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Title: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 10, 2020 at 01:49 PM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/10/20/read-statement-of-abs-cbn-on-osgs-quo-warranto-petition-we-did-not-violate-the-law

STATEMENT OF ABS-CBN ON OSG’S QUO WARRANTO PETITION: WE DID NOT VIOLATE THE LAW
 
The Office of the Solicitor General’s filing of a quo warranto case against ABS-CBN on alleged violations of its franchise appears to be an effort to shut down ABS-CBN to the serious prejudice of millions of Filipinos who rely on the network for news, entertainment and public service.
 
These allegations cited by the Office of the Solicitor General in his press statement are without merit. ABS-CBN complies with all pertinent laws governing its franchise and has secured all necessary government and regulatory approvals for its business operations.
 
(1)    All our broadcast offerings, including KBO, have received the necessary government and regulatory approvals and are not prohibited by our franchise. 
 
(2)    ABS-CBN Holdings’ Philippine Deposit Receipts or PDRs were evaluated and approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Philippine Stock Exchange prior to its public offering. These are the same instruments used by other broadcast companies to raise capital for the improvement of services.
 
(3)    The ownership of ABS-CBN in ABS-CBN Convergence was undertaken under the same law and structures that have been utilized by other telecommunications companies. These are transfers that are approved under the Public Telecommunications Policy Act and are fully compliant with law. 
 
We reiterate that everything we do is in accordance with the law. We did not violate the law. This case appears to be an attempt to deprive Filipinos of the services of ABS-CBN. 
KBO remains one of the cheapest forms of entertainment that we can provide to the public. The capital we have raised from the PDRs has enabled us to provide services to nearly 90 percent of the Philippines and to our OFW’s all over the world. Our work with ABS-CBN Convergence supports the government policy of finding ways to bring down the cost of internet access.
 
The Senate, the House of Representatives, and the Executive Branch have assured the public that our franchise will be allowed to go through the proper renewal process in a fair manner. To that end, the filing of the quo warranto case is ill-timed given that Congress has already resumed its session.
 
We remain committed to our mission to serve the Filipino people especially at this time when millions of Filipinos rely on our services in delivering information such as the 2019 NCoV ARD, the developments in the Middle East, and updates on Taal Volcano situation as they relate to our countrymen.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 10, 2020 at 02:05 PM
If ABS-CBN is compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny. I believe Digong simply does not want 'Probinsiyano.'  so the key is to end the show and Digong will withdraw the case.  ;D
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Post by: yapoy86 on Feb 10, 2020 at 02:38 PM
Pinababa ang presyo para madaling mabile ng friend...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Feb 10, 2020 at 03:33 PM
If ABS-CBN is compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny. I believe Digong simply does not want 'Probinsiyano.'  so the key is to end the show and Digong will withdraw the case.  ;D

If you will just objectively open your eyes to what is happening to this country, you would know that it doesn't matter if you comply and follow the law to the letter. Kapag napagtrip-an ka ni Duterte, Calida et.al, may kalalagyan ka. At kahit pa maswertihan mo makalusot sa mga kasong isasampa laban sayo, alam mo talo ka sa gastos, oras at perwisyong pagdadaanan mo. Samantalang si Calida eh di naman nya pera ginagastos sa pagsampa ng mga kaso!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 10, 2020 at 03:40 PM
If ABS-CBN is compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny. I believe Digong simply does not want 'Probinsiyano.'  so the key is to end the show and Digong will withdraw the case.  ;D

Same can be said of Duterte's SALN.  If it's compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny.  So why hide it?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: dpogs on Feb 10, 2020 at 04:21 PM
Same can be said of Duterte's SALN.  If it's compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny.  So why hide it?


only applies sa kalaban ni du30... sa mga kaalyado at sa mismong presidente... exempted...

tanga lang talaga ang natutuwa pa sa ganyang scenario...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 10, 2020 at 07:02 PM
Same can be said of Duterte's SALN.  If it's compliant with the requirements of the law, then it should open its doors for any legal scrutiny.  So why hide it?


Correct! So better file the case just like what Calida did and let the court answer the legal question.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 10, 2020 at 07:10 PM
If you will just objectively open your eyes to what is happening to this country, you would know that it doesn't matter if you comply and follow the law to the letter. Kapag napagtrip-an ka ni Duterte, Calida et.al, may kalalagyan ka. At kahit pa maswertihan mo makalusot sa mga kasong isasampa laban sayo, alam mo talo ka sa gastos, oras at perwisyong pagdadaanan mo. Samantalang si Calida eh di naman nya pera ginagastos sa pagsampa ng mga kaso!

They are using the law to run after their enemies at least. Better than taking the law into their hands. The intention? Multiple. One is political.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 10, 2020 at 07:46 PM
Correct! So better file the case just like what Calida did and let the court answer the legal question.

File a case?  Is that possible?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 10, 2020 at 07:59 PM
They are using the law to run after their enemies at least. Better than taking the law into their hands. The intention? Multiple. One is political.

I wonder which law you are talking about that permits the Sol Gen to cancel franchises?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Feb 10, 2020 at 08:50 PM
They are using the law to run after their enemies at least. Better than taking the law into their hands. The intention? Multiple. One is political.

How is it any better? Kasi dinaan sa legal na proseso? You are the government and you are using the full force of the law for personal vendetta. Di naman ganyan ang intention ng batas natin. We all know this is a no-win situation for ABS CBN and it's a win-win situation for Calida for reasons I stated above.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 10, 2020 at 08:55 PM
Parang yung kay Sereno lang. Since hawak ni Duterte ang SC I would expect it to rule in favor of the government.

Marami ako nababasa na dapat daw magbayad ng tax ang abs. Pero wala naman ako nababasa na nagsampa ng kaso ang BIR against abs. Kaya eto na naman si quo waranto, na biglang applicable na lang sa lahat.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 10, 2020 at 09:12 PM
How is it any better? Kasi dinaan sa legal na proseso? You are the government and you are using the full force of the law for personal vendetta. Di naman ganyan ang intention ng batas natin. We all know this is a no-win situation for ABS CBN and it's a win-win situation for Calida for reasons I stated above.
Let the court decide. Its better to go through the system, and that is if you believe in it. If you dont then nobody should question your thoughts.

The govt is a juridical entity. It can sue and itself be sued.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 10, 2020 at 09:14 PM
I wonder which law you are talking about that permits the Sol Gen to cancel franchises?

Cancelled by Calida? Really?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 10, 2020 at 09:16 PM
Cancelled by Calida? Really?

Isn't Calida requesting the Supreme Court to revoke the franchise of ABS CBN via quo warranto?

So what's that law that permits Calida to request the Supreme Court of the same?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Feb 10, 2020 at 09:19 PM
Let the court decide. Its better to go through the system, and that is if you believe in it. If you dont then nobody should question your thoughts.

The govt is a juridical entity. It can sue and itself be sued.

Ganun pa din, wala pa din pinagbago.  ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 10, 2020 at 09:41 PM
Parang yung kay Sereno lang. Since hawak ni Duterte ang SC I would expect it to rule in favor of the government.


I was thinking the same when they uaed this quo warranto to expel Sereno. Tingin ko magkaiba ang kahihinatnan ng paggamit ni Calida ngayon kasi most magistrates wanted her out in the beginning due to her qualifications. May personal reasons ang karamihan sa kanila kaya talo si Sereno. They didn’t look at the merits kasi na single out talaga sya. Obvious naman eh, hindi mo kailangang maging abugado pa para makita ang galaw ng mga yan. Halatang halata naman eh tapos playing to Duterte’s audience ang karamihan sa SC.

Natawa ako, nagpalabas na ang ABS-CBN ng ads appealing to the viewer’s sympathy. I want to see how it goes in the coming daya till expiration. Mas masaya kasi maraming solons at senators na umepal at kampi sa network. Magkakasubukan na tapos pag talo ulit ang DDS hugas kamay ang palasyo na walang nangyari.

Hindi kikilos ang solicitor general na walang direktiba ng palasyo. Yan ang papel ng OSG bukod pa sa DOJ. Matigas ang mukha nyang si Calida kahit pa matalo.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 11, 2020 at 03:54 PM
ABS-CBN should face this squarely without appealing to all for support if they believe that no violation was done.  ;)
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 11, 2020 at 04:05 PM
ABS-CBN should face this squarely without appealing to all for support if they believe that no violation was done.  ;)

Why would you deny if indeed ABS CBN is "appealing to all for support"?  Hindi ba they are saying nga this quo warranto is akin to denial of freedom of speech?  So if you want them to stop appealing to all for support, isn't that a denial of the freedom of speech thereby proving they are correct?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 11, 2020 at 04:20 PM
Who denies? It is just an opinion. An appeal for political support, somehow diminishes its position of strength. If ABS CBN  believes they have not done any wrong, they can as well simply laugh it off because in finality the court can see that. This is not an issue on the freedom of the press!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 11, 2020 at 04:47 PM
Who denies? It is just an opinion. An appeal for political support, somehow diminishes its position of strength. If ABS CBN  believe they have not done any wrong, they can as well simply laugh it off because in finality the court can see that. This is how I see this.

Then I would respect that opinion. But would that opinion be equally applied as well to Duterte?  Duterte's appeal for political support also diminishes his position of strength?  Like for example always justifying  anything related to China. 
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 12, 2020 at 09:05 AM
Then I would respect that opinion. But would that opinion be equally applied as well to Duterte?  Duterte's appeal for political support also diminishes his position of strength?  Like for example always justifying  anything related to China. 

Digong is Pro-China and anti US, what can u expect?
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Post by: frequenzy on Feb 12, 2020 at 11:12 AM
Just saw in the news, 1day after mag file si Calida sa SC. Tinalakay agad sa en banc yung kaso, SC is now giving abs 10 days to respond. Sa dami ng pending cases sa SC ambilis kapag si duterte nagsabi. Parang wala na talagang separation of powers.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 12, 2020 at 11:26 AM
Just saw in the news, 1day after mag file si Calida sa SC. Tinalakay agad sa en banc yung kaso, SC is now giving abs 10 days to respond. Sa dami ng pending cases sa SC ambilis kapag si duterte nagsabi. Parang wala na talagang separation of powers.

Ang bilis di ba?  Samantala yun petition if the president can unilaterally cancel our ICC treaty membership naka pending pa rin sa SC. June 2018 pa yata yun.
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Post by: jerix on Feb 12, 2020 at 11:30 AM
Urgent yan e haha jan nakasalalay ang istorya sa probinsyano! ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 12, 2020 at 11:49 AM
Urgent yan e haha jan nakasalalay ang istorya sa probinsyano! ;D

Bakit hindi ba urgent din yun  ICC petition in light of the VFA being unilaterally abrogated?   ;D
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Post by: tigkal on Feb 12, 2020 at 11:56 AM
Bakit hindi ba urgent din yun  ICC petition in light of the VFA being unilaterally abrogated?   ;D
Wala naman kasi 11k employees affected doon sa ICC. Normally, urgent yung may affected na filipinos sa tingin ko.
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Post by: JeromeA on Feb 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM
hindi kasi mapatay si cardo. kaya ABS CBN nalang papatayin.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 12, 2020 at 12:41 PM
Wala naman kasi 11k employees affected doon sa ICC. Normally, urgent yung may affected na filipinos sa tingin ko.

Di ba affected yun families ng 20k or so ejk victims sa decision ng Supreme Court?
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Post by: frequenzy on Feb 12, 2020 at 12:41 PM
Wala naman kasi 11k employees affected doon sa ICC. Normally, urgent yung may affected na filipinos sa tingin ko.
buti sana kung yung 11k employees ang pinaglalaban ng government, kaso hindi eh, sila nagpapatanggal dun sa 11k kapag wala ng abs.

yes it would hurt the lopez/owners but it will be devastating sa mga rank and file employees nila. tapos yung government wala naman gagawin para matulungan yun.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jerix on Feb 12, 2020 at 12:46 PM
Digong galit sa ABS CBN kasi di inilabas commercial daw nya during the election kahit nagbayad siya. The question is, ibinalik ba yung ibinayad nya? Unfair nga naman if hindi ibinalik, Lalo na at milyon ang usapan diyan.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 12, 2020 at 12:48 PM
Digong galit sa ABS CBN kasi di inilabas commercial daw nya during the election kahit nagbayad siya. The question is, ibinalik ba yung ibinayad nya? Unfair nga naman if hindi ibinalik, Lalo na at milyon ang usapan diyan.

So what recourse did Duterte resort to?  Just ranting?  Why not sue Kasi that would involve millions?
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Post by: ALICE GO on Feb 12, 2020 at 01:07 PM
YES oh yes mapapasara na rin. Bastos yang mga animal na mayari ng estasyon na yan, they're the very family who has a hand in condemning the Filipinos to pay the highest electricity rate in Asia for 33 years. The same sob's who stayed the hand of their puppet Cory Aquino to mothball the nuclear plant and consigned our industries and economy to remain 3rd world, hopeless and can never become competitive. The station also owes the government a billion peso loan that it refuses to pay, effectively showing its unscrupulous character in exploiting its Aquino connection by taking a behest loan. It can also be seen as the most expensive bitch and stud farm in the country, its executives peopled with the usual predatorial homosexuals and butches who would handpicked their flavor of the month among the studs, who will then get rewarded with a telenovela or a drama vehicle.

Among the worst sins of this station is bringing back thieving washouts and discredited bums like Lito Lapid and Bong Revilla who when given roles and even their own TV shows - were effectively thrust again to the sordid consciousness of the unthinking masa (their main viewers), and were then catapulted (again) to political power. Its a disgrace that this station would actually picked such people to revive their careers to pave the way for them na makabalik sa Senado, that very place na anyone who lands a seat is as good as having won a lotto jackpot.

Sagad na sa kabulukan yang estasyon na yan, matagal na yan dapat isara....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 12, 2020 at 01:19 PM
YES oh yes mapapasara na rin. Bastos yang mga animal na mayari ng estasyon na yan, they're the very family who has a hand in condemning the Filipinos to pay the highest electricity rate in Asia for 33 years. The same sob's who stayed the hand of their puppet Cory Aquino to mothball the nuclear plant and consigned our industries and economy to remain 3rd world, hopeless and can never become competitive. The station also owes the government a billion peso loan that it refuses to pay, effectively showing its unscrupulous character in exploiting its Aquino connection by taking a behest loan. It can also be seen as the most expensive bitch and stud farm in the country, its executives peopled with the usual predatorial homosexuals and butches who would handpicked their flavor of the month among the studs, who will then get rewarded with a telenovela or a drama vehicle.

Among the worst sins of this station is bringing back thieving washouts and discredited bums like Lito Lapid and Bong Revilla who when given roles and even their own TV shows - were effectively thrust again to the sordid consciousness of the unthinking masa (their main viewers), and were then catapulted (again) to political power. Its a disgrace that this station would actually picked such people to revive their careers to pave the way for them na makabalik sa Senado, that very place na anyone who lands a seat is as good as having won a lotto jackpot.

Sagad na sa kabulukan yang estasyon na yan, matagal na yan dapat isara....
malamang kapuso kayo :-)

may tax evasion case ba nakasampa against abs?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 13, 2020 at 12:11 AM
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 13, 2020 at 12:22 AM
Parang red herring yun ABS CBN can continue even if the franchise expires. Placing you in a false sense of security.  I think what's clear is the studio still needs a provisional permit from the NTC after the franchise expires.

And lo and behold, NTC is under the DICT.....under "intelligence fund " czar Honasan.   ;D
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Post by: tony on Feb 13, 2020 at 07:10 AM
diong burat is simply against the old oligarchs, he simply wants to replace them with his own oligarchs, Villar, Denis Uy, Peter LIm, etc....

sure there were abuses by the old oligarchs, and he should fight those, but never with the agenda of stealing their wealth to distribute among his friends...

marcos did that in 1972, digong burat would like to have a repeat of the crony capitalism, he would like to continue where marcos left off...
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Post by: yapoy86 on Feb 13, 2020 at 08:48 AM
malamang kapuso kayo :-)

may tax evasion case ba nakasampa against abs?

Malamang kapuso nga.. bakit naman kailangan isara yung station.. sabi naman ni president eh ibenta nyo na sa friend nya... uyyyyy

Tsaka si bong revilla kapuso po yan
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on Feb 13, 2020 at 08:49 AM
diong burat is simply against the old oligarchs, he simply wants to replace them with his own oligarchs, Villar, Denis Uy, Peter LIm, etc....

sure there were abuses by the old oligarchs, and he should fight those, but never with the agenda of stealing their wealth to distribute among his friends...

marcos did that in 1972, digong burat would like to have a repeat of the crony capitalism, he would like to continue where marcos left off...

Add mo pa si dragon na may buntot Razon... biglang nasa manila water na..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 13, 2020 at 09:24 AM
^ Indeed .......... Enrique Razon, napaka low-profile, pero make no mistake, crony din yan - isa sa mga long time crony nang mga Arroyo.

IIRC nadawit dati yan sa ZTE-deal noong mga unang araw.

Pero tila nag-laho parang bula ang pangalan ......... gawa nang mga padrino sa pulitika, negosyo, media, wink-wink
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Post by: oweidah on Feb 13, 2020 at 12:17 PM
weder weder
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Post by: tigkal on Feb 13, 2020 at 01:28 PM
This issue drew the line to separate the friends and so called friends of Digong. I guess this was the purpose of the exercise so that by 2022, Digong knows his true friends and the so called friends.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 13, 2020 at 02:15 PM
This issue drew the line to separate the friends and so called friends of Digong. I guess this was the purpose of the exercise so that by 2022, Digong knows his true friends and the so called friends.

I don't think that's the purpose.  He's not that deep.   ;D
Purpose was simply to shut the studio down plain and simple.

Similar to the VFA.  Panelo is spinning that abrogating the VFA  was to be independent.  It's simply because Bato's visa was revoked.   
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Post by: dpogs on Feb 13, 2020 at 03:07 PM
This issue drew the line to separate the friends and so called friends of Digong. I guess this was the purpose of the exercise so that by 2022, Digong knows his true friends and the so called friends.

LOL laki talaga ng bilib mo kay du30...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on Feb 13, 2020 at 03:23 PM
LOL laki talaga ng bilib mo kay du30...
Hindi naman. pero if opinion mo yan, I understand. I only state what is the effect of this action. Lumabas na ang true colors di ba? If you agree, then yun point ko. If you disagree, explain kasi baka naman mali ang basa ko.

 Hindi yan dahil kay Duterte, dahil yan sa hindi pag renew ng franchise ng ABS CBN. Kasi dapat one has to take sides on this issue. Sa akin pwede renew pwede hindi, does not matter to me. Life goes on. Pag ban ang Netflix, then that would affect me.. Kasi I take my dose of documentary films sa Netflix.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 13, 2020 at 03:26 PM
Hindi naman. pero if opinion mo yan, I understand. I only state what is the effect of this action. Lumabas na ang true colors di ba? If you agree, then yun point ko. If you disagree, explain kasi baka naman mali ang basa ko.

 Hindi yan dahil kay Duterte, dahil yan sa hindi pag renew ng franchise ng ABS CBN. Kasi dapat one has to take sides on this issue. Sa akin pwede renew pwede hindi, does not matter to me. Life goes on. Pag ban ang Netflix, then that would affect me.. Kasi I take my dose of documentary films sa Netflix.

Kakasabi mo lang dapat one has to take side.

Tapos ikaw it doesn't matter to you.   ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: TonyC on Feb 13, 2020 at 03:51 PM
Digong is sure Calida's quo warranto case against ABS will favor them just like Sereno's case.  If this happens, talagang hawak na ni Digong buong gobyerno!  Good thing less than 3 yrs na lang sila at matatapos na bangungot na ito!
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 13, 2020 at 04:49 PM
Digong is sure Calida's quo warranto case against ABS will favor them just like Sereno's case.  If this happens, talagang hawak na ni Digong buong gobyerno!  Good thing less than 3 yrs na lang sila at matatapos na bangungot na ito!

Feeling ko DU30 wont last that long.

I watched him last night parang mahina na voice nya. His blackface got darker.  Cheekbones sunken. Tapos he said that he might not reach the finish line.......blah blah.

May sakit na talaga.
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Post by: v1n5anity on Feb 13, 2020 at 05:41 PM
Feeling ko DU30 wont last that long.

I watched him last night parang mahina na voice nya. His blackface got darker.  Cheekbones sunken. Tapos he said that he might not reach the finish line.......blah blah.

May sakit na talaga.

Magdilang anghel ka sana, bro. ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 13, 2020 at 06:24 PM
Feeling ko DU30 wont last that long.

I watched him last night parang mahina na voice nya. His blackface got darker.  Cheekbones sunken. Tapos he said that he might not reach the finish line.......blah blah.

May sakit na talaga.

Noticed that too. His face is darker ....more than usual. Talagang noticable compared to last week lang. Something happened this past weekend.  Also yun kilay niya parang nakalbo na.
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Post by: Own7 on Feb 13, 2020 at 06:41 PM
Magdilang anghel ka sana, bro. ;D

Mali mang matuwa tayo kung me sakit si digong, pero sa tingin ko law of  karma is fast catching
Up on him. Ang aminin ko tuwang tuwa ako.
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Post by: tony on Feb 13, 2020 at 06:48 PM
maitim na talaga mukha, at nawawala pa kilay, anyare?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Own7 on Feb 13, 2020 at 06:49 PM
Chemo?
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Feb 13, 2020 at 10:38 PM
Magdilang anghel ka sana, bro. ;D

Masamang damo yan, unfortunately...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on Feb 14, 2020 at 10:52 PM
parang puro na nga make up ang mukha para lang di mahalata. pero kita parin..

pero pabor ba dapat tayo na si leni ang mamahala?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 14, 2020 at 11:10 PM
parang puro na nga make up ang mukha para lang di mahalata. pero kita parin..

pero pabor ba dapat tayo na si leni ang mamahala?

Pabor or not naman if Duterte doesn't finish his term, by the Constitution si Leni talaga mamamahala.
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Post by: istan on Feb 15, 2020 at 06:52 AM
Nanalo sya as VP di ba? Eh di pabor.

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Feb 15, 2020 at 10:15 AM
when ninoy aquino was assassinated at the tarmac in 1983, people were jolted and they lost fear of the dictator....

the same could be happening today, this bumbling maniac is nearing the end of his days..
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 15, 2020 at 10:27 AM
Chemo?

(https://imgur.com/dnHf4WU.jpg)
I had a family friend Tito who had cancer, ganun na ganun yung mukha months before he passed away.  Bless his soul.

I was still in school so I did not know about his sickness, but I asked my Dad bakit ang itim ng mukha nya. 

My dad just kept quiet. :(
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Post by: dpogs on Feb 15, 2020 at 01:43 PM
Ganyan talaga ang mukha ng hardworking president. Sunog sa araw kaya nangingitim ang mukha. Just show how much he loves our country. - dutaertards
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Post by: Own7 on Feb 15, 2020 at 02:51 PM
(https://imgur.com/dnHf4WU.jpg)
I had a family friend Tito who had cancer, ganun na ganun yung mukha months before he passed away.  Bless his soul.

I was still in school so I did not know about his sickness, but I asked my Dad bakit ang itim ng mukha nya. 

My dad just kept quiet. :(

Diba pag chemo nakakalbo?

Nakalbo ba tito mo?
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 15, 2020 at 03:09 PM
Diba pag chemo nakakalbo?

Nakalbo ba tito mo?

No, he still had his full set of hair.  There are many types of chemo drugs, each with different side effects.

He looked normal except blackened face and medyo pumayat ng konti.
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Post by: jerix on Feb 17, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Masamang damo yan! so baka magtagal. ;D
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Post by: jerix on Feb 17, 2020 at 11:46 AM
Magdilang anghel ka sana, bro. ;D

Ka Tony o!
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Post by: Bravesfan on Feb 18, 2020 at 12:23 PM
Si Calida nag-file na ng gag-order laban sa ABS-CBN including its artists para daw hindi maimpluwensiyahan ang korte at publiko tungkol sa kaso.
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 18, 2020 at 12:46 PM
Si Calida nag-file na ng gag-order laban sa ABS-CBN including its artists para daw hindi maimpluwensiyahan ang korte at publiko tungkol sa kaso.

Takot si Calida pagtinawag ni Coco Martin ang lahat ng Probinsyano fans baka magulat ang Malacanang, haha.

:lol:
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 18, 2020 at 01:33 PM
Si Calida nag-file na ng gag-order laban sa ABS-CBN including its artists para daw hindi maimpluwensiyahan ang korte at publiko tungkol sa kaso.

This morning lang nagfile ng gag order si Calida, naaksyonan na kagad ng Supreme Court. They are asking ABS CBN to comment on Calida's petition in 5 days non-extendable.

Why?  Because Grace Poe's hearing on ABS CBN's franchise is set on February 27.  So if the gag order is given by the SC, wala nang saysay yun Senate hearing 9 days from now.  Because ABS CBN executives can't testify anymore.

Sneaky sneaky si Calida and the Supreme Court.  Very coordinated ang collusion.   ;D
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Post by: Bravesfan on Feb 18, 2020 at 02:14 PM
^ Ang galing nga ano. Basta sa kabulastugan magaling ‘tong gobyerno natin. Pagdating sa Senate no comment na lang lahat sa sides ng ABS.
Yun pagfile lang inabot ko, di ko alam may action pala agad ang SC. Parang pinaglalaruan lang tayo nitong si Calida at SC.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 18, 2020 at 04:54 PM
may gag order na rin hahaha

I want to see they close down ABS-CBN para magka alaman na talaga. Tingnan natin kung sino apektado, ako hindi malamang haha Para lang nung kay Sereno. But it left the academe and a lot of ripples in the justice system. Papano na yung mga kaso in the future dahil sa kagaguhan nila. lalaya lang mga nasasakdal.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 18, 2020 at 05:32 PM
This morning lang nagfile ng gag order si Calida, naaksyonan na kagad ng Supreme Court. They are asking ABS CBN to comment on Calida's petition in 5 days non-extendable.

Why?  Because Grace Poe's hearing on ABS CBN's franchise is set on February 27.  So if the gag order is given by the SC, wala nang saysay yun Senate hearing 9 days from now.  Because ABS CBN executives can't testify anymore.

Sneaky sneaky si Calida and the Supreme Court.  Very coordinated ang collusion.   ;D

Oh kita mo na!  So target talaga yun scheduled hearing. Sana gawin ni Poe this week na lang kahit sa Friday!  Unahan niya yun decision ng SC.   ;D

Palace: OSG ‘right’ about seeking gag order on quo warranto case vs ABS-CBN (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1230247/palace-osg-right-about-seeking-gag-order-on-quo-warranto-case-vs-abs-cbn)
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“Members of Congress, if they are doing their duty, I don’t think they can be stopped from asking questions relative to the matter. Perhaps, the resource persons can be covered but not members of Congress,” said Panelo, who is also President Rodrigo Duterte’s chief legal counsel.

“‘Pag gag order, everybody is covered except for those that I mentioned earlier, members of Congress, ‘pag meron silang Senate investigation,” Panelo explained.

When asked to clarify whether celebrities will not be allowed to air their opinion on the matter, Panelo said: “They can always speak themselves subject to the contempt power of the Supreme Court.”

Pati artista kasama sa gag order.  Nanakot pa ng contempt.  :o
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 18, 2020 at 07:04 PM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/18/20/bato-on-abs-cbn-shutdown-alleged-abuses-what-is-11000-losing-jobs

Teka, papano ako pinagsasamantalahan ng ABS-CBN?

Sabaw ah Hahahaha

Tingin ko this is just a battle of egos. Nothing more.
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 18, 2020 at 08:04 PM




Why?  Because Grace Poe's hearing on ABS CBN's franchise is set on February 27.  So if the gag order is given by the SC, wala nang saysay yun Senate hearing 9 days from now.  Because ABS CBN executives can't testify anymore.


The gag order can't prevent ABS executives from testifying as the Senate and SC are co-equal branches of gov't. The gag order, afaik, only covers media interviews. It might actually not cover online posts and statements either (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

Also, note that the Poe estate regularly receives royalties for Ang Probinsyano. I'm certain conflict of interest concerns will come up as the Senate hearing convenes.


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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 18, 2020 at 08:21 PM

The gag order can't prevent ABS executives from testifying as the Senate and SC are co-equal branches of gov't. The gag order, afaik, only covers media interviews. It might actually not cover online posts and statements either (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong).

Also, note that the Poe estate regularly receives royalties for Ang Probinsyano. I'm certain conflict of interest concerns will come up as the Senate hearing convenes.


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I'm not familiar with the details of the sub judice rule.  But GMA showed a copy of Calida's petition and mentions specifically ABS CBN Executives, those connected with the company and those who represent the company.

What I mean is while the ABS CBN executives may attend the hearing, if approved by the SC... these same executives might not be able to answer the senators' questions due to the sub judice rule if it involves the case that has already been filed with the Supreme Court.

From Ping Lacson...

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In a radio interview, Lacson said the rule only covered litigants, lawyers, officers of the court and the general public.

"[H]indi kami pwede i-censure ng SC kasi co-equal branch... Hindi rin kami pwede pagsabihan o i-contempt dahil nagsagawa kami ng investigation sabihin natin in aid of legislation," Lacson said.

However, the senator did concede that resource persons could be held in contempt.

Because of this, he has asked Senate President Vicente Sotto III to review matters before holding a hearing.

"Ang resource persons ang saklaw ng sub judice rule kaya humihiling ako kay SP pagusapan muna natin ito bago tayo magpadalos-dalos agad-agad tatawag tayo ng hearing," he said.

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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 19, 2020 at 05:39 PM
Oh kita mo na!  So target talaga yun scheduled hearing. Sana gawin ni Poe this week na lang kahit sa Friday!  Unahan niya yun decision ng SC.   ;D

Palace: OSG ‘right’ about seeking gag order on quo warranto case vs ABS-CBN (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1230247/palace-osg-right-about-seeking-gag-order-on-quo-warranto-case-vs-abs-cbn)
Pati artista kasama sa gag order.  Nanakot pa ng contempt.  :o

So apparently Grace Poe has moved the Senate hearing to February 24.... Ahead of the SC en banc decision on Calida's petition for a gag order.     ;D
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 20, 2020 at 10:01 AM
I can't remember, which one had the Poes have a falling out with the network? GMA ba or ABS?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 20, 2020 at 07:48 PM
Hahaha!  Napipikon si Cayetano at maghearing ang Senate sa ABS CBN franchise. Inuunahan daw sila.  Dapat ang hearing mag umpisa daw sa kanila.  Eh ayaw naman niya madaliin.  Ayaw niya gumalaw.  Pero galit siya at inuunahan siya.   ;D

Senators ‘feel free to violate Constitution’ in hearing ABS-CBN franchise – Cayetano (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1231358/senators-feel-free-to-violate-constitution-in-hearing-abs-cbn-franchise)
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 21, 2020 at 07:12 PM
Nag rally na hehe
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Post by: deweyfinn on Feb 23, 2020 at 02:33 PM

Palace: OSG ‘right’ about seeking gag order on quo warranto case vs ABS-CBN (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1230247/palace-osg-right-about-seeking-gag-order-on-quo-warranto-case-vs-abs-cbn)
Pati artista kasama sa gag order.  Nanakot pa ng contempt.  :o

Di ba karamihan mga artista natin (lalo na mga Kapamilya) di Filipino citizens?  Why should THEY have to follow OUR laws???
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Post by: drhiredgun on Feb 23, 2020 at 02:41 PM
Maybe because they are in the Philippines. Just like us when we go to other countries.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 24, 2020 at 10:16 AM
Madali yan, may dual citizenship naman. Allowed ng batas yan

What’s funny, itong mga solons na ‘to mga dual citizenships din ang status pero putak ng putak. Maniwala ka man sa hindi kahit yang si Cayetano eh may US passport dahil puti ang nanay. Nirenounce lang nya nung tumakbong pulitiko.

Kahit naman yang sina Duterte eh, german ang asawa nya o nanay nina polong baste at inday.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 24, 2020 at 10:32 AM
Kaka start pa lang ng Senate hearing, Tolentino right away questions the hearing in general in light of Calida's filing of the quo warranto case.
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Post by: newwaveboy on Feb 24, 2020 at 12:39 PM
Kahit mga aso, kailangan din mag-trabaho.
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Post by: noob on Feb 24, 2020 at 01:05 PM
Joel Lamangan was exemplary defending the freedom of expression at the senate hearing!
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 24, 2020 at 01:06 PM
Joel Lamangan was exemplary defending the freedom of expression at the senate hearing!

Yes very passionate!
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Post by: noob on Feb 24, 2020 at 01:50 PM
Secretary Guevarra lectures Senator Tolentino on the difference of quo warrato filed by Solgen which is under the Justice Dept vs the franchise being jeard by the Senate.
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Post by: noob on Feb 24, 2020 at 02:09 PM
Carlo Katigbak: the technology has overtaken the regulatory bodies.

Very very true.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 24, 2020 at 03:32 PM
As far as I know, it was under his helm (Carlo Katigbak) when they pushed the network’s digital age i.e. TV Plus, smartphone access and pay per view gimmicks.

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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 24, 2020 at 05:40 PM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/24/20/gma-aired-2016-anti-duterte-ad-too-exec

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Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 26, 2020 at 06:06 PM
As far as I know, it was under his helm (Carlo Katigbak) when they pushed the network’s digital age i.e. TV Plus, smartphone access and pay per view gimmicks.

Yup.  He started in SkyCable, in case anyone is wondering.  He was able to expand and build a de facto monopoly, even against tough competition from provincial providers and the Destiny+Home Cable alliance.
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Post by: im2tenz on Feb 27, 2020 at 10:40 AM
http://pinoytrendingnews.net/journalist-author-carmen-pedrosa-campaigns-for-non-renewal-of-abs-cbns-franchise-says-renewal-means-dutertes-program-of-reform-will-be-in-vain/?fbclid=IwAR3-9Kx8pdcz06Kdm6gi3SwJuEbnPIFLklvFi_e-SFeHUKgDV_pfW9YHIrU

The full name of the President and CEO of ABS-CBN is Carlo Joaquin Tadeo LOPEZ Katigbak.

He is a cousin of Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez III.
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Post by: yapoy86 on Feb 27, 2020 at 10:47 AM
Joel Lamangan was exemplary defending the freedom of expression at the senate hearing!

Isa sa mga tirada ni panelo na kung hindi mabigyan ng franchise ang abs cbn ay nawala ba ang freedom of expression?
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Post by: JeromeA on Feb 27, 2020 at 11:55 AM
Isa sa mga tirada ni panelo na kung hindi mabigyan ng franchise ang abs cbn ay nawala ba ang freedom of expression?

marami namang diyaryo, my GMA pa, CNN mas accurate magbalita..


sabi ng kapitbahay ko as one of the staff ng ABS CBN ang a personal assistant ni coco sobrang daming hindi regular employee ng ABS. under lang sila ng agency with no benefits. ika nga niya swerte ka lang sa ABS pag artista ka talaga. pag hindi ka artista behind camera para ka lang basura. but dahil dito niya binubuhay pamilya nya wala syang choice kundi sumama ipaglaban ang contract renewal ng ABS
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 27, 2020 at 12:02 PM
marami namang diyaryo, my GMA pa, CNN mas accurate magbalita..


sabi ng kapitbahay ko as one of the staff ng ABS CBN ang a personal assistant ni coco sobrang daming hindi regular employee ng ABS. under lang sila ng agency with no benefits. ika nga niya swerte ka lang sa ABS pag artista ka talaga. pag hindi ka artista behind camera para ka lang basura. but dahil dito niya binubuhay pamilya nya wala syang choice kundi sumama ipaglaban ang contract renewal ng ABS

Naging pro Endo na kasi si Duterte. He vetoed the Endo bill.
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Post by: dpogs on Feb 27, 2020 at 12:08 PM
marami namang diyaryo, my GMA pa, CNN mas accurate magbalita..


sabi ng kapitbahay ko as one of the staff ng ABS CBN ang a personal assistant ni coco sobrang daming hindi regular employee ng ABS. under lang sila ng agency with no benefits. ika nga niya swerte ka lang sa ABS pag artista ka talaga. pag hindi ka artista behind camera para ka lang basura. but dahil dito niya binubuhay pamilya nya wala syang choice kundi sumama ipaglaban ang contract renewal ng ABS

under ng agency pero hindi under ng abscbn? kung ang agency ay pagmamayari din ng abscbn aba eh maling mali iyon. pero kung ang agency ay nahire lang ng abscbn walang sala ang abs cbn :)
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Post by: Klaus Weasley on Feb 27, 2020 at 07:09 PM
sabi ng kapitbahay ko as one of the staff ng ABS CBN ang a personal assistant ni coco sobrang daming hindi regular employee ng ABS. under lang sila ng agency with no benefits. ika nga niya swerte ka lang sa ABS pag artista ka talaga. pag hindi ka artista behind camera para ka lang basura. but dahil dito niya binubuhay pamilya nya wala syang choice kundi sumama ipaglaban ang contract renewal ng ABS

As someone who worked in ABS-CBN and who still know people who still work there, I can more or less confirm this. But I did hear that things are getting better, well, at least for the writers who I know used to be subjected to grueling hours with little to no pay (I heard situations where they would do writing sessions all night with no overtime pay, just food). Thanks to Ricky Lee who has been quietly leading the effort for better treatment.

But still, I object to the government closing them down. 
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 28, 2020 at 10:00 AM
it was under Gabby Lopez's time most abuses were apparent.
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Feb 28, 2020 at 11:06 AM
it was under Gabby Lopez's time most abuses were apparent.

What kind of abuses?  O0
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Post by: frequenzy on Feb 28, 2020 at 07:21 PM
marami namang diyaryo, my GMA pa, CNN mas accurate magbalita..


sabi ng kapitbahay ko as one of the staff ng ABS CBN ang a personal assistant ni coco sobrang daming hindi regular employee ng ABS. under lang sila ng agency with no benefits. ika nga niya swerte ka lang sa ABS pag artista ka talaga. pag hindi ka artista behind camera para ka lang basura. but dahil dito niya binubuhay pamilya nya wala syang choice kundi sumama ipaglaban ang contract renewal ng ABS
di ba dapat sa agency sila magalit? lalo na kung walang benefits.

nanggaling ako sa IT agency before ma absorb ng company. meron naman benefits minimal nga lang. then nalaman ko how much bayad ni company sa agency, walastik more than triple pala ng sahod.
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Post by: sdsmds on Feb 28, 2020 at 07:34 PM
Ang 7 & 5 kaya walang abuses?
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Feb 28, 2020 at 07:45 PM
Yang mga agency kasi ginagamit ng mga corporations to save on labor costs while circumventing laws against labor only contracting.  Many big and small companies do this and very common everywhere   Kung talagang concerned sila sa welfare ng manggagawa eh di dun mag-concentrate and strengthen/enforce the laws. 

Naniwala naman kayo na yung kapakanan talaga ng manggagawa ang ang iniisip ng mga kampon ni Digong.  Sus, palusot na lang nila yan!
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 28, 2020 at 09:31 PM
What kind of abuses?  O0

tsismis lang narinig ko, daming tsinix si ser na mga talent ng ABS CBN hehe

kaya iniwan yan ni Panjee Gonzalez.
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 28, 2020 at 10:43 PM
tsismis lang narinig ko, daming tsinix si ser na mga talent ng ABS CBN hehe

kaya iniwan yan ni Panjee Gonzalez.

Matagal na yan. Basta big time producer or tv network owner babae pa ang lalapit sa iyo.


"Make me a Star, and Ill give you everything you want"

Wink wink
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Post by: stevesonk on Feb 29, 2020 at 02:53 AM
Hahaha!  Napipikon si Cayetano at maghearing ang Senate sa ABS CBN franchise. Inuunahan daw sila.  Dapat ang hearing mag umpisa daw sa kanila.  Eh ayaw naman niya madaliin.  Ayaw niya gumalaw.  Pero galit siya at inuunahan siya.   ;D

Senators ‘feel free to violate Constitution’ in hearing ABS-CBN franchise – Cayetano (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1231358/senators-feel-free-to-violate-constitution-in-hearing-abs-cbn-franchise)


gaya-gaya kay pdutz,nasaktan damdamin,dahilan ni kupitano may mas importante gawain ang house of representa-thieves keysa talakayin ang issue about franchise of ABS, & that was relaunching of the Kobe Bryant exhibit @ the House of Representa-THIEVES..!! tokmol tlaga si ellen 'beding' kupitano..  >:(
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 05, 2020 at 05:52 PM
I guess Cayetano will now go to NTC para buksan yun transmitter....

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Cayetano said this in a chance interview on Monday, February 24, as he insisted that a provisional authority from the NTC would allow the country’s biggest media network to continue operating even if its current franchises lapses.

“Sa aming pananaw (In our view), a notice from our committee that we are starting the proceedings and they (ABS-CBN) should be allowed to broadcast why we are hearing it is more than sufficient,” Cayetano told reporters at the Batasang Pambansa..

"The reality is, kung gustong isara, eh 'di isang hearing, deny, sarado 'yan. Or 'wag i-hear, sabihin sa NTC isarado," the Speaker said. (The reality is, if we wanted to shut it down, we would hold one hearing, deny it, and then it would have to close. Or we wouldn't even hold a hearing and just tell NTC to shut them down.)

"Why would we talk to you with forked tongues? What do we have to gain to lie to you? So no’ng sinabi naming 'di magsasara, 'yan ang paninindigan namin. Kung kailangan physically ako ang mag-on ng transmitter or pumunta doon, gagawin ko 'yan. Gagawin ni [House committee on legislative franchises] chairman Chikoy [Alvarez] 'yon," he added.
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Post by: oweidah on May 05, 2020 at 05:59 PM
may side show na covid19 hahaha

mag TRO na !
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Post by: oweidah on May 05, 2020 at 06:16 PM
abscbn will comply tonite . istapit !
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Post by: bumblebee on May 05, 2020 at 06:33 PM
Nauutal na si Cabarios hehe
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 05, 2020 at 06:34 PM
Nauutal na si Cabarios hehe

Oo nga eh.. ayaw pa direchuhin.. parangndi sya kasama nung nag meeting sila..
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Post by: oweidah on May 05, 2020 at 06:38 PM
laro lang lahat yan
dribble dribble kaya ayan turuan pasahan ng sisi, hugas kamay etc


another circus, sideshow sa covid19
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Post by: jjjeronimo on May 05, 2020 at 06:45 PM
Hindi pa ba ni Bong Go "kakausapin ang presidente"? ::)
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Post by: Koolkat on May 05, 2020 at 07:09 PM
Ang tanong, gagana pa ba ang Abs-Cbn TV Plus once they close down? Yun pa naman pinapanuoran ng nanay ko.
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Post by: oweidah on May 05, 2020 at 07:24 PM
politika lang yan

ako rin gamit tv+ haaaay
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Post by: tony on May 05, 2020 at 07:28 PM
merong eepal dyan, either si Sarah D or si Bong Go....galawang 2022 yan...
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Post by: stevesonk on May 05, 2020 at 07:30 PM
merong eepal dyan, either si Sarah D or si Bong Go....galawang 2022 yan...
tsaka si bato-bato pik..
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 05, 2020 at 07:32 PM
Ang tanong, gagana pa ba ang Abs-Cbn TV Plus once they close down? Yun pa naman pinapanuoran ng nanay ko.

I think yes.. wala lang abs channels..
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Post by: oweidah on May 05, 2020 at 07:48 PM
bayang magiliw na


_

may tv+ dzmm pa
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Post by: dyerds on May 05, 2020 at 07:54 PM
Lupang Hinirang ^

ABS CBN officially signed off.
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Post by: Pipo_1925 on May 05, 2020 at 08:18 PM
tsaka si bato-bato pik..

Hinhintay ko nga yung epal moves na naman ni First Lady Go.
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Post by: Pipo_1925 on May 05, 2020 at 08:20 PM
may abs-cbn employee ba na member dito sa forum?
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Post by: Philjonc on May 05, 2020 at 08:38 PM
Meron pa GMA, CNN, other non abs shows sa tv+
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Post by: tony on May 05, 2020 at 08:44 PM
buti na lang hindi pinalusot yung hiling n burat na "take over ng telecoms provision" sa emergency power, pumalag si tito sen pepsi paloma....at nagkagulo sa socmed over this...

baka nga sabihin ni burat, ibenta nyo na yan kay denis uy....
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Post by: sdsmds on May 05, 2020 at 09:14 PM
Sana isama na teleserye ng 7 sa isara hehehe....walang ka kwenta kwenta. Isa ito sa nagpapahirap sa akin now na may quarantine. Sakit sa mata At tenga.
Taste ko lang.
ay Sama na rin mga game shows ng 7.
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 05, 2020 at 11:03 PM
The thread has now an answer.. its a BIG YES!
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 05, 2020 at 11:05 PM
Sana isama na teleserye ng 7 sa isara hehehe....walang ka kwenta kwenta. Isa ito sa nagpapahirap sa akin now na may quarantine. Sakit sa mata At tenga.
Taste ko lang.
ay Sama na rin mga game shows ng 7.

Well sabihin na natin na lamang ang gma sa news and current affairs.. pero si abs naman bumabawi sa entertainment at technology..
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Post by: bumblebee on May 05, 2020 at 11:21 PM
Sana isama na teleserye ng 7 sa isara hehehe....walang ka kwenta kwenta. Isa ito sa nagpapahirap sa akin now na may quarantine. Sakit sa mata At tenga.
Taste ko lang.
ay Sama na rin mga game shows ng 7.

Hindi naman mandatory na panoorin sila.
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Post by: stevesonk on May 05, 2020 at 11:26 PM
tyak nangagaLaiti sa galit ang kababayan kong si carlo katigbak.. teka, ma research nga.. kamag-anak ko kya ito from kalaw-katigbak clan of lipa..? hmm..
(hindi siguro, poge ehh..)  ::)
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Post by: Philjonc on May 06, 2020 at 07:52 AM
Sana isama na teleserye ng 7 sa isara hehehe....walang ka kwenta kwenta. Isa ito sa nagpapahirap sa akin now na may quarantine. Sakit sa mata At tenga.
Taste ko lang.
ay Sama na rin mga game shows ng 7.
Very true
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Post by: tony on May 06, 2020 at 08:02 AM
Rouque says digong burat is neutral.....as if we were born yesterday....
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Post by: Philjonc on May 07, 2020 at 11:16 AM
I guess Cayetano will now go to NTC para buksan yun transmitter....

Do you have the article? Do you mind posting it ,thanks. :)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 07, 2020 at 11:31 AM
Do you have the article? Do you mind posting it ,thanks. :)

Here it is....

Cayetano: House notice to NTC 'sufficient’ to allow ABS-CBN to keep operating (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rappler.com/nation/252599-cayetano-house-notice-ntc-sufficient-allow-abscbn-operations)

On another note, NTC cease and desist order came out Tuesday. It's Thursday today.  Is Cayetano still hiding?    ;D
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Post by: Philjonc on May 07, 2020 at 03:11 PM
^ Hindi di nya mapigilan bibig nya, walang pinagiba Nung debate na pag Hindi daw naubos Mga adik in 6months magreresign sila.
Thanks.
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Post by: tony on May 08, 2020 at 06:45 AM
nasa youtube na ang ANC at dzmm teleradyo...
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Post by: oweidah on May 08, 2020 at 07:35 AM
TELERADYO @ TV+ is ON

noli & ted ....wazzap

+c cras chacha   O0 O0 O0
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 08, 2020 at 07:51 AM
Sayang ang abs cbn.. kahit pa sabihin na may pagka bias sila.. pero hindi sapat na dahilan yun.. sayang kasi Filipino brand na din yan at dapat sinusuportahan.. madami na nga umalis na companies dito sa atin tapos sariling brand di na ingatan at pinasara ng government.. di bale sana kung drug facility yan eh..

Marami naman contribution sa society ang abs.. like pushing for digital broadcast.. si gma nga up to now walang digi box.. but abs pushed for it.. kahit sa ofw sila nauna sa pag hatid ng shows sa mga pinoys abroad thru TFC..

Yung si tamano na nagrereklamo sa mga products ni abs.. negosyo yan eh kailangan mo talaga mag compete.. magkakaiba naman sila ng platforms eh di mag pa gandahan sila ng offer..

Pinoy crab mentality ba ito? Or gusto mag pasok ng chinese tv network?
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Post by: tony on May 08, 2020 at 07:59 AM
two years na lang si digong burat, pwedeng makaperhuwisyo pero gasino na lang yon, kaunting tiis tiis pa...

minura ang Diyos, ngayon pinadalhan sya ng sunod sunod na lindol sa Davao region, pinaputok ang bulkang Taal at ngayon Covid 19.....ano ngayon ang ipagyayabang pa nya? burat nyang abot  pusod.....

nakita na natin ang galaw nya, si tigkal na lang ang me smpalataya....ngayon pa ba tayo matatakot, kung si Joma nga pinapatarget na sya sa mga rebelde nya...
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Post by: sirhc on May 08, 2020 at 08:01 AM

Pinoy crab mentality ba ito? Or gusto mag pasok ng chinese tv network?

Dennis Uy joined the group. :D
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Post by: oweidah on May 08, 2020 at 08:01 AM
tignan ko kung may political backlash later
hahaha haaay buhay, 2020 covid19 ECQ LOCKDOWN

8M views ba online tv patrol kagabi ?
tsk, bad timing
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Post by: tigkal on May 08, 2020 at 08:12 AM
nasa youtube na ang ANC at dzmm teleradyo...

So nasaan ang death of press freedom? Now you know the kind of spin they will do to get sympathy and play the victim card.
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Post by: oweidah on May 08, 2020 at 08:15 AM
ay, mas ok DIGITAL ?! ...kesa ANALOG hehehe

sabi na, weder weder lang yan
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Post by: tigkal on May 08, 2020 at 08:20 AM
two years na lang si digong burat, pwedeng makaperhuwisyo pero gasino na lang yon, kaunting tiis tiis pa...

minura ang Diyos, ngayon pinadalhan sya ng sunod sunod na lindol sa Davao region, pinaputok ang bulkang Taal at ngayon Covid 19.....ano ngayon ang ipagyayabang pa nya? burat nyang abot  pusod.....

nakita na natin ang galaw nya, si tigkal na lang ang me smpalataya....ngayon pa ba tayo matatakot, kung si Joma nga pinapatarget na sya sa mga rebelde nya...

All that has happened is based on natural law. Kaya noon marami miracles as written in the bible. Now wala na kasi ma explain na by logic and science. Eto tanong ko usually sa mga religious believers if mag change beliefs nila. Ang scenario kasi is paano if may aliens mag landing sa earth, and lahat ng sinasabi sa bible ay explain nila by science and logic, mag change ba beliefs nila? Impossible daw yung scenario. Sabi ko better na may decision ka na if ever na maging true yung scenario. Ayaw talaga mag decision. Better may decision ka na para pag nagkatotoo, alam mo na decision mo, than wait for it to happen and decide. Kaya yung connect sa nangyari dahil sa leader ng Pinas is just not logical or backed by science. Wishful thinking ang tawag nyan.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 08, 2020 at 08:25 AM
Rouque says digong burat is neutral.....as if we were born yesterday....
Lagay natin sa tamang perspective ano ibig sabihin ng neutral. Compare mo pagkasara ng ABS Marcos time and Digong's time, and that is Roque's neutral.
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Post by: NongP on May 08, 2020 at 08:28 AM
maganda pa nga yun kay Apo lahat ng media sinara eto ABS-CBN lang so asan yun neutral dito.
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Post by: tigkal on May 08, 2020 at 08:29 AM
Here it is....

Cayetano: House notice to NTC 'sufficient’ to allow ABS-CBN to keep operating (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rappler.com/nation/252599-cayetano-house-notice-ntc-sufficient-allow-abscbn-operations)

On another note, NTC cease and desist order came out Tuesday. It's Thursday today.  Is Cayetano still hiding?    ;D
Bakit mag decide si Cayetano na sufficient na sa NTC? Nag bigay ang NTC ng requirement, hindi naman nila sinunod. Dyan magaling ang Pilipino. Pinupuna ang Gawain ng iba, pero yung Gawain nila, hindi magawa.. Hayz. Parang iwas pusoy lagi. Sinusulunan ano gawin, para sa time of reckoning, no responsibility, kasi hindi naman sila gumawa, ibang dept. naman or tao.
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Post by: tigkal on May 08, 2020 at 08:36 AM
maganda pa nga yun kay Apo lahat ng media sinara eto ABS-CBN lang so asan yun neutral dito.
Ano basis ni Apo? Kasi gusto lang nya? May franchise naman sila nung sinara lahat. So sa iyo mas neutral pag all for one kahit na walang basis? No franchise so sarado. That simple. Lahat ng problema may solution. Pwede naman provisional. Pero patigasan kasi eh. Cono, so Mabuti pa malugi kaysa magpakumbaba. You cannot fight government.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 08, 2020 at 08:48 AM
Ano basis ni Apo? Kasi gusto lang nya? May franchise naman sila nung sinara lahat. So sa iyo mas neutral pag all for one kahit na walang basis? No franchise so sarado. That simple. Lahat ng problema may solution. Pwede naman provisional. Pero patigasan kasi eh. Cono, so Mabuti pa malugi kaysa magpakumbaba. You cannot fight government.

So all those pronouncements about shutting ABS-CBN down, I'll see to it you're out and just sell your company..... Are expressions of neutrality?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 08, 2020 at 08:53 AM
Bakit mag decide si Cayetano na sufficient na sa NTC? Nag bigay ang NTC ng requirement, hindi naman nila sinunod. Dyan magaling ang Pilipino. Pinupuna ang Gawain ng iba, pero yung Gawain nila, hindi magawa.. Hayz. Parang iwas pusoy lagi. Sinusulunan ano gawin, para sa time of reckoning, no responsibility, kasi hindi naman sila gumawa, ibang dept. naman or tao.

Ano yun requirement binigay ng NTC ang hindi sinunod ni Cayetano?  Because during the committee hearing and under oath, Cordova of NTC committed to issue a provisional authority.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 08, 2020 at 09:02 AM
On another note, NTC cease and desist order came out Tuesday. It's Thursday today.  Is Cayetano still hiding?    ;D

Lumabas na rin sa pinagtataguan.   ;D

Cayetano: Congress to fix the mess others made on ABS-CBN franchise (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1271767/fwd-cayetano-congress-to-fix-the-mess-others-made-on-abs-cbn-franchise)

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“We would have wanted to do this in an orderly manner. But what we want and what we have to deal with are two different things. So this Congress has no choice but to once again rise to the occasion and fix the mess others make,” Cayetano said in a Facebook post.

Hindi pa pala interview but a Facebook post.  So nagtatago pa rin!  LOL
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Post by: bumblebee on May 08, 2020 at 09:04 AM
Anywho, nagparamdam na sa wakas.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1271775/there-will-be-a-reckoning-cayetano-tells-calida-ntc-over-abs-cbn-shutdown
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Post by: yapoy86 on May 08, 2020 at 09:14 AM
Ano basis ni Apo? Kasi gusto lang nya? May franchise naman sila nung sinara lahat. So sa iyo mas neutral pag all for one kahit na walang basis? No franchise so sarado. That simple. Lahat ng problema may solution. Pwede naman provisional. Pero patigasan kasi eh. Cono, so Mabuti pa malugi kaysa magpakumbaba. You cannot fight government.

I agree on you...on this point lang ha.. sana lang the congress act on it not on digong viewpoint on abs.. but on necessity and importance of the company in the country.. nag pa kumbaba na nga si karlo eh.. ano pa ba gusto nila? Tsaka digong is not the government..

Yang abs is already part of the filipino.. kahit pa sabihin nyo na maka kapuso kayo.. still pag sinabing abs-cbn.. pinoy yan.. pag sinabing CNN.. amerika yan.. may branding na kasi.. tsaka yung wide network reach nyan compared sa iba..

Sana all our government institutions act indepedently on this matter.. mabalik tayo sa sisishan...kasalanan talaga ito ng congress eh.. simple lang kung may issue sila sa renewal sana nag hearing na sila agad... kesyo hindi daw ito urgent dahil private company daw..? dami palusot
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Post by: NongP on May 08, 2020 at 12:26 PM
Ano basis ni Apo? Kasi gusto lang nya? May franchise naman sila nung sinara lahat. So sa iyo mas neutral pag all for one kahit na walang basis? No franchise so sarado. That simple. Lahat ng problema may solution. Pwede naman provisional. Pero patigasan kasi eh. Cono, so Mabuti pa malugi kaysa magpakumbaba. You cannot fight government.
tama ka gusto nya kasi under ML pero ito wala naman tayo ML. on the expiration of Franchise dapat binigyan muna ng NTC ang ABS-CBN magpaliwanag kung bakit dapat hindi sila dapat makapag broadcast nde yun ceased and desist agad agad.
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Post by: ALICE GO on May 08, 2020 at 12:33 PM
MAS marami pang problema ang bayan, mas mabigat mas mapanganib (the epidemic and the search for a vaccine thats geared for Filipinos afflicted with the CCP virus, tourism & hospitality industry layoffs and losses, airline grounding, OFW job losses, a crash in car sales, manufacturing shortfalls, etc.) - bakit pinagkakaguluhan pa ang pagsasara sa ABS-BIAS when its a foregone conclusion. Ipinasara na yan ng NTC due to brazen violations, bakit nangangarap pa itong iba na maari yang buksang muli, ikamamatay ba natin na wala na yang kompanyang yan? Will you bleed if it passed on to history? Maraming nagbubunyi na sarado na yan, di lang sila makapagingay kasi maliliit sila na tao, while the rah-rah boys of the network can be found in Congress, in the Senate, in the popular showbiz circles, and among the effete Catholic priestcraft.

Its closure is a small triumph for the patriotic Filipinos who has long sighed for this oligarchic weapon to be eviscerated, at dumating na ang panahon, naniningil na ang tadhana. Matagal na itong nagkakalat ng mga balikong ideya sa mga Filipino, as a result, after 34 years of broadcasting dominance - it fostered and perpetuated even more mediocrity, ignorance, at kabobohan among us. The main business of this network ay apat: Magpatili, magpatawa, mag-drama, and to maintain the oligarchic status quo. Magpatili sa madla sa pamamagitan ng mga artista nito, to bedazzle the hoi polloi with the perfumed, bleached-fair-skinned showbiz talents - thats what it does best, and that is in fact its always potent weapon to endear itself sa mga ignoranteng kababayan na madaling mapahanga at kaydaling mapaniwala.

The thing to watch out for, now, is to uphold what the NTC has decided because it followed the law. And not to allow itong mga nababayarang Congressmen to reversed the decision, or even the President to veto that decision. Mabubuhay tayo ng wala yang entertainment vehicle na yan, in fact it doesn't truly matter because what do you lose if you gain nothing at all thats profound and life-nourishing from such a junk-filled, homo-erotic, yellow-to-the-bone network?
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Post by: stevesonk on May 08, 2020 at 03:13 PM
the supreme court itself said that a provisionary authority can be authorized if their renewal of franchise is pending, the sec. of justice  (meynardo guevarra) himself said with the concurrence of the two houses with the matter pending, the ntc can issue the provisional authority. On march 11, ntc deputy commissioner ed cabarrios stated that the ntc will issue a provisional permit, unless there is restraint from the court.. So they LIED.. the ntc move was clearly a grave abuse of discretion, irregular, & improper by this time of pandemic.. instead of being neutral and doing their job "right", why only pinpoint a certain tv network while others still can operate whose franchise pending & did not receive a cease & decease order from them?  at this time of crisis, we know how abs-cbn is a big help for sevicing filipinos not just by entertainment but providing information & necessities to all.. for what happen, they only show how dirty this government work & for what they say can't be trusted, one thing they are good at.. work for personal interest even if filipino suffers..  :P
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Post by: bogart.2006 on May 08, 2020 at 04:08 PM
tanga lang ang naniniwala na walang personal agenda dito sa non-renewal at closure ng ABSCBN
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Post by: frequenzy on May 08, 2020 at 04:24 PM
tanga lang ang naniniwala na walang personal agenda dito sa non-renewal at closure ng ABSCBN
+1

tanga lang ang naniniwala na rule of law ang dahilan kung bakit pinasara ang abs-cbn.

it a simple bullying ng current admin. unfortunately for abs, hawak din ng current admin ang supreme court. kaya sa ngayon losing side talaga sila.

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Post by: shoktongxxx on May 08, 2020 at 07:31 PM
nanood ako now sa ANC, ayun balita ng ABS-CBN puro patungkol sa pag shutdown sa kanila...  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: tony on May 09, 2020 at 07:52 AM
+1

tanga lang ang naniniwala na rule of law ang dahilan kung bakit pinasara ang abs-cbn.

it a simple bullying ng current admin. unfortunately for abs, hawak din ng current admin ang supreme court. kaya sa ngayon losing side talaga sila.



gusto ni burat na mapunta ang network kay Dennis Uy...
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 08:16 AM
nanood ako now sa ANC, ayun balita ng ABS-CBN puro patungkol sa pag shutdown sa kanila...  ;D ;D ;D
Siempre what do you expect from a biased network. Yan isang indicator.
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Post by: dpogs on May 09, 2020 at 08:18 AM
Siempre what do you expect from a biased network. Yan isang indicator.

Ayun... emotion din pala pinapairal... LOL

Well.... nevermind...
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 08:18 AM
tanga lang ang naniniwala na walang personal agenda dito sa non-renewal at closure ng ABSCBN
Mas tanga ang naniniwala na walang personal agenda abs sa closure. Mas marami interest ma fulfill ng abs.
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 08:20 AM
Ayun... emotion din pala pinapairal... LOL

Well.... nevermind...
Biased means one side lng pinapakita. Saan emotions doon? Bias is emotion?
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Post by: dpogs on May 09, 2020 at 08:22 AM
Biased means one side lng pinapakita. Saan emotions doon? Bias is emotion?

LOL... ikaw un... emotion din pala pinapairal mo... kung aalisin mo yang emotion mo and buksan mga mata mo makikita mo katotohanan. :)
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 08:22 AM
gusto ni burat na mapunta ang network kay Dennis Uy...
Let us wait and see. Lugi abs in the billions as per financial statement.
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 08:22 AM
LOL... ikaw un... emotion din pala pinapairal mo... kung aalisin mo yang emotion mo and buksan mga mata mo makikita mo katotohanan. :)
Lagi bukas and see both sides and decide.
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Post by: JeromeA on May 09, 2020 at 08:34 AM
nanood ako now sa ANC, ayun balita ng ABS-CBN puro patungkol sa pag shutdown sa kanila...  ;D ;D ;D

oo. nakalimutan na ang covid.. kagabi nanood din ako puro emotion ng sambayanan..
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 09, 2020 at 08:38 AM
Let us wait and see. Lugi abs in the billions as per financial statement.

Where did you get this info?  Their last audited financial statement being 2018 was a net income of 1.9 billion.
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 09:11 AM
Where did you get this info?  Their last audited financial statement being 2018 was a net income of 1.9 billion.
Holdings yan. Yung abs cbn. Yung nawalan ng franchise. Ibang company kasi ang na expire ang franchise. Kaya net income ng holding positive dahil sa ibang companies profit na hindi need franchise.
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 09:14 AM
oo. nakalimutan na ang covid.. kagabi nanood din ako puro emotion ng sambayanan..
Kasi  you cannot argue with emotions. Feelings yan ng tao. No argument there.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 09, 2020 at 09:52 AM
the supreme court itself said that a provisionary authority can be authorized if their renewal of franchise is pending, the sec. of justice  (meynardo guevarra) himself said with the concurrence of the two houses with the matter pending, the ntc can issue the provisional authority. On march 11, ntc deputy commissioner ed cabarrios stated that the ntc will issue a provisional permit, unless there is restraint from the court.. So they LIED.. the ntc move was clearly a grave abuse of discretion, irregular, & improper by this time of pandemic.. instead of being neutral and doing their job "right", why only pinpoint a certain tv network while others still can operate whose franchise pending & did not receive a cease & decease order from them?  at this time of crisis, we know how abs-cbn is a big help for sevicing filipinos not just by entertainment but providing information & necessities to all.. for what happen, they only show how dirty this government work & for what they say can't be trusted, one thing they are good at.. work for personal interest even if filipino suffers..  :P

all of this under oath sa congressional hearings...
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 09, 2020 at 09:52 AM
Holdings yan. Yung abs cbn. Yung nawalan ng franchise. Ibang company kasi ang na expire ang franchise. Kaya net income ng holding positive dahil sa ibang companies profit na hindi need franchise.

Can you post a link?  Because the ABS-CBN company that has a net income of 1.9 billion is indeed the one that lost the franchise.
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Post by: dpogs on May 09, 2020 at 09:53 AM
Kasi  you cannot argue with emotions. Feelings yan ng tao. No argument there.

Yup. Mahirap talaga makipag argue pag puro emotion pinapairal... puro ka din emotion di mo lang napapansin kasi natatakpan mata mo ng pera.


Sub begin

Sabi nga love of money is the root of all evil. Sana lahat ng dds bawas bawasan pagiging ganid sa pera. Para naman makita nila ano ba talaga kacorrupt ang current admin na ito.

Parang art of war lang yan. Give them money then they will surrender their will. Sabi nga confuciouseous confuse your enemy. Dont let emotion bleh bleh bleh

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Damn... parang tanga lang pala kapag ganito style gagawin ko LOL
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Post by: tony on May 09, 2020 at 09:54 AM
Holdings yan. Yung abs cbn. Yung nawalan ng franchise. Ibang company kasi ang na expire ang franchise. Kaya net income ng holding positive dahil sa ibang companies profit na hindi need franchise.

singled out lang talaga ang abs cbn, merong mga vested interests at oligarchs ni digong burat ang gustong makuha ang network.....ito nalang ang pagkakataon nila na magawa habang nakaupo pa si burat, pag napalagpas ito wala na...
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Post by: JeromeA on May 09, 2020 at 09:56 AM
Kasi  you cannot argue with emotions. Feelings yan ng tao. No argument there.

uunahin mo emotions ng tao kesa ibalita ang tungkol sa pandemic at iba pang mahahalagang balita? napakaliit na bagay yun compare sa nangyayari sa buong mundo.
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 10:03 AM
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/737258/gma-network-s-25-year-franchise-renewed-prior-to-expiry/story/
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Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 10:06 AM
uunahin mo emotions ng tao kesa ibalita ang tungkol sa pandemic at iba pang mahahalagang balita? napakaliit na bagay yun compare sa nangyayari sa buong mundo.
Tawag nyan self preservation. Survival ang pinagusapan. Ang pandemic okay lang yan. Pag namatay, libing or cremate. Para hindi ma kontra, use emotions. No argument.
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Post by: dpogs on May 09, 2020 at 10:11 AM
singled out lang talaga ang abs cbn, merong mga vested interests at oligarchs ni digong burat ang gustong makuha ang network.....ito nalang ang pagkakataon nila na magawa habang nakaupo pa si burat, pag napalagpas ito wala na...

Sa dami na pwedeng gawin ng admin lalo na may covid pandemic inuuna pa talaga self interest ng admin na ito. Imbes na tutukan paano ililigtas buhay ng tai inuuna pa pangbubully sa mga kalaban nila sa pulitika. Hays... wala na bang matinong magawa ang admin na ito?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 09, 2020 at 10:13 AM
singled out lang talaga ang abs cbn, merong mga vested interests at oligarchs ni digong burat ang gustong makuha ang network.....ito nalang ang pagkakataon nila na magawa habang nakaupo pa si burat, pag napalagpas ito wala na...
Hindi kasalanan ni Digong nd naayos franchise. Grab lang opportunity that presented itself. Madali solution nyan. Ayaw lng ng abs. Sino ayala executive dito? Ano marching order ng ceo during elections? Wait and see and support the winning candidate after elections. That is how you do business to last another hundred years.
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Post by: tony on May 09, 2020 at 10:18 AM
Hindi kasalanan ni Digong nd naayos franchise. Grab lang opportunity that presented itself. Madali solution nyan. Ayaw lng ng abs. Sino ayala executive dito? Ano marching order ng ceo during elections? Wait and see and support the winning candidate after elections. That is how you do business to last another hundred years.

naku maniwala ka, walang dahon na malalaglag sa tangkay kung hindi kagustuhan ni burat...tandaan mo yan...
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 09, 2020 at 10:55 AM
uunahin mo emotions ng tao kesa ibalita ang tungkol sa pandemic at iba pang mahahalagang balita? napakaliit na bagay yun compare sa nangyayari sa buong mundo.

Tama naman yang sinabi mo.  Pero it also applies to Duterte and his admin.  Sa dami ng problema sa covid ng admin, binigyan pa ng panahon itong franchise cancelation?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on May 09, 2020 at 12:09 PM
Tawag nyan self preservation. Survival ang pinagusapan. Ang pandemic okay lang yan. Pag namatay, libing or cremate. Para hindi ma kontra, use emotions. No argument.
ganito ang reasoning ng mga taong ipagpapalit pati kaluluwa nya maipagtangol lang si pdutz kapalit ng pera..
being a troll = easy money.. :P
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 09, 2020 at 12:27 PM
Uy,,, huwag kukurap baka magpalit ng may.ari ang frequencies
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: pekspert on May 09, 2020 at 03:41 PM
all i can say is good riddance to such a biased news company.. pero aminado ako temporary lang yan..babalik din yang bisased network na yan

At least nabawasan ang yabang nila at alam nila hindi sila untouchable. Tama Ntc na di sila pwede maningil sa tvplus nila. It should be all free.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 03:49 PM
Biased reporting is protected by the law. What's not is libel.

Tvplus is free di ba?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on May 09, 2020 at 04:09 PM
Biased reporting is protected by the law. What's not is libel.

Tvplus is free di ba?

yung KBO nila my bayad.. yung laban ni pacman mayweather nagpa pay per view din sila.. tindi
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 04:12 PM
Analog service ba ang kbo?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on May 09, 2020 at 04:40 PM
Analog service ba ang kbo?

digital. pay per view channel nila yan. my pinapalabas silang mga movies every week. my line up ng movies sa buong week tapos magbabayad ka pwede mo ng ma access. 30pesos per week,. kaya matagal ang availability sa torrent ng mga tagalog movies kasi pineperahan muna nila sa KBO bago i release. lalo pag mga MMFF.

tapos pag my laban ni manny dun pay per view din.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 04:44 PM
Oh, so it's not covered by the ntc then. Just a normal ppv channel.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: pekspert on May 09, 2020 at 04:48 PM
Analog service ba ang kbo?
Oh, so it's not covered by the ntc then. Just a normal ppv channel.
holy cow :o
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 09, 2020 at 04:53 PM
haay bizne$$ nga naman
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 09, 2020 at 04:56 PM
o.t.
kase nmn dapat mag digital na pinas
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 05:16 PM
o.t.
kase nmn dapat mag digital na pinas

Di ba nag roll out na nga ng digital terrestrial tv using ISDB format.. kaya nga nilabas ni abs yung mahiwagang black box...alam ko ang plan is to free the analog channel na gagamitin for other purpose tapos lahat digital broadcast na..sa ngayon kasi abs ang lead sa broadcast in the pilipins.. lakas ng digital signal nila..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 05:18 PM
digital. pay per view channel nila yan. my pinapalabas silang mga movies every week. my line up ng movies sa buong week tapos magbabayad ka pwede mo ng ma access. 30pesos per week,. kaya matagal ang availability sa torrent ng mga tagalog movies kasi pineperahan muna nila sa KBO bago i release. lalo pag mga MMFF.

tapos pag my laban ni manny dun pay per view din.

Ok lang na perahan nila yan.. support Philippines pa din yan kesa sa international tayo mag bayad.. kikita din naman Pilipino dyan.. di ba nag rereklamo na nga si erik kasi kalaban nila K drama..

Ngayon yung KBO option mo lang kung gusto mo manood.. parang netflix din..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 05:20 PM
Oh, so it's not covered by the ntc then. Just a normal ppv channel.

Covered pa din yata kasi nag broadcast ka eeh may frequency pa din encrypted nga lang
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 05:23 PM
yung KBO nila my bayad.. yung laban ni pacman mayweather nagpa pay per view din sila.. tindi

May ibang digital tv box na.may offer din ng premium channel.. ano nga ba brand yun?  NBA ba or anong sports channel yun bundled exclusive sa box na yun..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 05:27 PM
Covered pa din yata kasi nag broadcast ka eeh may frequency pa din encrypted nga lang

The franchise being disputed is for the analog one, yes? Yung channel 2 at 630 AM? If kbo is illegal, why didn't the ntc stop it?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 05:56 PM
The franchise being disputed is for the analog one, yes? Yung channel 2 at 630 AM? If kbo is illegal, why didn't the ntc stop it?

That i dont know.. pero di ba nung una wala pang permit yang tv plus kaya libre yan dati.. pinamimigay nga nila ted yan with mahiwagang back pack.. tapos nung ok na permit.. nag benta na sila..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 05:58 PM
Yung tvplus ay device, hindi pwedeng libre yun hehe hindi rin naman namigay ng libreng baron antenna si ntc di ba?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: yapoy86 on May 09, 2020 at 06:15 PM
Libre yung tv plus nila dati sa dzmm promo nila.. pag nasagot mo yung tanong yun premyo mo.. tv plus at back pack nung unang labas nyan.. nag promote pa lang sila ng digital tv.. di ko pa nga magets dati kung ano yung black box nila eh... digital tv pala
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 09, 2020 at 06:18 PM
Yun nga, libre dahil sa promo. Parang free taste lang sa supermarket.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 09, 2020 at 06:20 PM
walang poreber
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: ti on May 09, 2020 at 06:27 PM
meron ba dito naniniwala na makakapagere sila in 1 month?

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 10, 2020 at 03:50 AM
nasa you tube at facebook na sila....so hindi tlagang completely suppresed...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on May 10, 2020 at 08:16 AM
nasa you tube at facebook na sila....so hindi tlagang completely suppresed...

sir tony hindi lang sa socia media.

bumalik na talaga sila sa pag ere. hindi lang sa channel 2. ginagamit nila yung channel dzmm, cinemo..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Fox Mulder on May 10, 2020 at 02:20 PM
A lecture on ECE Laws from a Dean of Electronics and Communications Engineering (ECE) in one of our State Universities....

On the side of NTC:

Although NTC made a promise during one of the congressional hearings that they will issue Provisional Authority (PA) to ABS-CBN to operate as advised by congress, they cannot simply do so because PA CAN ONLY BE ISSUED IF THERE IS AN EXISTING FRANCHISE. Which in the case of ABS-CBN expired last May 4, 2020. That rule cannot simply be overturned by a mere resolution from the congress. NTC chose to break its promise than to break the law.

Is it legal for ABS-CBN to air multiple contents?

Section 2.3 of NTC MC 07-12-2014 states that
"A duly authorized DTT Broadcasting service provider SHALL HAVE THE OPTION, manifested in its application to NTC, to adopt either single or multi-program HDTV format or single or multi-program SDTV format, or any combination thereof, for its digital service."

Is it legal for ABS-CBN to engage in pay-per-view(PPV) service (KBO)?

The NTC said that in a way, there is still a violation on the part of ABS-CBN because there was no implementing rules and regulations yet and they still have to release guidelines on the PPV service.
So it is NOT ABS-CBN's fault? NTC should have released an IRR a long time ago.

On the side of the Federation of International Cable TV Associates of the Philippines (FICTAP):

They claimed that the broadcasting giant is killing the cable TV industry in the country. While its true that most if not all of ABS-CBN's broadcast offerings received the necessary government regulatory offerings, migration to Digital Terrestrial Broadcast (DTT) and the concept of Black Box and KBO is indeed killing the Cable TV Industry.
There may not be a gross violation on the part of ABS-CBN, but taking advantage of the DTT Migration because of the lack of safeguards to protect the CATV industry is pushing ABS-CBN to further inflict damage on them.
Instead of FICTAP crying foul on ABS-CBN, they should have requested the Congress or NTC to put safeguards on the DTT law to protect the CATV Industry from being overrun by DTT technology.

FICTAP is also claiming that ABS-CBN erred when they broadcast MULTIPLE contents in Digital when their franchise in Analog only allows them to broadcast a SINGLE content. Unfortunately, it is also being done by other networks.

Here is a simple explanation on the issue raised by PICTAF:

Section 5.2 Spectrum Allocation of NTC MC 07-12-2014 on Rules and Regulations for Digital Terrestrial Television (DTT) Broadcast Service clearly states that

 "A bandwidth of 6MHz shall be assigned for each authorized DTT Broadcasting Service per service area".

The same bandwidth is used in the Analog TV. Analog is under the VHF/UHF spectrum while DTT is under UHF spectrum. Analog has 1 program per channel bandwidth while DTT can accommodate multiple programs per channel bandwidth.
This is the reason why in Analog, ABS-CBN has 2 channel bandwidth, ABS-CBN(VHF) and Studio 23(UHF) while in DTT, they have ABS-CBN 2, ABS-CBN S+A, DZMM Teleradyo, Asianovela Channel, CineMo, Jeepney TV, Movie Central, MYX, YeY, KBO, Knowledge Channel, and O Shopping all in UHF.

Is ABS-CBN killing the CATV Industry?

CATV Industry is offering a handful of local and international programs and contents on top of the free-to-air contents. Also, CATV can offer most of their programs in HD. However, we cannot deny the fact that viewers are now having several program options in DTT as compared with Analog TV and there is a big possibility that a number of viewers will shift from CATV to DTT. If the government can come up with a clear law that will prohibit DTT Networks to do pay-per-view, I don't think we will still hear noises from these CATV operators.



Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2020 at 02:29 PM
...
On the side of NTC:

Although NTC made a promise during one of the congressional hearings that they will issue Provisional Authority (PA) to ABS-CBN to operate as advised by congress, they cannot simply do so because PA CAN ONLY BE ISSUED IF THERE IS AN EXISTING FRANCHISE. Which in the case of ABS-CBN expired last May 4, 2020. That rule cannot simply be overturned by a mere resolution from the congress. NTC chose to break its promise than to break the law.
...

The NTC shouldn't have promised anything at all. Resource entity sila during the hearings. Kung simula pa lang sinabi nila na di pwede, e di sana iba situation ngayon.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Fox Mulder on May 10, 2020 at 02:38 PM
The NTC shouldn't have promised anything at all. Resource entity sila during the hearings. Kung simula pa lang sinabi nila na di pwede, e di sana iba situation ngayon.

I had the chance to deal with this govt agency when I was still working in Telecoms. They're a bunch of  idiots.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 10, 2020 at 02:40 PM
The NTC shouldn't have promised anything at all. Resource entity sila during the hearings. Kung simula pa lang sinabi nila na di pwede, e di sana iba situation ngayon.
Ikaw nga ba yun nagsabi na delaying tactics lang yun promise...?  Hehe!

So in the end even in the PPV area, walang ginawang guidelines pala ang NTC.  Parang mga consequences ang mga nangyari sa ABS arising from walang actions na ginawa ang NTC. Hindi naman kaya intentional yun hindi pag-action?

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 10, 2020 at 02:40 PM
I had the chance to deal with this govt agency when I was still working in Telecoms. They're a bunch of  idiots.
Thanks for sharing 

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2020 at 02:47 PM
Ikaw nga ba yun nagsabi na delaying tactics lang yun promise...?  Hehe!


I don't recall saying that hehe But I'd appreciate if someone can dig that up if ever I did.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 10, 2020 at 02:51 PM
I don't recall saying that hehe But I'd appreciate if someone can dig that up if ever I did.
Im not sure naman pero anyway, the essence is hopefully there naman that the promise of temporary permit is just delaying tactics.  Hehe!

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2020 at 03:03 PM
Pwede bang Supreme Court na lang yung gawing resource entity sa hearings? Sa kanila rin naman nae-escalate e.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 10, 2020 at 05:49 PM
I had the chance to deal with this govt agency when I was still working in Telecoms. They're a bunch of  idiots.
Had an experience. May nakita lang sa brochure na 450 mhz need daw permit. Pinasabi ko nd yan broadcast to air. Wired yan. No antenna. Nag okay naman. Ganun lang yan to deal with idiots. Just explain in layman's terms.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 10, 2020 at 06:01 PM
The NTC shouldn't have promised anything at all. Resource entity sila during the hearings. Kung simula pa lang sinabi nila na di pwede, e di sana iba situation ngayon.
Kaya ngayon hinahabol na sila sa promise nila. Hindi pwede change of mind ang reason. To sum up ang need mag usap para ma resolve ang issue ay congress at abs. Kaso ang dalawa wala naman sinasabi na things to do or next steps. Puro nag sisihan. Dapat ikulong yung dalawa sa isang room at hindi pwede lumabas until nagkasundo sila. Kung sisihan lang and kung ano ano ginagawa, it will not solve this problem kasi nd na address yung root cause. Franchise. Ano next step congress? Wala. Puro sisihan. Abs? Email blast, cardo and chiu socmed blast. Somebody must step up to resolve this issue.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on May 10, 2020 at 06:43 PM
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1272388/fb-post-of-govt-task-force-to-end-local-conflict-on-abs-cbn-franchise-gets-denial-from-pcoo-office-of-malacanang-spokesman
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 10, 2020 at 06:57 PM
Kaya ngayon hinahabol na sila sa promise nila. Hindi pwede change of mind ang reason. To sum up ang need mag usap para ma resolve ang issue ay congress at abs. Kaso ang dalawa wala naman sinasabi na things to do or next steps. Puro nag sisihan. Dapat ikulong yung dalawa sa isang room at hindi pwede lumabas until nagkasundo sila. Kung sisihan lang and kung ano ano ginagawa, it will not solve this problem kasi nd na address yung root cause. Franchise. Ano next step congress? Wala. Puro sisihan. Abs? Email blast, cardo and chiu socmed blast. Somebody must step up to resolve this issue.

Actually it's only the House which has to move.  ABS-CBN said they have submitted all necessary documents na raw.  If anyone it's only Cayetano who needs to start the ball rolling.  After a week and three sessions, Cayetano has not scheduled any hearing.  Nagtatago pa din kasi.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: t-bone on May 10, 2020 at 07:22 PM
(https://imgur.com/cpgq9Pm.jpg)
Ugly inside and out.

A-an-hin mo yung pera mo, e ang pangit naman ng mukha mo  >:(
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on May 10, 2020 at 08:17 PM
(https://imgur.com/cpgq9Pm.jpg)
Ugly inside and out.

A-an-hin mo yung pera mo, e ang pangit naman ng mukha mo  >:(
dami nman chicks, dahil dami pera - Calida  ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 10, 2020 at 10:27 PM
Actually it's only the House which has to move.  ABS-CBN said they have submitted all necessary documents na raw.  If anyone it's only Cayetano who needs to start the ball rolling.  After a week and three sessions, Cayetano has not scheduled any hearing.  Nagtatago pa din kasi.

Hmm. Parang may questions pa yata that ended up in calida qw case. Eto legal kasi tax avoidance not evasion.
https://bilyonaryo.com.ph/2020/05/10/sana-all-gmas-annette-gozon-valdes-envies-abs-cbns-tax-avoidance-scheme-through-peza-firm-big-dipper/?fbclid=IwAR3YsWvTcwnVnNPaemG_2UIYDlfTM0ZdwTcY36_di-oZCylonD0RIGC4LcoIn
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 10, 2020 at 10:40 PM
Hmm. Parang may questions pa yata that ended up in calida qw case. Eto legal kasi tax avoidance not evasion.
https://bilyonaryo.com.ph/2020/05/10/sana-all-gmas-annette-gozon-valdes-envies-abs-cbns-tax-avoidance-scheme-through-peza-firm-big-dipper/?fbclid=IwAR3YsWvTcwnVnNPaemG_2UIYDlfTM0ZdwTcY36_di-oZCylonD0RIGC4LcoIn

Relevance to the premise that the House should tackle already ABS-CBN's franchise and that Cayetano needs to start moving his behind?

If ABS-CBN is doing something illegal in paying their taxes, then it should be brought up during the House's hearings right?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 11, 2020 at 06:45 AM
di daw bibilhin ni dennis uy ang abscbn

alamna?!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: dyerds on May 11, 2020 at 08:46 AM
They will not do it directly but indirectly.

Quarantine = Martial Law
Pres to cancel franchise of ABS CBN = Calida/Congress
China Invasion = POGO
ABS CBN to be acquired by Dennis Uy = ???
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Philjonc on May 11, 2020 at 01:07 PM
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/737620/dennis-uy-no-plans-for-udenna-to-acquire-abs-cbn/story/
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: ALICE GO on May 11, 2020 at 01:15 PM
BAKIT anong klaseng tao ba ang nanonood ng Channel 2?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on May 11, 2020 at 07:15 PM
Starting today start na total self lockdown para sa mga staffs. May 25 resume na ulit taping ni cardo. Langya
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 11, 2020 at 09:29 PM
BAKIT anong klaseng tao ba ang nanonood ng Channel 2?

malamang sa hindi di mo kauri...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 11, 2020 at 09:30 PM
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/737620/dennis-uy-no-plans-for-udenna-to-acquire-abs-cbn/story/

the opposite is true.....gaano na ba ibinagsak ng shares of stock ng abs cbn?
o baka naman outright confiscation ala marcos 1972.....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: istan on May 11, 2020 at 09:41 PM
Its not being traded since the off the air event, as I recalled.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 11, 2020 at 10:11 PM
the opposite is true.....gaano na ba ibinagsak ng shares of stock ng abs cbn?
o baka naman outright confiscation ala marcos 1972.....

About P60 per share two years ago to about P17 per share nowadays.  Total loss of around P30 billion the last two years alone.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 12, 2020 at 05:22 AM
Relevance to the premise that the House should tackle already ABS-CBN's franchise and that Cayetano needs to start moving his behind?

If ABS-CBN is doing something illegal in paying their taxes, then it should be brought up during the House's hearings right?

yes, and that senate hearing bared it all, all under oath....yung oppositors it seems merong vested interests,they want the network for themselves, malaki kikitain nila when it happens...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 12, 2020 at 05:23 AM
About P60 per share two years ago to about P17 per share nowadays.  Total loss of around P30 billion the last two years alone.

this is sad....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on May 12, 2020 at 07:35 AM
Relevance to the premise that the House should tackle already ABS-CBN's franchise and that Cayetano needs to start moving his behind?

If ABS-CBN is doing something illegal in paying their taxes, then it should be brought up during the House's hearings right?
Yes. Dapat magka alaman na. Para matapos. Actually, what they are doing is tax avoidance. Kasi wala pa transfer pricing tax and Pinas. Sa Japan may transfer pricing tax, kaya yung ginawa ng ABS na may Big Dipper company which provides services to ABS Hungary, may transfer pricing tax. Kasi when you are dealing with subsidiary or affiliate company, Kung ano profit margin between company, same with every company transaction. ABS made use of no transfer tax law in Phils. So ABS Hungary has big income but only one person employee. ABS business partner is only Big Dipper(PEZA). Big dipper  business partners- ABS Phils and ABS Hungary.  Ang ABS Hungary malaki kita kasi maliit tax rate in Hungary. As an Example, benta ABS Probinsyano series in raw form for 100 pesos to ABS Hungary. ABS Hungary gets services of Big Dipper for digitalization, subtitling, packaging to suit other countries and pays 10 pesos to Big Dipper for the services. ABS Hungary distributes worldwide and sells for 100,000. Or maybe ABS->Big Dipper-> ABS Hungary. Whatever pays less taxes total will be the preferred route. This is tax avoidance. Time for Congress to plug this loophole.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 13, 2020 at 05:21 PM
aprub na !

UPDATE: Aprubado na ang House Bill 6732, ang panukalang batas na nagkakaloob ng provisional franchise sa ABS-CBN hanggang Oktubre 31, 2020.  #ABSCBNfranchise

BASAHIN: https://bit.ly/361oxML


dapat panoorin speech ni speaker
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 13, 2020 at 06:56 PM
https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/737620/dennis-uy-no-plans-for-udenna-to-acquire-abs-cbn/story/

Dennis Uy backtracked, he signified his intentions since last year or so....this is double talk...besides kung si burat mismo ang naguudyok basta me parte sya...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 13, 2020 at 06:57 PM
cawatano is a mixed bag, in the end ang loyalty nya is with digong burat pa rin...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: ALICE GO on May 13, 2020 at 11:53 PM
I'VE always known it all along, the Lopezes will get what they want, when they want it. We will never win against this bloodsucker. Ayaw ko na lang itong pakaisipin - that once more, the Lopezes will never want of a motley crowd who will championed its cause - kasi may edad na ako and my heart will not be able to absorbed anymore this frustration, this despair, of finally seeing the day when this wily, ultra-rich schemers kneel down in defeat. The other day someone named Joel Pablo Salud whose career is summed up as a journalist and as a political and literary writer, wrote a "letter" to F. Sionil Jose urging the 95-year old pundit to "reconsider" his profound view on the Lopezes ("I'll not mourn the passing of ABS-CBN, the Filipinos do not really need ABS-CBN. It does not produce food or goods. It has certainly entertained millions but it did not diminish poverty. Its demise is even good for Philippine democracy if it also means the dismantling of the Lopez empire. The Lopez family is a leading member of the oligarchy—far more powerful than any of the oligarchs, then and now.") Again, the Lopez's lucky charm is working as it should, it found a sudden, unwitting defender from the literati. 

I have one thing to say to this Salud, Sionil Jose due to his age, his long life and the periods he went through that were the most tumultuous and life-shattering in our sad history as a people -- can be said to have seen it all. Whatever he has spoken about the Lopezes is not a composition of a journalist or a feature writer rushing an article for its 8 pm deadline for a spreadsheet that needs to published for tomorrow's issue. What he has spoken about this very powerful and rapacious family is a distillation of decades, even almost a century, of witnessing, learning and being whispered to about their atrocious scheming, their very crimes. Salud wants to talk the venerable old man into finding some modicum of virtues, a gram of a redeeming merit, in the Lopezes. Fool! You're trying to defend the indefensible, there is no redemption for the Lopezes, it sees all non-Lopezes as peasants or as useful idiots. Remember this, Jose has practically seen it all, you have not seen what he has seen about this family, for you were born a little too late...but not too late to missed what Jose has known all along - that the Lopezes has always been and will always be: An accursed thorn in the side of this sad, oppressed nation.....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 06:04 AM
in 1972 Marcos confiscated channels 2 and 4, and gave those channels to his cronny Romualdez, they were never compensated for those channels....so that in 1986, is it a wonder that they had to be given back those channels?, lugi pa nga sila dahil channel 2 lang ang naibalik, yung channel 4 remained in the hands of the government...

the Lopezes are oligarchs, and so are the many others, some went against Marcos like the Jacintos........

 the Roman catholic Church is the biggest oligarch of them all...remember that during the Spanish period they are also the powers in government......how much has the church shed, i have yet to see a study..

the Marcos Oligarchs still lord it over today, business has never been better...

digong burat's oligarchs are the Villars and the Uys are now......

what to do with oligarchs? do we decapitate their heads as Joma would like to?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on May 14, 2020 at 06:37 AM
odiva! weder.weder 
noveau rich at new cronies
pag malapit sa kusina, malapit sa ref at sa niluluto matikman kainin agad
...minsan napapaso din sa kalan

Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:03 AM
Marcos stole a lot of business from those that opposed him and he created new oligarchs......that is why it puzzled/annoyed me no end to see marcos loyalists still sticking with the dictator as if they benefited, young people whose parents were probably not even born yet...what a loss...

good thing sen Sotto did not go along the plan of digong burat to allow the take over of telecoms in the bayanihan law.....had it passed, Dennis Uy could be the new owner of channel 2....

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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:13 AM
Marcos stole a lot of business from those that opposed him and he created new oligarchs......that is why it puzzled/annoyed me no end to see marcos loyalists still sticking with the dictator as if they benefited, young people whose parents were probably not even born yet...what a loss...

good thing sen Sotto did not go along the plan of digong burat to allow the take over of telecoms in the bayanihan law.....had it passed, Dennis Uy could be the new owner of channel 2....


I think there is a provision in the franchise that government has the right to take over telecom facilities if needed.

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2006/03/10/325277/abs-cbn-gma-7-ask-congress-repeal-provision-allowing-gov146t-takeover
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Post by: Own7 on May 14, 2020 at 07:19 AM
Problema nang pinoy masyadong regionalistic. They will stick to their
Candidates thru thick and thin kahit ba napaka walanghiya.

Sa case naman ni digunggong eh they equate his brash personality
To sincerity. Sa sad.
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:20 AM
in 1972 Marcos confiscated channels 2 and 4, and gave those channels to his cronny Romualdez, they were never compensated for those channels....so that in 1986, is it a wonder that they had to be given back those channels?, lugi pa nga sila dahil channel 2 lang ang naibalik, yung channel 4 remained in the hands of the government...

the Lopezes are oligarchs, and so are the many others, some went against Marcos like the Jacintos........

 the Roman catholic Church is the biggest oligarch of them all...remember that during the Spanish period they are also the powers in government......how much has the church shed, i have yet to see a study..

the Marcos Oligarchs still lord it over today, business has never been better...

digong burat's oligarchs are the Villars and the Uys are now......

what to do with oligarchs? do we decapitate their heads as Joma would like to?
The best solution would be to increase the oligarchs, so that power will not be concentrated to the chosen few. So if marami na sila, hindi na sila matawag na oligarch. old rich and new rich na.. Sa akin naman as long as you operate fairly and within the law, no problem. Ang hirap kasi sa Pinoy minsan sour graper. May kapitbahay lang na umayos ang buhay, may chismis na agad. We do not seem to be happy when others succeed. Lagi may patama. We are sad when others are happy.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:21 AM
takeover does not mean confiscation outright as what marcos did in 1972...ownership of facilities remains, the right to life liberty and property are enshrined in the 1987 constitution just as it was in the 1935, the difference then was, who will dare question marcos?

the framers of the 1987 somehow anticipated that a digong burat would come along, they prepared for him...

today, no matter how digong burat lavish the military and the police with huge sums of money, he can not get them to make him a strongman ruler, still no cigar, and time is running out on his game burat...
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:26 AM
Problema nang pinoy masyadong regionalistic. They will stick to their
Candidates thru thick and thin kahit ba napaka walanghiya.

Sa case naman ni digunggong eh they equate his brash personality
To sincerity. Sa sad.
Kaya pala pag Ilocano Marcos Loyalist? Yung Ilocano daw ay masyadong loyal, ma politika or lovelife man. A friend with Ilocano roots told me na ganun daw trait ng Ilocano. Pag na inlove, forever, kahit na ayawan na.

Kaya na coin yung "Solid North'. And ginamit ni Duterte to his advantage during elections, kaya Ayun panalo Bongbong talo. Kasi ang circumstances plus kay Duterte, minus kay Bongbong when taking into consideration the whole nation.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:30 AM
The best solution would be to increase the oligarchs, so that power will not be concentrated to the chosen few. So if marami na sila, hindi na sila matawag na oligarch. old rich and new rich na.. Sa akin naman as long as you operate fairly and within the law, no problem. Ang hirap kasi sa Pinoy minsan sour graper. May kapitbahay lang na umayos ang buhay, may chismis na agad. We do not seem to be happy when others succeed. Lagi may patama. We are sad when others are happy.

you really have no clue.....

ony a strong middle class that is well educated and steeped in the principles of democracy is the only possibel solution....

why you may ask? becuase in a democracy the rich and the poor have just one vote each, and the many who are poor can always overrule the rich if and only if they are well educated on the issues and not taken to propaganda machinations....

that is why it think Joma Sison must give up the romantic notion of an armed struggle and join the mainstream of body politik...

we have seen how M. Gnahdi was able to secure Indian independence without firinig shots...

he have seen how Jesus Christ harvested lots of people, though he did not have guns and swords and an army, well his army are all unarmed with faith as the only armour/shields and truth as their weapons...

armed struggle can be good if there is a chance it can be over by Christmas, but for armed struggle to go on for 50+ years? that is the height of folly.......of stupidity......

if Joma can not pull off a Vietnam, then he better drop it...and join in the struggle thru parliamentary means....educate the people....serve the people.....never kill people...
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:31 AM
takeover does not mean confiscation outright as what marcos did in 1972...ownership of facilities remains, the right to life liberty and property are enshrined in the 1987 constitution just as it was in the 1935, the difference then was, who will dare question marcos?

the framers of the 1987 somehow anticipated that a digong burat would come along, they prepared for him...

today, no matter how digong burat lavish the military and the police with huge sums of money, he can not get them to make him a strongman ruler, still no cigar, and time is running out on his game burat...
I think that was his wish, but with socmed, cannot do. Sayang, maka step one sana tayo. Sa Asian setting kasi need dictator, tayo lang hindi naka used. South Korea, Singapore, Pinas, puro yun dictador, kaso sila naka usad, tayo hindi, dahil iba ang pakay ni Marcos, to perpetuate his rule. Sa Korea and Singapore, country ang inuna.

Matagal kasi mag implement ng reforms pag hindi ka dictador. Yung hindi dictatorship, okay yun pag ang tao may sense ng love of country na. Pag wala, democrazy Philippine style ang maranasan.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:32 AM
Kaya pala pag Ilocano Marcos Loyalist? Yung Ilocano daw ay masyadong loyal, ma politika or lovelife man. A friend with Ilocano roots told me na ganun daw trait ng Ilocano. Pag na inlove, forever, kahit na ayawan na.

Kaya na coin yung "Solid North'. And ginamit ni Duterte to his advantage during elections, kaya Ayun panalo Bongbong talo. Kasi ang circumstances plus kay Duterte, minus kay Bongbong when taking into consideration the whole nation.

not true, Joma Sison is a lakay....someday a true leader will come from the north and the marcos myth will be shattered...

who would have ever thought that a Vico Sotto will rise in Pasig?
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:36 AM
I think that was his wish, but with socmed, cannot do. Sayang, maka step one sana tayo. Sa Asian setting kasi need dictator, tayo lang hindi naka used. South Korea, Singapore, Pinas, puro yun dictador, kaso sila naka usad, tayo hindi, dahil iba ang pakay ni Marcos, to perpetuate his rule. Sa Korea and Singapore, country ang inuna.

Matagal kasi mag implement ng reforms pag hindi ka dictador. Yung hindi dictatorship, okay yun pag ang tao may sense ng love of country na. Pag wala, democrazy Philippine style ang maranasan.

this is utterly wrong....democracy is still the best....
Singapore has a strongman yes, but strong in his adherence to clean government....and honest to goodness servitude to the people...

here we have a president who is more inclined to boast about the size of his penis than come up with solutions to our problems...relies on fake surveys and a troll army to prop up his image..

the marcos dictatorship model is a debunked model a discredited one too..why go there again?
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:39 AM
you really have no clue.....

ony a strong middle class that is well educated and steeped in the principles of democracy is the only possibel solution....

why you may ask? becuase in a democracy the rich and the poor have just one vote each, and the many who are poor can always overrule the rich if and only if they are well educated on the issues and not taken to propaganda machinations....

that is why it think Joma Sison must give up the romantic notion of an armed struggle and join the mainstream of body politik...

we have seen how M. Gnahdi was able to secure Indian independence without firinig shots...

he have seen how Jesus Christ harvested lots of people, though he did not have guns and swords and an army, well his army are all unarmed with faith as the only armour/shields and truth as their weapons...

armed struggle can be good if there is a chance it can be over by Christmas, but for armed struggle to go on for 50+ years? that is the height of folly.......of stupidity......

if Joma can not pull off a Vietnam, then he better drop it...and join in the struggle thru parliamentary means....educate the people....serve the people.....never kill people...
I agree with your idea on communism. Pag may struggle na hindi time based and walang objective, hindi mag succeed yun. Yung Vietnam wala sila timeline, pero may objective sila- kill as many americans as they can, kasi alam nila yung tao sa America ayaw ng maraming mamatay na Americano. Kaya Ayun evacuate. They know their enemy. Yung strong middle class naman hindi yan mangyari if walang maraming oligarch di ba? Ano ba middle class sa Pinas? Working class right? Nasa management level yan kasi middle class. sa hierarchy naman ng company hindi naman pwede majority nasa management. So ano ang solution para marami middle class? Small business. Paano cultivate? Damihan oligarch!. In jest only. I think best way to middle class is by having small business. Hwag umasa maging employee. Kasi if hindi ka management, hindi ka maging middle class.
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:42 AM
this is utterly wrong....democracy is still the best....
Singapore has a strongman yes, but strong in his adherence to clean government....and honest to goodness servitude to the people...

here we have a president who is more inclined to boast about the size of his penis than come up with solutions to our problems...relies on fake surveys and a troll army to prop up his image..

the marcos dictatorship model is a debunked model a discredited one too..why go there again?
So Lee of Singapore was not a dictator? The whole world was saying he was. He was, but he used it to make Singapore better. You think at that time of Lee democracy worked? I don't think so. Yes democracy is still best, if we have a clean and good government. But as long as we do not have that, dictatorship is the only solution. You think democracy will clean up our courts? It is only by firing squad the corrupt judges can we clean the courts. Why? because they are the last resort.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:47 AM
I agree with your idea on communism. Pag may struggle na hindi time based and walang objective, hindi mag succeed yun. Yung Vietnam wala sila timeline, pero may objective sila- kill as many americans as they can, kasi alam nila yung tao sa America ayaw ng maraming mamatay na Americano. Kaya Ayun evacuate. They know their enemy. Yung strong middle class naman hindi yan mangyari if walang maraming oligarch di ba? Ano ba middle class sa Pinas? Working class right? Nasa management level yan kasi middle class. sa hierarchy naman ng company hindi naman pwede majority nasa management. So ano ang solution para marami middle class? Small business. Paano cultivate? Damihan oligarch!. In jest only. I think best way to middle class is by having small business. Hwag umasa maging employee. Kasi if hindi ka management, hindi ka maging middle class.

wrong again, the Vietnamese had only one objective, and that was to drive out the Americans from their country which they did in 1975....clear objective....they won....they even drove out the Chinese invaders after that....so i do not get it when digong burat is so scared of the Chinese...
if there is a group of people i will never want to meet in a war as an enemy, those will be the Vietnamese...

there is a new classification now and that pertained to salary, and if that was the basis, my eldest daughter is now at the upper middle class....
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:48 AM
If you read the life of Lee, at that time Malaysia cut off Singapore, the communists were positioning themselves, and Lee said he could get killed at that time. When he took power, there was no opposition. He converted slums to tenement housing. People has no right to choose what floor or door he will live in. Govt. choose. Siya mismo nagsabi. Dami daw galit sa kanya. That is dictatorship. If democrazy Philippine style yun, take over na ng Kadamay equivalent doon. Yung ginawa ng Kadamay ,if ginawa nila sa Singapore yun at that time gumawa tenement housing ang Singapore? Ewan kung saan sila pupulutin. Sa atin kasi democrazy nga, sige nalang.

I hope you get my point. Extraordinary situation requires extraordinary powers.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:54 AM
So Lee of Singapore was not a dictator? The whole world was saying he was. He was, but he used it to make Singapore better. You think at that time of Lee democracy worked? I don't think so. Yes democracy is still best, if we have a clean and good government. But as long as we do not have that, dictatorship is the only solution. You think democracy will clean up our courts? It is only by firing squad the corrupt judges can we clean the courts. Why? because they are the last resort.

the difference then with Lee and Marcos, if there is a very important decision to be made by government, he went back to the people in a referendum and asked for fresh mandates....

Marcos never did that, in fact when the 1975 constitution went up for ratification, there were no refferendum held, only baranggay raising of hands he claimed, ni hindi ko man lamang nasilayan yan in 1975....so there we had a dictator that trampled on the rights of the citicenz to a free and fair elections...so storngman in the phillipine setting is all about puttin roghshods over the people in order to perpetuate the strongman and amass great wealth leving the poor poeple to their suferings, did you even know that children in Negros died from malnutrition then? while Imeldific flaunted her 3000 pairs of shoes and partied al night long.....people are suffering from hunger and malnutrition....

so do not lecture me about strongman, it will never work here,
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:56 AM
wrong again, the Vietnamese had only one objective, and that was to drive out the Americans from their country which they did in 1975....clear objective....they won....they even drove out the Chinese invaders after that....so i do not get it when digong burat is so scared of the Chinese...
if there is a group of people i will never want to meet in a war as an enemy, those will be the Vietnamese...

there is a new classification now and that pertained to salary, and if that was the basis, my eldest daughter is now at the upper middle class....
But how to drive out americans? to kill as many americans. That was the objective. Ano ang reason bakit umalis ang America? Dahil hindi nila kaya or dahil ayaw na ng American people.

Yung drive out Americans, vision nila yun. How to obtain that vision was to kill as many americans. Baka hindi tayo nasa same page. Kasi vision ang sinasabi mo, Yung yearly or monthly objective naman ang sinasabi ko to achieve their vision.

Relate natin kay Joma. Ano vision nya sa Pinas? Drive out whoever is the President? How? Basta sooner or later Manalo din tayo. Ganun ang objective nila siguro. Kaya dead cause na ang CCP, kasi meron nga sila vision, pero objective wala. Important din ang objective, kasi yun ang way to reach your vision.

Kung sa Vietnamese objective nila drive out the americans, tapos hintay sila ng ayuda sa China, hindi yun mag prosper. Sila mismo ang gumawa target how to reach out para ma drive ang americans.
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Post by: tigkal on May 14, 2020 at 07:59 AM
the difference then with Lee and Marcos, if there is a very important decision to be made by government, he went back to the people in a referendum and asked for fresh mandates....

Marcos never did that, in fact when the 1975 constitution went up for ratification, there were no refferendum held, only baranggay raising of hands he claimed, ni hindi ko man lamang nasilayan yan in 1975....so there we had a dictator that trampled on the rights of the citicenz to a free and fair elections...so storngman in the phillipine setting is all about puttin roghshods over the people in order to perpetuate the strongman and amass great wealth leving the poor poeple to their suferings, did you even know that children in Negros died from malnutrition then? while Imeldific flaunted her 3000 pairs of shoes and partied al night long.....people are suffering from hunger and malnutrition....

so do not lecture me about strongman, it will never work here,

How come it worked in Singapore and not here? But in Singapore you cannot do rallies right? Even today, need permit. That is dictatorship. I think it will work here. Pasaway kasi ang Pinoy. Quarantine nga lang, hindi sinusunod sa democrazy. Very simple instruction cannot follow. Bakit? Because of Democrazy.
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 07:59 AM
If you read the life of Lee, at that time Malaysia cut off Singapore, the communists were positioning themselves, and Lee said he could get killed at that time. When he took power, there was no opposition. He converted slums to tenement housing. People has no right to choose what floor or door he will live in. Govt. choose. Siya mismo nagsabi. Dami daw galit sa kanya. That is dictatorship. If democrazy Philippine style yun, take over na ng Kadamay equivalent doon. Yung ginawa ng Kadamay ,if ginawa nila sa Singapore yun at that time gumawa tenement housing ang Singapore? Ewan kung saan sila pupulutin. Sa atin kasi democrazy nga, sige nalang.

I hope you get my point. Extraordinary situation requires extraordinary powers.

digong burat had 4 years in malacanang, and yet today i can still see the slum dwellers living at the banks of the esteros in P. Casal street, near the Malacanan palace what has his government done for them....? we have preponderance of laws, no extra ordinary power needed, just a firm resolve to help the poor is needed.....

today we are under martial law, disguised as the Bayanihan act.....how fast can government act? tulog sa araw gising sa gabi, parang si Erap lang...
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 08:04 AM
How come it worked in Singapore and not here? But in Singapore you cannot do rallies right? Even today, need permit. That is dictatorship. I think it will work here. Pasaway kasi ang Pinoy. Quarantine nga lang, hindi sinusunod sa democrazy. Very simple instruction cannot follow. Bakit? Because of Democrazy.

obvious ba? singapore had a matinong lider, Philippines have a gangster for a leader...
in Singapore, they have designated a place in a park where you can stand up and talk into a microphone and air grievances, they are free to speak up....they are evolving...matinong lider is what the philippines need......hindi yung namiminger ng katulong na natutulog...
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 08:12 AM
But how to drive out americans? to kill as many americans. That was the objective. Ano ang reason bakit umalis ang America? Dahil hindi nila kaya or dahil ayaw na ng American people.

Yung drive out Americans, vision nila yun. How to obtain that vision was to kill as many americans. Baka hindi tayo nasa same page. Kasi vision ang sinasabi mo, Yung yearly or monthly objective naman ang sinasabi ko to achieve their vision.

Relate natin kay Joma. Ano vision nya sa Pinas? Drive out whoever is the President? How? Basta sooner or later Manalo din tayo. Ganun ang objective nila siguro. Kaya dead cause na ang CCP, kasi meron nga sila vision, pero objective wala. Important din ang objective, kasi yun ang way to reach your vision.

Kung sa Vietnamese objective nila drive out the americans, tapos hintay sila ng ayuda sa China, hindi yun mag prosper. Sila mismo ang gumawa target how to reach out para ma drive ang americans.

the objective of the Vietnamese was to gain independence after being a colony of France for many years....itong mga amerikano, umepal dahil sa cold war with russia, the americans did not want vietnam to fall inder the russians.....a communist vietnam is a threat to the american bases in clark and subic.....

war is war and the name of the game is attrition, kill the enemy as much as you can, the Americans used massive flights of B-52 bombers dropping massive tonnage of bombs in carpet bombing raids in the north to get hte vietnamese back to the negotiating table.... and inspite of the advance military hardware and over 57k american lives, they still lost to the lowly Vietnamese....when you look at a war, you do not look at what the Vietnamese did to the Americans, look also at what the Americans did to the Vietnamese....such is war, and as Ninoy said, " in war there are no victors but all are victims..."

so you see why China never scared me.....even the mighty america can be defeated in war...
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Post by: tony on May 14, 2020 at 08:14 AM
Joma is for National Democracy, and massive part of that is genuine land reform....he is also against oligarchs who are like leeches sucking blood from the poor...a good ideology if you ask me, but the armed struggle part is what i am opposed to...

the National Democratic Front has two arms, the political arm and the armed component, the NPA...
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Post by: oweidah on May 15, 2020 at 07:38 AM
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Post by: stevesonk on May 15, 2020 at 07:50 AM
obvious ba? singapore had a matinong lider, Philippines have a gangster for a leader...
in Singapore, they have designated a place in a park where you can stand up and talk into a microphone and air grievances, they are free to speak up....they are evolving...matinong lider is what the philippines need......hindi yung namiminger ng katulong na natutulog...
kaya nasabi ng kasambahay "mukha na lang nagagalit kay ser"   :'(
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Post by: oweidah on May 15, 2020 at 08:12 AM
ay, di ba pwede gumamit ng ayuda? lagyan ng papsikol stick ?
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Post by: stevesonk on May 15, 2020 at 08:15 AM
ay, di ba pwede gumamit ng ayuda? lagyan ng papsikol stick ?
fabricate metal support ng matibay.. poopsikol stick nababale..  ;D
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Post by: oweidah on May 19, 2020 at 08:00 PM
uunga bka masalubsob pa

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Post by: stevesonk on May 19, 2020 at 09:08 PM
uunga bka masalubsob pa

haaay c doris mutya na masa bigornia, ganda ng pussy nya. cya agi ko nakikita. pero oks na rin c dj chacha, maski bagong panganak. milf 🤣
crush ko si nicole curato..  ^-^
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Post by: JeromeA on May 26, 2020 at 10:45 PM
ang kulit ni Marcoleta
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Post by: oweidah on May 26, 2020 at 10:52 PM
crush ko si nicole curato..  ^-^

mukang mahinhin
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Post by: JeromeA on May 26, 2020 at 11:03 PM
grabe pala mga violation ng ABS CBN. mukhang malabo ng bumalik to.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 26, 2020 at 11:09 PM
grabe pala mga violation ng ABS CBN. mukhang malabo ng bumalik to.

Violations?  During the Senate hearing the NTC, BIR, SEC and DOLE testified under oath wala daw violations ang ABS-CBN if I remember it correctly.  Wala rin nakabinbin na kaso in any courts.
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Post by: JeromeA on May 26, 2020 at 11:18 PM
Violations?  During the Senate hearing the NTC, BIR, SEC and DOLE testified under oath wala daw violations ang ABS-CBN if I remember it correctly.  Wala rin nakabinbin na kaso in any courts.

if hindi ka nakapanood ng statement ni Marcoleta eto ang link, anjan nabulgar lahat ng mali ng network.

highlights
more than 50yrs franchise
tax evasion 2018 tumubo pa sila.. gobyerno pa nagkautang sa kanila. may comparison jan sa GMA
yung pagbenta ng TVplus, pag payper view sa KBO anjan
11k employee pero 2k+ lang ang regular employee
pagpapabango ng pangalan nila sa pagtulong gamit ang lingkod kapamilya which is galing naman sa donations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGdkzbUYkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGdkzbUYkM)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 26, 2020 at 11:27 PM
if hindi ka nakapanood ng statement ni Marcoleta eto ang link, anjan nabulgar lahat ng mali ng network.

highlights
more than 50yrs franchise
tax evasion 2018 tumubo pa sila.. gobyerno pa nagkautang sa kanila. may comparison jan sa GMA
yung pagbenta ng TVplus, pag payper view sa KBO anjan
11k employee pero 2k+ lang ang regular employee
pagpapabango ng pangalan nila sa pagtulong gamit ang lingkod kapamilya which is galing naman sa donations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGdkzbUYkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGdkzbUYkM)

Pero lahat ng accusations ay kontra sa mga sinabi ng NTC, SEC, DOLE & BIR.  Hindi ba those are the ones who should be filing cases if totoong may nilabag ang ABS-CBN?  So why are there zero cases filed in court by the same government agencies?  Tax evasion for one na dapat sinampa ng BIR kung totoo.
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Post by: JeromeA on May 26, 2020 at 11:30 PM
Pero lahat ng accusations ay kontra sa mga sinabi ng NTC, SEC, DOLE & BIR.  Hindi ba those are the ones who should be filing cases if totoong may nilabag ang ABS-CBN?  So why are there zero cases filed in court by the same government agencies?  Tax evasion for one na dapat sinampa ng BIR kung totoo.

lets wait sa result..so lahat ng statement na yun pawang kasinungalingan? yung 50yrs palang yari na sila. tapos sa TV plus at sa number ng hindi regular na empleyado.. those are very obvious. ano masasabi mo dun? para sayo muna lets not talk about kung sino mas credible dito.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 26, 2020 at 11:58 PM
lets wait sa result..so lahat ng statement na yun pawang kasinungalingan? yung 50yrs palang yari na sila. tapos sa TV plus at sa number ng hindi regular na empleyado.. those are very obvious. ano masasabi mo dun? para sayo muna lets not talk about kung sino mas credible dito.

Let's wait sa result pero sa 50 years yari na sila?  Akala ko ba let's wait sa result? Pero those are very obvious kahit wala pang result?  Eto yun section ng Constitution involved....
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Section 11. No franchise, certificate, or any other form of authorization for the operation of a public utility shall be granted except to citizens of the Philippines or to corporations or associations organized under the laws of the Philippines, at least sixty per centum of whose capital is owned by such citizens; nor shall such franchise, certificate, or authorization be exclusive in character or for a longer period than fifty years. Neither shall any such franchise or right be granted except under the condition that it shall be subject to amendment, alteration, or repeal by the Congress when the common good so requires. The State shall encourage equity participation in public utilities by the general public. The participation of foreign investors in the governing body of any public utility enterprise shall be limited to their proportionate share in its capital, and all the executive and managing officers of such corporation or association must be citizens of the Philippines.

Hindi ba the 50 years refers to the duration of a franchise?  It can't be more that 50 years ang franchise duration.  Ang sinasabi ni Marcoleta is the totality of the number of years in operation ng ABS-CBN including renewal.

But if we compare it to GMA 7.....
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GMA Network (company)
GMA Network Center in Diliman, Quezon City, the headquarters of GMA Network.
Founded   June 14, 1950

So GMA at the time of renewal (2017?) was already 67 years old..also more than 50 years.  So if what Marcoleta saying is true, dapat hindi na rin narenew ang GMA 7?

Ikaw naman ano masasabi mo dun given the info above?
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Post by: JeromeA on May 27, 2020 at 12:19 AM
Let's wait sa result pero sa 50 years yari na sila?  Akala ko ba let's wait sa result? Pero those are very obvious kahit wala pang result?  Eto yun section ng Constitution involved....
Hindi ba the 50 years refers to the duration of a franchise?  It can't be more that 50 years ang franchise duration.  Ang sinasabi ni Marcoleta is the totality of the number of years in operation ng ABS-CBN including renewal.

But if we compare it to GMA 7.....
So GMA at the time of renewal (2017?) was already 67 years old..also more than 50 years.  So if what Marcoleta saying is true, dapat hindi na rin narenew ang GMA 7?

Ikaw naman ano masasabi mo dun given the info above?

i agree with you. dapat hindi narin ma renew ang GMA7..  kung hindi including renewal hindi sila aabot sa 50yrs?

paano naman ang 2000+ regular employees lang? is it legal? yung 2018 -tax is it true?
yung TVplus multi channel + pay per view sa KBO? is it legal?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 27, 2020 at 12:33 AM
i agree with you. dapat hindi narin ma renew ang GMA7..  kung hindi including renewal hindi sila aabot sa 50yrs?

paano naman ang 2000+ regular employees lang? is it legal? yung 2018 -tax is it true?
yung TVplus multi channel + pay per view sa KBO? is it legal?

One indication nga is if meron sinampang kaso ang BIR, DOLE, SEC & NTC.  Pero sabi nila under oath wala daw nilabag ang ABS-CBN.  Eto na nga ang mga regulatory bodies na mismo nagsasabi and testifying.

Pero if the above info regarding the 50 year rule already casts doubt on Marcoleta's allegations, how can the other accusations suddenly be "obvious" and "yari na"?
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Post by: JeromeA on May 27, 2020 at 12:48 AM
One indication nga is if meron sinampang kaso ang BIR, DOLE, SEC & NTC.  Pero sabi nila under oath wala daw nilabag ang ABS-CBN.  Eto na nga ang mga regulatory bodies na mismo nagsasabi and testifying.

Pero if the above info regarding the 50 year rule already casts doubt on Marcoleta's allegations, how can the other accusations suddenly be "obvious" and "yari na"?

so hindi pala totoo lahat ng paratang ni marco?

are you in favor na bumalik sa ere ang ABiasCBN?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 27, 2020 at 12:53 AM
so hindi pala totoo lahat ng paratang ni marco?

Di ba sabi ko sa 50 year rule pa lang in comparison to GMA, may doubt na sa veracity ng accusation?  Pero by saying obvious and yari na ABS-CBN, totoo na para sayo yun mga paratang ni Marcoleta?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 27, 2020 at 12:56 AM
are you in favor na bumalik sa ere ang ABiasCBN?

I am not in favor of the admin manipulating and weapnizing the law to suit their trivial and petty fetishes..  Why?  You want ABS-CBN off the air any means necessary?
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Post by: JeromeA on May 27, 2020 at 01:02 AM
I am not in favor of the admin manipulating and weapnizing the law to suit their trivial and petty fetishes..  Why?  You want ABS-CBN off the air any means necessary?

oo nga nuh. you have a point.

Di ba sabi ko sa 50 year rule pa lang in comparison to GMA, may doubt na sa veracity ng accusation?  Pero by saying obvious and yari na ABS-CBN, totoo na para sayo yun mga paratang ni Marcoleta?

it looks real to me.kaya nga everytime my mga napapanood o nababasa ako pinopost ko dito para maliwanagan ako.

pwede ba ko makahingi ng link na nag take under oath yung mga kinauukulan bilang patunay na walang nilabag na batas ang ABiaSCBN?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on May 27, 2020 at 01:22 AM
oo nga nuh. you have a point.

it looks real to me.kaya nga everytime my mga napapanood o nababasa ako pinopost ko dito para maliwanagan ako.

pwede ba ko makahingi ng link na nag take under oath yung mga kinauukulan bilang patunay na walang nilabag na batas ang ABiaSCBN?

Senate hearing on ABS-CBN: No breach of laws, franchise terms (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rappler.com/nation/252601-senate-hearing-abs-cbn-no-breach-of-laws-franchise-terms)
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Post by: JeromeA on May 27, 2020 at 02:28 AM
langya malayong malayo sa data ni marco

P14.398 billion from 2016 to 2019 according to rappler and tax na naibayad ng ABS.. saan kinuha ni marco ang data nya? at meron pa nga negative (2018).
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Post by: bumblebee on May 27, 2020 at 07:05 AM
False news spread faster than the truth.
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Post by: tony on May 27, 2020 at 07:17 AM
langya malayong malayo sa data ni marco

P14.398 billion from 2016 to 2019 according to rappler and tax na naibayad ng ABS.. saan kinuha ni marco ang data nya? at meron pa nga negative (2018).


kulto ni manalo member yan, so anong aasahan?
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Post by: bumblebee on May 28, 2020 at 08:06 AM
Umamin din.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1282109/ntc-shuttered-abs-cbn-due-to-solgen-quo-warranto-plea
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Post by: tigkal on May 28, 2020 at 08:51 AM
langya malayong malayo sa data ni marco

P14.398 billion from 2016 to 2019 according to rappler and tax na naibayad ng ABS.. saan kinuha ni marco ang data nya? at meron pa nga negative (2018).

Ang BIR ang may tamang sagot. Baka iba ang basis ng Rappler at ni Marco. Baka kay rappler, yung buong Lopez conglomerate, kasama First Gas, Sky cable, etc. Yung kay Marco, yung company na nag apply ng franchise.
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Post by: tigkal on May 28, 2020 at 08:56 AM
Bale 3.5B taxes yearly average. Compared sa 1B sa GMA 7. I think something's not right.
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 01, 2020 at 02:43 PM
ang probinsyano o jeepney tvplus ch1 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 01, 2020 at 05:09 PM
Bale 3.5B taxes yearly average. Compared sa 1B sa GMA 7. I think something's not right.


eto yung pinopoint out ko. pero according naman daw sa rappler yung BIR na mismo nagsabi walang nilabag na batas ang ABiasCBN pagdating sa payment ng taxes.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 01, 2020 at 05:15 PM
Bale 3.5B taxes yearly average. Compared sa 1B sa GMA 7. I think something's not right.

Why would you say it's not right?  Remember taxes are based on taxable net income.  Even if a company is much bigger compared to another, if expenses are also much bigger then taxable net income is also lower and thus taxes are likewise lesser.
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Post by: tony on Jun 01, 2020 at 07:16 PM
Bale 3.5B taxes yearly average. Compared sa 1B sa GMA 7. I think something's not right.

care to explain?
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 01, 2020 at 08:21 PM
tuloy na shooting ng ang probinsyano

bka gusto mag guest ni solgen


in fairness impressed ako kapamilya forever anthem

at k bawal lumabas
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 01, 2020 at 08:49 PM
tuloy na shooting ng ang probinsyano

bka gusto mag guest ni solgen


in fairness impressed ako kapamilya forever anthem

at k bawal lumabas
pdutz now singing from his home  @ davao..
pwede tumigas..
sana tumigas..
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Post by: tony on Jun 02, 2020 at 07:37 AM
if i read the house right, the prevailing sentiment is to grant the franchise, same with the senate, so it will all boil down to digong burat if he signs the bill into law...

they would rather do it by the SC to insulate digong burat from embarassing himself, sabagay kapa muks naman sya..
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 02, 2020 at 08:42 AM
pdutz now singing from his home  @ davao..
pwede tumigas..
sana tumigas..

🤣🤣🤣 bawal labasan bawal labasan
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Post by: tigkal on Jun 02, 2020 at 09:25 AM
care to explain?

Big difference in taxes paid, considering same line of business. That is why something is not right. Either not apple to apple comparison or ABS is just very good in business.
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Post by: tigkal on Jun 02, 2020 at 09:28 AM
Why would you say it's not right?  Remember taxes are based on taxable net income.  Even if a company is much bigger compared to another, if expenses are also much bigger then taxable net income is also lower and thus taxes are likewise lesser.
Yes.  x3 of taxable net income between same line of business(Channel 2 and 7) is not right. Either ABS income is for conglomerate or they are just good in business if that is the case.
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 02, 2020 at 09:36 AM
Just compare the talents in contract they have that maybe answer your question :)
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Jun 02, 2020 at 09:41 AM
Sala sa init, sala sa lamig.  Pag malaki ang binayaran, something is wrong, pag mas maliit ang binayaran, something is wrong pa rin.  Kailangan talaga pareho lang?   Ang galing ng logic! 
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 02, 2020 at 10:53 AM
Yes.  x3 of taxable net income between same line of business(Channel 2 and 7) is not right. Either ABS income is for conglomerate or they are just good in business if that is the case.

What do you mean?  ABS-CBN earning more is not hard to accept.  It means they earn more revenues . I thought you meant ABS-CBN should pay more as accused by Marcoleta.  But if your assertion is ABS-CBN should be paying as much as GMA, what is your basis?

Like I said it's not hard to fathom ABS-CBN generates more revenues as they not only have the TV station to earn from. There's also Skycable, TFC, Star Cinema, etc.  I'm not sure GMA gets revenues from other sources aside from the tv station.
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Post by: drhiredgun on Jun 02, 2020 at 11:36 AM
Sala sa init, sala sa lamig.  Pag malaki ang binayaran, something is wrong, pag mas maliit ang binayaran, something is wrong pa rin.  Kailangan talaga pareho lang?   Ang galing ng logic!

Hwag na makipagtalo sa kaniya...siya ang pinaka-mayaman dito. Kung ang iba may sariling mansiyon o kaya hacienda....siya.....may sariling mundo.
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 02, 2020 at 11:40 AM
Hwag na makipagtalo sa kaniya...siya ang pinaka-mayaman dito. Kung ang iba may sariling mansiyon o kaya hacienda....siya.....may sariling mundo.
governed by the best 'prisidint' in the universe..
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Post by: tony on Jun 02, 2020 at 12:19 PM
A bankrupt ideology will always be indefensible, such is the fate of tigkal....

buti yung iba tumigil na.....pero sya sige parin..
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Post by: tigkal on Jun 02, 2020 at 02:13 PM
A bankrupt ideology will always be indefensible, such is the fate of tigkal....

buti yung iba tumigil na.....pero sya sige parin..
We are entitled to our own opinion. But there is no monopoly of truth. Pag ganun sweeping and general statements without any details, that is just blowing horns. Lot of noise but makes no sense. Point by point ang dapat, hindi general statements.
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Post by: tigkal on Jun 02, 2020 at 02:16 PM

eto yung pinopoint out ko. pero according naman daw sa rappler yung BIR na mismo nagsabi walang nilabag na batas ang ABiasCBN pagdating sa payment ng taxes.
According to Rappler, sabi ng BIR. Wala naman sadya nilabag, kasi nagkaroon ng tax settlement. And pag may tax settlement, wala ka na nilabag na batas. Ganun ang spin. Ang sinabi kasi may tax settlement. So ang dapat sabihin nila na walang tax settlement, not walang nilabag na batas. Playing of words naman yan.

Pag may settlement, so may claim ang government na hindi tama ang binayaran na buwis. Pero nag come to terms, so in effect walang nilabag in the end. Pero need pa claim ng government bago nagbayad.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 02, 2020 at 02:33 PM
According to Rappler, sabi ng BIR. Wala naman sadya nilabag, kasi nagkaroon ng tax settlement. And pag may tax settlement, wala ka na nilabag na batas. Ganun ang spin. Ang sinabi kasi may tax settlement. So ang dapat sabihin nila na walang tax settlement, not walang nilabag na batas. Playing of words naman yan.

Pag may settlement, so may claim ang government na hindi tama ang binayaran na buwis. Pero nag come to terms, so in effect walang nilabag in the end. Pero need pa claim ng government bago nagbayad.

Naguluhan ka na between the regular tax payment and settlement of tax deficiency. Yun settlement is only on tax deficiency. Meaning regular na magbagbayad ng taxes ang ABS-CBN.  For taxable year 2019, kulang ang binayad ng ABS-CBN na taxes.  Yun settlement is yun kulang lang per BIR assessment.  It doesn't mean walang tax binayad at "need pa claim ng government bago nagbayad."
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Post by: tony on Jun 02, 2020 at 07:28 PM
We are entitled to our own opinion. But there is no monopoly of truth. Pag ganun sweeping and general statements without any details, that is just blowing horns. Lot of noise but makes no sense. Point by point ang dapat, hindi general statements.

the truth is the truth....wrong is wrong.....and right is right...
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 02, 2020 at 10:21 PM
tuloy na shooting ng ang probinsyano

bka gusto mag guest ni solgen


in fairness impressed ako kapamilya forever anthem

at k bawal lumabas

cancelled na ulit according sa kapitbahay namin.. pumayag na ang mayor sa lugar ng pagshootingan pero hinarang ng DILG daw.. namomroblema ngayon ang location manager nila kung saan gagawin kasi nakapag announce na sila na babalika na probinsyano. haha
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 02, 2020 at 10:25 PM
bukas invited si lopez sa hearing para ma interview. abangan natin result..
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 02, 2020 at 11:14 PM
cancelled na ulit according sa kapitbahay namin.. pumayag na ang mayor sa lugar ng pagshootingan pero hinarang ng DILG daw.. namomroblema ngayon ang location manager nila kung saan gagawin kasi nakapag announce na sila na babalika na probinsyano. haha
may mali kasi.. dapat dine sa probinsya mag-shooting hindi sa syudad..  ::)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 03, 2020 at 12:58 PM
Again another government agency this time the Department of Justice (DOJ) aside from the BIR, DOLE, SEC and NTC under oath testified that Gabby Lopez is a natural born citizen thereby refuting Marcoleta's accusation.

DOJ says ABS-CBN’s Gabby Lopez is a Filipino citizen (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1285500/doj-says-abs-cbns-gabby-lopez-is-a-filipino-citizen)

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Justice Undersecretary Emmeline Aglipay-Villar said during the hearing that the granting of confirmation of citizenship does not mean it “grants or perfects” citizenship.

‘“Sa pagbigay ng kumpirmasyon ng DOJ sa citizenship ni Mr. Gabby Lopez, hindi po ito pamamaraan ng pag-grant or pag-perfect ng citizenship, dahil po siya ay mayroong magulang na both father and mother na Filipino citizen kaya sa kanyang pagkapanganak siya ay isang Filipino citizen,” she said.
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Post by: tony on Jun 03, 2020 at 06:30 PM
yari ang QW ni bukbok.....
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 03, 2020 at 10:03 PM
langya highlighted na naman ky marcoleta ang dual citizenship ni Gabby Lopez napag alaman pala na si marcoleta din ang author ng bill na nag grant na makapag franchise ang mga dual citizen dito sa pinas! langya bumalik sa kanya tirada nya. dapat sa ibang anggulo nalang sila nag focus hindi na sa citizenship. basic naman na both parents ang filipino.

edit: upon reading online hindi pala franchise. kundi sa mga tumatakbong politiko ang sinulat ni marco.
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Post by: Bravesfan on Jun 03, 2020 at 11:10 PM
There is no point discussing the merits and legalities being raised because those are just fronts to what DU30 wants. He said it many times before he will see to it that the franchise will not be renewed. It is a political issue right from the start and not because ABS violated any law or terms of the previous franchise. Marcoleta even dragged Lopez into the discussion wherein if he really wanted to validate the citizenship he should have invited experts from DOJ and DFA because they are the ones who can say whether Lopez is a Filipino or not. Did he really expect Lopez to say he renounced his Filipino citizenship??? Bobo lang ang sumasakay pa rin sa usapin na to.
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 05:22 AM
nakita na natin ang chinks in his armor ni digong burat, sa military lang hindi sya umubra sa pagbasura ng VFA.....so who is afraid of him now?

sa kabila ng mgalaking pera na ipinangtapal nya sa military, hindi parin sya makapagdeklara ng revolutionary government...
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 05:24 AM
There is no point discussing the merits and legalities being raised because those are just fronts to what DU30 wants. He said it many times before he will see to it that the franchise will not be renewed. It is a political issue right from the start and not because ABS violated any law or terms of the previous franchise. Marcoleta even dragged Lopez into the discussion wherein if he really wanted to validate the citizenship he should have invited experts from DOJ and DFA because they are the ones who can say whether Lopez is a Filipino or not. Did he really expect Lopez to say he renounced his Filipino citizenship??? Bobo lang ang sumasakay pa rin sa usapin na to.

no matter how marcoleta and his allies spin it, they can never erase the fact that Lopez was born of Filipino parents and under the 1935 constitution is a filipino by blood....
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 04, 2020 at 06:56 AM
dribol dribol pa more
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 07:34 AM
eto pa isa....nagtanong si rep. remulla, ang dual citizenship ba ibig sabihin dalawa? say what....wtf...

o baka naman ibig nyang palabasin more than one.... >:D
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 08:13 AM
laki sa layaw, jeprox....

(https://scontent.fmnl17-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/101692959_126745292364305_8805667736966397952_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=ul51hONWL5QAX9COKIN&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl17-2.fna&oh=0f458e6d007a7bdd425105c84a61b7e9&oe=5EFE1EEC)
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 08:23 AM
eh sa iyo bukbok, sino nag utos? at sino me sabi sa iyong buntisin mo ang secretary mo?


(https://scontent.fmnl17-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/100834080_126022372436597_6560619912518172672_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=KniYZtnzPJkAX8hc0P1&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl17-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=c20f021271c6f8e0b70cb40e29123580&oe=5EFE7360)
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Post by: ALICE GO on Jun 04, 2020 at 02:34 PM
ANG putengang Gaby Lopez pinagbabayaran na yung mga congressmen na perpetual dynasties at mga sumasamba sa kanilang bituka, kasama rito yung Surigao congressman, yung biglang sumabat na babae na partylist rep, at ang mga personalities na katulad noong artista na antagal-antagal nang nakaupo sa Batangas (na kailanman ay di alam ang tama at mali, at medyo suspicious ang gender-orientation ng anak na pinalalamon din ni Lopez). Hayag na hayag ang kinikilingan ng kumag na rep ng Camarines Sur, yung LRay, na kaaway mismong ama dahil pareho silang mga sakim sa power sa kanilang malas na districts. Umaper din yung Loren Legarda na dating asawa ng nakapatay ng driver na si Tony Leviste, at girlfriend ni President Gusmao ng East Timor, at mandarambong ng PDAF pero di nakulong. Umaandar at pinakikilos ang pera rito, kaya nga yung logo nila umaaper na, kasi their bribed stalwarts are already "in the pocket." Kung bumuto ka sa Amerika noong 2016 ang kahulugan lang noon talagang US citizen ka. Bakit lolokohin mo pa kaming mga ignorante, kahit naman ganito kami, alam naman namin na 1 + 1 = 2, its immutable.

Ang totoo niyan nakalusot si Lopez sa lahat na flagrant personal at corporate violations niya for 36 years dahil sinakyan siya ng lahat na government agencies and watchdogs concerned. Lahat sila they turned a blind eye, most likely in exchange of a largesse, a beautiful woman from the ABS starlet harem, or a generous airwave publicity. Lahat sila ibinigay lahat ng nais ni Lopez, they EXEMPTED him from all double-dealings and chicanery.

Kung kumakampi ka sa taong ito and the business he owns, anong uri ng unggoy ka?
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 04, 2020 at 04:17 PM
ANG putengang Gaby Lopez pinagbabayaran na yung mga congressmen na perpetual dynasties at mga sumasamba sa kanilang bituka, kasama rito yung Surigao congressman, yung biglang sumabat na babae na partylist rep, at ang mga personalities na katulad noong artista na antagal-antagal nang nakaupo sa Batangas (na kailanman ay di alam ang tama at mali, at medyo suspicious ang gender-orientation ng anak na pinalalamon din ni Lopez). Hayag na hayag ang kinikilingan ng kumag na rep ng Camarines Sur, yung LRay, na kaaway mismong ama dahil pareho silang mga sakim sa power sa kanilang malas na districts. Umaper din yung Loren Legarda na dating asawa ng nakapatay ng driver na si Tony Leviste, at girlfriend ni President Gusmao ng East Timor, at mandarambong ng PDAF pero di nakulong. Umaandar at pinakikilos ang pera rito, kaya nga yung logo nila umaaper na, kasi their bribed stalwarts are already "in the pocket." Kung bumuto ka sa Amerika noong 2016 ang kahulugan lang noon talagang US citizen ka. Bakit lolokohin mo pa kaming mga ignorante, kahit naman ganito kami, alam naman namin na 1 + 1 = 2, its immutable.

Ang totoo niyan nakalusot si Lopez sa lahat na flagrant personal at corporate violations niya for 36 years dahil sinakyan siya ng lahat na government agencies and watchdogs concerned. Lahat sila they turned a blind eye, most likely in exchange of a largesse, a beautiful woman from the ABS starlet harem, or a generous airwave publicity. Lahat sila ibinigay lahat ng nais ni Lopez, they EXEMPTED him from all double-dealings and chicanery.

Kung kumakampi ka sa taong ito and the business he owns, anong uri ng unggoy ka?
i think there's nothing 'wrong' if she (vilma santos-recto) became a long term politician of different position as long as she did not violate any laws & having a son who's gender was questionble.. while she was a mayor of lipa for three terms, she continue her studies at U.P. Diliman & graduated a Masteral Decree.. it's also wrong to say that he (luis manzano) ay pinalalamon ng Lopez samantalang he has a contract, a job as an entertainer/ artist na pinaghihirapan kinikita nya sa trabaho para hindi palamunin ng libre ng may ari ng network..


i agree that legarda was a slut politician..  ::)
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Post by: Zhimiro on Jun 04, 2020 at 04:32 PM
Nothing wrong for her to adapt being a politician in a slow and surely way, maybe she does'nt want to gain enemies and critics along the way and weights things more considerably. Her son is not a politician, if I may add.... cheers!
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Post by: tony on Jun 04, 2020 at 04:47 PM
i do not share your dim view of the Lopezes, they were victims of martila law, meralco, abs cbn wasa confiscated by the marcos regime, no compensation were paid....laway lang....
in fact marcos confiscated a lot of other business, laway lang talaga.....
so is it any wonder then that in 1987, the Lopezes should be reimbursed?

ANG putengang Gaby Lopez pinagbabayaran na yung mga congressmen na perpetual dynasties at mga sumasamba sa kanilang bituka, kasama rito yung Surigao congressman, yung biglang sumabat na babae na partylist rep, at ang mga personalities na katulad noong artista na antagal-antagal nang nakaupo sa Batangas (na kailanman ay di alam ang tama at mali, at medyo suspicious ang gender-orientation ng anak na pinalalamon din ni Lopez). Hayag na hayag ang kinikilingan ng kumag na rep ng Camarines Sur, yung LRay, na kaaway mismong ama dahil pareho silang mga sakim sa power sa kanilang malas na districts. Umaper din yung Loren Legarda na dating asawa ng nakapatay ng driver na si Tony Leviste, at girlfriend ni President Gusmao ng East Timor, at mandarambong ng PDAF pero di nakulong. Umaandar at pinakikilos ang pera rito, kaya nga yung logo nila umaaper na, kasi their bribed stalwarts are already "in the pocket." Kung bumuto ka sa Amerika noong 2016 ang kahulugan lang noon talagang US citizen ka. Bakit lolokohin mo pa kaming mga ignorante, kahit naman ganito kami, alam naman namin na 1 + 1 = 2, its immutable.

Ang totoo niyan nakalusot si Lopez sa lahat na flagrant personal at corporate violations niya for 36 years dahil sinakyan siya ng lahat na government agencies and watchdogs concerned. Lahat sila they turned a blind eye, most likely in exchange of a largesse, a beautiful woman from the ABS starlet harem, or a generous airwave publicity. Lahat sila ibinigay lahat ng nais ni Lopez, they EXEMPTED him from all double-dealings and chicanery.

Kung kumakampi ka sa taong ito and the business he owns, anong uri ng unggoy ka?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:34 PM
Si markoleta ang nag eexplain ngayon. Nabaligtad ata.
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Post by: NongP on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:41 PM
Si markoleta ang nag eexplain ngayon. Nabaligtad ata.
Ogag itong si markoleta Panatang Makabayan talaga! ako nga nde ko na kabisado si Lopez pa na 67 yrs old na.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:45 PM
Defensor even raised as an issue, Lopez not undergoing ROTC.   He asked why?  Is it because he was not a Filipino but an American citizen?   ;D

Defensor should know that the highest official of the land also skipped ROTC.  So is Duterte an American citizen and is therefore not qualified to be the country's president?   ;D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:48 PM
Ogag itong si markoleta Panatang Makabayan talaga! ako nga nde ko na kabisado si Lopez pa na 67 yrs old na.

Bwahahaha!  Ako rin hindi ko na memorize.  Na realize ko bigla rin nung binanggit ni Marcoleta. 
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:54 PM
Ogag itong si markoleta Panatang Makabayan talaga! ako nga nde ko na kabisado si Lopez pa na 67 yrs old na.

He also authored bills granting franchises totalling more than 50 years according to public documents. Pati bill daw allowing dual citizens to run for public office.
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 08, 2020 at 06:59 PM
Defensor even raised as an issue, Lopez not undergoing ROTC.   He asked why?  Is it because he was not a Filipino but an American citizen?   ;D

Defensor should know that the highest official of the land also skipped ROTC.  So is Duterte an American citizen and is therefore not qualified to be the country's president?   ;D
1 page hirap magbasa.. sabay mura.. "lintek na npa yan"
style bulok..
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Post by: tony on Jun 08, 2020 at 08:36 PM
Defensor even raised as an issue, Lopez not undergoing ROTC.   He asked why?  Is it because he was not a Filipino but an American citizen?   ;D

Defensor should know that the highest official of the land also skipped ROTC.  So is Duterte an American citizen and is therefore not qualified to be the country's president?   ;D

duterte got a doctor's certificate, feigning TB so he did not have to go to four semesters of ROTC ...binayran ng daddy nya na isang cabinet minister yung doctor....
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Post by: tony on Jun 08, 2020 at 08:39 PM
He also authored bills granting franchises totalling more than 50 years according to public documents. Pati bill daw allowing dual citizens to run for public office.

the ABS CBN reporter atty. mike navallo was prevented by management to arrange a presscon for Marcoleta citing that it was not a reporter's job to do, Macoleta's staff should have taken care of that....

i seems that Marcoleta really authored bills on franchising, the Congregational records show as a matter of public record...
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 20, 2020 at 07:25 AM
di daryl ong pala tinanggal sa ABS kasi nag voice out ng saloobin. haha. freedom of speech ipinaglalaban nila pero bakit ganun?
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 20, 2020 at 08:09 AM
di daryl ong pala tinanggal sa ABS kasi nag voice out ng saloobin. haha. freedom of speech ipinaglalaban nila pero bakit ganun?

Freedom of expression or speech... pwede ko bang murahin sarili long tatay na nagpalaki sa akin? Pwede... pero siguradong mapapalayas ako sa bahay :) :)

Gusto ko rin tanungin ang company ko bakit di ako pinapayagan magsuot ng damit na may logo ng rival company.

Gusto ko may freedom of speech pero di ko pinapayagang murahin ako ng sarili kong anak. :)

Kahit naman siguro ako... kung ang sarili kong employee eh sinisiraan ang name ng company ko or making comments without consult8ng me and putting my company in disadvantage aba siguradong tanggal yan. Lalo na kung nakalagay specifically sa contract nila yan. :) :)
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 20, 2020 at 08:27 AM
di daryl ong pala tinanggal sa ABS kasi nag voice out ng saloobin. haha. freedom of speech ipinaglalaban nila pero bakit ganun?

Freedom of speech ba yun spreading of false information or aka fake news?
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Post by: stevesonk on Jun 20, 2020 at 09:22 AM
while expressing freedom of speech & freedom of the press, the media personnel must not forget they are accountabie to every actions they make..
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Post by: tony on Jun 20, 2020 at 09:31 AM
while expressing freedom of speech & freedom of the press, the media personnel must not forget they are accountabie to every actions they make..

our libel laws are protection against erring journalists...
Cory sued Luis Beltran and won...
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Post by: newwaveboy on Jun 20, 2020 at 02:01 PM
Naalala ko pa si Cory showing off her bed, which was 'part' of her libel case against Ka Louie .............. added to my belief that Cory wasn't as smart/competent as she appears to be.
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Post by: tony on Jun 20, 2020 at 03:37 PM
Naalala ko pa si Cory showing off her bed, which was 'part' of her libel case against Ka Louie .............. added to my belief that Cory wasn't as smart/competent as she appears to be.

Cory has one mission, to chase out the dictator and restore democratic institutions, and in that regard, she made good....

Cory had more power than marcos ever had, she had absolute power and can order the killing of the marcoses and that would have been legal...but the Christian in her prevented all of that and instead banished the marcoses to hawaii...

when Cory did not repudiate the behest loans of marcos, i think that was not smart..
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 20, 2020 at 04:58 PM
Mukhang hindi malinaw sa iba ang ibig sabihin ng free speech. Pero parang sure na sure sila ano?
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jun 20, 2020 at 05:06 PM
Cory has one mission, to chase out the dictator and restore democratic institutions, and in that regard, she made good....

Cory had more power than marcos ever had, she had absolute power and can order the killing of the marcoses and that would have been legal...but the Christian in her prevented all of that and instead banished the marcoses to hawaii...

when Cory did not repudiate the behest loans of marcos, i think that was not smart..

magagalit si uncle sam pag di tayo bayad utang...
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Post by: wheelee on Jun 21, 2020 at 12:06 AM
not sure about how things are running pero may nahagip ako sa news that the franchise or the frequency can't be leased for over 50 years, if that's the case why is gma celebrating it's 70th year on air?  ::)   
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 21, 2020 at 12:17 AM
not sure about how things are running pero may nahagip ako sa news that the franchise or the frequency can't be leased for over 50 years, if that's the case why is gma celebrating it's 70th year on air?  ::)

ang sabi ni tangang marcoleta pinapayagan naman mag extend basta walang nilabag na batas. matindi paniniwala nya na hindi dapat i grant ang abs kasi marami foul.
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Post by: Columbia on Jun 21, 2020 at 06:08 AM
not sure about how things are running pero may nahagip ako sa news that the franchise or the frequency can't be leased for over 50 years, if that's the case why is gma celebrating it's 70th year on air?  ::)
afaik, franchise that cannot be extended pertains to franchises in water and electric utilities.. walang rival dapat sa area of coverage for 50 years para hindi ma sayang ang investment...

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Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 21, 2020 at 08:21 AM
The DOJ itself under Guevarra said the 50 year rule is for ndividual franchises and can be renewed endlessly.  Not the duration wherein an entity can hold on to a franchise.

Marcoleta grasping at straws!   ;D
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jun 21, 2020 at 08:35 AM
better wait for the next president.....baka more favorable...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jun 23, 2020 at 03:53 PM
Oh kita mo husay talaga ng Supreme Court natin.

SC dismisses quo warranto case vs. ABS-CBN (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1296108/sc-dismisses-quo-warranto-case-vs-abs-cbn)
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“I was able to confirm with Chief Justice [Diosdado] Peralta that the Supreme Court dismissed today during their en banc meeting the quo warranto petition filed by the Solicitor General against ABS-CBN Corporation on the ground of mootness,” Hosaka said.

By dragging their feet, the SC simply let the case die a natural death.  More importantly they avoided insulting, SolGen Calida, Congress and most importantly Master Digong without much effort!

They failed however to settle the issue if the quo warranto is a valid case to revoke a franchise and if the Judiciary has the power to do the same.
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Post by: t-bone on Jun 23, 2020 at 06:14 PM


Cory did not repudiate the behest loans of marcos, i think that was not smart..

Tama yung ginawa ni Cory.

Having a record of Sovereign Default is bad for any country.  Buti nga nakalusot tayo...

Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jun 23, 2020 at 07:28 PM
Oh kita mo husay talaga ng Supreme Court natin.

SC dismisses quo warranto case vs. ABS-CBN (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1296108/sc-dismisses-quo-warranto-case-vs-abs-cbn)
By dragging their feet, the SC simply let the case die a natural death.  More importantly they avoided insulting, SolGen Calida, Congress and most importantly Master Digong without much effort!

They failed however to settle the issue if the quo warranto is a valid case to revoke a franchise and if the Judiciary has the power to do the same.

well at least something good in a long while...

Quo warranto is a Calida invention, subsequent governments must pass a law to  clarify this...
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Post by: tony on Jun 23, 2020 at 07:29 PM
Tama yung ginawa ni Cory.

Having a record of Sovereign Default is bad for any country.  Buti nga nakalusot tayo...



i know the story behind this from Teddy Locsin...
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 23, 2020 at 07:39 PM
Pwede na bang palitan ang thread topic title? Hehe!
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Post by: tony on Jun 23, 2020 at 07:55 PM

(https://scontent.fmnl17-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105484916_10158496147910168_9079660741765409346_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=KRGp7ANAx28AX8qw2Cm&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl17-2.fna&oh=1cfce00f42e012654057f20de81bb865&oe=5F195176)
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 30, 2020 at 06:36 PM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/06/30/20/ntc-orders-abs-cbn-to-stop-tvplus-in-metro-manila-sky-direct
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 01, 2020 at 10:32 PM
may magandang epekto din ang pagka wala ng ABS CBN.. yung anak ko kanina buryong na buryong wala ng yey. gumawa nalang ng gawaing bahay.. ayos!
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Post by: tony on Jul 02, 2020 at 06:31 AM
again, maybe it is better to wait till the next president comes along, yang mga naapahirap ngayon babaliming angmga yan, sureball yan..
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 02, 2020 at 10:16 PM
again, maybe it is better to wait till the next president comes along, yang mga naapahirap ngayon babaliming angmga yan, sureball yan..

paano pag in favor parin sa duterte powers? wala ng pag asa bumalik ang ABS? o sila din ang kailangan bumalimbing?
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Post by: Wiggum on Jul 10, 2020 at 03:41 PM
House Committee denies ABS-CBN a new franchise (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/10/20/house-committee-denies-abs-cbn-a-new-franchise)

MANILA—Congressmen on Friday voted to reject a new broadcast franchise for ABS-CBN Corp., permanently shutting down a major part of the country’s largest media network, in what is seen as part of a worsening crackdown on press freedom under President Rodrigo Duterte.

Voting 70 to 11, the Committee on Legislative Franchises dashed ABS-CBN's hopes to resume operations under a new franchise, months after the president repeatedly threatened to pull the plug on the network over complaints of partisanship in the 2016 presidential elections.

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ABS-CBN and its employees never had a chance. Asking these committee members to vote according to their conscience was futile.
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Post by: NongP on Jul 10, 2020 at 03:46 PM
House Committee denies ABS-CBN a new franchise (https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/10/20/house-committee-denies-abs-cbn-a-new-franchise)

MANILA—Congressmen on Friday voted to reject a new broadcast franchise for ABS-CBN Corp., permanently shutting down a major part of the country’s largest media network, in what is seen as part of a worsening crackdown on press freedom under President Rodrigo Duterte.

Voting 70 to 11, the Committee on Legislative Franchises dashed ABS-CBN's hopes to resume operations under a new franchise, months after the president repeatedly threatened to pull the plug on the network over complaints of partisanship in the 2016 presidential elections.

===

ABS-CBN and its employees never had a chance. Asking these committee members to vote according to their conscience was futile.

tama ka dyan kasi karamihan sa mga tongressman natin walang conscience.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Wiggum on Jul 10, 2020 at 04:06 PM
Nagulat ako sa vote disparity. 70-11? Hindi man lang pinaabot sa plenary.

EDIT: The 11 congressmen who voted "NO" to the denial of ABS-CBN's franchise:

1. Sol Aragones
2. Christopher de Venecia
3. Carlos Zarate
4. Gab Bordado
5. Vilma Santos
6. Lianda Bolilia
7. Ping Tejada
8. Benny Abante
9. Stella Quimbo
10. Mujiv Hataman
11. Edward Maceda
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Post by: oznola on Jul 10, 2020 at 04:49 PM
tama ka dyan kasi karamihan sa mga tongressman natin walang conscience.

Wala ng hiya hiya!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: edwn1220 on Jul 10, 2020 at 05:35 PM
May mga natitira pa rin naman palang may delicadeza sa gobyerno

PCW commissioner on media resigns over ABS-CBN shutdown (https://www.rappler.com/nation/266201-pcw-commissioner-media-resigns-over-abs-cbn-shutdown)

Grabe talaga:
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An insider told Rappler that Bucoy resisted attempts within the PCW to have the PCW defend Duterte against criticism of his rape jokes.
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Post by: pekspert on Jul 10, 2020 at 05:59 PM
Tuwang tuwa si Atom Araullo :)

I have mixed reactions to this decision. Im happy that abscbn is no more but feel sad for its talented people. Im glad that the big biased bosses are gone. Hopefully a big deep-pocket company will apply to take in and fill the vacated slot.
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:01 PM
Nagulat ako sa vote disparity. 70-11? Hindi man lang pinaabot sa plenary.

EDIT: The 11 congressmen who voted "NO" to the denial of ABS-CBN's franchise:

1. Sol Aragones
2. Christopher de Venecia
3. Carlos Zarate
4. Gab Bordado
5. Vilma Santos
6. Lianda Bolilia
7. Ping Tejada
8. Benny Abante
9. Stella Quimbo
10. Mujiv Hataman
11. Edward Maceda
buti na lang sina rep. bolilia & rep. vilma ng batangas may sariling paninindigan.. proud of them..
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Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:08 PM
Feel bad for the employees.. Hirap pa naman ngaun.. Although we seldom watch channel 2 nowadays, kalungkot parin..
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Post by: flashDB on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:17 PM
they can operate still without franchise, diba?
full online nalang, yun lang mas maging smaller reach nila because of that...

im ok pala for them to have franchise...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: pekspert on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:22 PM
^they can still operate even on cable. Basta wag lang FTA (free to air).
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Post by: oweidah on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:29 PM
bye
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 10, 2020 at 06:51 PM
Very outspoken si Piolo Pascual sa rally ng ABS-CBN.  I thought he was a supporter?  He was part of the group scouting for locations concerning Duterte's next SONA.
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Post by: tony on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:13 PM
they can operate still without franchise, diba?
full online nalang, yun lang mas maging smaller reach nila because of that...

im ok pala for them to have franchise...

ala rappler, wala silang radio transmitters...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:14 PM
^they can still operate even on cable. Basta wag lang FTA (free to air).

ms Ging Reyes, said, the news department will carry on...kailangan lang maghigpit ng sinturon..

sana tanggalin si kabayan noli, ted failon ang anothony taberna at yung mutya ng masa...
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:17 PM
Tuwang tuwa si Atom Araullo :)

I have mixed reactions to this decision. Im happy that abscbn is no more but feel sad for its talented people. Im glad that the big biased bosses are gone. Hopefully a big deep-pocket company will apply to take in and fill the vacated slot.

sayang si carlo katigbak.. mukhang inaayos na nya ang pagkakamali ng mga biased bosses ng ABS... hindi sya nabigyan ng pagkakataon to correct their mistakes..
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:21 PM
ang talagang talo dito ay ordinaryong mamamayan nasa liblib na lugar at umaasa lang sa free to air & radio frequecies, apektado kabuhayan tulad ng mga mangingisda na umaasa din sa ulat kung ano lagay ng panahon, mga seniors na tanging kasiyahan ay makinig sa radyo o manuod ng paborito nilang programa o balita.. samantalang ung 70 bumotong tongressmen ay takot at naduwag suwayin ang utos ng inutil na matanda dahil mawawalan o mababawasan pondo sa projects nila kapag sumuway..
obvious na majority of lower house ay epalitikong dapat mapalitan sa sunod na election..
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Post by: oznola on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:27 PM
Taena alisin na nila yung mga gaya ng vice ganda!
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:29 PM
ang talagang talo dito ay ordinaryong mamamayan nasa liblib na lugar at umaasa lang sa free to air & radio frequecies, apektado kabuhayan tulad ng mga mangingisda na umaasa din sa ulat kung ano lagay ng panahon, mga seniors na tanging kasiyahan ay makinig sa radyo o manuod ng paborito nilang programa o balita.. samantalang ung 70 bumotong tongressmen ay takot at naduwag suwayin ang utos ng inutil na matanda dahil mawawalan o mababawasan pondo sa projects nila kapag sumuway..
obvious na majority of lower house ay epalitikong dapat mapalitan sa sunod na election..

oy.. sabi ni boying bakit daw tongressman tawag sa kanila ng ABS... hehehe nag tanong pa ang tanga..

baka may natanggap na yung 70 na tongressmen..
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Post by: raptor on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:35 PM
Taena alisin na nila yung mga gaya ng vice ganda!

di na dapat pinalalabas sa tv yan
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 10, 2020 at 07:40 PM
oy.. sabi ni boying bakit daw tongressman tawag sa kanila ng ABS... hehehe nag tanong pa ang tanga..

baka may natanggap na yung 70 na tongressmen..
si remulla ba..? nagtaka pa sya at sa tagal na nila mag-anak sa politika, nagpapa feeling-innocent sa mga ganun term..
hindi bagay pa-innocent effect sa mukha nya..  ;D
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Post by: frequenzy on Jul 10, 2020 at 08:20 PM
super panalo dito si GMA, basically monopoly na ngayon pagdating sa TV Advertisement. pwede nang maging greedy si GMA pagdating sa rates lalo na sa election period.
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Post by: noob on Jul 10, 2020 at 08:26 PM
Isa pang talo dito sa pagsara ng abs-cbn ay mga manonood ng gma news, aba e abot pitong minuto’t kalahati ang haba ng commercial sa bawat news segment, alam nila kasing halos sa kanila natuon kapag news time.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 10, 2020 at 08:36 PM
super panalo dito si GMA, basically monopoly na ngayon pagdating sa TV Advertisement. pwede nang maging greedy si GMA pagdating sa rates lalo na sa election period.

Funny you should mention that.  According to the Constitution, mass media cannot be a monopoly.  So the government will be approving a new mass media soon......by Dennis Uy!

Section 11. (1) The ownership and management of mass media shall be limited to citizens of the Philippines, or to corporations, cooperatives or associations, wholly-owned and managed by such citizens.

The Congress shall regulate or prohibit monopolies in commercial mass media when the public interest so requires. No combinations in restraint of trade or unfair competition therein shall be allowed.
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Post by: frequenzy on Jul 10, 2020 at 08:42 PM
although may tv5, pero alam naman natin na walang market share yun.
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Post by: oweidah on Jul 10, 2020 at 08:59 PM
what now.my love?
is it over?
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 10, 2020 at 10:12 PM
what now.my love?
is it over?

wala na. tinigbak na. uuwi na daw kapitbahay ko sa tuesday. kanina daw na postponed agad shoot ng probinsyano. nagpost pa man din sya na magbabalik na si cardo.. magbabalik sa inidoro pala.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 10, 2020 at 10:13 PM
oy.. sabi ni boying bakit daw tongressman tawag sa kanila ng ABS... hehehe nag tanong pa ang tanga..

baka may natanggap na yung 70 na tongressmen..

ibig sabihin pag nag NO pala sa franchise possible nabayaran??
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Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 10, 2020 at 10:42 PM
ibig sabihin pag nag NO pala sa franchise possible nabayaran??
Nagtatanong ka ba talaga kung nabayaran yun mga bumoto kontra sa franchise? Di ba normal na yan sa mga tongressman natin? Ang lagay eh...
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 10, 2020 at 11:08 PM
wala na. tinigbak na. uuwi na daw kapitbahay ko sa tuesday. kanina daw na postponed agad shoot ng probinsyano. nagpost pa man din sya na magbabalik na si cardo.. magbabalik sa inidoro pala.
last taping nila dito samin sa brgy. plaridel, sa LPL.. mga 4 days ago.. dami nag-audition na extra, kahit wala bayad, basta daw re-rapin si yassi..  grabe taga samin, hindi na nahiya..   :'(
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 10, 2020 at 11:09 PM
Nagtatanong ka ba talaga kung nabayaran yun mga bumoto kontra sa franchise? Di ba normal na yan sa mga tongressman natin? Ang lagay eh...

oo nagtatanong ako.. so yung mga nag YES yun yung hindi nabayaran? or nabayaran din for sure ng ABS or kung sino mang handler?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 10, 2020 at 11:10 PM
last taping nila dito samin sa brgy. plaridel, sa LPL.. mga 4 days ago.. dami nag-audition na extra, kahit wala bayad, basta daw re-rapin si yassi..  grabe taga samin, hindi na nahiya..   :'(


hahaha. pucha langya ka brader. kahit taga cavite ako mag audition ako jan kahit libre. haha
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 10, 2020 at 11:15 PM

hahaha. pucha langya ka brader. kahit taga cavite ako mag audition ako jan kahit libre. haha
pards, hindi ko nagbibiro.. sa LPL sila nagshooting lahat.. (Leviste farm)
pano ko malilimutan un, eh 4 kong kainuman, iihi lang daw, (trike driver) aba 30 minuto nko nag-aantay, walang bumalik..! un pala may nag msg. na may audition na re-rapin si yassi nung gabi..  >:(
iniwan ako mag-isa..  >:(
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 11, 2020 at 01:02 AM
ohwell walang poreber kapamilya
lintik lang ang walang ganti
course of action? ibenta ? online battlefront ? tuloy ang laban?

paano yung manok nila sa 2022, galit mga kapamilya. paano susuyuin ?

masaya ito, return of da comeback ?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tigkal on Jul 11, 2020 at 04:28 AM
although may tv5, pero alam naman natin na walang market share yun.
Programming and content lang yan,hindi sa station. Kaya mga artista nag line up na sa tv 5 para mag apply. Baka hindi maka apply sa 7 kasi doon galing at sinulot ni dos.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 11, 2020 at 04:44 AM
Nagtatanong ka ba talaga kung nabayaran yun mga bumoto kontra sa franchise? Di ba normal na yan sa mga tongressman natin? Ang lagay eh...

me hugong na lobbying ni Pulong at ng INC....

me binanggit si Waldy Carbonel na hongkong based group na may offer sa kanya to the tune of 7 digits per month....

abangan sa sona tyak ne segment yan sa pangulo....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 11, 2020 at 04:46 AM
abs cbn has a loyal following, they will find a way to see the network by any other platforms...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 11, 2020 at 05:04 AM
kapamilya forever 👩‍👩‍👦
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 11, 2020 at 05:05 AM
totoo bang INC ang naglakad para mapatumba ang network na to? marami daw nilapitan si Lagman na cong para maipasa ang ABS pero lahat tumanggi kasi my utos ang INC sa kanila?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 11, 2020 at 06:15 AM
takot mawalan ng ppork barrel, 300million?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:45 AM
oo nagtatanong ako.. so yung mga nag YES yun yung hindi nabayaran? or nabayaran din for sure ng ABS or kung sino mang handler?
The committee did a trick at the last minute so the YES vote denies the franchise and NO vote is granting the franchise. Baka malito ka.

Another question, do you believe ABS is such a fool to offer bribes at the height of this deliberation? So naniniwala ka kay Erik Yap na meron nagbribe sa kanya ng 200M na emisaryo ng ABS?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:46 AM
totoo bang INC ang naglakad para mapatumba ang network na to? marami daw nilapitan si Lagman na cong para maipasa ang ABS pero lahat tumanggi kasi my utos ang INC sa kanila?
Lobbying is perfectly legal and happens all the time, nothing wrong with it. It is different from a bribe.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:47 AM
takot mawalan ng ppork barrel, 300million?

Ang lagay e...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:48 AM
^psy war yan, so that if you vote in favor of a franchise then you are suspected of having been bribed to the tune of 200M, turns out mas malaki ang sa pork barrel...300M
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:48 AM
everybody wants to rule the world ;)
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: pekspert on Jul 11, 2020 at 11:15 AM
since madaming covid sa QC, gawin na lang covid center yung ABS compound isama na din yun bigbrother house na katabi   :)
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Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 11, 2020 at 11:46 AM
^ Are you suggesting a Marcosian takeover of ABS facilities despite trillions of funds available to the govt? Hmmmm...
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Post by: oznola on Jul 11, 2020 at 11:48 AM
After watching again the clip when Quiboloy was answering to Vice Ganda's dare (to stop Ang Probinsyano as well) saying hindi lang daw yun, baka pati network ipa stop niya.

https://www.facebook.com/100031356846799/posts/284533042601922/?d=null&vh=i

can't help but wonder, did he know something about the plan already? Ang confident ng pagkaka sabi niya eh.
Knowing he is a supporter and probably has a huge influence sa presidente, malamang he had a hand in it as well.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:22 PM
After watching again the clip when Quiboloy was answering to Vice Ganda's dare (to stop Ang Probinsyano as well) saying hindi lang daw yun, baka pati network ipa stop niya.

https://www.facebook.com/100031356846799/posts/284533042601922/?d=null&vh=i

can't help but wonder, did he know something about the plan already? Ang confident ng pagkaka sabi niya eh.
Knowing he is a supporter and probably has a huge influence sa presidente, malamang he had a hand in it as well.

Tapos nung pagsara sa ABS isa si vice sa mga nag rally. Tawang tawa siguro si quibs..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 11, 2020 at 09:23 PM
The committee did a trick at the last minute so the YES vote denies the franchise and NO vote is granting the franchise. Baka malito ka.

Another question, do you believe ABS is such a fool to offer bribes at the height of this deliberation? So naniniwala ka kay Erik Yap na meron nagbribe sa kanya ng 200M na emisaryo ng ABS?

Ay hindi ko yan alam sir.. Naisip ko lang.. Own opinion lang sir.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: flashDB on Jul 12, 2020 at 07:15 AM
this is the best time for them in my opinion to transition to different digital platform. dyan naman tayo papunta.

if they execute this properly, which they can afford to make it proper... baka mag mga leader pa sila on all digital platform.

is there a television or media network that is all digital?

sometimes... in a way... may benefit din yun not updated law/legal natin..., again not always, sometimes...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 12, 2020 at 08:38 AM
in 1972, the dictator marcos confiscated channels 2 and 4, only channel 2 was returned to the Lopez'es.......

it is only fair that these two channels be returned to them...

government had no bussines running tv stations.....radio stations in the far flung area where only the communist NPA are present pwede pa...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 12, 2020 at 08:42 AM
this is the best time for them in my opinion to transition to different digital platform. dyan naman tayo papunta.

if they execute this properly, which they can afford to make it proper... baka mag mga leader pa sila on all digital platform.

is there a television or media network that is all digital?

sometimes... in a way... may benefit din yun not updated law/legal natin..., again not always, sometimes...

tama yan....the internet offered plenty of possibilities...the texting capital of the world has more cellphones than people i think....my sons and daughters including me have two cellphones each....

portable, quick, affordable, instantaneous, greater reach......even the NPA's in the mountains can watch....

we use a MY box to watch Kapamilaya, along with CNN, ABC, Fox, MsNBC and you tube....you can even cast to your big tv screens from your cellphones, yes times have changed....it will be harder to suppres the news nowadays than say during the martial law.....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: flashDB on Jul 12, 2020 at 09:38 AM
just to add... will gov't will close down ABS-CBN? No, i dont think so. they have other line of business under their corporation even without franchise - parang netflix / productions, online shows, other forms that doesn't require franchise.

my personal opinion. baka nga mas better pa wala sila franchise so they no longer have to kiss ass - in case they do, bribe - in case they do, and whatnot.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 12, 2020 at 09:47 AM
you are correct, not having a franchise, the government will have to be more inventive to silence them...

meanwhile, they yould start giving separation pays to kabayan noli, ted failon, taberna, baja, mutya ng masa, and others, there are a lot of talented news and public affairs personel waiting in the winds to take over...
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Post by: stevesonk on Jul 12, 2020 at 10:02 AM
sa delibertion ngyari sa kongreso, nadinig bawat panig, nakita ang mga epalitiko hawak sa leeg ni pduts, ang ibang sangay ng gobyerno na nagsabi wala nilabag na batas, kung merun man, bakit hindi busisiin ng kongreso ang bir..? kung kulang ba ga ang pagbabayad ng buwis..? nagmukha tuloy utak tungaw ung 70 bumoto againts franchise renewal ng abs sa takot na hindi mabigyan ng pondo ang projects nilang kukupitan..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:27 AM
Akala ko vote according to conscience. May "consequences" pala.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1306013/vilma-santos-recto-prepared-to-face-consequences-over-abs-cbn-franchise-vote
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Post by: NongP on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:30 AM
Akala ko vote according to conscience. May "consequences" pala.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1306013/vilma-santos-recto-prepared-to-face-consequences-over-abs-cbn-franchise-vote
tama naman yun naging boto according to conscience, nagkataon lang karamihan sa kanila wala na nun.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:31 AM
Akala ko vote according to conscience. May "consequences" pala.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1306013/vilma-santos-recto-prepared-to-face-consequences-over-abs-cbn-franchise-vote

Buti pa si Vilma Santos.  Si Ralph Recto medyo playing both sides.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 13, 2020 at 11:45 AM
Buti pa si Vilma Santos.  Si Ralph Recto medyo playing both sides.
kapag yan tumakbo president, nkow.. i will vote for her..

Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: pekspert on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:22 PM
Wala man lang delicadeza yang si Vilma Santos. Nagpapalabas siyang may conscience when everyone knows her son gets job/projects from abs. Kung maayos yan dapat nag-abstain siya from voting like loren legarda for conflict of interest.
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Post by: frequenzy on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:45 PM
kapag yan tumakbo president, nkow.. i will vote for her..


+1
Lalo na kung against Sarah Duterte lng.

Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:53 PM
pero ang kalaban walang delikadeze, nag name nga nga ng prize si Yap eh 200M daw offer ng kabila....so ano dapat ang pangtapat ng malakanyang?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 13, 2020 at 12:54 PM
kapag yan tumakbo president, nkow.. i will vote for her..



ako rin...huwag lang si Sarah Gahasa..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 15, 2020 at 03:44 AM
ang saya saya


DEFENSOR FAMILY . mike and daughter mikee?


kayo, mga kapuso kapatid kapamilya,,,,paano niyo hina-handle ang sitwasyon pag hindi magkasundo ang desisyon sa politika, shobiz religion etc.

its a family affair !
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 08:06 AM
Akala ko vote according to conscience. May "consequences" pala.

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1306013/vilma-santos-recto-prepared-to-face-consequences-over-abs-cbn-franchise-vote

she could loose her "deputy speaker" title... and the perks that went with it..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 08:07 AM
tama naman yun naging boto according to conscience, nagkataon lang karamihan sa kanila wala na nun.

sinabi mo pa....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 08:10 AM
Wala man lang delicadeza yang si Vilma Santos. Nagpapalabas siyang may conscience when everyone knows her son gets job/projects from abs. Kung maayos yan dapat nag-abstain siya from voting like loren legarda for conflict of interest.

eh sino ba doon ang meron? maraming government agencies pati na DOJ para maging resource persons, yun pala naging Kangaroo court....walang napatunayan sa hearing....sa huli sinabi ni boy dinuguan/krus markobeta, walang merito ang mga naging pahayag ng abs cbn, yung kanilang pananaw lamang ang syang masusunod, eh bakit nag hearing pa? 13 session days, malaking pera ang sinayang.....

hindi pa malaking kagaguhan yan....????????????????????
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 08:14 AM
malaki ang galit ni Mike Defensor sa mga Lopez, si Gina Lopez, ipinasara ang mining company nya due to violations...nagpapalakas yan kay haring burat baka sakaling mabalik sa kanya ang mining firm at mabuksan muli kung hindi pa nangyayari...me dahilan ang bawat kilos ngmga pulitikon koryano, magkano koryan?

saan ka naman nakakita na naging DENR sec ni GMA ay nakapagpundar na ng mining firm sa murang edad.......tinalo nya si ka Ernie Maceda, so young and so corrupt...

wala syang delikadeza....
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bogart.2006 on Jul 15, 2020 at 09:47 AM
Wala man lang delicadeza yang si Vilma Santos. Nagpapalabas siyang may conscience when everyone knows her son gets job/projects from abs. Kung maayos yan dapat nag-abstain siya from voting like loren legarda for conflict of interest.

if delicadeza ang sukatan, mas marami bang may bias on the other side of the fence who should have abstained.  mga obvious na may axe to grind.

if naniwala kayo na ung voting was fair and impartial...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 15, 2020 at 01:44 PM
Wala man lang delicadeza yang si Vilma Santos. Nagpapalabas siyang may conscience when everyone knows her son gets job/projects from abs. Kung maayos yan dapat nag-abstain siya from voting like loren legarda for conflict of interest.
she explained herself why she voted in favor of abs.. if your basis of delicadeza was her son working to the said network, it doesn't affect her work being a 6th lone-district representative, so therefor theres no violation to the law your citing a conflict of interest, her son's job was an entertainer personnel.. the clear violation of conflict of interest was an example of doh sec. duque, he was a high rank government official while his buildings were mere for lease that the govt. pays..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 02:03 PM
if delicadeza ang sukatan, mas marami bang may bias on the other side of the fence who should have abstained.  mga obvious na may axe to grind.

if naniwala kayo na ung voting was fair and impartial...

obvious naman eh..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: bumblebee on Jul 15, 2020 at 03:25 PM
Ano raw? May "grade" na ang pagtulong?

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1307149/palace-says-abs-cbn-virus-aid-drive-wanting-why-didnt-you-do-more-like-the-ayalas-mvp
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Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 15, 2020 at 03:28 PM
since madaming covid sa QC, gawin na lang covid center yung ABS compound isama na din yun bigbrother house na katabi   :)

Ayan matutupad na gusto mo. Meron na bill sa kongreso para gamitin ng gobyerno ang assets ng kumpanyang ipinasara nila. Masaya ka na?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 15, 2020 at 03:31 PM
Ano raw? May "grade" na ang pagtulong?

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1307149/palace-says-abs-cbn-virus-aid-drive-wanting-why-didnt-you-do-more-like-the-ayalas-mvp

Nagtatambling si spineless creature.. mga DDS hilong-hilo na
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 05:05 PM
Ayan matutupad na gusto mo. Meron na bill sa kongreso para gamitin ng gobyerno ang assets ng kumpanyang ipinasara nila. Masaya ka na?

i do not think they can actually do this, franchise lang ang nawala, hindi yung facilities at iba pang properties ng mga Lopez....

they can not take them away just like that...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 15, 2020 at 05:43 PM
i do not think they can actually do this, franchise lang ang nawala, hindi yung facilities at iba pang properties ng mga Lopez....

they can not take them away just like that...
but it really hurt lopezes on their stocks decreasing its value..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 15, 2020 at 05:45 PM
but it really hurt lopezes on their stocks decreasing its value..

in 1972 the Lopezes lost everything, ngayon pa ba sila matatakot?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 16, 2020 at 10:33 AM
https://www.thefinancialdistrict.com.ph/post/abs-cbn-and-the-dim-view-on-the-philippines
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 16, 2020 at 10:34 AM
yung radyo patrol sa you tube merong mga commercials, it seems advertisers are sticking to the network in whatever platforms they are in..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: jjjeronimo on Jul 17, 2020 at 09:19 AM
Hindi mapigilan ang Probinsyano, lol.

Busy na sigurado si Calida na nag-iisip kung paano pigilan ang pag-livestream ng ABS-CBN.  ::)

(https://scontent.fkul10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/109629364_10157681702978585_1636968726501379419_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=X_1e4gmVif8AX-47Qzx&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul10-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=eeeaafca9fed233a640a5a49382985db&oe=5F360C68)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jul 17, 2020 at 09:23 AM
May mga DDS (in denial syempre) akong kilala na galit sa ABS-CBN nung kalagitnaan ng hearings. Nung mawala TV Plus nila, mali daw na tinanggalan ng prangkisa ABS-CBN.

OT, galit din sila kay Duque, pero kay Duque lang LOL
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Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 17, 2020 at 10:22 AM
May mga DDS (in denial syempre) akong kilala na galit sa ABS-CBN nung kalagitnaan ng hearings. Nung mawala TV Plus nila, mali daw na tinanggalan ng prangkisa ABS-CBN.

OT, galit din sila kay Duque, pero kay Duque lang LOL

stoofid fkcs
yun amo nila may problema sa abs
parang kaibigan ko na badtrip kay bong revilla, bakit daw nakatakbo pa pero duterte parin
pinaliwanag ko yun unfolding paano nakalabas si revilla at napoles, di daw papayag si digong ng ganun LOL
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2020 at 10:33 AM
Hindi mapigilan ang Probinsyano, lol.

Busy na sigurado si Calida na nag-iisip kung paano pigilan ang pag-livestream ng ABS-CBN.  ::)

(https://scontent.fkul10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/109629364_10157681702978585_1636968726501379419_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=X_1e4gmVif8AX-47Qzx&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul10-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=eeeaafca9fed233a640a5a49382985db&oe=5F360C68)

ipasara nila ang youtube...
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Jul 17, 2020 at 10:38 AM
^Don't underestimate the evil mind of Calida
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2020 at 10:48 AM
yun lang..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 17, 2020 at 11:26 AM
kapamilya viewer ako

pero oligarchs mga lopez
minumura lagi ang meralco
kinuha ni marcos, binalik ni cory sa mga lopez ang meralco at abscbn
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 17, 2020 at 11:33 AM
kapamilya viewer ako

pero oligarchs mga lopez
minumura lagi ang meralco
kinuha ni marcos, binalik ni cory sa mga lopez ang meralco at abscbn

Being perceived oligarchs or not, it had nothing to do with ABS-CBN being shut down.  It had nothing to do with violating any law either.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: Bravesfan on Jul 17, 2020 at 11:42 AM
^Di ko maintindihan talaga yang oligarch argument na yan. Unang-una wala naman batas na nilabag at kung meron man bakit di kasuhan eh gayung kontrolado naman nya ang Judiciary. Pangalawa, kung galit sa oligarchs, bakit ang dami naman ibang oligarchs na nakapalibot sa kanya? Kapag mga Lopez na oligarch masama, kapag sina Villar, Razon, et al, wala kayo masabi.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 17, 2020 at 11:56 AM
Uy!  Uy!  Uy!   ;D

Solon tells Lopez family: Sell ABS-CBN if you love 11,000 workers (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1308084/solon-tells-lopez-family-sell-abs-cbn-if-you-love-11000-workers)

Quote
MANILA, Philippines — House Deputy Speaker Luis Raymund Villafuerte Jr. on Friday urged the Lopez family to just sell ABS-CBN if they really care for its over 11,000 employees, following the denial of its bid for a new 25-year franchise by the lower chamber’s legislative franchise committee.

In an interview with ABS-CBN News Channel, the Camarines Sur 2nd District representative said he will support the franchise renewal of the network under new management and ownership.
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Post by: jjjeronimo on Jul 17, 2020 at 12:03 PM
^Di ko maintindihan talaga yang oligarch argument na yan. Unang-una wala naman batas na nilabag at kung meron man bakit di kasuhan eh gayung kontrolado naman nya ang Judiciary. Pangalawa, kung galit sa oligarchs, bakit ang dami naman ibang oligarchs na nakapalibot sa kanya? Kapag mga Lopez na oligarch masama, kapag sina Villar, Razon, et al, wala kayo masabi.

Oldest excuse para makuha ang supporta ng masa.  No different from the mayaman vs mahirap na plotline ng mga teleserye. 

Ang totoo niyan, pinoprotektahan lang ang "invesment" nung sumuporta sa kanya nung eleksyon.

Uy!  Uy!  Uy!   ;D

Solon tells Lopez family: Sell ABS-CBN if you love 11,000 workers (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1308084/solon-tells-lopez-family-sell-abs-cbn-if-you-love-11000-workers)


Ayun oh!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 17, 2020 at 01:19 PM
Uy!  Uy!  Uy!   ;D

Solon tells Lopez family: Sell ABS-CBN if you love 11,000 workers (https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1308084/solon-tells-lopez-family-sell-abs-cbn-if-you-love-11000-workers)
lopez to solon : neck-neck mo !  :P
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 17, 2020 at 01:22 PM
Hindi mapigilan ang Probinsyano, lol.

Busy na sigurado si Calida na nag-iisip kung paano pigilan ang pag-livestream ng ABS-CBN.  ::)

(https://scontent.fkul10-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/109629364_10157681702978585_1636968726501379419_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=X_1e4gmVif8AX-47Qzx&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul10-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=eeeaafca9fed233a640a5a49382985db&oe=5F360C68)
dito samin last week sila nag shooting.. sa LPL at SUMMIT POINT Golf course
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oweidah on Jul 17, 2020 at 01:27 PM
weder weder lang yan

crony oligarchs
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jul 17, 2020 at 03:27 PM
Bawi bawi si Defensor....

Defensor denies personal vendetta vs. ABS-CBN, says Lopez kin did not shut down mining company (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/7/14/Mike-Defensor-ABS-CBN-franchise-Gina-Lopez-Pax-Libera-mining.html)
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Speaking to CNN Philippines, Defensor said the late Environment Secretary Gina Lopez, the sister of the network’s chairman emeritus Eugenio “Gabby” Lopez III, was not behind the closure of Pax Libera Mining, where he serves as chairman.

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The move came in the wake of an audit of all mining operations ordered by Environment Secretary Gina Lopez.

Among the companies issued MPSAs by the ARMM government are Dasussalam Mining Co., Al Tawi-Tawi Nickel Group, Singcara Mining and Development Corp., Pax Libera Mining Inc., Chan C. Mining and Hikanjay Mining Inc. The companies operate in Tawi-Tawi province.
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2020 at 04:36 PM
Being perceived oligarchs or not, it had nothing to do with ABS-CBN being shut down.  It had nothing to do with violating any law either.


prior to martial law, the Lopezes really had the power sectors in their pockets,
they owned television channels 2 and 4, so that all these were confiscated by marcos when martial law was imposed, only channel 9 was allowed to operate then....
same goes with the newspapers and radio stations, only those allied with government were allowed to air....

remember NPC?, sila ang power generators at transmitters of electricity, under martial law these were run by government....so then Meralco was just a mere collection agent.....

after 1986, only meralco and channel 2 was returned to the Lopezes, in terms of power generation and distribution, things were never the same as before....

but meralco today in no longer owned by the Lopez group...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2020 at 04:37 PM
Bawi bawi si Defensor....

Defensor denies personal vendetta vs. ABS-CBN, says Lopez kin did not shut down mining company (https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/7/14/Mike-Defensor-ABS-CBN-franchise-Gina-Lopez-Pax-Libera-mining.html)

alangan naman na aminin, syempre deny to death, sinungaling yan..
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2020 at 04:38 PM
lopez to solon : neck-neck mo !  :P

no way jose, they have been there before in 1972....ngayon pa ba?
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: JeromeA on Jul 17, 2020 at 09:32 PM
ipasara nila ang youtube...

Kukuhanan daw nila ng tax sir tony. Haha
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 18, 2020 at 07:48 AM
Kukuhanan daw nila ng tax sir tony. Haha

puntahan nila sa amerika or kung saan man...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 18, 2020 at 08:26 AM
Kukuhanan daw nila ng tax sir tony. Haha
idamay na din youjizz at youporn..  ^-^
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 18, 2020 at 11:08 AM
sabi ni haring burat, ibenta nyo na yan....sagot ng mga Lopez, utot mo....!!!!
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: oznola on Jul 20, 2020 at 08:31 AM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1284483713032577024
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 20, 2020 at 08:40 AM
^kumakalat din sa fb yan...
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: warmaster on Jul 20, 2020 at 01:13 PM
sinasamantala ng taeng admin na to yung pandemya para hindi makapag aklas ang mga tao. ngayon naman cha-cha naman ang gustong talakayin. konti na lang magagaya na kay Erap yung buwang na pangulo na yan
Title: Re: Will the government close down ABS-CBN?
Post by: tony on Jul 20, 2020 at 02:48 PM
sinusubukan ang pasensya ng taong bayan....