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Entertainment => Film & TV Talk => Television => Topic started by: indie boi on Aug 21, 2006 at 08:14 PM
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The show's about to debut on September 14. According to rumors and supposed pictures circulating on the internet, the groups for this season will be segregated in a vastly different and potentially controversial way -- the 4 groups will supposedly be lumped together by race.
For years, I've always dreamed of a day when Survivor would actually play the race card and it looks like it is going to happen. Hopefully it will be as controversial and incendiary as I have dreamt it to be.
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...and the Hidden Immunity Idol to really come into play. ;D
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I'm getting my Survivor fix by watching Celebrity Survivor: Vanuatu (http://au.yahoo.com/celebrity-survivor) hosted by Dicko until the American version starts up again. ;D
But I have a weird feeling that Cook Islands and the next one will be the last two seasons for the US franchise.
Check in about a year if I was right... ;D
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SURVIVOR: COOK ISLANDS CONTESTANT INFO
-- http://www.survivorfever.net/s13_contestants.html
Interesting...The African-American tribe has a 45y.o., while the other 4 ranges from 26 to 35y.o.; The Asian-American tribe has a 42y.o., while the other 4 ranges from 28 to 36y.o.; The Hispanic tribe is almost balance, ranges from 25 to 36 y.o.; and the Prejudice tribe has a 44 y.o., while the rest...ranges from 23 to 28 y.o.
The women are almost balance...with 5 in their early/late 20's and 5 in their early/late 30's... ;D
The men will be more troublesome...with 3 almost in their 40's, 1 in his late 30's, 2 in their early 30's and 4 in their early/late 20's...Age/Generation Gap? Hmmm...
I think the race card will only be an appetizer...when, let's say 2 to 4 are voted-off from the original 20...they will do what they usually does and mixed them up into 2 teams...
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I'm getting my Survivor fix by watching Celebrity Survivor: Vanuatu (http://au.yahoo.com/celebrity-survivor) hosted by Dicko until the American version starts up again. ;D
But I have a weird feeling that Cook Islands and the next one will be the last two seasons for the US franchise.
Check in about a year if I was right... ;D
Hankey, have you seen any badmouthing being thrown David Oldfield's way? That guy had the reputation of Hitler in the 90s along with Pauline Hanson. Too bad they didn't include Hanson.
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Hankey, have you seen any badmouthing being thrown David Oldfield's way?
Yeah, his bio on the site actually mentions that. So far, he hasn't created waves on the show, and there haven't been any barbs. Maybe when the tribes are shuffled, since the female team seems to have the more politically outspoken members.
Back on topic, the Survivor: Cook Islands Official Site (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13) is up.
I'm surprised to see Jonathan Penner on the show. Do any of you guys remember him from The Naked Truth, that really bad Tea Leoni sitcom that used to air on the i-Channel? He must be in dire need of any exposure to jumpstart his career, since I haven't seen him in anything since that show got cancelled maybe a decade ago?
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I read somewhere that there are two Fil-Ams in there. I think Jenny (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/survivors/bio_brad.shtml) is one, is Brad (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/survivors/bio_brad.shtml) the other one?
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I read somewhere that there are two Fil-Ams in there. I think Jenny (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/survivors/bio_brad.shtml) is one, is Brad (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13/survivors/bio_brad.shtml) the other one?
I guess. Virata just seems like a completely Pinoy name among Asians... is it?
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The vietnamese guy looks like a cross between that oriental character actor who has long hair and kitaro. The asian team looks like a bunch of go-getters this may create immediate internal conflict. The Virata guy looks gay though -- not that there's anything wrong about it! (Channeling Seinfeld!)
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Yeah, his bio on the site actually mentions that. So far, he hasn't created waves on the show, and there haven't been any barbs. Maybe when the tribes are shuffled, since the female team seems to have the more politically outspoken members.
Back on topic, the Survivor: Cook Islands Official Site (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor13) is up.
I'm surprised to see Jonathan Penner on the show. Do any of you guys remember him from The Naked Truth, that really bad Tea Leoni sitcom that used to air on the i-Channel? He must be in dire need of any exposure to jumpstart his career, since I haven't seen him in anything since that show got cancelled maybe a decade ago?
jonathan penner has been popping up on TV every now and then... all just guest-starring roles tho. i remember him best for "the last supper" with cameron diaz... that movie was probably on HBO asia's "heavy rotation list" for a while cause i saw it all the time a couple of years ago. LOL.
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NYC officials want new 'Survivor' pulled (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060825/ap_en_tv/survivor_19)
Burnett has succeeded in reviving interest in his aging franchise. I don't understand the brouhaha but the experiment should be very interesting for TV.
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Americans are quite sensitive to any issue that involves race because they'd like to live in their make believe world where they think racism never exists in their f'ed up country. A concept like the one being used by survivor right now hits just a little too close to home.
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Yeah. I find the race division they did rather TAME, actually. Had I been the show's producers I would've cast the tribes this way:
Aryans
Jews
Arabs
Lebanese
Now THAT would've been be must-see TV. ;D
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you can always trust americans to take political correctness to an absurd degree... naturally, i can't help but wonder if all this brouhaha is just publicity to drum up interest in the show. LOL.
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Yeah. I find the race division they did rather TAME, actually. Had I been the show's producers I would've cast the tribes this way:
Aryans
Jews
Arabs
Lebanese
Now THAT would've been be must-see TV. ;D
Now that is a concept that should be explored for next season. You should also add fundamentalist/ultra conservative catholics into the mix.
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Studio 23 Schedule:
"Live" Satellite Broadcast: Fridays, 1:00PM (Starting September 15)
Replay: Saturdays, 7:30PM
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Studio 23 Schedule:
"Live" Satellite Broadcast: Fridays, 1:00PM (Starting September 15)
Replay: Saturdays, 7:30PM
Oh, sure..."LIVE Via Satellite"...the most overused/abused word on TV...
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Just a couple of hours more. Hopefully this is going to be an interesting season, for the past few survivors, my interest was only piqued for two episodes and then I get bored.
The Survivor concept that I really want to see is "the Lord of The Flies" -- now that I would watch faithfully.
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Did anyone else get a déjà vu from the show's opening? Except for the "segregated by races" part, it looked and felt almost exactly like Survivor 1.
From her very first "confessional," I like Jenny already. I'm not even sure if it's because of her or because she's Pinay. But she seems like a pleasant person.
The Asians rule!
Two thoughts on the racial issues:
1. The Reward/Immunity Challenge outcome was INDEED a racial stereotype when you consider who came in first and who came in last.
2. The most racist comment I heard was from the person sent to Exile Island when the Exile Island segment began.
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I knew the order of the outcome would immediately be seen as stereotypical.
One interesting thing I have noticed while watching the first episode is that you really can't help but root for the people of the same race even if you think to to yourself that you won't do it consciously. And there is actual racial pride if your "team" does well. I was practically pumping my fist in the air when the race ended.
Go Asians!!
Racial stereotyping is starting to happen though -- when the preview for the next episode was shown and a problem of one of the teams came up you couldn't help but say "ah, typical ____. They really love their breaks."
By the way, I don't like the twist at the end of each race. Seasoned Survivor veterans what do you think? Was this the same dynamic used in Survivor: Exile Island? I really can't remember because I only watched like the first episode of that season.
This might prove to be a very interesting season.
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Asians rule! Hope the two Pinoys are in for the long haul although most reality writers are betting on Yul to win it all. Dalton Ross, who was in the island during the first episode's filming, observes that they also had the best camp.
It looks like the African-Americans are going to get Pagong-ed or worse, Ulong-ed. ;D
If I remember correctly, it was the winning tribe that chose who gets to go to Exile Island. I didn't like the twist now but it helps that it did not force the Asian tribe to make enemies this early.
If the first episode were any indicator, this may be the engaging edition since Palau.
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hu hu hu :'( I missed the replay. Only read this thread just now!!! :'(
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Asians RULE! And Yul is their Emperor! ;D
But they've really made themselves targets with back-to-back wins. I will bet you that they will be the first targeted after any merges/tribal shuffles that will happen.
Other thoughts:
1. It was really funny at the start - Whites did NOTHING and were celebrating the return of Jonathan, Black were celebrating finally creating fire, Hispanics were celebrating catching one chicken, and Asians were celebrating catching TWO chickens. I said it before, I'll say it again: Asians RULE!
2. With the smaller tribes, the Asians were correct in creating a lean-to as their shelter. It's all you'll need for a group of five. Asians RU-(ah, never mind, you know that by now)
3. If you're gonna try to throw a challenge, you shouldn't be that obvious about it.
4. That was the FUNNIEST tribal council of all-time. I would've fallen off my stool if I were in their shoes. Jeff's expression to the delusion was priceless.
This is one of the best seasons of Survivor ever.
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That tribal council was a classic "What the..?!" moment. I felt like I missed an entire episode all together. It makes you really want to watch the rerun just to confirm "did it really happen?"
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i think she actually said "we love you"... not "i love you". :-[
billy is totally cuckoo... poor guy. (must be from all that headbangin'. ha ha ha!) :P
3. If you're gonna try to throw a challenge, you shouldn't be that obvious about it.
i know... i mean at least look like you're trying. break a sweat or something... anything...
ozzy is an a$$... and j.p. is a bigger a$$ for blowin up like that when it was obviously ozzy who should be getting a rise.
hankey's right... for all the brouhaha caused by the whole "race" thing... this is actually the most entertaining survivor to come in quite a while. heck! even richard hatch must be watching from his jail cell. LOL.
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iheck! even richard hatch must be watching from his jail cell. LOL.
That is, if he's not playing prison wife to a guy named Bubba.
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Being a fat musician does not bode well for this edition. ;D
Although I thought throwing the challenge was a bad idea, we would have missed a classic tribal council. Lots of funny lines especially from the Aitu tribe. "You guys got crabs?"
I did not like her last week but Flicka earned my respect back. Adam must go if they lose.
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yey!!! asians rule!!! good thing they are getting along quite well so far in the game!! :)
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Ozzy should realize he made a huge mistake with throwing a challenge. That strategy never worked and is quite cocky for a game like Survivor.
So glad Becky was safe! I hope Yul knows what he's doing telling her he found the idol. Even if they have an alliance, it's not prudent to show all your cards this early.
It looks like the tribes come across as brains vs. brawn. The latter being Brad's tribe. As long as all the Asians are safe until the final four, I didn't mind that the ethnic segregation only lasted for two episodes. The experiment was better TV than last season's.
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Can someone text me what happened in today's episode? I live in Mother Ignacia where almost ALL electrical posts were damaged during yesterday's storm. We still have no power, phone line or internet for two days now.
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Can someone text me what happened in today's episode? I live in Mother Ignacia where almost ALL electrical posts were damaged during yesterday's storm. We still have no power, phone line or internet for two days now.
I'd have texted you, but I don't have your number. ;D
Anyway, in case you want to catch what you missed, Studio 23 is airing both last week's and this week's episodes of Survivor: Cook Islands tomorrow, Saturday, October 7, primetime (7:30PM onwards, I think). They botched the live broadcasts this week, for both this show and TAR, joining both programs about 20 minutes into the broadcast already.
As for today's evictee, I think it's a decision that will come back to bite the tribe in the ass over the next few weeks. ::)
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Also thought it was too early to vote the men off at Raro. If the women really wanted to maintain their numbers, they should have voted off Adam instead. He seemed more useless than JP although Adam was less of a threat strategically.
Given his previous demeanor during tribal council, I was surprised that JP gave a gracious exit. Now that the Latinos are paying for the thrown challenge, Billy must be ecstatic at seclusion island.
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Thanks to Reuven for the update while we we had no power. :) Hankey, I'll send you my number, hehe. I totally forgot about that haha!
I'm now about three episodes late because of all the problems post-Milenyo. I hope to watch the episodes I've missed soon through torrents.
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The final tribal council vote really irritated me. Quite sad, especially when you see how tight a bond the Koreans have formed on the opposite tribe. It would be one thing if Jenny has been shown to be annoying or weak or a liability in challenges. But to have the only other Pinoy turn on her for no clear reason just bothered me.
I will say this: Brad is probably the only one in the entire game who isn't using the race card as part of his strategy. So he's probably more enlightened than everyone else. Or more naive. ::)
Cao Boi's theory about the White Tribe's alliance regrouping and eliminating everyone else after the merge is just so obvious. Whichever team goes to Tribal Council next week, they need to vote off one of the whites. Either they do that, or they deserve to be voted off.
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Are you sure, chief, that Jonathan will stick with his former tribe (the Whites)? Let's wait and see...'coz, if, he sticks with the other 4, then, he is naive, too... ;) Me think the Raro tribe will be picked/voted-off one by one...
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Will the whites actually regroup? Wasn't Flicka already turning her back on Jonathan on the last tribal council? I think, for the foreseeable future, Jonathan would have to make do with his alliance with Yul et al, and they'd be the ones to do the picking off on the Raro tribe.
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There are reports that...
TV Guide Magazine confirmed that another double boot episode will be on November 16, and the merge episode will be on November 23.
10/26: Recap
11/2: 8th boot
11/9: 9th boot
11/16: 10th & 11th boots
11/23: Merge, 12th boot/1st juror
11/30: 13th boot/2nd juror
12/7: 14th boot/3rd juror
12/14: 15th boot/4th juror
12/17: Final 5
This looks interesting...a Final 5 finale...
I think Brad and Flicka are toast...Brad (hmmm...I smell a rat/snake...) for being the only one who voted for Jenny...Flicka? Between her and Ozzy, I think Flicka will be voted-off first...since, Ozzy is being edited as the provider of Aitu...Aitu will keep Ozzy for a while, unless, Candice loses the trust of her Aitu tribesmate...That all depends on whether or not her fellow Aitu tribesmate caught what she was doing, those sign/body languages with Adumb, during the Raro TC...
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Are you sure, chief, that Jonathan will stick with his former tribe (the Whites)?
Uh-huh. ;D
I felt bad for him in a way - he was really trapped into that decision by Candice. But you did hear them plotting to regroup with the whites before that.
It was a fun episode. Sweet revenge for the abandoned members of the Aitu tribe. It's just so much fun to see the underdogs win challenges.
As far as tribal council went, I'm not sure who was more stupid - Brad for saying he didn't trust his tribe, or everyone else, for still not breaking up the obviously strong white alliance.
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Well, whatever the outcome is, I just hope the "Aitu 4" can make it all the way, sorry, Jenny fans, I'm cheering for the underdogs...
I think Yul/Ozzy/Becky/Sundra will make it to the merge, Yul will make use of his HI and allow his own tribemates to win/hold on to the II...It's interesting to watch how the 4 will ever survive this one...
based on the TV guide PR -- 2 will be booted out next, I hope that the Raro tribe will be one by one by one less...
hmmm, correct me if I am wrong, if ever the "Aitu 4" goes on to become the Final 4...they are the first group of 4 who didn't backstab anyone, since, they're the one backstabbed by Candice and Jonathan, plus, they really don't have any alliance or allegiance with the other 5 (Adumb, Jenny, Nathan, Parvati and Rebecca)...
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hmmm, correct me if I am wrong, if ever the "Aitu 4" goes on to become the Final 4...they are the first group of 4 who didn't backstab anyone...
Okay, since you asked for it ;D: That's wrong, since Yul clearly backstabbed Cao Boi (and Flicka) and pretended to go along with his plan to flush out the hidden immunity idol, while Ozzy was the very first backstabber of the season - he engineered and threw a challenge in the most obvious way, to get rid of Billy (although when you think about it, Billy really deserved to be voted off that way).
What happened to Brad this week? On hindsight, I think it may have been a warranted decision, since the guy clearly had no loyalties. He's too unpredictable if you're playing the game. He was very close to JP, but blindsided him; then the week his tribe decided to vote off Christina (the Puerto Rican cop), he went against the tribe's decision and voted for Jenny - his original tribemate and co-Pinoy!
But I'm also rooting for the Aitu 4 right now. Hopefully Jenny & Nate realize the white alliance by the time of the merge, and shake things up a bit.
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I guess you're right about that, but, CB and Flicka and Billy are not in the jury, right? What I meant was those who will form part of the jury...the "Aitu 4" won't be backstabbing anyone, starting from yesterday's episode 'til the finale, right? ;)
Hmmm...Nate realizing the white alliance? From the look of yesterday's episode, I don't think so, even he wanted Brad voted-off...
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Well, whatever the outcome is, I just hope the "Aitu 4" can make it all the way, sorry, Jenny fans, I'm cheering for the underdogs...
I think Yul/Ozzy/Becky/Sundra will make it to the merge, Yul will make use of his HI and allow his own tribemates to win/hold on to the II...It's interesting to watch how the 4 will ever survive this one...
based on the TV guide PR -- 2 will be booted out next, I hope that the Raro tribe will be one by one by one less...
Count me in, im for the underdogs too, it just pissed me off seeing Candice and Jonathan move to the other tribe, hoping for them to be booted out in the next episode!!!
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Candice? You think the whites (most especially Adumb) will allow that to happen? It's going to be among these 3...Jessica, Jenny and/or Jonathan... ;)
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Just read in Reality Blurred that Ozzy was a part of the cast of Playboy's porn style reality series. Hard core porn daw ang dating. I think the pictures are in some discussion board.
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They posted a link to the entire video (http://rapidshare.com/files/3003816/foursome.WMV) at Survivor Sucks (http://p085.ezboard.com/fsurvivorsucksfrm1). Warning - it really borders on hardcore.
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isn't this like a semi-reality show?... i mean, the events are obviously scripted but the ... err, "coupling" is oh-so-real. kind of like a kinkier, no-holds-barred "MTV's real world"?
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i love AITU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Stupid whites. >:(
I wonder if Nate has wisened up to that, or if he's still as clueless as ever. Sad to say - he's actually the swing vote that can change this game at this point.
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Hahaha...that's why they keep on losing...'coz the whites ARE stupid...
Jonathan -- he's playing too hard, too obvious...
Candice and Adumb -- hey, they're just there for each other, lovefest, which makes me puke...I don't mind them making out with each other, but, hey this is survivor, plus, they're not on Aitu's (the underdogs) team...Adumb is no Rob, for him to be able to carry himself and Candice all the way...I would rather watch a lovefest between Brad and JP, OOOPS!!! lol... ;D
Parvati -- hmmm...I just hope she sticks around until the Final 5.... ;D
Nate -- I don't think he'll wisen up...I think he will be clueless until he gets the boot...
Here's a puzzle for PinoyDVD survivor fans...
Since, the composition of the jury started with Brad, one of the twists that shocked everyone...the GREAT DEBATE among the Survivor Fans community is this, the Finale could turn out to be a...
* Final 2 - with a 10-men/women jury...or
* Final 3 - with a 9-men/women jury...
which just might cause a tie...if that's the case, how will the tie be broken?
GO AITUS!!!
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go AITU!!!! i just love them!!! underdogs winning challenges is the best!!! ;D ;D
i love the twist at the end!! ;) i sure hope 1 more RARO tribe gets booted out before the merge para pantay na ang laban!! tapos isa-isa uubusin ng AITU ang RARO!! ;D just vote Parvati out last... hehe
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TSISMIS!!! ;D
There is a RUMOR, that, post-survivor...Nate just didn't get the girl (Parvati)...the one who PROBABLY gets the girl (Parvati) is OZZY!!!
Parvati must be thinking, "Well, Nate can't climb trees and get coconuts like Ozzy does. Nate can't swim like Ozzy does. Nate doesn't provide the foods for his tribesmate like Ozzy does." ;D
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Parvati must be thinking, "Well, Nate can't climb trees and get coconuts like Ozzy does. Nate can't swim like Ozzy does. Nate doesn't provide the foods for his tribesmate like Ozzy does."
Or maybe she just saw Ozzy's "Foursome" episode. ;D
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Heheh...maybe... ;D
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My favorite episode of the season!
From the immunity challenge, Ozzy is definitely part monkey. ;D
I love the exit speech of the loser:
[SPOILER: Highlight to read]Jonathan, kiss my ass. You a dirty, stanky, wack fruitcake who sold me out. You sold out our tribe when we brought you in, you trading bastard. So kiss my ass, Jonathan![/END SPOILER]
Bitter much? ;D
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Possible spoilers:
Great episode! Go underdogs! Was that the first time ever that they didn't show a single vote while they were voting? Or am I just under the wrong impression. Mr. Hankey would you know? :)
Next week: They're not sharing food, hahaha! That's such a slap in the face. ;D But with the 2 providers in the "Aitu" group now, that's just too bad for Raro.
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Was that the first time ever that they didn't show a single vote while they were voting? Or am I just under the wrong impression. Mr. Hankey would you know?
I'm sure they've done that before, but I can't remember exactly when. ;D
But if I remember correctly, on that one, they didn't show the written name, but we heard some of the comments of the voter shot from above, so you couldn't see the name of who they actualy voted for.
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wow!! best episode so far!! ;D go AITU!!! galing mag plano ni Yul!! hehe baliktad na naman ang game!! woohoo!! :D
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the Aitu tribe should vote Jonathan next since they already have the numbers...
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That all depends on how deep is Parvati's cut...
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If Yul decides on Jonathan next, then he'll be going back on his promise to Jonathan when he coerced him to shift sides.
I don't see Yul doing that, at least not until after Adam is out.
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yeah... and Yul will have a better chance of winning if he brings Jonathan to the final 2... pero parang malabo din umabot si Jonathan sa final 2. just my opinion :)
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Remember Mutineers will die, eventhough, the Muntineers didn't die first...I believe that the Aitu 4 will be the Final 4...Yul is just playing around with Jonathan, Yul won't bring Jonathan with him into the Final 2/3, plus, just like I posted before -- there's a debate on whether it's a Final 2 or Final 3 that will face the jury... ;)
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Oh I really doubt if Yul will bring Jonathan to the Final Two, despite that little speech of his. His Becky bond seems a lot tighter, and there's serious doubt if anyone can beat Ozzy in anything, right?
But so as not to be an ass, if you coerce a person to jump ship, you basically guarantee him that he'll last longer than those on the other side who he's abandoning. Unless he wants to gain a few Raro votes, I don't see Yul cutting Jonathan lose just yet. He seems to be more honorable than most other contestants, so I think he'll keep him around for at least another week.
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I think the cut will probably decide Parvati's fate...me believe that Parvati will leave/get voted off based on that cut, alone...buhbye, Parvati... :'(
Then, next week, it's either Jonathan or Adumb...it all depends on who wins II...me believe that Ozzy and/or Yul will wait for the Final 5 before they again tries to win the II...just like what Mr. Hankey said, "There's serious doubt if anyone can beat Ozzy in anything..." ;D
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Yul and Ozzy are saving up energy for future battle ;) ;), and YEPYEP Ozzy is just unbeatable, si Jonathan naman UNBELIEVABLE, UNBEARABLE, UNPREDICTABLE, call him RAT, SNAKE, name it and Jonathan is the man!!!!!! HE just seems to be doing everything in order to survive.
spare PARVATI :-[ :-[ :-[
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GO AITUS!!! Yup, me believe that the Aitu4 will be the F4...there is no way Jonathan or Adumb or Parvati will go to the F4...
OZZY'S CHANCES...
Me thinks Ozzy has a chance here...and, I hope he wins the bragging rights as "The Sole Survivor"...
7th: Parvati -- she will either leave or be voted-off because of that cut.
5th/6th: Adumb -- should be leaving next, UNLESS, he wins the F6 II. F5 II? With Yul and Ozzy both still in the game, there's no way Adumb will win the F5 II.
5th/6th: Jonathan -- see Adumb. He'll leave next, ONLY IF, Adumb wins the F6 II. F5 II? With Ozzy around, Jonathan's chances of staying is totally 'nil'.
4th/3rd/2nd/1st: Ozzy -- if it's an F3, needs to win F4 II. If it's an F2, needs to win both F4/F3 II's. Since, the FINAL immunity challenge is all about "balance and endurance." WOOHOO!!! I expect him to win this final and most important challenge.
4th/3rd/2nd/1st: Sundra -- if Ozzy wins F4 II, needs to survive the F4 TC. Maybe, a tie.
4th/3rd/2nd/1st: Becky -- if Ozzy wins F4 II, needs to survive the F4 TC. Maybe, a tie.
4th/3rd/2nd/1st: Yul -- if it's an F3 and Ozzy wins the F4 II, it's between him and Ozzy. If it's an F2, UNLESS Ozzy survives, he's the winner. There will probably be a backlash against Yul, The Godfather, because of Jonathan.
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The following SPOILER is about the F5 Season Finale immunity challenges, and, could FINALLY confirm the age old question of whether it's going to be an F2 or F3, who'll be facing the jury...
According to reports, the TV Guide has a sneak peek of what will happen in the F5 Season Finale...
F5 immunity challenge -- Burnett: "is the hardest puzzle we've ever done, called Compass Rose."
F4 immunity challenge -- Burnett: "is a trial of balance and endurance."
Sorry, mods...I separated this part, kasi, nakikita pa rin yung spoiler part eh...
OO nga pala, FYI -- the next host of Survivor is Fiji, Yup, the one which is currently under seige...
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Pwede na ba mag-comment about today's episode? ;D
The only thing I will comment for now is that it's the WRONG move, STRATEGICALLY...
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The only way I can see that it could have logically happened is if Adam and Parvati cornered Yul and told him pointblank, "Either Jonathan leaves today, or regardless who you go up against in the final two, you will not get our (including Candice's) votes." Other than that, there was no reason to vote him off this week. Adam is a bigger threat in challenges, and there's no way a little food from the reward challenge swayed Yul's vote. And Jonathan was right - after how he gave their side an advantage and took all the hatred of the other side by flip flopping, they owed him. He deserved to be treated better.
However, I will state that other than Yul, these are the most stupid Survivors ever. I cannot fathom why they have not tried to flush out Yul's hidden immunity idol. Today they were presented with the perfect opportunity to do so. Adam and Parvati should've approached Ozzy and Sundra:
"Yul is controlling the game, and since he has the hidden immunity idol, he's almost guaranteed a slot in the Final Two. You need to level the playing field for your own sakes. We all want Jonathan to go home, and he still will. We cannot tell Becky of our plan since she and Yul are tight. If the four of us vote for Yul, Becky and Yul will vote for Jonathan, and Jonathan will vote for Adam. Yul is forced to use his hidden idol, Jonathan still goes home, and the playing field is leveled. You can vote us off next, but at least Yul will no longer have an unfair advantage over the two of you."
Ozzy and Sundra definitely would've gone for it.
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That's right, Mr. Hankey..."these are the most stupid Survivors ever", especially the possible composition of the jury. Maybe that is, the reason, why Yul is SO concerned about the jury votes. These might be the WORST jury that the series will ever have.
The Aitu4 should not have joined Adumb or Parvati in voting-off Jonathan, not just yet. I think Yul knows that it's not yet the time to vote-off Jonathan. Yul probably joined in, knowing that it's a lost cause, knowing that Adumb, Parvati and the other 3 members of the Aitu4 will vote for Jonathan. Hey, Ozzy/Becky/Sundra should have realized that Jonathan, unless Adumb or Parvati wins the F6 II, will never vote one of them off. Adumb and Parvati will. The reason Ozzy/Becky/Sundra voted Jonathan off, was because of his personality? Hey, at this late stage of the game, voting off someone because of his personality...they are just not thinking. Bad, Bad strategic move.
Nevertheless, I still believe that the Aitu4 will be the F4, BUT, I won't be surprised, if ever, Adumb and/or Parvati survives...hey, the preview has just planted a seed on the possibility of Ozzy jumping ship...
Plus, why is Burnett still showing the Candice-Adumb flirt? I don't think anyone wants to see that...
TORCH SONG
In a farewell letter to a great ''Survivor'' villain, our correspondent expresses his gratitude to Jonathan for saving the season by Dalton Ross, Entertainment Weekly
Dear Jonathan,
I just want to take time out from this busy season of Survivor to say thanks. Thanks for everything. Because honestly, it looked like this season was shaping up to be a real stinkeroo. And then you and Candice stepped off your mat and mutinied, completely turning the game on its head. Then you flipped again, and went back to the Aitu fearsome foursome, becoming, in your own words, the only person to backstab every single person in the game. Many viewers hated you for it, but loved you at the same time for adding some good old-fashioned vim and vigor to the proceedings. You are now gone, voted out by all those people you turned on at one point or another, but you will not be forgotten.
I knew you were something special before the game even started. I recall sitting on the plane to the Cook Islands, and you wanted to talk to me about my Sarah Lawrence College T-shirt. Turns out you went there too, as did some random woman seated across the aisle, as did TV Guide Channel producer Paul Adler, making four SLC grads on the same plane — quite an achievement for a school with an enrollment of under a thousand. An even bigger achievement considering three of the four people were male, the exact opposite of the female-heavy SLC ratio. Whatever. I'm rambling. The point is, you weren't gonna let any stupid gag order silence you.
You started the game by stealing another tribe's chickens, insisted on wearing a very silly hat — even sillier than Probst's Guatemala getup — and took some sort of odd pleasure in hanging fish from your crotch. Look, I know 33 days is a long time and you missed your wife, Stacy, dearly, but that was just plain creepy.
But let's take a look now at your final few days. The first blood spilled in this episode was not yours but rather Parvati's, after the sexy brunette sliced open the nail on her left thumb. That was nasty, and you admirably refrained from puking all over Survivor doctor Ado Cohen as he stitched her up. Good thing you left the fish at home during the reward challenge, because all of a sudden — out popped Stacy! (Don't want her to get jealous or anything.) I suppose it was heartwarming seeing you and the others reunited with your loved ones, but truth be told, I was too busy wondering if Yul had morphed into the Incredible Hulk when I saw him busting out of his ripped green shirt. (Of course, the Hulk only starts busting out of things when he's angry — an emotion I'm not quite sure RoboSurvivor III (Tom Westman and Terry Dietz being the first two incarnations) is even capable of experiencing.) I did like the way your wife and Ozzy's mom, Gina, acted like they were competing in a wet T-shirt contest. Apparently, so did you, which explains why you started sucking face with Stacy before heading to Exile Island. (Great, now the fish are jealous.)
Ultimately this was your undoing — being sent to Exile, not sucking face with your wife, although there does seem to be some sort of kissing curse going on this season. You were isolated, cut off from solidifying your place among the others. First, Parvati and Adam went to work on Sundra during the reward, and then they made their smartest...okay, their only smart move of the game in bringing back food for Ozzy, Yul, and Becky. Ozzy said he ''didn't want to feed people to beat me,'' but he and the others seemed to change their mind about hiding food after being served some chicken, corn, and meatloaf.
You could have saved your hide by winning immunity, but how could you have known it would be one of the most brutal challenges ever? Sure, it seemed easy enough — walk over a few planks and barrels to get some poles, and then grab a few rings — but with all the slipping and sliding, you all looked completely drunk. Punch drunk, perhaps. Poor Sundra was getting hit harder than she did in that catfight she had with Kim Cattrall on Sex and the City back in the day.
After the challenge, Jeff asked if anyone felt in danger of going home. You declined to raise your hand, but the fix seemed in. Back at camp, nobody would even talk or look at you. You were right about Sundra and Becky — they are horrible liars. In perhaps the most unconvincing fib in Survivor history, they told you it was Adam, not you, on the chopping block. You're pretty good at the whole deception thing, so this seemed to hurt you the most. Not being lied to, but being lied to so damn poorly.
Then came tribal council. Jeff asked Ozzy if it was nice not having you around camp, and he shockingly said ''sure.'' (Certainly can't blame him for lying!) At this point, you probably had a good idea it was you, as did we. You also probably realized that even if you stuck around, you didn't stand a chance in hell of winning the million dollars anyway, as did we. I can't say I wanted you to win, as my frightening man crush on Yul has been well documented. But this season would not have been the same without you. You didn't come to make friends (unless, perhaps, they went to Sarah Lawrence), and you didn't come to have an ''experience.'' No, you came to win, and you did whatever you thought was the right move to get yourself that much closer to the end. I can respect that — for a man who hangs fish from his crotch.
Sincerely,
Dalton Ross
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Can we start posting thoughts on the show, knowing that it's going to be an F3? At least in the U.S., everyone already knows that it's going to be an F3, courtesy of TV Guide...they post, they talk, they make interviews, with that (F3 facing the jury) in mind... ;)
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Can we start posting thoughts on the show, knowing that it's going to be an F3?
Of course. There's absolutely nothing wrong with posting your thoughts on who'll make it and what will happen during the Final Tribal Council. However, if you're going to quote alleged spoilers from other boards on who actually wins, then there are always spoiler tags.
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Participate in the Finale!
Help determine who CBS will give a brand new car to.
Vote for the most deserving Survivor here: http://www.cbs.com/mariner
;D
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It's already the finale right? So I'm assuming it's 2-4pm tomorrow with the reunion coming right after? I haven't seen any ads from Studio 23 though. Can anyone confirm?
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Kailan ang replay guys? Missed the season finale & reunion...BROWNOUT KASI!!! >:(
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December 23, Saturday, 6:30PM.
The second tribal council of the night was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen on Survivor.
Even those who watched may need to check out the replay, since some of the more interesting bits of the final tribal council were garbled during the satellite feed.
Very deserving Final Two. NOT Three, but Two. ;D
The only way I can see that it could have logically happened is if Adam and Parvati cornered Yul and told him pointblank, "Either Jonathan leaves today, or regardless who you go up against in the final two, you will not get our (including Candice's) votes."
So... that was roughly what happened after all. And it made a difference!
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Mr. Hankey, Parvati didn't vote for Yul...but, Adam and Candice did... ;)
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Spoiler (?)
So the car curse still works, even if it's totally out of your control--and after the fact. ;D
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Mr. Hankey, Parvati didn't vote for Yul...but, Adam and Candice did... ;)
Hence the term "roughly" in my post. :P
Good winner interview here (http://www.ibabuzz.com/unscripted/2006/12/18/yul-kwons-survivor-strategy).
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do the other players (aside from the sole survivor) get any prize money for joining Survivor? 2nd place? 3rd place?
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i read somewhere that the 2nd place gets 100,000. dont know how much for 3rd place. One thing is sure, Survivor gives a bigger prize money than amazing race - then again, the prize money in AR gets split between 2 people pa. For AR 2nd team gets around 25,000 (before taxes).
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In Survivor, the prize breakdown is:
Winner: 1,000,000
2nd Place: 100,000
3rd Place: 85,000
4th Place: 75,000
It goes all the way down to the first person voted off, who gets 2,500.
The money prize was different for Survivor All-Stars. The first person voted off (Tina) got 25,000. Fourth Place received 100,000; 3rd: 125,000; 2nd: 250,000.
Yeah, The Amazing Race prize money is significantly smaller. Here's the alleged breakdown:
1st: 1,000,000
2nd: 25,000
3rd: 10,000
4th: 7,000
5th: 6,000
6th: 5,000
7th: 4,000
8th: 3,500
9th: 3,000
10th: 2,500
11th: 1,500
I heard there's allegedly no prize money for any other place finishers in TAR Asia? >:(
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I like the winner this season. For me, his the best survivor so far.
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thank you for the info guys :)
IMO, Survivor is a much harder game to play than TAR :) mas sulit yung mas malaking prize money!! ;D
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so... during the reunion, JP mentions that he's appearing in the oxygen network's reality show "the janice dickinson modeling agency".
after 4 episodes of the new show ... JP is put on the spot where a magazine called "instinct" is offering to hire him for their february cover. the only catch is they feature openly gay men in their cover. so as this week's episode comes to a close, ms. dickinson herself is placed in a position where she has to ask JP if he's gay (and eventually land a major modeling job) or not. as she's waiting for a response to the question about his sexuality ... the show ends with a visibly upset JP. (darn cliffhangers...)
but i guess a quick trip to google answers that question... LOL... check it out:
(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/277/instincttb7.jpg)
i guess those rumors about him dating brad after the show are true...? ???
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/630/jp21nt1.jpg)