct 03, 2016 at 12:05 PM: ganda!!! na inspired na nman ako....
mindset :hard work-hard work-hard work para sa setup. ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 02:57 PM: Quote from: navigator2377 on Oct 03, 2016 at 10:36 AM
Superb set up! congratulations po! Thank you for sharing!
Maraming salamat po, sir. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 03:08 PM: Quote from: cyberdraven on Oct 03, 2016 at 12:02 PM
congrats tita!
Thank you, pare. Just tell me in advance if you want to audition. Pero FYI lang, pare - this system was designed for the most neutrality and faithfulness to the original. It will not add warmth nor brightness nor color the music in any way, to my taste or to whomever's.

I will cite examples. My system will not "tame" music that was originally recorded bright (Madonna's first album in 1983 - yung may "Holiday"), nor will it add brightness to music that lacks highs (Natalie Merchant - Tigerlily). But it will faithfully reproduce music that was recorded well (Tracy Chapman's 1988 Album - yung may "Fast Car").

Hope this is OK with you, pare. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 03:08 PM: Quote from: corpse grinder on Oct 03, 2016 at 12:05 PM
ganda!!! na inspired na nman ako....
mindset :hard work-hard work-hard work para sa setup. ;D
Salamat po, sir. Medyo matagal ko pong pinag ipunan ito. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: mbtorn on Oct 03, 2016 at 03:09 PM: Congrats! This is what a listening room should be, all about enjoying music. Great!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dom_08 on Oct 03, 2016 at 03:47 PM: Thank you for the tour and audi few weeks back Tita!
Enjoyed every minute of it!

Buti you took build photos, now I can I understand more of what happened behind the walls.
'til the next audi sessions. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: cyberdraven on Oct 04, 2016 at 04:16 PM: Quote from: elco on Oct 03, 2016 at 03:08 PM
Thank you, pare. Just tell me in advance if you want to audition. Pero FYI lang, pare - this system was designed for the most neutrality and faithfulness to the original. It will not add warmth nor brightness nor color the music in any way, to my taste or to whomever's.

I will cite examples. My system will not "tame" music that was originally recorded bright (Madonna's first album in 1983 - yung may "Holiday"), nor will it add brightness to music that lacks highs (Natalie Merchant - Tigerlily). But it will faithfully reproduce music that was recorded well (Tracy Chapman's 1988 Album - yung may "Fast Car").

Hope this is OK with you, pare. :)

Naks! Basta enjoy the session nalang. Too bad, traffic is worse in Marcos Hiway nowadays and leaving the house on weekends is really a PITA!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dom_08 on Oct 05, 2016 at 12:31 AM: Quote from: cyberdraven on Oct 04, 2016 at 04:16 PM
Naks! Basta enjoy the session nalang. Too bad, traffic is worse in Marcos Hiway nowadays and leaving the house on weekends is really a PITA!

pa-ot. SOBRA! ang hirap humanap ng window sa Marcos Hi-way na hindi pasakit ang traffic. :(
kamusta yung sayo papa cyberdraven? :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: xgh0st12x on Oct 05, 2016 at 02:15 AM: Wow! anong room ito sa November Hi-Fi Show?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: cyberdraven on Oct 05, 2016 at 08:19 AM: Quote from: dom_08 on Oct 05, 2016 at 12:31 AM
pa-ot. SOBRA! ang hirap humanap ng window sa Marcos Hi-way na hindi pasakit ang traffic. :(
kamusta yung sayo papa cyberdraven? :)

Grabe nga trapik pare.i need to leave the house at 5:30 to be at katipunan by 6am.nakakarating na ako sa pasig by 9:30.sa tindi ng trapik, 3 eggs na 5km daily nahahatch ko.hahaha!

Walang bago sakin.this traffic causes a lot of stress.maaga aalis ng bahay, late na nakakauwi.no more time for music.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: meat_eater on Oct 05, 2016 at 09:42 AM: WOW!!! :o

Any plans of going analog? ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 05, 2016 at 06:57 PM: Quote from: cyberdraven on Oct 05, 2016 at 08:19 AM
Grabe nga trapik pare.i need to leave the house at 5:30 to be at katipunan by 6am.nakakarating na ako sa pasig by 9:30.sa tindi ng trapik, 3 eggs na 5km daily nahahatch ko.hahaha!

Walang bago sakin.this traffic causes a lot of stress.maaga aalis ng bahay, late na nakakauwi.no more time for music.
May kilala ako na driver natanggal sa trabaho because of the traffic. He was tasked to deliver monggo. Sa sobrang traffic, naging togue na yun monggo. Hehe!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: luis on Oct 06, 2016 at 11:01 AM: very clean and elegant set-up, superb gears!

happy listening. ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 06, 2016 at 03:53 PM: Quote from: xgh0st12x on Oct 05, 2016 at 02:15 AM
Wow! anong room ito sa November Hi-Fi Show?
Thank you, sir. Pero spectator lang po ako. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 06, 2016 at 04:01 PM: Quote from: meat_eater on Oct 05, 2016 at 09:42 AM
WOW!!! :o

Any plans of going analog? ;D
Thanks!

No plans of going analog as of the moment. I've heard many excellent-sounding turntable setups and I love how they sound.

But they cost a lot and I'm lazy. Not really into rituals. Before playing an LP, my friends who love vinyl lightly clean it with an anti-static brush. Then they gently brush the stylus tip. Of course, extra care is taken when handling the album sleeve and cover. And in their spare time, they adjust VTA and azimuth.

Perhaps one day I too will enjoy those rituals. But not now. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 06, 2016 at 04:01 PM: Quote from: luis on Oct 06, 2016 at 11:01 AM
very clean and elegant set-up, superb gears!

happy listening. ;D
Thank you, sir. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 15, 2016 at 03:17 PM: Airing out the listening room. Done every 2-3 days or when the weather is good. Once the soundproofed window-doors are closed, the room is pretty much airtight. A half hour or so of open doors and windows refreshes all the air in the room. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/a20161014_133701%20Copy.jpg)

After a little more than half an hour of open windows, its time to shut them and enjoy the low noise floor. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/a20161014_142925%20Copy.jpg)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Oct 15, 2016 at 08:58 PM: naks, an emotiva xpa 5 driving cm10s :).

how big is the room ?

thanks !
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 15, 2016 at 10:06 PM: Quote from: elco on Oct 15, 2016 at 03:17 PM
Airing out the listening room. Done every 2-3 days or when the weather is good. Once the soundproofed window-doors are closed, the room is pretty much airtight. A half hour or so of open doors and windows refreshes all the air in the room. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/a20161014_133701%20Copy.jpg)

After a little more than half an hour of open windows, its time to shut them and enjoy the low noise floor. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/a20161014_142925%20Copy.jpg)
sarap siguro tambayan nyan chief. Ganda. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 16, 2016 at 08:12 AM: Quote from: elco on Oct 15, 2016 at 03:17 PM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/a20161014_133701%20Copy.jpg)

Looks very refreshing w/ the ajar windows & off course a very well treated room ;)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: gutierrez on Oct 16, 2016 at 02:54 PM: Astig na car audio setup pero mas astig ang home audio, hope you still remember me sir
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 12:03 AM: Quote from: jazzed up on Oct 15, 2016 at 08:58 PM
naks, an emotiva xpa 5 driving cm10s :).

how big is the room ?

thanks !
Hi. The room is small. 14.5 ft long and 11.5 ft wide with an 8 ft ceiling. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 12:07 AM: Quote from: shoktongxxx on Oct 15, 2016 at 10:06 PM
sarap siguro tambayan nyan chief. Ganda. :)
Honestly sir, nakakatulog ako minsan habang nakikinig. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 12:08 AM: Quote from: gutierrez on Oct 16, 2016 at 02:54 PM
Astig na car audio setup pero mas astig ang home audio, hope you still remember me sir
Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 12:11 AM: Quote from: at_sunset_blvd on Oct 16, 2016 at 08:12 AM
Looks very refreshing w/ the ajar windows & off course a very well treated room ;)
Thank you, sir. Most of my listening is done at night after work. Sadly, neighborhood kids playing outside are noisy, so I shut the windows and close the soundproof doors for peace and quiet. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 17, 2016 at 01:16 AM: congrats sir! ganda!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: jjohnc on Oct 17, 2016 at 10:58 AM: welcome to Pinoy DVD Elco...
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 03:19 PM: Quote from: jh@meeh on Oct 17, 2016 at 01:16 AM
congrats sir! ganda!
Salamat po, sir :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 17, 2016 at 03:19 PM: Quote from: jjohnc on Oct 17, 2016 at 10:58 AM
welcome to Pinoy DVD Elco...
Thanks, johnjohn. I've been here since 2011 but as a lurker. I just like to read and learn. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Oct 18, 2016 at 01:42 AM: Tita, have you already tried Rotel matched with your floorstanders?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 18, 2016 at 04:31 PM: Quote from: sientobente on Oct 18, 2016 at 01:42 AM
Tita, have you already tried Rotel matched with your floorstanders?
Not yet, pare.

I chose the Emotiva amp because its the most cost-effective 200wpc amp with XLR balanced inputs. My preamp is 8m away and RCA cables that long will negatively affect the sound, not unless I spend for ultra-high-end cables. Since the Emotiva amp has balanced XLR inputs, I can use DIY cables.

If you have a Rotel amp that you'd like to try, bring long RCA cables. Subukan natin. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Oct 21, 2016 at 07:57 AM: Quote from: elco on Oct 18, 2016 at 04:31 PM
Not yet, pare.

I chose the Emotiva amp because its the most cost-effective 200wpc amp with XLR balanced inputs. My preamp is 8m away and RCA cables that long will negatively affect the sound, not unless I spend for ultra-high-end cables. Since the Emotiva amp has balanced XLR inputs, I can use DIY cables.

If you have a Rotel amp that you'd like to try, bring long RCA cables. Subukan natin. :)

That makes sense Tita. Inaalala ko kung sino yung may Rotel amp dito, si boss Paeng nga ba? Either way, I can borrow one from our favorite suki dealers. Set na ba natin?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Courage on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:21 AM: Quote from: sientobente on Oct 21, 2016 at 07:57 AM
That makes sense Tita. Inaalala ko kung sino yung may Rotel amp dito, si boss Paeng nga ba? Either way, I can borrow one from our favorite suki dealers. Set na ba natin?

Hoy sama ako dyan....
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:09 AM: Quote from: Courage on Oct 21, 2016 at 08:21 AM
Hoy sama ako dyan....
Let's go sister!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:17 AM: pa angkas mga bros! ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:48 AM: Quote from: ninjababez® on Oct 21, 2016 at 09:17 AM
pa angkas mga bros! ;D
Ayun, cubao bros unite! Hahaha!

Let's plan something sa November, kung available si Tita Elco.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:20 PM: Yes, available, mga pare at mare. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: GIJoe on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM: sama din kami ni bro derick ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Oct 22, 2016 at 12:37 AM: Quote from: GIJoe on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:23 PM
sama din kami ni bro derick ;D ;D
Tara!

2nd week ng november? Para may time ako manghiram ng Rotel.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Courage on Oct 22, 2016 at 09:06 AM: Quote from: sientobente on Oct 22, 2016 at 12:37 AM
Tara!

2nd week ng november? Para may time ako manghiram ng Rotel.

GO!!!!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: goldpalm on Oct 22, 2016 at 11:01 AM: eto pala un..
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dom_08 on Oct 24, 2016 at 02:51 PM: Quote from: sientobente on Oct 22, 2016 at 12:37 AM
Tara!

2nd week ng november? Para may time ako manghiram ng Rotel.

hopefully puwede rin ako. SAMA AKO!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: GIJoe on Oct 25, 2016 at 11:01 AM: schedule na yan
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 25, 2016 at 06:30 PM: Game.

By the way, this is how my system is hooked up. My signal cables are 8 meters long. They are balanced XLR instead of RCA to avoid noise. Also, the loudspeakers are bi-amped. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Diagram2%20640.jpg)

If the Rotel is a 2-channel amp, I can modify the speaker cables and make them bi-wire instead of bi-amp. Then just bring long RCA cables and we're in business. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Oct 26, 2016 at 05:04 AM: i really like the cm10 :).
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:25 PM: Quote from: jazzed up on Oct 26, 2016 at 05:04 AM
i really like the cm10 :).

Me too, sir :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:29 PM: Time for a minor update. :)

I purchased Two-dimensional Quadratic Residue Diffusers (2D QRD) from acoustician extrordinaire, renowned system designer and turntable aficionado, Mr. Tony Rodriguez.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/20161027_204622%20640.jpg)

I hate manually screwing things. Power is better. Hahaha.. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_172813%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_172837%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_174256%20640.jpg)

Here they are up on the wall behind the speakers. Sound hitting it gets scattered in a predictable and consistent manner, making the wall seem much further away. Gives expansive depth to well-recorded songs. Easier to hear the singer in front with the band behind. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 28, 2016 at 10:10 PM: Quote from: elco on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:29 PM
Time for a minor update. :)

I purchased Two-dimensional Quadratic Residue Diffusers (2D QRD) from acoustician extrordinaire, renowned system designer and turntable aficionado, Mr. Tony Rodriguez.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/20161027_204622%20640.jpg)

I hate manually screwing things. Power is better. Hahaha.. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_172813%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_172837%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/2D-QRD/a20161028_174256%20640.jpg)

Here they are up on the wall behind the speakers. Sound hitting it gets scattered in a predictable and consistent manner, making the wall seem much further away. Gives expansive depth to well-recorded songs. Easier to hear the singer in front with the band behind. :)
astig chief! nice setup.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Gino on Oct 29, 2016 at 08:46 AM: This room is looking really good. The diffusers optically look diffused too ;)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Nov 07, 2016 at 05:39 PM: hey elco, just got the camrbridge cxn network player hooked up to a pair of psb t2s. pretty good dac a ! very nice live-ish presentation.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Nov 09, 2016 at 01:14 AM: Quote from: jazzed up on Nov 07, 2016 at 05:39 PM
hey elco, just got the camrbridge cxn network player hooked up to a pair of psb t2s. pretty good dac a ! very nice live-ish presentation.
Very nice! Congrats!

How do you have it hooked up to your system?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Nov 09, 2016 at 10:39 AM: via usb in and analog rca out to an integrated.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: disturbed on Nov 09, 2016 at 11:20 AM: ang ganda sir..very nice well planned build..sana mag ka ganyan din ako na room in the future..still remember you during hcp days
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Nov 09, 2016 at 07:00 PM: Quote from: jazzed up on Nov 09, 2016 at 10:39 AM
via usb in and analog rca out to an integrated.
Wait til you hook it up to your network and set up a uPNP server. Then you'll experience the magic of the Cambridge CXN. No more plugging and unplugging USB and no more worrying about USB jitter/noise/etc... :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Nov 09, 2016 at 07:00 PM: Quote from: disturbed on Nov 09, 2016 at 11:20 AM
ang ganda sir..very nice well planned build..sana mag ka ganyan din ako na room in the future..still remember you during hcp days
Salamat po, sir! I'm sure you can set up a better room for yourself. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Nov 09, 2016 at 07:12 PM: good luck with wireless. :).
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: too jazzy cool on Nov 09, 2016 at 07:19 PM: i wouldn't build a system around wireless if there's only one dac. the cxn is more like a once a week or once every two weeks thing rather than a mainstay of my system. i'm sure you are quite happy with your cxn, emotiva, cm10 setup. :).
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Nov 10, 2016 at 01:04 AM: Nope. Definitely not wireless. Even at 802.11AC 5GHz, bandwidth is insufficient for 24/96 streaming, much less DSD64.

In my system, the CXN is wired to a gigabit Ethernet switch via CAT6E cable. The computer running the UPNP server software is also connected to the gigabit switch via CAT6E cable. My SACD rips are stored in the computer and all connections are verified with a gigabit testing device.

In this manner, I am not only able to stream DSD64 quickly and reliably, my wife upstairs can simultaneously stream to the media player unremuxed Bluray rips stored on the same computer.

For high res media streaming, wired is definitely the way to go.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2016 at 05:03 PM: wala pa schedule?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: sientobente on Nov 11, 2016 at 03:56 AM: Quote from: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2016 at 05:03 PM
wala pa schedule?
Sorry Ate, di ako makapagschedule kasi busy sa work. I am taking over an expanded role in the company starting this month. Pati pagpupunas ng mga pinto, table, upuan at linis ng banyo sakop na ng bagong post ko. :P
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: magic. on Dec 02, 2016 at 06:23 PM: well planned and inspiring build...

just like the good old KAC days...
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Dec 06, 2016 at 11:55 AM: Quote from: magic_dvd on Dec 02, 2016 at 06:23 PM
well planned and inspiring build...

just like the good old KAC days...

Thanks, sir! :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Dec 06, 2016 at 11:56 AM: Minor update: DIY cable risers.

Made from retaso MDF that I had lying around. Used a table saw to cut them into shape, then spray painted flat black.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Cable%20Riser/20161205_202724%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Cable%20Riser/20161205_202745%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Cable%20Riser/20161205_211858%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Cable%20Riser/20161205_211910%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Cable%20Riser/20161205_212058%20640.jpg)

Sonic gains? No idea but I'm not optimistic. I'll listen more later. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Dec 06, 2016 at 01:30 PM: Galing mo tlaga boss elco.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Dec 06, 2016 at 01:44 PM: Quote from: vgsison on Dec 06, 2016 at 01:30 PM
Galing mo tlaga boss elco.

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Thanks but I can't take the credit. I got the idea from a Google search. And DIY lang po yan. Hehehe..
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:02 PM: Kelan kaya ipost yung TT setup nitong kaibgan natin?

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:03 PM: Quote from: vgsison on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:02 PM
Kelan kaya ipost yung TT setup nitong kaibgan natin?

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Wow! Meron na?!!!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Dec 14, 2016 at 12:04 PM: Oo daw. Binuko nung esmi. Hehe

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 18, 2016 at 10:18 PM: very nice sir. gusto ko dito mga storage mo.hehehe
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: gerald9974 on Dec 22, 2016 at 10:44 AM: hello where did you purchase the Emotiva Amplifier?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Dec 22, 2016 at 11:07 AM: ^avshop has them.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: laukong on Jan 03, 2017 at 05:37 PM: Hi Elco,

Where did you buy the rock wool and how much per pack? Thanks.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: mbtorn on Jan 03, 2017 at 05:58 PM: Quote from: laukong on Jan 03, 2017 at 05:37 PM
Hi Elco,

Where did you buy the rock wool and how much per pack? Thanks.

Meron for sale sa marketplace:

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,210771.0.html
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: gerald9974 on Jan 04, 2017 at 11:06 AM: Sir, need some advice, notice you use emotiva 5 channel bi amp, mas ok ba to use Emotiva 3 or 5 channel (Bi amp front) for B&W 804 and htm2 center
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: juanderer on Jan 13, 2017 at 10:22 PM: magkano inabot yang ganyang room renovation sir?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dimfer on Jan 14, 2017 at 06:46 PM: wow...great effort, congrats on the very nice room and setup
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Narayan on Jan 16, 2017 at 12:52 PM: Update thread na with the new TT! >:D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: junim23 on Jan 19, 2017 at 03:19 PM: Hi sir elco, where did you get your cambridge gear locally? Thanks!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: Narayan on Jan 19, 2017 at 04:02 PM: Quote from: junim23 on Jan 19, 2017 at 03:19 PM
Hi sir elco, where did you get your cambridge gear locally? Thanks!

Cambridge Audio products are locally distributed by 1 Hi Fi Street located at the 6th level of Shangrila Mall.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: kabomanila on Jan 21, 2017 at 09:14 AM: Nice set up tita elco.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: delinsk on Jan 21, 2017 at 02:00 PM: Wow!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: junim23 on Jan 21, 2017 at 11:09 PM: Quote from: Narayan on Jan 19, 2017 at 04:02 PM
Cambridge Audio products are locally distributed by 1 Hi Fi Street located at the 6th level of Shangrila Mall.

Thanks sir, nice set-up sir elco! Got some ideas for my future build :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: jvincentm3 on Jan 24, 2017 at 03:08 AM: i do not know much about audio but seeing your set up and the room... deym! IMPRESSIVE... BIYOOOTEPUL!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: vgsison on Jan 24, 2017 at 08:37 AM: Wait til u see this thread updated. U will definitely be wowed more.

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:49 PM: Quote from: dimfer on Jan 14, 2017 at 06:46 PM
wow...great effort, congrats on the very nice room and setup
HI Ding. Kumusta? Sensya na di ko talaga kayang bilhin yung sealed LPs mo. Mahal eh. C$485k wow! Haha.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:51 PM: Quote from: gerald9974 on Jan 04, 2017 at 11:06 AM
Sir, need some advice, notice you use emotiva 5 channel bi amp, mas ok ba to use Emotiva 3 or 5 channel (Bi amp front) for B&W 804 and htm2 center
For bi-amp front plus mono center channel, you will need a 5-channel amp. Sakto yung XPA-5. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM: Quote from: juanderer on Jan 13, 2017 at 10:22 PM
magkano inabot yang ganyang room renovation sir?
For the materials alone, umabot po ng almost 185k. Wala pa po yung labor. If including labor, the room is my most expensive audio component. Hehe.. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 23, 2017 at 11:33 PM: @elco

what did you replace your XPA-5 with? ::)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 24, 2017 at 01:02 AM: Quote from: DTNS on Feb 23, 2017 at 11:33 PM
@elco

what did you replace your XPA-5 with? ::)
I didn't. :)

Still using it and loving every minute. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: juanderer on Feb 24, 2017 at 09:31 AM: Quote from: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM
For the materials alone, umabot po ng almost 185k. Wala pa po yung labor. If including labor, the room is my most expensive audio component. Hehe.. :)

thanks gusto ko lang magkaron ng idea how much it will cost to renovate a room this size. eh di mga 350K including labor?
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dimfer on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM: Quote from: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM
For the materials alone, umabot po ng almost 185k. Wala pa po yung labor. If including labor, the room is my most expensive audio component. Hehe.. :)

see, dami pa ng tira sa secret bank account mo

Quote from: elco on Feb 23, 2017 at 10:49 PM
HI Ding. Kumusta? Sensya na di ko talaga kayang bilhin yung sealed LPs mo. Mahal eh. C$485k wow! Haha.. :)

but don't worry, nag-usap na kami ni Roella, sya na daw ang bahala
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 24, 2017 at 06:54 PM: Quote from: juanderer on Feb 24, 2017 at 09:31 AM
thanks gusto ko lang magkaron ng idea how much it will cost to renovate a room this size. eh di mga 350K including labor?
Yes, but you can probably do it for much less than that amount if you are not building a "room within a room." If the dimensions of your existing room are acoustically friendly, then all you need are minor treatments on the walls. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 24, 2017 at 06:54 PM: Quote from: dimfer on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:30 AM
but don't worry, nag-usap na kami ni Roella, sya na daw ang bahala
Bwahaha.. Koya wag! :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 24, 2017 at 07:25 PM: Time for a minor update. I've gone analog. :)

With help from some loving Filipino expats who reside in Singapore, I was able to get a good deal on a turntable. Here are some photos. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170122_214056%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: ClearAudio Performance DC Turntable with custom dust cover. The 40mm thick platter is made from Delrin and is magnetically suspended on a ceramic shaft. Virtually no friction when it spins. A "Quadro Plattenklemme" record weight is on top. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170120_230507%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: "Clarify" tonearm, also from ClearAudio. It also has a magnetic bearing.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170117_205608%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: Ortofon 2M Black. According to reviews, it is a Moving Magnet cartridge that sounds very close to Moving Coil.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170116_220232%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: Power. From left to right, Weiduka AC8.8 sold by Narayan (Boss Obet), PLIXIR Linear Power Supply for the turntable (aftermarket accessory, did not come stock with the turntable), ClearAudio Basic Plus Power Supply for the Phono Preamp.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170116_220210%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: A closer look at the PLIXIR linear power supply. The Turntable came with a 12V wall wart, which uses a switch-mode power circuit. Friends in Singapore commissioned PLIXIR to build a custom linear power supply. Hook up an oscilloscope to the output of a Switch-mode power supply and you will see tiny spikes corresponding to its switching frequency. This can negatively affect the sound. The PLIXIR power supply is linear and is rated at a higher current than the stock ClearAudio wall wart. It produces 12V cleanly, with absolutely no spikes in the output. Net effect, better sound. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170116_220200%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: A closer look at the separate power supply of the ClearAudio Basic Plus Phono Preamp. They manufactured it this way so that whatever tiny amounts of noise and stray magnetic fields it produces can be placed far away from the phono stage itself. This lowers the noise floor and improves the sound. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170117_205802%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: The Phono Preamp itself.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170203_210006%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: The output of the Phono Preamp goes to an input of the Main Preamp.

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170116_232151%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: Turntable setup and cartridge alignment was made easy with the Dr. Feickert protractor. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170120_225916%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: A view of the turntable, amplifier and speakers. :)

Now for some tunes. :)
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Post by: elco on Feb 24, 2017 at 07:26 PM: Some LPs:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170203_214053%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170122_222158%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: Its also nice to compare DSD vs LP vs CD. Train the ears to hear the minute differences. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170212_214017%20640.jpg)

ABOVE: My favorite LP as of now. This one gets a lot of playtime. :)

Some Classical LPs:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170215_211845%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170215_194337%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170220_192257%20640.jpg)

And other LPs I enjoy listening to... :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170222_193119%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170215_202958%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170215_213819%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170221_215021%20640.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/ClearAudio/20170220_183943%20640.jpg)

The last LP actually sounds good. No kidding. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dimfer on Feb 24, 2017 at 08:28 PM: ibang level ka talaga, dapat Idolelco handle mo 😎
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: magic. on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:00 PM: truly eye candies. very elegant, from room build to choice of gears to music collections....

i wonder how the guys in emotiva lounge will react when they see your upgrade ;)
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Feb 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM: ganda! :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Feb 25, 2017 at 10:50 AM: Quote from: dimfer on Feb 24, 2017 at 08:28 PM
ibang level ka talaga, dapat Idolelco handle mo 😎
Oi hinde ah. Ikaw nga idol ko eh! Wanna see the wallpaper on my phone? ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: magic_dvd on Feb 24, 2017 at 10:00 PM
truly eye candies. very elegant, from room build to choice of gears to music collections....

i wonder how the guys in emotiva lounge will react when they see your upgrade ;)
Thank you, sir. Haven't posted it yet, though. :)

Quote from: shoktongxxx on Feb 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM
ganda! :)
Salamat po! :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: dimfer on Feb 25, 2017 at 12:29 PM: si Justice Secretary yun
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: DTNS on Feb 26, 2017 at 09:35 PM: Quote from: dimfer on Feb 24, 2017 at 08:28 PM
ibang level ka talaga, dapat Idolelco handle mo 😎

mali! dapat "Madam Elco" :-* ;D
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build
Post by: elco on Apr 07, 2017 at 11:50 AM: Minor updates:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Updates/20170401_213921%20800.jpg)

RCA cable from Phono preamp to preamp. What you see is the back of the preamp. This is an excellent cable. Major improvements in space, air and soundstaging. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Updates/20170401_135358%20800.jpg)

Lots of fingerprints dahil atat ikabit at pakinggan. Hehe.. Shunyata PS8 with Venom HC power cord and Defender noise isolator/surge protector. Very effective. Massive improvement in soundstaging, imaging and focus. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Updates/20170401_135433%20800.jpg)

A closer view of the Shunyata Venom Defender noise isolator/surge protector, plugged into the first socket. Other power cords c/o @Narayan. :)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/co_leonard/ListeningRoom/Updates/20170403_123718%20Copy.jpg)

Airing out the listening room. Gaps common in sliding windows allow outside noise to come in. Additional airtight doors keep it out. Opening them for a few minutes each day refreshes the air. Fart goes out, fresh air comes in. :)
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: CARLITOCOOL on May 15, 2017 at 03:55 PM: wow nice setup bro Elco. .

its me Lucky of HCP 😊

welcome to the Ht gallery and congrats on your outstanding setup!

Pa Audi minsan 😊
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 16, 2017 at 12:24 PM: I had the opportunity to visit Elco's place last Saturday. Definitely jawdropping interior and SQ. This room is something only mere mortals like me can only dream of. Everything is well thought off from acoustic treatment, cable & gears management and placement to the size and shape of the room. But it doesn't end there. This would prove that a carefully planned room will definitely produce good quality music.

To my preference this would be one hell of a system for reference. Tonality is superb. The highs are not ear piercing even at above moderate levels. The mids are normally forward and very natural. The lows gives proper weight to the music. Never boomy at all. This may not appeal to some but for me, It's how it should be. And oh, the dynamics! Those massive Emotivas made me tap my feet. I'm sure someone would regret selling them. ;D Imaging is spot on, life size with reference to room width. Very seldom do I hear a room that naturally produces images that are beyond the left and right speaker boundaries evenly spaced. This is a place where you can enjoy the system and the music as well.

Thank you for allowing me to visit your mancave. My family enjoyed our short stay.
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: deo on Dec 20, 2017 at 07:42 PM: Lodi Leonard, is it just me or hindi nag lo-load ung mga photos? :-/ Anyway, nakita ko naman na sa AP :P
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: Superman on Feb 15, 2018 at 08:17 AM: Happy Birthday, Elco! Have a good one!
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 15, 2018 at 03:09 PM: Happy Valentine's Day and happy birthday!

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Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: dimfer on Feb 17, 2018 at 11:45 AM: Happy Birthday Idol
Title: Re: Elco's Listening Room Build (Updates on Page 5)
Post by: dimfer. on Nov 17, 2018 at 01:19 PM: this thread severely need updating