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Home Theater => Displays => Flat Panels => Topic started by: Carlo777 on Nov 05, 2017 at 02:35 PM
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Well hello there...it’s been awhile! Not just around the forums but around the hobby as well. The past few years, since the death of plasma have been frustrating. Hoping from TV to TV until finally settling for a Sony W700. I do regret selling my Panasonic Full HD plasma in the burned anticipation (Then) of LED panels which did not live up to my expectations. Don’t get me wrong this Sony TV held out longer than any TV I’ve had since I was bitten by the bug. It was “ok” but mostly, I guess, the hobby simply died out and as long as I could occasionally watch a good movie and play the occasionally good game...I was good to go. I went back to my old automotive hobby and seemingly left the past joy behind.
Now, In one absolutely boring day (The All Saints day break) when driving to Tagaytay (Which I did every weekend) started to be more of a chore than actually being fun. When the constant rain prevented drop top motoring on a regular basis became an added frustration. I decided to go to a mall with the intention of buying a quick interior detailer spray. The cleaning agent was unfortunately unavailable so there was no other reason to stay longer(So I thought). However, on my way out, I passed by the SM appliance centre which was close to the hardware shop... just to check out the latest rigs from a hobby i abandoned.
There were some nice sets like the Sammy Mu series and the price provocative Sony X800. All 4k, all looking good but nothing to write home about, much more “haul to home” about. Then across the showroom I saw a TV that made me look closer...The LG C7! It was fantastic! The blacks were inky and the colours were vibrant but alas the price was just as inky and as vibrant as the TV. At that price point an impulse buy would be the height of folly. So I quickly reached out for my phone and cursed myself for still hanging on to my beat up IPhone 4s and made an “on the spot” research. Damn! Most review sites are pointing to this TV as one of the best 2017 has to offer. I darted back and forth saying to myself that on this day (supposedly), my spending should only be under a thousand and here I am clutching my wallet and drawing my credit card for something 10x that budgeted amount. Then it all came back to me...Vic! Vic of Sights and Sounds! Heck, i haven’t spoken to the guy in almost 3 years. Is the shop in Shang still open? Will he still consider me as an old customer with it’s perks? All these mental ramblings in a desperate quest for a marginal discount or a large one at that. Happily, his number was still in my phone and dialled it to no shame. He answered and we exchanged pleasantries...I learned that his business is still active but has taken a different approach. In the middle of all the greetings and catching up, I almost rudely interrupted him by asking. Do you have the LGC7? He said “yes”, and I replied “how much?”. All in at 91,500...Still a lot of money but the reputation of Mr.Chua is not something built overnight and for a toy that expensive? Tis better you hand over your money to someone you are comfortable with. Long and short, Sights and Sounds will deliver the TV this coming Monday and i can’t wait to give my impressions and also to hear from experts around here on their respective experience with the OLED technology...
(I didn’t go home immediately after that conversation. I went straight to Data Blitz to buy a PS4 Pro for some 4k gaming content and yes... yes i finally upgraded to an iPhone 5se)
Check you guys soon enough😉
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Bro whats the size of your lgc7? Nice story!
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Bro whats the size of your lgc7? Nice story!
Thank you boss! 55 inches only😉
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Welcome back Sir! Na miss ko yung mga reviews mo dito sa forum.
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Welcome back Sir! Na miss ko yung mga reviews mo dito sa forum.
Salamat sir! Medyo nagsawa din kasi haha
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Salamat sir! Medyo nagsawa din kasi haha
Welcome back sir Carlo777. Update naman agad sa reviews heeh. specially how it fares with your old plasma.
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sir congrats for having the LG OLED display.. hinding hindi ka magsisisi jan..
we'll wait for your reviews and upcoming gears..
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sir congrats for having the LG OLED display.. hinding hindi ka magsisisi jan..
we'll wait for your reviews and upcoming gears..
carlo777 is a legend JeromeA and have long been reviewing tvs here even before ka mag join kaya siguradong di sya magsisi sa binili nya at alam na alam nya ang magandang panel.
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carlo777 is a legend JeromeA and have long been reviewing tvs here even before ka mag join kaya siguradong di sya magsisi sa binili nya at alam na alam nya ang magandang panel.
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+1.
Welcome back sir carlo777.
I missed your reviews too.
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carlo777 is a legend JeromeA and have long been reviewing tvs here even before ka mag join kaya siguradong di sya magsisi sa binili nya at alam na alam nya ang magandang panel.
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yes sir onkyo. nakita ko nga sa buong story nya..
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welcome back sir Carlo! salamat at may legendary review ulit. Kapag nagrereview ka maraming napapabili dito on impulse!
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Samat guys.
@boss comet
Wag naman sana haha
Anyway my first round of impressions:
Build Quality:
Premium feel and build is how i can describe the TV. It doesn’t only look expensive but feels expensive as well. The brush metal stand gives it a classy look and the white back plates give it a very contemporary appeal. Just imagine a 55 inch iPad with a stand.
Screen Quality
The LG C7 has a glossy screen that handles reflections very well. Unless a direct light source is in-front of you the screen does a very good job in blotting out external glares.
Screen uniformity is excellent... best I’ve seen in a long while. Since OLED does not have a back light you don’t have cloudy patches or “light spots” or “bleeding edges”. A grey background does not reveal the so-called “dirty screen” effect. Just on these merits alone the C7 stands above a lot of models in-terms of screen quality.
OLED does have a measure of Image retention but this can be easily wiped clean by using the TVs “Pixel Refresher” - A feature that wipes the screen for about an hour when you shut the TV off. For added protection you can activate the “screen shift” function to enable the unit to subtlety move pixels to prevent static images from “retaining”. So far and despite a marathon of the same PS4 Game (Super Robot Wars V). The screen held well and image retention should not be an issue.
Sound:
Dolby Atmos gives the C7 a better than average sound for a built-in system. There is even an audio calibration tool called “Magic Sound Tuning” to allow you to calibrate the TVs audio based on your rooms acoustics. Its very much like how you would calibrate your HT System. Of coarse it does not beat a dedicated Audio Set up but believe me... for its use...It’s more than passable.
I’ll come back later on how the unit performs in HD, 4k and HDR content🙃
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Again thanks guys for the welcome.
Nagsawa lang ako talaga...there was a time i could not enjoy the TVs bec i was always looking for faults and became too obsessed with perfection.
A little bit older...a little more tolerant but still objective (I hope).
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Interface/Apps
The LG web OS is responsive and easy to navigate. The popular apps like Netflix and Amazon video could easily be accessed via the remote. A few things bother me though:
- The screen pointer for interface is annoying and feels more like a gimmick to me then to be actually helpful (Maybe I just need to get used to it).
- The Info button (Where you could draw up information on the TVs resolution, and status etc etc is not on the remote! You have to click the input icon on the screen to draw this information. It took awhile for me to find it😡
- And I don’t like the look and feel of the remote...it’s glossy so your hands would smudge it (Did i not just say i’m more tolerant now?) And it...it...it looks like a vibrator😉
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congratz on your new C7, sir!
2016 LG LED owner here (and so are my past LED TVs), I find the 'magic" remote too demanding of battery power due to frequent use of the cursor/pointer. too bad that unlike my 2012 LG LED wherein 2 remotes (a regular bar & a magic remote) were provided then.
about the Info button, I think the higher LG OLED models has this on their remote. a single click will show the current media's "information". not sure though if it's available for separate purchase. maybe an LG staff/customer support can confirm if a lower LG OLED model is compatible with a higher LG OLED model's magic remote
sir, very eager here to learn about something without actually trying out myself =) so please allow me to just ask...
with 2017 LG OLEDs innovating with Dolby ATMOS, has their HDMI ports able to successfully pass-through all 8ch metadata -- sent to a Dolby Atmos-capable AVR? otherwise, it'd still be great for the 2017 LG OLEDs to be able to decode and down-mix it into its built-in speakers (may be up to 2.2)... but may lack in meeting the supposed target 8ch or more immersive audio enjoyment for the viewer. current TV's prior 2017 LG OLEDs can only HDMI pass-thru upto 6ch DD/DTS, thus anyone who wants to migrate with ATMOS would be required to buy both an external ATMOS-enabled media player & an ATMOS-capable AVR and speaker set-up.
the reason I'm raising this is to share with other readers/hobbyist/co-members that hopefully now comes the time where we can save on the purchase of an external media players and rely it all upon the TV's built-in 4K processor and built-in 8ch decoder for lossless audios (ATMOS/DTS:X & Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD MA) -- with 8ch audio pass-thru via HDMI ARC/e-ARC =)
tia!
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Welcome back carlo!! :)
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I decided to go to a mall with the intention of buying a quick interior detailer spray. The cleaning agent was unfortunately unavailable so there was no other reason to stay longer(So I thought). However, on my way out, I passed by the SM appliance centre which was close to the hardware shop... just to check out the latest rigs from a hobby i abandoned.
almost same thing happened to me bro; kaso ang plano ko after a few months pa (e.g. december). napabili tuloy 6 months early hehehe
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@ninjababez
Thank you boss! Ingat sa biglang bili:)
Further impressions:
Image quality:
Viewing Angles:
Viewing angles are great on this TV as both contrast and colour held very well from extreme angles. Blacks remain perfect while colours took just a little hit.
HD Broadcast (Cignal HD)
Upscaled well using a 1080i signal. At this size though, I felt the picture was a little bit on the softer side of the fence. Normally, I would bring down the sharpness of HD contents to Zero. For the C7 and for this HD feed, I needed to maintain the default value of 10. Going up to 20 is just fine but don’t add anything more than that. All picture enhancements were also kept off.
Full HD content (Blu-Ray)
Upscaled 1080p signal is superb on this TV. Using the default Cinema settings with all enhancements set to off and the sharpness level at zero... The over all image remained detailed and naturally sharp. Popping in The movie “Dawn of Justice” the C7 delivered well endowed blacks with subtle details still well displayed.
4k Content HDR/Dolby Vision (Netflix)
The C7 looks even better or looks best with a natural 4k content. Watched “Stranger Things” from Netflix and the picture was both sharp and well defined.
Streaming 4k with HDR content from your PS4 Pro will deliver HDR, stream Netflix directly from the C7 and the TV will default to Dolby vision (provided the selected program supports it). My first impression of HDR/Dolby vision was very good. You could actively witness the difference between SDR and HDR very well on the C7 (Just like any HDR 10 capable set). Colours take on a new level of saturation and vividness! Lighting becomes more dazzling and dynamic...However, the default HDR/Dolby Vision standard picture setting may appear jaw dropping at first but tend to look unnatural. Best you use the HDR cinema settings instead for a more natural and refined look.
SDR/HDR Gaming
With 21Ms input response time this set is great for gaming. Plus it does not exhibit motion blur during very fast pans (as exhibited by LCD/LED) or phosphor trails (exhibited by Plasma). HDR gaming is also great but I suggest the default values be toned down by copying either Cinema or ISF values unto the Game Mode (SDR/HDR).
So Far this is turning out to be the best TV I’ve ever had. I’ll give it a few more days before I wrap things up.
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Vs Plasma (As far as I remember it)
Had 3 Panasonic Plasma models in the past namely A V20, C10 and a PX(U)800. Blacks are nearly identical as far back as I can remember, view angles nearly the same. Colour would have to go to the C7 (even without HDR), more vibrant for me. SD content and HD ready (1080i) may have to go to plasma (Sharper). Full HD (1080p) swings to the C7 as picture becomes more well defined (But this could be the C7 upscaling the blu ray to 4k).
I’d go for the OLED simply because it does not have the green/yellow phosphor lag which plagued my plasma models in the past.
OLED is fantastic but for those with very good plasma models like the V20...OLED still trumps it but not by a very wide margin (Pls lets not factor in 4k and HDR).
Now, if you’re coming from Plasma and have held back the upgrade due to the limitations of LED/LCD then the OLED becomes a more than worthy successor — You won’t be disappointed!
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I was about to defer my purchase of an OLED to next year's models but after reading this review.. Mukhang mapapabili na ata ako ulit..hahaha
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Welcome back Carlo :)
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There are times that the story behind the purchase of the gears is even more interesting than how the gears perform after the acquisition. Congrats on your new TV
C777
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welcome back sir Carlo, been missing your TV reviews :)
just a tip on the LG remote, the voice command is a very good feature to use
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mine is Q8C(QLED) but i don't know i just like my old busted F8500 plasma in SDR mode of course...to bad samsung pull the plug for plasma tech support. i really like those plasma tvs the motion was just so outstanding.
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sana meron oled na less reflection like the PANA v20 :) ;) :D ;D
welcome back boss :) ;) :D ;D
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Conclusion:
There are a number of TVs both expensive and cheap that are either great for movies but wanting in video game performance. Others are fast panels with solid input response times but cinema renditions are dull. Good blacks but terrible viewing angles....It’s quite rare for a TV to hit high marks in areas where it matters the most ; Gorgeous blacks, well saturated colours, near perfect viewing angles, fast input response times. Great for Full HD content and greater still for 4k feed with the bells and whistles of what HDR can offer. Oh and a more than decent sound to go with it. The C7 hits them all and hits them with refined near perfection. Bang for the buck? Far from it (it’s darn expensive). You’d be broke but you’d be happy.....no ...VERY VERY HAPPY.
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Thanks again for the welcome guys:) It really has been awhile.
@mhacman
Boss audio talk greek to me:( Sorry i could not really talk about it with some semblance of sense:(
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I was about to defer my purchase of an OLED to next year's models but after reading this review.. Mukhang mapapabili na ata ako ulit..hahaha
That would be ideal if manufacturers consistently evolve their products (LG so far does this). There are times newer models tend to drop in quality over the previous ones. A very frustrating example would be... the Sony X80D from 2016 fared way better than the more current X80E. Now, if you’re looking for the “D” model they will always say “It’s phased out already”.
Unfortunately, the latest is not always the greatest:)
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Welcome back sir. Mukhang tipid mode ako nito para pag nag sale next year tong TV na to.
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Thanks again for the welcome guys:) It really has been awhile.
@mhacman
Boss audio talk greek to me:( Sorry i could not really talk about it with some semblance of sense:(
Noted and no issue with me, sir Carlo777 =)
will find a way to test this myself and share the same -- should I be fortunate to do so...
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That would be ideal if manufacturers consistently evolve their products (LG so far does this). There are times newer models tend to drop in quality over the previous ones. A very frustrating example would be... the Sony X80D from 2016 fared way better than the more current X80E. Now, if you’re looking for the “D” model they will always say “It’s phased out already”.
Unfortunately, the latest is not always the greatest:)
Sony switched a lot of its models to IPS, unfortunately. OLED is truly a great screen platform, and it is continuing to mature (performance improves with every generation while cost continues to go down).
On a different note, 8K is expected to go on sale next year:
http://www.techradar.com/news/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-futuristic-resolution (http://www.techradar.com/news/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-futuristic-resolution)
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Real world recommendation:
My conclusion of the review points out to me recommending this TV based on its stellar performance. And I would and will because its really a gorgeous TV that outperforms most, if not all the competition (Size and price range)... but then, i looked at the price and lets face it. 100k is like a downpayment for a mid size economy sedan!
This is meant to temper the buying crave before you plunge your hard earned cash, max out your card, take a company loan...These are real world recommendations we need to address before we make that commitment.
Hear me out...
If you’ll be watching SD content 60 percent of the time, throwing in a couple of DVDs once in awhile... Then pls there are cheaper models out there that are more “back for the buck” I hope the C7 is not on your list...
If you’re just into gaming and not really much of a movie fan. There are other 4K TVs, that have good input response times with more than decent picture quality for this type of media and saves your money at the same time...The Sony X80E comes to mind. The 80E has the Tri-Luminous component that gives justice to HDR gaming.
If you love movies and play some 4k games. You want to plunge into the world of HDR but budget is really tight...Hey, I don’t blame you! If I can get my hobby fix and still preserve my daily financial commitments, i’d go for it without a wink... and the Samsung MU 406103 (Best entry level 4k TV) will give you just that. Go for the MU6100 series if you want screens larger than 40. They’re pretty good for anything you throw at them...4k movies, HDR media and games.
If you have more cash to spare but still below the asking price of the C7 you can look at the following TVs which will give you credible performance across 4k and HDR. The Samsung MU7000G and the Sony X8500D are models for that.
For those, who really have resources to burn they can go for Sony’s flagship A1 OLED...physically the most beautiful TV I’ve ever seen. The asking price is 150k, Ive read the picture quality is on par with the C7 but the added features may not justify the big price difference...well who knows? It really looks good and I can imagine the unit as the centre piece of a very modern living room😉
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Sony switched a lot of its models to IPS, unfortunately. OLED is truly a great screen platform, and it is continuing to mature (performance improves with every generation while cost continues to go down).
On a different note, 8K is expected to go on sale next year:
http://www.techradar.com/news/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-futuristic-resolution (http://www.techradar.com/news/8k-tv-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-futuristic-resolution)
Don’t even mention 8k😡 I’m trying to get out of this hobby as quickly as I got back into it😆😆😆
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Want to see how good this TV can really perforn? Just watch OKJA from Netflix and see (and hear) Dolby Vision and Atmos in action...happy happy penguin🐧
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Don’t even mention 8k😡 I’m trying to get out of this hobby as quickly as I got back into it😆😆😆
We all know it's gonna happen. ;) It won't make our current TVs any worse so we shouldn't be bothered (unless you're thinking of upgrading again). :D
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No more upgrade thats enough😆
Anyway, i’m off to a partner of mine who still has a pioneer kuro elite:
(Oled vs Plasma)
- Using PS3 not PS4
- 1080p 24 (Signal) No UHD
We’ll see i’m all giddy:)
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About to start Kuro comparison but before that may I add to my review that i noticed some vertical banding on the C7 with a light gray background...did a research and it appears that this is an OLED/LG issue. Not a big deal though:)
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^ i hope that certical banding doesnt get worse over time. Its distracting talaga.
Carlo cant wait to hear johnny’s reaction hahaha
Your reviews are always fun to read, never boring but very scary lol (mapapagastos ka talaga)
You should start doing this professionally para you can get your hands on the best tvs for free
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Ps pasa momsa akin after ka magsawa lol
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No more upgrade thats enough😆
Ps pasa momsa akin after ka magsawa lol
bakit malakas kutob ko na mangyayari ito soon! ;D
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Sir Carlo, just wondering if you compared the LG OLED with Samsung's QLED, and what are your observations if you did?
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Thanks Ricky...wait til you get a load of this:
Kuro vs OLED scenario:
When I want to do something and I know I have the capacity and the capability to get it done. I wouldn’t wait —� No matter the “hassle”.
The test required both units be brought together in one place. The Kuro being the heavier of the two and since I was the one egging for the test. I had to bring the TV to the house of my friend where the Kuro was.
Challenge 1:
To box and unbox the TV when I leave and arrive the target area is a complete waste of time. Now lifting the C7 will require 2 sets of hands (No problemo) —�- To lift it without smudging was the actual challenge! Normally, i’d use micro fibre clothes over my hands to prevent finger prints (I hate them... both on my cars and TVs). However, all cleaning clothes at that time were damp and wet because we just washed the vehicles. If I use them, the TV may get water stains😉 Bad idea! And if I use my shirts —� My partner in life will be totally pissed. Next best thing? Aha! My underpants(unused of coarse)! One for each hand. And with the guard to help me carry the C7... that will make four! (4 sets of underpants). Calling the poor fellow and throwing him my jocks, I told him to “wear” them and on my signal “lift” . With less than stellar enthusiasm we carefully lifted the thing and made our way to the garage.
Challenge 2:
Garage scenario was no better...Kc used the SUV and all that remained were 2 roadsters and none of them can sensibly and possibly ferry the LG. Time to call the warehouse and ask for a delivery van (an open one) to bring the TV. The hassle free way is to have the helper and the guard hold the TV at the back of the van. While I take my car and ask them follow me to the site. But nooooo I’d rather hold my precious thank you...so off we go... TV in toe along with the jocks (the other 2 sets now unceremoniously handed over from guard to helper).
The Set Up:
Arriving, we unloaded the stuff and my Brit friend immediately noticed the “improvised” gloves. Having known me for a long time, he was able to expertly deduce why they were used in the first place. He just quickly motioned us in, turned around, uttering the word “Mental” over and over again while we propped mighty Kuro and flashy C7 near each other.
The 150FD was an imposing figure, all decked in black with a glossy black frame around it (Almost looking like Darth Vader with a flowing cape)...A gold emblem was the only contrast to this Sith Lord ominous appearance. The Plasma had panel scratches, swirls on the bezel and even chips on the sides. It has seen better days but it hasn’t seen a better TV. The Kuro reigns as the centre piece of my friends entertainment system with an air of confidence and a sense of irreplaceability.
The C7 (on the other hand) strangely mirrored its presented rival. Also in black and also lacking garishness in design. Aside from being razor thin, it was only set apart by it’s unusually white back panel. They posses the same spirt but very different souls drove them.
One held the past unsurpassed with a perceived legacy of untouchability that holds to the present. The other represented the new and a vision of what could be...
Testing😉
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Waiting for your results. I still have a couple of Kuros and haven’t felt the urge to upgrade until these 4K Oleds came around.
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What is the size difference? Cant seem to remember who but there is this client of mine who also still has the mighty kuro as his main monitor. He was thinking of replacing it with a bigger panel and even comtimplated on an entry level sony pj. I just said your are better off with the kuro, wait for it to retire na lang. there is no upgrade for a kuro really hahaha.
And the suspense continues... back to regular programming.
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Player used for the Test: (Round 1)
PS3 set to limited RGB and 1080p
Pioneer and C7 set to default Movie/Cinema
Test Movie: Dawn of Justice (Blu-Ray)
Black Level: Both delivered similar levels of black with the C7 presenting more subtle details.
Colour: C7 displayed more vibrant colours over the Kuro. Very subjective and our group was divided here. I liked the more subdued colours of the Kuro but most (Even the owner of the Kuro) preferred the more vibrant colours of the C7.
Motion Handling: Same (from how we observed it)
From this round we can say that if you’ll stick with 1080p content and would view the TV from 7 feet away it will not make any sense to upgrade from a Kuro. The Kuro is still one hell of a TV for FULL HD SDR content and will trump most if not all LED based performers.
Round 2: A touchy round because here we allowed the C7 to flex its full muscle against what the best the Kuro can do.
LGC7 paired with a UPBx1000 4k player from Sony with a 4k Blu Ray copy of “Dawn of Justice”
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Pioneer 60 paired with a PS3 and a regular Blu Ray copy of “Dawn of Justice”
Not a fair apples to apples comparison...We know but the purpose of the test is to find out if a Kuro owner should jump in the bandwagon of 4K HDR despite having the best of what the past offered.
Results:
C7 (because it was playing a native 4k media) was sharper, more defined and with HDR on... It was a sight to behold (Do note: This is the first time I’m actually seeing a native 4k Blu-Ray in action)! Quite different from the 4k stream i saw with Netflix. This was nearly picture perfect most of the way. One of our companions used the term...The Kuro is still beautiful but looked somewhat “dated” in contrast to the rendition of the C7 with all the new tech factored in.
We agreed that Kuro owners (at least my friend) did not have a strong enough reason to hop unto 4k simply because The plasma was and still is a splendid performer. My friend needed a strong vehicle to usher an appreciation of these new picture technologies. And gladly OLED is/was the vehicle (not LED) that gave him that appreciation. He’ll buy a 65 LGc7 or a Sony A1 (I’ll help him choose this coming weekend).
What a freaking day!
Time to go home (Now where are my underpants???)
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What a journey!
Thank you sir Carlo. This is giving me a new upgrade itch. Hahaha!
HDR is indeed an interesting technology, I love it because it kinda forced the panel manufacturers to move to 10-bit colors 1.03B colors vs 16M colors in 8-bit. But there is one gray area for HDR and it concerns whites and blacks and this holds true even for the professional monitors we use in production. OLED screens are great in rendering blacks whilst traditional panels are great in rendering whites; this is where HDR specifcations gets tricky because both panels can't do entire range (black to white) they settled for a range (which is still better than SDR, btw). I don't have the the exact numbers with me but think of it this way, if the entire range is 0-100, OLEDs can do 0-90 while tradional panels IPS can do 10-100.
Why am I saying this? Because it might be a good enough reason to hold on to that Kuro tv. But then again, I've been holding on to my LG LH70 for too long already waiting for the next big thing. Maybe they'll find a way for thay 0-100 thing soon?
As for 8K, i saw earlier this year a huge 8k tv on sale from Sharp I think. Still like the LG OLED though. On the production side, Sharp recently announced their 8k camera for TV broadcast (RED cinema cameras released their 8k camera last year) which is rumored to be used for the upcoming olympics. This is good news, this means 4k prices will go down, HAHAHHA.
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What a journey!
Thank you sir Carlo. This is giving me a new upgrade itch. Hahaha!
HDR is indeed an interesting technology, I love it because it kinda forced the panel manufacturers to move to 10-bit colors 1.03B colors vs 16M colors in 8-bit. But there is one gray area for HDR and it concerns whites and blacks and this holds true even for the professional monitors we use in production. OLED screens are great in rendering blacks whilst traditional panels are great in rendering whites; this is where HDR specifcations gets tricky because both panels can't do entire range (black to white) they settled for a range (which is still better than SDR, btw). I don't have the the exact numbers with me but think of it this way, if the entire range is 0-100, OLEDs can do 0-90 while tradional panels IPS can do 10-100.
Why am I saying this? Because it might be a good enough reason to hold on to that Kuro tv. But then again, I've been holding on to my LG LH70 for too long already waiting for the next big thing. Maybe they'll find a way for thay 0-100 thing soon?
As for 8K, i saw earlier this year a huge 8k tv on sale from Sharp I think. Still like the LG OLED though. On the production side, Sharp recently announced their 8k camera for TV broadcast (RED cinema cameras released their 8k camera last year) which is rumored to be used for the upcoming olympics. This is good news, this means 4k prices will go down, HAHAHHA.
Thats a fine read buddy! Hoping 8k does come but not too soon...
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He’ll buy a 65 LGc7 or a Sony A1 (I’ll help him choose this coming weekend).
What a freaking day!
Time to go home (Now where are my underpants???)
Sir Carlo,
Check out also the Panasonic OLED TVs >:D
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Would love to test the Panny OLED but I simply have no access to it. We’ll review the Sony A1 though😉
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In Retrospect:
Last night everyone drooled over what OLED can do with the right vehicle driving it...but for me the eye opener was the Kuro Plasma. Now, thats what I call money well spent...nearly 9 years! 9 years before it was forced to punch above its weight class. I do remember my friend saying it cost him over 5,000 dollars to buy that thing. And if you could forget about HDR and Dolby Vision and you’re not into 4k gaming. The Kuro can still stay with you til it finally breaks down (ok, broken or unbroken 3 more years tops!) or until more mind boggling tech comes in (8k😡).
Anyway, spent the remaining night re-setting up my “winner by split decision” C7 and “detailing” it. Could you imagine after all the hassle to prevent the smudges, it was totally crapped out by finger prints during the testing period??? Wanted to slap the hands of peeps pointing out subtle details during the review (Joke half meant). Thank the good Lord for Meguiar’s quick interior detailer! Wiped out the finger prints and oily smudges in one go.
It’s 9am and I missed my planned back road antics in Rizal but no matter...with Marvel vs Capcom infinite inside my whirling PS4 pro and on the LG55C7 “Life is good” Then... Kc wakes up and asks “Hon did you sleep na? I go...”no”...she grabs the game controller and shuts off my TV and gives the stare (as i write) to put down my phone and call it a day...
Life is good...sometimes😴
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Thanks for the interesting way to share a review. I have a B6 55 in my bedroom and LG OLEDs are really fun to watch at esp at 4k streaming from netflix. Soon i will get myself a native 4k bd to maximize it fully. Lastly, as in my house, Wifey prevails, most of the time.
Pls make your Sony OLED review soon as i am eyeing this for my Living Room soon.
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Thanks for the interesting way to share a review. I have a B6 55 in my bedroom and LG OLEDs are really fun to watch at esp at 4k streaming from netflix. Soon i will get myself a native 4k bd to maximize it fully. Lastly, as in my house, Wifey prevails, most of the time.
Pls make your Sony OLED review soon as i am eyeing this for my Living Room soon.
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Thank you! Maybe this Friday we’ll have the review up.
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Thank you! Maybe this Friday we’ll have the review up.
I await
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^ i hope that certical banding doesnt get worse over time. Its distracting talaga.
Carlo cant wait to hear johnny’s reaction hahaha
Your reviews are always fun to read, never boring but very scary lol (mapapagastos ka talaga)
You should start doing this professionally para you can get your hands on the best tvs for free
Thanks Ricky!
Free TV? Haha I’d rather review cars:) Free TVs hmmm
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Lastly, as in my house, Wifey prevails, most of the time.
Pls make your Sony OLED review soon as i am eyeing this for my Living Room soon.
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The wife??? You let the wife decide? What kind of a man lets his wife dictate to
him his pleasures??? You ought to stand tall and make em kneel and...”Hon Hon...Carlo get your car out of the drive way right now!”...”Right away deary” 😁
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The wife??? You let the wife decide? What kind of a man lets his wife dictate to
him his pleasures??? You ought to stand tall and make em kneel and...”Hon Hon...Carlo get your car out of the drive way right now!”...”Right away deary” 😁
Yeah! Way to go! We're THE MAN. Ginagawa ko lahat ng ayaw niya. That's how stubborn and powerful I am.
She doesn't want to do the dishes? I do.
She doesn't want to clean the bedroom, I DO!
REAL MEN RULES!
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Yeah! Way to go! We're THE MAN. Ginagawa ko lahat ng ayaw niya. That's how stubborn and powerful I am.
She doesn't want to do the dishes? I do.
She doesn't want to clean the bedroom, I DO!
REAL MEN RULES!
You got that right!
The female is one of the few created beings with tremendous power even on bended knees nyahaha...tama na tama na
Back to topic:
The C7’s black level remains constant....(Why doesn’t this sound too intetesting anymore🤔)
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You got that right!
The female is one of the few created beings with tremendous power even on bended knees nyahaha...tama na tama na
Back to topic:
The C7’s black level remains constant....(Why doesn’t this sound too intetesting anymore🤔)
That's cuz your drooling over the 8k. ;D
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Thanks Ricky!
Free TV? Haha I’d rather review cars:) Free TVs hmmm
Hard to get free cars, but free tvs hmmmm a lot easier.
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@Carlo
One of the best reviews I've read so far. Sobrang galing ng narrative mo Sir, hindi boring basahin.
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@Carlo
One of the best reviews I've read so far. Sobrang galing ng narrative mo Sir, hindi boring basahin.
Thank you sir! I’ve had boring reviews in the past. The circumstances surrounding the activities with this TV have just been “out of the ordinary”
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try pairing it with a Panasonic 4k player or an OPPO :)
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Just to let you guys know that we will be upgrading this TV to a 65 inch version.
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bilis!
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Why OLED isn’t for you:
Apart from the price here are some good reasons why you may want to avoid it...despite stellar reviews😉
1. Size : The smallest OLED stands at 55 inches and hey not everyone has the space for it. A lot of people are still looking for 40 inches and yes even smaller. 32 inches anyone? If you’re not into big TVs...This is one technology you can avoid.
2. Bright Room Viewing: The Blacks of this TV are perfect and so are the colours (Ok near perfect). But if you like watching in rooms with a lot of lights — You’re better of with LED technology. OLED is not the brightest TV in the pack and a lot of lights can blur out the details of the content you’re watching...The glossy screen does a good job at funnelling the reflections but OLED lacks the fiery brilliance of LED to truly shine in a very well lit environment.
3. Image Retention: Just like Plasma OLED is prone to I.Rs. And yes it has safe guard measures to prevent permanent burn-in but I will (because of the price) never make this my dedicated gaming display.
Well there you go. Much praise deserves much caution as well. So think about these points before you commit to arguably one of the best TV technology to come in awhile😁
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Just to let you guys know that we will be upgrading this TV to a 65 inch version.
How's your 65inch bro? haha Btw, how di you calibrate the TV pala? Nagreset kasi ako nawala yung mga settings haha
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Back from tagaytay? Very fast!
I’ll check my calibrated settings. Will you be using the TV in a dark room?
Hows it so far?
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Back from tagaytay? Very fast!
I’ll check my calibrated settings. Will you be using the TV in a dark room?
Hows it so far?
No not yet.. Monday pa kami uwi haha... Excited nanga ako umuwi.. Will be using it in a dark room :) Pero sa morning may konting sunlight na pumapasok
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No not yet.. Monday pa kami uwi haha... Excited nanga ako umuwi.. Will be using it in a dark room :) Pero sa morning may konting sunlight na pumapasok
Based on the B6 model which is very similar to the C7:
https://youtu.be/HXwFi3E1K0g
Hard to be stuck with social obligations when a “toy” is waiting!
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two of my office mates are considering this model.... pwede daw makuha 92k straight or cash hehee may mas mura pa kaya? ::)
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Based on the B6 model which is very similar to the C7:
https://youtu.be/HXwFi3E1K0g
Hard to be stuck with social obligations when a “toy” is waiting!
Hahaha yes exactly... Tapos coding pako sa Monday kaya late makakauwi.. Thank you for the settings.. Will try it pag uwi! Saw one din sa RTINGS pero di ko sure how to follow the settings for white balance and the other one.. And they have a disclaimer na settings are different daw per TV..
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two of my office mates are considering this model.... pwede daw makuha 92k straight or cash hehee may mas mura pa kaya? ::)
I think lowest sa OLX is around 90k? Last week mga 89k sya :)
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My Oh my!!!
My hon just said i get the E7! She’ll pay for the difference daw...instead of the C7 na 65...And all this just becuse walang stock yung interior detail spray kaya na padaan sa Sm appliances!!!
Tama na (confused). I really want to see this E7 before my GF plucks an additional 100k for something that could just be similar to the C7....
(Shaking like that of a guy fresh from withdrawal)
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Why not go for Sony A1
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Why not go for Sony A1
Being considered (heavily)🤔
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Get the 65c7 sir Carlo, with the price difference you can already get the best 4K Bluray Players such as the Oppo 203 and Panasonic UB900 :)
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The Panasonic 65EZ1000 is at Php 250,000 in Ansons >:D
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Should i get the 55c7 or the nano sj8500? Please brothers, need your expert advise that would get me the best bang of the bucks.. Thanks in advance.
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Should i get the 55c7 or the nano sj8500? Please brothers, need your expert advise that would get me the best bang of the bucks.. Thanks in advance.
If your budget permits you in getting the 55c7, then by all means... BUY IT!!! ;)
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Should i get the 55c7 or the nano sj8500? Please brothers, need your expert advise that would get me the best bang of the bucks.. Thanks in advance.
depends on your budget really, I would advise not to overspend as this is not a necessity ... I have the 55 SJ8500 and very satisfied with it, but if I my budget permitted, i would've bought the 55c7, but I would've sold one of my kidneys :)
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@Tin@note2
YOLO YOLO.......GO GO OLED ;D
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Wow just read this one! Good to have you back sir Carlo777. Makes me want to buy a new TV
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Wow just read this one! Good to have you back sir Carlo777. Makes me want to buy a new TV
Me too. 65” oled. LG or Sony. Dami lang upcoming expenditures kaya defer muna.
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It’s really hard to put a “bang for your buck” tag on TVs that are quite expensive. What is the “more” you want to “bang” your buck for? The choices you have presented unfortunately do not favour the SJ8590. I’ve seen it and blacks are just as good as an entry level Sammy MU6103 (and that TV is pretty darn cheap). So, i feel that you actually pay more for the SJ 8500 because you get near entry level image quality for mid range to upper mid range price. The OLED on the other hand may not be “bang buck” for obvious reasons but you can be assured that as of today (not Tomorrow) it’s the most beautiful TV (IQ wise) out there. And if you have the budget I think going for superiority is a better way “bang” wise. The Sony X90e is the closest rival to the C7 and can match the OLED in a bright room environment because of it’s high peek brightness...for me, that would be the better alternative.
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Thank you for the inputs mga bossing.
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i think the closest rival of C7 is the samsung's Q8 not sony's X900E in my opinion..
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Wheres the Cheapest 65 inch C7?
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Try mo si vic, although other sellers tinatapatan nila lowest market price, iba pa din si sns. Yun service nya walang kapares. Tried it sa 3yr old 80" tv ng client ko, isang tawag lang kay vic sya na nag asikaso na mapuntahan ng sharp yun tv.
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Wow just read this one! Good to have you back sir Carlo777. Makes me want to buy a new TV
Thank you boss! It’s that time of the year:)
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Super addicted to this TV..currently using it for 4k gaming and some movies.. Ganda talaga PQ 😍😍😍 .. I am using nalang the technicolor setting na default then adjusted nalang the oled light..
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Super addicted to this TV..currently using it for 4k gaming and some movies.. Ganda talaga PQ 😍😍😍 .. I am using nalang the technicolor setting na default then adjusted nalang the oled light..
That’s very nice to hear. Technicolor is a good setting as well.
Run the pixel refresher after intense rounds of gaming:)
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That’s very nice to hear. Technicolor is a good setting as well.
Run the pixel refresher after intense rounds of gaming:)
Ok bro noted :) Di ko pa natry irun yun.. Irun ko later..Nakabili ka na ng 65?
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Some LG goodness before it was sold to the ice:)
Still the best looking TV i’ve ever seen (Til now)
https://ibb.co/gEQRTR
https://ibb.co/g6wBv6
https://ibb.co/h1UWv6
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Thanks for the great review. Jumped in and bought one from SnS .... :)
(https://s10.postimg.org/yyv09nbsp/2017-12-31_15.45.50.jpg)
(https://s10.postimg.org/44nrbxdvt/2017-12-31_15.46.24.jpg)
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Cheapest LG 65c7 I am seeing right now is Php 149K...
Ano mga fearless forecast nyo na date at further price reduction? Hehehe
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For sure the price will slowly come down, saw in the news about the LG 88" OLED 8K Tv for upcoming CES in Vegas.
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Cheapest LG 65c7 I am seeing right now is Php 149K...
Ano mga fearless forecast nyo na date at further price reduction? Hehehe
65 OLEDs will be 99T in 3 years time.
I should be able to retire my LED TVs by then :D
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Hello LG OLED Users - kamusta po yun image retention especially for those frequent viewers of Cignal channels? (since may Cignal logo). I am reading the article on rtings.com but I can't seem to figure out what is the bottomline of that test :) Thank you!
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Hello LG OLED Users - kamusta po yun image retention especially for those frequent viewers of Cignal channels? (since may Cignal logo). I am reading the article on rtings.com but I can't seem to figure out what is the bottomline of that test :) Thank you!
Ako sir never ko pa naencounter yung image retention.. Nililipat ko lang lagi channel mga every 10mins hehehe
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Ako sir never ko pa naencounter yung image retention.. Nililipat ko lang lagi channel mga every 10mins hehehe
Thank you po! Are you on Cignal po? The problem is that Cignal logo is always there that's why I have some apprehensions :)
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Thank you po! Are you on Cignal po? The problem is that Cignal logo is always there that's why I have some apprehensions :)
Yes sir.. Cigal din :)
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Yes sir.. Cigal din :)
Thank you po! :) I just called Cignal Customer Support now, there is currently no way to remove that logo but they will 'escalate' it daw, hehe :)
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Thank you po! :) I just called Cignal Customer Support now, there is currently no way to remove that logo but they will 'escalate' it daw, hehe :)
Maganda nga yan.. Tanggalin na nila! hahaha
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Hello LG OLED Users - kamusta po yun image retention especially for those frequent viewers of Cignal channels? (since may Cignal logo). I am reading the article on rtings.com but I can't seem to figure out what is the bottomline of that test :) Thank you!
Hoping other LG OLED users would give their feedback/comments...I am having a difficult time justifying the price vs the potential problems since I don't replace TVs every 2 years...and this forum thread is giving me a lot of 2nd thoughts:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/2927390-2017-lg-oled-burn-pictures-8.html
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Bar none this TV along with the Sony OLED are the most beautiful models I’ve have had and have respectively. For me OLED is the new plasma with technological advancements in image quailty that fully utilises HDR and Dolby Vision.
The built-in Pixel refresher will take care of stuck images so don’t worry too much about it.
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Bar none this TV along with the Sony OLED are the most beautiful models I’ve have had and have respectively. For me OLED is the new plasma with technological advancements in image quailty that fully utilises HDR and Dolby Vision.
The built-in Pixel refresher will take care of stuck images so don’t worry too much about it.
Oh, thank you for that Sir Carlo! Been following your posts and reviews since 2009 :)
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Hoping other LG OLED users would give their feedback/comments...I am having a difficult time justifying the price vs the potential problems since I don't replace TVs every 2 years...and this forum thread is giving me a lot of 2nd thoughts:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/2927390-2017-lg-oled-burn-pictures-8.html
If this is the only thing preventing you from buying this TV then I would say, you do not have to worry. Image burn-in is very unlikely to happen in real world watching. Rtings run those tests to intentionally cause a burn-in. LG is very proactive in dealing with these issues, thus equipping the C7 with Pixel Orbiter (for static images) and Pixel Refresher which runs every 4 hours of continous watching. If you were a former plasma TV owner which is also prone to image burn-in, you will surely know how to handle an OLED TV. Warning though, watching this TV specially in a dark room in Dolby Vision and HDR is so addictive that you wouldn’t be satisfied with LED TVs anymore, even with local dimming techonology. Follow what your wallet and your heart tells you:-)
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Oh, thank you for that Sir Carlo! Been following your posts and reviews since 2009 :)
Thanks Buddy! The TV is really very good. Don’t let a few hicks keep you from a true wonder.
@Octaver11
Great advise esp the following the heart thing...I often do that and it gets me into a lot of trouble BUT i always end up happy...
Anyway...Thats the whole point of why we do, what we do, when we do:)
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Do you guys have an idea on how to properly set-up HDMI ARC? Triny ko kasi HDMI 1 then nakaset audio out to optical/hdmi ARC then sa Onkyo/Yamaha ok naman HDMI CEC setting.. But di parin nagoutput nf audio :( Thank you :)
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Anyone experience OLED burn in here?
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Anyone experience OLED burn in here?
Bar none this TV along with the Sony OLED are the most beautiful models I’ve have had and have respectively. For me OLED is the new plasma with technological advancements in image quailty that fully utilises HDR and Dolby Vision.
The built-in Pixel refresher will take care of stuck images so don’t worry too much about it.