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I'm planning on purchasing an LCD TV with in the next month or so... medyo low budget lang kaya I'm looking at the low priced models from Yes, Kolin Syntax and ViewSonic...
Any owners here of any of these brands? I've seen reviews on the Syntax but none so far for Yes and ViewSonic. Would appreciate any feedback. The Yes looks very nice at a low price.
The Syntax 32" SRP I think is 89K available fo 18 months 0% installment at Anson
Yes 32" = 84.5K available for 12 months 0% installment at Listening Group stores
ViewSonic 32" = 89K at Sights & Sounds - no installment plan
I'm also considering the Hitachi 32PD7800 plasma going for 119,500 if there are inputs also for this model
TIA ;D
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planning to get the 32" Syntax also .. is this 89k na lang sa ansons? What color is the frame of this unit? SILVER or BLACK? The Silver frame are the older units while the black frame are the newer ones.
Been searching also some reviews from the Viewsonic LCD monitor specifically the 27" - - it's a good LCD from the reviews I've read. Not sure about the 32" though.
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planning to get the 32" Syntax also .. is this 89k na lang sa ansons? What color is the frame of this unit? SILVER or BLACK? The Silver frame are the older units while the black frame are the newer ones.
Been searching also some reviews from the Viewsonic LCD monitor specifically the 27" - - it's a good LCD from the reviews I've read. Not sure about the 32" though.
The Syntax is the silver one but I may have the price wrong... the 26" one is 69K
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I have viewed these LCDs at different times. I was impressed by Viewsonic>Syntax>YES. IMHO ;D
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i'm impressed by the 20" Yes lcd with integrated dvd player though. pwede na for the price.(P34,500) 4:3 lang nga aspect ratio.
sir jeckjeck,
i've seen the 32pd7800 and am also impressed by the PQ. dunno how good it is with analog cable though.
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If that's the Yes... yes it is very nice but I found the picture on the dark side... well maybe baka calibration lang kailangan...
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Out of the 3 (YES, SYNTAX, VIEWSONIC) which is better???
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Out of the 3 (YES, SYNTAX, VIEWSONIC) which is better???
I would go with the Syntax, I read a review of the 32" viewsonic and it placed last among 5 brands, saw a unit at Anson when I was looking for my LCD, and I was not impressed with the .. I have not seen the YES brand yet.
BTW, Kolin Phil. does not make the Syntax, they are the service center for Syntax, Syntax is made in Taiwan and the company is a US based group of companies.
Maybe in a couple of years, Syntax will be as good as the mainstream brands of LCD, they are doing agressive marketing in the US (ala LG style).
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The Yes LCD TV is being offered now at 24 months installment at Listening Group stores but SRP is higher versus the 12 month plan... at 24 months, monthly installment is P3,950 for a total of P94,800 versus P84,500 for the 12 month plan...
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I have the syntax 42" plasma. Had it for 1.5 yrs already. very impressed. component video for my dvd and picture quality is great. and when i connect my pc to it, the colors of the pics are stunning!
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yeah Syntax has good reviews sa states.
Hopefully this brand get's cheaper here sa Pinas - - almost half the price siya sa Hong kong and US.
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If that's the Yes... yes it is very nice but I found the picture on the dark side... well maybe baka calibration lang kailangan...
yep it's not that detailed pero sa presyo mura kasi. i hope nga sa calibration lang.
so syntax is good huh? medyo pricey lang dito.
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Yes is priced at P79,500 at Ambassador and PriceSmart wala nga lang installment schemes... but price has been going down significantly since December... who knows baka in a few months nasa 60s or 50s na lang ito...
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Hi all, one more month and I'm ready to get my Plasma. It's been a long wait and now I'm ready but I'm still trying to figure out which one to get ???. Will this high def broadcast be available in the near future? Is it worth it? What are your thoughts on this one. Thanks. :)
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High Definition broadcast will not be in this country for a long while, unless the stations suddenly upgrade their broadcast equipment like what they are frantically doing in the US. But every indication points to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs and players to become prevalent locally within the next 2-3 years. As well as those PS3 and Xbox games. So you'd definitely be better with a true HDTV monitor. But be sure it's HDTV, not HD-ready. Ensure that the unit has HDMI terminals. Any so-called HDTV without cannot be HDTV but only HD ready. Digital tuners are also a must for HDTV. HDTV is DIGITAL, period. Units with only analogue tuners is a dead giveaway it is not HDTV. And it must be capable of at least 720p resolution. Because widescreen 1280 x 720 at 50hz progressive is the native HD resolution. Anything less is also a giveaway it is not HDTV.
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Hi all, one more month and I'm ready to get my Plasma. It's been a long wait and now I'm ready but I'm still trying to figure out which one to get ???. Will this high def broadcast be available in the near future? Is it worth it? What are your thoughts on this one. Thanks. :)
Hi I'm looking at getting a plasma as well what models are you looking at?
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There is a 50k difference between HD and EDTV.
I heard from a store that they recommend EDTV if you watch TV from your plasma, they had difficulty making HD units look good for our standard cable TV reception cuz its got higher resolution.
If you watch close to the TV, the pixels are quite visible with EDTVs. But this wont be a problem if you sit a good distance from the TV.
If you use the plasma only for movies and watch close to the TV, HD plasmas would be a better choice.
just my 2 cents
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Thanks alot for the replies, the plasma will be used mainly for videos and not for cable tv broadcast. I'm planning to get the 43" Pioneer w/c I think is an HDTV but some people suggest that the Samsung would also be a good choice :). Any comparison on the two? Thanks again.
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i think samsung is more famous for its lcd panel than plasma panels. for plasma, panasonic is one of the biggest player in that field.
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But every indication points to HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs and players to become prevalent locally within the next 2-3 years. As well as those PS3 and Xbox games. So you'd definitely be better with a true HDTV monitor.
Hi Av_Phile1,
Would an EDTV play blu ray movies and HD-DVD movies well too? I know theres a difference using a real HDTV but can it satisfactorily show the better features of the blu ray/hd dvd discs?
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Hi Av_Phile1,
Would an EDTV play blu ray movies and HD-DVD movies well too? I know theres a difference using a real HDTV but can it satisfactorily show the better features of the blu ray/hd dvd discs?
The problem is that most (if not all) EDTVs don't even have digital HDMI or DVI teminals that support HDCP that is the de facto protection standard and a must-have for all HD content in players and broadcasts, so how can they connect to a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player which have HDMI or DVI and expect HD content to pass thru?. If the player has component or S-video terminals, which I suspect they will have for downward compatibility, then expect a downsampling or downward transcription from the 720p resolution of the HD disc to your standard 480i DVD so you can play on an EDTV via analog connection. For sure the EDTV will display the video better than ordinary displays as they may do some upsampling (not so sure here as upsampling is often done thru DVI or HDMI terminals). But let me reiterate what is a unanimous observation/comment on most forums about HDTV: True HDTV will thrash any upsampled standard DVD.
So what happens is that your HD-DVD or blu ray player downsamples the video content to DVD level, converts it to analog and passes it as progressive video via component. Then the EDTV accepts the analog signal, converts it digital to be processed in the EDTV's native resolution. OTH, true HDTV is digital ALL the way from player to monitor. No conversion no upsampling (some maybe). The player's downsampling and conversion alone guarantees signal losses for the EDTV , so you can't benefit from the promise of HD.
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i think samsung is more famous for its lcd panel than plasma panels. for plasma, panasonic is one of the biggest player in that field.
According to an article, 2005's biggest plasma sellers:
1.) Panasonic
2.) LG
3.) Samsung
4.) Philips
5.) Hitachi
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anyone got complete specs for the syntax models?? particularly the 20inch and 27inch model? ano native resolution nito? planning to hook it up my PC.. anyone got the current price for these models???
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price of YES 32" at listening room down to 79,600 ( 12 months to pay at 0% )
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Really pays to wait. ;D
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Sir AV,
what do u think of the price of YES. Is it already worth it? If i were to ask you, do u prefer YES, SYNTAX OR VIEWSONIC?
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the syntax LCD TV is great, maybe you guys are interested: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50879.0
Only problem is you want a bigger one after you experience LCD TV. :D
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Sir AV,
what do u think of the price of YES. Is it already worth it? If i were to ask you, do u prefer YES, SYNTAX OR VIEWSONIC?
Sorry, would like to help but I have no prior knowledge or experience with any to state my preference. Their prices are genuinely attractive enough to consider. I am sure they will still go down further sooner or later. I suggest you do a google search on these to learn more and try to test each with a true HD source. Check to see of there's DVI and HDMI terminals - a must for High Definition future-proofing. And see if the native resolution is 720p or 1080i - the minimum for true HD. Lastly, stare on the screen for a few minutes at close range - say 1 foot away and no eyestrain or fatigue develops. Check first the Bravia LCD screens at any Sony Center and see if those brands are anywhere near the fantastic quality of those SOny LCDs.
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Thanks Sir AV
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Guys! Ive been in listening ro0m megamall and just saw the YES 32 priced at 79,600 12 mos 0% interest and the OXXO 32 priced at 69,950 12 mos 0& interest also. I'm planning to get one. Which of the two ,you think is the better one?
Any feedback? Thanks!
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I also saw this (OXXO LCD) in Listening Room in Megamall but the display showed some VCD Karaoke which really cannot maximize the LCD's potential. With that on demo, it wasn't appealing..... :-\
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Guys! up ko lang...need your reviews. thanks!
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Guys! reviews naman dyan!
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may built in tv tuners na ba yan?
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Odontek...HiDef na dapat! Kung kakayanin mo lang din naman, go for broke ika nga! Having an EDTV would be best kung puro SD broadcast kasi medyo exagerrated ang deficiencies ng SD broadcast sa HD na set. But if its gonna be for mostly DVDs, HD would shine. Match this with an upconverting DVD player and u'll be watching in HD glory...or at least near it. Another thing is, u'd be set for a couple more years. Granted no HD programming comes ur way in a few years but having an Xbox 360 sure gives u glorious 1080i gaming! HIndi ka na huli ika nga.
Don't know if I told u this yet, but my Panny upstairs is making me see that my pj donwstairs needs upgrading.
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Sabi dito, PS3 can play Blu-Ray in Full resolution even without the HDMI. (The $500 PS3 doesn't have HDMI out). ::)
http://www.realmmedia.com/next_gen_news/2006/05/sonys_lower_end_playstation_3_to_initially_play_blu_ray_movies_in_full_resolution.html
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Meron syang HDMI out.
http://www.ps3rules.com/ps3-specs.htm
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Hehehe Eric S kaya ba hindi ka sasama your saving for the upgrade??? ;D Padal mo na yang PJ mo sa akin para wala na excuse kundi kumuha ng bago. ;)
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Hi guys, thanks for all the help. Isa pang inquiry sana, I have decided to get an HD TV na delay lang ang purchase but I'm getting it this Sat but the thing is I cannot decide which one to get between the Pioneer PD 436HDG or the Hitachi PD428800TA. I have till saturday to decide so your commentaries regarding this two sets will be very welcome.
Does having 2 HDMI input help to make my investment future proof? Sorry for the ignorance but kahit anong basa ko ng reviews hindi ko maintindihan :'(. As always I just rely on you guys to help me make a better judgement.
I just bought an xbox 360 and HD daw ito but as i remember component lang ang connection nito. Saan ba ginagamit tong HDMI, paumanhin po ulit.
Salamat.
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My vote goes to the Hitachi
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Saan ba ginagamit tong HDMI, paumanhin po ulit.
HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
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The 360 would just have component but this would pass HD to ur plasma quite well. Wala pa yatang available na HDMI connect para sa 360.
The HDMI on ur plasma should be used for ur DVD player (make sure ur have it). I don't know what kind of player u have but for now, I would think the best would be an upconverting one outputting thru HDMI. Patok yan sir! Yung Panny namin gamit ko yung Norcent ko. Though component lang ang connect, di ko na makita ang diperensya sa HBO broadcast which is thru HDMI ng HDDVR ko.
At nga pala, Pioneer tayo tol!
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Hi Guys,
I'm about to buy a 32 inch LCD TV. What do you guys think is the better choice, factoring in Price and features.
For easier reference, here are the links:
http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=909&cat_id=3&subcat_id=29&subcat2_id=0
http://www.samsung.com/ph/products/tv/lcdtv/la32r71b.asp?page=Specifications
http://www.hitachiconsumer.com.my/32LD380TA.asp
The Sony is approximately 99K, and the Samsung is approximately 99K. Hitachi model is around 75-80K.
Thanks!
Edit: Comparison should be S series, and added the hitachi model
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I recently bought the samsung model, but if I have the money, I choose the sony bravia V series.
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Hi Turismo,
Kamusta naman performance? Happy with it? A Sony salesman told me that the 5000:1 contrast ration ng samsung was measured around the center daw. not sure what that means, but the Sony S Series was rated at 1300:1 lang.
Are you very satisfied with your purchase?
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I have tried it with dvd movies,xbox 360. so far the pq is ok for me. You just have to calibrate it. For this, I used DVE.
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kung S series lang ng Sony, I'd get the Samsung, no HDMI sa S series eh, but when you add the Hitachi, what model? I'd go for Hitachi
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darkwing,
here's the url for the Hitachi.
http://www.hitachiconsumer.com.my/32LD380TA.asp
Its the 32LD380TA model.
Regards,
fong
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If Samsung and the Sony S Series (They are priced the same), Samsung ka na lang.
The Sony S Series has no HDMI.
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I'd still go with the hitachi
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Go for HDMI connected set-up. Use branded cable. I've got the Samsung 32R71.
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Sony is KLV-V32A10 Multi System Pero sa picture Quality Maganda din wala lang HDMI Sa Ngayon naman Component parin ang prioity EH.
tapos kung mas maganda sony V Series or pioneer parin na plasma.
mas malakas kasi sa power ang lcd kaysa sa plasma.
much ang v series ng sony at plasma ng pioneer.
base on my experience.
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kaya lang ang V series ng Sony is 50% more expensive :(
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darkwing,
why would you choose the hitachi model? comments?
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based on internet reviews and this thread
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=48577.0
actually i've been look around, for me mas nice ang PQ ng hitachi, and slightly cheaper siya and theres also a newer model
http://www.hitachiconsumer.com/ph/products/proddetails.aspx?tid=81&cid=129&pid=138
but this is slightly more expensive too, its best if you check the products in question, ganda nga ng V series ng sony but not worth the 59k price difference!!!! (between the competing 32 inch models/brands)
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based on internet reviews and this thread
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=48577.0
actually i've been look around, for me mas nice ang PQ ng hitachi, and slightly cheaper siya and theres also a newer model
http://www.hitachiconsumer.com/ph/products/proddetails.aspx?tid=81&cid=129&pid=138
but this is slightly more expensive too, its best if you check the products in question, ganda nga ng V series ng sony but not worth the 59k price difference!!!! (between the competing 32 inch models/brands)
saan ba meron Hitachi 32LD8800TA at ano ang price?
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saan ba meron Hitachi 32LD8800TA at ano ang price?
I'm here in Cebu though, cheapest I could find and it was on sale a few weeks ago at 99k at Soundroom
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Hi,
Question lang. Yung Multi Picture function ba ng mga LCDs includes all sources? For example, pwede ka bang manood ng cable habang nanood ng DVD? For those with PC input, pwede ka bang magcomputer habang nanonood ng cable o dvd? TIA. :)
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Months ago i have the same prob as u... V32A10 vs LA 32R71b... but settled w/t Samsung coz of the price diff. & trade-in promo up for grap at that time. Also take note that Sony Asia haven't release the true Bravia Engine still offering the Wega Engine expect this upgrade in the next Bravia model. As for my Summy i love the picture quality & its design. My only cons is has a poor sound quality esp at ur local tv & no Multi-PIP tuner. But your surround sound setup is the solution! Finaly if you have the MONEY go SONY but is VALUE your MONEY go with Samsung. Actual testing still the best option. :D
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Yup, laki talaga kasi ng price diff, last time i checked 60k yung diff, so better value either Samsung/Hitachi for now
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@odontek
so which unit did you end up buying? :)
Hi guys, thanks for all the help. Isa pang inquiry sana, I have decided to get an HD TV na delay lang ang purchase but I'm getting it this Sat but the thing is I cannot decide which one to get between the Pioneer PD 436HDG or the Hitachi PD428800TA. I have till saturday to decide so your commentaries regarding this two sets will be very welcome.
Does having 2 HDMI input help to make my investment future proof? Sorry for the ignorance but kahit anong basa ko ng reviews hindi ko maintindihan :'(. As always I just rely on you guys to help me make a better judgement.
I just bought an xbox 360 and HD daw ito but as i remember component lang ang connection nito. Saan ba ginagamit tong HDMI, paumanhin po ulit.
Salamat.
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Finally got my Samsung LA32R71B. Got it for 89k with the HTIB P10 and 18 months. 0% interest in Abenson Glorietta. I think its a pretty good deal. Hooked it up to cable and picture was great out of the box. Connected by XBOX 360 and hello HD experience. Overall I'm happy with my purchase. Although, its only been 2 days sicne I got the TV. My only complaint was the remote it came with didn't come with AAA batteries like most TV sets do. Funny they overlooked such a small detail. Had to go out to the nearest ministop to go get batteries. But if you're comparing it to the V series then I think the PQ of the V series is definitely much better. I was sitting right beside the V series while waiting for the sales dude to get everything in order for my purchase and colors were really so much more vibrant and alive but it was almost double the price of the samsung. The S series of Sony though sucks when compared to other LCDs, i feel like the colors are all wrong, could be just the setting.
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hi pilsen,
what's the total bill? 89K which includes TV, phone and at 18 months to pay?
I'm almost sold na dun sa samsung. now i have to look for the stores that offer the best deals. yung hitachi kasi bka may problema sa warranty...
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mga bros ok ba ung syntax lcd??? meron ako nakita gateway 32 inch widescreen at napaka affordable price nya for a student like me, 80k sya, tapos 2 yrs to pay 0 interest. ang model num nya is SLC-3218
HDTV ready na sya.
170 degree viewing angle
16:9 aspect ratio
picture freeze
progressive scan
SRS surround system
1366x768xRGB
12 ms
ok na po ito, planning to buy kase next month. pang xbox 360 ko ito at pang DVD viewing po. :)
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i got the Samsung one. i brought a Spiderman orig DVD to the store and compared the samsung and the bravia S series. Mas maganda ung colors ng samsung. also, i also tried to play a DIVX encoded Lost on DVDR on the samsung home theater, it played soooooooooooo gooood HDTV tlga. the DVDR didnt play on the sony player (and to think Sony pa DVD+R ko hahaha). i got a deal na 87,000 with trade up, and the home theater to boot (included in the price). kaya lang cash upfront siya.
but the guy offered me 99,900 for the TV, free cellphone, home theater at 12 months 0% interest. so i guess it wont be hard to get the unit with home theater at 89,900 (w/ trade up, no free cellphone) at 12 months
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dapat fair
compair it to hdtv to hdtv
480p to 480p
720p to 720p comparison para maganda ang laban
An HDTV-compatible TV usually uses a 16:9 aspectratio. The high resolution images (1920 pixels × 1080 lines or 1280 pixels × 720 lines) allow much more detail to be showncompared to analog television or regular DVDs. MPEG-2 is currently used as thecompression codec. The images are expected to be at least 6 times as sharp as standard definition television or analog television. Like NTSC and PAL, most 1920 × 1080 broadcasts use interlacing to reduce bandwidth demands. Alternating scan lines are broadcast 60 times a second, similar toNTSC's 60 Hz interlacing. This format is entitled 1080i, or 1080i60. In areastraditionally using PAL 50 Hz 1080i50 is also used. Progressivescan formats are also used with frame rates up to 60 per second. The 1280 × 720 format in practice is always progressive scan (with the entire frame refreshed each time) and is thustermed 720p. Several US broadcasters currently broadcast 720p60 content. A mix ofinterlaced and progressive scan is also encountered, where the 1080i60 (or 50) signal can be deinterlaced by simple weaving of fields to frames, giving in effect a 1080p30 (or 25) image.
A progressive-scan image is painted onto a screen as one swath, rather than two passes needed for interlaced TV. Progressive scan approach produces a more stable, solid picture. The resulting boost in image quality is awesome. In fact, some people believe that the difference between interlaced and progressive TV is more striking than the difference between standard and High-Definition digital TV.
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total bill is 89900. 18 months to pay. ) % interest with free home theater in a box. HT P-10.
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pilsen! san mo nakuha yung samsung deal mo? sino hahanapin ko? para di nako makipagtawaran ;D
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wow ang galing maki pag haggle ni pilsen ;D...
total bill is 89900. 18 months to pay. ) % interest with free home theater in a box. HT P-10.
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pilsen,
actually got the same deal! ginamit ko lang reference mo para sabihin na "barkada" ko naka kuha! ehhehe
lookg for bong iglesias guys, siya tumulong sa akin.
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good good. ;D Happy to share my bargain hunting adventures.
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Abenson Glorietta. ;D
pilsen! san mo nakuha yung samsung deal mo? sino hahanapin ko? para di nako makipagtawaran ;D
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hmm can you post more specs like contrast ratio/input (HDMI?), response time etc :)
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I'm a proud owner of Syntax Olevia 27". One year na ito sa akin, so far wala pang problema. ;)
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Sntax Olevia is a good brand. I was supposed to buy one late last year but instead decided to get a projector. Where did you see the unit? They offer 2 years to pay 0% interest?? hmm ...
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You can also consider the 32" Samsung R71 you can get it for 89900 18 months 0% interest and includes a samsung HTIB ;D
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thanks pilsen sa info
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Hi Antski, got the Pioneer ;). Thanks to all the guys who shared their thoughts into this thread. ;)
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Hi Antski, got the Pioneer ;). Thanks to all the guys who shared their thoughts into this thread. ;)
COngrats! :D
From what store did you buy the unit and how much?
Whats your other equipment for the plasma like DVD player etc?
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HITACHI 32LD380TA
LG 32LX2R
Samsung 32 ???R71 (sorry di ko kabisado. nakita ko palang kanina)
All have HDMI and very good PQ. Help me decide pls. Sa features nalang magkakatalo. All are priced almost the same.
Inputs please.
Tnx.
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Pre,
Have this 3 units tested using your XBOX 360.
If ok, then consider tech support / customer service.
If ok still, do more research on the performance.
Kung alin don ang nagustuhan mo, yon ang bilhin mo.
Think wisely kung saan mo talaga paggagamitan.
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I'm leaning on the Pioneer na rin.
@mika888
try mo ung Toyoma sa West Avenue.
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Whats your other equipment for the plasma like DVD player etc?
Rotel RSX 1065
Rotel RDV 1080
JM Labs Cobalt 816 FS / SW800 / 806
I ended up getting the older model the PDP 4345HDG, got a good deal from D'Cinema in Style in Festival Mall Alabang.
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haaaa
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pilsen,
actually got the same deal! ginamit ko lang reference mo para sabihin na "barkada" ko naka kuha! ehhehe
lookg for bong iglesias guys, siya tumulong sa akin.
may trade in ka ba na old TV??
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may trade in ka ba na old TV??
kent bumili ka na ba ng samsung lcd? sabi ni bong from abenson sa iyo daw ibibigay yung approved deal that he got for me....saka na kasi ako kuha when the house is ready na
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@ yaki
sa may 4th floor ata ng gateway, ung automatic center, meron din sa glorieta.sm north wala syntax. parang napapalapit ako sa samsung slim fit tv 32 inch widescreen dahil may 720p pala sya,sabi nung salesman wala daw 480p at 1080i lang kaso kanina pumunta ako glorieta,sa 29 inch nila slim fit,may sticker na nakalagay na HD ready 720p at 1080i. besides mas mura pa sya ng almost 30k. ano po tingin nyo,ano po bilhin ko??? the LCD or the samsung??? pang lalaro ko ito ng xbox 360 at pang dvd ko din. :)
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kent bumili ka na ba ng samsung lcd? sabi ni bong from abenson sa iyo daw ibibigay yung approved deal that he got for me....saka na kasi ako kuha when the house is ready na
yes sir hopefully bukas.. :)
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may trade in ka ba na old TV??
yup, a non working 21 inch hitachi TV
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kentuy,
nope, wala na TV.
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@ yaki
sa may 4th floor ata ng gateway, ung automatic center, meron din sa glorieta.sm north wala syntax. parang napapalapit ako sa samsung slim fit tv 32 inch widescreen dahil may 720p pala sya,sabi nung salesman wala daw 480p at 1080i lang kaso kanina pumunta ako glorieta,sa 29 inch nila slim fit,may sticker na nakalagay na HD ready 720p at 1080i. besides mas mura pa sya ng almost 30k. ano po tingin nyo,ano po bilhin ko??? the LCD or the samsung??? pang lalaro ko ito ng xbox 360 at pang dvd ko din. :)
If you have the space at home, go for the slimfit. CRT displays are still the best so far for this size, specially when it come to black levels (w/c LCD TVs are poor in). LCD TVs boast contrast ratios of 1,000-3,000:1, from a HT mag I reada Toshibba 34" CRT TV's contrast ratio is at 34k:1!!!
But if you are space restrained (condo living) & "japorms" is in your criteria...go for the LCD ;)
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Good Day,
Need Help Deciding which one to get.
->SONY
PROS:
1. Vibrant Colors
2. WEGA Engine
3. PIP(dual tuner)
4. USB
CONS:
1. Smallest screen size from the group
2. No disount from SRP
3. Wallmount not included
->SAMSUNG
PROS:
1. Largest screen size from the group
2. Lots of freebies
3. Discount from SRP
4. Extended Warranty(up to 15 months)
5. Best Costumer Support?
CONS:
1. Color Seems Pale compare to SONY
2. PAP(Works only thru HDMI) no dual tuner
3. Aesthetics(just me)
->TOSHIBA
PROS:
1. Prize is cheaper compare to samsung and sony(based on SRP and per inch prize)
2. Feature packed among the three
3. PIP(dual tuner)
4. Bridge Media(Memory Card Slot)
5. HDMIx2
CONS:
1. Response time is: 10ms compare to samsung and sony at 8 ms
2. Warranty issues
3. Wallmount not included
Any Comments/suggestions/recommendations will be much appreciated TIA.
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Need help lang from the experts, please help my brother from this two products, which is better kaya?
http://www.sony.com.ph/wega/detail.asp?product_id=918&cat_id=3&subcat_id=32&subcat2_id=0
144,990 pesos MODEL KF-E42A10
http://www.samsung.com.ph/
127,000 pesos MODEL SP-42L6HR
I was telling him to get the Samsung, but you may have other thoughts that can help us. Thank you Sir's.
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hi there! i'd like to know if which is better? i'm planning to buy kasi and they almost have the same price..i'm just a bit confuse which one to buy..hope anyone could help..thanks!
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From experience...
We had 10+ sony appliances in my folk's house (CD player, video players, TVs, camcorder, stereo etc..),
in 3-5 years time -all- of them had problems.
This does not include friends and relatives who also have SONY reliability problems.
I had 1 samsung TV, bought in 1989, and retired it 2003, it was still working.
I have banned any purchase of SONY products in my household.
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I'm for the Samsung LCD.
I don't want to choose any Plasma (gives off more heat, plus LCD is better on the eyes, and is really better than Plasma - "daw".
I even heard (rumor) Sony is stopping research on Plasma and is moving to LCD purely.
I managed to compare Samsung 40" LCD with it's DLP cousin (52") side-by-side. The DLP is faded (less bright, less sharp, less intense colors, but it might have been cheaper...coz everyone is going towards LCD/Plasma). DLP projection TV will not last as long as LCD (need to change the bulbs/lamps at around 10000 hrs). LCD may have the problem of "dead pixels". Plasma...burn out... all have their problems....
The Samsung 32" and 40" LCD basically had the same color intensity, brightness and sharpness.
See at Western/Festival Mall Alabang for Samsung side-by-side.
But If you can do a side-by-side comparison with the other sets, that would be better. Note the ambient light (is it dark or bright in the room?, and that they may not have adjusted the colors/brightness/tint on the other sets, so you can't even compare them properly.
oh btw, my HT room pictures:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55046.msg601343#msg601343
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um, this is hardly quantified by a long shot, but let me tell you my story.
i've been looking for a big screen tv for the longest time, i've considered technologies from dlp (not my type, distance required and rainbow effect), lcd rptv (sony ones sucked for me, ugly colours, limited connectivity), to plasma (burn in issues for games, high def is expensive), to lcd (bad as of last year).
then i accidentally saw the thread on the samsung 32" r71b's, then i got back to looking again. i was amazed: lcd tvs have progressed sooo far from just last year.
so, i looked and looked: 32" tvs were a tad too small, and since i could budget a bit more, i looked at 40"'s. that got me to choosing between the hitachi 37" 8800's and the samsung 40" r71's.
the hitachi was amazing. lots of connectivity options (2x hdmi, dual tuner, usb photo, sd card reader) and nice colour management/control (something you can only find in m61 series samsung lcds). the deal was even sweeter, the hitachi folks were able to give me lower than srp (172k) and longer than 12 month terms (i dont really want to divulge terms as some folks might get angry, but go to western megamall for a nice deal, talk to albert :>) PLUS a DVD handicam (dvd-ram/-r cartridges).
samsung, on the other hand, has limited features vis a vis the hitachi, at a more expensive price 180k. they had a 24 month 0 interest deal going, but your free celphone (a d820 slider phone, nifty :D) can't be had for free at this price. i haggled it to 18mo with free celphone but the monthly price was too steep.
anyway, i eventually settled for the larger size samsung, as the stock was already available (hitachi would take 3-5 days), and since i'm stuck between the two of these sets, i chose availability as my final criteria :P
well, i'm watching matrix revolutions right now and i have to say that it just rocks. even with a cheapo dvd player with component cables, it rocks so hard. the blacks (which i am sensitive to) are deep enough for me. the clarity of images is razor sharp and i dont see much by way of shimmering. in short, its well worth it.
as someone else said: lacking any other comparison to compare your purchase with when it gets installed to your room, the sheer size, resolution and wow factor would override any doubts that you had when you get your set. just follow the simple rule of buying the best you can afford. you'd prolly do well to compare after sales service more than anything, oh, and do look around for good deals: you can haggle, even with 12/18/24 0 interest deals.
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i've always bought sony tv's ... we've had 20+ TVs the past 20 years (many rooms kasi) ... none of them had any problems.
pero kung laser disc player, betamax, cd player, radio, receiver, component or kahit anong sony na HINDI TV ... yun ang 100% probability of masisira.
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From experience...
We had 10+ sony appliances in my folk's house (CD player, video players, TVs, camcorder, stereo etc..),
in 3-5 years time -all- of them had problems.
This does not include friends and relatives who also have SONY reliability problems.
I had 1 samsung TV, bought in 1989, and retired it 2003, it was still working.
I have banned any purchase of SONY products in my household.
We purchased a sony television (our first colored television) in 1982 had problems with the power switch got it fixed and it is still running up to now we gave it to the neighbours......I think the problems started when they sub contracted a local firm to assemble their equipment.....now that they are just importing the stuff quality has gotten better...
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Talking or Reliability.
We bought a Sony 21" Black Trinitron in 1990.
Hanggang ngayon gumagana pa din. Except that madilim na naga lang.
A Sony Betamax bought in 1991, ok pa din til now.
A Sony VHS bought in 2000, ok pa din til now.
A Sony Karaoke in 1994, radyo na lang gumagana. Tape Deck Sira na.
A Sony Mini Compm in 1994, Totally Sira na.
A New Sony 29" TV in 2004, ok pa naman til now.
I think the case with units na nasisira agad is case to case basis.
Depende din kasi kung paano mo gamitin.
So, you cannot make a general comment na sirain ang isang brand.
Meron nga kami ELECTOWN na turntable bought in 1996, hanggang ngayon gumagana pa din.
Hindi pa nasisira.
Although I have a PS2 bought in 2000, now the lens is dead.
And angmahal magpagawa kaya di ko na pinagawa.
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i've always bought sony tv's ... we've had 20+ TVs the past 20 years (many rooms kasi) ... none of them had any problems.
pero kung laser disc player, betamax, cd player, radio, receiver, component or kahit anong sony na HINDI TV ... yun ang 100% probability of masisira.
Yung handycam naman that we purchased last year ok pa naman siya.....but I did buy a sony stereo component system a few years ago after a week na sira kaagad I got a sony technician to fix it but the problem never went away.....
The 42" na sony lcd projection tv is actually on my list as well as the samsung dlp....for me mas maganda yung colors ng sony pero the black levels of the dlp seem better....tingnan mo din yung toshiba na dlp parang mas maganda siya...
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Yung handycam naman that we purchased last year ok pa naman siya.....but I did buy a sony stereo component system a few years ago after a week na sira kaagad I got a sony technician to fix it but the problem never went away.....
The 42" na sony lcd projection tv is actually on my list as well as the samsung dlp....for me mas maganda yung colors ng sony pero the black levels of the dlp seem better....tingnan mo din yung toshiba na dlp parang mas maganda siya...
Hey Drac,
any idea how much the toshiba is? Ambassador App. is giving me a better deal for the Samsung, 112K lang. Sa Abenson kasi ako nagtanong ng 127k. So my Kuya has until the end of the month to decide. Itong utol ko kasi naniniwala sa mga ahente, kaya kailangang alalayan. Thanks!!
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guys, does hitachi have good customer support and service? thanks! I'm looking at the 37LD8800TA kasi. You guys have any comment on this model? thanks again!
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Im not sure about their service but i know their service center. I went there before to demo a projector and they were very helpful. I hope it is an indication of their aftersales support
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I tried comparing the 3 brands when I was helping my client setup his hometheater. I find the Hitachi having the best video but overall we chose the Samsung because of the service and the freebies plus the video defference wasnt really big.
My 1 cent advise.
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the LG 32LX2R looks nice. At the mega trade hall its being sold for 81k w/ the 5.1 surround and dvd karaoke. im really thinking of buying one. if anybody is interested in the 5.1 htib lmk ..:D
btw, here is a thread at avsforum
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=614423&highlight=32lx2r
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Hi as far as i know LG & Hitachi uses the same panel.
but choose nalang between the 3 of them w/c is better on after sales service. ;)
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I find it weird that they can give a price of 89900 for a zero interest transaction on the R71 but the best discount they can give you for a cash transaction is 4k off the srp ???
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Our DEAD Sonys:
When two(2) brand new Sony TVs from the USA, one (1) from Japan, and one (1) locally purchased are all DEAD within 5 years, plus also DEAD: 2 Betamax, 1 camcorder, 1 discman, 1 dedicated cassette deck, 1 disc carousel for a mini-compo, 1 walkman (and this is just us, not including officemates, relatives, friends)
while one (1) JVC TV (5 years old),
a 1989 Samsung TV ,
and here's the killer: Three (3) second-hand-from-the-pier toshiba TVs are still working even after 5 years,
I think this tells me just how bad Sony quality is all about...
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=55263.0
Oh, and the same goes for Viewsonic CRTs....five(5) DEAD in 3 years.
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Hey Drac,
any idea how much the toshiba is? Ambassador App. is giving me a better deal for the Samsung, 112K lang. Sa Abenson kasi ako nagtanong ng 127k. So my Kuya has until the end of the month to decide. Itong utol ko kasi naniniwala sa mga ahente, kaya kailangang alalayan. Thanks!!
112k for the samsung sounds like a good deal....the toshiba kasi is a bit pricey and no good deals to be had from the stores except for 0% interest last time i checked it retailed for 169k but that's the 52" model so if you think about it 169k isn't all that bad....
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LG is the best, the price is lower than samsung. about 40k and differents nila. and LG 100,000 hrs samsung 60,000 hrs
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how much pioneer PD 436HDG? and Hitachi 42PD8800TA?
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how much pioneer PD 436HDG? and Hitachi 42PD8800TA?
A dealer friend of mine sells the pioneer 436HDG @ 189k. :)
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how much pioneer PD 436HDG? and Hitachi 42PD8800TA?
hitachi 42pd8800ta 175k cash at shangri la
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Anyone tried the LG 32LC2R? It's a newer model to the 32LX2R. The contrast ratio is improved from 1200:1 to 1600:1. The PIP input options are better than Samsung's 32R71.
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mga bros, before kasi, samsung na talaga yung gusto ko bilihin.. then lumabas yung promo for sharp aquos.. just want to know your opinions... pros and cons etc... TYIA! ;D
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I think Samsung is the world's biggest producer of LCD panels, but Sharp commands more than 50% of uber-quality-conscious, always top-of-the-line and cutting-edge Japanese market.
In any case, both are very reliable and popular brands so let your own eyes decide. If you can actually watch an HD content on either one, I think you'd be satisfied just the same.
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Sharp is the market leader in LCD production, acting as OEMs for many brands, not only TVs, but laptops, computers and cellphones and any gadget using LCD displays. Samsung also OEMs for many brands, including SONY's Bravia, but relatively newer to the business. And are said to be cheaper, being Korean-sourced. So with all things equal, it's possible the Samsung brand can deliver more value in terms of price/performance.
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whoa have narrowed down my search for my startup HT and the finalists are these two.
samsung la32r71b and sony 32s200a
my questions are: which among them...
a. better in terms of broadcast/dvd video
b. sound quality
c. future proofing (can handle future technologies)
d. overall value for the buck.
thanks in advance.
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whoa have narrowed down my search for my startup HT and the finalists are these two.
samsung la32r71b and sony 32s200a
my questions are: which among them...
a. better in terms of broadcast/dvd video
I would only speak for the sony 32s200a because that's what I bought over the samsung la32r71b. For me, cable TV reception was better than expected. Of course it is nowhere near DVD quality but it's better than the Sony Wega 25" TV that it replaced. It seems the bravia engine helps in cleaning away the TV reception noise specially for scenes where there is not much motion.
As to DVD playback, I think it's as good as the Samsung.
b. sound quality
Consider the LCDTV's built-in speakers as insignificant, as if they put it there as an afterthought. However, the Sony's tuner has stereo decoding. I heard the Samsung's tuner is mono.
I got the DAV-DZ520K with the LCD and I would say it's worth choosing the Sony over the Samsung because of this HT system.
c. future proofing (can handle future technologies)
Both have HDMI. The Sony has really no PIP like Samsung's because you can only combine a moving picture inside a frozen captured picture.
The Sony HT system can play DIVX avi files up to 720 x 576 resolution. This even beats the Pioneer Divx players which can't play these files. However, the Sony DAV-DZ520K can't handle XVID files normally download via BitTorrent. I fixed it by using abcAVI Tag editor to patch the fourCC code to DIVX before burning them to CDs.
d. overall value for the buck.
Because of Sony's promo, you can get discount vouchers for buying other Sony's products like the home theater and a digicam. You get the most if you are paying in cash. If paying cash, the over-all value for the buck is better than Samsung's.
See this related thread:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=52098.28
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I agree. ;D. As I also chose a Sony LCD over the Samsung.
The Bravia is good at SD Sources based on the "internet" research I have done
and actual audition from the stores.
But you can have the final answer.
I suggest you audition between your two choices and bring your own gears
to the store and connect it to your choice of LCD.
I myself brought my own DVD Player and my PS2 sa Ansons Park Square to test with the Bravia and Samsung. The Bravia seems better in handling the PS2 Graphics based on my audition.
Additional advice pa.
If you can still find a 32-inch V Series Bravia, yon ang kunin mo.
The V Series has more features and better PQ than the Sony S200A Series.
The 32 V has been marked down and now being sold at 109k. Same price as the 32 S200.
Good luck sa paghahanap mo ng 32V. There is a review of this model at CNET.
May nakita pa akong 32V Sa Avant Abenson sa Greenbelt Walkway.
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thanks guys for the input!
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To those who have seen both display regular cable television programs and regular DVDs, which is better? And how is the best compared to a regular CRT?
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-both has a contrast ratio of 3000:1
-the S7 is bigger but but r7 looks better
-price difference is 10k
do you think picture quality will be the same with the contrast ratio of 3,000:1 considering the size difference? or it won't matter? i'm willing to shell out 10k more to get the bigger size, but if the PQ is better with R7 I'll go with smaller one... I'll be using it more for HD Gaming, DVDs come in second. Thanks guys!
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-both has a contrast ratio of 3000:1
-the S7 is bigger but but r7 looks better
-price difference is 10k
do you think picture quality will be the same with the contrast ratio of 3,000:1 considering the size difference? or it won't matter? i'm willing to shell out 10k more to get the bigger size, but if the PQ is better with R7 I'll go with smaller one... I'll be using it more for HD Gaming, DVDs come in second. Thanks guys!
well, we've got the LA32S71B... I don't even set it to maximum contrast.... sobrang liwanag, nakaka-strain ng eyes.... 8)
if LA32S71B is compared to LA26R71B, definitely i'll choose the LA32S71B... they've got almost the same features anyway.... both has:
*6.4 Billion Color Expression
*3,000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio
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Thanks for the tip bro! how do you find the black level compared to the r71?
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Thanks for the tip bro! how do you find the black level compared to the r71?
black level? errr... yun ang isang kulang sa S71 series I should say... Maganda talaga black level ng R71.... :-[
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thanks for the tip bro... will make up my mind over the weekend . ;D