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Title: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Feb 17, 2005 at 12:55 PM
Let's put up this thread so that we would know what's their latest acquisitons regarding some lost masterpieces and treasures of Philippine Cinema. The last one that they found was Ishmael Bernal's directorial debut.....PAGDATING SA DULO.

The NCCA and the government should help this organization so that long lost master prints of our movies will still be save and can be watch by my future grandchildren and generations to come.  :)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 17, 2005 at 02:45 PM
But a 16 mm print already exists of this film. Do they mean they restored it, or made a 35 mm safety print?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Feb 17, 2005 at 05:50 PM
I think SOFIA just restored and painstakingly cleaned Bernal's PAGDATING SA DULO.

Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 18, 2005 at 12:01 PM
I think SOFIA just restored and painstakingly cleaned Bernal's PAGDATING SA DULO.



Very good news, then. Actually, about time.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Feb 18, 2005 at 01:44 PM
Speaking of Pagdating Sa Dulo, George Sison, the film's producer , said that he made another one--the title escapes me at the moment--which he says is much better. Sadly, when he tried to search for a copy, he couldn't find one.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Feb 18, 2005 at 02:11 PM
Bernal also? Any idea who was in it, who wrote it, what's the story?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Feb 21, 2005 at 01:03 PM
Noel, the title of the movie is Huwag Tularan 7 ang Asawa ko starring Vic Vargas. Sadly, that's all the info I've got.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Mar 03, 2005 at 10:27 PM
I hope SOFIA will also unearth and dig the cult classic ELEKTRIKA.  ;D
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Mar 13, 2005 at 09:19 PM
SOFIA is now working with Film Development Council of the Philippines headed by Laurice Guillen for the establishment of our national film archives. We are very far behind from our Asian neighbors regarding film preservation.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on May 25, 2005 at 01:08 PM
It's most unfortunate that Jo Atienza, who ahs deveoted her time and energies to film archiving, and was an active member of SOFIA, has left for the States.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 25, 2005 at 01:11 PM
Hallo, RMN--I pm'd you some days back, re: magazine articles. Did you get it?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on May 26, 2005 at 04:45 PM
Oh, yeah. I asked my friend who works in BW and he said that their new mag is indeed High Life. However, I haven't spied a copy in a magazine stand.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on May 26, 2005 at 09:20 PM
It's most unfortunate that Jo Atienza, who ahs deveoted her time and energies to film archiving, and was an active member of SOFIA, has left for the States.

Is she related to Rolando Atienza, RMN, one of the producers behind the defunct Bancom Audiovision?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on May 26, 2005 at 10:03 PM
Oh, yeah. I asked my friend who works in BW and he said that their new mag is indeed High Life. However, I haven't spied a copy in a magazine stand.

Call em directly. I'm sure they have copies to sell. I checked with em, the article will definitely come out June. Hopefully I'll have a third Spanish film for July.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on May 27, 2005 at 11:39 PM
they're planning to archive the films...
but do we have an archive for the printed movie materials like posters, lobby cards etc...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on May 28, 2005 at 04:07 PM
they're planning to archive the films...
but do we have an archive for the printed movie materials like posters, lobby cards etc...

SOFIA just concentrate on archiving films.......but with regards to our local movie memorabilia and mementos we have no agency taking care of that stuff. Mowelfund  have some posters on their collections.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 10, 2005 at 12:06 AM
does this forum accept photo threads...
i haven't seen any photos or pictures here.?

i have some old filipino film posters that i'd like to share....
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 10, 2005 at 10:39 AM
Welcome aboard diabolik.

Post your movie posters/memorabilia on the thread man, we would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 10, 2005 at 12:04 PM
thanks for the warm welcome, man!
do i post it here or should i open another thread...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 10, 2005 at 12:10 PM
You can also post on this thread dude since film archiving is also associated with collecting movie memorabilia.

BTW were your posters from the Golden Age of Philippine Cinema?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 11, 2005 at 01:09 AM
my collections are from the 30's to the 70's...
what would you term to be the golden age of local cinema?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 11, 2005 at 08:10 AM
There are roughly three golden ages--the first in the '30s, the second in the '50s, and the third in the mid '70s to mid '80s. We're really familiar with the last one, as films from the second and especially first are largely gone.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 11, 2005 at 10:23 AM
It would be interesting to see your movie collection diabolik. You can post it on some other threads also.

Man I always consider films from the 70's to the 80's as the 2nd Golden Age of Philippine Cinema. I dont even know that Filipino films exists in the 1930's.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 11, 2005 at 01:49 PM
in the 30's liwayway pictures came up with
tawag ng bayan starring arsenia francisco...
one of the 30's leading ladies as the mutya
ng katipunan...
she was also the favorite leading lady of
jose padilla during the era...(http://)

(where do i insert the picture?)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 11, 2005 at 03:26 PM
It would be interesting to see your movie collection diabolik. You can post it on some other threads also.

Man I always consider films from the 70's to the 80's as the 2nd Golden Age of Philippine Cinema. I dont even know that Filipino films exists in the 1930's.

EXTREMELY SHORT HISTORY OF PHILIPPINE CINEMA (http://journals.aol.com/noelbotevera/MyJournal/entries/458)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 11, 2005 at 03:46 PM
Thanks for the link, Noel.

How come we became the most far behind among our Asian neighbors today? 60 films a year before World War II that was such an output during those times!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 11, 2005 at 03:51 PM
The taxes, the government's attitude towards cinema, our upper class' snobbery towards the same, Hollywood marketing practices changing to be more imperialistic, those are some of the reasons.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 11, 2005 at 04:00 PM
Can we count censorship and piracy?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 11, 2005 at 04:23 PM
Throw em in. And trapos in the industry and the government.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 12, 2005 at 12:28 AM
guys how do i post pictures ...
i can't find any button pertaining to image...tnx
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: wedge on Jun 12, 2005 at 03:16 AM
guys how do i post pictures ...
i can't find any button pertaining to image...tnx

if you have tons of pics, i suggest you provide us a link (on a photo server) that we can click na lang. it's easier than to incorporate images directly into the site  :)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 12, 2005 at 08:59 AM
Yahoo has an okay service for photo albums.

And you can link to it using this:

Quote
<url=http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/470>KING KONG 1933</url>

Just replace < and > using [ and ]
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jun 12, 2005 at 05:14 PM
hirap pala...
i'll find a some way na lang to post  them...

thanks guys...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jun 13, 2005 at 08:53 AM
What I do is just copy it down in a Word file somewhere, then cut and paste it when necessary.

Or just highlight the web address then click on the URL button when you post. Y'know, the button with the globe on it.

Yahoo photos is only one of many--I'm sure hotmail and google have their own. The good thing about having online photo albums is that you can send out invites to view them to all your friends, kaya learning how to put pictures online is a good investment, more or less.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 13, 2005 at 01:14 PM
hirap pala...
i'll find a some way na lang to post  them...

thanks guys...

Try and try......its a pity if we don't see your movie collections dude. I'm very much interested to see it.  :)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jun 14, 2005 at 10:47 AM
i've met someone at the Filipino Film Festival here in New York (i won't mention his name) who gave me lobby cards from movies of the 80's. he told me that the MTRCB office were just going to throw them away. fortunately he gave some of those still photos to me. i asked Herky de Mundo, Doy's brother if SOFIA knew about it,  he told me he'll ask Doy. hope they are 'coz these lobby cards and posters of classic Filipino movies must be saved,  kept and archived.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 14, 2005 at 08:40 PM
Even in online auctions like Ebay, you can never find a rare Filipino memorabilia.

I only have Unfaithful Wife poster on my collection, the Ana Marie Gutierrez flick, the rest are all Hollywood memorabilia from the 80's.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diamond on Jun 14, 2005 at 08:56 PM
Thanks for the link Bro Noel. Am still looking for your book. I'm taking up my Master's in Film right now and it would be a handy reading.

Diabolik... I really hope we could view the films in your collection.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:01 PM
Try Dateline Bookshop & Vintage Pop in Marikina Shoe Expo in Cubao. RMN saw two copies there.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diamond on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:04 PM
Thanks keating!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:13 PM
Welcome diamond. This week probably I'll visit those vintage shops and look also for Noel's book.  :)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diamond on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:29 PM
Magtira ka para sa akin bosing. hehehehe
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:38 PM
Don't worry dude, I will.  ;D
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jun 14, 2005 at 09:52 PM
AS far a image hosting is concerned, Photobucket.com is, to me, excellent.

I can't wait to see your collection...

Oh, yeah, Danny Dolor also has an impressive collection of local film memorabilia.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diamond on Jun 15, 2005 at 02:13 PM
This just in.

Good friend Lav Diaz has just delivered 18 copies of Noel Vera's book to Dateline Bookshop in Cubao. I bought one copy na. Hoping to have it signed by the author.

Sori. OT na.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 15, 2005 at 08:51 PM
Good for you, man.

Let Noel sign it .  8)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jun 16, 2005 at 10:04 PM
Thanks for the memories

First posted 09:28pm (Mla time) June 15, 2005
By Bayani San Diego Jr.
Inquirer News Service



Editor's Note: Published on Page A26 of the June 16, 2005 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

MOVIE stars of the 1940s and '50s are trooping to the LVN Studios on P. Tuazon in Quezon City, to retrieve vintage photographs and have their classic movies copied on VHS tapes.

Recently, respected industry pioneers Lilia Dizon, Armando Goyena, and Delia Razon visited their old home studio, whose film processing facilities cease operations on June 30.

Razon ordered stills, as well as tapes of "Prinsipe Teñoso," "Doce Pares," and "Lapulapu."

Razon is pretty organized-her collection of photos is neatly stored in heavy-duty plastic albums and labeled according to film. She has also indicated co-stars' and directors' names, and the years the movies were released.

"I've collected these stills through the years," she tells Inquirer Entertainment. "On the first page of every album, I always put a portrait of Doña Sisang [Narcisa de Leon, LVN matriarch and founder]."

Razon says former colleagues who have secured such precious souvenirs include Lorna  Mirasol, Oscar Obligacion, Luz Valdez, and Caridad Sanchez.

Christopher's mom

Dizon got tapes of two of her films-1948's "Kaaway ng Babae" and 1951's "Haring Kobra"-and stills from "Kandilerong Pilak," "Tucy Dides," "Doce Pares," and "Magkumpareng Putik."

She ordered three copies of a still photo from "Philippine Navy," which topbilled Goyena, Carlos Salazar, and her late husband Gil de Leon.

"I'm going to give a copy each to my children Pinky, Christopher, and Melissa," she says.

Dizon is not content with her haul and is planning to return for more. "I am looking for 'Bathaluman,'" she says.

In a previous interview, Rosa Rosal expressed concern about the fate of LVN's extensive catalogue of films and priceless collection of photographs and other memorabilia.

"What are their plans for the LVN museum?" Rosal wondered.


Her question is echoed throughout the industry.

"We really don't know," Razon says. "I've been asking around, but no one knows."

"The late Bernard Fernandez was in charge of the museum," another LVN alumni, Caridad Sanchez, volunteers. "He took good care of all the memorabilia. The museum should be maintained in honor of his memory."

Razon and Dizon have expressed sadness over the sorry state of film preservation in the country.

"My dramatic highlight in 'Luksang Tagumpay' disappeared," Razon sighs.

She recalls that, in the '70s, when GMA 7, then owned by Bob Stewart, borrowed LVN classics, the films were cut up to accommodate commercials. The excised scenes were never restored.

Melted for silver?

Another story often repeated in industry circles is how certain masterpieces were melted to get the silver in the old film stock. "I don't know how much that silver was, but they would probably be making more money [now] if they preserved those films instead," says Dizon, who starred in De Leon's "Sanda Wong."

If only they knew what was coming, Dizon and Razon say, they would have moved heaven and earth to protect their old movies.

"I did three movies for Tamaraw, an independent production company, and I know that it sold its movies to Hong Kong," Dizon says. "I hope there are copies of those somewhere in China."
Which is not far-fetched since, recently, a print of the original "Darna," with Rosa del Rosario, surfaced in Thailand.

Next stop for Razon and Dizon is the Tropicana photo studio in Malabon.

"I was told by my son Christopher that Tropicana had an exhibit at the Cultural Center of the Philippines and my glamour portraits were displayed," Dizon relates. "I remember Tropicana had this huge picture of me and it was displayed in a theater lobby.""It was bigger than life-size and it was from 'Ikaw ang Buhay Ko,'" Razon points out. "I remember it distinctly; she was in a black sequined dress."

Dizon is surprised by Razon's sharp memory.

"What we hear, we store in a filing cabinet in our brain," Razon insists.

Because in the end, she and Dizon agree, "All we have are our memories."




Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jun 16, 2005 at 10:07 PM
diabolik,

sent you a PM :)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 16, 2005 at 10:20 PM
SANDA WONG was restored by SOFIA and was shown at Pelikula at Lipunan a few years back.

I'll ask my former classmate in high school, Deda Cruz, her family owns the Tropicana Studio in my hometown in Malabon regarding those old photos. Looks like they owned hundreds of vintage stills and photographs of stars of the Golden Age era.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jun 30, 2005 at 05:41 PM
Just saw the Eyewitness docu regarding the long lost print of the first Darna in Philippine Cinema which was found in Bangkok, Thailand. Very informative, Thailand has its own Film Archive where they can restore and preserve their own films in an air conditioned room! Its a pity that our own films can be found in other countries.

Along the way film historians composed of Nick de Ocampo, Cesar Hernando & Teddy Co were debating regarding Darna. The film itself was mainly focused on Valentina the famous villain. Was the masterprint excised already?

Two other fantasy films were found there...the first Dyesebel and the other LVN flick.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diamond on Jun 30, 2005 at 07:06 PM
I hope we can do something to help archive our film treasures.

Any ideas how we can help?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jul 01, 2005 at 11:39 AM
i don't think we can expect anything from the government in terms of archiving our
films, what with the constant bickering for fame and power and fortune, the crab mentality
and the total disregard for culture and arts-wala kasi silang kikitain dyan e...

i have in the past tried to seek the help of people in the govt but it was very frustrating...
i believe the solutions now lie with us private individuals and concerned citizen...
the problem is funding...
it takes a lot of dough to mount something like this...

i've lived in thailand in the 80's and i can say that these people have a grasp on their cultre and the government is very supportive...

dito we can just wish...and try to do our own small parts...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 01, 2005 at 09:42 PM
The former First Lady Imelda Marcos was the patron of culture and arts during their time. Because of her "artsy kapritso" Manila Film Center, CCP & Folk Arts Theatre were born.

I wish we had Imelda now......there were many plans during the ECP days, premiere screenings, seminars, script writing workshops and of course film preservation is included.

But because of political upheaval and ECP can no longer recoup their investment.....all the plans were never materialize.  :(
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 03, 2005 at 12:25 AM
diabolik: you tried SOFIA? Teddy Co perhaps?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 03, 2005 at 11:57 AM
Diabolik can get in touch also with Doy del Mundo since he is the current President of SOFIA.

OT.......Doy del Mundo has a film in the can already to be shown on Cinemalaya at the CCP this month.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jul 04, 2005 at 05:30 PM
diabolik: you tried SOFIA? Teddy Co perhaps?

Or me?  :D
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 04, 2005 at 10:04 PM
Or me?  :D

Dude are you part of the SOFIA now?  8)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolik on Jul 05, 2005 at 10:13 AM
i've tried sofia in the past...not interested.... :((http://)(http://)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 05, 2005 at 01:52 PM
You're not interested or they're not interested? We're talking film prints here, right? From before the 1930's?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Astroantiquity on Jul 14, 2005 at 10:29 PM
I thought Unitel will release a remastered version of Himala?  Now, they got to release Magnifico (argh!), but where are the classics?  I saw Oro Plata Mata from WOWOW, and it seems like they cleaned up the copy.  Oh, those japanese folks, they'll watch anything (I actually admire them for that...  they have LD copies of movies which can't be found anywhere else... although, the annoying optical fogging appears whenever nudity is present).
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 16, 2005 at 05:47 PM
They have shown William Pascual's TAKAW TUKSO at Titus Brandsma a few weeks ago. First time I think that they screened a Filipino film in a long while. Its the director's cut but not the actual masterprint, only the complete beta format.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 06:29 AM
They have shown William Pascual's TAKAW TUKSO at Titus Brandsma a few weeks ago. First time I think that they screened a Filipino film in a long while. Its the director's cut but not the actual masterprint, only the complete beta format.

i thought they cannot find a copy of the movie? i'm quite sure that William Pascual doen't even have a copy of Takaw Tukso. fortunately i was able to retreive mine... along with Di Maghilom Ang Sugat, the follow-up to Takaw....
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 01:45 PM
Jo is it true that the Film Archives before was under the basement of the ghostly Manila Film Center? When the Aquino administration took over, all the film reels were wet with water due to flood and abandoned already.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: diabolix56 on Jul 17, 2005 at 02:10 PM
yes they were.
you should see the pitiful condition of our local films...
rusted, corroded desaturated all because nobody took the initiative
to care for them...now that they want to restore them...
wala na puro pulbos na lang...  :(
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 07:21 PM
Jo is it true that the Film Archives before was under the basement of the ghostly Manila Film Center? When the Aquino administration took over, all the film reels were wet with water due to flood and abandoned already.

what diabolix said is true. i remember when we borrowed the print of Himala we had to go down the basement of the Film Center and get  it with Cirio Santiago's permission of course. it's so sad to think about the carelessness and lack of respect they've done to our films.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 07:27 PM
This is OT, just for my curiosity, have you seen ghost there Jojo? I remember when my cousins tagged me to watch Oro plata mata at the Manila Film center, after I was rejected, I went to the bathroom and the corridors looks so creepy.  :o
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:02 PM
This is OT, just for my curiosity, have you seen ghost there Jojo? I remember when my cousins tagged me to watch Oro plata mata at the Manila Film center, after I was rejected, I went to the bathroom and the corridors looks so creepy.  :o

well there were talks about ghosts lurking at the Film Center but honestly, I never had any experience... i used to go there a lot most especially in the late 80's when we would hold film screening s there. but no, i've never seen any ghosts... by the way is that nude mural of Imelda still there?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:06 PM
There's a painting of Imelda at the Film Center but I can't recall if its nude, Jo. The one where her eyes followed you wherever you go. Baka siya ang ghost doon, hehehe.  ;D

Seriously speaking, in the late 80's, the film center still operates?  ???
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:20 PM
There's a painting of Imelda at the Film Center but I can't recall if its nude, Jo. The one where her eyes followed you wherever you go. Baka siya ang ghost doon, hehehe.  ;D

Seriously speaking, in the late 80's, the film center still operates?  ???
hindi naman siya totally nude... like si Malakas at si Maganda, 'yung natatakpan ang private parts then she had long flowing hair. nasa lobby 'yun before...

definitely! the Film Center was still in operation during Cory's regime. 'yun nga lang halos sira na 'yung mga seats then may mga grafitti na ang mga walls... nakakapanghinayang kasi it was really the perfect place to watch movies.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:28 PM
Yup its still there, the Imelda mural. And the eyes looks like she follows you wherever you go. My cousins felt some eerie atmosphere at the Manila Film Center during those times. Like for instance, someone will flush the toilet bowl even though you're the only one inside the comfort room.

Its a pity really because it was patterned I think sa Cannes Film festival plus the amenities also. 
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:46 PM
Yup its still there, the Imelda mural. And the eyes looks like she follows you wherever you go. My cousins felt some eerie atmosphere at the Manila Film Center during those times. Like for instance, someone will flush the toilet bowl even though you're the only one inside the comfort room.

Its a pity really because it was patterned I think sa Cannes Film festival plus the amenities also. 

it's still there... is it true that they're planning to demolish the building? sayang naman... i remember that one scene in Soltero where Chanda Romero finally admitted to Jay that she is a lesbian it was shot at the Manila Film Center...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:51 PM
That's the plan I think to demolish the building and some people wants to build a monument in that area in memory to those workers who  perished during the terrible accident.

Speaking of SOLTERO this was the last movie produced by ECP or was it Abbo dela Cruz' MISTERYO SA TUWA?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:04 PM
That's the plan I think to demolish the building and some people wants to build a monument in that area in memory to those workers who  perished during the terrible accident.

Speaking of SOLTERO this was the last movie produced by ECP or was it Abbo dela Cruz' MISTERYO SA TUWA?

they build a memorial next to it instead... don't demolish the building they should restore it for heaven's sake.

yeah... Soltero was the last movie produced by the ECP.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:16 PM
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:19 PM
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.

they should... they may have shown more bad films but the fact remains that the Manila Film Center is an important part of Philippine Cinema History.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:22 PM
Yeah, its documented and part of Film History. If only I was not rejected for the screening of Oro, Plata, Mata.

Was censorship very strict during those times?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:26 PM
Yeah, its documented and part of Film History. If only I was not rejected for the screening of Oro, Plata, Mata.

Was censorship very strict during those times?

i'm not sure whether censorship was strict. i remember watching Oro at the Ali Mall Cinema 3 as part of the MIFF and i was able to get in... and i was still a minor back then.   ;D
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:33 PM
i'm not sure whether censorship was strict. i remember watching Oro at the Ali Mall Cinema 3 as part of the MIFF and i was able to get in... and i was still a minor back then.   ;D

What? Baka you change your age, Jo? I ended up at the nearby Harrizon Plaza with my yaya after I was rejected.  ;D
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 18, 2005 at 12:52 AM
Its an edifice of history, I mean, the MANILA FILM CENTER. Both good and bad films were shown there. The government should restore it, agree with you about that.

Edifice or monument, but for goodness' sake, don't store films there! The heavy salt air--kkkkk! for film prints! I can't believe they'd actually choose a seaside location for their archives...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: jdv1229 on Jul 18, 2005 at 08:22 AM
What? Baka you change your age, Jo? I ended up at the nearby Harrizon Plaza with my yaya after I was rejected.  ;D

my uncle tried to sneak me inside the theater... nakalusot naman but i remember being scared of the violent scenes remember Lorli Villanueva's fingers being cut off?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 18, 2005 at 12:34 PM
Edifice or monument, but for goodness' sake, don't store films there! The heavy salt air--kkkkk! for film prints! I can't believe they'd actually choose a seaside location for their archives...

Yeah the location of the Film Archive doesn't suit very well for the atmosphere and the weather. But if its air conditioned at the basement, will it still maintain the condition of the prints?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 19, 2005 at 05:20 AM
Sea air has a way of getting in, air-conditioning or no air-conditioning. Your best bet is somewhere cold and hopefully seismologically and vulcanologically stable...
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: devlin_waugh on Sep 26, 2005 at 06:02 PM
Sir keating / Noel, would any SOFIA member/s by any chance be interested in doing a project of the same nature what Mr. Tony Gloria of Unitel pictures is doing -- restoring/acquiring copyrights of old films and transferring them into digital formats and selling/distributing them?

Is the digital transfer cost still prohibitive? I believe there is a market for old films here and abroad as most of the posts in this forum indicate  ;) Just a thought...I'd appreciate it if you could share your thought on this (the pro's and con's and the in-betweens of venturing into it), thank you very much!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Sep 26, 2005 at 06:15 PM
Hi man! Are you in town? I know peeps who are into this. just send a pm and we can talk about it. Thanks! :)
BTW, like I mentioned in another thread, DVD editions of LVN classics--complete with menus and a special feature--have been produced but it's not for commercial release--yet.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Oct 23, 2005 at 05:54 PM
My friend was able to copy on cable a few years back the original GABI NG LAGIM produced by Larry Santiago Productions. Sad thing is the film is not complete anymore, some of the opening credits including important scenes on the four episodes are incomplete! The cast is headed by the late Fernando Poe Jr.

Paging SOFIA to the rescue!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Oct 26, 2005 at 04:31 PM
Sea air has a way of getting in, air-conditioning or no air-conditioning. Your best bet is somewhere cold and hopefully seismologically and vulcanologically stable...

Our weather is not suited really for preserving those old films. Since Manila Film Center was a stone's throw away from the GSIS, I was able to pass by and saw the basement. It was still abandoned and stinking already.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jan 16, 2008 at 06:50 PM
SOFIA will have its general assembly and election on Jan. 31 at 1pm at the CCP Multi-Purpose Hall on the 4th floor. Everyone whose heart into preserving film heritage is invited to attend and be a member.

Thanks to RMN for the info. Jo Atienza is back in town finally.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 06, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Quest for a national film archive continues

By Clodualdo del Mundo Jr.



MANILA, Philippines—Armando "Mandy" Diaz Jr. described himself as a
fan of Nora Aunor, the Superstar of Philippine Cinema in the '60s and
the '70s. He was no ordinary fan—in his words, he loved Nora
Aunor "super-to-the-max."

I didn't know Diaz personally. I just learned about him through the
Internet when he passed away not too long ago. The announcement from
his fellow Noranians attached an essay that Mandy wrote about himself
as a superfan, entitled "Himala," which describes his devotion to the
superstar. In his home, a photo of his idol occupies a special place
on the family altar. His house, located on what he refers to as Nora
Aunor Avenue, is marked by Aunor's huge photos on the door and window.

This devotion, which started when Diaz was in the first grade and
continued till his death at age 48, resulted in 47 volumes of book-
bound clippings from 1967 to 2008. There are 10 photo albums—
including stills from the actress' movies.

Bit player

Moreover, there are 172 original layouts of Nora's films, from "All
Over the World" (1967), when Nora was just a bit player, to her 2004
film, "Naglalayag." He also mentions his collection of records by La
Aunor that he would listen to every morning to set each day right!
Indeed, there may not be that kind of collection anywhere else.

What does Diaz's story say about archiving in the Philippines?
Collecting, which is a major part of archiving, is done by people
like Mandy. Collectors are motivated by personal tastes and choices.

In this country, if you need stills from motion pictures, you go to
individual producers and pray that they have stored those stills and
would be willing to share them. Or, you go to people like Cesar
Hernando, who keeps his collection in Kodak photo-paper boxes.

If you need movie posters, you visit production companies and pray
that they have a collection of their posters—or, you can go to Vic
Delotavo, a movie-poster designer who keeps a good collection of his
own works. If you need movie ads of prewar or postwar movies up to
the '50s, you might want to check out the collection of Danny Dolor,
who's a patron of the arts.

Now that DVDs are easier to acquire, I wouldn't be surprised to see
private collections of films. Check out filmmakers and actors for
copies of their own works. And don't discount collections of 35mm
films, however limited they may be. If you're looking for the
original Filipino version of Manuel Conde's "Genghis Khan," there's a
Filipino living in California who has a print of Conde's classic—in
35mm!

Establishment

The point is, there's no central place where extra-filmic artifacts,
much less the movies themselves, are archived. When the Sofia
(Society of Filipino Archivists for Film) was organized in 1994, its
mission was to see the establishment of a national audio-visual
archive. Today, that same mission continues.

In a recent inventory of the collections of several archives and
storage facilities, Sofia found that many of them are in various
levels of disrepair. There's only one institution in the country that
operates as an honest-to-goodness storage facility: The state-of-the-
art ABS-CBN Film Archive.

Actually, things would be simpler if we changed the name of the ABS-
CBN archive to the to National Film Archive of the Philippines, which
would cut short Sofia's goal. However, that is well nigh impossible,
since the Lopezes and the Arroyo administration are embroiled in the
electric power controversy.

But, honestly, the ABS-CBN Film Archive is our de facto national film
archive: It now houses the LVN collection (LVN was one of the three
major movie studios in the '50s), the FPJ collection, and virtually
all the films produced by Regal, RVQ and other companies. Moreover,
it operates as a real archive should—because researchers are allowed
access to its collection!

More and more of our films are being archived outside the country:
Lino Brocka's "Insiang" and "Bona" are in the Cinémathèque Française,
as well as Gerry de Leon's "48 Oras" and Conde's "Genghis Khan." The
British Film Institute has copies of Lino Brocka's "Maynila…Sa Mga
Kuko ng Liwanag," "Bayan Ko" and "Bona," and Eddie Romero's "Ganito
Kami Noon…Paano Kayo Ngayon?"

A Mike de Leon collection is archived in Singapore. Lav Diaz's movies
can be found in Vienna. Tikoy Aguiluz's "Boatman" is in Brussels.
Those produced by Armida Siguion-Reyna can be found in Los Angeles.
Ishmael Bernal's "Nunal sa Tubig" is in Berlin. New York's Museum of
Modern Art has a copy of "Bona." Fukuoka's city library likewise has
a collection of Filipino features. If this trend continues, we will
certainly lose direct access to our own films!

In the meantime, the work for the establishment of a National Audio-
Visual Archive resumes. The future doesn't look bleak, although it
doesn't look that bright, either. People are pushing for the
collaboration of the Film Development Council and the Cultural Center
of the Philippines.

Resources

Since the FDCP is mandated to act on the archiving needs of the
industry, the idea is to speed up its work by collaborating with
CCP's archive—to make use of resources that are already available!

The dream of having a National Audio-Visual Archive will be realized—
simply because there are Pinoys who worship at the altar of Cinema.
To use the words of Aunor's superfan, we are devoted to this
goal "super-to-the-max"!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: sinehansakanto on Jul 13, 2008 at 03:00 AM
Quest for a national film archive continues

By Clodualdo del Mundo Jr.



MANILA, Philippines—Armando "Mandy" Diaz Jr. described himself as a
fan of Nora Aunor, the Superstar of Philippine Cinema in the '60s and
the '70s. He was no ordinary fan—in his words, he loved Nora
Aunor "super-to-the-max"...

I've argued [a href=http://sinehansakanto.blogspot.com/2007/09/lost-and-found-box-finding-cinematic.html]before[/a] that finding Filipino movies will require taking the non-traditional route. This means, relying on Europe and the US, but also looking at other places such as companies that specialized in taking films from the Philippines (once the biggest film industry in Asia) and showing them as "exotic products"; other small countries that traditionally imported films from Asian countries (South Asian countries, China, Southeast asian countries, Latin American countries, West African countries, and especially Middle Eastern countries); and underground video enthusiasts who specialize in the freakish and "weird" (let's admit it, our tendency for the "bold" can seem freakish to other people). In my opinion, Europe and major american archives have the best, auteur, artistic films. Everywhere else has the rest.

Speaking of posters, it's untrue that Ebay is not a good source of Fillipino movies. From my recent purchases, I discovered Filipino films have been imported to the US, as well as to Israel, Argentina, Mexico, and Pakistan. How? You can buy posters of Filipino movies from those countries. (I have a poster of Badjao with Hebrew text.)

Simply put, let's stop celebrating Filipino cinema as national cinema. We're like Hollywood even before Hollywood decided to go global. Hence, Filipino movies must return to form: we have to go global. Retrace our steps back not only to Europe and North america, but to the rest of the world. I think Genghis Khan, Sanda Wong, and Darna are only the tip of the iceberg. With extensive archiving from India, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia (Avellana's Sarjan Hassan is floating around Malaysia in the form of VCDs), Argentina, Israel, Iran and Afghanistan going on, it is inevitable that in their search, we will find our own movies too.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 13, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Finding a poster of an old Filipino film is a rare commodity these days. The best way is to contact also a film historian or a film curator like Teddy Co. Its good that Ebay has some of those rare memorabilia.

 Sad but true that finding a copy of an old Filipino film can be found overseas like in the U.S. for instance. Copies of Brocka's SANTIAGO & TUBOG SA GINTO  long lost in oblivion were found there, and I'm praying that another lost Brocka masterpiece......LUNES, MARTES, MIYERKULES, HUWEBES, BIYERNES, SABADO, LINGGO.....whew.....can be found also in the near future!

The judgement day is on Wednesday at the CCP where a retro of Manuel Conde films will be screened particularly GENGHIS KHAN.....feedback was that the print was actually in better condition and CCP was able to get a video copy of the film!
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: sinehansakanto on Jul 13, 2008 at 09:53 PM
Sad but true that finding a copy of an old Filipino film can be found overseas like in the U.S. for instance.

Not really that sad. These videotapes end up in the US to begin with because of the Filipino diaspora in certain parts of the US (California, Virginia, New Jersey in particular). It's inevitable that Filipino movies follow Filipinos wherever they go. It's a surprise actually that we haven't looked at other historic hot spots for Filipino migration: Canada, Guam, Hawaii, the Middle East. I guarantee that with enough digging one can find movies in those places. (Guam and Hawaii might be particularly important. Large-scale pre-war immigration to those two places could possibly mean the survival of pre-war films from theatres that cater to Filipino migrants. The same goes for Cuba and the former Soviet states, who probably had a field day with leftist/populist bent in many Filipino films such as Daigdig ng mga Api.)
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jul 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM
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Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 14, 2008 at 01:32 PM
Hey sinehansakanto, will there be a chance that we can still dig Gerry de Leon's DAIGDIG NG MGA API said to be the Holy Grail of Long Lost Filipino Films?

Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: sinehansakanto on Jul 14, 2008 at 05:38 PM
Hey sinehansakanto, will there be a chance that we can still dig Gerry de Leon's DAIGDIG NG MGA API said to be the Holy Grail of Long Lost Filipino Films?

I don't doubt it. de Leon's films were very well travelled and appreciated in other countries. (We always praise Brocka for being well known in Europe, but the same goes for our directors from the 50s: Avellana, Conde, de Leon.) Not only in France mind you, but especially in Malaysia and Indonesia, where Filipino directors were very influential in shaping local film industries. (Sarjan Hassan, one of the classics of Malaysian Cinema, was a collaboration between Avellana and P. Ramlee, Malaysia's answer to Leopoldo Salcedo; Silos was very active in Southeast Asia, as well as Argentina, Brazil, and Mexico; Bernal was said to have trained under Satyajit Ray, and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a significant interchange of Filipino-Bengali films.) I think one of the main obstacles of Filipino film archiving isn't the lack of material, but the timidity in thinking that no one cared about our movies except for us. In fact Filipino cinema was influential in shaping World Cinema, and that in return the rest of the world kept our movies safe, waiting for us to rediscover them.

Now, will we find it in the Philippines? I highly doubt it. Just like the attitude towards movies in Mexico, India, and the US, we treated our movies as commodities simply because our approach to it has always been that of a product-producing industry rather than an art form. Classics from these countries tend to end-up somewhere else because they tend to be appreciated as art somewhere else. But no need to lose sleep over this--all the condemntation of "Filipinos just don't appreciate their own product" has been an acusation that has been leveled on those three aforementioned countries. The most important thing now is to shift fire and focus on areas we have not previously focused on.

Finally, let me add another thing: who's to say that none of our pre-war films didn't end up in the US, India, Germany, or France? The first person to introduce cinema to the Philippines was a French guy (or so I remember), and it wouldn't surprise me if going back to his estate, we discover that not only did he take footage of the country, but that he had a Filipino crew doing it as well. And with Japan and the US being former colonisers, it also would not surprise me if some of the movies made in the country they colonised were taken as souvenirs. The possibilities, as they say, are limitless.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: sinehansakanto on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:54 AM
Here you go, happy bidding!

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Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: RMN on Jul 29, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Rare LVN memorabilia find a home in Lopez Museum

LOPEZ Memorial Museum's reputation as one of the country's leading museums got a boost with a donation of hundreds of rare film memorabilia from LVN Pictures.

LVN, along with the other members of the "Big Four" (Lebran International, Premiere Productions and Sampaguita Pictures), is acknowleged as one of the great Philippine movie studios whose output of critically acclaimed films helped usher in the Golden Age of Philippine cinema in the postwar years.

The heirs of Doña Narcisa Buencamino vda. De Leon, represented by Narcisa L. Escaler and Nieva Paz L. Eraña, presented the bequest to museum director Mercedes Lopez-Vargas, trustee Margot Fragante and Lopez Group chairman Oscar M. Lopez.

Escaler said that her grandmother wanted "to make the collection available to the public, to several generations. "

The collection includes photos with LVN firsts in Filipino Movies; e.g. "Orasang Guinto" (1946), the first Filipino post war film with Mila del Sol and Bimbo Danao under the direction of Manuel Conde; "Batalyon XIII" (1949), the first Filipino full-color movie with Carmen Rosales and Jaime dela Rosa, directed by Manuel Silos; "Rodrigo de Villa" (1952), the first Filipino co-production with a foreign film company, Indonesia's Persari Productions, Inc., with Delia Razon and Mario Montenegro, directed by Gregorio Fernandez; scripts of acclaimed films including those under the direction of the National Artist Lamberto V. Avellana and casts led by Tony Santos and Rosa Rosal; "Anak Dalita" (1956), an Asian Film Festival Best Picture and "Badjao" (1957), Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Screenplay & Best Editing in the Asian Film Festival; posters, music sheets that include the song "Doña Sisang" with music by Jose Climaco, lyrics by National Artist Levi Celerio and four songs sung by Tessie Quintana and Armando Goyena in the film "Hawayana" (1953); and newspaper clippings relating to 327 movie titles and productions from 1939 to 1965.

Formed in 1938, LVN took its name from the first letters of the owners' names: De Leon, Carmen Villongco and Eleuterio Navoa Jr. De Leon, known as Doña Sisang subsequently took over as president of LVN after buying out the inactive partner-families.

LVN rolled out its first production, "Giliw Ko," under the direction of Carlos Vander Tolosa starring Ely Ramos, Fernando Poe Sr., Mila del Sol and Fleur de Lis (later known as "Mona Lisa"), in 1939. In 1941, it jumpstarted a new trend by producing the first Filipino film in color, Vicente Salumbides' "Ibong Adarna"; the cast included Mila del Sol, Fred Cortes and Manuel Conde, who went on to become an acclaimed director.

LVN also became home to some of the biggest stars of the era, including Rogelio dela Rosa , Armando Goyena, Nestor de Villa, Mario Montenegro, Mila de Sol, Lilia Dizon, Norma Blancaflor, Rosa Rosal, Delia Razon, Nida Blanca, and Caridad Sanchez.

In all, LVN made over 350 movies in a variety of genres: musical comedies, costume adventures, and socially relevant fare now considered Philippine classics, including "Lapu-Lapu," "Badjao," "Anak Dalita" and "Biyaya ng Lupa." Its output contributed in making LVN the Philippines' foremost movie studio for 30 years.

LVN produced its last film, "Kakabakaba Ka Ba?," in 1980, 19 years after reinventing itself as a postproduction house in 1961; it closed in 2005.

Lopez Memorial Museum now houses LVN's glory years with 12,250 rare and original photos, scripts, posters, music sheets and newspaper clippings relating to 327 movie titles and productions from 1939 to 1965.

The Lopez Memorial Museum now ranks as one of the premier Southeast Asian institutions, built upon a rich trove of Philippine primary historical and cultural source materials. It is dedicated to advance Philippine scholarship and preserving the heritage of art and literature, especially through the help and support of collectors such as the heirs of Doña Sisang's.

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Reference:

Rosan Cruz

Benpres Group PR
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Jul 31, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Ishmael Bernal's NUNAL SA TUBIG  is now in state of vinegar syndrome at the CCP.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: ciconneguy on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:09 AM
Even in online auctions like Ebay, you can never find a rare Filipino memorabilia.

I only have Unfaithful Wife poster on my collection, the Ana Marie Gutierrez flick, the rest are all Hollywood memorabilia from the 80's.

just bumped into this old thread. very informative. got me into thinking. aside from collecting dvds/vcds/vhs of filipino films, i should probably start collecting memorabilia too.

buti na lang itinago ko yung poster ng kapit sa patalim ni brocka, a still of bernal's nagbabagang luha and a still of brocka's gumapang ka sa lusak. they're not that mint but still pretty good.
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: keating on Sep 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Hey cicconeguy, where did you get the poster of Brocka's KAPIT SA PATALIM?
Title: Re: Society of Film Archivist
Post by: ciconneguy on Sep 29, 2008 at 03:18 AM
Hey cicconeguy, where did you get the poster of Brocka's KAPIT SA PATALIM?

hiningi ko sa dati kong pinagtrabahuhan. sayang e. tinambak lang kasi, halos itapon na. maliit na poster lang yun, not as big as the movie posters we see in theaters, sepia-toned. pero may credits ng staff ng movie.