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Title: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lomi on May 08, 2001 at 06:33 AM
I have just receive my dvd orders from amazon, the  box contains 5 dvd titles and cost about $135.  Before I went to post office to claim my order, I knew the customs will hold and charge me with a penalty because I read some members of this forum about their experiences with ordering "too much".  After the customs official computed the penalty charge, he said that i need to pay P2,400 to get my worthy dvds (this is too much! I could buy 2 dvd with this fine!).  But after much talk and negotiations, he accepts my offer to give him 1000 pesos in exchange with the fine.

Here's my question:
Is there any quota from ordering dvds?  A lot of my friends telling me that it is ok to order as many as you can but not to exceed $500.
How do they compute for the penalty charge?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: dvdfan on May 08, 2001 at 11:56 AM
I am not sure on the penalty charge. But I think taxes are 10% + 10% VAT.

From what I compute in your purchase you averaged 1,550 / DVD title. That is slightly higher than the local price of DVDs here.

I do not like to order from the USA anymore as the cost is the same and without the hassle of dealing with customs officials.

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on May 08, 2001 at 11:15 PM
Lomi, I presume that you selected worldmail as your shipping option. If the original customs fee was P2,400, then it would be much cheaper to have the merchandise shipped via DHL (International Priority). For a 5 DVD purchase, the shipping cost difference is around $17 an at an exchange rate of P50 : $1, the difference is less than P1000. Mabilis pa dumating (door to door), you can track pa the shipment.

In fact, I have a pending shipment from Amazon. To my surprise when I checked the account status, I forgot to put back the priority shipping option kaya it was shipped via worldmail (deutch post). Hindi ko na nahabol kaya I have 7-26 days to wait for the shipment. I just hope the customs charge is not too much when I receive the postal advice that the shipment arrives.  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lomi on May 09, 2001 at 04:10 AM
thanks dvdfan and viper for the reply!

Yes, I have selected worldmail as my shipping option, this is my 4th order from amazon and i tought that it will saved me some money coz int'l priority shipping cost is very expensive.  Well I'm wrong, i should have selected int'l priority (less hassles, mabilis pa!).  Sayang, kung nauna ko sanang nalaman dito sa PinoyDVD yung mga testimonials nila tungkol sa worldmail and customs, di na siguro ako nag-worldmail (sigh, its too late to change my shipping options kasi na-ship na).  But on the other hand, buti na lang may PinoyDVD, para babalain ang mga kapwa Pinoy dvd enthusiast natin tungkol sa customs kapag bumibili sila sa internet ng dvd.  PinoyDVD is the best!!!

My first 3 orders from amazon contains more than 5 dvd titles per order and some are mixed with some audio cds, all are shipped on int'l shipping with no problems.  This is my first time to order 5 dvd titles thru worldmail (wrong move pala!).  if you are wondering why i buy dvds on amazon, it is because i buy anime dvd, taga kasi magbenta ang shops dito sa pinas ng anime dvd.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: green_archer on May 09, 2001 at 06:08 AM
Shipping via international priority is not an assurance that you will be saved from customs charges. I received an order last December with about 7 discs from Amazon sent via international priority (DHL) with a value of about  142.00 dollars. I was charged by DHL with a 1700.00 customs charge! It's a good thing that customs officials can be bribed but DHL people cannot! The weird thing is that I used to ship via international priority before and I wasn't charged for anything. Last December was the first time I was charged. The DHL people also cannot explain this. In the end I have to pay up or else DHL would not have released my dvds. Before, without the taxes and even with the more expensive international priority shipping, an average dvd I purchased from Amazon would total about 1000-1200 bucks, but last December, my average purchase amounted to 1550.00 per discs. Now  I just buy from my friendly importer which average about 1450-1500.00 per disc. Basically just the same with no hassle for anything anymore.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on May 09, 2001 at 11:08 AM
green_archer is right; shipping via Priority is not an assurance you won't pay customs fees.  For one package (valued at $60) I received via Priority, I was charged about 1,200 pesos for customs fees/taxes by the DHL delivery guy. He even had the receipt printed out already, so I had no choice but to pay.  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on May 09, 2001 at 06:58 PM
???


Benny, was your $60 item composed of DVDs (or CDs/VHS)? I am very much surprised by this info thus I reviewed my amazon purchases for this year to dig deeper into this customs charges. Last month I made a purchase worth $118.43 comprising 4 DVDs and 3 VHSs. The shipping cost amounted to $56.85 via DHL priority. Like previous purchases, the delivery was made without any extra charges (unlike when UPS delivers my packages like star trek ccgs, there are customs charges)

I am really at a loss why DHL does not charge me customs fees even when my purchases exceeded $100. Although I had the packages delivered to my office, I doubt if the shipping address is the reason why no customs fees are levied. Our messengers never mentioned paying any duties nor the company charges me for any customs fees advanced. Unless, of course, DHL considers my former office as a 'good' client that they forego customs charges but this is highly irregular.

I just hope that I will not be charged on the latest priority shipment I ordered but to be delivered in another office address :(

Otherwise, I may have to cut down on my amazoning ways.

or

I will have my succeeding orders delivered to my old office for subsequent pick up just like before. Baka hindi pa ubos ang suwerte!   ;)

or

I will limit my orders to under $120 to avoid extra charges (but Benny's item was $60 and he got charges ??? )

Anyway, I'll ask our Liaison Officer for Customs what is really the basis in law. I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on May 09, 2001 at 07:12 PM
viper --- my package contained 3 dvd titles only (though one was Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Collection 95-98 - double discs, so there were actually 4 discs ;))

As DVDgurl has mentioned in another thread, your address can be a factor - Makati addresses seem less prone to customs fees, so maybe in your case, office addresses are less prone too.  

I guess I was just unlucky  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs:  NO BRIBE PLEASE
Post by: saling-pusa on May 09, 2001 at 10:18 PM
Why not check the legal rate of custom charges, para may guidelines..? Looks like the testimonials are too personal and payment of fees depends on the whims and caprice of custom officials. Offering bribe should never be encouraged! :P
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: GENDEMMIT on May 10, 2001 at 12:31 AM
Yeah, I totally agree.  But discouraging it and getting things done in the real world are two different things.  This is the Philippines, after all, and like it or not, here, LAGAY is king.  And not until we actually see some REALLY big fish get taken down for bribery, nothing will change.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: MyUSmailbox.com on May 10, 2001 at 11:30 PM
DO you guys want to avoid the customs Headache? Then, we are your solution! Just order any DVD you like in the US, then ship it to your USA address (that we will provide) and we will take care of the rest - forward to Manila by Air or Sea, clear through customs and ready for pick-up in our Makati store or deliver to your house or office (if applicable).

Costs? Depending on weight and package size but based on previous shipping transactions with our DVD-buyer/clients, it's about $2.50 by Sea (45-60 days) or $5.00 (7 days) by Air per Piece. No need to maximize the minimum weight since we charge on a Pro-Rata basis.

For more info, visit us online at www.MyUSmailbox.com or better yet, call us up and we would fax you the forms and explain in detail our e-commerce services at 893-6655 / 6688.

Best,
Randy
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Komikero on May 11, 2001 at 02:13 AM
Sounds like a very interesing service, Randy! And I wouldn't mind using it. I do have a question though. Online retailers like Amazon usually deliver to street addresses and not to mailboxes. Have you gotten around this problem?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: MyUSmailbox.com on May 11, 2001 at 06:21 AM
Hi Komikero,

We provide a real postal street address (our US offices). What makes the address unique to the subscriber is its personal account number that goes with the postal address. We process an average of 10,000 mails & packagesa day for more than 20+ countries which include a lot of Amazon parcels.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on May 23, 2001 at 07:33 AM
Just had my UsMailBox activated. And placed an order at Amazon selecting standard shipping (3-7 business days) to be delivered to the US address. Total amount is less than $100. I'll see how long does it take to be delivered.

I still have a pending order from Amazon which was placed last April 30. I have mistakenly placed worldmail as the shipping option hence I am still waiting for the advice from our very efficient post office.

Maybe its better to forget na lang the order and be surprised when the postal advice arrives charging me custom fees  :'(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: groucho on Jul 12, 2001 at 06:02 AM
Viper,

Hi! Just got registered with pinoydvd today and am still basically just learning the ropes.  Came across this thread and got particularly intrigued.

Pero bitin!  The last post is dated 5/22/01.  Just when the story was getting very interesting, no other replies were submitted. :( >:( :(

Mahirap abangan ang susunod na kabanata.  Anong nangyari sa order mo through myusmailbox?  Dumating ba?  How much did you have to pay?  Was myusmailbox as good as it is thought to be?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Krazyfu_tangerine on Jul 12, 2001 at 07:48 AM
My order from amazon arrived 2 days ago, and i had to go to the post office to pick it up, my package cost $90, the lady in the customs dept. didn't even look at the slip, she just said 20pesos. gave her the 20 and im on my way. i have ordered 3 times already this way since "99" and its always the same thing 20 pesos pls. and im on my way. :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jul 12, 2001 at 08:35 AM
I am really interested to know which post office branch this is.  ???
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jul 12, 2001 at 08:39 AM
I really want to know which post office branch this is. Is it Ortigas?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: radzeykimosabi on Oct 06, 2001 at 10:28 AM
Hello guys,
Gusto ko rin ishare sa inyo ang mga experiences ko regarding this custom taxes/charges. First sa DHL, when i ordered 9 dvd's from amazon i paid almost P2000 for duty tax last month, nakakapagtaka kasi before pa wala naman akong binabayaran kahit na umabot ng 6 dvd's yung item ko, then all of a sudden wham!!!Sabi ng guy na laging nagdedeliver sa bahay sa tingin nya raw eh dahil sa accumulated value ng order na umabot ng $200 kaya suggest nya na limit my order below $100. Pero mukhang napaka inconsistent ng DHL regarding this taxes dahil mayron pa rin nagta-tax kahit below $100 at minsan wala nga. Smells fishy, baka may anomalya di ba? Tingin ko mas maganda pa sa FEDEX kaya lang di naman courier ng Amazon, sa maniwala kayo't hindi nung bumili ako ng receiver thru ebay, pinadala nung seller by fedex and when my package arrived at their facility tinawagan ko agad sabi may tax daw ako worth P7000, sabi ko cge COD na lang. And guess what my brother received the package for me at wala syang binayaran kahit Piso, siguro swerte lang ako, pero imposible since electronics ito at napakalaki pa ng box.

Kaya ngayon pag umorder ako ng DVD sa amazon standard shipping na lang or expedited  at P20 lang ang bayad regardless kahit na 10 pa. Dito bumabagsak sa Alabang Post Office sa dami nga ng mga packages ko kilala na ko ng clerk na babae di ko na kailangan magpakita ng ID, binabati pa ko sa pangalan ko.

Kung gusto nyong makalibre sa tax using standard shipping or expedited sa Amazon pwede nyo kong tawagan para ipagamit ko sa inyo yung add ko. Ipa care of nyo sa pangalan ko then sabay natin pick-up in sa post office, wag kayo mag-alala siguradong marereceive nyo yung order nyo PINOYDVD member yata tayo, yun eh kung gusto nyo lang at handa akong tumulong sa inyong mga KAPATID NA PINOYDVD member.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xlr8 on Oct 06, 2001 at 10:51 AM
I'd like to share my experience too!

I've been ordering online also but I never get the ax of customs tax whenever I get my package from the post-office. I always use the standard international shipping, that's why I only get to pay the P20.00 inspection fee for every package that arrives for me.

My dvd's from TAU Canada usually arrive in 7 to 10 days, just a few days later if they were shipped via DHL or Fedex. I'd rather wait for a few more days than pay the monstrous tax for a faster arrival of my dvd's.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Oct 06, 2001 at 11:11 AM
radzeykimosabi, salamat at ng offer ka. Matagal na akong naghahanap ng alternative sa Las Pinas post office ko since almost always nata-tax ako. Ok lang kung one dvd lang, walang tax. Pero yung past orders ko with 2 or more dvds, 90% of the time, nata-tax ako  :(  OK lang ba if I'll take you up on your offer? As of now walang akong packages arriving to my address; may mga preorders lang pero Nov at Dec pa ang release. Siguro kung may "big" order ako, I'll ask you for the favor. What do you think?

xlr8, ikaw talaga - suwerte ka!  :) Mas mabilis yung packages mo at walang pang tax.

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xlr8 on Oct 06, 2001 at 11:21 AM

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radzeykimosabi, salamat at ng offer ka. Matagal na akong naghahanap ng alternative sa Las Pinas post office ko since almost always nata-tax ako. Ok lang kung one dvd lang, walang tax. Pero yung past orders ko with 2 or more dvds, 90% of the time, nata-tax ako  :(  OK lang ba if I'll take you up on your offer? As of now walang akong packages arriving to my address; may mga preorders lang pero Nov at Dec pa ang release. Siguro kung may "big" order ako, I'll ask you for the favor. What do you think?

xlr8, ikaw talaga - suwerte ka!  :) Mas mabilis yung packages mo at walang pang tax.




Benny, I'll let you use my address too, if you want. Alam mo bang "sweetheart" na ang tawag sa akin ng manang na in-charge sa mga packages ko sa post office. Inggitin pa  kita, my TAU order shipped Sept 26 arrived Oct 2. hehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Oct 06, 2001 at 11:47 AM
xlr8, thanks! sana lang malapit ka nakatira  :) Anyway, ok pa rin yun kahit medyo malayo basta wala lang tax! Hahaha...

I'll send you a pm.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: radzeykimosabi on Oct 06, 2001 at 03:40 PM

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radzeykimosabi, salamat at ng offer ka. Matagal na akong naghahanap ng alternative sa Las Pinas post office ko since almost always nata-tax ako. Ok lang kung one dvd lang, walang tax. Pero yung past orders ko with 2 or more dvds, 90% of the time, nata-tax ako  :(  OK lang ba if I'll take you up on your offer? As of now walang akong packages arriving to my address; may mga preorders lang pero Nov at Dec pa ang release. Siguro kung may "big" order ako, I'll ask you for the favor. What do you think?

xlr8, ikaw talaga - suwerte ka!  :) Mas mabilis yung packages mo at walang pang tax.



Okay Benny no problem basta inform mo lang ako pag may parating kang order. I'll give you my add and cel # by PM sabihin mo lang.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Oct 06, 2001 at 04:30 PM

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Viper,

Hi! Just got registered with pinoydvd today and am still basically just learning the ropes.  Came across this thread and got particularly intrigued.

Pero bitin!  The last post is dated 5/22/01.  Just when the story was getting very interesting, no other replies were submitted. :( >:( :(

Mahirap abangan ang susunod na kabanata.  Anong nangyari sa order mo through myusmailbox?  Dumating ba?  How much did you have to pay?  Was myusmailbox as good as it is thought to be?



Groucho,

Muchas dispensas for the very late reply. Ngayon ko lang nakita yung post  :( :(

Anyway, unless you have seen in other threads, I was able to receive my shipments via myUSmailbox promptly and with no taxes levied to date. Also, you might have noticed that levying of taxes is very inconsistent  since one postal office would  just charge storage fees of P20 (like XLR8)while others (i.e. postal office near BIR main in East Triangle) would never miss charging you an arm and a leg for DVD shipments as in Benny's.

My impression here is that the inconsistency is due to the absence (incompetence?) of customs reps in the post offices/courier service providers. In the post office near BIR, the customs rep is present and very efficient in determining which is taxable and which is not! While the post office of XLR8 may not have a customs rep at all! (maybe due to the fact that the only parcels/packages recevied by that office is XLR8's  ;D ;D )

For DHL, maybe the delivery address is a factor if you will be taxed or not. I am sure that being a courier service provider, there is a resident customs representative assigned to them. My international priority DVD shipments to my former office in Benpres Bldg, Ortigas Center was never taxed while Benny's DHL shipments delivered to his address (residential?) got taxed.

I had four shipments via myUSmailbox delivered to another former office address in Diliman and was never taxed. One pending shipment, though, valued at approx P8,000 is yet to be delivered to my residential address here in Tondo. I just hoped that I don't get taxed this time.
:-/
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: brain1976 on Oct 07, 2001 at 04:46 AM
I too would like to share an odd expereience with the post office. I ordered 5 DVDs from Amazon and had them sent by standard shipping. They seperated my order into two shipments of 2 DVDs and 3 DVDs. The first one that arrived was the last one they shipped (3 DVDs) and when I picked it up at the post office I got charged 1,600++! I played dumb that I didn't know about the whole tax thing they dropped it to 1,000 and they even gave me receipt. I then asked if they had another package there since I'm supposed to have two. They looked for it and it wasn't there. A week later I received a notice regarding a package I have to pick up and when I picked up this pakagae of 2 DVDs I was only charged the 20 pesos parcel fee. No tax. Same guy. Same post office? It's kinda weird.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Oct 07, 2001 at 11:06 AM
radzeykimosabi - Hey, thanks! I'll just contact you when the need arises. I really appreciate it. Bilib talaga ako dito sa pinoydvd - ang bait ng mga tao!  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xlr8 on Oct 07, 2001 at 11:24 PM

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My impression here is that the inconsistency is due to the absence (incompetence?) of customs reps in the post offices/courier service providers. In the post office near BIR, the customs rep is present and very efficient in determining which is taxable and which is not! While the post office of XLR8 may not have a customs rep at all! (maybe due to the fact that the only parcels/packages recevied by that office is XLR8's  ;D ;D )



Groucho,

Tama ka at wala ngang taga-customs sa post office namin. Pero meron din ako doon nakikita na mga kahon galing sa barnes & noble at amazon. At mas malalaki pa ang mga kahon nila kaysa sa akin.  ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Oct 13, 2001 at 10:16 AM
Parang pinag-iinitan ng Customs ang mga packages ng amazon.com na pinapadala through DHL (Priority International Courier: 2-4 business days).

My order was delivered today by DHL.  Amazon shipped it in 2 packages:

Package 1 contained a $30.00 DVD.  Customs charges me P 833 for it:  P 228 customs duties + P 355 compensating tax + P 250 import processing fee.

Package 2 contained a DVD costing $18.74.  Customs charges me a P 250 import processing fee.

Damn!  Dati wala naman yan ah!  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

Grabe!  Shucks.  Maybe we should all shift to Expedited International Shipping: 5 - 9 business days.


Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: kings5504 on Oct 13, 2001 at 05:02 PM
tsk tsk tsk... my package arrived yesterday and i was notified that i will have to pay 3k pesos for a package worth $200...  that's almost 30%!!!!   >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

like you, kahon, i guess i'm switching to expedited international shipping next time...  grrrrrr.....
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Komikero on Oct 13, 2001 at 06:30 PM
Bad trip ano? A have an Amazon shipment arriving soon that will most likely cost me almost 1000 pesos in taxes. I wrote to Amazon that it will be my last order in the meantime because this tax thing is really killing me. It's not Amazon's fault, I told them that, but this is just too much.  I'm looking into alternative ways of ordering abroad.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Oct 13, 2001 at 07:33 PM

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Bad trip ano? A have an Amazon shipment arriving soon that will most likely cost me almost 1000 pesos in taxes. I wrote to Amazon that it will be my last order in the meantime because this tax thing is really killing me. It's not Amazon's fault, I told them that, but this is just too much.  I'm looking into alternative ways of ordering abroad.


Hi Komikero, I feel your pain!  I wonder if this is just DHL or does it happen if your courier is Fedex or UPS as well?

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: groucho on Oct 14, 2001 at 08:41 AM
viper and xl48,

I have come to the conclusion that while there are standard rules the Philippine Customs imposes on dutiable goods at the post office, the actual implementation depends on 1) whether a customs official is present in the post office, 2) the mood of the customs official, and 3) the bulk of goods that are being delivered.  That is why there is no uniform rate at which our orders are taxed.  That is why some of us get away with just having to pay 20 p's with just a cute little smile whereas others have to shell out a couple of thousand bucks just to get their merchandise.  (I don't know if I have mentioned that I have a friend who actually orders whole radio-controlled airplane kits through the Net, and is never charged anything for it at the Post Office. But knowing my luck, I probably would have to shell out so much money had I been the one who ordered the very same thing.)

I would like to think that this is unfair.  But then again, if these idiots want to work that way, then we may as well try to outsmart them and get around their exploitative ways.  I suggest that we come out with a list of good post offices (those that don't charge taxes), and bad post offices (those that have usurpers as customs officials).  That way, we may eventually find a mailing address that will suit our purposes.

Let me start: don't get your stuff mailed to the Central Post Office in Mandaluyong (Municipio).  They've got a vulture there lurking in the darkness.

On the other hand, my friend gets his radio-controlled airplanes delivered via the Makati Central Post Office (on Buendia) for a song.

Ergo:
Good bet:
1. Makati CPO

Bad bet:
1. Mandaluyong CPO

I enjoin everybody to contribute to our lists.  Then we can try them out.
;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Oct 14, 2001 at 09:12 AM
Just read from the PDI this morning that the Bureau of Customs have exceeded their collection targets. Does this mean that BOC is getting more efficient in levying those taxes particularly our DVD purchases from Amazon?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the items i bought from amazom (total 13 titles + 1 cd) shipped via myusmailbox would escape the BOC's wrath!   :( :( :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Oct 25, 2001 at 07:08 AM
Whew! Already  recieved my 8 DVDs from Amazon via myUSmailbox.

No taxes!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: RyanFelipe on Oct 28, 2001 at 12:09 AM
Wow...thats really cool...what carried did the myusmailbox use to get in ur place?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Oct 28, 2001 at 03:29 AM

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Wow...thats really cool...what carried did the myusmailbox use to get in ur place?


I think they have their own freight forwarder which ships all myUSmailbox packages from the states by bulk and is received in their makati office. Then i opted for the door to door delivery option hence for an additional $2 they ship it from makati to my manila residence. However, shipping through the postal office is still much cheaper but with the customs axe hanging (and with the reputation of our postal system 'losing' packages especially during this christmas time), my personal opinion is myUSmailbox is the most cost effective for me compared to expedited international shipping via DHL for my amazon purchases. Tiyagaan lang ang paghintay ng 3-4 weeks (kasi iniipon pa yung maraming package sa merica), sigurado namang darating.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Oct 29, 2001 at 10:53 AM
Bad bet: Las Piñas CPO  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Warsaw on Nov 01, 2001 at 01:15 AM
Related to this post, I have a question, you guys might know the answer:

I am currently in the States and had a buying spree of cheap DVD's.  So far I purchased about 15.  Will I be taxed at the airport when I get home?

If ever, how much?

Is there anything I can do to avoid this?  I mean this is all for personal use and not for business.

Thanks
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Nov 01, 2001 at 03:35 AM

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Related to this post, I have a question, you guys might know the answer:

I am currently in the States and had a buying spree of cheap DVD's.  So far I purchased about 15.  Will I be taxed at the airport when I get home?

If ever, how much?

Is there anything I can do to avoid this?  I mean this is all for personal use and not for business.

Thanks


Just don't call attention to the dvds.  take them out of the plastic wrap.  don't keep them all at one place.  if the custom inspector sees them, tell him/her they're used and you bought them second hand.  don't keep any receipts of the dvds.   ;)  
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Nov 01, 2001 at 05:13 AM
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Just don't call attention to the dvds.  take them out of the plastic wrap.  don't keep them all at one place.  if the custom inspector sees them, tell him/her they're used and you bought them second hand.  don't keep any receipts of the dvds.   ;)  


In short (ika-11 utos) wag kang pahuhuli!


;D ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Warsaw on Nov 01, 2001 at 12:50 PM
Will Do, thanks for the tip guys
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Dozer on Nov 07, 2001 at 07:15 AM
My experience:

Fedex $162.27 tax sa akin P863.00
DHL $232.32 tax sa akin P3041.00 :o
DHL $170.00 tax sa akin P2800.00 >:(
WorldMail $22.00 tax sa akin P20.00
WorldMail $19.00 tax sa akin P556.00 "X" kasi daw! :'(
WorldMail $45.00 tax sa akin P20.00 + lagay P100.00 ;)

DHL -  Sabi sa akin all package ay dumadaan sa custom.
Fedex - Minalas lang ata ako, pero mura lang naman ang charge... Send it as a gift, wala TAX!
WorldMail - Chambahan lang!

Hirap naman ng buhay!
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Spartacus on Nov 08, 2001 at 12:12 AM
Just got back from the Parañaque post office to pick up a two disc order from Amazon. No tax. They didn't even open the package.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: ZEPHYR on Nov 08, 2001 at 01:07 AM

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Just got back from the Parañaque post office to pick up a two disc order from Amazon. No tax. They didn't even open the package.


Baka takot na rin ma-Anthrax sa packaging. He he he .. ;D  
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Paltik on Nov 09, 2001 at 05:19 AM
??? I am as intrigued as Mr. Marx there. Ive just registered today with pinoy DVD and might hook up with MyUSmailbox since it sounds great and all i ever heard are good remarks about it. Anyway, i also regularly order at amazon and noticed that i dont get charged with customs by DHL too. I live in ayala alabang and have never paid any customs charge , except for one time i ordered a shotgun scope mount which ended up in las pinas  ??? . They say las pinas has customs but alabang PO does not, weird. Pls continue your story viper...
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Nov 09, 2001 at 08:46 AM
Which story?  ??? ???

Anyway, I still have two amazon orders on its way to my residence in 4 separate shipments.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Paltik on Nov 10, 2001 at 02:33 AM
OMG , my bad, I was probably too sleepy when I wrote that ,I didn't notice that there were four pages on the topic. Sorry for the confusion viper. When I said Mr.Marx, I was referring to Groucho on the 1st page.

Anyway, it really helps a bunch to read these experiences here. Why don't we add a topic which incorporates all the possible "tax-less" Post Offices in Metro Manila. That way, we can keep track of which PO's to avoid and use relatives addresses instead in order to avoid the levied taxes.

BTW Ayala Alabang Post Office is  ;D (recommended)
   Las Pinas Post Office is  >:(  (avoid it by all means)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Nov 10, 2001 at 12:46 PM
OK, I see.

In a nutshell, all my orders shipped via myUSmail weren't taxed (so far) although the shipping fees is more expensive compared to worldmail, the shipping fees are comparable to international priority (courier) but i believe a little bit cheaper.

In all my DVD orders via different shipping options, I was only taxed once (and outrageously at that) when I mistakenly selected the international mail option and the order landed in a QC Postal Office at near NIA in EDSA, Diliman.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: sleepy on Nov 16, 2001 at 02:43 AM
Does anyone know if Pasig Post Office is a good bet?  ::)

I just had a bad experience with the Mandaluyong PO. I was charged P1400 for $67 purchase.  :'( :'(

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OMG , my bad, I was probably too sleepy when I wrote that ,I didn't notice that there were four pages on the topic. Sorry for the confusion viper. When I said Mr.Marx, I was referring to Groucho on the 1st page.

Anyway, it really helps a bunch to read these experiences here. Why don't we add a topic which incorporates all the possible "tax-less" Post Offices in Metro Manila. That way, we can keep track of which PO's to avoid and use relatives addresses instead in order to avoid the levied taxes.

BTW Ayala Alabang Post Office is  ;D (recommended)
   Las Pinas Post Office is  >:(  (avoid it by all means)

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Nov 16, 2001 at 03:01 AM

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Does anyone know if Pasig Post Office is a good bet?  ::)

I just had a bad experience with the Mandaluyong PO. I was charged P1400 for $67 purchase.  :'( :'(




I have some packages coming to me through the Pasig Central Post office.  I'll tell you what happens.  Last time something was delivered to me I just paid P20.00 on a shipment worth $24.00.

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: GENDEMMIT on Nov 16, 2001 at 03:47 AM
  Nakatatlong pick-up na ako sa Pasig P.O.  A few DVD's, and a VHS tape.  In all 3 instances, palaging 20 peso handling fee lang ang binabayaran ko.  
  But just to be on the safe side, keep your packages to a minimum of 2 or 3.  Baka iba na ang usapan pag maramihan na, e.  
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: downtown on Nov 16, 2001 at 10:28 PM
I used to send my packages to a P.O. Box in UN, where my bro-in law's brother knows the people. I was not charged except the 20 fee each for my 4 or 5 boxes from Amazon but recently there was a shuffling of personnel. I was charged 800+ for 3 discs i received recently bec. i could not stop the orders since they've been sent already.
i tried to send a package to my address here in davao, sana walang tax.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Nov 24, 2001 at 05:00 AM

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I have some packages coming to me through the Pasig Central Post office.  I'll tell you what happens.  Last time something was delivered to me I just paid P20.00 on a shipment worth $24.00.




Ok, my amazon.com package valued at $51.41 just arrived after nearly a month from the time it was sent.  I picked it up from the Pasig Central Post office and all I had to pay was P 20.00.   ;D  :P
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: GENDEMMIT on Nov 24, 2001 at 05:26 AM
  Mabuhay ang Pasig Post Office!  Come to think of it, wala pa yatang nadadale sa Pasig P.O. dito sa pinoydvd, a.
Bakit kaya?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: R1DVD on Nov 24, 2001 at 06:43 AM
I don't know if this will help.  When you pick up your orders from the PO, try to be at the PO a few minutes before they open (before 8 am). Usually the customs officer are late in arriving.  So whenever I get my order and there's no customs officers around, they don't bother opening the package.  Minsan sinasabihan pa nga ako na "maswerte ka at wala pa ang customs officer".  That way, I have avoided being taxed for my dvd orders (for the past 2 years).  Probably it also helps na kilala na ako ng naka-duty doon since lagi akong nagpipick-up ng package.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: mic_09 on Nov 24, 2001 at 07:05 AM
i claimed my pre-ordered ultimate jordan 2 disc dvd package last nov 14 at the San Juan PO. I ordered it last Oct 19 at Amazon. It cost me $26.xx together with shipping and handling. Just paid 20 pesos for the package. :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Nov 24, 2001 at 03:24 PM

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I don't know if this will help.  When you pick up your orders from the PO, try to be at the PO a few minutes before they open (before 8 am). Usually the customs officer are late in arriving.  ...


Hey, that's a good tip. I'll try it this Monday when I pick up a package. Thanks!  :) If it comes down to it, I'll bring a friend along as a "look out."  If he sees the customs officer approaching, he'll intercept the officer and chat him up, ask him a lot of innocent questions to further delay him.  ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pioneer on Nov 24, 2001 at 05:05 PM
When you are picking up orders from abroad sa Post Office, especially sa Makati, wear ORDINARY CLOTHES. Dati nung me kinuha akong items na inorder ko sa Amazon, I went there na naka office attire. Siningil ako ng P2000+ ng customs. Nung paalis ako me lumapit sa akin at sinabi na kausapin mo yung isang tao sa loob baka maibaba yun charge sa yo. Nung kinausap ko yung tao, tinanong niya kung magkano amg laman ng wallet ko. I showed him P600 and he took it.

Well, I don't give a damn kung nag-contribute ako sa katarantaduhan ng gobyerno natin, P600 is really different from P2000+.

One of my officemates wore a basic weekend attire when he picked up his Amazon items there -- no charges were given to him by customs.

Sa Caloocan Post Office walang customs charges. P20 lang ang babayaran mo for Postal Service Fee.

Teka...baka me mga taga-customs dito na makabasa nitoing thread na ito (careful, careful)

Mabuhay ang Pilipinas !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: R1DVD on Nov 24, 2001 at 05:52 PM
2 years ago, when I was still ordering from Reel.com (now bancrupt), my packages used to be delivered directly to our house like regular mail.  Every once in a while, I would receive a parcel notice for me to pick-up certain packages ( when order contains >1 dvd).  But then, that was 2 years ago, at hindi pa siguro familiar ang customs officials sa dvd kaya pinalulusot.  Now that marami na umoorder from the web, I think nakahalata na rin sila, and they're more vigilant.  Reel.com uses a more compact box which exactly fits a dvd so maliit lang ang package.  Nowadays, I order from TAU which uses a big box (even for just 1 dvd) so I always end up picking up the package from the PO.  Fortunately, my technique of going to the PO early works for me.  Im not familiar na with the box which amazon uses.  I remember ordering dvds from them in the past and I think they also have a big box (plus the label amazon.com which alerts the customs officer that the package is most likely taxable).  Last month, I ordered ultimate jordan from cdnow, and was surprised that again, it was delivered directly to our house like regular mail.  Box is also compact (like the box barnesandnoble.com uses for their books) and only a small label of cdnow.  Again, the bottomline is try to order only 1 dvd/order.  If you want to order a lot of dvds and want to save on shipping, order from stores which deliver dvd as they become available (at no extra cost) like TAU, cdnow.  Amazon would ship orders when all dvds in the order are already available, and the very conspicuous label of amazon.com puts you at risk of being taxed.  Probably, one can start a thread wherein we can list the type of box/packaging that different dvd etailers uses for dvd orders.  The smaller, the better.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: da_patriot on Nov 30, 2001 at 06:46 PM
hi to all,

   I'm just new here at pinoydvd!: :) Does anyone have any bad experience with the Marikina Central Post Office (tax above 20php?)?
I plan to buy dvds from us online (amazon?! perhaps!) via international shipping...

regards,
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: neo on Nov 30, 2001 at 09:52 PM
da-patriot,

Welcome to PinoyDVD :).

If you're planning to order from US online sources, Amazon in particular, why don't you try the ongoing PinoyDVD-myUSmailbox promo.  Your DVDs get shipped to a personal virtual US address and myUSmailbox takes care of shipping the items to the Phils. for you. This way, you get your orders quickly and you avoid paying any taxes. Plus you can avail of certain shipping discounts that are exclusive for PinoyDVD members only.

For details, just click on the link at the bottom of the page... myUSmailbox Christmas DVD Deals. This is a good option for shipping items ordered directly from the US.

Happy shopping ;).

Cheers - Neo  :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: mic_09 on Dec 01, 2001 at 12:47 AM
Hi Neo, safe ba talga mag register sa myusmailbox? when i tried to visit the site to register and was ready to give my credit card info, nde kasi protected yun page (wala yun SSL logo located at the bottom of the browser and the URL does not start with https..

Thanks

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: neo on Dec 01, 2001 at 06:13 AM
mic_09,

Actually, I'm not sure about that as well because I did not use the online registration option when I signed up early this year.  Maybe Mr. myUSmailbox (Randy M.) can enlighten us on their online security.

I simply requested for an application form which they sent to me by email and I faxed them all my details including my credit card info.  In fact, if you download the PinoyDVD-myUSmailbox promo FAQ and Application Form (http://www.pinoydvd.com/promos/application.doc) from the link below, it will take you to an application form document which instructs you to send the a copy of completed form (plus other documentation) by fax in order to immediately activate your account.  You then send the originals by courier or bring it in person to their Makati Office. I don't think the online registration option will qualify you for the promo.

Hope this helps.

Cheers - Neo :D

P.S.  BTW, I almost forgot...Welcome to PinoyDVD ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: mic_09 on Dec 01, 2001 at 06:38 AM
Salamat Neo...hope Mr. Randy M. would also add some helpful info
Title: MyUSmailbox website is SSL-Secured
Post by: MyUSmailbox.com on Dec 01, 2001 at 10:56 AM
Dear Mr. Mic_09,

Our website's Registration Form and Credit Card Info is SSL-Secured. The reason why you cannot see it in the URL is because we put the registration page in "stealth" mode. If you try looking at the bottom part when you are loading the regitration site, it says "https://.......".

Anyway, since a few weeks back, we "disabled" the registration form because we decided to process all applications manually, meaning, we have to get the documents filled-up and signed, and obtain proof that the applicant has his/her own credit card that can guarantee shipments.

We highly encourage you to download the Application Forms from the PinoyDVD.com website so that you can avail of this rare promo that we don't usually give out to any other partners.

Our 6 years experience in this business will truly help you facilitate online shopping. Do give us a call if you have any questions.

Better yet, go visit us in SM MegaTrade Hall today until Sunday, Dec. 2. We have a booth at Business Start-Ups Expo 2001.

Best,
The MyUSmailbox.com Team

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: da_patriot on Dec 01, 2001 at 11:22 AM
thanks for the reply neo!

yup, myusmailbox option sounds interesting!!! :)
I assume no one has tried the mkna post office shipment...

regards,
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: mic_09 on Dec 02, 2001 at 12:47 AM
Thanks for the info regarding myusmailbox security..i'll visit the megatrade hall today :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Krazyfu_tangerine on Dec 11, 2001 at 01:39 AM
why am i being charged 2,219 ($42.60) pesos for my $88.98 order
sent through dhl. via international priority?

thats too much!!! dont you think?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: voj on Dec 11, 2001 at 02:04 AM
Hi Krayzyfu_tangerine,

Siguro dahil pasko na! Wrong timing.  ;)

Learned my lesson, though. I was also charged the last time I used the Post Office in Makati. P900.oo for a $42.00 order at Tau trying to take advantage of the free shipping.  Yours is a lot more expensive. Ask for an official receipt or else DHL lang makinabang doon.

voj
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Dec 11, 2001 at 02:09 AM

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why am i being charged 2,219 ($42.60) pesos for my $88.98 order
sent through dhl. via international priority?

thats too much!!! dont you think?


Hey Krazy_fu, welcome to the club!
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Krazyfu_tangerine on Dec 11, 2001 at 02:45 AM
>:( i called them again and told them to give me a list on how are taxes being charged to my package. they said they will call me back tom. about it.

agggghhhh! mind you this is just 2 items.
the godfather boxset and the starwars PM1 dvd

(my order is already late for 2 months, and i get charged 2.2k for it too!!! damn!)  
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: dzone23 on Dec 11, 2001 at 03:29 AM
dhl sucks!

i think fedex is better, and since they have that hub in subic, it is a little faster. ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Crispy_Party on Dec 11, 2001 at 05:40 AM
I learned about the customs thing the hard way, , but i had a blessing on the side.  I chose the 7-10 day international delivery from amazon, on the 15th day, when my order of 3 discs didn't arrive, i asked amazon and so they sent me a new shipment at no charge at all.  Still after 15 days, no discs, amazon sent me a third shipment for free.  A few days after they emailed me telling me they already sent the 3rd package, I recieved my first package, it was a month delayed.  I subsequently recieved my 2nd and 2rd shipment.  So the amount I paid for in the customs was augmented and it turns out after computing tha amount I paid minus the amount I sold the discs for, I got the discs for free. :P
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Dec 11, 2001 at 08:36 AM
Hi Crispy!

Baka ma karma tayo diyan! Baka madala ang amazon sa mga Philippine shipments o madaling ma-bankarote sila. Siguro to be in their good side, maaaring isoli via courier yung pangatlong shipment para oks. Then sell the second set to recoup all you additional expenses. Suggestion lang naman. (Payong kaibigan lang ;) )

Pero mukhang nabenta mo na yata lahat ah! Anong mga titles?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Crispy_Party on Dec 11, 2001 at 10:23 AM
Actually I sold them na nga.  Maybe if I had learned about this forum at that time, baka nga binalik ko yung 3rd package.  Next time I know better to order door to door para mabilis and no tax.  Sila eh, they didn't take into consideration that mail here is really slow, so they should've put more than ten days on their site.  The titles were Thomas Crowne Affair, Reservoir Dogs, Blade Runner, and Se7en.  
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Dec 14, 2001 at 09:53 AM
Hindi pa rin pumalso ang Pasig P.O.!  I got my a package today worth $47 and I paid only P20.  Mabuhay!  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: benny on Dec 15, 2001 at 12:41 PM
Just paid 800 pesos in taxes for 4 dvds at the Las Piñas post office. (http://www.plauder-smilies.de/screams.gif)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: DVDiva on Dec 15, 2001 at 07:32 PM
20 pesos for 2 DVDs at the Malate post office, shipped from TAU Canada. :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Krazyfu_tangerine on Dec 15, 2001 at 08:23 PM

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Hindi pa rin pumalso ang Pasig P.O.!  I got my a package today worth $47 and I paid only P20.  Mabuhay!  ;D



yup, Pasig P.O. never charges tax, only 20 pesos.
may it be $150 up :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: MyUSmailbox.com on Dec 15, 2001 at 10:46 PM
What's TAU Canada's website?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: gonz on Dec 15, 2001 at 10:55 PM
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What's TAU Canada's website?

http://www.totalactionuniverse.com
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Geoffrey on Dec 16, 2001 at 06:22 AM
For my 2 DVDs from TAU(Ordered last October-Free worldwide shipping weekend promo), Mandaluyong P.O. has charged me P900+ for customs >:( Instead na maka-mura, lalo pang napamahal :'( Delayed na nga, ang mahal pa ng tax!
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Pizza_Gurl on Dec 16, 2001 at 09:43 PM
paid P1000 for 4 DVDs (ordered from TAU) at the QC P.O.   >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: radzeykimosabi on Dec 17, 2001 at 12:14 AM
I paid P20 for 4 DVD's ($70) at Alabang PO last thursday. A few months ago i bought 9 DVD's worth $200 including shipping and i paid P10,000 minus P9,980. I love Alabang PO! ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on Dec 20, 2001 at 01:50 PM
I ordered one dvd title worth $50 from amazon.com through expedited international shipping.  the dvd shipped last dec 11.  I got it yesterday dec 19.  It was delivered straight to my desk in pasig.  No taxes, no going to the post office, no import processing fee.

Am I lucky or what?   ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: flyderman on Dec 21, 2001 at 12:13 AM
To those who've been charged a lot of tax, you might wanna try talking to the customs people before you actually pay the big fee.  Customs charges seems subjective, as determined by the custom offical.  So, if you try and tell them it's too much, maybe they would consider and probably lower your tax, or nullify your tax at all!

Might not work for everyone, but well, it's worth a try anyway... :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lazy_maze on Dec 21, 2001 at 01:35 AM
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To those who've been charged a lot of tax, you might wanna try talking to the customs people before you actually pay the big fee.  Customs charges seems subjective, as determined by the custom offical.  So, if you try and tell them it's too much, maybe they would consider and probably lower your tax, or nullify your tax at all!

Might not work for everyone, but well, it's worth a try anyway... :)


My story: (My First Encounter with Customs at the P.O.)

Just came from Mandaluyong PO this morning. I had 2 shipments: 1 box set of the Godfather collection from Amazon and 4 DVDs from TAU:

When I got to the PO, I gave the claim slips to the lady (as usual) but I was surprised when a guy from Customs suddenly appeared from behind me.

He started to open the Amazon box (because there was no declared value since it was a replacement for the previous defective set that I got), the TAU box however had a declared value of 100+ Can $.

C-Guy: "Taxable ito,a."
Me:    "Dati na akong pumi-pickup dito wala naman tax,a"
C-Guy: "Wala lang ako noon. (yeah,right).Bakit walang value ito?"(referring to Amazon box)
Me:    "Replacement yan nung previous package ko"
C-Guy: "E,ito? (opens the TAU box)..."Apocalypse Now, Amores Perros...etc,etc..."
Me:    "Magkano ba tax?'
C-Guy: (gets a claculator and started computing)"Hmm. Sige, wala na itong Amazon, sabi mo replacement,e. Ito na lang isa. (Continues calculating). Eto.
Me:   "1,213 pesos?" (I started questioning his computations, he explains clearly naman.)
C-Guy: "Teka, kukunin ko yung resibo"(he leaves for a while)

I talked to the P.O. lady who knows me very well.

Me: "Bakit may tax ngayon? Dati naman palaging wala, a?."
Lady: "Natiyempong nandito siya, e. TAWARAN MO. TAPOS WAG KA NANG HUMINGI NG RESIBO."

The customs guy comes back:

Me: "Sir, bawasan nyo naman, wala sa budget ko yan,e.Wag nyo na lang resibuhan."
C-guy: (Acts as if surprised (duhhh), nagisip kuno)"Sige, 800 na lang."

As I was collecting my package, he continues: :"Daming dumadating dito niyan! Lalo na yang Ama-zone(pronounced as "zone"). Marami, taga GREENHILLS (beware, people!)!"

Me: "Thank you, sir. Ano ho pangalan nyo?"
C-Guy:  [He tells his name]
Me:"Ah, Papaano ho yan meron pa akong paparating na package?(I have another 5 DVDs arriving from Djangos)"

C-Guy: "Sige, bigay ko na lang sa iyo, yon!"  ;D

Moral: Be nice to Custom people, para walang hassle. :'( :-/
;D   >:(

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lazy_maze on Dec 21, 2001 at 01:48 AM
oops! :P
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: j@y on Dec 21, 2001 at 02:04 AM
lazy_maze How long did it take to arrive, from day of shipment to mandaluyong PO. Yung galing TAU :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: gaol on Dec 21, 2001 at 02:15 AM
I took advantage of a free-shipping promo of CDNow a few years ago to order seven or eight CDs not available locally. They were sent to me in two packages.

The first contained 2 CDs and when I claimed it at the Araneta Center Post Office, it was released to me immediately (no tax!).

The second, obviously larger, package was opened by the customs guys at Araneta. They did some computations and told me I had to pay P800 in taxes. When I balked at the amount, they said they could do something to lower it, but I won't get a receipt.

I handed over a P500 bill, and they gave me P100 change. Since there were 4 people involved, it means they got P100 each. As I was leaving they advised me that next time I should order more CDs in bulk, "para makamura." But then, this big CDNow order was just a one-off.

I also ordered single items (CDs, DVDs, palm vx accessories) over the years. In almost all cases, the only thing they charged was P20, the customs inspection charge.

GAOL
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lazy_maze on Dec 21, 2001 at 02:49 AM
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lazy_maze How long did it take to arrive, from day of shipment to mandaluyong PO. Yung galing TAU :)


jay-z,

I placed my order on Nov. 10 (4 DVDs)
They shipped it on Nov. 16
The package arrived at the P.O. on Dec. 13
I was informed by P.O. on Dec. 19

So, it took 24 business days to arrive (at the P.O., from date of order)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: downtown on Dec 21, 2001 at 08:52 AM
just got my order from Davao P.O. Got charged P20 by the customs officer. A guy opened the package, i thought i was going to be charged but when he told the office that its 3 DVD/CD's he just said ok na yan so i paid P20.
Yehey. I'll try to order from Amazon. It took them about 1 month to arrive on the slowest method.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: groucho on Jan 20, 2002 at 06:17 AM
Has anybody ever tried www.e-to-door.com ?  I saw a poster in one of the malls and checked it out on the Net.  It's a local company that will buy most anything you order abroad, and you can pay e2door directly, without having to pass through many of the tedious businesses of the e-merchants.  Hindi ko lang alam if ordering through e2door will negate our perpetual problem with corrupt Customs personnel.

Does anybody have any experience with e2door?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jan 20, 2002 at 08:02 AM
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Has anybody ever tried www.e-to-door.com ?  I saw a poster in one of the malls and checked it out on the Net.  It's a local company that will buy most anything you order abroad, and you can pay e2door directly, without having to pass through many of the tedious businesses of the e-merchants.  Hindi ko lang alam if ordering through e2door will negate our perpetual problem with corrupt Customs personnel.

Does anybody have any experience with e2door?



Hey Groucho:

Mukhang pareho sa pabili.com yung service ng e2door, unfortunately, temporarily closed yung pabili as per their website.

Nevertheless, my experience with Pabili is that kung hindi sila siningil sa customs, wala silang icha-charge back sa iyo. I bought 3 disks through them at walang customs charge.

Hope this helped.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Dozer on Jan 20, 2002 at 06:19 PM
My last three pick up worth $21.00, $42.00 & $19.00 at the post office was tax P20.00 each. :)

I did not pay any tax for an order worth $113.00 delivered by FedEx. ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: groucho on Jan 21, 2002 at 06:01 AM
Thanks for the feedback, viper.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jan 21, 2002 at 06:08 AM
No problem, Groucho. I prefer myusmailbox though for all my US orders. Never been taxed yet.
Title: New Customs Gripe
Post by: NY152 on Apr 05, 2002 at 11:15 PM
Didn't know if this should have been a new thread, but I decided to just add it here. I have a new gripe about customs.

I have a package from the UK that was shipped by DHL Express. The estimated arrival time was last Wednesday. I decided to track it and follow it up today.

I did arrive as scheduled. But according to DHL, it's been stuck at customs for two days now! This has never happened to me before - I always got my DHL packages within 24 hours of their Philippine arrival in the past.

You pay a lot of money to get your deliveries shipped to you ASAP, then this happens. It's disgusting.

It's stuff like this that makes legitimate buyers consider going the pirated route, IMHO. Mura na, wala pang hassle.

Sorry to mention the "p" word in a different thread from the intended one, but it's really irritating. I mean, TAX ME if you want to, but HANDLE MY ORDERS PROMPTLY, as well. That's the LEAST you can do for me.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: LukeCAM on Apr 14, 2002 at 05:12 AM
at forest hills novaliches p.o.d customs guy is kind enuf to sayo to me "o basta wag kang lalagpas ng tatlong items ha, di na kita i-tax (no matter wat amount!, yun lang nga hanggang tatlo lang!)".
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Apr 14, 2002 at 05:50 PM
Depende nga talaga sa Customs officer. Merong masipag mag-compute, merong tamad.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: lance_ryan on May 29, 2002 at 02:46 PM
Hi everyone... I'm new to DVDs but have had experience buying online na rin from Amazon and Outpost.com...

May question lang ako.. If you purchase something at Amazon and specify that it would be given as a gift to someone, di ba they will wrap it and not indicate anything about the price of the goods? So... does that mean na hindi ito mata-tax kasi nga regalo sya?

Hmmm... good idea?  :D
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Kahon on May 29, 2002 at 03:30 PM
hey lance_ryan

somebody had the same idea before

look at this thread:

send a gift to myself to avoid taxes? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=2183)
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on May 31, 2002 at 09:37 PM

Hi everyone... I'm new to DVDs but have had experience buying online na rin from Amazon and Outpost.com...

May question lang ako.. If you purchase something at Amazon and specify that it would be given as a gift to someone, di ba they will wrap it and not indicate anything about the price of the goods? So... does that mean na hindi ito mata-tax kasi nga regalo sya?

Hmmm... good idea?  :D



I think the gift option without the package particulars are applicable only for gift shipments within the US. Kung gift from US to the Phils, meron pa rin invoice stating what are the contents (hindi  na surprise gift!) because it is a requirement in all items entering a country.

I dont know if this is how the question in the other thread was answered. I'll post na rin nga sa kabila!


Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 06, 2002 at 04:01 PM
I think the gift option without the package particulars are applicable only for gift shipments within the US. Kung gift from US to the Phils, meron pa rin invoice stating what are the contents (hindi  na surprise gift!) because it is a requirement in all items entering a country.

I dont know if this is how the question in the other thread was answered. I'll post na rin nga sa kabila!

I agree to that as I was a recent victim of it in Parañaque Post Office. So to the readers who are living along Parañaque you have been forwarned.

I ordered to this online company in Hongkong with 4 DVDs along with it upon arrival here (registered mail) upon pick-up at our Post office, miss Custom charge me 800+ bucks for it.

Despite the Gift option
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: groucho on Jun 09, 2002 at 07:11 PM
viper, I was re-reading this thread and got curious.  Do you still order stuff via myusmailbox.com?  And just how much more expensive is it than worldmail?  Or how much less expensive is it than FedEx/UPS?
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: jackryan on Jun 09, 2002 at 07:19 PM
Hi folks,

Is there a workaround of having some electronics stuff (ie. XBOX, etc.) shipped by a third party from Los Angeles to Manila (door-to-door) ?

Thanks,
-jackryan 8)
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jun 09, 2002 at 07:32 PM

viper, I was re-reading this thread and got curious.  Do you still order stuff via myusmailbox.com?  And just how much more expensive is it than worldmail?  Or how much less expensive is it than FedEx/UPS?


I am quite satisfied with MUSM's services although I have not been ordering from amazon for quite a while. Compared to Worldmail, mas mahal ang MUSM if you opt for the air freight option. However,  hindi pa ako na-tax sa MUSM while my lone order through the post (Worldmail) have been taxed heavily.

Mas mahal yung door-to-door fedex/dhl compared to MUSM pero mas mabilis ang delivery.

Lately, I shifted to PARC and Benny for my DVD purchases.

Hope this helped.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: green_archer on Jun 12, 2002 at 05:49 PM
With due respect to Parc and Benny, but I think their prices are still higher compared to buying on-line with the freight charge of MUSM even added.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jun 12, 2002 at 07:36 PM

With due respect to Parc and Benny, but I think their prices are still higher compared to buying on-line with the freight charge of MUSM even added.


I never said that their disks are 'more cost effective" than online ordering via MUSM. Gasgas na kasi yung credit card ko kaya cash/cheque muna ang bili ko ng R1 dvds. They may cost a little bit more pero sa delivery time, medyo angat sina Parc and Benny compared to MUSM.

So for my R1 DVD fix, I have three sources, Parc, Benny and Amazon via MUSM. No more Pabili, no more Expedited and Worldmail.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Jude on Jun 13, 2002 at 10:46 PM
For the first time, I needed to go to the Post Office (at Malate) to pick up a package of DVDs. Naka-pick up na ako before pero panay mga books or other printed material so hindi taxable. And usually naman kasi 1-2 DVDs lang pinapadala ko so nakakalusot sa P.O., I get it right at my address na. Pero this time I was expecting 5 dvds kaya sa laki siguro nung package hindi nakalampas.

Anyway, minalas ako and the customs guy was there. He was the one who got the package and after asking, opened it up in front of me. "Mga DVD, may tax ito", sabi niya. Then he went away to compute and get a "resibo" daw. While he was away, I paid the P20 to the P.O. lady and OK na sana ako dun, she even said "Sige, ayos na." and I could have just grabbed the package and ran (it was already in my arms). But NOOO! Good little boy that I was, I waited for the customs guy to come back. Medyo inisip ko kasi that if I made a run for it, baka ma-blacklist na ako sa P.O. at mahirap na yun.

He came back with a computed figure of P822. Siyempre hindi ako papayag dun! So napa-acting tuloy ako ng di oras. I performed the old "Kulang ang pera ko! Kailangan ko pa ng pamasahe!" routine.  Pang-Oscars ang delivery ko, with matching going-through-the-poor-empty-wallet choreography. So pumayag yung guy na babaan, he asked me how much I could give. And here's the stupid part, I immediately said "P500". He accepted without blinking. Siyempre, I really regret not coming up with a lower figure for my "tax". Pero it's not too bad naman since I didn't pay anything for the DVDs in the first place (padala lang ng friend ko).
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: NY152 on Jun 13, 2002 at 11:06 PM

Naka-pick up na ako before pero panay mga books or other printed material so hindi taxable.


That's surprising to me, since it's usually my big book purchases (yes, they're medical books) that get taxed heavily.

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Pero it's not too bad naman since I didn't pay anything for the DVDs in the first place (padala lang ng friend ko).


Did you ask you friend to unwrap each and every one of them and label the plain package "Used Videos, value = $0"? That one works for me as far as the tax situation of remailed items goes.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Jude on Jun 13, 2002 at 11:37 PM
I know I read somewhere that here in the Philippines, printed material, particularly books with educational content are non-taxable. Kaya nga books here are cheap compared to other countries. Anyway, so far never pa ako na-tax for books.

Yes, I explicitly told my friend to try to pass off the DVDs as used, even describing specifically how to do this. Pero mukhang tinamad yung 'kanong iyon. Sigh.
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 15, 2002 at 07:28 AM
Let me share this experience ordering from HIVIZONE (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=3418;start=15)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: akoito on Jun 19, 2002 at 09:51 AM
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I had four shipments via myUSmailbox delivered to another former office address in Diliman and was never taxed. One pending shipment, though, valued at approx P8,000 is yet to be delivered to my residential address here in Tondo. I just hoped that I don't get taxed this time.
 :-/

Hello, Viper.  Were you taxed when you had your orders delivered in Tondo?  I'm staying at my aunt's house here in Tondo and am very much inclined to have some of my DVD orders sent to my residential address.  Will you recommend na gamitin ko na lang iyong Tondo address ko?

For other PinoyDVD members living in this area and have tried this, your feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks.  ;D

Aeris muna si Akoito ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jun 19, 2002 at 10:01 AM


Hello, Viper.  Were you taxed when you had your orders delivered in Tondo?  I'm staying at my aunt's house here in Tondo and am very much inclined to have some of my DVD orders sent to my residential address.  Will you recommend na gamitin ko na lang iyong Tondo address ko?

For other PinoyDVD members living in this area and have tried this, your feedback will be much appreciated.

Thanks.  ;D

Aeris muna si Akoito ;D


All MUSM shipments were not taxed (yet!) both delivered in Ortigas and Tondo.

Hope this helped. :)
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: akoito on Jun 19, 2002 at 01:50 PM
Thanks a lot, Viper.

To everyone:  Has anyone of you shipped your items to Tondo via our post office?  Were you taxed?
Thanks in advance for your feedback...  ;D
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 19, 2002 at 03:14 PM
One thin for sure, Las Pinas Post office definitely charge >:(

This post might not be DVD but what more if it is.

Just this afternoon my friend went to pick-up a gift package from his other friend in LP post office to his dismay he was charge by P1,800 dahil daw luxury item (A shirt luxury item and cost P1800) worst was he was not even given a receipt for his tax payment.

Believe better not trust this Post Office >:(
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 20, 2002 at 11:19 AM

Depende nga talaga sa Customs officer. Merong masipag mag-compute, merong tamad.


Merong Corrupt, Merong Gulpe de Gulat, Merong Mapakiusapan, Merong nagpapahirap and merong based sa Customs book.

Hay, Only in the Philippines.

If the Anthrax is prevalent again, ewan ko lang if they would open it? Sana news na ito magwidespread uli para matakot makialam itong mga Customs na ito
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anwarlorenzo on Jun 20, 2002 at 07:42 PM
OT: Pano kung magpapadala ng package thru fedex (dvds) magkano kaya? Siguro naman walang tax pag ganun diba? :D
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 20, 2002 at 10:01 PM
Mine have no problem aquiring two adult HK themed titles (Sex and Zen 1 & Fatal Love) from an Online Store and shipped via FEDEX which arrive peacefully and fast right at my doorstep :)
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: mchammer888 on Jun 21, 2002 at 05:36 AM
pag isang dvd na bibilhin ko ba sa amazon iiinspect pa nila? as in one lang.... pano mo malalalaman kung saang post office kukunin?
Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: viper on Jun 21, 2002 at 08:33 PM
When  your order arrives in the post office (which has jurisdiction over your shipping address indicated in your order), the postal authorities sends you a registered mail card advising you to claim your shipment at the designated postal office. You must bring a valid ID to identify you as the recepient plus extra cash if assessed by the customs officer at the post office.

If you will be sending a representative, accomplish the authority form at the back of the registry card that you received and make sure your representative brings his/her valid ID, the registered mail card and your valid ID (plus of course cash for the tax)

Title: Only been taxed once at YesAsia.com
Post by: cineaste on Jun 28, 2002 at 11:44 PM
Reading everyone's complaints regarding taxes is kinda scary.

here's my experience.

I have been ordering books at Barnes and Noble and my pourchases generlaly average around $150 and they always ship via FedERx and I have never been charged.

With Amazon, books shipped via DHL, amounting to the same as my Barens and Noble are always taxed.

When I buy 10-15 vcds at YesAsia, they always ship via DHL and I have never been taxed.  However , when I bought 20 vcds, I was taxed about 1,000 pesos (DHL din).

Interestingly, the invoice placed outside the package usually lists the value in HK dollars and it is usually about 50% lower than the actual price.  I've never asked YesAsia about this (baka mag-declare pa ng real value, patay sa customs).

I just got 4 vcds from amazon, valued about $100 and shipped via UPS and placed in separated packages of 2 vcds.

I was taxed 1,206 for one pacakge and no tax on the other.

Title: Re:Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jul 01, 2002 at 02:43 PM
I guess it would great if this thread would be merge

Local Penalty tax (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=2082)

A lot of information our fellow members can get with this!
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Dec 09, 2004 at 08:43 PM
I'm in malate area so for my usual standard shipping, I'd have to collect my parcel at the Ermita main post office building. All I can say pls watch out as it's a snake den esp when they know that I'm a foreigner....Geez...my tax charge range from P1,200 to P2,500 ++. There was once that I received a free T Shirt from Australia & has no invoice, they charged me P1,000 + & saying I failed to declare the true value! Yuk! This Xmas season is definitely going to be worse.

Nowdays I don't mind using EMS. Tho it's quite expensive at least the no more paying tax when I received except the P50 delivery fee. Worst scenario, I will use DHL. At least I know the tax paid is genuine not like the Ermita PO where all the crocodiles have big mouth  >:D 
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Dec 10, 2004 at 03:39 AM
Screw You Ermita P.O. Crocodiles  >:(

Appreciate the heads up on the Ermita P.O. Pchin. I hope those fellow pinoydvd members residing nearby are assisted on the info you shared.

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Dec 13, 2004 at 06:47 PM
Recently I ordered my dvds thru EMS. After almost 10 days plus I got worried. Actually the parcel was being held back by the custom office. Got a notice to collect it. I got annoy as I expected the EMS (that's why I paid more in the first place) to deliver the parcel straight to my office doorstep not to mention the inconvenience of travel, traffic & time wasting.  :(

Today I collected my parcel (my first order from DVDetective) at EMS custom office in Pasay City... I was brought into a room full of crocodiles sitting there basically doing nothing but on "standby" basis, i.e. waiting for their next victims to collect more Xmas "bonus" in the form of custom charge w/out receipt  >:( Well, like they say... it's a season for giving  ^-^

Ngek! My DVDective order Official Receipt states my true value of $132. How I wish DVDective.com is more aleart as in Angolz.com (they declare a much lower value). So the custom official slap me an outrageous P2,000 + custom! I put up a fight & insisted them giving me a "discounted" rate. I just offered him P500 lang but he refused to accept saying it's too low. Finally we agreed on P800! Hay nako....  at least I don't have to pay P2,000 +  :P

According to the messeger that delivered my previous EMS parcel direct to my office..normally any parcel with value above US$100 is subject to custom evaluation. This mean, EMS is not considered "pre-tax" paid  :-\
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: dyobbs on Jan 06, 2005 at 11:59 AM
Guys,

       kwestyon.... Has anyone experienced picking up parcels at the NIA Road, Diliman Postal office? How much do they charge . Any tips?

 :o
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: patring on Jan 12, 2005 at 09:39 PM
just picked up a package at the NIA post office last week.  it was the ROTK EE shipped through royale logistics standard shipping.  no payment whatsoever and the people there were nice too.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: dyobbs on Jan 14, 2005 at 03:34 PM
Patring hi,

      hhmmm, that's good for you. I just picked mine yesterday at NIA Road, the ROTK Gift set. As per Customs Law, anything that goes $50 and above you'll be charged with taxes, my gift set is worth $63 shipping included. So they are charging me for Php1380, but after some negotiations, i'd ended up paying Php 500... How about in your case? Maybe your DVD is worth <$50, so you're not charged. ;)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Jan 14, 2005 at 04:41 PM
I checked with my shipping broker, according to him there is no such thing as US$50 limit. Any amount is subjected to custom evaluation & at the custom official's discretion. However, to the customer may dispute or negotiate with the custom so that the computation can be lowered. However, he admits special discounted "arrangement" can be made which is of course without receipt. Can anyone verify the tax or custom act concerning the US$50 excess limit? Frankly, I'm very tire that those crocs simply charge inconsistently.  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: RNIverson on Jan 14, 2005 at 04:57 PM
i once had a $40+ order that was charged with 1k tax, which was then lowered to 500  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: patring on Jan 14, 2005 at 07:11 PM
dyobbs,

yeah, it came out to less than $30.  i was just surprised i wasn't asked to pay even just the P30 storage fee which i was asked to pay the week before for a package from koreandvds.  it was in a different PO though.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on May 12, 2005 at 01:58 PM
Sometimes if the amount is too low, say if less than US$50 or $40, they may be "lazy"  to do the extra work & just let you get off w/out paying any custom charges. But for others, esp those that are desperate...hehe they will be very hard working & charge every single centavo they can squeeze from you!  ;D Of cos, not every PO is the same  :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Jun 12, 2005 at 12:02 PM
After going to the post office so often & the person in-charge knows me as their regular...now they are willing to give me discount in the custom fee computations... Frankly speaking until today, I'm still at loss how's the computation process is done... Well, in my next visit, I'll clarify with them  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: jeckjeck on Jun 12, 2005 at 06:02 PM
Don't lose sleep over it, paul... I do not think anything the Philippine government does can be explained...  ;D Customs duties, taxes, penalties, traffic fines... name it and you can haggle down the price  ;D  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Jun 26, 2005 at 10:07 AM
After going to the post office so often & the person in-charge knows me as their regular...now they are willing to give me discount in the custom fee computations... Frankly speaking until today, I'm still at loss how's the computation process is done... Well, in my next visit, I'll clarify with them  ;D

As I see it Paul, whenever you enter the postoffice, they know you "not as Mr. Paul" but "Mr. Source of Income".

I hope, this would end that they would know you as an honest and decent person and would not charge you with "Phantom" computations
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Jun 26, 2005 at 10:17 AM
Yeah that's the way they're treating me (& everyone else).... Problem is if they use the proper method of calculation, my custom fee normally ended up btw 1.5k to above 2k easily....geez can't manage to pay that sort of amount in view of my high volume of importation. At the end, I rather accept theor so called "predetermined value" that depend on the size or weight of the package.

For example 300 for a small package, 500, 800 & 1k for the very big & heavy parcel. My Hero LE Japan R2 got whacked at 800
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: YrNeH on Sep 10, 2005 at 01:46 PM
tanong lang po mga kapatid.  kung magpapadala ako via EMS at ide-declare ko as GIFT at value ng DVD box set around US$50, mayroon kayang customs charge ito?  mayroon na bang naka-experience na ganito ang paraan ng pagkakapadala sa kanila.  maraming salamat po.

shalom :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: notarius on Sep 10, 2005 at 07:29 PM
tanong lang po mga kapatid.  kung magpapadala ako via EMS at ide-declare ko as GIFT at value ng DVD box set around US$50, mayroon kayang customs charge ito?  mayroon na bang naka-experience na ganito ang paraan ng pagkakapadala sa kanila.  maraming salamat po.

shalom :)
Gifts are not exempt from import duties under the Tariff and Customs Code.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: jackryan on Sep 10, 2005 at 10:10 PM
Sent you a pm :-)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: xage on Sep 11, 2005 at 12:56 AM
Gifts are not exempt from import duties under the Tariff and Customs Code.

That is true, however in the realm of customs in Philippines they tend to bend the rules for them to earn money
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: YrNeH on Sep 11, 2005 at 05:18 PM
Gifts are not exempt from import duties under the Tariff and Customs Code.
thanks for the reply kompanyero :)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 11, 2005 at 06:31 PM
good luck bro, those customs guys at ems are strict nowadays. but if it only has $50 declared value, maybe they'll just let it go. if it doesn't have any declared value, it's still possible you'll get taxed but I won't have any idea how they'll compute that, since tax will depend on the declared value  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Chet on Sep 11, 2005 at 10:30 PM
good luck bro, those customs guys at ems are strict nowadays. but if it only has $50 declared value, maybe they'll just let it go. if it doesn't have any declared value, it's still possible you'll get taxed but I won't have any idea how they'll compute that, since tax will depend on the declared value  ;D

I think dati sa MCPO they estimate the declared value.  Around $20 per dvd ata. Just like that.  Out of thin air. ???
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pchin on Sep 11, 2005 at 11:16 PM
Yeah sometimes it depends who is on duty & whether his mood is good (depends on your luck)....if you happen to come across at the wrong time & wrong personnel...phew u will get whack for sure...at least that's what usually happen at my area.... ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 12, 2005 at 03:22 PM
I think dati sa MCPO they estimate the declared value.  Around $20 per dvd ata. Just like that.  Out of thin air. ???

...reason why I don't use Makati address for airmail shipped dvds  ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pinoydom on Dec 01, 2008 at 02:07 AM
Try this:

http://www.manilaforwarder.com/philsurfer.html
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: wastedlyf on Feb 06, 2012 at 05:48 AM
Raising up an old thread but with relevant question:

I do buy DVDs from NZ for educational purposes however, customs charges me with tax, almost 30% of the cost of material + shipping (yes, combined). Do we have any existing laws or regulations on DVD imports, particularly those for personal use?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 06, 2012 at 06:40 AM
Raising up an old thread but with relevant question:

I do buy DVDs from NZ for educational purposes however, customs charges me with tax, almost 30% of the cost of material + shipping (yes, combined). Do we have any existing laws or regulations on DVD imports, particularly those for personal use?

when you got the customs charges, what was the volume of your particular transaction, perhaps it helps to  keep the pcs.  down to max considered as personal use.

What jacks up the price is not the duties and taxes but for some goods the storage fees . But I remove the shipping costs and compute for duties/taxes seperately and hindi naman 30%.  HTH
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: wastedlyf on Feb 06, 2012 at 06:51 AM
It was just a piece so kahit ako nagulat.

DVD cost was 56 AUD + 35 AUD shipping fee. Approximate cost was Php 4,150. Computed tax is around 1,900++ (more than 30%) pala - so ako nagulat. Then ironically, DHL (courier of that package) sent SMS on a Sunday afternoon and sabi nila pag within 3 days hindi nakuha, storage fees daw on top of the outstanding fee. I had to prepare some documents as per their advise to declare items as personal use in an affidavit and that what drew me to a lower tax. 

Pero ang hassle lang kasi kung everytime may import for educational material (quarterly kasi updated yung materials and the provider hasn't setup an online delivery of materials ala iTunes), e same problem ang daraanan just to get those DVDs on time.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: pekspert on Feb 06, 2012 at 07:14 AM
Caution: DO not use DHL as a courrier for packages. Pang documents lang sila. I was taxed heavily before for a upscaling DVD player i ordered from China.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 06, 2012 at 07:46 AM
It was just a piece so kahit ako nagulat.

DVD cost was 56 AUD + 35 AUD shipping fee. Approximate cost was Php 4,150. Computed tax is around 1,900++ (more than 30%) pala - so ako nagulat. Then ironically, DHL (courier of that package) sent SMS on a Sunday afternoon and sabi nila pag within 3 days hindi nakuha, storage fees daw on top of the outstanding fee. I had to prepare some documents as per their advise to declare items as personal use in an affidavit and that what drew me to a lower tax. 

Pero ang hassle lang kasi kung everytime may import for educational material (quarterly kasi updated yung materials and the provider hasn't setup an online delivery of materials ala iTunes), e same problem ang daraanan just to get those DVDs on time.

next time prepare mo yung docs stating personal use ahead of the shipping, if possible have it shipped from your australian contact to include a copy in their packing list.

Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 06, 2012 at 08:52 AM
The safest assumption is to consider that with the exception of documents, all items are taxable up to 50%, especially if you use courier service.  In my experience, I find that you'd have better chances of not paying anything via EMS than through any courier service kasi mas "proper and documented" ang courier service companies when dealing with Customs, while the Post Office is tipong hit or miss.  Yeah all items I sent via courier ay laging required ang invoice.  Pero iba-iba talaga experience ng mga members dito because the Customs policies are as clear as mud.

Although some items may honestly be for personal use, I dont think the Customs people really look at that kasi for them, lumang tugtugin na yon.  And it seems they dont even really know the actual duty rate - maski nga sa airport where it is clear that each traveling Pinoy has a 10K-peso duty free limit, they don't seem to know how to apply customs duty properly.

Raising up an old thread but with relevant question:

I do buy DVDs from NZ for educational purposes however, customs charges me with tax, almost 30% of the cost of material + shipping (yes, combined). Do we have any existing laws or regulations on DVD imports, particularly those for personal use?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 06, 2012 at 09:40 AM
My experience sa EMS, depende sa address ng post office. may crocs sa iba(in which case you will be asked to go to the office for examination) meron naman diretso sa yo.

Last year i bought 3 pieces of iphone video cables from china (10 makes it commercial), then shipped here.
usap sa customs, kano daw, i showed them the correspondence ng order detail and parang < 500 for 3 units. so di na ko pinabayaran.  

yun kasabay ko na old lady, pina parcel ang laptop na luma, eh hinihingian ng 15k. di ko matiis and so i showed customs sa iphone na sa ebay ito price nyan, ayun, binigay and assessed as that.  

but tama si Clondalkin, hit and miss si Philpost sa ganyan, so you better "gear" up with docs -- paypal payment copy, invoice etc.  hassle yan.


pero yung sa Australia subscription, ayaw mo ba na ipa image na lang sa kabila at download mo na lang, wala ka ng shipping costs. or baka may ebook or online version yun subscription. HTH
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: wastedlyf on Feb 08, 2012 at 09:57 AM
^wala pa kasi silang facility to do that, plus the fact na takot sila na mapirate yung materials nila. actually, i don't have problems with this before when we were using TnT. Nung nagshift to DHL yung shipper, dun na nagkaaberya ang lahat.

Sa last order ko, I was billed with a tax of 1,900++, I just filed an Affidavit of Ownership stating that the item is for personal use and has no commercial value, then dun lang nila ibinaba yung cost to 500. Sa TnT, walang ganun, sa DHL lang talaga. Dyahe lang kasi kung everytime na bibili e magfile ng ganun to think the item is not even available sa local market.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: toys4geeks on Feb 08, 2012 at 11:16 AM
^wala pa kasi silang facility to do that, plus the fact na takot sila na mapirate yung materials nila. actually, i don't have problems with this before when we were using TnT. Nung nagshift to DHL yung shipper, dun na nagkaaberya ang lahat.

Sa last order ko, I was billed with a tax of 1,900++, I just filed an Affidavit of Ownership stating that the item is for personal use and has no commercial value, then dun lang nila ibinaba yung cost to 500. Sa TnT, walang ganun, sa DHL lang talaga. Dyahe lang kasi kung everytime na bibili e magfile ng ganun to think the item is not even available sa local market.

explicit mo na lang ke TnT, mahal si DHL talaga.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Tavus on Aug 28, 2012 at 03:21 PM
hey im planning to get an anti mode from finland:

 http://verkkokauppa.planeetta.net/epages/Planeetta.sf/secktFhTlThQ2o/?ObjectPath=/Shops/vlsi/Products/8033S-II/SubProducts/8033S-II-0001 (http://verkkokauppa.planeetta.net/epages/Planeetta.sf/secktFhTlThQ2o/?ObjectPath=/Shops/vlsi/Products/8033S-II/SubProducts/8033S-II-0001)

i think the price with shipping $356. now if i ship it to manila how much would it cost?

i have never had a good experience with the Philippine post office.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:08 AM
Matagal nga ata sa customs. August 14 pa na-turn over sa customs yun package ko pero till now wala pang balita. I sent an email sa EMS at post office, di pa daw binabalik sa kanila.  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anya618 on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:14 AM
pag pasay city post office, wag nyo na iconsider ::)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:40 AM
pag pasay city post office, wag nyo na iconsider ::)

I didn't get this. pwede pa-pm or SMS? Thanks.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anya618 on Aug 29, 2012 at 07:54 AM
I didn't get this. pwede pa-pm or SMS? Thanks.

puro buwaya ang customs sa pasay post office  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 29, 2012 at 04:03 PM
puro buwaya ang customs sa pasay post office  >:(

Nakow. From China lang yun akin. Pero makukuha ko naman di ba?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anya618 on Aug 29, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Nakow. From China lang yun akin. Pero makukuha ko naman di ba?

di ba sir qc kayo?
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 29, 2012 at 05:41 PM
puro buwaya ang customs sa pasay post office  >:(

+1

Plus I have to travel from Valenzuela to EMS in Pasay...  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 29, 2012 at 08:31 PM
di ba sir qc kayo?

yes. Pero sa Pasay ang main di ba?  Sa Malolos ang ginamit kong addy sa seller so dun ang bagsak. Ang pagkakaalam ko, after ng customs, tsaka pa lang dadalhin ng EMS sa Malolos Post Office.
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM
yes. Pero sa Pasay ang main di ba?  Sa Malolos ang ginamit kong addy sa seller so dun ang bagsak. Ang pagkakaalam ko, after ng customs, tsaka pa lang dadalhin ng EMS sa Malolos Post Office.


depende yan tukayo, minsan hino-hold nila and you have to pick it up yourself sa Pasay. hindi lang twice o thrice nangyari sa akin yan...  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anya618 on Aug 30, 2012 at 05:41 AM

depende yan tukayo, minsan hino-hold nila and you have to pick it up yourself sa Pasay. hindi lang twice o thrice nangyari sa akin yan...  :( :( :(

matitindi ang mga lacoste sa pasay city customs. one time me inorder akong video game at playasia, kalabas labasan mas mahal pa ang bili ko sa item. parang binili mo na halos yung item at Toy Kingdom prices ::)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 30, 2012 at 09:28 AM
matitindi ang mga lacoste sa pasay city customs. one time me inorder akong video game at playasia, kalabas labasan mas mahal pa ang bili ko sa item. parang binili mo na halos yung item at Toy Kingdom prices ::)


korek! parang plus 1 na nga ang mangyayari... the biggest tax I paid was 12K for a 35 Kilo package containing chassis. The weird thing is it was classified in their tariff code as metal braces and they asked for 12K!!! ang kakapal naman!  >:(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: anya618 on Aug 30, 2012 at 09:32 AM

korek! parang plus 1 na nga ang mangyayari... the biggest tax I paid was 12K for a 35 Kilo package containing chassis. The weird thing is it was classified in their tariff code as metal braces and they asked for 12K!!! ang kakapal naman!  >:(

magagaling magkwenta yan meron silang pinapakitang computation ::)
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM
magagaling magkwenta yan meron silang pinapakitang computation ::)


kaya walang lusot, akala natin official computation pero sobrang compounded naman  :(
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 30, 2012 at 07:24 PM

kaya walang lusot, akala natin official computation pero sobrang compounded naman  :(

Dapat sa bank magtrabaho.


Oooops. Released na ng customs yun package ko. It's on it's way to Bulacan. Nabasa ata itong thread na ito.  :D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Stagea on Aug 30, 2012 at 10:49 PM
Dapat sa bank magtrabaho.


Oooops. Released na ng customs yun package ko. It's on it's way to Bulacan. Nabasa ata itong thread na ito.  :D

Baka nareseal na at styro na lang ang laman. ;D
Title: Re: Penalty charge from customs
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 31, 2012 at 06:29 AM
Baka nareseal na at styro na lang ang laman. ;D

Pero may tatak na Konzert yun styro.  ;D