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Entertainment => Film & TV Talk => Pinoy Entertainment => Topic started by: keating on Mar 22, 2005 at 11:58 AM
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There is an interesting part on Joel David's Field Of Vision book wherein some people from Philippine Cinema listed their Top Ten Best Filipino Films of All Time.
Lists are matter of debate...mine can change from time to time....with the exception of the Top 3......8) :)
1. ORO PLATA MATA- Peque Gallaga
2. ITIM- Mike de Leon
3. MAGNIFICO- Maryo J. delos Reyes
4. SCORPIO NIGHTS- Peque Gallaga
5. MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG- Lino Brocka
6. MANILA BY NIGHT- Ishmael Bernal
7. BROKEN MARRIAGE- Ishmael Bernal
8. HIMALA- Ishmael Bernal
9. TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS- Mario O'Hara
10. BIYAYA NG LUPA- Manuel Silos
Honorable Mention: The following films, I can't squeeze anymore, but that doesn't mean they are worthless.
SALOME
KISAPMATA
MORAL
VIRGIN FOREST
UNFAITHFUL WIFE
BATCH '81
KAKABAKABA KA BA
TAKAW TUKSO
ALAMAT NI JULIAN MAKABAYAN
PRIVATE SHOW
ORAPRONOBIS
NYMPHA
BAGETS
HINUGOT SA LANGIT
KARNAL
GUMISING KA, MARUJA
ISANG ARAW WALANG DIYOS
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Didn't we do this already? Oh well:
TWELVE GREAT FILIPINO FILMS (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/480)
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Didn't we do this already? Oh well:
TWELVE GREAT FILIPINO FILMS (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/480)
I just remember........thanks again for the link, Noel. :)
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Worth having a separate thread. Might encourage others to post their links.
Glad to see Biyaya ng Lupa and Scorpio Nights on your list, keats. You need to see more Mario O'Hara, tho.
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Worth having a separate thread. Might encourage others to post their links.
Glad to see Biyaya ng Lupa and Scorpio Nights on your list, keats. You need to see more Mario O'Hara, tho.
Yeah I know he's great man. Time is my main problem whenever O'Hara flick is showing on Cinema One. Even Peque look up to his TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS.
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here's my ten best Filipino films not in any particular order...
HIMALA
MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG
KISAPMATA
SALOME
BAKIT BUGHAW ANG LANGIT?
MANILA BY NIGHT
TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
BABAE SA BUBUNGANG LATA
SCORPIO NIGHTS
DALAWANG PUGAD, ISANG IBON
i opted to include Dalawang Pugad in my list than Pagputi Ng Uwak.. it seemed to me that after having seen both films lately, the latter seemed so dated compared to the former which stood the test of time.
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HIMALA has great visuals the long tracking shot where the prostitute (Gigi Duenas) & the photographer are talking away from the maddening crowd of Elsa is creepy.....and of course the much talked about climactic ending shouldn't be argue about. Powerful.....brilliant.
SALOME will be on my top ten bumping BAGETS....Jo.....OT..... Laurice Guillen is being attacked right now by some people being the head of Film Development Board....
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HIMALA has great visuals the long tracking shot where the prostitute (Gigi Duenas) & the photographer talking away from the maddening crowd of Elsa is creepy.....and of course the much talked about climactic ending shouldn't be argue about.
SALOME will be on my top ten bumping BAGETS....OT..... Laurice Guillen is being attacked right now by some people being the head of Film Development Board....
Salome is on my top ten for the simple reason that i think it's Guillen's best film ever! i used to admire her directorial style in films like Kasal?, Kung Ako'y Iiwan Mo, Init Sa Magdamag & Kung Mahawi Man Ang Ulap which rounds up her five best films. being the head of the Film development Board is also questionable. i cannot understand how Santa-Santita got an A rating from the CEB. i saw the movie last week in New York and i was so disappointed after watching it although i believe Jericho Rosales delivered an impressive performance in an underwritten role. this film is a perfect example of too many cooks spoiling the broth... the three writers didn't really know which direction the film was going.
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I havent watch any other Laurice Guillen flicks aside from SALOME, KUNG MAHAWI MAN ANG ULAP, TANGING YAMAN. She can deliver a story though.
We still have to listen to her story Jo why she didn't abstain from the Cinema Evaluation Board on rating her own film....and the junkets that she used abroad while promoting BABAE SA BREAKWATER is being questioned also by a member of the Film Academy of the phils. Unfortunately the letter landed on my own office table. ;)
But I still believe she has the credentials and qualified to save the ailing Philippine cinema.
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Yeah I know he's great man. Time is my main problem whenever O'Hara flick is showing on Cinema One. Even Peque look up to his TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS.
Not just Tatlong Taong--in my book the greatest Filipino film ever made--but also The Fatima Buen Story, Bulaklak sa City Jail, Condemned, Halimaw sa Banga, Mortal, Babae sa Bubungang Lata, Pangarap ng Puso and Sisa (tho the Cinema One version will be cut (tho I do remember a screening where Sisa was shown uncut--female pubic hair on Cinema One!), Mga Bilanggong Birhen (which I prefer over Oro, Plata), and the wonderful, wonderful Kastilyong Buhangin.
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How could I drop down on my lists Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT ? It should be on Top 5.
Manila is so dirty after seeing it and the denizens of the night explode perfectly in this Bernal classic....... the house of the family of the late Charito Solis was the same house used by Bernal in the Pridyeder episode of SRR.
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Okay, let's see. This, also, in no order of preference except that they are what i think worth mentioning:
Itim
Tinimbang Ka't Ngunit Kulang
Kisapmata
Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Babae sa Bubungang Lata
Kapit sa Patalim
anything Tito, Vic and Joey (haha, i know someone will get me for this, but still i think they are the vanguard of the 80s comedy- - -which i could still remember vividly, kapanahunan ko kasi hehe).
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good to see bubungang lata on your list.
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Okay, let's see. This, also, in no order of preference except that they are what i think worth mentioning:
Itim
Tinimbang Ka't Ngunit Kulang
Kisapmata
Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Maynila sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Babae sa Bubungang Lata
Kapit sa Patalim
anything Tito, Vic and Joey (haha, i know someone will get me for this, but still i think they are the vanguard of the 80s comedy- - -which i could still remember vividly, kapanahunan ko kasi hehe).
if you don't mind wedge.....what TVJ flick is worth mentioning or the best among the crop.....FORWARD MARCH, ISKUL BUKOL, SUPER WAN TU TRI...... ??? ;)
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I havent watch any other Laurice Guillen flicks aside from SALOME, KUNG MAHAWI MAN ANG ULAP, TANGING YAMAN. She can deliver a story though.
We still have to listen to her story Jo why she didn't abstain from the Cinema Evaluation Board on rating her own film....and the junkets that she used abroad while promoting BABAE SA BREAKWATER is being questioned also by a member of the Film Academy of the phils. Unfortunately the letter landed on my own office table. ;)
But I still believe she has the credentials and qualified to save the ailing Philippine cinema.
i thought Tanging Yaman was so pretentious... her ability to translate a good script into a great film is unquestionable although sometimes she gets carried away by the material like what happened with Santa-Santita or even Tanging Yaman. don't get me wrong, i do believe in her talent... she is in fact one of our best directors.
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How could I drop down on my lists Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT ? It should be on Top 5.
Manila is so dirty after seeing it and the denizens of the night explode perfectly in this Bernal classic....... the house of the family of the late Charito Solis was the same house used by Bernal in the Pridyeder episode of SRR.
oh the house... it was also the same one used in Bagets (where Jobelle Salvador lived), Minsan, May Isang Ina (William Martinez' house), Sharon & Charito's in Cross My Heart although i'm not sure whether the one in the Pridyider episode of Shake, Rattle & Roll was the same house... if you'd notice it was located in a nice subdivision.
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oh the house... it was also the same one used in Bagets (where Jobelle Salvador lived), Minsan, May Isang Ina (William Martinez' house), Sharon & Charito's in Cross My Heart although i'm not sure whether the one in the Pridyider episode of Shake, Rattle & Roll was the same house... if you'd notice it was located in a nice subdivision.
yup its the same house Jo......I noticed it when Charito Solis came out in SRR screaming outside.....you can't notice it at first because the atmosphere inside was rather dark and creepy.
is it somewhere in QC kaya?
Laurice Guillen's AMERICAN ADOBO was disastrous, still have to watch SANTA SANTITA.
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good to see bubungang lata on your list.
thanks noel. hehe. yup, good thing i saw a vhs copy of this film at a closing-day sale of a video shop noon. and it's a good buy. i've seen snippets of it in Cinema One a few years back, so I decided to get a copy of it na rin and napanood ko rin cia ng buo. it's a nice film din, even my wife sat through it.
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Not just Tatlong Taong--in my book the greatest Filipino film ever made--but also The Fatima Buen Story, Bulaklak sa City Jail, Condemned, Halimaw sa Banga, Mortal, Babae sa Bubungang Lata, Pangarap ng Puso and Sisa (tho the Cinema One version will be cut (tho I do remember a screening where Sisa was shown uncut--female pubic hair on Cinema One!), Mga Bilanggong Birhen (which I prefer over Oro, Plata), and the wonderful, wonderful Kastilyong Buhangin.
Noel was Alma not wasted on MGA BILANGGONG BIRHEN, is it really good?
Sounds like Peter Weir's PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK......the movie I mean.
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yup its the same house Jo......I noticed it when Charito Solis came out in SRR screaming outside.....you can't notice it at first because the atmosphere inside was rather dark and creepy.
is it somewhere in QC kaya?
Laurice Guillen's AMERICAN ADOBO was disastrous, still have to watch SANTA SANTITA.
what i noticed was that the gate of the house in Shake was on the left side of the frame whereas in Manila By Night it was at the right side of the frame the same as in the other three films i mentioned.
i did enjoy American Adobo... far better than Tanging Ina.
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what i noticed was that the gate of the house in Shake was on the left side of the frame whereas in Manila By Night it was at the right side of the frame the same as in the other three films i mentioned.
i did enjoy American Adobo... far better than Tanging Ina.
That's what I remember man. I could be wrong maybe its about time to watch again my vhs of Shake Rattle & Roll 1.
And hey thanks again for the bunch of dvds Jo. I'll finish my backlog until Saturday. ;)
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Noel was Alma not wasted on MGA BILANGGONG BIRHEN, is it really good?
Sounds like Peter Weir's PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK......the movie I mean.
Heck no; it has no pretenses, unlike Weir's overblown 'experimental' film.
Alma has a small part; she's effective enough. The real protagonists are Mario Montenegro, Leroy Salvador, and, believe it or not, Armida Siguion-Reyna, who is wonderful and, believe it or not, quite beautiful in it--I mean, she practically glows. ;D
It's beautifully shot (one of Romy Vitug's best works), extravagantly produced, and quite lyrical. And it looks with equal measures of sympathy and skepticism at both upper and lower classes, unlike Oro, Plata, which tended to demonize the lower classes.
Sure, you got Ronnie Lazaro, but he feels more like a mythical figure (his name is Hermes, right?) than a real person. In Bilanggong Birhen, you feel the full weight, nobility, and flaws of all the characters, upper and lower classes.
O'Hara disowns it; he was fired near the end of shooting, and he walked away. Romy Suzara finished postroduction, and it shows: the editing is off by about a mile (every O'Hara film has precise editing--every one of them). Flawed, heavily, but still, it's great, great, great.
Nick Deocampo once said Raymond Red was around the age of O'Hara when he directed Sakay (Red was 28; O'Hara 31), which is roughly the same time period (American Occupation), tho O'Hara's production was far more elaborate. Deocampo thought O'Hara did a far better job than Red ever did.
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Romy Vitug always captured the beauty and glows of cinematography but Rody Lacap also did great in Oro. I agree with you regarding Oro's flaws it lies heavily on Joey Reyes' script like the conflict between the two classes, but then it will not reaped the accolades if Melchor (Abbo dela Cruz) didn't massacre the entire household in the MATA section, the disapperance of some of the characters was another flaw but Gallaga's panoramic design of the aristocracy's decline which suggests the title was told effectively.
And the mythical figure yeah fantasy blends also in the movie....I wonder what was the name of the underworld character of Kuh Ledesma?
So BILANGGONG BIRHEN was also a period epic, Noel? And Armida I think she's beautiful also when she's not singing. ;D
I'm now curious to see it. Thanks for all the info about the movie. But then Mario O' Hara shot the film 90% right? Why he disowns it?
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Here are my ten films. It's not at all comprehensive because I know I've forgotten some really wonderful gems. Also, I haven't seen as many Filipino films as I want to (blame it on a lack of sources for these films), or totally forgot if I've seen them (blame it on poor memory) that's why I have no De Leons (saw his unfinished work but it's vague to me), Silos (missed seeing Biyaya ng Lupa) or O'Haras (only have a vague recollection of Bagong Hari. Loved Bakit Bughaw ang Langit but I know that this is not his best work) in my list. Incomplete as it is, here's my top ten list:
Pagdating Sa Dulo
Maynila... Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Itim
Kakabakabakaba
Manila By Night
Himala
Salome
Scorpio Nights
Private Show
Portrait of a Filipino as an Artist
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Was it ascending or descending order indie boi?
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No particular order pre. :)
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indie, you haven't seen Init sa Magdamag? My favorite Guillen, even over Salome.
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So BILANGGONG BIRHEN was also a period epic, Noel? And Armida I think she's beautiful also when she's not singing. ;D
I'm now curious to see it. Thanks for all the info about the movie. But then Mario O' Hara shot the film 90% right? Why he disowns it?
Oro Plata is a masterpiece of design and cinematography, I'll give it that much.
Mario disowns it because he didn't edit it. Editing is perhaps the most unique stage in filmmaking--there's nothing like it in the other arts. Kubrick goes so far as to say he sometimes thinks he shoots films in order to have something to edit.
Editing marks a film as surely as camera moves or overall emotional tone marks many a master filmmaker. Some of the greatest filmmakers--Kurosawa, Fellini, Griffith, Ford, O'Hara, De Leon (Mike and Gerry both), Ad Castillo--show a mastery of editing. It's not a matter of quick cuts; sometimes knowing when to sustain a shot is as important, or more so, and sometimes editing an ordinary dialogue scene is more difficult than editing an action scene (which is why Michael Bay is so recognizably not a master ;D).
Peque I'd say knows how to edit, on the basis of the final shootout in Oro. I just think he needs a better scriptwriter, or a film that doesn't need a strong script (which is why I think Scorpio Nights is the far better film).
I like to say I know if a filmmaker knows what he's doing during when I see how the first five minutes of the film is cut. I usually get it right (or if not right, I at least know the filmmaker has some skill).
O'Hara did not edit Mga Bilanggong Birhen. It's not totally his film, but there are many things in it that are recognizably his--the tone, the shots, the performances.
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Oh, I do remember Init sa Magdamag. Unfortunately that's one of the movies that I never got to see. I never got access to a VHS copy and my mom wouldn't let me watch it on TV then because of the steamy scenes with Lorna Tolentino. I loved the premise of that film though. I hope to find a copy of Init... and all the other Filipino films I've missed.
Oh, let me add to my ten (syempre hindi na top ten, hehe):
1. Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-Itim ng Tagak (I think the only Vilma Santos movie I really really liked, and Celso Kid's camera work here is just divine)
2. Bayaning Third World (De Leon and satire is always a perfect mix)
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Ricky Lee is one of our best scriptwriters churning out great films by the late Lino Brocka & Ishmael Bernal even penned the classic MORAL by Marilou Diaz Abaya but didn't work with Peque though.
Did O'Hara worked with Ricky before Noel?
Pagputi ng uwak that's still on my wish lists indie.
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1. Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-Itim ng Tagak (I think the only Vilma Santos movie I really really liked, and Celso Kid's camera work here is just divine)
Seen Burlesk Queen, indie? It makes even less sense and is, if anything, even more visually poetic. Vilma's even good in it. ;D
Far as I know, Lee and O'Hara's never worked before. O'Hara really collaborated closely with Brocka from 1970 up to around 1978. Lee's first work with Brocka, far as I can remember (someone correct me on this if I'm wrong) is Jaguar, in 1980, with Pete Lacaba.
Lee's got a strong personality; I'd consider Moral more his film than Marilou's.
Mario's worked with Joey Reyes, tho, on Condemned. What happened was, Reyes gave him a script, he didn't like it, he and Frank Rivera rewrote the whole thing. ;D
It's wonderful noir--the best Filipino serial-killer film ever made. Well, it's not just a serial killer film; there's more to it. But it's great...
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So far only ITIM made it on few horror flicks that we have and its not straight horror.
Was Joey Reyes credited on CONDEMNED, Noel? Yup JAGUAR was Ricky Lee's first collaboration with Brocka.
I do remember CONDEMNED but only snippets of it with memorable performance from Ms. Gloria Romero as the villain.
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Burlesk Queen is one of those movies I failed to watch because of the unavilabiltiy of any copies I could watch. Sayang nga because I've heard so much about it. I do remember watching bits and pieces of it on TV when I was a kid and Santos' "dance of death" stuck to my mind. I think Chito Roño cribbed the feel of Burlesk Queen's ending and used it for Private Show.
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So far only ITIM made it on few horror flicks that we have and its not straight horror.
Was Joey Reyes credited on CONDEMNED, Noel? Yup JAGUAR was Ricky Lee's first collaboration with Brocka.
I do remember CONDEMNED but only snippets of it with memorable performance from Ms. Gloria Romero as the villain.
Joey Reyes is credited but it's really O'Hara's and Rivera's work.
Burlesk Queen is so much greater than Private Show I can't even begin to explain why....the difference between a skilled shoemaker and a Faberge jeweler.
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Burlesk Queen is one of those movies I failed to watch because of the unavilabiltiy of any copies I could watch.
The movie is available on VCd. I bought from Manila. Not a great copy though, but still it's better than nothing. Try looking for it on online Pinoy shops. ;D
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Joey Reyes is credited but it's really O'Hara's and Rivera's work.
Burlesk Queen is so much greater than Private Show I can't even begin to explain why....the difference between a skilled shoemaker and a Faberge jeweler.
PRIVATE SHOW has gritty atmosphere and you can actually smell the sweat of the live sex performers and of course Jacklyn Jose's performance is impeccable......BURLESK QUEEN relies on Vilma's charm and performance also......one of her best along with BROKEN MARRIAGE & TAGOS NG DUGO.
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I must admit that I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to Filipino films but I admire our local filmmakers because they can do so much with so little. I just wish that Filipino films would be more available to those, who like me, are very interested in seeing them, but do not have the time, the Betamax or VHS Players. PLEASE restore and bring these films to DVD format.
Anyway, from the very little Pinoy films I've seen, these are the ones I admire:
Insiang
Kisapmata
Bayaning Third World
Magnifico
Keka
Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino
That's all... hehehe, i hope boss keating is happy now...
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I must admit that I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to Filipino films but I admire our local filmmakers because they can do so much with so little. I just wish that Filipino films would be more available to those, who like me, are very interested in seeing them, but do not have the time, the Betamax or VHS Players. PLEASE restore and bring these films to DVD format.
Anyway, from the very little Pinoy films I've seen, these are the ones I admire:
Insiang
Kisapmata
Bayaning Third World
Magnifico
Keka
Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino
That's all... hehehe, i hope boss keating is happy now...
Hey oggs thanks for your lists finally.......once upon a time we are ahead of our Asian counterparts when it comes to Filipino movies...i just wish we can still compete with Hollywood blockbusters like what happened in the 70's and 80's.....our filmmakers have the talent and perseverance to do what they want but censorship, piracy, and other things block the way in achieving this goal......
someday we can still make it.....hopefully..... :)
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PRIVATE SHOW has gritty atmosphere and you can actually smell the sweat of the live sex performers and of course Jacklyn Jose's performance is impeccable
True--far more than Joey Reyes' artsy fartsy Live Show.
But Burlesk Queen is so offhandedly lyrical it's almost no contest--that is a great film, flaws and all. Private Show is merely a very well-made one.
Nice list, oggs. But if you see enough Filipino films , I'll bet Keka (which is good and which I liked, for the record) tends to drop off the list.
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I'll definitely look for a copy of Burlesk Queen next time I go to the mall. Hopefully, I'd still find a copy.
Noel, what can you say about the execrable Burlesk Queen... Ngayon?
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Only that I think it's all the director's fault. Ina Raymundo gives an excellent performance in Jeffrey Jeturian's Tuhog.
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Just finished reading Jessica Zafra's TWISTED 7 Book and she acknowledged again the master of camp in the person of Joey Gosiengfiao and its patron saint Elwood Perez.
She was d a m n right those flicks will never be on the Top Ten Best Filipino Films of All Time but gave credit to Gosiengfiao for coming up with TEMPTATION ISLAND, THE DIARY OF CRISTINA GASTON and other flicks by her quintessential sex symbol, Alma Moreno. Admitted that Perez is much superior filmmaker than Gosiengfiao.
KATORSE is so cheesy and yummy because of
Dina Bonnevie.
UNDERAGE is like watching a toothpaste commercial with some social commentaries thrown in. ;D
Makes me eager to see ZOOM ZOOM SUPERMAN........ ;D
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Jessica Zafra almost forgot and didn't mention ELEKTRIKA in her lists of camp filmography.
Still remember vividly the scene in that surreal flick the mummy chasing
Trixia Gomez......St. Peter, St. John....... ;D
the weirdest Filipino film barnone......;D 8)
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EBOLUSYON IN FILM COMMENT MARCH-APRIL 05 ISSUE (http://journals.aol.com/noelbotevera/MyJournal/entries/727)
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My lists will not be 10 anymore since I'll squeeze HINUGOT SA LANGIT. Can't help to do so since this is the only Filipino film that tackles abortion straight forward and honest.
And Maricel Soriano's best moments are captured by Ishma same with Amy Austria.
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My Top Ten Best movies in any order.
1. Oro Plata Mata
2. Insiang
3. Tinimbang ka, Ngunit kulang
4. Batch 81
5. Bagets
6. Kisapmata
7. Scorpio Nights
8. Himala
9. Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino
10. Dekada 70= because im a talent extra here in this film. :)
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Critics are still raving on Lav Diaz' EBOLUSYON NG ISANG PAMILYANG PILIPINO but I still have to see his much shorter 5 hour masterpiece BATANG WESTSIDE.
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I think Batang West Side is the better film, tho Ebolusyon has its considerable virtues.
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Modified my lists and came up with only TEN plus another five worth to be included. 8)
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the movies mentioned.....kulang pa standing ovation sa upuan he he .....excellent films!!!!!!!
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Here's my top ten, I tried to include everything that I like, chronological, and one film per director...
Sanda Wong
Biyaya ng Lupa
Tinimbang ka Ngunit Kulang
Kung Mangarap ka't Magising
Relasyon
The Best of Dolphy
The Best of Shake, Rattle and Roll
Mahal ko ang Mister Mo
Curacha
Pangarap ng Puso
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There is one movie of Dolphy where he played the devil but I forgot the title. He was great in that flick.
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Now, if only to get at least half of those films mention in dvd so we can all watch it over and over again and keep it and watch it again and show it to others.
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There is one movie of Dolphy where he played the devil but I forgot the title. He was great in that flick.
omeng satanasya ?
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omeng satanasya ?
he won a FAMAS for this one pero ang sabi-sabi ay ibinato lang niya ang trophy sa trunk ng kanyang kotse.... ???
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This is very late, keating.
And this sort of gives away that , second to Bollywood, it's Filipino movies (good ones, that is) that I have seen very little of. Shame, that. But until that changes (and I'm going to make sure it does) here are my faves:
Himala
Insiang
Anino
La Vida Rosa
Kisapmata
Scorpio Nights
Bomba Star
Itim
In no particular order, of course.
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Pangarap ng Puso
Excellent choice! ;D
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omeng satanasya ?
Thanks for the info voj.
To back up loonzhaus post......why did the Comedy King just threw the trophy? ???
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This is very late, keating.
And this sort of gives away that , second to Bollywood, it's Filipino movies (good ones, that is) that I have seen very little of. Shame, that. But until that changes (and I'm going to make sure it does) here are my faves:
Himala
Insiang
Anino
La Vida Rosa
Kisapmata
Scorpio Nights
Bomba Star
Itim
In no particular order, of course.
Hey X how are you man? Just finished reading your blog. I must admit I learned from it.
I'm surprised to know that there is one Gosiengfiao on your lists.
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gorio and tekla
asiong salonga
beatnik
naguumpuganf bato
pitong gatang
kanto girl
2 kalbaryo ni dr.mendez
markado
3 panata
pagdating ng takipsilim
3 magdalena
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That's a very interesting list, diabolik. Care to give us the years and directors of those films?
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gorio and tekla
asiong salonga
beatnik
naguumpuganf bato
pitong gatang
kanto girl
2 kalbaryo ni dr.mendez
markado
3 panata
pagdating ng takipsilim
3 magdalena
these are mostly films from the 50's and early 60's...
as for the directors you have to me some time to check back...
iwas not aware of the prod. crew when i was watching them that time
asiong salonga as you probably know starred
joseph estrada
paquito diaz as turong pajo
vic diaz is totoy golem
3 of the most colorful underworld cjharacters in tundo 1950
beatnik is dolphy/panchito supported by wing duo
naguumpugang bato - joseph/zaldy as brothers
with robert campos, van deleon, anita linda
pitong gatang
fpj/zaldy as brothers this time
kanto girl is lolita rodriquez
3 kalbaryo ni dr. mendez - luis gonzales stars
markado - fpj with the music provided by fred panopio just like pitong gatang
more to follow....
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Thanks for your efforts, and eagerly awaiting the rest. Did you by any chance see these films on their original run, or on tape somewhere?
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I only remember vividly GORIO and TEKLA among the bunch of films listed by diabolik.
It stars the late Chichay during her heyday and her partner unfortunately became also her husband. One of the hilarious scenes in that movie goes like this:
CHICHAY- "nag-aaply ho ako ng trabaho."
MANAGER- "marunong kang magsulat?"
CHICHAY- "hindi ho."
MANAGER- "marunong ka sumagot ng telepono?"
CHICHAY- "hindi rin ho."
MANAGER- "marunong ka mag-Ingles?"
CHICHAY- "lalo ho hindi!"
MANAGER- "tanggap ka na!"
:D :D :D
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I luckily chanced on Beatnik on TV a few months ago. The scene where the "beatniks" emerged from the plane and then Dolphy starts his beat poetry song-and-dance is just too weird for words. It's the beatnik movement distilled through the Filipino sensibilities.
Oh, and I also saw Pitong Gatang on TV too. FPJ as a teen idol was quite refreshing since he hasn't really established any of his "trademarks" yet. I loved the banter between his character and his father -- it was a nice glimpse into family dynamics during that time.
I'd love to get copies of these films. Would you happen to have a copy, Diabolik?
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Would you happen to have a copy, Diabolik?
I was trying to work my way around to asking that!
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my uncle have them in his library...
i watch movies with him whenever we have time...
he collects them...
i collect film memorabilia...
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So you're twenty to thirty years old? Just curious.
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I vaguely remember Beatniks too. And is that Pagdating ng Takipsilim the horror anthology?
Hey there, Keating! Sorry nahuli yung listahan. Hirap punuin ng sampu. Hopefully by 2006, madagdagan ko na yan. Enough to make a Top 30 at least.;D
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Hi there X. Its ok man....your lists will be a great help to me. Too bad you were not around when we watched Ebolusyon at UP Film Institute last time with indie.
Maybe Ebolusyon will be on your lists......... :)
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beatniks is the philippine version of the hippie culture...
the person who practices this live a bohemian
lifestyle, caring only about music, the barkada zoning out
on drugs and liquor...but these were downplayed in the
movie because its a musical comedy film...
pagdating ng takipsilim is a melodramatic love story
starring the gloria/luis tandem...
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I was trying to work my way around to asking that!
me too.......diabolik if you don't mind.....do you have a copy of Celso Ad Castillo's PATAYIN MO SA SINDAK SI BARBARA?
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i dont think we have that film...
our collection focuses on the early filipino films from the 60's
down to the 1800...sori...
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i dont think we have that film...
our collection focuses on the early filipino films from the 60's
down to the 1800...sori...
Okay...let me get this straight...you got prints from before 1939? Prints and not VHS tapes? You plan to contact SOFIA about them?
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i dont think we have that film...
our collection focuses on the early filipino films from the 60's
down to the 1800...sori...
Your uncle might have some goldmine out there....I mean those masterpieces that I haven't watch in my years of existence on Earth.....man.......those are really treasures to find!
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Diabolik, er, do you happen to have a copy of Daigdig ng mga Api? I won't believe it of you do.
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wrong post
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After 48 years, my friend finally returned Joel David's book- Fields of Vision. ;D
Here are some of our filmmakers top choices:
ISHMAEL BERNAL
1. SISA
2. ANAK DALITA
3. KUNDIMAN NG LAHI
4. SAWA SA LUMANG SIMBORYO
5. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
6. BOATMAN
7. BURLESK QUEEN
8. MORAL
9. KISAPMATA
10. GENGHIS KHAN
EDDIE ROMERO
1. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
2. KISAPMATA
3. MANILA BY NIGHT
4. MORAL
5. SCORPIO NIGHTS
6. MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
7. HINUGOT SA LANGIT
8. SALOME
9. TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
10. PARADISE INN
MEL CHIONGLO
1. JAGUAR
2. BATCH '81
3. BONA
4. KISAPMATA
5. HIMALA
6. SALOME
7. MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
8. ORO, PLATA, MATA
9. BURLESK QUEEN
10. SISTER STELLA L
MARILOU DIAZ ABAYA
1. MANILA BY NIGHT
2. THE MOISES PADILLA STORY
3. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
4. KISAPMATA
5. MORAL
6. GANITO KAMI NOON, PAANO KAYO NGAYON
7. BADJAO
LAURICE GUILLEN
1. SISA
2. THE MOISES PADILLA STORY
3. INSIANG
4. ORO, PLATA, MATA
5. SALOME
6. BIYAYA NG LUPA
7. KISAPMATA
8. IFUGAO
9. ANAK DALITA
10. BURLESK QUEEN
one thing in common......they all have Mike De Leon's KISAPMATA on their lists.
8) 8) 8)
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in Marilou & Laurice's case they shouldn't have included their own films... if you'd notice none of the other director's included their own work.
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I noticed that also dude. Too bad Lino Brocka didn't come up with his lists. And if only these films are accessible on dvd.
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I noticed that also dude. Too bad Lino Brocka didn't come up with his lists. And if only these films are accessible on dvd.
unfortunately none of these films are available...
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That makes Mike de Leon's KISAPMATA his best film? ???
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That makes Mike de Leon's KISAPMATA his best film? ???
i guess if it's in all of their list... personally i still think ITIM is his best film.
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I prefer Kisapmata over Itim myself...but that's really splitting hairs, I think; they're both very good films.
David's book was useful for the lists of various people, but his use of statistics to come up with a master list I thought was silly...so Manila By Night comes out on top? Does his being a big fan of the film have nothing to do with it?
It's a great film, Bernal's masterpiece and all, but unspoken considerations like that tend to throw doubt on the process. I think the separate lists are more honest, and more persusasive.
And Romero was one of the few if not the only one who lists Tatlong Taong (no one asked Teddy Co, who back in 1976 rated the film above Insiang). Of course at this time the film wasn't in high favor; I'd say it was only with the 1993 or 1994 screening at Pelikula at Lipunan that the film's reputation started to turn around (Teddy, as usual, was ahead of his time).
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in Marilou & Laurice's case they shouldn't have included their own films... if you'd notice none of the other director's included their own work.
I was surprised to notice these inclusions too. It's so self-serving.
I'd like to know Abaya's top ten now. Would she have included her execrable Rizal to her own top ten list?
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I was surprised to notice these inclusions too. It's so self-serving.
I'd like to know Abaya's top ten now. Would she have included her execrable Rizal to her own top ten list?
i would think so... when i spoke with her when she was here in New York during a screening of Sa Pusod Ng Dagat in 1999, Marilou was so ecstatic about Jose Rizal.
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I prefer Kisapmata over Itim myself...but that's really splitting hairs, I think; they're both very good films.
don't get me wrong... i think Kisapmata is a great film but Itim is not just technically superior, it's also very disturbing. Tommy Abuel's nightmare sequence for one comes to mind, and Susan Valdez' abortion scene add Max Jocson's haunting musical score and the ending whew!
Kisapmata boasts of outstanding performances from Vic Silayan, Charito Solis & Jay Ilagan... a solid script by Doy del Mundo, Racquel Villavicencio & Mike de Leon himself. but watching the movie just recently doesn't give it much impact as Itim still does to this very day or maybe it's just me...
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What are the Best Filipino Films
The 1950s and the 1970s have emerged as the Golden Ages of Philippine cinema in recent times, judging by a poll conducted by Planet Philippines staffers among specialists in films, including directors, poets, screenplay writers, critics, and scholars.
The 1950s were dominated by film masters like the late Lamberto V. Avellana and the late Gerardo de Leon, many of whose films won awards here and abroad. Both became National Artists. Their masterpieces include (Avellana) Anak Dalita, Badjao and Portrait of the Artist as Filipino; and (de Leon) Noli Me Tangera, El Filibusterismo, and Sisa.
Most of the movies then were in black and white, with the better directors receiving their inspiration from Philippine history as well as the contemporary Philippine experience.
Political satire was evident in Juan Tamad Goes to Congress, directed by Manuel Conde, another master, whose Genghis Khan garnered praise from foreign critics and was shown abroad.
By the 1970s, two young directors — Lino Brocka and Ishmael Bernal — became outstanding, turning out a series of memorable films. Brocka megged Manila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag, recently adjudged a classic of world cinema, Insiang, Orapronobis, and other masterworks. Bernal directed Himala, Nunal sa Tubig and City After Dark, to name a few.
Brocka and Bernal, unfortunately died while in their prime, but both became posthumous National Artists. Another director of the 1980s, Mike de Leon, is no longer active these days. His last film, Bayaning Third World, was a critical hit but did not do good business. Cineastes are hoping that de Leon, a recluse, will be persuaded to direct once more.
In between the directors of the 1950s and the 1970s is Eddie Romero, now in his early 70s, who became a National Artist this year. Romero’s most cited film is Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon, a historical drama.
And we have the outstanding directors who continue to make good movies today, like Laurice Guillen (Salome), Marilou Diaz Abaya (Jose Rizal), Chito Roño (Bata Bata, Paano Ka Ginawa), Peque Gallaga (Oro Plata Mata), Joel Lamangan (The Flor Contemplacion Story), Gil Portes (Munting Tinig), Jeffrey Jeturian (Tubog), Lab Diaz (Batang West Side), Maryo de los Reyes (Magni-fico), Jose Javier Reyes (Makati Avenue), and Carlos Siguion Reyna (Azucena).
Here is a list of best Filipino films, as chosen by our respondents:
Lito Casaje
Director
Nunal sa Tubig
Orapronobis
Pagputi ng Uwak, Pag-itim Tagak
Kisapmata
Salome
Maynila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Manila by Night
Tanging Yaman
Sa Pusod ng Dagat
Milagros
Mortal
Anak Dalita
Biyaya ng Lupa
Oro Plata Mata
Tony Espejo
Director
Nunal sa Tubig
Maynila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Kisapmata
Insiang
Itim
Pacifica Falayfay
Tisoy
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Olongapo
Oro Plata Mata
Jose F. Lacaba
Poet-Screenplay Writer
(“I have disqualified films I scripted.”)
Daigdig ng mga Api
Maynila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Himala
Batch ’81
Oro Plata Mata
Nicanor G. Tiongson
Cultural Researcher
Noli Me Tangere
El Filibusterismo
Sisa
Anak Dalita
Portrait of the Artist as Filipino
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Maynila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Orapronobis
Gumapang Ka sa Lusak
Nunal sa Tubig
City After Dark
Himala
Batch ’81
Bayaning 3rd World
Oro Plata Mata
Salome
Moral
Bata Bata, Paano Ka Ginawa?
The Flor Contemplacion Story
Makati Avenue
Azucena
Magnifico
Munting Tinig
Tubog Sa Ginto
Nestor Torre
Columnist-Critic
Maynila: Sa Kuko ng Liwanag
Biyaya ng Lupa
Juan Tamad Goes to Congress
Geron Busabos, Ang Batang Quiapo
Kundiman ng Lahi
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Batch ’81
Sister Stella L.
The Moises Padilla Story
José Rizal
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i would think so... when i spoke with her when she was here in New York during a screening of Sa Pusod Ng Dagat in 1999, Marilou was so ecstatic about Jose Rizal.
Really? Yikes. :o That movie was baaadd.
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Every filmmaker contribute to the growth of Philippine Cinema and each one has what I call their trademark or signature film. Brocka has MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG, Bernal has HIMALA, O'HARA has TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS, Guillen has SALOME, Gallaga has ORO PLATA MATA.
Of course not all of their films are good, there are films that they do just for the sake of money and others because of their love for their profession.
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PEQUE GALLAGA's Best Filipino Flicks: (not necessarily in any particular order from Flip Magazine)
TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
MANILA BY NIGHT
BILIBID BOYS
BURLESK QUEEN
NYMPHA
TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
that's two Brocka, two Bernal, two Castillo and one O'Hara. 8)
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don't get me wrong... i think Kisapmata is a great film but Itim is not just technically superior, it's also very disturbing. Tommy Abuel's nightmare sequence for one comes to mind, and Susan Valdez' abortion scene add Max Jocson's haunting musical score and the ending whew!
It's just me too. We'll meet and have a cup of coffee and argue their relative merits one of these days...
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What are the Best Filipino Films
And we have the outstanding directors who continue to make good movies today, like Laurice Guillen (Salome), Marilou Diaz Abaya (Jose Rizal), Chito Roño (Bata Bata, Paano Ka Ginawa), Peque Gallaga (Oro Plata Mata), Joel Lamangan (The Flor Contemplacion Story), Gil Portes (Munting Tinig), Jeffrey Jeturian (Tubog), Lab Diaz (Batang West Side), Maryo de los Reyes (Magni-fico), Jose Javier Reyes (Makati Avenue), and Carlos Siguion Reyna (Azucena).
Posted this at the pelicula egroups, but I do think there's something reaaally wrong with that list, and the lists that follow (for one obvious reason, considering it's me writing this, and for other less obvious (but no less important) reasons.
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PEQUE GALLAGA's Best Filipino Flicks: (not necessarily in any particular order from Flip Magazine)
TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
MANILA BY NIGHT
BILIBID BOYS
BURLESK QUEEN
NYMPHA
TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
that's two Brocka, two Bernal, two Castillo and one O'Hara. 8)
Bilibid Boys? i don't get it... maybe because he was the movie's production designer?
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It's just me too. We'll meet and have a cup of coffee and argue their relative merits one of these days...
i'll be looking forward to that...
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Bilibid Boys? i don't get it... maybe because he was the movie's production designer?
This also took me by surprise. Could it be because of its pop culture contributions? I remember the title and stars making a big impact when it came out. But then that's too shallow a reason.
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This also took me by surprise. Could it be because of its pop culture contributions? I remember the title and stars making a big impact when it came out. But then that's too shallow a reason.
Maybe indie boi. I was surprised also when Gallaga mentioned that film. I don't even remember it anymore....Gosiengfiao's UNDERAGE is much better. ;D The cast was a bunch of Regal babies dominating the scene during that time.
And no filmmaker mentioned the works of Perez & Gosiengfiao but critic Rafael Guerrero and Jessica Zafra has kind words about those two filmmakers from the 70's. Even Noel noted Gosiengfiao's TEMPTATION ISLAND.
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Not just Temptation Island. I thought Bomba Star with Alma Moreno and Underaged with Dina Bonnevie (did I get actors and titles right?) were hilarious...
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I prefer Kisapmata over Itim myself...but that's really splitting hairs, I think; they're both very good films.
don't get me wrong... i think Kisapmata is a great film but Itim is not just technically superior, it's also very disturbing. Tommy Abuel's nightmare sequence for one comes to mind, and Susan Valdez' abortion scene add Max Jocson's haunting musical score and the ending whew!
Kisapmata boasts of outstanding performances from Vic Silayan, Charito Solis & Jay Ilagan... a solid script by Doy del Mundo, Racquel Villavicencio & Mike de Leon himself. but watching the movie just recently doesn't give it much impact as Itim still does to this very day or maybe it's just me...
I like ITIM also. One of my personal fave and you could actually see the genius of a man behind it. Its a perfect film to watch especially during Good Friday and All Saints Day. And the haunting musical score by Max Jocson was also unforgettable especially at the climax of the movie!
The print that Cinema One shows is already deteriorating, man, another sad story of film prints.
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my top 10:
1. maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag
2. kisapmata
3. amg lalaki sa buhay ni selya
4. brutal
5. manila by night
6. oro plata mata
7. itim
8. tinimbang ka ngunit kulang
9. karnal
10. ligaya ang itawag mo sa akin
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There's another top local films thread somewhere here. You may want to look it up. :)
Interesting though that you chose Ligaya as one of your top ten films.
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I think they mean THIS thread.
Mods, can you combine the two? Thanks!
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ANG BOYFRIEND KONG KANO
1983/Golden Dragon Films/Maryo J. De Los Reyes
Walang kubeta sa probinsya? Sayawan sa Plaza?Kailan ka huling kumain ng buong balut?
EKIS
1999/Viva Films/Erik Matti
Sanay tayo na ang kontrabida ay pangit? Unusual action sequences for a Filipino movie.
HAPLOS
1982/Mirick Films/Antonio Jose Perez
...'Di ipagpapalit ang multo ni Rio Locsin, wala nang iba para sa akin...
ISKUL BUKOL The Movie
1980/GP Films/Mike Relon Makiling
Pinoy College is Kodigo, Bulakbol, Beerhouse. Back to reality ka lang tuwing Xmas Break.
KADETE
1979/Agrix Films/Emmanuel H. Borlaza
Mga Black Sheep ng mga Pamilyang Deputado, isama mo pa ang mga graduates ng Boystown at Seminaryo-Eyer,Mistah for Life.
LA VISA LOCA
2005/Unitel Pictures/Mark Meily
Natuto nang umarte si Rhobin! Iyong Child Actor hindi na kinailangang umiyak o kumanta para maipakita ang galing sa pag-arte bilang isang bata.
PAGBABALIK NG LAWIN
1975/FPJ Productions/Ronwaldo Reyes
Karagatan, Mga Isla, Kuweba, Sandamukal na Extrang mga Alipin, Treasure Hunt, Mala palasyong mga bahay-sa Pilipinas lang kinunan lahat yan.
PEDRO TUNASAN
1983/LL Productions/Celso Ad. Castillo
Bigyan mo ako ng anak na Tisoy, para hindi na muling apihin ang angkan kong kayumanggi.
PIETA
1984/Amazaldy Films/Carlo J. Caparas
Mula komiks, hanggang sa pelikula, kahit sa tunay na buhay, kukunsintihin ka ng nanay mo kahit kriminal ka.
SANA MAULIT MULI
1995/Star Cinema/Olivia M. Lamasan
Mangingibang bansa ka para magpa-alipin sa kapwa mo Pilipino, nang dahil lang sa pag-ibig.
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Noel, what do you think of LA VISA LOCA?
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Have not seen it yet. I do like Robin Padilla; Joyce Bernal made me a convert.
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Give them the right project and they can deliver the goods especially Joyce Bernal. Bernal should be given straight serious projects. Her narrative in those comedy films are perfect.
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I've seen her Buhay Kamao; she should maybe avoid boxing. I'd like to see her do something serious, but what she does now is so rare I'm glad even if she sticks to that: the well-made light romantic comedy. And she has a gift for it; I'm not sure she has a gift for anything darker, or more dramatic.
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Let her try those other genres, Noel. Its like flexing her muscles to other stuff.
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She's tried; she hasn't done that well. Let her try more, of course, but I do appreciate her romantic comedies.
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I've seen her Buhay Kamao; she should maybe avoid boxing. I'd like to see her do something serious, but what she does now is so rare I'm glad even if she sticks to that: the well-made light romantic comedy. And she has a gift for it; I'm not sure she has a gift for anything darker, or more dramatic.
She's definitely better than Nora Ephron who did all those Meg Ryan romantic comedies.
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Shoot, Ephron's overrated as a writer, and she directs as if movies were coloring books. My dead grandmother is a better filmmaker now than Ephron ever was.
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Ephron's films are more of kindergarten stuff. ;D
Give Joyce Bernal a straight horror film, no comic relief and let's see what she can do.
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Comedy horror!
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Not just Temptation Island. I thought Bomba Star with Alma Moreno and Underaged with Dina Bonnevie (did I get actors and titles right?) were hilarious...
These three films are undoubtedly the best works of Joey Gosiengfiao. I'll ask Teddy Co this weekend for his lists.
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I'll amend my lists after I saw finally O'Hara's TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS on vhs. And there are more to squeeze on my lists, MORAL, SALOME & INSIANG.
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Was Tatlong Taong recorded off Cinema One? That version has cuts...
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I borrowed the tape from Video 48, Noel. Yup it was recorded from Cinema One. Didn't check Jojo's copy though. I presume he has the complete version.
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Watch Jojo's copy. Or better yet, see it on the big screen. It's not colored, anymore, tho, or so I hear--apparently, it's monochromatic, now.
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Watch Jojo's copy. Or better yet, see it on the big screen. It's not colored, anymore, tho, or so I hear--apparently, it's monochromatic, now.
Noel... yours is on the way. ;)
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Thanks! I'm curious about the Japan Foundation funded print, tho--what does it look like in, oh, black and white or shades of amber?
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Watch Jojo's copy. Or better yet, see it on the big screen. It's not colored, anymore, tho, or so I hear--apparently, it's monochromatic, now.
What's monochromatic, man? One color scheme? Too bad, I didn't check Jojo's copy. His copy of Bernal's HIMALA and Mike de Leon's ITIM, KISAPMATA are the most stunning print I ever saw!
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Jojo's copy I'm assuming is in color--that was the state of the ABS CBN's master copy. The safety print made out of the last deteriorating print of Tatlong Taong has lost its colors, I hear. I hear it's improved the film, but I'd like to see that for myself.
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Sad to hear that Noel, about the state of film preservation here in our country. The one that they shown at Pelikula was I think copied also from the vhs, not the original master print.
Did NV productions sold their original master print at Abs-Cbn also?
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Jojo should be able to answer that. I suspect it just hung around in the CCP archive, and when they need permission to show the print, they look for Nora.
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What Oro, Plata, Mata failed because of so many characters, TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS was able to accomplish. Both are epic in proportion.
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Peque was awesome in Tatlong Taong, by the way. That scene he has alone with Nora where he tries to explain Christopher's nature, he uses his lack of facility with Tagalog to make the moment even more moving--he has to feel his way through an unfamiliar language, while feeling his way through Nora's complex emotions.
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Sad to hear that Noel, about the state of film preservation here in our country. The one that they shown at Pelikula was I think copied also from the vhs, not the original master print.
Did NV productions sold their original master print at Abs-Cbn also?
most of the prints of NV produced films have been burned along with the theater that Nora owned in Bicol. that's why there are no existing copies of Carmela, Paru-Parong Itim & Super Gee to name a few. the only surviving print of Tatlong Taon was found lying in a storage room at Nora's Valencia residence. i have no idea how the CCP got it. some say Pearl Valdez sold the print for a large sum of money.
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Jojo should be able to answer that. I suspect it just hung around in the CCP archive, and when they need permission to show the print, they look for Nora.
we're trying to get the print restored with brand new subtitles Noel for the 30th anniversary of the second golden age of Philippine cinema. the problem is government funding. they won't even shoulder the expenses on the restoration work for Insiang. Unitel wanted to pay for them but Ruby Tiong Tan won't give them the rights to release the movie. same with Tatlong Taon. the print is in really bad shape. it's almost black & white. the colors have faded, there are certain portions when you can hardly hear the sound. you cannot even appreciate the brilliance of Conrado Baltazar's cinematography. the copy i have is in much better shape, at least it's still in color.
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Peque was awesome in Tatlong Taong, by the way. That scene he has alone with Nora where he tries to explain Christopher's nature, he uses his lack of facility with Tagalog to make the moment even more moving--he has to feel his way through an unfamiliar language, while feeling his way through Nora's complex emotions.
Yeah, Mario O'Hara was able to bring out the best in him. He's proud of his accomplishment in TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS.
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Sino po dito mayroong copy ng "Hinugot Sa Langit", "Galawgaw" and "Underage"? Pls. email me at [email protected]
Thank you very much! :)
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bat di niyo gawing poll ito para malaman natin sa botohan kung sino talaga ang top ten,
based on the number of votes
or gayahin natin ang rankings ng imdb.com na top 250 movies of all time all
over the world
para malaman natin kung pang ilan ang mga personal choices natin.....kung marunong lang akong gumawa ng poll sa internet para sa botohan, ako na mismo ang gagawa.
sana me masipag na mag volunteer sa mga magaling dyan sa computer
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same with Tatlong Taon. the print is in really bad shape. it's almost black & white. the colors have faded, there are certain portions when you can hardly hear the sound. you cannot even appreciate the brilliance of Conrado Baltazar's cinematography.
What I know from CCP is that they went for a compromise--a safety print made off of that positive, one copy in Fukuoka, one with CCP. The colors are gone, I've heard claims it 'looks more like a period film now,' but I haven't seen that safety print.
What you're talking about sounds like a full restoration of the original positive?
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TOP TEN
Hinugot Sa Langit
Ikaw Pa Lang Ang Minahal
Bona
Bata, Bata, Paano Ka Ginawa?
Himala
Kaya Kong Abutin Ang Langit
Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Temptation Island
Katorse
:)
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Sino po dito mayroong copy ng "Hinugot Sa Langit", "Galawgaw" and "Underage"? Pls. email me at [email protected]
Thank you very much! :)
Check out the archive of Cinema One, butsoy. They usually show the classics at 3pm. I think they should reformat their programming. The prime time sked are mostly mediocre films.
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How come no one's even considering Rizal? It's a good one for me and I've heard it got good reviews from Clinton. I also liked the conversations in an old Dindo Fernando film (Tubig at Langis???) with Vilma Santos and Amy Austria, a movie about polygamy.
Jologs is good for its being non-linear. Pasiyam was effective and somewhat believable (Mother's Revenge)
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TOP TEN
Hinugot Sa Langit
Ikaw Pa Lang Ang Minahal
Bona
Bata, Bata, Paano Ka Ginawa?
Himala
Kaya Kong Abutin Ang Langit
Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang
Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon?
Temptation Island
Katorse
:)
Only few people notice the artistry of Joey Gosiengfiao. Yeah, TEMPTATION ISLAND is his best work, check out also NYMPHA, BOMBA STAR & UNDERAGE.
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Rizal films (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/11)
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bat di niyo gawing poll ito para malaman natin sa botohan kung sino talaga ang top ten,
based on the number of votes
or gayahin natin ang rankings ng imdb.com na top 250 movies of all time all
over the world
para malaman natin kung pang ilan ang mga personal choices natin.....kung marunong lang akong gumawa ng poll sa internet para sa botohan, ako na mismo ang gagawa.
sana me masipag na mag volunteer sa mga magaling dyan sa computer
Uebetan can you post your top ten lists?
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What I know from CCP is that they went for a compromise--a safety print made off of that positive, one copy in Fukuoka, one with CCP. The colors are gone, I've heard claims it 'looks more like a period film now,' but I haven't seen that safety print.
What you're talking about sounds like a full restoration of the original positive?
it is a full restoration of the original positive. the problem is the cost... it's too expensive! we really need help. the efforts we are exerting for this to push through is not enough.
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Yeah, calculated the cost once, maybe in 1999--roughly two or so million pesos. If it were digital restoration, it would be a million dollars.
Have you seen the Japan Foundation safety print?
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How come no one's even considering Rizal?
It's not really a good movie. It's too masturbatory. It's all about Abaya stroking her ego thinking that with a big enough budget and an epic scope she can make the Great Filipino Film. She fell far short of her grandiose goals.
No offense of course to Abaya fans. :)
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Montano was just a zombie delivering his monologue on that Rizal flick. The supporting cast though were good especially Jaime Fabregas.
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Actually, Fabregas blew Montano off the screen. His final statement was more moving, more dramatic. Even his Spanish was better.
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Assuming Montano did a terrible job as Rizal (if I'm not mistaken he won the best Actor award on this one) it does not bring the whole film down. It succeeded in its story telling which is first and foremost (for me) the yardstick from which to judge whether a film is worthwhile or not.
Assuming Montano did a terrible job (which imho he did not, did you even see the stillborn child burial scene? If his performance on this scene didn't touch a nerve, I don't know what will) there were "still" other notable performances in the film, one of which you mentioned was Jaime Fabregas and my other pick, Gloria Diaz.
Montano had to play Rizal and if his transformation wasn't satisfactory for you, well I for one gave him a more forgiving performance rating. Who the F knows how to play Rizal? Who and where will you base it from? The man is dead for more than a century!Montano played Rizal as a compassionate man, a man passionate about family, women, science, country and to a lesser degree(unfortunately for this movie) about religion. He was successful in displaying an aura of bravado BUT was also able to exhibit vulnerability and wisdom for non-conformity to violence.
If the only benchmark from which to judge Montano's performance is on how he delivered his foreign monologues then I say let's strip him off of all the awards he got for this film but I believe that the award giving BODIES were not as narrow minded when they gave him his accolades.
Here are the awards and nominations won by this film:
Awards and nominations
Winner of 16 awards at the 1998 Metro Manila Film Festival including Best Picture, Best Actor (Cesar Montano), Best Director (Marilou Diaz-Abaya), Best Supporting Actor (Jaime Fabregas), Best Supporting Actress (Gloria Diaz), Best Screenplay (Ricardo Lee, Jun Lana and Peter Ong Lim), Best Original Story (Ricardo Lee, Jun Lana and Peter Ong Lim), Best Cinematography (Rody Lacap), Best Editing (Jess Navarro and Manet A. Dayrit), Best Sound (Albert Michael Idioma of Road Runner), Best Production Design (Leo Abaya), Best Special Effects (Mark Ambat of Optima Digital), Best Makeup (Denni Yrastorza Tan), Best Musical Score (Nonong Buencamino) , Best Movie Theme Song (Nonong Buencamino for "Awit ni Maria Clara") and Best Festival Float. The movie was also a recipient of Gatpuno Antonio J. Villegas Cultural Award.
Winner of 11 awards at the 1999 FAMAS Awards including Best Picture, Best Actor (Cesar Montano), Best Director (Marilou Diaz-Abaya), Best Supporting Actor (Jaime Fabregas), Best Cinematography (Rody Lacap), Best Editing (Jess Navarro and Manet A. Dayrit), Best Movie Theme Song (Nonong Buencamino for "Awit ni Maria Clara"), Best Musical Direction (Nonong Buencamino), Best Production Design (Leo Abaya), Best Screenplay (Ricardo Lee, Jun Lana and Peter Ong Lim) and Best Special Effects (Rolando Santo Domingo).
Winner of 6 awards at the 1999 Gawad-Urian Awards including Best Direction (Marilou Diaz-Abaya), Best Cinematography (Rody Lacap), Best Music (Nonong Buencamino), Best Production Design (Leo Abaya), Best Sound (Albert Michael Idioma) and Best Supporting Actor (Jaime Fabregas).
Winner of 8 awards at the 1999 Star Awards for Movies including Movie of the Year, Actor of the Year (Cesar Montano), Director of the Year (Marilou Diaz-Abaya, Supporting Actor of the Year (Jaime Fabregas), Adapted Screenplay of the Year (Ricardo Lee, Jun Lana and Peter Ong Lim), Editor of the Year (Jess Navarro and Manet A. Dayrit), Musical Scorer of the Year (Nonong Buencamino), Production Designer of the Year (Leo Abaya) and Sound Engineering of the Year (Albert Michael Idioma).
It has been screened and in competition in different film festivals worldwide and included in the Official Selection for Panorama in the Berlin International Film Festival (1998). It also won 2nd runner-up in the Audience Award of the Toronto Filmfest.
If this film is a product of Diaz-Abaya's MASTURBATORY style in film direction, I say she should indulge in her self more ;D
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Oh, awards--well, ask Jojo de Vera about the credibility of the Urian/Famas/what have you re: Himala.
And check out Albert Martinez's stillborn child scene in Rizal sa Dapitan; same scene, less fuss. In fact, Montano seems to have lifted the idea of how to play the scene from Martinez.
Full disclosure: I'm not a disinterested observer; I was involved with the writing of Rizal sa Dapitan. That said, it's not my favorite Rizal film, there is another.
As for interesting Rizals--I think Gardo Verzosa's in Mario O'Hara's Sisa is profanely sexual, earthy, and in the end, far more moving. And Joel Torre's Rizal in Mike de Leon's Bayaning Third World is fascinatingly opaque--you don't know what he's thinking about, and you badly want to.
Mike de Leon was right abouth Diaz-Abaya--she doesn't have the depth to comprehend Rizal.
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Marilou Diaz Abaya should go back to small films and fleshing out again those feminist angst that became her trademark. Saw MORAL last night and I would say again and again, its her best film.
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My favorite film of hers is May Nagmamahal sa Iyo. Most moving, anyway. Moral's very good, but I thought it was more Ricky Lee's film...
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You can watch MORAL anytime, in the middle or some other portions of the film and you can still grasp the whole narrative of the movie. The four characters are not left behind mainly because you are right Noel, Ricky Lee's terrific script.
As for the award giving bodies, well, they all lost their credibility when none of them noticed Nora's portrayal in Bernal's HIMALA. Another case of time will tell as you always say.
And one thing more, the critics whom I considered the barometer of award-giving bodies, didn't get Montano's nod for his portrayal of Rizal.
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"time will tell" or "awards are a result of compromise and politics."
Even the Oscars. Ask Klaus Weasley about that award-gviing body...
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Yes, I believe they are but when other people notices I think their opinions should also be respected and NOT hijack yourselves psychologically thinking your opinions are the only ones that matter.
Himala was lambasted by the award giving bodies locally(but not all) but it got recognition outside. Are you now going to say that foreign award giving bodies are the only legit of their kind (how about the Oscars?) or are we going to put them all under one category-CRAP?
Himala was beaten out locally by a film (Relasyon) directed by Bernal and written by Lee (correct me if I'm wrong) who also happens to be the same duo who did Himala. If Himala was so "up there", I guess it's only logical that the same people who did it are the ones who can (and did) UPMAN it...
...or is this another Nora Aunor vs. Vilma Santos thing because if it is, I'm out.
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Posting contradictory opinions about films does not mean you are "psychologically thinking your opinions are the only ones that matter". This is a forum after all and you are subjecting your opinion to a marketplace of ideas. It shouldn't surprise you that people may have a different opinion about the films that you love. It doesn't mean that since some people here did not like Rizal it would automatically mean that they are trying to change your opinions about the film. Take it for what it is -- an opinion and yours is as valid as anyone else's.
Having said that, I think Himala is loads better than Relasyon. And as I've also said so many times before the quality of a film is not measured by how many awards it has received or the size of its box office receipts. If that were the case then film buffs and critics would be worshipping at the altar of James Cameron and the Church of Titanic -- and that's a religion I have no plans of joining.
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or are we going to put them all under one category-CRAP?
This I agree with.
If you read around, strong opinions happen up and down this thread; only thing to do is fight for it, if you've got the determination. I'm willing to listen and consider; and just as willing to give out my opinion if I don't agree.
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"I didn't liked Rizal" was WAY different from
It's not really a good movie
You have categorized it like a critic and by doing so you have placed yourself in a position of expertise whose credentials and qualifications I have no idea of.
You said that Rizal was not "really" a good movie, the whys and hows you have failed to explain. Ah, I forgot, it's too masturbatory and of course your basis is what again?
If awards and box office receipts are not measurements of the quality of film then I guess you are not a fan of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy neither. ;D
Initially, I said that Rizal was good for me as well as Clinton. I just used the list of awards it won and (thanks to your box office hint) the fact that it became the most successful filipino film (box-officewise) to prove that I wasn't just being hysterical about the film, a lot of other people shared the same assessment (or was it mass hysteria? ;D)
I liked Rizal because of how it was presented, the acting performances, editing, cinematography, the freshness it gave the two books etc. The fact that it was given so many awards and did "well" in the box office were only secondary and supportive.
One of my all time favorites is Seven by Brad Pitt and the great Morgan Freeman.The film never won major awards (if it even won any) and can be considered a flop in the box office.
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Not a big fan of Se7en but it's an interesting choice, and I'm cool with that.
If awards and box office receipts are not measurements of the quality of film then I guess you are not a fan of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy neither.
How'd you guess?
As for explanations--posted an article upthread. I explain plenty there.
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Sir Noel, I don't think that you and indie boi are the same posters because if you are then congratulations for making 10,000 posts but seriously it's mighty fine with me if you BOTH share the same tastes and opinion about the matter.
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We are not saying that JOSE RIZAL was a complete crap, opinions really matter in this thread. I'm not a fan of Nora either, its only now that I'm discovering the gems of this great artist. There is still a brilliant moment in RELASYON, that particular scene wherein Vilma doesn't know what to do when Boyet was dying and Bernal didn't cut the scene was one of the shining moments in the movie.
But when you look back, Nora's portrayal was much heavy and riveting. Bernal even admitted on interviews when he was still alive that its a very difficult part to reckon with.
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Me and indie boi one and the same? You flatter us both, sir! ;D
Always maintained that Vilma played a character, Nora an icon in their respective films (Relasyon vs. Himala). Ever since I've been kind of developing a more complex position on the issue, something I wrote about for that Nora concert program and the tribute book.
Oh heck--here's an excerpt:
This lack of ego is nowhere more evident than in what possibly is her most celebrated role, that of Elsa in Ishmael Bernal's "Himala." It's often cited as her finest performance; I disagree, but for a special reason. I believe the film never dives deep into Elsa's character, or makes us identify completely with her--and this, I think, was completely intentional on Bernal's part. He uses Nora as a kind of focal point, a lens through which the different townsfolk (who are almost all more sharply delineated than she) project their various fantasies and fears--an icon, in short. Nora's Elsa for them is, alternately, a charlatan, a saint, a sex object, a target, a booming religious industry; none of them quite see her as a person, and neither do we. It's a remarkably selfless performance, totally dependent on the filmmaker's concept of the film; when Bernal said that only Nora was capable of playing Elsa, he was right, but in a particular way--I doubt if any other star of comparable standing would have allowed that to be done to her.
("Nora: Through the Years…" a souvenir program for Ms. Aunor's Grand Reunion concert, April 24-25, 2004)
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I prefer Vilma in BROKEN MARRIAGE, incidentally another Bernal masterpiece. Her argument with Boyet in that film was priceless. She's more riveting in those dialogue-driven movies. While Nora is remarkable in less dialogue-driven films.
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I can't remember much of Broken Marriage; it's Relasyon I remember. But Broken's rep seems better than Relayson's (at least, I've heard people preferring one over the other), and I did see Relasyon several times, Broken only once.
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You should see BROKEN MARRIAGE again, Noel. Vilma was really brilliant in this one. Maybe because of HIMALA, the reputation of RELASYON seems to die down.
Jose Carreon's script was genuinely witty and powerful.
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Oh, one more reason why Relasyon's so memorable--I know who it's based on. ;D
But yeah--I should see Broken Marriage again. I do remember thinking it's one of Bernal's best.
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Thanks for sharing about that, Noel. Was the other person involved a prominent one also? ;)
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"I didn't liked Rizal" was WAY different from You have categorized it like a critic and by doing so you have placed yourself in a position of expertise whose credentials and qualifications I have no idea of.
You said that Rizal was not "really" a good movie, the whys and hows you have failed to explain. Ah, I forgot, it's too masturbatory and of course your basis is what again?
If awards and box office receipts are not measurements of the quality of film then I guess you are not a fan of the Lord of the Rings Trilogy neither. ;D
Initially, I said that Rizal was good for me as well as Clinton. I just used the list of awards it won and (thanks to your box office hint) the fact that it became the most successful filipino film (box-officewise) to prove that I wasn't just being hysterical about the film, a lot of other people shared the same assessment (or was it mass hysteria? ;D)
I liked Rizal because of how it was presented, the acting performances, editing, cinematography, the freshness it gave the two books etc. The fact that it was given so many awards and did "well" in the box office were only secondary and supportive.
One of my all time favorites is Seven by Brad Pitt and the great Morgan Freeman.The film never won major awards (if it even won any) and can be considered a flop in the box office.
I had promised myself that I will not write anything substantial this holy week because frankly I've been writing too much for the last year that my body is practically begging me not to touch a keyboard even for just three days. But I feel that Atomicat's response may be worth the exception.
Regarding my comment about Rizal, whether I said I didn't like it or I said it was not good, to me the thought is the same. It's just semantics, really.
I also think that I have mentioned the reasons why I didn't like Abaya's Rizal -- most telling of which was what I had called her masturbatory goals. I call it for what it is and make no apologies for my opinions. If you want meatier reasons, here's my laundry list of complaints: Poor acting with regards to Montano and even Gloria Diaz (Pen Medina and Jaime Fabregas were so much more effective!), very loose editing (it could've been made tighter), hit and miss cinematography (there were some nice moments but overall it was all about ego again especially that establishing shot of a building where they had to use special effects to make the sky unusually blue!), and most of all the confusing hodgepodge script. I am not going to say that I am a critic because I am not. But I do have my own opinions about films and if sharing my opinion makes me a critic then I'd gladly accept the label. When it comes to good film critiques though I just read the posts of Noel and X44, I may not agree with some of their reviews but that's what makes an online forum so vibrant. You get to read different views about the films that you've seen that it ultimately enriches you and your knowledge of this art form that we all love.
Lest it be said that I am an Abaya hater let me categorically say that I loved both Karnal and Moral, although Noel has introduced a new perspective towards those two films -- being that they are more Lee's films than Abaya's, which I have come to agree with. Heck, I think I even remember reading a post from Noel saying that Abaya's Sensual is one of her better works -- a film that I absolutely hated. Again, different opinions.
Lastly, if you feel personally offended that Rizal has met with negative comments in this thread well then I say there is no intention to offend you. These are just opinions plain and simple. As Noel said, you are free to defend your opinion but this also allows me the freedom to maintain mine. And that Among the three Rizal movies -- Abaya's was the worst. Aguiluz's Rizal sa Dapitan (I loved it for its quiet restraint) and de Leon's Bayaning Third World (for its innovative deconstruction of our national hero) are better films in my opinion.
Oh, and my favorite film of all time is a toss up among Kurosawa's Ran, Brocka's Maynila Sa Kuko ng Liwanag and Kieslowski's White. And thanks for thinking that I'm Noel Vera. ;D
Now I go back to my much deserved vacation away from my keyboard...
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Hey indie you deserved a much needed vacation. That RIZAL flick is stressing you out. ;D I'll probably amend again my lists, not for RIZAL but for Lino Brocka's ORAPRONOBIS.
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Orapronobis is really good pre. A bit over the top as Brocka goes but good nonetheless. Great script from Sir Pete Lacaba, I really fully appreciated his skills when I saw this film. I had the opportunity to watch Orapronobis during the centennial film festival in greenbelt.
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I'm currently watching ORAPRONOBIS, indie boi. Brocka's films are always filled with oppression, struggle and political alienation. I have yet to see a Bernal movie that has parallelisms to Brocka's political sufferings. I have so much hope for this movie, maybe even better than Lacaba's KAPIT SA PATALIM: BAYAN KO & SISTER STELLA L.
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Thanks for sharing about that, Noel. Was the other person involved a prominent one also? ;)
The person involved wouldn't tell me the name. I do know the other person was married. And that Relasyon is the original (and better) Brokeback Mountain.
Oops. Think I said too much. ;D
indie, you should check out O'Hara's Sisa. I like Gardo there, and he was awful--well, he was hilarious--as Bonifacio in Abaya's Rizal.
Actually I don't remember liking Sensual; either you're thinking of someone else or I wasn't clear about what I said. I do think Abaya's the worst director in the world when it comes to sensuality--cannot create a single erotic image, and when she tries it falls painfully flat (compare her to Laurice Guillen, who's a far more talented filmmaker, in my opine). I'm thinking of both Sensual and Milagros (Sharmaine Arnaiz dancing half-naked, then sharing herself with three men. I felt nothing; nada) and any number of times she's tried in her other films.
I think Brutal and Moral are representative of the best of Lee's work; I like Brutal okay (except again, I think Abaya misses getting an authentic feel in Austria's story at several points, but gets Charo's story pitch-perfect), think Moral is a terrific Lee film. I suppose Karnal is also more Lee, but it's a side of him I don't like--historical/dramatic pastiche that's a touch more hysterical (and unintentionally funny) than I can take.
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my top ten:
genghis khan
jose rizal
maynila sa kuko ng liwanag
sigaw
yamacrapa: the tiger's treasure
kahit konting pagtingin
imelda
anak ng bulkan {the original version}
darna {the original version}
panday} tied
goodfather} tied
tuko sa madre cacao} tied
captain barbell} [original version of bob soler?] tied
not in particular order and i can't remember if there are movies that i have inadvertently ommitted
and/or left out
dont' believe in too much dramas coz they are not the only things which would make a movie great...di lang iyakan ang criterion para maging maganda ang movie...........
we also have e.g. production values, number of actors-mas mahirap mag direct ng maraming cast, galing ng pagkuha ng camera......
look at rashomon, the initial chapter when takashi shimura was walking through the forest , d nagsasalita pero alam mo na maganda na agad ang pelikula
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LOL I didn't think indie boi and Noel Vera are one! ;D
Totally misread that post. I was going sarcastic (yes, anger's ugly cousin) because every reply I posted for indie boi was answered by Noel Vera as if he was the one I was...got the picture? Dang, to think I even used the quote tool. Nevermind.
To all AWARDS non-believers, I just would like to share that another one of my all time favorite films is PULP FICTION, plenty of awards. Tell me you also didn't like this one.
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Almost every person has Brocka's MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG on their lists.
Was the flashback scenes effective in BRUTAL, Noel? I only read the book of that film but never got the chance to see the movie because of its availability.
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I think the flashbacks in Brutal would be more effective if they were erotic. Instead, they seem to be a feminist's cartoonish idea of brutalization, not the real thing.
Pulp Fiction is fun, "Jean Luc Godard Lite" for the audiences. My favorite Tarantino is Jackie Brown.
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Maybe the saving grace of Abaya's BRUTAL was the great performances of Amy Austria & Gina Alajar.
Cherie Gil was also considered for the role of Cynthia which Gina got.
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They're good, but Charo Santos' character was the most convincing. I think it's because she's closest to what the director knows and is familiar with.
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Charo Santos role was inspired by thinking woman roles by Jane Fonda during that time.
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The person involved wouldn't tell me the name. I do know the other person was married. And that Relasyon is the original (and better) Brokeback Mountain.
Oops. Think I said too much. ;D
indie, you should check out O'Hara's Sisa. I like Gardo there, and he was awful--well, he was hilarious--as Bonifacio in Abaya's Rizal.
Actually I don't remember liking Sensual; either you're thinking of someone else or I wasn't clear about what I said. I do think Abaya's the worst director in the world when it comes to sensuality--cannot create a single erotic image, and when she tries it falls painfully flat (compare her to Laurice Guillen, who's a far more talented filmmaker, in my opine). I'm thinking of both Sensual and Milagros (Sharmaine Arnaiz dancing half-naked, then sharing herself with three men. I felt nothing; nada) and any number of times she's tried in her other films.
I think Brutal and Moral are representative of the best of Lee's work; I like Brutal okay (except again, I think Abaya misses getting an authentic feel in Austria's story at several points, but gets Charo's story pitch-perfect), think Moral is a terrific Lee film. I suppose Karnal is also more Lee, but it's a side of him I don't like--historical/dramatic pastiche that's a touch more hysterical (and unintentionally funny) than I can take.
Sisa's in my list of must-see movies, Noel. Along with Babae sa Bubungang Lata, Babae sa Breakwater, and Bagong Hari. Unfortunately, I still can't find a copy of any O'Hara film locally. The only available O'Hara DVD that's available is Fatima Buen but I have a strict no-buy policy of anything with Chlamydia Queen on it, hehe. But I'm seriously reconsidering that policy though as I haven't seen an O'Hara since Bulaklak ng City Jail and Halimaw sa Banga.
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Locally you mean Manila? If you check the papers they'll show them once in a while--Pelikula at Lipunan, or that Intramuros video festival, I'm blanking out on the name here. Even UP film center shows them once in a while.
Ironically, they may be easier to get in the US, where VCDs are available from online. But doesn't Kabayan central ship locally as well?
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The O'Hara classics occasionally shows at Cinema One, indie boi. :)
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The O'Hara classics occasionally shows at Cinema One, indie boi. :)
I've never chanced on it. Whenever I go to Cinema One I only see those bad action movies or those teeny bopper flicks. I'll keep a more vigilant eye next time. Thanks!
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They're full of cuts, especially the more violent and sexually explicit ones, but that's better than nothing. That said, Sky One, the monthly cable schedule of Cinema One, was always required reading for me.
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I've never chanced on it. Whenever I go to Cinema One I only see those bad action movies or those teeny bopper flicks. I'll keep a more vigilant eye next time. Thanks!
They usually show the classics at 3pm or at midnight sometimes. Don't bother their primetime sked, the movies are not really good. And yeah their films now are badly mutilated and mangled. But as Noel said, that's better than nothing. They show Abaya's MORAL before with few cuts. ;)
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My fave movies in order:
1. Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
2. Insiang
3. Dung-aw
4. Maynila...
5. "Bukas Madilim Bukas" in Tatlo Dalawa Isa
6. Kung Mangarap Ka't Magising
7. Itim
8. Kisapmata
9. Oro, Plata, Mata
10. City After Dark
11. Scorpio Nights
12. Nunal sa Tubig
Guilty pleasures:
1. Huwag Tularan: Pito ang Asawa Ko
2. Ishma's Tisoy
3. Banaue
4. Magkaribal
5. The Pugo-Bentot-Eddie San Jose series -- Nukso nang Nukso
6. Batu-Bato sa Langit
7. "Impakta" segment of "Lipad Darna Lipad"
8. Laruang Apoy
9. High School Circa '65
10. Gumising Ka, Maruja
11. Kamakalawa
12. Hello, Goodnight, Goodbye -- the Tina Revilla-Christopher de Leon segment
What's the title of the LVN (?) movie where the main characters go to bed, their souls sleepwalk to the kitchen to eat, going back the husband's soul inadvertently enter the wife's and the wife's the husband's, and they reverse roles? That was a fun movie -- with Edna Luna I think.
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My fave movies in order:
1. Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
Kumpadre! ;D
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LOL!!! I finally have a copy, woohoo!!! I was able to Tivo it last April 28. I'm reluctant to watch it again to be honest. Vagaries of time and memory, you know. Might ruin it for me. Parang dating syota. LOL. One of these days I'll put myself in the right mindset and see it again. BTW I still owe you a redub of Chimes of Midnight.
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LIPAD DARNA LIPAD no longer exists. The showdown between Gloria Romero & Vilma is a rare treat in this film. No fantasy film ever made it to critics lists.
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keating, what do you mean it no longer exists?
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Welcome aboard, eman59. Its presumed LOST meaning no existing masterprint, beta or vhs copy exists anymore. Same predicament with those Sine Pilipino Prods which came out with Bernal's ZOOM ZOOM SUPERMAN, SI POPEYE ATBP.
Sad state of film preservation here in our country.
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LOL!!! I finally have a copy, woohoo!!! I was able to Tivo it last April 28. I'm reluctant to watch it again to be honest. Vagaries of time and memory, you know. Might ruin it for me. Parang dating syota. LOL. One of these days I'll put myself in the right mindset and see it again. BTW I still owe you a redub of Chimes of Midnight.
Oh, is that you?
I don't know; I've watched it again and again (Tatlong Taong I mean) and it still knocks me on my behind.
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Texted Teddy Co a while ago and he came up with the following films, not necessarily in order.
1. EL FILIBUSTERISMO (Gerry de Leon)
2. SAWA SA LUMANG SIMBORYO (Gerry de Leon)
3. DAIGDIG NG MGA API- (Gerry de Leon) almost all cineastes over 50 years old raved about this Gerry de Leon classic according to him.
4. MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG (Lino Brocka)
5. INSIANG (Lino Brocka)
6. MANILA BY NIGHT (Ishmael Bernal)
7. SCORPIO NIGHTS (Peque Gallaga)
8. KISAPMATA (Mike de Leon)
9. BIYAYA NG LUPA (Manuel Silos)
10. PERFUMED NIGHTMARE (Kidlat Tahimik)
11. TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS (Mario O'Hara)
His lists may vary from time to time. Sometimes he may add an Avellana, or Celso Ad Castillo.
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One thing wrong with that list: I know for a fact he hasn't seen Daigdig ng Mga Api.
That said, I'd love to see it; might cause radical changes in my list too.
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Manila By Night & City After Dark -- are these different films? Or is it just one film with two different titles?
I saw a DVD of this and was curious. How good is this film? Thanks!
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It was Manila By Night, then changed to City After Dark when the MTRCB objected.
It's only Ishmael Bernal's masterpiece.
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Thanks!
Might as well ask about the others in the catalogue - which ones are good?
Cain & Abel
Karnal
Laro sa Baga
Babae sa Bintana
Pahiram ng Isang Umaga
Relasyon
Hamakin Lahat
Makiusap sa Diyos
The Fatima Buen Story
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One thing wrong with that list: I know for a fact he hasn't seen Daigdig ng Mga Api.
That said, I'd love to see it; might cause radical changes in my list too.
You're right, Noel. He hasn't seen it and will take that out in favor of O'Hara's TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS. But still, Teddy included it. He might have influence also with so many raves on that Gerry de Leon classic by cineastes although he hasn't seen it.
Apparently no ORO PLATA MATA on his lists as he was just touring the mansion of the Lorenzo clan in ORO with Peque yesterday in Bacolod. ;)
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Thanks!
Might as well ask about the others in the catalogue - which ones are good?
Cain & Abel
Karnal
Laro sa Baga
Babae sa Bintana
Pahiram ng Isang Umaga
Relasyon
Hamakin Lahat
Makiusap sa Diyos
The Fatima Buen Story
So far among the bunch, I've seen CAIN AT ABEL, KARNAL, RELASYON, PAHIRAM NG ISANG UMAGA & HAHAMAKIN LAHAT. The first three are classic, while the others were not really bad.
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I remember Teddy saying he prefers Tatlong Taong over Insiang. Which I think is really saying something.
I recommend Fatima Buen. Don't expect too much from Kris Aquino, but the supporting cast is terrific, everyone from Gina Pareno to even Zoren Legaspi gives excellent performances. And O'Hara's approach is a horror-gothic take on a tabloid story.
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To take out DAIGDIG over TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS is a rare feat already. Our lists can change from time to time, again if I have to tally all the votes..........Brocka's MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG is still on top.
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Maynila sa Mga Kuko ng Liwanag is Teddy's all-time favorite.
It's a great book too. Better than the movie, I think.
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How come Abaya's TANIKALA written by Edgardo M. Reyes, sank into oblivion?
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Because it's by Abaya? ;D
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Because it's by Abaya? ;D
LOL ;D
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Because it's by Abaya? ;D
It was actually a good material, can't hold to those feminist angst that she did in the 80's (Brutal, Moral & Karnal). I can't believe that was the adaptation that we went crazy during my elementary days. It has suspense moments in the adapted material/komiks by Edgardo Reyes. Even SENSUAL has such a good premise but wasted.
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Last night I bumped into several prominent people in Philippine Cinema during the preem of Cesar Hernando's KAGAT NG DILIM short feature. I made an ambush interview successfully. ;)
Film critic Mario Hernando's lists not necessarily in order because he can't think as his brother was being congratulated for a job well-done.
ANAK DALITA
MANILA BY NIGHT
KUNDIMAN NG LAHI
BIYAYA NG LUPA
GANITO KAMI NOON, PAANO KAYO NGAYON
NUNAL SA TUBIG
KISAPMATA
ITIM
BATANG WEST SIDE- he kept on reminding me to see this film!
EBOLUSYON NG ISANG PAMILYANG PILIPINO
BONA
INSIANG- he called my attention after I talked to him because he almost forgot this Brocka classic.
I kept also on making rebuttal on ORO PLATA MATA but we had an argument about that.......in first and 2nd viewing it was wow and totally impressed him, after that.......its ok already. ;D ;)
Now the big question...... where is MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG? He said it looks dated already and when you make a lists on the the best films you shouldn't be tired of watching them over and over again. And how about those films made by the camp of Joey Gosiengfiao & Elwood Perez? You can't really put them on the Best Lists because how could you put John Water's films on the GREATEST FILMS EVER MADE? ;D
RODY LACAP was very honest to admit that he can't include those films that he made as a cinematographer......but he looks back to ORO PLATA MATA as his greatest work. The top four on his book.
In order of preference:
1. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
2. SCORPIO NIGHTS
3. TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
4. MANILA BY NIGHT
Mes de Guzman is an independent filmmaker, his lists not necessarily in order:
KISAPMATA
ITIM
HIMALA
OROPRONOBIS
ORO PLATA MATA
SCORPIO NIGHTS
BONA
BATANG WEST SIDE
KAMBAL TUKO
BIYAYA NG LUPA
For the final ambush interview, here's Quark Henares top ten best pinoy films in order of preference. Quark was a joy to talk with, very friendly, cordial and has so much passion in Philipine Cinema! Hey Quark, when will you make a comeback? I missed your type of movies like KEKA & GAMITAN , hehehe. He was looking for commentary after the screening.
1. BATCH '81
2. KISAPMATA
3. SALAWAHAN
4. KAPIT SA PATALIM
5. ORO PLATA MATA
6. PAGDATING SA DULO
7. NINJA KIDS
8. MANILA BY NIGHT
9. BATANG WEST SIDE
10. SA AKING PAGKAKAGISING MULA SA KAMULATAN
We had a fun talk regarding NINJA KIDS........he kept on emphasizing to put it on number 7. ;) Thanks always to RMN for the back-up interview from these people.
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Maynila looks dated compared to Manila by Night? Maybe he doesn't mean "looks." Maynila's city still looks as dark and menacing as ever, Manila By Night actually looks cleaner and nicer than Manila today.
I like Rody's list best. ;D
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Noel, how would you rate NINJA KIDS? I'm sure Quark was not drunk when he mentioned that film. Ice teas and softdrinks were the only available drinks last night at Greenbelt Cinema 3. He was actually in love with the movie and put it on top of MANILA BY NIGHT & BATANG WEST SIDE? ;)
MyCinema in Greenbelt 3 has only sitting capacity of 50 persons. Nice, cozy place at the lobby where you can actually have your favorite huntahan with the filmmakers.
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Never saw Ninja Kids.
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Its Quark's guilty pleasure, perhaps.
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Cesar Hernando's Best Filipino Films, not necessarily in order. No contemporary because he might include some of the projects that he did with Mike de Leon like Batch '81, KISAPMATA.
GILIW KO
BIYAYA NG LUPA
48 ORAS
IKAW KASI
EL FILIBUSTERISMO
KUNDIMAN NG LAHI
SANDA WONG
ANAK DALITA
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I don't know about Giliw Ko--but to each his own. The rest are excellent choices. I'd throw in Sawa sa Lumang Siymboryo and Genghis Khan.
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I'm not also familiar with Kuya Cesar's lists, since most of the films I've never seen except for BIYAYA NG LUPA, 48 ORAS & ANAK DALITA.
There are more great movies to explore during the First Golden Age of Philippine Cinema. But the availability is always the main problem.
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Kundiman, Giliw, and Sanda are available. Just watch out for NCCA or Pelikula at Lipunan screenings.
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patalastas muna..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKxhmxcRTOA&search=filipino%20films
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Former finance secretary Jose Isidro Camacho's lists:
1. ORO PLATA MATA
2. MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
3. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
He's probably biased on ORO because Joey Reyes was his classmate in De La Salle University, but he has good taste. ;D
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I had the chance to chill out with direk Joyce Bernal after the screening of KUBRADOR at Cinemalaya in CCP, she's the coolest filmmaker that I've ever met. She keeps on reminding us.......please don't buy my movies! Too late my friend already bought and let her signed his dvds. ;D
The top ten in her lists, not necessarily in order:
HIMALA
PAANO ANG PUSO KO
MIGUELITO BATANG REBELDE
KAKABA KABA KA BA
MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG
TANGING YAMAN
MANILA BY NIGHT
IKAW LANG
PRIVATE SHOW
ITANONG MO SA BUWAN
PANAGHOY SA SUBA
Thanks to direk for providing us her lists. ;)
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Joyce's list is quite familiar. Miguelito, Himala, Kakaba Kaba Ka Ba, Manila By Night had always been a part of our group's film discussions -- most especially Miguelito when it first came out because there was a part of our group that was raving over the movie.
Private Show was hosted by our film group in UP when we were all still in college. Itanong mo sa buwan, on the other hand, was a staple in our regular movie marathons.
Keating, you should've asked Joyce for her top ten foreign flicks.
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Not to mention Joyce herself is one of the most talented recent filmmakers around, skilfull at handling actors and telling a romantic comedy, a not-as-easy-as-you-might-think form to do.
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Joyce's list is quite familiar. Miguelito, Himala, Kakaba Kaba Ka Ba, Manila By Night had always been a part of our group's film discussions -- most especially Miguelito when it first came out because there was a part of our group that was raving over the movie.
Private Show was hosted by our film group in UP when we were all still in college. Itanong mo sa buwan, on the other hand, was a staple in our regular movie marathons.
Keating, you should've asked Joyce for her top ten foreign flicks.
Yeah, man. I should have asked. When I asked her between Brocka & Bernal, she confessed that she likes Bernal than Brocka. His films are more realistic than the dramatic films of Brocka according to her.
We should gatecrash on the shoot of her next film, indie. ;)
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Depends on what you mean by realism. the Brocka of Insiang or Maynila could stand side-by-side with the neorealists, while the Brocka who did Ina Ka ng Anak Mo could sometimes seem like a Third World Douglas Sirk. Bernal Bernal could be openly experimental in films like Himala or Nunal sa Tubig or even Wating, in films like Relasyon or Broken Marriage be like Roberto Rossellini with his Ingrid Bergman films. That's a very complex question there.
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I thought you panned WATING, Noel. On the last part of Bernal's career, I can say that PAHIRAM NG ISANG UMAGA can be side by side with RELASYON & BROKEN MARRIAGE.
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I did pan Wating. It's a terrible, incoherent mess. But it does have some fascinating scenes.
Pahiram--well, I don't know. It's well-made melodrama, but I can't say it's in the league of Broken Marriage or Relasyon.
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Celeste Legaspi was effective villain in WATING. Bernal is always at his peak giving out the best in his actors, Carmina was very good in it, even Richard.
I can't imagine Mitch Valdez taking over the role of Celeste.
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Celeste was good. Not a fan of Carmina or Richard (except on two occasions--that romantic comedy with Regine (and even there Regine brought more to the party), and that stunningly effective role as the social climber in Carlitos' adaptation of The Heiress.
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I bumped into Mark Meily and his wife Lee at the screening of SAAN NAGTATAGO SI HAPPINESS a while ago and he came up with the following lists. I was surprised that he knows pinoydvd also which means he reads the posts here. ;)
BATCH 81- the most influential movie in his life
ORO PLATA MATA- the second most influential movie in his life
HIMALA
KISAPMATA
CITY AFTER DARK
TUHOG
MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
ITIM
ORAPRONOBIS
KARNAL
I had a very short chat with him and learned that BATCH 81 cast had a reunion at Eastwood already, dunno if Mike de Leon was there.
Thanks to direk Mark for providing us his lists.
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I had a short chat also, ambushed interview with the director of DONSOL, Adolfo Alix, Jr. DONSOL is currently the crowd drawer and box-office hit at Cinemalaya along with SAAN NAGTATAGO SI HAPPINESS and he came up with the following lists:
BIYAYA NG LUPA- the most influential movie in his life
INSIANG
MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
KISAPMATA
NUNAL SA TUBIG
TUHOG
KAPIT SA PATALIM: BAYAN KO
PAGPUTI NG UWAK, PAG-ITIM NG TAGAK
BRUTAL
MANILA BY NIGHT
again and again..........Brocka's MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG is always on their lists.
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Lav Diaz lists, not necessarily in order. He said he don't really have a top ten, only works that he loves.
MAYNILA SA KUKO NG LIWANAG
INSIANG
MANILA BY NIGHT
HIMALA
KISAPMATA
KUNDIMAN NG LAHI
GALO GIMBAL- an erap estrada starrer
MATIMBANG ANG DUGO SA TUBIG- starring the late FPJ
SALOME
VIRGIN FOREST
He is raring to see the early chiquito and dolphy works, even the black and white bombas, koboys. To quote him which I got thru email:
"Man, we need to see a lot; we're just f**ked we don't have an archive of our cinema."
Thanks to Sir Lav for providing us his lists.
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QTV 11 program ANG PINAKA hosted by Pia Guanio unleashed its Top Ten Best Filipino Films from the 80's last night. The jurors include: NICANOR TIONGSON, ERIK MATTI, NICK DE OCAMPO, RUEL BAYANI, ELLEN ONGKEKO-MARFIL and SIGFREID BARROS-SANCHEZ.
1. HIMALA
2. ORO PLATA MATA
3. BATCH 81
4. MANILA BY NIGHT
5. ORAPRONOBIS
6. SISTER STELLA L
7. SCORPIO NIGHTS
8. RELASYON
9. MORAL
10. BONA tied with KARNAL
The jurors defended the merits of each film, the best memorable scene and clips was also shown. Brocka, Bernal, Gallaga, Abaya and De Leon made their best film during this decade where dictatorship ruled our country. The following decade can't match the accolades of these movies.
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These are great lists! I hope they follow Hernando's lead and bring in titles from earlier years. And give more than ten.
Why didn't anyone mention Jaguar?
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JAGUAR is one of Brocka's best. Lists are really difficult to compile, one may suffer against the other. Ralfy, maybe a poll on Brocka's best will suffice.
I would like to see those Gerry de Leon masterpieces especially EL FILIBUSTERISMO & DAIGDIG NG MGA API, but the availability is always the main problem.
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I think we can't find good copies of Jaguar. I also found this article online about de Leon:
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/directors/05/de_leon.html
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JAGUAR is available on vhs format in Video 48, ralfy. Check it out!
Those films of Gerry de Leon gained me more interest to see them.
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when Pierre Rissient first saw Jaguar, he hated Vanishing Tribe's musical score (the only film they scored for Brocka) the movie was later re-scored by Max Jocson and sent to Cannes.
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Speaking of Brocka's JAGUAR, is this the first Filipino film to made it at the Cannes?
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no Insiang was the first one in 1978, followed by Jaguar in 1979, then Bona in 1981, Kapit Sa Patalim in 1984 and Orapronobis in 1988.
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Is Max Jocson still alive, Jo? What was the last movie that he musical scored?
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i believe he still is but he's been inactive for years. the last i know of was Babaing Hampaslupa by Mel Chionglo, but i maybe wrong...
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In every second viewing of a particular film, your preferences changes. This happens when I saw recently Bernal's HINUGOT SA LANGIT.
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Activists TOP TEN BEST FILIPINO FILMS OF ALL-TIME: A total of 37 activists representing people's organizations and non-government groups were asked to name their ten best films in random order, 29 of them replied. This survey was conducted from October 1-21 of 2002.
1. MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG
2. ORAPRONOBIS
3. HIMALA
4. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG/ SISTER STELLA L
5. MINSAN MAY ISANG GAMUGAMO/ ORO PLATA MATA
6. THE FLOR CONTEMPLACION STORY/ BAKIT MAY KAHAPON PA/ TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
7. JOSE RIZAL
8. BAYANING THIRD WORLD
9. SAKAY
10. MORAL/ MANILA BY NIGHT/ GANITO KAMI NOON, PAANO KAYO NGAYON
Again and again, Brocka's MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG is always on the top spot. Mind-boggling choices, JOSE RIZAL over BAYANING THIRD WORLD, huh?!
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i vannot believe they included The Flor Contemplacion Story, where's Tikoy's Bagong Bayani? Kapit Sa Patalim deserves to be in the list than Jose Rizal. Bakit May Kahapon Pa was politically charged hence it's inclusion in the list but Sakay? is this the Raymond Red movie? i had problems with it although not a totally dismissible film, it had great cinematic moments and performances...
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SAKAY was the Raymond Red movie. KAPIT SA PATALIM was in the 13th spot.
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i'm surprised Kapit didn't make it to the top 10...
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Mind-boggling really.....here the other films that cited a couple of times but didn't make it on the top ten lists:
BATCH 81
BAGETS
BAYAN KO: KAPIT SA PATALIM
INSIANG
SAKADA
LIGAYA ANG ITAWAG MO SA AKIN
SCORPIO NIGHTS
NUNAL SA TUBIG
KISAPMATA
LUCIA
SANA MAULIT MULI
TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS should not be in the league of FLOR CONTEMPLACION & BAKIT MAY KAHAPON PA. Agree with KAPIT SA PATALIM & BAGONG BAYANI.
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Ligaya was a mess... Lucia had good intentions but was badly directed by Mel Chionglo. Sana Maulit Muli showcased the strongest performance of Aga Mulach's entire career.
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LIGAYA was not really bad, Chionglo tries to imitate Brocka in LUCIA. Aga was also good in MIGUELITO.
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Aga was good in Miguelito but his performance was overshadowed by that of Nida Blanca's. Lucia's problematic storyline was enhanced by Chionglo's inadequate direction. even the great Lolita Rodriguez couldn't save the film.
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Ed Cabagnot's lists of top ten filipino films, nice comments also. Whether you're a cine nut for transcendence or just the popcorn, here are some titles that's guaranteed to increase your self-esteem and racial pride.
Manuel Silos' BIYAYA NG LUPA- Brocka claimed this was on top of his list. It broke rules (character actors as stars, ultra simple storyline, picturesque cinematography, social issues) and got away with it.
Gerry de Leon's NOLI ME TANGERE- Only because its the clearest copy extant (via a German grant) of Manong's works. But should there be a miracle and other de Leon titles surface let it be EL FILIBUSTERISMO, SANDA WONG, DAIGDIG NG MGA API, IFUGAO, DYESEBEL, 48 ORAS.
Lamberto Avellana's ANAK DALITA or BADJAO- Pinoy neo-realism at its best. Fine ensemble acting between the leads, Tony Santos and Rosa Rosal.
Mike De Leon's KISAPMATA- One of the most technically proficient local films todate. Sound and editing (usually glossed over during production) is painstakingly nurtured. The script by Raquel Villavicencio, Doy del Mundo and the director is crisp and spare. Must-sees: Vic Silayan's powerful performance and Charito Solis untypical understated acting.
Ishmael Bernal's MANILA BY NIGHT- Bernal's satyric claws at its sharpest (It made Imelda cry for the wrong reasons). Imagine this project started as an exploitation piece for Alma Moreno, Lorna Tolentino, Rio Locsin, Cherie Gil, Gina Alajar and William Martinez.
Lino Brocka's INSIANG- Superb handling of his cast (Koronel, Vernal and Mona Lisa) and an innate sense of drama makes this a quintessential Brocka. Other Brocka's second and third looks: MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG, TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG, BONA and JAGUAR.
Peque Gallaga's ORO PLATA MATA- Too bad Peque's gone the lucre route. Oro was such a stunner when it first came out in the early 80's. Nobody's ever seen such opulant production design by Don Escudero on local celluloid before. Today, folks think its too noisy and the last shootout extreme, but Oro still is a tough act to follow.
Laurice Guillen's SALOME- A fine reworking of RASHOMON with a script by Ricky Lee, this film elevated the concept of a woman director. Again an actor's film (with Gina Alajar, Johnny Delgado and Armida Siguion-Reyna).
Marilou Diaz-Abaya's BRUTAL- Inlcude MORAL and KARNAL in your list. Marilou's the undisputed spokerperson of mainstream films for/about/by women.
And some other works like Celso Ad Castillo's PINAKAMAGANDANG HAYOP SA BALAT NG LUPA, Mario O'Hara's BULAKLAK NG CITY JAIL, and Raymond Red's commercial birth-pangs that's BAYANI and SAKAY.
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I'm surprised Ed doesn't include Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon--he used to tell me how much he liked it.
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1) Maynila: Sa mga kuko ng Liwanag
2) Himala
3) Hinugot sa Langit
4) Bona
5) Abandonada
6) Batch '81
7) Tinimbang ka, ngunit kulang
8) Manila by Night
9) Mila
10) Ang pagdadalaga ni maximo oliveros
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Vicky Belarmino's (CCP Film Archivist) lists, not necessarily in order:
BIYAYA NG LUPA
JACK AND JILL- original version
INSIANG
TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
MAYNILA SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG
GANITO KAMI NOON, PAANO KAYO NGAYON
SISTER STELLA L
ITIM
RELASYON
HINUGOT SA LANGIT
She also mentioned the films of Peque Gallaga, Marilou Diaz Abaya and Laurice Guillen:
SCORPIO NIGHTS
ORO PLATA MATA
VIRGIN FOREST
BRUTAL
MORAL
KARNAL
SALOME
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Ed Cabagnot's lists of Top Ten Best Indie Films:
KUBRADOR
ANG DAAN PATUNGONG KALIMUGTONG
ANG PAGDADALAGA NI MAXIMO OLIVEROS
BIG TIME
DONSOL
ROTONDA
TULAD NG DATI
PINOY BLONDE
MASAHISTA
LA VISA LOCA
thanks to Mr. Ed and Ms. Vicky for the ambush phone patch interview. ;)
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Yes, I go there often and borrowed the VHS format years ago. Are there any good copies remaining outside the country?
Where can I find copies of de Leon's films, esp. Noli?
JAGUAR is available on vhs format in Video 48, ralfy. Check it out!
Those films of Gerry de Leon gained me more interest to see them.
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Ed doesn't seem to like Lav Diaz...or he hasn't seen anything by him...?
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Yeah, I almost forgot to ask sir Ed about that. No BATANG WEST SIDE & EBOLUSYON on his lists. Its true he reads the reviews in this community.
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Direk Joey Reyes lists, in tall order.
1. TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
2. MANILA BY NIGHT
3. RELASYON
4. INSIANG
5. DAIGDIG NG MGA API
6. TATLO, DALAWA, ISA
7. KARNAL
8. BULAKLAK NG MAYNILA
9. ITANONG MO SA BUWAN
10. WORKING GIRLS
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Joey likes Daigdig, huh? Lucky so and so...
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Joey Reyes, Elwood and the late Joey Gosiengfiao gush over Gerry de Leon's DAIGDIG NG MGA API. Teddy told me about it.
I'll ask Elwood about his lists probably when I bump into him in future film screenings.
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BAGETS was panned by critics when it came out in 1984, the most influential teen-angst flick ever made.
MISTERYO SA TUWA is way, way ahead of SIMPLE PLAN.
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Influential for Philippine cinema, I suppose, tho arguably Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang is an earlier teenage angst film.
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ALPHA KAPPA OMEGA (AKO) batch 81 movie: Mark Gil, Sid Lucero, Sandy Andalong, Noel Trinidad etc..
Shake Rattle and Roll "the Orig" : Techie, Herbert etc...
Bagets
Rizal
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Auraeus Solito's lists, fresh from my email. Many thanks to direk Auraeus for providing us his lists.
Here is my top 10 ( based on what I've seen in my
lifetime:)
with short comments.
My Top Ten Best Filipino Films of All Time
1 Insiang by Lino Brocka – epitomy of “slum films” or
films set in the slums
2 Nunal sa Tubig By Ishmael Bernal – an enigmatic true
Filipino art film
3 Turumba by Kidlat Tahimik – ahead of all these
Iranian and Chinese realist films.
4 Biyaya ng Lupa by Manuel Silos – a 1950s classic
that embodies great filmmaking
5 Kapit sa Patalim by Lino Brocka -
great political drama during the
Marcos dictatorship
6 Orapronobis by Lino Brocka- great political drama
post Marcos
7 Virgin Forest by Peque Gallaga – best historical
film with an erotic twist
8 Sister Stella L by Mike de Leon – didactic,
almost Brechtian political drama
9 Scorpio Nights by Peque Gallaga- best Filipino
erotic film
10 Himala by Ishmael Bernal – an epic parable of
Filipino Christian religiosity
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Direk Maryo J. delos Reyes lists as provided by Jake Tordesillas thru email. Jake penned BAGETS, KAYA KONG ABUTIN ANG LANGIT and TAGOS NG DUGO, all made by Maryo. Many thanks to Jake Tordesillas!
Maryo's list is:
1) Biyaya Ng Lupa
2) Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon
3) City After Dark or Manila By Night
4) Maynila Sa Kuko Ng Liwanag
5) Anak Dalita
6) Oro Plata Mata
7) Himala
8) Relasyon
9) Insiang
10) Magnifico
Jake's or my list:
1) Biyaya Ng Lupa
2) Maynila sa Kuko Ng Liwanag
3) Himala
4) Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon
5) City After Dark or Maynila By Night
6) Oro Plata Mata
7) Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang
8) Kisapmata
9) Juan Tamad
10) Sisa
let me add 5 more favorites....
11) Anak Dalita
12) Magnifico
13) Badyao
14) Minsan May Isang Gamu-gamo
15) Bagets
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Which Sisa is that, Mario's or Gerardo's?
And hey, isn't Magnifico Maryo's? If you ever get the chance, tell him I much prefer his Laman.
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I think its SISA by Gerry de Leon.
Yep, MAGNIFICO was made by Maryo.
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Yeah. So he votes for his own film? Maryo J.'s a nice guy and all, but if he wants to do that, he should vote for Laman. That's the better film, is my opinion.
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Marilou and Laurice also voted for their own film when they made their lists. Can Mario O'Hara provide us his lists, Noel?
JUAN TAMAD has been declared lost film already, another holy grail aside from Gerry de Leon's DAIGDIG NG MGA API. But really two different genre.
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gosh..medyo offtopic pero somehow related:
My list of most overrated Filipino films of all time:
NOTE: They are good but to much HYPE!
1) Jose Rizal (1998)
2) Nunal sa tubig (1976)
3) Hihintayin kita sa langit (1991)
4) Bagets (1984)
5) Tubog sa Ginto (1971)
6) Broken Marriage (1983)
7) Scorpio Nights (1985)
8) Ina, kapatid, anak (1979)
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My list of top 15 films from 2000-2006
1) MILA
2) ANG PAGDADALAGA NI MAXIMO OLIVEROS
3) BAYANING 3RD WORLD
4) JOLOGS
5) ANAK
6) TANGING YAMAN
7) MAGNIFICO
8) NAGLALAYAG
9) MILAN
10) MASAHISTA
11) BIG TIME
12) GOT 2 BELIEVE
13) NASAAN KA MAN
14) YOU ARE THE ONE
15) KALELDO
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So Far, ito yung madalas napipili:
1) MAYNILA: SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG
2) BATCH '81
3) TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG
4) INSIANG
5) HIMALA
6) ORO, PLATA, MATA
7) TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS
8) MANILA BY NIGHT
9) KISAPMATA
10) SCORPIO NIGHTS
yan ang top 10 most popular choices....saka ko na bibilangin kung ilan ang nakuha nila....hehehehehhe
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I wish we could expand our lists and came up with PINOYDVD'S 100 BEST FILIPINO FILMS OF ALL-TIME.
Sosy_high can you tally the scores? Thanks!
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great idea! i'll start a thread.
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Pareng P0gi (Keating), ito na po yung nabilang q...hehehehe
TOP 10:
1) MAYNILA: SA MGA KUKO NG LIWANAG (28 POINTS)
2) MANILA BY NIGHT (26 POINTS)
3) KISAPMATA (26 POINTS)**
4) ORO, PLATA, MATA (21 POINTS)
5) HIMALA (19 POINTS)
6) TINIMBANG KA NGUNIT KULANG (18 POINTS)
7) INSIANG (16 POINTS)
8 ) BATCH '81 (11 POINTS)
9) SCORPIO NIGHTS (11 POINTS)*
10) TATLONG TAONG WALANG DIYOS (10 POINTS)
**MAS NAUNANG NAKA 26 POINTS ANG MANILA BY NIGHT KESA KISAPMATA
*MAS NAUNANG NAKA 11 POINTS ANG BATCH '81 KESA SCORPIO NIGHTS
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Thanks sosy, Im flattered, hehehe. ;D
Too bad most of the films from the 1st Golden Age of Philippine Cinema are now rotting and lost, hence many were not included on the lists. They might pop up on the 100 BEST.
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Thanks sosy, Im flattered, hehehe. ;D
Too bad most of the films from the 1st Golden Age of Philippine Cinema are now rotting and lost, hence many were not included on the lists. They might pop up on the 100 BEST.
Maynila sa mga kuko ng liwanag talaga ang People's choice....well deserved naman kasi maganda talaga ang movie
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Laurice and Marilou included their own films in their lists? Reeeeally...
Mario O you need to call him and pin him down. He's got funny gaps in his filmgoing. He's never seen Kisapmata, for example. Or anything by Tikoy or Bernal. He liked Burlesk Queen very much. He's seen Sister Stella L--but wouldn't tell me if he liked it or not. He's seen quite a few of the classic black-and-white Filipino films, but didn't name any titles. That's all I got out of him.
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"Tinimbang ka ngunit Kulang"-- Is this the film with a young Gina Alajar and Sandy Andolong? If so, this is the real(!) teenage angst film. Drinkin SMB at such a young age, tsk,tsk!
Tinimbang... starred Christopher de Leon, Eddie Garcia and Lolita Rodriguez. Could you possibly be referring to High School Life instead?
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Top movie of all time:
Minsan, Minahal Kita -- Sharon and Richard ;D
Top 10.. later na! :)
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INSIANG will have a play at the CCP this Oct 12-14.
Btw, it's Rated R.
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That is probably this production (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/328)
Most critics hated it. I was one of the few that didn't.
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I grew up with their music from BLUE JEANS to AWIT NG BARKADA. Apo Hiking Society member Jim Paredes now residing in Australia provides us with his lists.
1) Kisapmata--really gripping and powerful suspense.
2) kakabakaba ka ba?--Cutting edge then. One of the fiirst movies with a music video
3) Rizal by Mike de Leon--Very Mike de Leon
4) Itim--Mike's first attempt at film. Cutting edge kaagad
5) Insiang--Brocka's best for me. Lyrically and beautifully tragic
6) Manila after Dark--A Bernal classic. The dark and insanely, seedy side of Manila after dark with a heavy dose of the magic realism inherent to Pinoy life.
Not much of a movie fan. have not seen too many Filipino Films I can remember. Will send as I remember them.
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Doesn't Kakaba have at least two of the Apo Hiking Society in it? ;D
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i know boboy garovillo was there playing a japanese man...
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One, then. I was thinking of George Javier, but he's not APO
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Danny Javier's in the movie too, he was the hippie dude. I think Jim Paredes wrote music for that movie too.
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Doesn't Kakaba have at least two of the Apo Hiking Society in it? ;D
Jim was at the last scene making kumpas for the choir during the wedding of Boyet/Charo, Jay & Sandy. ;)
The Apo Hiking Society personified the best example of a pop culture sponge. They been around in the biz for almost 4 decades. They are the singing narrators in SI POPEYE ATBP.
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here's my ten best Filipino films not in any particular order...
1.PAG PUTI NG UWAK PAG ITIM NG TAGAK
2.SALOME
3.BURLESK QUEEN
4. INA KA NG ANAK MO
5. INSIANG
6. BIYAYA NG LUPA
7.GUMISING KA MARUJA
8. AGUILA
9. ORO PLATA MATA
10. INSIANG
-OTHER FAVS:
NYMPHA. MAGKARIBAL, PANDAY 1 2 3. DARNA SERIES
BIYAYA NG LUPA. GAANO KADALAS ANG MINSAN. DYESEBEL (EDNA AND VILMA)
KUNG KASALANAN MAN. TAG ULAN SA TAG ARAW. LANGIS AT TUBIG
DIOSA. BOMBA STAR. PARADISE INN. CRYING LADIES. PAG SAPIT NG DILIM
KARNAL. KARNAL. KONTROBERSYAL. NASAAN KA MAN. LIGAW NA BULAKLAK. BITUING WALANG NING NING. MANILA BY NIGHT. HIMALA
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Ms. Jo Atienza is one of the founding members of SOFIA (Society of Film Archivist). She's the one who started it all. I've never met a woman in my whole life who has so much passion and penchant for Philippine Cinema. Ask Ate Jo and she knows the history of any Filipino film just like Teddy Co and where you can find also the rotting print of that particular film!
Thanks also Ate Jo for constructing finally the correct sequencing of ORO PLATA MATA. The dvd might be in the works soon! ;)
I find it hard to come up with a ten best Filipino
film. The films are so diverse and so different from
each other in terms of intentions and circumstances
that I find it unfair to rank them and pass judgment
as to which one is better than the other. For me, as
long as the film is able to effectively convey what it
sets out to do in the first place or is able to
transcend the limitations of its original intent, then
it’s a successful film. Since every director has its
own intention or motivation to do a film, I don’t
think it’s fair that I rank one director’s work
against another director’s. But if I come up with my
favorite per director, I ran the risk of coming up
with each director’s standard “best” film, which will
be a most boring list since they’d been discussed ad
infinitum. So, instead, I’ve decided to come up with a
list of each director’s “underrated” film list. These
are films which were not given the recognition they
deserve, in my opinion. Call them my guilty pleasures,
films that I feel deserve the same respect as their
more prestigious and recognized siblings. Needless to
say, I also consider them my favorite. There is no
particular ranking.
1. Lino Brocka’s Inay (1977)
This simple charming film about a recently retired
school principal (Alicia Vergel) who tries to live
with each of her children’s families (including his
bachelor youngest son, played by Vergel’s real life
son, Ace), and, in the process, made to feel rejected
and irrelevant, is something that every parent and
child can relate to.
2. Ishmael Bernal’s Salawahan (1979)
Very few people got to see this Bernal comedy, about
two friends of different personalities (Jay Ilagan and
Matt Ranillo III) who suddenly find themselves living
the other guy’s life, because it had a first day, last
day screening at the theaters. This film, obviously
inspired by French comedies, relies mostly on
improvisations and, to me, is Bernal’s most daring
experimentation; much too ahead of its time.
3. Mike de Leon’s Hindi Nahahati ang Langit (1985)
Many will dismiss this komiks adaptation as Mike de
Leon’s worst film (which is not really that bad since
the guy has not done anything that’s less than
brilliant). And the fact that the film does not have a
director in it’s opening credit, many people wrongly
thought that Mike is ashamed of this film and wouldn’t
put his name in it (it was because of a non-creative
tiff with the producers). I agree it's not as good as
Mike's other films but I still like it because, for
me, his characters here are some of his more strongly
realized characters, the step-siblings who denied
their feelings for each other and the people they used
and hurt in the process. Repeated watching of this
film (I subtitled it) made me appreciate and feel the
characters’ dilemma and situation.
4. Celso Ad. Castillo’s Tag-Ulan sa Tag-Araw (1975)
Unlike Celso’s other films, this film does not boast
of breathtaking cinematography or artsy visuals. It is
simply the story of two cousins who found themselves
desperately in love with each other. The intensity of
the emotions and the vulnerability of the characters
who got themselves in an overwhelming situation which
in their young minds they couldn’t fathom, makes it,
for me, a very strong film.
5. Joey Gosiengfiao’s Bomba Star (1978)
This is the camp master at his campiest best. In his
look at the rivalry between an insecure “bomba”
superstar and an up-and-coming star wannabe, Joey G.
elevated camp into an art form. Every scene is
delightfully brilliant and there are not enough
superlatives to describe the finale scene. This film
was made before the much-talked-talked about
Temptation Island and, Lav Diaz agrees with me, this
one is even better.
6. Eddie Romero’s Aguila (1980)
There were so much expectations for this film, a right
after the cradle to right before the grave epic saga
of a man against the backdrop of Philippine history,
including a best actor trophy for its lead actor,
Fernando Poe, Jr. But as far as many of the people are
concerned, it did not live up to its promise: the film
was much too long, the ending and some of its parts
were too vague, the make-up and art direction were too
sloppy, and FPJ did not even get an award. But I still
find the account of fictional character Daniel
Aguila’s life to be one of the more intelligent film
discussion on how the “Filipino” evolved from the time
of the colonizers to the contemporary times. And this,
for me, is FPJ’s most “human” character ever, complete
with its doubts and vulnerabilities.
7. Gerardo de Leon’s El Filibusterismo (1962)
Noli Me Tangere is more popular and better discussed
than its sequel. There are also more Noli and
Noli-inspired films than Fili (especially if the Noli
wasn’t so successful, nobody bothered with the
sequel). I remember watching Fili on television when I
was still in high school and I couldn’t help but gush
on its beauty, particularly, the scene of Paulita’s
wedding where there was a close-up of her hands as she
wears the ring and a single tear drops on it. Seeing
Noli much later, I came to the conclusion that Fili is
the better film. Unfortunately, unlike Noli, the film
is gone. A copy of it was shown on cable recently, but
it’s a badly mangled copy where all of the Hule scenes
(played by Charito Solis) are missing.
8. Lamberto Avellana’s Pag-Asa (1951)
This story of two poor runaway orphan siblings who
find refuge in the home of a carnival ride operator is
definitely not one of Avellana’s prestige films
(e.g., Anak Dalita and Badjao), but still carries the
famed “Avellana touch.” It’s an entertaining melodrama
with realistic, casual dialogue and natural
performances by its actors.
9. Gregorio Fernandez’s Kung Ako’y Mahal Mo (1960)
In this film noir about a wrongly accused man, Nestor
de Villa gave his best performance ever, with the ever
sensual Charito Solis.
10. Richard Abelardo’s Mutya ng Pasig (1950)
This ghost story, for me, is the most underrated black
and white film. Special effects pioneer Richard
Abelardo had not reached the stature of De Leon,
Avellana, Conde and company, but he was no less
important. The haunting song (Nicanor Abelardo’s Mutya
ng Pasig), breathtaking visuals (the boat by the Pasig
River with a full moon) and brilliant but subtle
special effects (the ghost of Rebecca Gonzales, in a
pieta-like pose with unconscious daughter Delia Razon
amidst an island of water lilies, seamlessly
disappears when the people arrive) makes this one of
the most unforgettable films of all times.
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Agreed, Salawahan is one of Bernal's best.
Disagreed on Tag-Ulan. I think the camerawork's pure poetry.
Disagree with Bomba Star--Temptation is visually surreal. But this has its moments, definitely.
Glad to see Fili and Di Nahahati on the list. I'd rate it on second tier--but above better known stuff such as Sister Stella or Kung Mangarap.
What, no O'Hara? ??? I mean, Uhaw na Pagibig or Manananggal in Manila might belong here...
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SALAWAHAN is definitely one of Bernal's unsung masterpiece.
You have to ask Ate Jo about O'Hara......Noel. She thinks Mario doesn't know and he's shy to admit that he's a genius.
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If she thinks he's a genius, maybe she could include a title on her list...ah, never mind. I'll call her one of these days.
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I believe EL FILI was lost already. I'll revisit NOLI ME TANGERE one of these days.
HINDI NAHAHATI ANG LANGIT is Mike de Leon's most commercial film to date and yes, agree with her thoughts. The man has never done mediocre and less brilliant film in his filmography.
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From the man himself......
I'm a little wary of giving any kind of top ten lists of filipino films, precisely
because in a way, there is a kind of criticism implied on my fellow directors
and colleagues, which I think should be avoided like the plague.
However, let me answer your question in another way... there are certain
films that provided me with wonder, that made me question my life or want
to change my life; and there are films that, while watching, made me envious
and want to shoot something like that, or tell a story exactly in that way. These
films are: "Tinimbang Ka" by Lino, because it captured the little details of living
in a small rural community (not to mention that Laurice Guillen sitting in the car
and drinking in the sight of half-naked boys jumping into the river from the bridge
is one of the most sensual and "true" moments of Filipino cinema). "Manila by
Night" by Ishmael (I don't believe that there exists a movie called City After Dark) because
it really is a love song to the Manila I know. "Banta Ng Kahapon" of Eddie, which is
a more successful portrayal of an alpha male who is scared to death and has nowhere
to turn... it is totally superior to Jaguar which basically deals with the same theme plus
the performance of Roderick Paulate was truly amazing. And of course, the two
masterpieces of Celso Kid: "Nympha" and "Burlesk Queen". Nympha captured the
essence of sexual longing and lust while capturing the sensual elements of bed,
banig, flesh, sweat and hot Manila afternoons. That movie, more than anything, was
instrumental in my wanting to be a director, or rather, to become more personal in
my directing. And of course, the complete audacity of Burlesk Queen blew me away.
"Ganito Kami Noon" left me very unsatisfied but totally filled me up with the possibility
of showing the richness and cultural diversity (especially through images) of our past.
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My favorite Filipino films:
Aguila (Eddie Romero)
Oro,Plata,Mata (Peque Gallaga)
Saan Darating Ang Umaga? (Maryo J. delos Reyes)
Paano Kung Wala Ka Na? (Mel Chionglo)
Itanong Mo Sa Buwan (Chito Rono)
Sana Maulit Muli (Olivia Lamasan)
Tanging Yaman (Laurice Guillen)
Ang Pagdadalaga ni Maximo Oliveros (Aureus Solito)
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Makasali nga rito, hehehe. I am a fan of big production so expect that my choices (except for selected few) are huge in production values. Here we go:
In no particular order:
1. Himala (Ishmael Bernal)
2. Nunal sa Tubig (Ishmael Bernal)
3. Manila By Night (Ishmael Bernal)
4. Maynila, Sa Mga Kuko ng Liwanag (Lino Brocka)
5. Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang (Lino Brocka)
6. Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos (Mario O'Hara)
7. Oro, Plata, Mata (Gallaga)
8. Kisapmata (Mike de Leon)
9. Karnal (Marilou Diaz-Abaya)
10. Salome (Laurice Guillen)
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and the winner is HIMALA!
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As I don't belong to a generation who has access to all these movies, I feel doubly saddened by the fact that there seems to be no place to access previous works of Gallaga, Mike De Leon, Brocka, etc.
I hope someone here can point us to where dvd copies (kahit VCD pa) exist of these masterpieces.
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As I don't belong to a generation who has access to all these movies, I feel doubly saddened by the fact that there seems to be no place to access previous works of Gallaga, Mike De Leon, Brocka, etc.
I hope someone here can point us to where dvd copies (kahit VCD pa) exist of these masterpieces.
http://www.kabayancentral.com/video/brocka.html
http://www.kabayancentral.com/video/bernal.html
http://www.kabayancentral.com/video/mdeleon.html
http://www.kabayancentral.com/vvideo.html
http://now.abs-cbn.com/index-mc.aspx
http://www.regalfilms.com/newshop/index.php
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Didn't we do this already? Oh well:
TWELVE GREAT FILIPINO FILMS (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/noelmoviereviews/message/480)
Where can I buy this award winning hard to find classic movies? I have a copy of this Oro Plata Mata, The story revolved about the 3 Families of Iloilo during the Japanese- American war. I watched it and it was really gory, but very historical. I wanted to collect other award winning movies, the like of Ganito Kami noon paano kayo ngayon, Kisapmata, Itim and others. It's a really hard to find movie classic.
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LIPAD DARNA LIPAD no longer exists. The showdown between Gloria Romero & Vilma is a rare treat in this film. No fantasy film ever made it to critics lists.
Does anybody knows where I can purchase the first movie of Ate Vi?..with Don Don Nakar...Lipad Darna Lipad?..Its really a Timeless Movie!!!!
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Here's mine (in no particular order) - though hindi ko inabutan talaga itong mga movies na ito, I just love watching pinoy classic movies and I am glad I have copies of these movies.
1. Maynila Sa Mga Kuko Ng Liwanag
2. ITIM
3. Insiang
4. Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang
5. Ina, Kapatid, Anak
6. Takaw Tukso
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Good list, can't find any fault in any of your choices.
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Good list, can't find any fault in any of your choices.
Are you referring to my list? :)
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Yep.
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Yep.
Thanks!
I am a huge fan of pinoy classic films and just recently watched Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos.
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Oh? That doesn't make your list, then?
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Oh? That doesn't make your list, then?
Yeah, I don't know but I just find the film ok. I prefer Himala than Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos.
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Fair enough. Himala's Bernal's most surreal, and strangely prophetic--it foreshadows the devastation of Pinatubo. Attitude too--I talked to people there and some of them believe there was divine judgment behind the disaster.
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You can never wrong with these timeless Filipino classic:
Himala
Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos
Kakabakaba ka ba?
Aguila
Kapit sa Patalim
Gabi Na, Kumander
Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang
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I tried tallying the votes from this poll (though I admit it's not fool-proof), and the results were quite instructive. It should be noted that I considered only those votes submitted in response to this particular poll, hence those lifted from Joel David's book and QTV's Ang Pinaka- (just to cite some examples) were not counted. The respondents ranged from industry professionals to film critics to pinoydvd.com members.
The top ten (in ascending order): Scorpio Nights, Itim, Biyaya Ng Lupa, Tinimbang Ka Ngunit Kulang, Insiang/Himala (tied), Oro,Plata,Mata, Kisapmata, City After Dark, Maynila Sa Mga Kuko Ng Liwanag.
So that's 3 by Lino Brocka, 2 each by Ishmael Bernal, Mike De Leon, and Peque Gallaga, and 1 from Manuel Silos. Brocka also has the most number of films cited (including Gumising Ka Maruja and Gumapang Ka Sa Lusak); Biyaya was the only title cited from Manuel Silos' works, and the only movie in the top ten that was not produced during the Second Golden Age. All of Mike De Leon's full-length features, from Itim to Bayaning Third World, were mentioned. Carlos Vander Tolosa's Giliw Ko (1939) is the oldest title submitted, and Mark Meilly's La Visa Loca (2005) is the newest. Brillante Mendoza, whose independently-produced films only gained notice quite recently, did not figure in the polls.
Among the respondents, 'keating' got 7 from the top ten on his list,while a few came up with 'unique' lists, including 'diabolik' (page 2), totoy bato (page 4), and Jo Atienza (page 10).
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Nothing by Gerry de Leon? That's weird, man.
I mean--Noli Me Tangere, El Filibusterismo, Sisa, Moises Padilla Story, Daigdig ng Mga Api, 48 Oras, Sawa sa Lumang Simboryo, Sanda Wong, Terror is a Man should be mentioned at least once.
Celso's Burleks Queen and Pagputi ng Uwak, Pagitim ng Tagak should be mentioned at least once.
And I think I for one mentioned Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos at least once. Didn't I?
Basically why I don't trust scores.
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"Interesting", not "weird", should be the best word to describe the absence of those films, Mr.Vera. Copies of films which made it to the top ten are commercially available, except Maynila Sa Mga Kuko Ng Liwanag and the Mike De Leon films, and this I think is one of the reasons why those films you mentioned didn't get higher scores: it's possible that very few of the respondents have seen them (among Gerardo De Leon's major works, I've only seen Sisa and Noli Me Tangere); Daigdig Ng Mga Api is even considered lost forever.
Around forty films were cited at least thrice in this poll, most of it are really good.
And by the way, Tatlong Taong Walang Diyos came in at 11th, tied with Salome. ;)
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That's 'Burlesk Queen,' I meant to write there.
I'd make a list of those mentioned at least twice. Maybe a special list of those mentioned only once. Just to highlight the unjustly neglected.
Incidentally--Lihim ni Madonna, Tag init sa Tag Ulan, Alamat ni Julian Makabayan, Babae sa Bubungang Lata, Sisa (O'Hara version), Hindi Nahahati ang Langit, Dolzura Cortez Story, Bagong Bayani, Segurista, Ang Magpakailanman, Ang Maikling Kuwento ng Apoy, Todo Todo Teros, Indio Nacional. Just saying.
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R2 thanks for tallying the lists. I think 10 lists are not enough really to cover the best Filipino films ever made. And yes, most Gerry de Leon's masterpieces are lost already.
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R2 thanks for tallying the lists. I think 10 lists are not enough really to cover the best Filipino films ever made. And yes, most Gerry de Leon's masterpieces are lost already.
Kudos to keating for starting this thread five years ago! I suggest that there ought to be a separate list/tally of filmmakers' choice for the 10 best pinoy flicks ever made.
Anyway, here are my (belated) choices:
Anak Dalita
Biyaya ng Lupa
Burlesk Queen
Himala
Igorota (Luis Nepomuceno)
Jack and Jill (Mar S. Torres) - funniest pinoy film IMFO ;)
Kisapmata
Maynila sa mga Kuko ng Liwanag
Moral
Oro, Plata, Mata
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The Manunuri ng Pelikulang Pilipino (MPP) has just released its list of the Ten Best Films of 2000 to 2009, or the first ten years of the current millennium:
Babae Sa Breakwater (2003)
Batang Westside (2001)
Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino (2004)
Kinatay (2009)
Kubrador (2006)
Lola (2009)
Magnifico (2003)
Ang Pagdadalaga Ni Maximo Oliveros (2005)
Serbis (2008)
Tuhog (2000)
Article: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gawad-urian-picks-ten-best-films-decade-2000-180011538.html
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The Manunuri ng Pelikulang Pilipino (MPP) has just released its list of the Ten Best Films of 2000 to 2009, or the first ten years of the current millennium:
Babae Sa Breakwater (2003)
Batang Westside (2001)
Ebolusyon ng Isang Pamilyang Pilipino (2004)
Kinatay (2009)
Kubrador (2006)
Lola (2009)
Magnifico (2003)
Ang Pagdadalaga Ni Maximo Oliveros (2005)
Serbis (2008)
Tuhog (2000)
Article: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gawad-urian-picks-ten-best-films-decade-2000-180011538.html
Impressive choices.
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There should be mention of "Jaguar" directed by Lino Brocka and starring Philip Salvador as another classic film?....
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I think Mendoza does deserve a slot; three is a bit much. I'd throw in John Torres, Raya Martin, Dennis Marasigan, Rico Ilarde, and that's just off the top of my head.
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This reminds me: what were the Manunuri's choices for Top Ten Best Filipino Films of the 1990s?
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hyden kho and halili.
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Did O'Hara worked with Ricky before Noel?
Fraid not
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As requested by pinoy rebyu: my Fourteen Best Filipino Films (http://criticafterdark.blogspot.com/2013/05/fourteen-filipino-films.html)
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Lino Brocka streaming on Netflix (http://thefilmsaurus.com/blog/?p=1147)
Streaming on Netflix (with subtitles): three of the best Filipino films I know. Two will stop streaming come Jan. 15. One--Insiang--is in my opinion Brocka's masterpiece.
My thoughts on Insiang (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/noelmoviereviews/conversations/topics/338) (warning: plot and ending discussed in close detail)
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One of the finest erotic films I know (http://criticafterdark.blogspot.com/2014/09/init-sa-magdamag-midight-passion.html)
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"Panagimpan" a very old film is action packed, i read the book and saw the film, would like to see it again..