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Title: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 24, 2004 at 08:37 AM
this audio hobby is a never-ending exploit to try new equipment our budget can buy. after getting one equipment, you'll soon realize you need and want another one.

i'm now on a hunt for a new production turntable and my mind is set on getting either any of these 3 budget TTs:

Pro-Ject Debut or Xpression (Czech made)

Goldring GR-1 (English made)

since the Pro-Ject TT is the more popular brand and it comes supplied with Ortofon cart, I may be leaning towards this brand. but your suggestions may greatly influence my choice and decision. and you can likewise proffer other brands within the same budget range of 15K-30K. Clearaudio is definitely not within my reach coz i'm not filthy rich. ;D  ;D

thanks in advance
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: rony on Oct 24, 2004 at 11:03 AM
Naks naman tukayo totoo ba yan. ::)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 24, 2004 at 11:17 AM
Hindi talaga nakatiis!  ;D

I've been reading alot of reviews regarding the Project and Goldring but most of them are more in favor of the goldring. IMHO, better audition both as one's milage may vary. 
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 24, 2004 at 12:18 PM
TT session na ba?
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 24, 2004 at 05:14 PM

I've been reading alot of reviews regarding the Project and Goldring but most of them are more in favor of the goldring. IMHO, better audition both as one's milage may vary. 

parekuy, naka-GR1 ka na kase kaya kahit mas maganda pa yan, ayaw ko namang gumaya sayo! yung Pro-Ject na lang para maiba at nang may makalaban GR-1 mo sa shoot-out.  ;D  ;D

about the reviews, maybe you read the review from a british hi-fi mag and written by brit who would patriotically prefer a british brand over a czech-made and austrian-designed gear. Even then, the Hi-Fi Choice only gave a 4 star rating of the GR-1, thus, unimpressive. the Pro-Ject brand has been around for over 50 years while Goldring Lenco struggled and was shut down in the seventies only to be revived  just recently.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 24, 2004 at 11:03 PM
TT session na ba?

sir, hintay hintay lang muna tayo... palalakihin ko pa yung akin...

maliit pa kase budget ko eh... next Pro-Ject ko talaga TT ko para maging kumpleto na buhay audio ko. pag may magandang TT na ko pwede ko na ipakita sa inyo at mag TT session na tayo ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 25, 2004 at 08:10 AM
maganda siguro yun marami o flexible sa upgrade para meron bago everytime magsawa ka.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Audioboy on Oct 25, 2004 at 09:10 AM
GR1 or Project TT? Project TT nalang para maiba naman.  ;D

if you dont have extra time and effort, then MP3 is the only option. ;)

As the vinyl fanatics would say: "Pangit ang plaka".



Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 25, 2004 at 04:21 PM
this audio hobby is a never-ending exploit to try new equipment our budget can buy. after getting one equipment, you'll soon realize you need and want another one.

i'm now on a hunt for a new production turntable and my mind is set on getting either any of these 3 budget TTs:

Pro-Ject Debut or Xpression (Czech made)

Goldring GR-1 (English made)

since the Pro-Ject TT is the more popular brand and it comes supplied with Ortofon cart, I may be leaning towards this brand. but your suggestions may greatly influence my choice and decision. and you can likewise proffer other brands within the same budget range of 15K-30K. Clearaudio is definitely not within my reach coz i'm not filthy rich. ;D  ;D

thanks in advance
I recommend C.A. Gusto mo?
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 25, 2004 at 06:42 PM
if you dont have extra time and effort, then MP3 is the only option. ;)


matagal ko na ginagawa yan bro...

i put my notebook computer on top of the rack, connect the output mini-jack to the RCA line in of my amp, open my Windows Media Player and play a shuffled selection of MP3s in 192kbps CD quality resolution. may video monitor na ko, may equalizer pa. :o

come to think of it... it's more convenient, fun and enjoyable. try mo minsan parekuy nang maiba ka naman... wag yung gaya gaya na lang palagi!!   ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 26, 2004 at 09:02 AM
Sir Audioslave it seems you're really serious with Audio now, pure analog that's good, i thought your anti-analog hehehe (you started the thread Digital VS Analog hehehe). If I have huge collection of Vinyls I'll go for analog. However, I have only 10 pcs. of collectible vinyls.
Attorney, that ultimate goal as an audiophile! Go for it!!!! Gusto mo pahanap tayo sa China ng new production TT!
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Audioboy on Oct 26, 2004 at 10:02 AM


matagal ko na ginagawa yan bro...

i put my notebook computer on top of the rack, connect the output mini-jack to the RCA line in of my amp, open my Windows Media Player and play a shuffled selection of MP3s in 192kbps CD quality resolution. may video monitor na ko, may equalizer pa. :o

come to think of it... it's more convenient, fun and enjoyable. try mo minsan parekuy nang maiba ka naman... wag yung gaya gaya na lang palagi!!   ;D

i play MP3s through my head unit while in transit or while working with my mobile computer. indeed it is more convenient to use MP3 format especially during long drive or when busy working.

ok lang gumaya basta masaya ka sa ginaya mo parekuy.

wag lang gumaya pag di naman gusto ang gagayahin. worst scenario, hindi nga gumaya pero di naman masaya sa kinuha at sa isip isip nya, bat nga di ko ginaya ??? sana di na lang ako nahiya na gumaya ???  ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 02:59 PM
Sir Audioslave it seems you're really serious with Audio now, pure analog that's good, i thought you're anti-analog hehehe (you started the thread Digital VS Analog hehehe).

o nga eh. gagayahin ko na rin yung iba dito. mag-aanalog na rin ako!! >:D

sabi nga ni julius, di baleng mang-gaya basta masaya!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 28, 2004 at 03:04 PM
phonostage sir, ano balak mo: tube or ss?
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 03:08 PM
i'll go for the Home-made phono stage

este Homer-made Phono Stage pala...  ;D ;D

at least yun, cheap na di pa nakakasagap ng mga radio stations...

yung Contodo pre-amp nyo yata, mahina ang shielding o kulang sa earthing?  ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 28, 2004 at 03:40 PM
i'll go for the Home-made phono stage

este Homer-made Phono Stage pala...  ;D ;D

at least yun, cheap na di pa nakakasagap ng mga radio stations...

yung Contodo pre-amp nyo yata, mahina ang shielding o kulang sa earthing?  ;D

haha.... aprub yan homer-made, narinig ko yan nung nasa kahon pa ng sapatos, ganda ng tunog sir tinalo yun peborit kong phonostage (sansui), sinigurado lang ng master na okey yun tunog bago bihisan ng chassis.... yun tube phono ko may pickup ng radyo di ko alam kung dahil sa NU-107 sa ground floor namin o yung mga radio stations across the street (napapaligiran ako), pero kulang na lang antenna at dial may radyo na ko hehehe.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 03:48 PM
i'll go for the Home-made phono stage

este Homer-made Phono Stage pala...  ;D ;D

at least yun, cheap na di pa nakakasagap ng mga radio stations...

yung Contodo pre-amp nyo yata, mahina ang shielding o kulang sa earthing?  ;D

Attorney, built-in yung tuner. Tipid sa source. Kaya nga gaya-gaya rin ako! Ahahahahahaha!!!!......... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:17 PM
if only i know how to home-make:

opamp-based phono (rod elliot) (http://sound.westhost.com/project06.htm)
opamp-based phono (http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_pho2.html)
MM/MC phonostage (http://www.platenspeler.com/diy/preamps/uk_phonoclone_1.html)
phono w/ output transformers (http://www.klaus-boening.de/html/phonostage.html)
very simple / minimalist (http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_pho5.html)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: odyopayl on Oct 28, 2004 at 04:36 PM
if only i know how to home-make:

opamp-based phono (rod elliot) (http://sound.westhost.com/project06.htm)
opamp-based phono (http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_pho2.html)
MM/MC phonostage (http://www.platenspeler.com/diy/preamps/uk_phonoclone_1.html)
phono w/ output transformers (http://www.klaus-boening.de/html/phonostage.html)
very simple / minimalist (http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_pho5.html)

Then let somebody do it for you (JojoD is the name hehehehe). Sir mukhang maganda ito, change mo lang na blue LED:
opamp-based phono (http://www.geocities.com/rjm003.geo/rjmaudio/diy_pho2.html)

Di na ako maka-relate dito! Kailan kaya ako magkaka-Analog?
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:17 PM
Atty - ito ang dapat sa iyo, huwag ka na mag aksaya pa sa iba ;D

(http://www.jefferson-hifi-video.com/marques/clearaudio/img/platines/emotion_big.jpg)

ako pang Aiwa ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:21 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/evolution2g.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/kimpao/solution1g.jpg)

ice - ito dapat ang mag dapat irekumenda mo kay atty  ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:38 PM
bagay na bagay yan sa topic natin ah.... pero di yan bagay sa bulsa ko!!

di ako pwede sa Clearaudio TTs ... cannot be reached yan coz i'm not filthy rich  ;D

buti na lang may mga pictures pa yan at nakikita pa natin.  >:D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:50 PM
atty balak ko na nga mag-print ng actual size na pics niyan para ipang takip dun sa TT ko (ang sagwa pakinggan, TurnTable ;D ) para naka CA na rin ako. Ahehehehehe  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:53 PM
(http://www.project-audio.com/bilder/1xpressionv.jpg)

Pro-Ject Xpression

mga parekuy, tanong ko lang.... ano ba yung nakalawit na parang timbangan dun malapit sa counterweight ng TT? ano gamit nun?  yung ibang TT walang lawit bat yan meron? ::)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 28, 2004 at 06:02 PM
bias/anti-skate mechanism

Black hole principle - "A spinning mass will throw off debris at its perimeter due to kinetic energy, but drawing in any passing item into its centre". It opposes the tendency of the stylus to skate to the middle by applying an equal and opposite force to the arm, when set correctly. In other-words, they pull it back.  :D

Goldring, Rega and other TT's without such mechanism uses a spring type mechanism for bias. While Project and the likes use a weighted thread and pulley mechanism.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:36 PM
bias/anti-skate mechanism

Goldring, Rega and other TT's without such mechanism uses a spring type mechanism for bias. While Project and the likes use a weighted thread and pulley mechanism.

bro, e di yung TT mo pala walang lawit.... para palang naka-German cut yung Pro-Ject TTs... may lawit  ::)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:42 PM


bro, e di yung TT mo pala walang lawit.... para palang naka-German cut yung Pro-Ject TTs... may lawit  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:51 PM
ang alam ko, mas nakakapagpaligaya yung may lawit eh.... sa Pro-Ject TT na talaga ako.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:53 PM
atty balak ko na nga mag-print ng actual size na pics niyan para ipang takip dun sa TT ko (ang sagwa pakinggan, TurnTable ;D ) para naka CA na rin ako. Ahehehehehe ;D ;D ;D

ako humingi nung product brochure - para habang nagpapatugtog, dun ako naka tingin ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: bayonic on Oct 28, 2004 at 09:03 PM
i'm lucky to have both the GR1 and a ProJect Debut III .

for build quality , I would go for the ProJect ... for ease of adjustment , ProJect ... for visual impact , Project ...

for sound quality , its a tie :)

so .... ProJect na !
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 12:27 AM
ang alam ko, mas nakakapagpaligaya yung may lawit eh.... sa Pro-Ject TT na talaga ako.  ;D ;D

sir basta't pag-alam mo kung pano gamitin, ke may lawit o wala, makakapag bigay lagay din .................. yung TT (TurnTable, kayo talaga >:D ). O diba.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:32 AM
My Clearaudio Champion Basic configuration with Eminent Technology 2.5 air-bearing linear-tracking tonearm and Clearaudio Sigma MC cartridge on a DIY wall rack lighted by Omni lamp :D

(http://wap.misnet.com.ph/arnoldc/img_2761.jpg)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:19 AM
sir arnoldc,

VERY NICE!  :o :D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:52 AM
arnoldc,

Sir ganda TT mo!! hay sana makarinig din ako ng malupet na TT. :)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Oct 29, 2004 at 03:07 PM
minsan punta kayo sa sauna room ko :D mainit dun eh, ceiling fan lang ang pangpalamig :)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 29, 2004 at 06:06 PM
ganda pala ng Clearaudio TT ni sir arnold c :o

sir, if you don't mind me asking - paki-PM naman acquisition price nyo at kung saan nakakabili nyan.

kung ipapahintulot nyo, yan pa lang ang pangalawang Clearaudio TT na makikita ko (yung kay Tuff U Gong's ang una)

thanks
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 06:23 PM
minsan punta kayo sa sauna room ko :D mainit dun eh, ceiling fan lang ang pangpalamig :)

Sir sure teka bakit nga ba karamihan ng listen room eh mainit.. hehehe dalhin kya sa tubes.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:45 PM
pag lalagyan mo kase ng air-con, may hum pa yung air-con at kung may voltage fluctuation o kung nag-rerev yung motor ng air-con mo may power interruption ka pa. bigla na lang hihinto yung CD Player mo o TT mo ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 29, 2004 at 07:51 PM
pag lalagyan mo kase ng air-con, may hum pa yung air-con at kung may voltage fluctuation o kung nag-rerev yung motor ng air-con mo may power interruption ka pa. bigla na lang hihinto yung CD Player mo o TT mo ;D

Bro sa akin meron aircon kaso maingay kaya electric fan na lang.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:11 AM
kaya electric fan lang ako, kasi mahal ng kuryente no, eh naka aircon pa shih tzu ko kaya ako na lang mag suffer :D baka pumayat pa ko :D

audioslave, if you like detail and clarity with dynamic bass and lucid vocals, eh Clearaudio yun. if you like dark and warm sounding, VPI yun. i suggest dagdagan mo na lang yang pera mo ang get a VPI ($800 without arm). visit wiredstate from time to time to get bargains! that's where i got the Clearaudio Sigma cartridge (list price is $1,200) for only P30K. Here's the picture.

(http://wap.misnet.com.ph/arnoldc/img_2829.jpg)

Here's another shot of the Champion.

(http://wap.misnet.com.ph/arnoldc/img_2802.jpg)

Clearaudio also has an entry level Emotion table complete with arm and cartridge. Clearaudio is available from various dealers.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Audioboy on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:30 AM
kaya electric fan lang ako, kasi mahal ng kuryente no, eh naka aircon pa shih tzu ko kaya ako na lang mag suffer :D baka pumayat pa ko :D

audioslave, if you like detail and clarity with dynamic bass and lucid vocals, eh Clearaudio yun. if you like dark and warm sounding, VPI yun. i suggest dagdagan mo na lang yang pera mo ang get a VPI ($800 without arm). visit wiredstate from time to time to get bargains! that's where i got the Clearaudio Sigma cartridge (list price is $1,200) for only P30K. Here's the picture.

Clearaudio also has an entry level Emotion table complete with arm and cartridge. Clearaudio is available from various dealers.

hmmmmmmmm.

cartridge palang ang pinaguusapan...........nanghihina na ako sa sinasabi na presyo ni arnold.

audioslave,

take it from the master himself.  ;D

Clearaudio Emotion Turntable
(http://www.soundstage.com/vinyl/pics/200404_clearaudio_emotion.jpg)


Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 12:43 PM
Any users of Numark TT?  Are those displayed at 5th newly produced? Just curous. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:39 PM
av_phile, i believe they are new production tables.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:05 PM


hmmmmmmmm.

cartridge palang ang pinaguusapan...........nanghihina na ako sa sinasabi na presyo ni arnorld.

audioslave,

take it from the master himself.  ;D

Clearaudio Emotion Turntable
(http://www.soundstage.com/vinyl/pics/200404_clearaudio_emotion.jpg)




Grabe mahal!!! kaka-awa naman setup ko pa lang ata yun..
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:07 PM


Grabe mahal!!! kaka-awa naman setup ko pa lang ata yun..

KOya istambay nalang tayo kay Sir Rene meron siya niyan.  ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:22 PM


KOya istambay nalang tayo kay Sir Rene meron siya niyan.  ;D

Di naman pinapatugtug ni Master Hyper eh.. hehehehe







joke joke joke..
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:25 PM
affordable yang Emotion and it includes the new Satisfy tonearm and Aurum Classics cartridge.

(http://www.simplyblack.net/images/emotion_1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:32 PM
affordable yang Emotion and it includes the new Satisfy tonearm and Aurum Classics cartridge.

(http://www.simplyblack.net/images/emotion_1.jpg)

sir ano price range??
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:36 PM


Di naman pinapatugtug ni Master Hyper eh.. hehehehe







joke joke joke..

Bili ka plaka sa kanya. Yan ang ipangte-test niya, baka ipahawak pa nya TT (clearaudio turntable, kayo talaga,o) .  ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 02, 2004 at 02:58 PM
I take reviews with a bucket of salt, but for whatever it's worth here's the review and price in SoundStage!

http://www.soundstage.com/vinyl/vinyl200404.htm (http://"Emotion Review")

Summary -

"All about dynamics, snap, and excitement"; "the attack on percussion instruments, which is the function of quick start/stop and wide dynamic range, was far beyond my expectations"; " bass was certainly tight, clean and tuneful…notable for the way in which it portrayed the size and reach of instruments such as acoustic bass."

Although I can attest to that based on my own Clearaudio gear, the best is to hear it for yourself.

Clearaudio reproduces music with no coloration. Give it a great material and it will sound great, give it a crappy material and it will sound just the same. There are other turntables in the median, i.e., sounds good all the time with crappy and great materials, but will never sound great.

Stereophile Class C equipment na pala ito... But who cares 'di ba, if it will not sound great for what you paid for.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Dracula on Dec 09, 2004 at 01:27 AM
Who is selling the clearaudio emotion turntable? and how much? ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Superman on Dec 09, 2004 at 05:46 AM
go to www.wiredstate.com, go to the clearaudio thread...thanks!
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Dracula on Dec 09, 2004 at 06:35 AM
go to www.wiredstate.com, go to the clearaudio thread...thanks!

Thanks Superman,

narrowed my search for a turntable to these three:

Pro-ject 2 (my budget option)
Clearaudio Emotion (I love the look of this turntable a bit pricey but real pretty!)
Rega P3 (how much is this?)

Favoring the Rega P3 as it is a british turntable (souvenir and turntable in one!) and I'll probably be able to get a good price for it a store was selling it for £298 without a cartridge...
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: arnoldc on Dec 15, 2004 at 08:53 AM
consider customer service when buying turntables. clearaudio has superb customer service in the philippines.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: marty_e on Dec 15, 2004 at 09:58 AM
I concur that Clearaudio has THE best service in the country. This is the same guy who carries VPI and I know many, many satisfied customers of both brands. As for the Emotion, its hard to believe that US$1,200 "only" buys you an entry level table but then again, the C-Class is also the entry level of Mercedes Sedans (except for those funnly little cars) and that's a lot for an "entry-level". 

Of the one's I've heard, the Emotion/Satisfy/Aurum Classics setup is just a shade under being unforgiving on poor recordings and give just enough detail to give one the feeling that nearly any decent condition clean album in any Genre can be delivered with both dynamics and involvement. Just my GBP 0.02 on the matter.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: audioslave on Dec 17, 2004 at 11:25 AM

Favoring the Rega P3 as it is a british turntable (souvenir and turntable in one!) and I'll probably be able to get a good price for it a store was selling it for £298 without a cartridge...

do we have any local distributors of Rega TTs?

ganda ng new colors of P3 ah  ;D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: krets pulpol on May 09, 2005 at 03:25 PM
new turntable from marantz

http://www.marantz.com/new/index.cfm?fuseaction=Products.Product&cont=eu&bus=hf&prod_id=3489&series=comp&type=turn
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: kimpao on May 09, 2005 at 03:48 PM
new turntable from marantz

[img]http://www.marantz.com/new/index.cfm?fuseaction=Products.Product&cont=eu&bus=hf&prod_id=3489&series=comp&type=turn

Looks like a rebagged Clearaudio emotion fitted with a Satisfy tonearm. Only diference I see is the plinth and footings.  I wonder how it sounds, hmmmmm..... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: krets pulpol on May 09, 2005 at 05:33 PM
yep it's a rebadged clearaudio with satisfy tonearm and a few modifications by marantz.

i saw the review in hi fi world 02/05 issue but very expensive when you buy one.  good thing, the review is available in acrobat reader on that same link.

as for auditions, i hope the distributor here can bring one.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on May 15, 2005 at 08:07 AM
Uy, ngayon ko lang nakita tong thread na to. :)

Audioslave, nakabilika na ba table?

OK talaga analog, hassle lang mag-alaga / mag tono, pero in the end, coll yan. O0

Goldring GR1 (rebadged rega P2), Project Debut, or Clearaudio Emotion, panalo ka! :D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 24, 2005 at 04:11 PM
check out clearaudio's ambient turntable

maestros, i'll leave the posting of the pics to you.  ;D

baka ito bagong tt ni msm  ;D pero di yata  >:D
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Superman on Aug 24, 2005 at 05:15 PM
(http://www.musicalsurroundings.com/illos/ambientoverhd.jpg)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Superman on Aug 25, 2005 at 08:42 AM
more "byutipul" pictures:

(http://www.craneaudio.com/audio-systems/images/ambient.jpg)

(http://www.unitedhomeproducts.com/af740400.jpg)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Aug 25, 2005 at 08:12 PM
check out clearaudio's ambient turntable

maestros, i'll leave the posting of the pics to you.  ;D

baka ito bagong tt ni msm  ;D pero di yata  >:D

Wala pa ako bagong turntable. :(  But its not going to be a Clearaudio Ambiant. ;)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Jairus on Sep 08, 2005 at 04:30 PM
Any recommendation for a budget entry level TT? Are new production better sounding than vintage players like the Technics sl1200? Just asking po before plunging back into this medium :)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Jairus on Sep 09, 2005 at 01:23 PM
Found the following budget new production turntables in the net.  A relative is coming back from the States this month and I was thinking if this can be an alternative for me.  I don't consider myself an audiophile,  I just love music in any format and would love to hear vinyl again.  Your thoughts will be appreciated.  Thanks! :)

Audio Technica AT-PL50:  Belt-drive, fully-automatic, switchable pre-am  w/ outputs - $89.99
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0VQAZAwsZZj*g1YcA6oxRxcYOvEcHV5zOP0Ws8XJqZxAVDuUu7EHPqiL*EAq3KDwOnHUGcG0*DprVVAC9eix*I6QmbR5keuTht92h8vi20Z6PBBFbd!WWsUjd8RgXAycF/audio%20technica%20TPL50.jpg?dc=4675538495877774802)

Denon DP-29F: Belt-drive, manual, built-in phono equalizer - $149.99
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SACXAk8VcQ5PcizYM11PvcETsFTsfAKycWICrflrCFBSXjr!!SfrdgEPFCxWxtq02pdJpTm**bsn5UGlc36v*ftah4oOt5Ag0exzl0539pxMAAAAynITAg/denondp_29F.jpg?dc=4675538496171820989)

Technics SL-BD20D: Belt-drive, p-mount cartridge, semi-automatic - $149.99
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UACvAvkXENxZoqw1*YsabVUNMePnIUZw33oLesskqIu6iO2dXSXiRNsl*VatukMOUXI4zG3JwnY00I0OGSVS*MYnDgTTUtdHN6EfchQKcMwoncunYwsj1HSCtBYAcLQW/technics%20sl_bd20d.jpg?dc=4675538496317547638)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Jairus on Sep 12, 2005 at 06:13 PM
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Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: iceman90a on Sep 12, 2005 at 07:32 PM
the first 2 look very much the same as my old Aiwa, and some pioneers sold in this forum. for the same price i suggest you get an old technics. the sound quality of the first 2 (if they are like my aiwa) leave much to be desired...

am not sure about the new technics though :)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 12, 2005 at 03:54 PM
Thorens TD-350

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img12_3.jpg)

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img12_2.jpg)

A subchassis turntable of the new generation!

The revival of our unique subchassis-concept is starting with our new TD 350. The TD 350 represents the perfect symbiosis of a mass-drive and a subchassis turntable and unites the benefits of both technologies. Experience the rebirth of a unique technology with the most modern materials and the latest knowledge inside the TD 350!

We call it “IDD” (Independent Double Damping) and speak of the way the subchassis is suspended inside the massive wooden plinth. This kind of suspension damps the vibrations and excursions in the horizontal and the vertical completely independent of each other. In combination with our 9 lb heavy platter and the new low-friction bearing this drive has got such an incredible stable and calm rotation resulting in high resolution and big dynamics. The built-in electronic unit controls and stabilizes the speed exactly. Many more details of components of the TD 350 – such as the precisely manufactured belt, the diamondgroun platter with the bitumen coating on the groundside, the noiseless AC-synchronous motor, the excellent tone arm TP 250 – they all give their share to the outstanding sound of the TD 350.

As a long-play record maniac you can now forget all these technical details and concentrate on what is really important for you – the perfect music reproduction. Take your favorite records and you will again be fascinated and remember why you have always been a Thorens customer and why you will stay.

Available in October 2005.

Technical Data:

Drive system       :  Thorens precision belt drive
Motor                  :  electronically regulated AC synchronous motor
Playback speeds :  33 rpm 45 rpm
Speed select       :  electronic
Turntable platter : 12.0 " (300 mm) / 9.3 lbs (4.2 kg) aluminium platter, diamond turned
Tone arm             : Thorens TP 250
Anti-skating         : magnetic
Operation            : manual
Switch off/lift        : none
Signal lead capacitance    : 140 pF
Power supply                    : internal PS 800 unit 230 V / 50 Hz
Dimensions (W x H x D)    : 17.3 x 6.3 x 13.6 " (440 x 160 x 345 mm)
Weight                              : 22.0 lbs (10.0 kg)
Finish                                 : Solid wood trim in ash red and ash black
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: vvt-i on Oct 12, 2005 at 04:06 PM
Thorens TD 2030

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_1.jpg)

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_2.jpg)


rb-300?
(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_4.jpg)

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_3.jpg)

Outstanding look and perfect sound

The new Thorens Acrylic Series looks as though it comes straight out of the future: transparent, gleaming, and flawless. A work of art.
The Acrylic Series continues our 100-year tradition of turntable construction. It combines our great experience with the latest manufacturing techniques to offer you outstanding performance and a unique design.

The TD 2030 never fails to surprise: the elaborate sandwich construction produces unrivalled sound quality. But that's not all: seen from above or from the side, the 1 1/4" thick acrylic chassis has a warm blue gleam, yet from the front it is clear and transparent.
A new 1 1/2" thick alloy turntable platter weighing over 14 lbs rotates in its proven silent-run bearing.
The already favorable properties of the acrylic are considerably enhanced by the sandwich construction of the chassis. It gives the 34 lb TD 2030 unparalleled stability and a sound completely free of resonance.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: Narayan on Oct 12, 2005 at 10:09 PM
Thorens TD 2030

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_1.jpg)

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_2.jpg)


rb-300?
(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_4.jpg)

(http://www.thorens.ch/THORENS/images/img8_3.jpg)

Outstanding look and perfect sound

The new Thorens Acrylic Series looks as though it comes straight out of the future: transparent, gleaming, and flawless. A work of art.
The Acrylic Series continues our 100-year tradition of turntable construction. It combines our great experience with the latest manufacturing techniques to offer you outstanding performance and a unique design.

The TD 2030 never fails to surprise: the elaborate sandwich construction produces unrivalled sound quality. But that's not all: seen from above or from the side, the 1 1/4" thick acrylic chassis has a warm blue gleam, yet from the front it is clear and transparent.
A new 1 1/2" thick alloy turntable platter weighing over 14 lbs rotates in its proven silent-run bearing.
The already favorable properties of the acrylic are considerably enhanced by the sandwich construction of the chassis. It gives the 34 lb TD 2030 unparalleled stability and a sound completely free of resonance.

very very nice :o magkano naman kaya yan ???
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: aldrinpsx on Oct 25, 2005 at 05:57 AM
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Technics SLDZ1200 Digital CD Turntable

peace!!!!
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: aldrinpsx on Oct 25, 2005 at 06:00 AM
(http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7888/clearaudiomaximumsolutionturnt.jpg)

Clearaudio Maximum Solution Turntable

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

peace!!!!
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: M_Shoe_Maker on Feb 23, 2006 at 11:32 AM
(http://img309.imageshack.us/img309/7888/clearaudiomaximumsolutionturnt.jpg)

Clearaudio Maximum Solution Turntable

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

peace!!!!

........with Clearaudio TQI linear tracking tonearm. :)
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Mar 06, 2006 at 03:22 PM
here's another great alternative...


(http://www.michell-engineering.co.uk/pic/tur/michell_gyrose_t.jpg)

the michell gyrodeck SE (spider edition)

you can try this out at Watt Hi Fi, Makati Cinema Square.

they are the official distributor of michell turntables here in Manila.

I believe one can easily arrange for an audition of this brand.

i own a different turntable but this was a very close second in my list.

superb performance! outstanding!

pictures and some specs of other models can be found on the following website

http://www.michell-engineering.co.uk/gyrodec_orbe_turntable.html#gyrose
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: rascal101 on Mar 07, 2006 at 09:43 AM
Sir tuff_u_gong,

Kumusta sound compared to your tt?

Rascal101.
Title: Re: New Production Turn Tables
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Mar 08, 2006 at 10:15 AM
Sir tuff_u_gong,

Kumusta sound compared to your tt?

Rascal101.

matindi. punta ka sa MCS minsan. baka sakaling meron auditioning.

last tym ko napakinggan nagustuhan ko talaga ang tunog.

pag ito na ang mesa mo, di mo na siguro iisipin pang mag-upgrade.