Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 25, 2001 at 03:36 AM
Post by: blitzkrieg on Dec 25, 2001 at 04:37 AM
And if you could go a little further with your budget, why not get the 1802. It's a lot better in my opinion (obvious ba?)
Good luck! ;D
Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 25, 2001 at 07:20 AM
Post by: Alfie on Dec 25, 2001 at 08:59 AM
It goes for only Php 19,000.00.
Post by: gaol on Dec 25, 2001 at 02:49 PM
You can try Image as Blitzkrieg suggested. Other stores where I've sighted a Denon are: AV Driver (Shangri-La); Bose (Megamall and other branches); and DCM Audio (where I bought my Denon AVR-1801).
GAOL
Post by: weeloo on Dec 25, 2001 at 04:18 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 26, 2001 at 01:36 AM
Post by: electronics-depot on Dec 26, 2001 at 02:19 AM
Post by: electronics-depot on Dec 26, 2001 at 02:23 AM
Pls. come to our store and look for Koowie.
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 26, 2001 at 06:38 AM
Post by: backmarker on Jan 24, 2002 at 12:28 AM
Post by: bently on Jan 24, 2002 at 08:33 AM
Quote
diba dapat nasa audio category itong topic na ito? ???
thanks for the heads up MyNameIsWalts :)
moving thread to audio!
bently
Post by: IS2000 on Jan 24, 2002 at 01:30 PM
Sabay na tayo kung bibili ka na! I'm interested in the 1802, we might be able to get a good deal if we purchase together!
Post by: ryn0128 on Jan 24, 2002 at 08:56 PM
Post by: ridleyscotch on Jan 30, 2002 at 12:08 AM
Post by: MeowPao on Jan 30, 2002 at 04:33 AM
Its around P28K... but you can haggle for a big discount. ;)
Post by: pioneer on Jan 31, 2002 at 05:32 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Feb 01, 2002 at 07:53 AM
magkano kuha mo sa 1802? card o cash?
Post by: pioneer on Feb 01, 2002 at 10:27 PM
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pioneer,
magkano kuha mo sa 1802? card o cash?
Mga 25-26T plus. Cash. ;D
Post by: vacuumtubes on Feb 04, 2002 at 09:52 PM
SOUND AND CINEMA (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=hometheater&action=display&num=1007970521)
Post by: ryn0128 on Feb 04, 2002 at 11:01 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Jun 02, 2002 at 09:17 AM
Avr-1803, 7-Kanal-A/V-Receiver with Dolby digital, Dts it and pro Logic ii-decoder,
Fulldiscrete 7-Kanal-Endstufe with identical power output and circuit interpretation,
7 x 150 Watts (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0,7 % rattle/clink),
Special output stage transistor with internal operating point stabilization,
DTS Extended Surround (IT) Discrete 6,1 & Dts it matrix 6.1-Decodierung,
Dolby digital decoder with 6.1-Surround-Modus for 100 % compatibility with TRACKS of sound of film and
Music in Dolby digitally Surround ex, also existing 5.1-Software can be shown in the ex mode,
Dolby pro Logic ii-decoder (modes: PLII Cinema, PLII Music with options, pro Logic),
Dolby pro Logic ii-decoding on digital level,
DTS-Neo:6 Cinema & DTS-Neo:6 Music Stereo to Surround decoding,
Dd sports club digital circuit, similar to DEVICES SHARC 32-Bit-Fliesskomma-DSP,
24-Bit/96 kHz A/D transducers, similar to DEVICES Ad-1854 24-Bit/96-kHz-D/A-Wandler for all channels,
Digitally interface receiver for signals to 24 bits and 96 kHz, wide-band circuit interpretation for those
next generation of highly soluble clay/tone formats, Direct mode for best quality of similar sources (evasion of the digital section),
Cinema Equalizer, music Surround programs inclusive 5-/7-Kanal-Stereo, tone control, video SELECT function,
Photograph selector switch, user friendly screen menu, personnel MEMORY plus,
Supports an additional hearing zone with a Stereo Vorverstaerkerausgang, flexible configuration of the inserted achievement amplifiers
the Surround bake channels (Surround bake or multi-zone), UKW Stereo /MW uKW-Stereo-/MW-Tuner also
40 station memory and RDS with radio text, 2 color component entrances and 1 exit, compatibly with wide-band
Signals of progressive Scan DVD and HDTV, 5 s-video and FBAS (Composite) entrances, 3 s-video and FBAS
(Composite) exits, of it 1 monitor exit, wide-band one 7.1-Kanaleingang (100 kHz) for future multi-channel formats such as DVD audio, preamplifier exits for 7.1 channels, adjustable Subwoofer Uebernahmefrequenz (80, 100 and 120 Hz), 4 freely zuordenbare digital entrances (1 coaxially, 3 optically) and 1 optical digital exit, 8 pair similar entrances (inclusive PHONO (mm)) and 3 pair of exits, two pairs of connections for Surround loudspeaker, sturdy loudspeaker c-clamps for all connections, headphone exit,
A switched mains connection socket,
Pre-programmed and adaptive multi-function remote maintenance with LCD display and background lighting,
Dimensions in mm (B x H x T) of 434 x 171 x 416,
In gold and black available
Post by: ryn0128 on Jun 02, 2002 at 12:06 PM
eto ang ka-match ng mga yamaha na bagong labas!
Post by: [joms] on Jun 21, 2002 at 12:55 AM
Post by: luther on Jul 10, 2002 at 01:56 PM
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Jul 10, 2002 at 11:08 PM
Good luck.
Post by: Huddaf on Jul 31, 2002 at 06:19 AM
Guys, any info kung sino ang magiging local distributor nito ???
Post by: Furry on Jul 31, 2002 at 07:30 PM
Post by: EB on Jul 31, 2002 at 11:25 PM
Post by: levi on Aug 19, 2002 at 10:11 PM
???
Hi all!
I'm not technically minded so the specs on these two model dont mean sh*t to me! =( I am having a hard time deciding which of these 2 revievers to buy. I know the AVR1803 is not released yet, so should I wait for the AVR1803 or just buy the AVR2802? How much different are the two models?
Please help!
Will
Post by: ferdie on Aug 22, 2002 at 07:44 PM
meron ba kayong feedback tungkol sa Denon AVC-A11SR
and AVC-A1SR?ano bang caliber ng mga models na ito sa palagay nyo?anybody who can help me to scrutinize the outstanding features of these units? :)
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 30, 2002 at 06:14 PM
1803 2802
80x6 90x6
added w/dolby digital ex no dd-ex
w/ front panel input no front-panel input
new remote design big old remote
around Aus$1200 Aus$1800
mas mura mas mahal, bakit ?
made in china/malaysia made in japan kasi
build quality is superb
for more info visit www.denon.com
'hope this helps a little.
yrneh
Reposting for THX
???
Hi all!
I'm not technically minded so the specs on these two model dont mean sh*t to me! =( I am having a hard time deciding which of these 2 revievers to buy. I know the AVR1803 is not released yet, so should I wait for the AVR1803 or just buy the AVR2802? How much different are the two models?
Please help!
Will
Post by: notaku on Aug 31, 2002 at 02:42 PM
http://www.dba-pr.com/clients/denon/releases/avr5803.htm (http://www.dba-pr.com/clients/denon/releases/avr5803.htm)
DENON DIGITAL LINK: one-cable source connection for multichannel sound
Post by: greatbop on Sep 01, 2002 at 03:23 AM
1803 does not pump up enough watt for me. The lowest model i'd go is the 3800 series which is 110 watts.
Post by: bunkieboy on Sep 17, 2002 at 09:53 PM
Post by: mdman on Sep 20, 2002 at 01:10 PM
Post by: jay_cee_em on Sep 30, 2002 at 01:30 PM
I think this new model, part of Denon's '03' AVR line, was just released recently along with the new AVR1603. And its a 6.1 receiver already ;)
Here's some detailed specs on the new AVR1803:
http://www.customaudioandvideo.com/hmtheater/denon1803.html (http://www.customaudioandvideo.com/hmtheater/denon1803.html)
I think stocks are just limited ...you may call Mr Sonny Tuazon of the Home Theater for other details/pricing ;)
Ciao ;)
Post by: greatbop on Oct 01, 2002 at 01:45 AM
and they're not 'limited quantities."
Post by: greatbop on Oct 01, 2002 at 01:55 AM
what's the ph number if ever...
Post by: greatbop on Oct 01, 2002 at 02:21 AM
Post by: jay_cee_em on Oct 01, 2002 at 11:16 AM
Sorry, I think my previous post was not clear enough - The Home Theater is a local shop (Its owned by another PinoyDVD member - stuazon (Mr. Sonny Tuazon)) ;)
You may call the shop (8125235) or text Sonny himself 0917 2516546.
Ciao !
Post by: greatbop on Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32 PM
as i've posted before. my dad's upgrading his hometheater sa manila.. kaya i'm just asking these qs.
freaking energy and paradigms are so damned overpriced sa manila. Paano kasi.. kokonting store lang ang nagbebenta..
Post by: jay_cee_em on Oct 02, 2002 at 03:17 PM
I think they carry various ranges of Mission and B&W speakers, plus some other brands, I think JMLabs.
Try to ring the Home Theater and check out whats in store.
Happy hunting!
Post by: greatbop on Oct 02, 2002 at 04:35 PM
tinawagan ako ngayon 1.30 am... sabi sa akin.. they do have one. it's 29t (which is just about right for the msrp of 500 usd). tapos ofcourse pwede pang tawaran..
Post by: greatbop on Oct 02, 2002 at 05:12 PM
it's past 2 am right now... nde ko naman gustong maloko papa ko though..
Post by: jay_cee_em on Oct 02, 2002 at 05:13 PM
I have not met anyone yet who owns the 1803 here...your Dad could be the first :)
I used to own a 1602 and have been quite satisfied with it :)
Good Luck ;)
Post by: greatbop on Oct 02, 2002 at 06:07 PM
anyway,.. here's what they carry..
Speakers:
BM
Mission
JMLabs
Mirage <~~ W00t canadian brand!
Subs:
BW
Mission
Velodyne
i still can't sleep e.. 3am na.. ganun kasi ako eh. nde na ako nakakatulog after ginising ako..
texted my dad na kung anong tatanong nyan center channels and subs..
i just told him to ask M5cs and center channel nung satellite system ng Mirage (AVS 100) i hink. Velodyne CHT 8/ 10/ 12s,,,
honestly. i haven't heard these speakers before.. I've heard athenas and energy - pero not their brother - mirage. Missions.. shortly listened too them.. and velodyne.. all i know about those... good worth of mouth lang.
ah hell... temporary lang naman to eh...
Post by: bunkieboy on Oct 04, 2002 at 11:07 AM
found the following details for the new 3803.
was drooling after i saw this :o
AVR-3803
Amplifier specs remain unchanged
A/V inputs inreased from 5 to 7
Componenet Video switcher bandwidth now 100Mhz
(and the component inputs(2) are assignable)
Video Conversion from 5803
Digital inputs/outputs increased
(5 optical, 2 coax)
(2 optical outputs)
Crossover Points added - 40 and 60 Hz
All new DDSC-D featuring Analog Devices' Melody 100 DSP
(new name for the HammerHead Sharc - used in 5803)
(Dolby Digital EX Pro Logic II, dts ES)
(dts 96/24)
Burr-Brown PCM-1791 24/192 DAC's
(2 per channel, in differential configuration)
(Also, Burr-Brown PCM-1804 24/192 A/D Converter)
AL24 Processing
Pure Direct Mode
Multi-Source/Zone section improved
(now fully discrete power on/off)
(variable/Fixed audio pre-out with Composite Video)
(Remote I/O ports)
(12 V trigger)
(amp Assign)
Available October '02 SRP - $1200
(http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photos/3803%20Front.jpg)
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photo.asp?s=home&p=AVR%2D3803&f=3803+Front%2Ejpg&c=2
(http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photos/3803%20Rear.jpg)
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photo.asp?s=home&p=AVR%2D3803&f=3803+Rear%2Ejpg&c=2
Post by: greatbop on Oct 05, 2002 at 01:11 AM
i think yun ang primary reason why they're able to stuff so much new stuff for so little eh...
Post by: greatbop on Oct 06, 2002 at 01:22 PM
1603's made in China
5803 is still made in Japan.. but only lotto winners will even consider the product... LoL
anyway... here's what's my dad is gonna end up buying from The Home Theater...
Mission m7c2 for center channels == 9,300
Denon 1803 == 27,500
speaker stand == 2k..
Energy kasi costs twice as much sa manila compared here in Canada eh. And missions acctually costs a tad less dyan kaysa sa canada.
Which i think explains why missions sell alot in there.
Total is around 40K...
Tapos magpapadala nalang ako ng either 10" ng Energy or Paradigm (s10.2 or PDR 10) approx 17k php each. Tapos padalhan ko narin ng a few dvds.. Maybe beauty and the beast and LoTR (2.35:1)... lol
Pan and Scan is teh devil!
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 06, 2002 at 02:07 PM
I totally agree with you about the 5803. ;D Besides, why would anyone with 4K dollars to spend get a receiver instead of separates? ::)
And yes, Pan & Scam is the devil!
Post by: greatbop on Oct 06, 2002 at 02:19 PM
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 06, 2002 at 04:43 PM
Post by: greatbop on Oct 07, 2002 at 12:23 AM
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 07, 2002 at 01:40 AM
There are many good manufacturers too. You can start from Rotel (RSP-1066, for example) and work your way up to the Lexicon MC-12 which, IMHO, is one of the best money can buy.
Post by: greatbop on Oct 07, 2002 at 01:42 AM
Post by: Aylwin on Oct 07, 2002 at 01:47 AM
Speaking of which, do you know how to post a link to another thread?
By the way, I find it fun to read and try to know more about the higher end stuff even if I have no intention to buy them. I mean, you never know... one day I could win the lottery or something... ;)
Post by: jojitb on Oct 11, 2002 at 10:56 AM
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Oct 11, 2002 at 12:35 PM
Post by: greatbop on Oct 11, 2002 at 03:23 PM
Post by: jojitb on Oct 11, 2002 at 03:37 PM
Post by: greatbop on Oct 11, 2002 at 03:53 PM
Post by: jojitb on Oct 11, 2002 at 04:02 PM
Post by: DViant on Jan 01, 2003 at 03:39 AM
another cool feature that 1803 has is a firewire input.. it'll be used in the future for DVD-As and SACDs... it's able to carry more bandwidth than an optical cable.Just wish to clarify if the Denon AVR-1803 does include Firewire/iLink/IEEE1394a port.
The product spec sheet doesnt indicate this.
What brand and model of speakers would be a good match for the AVR-1803? B&W, JBL, Klipsch, Infinity, Velodyne or Wharfedale?
Post by: v0elker on Jan 02, 2003 at 05:22 PM
it would have been really useful if they made it a standard firewire port. specially now that firewire is gaining in popularity. i believe its even being used in some hdtv sets. but then again at this price range, i think ur better off getting separates from rotel like the one aylwin mentioned. most locals here refer to the rotel separates as the best entry-level separates and most consider them as the poor man's krell, etc.
another cool feature that 1803 has is a firewire input.. it'll be used in the future for DVD-As and SACDs... it's able to carry more bandwidth than an optical cable.Just wish to clarify if the Denon AVR-1803 does include Firewire/iLink/IEEE1394a port.
The product spec sheet doesnt indicate this.
What brand and model of speakers would be a good match for the AVR-1803? B&W, JBL, Klipsch, Infinity, Velodyne or Wharfedale?
Post by: zaldi on Jan 10, 2003 at 04:53 PM
what i bought last christmas for myself is the denon avr1403 which costs only PHP20,500.00 but 15% discount was given to me. :D :D :D so i spend PHP17,425.00 only from my angpao. hehe!! it's good naman for those who are a bit budget conscious like me. after all, enough na siya for my bedroom and speakers.
Post by: zaldi on Jan 10, 2003 at 05:25 PM
1. the soundroom in the podium (5th level)
2. digital dreams in SM north edsa cyberzone (ground level)
3. spectra audio video in park square 1
4. automtic center in glorietta 4 (3rd floor)
5. sights and sounds in park square 1 and shangri la plaza
6. audio visual driver in shangri la plaza
and a lot more.
for updated complete directory, check its ad in FHM december issue. i think the telephone numbers are also listed. the denon ad comes with the jbl ad, too.
Post by: mk on Jan 13, 2003 at 01:22 PM
Post by: Atticus on Jan 13, 2003 at 03:40 PM
Happy hunting! :D
Post by: levi on Jan 13, 2003 at 10:20 PM
The Hometheater or Architectural Audio. Check out zgeneral topics
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 16, 2003 at 01:31 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=2e37d1f0a88a5803cd073940188a9f9a&threadid=213565
Slated for March or May.. $800 MSRP
hehehehehe
Ibig sabihin e bababa ang presyo ng 2802...
Post by: greatbop on Jan 16, 2003 at 03:01 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Jan 29, 2003 at 02:18 PM
magkano na ngayon ang 2802 at 2803?
Post by: Dracula on Jan 29, 2003 at 08:28 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2003 at 03:09 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 08:55 AM
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:01 AM
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
Bro,
mukhang same tayo ng pinupuntirya
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:13 AM
Yup..baka kasi mas mura sa rxv1200 eh..pag mas mahal pa sya sa rxv1200 ill go with the yammy else denon..habol ko kasi eh discrete 6.1 and higher wattage eh.. ehehehe ;D
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:38 AM
dex,
Yup..baka kasi mas mura sa rxv1200 eh..pag mas mahal pa sya sa rxv1200 ill go with the yammy else denon..habol ko kasi eh discrete 6.1 and higher wattage eh.. ehehehe ;D
Bro mas mahal ata yung yammy 1200..ang lowest na narinig ko sa 1803 25,500 ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:45 AM
25 na lang yung 1803? hmmmm....ilang watts/ch nga yan?
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:48 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 09:50 AM
Nagdownload din ako nung PDF bro ehehehe..talagang tulo din laway ko.....i was thinking of selling some of my dvd's para lang makapag upgrade...bili na lang ulit nang DVD's pag nag ka sale. what di u think? ehehehe ;D
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:03 AM
Ako whole system ang balak ko...baka sa nov kung maka pag decide yung officemate ko na kunin as a whole yung yammy package ko he!!he!! plus 13th month pwede na yun.Tapos benta lang muna ni killer yung 303 nya ng mura ok sa olrayt he!!he!! Ganda ng plano ko sana magkatotoo ;D ;D
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:08 AM
ako din eh..i was planning to sell my yammy and some of my dvd's para pang add sa upgrade..di ko lang alam kung bagay ang wharf sa denon..kung oks naman ill keep the wharfs para di masyado magastos...wala naman ako problema sa sub kasi maganda na yung jbl ko eh..hopely by the end of this year eh ma upgrade ko avr ko ehehehehe ;D. My greatest problem na lang eh yung pirma ni esmi dun sa approbal letter ko sa kanya ehehehehehe ;D
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:09 AM
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:13 AM
less than 24 k ang bili mo sa denon mo? now look what u did to me...di na naman ako mapapakali nyan ehehehehehe
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:16 AM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Saan mo nabili yung 1803 mo bro? o padala galing US?
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:22 AM
sa sights and sounds....grabe..isip na naman ako nang isip nyan..
;D
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:25 AM
benta na natin equipment natin tapos sabay tayo bumili baka mas malaki ang discount ehehehe
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:35 AM
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QuoteBought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k...
Sights and sounds where? shagrila?
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
What do you mean in here?
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:35 AM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
(http://www.800stereo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/avr1803.jpg)
Yup, saw this one too and pinag-iipunan ko na para makabili din. Good thing DD-EX and DTS -ES na. ;)
Post mo naman yung feedback mo dito. Thanks ;)
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:36 AM
dex,
benta na natin equipment natin tapos sabay tayo bumili baka mas malaki ang discount ehehehe
Pre patience is the key to our upgrade he!!he!!
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:38 AM
ehehehe grabe....iniisip ko kasi sabi ni wesley snipes " Patience is no longer my virtue" ehehehe ;D
Post by: Atticus on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:46 AM
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:49 AM
uy sillyputty nakabili ka na pala ng 1803. sarap gamitin no? ako parang ayaw ko na munang pumasok sa office. hehehe :D
Stop it guys..ur making me upgrade crazy here ;D ;D ;D
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 30, 2003 at 10:59 AM
sa remote... naiinis lang ako kasi switch yung pang change ng functions(tv,receiver,dvd player etc)...
pero sa tunog.... pwedeng-pwede! ;)
sa shang ako bumili... pwede ding magpademo with wharfs and missions....
nagtanong din ako sa park square kaso out of stock...
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:25 AM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D(http://www.800stereo.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/avr1803.jpg)
Yup, saw this one too and pinag-iipunan ko na para makabili din. Good thing DD-EX and DTS -ES na. ;)
Post mo naman yung feedback mo dito. Thanks ;)
What a beauty...tulo na laway ko dito sa opis ehehehehe
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:53 AM
For sure pag lumabas yun later this year e magmumura yung 2802....
choices choices....
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 12:52 PM
bro paki pm naman exact price nang score mo sa 1803. Thanks bro ;D
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 30, 2003 at 01:04 PM
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 01:10 PM
thanks bro ;D ;D mag iisip muna ako ehehehehe
Post by: dexterc on Jan 30, 2003 at 01:28 PM
silly,
thanks bro ;D ;D mag iisip muna ako ehehehehe
hwag na mag isip he!!he!! bro sent you pm
Post by: Courage on Jan 30, 2003 at 01:48 PM
eheheheh sent u a pm....kelangan eh masuring pag iisip...baka mamaya lang nang konti nasa Market place na rin ang AVR ko ehehehe ;D
Post by: levi on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:29 PM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Sillyputty,
Im planning to get the 1803 also. Are you sure there is no multizone and surround back pre-out? Im after those features, if that the case, then I have to check out other brands. Anyone with an 1803, please confirm.
Levi
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:46 PM
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
P23k. Ayos na ayos! ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:52 PM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Sillyputty,
Im planning to get the 1803 also. Are you sure there is no multizone and surround back pre-out? Im after those features, if that the case, then I have to check out other brands. Anyone with an 1803, please confirm.
Levi
[/quote
levi- sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't have any multizone and surround back pre-out. :-\
Post by: bunkieboy on Jan 30, 2003 at 11:56 PM
Mel,
Magkano score mo sa denon 1803?
P23k. Ayos na ayos! ;D
you got it at a good price my man ;D
Post by: levi on Jan 31, 2003 at 12:50 AM
Bought an 1803 from Sights and Sounds for less than 24k... ;D
Ok naman, considering na 1 pair of wharf 8.1s pa lang ang speakers ko.... nagiipon pa para mabuo ang setup...
One thing to consider... yung binebenta dito e walang multizone and surround back pre-out... compared to the US models na meron.
Sillyputty,
Im planning to get the 1803 also. Are you sure there is no multizone and surround back pre-out? Im after those features, if that the case, then I have to check out other brands. Anyone with an 1803, please confirm.
Levi
[/quote
levi- sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't have any multizone and surround back pre-out. :-\
Thanks Nirv, I guess Im forced to wait and spend more for the Harman 5500. I was so excited pa naman for the 1803. Im planning to get it pa naman next week.
Post by: Courage on Jan 31, 2003 at 07:59 AM
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 31, 2003 at 11:18 AM
watch a 5.1 source in your main room and then a cd source on the other room(mono only)... mas ok sana kung stereo...
Post by: sillyputty on Jan 31, 2003 at 11:27 AM
pm mo naman ako kung magkano quote sayo for the HK....
tnx.
Post by: Courage on Jan 31, 2003 at 11:33 AM
simple multizone expeerience...
watch a 5.1 source in your main room and then a cd source on the other room(mono only)... mas ok sana kung stereo...
Ahhh ok..thanks bro ;D
Post by: Philander on Jan 31, 2003 at 01:32 PM
LEVI-
pm mo naman ako kung magkano quote sayo for the HK....
tnx.
Try to call SPECTRA @ ParkSquare 1
815-5493
You may even ask for 15% discount.
Post by: levi on Jan 31, 2003 at 10:51 PM
I went to Podium to check out the 1803 again and it has no multizone unlike the US model. I was disappointed but I think the Denon is still a better option for me dahil No stock and HK 5500 and NAD 752. At least 6.1/7.1 na agad ang Denon. With the HK, I need to spend again for the power amp for the rear surround.
Post by: YrNeH on Feb 01, 2003 at 10:20 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Feb 02, 2003 at 05:30 PM
magkano ba ang denon avr-2802 sa pilipinas? i just wanted to know if i got ripped off. here in melbourne most hi-end HT shops sells it around $1800-2000. pero nakabarat ako kaya nakuha ko ng $1400 = 42K @ $1=P30
38t dito sa manila
Post by: levi on Feb 02, 2003 at 08:17 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2003 at 10:06 AM
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Just went there yesterday..and its being sold for 40k. kelan nag sale?
Post by: dexterc on Feb 03, 2003 at 10:11 AM
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Just went there yesterday..and its being sold for 40k. kelan nag sale?
Bro,
tempting ba?..hows your new wharf?
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2003 at 10:23 AM
Post by: Courage on Feb 03, 2003 at 10:25 AM
Post by: levi on Feb 03, 2003 at 11:03 PM
Electronics depot had a sale for 2802 for 29T. One of our member was able to get a unit.
Just went there yesterday..and its being sold for 40k. kelan nag sale?
Medyo matagal na. You can send Thames a PM for more details
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 08:40 AM
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 04, 2003 at 10:01 AM
hyperaudio is selling a 2mo used unit for 21k....
sayang, nakabili nko...nkasave sana ako ng mga 2-3k.
Post by: Courage on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:04 AM
for those looking for an 1803...
hyperaudio is selling a 2mo used unit for 21k....
sayang, nakabili nko...nkasave sana ako ng mga 2-3k.
If i only have the money :(
Post by: levi on Feb 05, 2003 at 03:10 AM
Post by: stac on Feb 05, 2003 at 03:49 AM
I got my brand new 1803 from Hyper this afternoon. I was able to hook it up but Im too sleepy to try it. I will give my comments tom.
congrats on your 1803!! :) :D ;D 8) :o
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 08:29 AM
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 08:42 AM
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:09 AM
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
Dex,
ganun na nga yun eh..eto sakit ko eh..pag may nagustuhan ako eh hindi ako mapakali..pati sa bahay esep nang esep..pero kung maganda ang review ni levi sa 1803... tataas nang ilang points ang denon kesa yammy..imagine 10k ang diperensya.. 1 pair na rin ata nang mission speakers yun or konti na lang eh tatlong 8.1 na yun pag naka dts-es na ehehehe
Post by: toyks on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:48 AM
maybe im in the right place... meron ba kayong idea about the denon avc-3570? anyone auditioned this before? kasi im more into yamaha receivers, so zero-idea ako when it comes to denon. can u give me some important differences/advantages of denon compared to yamaha. thanks alot!
also, is this 3570 a new model or an old one? thanks again! :)
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:58 AM
sige na benta mo na yung avr mo at mga dvd at bili na ng new avr ano pa hinihintay mo!!!!!!! ;D
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:59 AM
levi,Bro i might see your yammy in assorted buy and sell one of this days he!!he!! laki ng price difference ng yam 1300 sa 1803 :(
congrats bro..any way pls post ur comments ocz im deciding kung 1803 or yammy 1300 ang kukunin ko. Thank u very much sir. :)
Dex,
ganun na nga yun eh..eto sakit ko eh..pag may nagustuhan ako eh hindi ako mapakali..pati sa bahay esep nang esep..pero kung maganda ang review ni levi sa 1803... tataas nang ilang points ang denon kesa yammy..imagine 10k ang diperensya.. 1 pair na rin ata nang mission speakers yun or konti na lang eh tatlong 8.1 na yun pag naka dts-es na ehehehe
he!!he!! i have a nice plan so far sana matuloy,will retain muna yung nsp 220 .with the help of killer eyes sa dm 303 nya.pasok na pasok yung plano ko.Benta ko yung receiver ko then get 1803.complete 6.1 na he!!he!!
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:12 AM
ako din..ipon muna..benta yung 520...hindi na siguro yung 1300...then bili nang tatlong 8.1 yahooooo...mahal masyado yuung b&w kaya wharf na lang ehehehehe...
Dami line up nang upgrade e
1. Better Receiver DTS-ES 6.1
2. better TV prbably 34 inch
3. Progressive Scan DVD Player
4. Another sub para dalawa ulit
5. Good Cables
6. Kevlar Bullet proof vest - just in case barilin ako ni misis ;D
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:18 AM
lupit mo bro naka 6.1 ka na pag nagkataon hehehe ako 5.1 pa lang din malamang next year pa ako makapag upgrade ng 6.1 :( sa ngayon tyaga muna ako sa 1602 ko :( :'( :-\
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:23 AM
putsa fafa jason pang harang mo yung speaker mo hehehe ayus yan...Bro,
lupit mo bro naka 6.1 ka na pag nagkataon hehehe ako 5.1 pa lang din malamang next year pa ako makapag upgrade ng 6.1 :( sa ngayon tyaga muna ako sa 1602 ko :( :'( :-\
Sana nga ako rin matuloy..with your help of course para maganda ang fronts ko he!!he!! isipin mo dm303 tapos satellite lang yung front at rear center,then satellite din yung rear surrounds ko.
Bro jason,
alaxan nalang pampatanggal sakit ng katawan mo he!!he!!
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:37 AM
ang sarap sana mag upgrade ng avr kaso ala na talagang budget ipon na lang ako or yung kukunin ko yung paglulumaan ni jason na 1803 hehehe tutal after sometime upgrade ulit yan hehehe
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:41 AM
hehehe babagay ba yun? kahit nde parehas ang center mo at fronts?
ang sarap sana mag upgrade ng avr kaso ala na talagang budget ipon na lang ako or yung kukunin ko yung paglulumaan ni jason na 1803 hehehe tutal after sometime upgrade ulit yan hehehe
Bro killer,
Palit center na lang ulit bro he!!he!! i still have 5 months till you arrived here in pinas to hand me your 303 he!!he!! Tamang tama naka ipon na rin ako ng pang center.By the way anong gamit mong center ngayon?
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:49 AM
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 10:53 AM
yung series 2 na center cc6 s2 ata yung code nde ko masyadong kabisado eh hehehe...nung time kasi na bumili ako nun eh 50% sale kaya yun na ang binili koAh ok...Basta hahanap na lang ako dito sa pinas na babagay sa dm 303 mo he!!he!! parang totoo na ibebenta mo na sa akin hE!!he!! panay panay na ang plano ko..Sana nga di ma udlot
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 05, 2003 at 11:18 AM
jason
luwas na ng manila bili na ng 1803
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 12:43 PM
wag ka magulo eehehehehe..wa pa ako pera... ;D
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 05, 2003 at 02:16 PM
hey guys,
maybe im in the right place... meron ba kayong idea about the denon avc-3570? anyone auditioned this before? kasi im more into yamaha receivers, so zero-idea ako when it comes to denon. can u give me some important differences/advantages of denon compared to yamaha. thanks alot!
also, is this 3570 a new model or an old one? thanks again! :)
avc-3570- i think its either an old model or could be the euro version of a particular receiver. honestly, never seen this on the denon website.
as for the difference between the yamaha and denon receivers, try checking the comparison thread. what i understand though is that yamaha receivers are supposed to be very bright and ideal for movies, but not too great when it comes to music. the denon is more versatile. still it comes down to what speakers you will match your amp with though. but, this being a denon thread...of course denon's are better than yamys ;D
dex & courage.....sana kinuha nyo nalang yung 1803 ni hyperaudio. was a great price to miss out on ;D good luck on your upgrades bros
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 02:21 PM
oo nga eh..kung may pera lang ako eh di sana niluwas ko na agad yun eh...need to sell my amps nd some dvd's pa eh..so baka matagalan pa rin
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 05, 2003 at 02:38 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 05, 2003 at 02:48 PM
Post by: dexterc on Feb 05, 2003 at 04:05 PM
hey guys,
maybe im in the right place... meron ba kayong idea about the denon avc-3570? anyone auditioned this before? kasi im more into yamaha receivers, so zero-idea ako when it comes to denon. can u give me some important differences/advantages of denon compared to yamaha. thanks alot!
also, is this 3570 a new model or an old one? thanks again! :)
avc-3570- i think its either an old model or could be the euro version of a particular receiver. honestly, never seen this on the denon website.
as for the difference between the yamaha and denon receivers, try checking the comparison thread. what i understand though is that yamaha receivers are supposed to be very bright and ideal for movies, but not too great when it comes to music. the denon is more versatile. still it comes down to what speakers you will match your amp with though. but, this being a denon thread...of course denon's are better than yamys ;D
dex & courage.....sana kinuha nyo nalang yung 1803 ni hyperaudio. was a great price to miss out on ;D good luck on your upgrades bros
I'll definitely go for an upgrade of receiver this coming june..Supposed to be TV ang upgrade ko pero nag bago isip ng ermats ko so..i might just sell my yammy 420 too then add my mid year bonus..I guess ok na yun if the quotation for 1803 will range 23 to 25k.Right now kasi no enough moolah available to cash out...Plus crossing my fingers dm 303 from killers eyes this july..sakto na yun
Post by: toyks on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:09 PM
thanks 'pre!... mukhang euro version nga sya...
ano bang latest model ng denon ngayon? oo nga pala, nabanggit nung sales rep nung store na pinagtanungan ko na dalawang modes lang ata yung cinema ng denon? normal and....nakalimutan ko na ata yung isa. since i haven't tested yet the denon receivers, totoo ba 'to?
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 05, 2003 at 05:26 PM
bunkieboy,
thanks 'pre!... mukhang euro version nga sya...
ano bang latest model ng denon ngayon? oo nga pala, nabanggit nung sales rep nung store na pinagtanungan ko na dalawang modes lang ata yung cinema ng denon? normal and....nakalimutan ko na ata yung isa. since i haven't tested yet the denon receivers, totoo ba 'to?
i think the sales person you asked doesn't exactlyknow what he is talking about. i don't really use the other modes except for the thx, but i know marami rin na options. not as many as the yamy though...but you dont need them anyway.
as for models these are the one's i know are out:
avc-a1sr
avc-a11sr (this is what i am using ;D )
avr-3803
avr-2803 (not sure kung lumabas na 'to)
avr-1803 (the favorite of this thread)
avr-1603
avr-1403
in the states the a1sr is the 5803 and the a11sr is the 4802 (the 4802 though isn't a thx ultra 2 unlike the a11sr ;D )
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 05, 2003 at 06:10 PM
1803 as the favorite...siguro dahil relatively mura...
kung maraming kayag bumili ng 2802/2803 e yun na yung binili ko, may preouts pa. :(
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:40 PM
2803 is scheduled in the states at around may this year... di ko lang alam kung gaano katagal bago makarating dito.
1803 as the favorite...siguro dahil relatively mura...
kung maraming kayag bumili ng 2802/2803 e yun na yung binili ko, may preouts pa. :(
wala palang preouts and 1803. i though it did
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:00 AM
IMHO, the Asian versions are massed produced sacrificing the sound quality as compared the ones sold in the US.
One word of advise...don't be influenced by reviews. The brand/model reviewed might not be the same as the ones you have.
Post by: greatbop on Feb 06, 2003 at 03:06 AM
anyway... err how can you expect pre outs on an 'entry lvel' av receiver?
it's even a surprise that 2802 has pre outs..
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:18 AM
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:28 AM
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:31 AM
fafa jason bili lang ng bili dami mo namang pera eh!!!!!
killer,
di ba usapan natin eh ibibili mo ako dyan tapos dito na kita babayaran ahahahaha
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:44 AM
toyks
about the denon avr na tinatanong mo, tignan mo muna dun brochure yung pic nya, then check mo sa internet, sa site ng denon, magkaiba ang model nya for japanese and other countries, yung 1602 na denon eh avc1550 ata dito sa japan, unlike yung yamaha almost the same model ang gamit same number magkaiba lang ng letters so mas madali matrace...
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 06, 2003 at 08:49 AM
^ doesn't the asian and us models come from the very same factory?
Something like Wharfedale made in England and Wharfedale made in China. Compare the sound quality.
How about BOSE USA, Mexico and Japan. They sound differently but with the same brand. :-\
Kenwood (US) VR-6070 THX compared with the Asian Kenwood KRF-9060D THX. Lots of features are left out in the Asian version and they are both THX certified.
Remember the Galant controversy way back 1990's where the Asian release wasn't the real banana which won the Car of the Year Award?
Guess I'm out of the topic.....
Post by: levi on Feb 06, 2003 at 09:12 AM
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 09:30 AM
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Levi,
do u think it has enough power to drive my wharfdale 8.3? since we all know that the wharfs is very hard to drive.
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 06, 2003 at 09:57 AM
^ doesn't the asian and us models come from the very same factory?
anyway... err how can you expect pre outs on an 'entry lvel' av receiver?
it's even a surprise that 2802 has pre outs..
what i've read read is that since last year that the 3803 and up will be made in the japan factories while the 2803 models and below are supposed to be made na in korea or taiwan. doesn't exactly matter since its the same denon quality put into each unit wherever they are made. i dont believe thought that the US versions are superior to the Asian models. Papayag ba ang mga japanese consumers na inferior ang mga toys nila?
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:07 AM
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Congrats on your new toy! As I have sent you, I had no gripes about the Denon's performance in theater and in multichannel listening. Magaling talaga! I just have to go to my audio set up for 2 channel audio listening though. ;D
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:20 AM
Post by: bunkieboy on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:44 AM
Meron bang preouts yung 1803?
someone on the thread said wala. but to be sure check mo nalang sa denon.com
Post by: levi on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:05 PM
Nirvblakr,
I tried to test the 1803 yesterday and Im very satisfied with the performance. Its warm ( not bright ) which is one of the reason I upgraded from Yammie to Denon. It has more features than you would expect from this level, unfortunately the multiroom was not available. Its 10T cheaper than the Harman 5500 which I was eyeing but Im also happy with the Denon. It has more than enough power for my B&W 602 and made my Velodyne sound better. I have nothing against Yammie, its a great brand but I just want natural sound when watching movies. I dont want the tanks to sound like tin cans. Just my 2 cent
Levi,
do u think it has enough power to drive my wharfdale 8.3? since we all know that the wharfs is very hard to drive.
I think it can because it can drive my 86db Wharfedale Diamond 4 . To make sure you can bring your wharfedale to architectural audio and try if it will be a good match.
Nirv,
I agree with you, It is more on personal preferences. All of these branded receivers are good.
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:58 PM
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:03 PM
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:14 PM
pushed up to -10db(malakas na) without any distortion.
;)
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:22 PM
Post by: greatbop on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:25 PM
Quote
what i've read read is that since last year that the 3803 and up will be made in the japan factories while the 2803 models and below are supposed to be made na in korea or taiwan. doesn't exactly matter since its the same denon quality put into each unit wherever they are made. i dont believe thought that the US versions are superior to the Asian models. Papayag ba ang mga japanese consumers na inferior ang mga toys nila?
yeah.. you are right.
1603 is China
1803 is Korea
2802 is STILL Japan - till 2803 comes up. Tapos dunno na.
3803 and up is still Japan.
And i think they all come from the same factory eh.. depending on the models. I guess by moving the factory from Japan to china, they're able to give an extra amplified channel. and still keeping the same price as the older models (denon 1803).
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 02:36 PM
i've heard the 1803 driving wharf 8.4 in shang.
pushed up to -10db(malakas na) without any distortion.
;)
How does it sound with the wharfs? Ok ba?
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 06, 2003 at 04:00 PM
Siyempre mas lamang sa bass ang wharf pero kung may sub ka, mukhang mas ok ng konti yung m73 sa ht. mas clear ang tunog sa mission. pero medyo malaki ang difference nila sa presyo.
wharfs are good enough for me. siguro dahil sawa na ako sa medyo matinis na tunog. My previous setup was a pioneer receiver with pioneer satellites. medyo masakit na sa tenga kapag matagal ka na nagpapatugtog. I now have a pair of 8.1s and so far no regrets! ;D
yung 8.4 and center pagiipunan ko pa...
Post by: Courage on Feb 06, 2003 at 04:09 PM
thanks for the short comment on wharfs and 1803.. now this will really make me think :)
Post by: john5479 on Feb 06, 2003 at 10:45 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 07, 2003 at 12:03 AM
I wonder how the amps in the denon handle biwiring with the wharfs? ;D
Generally, it would have an improvement in the clarity of the Wharfes. This is yet left to be auditioned though...
Post by: sartre on Feb 07, 2003 at 01:10 PM
any feedback pls? thank you.
Post by: Courage on Feb 07, 2003 at 01:23 PM
trying to scout for a good receiver during my lunchbreak and saw this denon 1603 for 16.5k at spectra park square. regular price at 22k+.
any feedback pls? thank you.
Any other denon models kang nakita dun sa store like 1803?
Post by: sartre on Feb 07, 2003 at 01:51 PM
Hi courage!
I did not actually see the actual unit but the attendant I was talking with told me that they have 1803s. Too many customers inside when I arrived so I did not have the chance to ask questions. Actually my eyes were focused on the NAD T741 when I saw the 1603 model.
Post by: Courage on Feb 07, 2003 at 03:10 PM
Hi courage!
I did not actually see the actual unit but the attendant I was talking with told me that they have 1803s. Too many customers inside when I arrived so I did not have the chance to ask questions. Actually my eyes were focused on the NAD T741 when I saw the 1603 model.
Thanks bro. just in case mapadaan ka ulit..paki tanong naman price nang 1803. Thanks ;D
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 07, 2003 at 03:39 PM
wala ng tanong tanong bili na agad!!!!!!
Post by: Courage on Feb 07, 2003 at 03:46 PM
jason
wala ng tanong tanong bili na agad!!!!!!
Ahahahahahah....ayus na suggestion ah...di ako katulad mo na rich kid ahahaha
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 07, 2003 at 03:55 PM
bro pahiram mo sa akin yang 1803 pag uwi ko ha ;D
Post by: Courage on Feb 07, 2003 at 04:09 PM
sige ba basta ikaw..basta ako muna gagam it nung B&W 603 mo ha...pati yung YSW320 mo na sub
Post by: sartre on Feb 07, 2003 at 04:48 PM
Hi courage!
I did not actually see the actual unit but the attendant I was talking with told me that they have 1803s. Too many customers inside when I arrived so I did not have the chance to ask questions. Actually my eyes were focused on the NAD T741 when I saw the 1603 model.
Thanks bro. just in case mapadaan ka ulit..paki tanong naman price nang 1803. Thanks ;D
i called up spectra, 1803 is 24.5k, although he did not elaborate if it still has discount. mukha meron eh.
Post by: Dracula on Feb 07, 2003 at 08:28 PM
Post by: YrNeH on Feb 08, 2003 at 11:02 AM
geez, mura pala diyan...sabagay ok na rin dahil mas mahal naman ang umuwi ng pinas. TY bro.magkano ba ang denon avr-2802 sa pilipinas? i just wanted to know if i got ripped off. here in melbourne most hi-end HT shops sells it around $1800-2000. pero nakabarat ako kaya nakuha ko ng $1400 = 42K @ $1=P30
38t dito sa manila
Post by: YrNeH on Feb 08, 2003 at 11:25 AM
Haven't auditioned a denon receiver yet pero sabi very agressive yung sound especially on the surrounds. Is it good for playing music?hello, i'm using a denon avr-2802 and it's really good and the sound is very clean (movie & music). you just have to break in the receiver for a certain time and the more you use it, sounds even better. not only the surrounds, every channel sounds good and has good bass management. one thing i don't like is the small volume display on the front panel, big remote and DSP but the Stereo and 5/6 channel stereo are good. I even use 6channel stereo for karaoke. but if you like DSP's you may try other receivers. just my 2cents :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 08, 2003 at 12:23 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 08, 2003 at 06:37 PM
I am now in the process of matching speakers with my 1803. I just cant seem to have the right combi to suit my taste. :-\
Post by: YrNeH on Feb 09, 2003 at 05:42 AM
Yrneh- I didn't know receivers need break-in? Akala ko speakers lang.Akala ko nga nuon e ganon nga. The first time I played with it parang na-disappoint ako dahil parang mahina at gusto kong ibalik at palitan ng yammy na lang dahil mga ibang kaibigan ko e naka-yammy. But then after, reading some reviews on the net and advise from some dealers here downunder and my brother Blitzkreig who also has a Denon (1602 or 1802 yata), I realized somehow it's true - based on my experience. Before I was watching movies at -10db ngayon naka -17 to 22db e ang lakas lakas na (my HT room is 4m x 5m x 2.5). Sabi ko nga e bakit pag nasa demo room ka e ang ganda at ang lakas, naalala ko syempre demo room ay laging gamit ang receiver, kumbaga sa basketball - batak na batak.
I am now in the process of matching speakers with my 1803. I just cant seem to have the right combi to suit my taste. :-\
Regarding speakers, sabi nila Mission bagay sa Denon. I'm using JBL Studio Series II speakers and really brings out better sound quality & clarity at kayang-kaya yung 2802 ko. I've tried also B&W 600 series 3 and they're good also but JBL prevailed (to me). Pero if you want B&W, 602 sounds better and cheaper than the 602.5. Try also the canadian brand PSB, gusto ko sana kaso ang mahal e. Pero kahit gaano kaganda ang review ng ibang tao, tenga mo pa rin ang mananaig, kahit ba mumurahin ang speakers mo basta ba maganda sa pandinig mo at satisfied ka. sabi nga nila follow your ears (and budget).
...my 2cents.
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 09, 2003 at 08:50 PM
If I want to listen to 2 channel audio, I go to my separate audio setup for this. I don't use the Denon for this purpose though. Maybe after breaking in, I am hoping it would sound better in this aspect. ;)
Post by: Courage on Feb 10, 2003 at 08:35 AM
;D
Post by: dexterc on Feb 10, 2003 at 09:44 AM
Saang store kaya pinakamababa ang 1803? Might buy na kasi eh pag nabenta na yung 520 ko eh. Pls post nyo naman yung STore at yung person to talk to para pwede makahingi nang discount. Tenks guys
;D
Bro,
na post mo na ba sa marketplace yung yammy mo?
Post by: Courage on Feb 10, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Sent u a pm ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 10, 2003 at 01:21 PM
Post by: toyks on Feb 10, 2003 at 03:37 PM
can u give me some "convincing" reasons why would I choose a DENON receiver over a yamaha... ???
kasi i used to own a DSP-AX2200, kaso binenta ko na sya (actually, yung buong HT setup). Just a few months ago, im 100% sure to buy (again) a YAMAHA receiver... maybe ax-2300, but ever since i've read this thread... parang konti-konti nagbabago yung plan ko about the yamaha receiver. yeah i agree na wala syang gaanong dating when it comes to music... but is that all? yun ba ang main difference nila? i think yamaha is really good in movies... and i want a 50/50 receiver (music/movies). do you think ax2300 of yamaha can give me this 50/50?
also, anong katumbas ng ax2300 sa mga models ng denon?
thanks alot!!! :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 10, 2003 at 04:20 PM
courage- try mo Image Video Harrison. That's where I bought mine. Ask for Joel ;)
Mel,
Tenks bro :)
Post by: levi on Feb 10, 2003 at 09:31 PM
hey guys,
can u give me some "convincing" reasons why would I choose a DENON receiver over a yamaha... ???
kasi i used to own a DSP-AX2200, kaso binenta ko na sya (actually, yung buong HT setup). Just a few months ago, im 100% sure to buy (again) a YAMAHA receiver... maybe ax-2300, but ever since i've read this thread... parang konti-konti nagbabago yung plan ko about the yamaha receiver. yeah i agree na wala syang gaanong dating when it comes to music... but is that all? yun ba ang main difference nila? i think yamaha is really good in movies... and i want a 50/50 receiver (music/movies). do you think ax2300 of yamaha can give me this 50/50?
also, anong katumbas ng ax2300 sa mga models ng denon?
thanks alot!!! :)
Its hard to choose because both brands are good. It will depend on what type of sound you like.For example, if you want it warm (natural sound) for music and movies go for Denon. If you want it bright ( crispy highs ) for music and movies go for Yamaha. Try to listen to both and you will know what you want.
Post by: toyks on Feb 11, 2003 at 07:44 AM
anyway, can u tell me the DSP modes of denon... sabi kasi sa kin nung sales rep dito na two modes lang daw sa movies... is this true?
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 11, 2003 at 09:20 AM
konti lang talaga ang dsp mode ng denon compared sa yamaha, but for me ok naman kasi ang denon dahil nde ko din gusto gamitin yung mga dsp, mas ok yung natural na sound for me...
Post by: greatbop on Feb 11, 2003 at 06:05 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 11, 2003 at 11:55 PM
If I have a mono movie, I use this DSP for a virtual surround effect from a mono source.
For music, go for plain stereo or DPL2 music...nothing else...
Post by: levi on Feb 12, 2003 at 01:34 AM
Post by: toyks on Feb 12, 2003 at 07:53 AM
i went to the electronics store last night and i found this denon model which i like, AVC-3570N. this is a japanese version so i think if im not mistaken, it is the equivalent model of the 3803. here is the power rating and features:
Power Amp:
Front, Center, Surround, Surround Back: 110W (8 ohms)
150W (6 ohms)
dolby digital EX (pro-logic II)
dts-es (extended surround)
dts-es (96/24)
AAC
DDSC digital
it is worth 117,000 yen (52k PHP)... but i think this is still negotiable.
how much is the 2803 or 3803 in PHP? meron bang model na 3803 ???
thanks!
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 12, 2003 at 08:58 AM
Post by: toyks on Feb 12, 2003 at 09:46 AM
kaso kailangan ko munang malaman yung price nya sa PHP para makapag decide kung saan ako bibili. tsaka di ako sure kung anong model ang katumbas nito sa atin.
meron na bang denon 3803? kasi nagtanong ako kagabi, di alam nung sales rep yung model na yun. sabi ko baka international yun, sabi naman nya mga japanese model lang daw ang meron sila.
nakarinig ka na ba ng onkyo receiver? anong difference ng onkyo & denon?
Post by: dexterc on Feb 12, 2003 at 10:00 AM
minsanan na 'tong bili ko kasi... di na ko nag-iisip ng upgrade :) kya i-m-maximize ko na yung budget ko.
kaso kailangan ko munang malaman yung price nya sa PHP para makapag decide kung saan ako bibili. tsaka di ako sure kung anong model ang katumbas nito sa atin.
meron na bang denon 3803? kasi nagtanong ako kagabi, di alam nung sales rep yung model na yun. sabi ko baka international yun, sabi naman nya mga japanese model lang daw ang meron sila.
nakarinig ka na ba ng onkyo receiver? anong difference ng onkyo & denon?
Bro,
i audition mo rin ang onkyo para marinig mo ang difference using same set of speakers..since nagkaroon ka na ng yamaha..2 na lang ang papakinggan mo he!!he!! For sure di ka rin nakakatulog sa kakaisip nyan he!!he!!Yung 3803 wala pa ata sa pinas nyan.
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Feb 12, 2003 at 11:10 AM
We can also be reached at 811-6715.
Cheers.
Architectural Audio
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 12, 2003 at 11:37 AM
nde pa ako nakapag audition ng onkyo eh...
kung avr lang pre i believe mas malaki ang diff sa pinas ng price...
one more thing hehehe wag mo sabihing nde ka na mag uupgrade mamaya ilang bwan lang lalabas yung ibang technology hehehe alam mo naman ang electronics mabilis ang upgrade ;D yun nga lang yammy mo dati high end na eh ;) ako din dati parang ayaw ko na mag upgrade hehehe pero ngayon titingin tingin na lang ako ng second hand avr sa akihabara hehehe daming mura dun na high end eh
Post by: toyks on Feb 12, 2003 at 12:14 PM
oo nga, malaki laki rin ata ang price difference ng mga avr dito... kaso nga lang nag-d-dalwang isip ako about the warranty. kya nga right now, tinatanungan ko na lahat ng mga may alam sa mga prices ng avr tsaka minsan tumatawag din ako sa mga stores about their prices para naman makapag decide na kung saan bibili.
kung sabagay, nasasabi ko lang siguro ngayon na di na ko mag u-upgrade... pero one thing im sure.... matatagalan na bago pa ko upgrade!
architectural audio,
thanks! can u give me an idea of the actual prices of your denon, onkyo & yamaha avrs... kung ok lang sa inyo :) tsaka meron ba kayong b&w speakers?
Post by: killer_eyes on Feb 12, 2003 at 01:10 PM
natawagan mo ba yung sa binigay ko? yap prob nga din ang warranty, sarap nga lang dito sa japan eh ang dali mapalitan pag warranty nde i rerepair kung nde palit agad in a matter of mins...
kaya kung bibili din ako dito bago umuwi eh second hand na lang hehehe...
bili ka dito bro, tapos gamitin mo araw araw as in talagang todo gamit para ma testing mo agad... sa akin naman eh 1 year na no prob
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2003 at 02:13 PM
Hala ka..pag inuwi mo yan dito..maaalog yan sa bagahe..may magagalaw na pyesa tapos pag kabit mo sa bahay hindi na nagana ahahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Dracula on Feb 13, 2003 at 11:28 PM
Post by: dr_dohh on Feb 17, 2003 at 03:03 PM
Post by: Dracula on Feb 17, 2003 at 05:53 PM
Post by: levi on Feb 18, 2003 at 12:27 AM
I saw the specs of the denon 1603 it said 110 watts pero when i opened the pdf file i saw this in the power amplifier section 110 watts (6 ohms JEITA) 100 watts (8 ohms JEITA) and 70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD) what does this mean? ??? help
Dracula,
I sent you a PM explaining the differences.
Post by: Courage on Feb 18, 2003 at 08:32 AM
I saw the specs of the denon 1603 it said 110 watts pero when i opened the pdf file i saw this in the power amplifier section 110 watts (6 ohms JEITA) 100 watts (8 ohms JEITA) and 70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD) what does this mean? ??? help
Dracula,
I sent you a PM explaining the differences.
levi,
sir, paki pm din sa akin yung differences nung power rating. Thanks :)
Post by: Philander on Feb 18, 2003 at 09:07 AM
One-liner: The lower the resistance the higher the power.
Mening if you use a lower resistance' speakers it will dissipate more power, within the speaker itself not in the receiver.
We know that resistance, opposes the flow of electric current or resists the flow of signal, so pag mataas ang resistance mas nababawasan ng ang power na pumapasok and vice versa.
Post by: dni on Feb 18, 2003 at 01:56 PM
can you please post the explanation here? or please PM me too.
i somehow do understand the first 2 lines (since ECE din ako like you) but what does JEITA mean?
i somehow got lost with the third line
thanks
dni
110 watts (6 ohms JEITA)
100 watts (8 ohms JEITA)
70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD)
Post by: Philander on Feb 18, 2003 at 02:25 PM
Japan Electronics and Information Technology Industial Association
Post by: levi on Feb 19, 2003 at 02:20 AM
The higher the impedance, the harder for the receiver to drive that is why the efficiency output of the receiver becomes lower but it is safer for the receiver. Lower impedance is easier to drive, so the efficiency output becomes higher but more dangerous to the receiver because it is more closer to 0 impedance or shorted. There are several factors affecting power like current output and speaker sensitivity. Another thing to watch out is the frequency range where it was rated. A 100W power at 1KHZ is different from 100W at 20-20K KHZ.
Post by: dni on Feb 19, 2003 at 06:43 PM
kase 100W = 8 ohms JEITA then 70W nalang at 8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD
i am still kinda lost...
110 watts (6 ohms JEITA)
100 watts (8 ohms JEITA)
70 watts (8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD)
Post by: Archangel on Feb 19, 2003 at 08:00 PM
Post by: levi on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:11 PM
speaker sensitivity (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3738)
max & nomimal input power??? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3258)
PMPO (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=8981)
Speaker Nominal Impedances (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1615)
Audio power to room size ratio (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=8869)
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Feb 20, 2003 at 10:55 AM
The 100Watts rating by JEITA was most likely determined using only 1kHz, while the 70Watts rating was for the frequency range of 20Hz-20KHz.
Cheers.
if JEITA is a Japan standard then they measure it differently ba? ???
kase 100W = 8 ohms JEITA then 70W nalang at 8 ohms, 20h-20khz, 0.08% THD
i am still kinda lost...
Post by: dni on Feb 20, 2003 at 11:26 AM
thanks!! :D
DNI,
The 100Watts rating by JEITA was most likely determined using only 1kHz, while the 70Watts rating was for the frequency range of 20Hz-20KHz.
Cheers.
Post by: Qman on Feb 20, 2003 at 01:28 PM
Ive asked the official distributor of Denon in Dubai UAE and Qatar about the prices of AVR 1803
Official Denon Distributors
Dubai, UAE = AVR1803 is DH 1970 = $540
Doha, Qatar= AVR1803 is QR 2930 = $802 ??? ???
Its cheaper buying it there sa pinas than buying it here sa mid east......
So that's it sa pinas na ako bibili ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Qman on Feb 20, 2003 at 03:35 PM
What store(s) sells the cheapest DENON AVR 1803
Sa march pa naman ako nagbabalak, nawa bumaba sa 20K ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Qman on Feb 21, 2003 at 02:38 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 21, 2003 at 03:36 PM
Post by: Qman on Feb 21, 2003 at 03:48 PM
please pm mo kung magkano ang kuha mo sa denon 1803 at anong recommend mong speaker na medyo maliit. Im planning na to get your sattelites and price
decided na ko sa denon1803 eh either 2nd hand or first hand ;D kaso naguluhan na naman ako dahil nag recommend si redkoji ng sherwood eh RD6106 and RD6108 ;D ;D Im still surfing about this sa net though
tenx
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 21, 2003 at 03:50 PM
Post by: Qman on Feb 21, 2003 at 03:59 PM
paki resend iyong pm mo di yata pumasok puno nayata kasi ang inbox ko ;D ;D
tenx
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 08, 2003 at 10:09 PM
Post by: Courage on Mar 10, 2003 at 03:02 PM
So those with denon 1803 tips naman dyan sa settings ehehehe
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 10, 2003 at 06:38 PM
Have fun! :D
Post by: john5479 on Mar 11, 2003 at 02:18 AM
Post by: Courage on Mar 11, 2003 at 10:31 AM
Courage- Congrats on your new toy! As regards to settings, try to tinker with it based on your own preference.
Have fun! :D
mel,
thanks bro ehehehe..soon ipapa tweak ko naman mga wharfs ko sa iyo ipon muna ehehe ;D
Post by: levi on Apr 15, 2003 at 01:01 AM
If you turn off the receiver using the remote (stanby mode), can you turn it on again using the front panel? I misplaced my remote once and I cant turn on the receiver anymore.
Levi
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 15, 2003 at 05:28 AM
Post by: bigbird2323 on Apr 16, 2003 at 07:11 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 17, 2003 at 06:40 AM
denon 1803 or marantz sr4300-which one do you think would sound better paired with wharf/mission
It really depends on your taste but in my own opinion, a Denon 1803 with Wharfedales is not a good combination. :-\
Post by: sillyputty on Apr 17, 2003 at 11:49 AM
Post by: levi on Apr 18, 2003 at 12:19 AM
Welcome to the new owner of a Denon 1803. Firewired
Please post a review soon.
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 19, 2003 at 11:43 PM
Post by: levi on Apr 20, 2003 at 11:08 PM
levi- You could turn it off then turn it on again. If this fails, try to unplug it and turn it on again....hope it works.
Mel,
Can you try in your unit. Turn off using the remote then try to turn on using the front panel. My unit stays in stand by mode and I need the remote to turn it on.
Post by: Audioboy on May 13, 2003 at 05:33 PM
Post by: alfa on May 16, 2003 at 02:33 AM
In any case is the 3803 worth the price-up to the 2803?
Post by: alfa on May 20, 2003 at 11:22 PM
Post by: levi on May 20, 2003 at 11:49 PM
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS Extended Surround Discrete 6.1 decoding • DTS Extended Surround Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Dolby Digital decoding, including Matrix 6.1 decoding • DDSC-Digital featuring Analog Devices SHARC 32 bit floating point DSP processor • 7 Channels equal power amplifier section • 110 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.05%THD) • 150 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Analog Devices 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • Adjustable High and Low Pass Crossover(80,100,120Hz) • 2 sets component video inputs, compatible with wideband (480p, 720p, 1080i) response for progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 7.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5 & 7 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs • Optical digital output • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone 1 stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, fixed or variable level • Power Amplifier Assign function, lets you assign 2 of the 7 amp channels to drive second zone speakers directly • LCD dot-matrix programmable/learning remote features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers; backlighting main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d
3803
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 7.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital Surround EX, Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS Extended Surround Discrete 6.1 decoding • DTS Extended Surround Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • DTS ES 96/24 5.1 decoding for DVD Video • New DDSC-Digital featuring Analog Devices Melody 100 (HammerHead SHARC) 32 bit floating point DSP processor • 7 Channels equal power amplifier section • 110 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.05%THD) • 150 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • 16 Burr-Brown PCM-1791 24 bit, 192 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels, in differential configuration • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 24 bit, 192 kHz A/D conversion (Burr-Brown PCM-1804) on all analog inputs • Pure Audio mode, features 4 DACs per audio channel in dual-differential configuration • ALPHA 24 Processing (AL24) in Stereo/Direct/Pure Direct modes (left/right channels) • Adjustable High and Low Pass Crossover (40/60/80/100/120Hz) • 2 Assignable component video inputs (100MHz), with On-Screen Display • Video Conversion of Composite to S-Video and/or to Component, with on-screen display • 7 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 7.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/7 Channel Stereo • Digitally regulated volume control with .5dB increment adjustments and step range of -80 to +15 • Audio Delay adjustment to match audio signals with video signals(0-200ms) • Personal Memory Plus • 7 assignable digital inputs (5 Optical, 2 Coaxial) • 2 Optical digital outputs • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone 1 stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, fixed or variable level • Multi-Zone 1 Composite Video output • Power Amplifier Assign function, lets you assign 2 of the 7 amp channels to drive second zone speakers directly • LCD dot-matrix programmable/learning remote full backlighting • Serial Port for Third Party RS-232 Control Systems • Remote I/O ports • Assignable +12v trigger • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d •
Post by: alfa on May 21, 2003 at 12:43 AM
Post by: shine on May 30, 2003 at 08:36 AM
As of now, my set-up is yamaha rxv430 with wharfe 8.4 front and wharfe center, tapos Yamaha NS7390 surround.
Gusto ko sana mag-upgrade to Denon 1803, then buy mission speakers, siguro m74 as my front, ano kaya magandang bitawan sa dalawang floorstanders ko, at ano magandang gawin kong surround? yung yamaha o wharfe?
Post by: dexterc on May 30, 2003 at 08:41 AM
Suggest naman po kayo:
As of now, my set-up is yamaha rxv430 with wharfe 8.3 front and wharfe center, tapos Yamaha NS7390 surround.
Gusto ko sana mag-upgrade to Denon 1803, then buy mission speakers, siguro m74 as my front, ano kaya magandang bitawan sa dalawang floorstanders ko, at ano magandang gawin kong surround? yung yamaha o wharfe?
Bitawan mo na lahat ng speakers mo then all mission ka na lang..para maganda ang timbre nya...mas adviceable na same brand lahat na speakers mo from front upto surround.
yamaha and mission sounds good...i am using m73i at the moment driven by yam 420...no surrounds and center pa...i am just taking sometime bago ako kukuha..
Post by: shine on May 30, 2003 at 08:52 AM
medyo mahal ang mission eh.
Post by: Courage on May 30, 2003 at 09:18 AM
darating tayo diyan...hinay-hinay lang.
medyo mahal ang mission eh.
Hey tell me pag ibebenta mo na ang 8.3 mo ehehehehe
Post by: nerveblocker on May 31, 2003 at 07:19 AM
Post by: levi on May 31, 2003 at 09:38 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:20 AM
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 03, 2003 at 04:55 PM
8" kevlar... mmmhh ganda naman pre :D
Post by: wolf on Jun 04, 2003 at 03:29 PM
PM naman kung bakit di maganda denon 1803 sa wharf speakers.
Need your advice kasi am planning to get the speakers theis week. Budget ko lang kasi is for wharfs.
And I am planning 1803 as my rec.
Thanks
Post by: redtangent on Jun 04, 2003 at 10:26 PM
Post by: sillyputty on Jun 04, 2003 at 11:13 PM
pa pm din po kasi may sale dito si silly ny 1803 nya e... sana ok naman sya sa 8.4... but i want to audition the speakers of NIRV...meron ba pwede mag pa audition ng sets nila? NIRV?
Check mo yung setup mismo ni nirv...
1803 and custom made speakers made specifically for the 1803. siguradong swak yun!!!!
Post by: kimpao on Jun 05, 2003 at 10:39 AM
Post by: pukx on Jun 05, 2003 at 11:58 AM
pukx 8)
Post by: Audioboy on Jun 09, 2003 at 09:58 AM
matanong ko lang mga sir.... yung denon 1803 ba eh gold lang ang kulay...? i prefer black kasi ano kayang model ng denon ang kulay black and parehas sya ng capability ng 1803, and pa-post na rin nung estimated price para mapag-ipunan heheh... ;D wala kasing time mag-audition and magpunta sa mga A/V store eh.... :-\
pukx 8)
1803 is color gold. Ang alam kong black is yung 1403 but of lower capacity.
Post by: H a n $ on Jun 12, 2003 at 12:18 PM
It really rocks!! pre
Post by: alfa on Jun 12, 2003 at 10:52 PM
I understand American version ang Black It has same features but sa US black ang lumabas.
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 13, 2003 at 01:32 PM
Post by: shine on Jun 13, 2003 at 08:36 PM
Madalas ko marinig na mas maganda nga ang mga US model, naisip kung pareho pa rin sila nang mga components na ginagamit sa mga european/asian counterpart nila, kaya nila nasabi.
anyone can clear this up...
Just a question.
shine
Post by: sillyputty on Jun 13, 2003 at 09:34 PM
Post by: shine on Jun 14, 2003 at 01:24 AM
shine
Post by: DVDAdik on Jun 14, 2003 at 02:33 PM
Post by: levi on Jun 15, 2003 at 01:06 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 15, 2003 at 05:51 AM
Post by: pukx on Jun 16, 2003 at 06:34 PM
matanong ko ulit magkano ang price ng 1803 ngayon...?
rgrds,
pukx 8)
Post by: ADM202E on Jun 16, 2003 at 08:38 PM
Denon also uses Analog Device's Audio and Video DAC.
Im not sure of Marantz and Onkyo' converters and DSPs.
Post by: levi on Jun 16, 2003 at 09:01 PM
Post by: bunkieboy on Jun 19, 2003 at 11:37 AM
one thing i dont really like about the asian version is the lack of color choice. we are stuck with gold.
same thing with other brands like onkyo. in the US they have 3 choices. black, gold and the best color IMO silver. the silver case for me never goes out of style.
Post by: [joms] on Jun 21, 2003 at 12:12 AM
I read in Bulletin Today that 1803 is on sale for 21T plus.
yup, the 1803 is on sale and in some instances, it can even go lower than 21T if you know the owner or kung suki ka na ;)
Post by: nels76 on Jun 21, 2003 at 05:17 AM
I saw 1803 ON SALE sa Sights & Sound (Park Square 1 beside Spectra) 21K+ NA LANG. Ni-reduce ang price form 29k according sa Price Tag. You can see it from the outside of the shop.
Mura na yan.
Post by: Boo2 on Jul 02, 2003 at 03:36 PM
I have been using the Denon 1803 for the past months and i just noticed that I forgot to turn off the Dynamic Compression. Now Im hearing my movies better and its making my B&W sing.
Welcome to the new owner of a Denon 1803. Firewired
Please post a review soon.
Hi Levi!
you mentioned in your earlier post that if you switch off off the dynamic compression it produces better sound...btw how do you turn it off? i'm also using the same AVR for my B&W 601s...thanks!
Boo2
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Post by: levi on Jul 03, 2003 at 01:30 AM
Post by: Boo2 on Jul 03, 2003 at 02:53 PM
Make sure you are in DD mode, then press "Surround Parameter" then you will see Cinema EQ. Click again for Dynamic Compression. Just set it to off. You can set it to low, mid or hi also.
Thanks Levi!
Should I also turn off the Cinema EQ setting?
I'll try it this evening...
Dennis
Post by: levi on Jul 03, 2003 at 11:40 PM
Post by: levi on Aug 03, 2003 at 12:25 AM
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 03, 2003 at 12:51 AM
Have you seen the new Denon 1804?
hey sir, I knew that ur using a denon avr, can you recommend any specific model. Is there any denon avr worth ranging form 15-18 k, if there's any whre can I buy one?
Post by: johndoe on Aug 03, 2003 at 10:00 AM
Post by: johndoe on Aug 03, 2003 at 10:27 AM
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 90 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 125 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels (Except Speaker B) • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Hi/Low Pass Cross-over points(80/100/120/150Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(30MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with S-Video and Optical Digital • Front Panel Speaker A/B Selector • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, with Discrete Power on/off, Source selection and Remote Volume Control • Assignable 6th Channel Amplifier, for Second Zone with Discrete Remote Volume Control • On-Screen Display • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d • SRP $499
Post by: sillyputty on Aug 03, 2003 at 11:38 AM
Post by: johndoe on Aug 03, 2003 at 11:41 AM
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 04, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Mukhang yung US version ng 1803 e binebenta dito as 1804... hehehehehe1804 is a new model. 1803 is 80Wx6 @ 8ohms and 1804 is 90Wx6 @8ohms
cheers :)
Post by: sillyputty on Aug 04, 2003 at 11:49 AM
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 04, 2003 at 05:11 PM
if i was in the market i would definitely wait for the 1803s price tag to plummet. thats a bargain buy waiting to happen ;D
Post by: kimera on Aug 05, 2003 at 04:57 AM
Post by: gaol on Aug 05, 2003 at 06:53 AM
Post by: sillyputty on Aug 05, 2003 at 11:12 AM
yung asian model ng 1803 kasi wala pero yung US 1803 meron.
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 06, 2003 at 02:28 PM
I set the Cinema EQ to off because I want a neutral sound. Try both then decide. Check the manual, it has explanations for the use of Cinema EQ.
since Levi mentioned his settings for his receiver, i became curious as to how other denon owners have placed the settings of their receiver.
anyone care to post their settings? (levels, dsp, etc.)
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 06, 2003 at 10:23 PM
same as levi --cinema eq is off, dynamic compression is off
6th channel is on matrix mode on non-6.1 inputs
AFDM is on
input mode is on auto
tone defeat is off, bass +8 trebel +10
not using DSPs, just 6-channel stereo on karaoke&audio
speaker level settings after calibration using sound&vision FR: +10 Ctr: +9 FL: +10 SR:+9 SB:+7 SL:+9
LFE: subwoofer, 80Hz, 1 o'clock position on the sub volume, 0 on the speaker level setting
minsan pag di mapakali, butingting dito butingting doon ;D
shalom :)
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 07, 2003 at 12:49 AM
thanks for posting. my settings are a bit similar.
how do you set 6th channel on matrix mode. dont think i ever encountered that while setting up or is this a default setting?
what is AFDM?
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 07, 2003 at 02:56 PM
To set surround back channel output:
1. press Surround Parameter on the remote to display the menu
2. sa bottom part, makikita mo SB CH OUT, select what suits you.
OFF - no SB
MATRIX OFF - SB plays same signal output as SR & SL
MATRIX ON - SB output is matrixed
for more info, consult your manual. i haven't fully explored the setup process so everything is an experiment.
shalom :)
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 07, 2003 at 06:42 PM
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 07, 2003 at 09:43 PM
ok thanks. will be tinkering more with my settings tonight ;Dano ba model ng denon receiver mo?
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 07, 2003 at 10:16 PM
ano ba model ng denon receiver mo?
my baby is an avc-a11sr ;D
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 08, 2003 at 03:55 AM
my baby is an avc-a11sr ;DWOW! receiver ko sa panaginip :)
Post by: kimera on Aug 08, 2003 at 06:49 AM
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 08, 2003 at 01:53 PM
this was my dream amp last year. when i started building my setup my plan was to get a 2802 or 3802, which were what my budget could accomodate lang. fortunately ferdie (a pinoydvd member) mentioned to me this shop in HK called michael's audio. so instead of buying my receiver here, i waited til i had a chance to get it in hong kong. i didn't get to go but was able to have my dad get it for me instead. the shop gave us a deal we couldn't turn down ... so there, now i am stuck with the monster :)
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 10, 2003 at 05:58 AM
Ambassador in greenhills has a packaged price for these
1603 + whaferdale diamond = 30k
1803 + whaferdale diamond = 35k
medyo tight ang budget ko so should I go for the 1603?
where can I audition denon with wharfs?
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 10, 2003 at 07:50 PM
1603
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS A/V Receiver • Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 32 bit Analog Devices DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 80 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 110-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs, including Optical Digital with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 2 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • Component, "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Cross-over points(80/100/120Hz) • All new Pre-programmed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d •
1803
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 80 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 100 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels (Except Speaker B) • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Hi/Low Pass Cross-over points(80/100/120/150Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(30MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with S-Video and Optical Digital • Front Panel Speaker A/B Selector • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, with Discrete Power on/off, Source selection • Assignable 6th Channel Amplifier, for Second Zone with Discrete Remote Volume Control • On-Screen Display • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 11, 2003 at 04:51 AM
here is the specs of each for you to compare bro
1603
Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS A/V Receiver • Dolby Pro Logic II, with Cinema and Music Modes • Dolby Digital and DTS decoding • 32 bit Analog Devices DSP processor • 5 equal power amplifier channels • 80 watts per channel into 8 ohms, <.08%THD, 20Hz - 20 kHz • 110-watts per channel into 6 ohms, 1kHz, <.7%THD • Discrete power amplifier stage • 5 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • Virtual Surround (for use with 2 speakers) • 24 bit, 96 kHz DACs • 24 bit, 96 kHz digital interface receiver • 24 bit, 96 kHz stereo PCM digital playback • Speaker A/B (front) selector • Front Panel A/V inputs, including Optical Digital with cover • 6 Channel External Input (for DVD-Audio) with wideband (100 kHz) frequency response • Addressable digital inputs, 2 optical, 1 coaxial • One Optical digital output for recording • Component, "S" & composite video switching • Banana plug compatible speaker terminals all channels • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Cross-over points(80/100/120Hz) • All new Pre-programmed remote control features TV, VCR, DVD codes from other manufacturers • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d •
1803
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 80 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 100 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels (Except Speaker B) • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Hi/Low Pass Cross-over points(80/100/120/150Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(30MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with S-Video and Optical Digital • Front Panel Speaker A/B Selector • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, with Discrete Power on/off, Source selection • Assignable 6th Channel Amplifier, for Second Zone with Discrete Remote Volume Control • On-Screen Display • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d
how much ba 1803 ngayon, wer to buy?
Post by: bunkieboy on Aug 11, 2003 at 09:55 AM
not too sure bout price anymore....used to be P22K i think
Post by: doughn on Aug 13, 2003 at 09:36 AM
pros: good and clean sound, sounds better than my old yamaha (both in stereo mode) , although is speakers are very hard to drive (NHT) this receiver can make my room shake!!, powerful 7.1 amp
cons:hard to set-up, you will really need a monitor to set-up, no dolby-ex mode yet.
but im very happy and satisfied with it 8) (for now, hehe)
Post by: [slayer] on Aug 13, 2003 at 10:20 AM
Cheapest still is in Ambassador... 21k. Go with the 1803 if i were you. I was about to get this if i didn't get my hk 2550. :)
how much ba 1803 ngayon, wer to buy?
Post by: kimpao on Aug 13, 2003 at 07:16 PM
Bro,
Cheapest still is in Ambassador... 21k. Go with the 1803 if i were you. I was about to get this if i didn't get my hk 2550. :)
try mo si nelrey, 21.3 k yung denon 1803 (bnew). baka matwaran mo pa. bro for a difference of 300 bucks kay nelrey na ako, di pa ako kunsumido, aasikasuhin ka pa ng husto. ahehehehe
Post by: kimpao on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:02 PM
try mo si nelrey, 21.3 k yung denon 1803 (bnew). baka matwaran mo pa. bro for a difference of 300 bucks kay nelrey na ako, di pa ako kunsumido, aasikasuhin ka pa ng husto. ahehehehe
correction, 20k plus yung denon 1803 kay nelrey.
Post by: johndoe on Aug 13, 2003 at 08:09 PM
how much ba 1803 ngayon, wer to buy?
u might want to wait till novemer or december..im sure magssale pa ang denons even the othe av recivers..and may 1804 pa na irerelease dito..
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 15, 2003 at 08:12 AM
u might want to wait till novemer or december..im sure magssale pa ang denons even the othe av recivers..and may 1804 pa na irerelease dito..
gusto ko sana wait till december but can't wait na eh, I wanna finish my setup na kasi :)
Post by: BuLLeT on Aug 15, 2003 at 03:06 PM
But, if you are really sure for what you want to get, then by all means.... take the dive to the bottomless pit... ;)
Denon 1803 was my first choice before I settled for the Marantz 4300. The main reason? I used the price difference to upgrade my center speaker to a higher model.
No regrets.....
Goodluck!!
Post by: basic_lang on Aug 15, 2003 at 10:16 PM
Post by: levi on Aug 15, 2003 at 10:30 PM
Post by: mdsaint3 on Aug 16, 2003 at 12:05 AM
i cant eat,cnt sleep, i nid 2 find wer can i buy DENON 1603 receiver??? pls help..coz dis amp suites my a/v needs, n most espcially it fits my budget. i nid it asap.tnxmatulog ka na at kumain at meron nito sa archi audio at sa sound room ..sale pa.. may pang dessert ka pa
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 16, 2003 at 05:11 AM
i cant eat,cnt sleep, i nid 2 find wer can i buy DENON 1603 receiver??? pls help..coz dis amp suites my a/v needs, n most espcially it fits my budget. i nid it asap.tnx
try mo ambassador
Post by: instinct311 on Aug 21, 2003 at 02:34 PM
Post by: JT on Aug 22, 2003 at 02:56 PM
Post by: Audioboy on Aug 22, 2003 at 04:05 PM
just saw a denon avr 2803 today and it costs 35k here in the philippines. That means that 3803 will be more pricey. Dont know if there is still 3802 here but to my opinion, that is a good deal.
Post by: YrNeH on Aug 23, 2003 at 09:54 AM
Post by: dni on Aug 23, 2003 at 11:25 AM
have a friend who bought a 3802 last december 2001 for around P54k
How much is the current price for Denon AVR3802? Is 21kpesos good price for a 2nd hand mint condition unit?
Post by: doughn on Aug 26, 2003 at 05:39 PM
How much is the current price for Denon AVR3802? Is 21kpesos good price for a 2nd hand mint condition unit?
21k is good buy for 3802 8) 8)
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 29, 2003 at 04:28 AM
Guys i am selling my denon avr-1803. Just call/txt me anyone interested. reason for selling is for upgrade to higher model of denon, thanks
How much?
Post by: johndoe on Aug 30, 2003 at 02:16 PM
want to see the 1804,click here (http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photos/AVR%201804%20Front.jpg)front view and here (http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photos/AVR%201804%20Back.jpg) back view :)
Post by: s2kov on Sep 09, 2003 at 10:02 PM
Post by: levi on Sep 10, 2003 at 12:28 AM
Sorry I accidentally erased your post so I just reposted it.
Levi
Post by: Audioboy on Sep 10, 2003 at 04:18 PM
Any comments regarding Mission and Denon setup?
im using both brands. the combination is really great especially on music. :)
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 11, 2003 at 12:04 AM
i was actually choosing between the denon 2700 and yamaha 795A, which were both in the hall of fame list of audioreview with more than 50 reviews rated above 4.5/5. already at the time, yamaha and denon had a reputation for being optimized for cinema and music respectively. since my inclination was for music, and my first hi-fi gear was a denon integrated amp, it was an easy choice for me. that integrated amp was thoroughly enjoyed for 6 years, and the receiver for another 5 years, until i unwittingly got myself 200watt speakers. naturally i had to upgrade the receiver, but it would probably have lasted another 3yrs because upgrading it was farthest from my mind. when a friend of mine whom i sold it to 3 weeks ago got it home, he texted me at least 4 times saying it sounds great!
Post by: bigbird2323 on Sep 11, 2003 at 09:38 PM
Post by: levi on Sep 11, 2003 at 10:15 PM
Post by: audi0slave on Sep 19, 2003 at 05:24 PM
Post by: akyatbundok on Sep 20, 2003 at 08:06 AM
it may be possible to audition them together in 5th ave. they have denon separates in the megamall branch.
Post by: Dory on Sep 20, 2003 at 02:20 PM
But be careful nowadays in buying guys, you might buy the refurbished one, uso daw ngayon e! ;
Post by: kwela5253 on Sep 30, 2003 at 12:48 PM
if yes, how is it?
how about Denon 1804? meron na pala nito...
any comments/reviews?
Post by: garee on Oct 01, 2003 at 09:12 AM
Post by: gutierrez on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:06 AM
Post by: sebman on Oct 01, 2003 at 11:16 AM
wala pa nung 1804, 1803 pa lang.
meron nang 1804.. i saw some newly delivered stocks at soundroom podium last week.. the price is the same daw with the 1803 when the 1803 was new.. 30T.. but i think they still can lower it if you buy it cash.. ;D
Post by: garee on Oct 03, 2003 at 10:32 AM
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 80 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 110watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Cross-over points(80/100/120Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(27MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 5 sets composite and "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with S-Video and Optical Digital • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Multi-Zone stereo pre-amp level audio outputs, with Discrete Power on/off, Source selection and Remote Volume Control • Assignable 6th Channel Amplifier, for Second Zone with Discrete Remote Volume Control • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 6.7"h x 16.4"d
AVR-1604
Dolby Digital Surround EX, Dolby Pro Logic II & DTS ES Discrete 6.1 A/V Receiver • Dolby Digital, including Surround Ex decoding • Dolby Pro Logic II decoding with Cinema and Music Modes • DTS ES Discrete 6.1, Matrix 6.1 decoding • DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding • Analog Devices Melody 32-bit Fixed Point DSP processor • 6 Channels equal power amplifier section • 75 watts per channel (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, <.08%THD) • 110 watts per channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, <.7%THD) • Banana Plug Speaker Connections all channels (Except Speaker B) • Subwoofer Pre-out, with Variable Hi/Low-pass Cross-over points(80/100/120/150Hz) • 24 bit, 96 kHz high resolution DACs on all eight channels • Real 24 bit, 96 kHz Digital Interface Receiver • 2 sets component video inputs(30MHz), compatible with progressive DVD, DTV • 4 sets composite with 3 "S" video inputs • 5.1 external wide bandwidth (100 kHz) input for future multi-channel formats (such as DVD-Audio) • 5/6 Channel Stereo • Personal Memory Plus • 4 assignable digital inputs (3 Optical, 1 Coaxial) • Optical digital output • Front Panel A/V Inputs, with Optical Digital • Front Panel Speaker A/B Selector • 9 analog inputs including built-in AM/FM tuner • Remote I/O Ports • Glow-Key pre-programmed remote features codes from other manufacturers; Glow in the dark main function keys • Dimensions: 17.1"w x 5.8"h x 16.4"d • SRP $399
i can't see much of a difference in specs, can someone enlighten me in terms of performance..
Post by: raycor on Oct 04, 2003 at 01:20 AM
AVR1803: no A/B speaker selector, 80watts min. rms @ 8 ohms, subwoofer crossover (80, 100, 120), measurement in height: 6.7in
AVR1604: consist of A/B speaker selector, 75watts min rms @ 8 ohms, subwoofer crossover (80, 100, 120, 150), measurement in height: 5.8in
CONCLUSION: almost the same features in wattage, crossover sub, so its useless to upgrade from 1803 to 1604 or 1804, unless the speaker A/B selectors matters most to you but its only a 2nd zone speaker for another room, hope this help...
Post by: Grimlock on Oct 15, 2003 at 08:13 AM
meron nang 1804.. i saw some newly delivered stocks at soundroom podium last week.. the price is the same daw with the 1803 when the 1803 was new.. 30T.. but i think they still can lower it if you buy it cash.. ;D
Post by: odl on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:13 AM
Post by: H a n $ on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:40 AM
Post by: nels76 on Oct 15, 2003 at 04:26 PM
Just want to share the Inside Pix of DENON Flagship Receiver - the AVC - A1SR.
Notice the MASSIVE TRANSFORMER and the BIG CAPACITORS.
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Amplifiers/Denon/DenonAVC-A1SR_amp.jpg
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 15, 2003 at 05:14 PM
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Oct 15, 2003 at 10:30 PM
Available na ba talaga ang AVR-1804 dito sa pinas? same specs ba sya ng US version?
Yes, it is already available in our store. Please feel free to stop by the store for a demo. It's SRP is P29,990.
Cheers.
Post by: nels76 on Oct 15, 2003 at 11:31 PM
(http://www.son-video.com/Rayons/HomeCinema/AmpliAV/Denon/AVCA1SR_interieur.gif)
Post by: doughn on Oct 24, 2003 at 11:44 PM
some claim harman and nad is better in stereo (duh!! :P) receiver is made for multichannel source , if u want stereo -buy a stereo amp ;D ;D
denon more punch !
Post by: raycor on Oct 25, 2003 at 12:18 AM
Post by: nels76 on Oct 25, 2003 at 06:25 AM
agree with you.
Denon still reigns in the high-end receiver category.
The AVC-AISR (my Dream AVR) has yet to be beaten.
Sa mid-price, of course, di sila ganon kasikat.
Post by: doughn on Oct 27, 2003 at 12:14 AM
wow 5803, that is my dream model for denon, how much is that sir doughn?
he is based in states, ive the chance to listen last year when i visit him , galing talaga and ang bigat pa 62 lbs. ganda pa ng remote. my receiver(denon 3802) looks miniature compare to his 5803. ;D ;D
Post by: doughn on Oct 27, 2003 at 12:17 AM
doughn,;D ;D
agree with you.
Denon still reigns in the high-end receiver category.
The AVC-AISR (my Dream AVR) has yet to be beaten.
Sa mid-price, of course, di sila ganon kasikat.
Post by: raycor on Oct 27, 2003 at 12:50 AM
he is based in states, ive the chance to listen last year when i visit him , galing talaga and ang bigat pa 62 lbs. ganda pa ng remote. my receiver(denon 3802) looks miniature compare to his 5803. ;D ;D
i assume na maganda talaga yan 5803 kahit di ko pa naaudition, its the flagship of denon's av receiver. dami input nyan sa likod at very powerful kasi 170w yata x7. ganda rin 3802 narinig ko na rin yan. mine is 1803, siguro 1803 compare to 5803? 1803 x 10 = 5803.. hehehe :D
Post by: james16 on Oct 27, 2003 at 03:07 PM
doughn,
agree with you.
Denon still reigns in the high-end receiver category.
The AVC-AISR (my Dream AVR) has yet to be beaten.
Sa mid-price, of course, di sila ganon kasikat.
i also agree.... hoping that i could hear one someday... heheheh
Post by: doughn on Oct 29, 2003 at 11:57 AM
Ang lakas and very excellent sound with no sign of distortion even in high volumes to think the the veritas is a mamoth speakers. kayang-kaya talga. and have talked with the owner stefan, he mentioned that the denon 5803 can handle all kinds and sizes of speakers. :o
Post by: akyatbundok on Oct 29, 2003 at 12:24 PM
click here for the --> flagship receiver supertest (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Amplifiers/Denon/DenonAVC-A1SR_2.php)
- 2 Analog Devices top DSP (32bit Dual Hammerhead SHARC)
- 16 Burr Browns top audio DACs (PCM 1738-E)
- quad dual differential DACs in pure direct mode (dunno what it means but it sounds nice hehe)
- 1.2kVA torroidal trafo
- 66,000uF power supply capacitance
Post by: kimosabe on Oct 30, 2003 at 01:20 PM
Thanks a lot.
Post by: Philander on Oct 30, 2003 at 02:04 PM
Hello guys, i just want to know what is the lowest price of Denon Receivers na may DD/DTS. I'm planning buy one before x-mas pag-may natira sa bonus. ;D
Thanks a lot.
Denon 1603: ~ 15K
Denon 1403: ~ 14K
Post by: doughn on Oct 30, 2003 at 04:06 PM
Hail to the king!
click here for the --> flagship receiver supertest (http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Amplifiers/Denon/DenonAVC-A1SR_2.php)
- 2 Analog Devices top DSP (32bit Dual Hammerhead SHARC)
- 16 Burr Browns top audio DACs (PCM 1738-E)
- quad dual differential DACs in pure direct mode (dunno what it means but it sounds nice hehe)
- 1.2kVA torroidal trafo
- 66,000uF power supply capacitance
pare akyat,
king of receivers talaga ang denon 5803, u should post the website sa mga other receiver topics. thanks for the info
-doughn
Post by: raycor on Oct 31, 2003 at 01:26 AM
what do you think is the best brand of floorstander speakers to match with my denon 1803? preferably 30hz to 30khz freq response? thanks for any help.. :)
Post by: james16 on Oct 31, 2003 at 08:04 AM
hello guys,
what do you think is the best brand of floorstander speakers to match with my denon 1803? preferably 30hz to 30khz freq response? thanks for any help.. :)
you may ask sir levi about this since he has also 1803... maraming magandang speakers (dpende lang sa budget)... ;D
Post by: levi on Oct 31, 2003 at 09:12 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2003 at 10:48 AM
Post by: raycor on Nov 02, 2003 at 01:15 AM
sent you pm sir.
Post by: Gibson78 on Nov 02, 2003 at 06:17 PM
Post by: H a n $ on Nov 02, 2003 at 06:25 PM
try to contact arch audio denon dealer sila pre...
Post by: ArchitecturalAudio on Nov 02, 2003 at 10:22 PM
meron bang 1604 na binebenta sa mga shops dito sa pinas? 6.1 na kasi yun di ba? gusto ko sana malaman ang diff ng price between a 1604 and a 1803 - kung blow by blow alin ang masmaganda bilhin sa kanila - price wise. pareho naman kasi silang 6.1 any comments mga sir? :-\
Hi Gibson,
SRP prices for the following:
1604 P23,900
1804 P29,900
1803 P29,400
Feel free to call us at 811-6715 if you have any questions.
Cheers.
Post by: kimosabe on Nov 03, 2003 at 09:24 AM
Denon 1603: ~ 15K
Denon 1403: ~ 14K
Thanks for the info bro, konti lang pala difference from Yamaha receiver (forgot the model) na P13,800 ang price.
Post by: raycor on Nov 13, 2003 at 01:00 AM
can anyone hear the difference between direct mode and stereo mode, i.e. set the tone control to flat. cause i cant hear any difference in my 1803, unlike the virtual, theres a big difference between the direct and stereo. can i have your comments on this? ty po...
Post by: Philander on Nov 13, 2003 at 12:01 PM
hello guys,
can anyone hear the difference between direct mode and stereo mode, i.e. set the tone control to flat. cause i cant hear any difference in my 1803, unlike the virtual, theres a big difference between the direct and stereo. can i have your comments on this? ty po...
Even with flat settings on both direct mode and stereo mode, there will be differences in the bass mix or management.
Like for example:
Source is CD
Your current settings:
I. Main speaker: LARGE
SUB: ON (Bass preference)
Tone settings: FLAT
A. Direct mode: Sub will be off. The main speakers will sound full range.
B. Stereo Mode: Sub is On. Main speakers will sound full range, but the 100Hz below (depends on the receiver) will be simultaneously directed to Sub and Main speakers.
II. Main speaker: SMALL
SUB: ON (Bass preference)
Tone settings: FLAT
A. Direct mode: Sub will be off. The main speakers will sound full range (and will act as LARGE).
B. Stereo Mode: Sub is On. Main speakers will NOT sound full range because the 100Hz below (depends on the receiver) will be redirected to Sub only.
III. Main speaker: LARGE
SUB: OFF (Bass preference)
Tone settings: FLAT
A. Direct mode: Sub is off. The main speakers will sound full range.
B. Stereo Mode: Sub will be off. Main speakers will sound full range.
IV. Main speaker: SMALL
SUB: OFF (Bass preference)
Tone settings: FLAT
(Settings 4 may be not possible in some receivers)
A. Direct mode: Sub is off. The main speakers will sound full range (and will act as LARGE).
B. Stereo Mode: Sub is off. Main speakers will NOT sound full range; the 100Hz below MIGHT not be heard at all.
Hope this helps.
Post by: raycor on Nov 13, 2003 at 04:37 PM
therefore any speaker settings in the direct mode will always have a full range response. well i really cant determine maybe my listening area doesnt have good acoustics materials, i.e. cement floors, jalousy windows behind my speakers, two sidewalls made of plyboard, etc.. anyway sir, i"ll try to listen it out about the idea that you gave, thanks for the help.. :)
Post by: jester99 on Dec 01, 2003 at 09:47 PM
need some advise, I purchased a DENON 1404 rcvr and mission m73+m7c1+m70 speakers. what cables will best suit these equipments. (mukhang mahirap kasing magaudition ng cables).
Also what sub will match these...
Thanks .
Post by: dexterc on Dec 02, 2003 at 07:42 AM
Guys,
need some advise, I purchased a DENON 1404 rcvr and mission m73+m7c1+m70 speakers. what cables will best suit these equipments. (mukhang mahirap kasing magaudition ng cables).
Also what sub will match these...
Thanks .
Generic cables will be ok for surround speakers...if you got extra budget..try to get ixos6006 for fronts...generic will also do but theres a difference using branded..thats what i observed.I dont know to you kung mapapansin mo ang difference using cable na generic at branded. ;D
Post by: H a n $ on Dec 04, 2003 at 12:53 PM
For front try mo eccose 2.3 very good match yan for Denon and Mission mo tapos surround just use generic gauge 12 or 14.. sa raon marami... for eccose Arch Audio, & Hyperaudio..
Post by: nels76 on Feb 11, 2004 at 06:30 PM
New Look for DENON
http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/DenonAVR-3805_firstlook.php
Post by: johndoe on Feb 11, 2004 at 10:27 PM
(http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/AVR-3805S_large.jpg)
a silver version of 3805 :o
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 11, 2004 at 11:03 PM
Post by: nels76 on Feb 12, 2004 at 12:01 AM
3805 Release date is March, 2004 based on the link I posted.
Hmm. Something's exciting on the AVR's market...
Seems like they are scrambling for supremacy.
Maya't-maya may lumalabas.
Post by: Grimlock on Feb 12, 2004 at 07:58 AM
Post by: dni on Feb 12, 2004 at 09:23 AM
how much naman kaya yung 3805? malamang nakakataok yung price.. :o
Post by: CeeV on Feb 12, 2004 at 12:00 PM
Post by: johndoe on Feb 14, 2004 at 01:52 PM
how much na ba yung 3804 ngayon?
how much naman kaya yung 3805? malamang nakakataok yung price.. :o
the 3803 is on sale at 37k,probably 3804 is @ 45+k..so that leaves us @ a conclusion,3805 at introductory here,maybe,50k at least. :-[
just my guess ;D
Post by: H a n $ on Feb 14, 2004 at 02:10 PM
Post by: johndoe on Feb 14, 2004 at 02:14 PM
Grabe ganda ng 3805 pati yun spec mabigat!! :D :Dagree ako diyan! ;D kaso mabigat din ang presyo.. ;D
i will probably wait for 2805 or 1805 muna,planning to replace our yammy rxv1000 at the salas. 8)
Post by: greatbop on Feb 14, 2004 at 02:39 PM
thanks for bringing it up to me.
i was waiting for 3804... pero they're skipping that pala- which is even better..
and the BESTEST SPEC OF THEM ALL- "MADE IN JAPAN" BABY!!!!
Post by: levi on Feb 17, 2004 at 01:03 AM
tnx for the reply... well I've got this receiver rt. now (got to update to a HT) and I am quite pleased with its performance although I cant yet harness its full potential, being an oldskul, I am used to use those huge amp with simple connections just for audio and I am quite mixed up with the connections rt. now... (havent read the manual yet, too stubborn and lazy to do it)
The reason for the post is I want to know how does this receiver fares with the other brand of the same range in the market? I think I am out of sync with the current trends rt. now, being out of this hobby for a long time, and recently I just woke up and have this itch of having a good sound system again, but this time it should be an A/V thing... I choose Denon, coz the last Amp that I have is also a Denon, and it serve its purpose beyond my expectations.. it is still pumping some good music though. Is Denon still at par with the current crop of product?
Anyway, tnx for the time, I think I have to read more new stuff....
BTW.. I have a set of Mission speakers rt now for my setup, the only thing missing is a sub-woofer and a back surround (looks like I dont need it) and how to get the proper settings for my set-up.
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:12 PM
i'm just curious, what denon model are you using right now?
thanks
by the way, saw the tentative specs and technical details for the denon avr-3805, and i must say whoooooaaaa! :o but it doesn't end there, if can see the face in this thread, very elegant.
;D
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:17 PM
Post by: greatbop on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:23 PM
Get a setup disc lke Sound and Vision's or Digital Video essentials.
also need a sound meter.
Post by: Philander on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:27 PM
Post by: greatbop on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:32 PM
how does it compare? along with Marantz and Sony ES denon's one of the best a/v receivers on the market. It's a half step down from NAD receivers. but a half step up over Onkyos and H/Ks.
as for setup.. it's fairly easy... the rear is clearly labeled naman diba?
the component output goes to the TV...
connect the DVD player to a component input, an optical input, and tht's that.
then connect the speakers to the speaker out. RED is positive. black is negative.
LF = left front
Center = Center Channel
RF = Right Front
LS = Left Surround
RS = Right Surround
BS = Back surround (make sure it is turned off if you don't have 6.1)
setup:
LF CC RF
SOFA
LS RS
BS
Post by: kimpOy on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:39 PM
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/photo.asp?s=home&p=AVR%2D3805&f=AVR3805+Back%2Ejpg&c=2
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 17, 2004 at 12:58 PM
The Dolby Prologic IIx - this is the latest technology among Dolby Laboratories. If you'll remember the Dolby Prologic development, Prologic II is a technology that processes stereo music ( 2 channels) into 5 playback channels of full-bandwidth surround sound.
Now for the Prologic IIx (yep with a small x), this latest technology can process a stereo or 5.1 signal into 6.1 or 7.1 channel output. The only difference for the 6.1 and 7.1 channel is the rear center. A 7.1 setup has a split rear center at the back (2 speakers for the back).
Significance - if you'll notice the THX setup, it is quite similar because of the 7.1 speaker setup but at a lower level. The difference is the standards for the THX home theatre that require a higher watt per channel and dipoles for the surrounds.
my two cents worth ;D
Post by: greatbop on Feb 17, 2004 at 02:15 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 17, 2004 at 03:40 PM
DPL IIx's are used mostly in movie or music modes esp. Denon. Most of the discs available are suited for 5.1 setup and rarely 6.1s. So they process it to become 6.1 or 7.1 (just matrix)
;)
Post by: 5Speed on Feb 17, 2004 at 04:36 PM
Now I am re-watching my old DVD's using my new setup, and I think I missed a lot of movie character while watching it with an ordinary sony hi-fi connected to the DVD player... ;D ;D
I still miss my old Denon Amp for my audio collection though... :( :(
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 20, 2004 at 02:54 PM
hey greatbop! have it researched first before saying it's for mostly for videogames!! ;)
Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 20, 2004 at 02:58 PM
hey greatbop! have it researched first before saying it's mostly for videogames use!! ;)
Post by: kimosabe on Feb 20, 2004 at 03:23 PM
What speaker ba ang match sa Denon avr? Wharfedale? Ok ba yun.
Thanks.
Post by: alexg on Feb 20, 2004 at 04:40 PM
Wharfedale is okay speaker if you are budget conscious. But paired with a Denon, you are not doing justice to your Denon, in my opinion.
I have a Denon 1804 driving Acoustic Research speakers and a Velodyne sub, sounds good. I also tried using Jamo speakers with the Denon and they are okay. Jamo's are a bit cheaper than Acoustic Research.
My previous setup was a Marantz with Wharfedale and I was not very happy with the combination.
Post by: obey on Feb 20, 2004 at 05:36 PM
Post by: YrNeH on Feb 21, 2004 at 06:00 AM
Post by: Furry on May 25, 2004 at 05:53 PM
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
Post by: cousin skeeter on May 25, 2004 at 06:37 PM
Guys.. what do you think about the Denon + JBL speakers combo? anybody bought this or have tried it yet? they usually come in promos and such.. my friend is thinking of buying this.
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
hmmm.. i think the jbl speakers included in the denon-jbl promo package are quite small, limited range. i auditioned it before and its so-so. but for the price, i would go for yamaha-wharf diamond setup with a dq12 sub, excellente for HT. but am assuming that he plans to use it more for HT. if hes into audio, then thats a totally different story.
Post by: Furry on May 26, 2004 at 09:41 AM
The JBL speakers look pretty good but i haven't auditioned them yet though :)
Post by: zakkaz on May 26, 2004 at 10:18 AM
Guys.. what do you think about the Denon + JBL speakers combo? anybody bought this or have tried it yet? they usually come in promos and such.. my friend is thinking of buying this.i think its k as long as ur not going to place it in a big place
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
it is best placed in a small place or room
Post by: 2fast2furious on May 27, 2004 at 01:20 PM
Post by: krets pulpol on May 27, 2004 at 02:00 PM
cheers O0
Post by: bravoexo on May 30, 2004 at 05:44 PM
May 3805 na!!! 65k sa Digital Dreams (so similar stores of JBL/HK/Infinity should have the same)... pati 2200 DVD player (46k) mayroon na rin! Bili bili na!
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 08, 2004 at 10:05 AM
GreatBop,hey guys there is an exhibit of denon and jbl products outside eastwood cinema
May 3805 na!!! 65k sa Digital Dreams (so similar stores of JBL/HK/Infinity should have the same)... pati 2200 DVD player (46k) mayroon na rin! Bili bili na!
Post by: miong on Jun 11, 2004 at 04:16 PM
tanong k lang kung magkano ang re-sale value ng denon 1602?
tnx!
Post by: don jose on Jun 16, 2004 at 02:48 PM
planing to replace my receiver w/ denon. is denon/nht setup alright? :D
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 17, 2004 at 10:07 AM
new hir guys.for the home theater and audio setup it is very good quite impressing performance
planing to replace my receiver w/ denon. is denon/nht setup alright? :D
but you should be very careful in buying denon because there are many unauthorize dealers selling at a cheaper price
if you want you can try visiting spectra at parksquare 1 and u can also audition it if you want n compare with other amplifiers and speakers
Post by: fivepointone on Jun 20, 2004 at 01:51 PM
Post by: zakkaz on Jun 21, 2004 at 10:06 AM
after buying a DENON receiver ,try to call d DENON main ofc n try 2 chek weder u bought a bnew n original receivr, dey wil ask 4 ur serial no. 2 chek d authentication of d product!if you will notice the receiver, there should be a sticker on the back of the amp with 'warranty void if broken Beyond Innovation', then the plug is two round (black market is three plug), you'll fill up a warranty card...
Post by: levi on Jun 21, 2004 at 10:33 PM
after buying a DENON receiver ,try to call d DENON main ofc n try 2 chek weder u bought a bnew n original receivr, dey wil ask 4 ur serial no. 2 chek d authentication of d product!
I suggest to check the unit first before buying. It is harder to return if you have bought the unit already. Check with BI the accredited shops then upon inspection look for the sticker and the warranty card. just my 1 cent advise
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jun 25, 2004 at 11:20 AM
He'll probably get the newer models (1804, 1604 series..)
ok ba 1604? i've seen at robinson's ermita and it's selling at P17.9T (shop's name is Pacific) ;)
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jun 25, 2004 at 11:48 AM
Post by: 2fast2furious on Jun 25, 2004 at 11:49 AM
Post by: YrNeH on Jun 25, 2004 at 01:29 PM
DENON 3805 pegged at Php 56K at sights n sound EDSA shang. ;)sana kung ganyan kamura ang 3805 downunder, ansarap cgurong palitan ang 2802 ko ;D for now pagpantasyahan ko na lang muna ang 3805 :)
Post by: bruce wayne on Jul 01, 2004 at 10:26 PM
sana kung ganyan kamura ang 3805 downunder, ansarap cgurong palitan ang 2802 ko ;D for now pagpantasyahan ko na lang muna ang 3805 :)
pare hindi sulit ang 3805, parang 3803 lang un na dinagdagan nalang,... one thing, the remote is touch screen but not better than the remote of a1srg
Post by: Voodoo1 on Jul 02, 2004 at 01:20 AM
Post by: YrNeH on Jul 02, 2004 at 08:15 AM
ah, ok. tingnan ko muna baka ibagsak nila ang presyo ng 3803 :)
pare hindi sulit ang 3805, parang 3803 lang un na dinagdagan nalang,... one thing, the remote is touch screen but not better than the remote of a1srg
Post by: doughn on Jul 26, 2004 at 06:07 PM
denon 3805, h/k ??, sherwood ?? , pioneer ?? . sorry guys i didnt read it just browse thru the page but i think the denon 3805 got the highest grade of them all.
denon rules ;D ;D ;D
Post by: YrNeH on Jul 28, 2004 at 06:13 AM
denon rules ;D ;D ;Dagree :)
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 29, 2004 at 04:45 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 29, 2004 at 06:27 PM
Post by: sano on Aug 05, 2004 at 02:02 PM
what wire termination do you use on your denon? (wag lang bare stripped ends. sayang naman yung spade ng speaker wire hehehe)
Post by: jcob on Aug 07, 2004 at 11:46 AM
Cehck it out..
http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/denonAVR-2105receiver.php
Post by: jcob on Aug 07, 2004 at 11:47 AM
Cehck it out..
http://www.audioholics.com/news/pressreleases/denonAVR-2105receiver.php
Post by: noly on Aug 07, 2004 at 04:19 PM
just got myself a 3805 last tuesday sa shang. kya lang kainis hanggang ngayon di ko pa naikakabit. i have spade connectors kasi. yun dati kong onkyo 838 had the same problem so i just bought banana plugs and connected them to the spades. pero di mag fit ang same banana plugs sa connectors ng denon. mas maliit yata ang kelangan or maybe pin type.
what wire termination do you use on your denon? (wag lang bare stripped ends. sayang naman yung spade ng speaker wire hehehe)
am also buying 3805 and found out in the shop how they manage to insert the banana plug. You need to remove the plastic tubing which is embedded inside the connector. Pull it out using a jewel screwdriver kung hindi laginh nakabara yun.
Post by: chatstix on Aug 09, 2004 at 04:33 PM
Post by: zakkaz on Aug 10, 2004 at 10:20 AM
Available na ba dito sa atin ang denon avr-2805?its not available in the market only the 3805 is available and i've seen it at spectra parksquare 1
Post by: alexg on Aug 17, 2004 at 08:06 AM
No mulah to upgrade yet. :'(
Post by: eeravalo on Aug 30, 2004 at 10:31 PM
I'm new in this forum and would like to know more about the denon 2803 set-up. I recently purchased one from Sights n Sounds (SnS) Shang-Edsa to take advantage of its 0% interest promo that expires Aug31.
By following the manual, I've been able to play my dvds on dolby digital. However, when I try to play dts disks, no sound comes out. The guys at SnS said that I might have turn-off the dts out in my pioneer dvd player. I checked it and the dts out is ON.
I wonder if anyone has experienced this problem or can help me out?
Also, even if I'm able to play dvds on dolby digital mode, the dolby digital signal on the denon interface is not on either. What gives?
Thanks. :)
Post by: 5Speed on Sep 14, 2004 at 10:42 AM
Any hands-on review from our fellow pinoy DVD'ers??:)
eeravalo, have you solved your problem? what I do to my AVR when watching movies is put the selector of DD, DTS, PCM etc.. to auto mode and the receiver will automatically choose on what is your dvd player is transmitting to your receiver... If your player is in DD, then your AVR will play a DD sounds, and so on and so fort....:)
Post by: YrNeH on Sep 15, 2004 at 04:23 PM
Hi everyone!try this brod, on your remote, just press the input mode until the display is AUTO. :)
I'm new in this forum and would like to know more about the denon 2803 set-up. I recently purchased one from Sights n Sounds (SnS) Shang-Edsa to take advantage of its 0% interest promo that expires Aug31.
By following the manual, I've been able to play my dvds on dolby digital. However, when I try to play dts disks, no sound comes out. The guys at SnS said that I might have turn-off the dts out in my pioneer dvd player. I checked it and the dts out is ON.
I wonder if anyone has experienced this problem or can help me out?
Also, even if I'm able to play dvds on dolby digital mode, the dolby digital signal on the denon interface is not on either. What gives?
Thanks. :)
Post by: nels76 on Sep 15, 2004 at 05:53 PM
Post by: miong on Sep 16, 2004 at 08:17 AM
tnx!
:)
Post by: jacorb88 on Sep 17, 2004 at 12:52 PM
what speakers that best fit this avr?
thanks.
Post by: lazeeb0y on Sep 17, 2004 at 11:43 PM
Post by: zakkaz on Sep 18, 2004 at 10:28 AM
i'm thinking of buying denon 1604. any comments on 1604?1604 is good why not going for 1804 just few thousands difference than 1604
what speakers that best fit this avr?
thanks.
u can try the wharfedale, polk audio, monitor audio or acoustic energy
Post by: Voodoo1 on Sep 20, 2004 at 01:37 PM
Post by: craynier on Oct 12, 2004 at 03:04 AM
mga Sir I'm letti'n go of my Denon 1803 txtme (09189297019) or pm me your best offer,just upgraded to 3805
Sir any review from this AVR 3805? coz im planning to get this baby soon. :)
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 12, 2004 at 06:18 PM
http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/Denon-AVR3805_review01.php
It's pretty impressive. But don't be misled by its 120w x 7 rating which is really a stereo mode rating, not ALL channels driven. Here's a quote from the audioholics sites regarding its true power output:
Based on the fuse rating of 7.1 amps, we can deduce that the power transformer is around 850VA (7.1A x 120V). Taking into account amplifier and power supply efficiency and processor overhead, true output power in 7-channels all-channels-driven would be about 850 x 0.7 – 50 = 545 Watts / 7 = 77 watts per channel assuming the receiver doesn’t have built-in current limiting.
This squares directly with my caveat on its power rating in the receiver comparison thread. So it would sound no more powerful than the HK you have in mind as well. Forgetting about the power rating, its features are really something to drool over, though the review do have some cons against it.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 16, 2004 at 09:30 AM
i'm thinking of buying denon 1604. any comments on 1604?
what speakers that best fit this avr?
thanks.
in case you're scouting for a 1604, 17.9T siya sa pacific robinson's place ermita. HTH ;D
Post by: silhouette on Oct 20, 2004 at 04:04 PM
denon receivers are normally paired with mission speakers.
mismo. i'm a satisfied 1802 and M73/M71i & M70 owner. siguro another year more for upgrades.
Post by: craynier on Oct 25, 2004 at 10:53 PM
denon receivers are normally paired with mission speakers.
You got that right! ;D I have just completed my HT set-up and my Denon AVR 3805 works really great with my Misssion M34, M3c2, M71i, m3ds and my Velo CHT-10. I am very much satisfied with my set-up. :)
Next stop would be an upgrade of my player to Denon DVD-3910 to enjoy its denon link function. Mahaba haba na naman pagtitipid ito. :'(
Post by: craynier on Oct 27, 2004 at 11:53 PM
Could anyone here help me out were to sort out the especially sized banana plugs for this small sized hole of my receiver's speaker output. ???
Post by: ronjet on Oct 28, 2004 at 07:42 AM
Post by: zakkaz on Oct 28, 2004 at 11:38 AM
Does anyone here owns a Denon AVR 3805? A regular banana plug doesn't fit into the receivers speaker outputs coz the hole in the receiver's speaker output is to small for the banana plugs to go in. Anyway, for the meantime my speaker cables are directly connected to the speaker terminals of the receiver which is not really a problem pero syempre mas convinient at japorms pagka naka banana plugs lahat. ;Dyou could use a small philip to remove the small black thing at the back of the speaker output terminal
Could anyone here help me out were to sort out the especially sized banana plugs for this small sized hole of my receiver's speaker output. ???
if you're familiar with your speaker it is similar to the amp speaker output
Post by: craynier on Oct 31, 2004 at 12:57 AM
you could use a small philip to remove the small black thing at the back of the speaker output terminal
if you're familiar with your speaker it is similar to the amp speaker output
Thanks for the advice but I was referring on the output which is on the receiver's end or yung andun sa likod ng receiver ko and not at the back of my speakers coz I have no problem pluging in yung banana plugs sa mission speakers.
I hope anybody here can help me out on this one. ???
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 02, 2004 at 11:51 AM
Does anyone here owns a Denon AVR 3805? A regular banana plug doesn't fit into the receivers speaker outputs coz the hole in the receiver's speaker output is to small for the banana plugs to go in. Anyway, for the meantime my speaker cables are directly connected to the speaker terminals of the receiver which is not really a problem pero syempre mas convinient at japorms pagka naka banana plugs lahat. ;D
Could anyone here help me out were to sort out the especially sized banana plugs for this small sized hole of my receiver's speaker output. ???
If you don't often remove the cables from your receiver, a direct connection to the terminals tightly made using bare wire leads is often preferred by audiophiles as this eliminates any "middlemen" that could add unnecessary contact points. Even to the speakers. Banana plugs are nice if you have to A/B or change speakers and receivers often, like in AV stores. And using those expensive all-metal quantum plugs can be a hazard if you're not careful. I once removed a pair from my speakers, dangling together until they touched each other. And shorted my left channel. Good thing the fuse gave way first.
Post by: panucha on Nov 02, 2004 at 01:48 PM
hope this helps.good luck!
Post by: craynier on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:00 PM
If you don't often remove the cables from your receiver, a direct connection to the terminals tightly made using bare wire leads is often preferred by audiophiles as this eliminates any "middlemen" that could add unnecessary contact points. Even to the speakers. Banana plugs are nice if you have to A/B or change speakers and receivers often, like in AV stores. And using those expensive all-metal quantum plugs can be a hazard if you're not careful. I once removed a pair from my speakers, dangling together until they touched each other. And shorted my left channel. Good thing the fuse gave way first.
Thanks sa advice ulit bro! ok nga sana yung direct but I also often move my speakers and gusto ko kasi neat tingnan yung set-up kaya I prefer to use banana plugs on my system. ;D
Post by: craynier on Nov 02, 2004 at 10:08 PM
hi, you can remove the plastic plugs at the back of the reciever by using a screw driver or any pointed device like an icepick and pluck/pull them out manually.then you can use your speaker cables terminated with banana plugs.
hope this helps.good luck!
Actually walang plastic plugs on the outer surface of the receiver's speaker terminal but if you are referring to the black plastic plug in the inner surface of the speaker terminal which is really the one causing the blockage then I might try to pluck them out coz somebody also advice me this thing earlier lang and I saw it as well sa 3805 niya and it was successfully done without damage. I just hope that the plastic black ang red speaker terminals on the receiver doesn't crack or get damage when I try to pluck those out. ??? Anyway thanks for the advice! :)
Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 09, 2004 at 10:22 PM
it claims to be the world's first 10 equal channel surround receiver! this has to be the biggest receiver i've yet to see, it can rival the z9 of yamaha. it is capable of 9.1 channels delivering a whopping 170 watts per channel at 8 ohm loads. my gulay! it weighs 92 pounds! bali siguro likod mo dito. for the pics and features, you can check the denon website.
;D 8)
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 10, 2004 at 10:44 AM
has anyone mentioned the new 5805 flagship receiver of denon?
it claims to be the world's first 10 equal channel surround receiver! this has to be the biggest receiver i've yet to see, it can rival the z9 of yamaha. it is capable of 9.1 channels delivering a whopping 170 watts per channel at 8 ohm loads. my gulay! it weighs 92 pounds! bali siguro likod mo dito. for the pics and features, you can check the denon website.
;D 8)
Have read a lot about the 5803, so maybe the new 5805 is much better. Those flagship battles are indeed heating up. It started with the Yamaha Z9($4999), then the Denon 5803($4300), then the even heftier and pricier Pioneer AX10G ($6999) - all weighing close to 100lbs in 7-equal channel config (the Z9 has 2 more channels of lesser power to qualifiy for a 9-ch rig) - all going beyond the P200T price points. Where's Onkyo, HK, Rotel and NAD? (The 5-channel Rotel receiver weighs around 75 lbs and has a roller caster footing, costing around P150T last I look.) What's next?
But don't get too excited about their power ratings. A nine channel 170 wpc brute must eat at least 2500 watts of electric power, taking into account heat losses and preamp consumption. Does it have that power rating at the back? The z9 has about the same boast, but at a mere 1.2KVA of power consumption, it can only pump a REAL 120wpc with all channels driven at full bandwidth. So check the back panel's power consumption. ;D At any rate, receiver flagships have excellent preamp/processor faciliites that can rival separate processors. A $6000 flagship receiver can in fact better a $6000 separate processor in terms of bells and whistles.
Post by: kenchix1 on Dec 08, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Post by: bigfellow2k on Jan 09, 2005 at 12:51 AM
thanks in advance
Post by: 45caliber on Feb 12, 2005 at 08:04 AM
Post by: spetsnatz on Feb 16, 2005 at 01:08 AM
Post by: 5Speed on Feb 16, 2005 at 12:57 PM
Ano balak mong bilin na speakers para sa 1803 mo?
Post by: Toolbox on Mar 09, 2005 at 02:40 PM
Just need to know if this amplifier is worth the money I am spending on the whole system which comprises of:
2 Wahrfedale 8.4
2 Wahrfedale WH-2 Surrounds
1 Wahrfedale WH-2 Center
Sony WEGA KV-AR34
Klipsch or Velodyne 12" (Not yet purchased)
Pioneer or ??? DVD Player (Not yet purchased)
I'll eventually change the Wharfedale's to something better but this will have to do for the time being. :)
Post by: gaol on Mar 09, 2005 at 03:24 PM
Post by: zakkaz on Mar 10, 2005 at 01:50 PM
Is this a good amplifer? I just got it and haven't bought all my other peripherals yet.go for the klipsch sub
Just need to know if this amplifier is worth the money I am spending on the whole system which comprises of:
2 Wahrfedale 8.4
2 Wahrfedale WH-2 Surrounds
1 Wahrfedale WH-2 Center
Sony WEGA KV-AR34
Klipsch or Velodyne 12" (Not yet purchased)
Pioneer or ??? DVD Player (Not yet purchased)
I'll eventually change the Wharfedale's to something better but this will have to do for the time being. :)
Post by: baby on Apr 29, 2005 at 08:14 AM
AVC-A1XV (http://www.denon.com.hk/product/consumer.detail.php?id=70)
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 30, 2005 at 04:05 AM
cant afford that though....but a very very good avr.....
Post by: obey on May 01, 2005 at 06:31 AM
i have this reciever for almost a month na, still sa kapal ng manual hindi ko pa masyadong nagagamit yung mga advanced features niya, yung pinaka basic lang... yung dvd player ko connected sa 1705 thru a coax cable, i have a 5.1 sat up.. wala lang ako ay yung center sa rear, watching dvd is fine.. kuntento na ako, pero bakit kapag ang source ko ay from tv (tv output to reciever) kapag naka pro logic ako hindi gumagana yung subwoofer ko, gumagana lang siya kung naka 5ch stereo, 2ch stereo at direct... bakit ganun? may kailangan pa po ba akong i-adjust, same as listening to an aux cd input nawawala yung sub or bass niya, correct me if i am wrong pero yun pa kaya ay dahil sa analog lang yung inputs ko? thanks po sa mga guru dito, i've learned a lot from pinoy dvd
Try setting your center channel to "small" instead of "large". Another option would be to send LFE signals to "both" main speakers and sub (Bass Management). HTH.
Post by: PICK-UP on May 05, 2005 at 04:26 PM
saw this at the web
AVC-A1XV (http://www.denon.com.hk/product/consumer.detail.php?id=70)
AVC-A1XV you can find this at forth level Shangrila Plaza Crossing i belive the name of the store is AVDI, cool doon pre check it out!!
Post by: JT on May 12, 2005 at 10:57 AM
Post by: Toquero on May 22, 2005 at 10:56 AM
Anyone using denon 1905? Hows the performance?
The 1905 series of denon is a midlevel reciever. It is actually a 2805 without the auto setup and room equalization and lower power rating. It does do a fine job on both HT and music. Initial impression ko is medyo bilog at malambot ang bass reproduction niya compared to my old rxv440. Malaking part yung cinema equalization niyang feature in reproduction of sound. Hindi siya nakakastress sa tenga mo.. ;D IMHO it is i think medyo magkalevel sila ng hk 230 series in terms of musicality pero more powerful siya. At it's price range bang for the buck siya considering 7.1 channels with preouts na. Of course medyo maganda ang naririnig ko in terms of after sales service niya( bago na ata ang distributor nito) of which during the past years nasira siya doon.
And one thing I've noticed with this new series models when I've auditoned it with other speakers, hindi siya mahirap bagayan ng mga well renowned speakers (mission, Wharf, B&W, ...etc) ang laki ang improvement niya from the prevoius models. Well that's just my 2 cents.... :)
U can try to audition it with sonny tuazon of hometheater. They have a number of recievers and speakers there that u can compare it with .......
Post by: lakambini on May 23, 2005 at 05:15 PM
Post by: JT on May 24, 2005 at 07:21 PM
The 1905 series of denon is a midlevel reciever. It is actually a 2805 without the auto setup and room equalization and lower power rating. It does do a fine job on both HT and music. Initial impression ko is medyo bilog at malambot ang bass reproduction niya compared to my old rxv440. Malaking part yung cinema equalization niyang feature in reproduction of sound. Hindi siya nakakastress sa tenga mo.. ;D IMHO it is i think medyo magkalevel sila ng hk 230 series in terms of musicality pero more powerful siya. At it's price range bang for the buck siya considering 7.1 channels with preouts na. Of course medyo maganda ang naririnig ko in terms of after sales service niya( bago na ata ang distributor nito) of which during the past years nasira siya doon.
You have replaced your yammy 440 with denon 1905? Ganito din kasi ang plano kong ipalit.
Post by: Toquero on May 25, 2005 at 01:16 AM
You have replaced your yammy 440 with denon 1905? Ganito din kasi ang plano kong ipalit.
yup... At first I was planning to upgrade from 440 to 650. I wanted to have ypao feature. But again for a change I tried and audtioned the denon-wharf combo on both HT and music and wow.... :o it's like day and night for my taste. Medyo mas nagandahan ako sa tunog nito in terms of music and also movies. Mas malalim ang bass... Some say that this combo tends to be on the bright side but again medyo malaki ang improvement niya from the previous denon models. In fairness naman with yamaha which is actually optimized for HT and the power of 1905 is much higher.. Since for the past 2 years of using and tweaking my entry level ht setup ,YPAO feature would not matter na sa akin .I've been able to train my ears in calibrating ht systems mas may challenge ba.... ;D. And as per added consultation with other hobbyist shifting from entry level avr to another entry level avr(regardless of brand) is not practical,wala masyadong impact though a 440 to 650 is a big upgrade already I still prefer the 1905 over 650 (both on the midlevel entry) may distinct qualities si 1905 na sa aking pandinig ay aking nagustuhan especially when paired with a wharf speaker kahit nakamindset na ako sa yamaha 650 during that time. :)
And was so lucky during that time that I was able to audtion it side by side with an HK230, yammy 650, and denon 1905, U can quote me to be biased on this but one thing is certain, entry level against mid level to high level avr gear really does matter... Just my 2 cents. :)
Post by: bumblebee on May 25, 2005 at 08:31 AM
how much is the 2805? 2910?
Post by: Kobe Bryant on May 29, 2005 at 09:06 PM
Specifically, the DVD 2910 and the AVR 3805. Got it from The Home Theater for 99K (40,500+58,500)
Humahataw sobra! Now I will change my 6.1 Mission M7i series to 7.1 na hehehehe
Post by: levi on May 29, 2005 at 10:01 PM
Post by: lakambini on Jun 07, 2005 at 05:55 PM
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 16, 2005 at 10:21 AM
(http://www.mavromatic.com/images/AVR5805_lg.jpg)
The world's first true 10.1 receiver at 170watts RMS x 10 capable of driving two separate 7.1 set-ups. And at 12" high, requiring three people to carry, this thing costs more to ship than most receiver price tags.
This behemoth makes mincemeats out of the legendary Yamaha Z9. It's interesting to learn from a net forum that DENON in the US actually conducts a 9-hour training class to its dealers on how to operate this thing. ;D
Costs P375,000 at Sight & Sound Park Square. Any takers or users? (SRP is $6,000 accdg to web sites)
PS. You might need a separate Meralco power line and fuse box to get its full potential.
Post by: bumblebee on Jun 16, 2005 at 10:52 AM
"Denon's latest receiver shatters stereotypes and redefines the category."
i'd be very, very, very happy w/ this monster ;D but this is not for the average joe :( kung magkapera man, the 3805 (or rx-v2500) will top my list.
Post by: 5Speed on Jun 17, 2005 at 05:05 PM
but I can tell you that its awesome piece of metal.....hehehehehe
I've already heard it, using several floorstanders as its mains / surrounds and it just drives them with ease..... even if the sensitivities of those speakers are only 85-86.... listening to SACD's (JMLabs test cd, B&W audiophile recording) are a joy....with those expensive floorstanders being driven by that behemoth......
ohh and it looks good also even for that size....hehehe
Post by: joelcc on Jun 18, 2005 at 08:36 AM
Member Exchange | Assorted Buy & Sell | HT Equipment section.
You might want to check this out. Thanks a lot! :)
Post by: redstarrising on Jun 18, 2005 at 10:29 AM
I have Denon DCD1650GL Special Limited Edition, Gold color and with wood piano rosewood siding.
Post by: pilyo on Jun 24, 2005 at 02:42 AM
Ayan! Finally I am an official DENON member! I recently upgraded my DVD Player and Amplifier from Pioneer-Onkyo to Denon-Denon
Specifically, the DVD 2910 and the AVR 3805. Got it from The Home Theater for 99K (40,500+58,500)
Humahataw sobra! Now I will change my 6.1 Mission M7i series to 7.1 na hehehehe
hi kobe, how's the running in process of your 3805 going? it's quite amazing how the thing can play so loud without distorting! one thing, however: have you had any problems so far with the remote handset of the 3805? i got mine last november 1, and i soon came to realize that the slick remote is not reliable! hope you're not stuck with a lemon of a remote and that i'm just an isolated case (there have been problems though in other countries with the rc-969 and rc-970). last question: are you using banana plugs for the speaker connections? uh, cheers!
Post by: Jimbo on Jul 27, 2005 at 01:46 PM
meron akong denon avr 1100, di ko na kayang palitan kaya daanin ko na lang sa speaker.
solicit lang ako ng suggestions kasi balak kong bumili ng main speakers, gale 3040 versus wharfedale 8.4.
thanks!
Post by: deo on Aug 03, 2005 at 09:27 AM
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 03, 2005 at 09:38 AM
Anybody here use avr1905? Ayos ba sya? ano ba tlaga sya 80watts or 110? magkaiba specs sa denon singapore kesa sa usa.
From brochure:
Rated output *THD figures are power amp stage values.
Front: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Center: 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround Back: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Note:
Power Consumption is only 260 W.
Post by: deo on Aug 03, 2005 at 11:03 AM
From brochure:
Rated output *THD figures are power amp stage values.
Front: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Center: 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Surround Back: 80 W + 80 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08 % THD); 115 W + 115 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7 % THD)
Note:
Power Consumption is only 260 W.
pwdeng pa explain? ung dummy terms :) ??? ???
Post by: bumblebee on Aug 03, 2005 at 11:26 AM
pwdeng pa explain? ung dummy terms :) ??? ???
Read more info here (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/receiverpower.php) and here (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/allchannelsdriven.php).
Post by: FaFa_RoLaNd on Aug 04, 2005 at 03:36 PM
Anybody here use avr1905? Ayos ba sya? ano ba tlaga sya 80watts or 110? magkaiba specs sa denon singapore kesa sa usa.
80W @ 8 ohms pre! baka naman 110W @ 6 ohms nakita mo.
Post by: v0elker on Aug 09, 2005 at 02:54 AM
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/DenonAVR3806AVR4306receiver.php
Post by: Platinum on Aug 09, 2005 at 06:18 PM
new models: 3806 & 4306
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/DenonAVR3806AVR4306receiver.php
WOW! >:D
Post by: LETOR on Aug 22, 2005 at 09:16 PM
Post by: kt on Aug 23, 2005 at 11:27 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 23, 2005 at 02:45 PM
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 23, 2005 at 06:14 PM
Saw the Denon 3805 last night at Shangrila Edsa Mall. It looks so cool pala.
sir yung black ba ang nakita mo??
ganda ganda non...hehehe
pero me 3806 na.... and more models pa.... >:D
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 24, 2005 at 09:56 AM
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 24, 2005 at 06:48 PM
ganda naman yang HK630 mo eh.....sulit yan....
Post by: kt on Aug 25, 2005 at 11:41 AM
Post by: Platinum on Aug 25, 2005 at 11:47 AM
Di mo naman klangan i-sagad volume, kya oks na 1705. ;)
Post by: kt on Aug 25, 2005 at 03:41 PM
guys review naman denon1705 vs marantz4500?
tnx!
Post by: Platinum on Aug 30, 2005 at 02:03 PM
bro platinum! yung 1705 na ba lowest model?
guys review naman denon1705 vs marantz4500?
tnx!
Not sure, yan yata lowest among 05 models. For me, Marantz is NOT PAR with Denon quality. (I'm not connected with Denon). Sori for late reply
Post by: kt on Aug 30, 2005 at 02:16 PM
Post by: Platinum on Aug 30, 2005 at 02:31 PM
bro Platinum tnx for the reply! so yung 1705 yung lowest model n 6.1. n yung 1905 yung lowest model for the 7.1ch tama po ba?
Yes Sir KT :), i highly recommend denon pre. My choice before was HK or Denon.
Post by: kt on Aug 30, 2005 at 02:35 PM
Post by: Toquero on Aug 30, 2005 at 09:10 PM
bro Platinum yup denon my list thats y hirap mamili! hehe
Been using denon 1905 for almost 3 mos. now paired with diamond 8 series speakers (previous setup was yammy - wharf) all I can say is ;D ngayon ko lang na appreciate yung tunog ng diamonds ko... and the bass response 8). Before I was contemplating of getting a HK or yammy mid level avr but on the last minute audition... I chose Denon . Medyo malaki ang improvement na kasi yung sound characteristics niya against the prevoius models. And up to this moment di ko pa siya napapaauto shut off.... ;D ;D . Malakas talaga....
Imagine pairing denon with a much more powerful speaker.... :D :D......
Post by: kt on Aug 31, 2005 at 10:00 AM
Post by: jsllobrera on Aug 31, 2005 at 10:08 AM
Post by: Platinum on Aug 31, 2005 at 10:19 AM
Post by: joey on Sep 13, 2005 at 10:28 AM
Post by: Platinum on Sep 13, 2005 at 10:43 AM
Mga Bosing just aquired recently a Denon 1800 w/ B&W 602 s3. oks na ba tong setup ko for my lovenest room? konting review naman dyan if someone using thier Denon amp w B&W. thanks mga henyong bosing. ;D
Bosing joey, malupit na yang setup mo! Kaya lang mas malupit siguro yong kasama mo sa lovenest! (joke lang) ;DDenon-B&W603 din ako bro. ;)
Post by: joey on Sep 13, 2005 at 02:37 PM
Bosing joey, malupit na yang setup mo! Kaya lang mas malupit siguro yong kasama mo sa lovenest! (joke lang) ;DDenon-B&W603 din ako bro. ;)
ok thanks. medyo bitin sa bass. hinahanap ni misis yung sipa ng bass. naadic yata sa boomboom ko! ;D ;D ;D
but like you said in the other forum sub will Do. lagay ko sa ilalim ng bed para masaya saka kami... :-* :-X
Post by: lashee on Sep 13, 2005 at 09:21 PM
Post by: Toquero on Sep 14, 2005 at 07:35 AM
Sirs, OK ba sa audio yun 3805? Paired with my B&W 602 s3?Almost high-end recievers perform best on both HT and Music areas.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 14, 2005 at 04:39 PM
bro Platinum tnx for the reply! so yung 1705 yung lowest model n 6.1. n yung 1905 yung lowest model for the 7.1ch tama po ba?
magkano at anong shop meron nito? thanks ;D
mukhang black lang ang available color ??? ???
;)
Post by: Toquero on Sep 15, 2005 at 02:29 PM
magkano at anong shop meron nito? thanks ;Dsubukan mo kay Mr. Sonny Tuazon of Hometheater.... baka may stock pa siya.
mukhang black lang ang available color ??? ???
;)
Post by: kawboy on Sep 18, 2005 at 12:12 PM
magkano at anong shop meron nito? thanks ;D
mukhang black lang ang available color ??? ???
;)
Meron kay Sonny, sa The Home Theater just got a 2105 from him the other day.
anong color ba prefer mo bro?
ganda ng Titanium silver! :) sana meron ganitong kulay... sa 1905 at 1705
much better than how it looks sa picture! got a good deal from Sonny.
Give him a call. :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 19, 2005 at 09:39 AM
Meron kay Sonny, sa The Home Theater just got a 2105 from him the other day.
anong color ba prefer mo bro?
ganda ng Titanium silver! :) sana meron ganitong kulay... sa 1905 at 1705
much better than how it looks sa picture! got a good deal from Sonny.
Give him a call. :)
sir magkano 2105? titanium silver yung 2105 mo? nagsearch ako, black at silver lang available na colors ng 1705
thanks ;D
Post by: kawboy on Sep 19, 2005 at 05:10 PM
sir magkano 2105? titanium silver yung 2105 mo? nagsearch ako, black at silver lang available na colors ng 1705
thanks ;D
Bro Ronin, ask Sonny na lang the price, nice deal yan for sure.
yung silver, mukha siyang silver sa brochure, pero titanium silver ang hitsura nung actual unit.
yung tipong silver na may tint ng black na parang chrome... napipicture mo ba?
yun na siguro yung silver ng Denon. ask Sonny about it, kamo yung gaya nung binili ko. :)
Post by: backdraft on Sep 20, 2005 at 08:23 AM
Post by: kawboy on Sep 20, 2005 at 11:46 AM
may titanium color ang 1705?
Yung 2105, gold, silver at black lang ang nasa brochure, pero titanium yung nadeliver sa akin.
kaya baka meron din, inquire na lang siguro.
Post by: odl on Sep 22, 2005 at 12:33 PM
Anong speaker ang imamatch mo dito?
Post by: kawboy on Sep 23, 2005 at 10:25 AM
Kawboy, congrats on your new 2105! :D
Anong speaker ang imamatch mo dito?
Oli, musta na?
went for B&W... para neutral kasi first ko e.... pero naka 3 channel setup lang ako,
601 at LCR60 lang muna :)
post ako pics soon.
Post by: backdraft on Sep 24, 2005 at 06:46 AM
have any of you guys auditioned a denon paired with the wharfedale diamonds. how's the sound? reviews naman sir! ;D
TIA
Post by: Toquero on Sep 24, 2005 at 03:23 PM
just saw a titanium colored 1705 yesterday at ambassador-shang! gwapo! ;D
have any of you guys auditioned a denon paired with the wharfedale diamonds. how's the sound? reviews naman sir! ;D
TIA
I recently upgraded my reciever from a yammy / wharf diamond 8 series combo to denon /wharf combo. And to me it's the 2nd best path to go when upgrading my current setup being HK/wharf combo to be the 1st option path. Mahirap kasing mag upgrade ng buong system lalo na galing ka sa entry level speakers and recievers. In terms audio performance ok siya. Yung impression na ngongo daw yung tunog ng wharf sa ibang recievers can be easily compensated by pairing it with a more decent speaker wires and reciever's settings and speaker placement siyempre ...
Pero kung bago ka pa lang mag sesetup ng system mo, and prefer mo talaga yung denon brand.... If budget persist go for a Denon/ B&W combo setup. Kung tight ang budget mo u could try Denon/ Jammo combo setup also. Try to audition it @ Mr. Sonny Tuazon's shop (The Hometheater) he can provide u more options dahil he carries almost all speaker/ reciever brands. Yung Jammo E350 PLL 5 pcs hometheater kit ok tumunog. For me mas claro siyang tumunog kaysa sa diamonds. Bang for the buck siya considering 90db sensitivity ng speakers niya at entry level price range. :) :) :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 25, 2005 at 11:05 AM
just saw a titanium colored 1705 yesterday at ambassador-shang! gwapo! ;D
have any of you guys auditioned a denon paired with the wharfedale diamonds. how's the sound? reviews naman sir! ;D
TIA
sir magkano 1705? I heard 19.6T, baka kasi mas mura sa ambassador-shangrila. thanks :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 25, 2005 at 11:07 AM
Bro Ronin, ask Sonny na lang the price, nice deal yan for sure.
yung silver, mukha siyang silver sa brochure, pero titanium silver ang hitsura nung actual unit.
yung tipong silver na may tint ng black na parang chrome... napipicture mo ba?
yun na siguro yung silver ng Denon. ask Sonny about it, kamo yung gaya nung binili ko. :)
personally, i would prefer titanium silver than plain silver color ;D as per backdraft, available daw ito sa 1705 haaayyyy sana bonus na bwehehe ;D ;D
Post by: odl on Sep 26, 2005 at 09:13 AM
Post by: backdraft on Sep 26, 2005 at 10:47 AM
I recently upgraded my reciever from a yammy / wharf diamond 8 series combo to denon /wharf combo. And to me it's the 2nd best path to go when upgrading my current setup being HK/wharf combo to be the 1st option path. Mahirap kasing mag upgrade ng buong system lalo na galing ka sa entry level speakers and recievers. In terms audio performance ok siya. Yung impression na ngongo daw yung tunog ng wharf sa ibang recievers can be easily compensated by pairing it with a more decent speaker wires and reciever's settings and speaker placement siyempre ...
Pero kung bago ka pa lang mag sesetup ng system mo, and prefer mo talaga yung denon brand.... If budget persist go for a Denon/ B&W combo setup. Kung tight ang budget mo u could try Denon/ Jammo combo setup also. Try to audition it @ Mr. Sonny Tuazon's shop (The Hometheater) he can provide u more options dahil he carries almost all speaker/ reciever brands. Yung Jammo E350 PLL 5 pcs hometheater kit ok tumunog. For me mas claro siyang tumunog kaysa sa diamonds. Bang for the buck siya considering 90db sensitivity ng speakers niya at entry level price range. :) :) :)
thanks sir toquero for the tips, actually meron na akong diamond 8.4 paried with onkyo and planning to upgrade my receiver. yamaha, H/K, denon and marantz are on the list hehehe. kaya medyo naghahanap ng mga infos. heheheh. so sir OK naman ang denon/wharfe combo para sayo, il try to have a listen. hhehehe
@r0n1n
17.5K sa ambassador shang and titanium colored 1705, bili na
Post by: ronjet on Sep 26, 2005 at 03:51 PM
Post by: Toquero on Sep 26, 2005 at 06:25 PM
can anyone compare the pros and cons based on your experience between denon 1705 and marantz 4500?mas maganda po ba ang denon 1705?For me, all recievers are capable of performing better. It all depends on the proper match up of speakers. Not all entry level gears are compatible or sound good on entry level speakers and vise versa. :) :) And for a fact medyo kaunti lang kasing speaker brands ang available dito sa pinas na entry level and mid level ang budget. And kung titignan mo ang reviews nila sa international market, bihira lang ang nagsasabing pangit yung reciever nila. .. kasi marami silang choices of speakers or recievers for matchup. Medyo madalang kasi nagkakaroon ng local distributors yung mga highly aclaimed speakers sa ibang country coming from Canada, U.S. ,Autralia, U.K. etc....
In fairness on the 2 brands , since they belong on the entry level class and price range of their respective makers, both of them will perform well if paired with the right speakers and also CD and DVD players.... But that's just me... ;) Audition lang ang katapat niyan...
Post by: ronjet on Sep 27, 2005 at 12:16 AM
if it will be paired with B&W600 series3's..medyo magkalapit nga ang price nila for a entry level reciever,even the watt's per channel ata?80w-85w ba?driving all channels?
Post by: Macross on Oct 27, 2005 at 05:56 PM
guys what speakers setups do you pair with your 1705?
thanks.
Post by: lmerb on Nov 02, 2005 at 11:41 PM
Post by: bumblebee on Nov 03, 2005 at 07:28 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 03, 2005 at 07:13 PM
1705 or HKAVR135 ???
HK ;D
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 04, 2005 at 11:02 PM
(http://www.denon.com.hk/images.product/product.main.dn-p-00084.jpg)
I was actually planning to get either an RX-V650 or RX-V557 to match my new Diamond 9 speakers because I've read so many times how good the Yammy/Wharfe combo is for HT. Aside from the Diamond 9s, I also upgraded my sub to a Polk Audio PSW10 courtesy of sir Sonny Tuazon. I was ready to purchase the RX-V650 from sir Sonny when he gave me a call to sell me the Denon 1906. He said that for music, the Denon is a whole lot better than the Yammy. I was a bit hesitant since I was already happy with Yamaha especially how good they sounded with the Wharfes. He said that if I was not happy with the Denon, I could return it and he can give me a Yammy 650... so what did I have to lose?
I bought the Denon and hooked it up and powered it up right away. For starters, I played Josh Groban In Concert which is one of my favorite concerts dvds... !@#%%$$^> was my first reaction when I heard the first burst of Josh Groban's voice! I could not believe my ears! The sound I was hearing from my Wharfes was a million times better than when I still had the Yammy! I heard sounds that I had not heard before... very soft percussions, Andrea Corr's inhaling as she got ready to belt out the next note, fingers sliding on acoustic guitar strings... Grabe man! Even my wife was blown away! I could not stop. I played one concert dvd after another... EWF... Madonna... U2... Julia Fordham... Sting... all of them sounded so much better! When I ran out of dvds, I played my cds... I played my favorite classical cd - Vivaldi's Four Seasons and I found myself involuntarily smiling from ear to ear... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Grabe! The difference between the Denon and the Yammy was HUGE! I am so happy I got this AVR over the 650! Salamat again sir Sonny! Dahil sa yo... my previous 80-20 HT to audio ratio will now be closer to 50-50. See you soon when I get the Pioneer 686-A Universal Player! ;D
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 05, 2005 at 07:12 AM
Very good choice of equipment. Pioneer 686 is another winner... 8)
Universal Remote na lang kulang mo... Pronto? Harmony? Or yung Proton ni sir MAtZTER? Dali, bili na! ;)
PS -- Who's Andrea Coor? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 05, 2005 at 06:31 PM
Andrea Corr
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 05, 2005 at 06:50 PM
Post by: ronjet on Dec 06, 2005 at 02:14 AM
parang natatawa ako nung na-read ko yung post mo. :) kasi that were my impression too when i got my first HT setup(na medyo ok na rin khit di pa siya kumpleto.oh well...hope so.) and watched and listened to it. parang ganyan din ngiti ko..hehe.. ;D anyway congrats again sir.and many more dvd's to watch and cd's to listen.:) by the way, is the denon you got just as price as the 650? ::)
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 06, 2005 at 02:36 AM
the Denon 1906 was a lot more expensive than the 650
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 06, 2005 at 06:21 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 06, 2005 at 10:46 AM
(http://www.andrea-corr.org/photos/concert/ac_c_29.jpg)
Andrea Corr
I found myself always transfixed and mesmerized with her when I am watching The Corrs Unplugged.
I skip the chapter if she isnt the one singing. ;D
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 06, 2005 at 10:55 AM
Post by: kawboy on Dec 06, 2005 at 11:04 AM
ako rin very happy sa denon ko.
what color yung 1905 mo?
Post by: Assassin101 on Dec 06, 2005 at 01:54 PM
Post by: bumblebee on Dec 06, 2005 at 06:43 PM
hi! newbie lang po... magkano damage for 1906? pa pm naman at san meron available. thanks in advance!
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Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 06, 2005 at 09:51 PM
congrats bro jeck!! welcome to the club! :)
ako rin very happy sa denon ko.
what color yung 1905 mo?
thanks sir.., actually 1906 yung akin and it's silver pero yung silver nya iba eh... darker than the silver of Yammy plus has a brushed finished-- looks more like platinum...
it continues to surprise me... meron siyamg radio text so once I auto programmed the stations, some stations that support the Radio Text function have their station names and tag lines on the display ;D
Post by: EB on Dec 06, 2005 at 11:04 PM
Sana narinig mo din ang harman/kardon ;D
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 06, 2005 at 11:24 PM
Post by: kawboy on Dec 07, 2005 at 11:46 PM
thanks sir.., actually 1906 yung akin and it's silver pero yung silver nya iba eh... darker than the silver of Yammy plus has a brushed finished-- looks more like platinum...
it continues to surprise me... meron siyamg radio text so once I auto programmed the stations, some stations that support the Radio Text function have their station names and tag lines on the display ;D
ay, 1906 nga pala... hehehe... right! I got mine from Sonny as well. ;)
I was advised to get the silver color... when it arrived, what a pleasant surprise! it was in titanium silver!
mas class yung look no!? I prefer it that way...
ah yah... I noticed yung Joey and Dream station lang ata ang may radio text, marquee pa nga ata yung sa joey e. :)
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 07, 2005 at 11:57 PM
ay, 1906 nga pala... hehehe... right! I got mine from Sonny as well. ;)
I was advised to get the silver color... when it arrived, what a pleasant surprise! it was in titanium silver!
mas class yung look no!? I prefer it that way...
ah yah... I noticed yung Joey and Dream station lang ata ang may radio text, marquee pa nga ata yung sa joey e. :)
I just got my surrounds today so tomorrow matetest ko na yung auto set up mic nya... nagamit mo ba ito sir? accurate ba?
Post by: moks on Dec 08, 2005 at 10:16 AM
ano gamit mong 5.1 na speakers?
Post by: atomicat10 on Dec 08, 2005 at 03:45 PM
Post by: kawboy on Dec 08, 2005 at 04:03 PM
I just got my surrounds today so tomorrow matetest ko na yung auto set up mic nya... nagamit mo ba ito sir? accurate ba?
wow... buti ka pa! :) naka 3 channel setup lang ako e. center at fronts, pinag-iipunan ko pa yung surrounds at sub.
but I believe I read somewhere na accurate naman daw, tinest using the setup mic and tinest ulit using SPL meter. sakto daw. mukhang ikaw ang unang magte-test nito rito. hehehe... please update us sa result ng test mo. :)
Post by: wilborn on Dec 08, 2005 at 05:00 PM
However much to my surprise, the 1705 is a lot better than the 1604 in terms of the following:
1. It has more punch on the LFE probably because of the Twin Drive Rectifier(thats according to the website)
2. It gives more movie-like feeling because of the better DSP
3. In terms of audio(2 channel) listening, it reproduces a better sound due to the D/A conversion.
Because of the above, my M&K sub produces more crisp and powerful bass and it brings out more sonic juices out of my Paradigms.
Post by: paolorenzo on Dec 08, 2005 at 05:15 PM
...pinag-iipunan ko pa yung surrounds at sub.
Pareng kawboy! Ikaw, nag-iipon pa?! Parang hard to believe... ;D
Kamusta na? Kakainggit kayong naka-Denon. :-\
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 08, 2005 at 06:25 PM
Does it upconvert composite and svideo to component? I mean the 1906. Thanks.
unfortunately it doesn't
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 08, 2005 at 06:31 PM
wow... buti ka pa! :) naka 3 channel setup lang ako e. center at fronts, pinag-iipunan ko pa yung surrounds at sub.
but I believe I read somewhere na accurate naman daw, tinest using the setup mic and tinest ulit using SPL meter. sakto daw. mukhang ikaw ang unang magte-test nito rito. hehehe... please update us sa result ng test mo. :)
just mounted and connected the 9SRs today and all I can say is "Denon... where have you been all my life?" ;D Grabe man! I loaded a dvd I was very familiar with in terms of the audio experience -- Fast and the Furious Tricked Out Ed -- and ibang iba talaga... pero of course, iba na rin yung speakers ko so I cannot really attribute the improvement solely to Denon...
Hindi ko pa nagamit set up mic since according to the manual, silence is a must when using the auto set up function so I plan to do it in the wee hours of the morning when none of the usual day noises - cars, kids, phone, etc... - are present ;D
Post by: kawboy on Dec 09, 2005 at 09:24 AM
Pareng kawboy! Ikaw, nag-iipon pa?! Parang hard to believe... ;D
Kamusta na? Kakainggit kayong naka-Denon. :-\
Hahaha! Pao! Oo, tabi muna pera, 8-mo. pregnant na si libay. =) lapit na!!
kumusta baby mo? :) regards kay misis. ikaw maiinggit? yan ang hard to believe! :)
just mounted and connected the 9SRs today and all I can say is "Denon... where have you been all my life?" ;D Grabe man! I loaded a dvd I was very familiar with in terms of the audio experience -- Fast and the Furious Tricked Out Ed -- and ibang iba talaga... pero of course, iba na rin yung speakers ko so I cannot really attribute the improvement solely to Denon...
Hindi ko pa nagamit set up mic since according to the manual, silence is a must when using the auto set up function so I plan to do it in the wee hours of the morning when none of the usual day noises - cars, kids, phone, etc... - are present ;D
and when the rest of the neighbors are asleep....
I hope you live in a fully detached house... ;D
Post by: ronjet on Dec 10, 2005 at 02:49 AM
and when the rest of the neighbors are asleep....
I hope you live in a fully detached house... ;D
Naku sir kawboy! baka ngayon palang....... ma-detached yung unit ni sir eli dun. ;D..maging instant Detached house na pagnagkataon...when the rest of your neighbors are asleep ;D... ;D
Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 11, 2005 at 09:38 AM
the autoset up took a few minutes... I just hooked up the autoset up mic and placed it in my listening spot... the AVR did the rest sending out test tones from all speakers and the subwoofer... it was so helpful that I was even informed by the AVR via OSD that I reversed the wiring polarities of both my surrounds :o :o :o kaya naayos ko pa...
everything sounded better after... I checked the settings the AVR had for the volume per speaker, delay, etc... after the autoset up and they were all calibrated upto 2 decimal places
tried out Fast and the Furious again and the audio was indeed a lot better! The major difference was the surrounds which were calibrated quite perfectly... before kasi masyading malakas yung sound from the surrounds...
this will be very convenient when I move to my new place next year... autoset up na lang uli ;D
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Post by: jeckjeck on Dec 24, 2005 at 08:22 AM
congrats jeck on your new toy. welcome to the denon owners family :)
salamat sir... really very happy with the Denon
Post by: skylark on Jan 03, 2006 at 11:40 PM
Post by: kurant on Jan 04, 2006 at 11:51 AM
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Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 04, 2006 at 01:22 PM
Hi. I have a Denon AVR 1400 Receiver, I only used it for a month when my dad bought it (like 4 years ago ;D) coz i took the speakers that went with it. Any suggestions what should i do with it to fully maximize its capabilities? i know this is a very old unit.. gusto ko lang magamit bago tuluyang masira.. thanks
maybe you can post the specs of your AVR sir so we can give you specific suggestions... ;)
Post by: skylark on Jan 07, 2006 at 09:06 AM
thank's alot : :)
Post by: kurant on Jan 12, 2006 at 11:52 AM
maybe you can post the specs of your AVR sir so we can give you specific suggestions... ;)
eto sir
Power Amplifier
Rated Output:
Front: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Center: 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Surround: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Dyanamic Power: 85W x 2 ch (8 / ohms)
145W x 2 ch (4 / ohms)
175W x 2 ch (2 / ohms)
Output Terminals:
Front/Center: A or B or Bi-Wiring 6 to 16 / ohms
A + B
Surround: 6 to 16 / ohms
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 12, 2006 at 03:18 PM
eto sir
Power Amplifier
Rated Output:
Front: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Center: 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Surround: 65W + 65W (8 / ohms, 20Hz ~ 20 kHZ with 0.05% T.H.D)
Dyanamic Power: 85W x 2 ch (8 / ohms)
145W x 2 ch (4 / ohms)
175W x 2 ch (2 / ohms)
Output Terminals:
Front/Center: A or B or Bi-Wiring 6 to 16 / ohms
A + B
Surround: 6 to 16 / ohms
DTS na ba sir? Dolby Pro Logic?
Post by: kurant on Jan 12, 2006 at 08:18 PM
DTS na ba sir? Dolby Pro Logic?
Dolby Pro Logic :)
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 12, 2006 at 08:43 PM
Dolby Pro Logic :)
you can use it primarily for audio... just hook up a nice CDP and speakers and you are set IMHO... ;)
Post by: AVetc on Jan 12, 2006 at 09:52 PM
Just want to add my 2 day old Denon ARV 1906 (silver) to the Denon family owner..
Sa mga Guro kakailanganin ko po ng malaki tulong nyo..excited pa po masyado kaya
di ko pa masyadong ginagalaw..
thanks..
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jan 12, 2006 at 11:17 PM
Denon AVR-2807 A/V Receiver Wins CNET Best of CES Award at 2006 International Consumer Electronics Show; Four Other High-Performance
Denon Products Honored With Major Awards at CES
2006 International CES
PINE BROOK, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 12, 2006--Denon Electronics, one of the world's premier manufacturers of high-quality home entertainment components, today announced that its AVR-2807 audio/video receiver has received the prestigious CNET "Best of CES" Award in the Home Audio category. The Best of CES Awards were produced and judged by CNET, which announced the winners Saturday, January 7, at the 2006 International Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas. Four other innovative Denon products were honored at CES 2006 with major awards, including the S-101 Home Entertainment System ("Technology Is A Girl's Best Friend" 2006 CES Showcase Honoree); the DVD-5910CI DVD Player (Digital Entertainment Group "Best Source Product" Award); the AVR-5805 A/V Receiver (Sound & Vision Magazine Editor's Choice Award, "Best Audio Product," Digital Entertainment Group "Best Sound Product" Award); and the AVR-4306 (CES 2006 Innovations Awards Honoree). . . . . http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060112005114&newsLang=en
Due on March '06, AVR-2807 features 1080p HD signal via HDMi out.
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 13, 2006 at 01:40 AM
Hello po..
Just want to add my 2 day old Denon ARV 1906 (silver) to the Denon family owner..
Sa mga Guro kakailanganin ko po ng malaki tulong nyo..excited pa po masyado kaya
di ko pa masyadong ginagalaw..
thanks..
congratulations sir... pareho tayo ng receiver... ayos yan once you have it set up
Post by: kurant on Jan 13, 2006 at 10:58 AM
you can use it primarily for audio... just hook up a nice CDP and speakers and you are set IMHO... ;)
Whats CDP? any suggestions on what kind of speakers and how many?
Post by: AVetc on Jan 13, 2006 at 02:15 PM
congratulations sir... pareho tayo ng receiver... ayos yan once you have it set up
Thanks sir and congrats din..buti nalang may kaparehas ako at Guro pa..! ;) ;) Need your help sir..
sa ngayon kasi ala pa akong mga connectors ( cables )na maganda.Pede ka bang recomend sakin
para mag ka idea naman ako sa pag iiponan ko...thanks :) :)
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 13, 2006 at 07:38 PM
Whats CDP? any suggestions on what kind of speakers and how many?
CDP = CD Player
Since for audio use, bili ka na lang ng 2 magandang floorstanders... brand would depend on your budget and preference... best for entry level would be Wharfedales but the Diamond 9.5 SRP I think is at 14K or 15K... pwede ring Diamond 9.4 at 9K or 10K... If you have a higher budget then masmarami ka ng options... visit the Speakers thread para mabasa mo mga reviews ng different brands & models...
As most members here suggest, choose the best speakers with in your budget since mastumatagal sa yo ang speakers mo compared to your other gears...
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 13, 2006 at 07:48 PM
Thanks sir and congrats din..buti nalang may kaparehas ako at Guro pa..! ;) ;) Need your help sir..
sa ngayon kasi ala pa akong mga connectors ( cables )na maganda.Pede ka bang recomend sakin
para mag ka idea naman ako sa pag iiponan ko...thanks :) :)
Guru? Hehehe wala yan... ibig lang sabihin nya mahilig akong mag-post ;D
Not really sure what you mean by connectors/cables... speaker cables ba or interconnects? Really depends on how much you are willing to spend... there are budget speaker cables available at P60 to P80 per meter and meron namang premium brands which go for thousands for a few meters of cable... just make sure you get 14 guage oxygen free cables... for the surrounds kung medyo mahaba-haba na cables kailangan mo like 8 meters or longer, get the 12 guage... kuha ka rin ng banana plugs
Kung interconnects, same thing, may budget brands like AudioPro which sell for a few hundred pesos and are available at True Value and ACE and meron ding mga premium brands like Monster, XLO, Acoustic Research etc... in the thousands price range...
;D ;D ;D
Last suggestion, when you set up your AVR, make use of the Auto Set Up function... ayos na ayos yan...
Post by: AVetc on Jan 13, 2006 at 09:44 PM
Guru? Hehehe wala yan... ibig lang sabihin nya mahilig akong mag-post ;D
Not really sure what you mean by connectors/cables... speaker cables ba or interconnects? Really depends on how much you are willing to spend... there are budget speaker cables available at P60 to P80 per meter and meron namang premium brands which go for thousands for a few meters of cable... just make sure you get 14 guage oxygen free cables... for the surrounds kung medyo mahaba-haba na cables kailangan mo like 8 meters or longer, get the 12 guage... kuha ka rin ng banana plugs
Kung interconnects, same thing, may budget brands like AudioPro which sell for a few hundred pesos and are available at True Value and ACE and meron ding mga premium brands like Monster, XLO, Acoustic Research etc... in the thousands price range...
;D ;D ;D
Last suggestion, when you set up your AVR, make use of the Auto Set Up function... ayos na ayos yan...
Connectors..interconnects pala hehe..( kaylangan ko talaga Guru..) ;) ;) sir para san banana plugs? ano anong interconnects
gamit mo ? saka ko nalang tanong ulit sayo tongkol sa Auto Set Up di pa kasi complete speakers ko,ala pang sorround speakers..ill make use muna yong old speaker ng mini compo ko. ok na speaker cable ko..lam ko parehas ng pinanggalingan
avr natin..pm mo naman location mo baka sakaling maglapit lang tayo...eh baka pedeng masilip set up mo.. ;) ;)
thanks for helping.. :) :)
Post by: kawboy on Jan 13, 2006 at 09:47 PM
sakto yan, si jeck ang orig na autosetup guru, siya ata una nagtry nun dito e. sa pagkakaalam ko. :D
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 14, 2006 at 12:51 AM
congrats AVetc! mae-enjoy mo yan for sure. ;)
sakto yan, si jeck ang orig na autosetup guru, siya ata una nagtry nun dito e. sa pagkakaalam ko. :D
ayos kasi talaga yung Auto Setup... very convenient to use plus calibrated pa lahat ng speakers...
OT: hey kawboy, saw your e-mail address... taga-svi ka pala...kilala mo yata si paolorenzo... came from svi connect kasi...
Post by: kawboy on Jan 15, 2006 at 03:40 PM
ayos kasi talaga yung Auto Setup... very convenient to use plus calibrated pa lahat ng speakers...
OT: hey kawboy, saw your e-mail address... taga-svi ka pala...kilala mo yata si paolorenzo... came from svi connect kasi...
yah, taga svi ako dati. hahaha, 2 years na akong retired duon. di ko lang ata na-update profile ko.
yup, sikat yang si paolo, ala atang di nakakakilala riyan. :D
para di OT: once na mag 5.1 ako, susubukan ko rin yang auto setup.
AVetc, update us pag na-try mo na auto setup. :)
Post by: whipsaw on Jan 17, 2006 at 11:36 AM
But if you can wait, you might just find some very great buys here pre owned at pinoy. And have better speakers in the process. Generally naman, people here take good care of their gear.
Post by: skylark on Jan 28, 2006 at 06:15 AM
di ko kc magamit tuner. kung meron man po patulong naman pls
thank's po
Post by: paolorenzo on Jan 30, 2006 at 07:21 AM
yah, taga svi ako dati. hahaha, 2 years na akong retired duon. di ko lang ata na-update profile ko.
yup, sikat yang si paolo, ala atang di nakakakilala riyan. :D
Langya kayong dalawa... Nananahimik lang ako ha... :-X Hehehe. Fafa, retarded ka na pala? Este wala ka na sa minamahal nating employer?
Para di rin ako OT, inggit talaga ako sa mga naka-Denon. Isip ko pa palitan 657 ko with 1906 (US version)... Mahal lang kasi eh. :o
Post by: kawboy on Jan 30, 2006 at 08:21 AM
Langya kayong dalawa... Nananahimik lang ako ha... :-X Hehehe. Fafa, retarded ka na pala? Este wala ka na sa minamahal nating employer?
Para di rin ako OT, inggit talaga ako sa mga naka-Denon. Isip ko pa palitan 657 ko with 1906 (US version)... Mahal lang kasi eh. :o
ay, ala na, nag Ireland kami ni misis di ba? pero balita ko, doing better na raw ang svi. buti naman, minahal ko rin yang company na yan. nanganak na nga pala si libay, baby girl si Kaira
palit na Pao, sulit Denon. benta mo na toyota mo. hehehe. :)
may ibang version version pa ba Denon? available ba yun dito? ano difference? :)
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 30, 2006 at 10:24 AM
Langya kayong dalawa... Nananahimik lang ako ha... :-X Hehehe. Fafa, retarded ka na pala? Este wala ka na sa minamahal nating employer?
Para di rin ako OT, inggit talaga ako sa mga naka-Denon. Isip ko pa palitan 657 ko with 1906 (US version)... Mahal lang kasi eh. :o
pao... specs of my Denon AVR-1906 purchased from SGT Home Theater are exactly the same as those posted in US sites... bili ka na kay SGT... benta mo na yang Yammy mo or try mo trade sa kanya...
Post by: AVetc on Jan 30, 2006 at 06:52 PM
Anong pwedeng recomend mong sorround speaker sakin...im using wharfs 8.3 and a diamond center
sa ngayon i uses my old mini comp.'s speaker as sorruond..meron bang malaking difference or improvement when it comes to sound if i have my sorround speaker? Does the exciment on movies
increases if ill have my back sorround? :) :)
suggestion naman dyan mga guru...!
AVetc, update us pag na-try mo na auto setup. :)
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..di ko kasi matyempuhang tulog na.. ;D ;D nong isang gabi antay ko sanang tumahimik kaso ako naunang
makatulog.. he he he.lapit na nga akong maasar pagtumagal pa baka pulutan kalabasan nya.. :) :)
anyway post ko nalang sakaling complete na set up ko..
;) ;)
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:24 PM
Sir Jeckjeck,
Anong pwedeng recomend mong sorround speaker sakin...im using wharfs 8.3 and a diamond center
sa ngayon i uses my old mini comp.'s speaker as sorruond..meron bang malaking difference or improvement when it comes to sound if i have my sorround speaker? Does the exciment on movies
increases if ill have my back sorround? :) :)
AVetc, update us pag na-try mo na auto setup. :)Quote
sir, try mo yung Diamond 8 DFS.. merong for sale ngayon sa Marketplace... subukan mo rin WH2 dipoles... oo, mas gaganda sound mo kapag surround speakers gamit mo especially pag dipole
Post by: AVetc on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:33 PM
Sir,
may idea ka ba sa price ng wh2 dipole?
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 30, 2006 at 09:46 PM
try mo rin ito: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=47053.0
Wharfedale Diamond 8 DFS-23 (in BLACK) (4k neg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/odyo/HT/Diamond8DFS-23.jpg)
Post by: paolorenzo on Jan 31, 2006 at 11:29 AM
pao... specs of my Denon AVR-1906 purchased from SGT Home Theater are exactly the same as those posted in US sites... bili ka na kay SGT... benta mo na yang Yammy mo or try mo trade sa kanya...
Nadagdagan na ang requirements ko eh... Aside from the component video up conversion, I need an AVR with Zone1/2. Para puwede ko na i-output yung stereo sounds sa Patio (otherwise, I will need to separate audio components there). Yung asian model naman ng 657 ay walang Zones (US version meron).
Sa Denon naman, they have Zones, but you will have to give up your surround back speakers. So 5.1 na lang ang main HT room mo, and channels 6&7 will be Zone2. Sayang lang. Sana 7.1 pa rin yung main room, and separate channels for Zone2. So, the hunt continues...
Congrats pala Fafa Kawboy! 8) Kaya pala puro sideline ka ng Samsung phones... Mahal talaga gatas ngayon. :-[
Post by: paolorenzo on Jan 31, 2006 at 11:39 AM
may ibang version version pa ba Denon? available ba yun dito? ano difference? :)
Dati nag-inquire ako about the 2105 model from Denon.com.hk. Eto reply nila...
Quote from: Denon.com.hk
Dear Mr. xxxxxxxx,
Thanks for your inquiry .
There are 2 diferences in the features of AVR-2105 sold to USA , Europe and Asia .
USA model :
1) allow video conversion to component
2) video section bandwith to 100MHz
Europe and Asia model :
1) Not allow video conversion to component
2) video section bandwith to 30MHz
The differneces is due to the market demend and sells cost .
Best regards
DENON
Post by: jeckjeck on Jan 31, 2006 at 03:07 PM
Nadagdagan na ang requirements ko eh... Aside from the component video up conversion, I need an AVR with Zone1/2. Para puwede ko na i-output yung stereo sounds sa Patio (otherwise, I will need to separate audio components there). Yung asian model naman ng 657 ay walang Zones (US version meron).
Sa Denon naman, they have Zones, but you will have to give up your surround back speakers. So 5.1 na lang ang main HT room mo, and channels 6&7 will be Zone2. Sayang lang. Sana 7.1 pa rin yung main room, and separate channels for Zone2. So, the hunt continues...
Congrats pala Fafa Kawboy! 8) Kaya pala puro sideline ka ng Samsung phones... Mahal talaga gatas ngayon. :-[
hehehe... if I were you, I'd go for the separate audio set up sa lanai... dyan ba next 4C reunion?
Post by: levi on Jan 31, 2006 at 09:42 PM
Nadagdagan na ang requirements ko eh... Aside from the component video up conversion, I need an AVR with Zone1/2. Para puwede ko na i-output yung stereo sounds sa Patio (otherwise, I will need to separate audio components there). Yung asian model naman ng 657 ay walang Zones (US version meron).Check if there is a pre out for zone 2. Just use a separate amp for zone 2 so no need to use 6th and 7th channel.
Sa Denon naman, they have Zones, but you will have to give up your surround back speakers. So 5.1 na lang ang main HT room mo, and channels 6&7 will be Zone2. Sayang lang. Sana 7.1 pa rin yung main room, and separate channels for Zone2. So, the hunt continues...
Congrats pala Fafa Kawboy! 8) Kaya pala puro sideline ka ng Samsung phones... Mahal talaga gatas ngayon. :-[
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Post by: stratix2 on Apr 07, 2006 at 06:55 PM
I used to have AVR 1604 driving MA B4 front, CSi25 Polk Audio Center and MS902 surrounds. I do not have subwoofer primarily because of space constraints and the power that my current floor standers deliver. Back then with 1604, I can hardly hear my center speaker :-[ when used in movies or if I am listening to music in 5.1 mode. This despite the various adjustments made in the volume and other minor tweaking done. This was the normal observation until I upgraded to Denon's AVR 2803. I have not seen any thread yet for this specific series of Denon AVR's so I thought of sharing to you guys this other product of Denon.
Just had it last month and though still in break in mode, I can really tell the BIG difference of the quality of sound this baby produces. It drives my center speaker with ease :-\, front speakers with so much clarity :-* and surround speakers with vibrant details :o :o :o. With the power rating at 95W (7 channels) and max power i believe at 125W in 8 Ohms (stereo), it now gives me more leverage to choose from wide array of speakers should I decide to upgrade them in the future.
Best of all, I got the sweetest deal with the unit courtesy of SGT. I did not bother having the unit tested at SGT's place when I decided to buy it. The specs alone and the experience having used a lower model justified that it is worth every cent I am spending.
I could not compare how this fares with the other 280X series, especially the 2807, which was a 5-star awardee. However, this baby makes me feel a lot better than any other AVR's of other brands I have tested out there.
Post by: jeckjeck on Apr 07, 2006 at 07:59 PM
Post by: 5Speed on Apr 12, 2006 at 12:44 PM
just recently audition with my friend the 3805 and 3806 ng Denon since he is planning to buy a new AVR, using B&W 603 floorstander and I cannott distiguished any difference in sound reproduction....siguro features lang ang major upgrade between the two...or maybe my ears is not that delicate to hear the difference.....herehrherhe
We tried Yamaha, Pioneer Denon and Marantz.....so far Denon got his vote....with very close vote with Marantz...the overall packaging of Denon wins it for him....
Next time we will try to audition the Onkyo and HK....and probably the Arcam, Onix, Naim and Nad if his budget permits...This is going to be his first AVR since he's into two channel audio only....until he visits my house and watch the Star Wars movie with me and some of our friends....He has a Sony HT in a box right now, and he told me that he doesnt enjoy watching movies on his system right after our small get together at my house.....hehehe I think he got SARS at the moment..........
Post by: jomonds on Apr 15, 2006 at 12:24 PM
tia :)
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Post by: jeckjeck on Apr 19, 2006 at 02:46 PM
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Salcedo Village, Makati City
813 8443
look for Sir Sonny Tuazon ;) tell him you were referred by a Pinoydvd member
Post by: regulus on Apr 19, 2006 at 05:12 PM
Post by: dench on Apr 20, 2006 at 10:39 AM
I'm buying my first AV receiver and now seriously choosing between Denon 1905 and HK 235. I've read posts in the other thread and it looks like they prefer the HK 235 more. So I hope to get the opinion of Denon guys here naman.
I've auditioned both receivers already but still can't decide.
I like both HT and audio and right now i'm more inclined with the 1905 only because it is slightly cheaper, its classic look and for me Denon is Denon. I think it is the more reputable brand being the older brand in the business. That is my opinion.
Do u think I will not go wrong if i choose either of the two? Thanks for the upcoming replies!
Post by: Bravesfan on Apr 20, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Thanks in advance for your advice or suggestion!!!
Post by: Platinum on Apr 20, 2006 at 11:07 AM
Just my two cents:
It really depends on your taste because I auditioned the HK 330/430
and Denon 1905/2805 last year, using B&W603. If you like power for your HT and audio,
go for HK. If you like a "swabe" sound even at higher volumes (pwede ka pa makipagkwentuhan even at -5db), go for the Denon. Personally, my ear settled for Denon! HK at higher volume irritates my ear. Let your own ears decide! :)
-Platinum
Post by: dench on Apr 20, 2006 at 03:10 PM
But do u happen to know if Denon is thumbs-down when it comes to after sales service like availability of parts? I've read and heard kasi na ito ang problem ng Denon dito sa Pinas, hirap ng parts kung may masira. Of course this is a big factor for me. Is this true?
Post by: Platinum on Apr 20, 2006 at 03:42 PM
I never experienced yet going to the service center with my Denon (lucky maybe at maingat
talaga ako sa mga gamit). Brand new receivers, IMO, seldomly breaks down (Denon Quality Control).
However, what you're concerned with maybe is if its bought 2nd hand. Personally, in case if it breaks down, (after 5-6 yrs maybe) benta ko na, at sulit na rin. :)
-Platinum
Post by: Bravesfan on Apr 22, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Saan pa kaya ako pwede mag audition ng Denon 1706 at 1906? Galing ako sa SGT kahapon kaso wala na sya stock for demo. Sa Sights & Sounds ganun din wala naman nakaset up na Denon puro Onkyo yata nandun. ???
Thanks!!
Post by: jeckjeck on Apr 24, 2006 at 12:10 AM
Post by: dench on Apr 24, 2006 at 09:09 AM
sa B&W katabi ng sights and sounds sa Shangrila, I was also to audition the Denon 1906. Puro Denon doon.
HTH :)
Post by: Bravesfan on Apr 24, 2006 at 06:17 PM
Post by: AVetc on Apr 26, 2006 at 12:40 PM
Tanong lang po..anong mas prepared mong surround yong WH2 o yong 9dfs.
I'm using D8.3 as front and center; for my 1906. ok lang ba itong combination ko?
I'm planning to buy 9dfs or WH2 to complete my set up.
thanks po,
AVetc
Post by: lakambini on May 31, 2006 at 04:44 PM
How's the combination of 1906 and the wharfs especially on stereo? I am keen on possessing the same set-up as yours. So far what are the pros/cons of this set-up? How much is the 1906? Thanks1
Post by: sanction214 on May 31, 2006 at 11:15 PM
Post by: knefut on Jun 01, 2006 at 10:44 AM
1905 or 1906 cost 20k cash here in cebu...
mura yang 1906 sa inyo bay.
last time i asked, 27k ang 1906 dito.
Post by: sanction214 on Jun 02, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Post by: jeckjeck on Jun 02, 2006 at 10:20 PM
Get the 1906.. sulit! Of course bias ako ;D ;D
Get it from SGT The Home Theater... cheaper than other shops for this model... ;)
Post by: lakambini on Jun 06, 2006 at 03:28 PM
Post by: lakambini on Jun 06, 2006 at 03:33 PM
magkano 2805, 2106 at 1906 jan sa cebu? pwede ba jan bili? And MA-MAHAL kasi d2 Manila!
Post by: sanction214 on Jun 07, 2006 at 09:00 AM
sanction214,
magkano 2805, 2106 at 1906 jan sa cebu? pwede ba jan bili? And MA-MAHAL kasi d2 Manila!
your request is noted bro...i will just send you the name of the store (in SM City Cebu) which offers the best price and ikaw na bahala makipag set-up with their store reps...i think they have sister companies there in manila...but i'm not sure...
i've checked the 1906 its priced at 20plus but they would give cash discounts...its 20k for cash...that was a a few weeks or a month ago...i'm saving for it just in case i don't change my mind...i really like the features(auto-set up)..
Post by: lakambini on Jun 14, 2006 at 11:25 AM
As of last week price of denon 1906 is 30k!?! ) Audioworld and Shangrila
Better look for more affordable receiver!
Post by: jeckjeck on Jun 14, 2006 at 09:40 PM
Post by: ricky on Jun 15, 2006 at 12:17 AM
Post by: lakambini on Jun 15, 2006 at 11:06 AM
Thanks for your reply, regarding sa 3803 sa buy and sell, hindi ba magkalayo price range ng 3803 and 1906? I will also try to pm sonny of home theater. Thanks for your help!
My current set-up is in 5.1. Have an Onkyo 494, sony ns300 and diamond 8 speakers. The 494 seems to be not bringing out the best of my speakers. Am keen on looking for a receiver with more power punch. What can you recomend? Preferably denon 1706 and marantz 5600? OK ba sila? Am more into music than ht.
Ano set-up nyo? Pa-post naman sound ng equipment nyo, tnx again guys!
Post by: jeckjeck on Jun 15, 2006 at 01:08 PM
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 15, 2006 at 01:18 PM
jeckjeck and ricky,
Thanks for your reply, regarding sa 3803 sa buy and sell, hindi ba magkalayo price range ng 3803 and 1906? I will also try to pm sonny of home theater. Thanks for your help!
My current set-up is in 5.1. Have an Onkyo 494, sony ns300 and diamond 8 speakers. The 494 seems to be not bringing out the best of my speakers. Am keen on looking for a receiver with more power punch. What can you recomend? Preferably denon 1706 and marantz 5600? OK ba sila? Am more into music than ht.
Ano set-up nyo? Pa-post naman sound ng equipment nyo, tnx again guys!
If your receiver has pre-outs, you can use a more beefy external multichannel power amp, or an external stereo power amp to power the front stereo channel.
Post by: sanction214 on Jun 15, 2006 at 09:47 PM
sanction214,
magkano 2805, 2106 at 1906 jan sa cebu? pwede ba jan bili? And MA-MAHAL kasi d2 Manila!
bai, the 2805 here in cebu is 55k reg. price...but could go less daw sila if cash) 45k...(sale price to..last day ngayon)2106...no stock (from the store i asked) i think it was soundroom...1906...yun nga, 20k..all for cash..0 interest for 6mos...on all major credit cards...(parang nag advertise nako nito ah)..just found out na di pla babagay sa jbl ko ang 1906 kasi its rated at 135 watts per channel...the speaker manufacturer says "maximun recommended amp is 100W!"
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 16, 2006 at 11:47 AM
just found out na di pla babagay sa jbl ko ang 1906 kasi its rated at 135 watts per channel...the speaker manufacturer says "maximun recommended amp is 100W!"
Only when you listen at full volume. My Acurus amp is rated at 250watts per channel, and it is driving MS914 speakers rated only at 150 watts max. Depending on the sensitivity of your speakers, typical comfortable room listening only requires less than 10 watts per channel continuous and peaking at twice that. Quite loud already for a 90db sensitive speakers in a 16sqm room.
Post by: bote on Jun 18, 2006 at 09:15 PM
Post by: john5479 on Jun 18, 2006 at 10:09 PM
Post by: lakambini on Jun 19, 2006 at 11:02 AM
thanks, may cell no. ka ba store sa cebu? The 2805 is cheaper in MANILA, however, i'm more interested in the 1906 and the 0% interest, kasi charge ko para hindi halata commander!?!
john5479,
where did you bought the 2106? ano previous receiver mo? good luck on your new investment, hope to hear from you soon regarding its sound. Ano speakers mo?
Post by: AVetc on Jun 20, 2006 at 03:54 PM
Has anyone tried using Karaoke player ( Hyundai, Platinum, Karavision ) connected to Dennon AVR?
How does it work..? sound quality ..? speaker safety..and etc...need inputs po. ??? ;D ;D
Thanks..
Post by: Platinum on Jun 20, 2006 at 04:26 PM
I already tried Magicsing Ver2006 on my Denon AVR-B&W 603. My voice sounds better than the actual (!?) ;D
Parang "pro" when Denon-amplified. Just me. I'm planning to buy a Karavision next month.
Post by: AVetc on Jun 21, 2006 at 07:42 AM
Thanks fo the input..i'll wait until your next update having your karavision tested
on your Dennon..baka boses na ng "pro" maging output nya.. ;) :)
AVetc.
Post by: Dracula on Jun 21, 2006 at 10:37 AM
Post by: Le_Stat on Jun 23, 2006 at 03:44 AM
Im just new to this so I want your opinions. Is this receiver good for the price? Or should I consider HK Instead? Should I settle for other speakers? My budget for speakers is 20k. Should I settle for 2nd hand of speakers in the buy n sell section? For that budget of 20k for speakers, what would you recommend? You can recommend either floor stander or bookshelf. As of now im gonna place this in a 2.5 meter x 3.5 meter room. Dont worry because im going to be transfering houses in about 2 years so no need to worry If you recommend floorstanders for the size of my room now.
Sa mga nababasa ko kasi mas madaming naka Monitor Audio kesa sa Paradigm. How about Wharf 9 floorstanders ? Mas ok ba Wharf kesa sa Paradigm for Denon's ?
Sorry for all the questions kasi I want to make sure that I have all the info before I take the plunge in getting Denon.
Im going to use this for 50% Audio and 50% HT.
Post by: Jairus on Jun 23, 2006 at 08:54 AM
Ive just auditioned the Denon 2105 at Sights and Sounds at Shangrilla. They sell this for 27,500. They have paired this up with a Paradigm Titan which is priced at 13k per pair. The sounds is good for me since swabe nga sa pandinig. The bass of the fronts of these bookshelves alone are great to hear, considering they are just bookshelves.
Im just new to this so I want your opinions. Is this receiver good for the price? Or should I consider HK Instead? Should I settle for other speakers? My budget for speakers is 20k. Should I settle for 2nd hand of speakers in the buy n sell section? For that budget of 20k for speakers, what would you recommend? You can recommend either floor stander or bookshelf. As of now im gonna place this in a 2.5 meter x 3.5 meter room. Dont worry because im going to be transfering houses in about 2 years so no need to worry If you recommend floorstanders for the size of my room now.
Sa mga nababasa ko kasi mas madaming naka Monitor Audio kesa sa Paradigm. How about Wharf 9 floorstanders ? Mas ok ba Wharf kesa sa Paradigm for Denon's ?
Sorry for all the questions kasi I want to make sure that I have all the info before I take the plunge in getting Denon.
Im going to use this for 50% Audio and 50% HT.
Try listening to other combinations be fore you decide. Go to Architectural Audio to audition HK with MA or Dali or AE and skip to Spectra in Park Square if you want to hear the HK with Wharfedales. There is also a Sights and Sounds in Park Square and I think they also carry wharfedales there. Then let your ears decide. ;)
Post by: chiemonyo on Jun 23, 2006 at 02:45 PM
I Have a DENON 1604 and decided to replace my 150 active Subwoofer for HT dahil medyo bitin sa LFE ang setup (or ang pandinig ko lang ;D). I connected Konzert 500Watts Stereo Amp directly from the LFE pre-out of 1604 to power-up a custom made 12" 350 watts sub-woofer (walang XO in between). I was so fascinated coz the built-in XO of Denon AVR works great. Walang kabutas butas yung 200hz - 20hz sweep test sa AVIA DVD. Well, I know that built in XO should work that way. Pero hindi ko lang siguro inaasahan na ganun ka accurate kasi most of active subwoofers have their own XO to be adjusted to match the AVRs dba.. wheeewww.. buti na lang at na try ko to at d ako napagastos sa bagong mamahaling sub ;D ;D ;D Just me.. and my .02 :)
Post by: av_phile1 on Jun 23, 2006 at 05:22 PM
Post by: Le_Stat on Jun 24, 2006 at 01:27 AM
Post by: chiemonyo on Jun 28, 2006 at 03:25 AM
You're essentially using a passive sub driven by your Konzert power amp and XO'd by your receiver's LFE out. That's as straightforward a bi-amping as it gets.
Do you have any thoughts or advice for this Sir AV? meron ba tong downsides? Tnx po
Post by: Dracula on Jul 19, 2006 at 07:40 PM
Anybody have the February Issue of What Hifi sound and vision magazine? Can I borrow it just need to read the review for the Denon 1706....thanks
Post by: lynds on Jul 26, 2006 at 01:29 AM
Post by: Munskie on Jul 28, 2006 at 05:39 PM
http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/DenonAVR2307newreceivers.php
Post by: CEOfbdc on Aug 06, 2006 at 01:43 PM
Post by: deo on Aug 08, 2006 at 03:58 PM
magandang araw mga audiophiles... medyo sikat ata ang denon sa pinoydvd forum.. maganda ba talaga sound quality nya as compared sa ibang receivers like marantz, yamaha and pioneer? nag cacanvas kasi ako for my HT project.. pang bedroom lang.. maarte kasi hearing ko gusto ko quality sound talaga.. pero i need a medyo mura na receiver.. na start ko na bumili speakers. gale 3030 floorstanding cya and bibilhin ko next week yung gale 3060B pang sorround.. maganda kasi sound nya nung kinabit nung nag demo sakin sa marantz sr 5600.. sa ngaun naka kabit ung speakers ko sa amplifier ganda rin sound pero medyo bitin lang kasi hindi cya sorround.. 2 channels lang kasi.. plan ko bilhin marantz 4600 18k lang kasi dito sa magic appliance center.. mas mura kaya sa manila? anu paba mga brand and model na pwede ko consider and san me pwede mag punta na stores para maraming choices kasi kung dito sa province hindi uso ang mga HT.. wala masyado nagbebenta... budget ko for the receiver less than 20k basta gud sound quality... and anu features na meron cya pag ganun lang budget ko
Ung SR-4500 ko wlang problema, ganda sya sa HT and Audio. Although di ko pa naririnig ang Denon, inisip ko dati dapat nag denon 1905 or 2005 na lang ako...i audition mo nalang sir.
Post by: deo on Aug 08, 2006 at 03:59 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 08, 2006 at 04:07 PM
SRP ng denon 3805? ???
Wow, ang Lufet ng balak ni Deo! Alam ko nasa 55k yan. Mag Rotel power amp ka na lang. ;)
Post by: Munskie on Aug 08, 2006 at 09:22 PM
Post by: lyndon on Aug 08, 2006 at 10:52 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 09, 2006 at 12:32 PM
Post by: deo on Aug 09, 2006 at 03:57 PM
Wow, ang Lufet ng balak ni Deo! Alam ko nasa 55k yan. Mag Rotel power amp ka na lang. ;)
In my dreams! hehehe! So, mas ok ba mag dagdag ng rotel power amp kesa mag upgrade ng Receiver? ???
Post by: deo on Aug 09, 2006 at 03:59 PM
i have already denon3806. ndi ko pa rin natetest. gift lang ng isang friend ko sa US. anyone interested to buy it? just PM me. 93K less 20K
Ang bait naman ng friend na yan...Pwede bang pakilala mo ko sa friend mo? ;D peace! y sell? post mo muna sa HT gallery!!!! ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 09, 2006 at 04:11 PM
In my dreams! hehehe! So, mas ok ba mag dagdag ng rotel power amp kesa mag upgrade ng Receiver? ???
Sa case ko... OO. Pero di ko sure sa iba, depende rin kung mag match. Minsan iba kasi pre amp section. Pero marami sa net gumagamit ng Denon + Rotel.
Post by: deo on Aug 09, 2006 at 04:24 PM
Post by: classicman on Aug 09, 2006 at 06:59 PM
Si myki diba rotel 1075 + marantz sr5500 dati? hmm,..teka, tama na ang day dreaming ko :-[ hehehe!!!
go for it deo, kayang kaya mo yan......... 8)
Post by: deo on Aug 11, 2006 at 10:24 AM
go for it deo, kayang kaya mo yan......... 8)
Napatawa moko sir classicman! ;D Thanks for the encouragement. hehehehe! Libre naman mangarap eh. Tinitignan ko pa lang ang setup nyo, solve nako :'( ->tears of joy!
Siguro mga bandang 2030, by then naka all white shirt,pants and shoes nako..ung tipong chinese na wla nang magawa sa pera...ano na kaya itsura ng mga speakers nun? ???
Post by: mj23 on Aug 11, 2006 at 11:06 AM
Bagay ba Denon sa Mission speakers?
Thanks!
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 12, 2006 at 10:16 AM
Mga Sir,
Bagay ba Denon sa Mission speakers?
Thanks!
Bagay na bagay bro..... Match yan.... as I've remembered, Mission speakers dati ang pang test ng Denon sa kanilang mga produkto...ewan ko na lang ngayon dahil iba na ang may-ari ng Missions....
yung mga Mini Hi-FI nga dati ng Denon eh Mission ang gumagawa ng speakers eh..... yung ibang model pa eh nakalagay pa sa likod nung speakers yung pangalan ng Mission
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 14, 2006 at 11:04 AM
Post by: lyndon on Aug 14, 2006 at 06:15 PM
Monitor Audio silver series
note: eto po ung luma may bago na kng lumabas.... any reviews???
thank you!
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 15, 2006 at 05:24 PM
Post by: lakambini on Aug 18, 2006 at 10:19 AM
magkano kuha kay sonny ng 1706?
Post by: chicky_pidgey on Aug 18, 2006 at 10:53 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 19, 2006 at 07:29 AM
nerveblocker,
magkano kuha kay sonny ng 1706?
Sir,
sent you pm.
Post by: lyndon on Aug 22, 2006 at 09:16 PM
Post by: JT on Aug 23, 2006 at 11:35 AM
Post by: Superman on Aug 23, 2006 at 11:42 AM
Post by: JT on Aug 23, 2006 at 11:59 AM
pwede na, JT...pero try mo pa rin tawaran...thanks! :D
Thanks. Tomorrow ko test yung unit. Parang gusto naman i try ang denon pang-palit sa yammy rx-v450 ko.
Try ko kung oks sya with mission speaker.
Post by: lakambini on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:49 AM
steal iyang deal na iyan, for 16k at denon 1906 pa na last year model lang. aside from that maganda ang naging review niyan from the international press including what hi-fi? and hi-fi choice.
pray din nga ako na sana mayroon pang ganyan!
ano speaker partner mo with the 1906?
happy listening! ;)
Post by: JT on Aug 24, 2006 at 11:09 AM
jt,
steal iyang deal na iyan, for 16k at denon 1906 pa na last year model lang. aside from that maganda ang naging review niyan from the international press including what hi-fi? and hi-fi choice.
pray din nga ako na sana mayroon pang ganyan!
ano speaker partner mo with the 1906?
happy listening! ;)
Yup, check ko nga mamya eh. 6mos old pa lang so may warranty pa.
Partner ko sa Mission Cinema m70 set + Yamaha YST-SW320. After this, balak kong palitan naman yung sub, para ma-iba naman.
Post by: ricky on Aug 24, 2006 at 11:12 AM
sir matzter, ricky, munskie ask ko lang po kung anong model ng B&W ang ok sa denon avr? ano po marerecomend nila? ok po ba 604+602+lcr? sir patulong po kung anong magandang set up for my HT... tnx po.
Malaya sorry for the late reply ha,yung B&W-DENON combo ok din na pair as what we heard sa set-up ni marvin, although if you want to use 604 as fronts baka hindi masyado lumabas yung details(hard to drive yung B&W) ??? Marvin is using just the 603 and ang lakas na masyado for his roomsize and recently he added an external power amp to improve the details pa ;) Maybe you can just get the 603-lcr600-600 and the money you'll be saving from this set-up you can use to buy an external power amp ;) .Si matt naman is using the MISSIONS which i feel is easier to drive and very nice sounding for a reasonably priced speakers(comparing to b&ws)halos pareho na din ang effect(based sa ears ko ha ;)) If im not mistaken you have both denon and harman di ba? Check mo din harman-mission set-up kasi for the cost ,hard to beat sya ;) and again the money you saved you can use to buy a power amp ;) ;) But you could always try auditioning INFINITY-JBL speakers(which i love ;))for either your denon or harman kasi dati yan ang naka pair sa both AVRs na yan ;) ;D medyo mahal din nga lang almost B&W price na din yung high models :(So in short basta may power amp ka kahit B&W ma decide mo ok na ok pa din ;D
Post by: lyndon on Aug 24, 2006 at 10:15 PM
Post by: ricky on Aug 25, 2006 at 12:23 AM
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Post by: lyndon on Aug 25, 2006 at 01:06 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 10:37 AM
sir matzter, ricky, munskie ask ko lang po kung anong model ng B&W ang ok sa denon avr? ano po marerecomend nila? ok po ba 604+602+lcr? sir patulong po kung anong magandang set up for my HT... tnx po.
Sorry for the late reply. Ngayon ko lang nabasa. I read somewhere that you have a HK630 and a Denon AVR.
My suggestion is, get the Infinity Beta HCS 5.1 speaker system for your HK630, since mas luma na yung AVR, you can put this setup sa bedroom or secondary setup mo. Nakakagulat kasi sound ng Beta, small bookshelf speakers lang but when combined with HK 630 (when it was demoed to me), they sound like floorstanders! Ang laki tumunog. MURA pa. mga 35+k may 8" sub pang kasama.
(http://www.audiovision-shop.de/Preise/Produktinfo/Infinity/Audio/Beta/beta_hcs_beech.jpg)
For your Denons, B&W or Missions are OK. I have heard B&W w/ Denon and ok naman. And sabi ni munskie, he tried Missions with his Denon 3805 amp, ok din naman daw. For me, prefer lang ng personal listening taste, aesthetic taste and budget taste :D yung missions.
Maganda rin yung JBL speakers ni ricky, makalansing. Sayang phase out na.
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 10:45 AM
sir tnx po sa advice. nakita ko na ung jbl na cnasabi mo srp nya 76K??? ung napakingan ko lang ung aelite series ng AE kaso gawa na sya sa malaysia... dami nagsasabi ok daw mission pero ndi ko kabisado mga models ng maganda for HT and naririnig ko ala na daw importation at service center ng mission dto sa pinas.
I havent heard the AE, but as of what I read in other threads, AE is more laid back, preferable for music.
Wala nang importation at service? I dont think thats true. Maybe its a competing AV shop that told you that to discourage you to buy. Mission has been bought by a big company that owns wharfedale. They stopped operations for a time since they were transferring their manufacturing facilties to China. BUT that is for the entry level series. Their mid level, U.K. made series are still there with no problems. The new website is up and running.
Since you are using a whopping amp. Syempre go for the UK made Missions. The M5's are good for music and HT, while the Volare (now M6 series according the the new website) series are good for music (laid back, like AE)
Post by: ricky on Aug 25, 2006 at 10:58 AM
Post by: Munskie on Aug 25, 2006 at 10:59 AM
For your Denons, B&W or Missions are OK. I have heard B&W w/ Denon and ok naman. And sabi ni munskie, he tried Missions with his Denon 3805 amp, ok din naman daw. For me, prefer lang ng personal listening taste, aesthetic taste and budget taste :D yung missions.
Yeah, kung di cguro ako nag ambisyon nung time na nag-upgrade ako, all I could have upgraded is my receiver and the sub. My mission 77 series came alive when I powered them with the Denon 3805. My Onkyo receiver I use for the missions is only rated at 70wpc while 3805 is 120wpc (but we all know thats far from actual results). That diffrence in power greatly enhanced the Missions performance. But again, I have no regrets getting the B&Ws....they're great performing too, lalo na kung powered by external amps. Follow matts advice in selection criteria....aesthetic, budget, and judgment sa audition... ;D ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 25, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Yeah, kung di cguro ako nag ambisyon nung time na nag-upgrade ako, all I could have upgraded is my receiver and the sub. My mission 77 series came alive when I powered them with the Denon 3805. My Onkyo receiver I use for the missions is only rated at 70wpc while 3805 is 120wpc (but we all know thats far from actual results). That diffrence in power greatly enhanced the Missions performance. But again, I have no regrets getting the B&Ws....they're great performing too, lalo na kung powered by external amps. Follow matts advice in selection criteria....aesthetic, budget, and judgment sa audition... ;D ;D
Sayang, dapat pala naka all mission plus Rotel separates ka na pala ngayon. ;D >:D
Oh well, no use dwelling on the past. hehe peace...
Post by: JT on Aug 25, 2006 at 02:32 PM
pwede na, JT...pero try mo pa rin tawaran...thanks! :D
Bro,
Got the 1906 yesterday and yep its like bnew condition. Even smells like one... hehehe. BTW. I might change my Marantz SR4500 also, baka interesado ka? Almost 1yr yun pero like bnew din.
Post by: Superman on Aug 25, 2006 at 03:04 PM
Bro,
Got the 1906 yesterday and yep its like bnew condition. Even smells like one... hehehe. BTW. I might change my Marantz SR4500 also, baka interesado ka? Almost 1yr yun pero like bnew din.
congrats JT! PM mo na lang sa akin, bro...thanks ha!
Post by: chicky_pidgey on Aug 26, 2006 at 12:42 AM
Post by: lyndon on Aug 29, 2006 at 05:44 PM
mga bosing ask ko lang kung magkano dapat budget ko if paradigm iseset up for my HT??? ok ba review nito compare to monitor audio silver series? ipair ko sya sana with my denon. tnx po ulit.
Post by: Munskie on Aug 29, 2006 at 07:43 PM
sir munskie, ricky & matzter.... available na raw denon dvd 2930cl sa states... may friend ako nagwowork sa best buys but my problem alang maguuwi dto sa pinas... baka may kilala kayo uuwi frm washington next month....bro, if u have the dough to go for that denon player, I suggest mag Toshiba HD DVD ka na lang. that 2930CI is $849 sa denon website, whereas the HD DVD player is $499. naka HD DVD kana and its a very good upsampling dvd player too (backward compatible sya). It has very good reviews as a upsampling dvd player. One reviewer even saying its the best upsampling dvd player he used. They are selling the Toshiba HD-A1 here at 35K... :) :)
Post by: lyndon on Aug 30, 2006 at 02:42 PM
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Post by: 5Speed on Aug 31, 2006 at 03:09 PM
Again, it has a good reviews in it.... I've seen it already in AV shops but still havent heard how it performs... 8)
Post by: alexg on Nov 01, 2006 at 11:40 PM
Anybody have similar setup?
How about Dali Concept Series and Denon AVRs?
Thanks.
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Post by: et414 on Nov 03, 2006 at 05:16 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 16, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Give feedback on your newly purchased denon avr-1707!
Post by: JT on Nov 17, 2006 at 12:00 PM
Im very much recommending the 1507. It has the movie-sound quality of yammy 440 and the musical fidelity of marantz sr4400 when combined with Mission speakers. Apart from being 7.1, meron pang auto-calibrate at an entry-level price.
Post by: bugoy-bugoy on Nov 18, 2006 at 08:38 AM
Post by: blackie on Nov 21, 2006 at 02:19 PM
Yebah!
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 23, 2006 at 08:32 PM
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 24, 2006 at 02:07 PM
Post by: lakambini on Nov 24, 2006 at 03:34 PM
Post by: aligonzales on Dec 02, 2006 at 04:34 PM
malaki ba discount? may friend ako naghahanap e :)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=59981.0 ;D
Post by: tambutsoo on Dec 13, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Post by: lmerb on Dec 14, 2006 at 02:53 PM
Post by: 5Speed on Dec 15, 2006 at 03:52 PM
ano po ma recommend good speakers for 3806? tnx
nakows...... Denon 3806, ang daming speakers na pwede dyan....... mid level AVR na yan...
try a B&W, Missions, Mordaunt Short, JMLab, Kef,Aurus Cantum, Dali, Usher, Wharfs, Jamo, Tannoy etc.....
at kung nagtitipid ka eh pwede rin ang Daichi na Euros or yung Konzert o kaya eh BMB speakers sa raon...herherherherher
For your 3806, dami mong option, di mapili ng speakers ang Denon.... lets your ears and wallet na lang ang magdecide kung ano talaga ang gusto or kaya mong bilihin.... ;)
sana meron din ako nyan......ganda na yan for music... (gusto nung tenga ko ang tunog ng Denon/Marantz eh.... tsaka yan lang (yung lower models, not the 3806 and above) ang kaya kong ma-afford dun sa mga wish list ko na gears....herherhereher)
Post by: tambutsoo on Dec 15, 2006 at 05:40 PM
Post by: 5Speed on Dec 15, 2006 at 05:55 PM
tnx pare.
no prolemo pare....
mine was paired with Mission set of speakers....(see my setup at HT Gallery under my nickname)
We also tried B&W 6 series, Klipsch RB series and a Kef Q series with my Denon at bagay din.....depende talaga kung anong characteristics na tunog ang hanap mo......heck I even tried the speakers of my onkyo mini hifi at my room to the Denon, at ayush din......
Post by: alexg on Dec 16, 2006 at 07:02 AM
ano po ma recommend good speakers for 3806? tnx
Am using the Wharfedale Pacific Evo on my Denon, Evo 10 for front, Evo Center and Evo 8 for rears. Using this for both HT and audio, great sound.
You might also want to audition the Aurum Cantus from Audio Amplified.
Post by: MILK on Dec 18, 2006 at 01:45 PM
Post by: dannielsimone on Dec 29, 2006 at 11:57 PM
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am pretty tired as it has been a long long day but wanted to keep you updated in "real time".
As you know I am no Audiophile and would be hard pressed to find the vocabulary to compare the products I am demoing so please put up with my novice approach.
Firstly.....a few hic ups today. Not enough speaker wire in the truck. They were to bring a spool but they only brought 20 meters when needing 25-30 . ...oh well.....
Bought some speaker brackets from perfect vision which would have been great....but the back of the atoms/titans are a polymer type resin not wood so to drill a hole was not recommended. The ADP 370 surround dipole was also of the same polymer substance on the back so again could not drill( and the bracket that the 370 comes with is not adjustable ...having said that... Never should have bought brackets in the first place as Paradigm provides a swivel bracket mount upon request for both the atom and the titan..DUH! So no worries here. Must order them. Unfortunatley for me the Paradigm supplier is closed till Jan 2 or 3
Unwrap the Onkyo and the black one I ordered turned silver ....no biggy the demo will go on!!!!
Set up the speakers with the Atom as surrounds. The titan is just a bit too big as I feared with my limited head room and space.
Unwrapped the Denon receiver and thought it looked great. Powered it up and the sound was real clean with the few CD's I played.. At 110 watts per channel I thought this baby was about to blow me out of the water but must say....it did not. ( These are CD's that I and family had listened to many a time for many a year.). System sounded real good though. Went on to some movie clips to see how the surrounds would work and they did the trick. Speakers and receiver seemed to go pretty well with each other. Played a live Rock concert on DVD which is crystal clear in respect to quality. Like the 90 watt Denon I auditioned in the paradigm shop I slowly cranked it up to full volume. Was really surprised when the volume indicator stopped moving. I was looking for the additional 10 watts you had recommended to me before). Must also say that on the highest volume the speakers seemed to break up...got muddy...and I was huffing and puffing with what I hoped was Adrenalin. Unfortunately the Adrenalin was really ....well......dissapointment. My son looked at me and said....that didn't sound to good there dad. Asked myself Why were the monitor 7's whimpering out?
Decided to give the Onkyo a try. As soon as I put on the same DVD at low levels I noticed a major difference in the body and tone of the music. Raised the volume higher and higher and as I did the smile on my face got bigger and bigger. Cranked up the music to about 90% which was louder than the Denon at full volume and had no break up or muddy sound. Clear as a bell it was. Cranked up the volume to full and it sounded real good.....no distortion at all. Tossed on the "red hot Chili peppers live at Slain Castle and it was killer. Wife and kids came right out and said the Onkyo was better for them. In my opinuion it was also better for me...big time! Very different than the Denon...much more Alive and open....and more powerful to boot. Proceeded to listen to the same CD's as before of Usher (to test the sub) some rock, and even some pop (Madonna for the wife) and it was all kick Asssss take no prisoners.
Am happy with the Paradigm speakers and am pleased with the Onkyo. The combo to "my ears" seems to be the "REAL DEAL"!
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 30, 2006 at 07:53 AM
Post by: YrNeH on Jan 03, 2007 at 10:43 PM
thanks :)
Post by: danger_ahead123 on Mar 16, 2007 at 02:36 PM
1set jbl 6.1 system scs188
http://www.lumarc.pl/jbl-scs-188-p-716.html
paki indicate n din kung magkanu at san po pwd bilhin
tnx
Post by: aligonzales on Mar 29, 2007 at 10:13 AM
mga sir question anu pong denon avr pwd dto sa speaker ko
1set jbl 6.1 system scs188
http://www.lumarc.pl/jbl-scs-188-p-716.html
paki indicate n din kung magkanu at san po pwd bilhin
tnx
Harman Kardon and Denon Receivers are great to pair with your speakers. Visit Architectural Audio in Greenbelt 1. They have wide range of receivers I mentioned. From entry level to high end.
Post by: Weng! on Jun 15, 2007 at 09:18 AM
pwede na kaya ang denon 1907 (on sale ngayon) sa wharfe evo30, center, evo10 & evo8 speakers ko? 7.x lang muna plano ko at idagdag ko nalang ang .1 pag may pera na. the 1907 power ratings are all in 8 ohms. can this avr capable of powering all 7 speakers at 6 ohm at the same time without any heating/shutdown issues? pardon me if this has been answered before. i'll do my homework by reading back the pages.
thanks
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 15, 2007 at 03:14 PM
In my 2007 Denon Catalog, it says that the 1 series uses one xxx chip, the 2800 series to 4000 series uses one xxx chip but high grade. the higher flagship models uses 2-4 high grade chips. Almost the same goes for Yamaha, Onkyo, Harman, etc.
Wharf Evo are mid level speakers. IMO, wouldnt it be best to match it w/ its fellow mid level receiver? to make it shine & maximize its potential? ;)
For me, I would consider using mid level receivers & entry level speakers, but mid level speakers & entry level AVR? I really dont think so.... its such a waste :D
Just my 2 cents.
Post by: Weng! on Jun 16, 2007 at 01:39 AM
would the 2307 (the next model after 1907) match na kaya? hintayin ko muna at baka idag-dag nila to sa denon sale ;D
Post by: acm2005 on Jul 06, 2007 at 01:08 PM
Post by: threadlock on Jul 06, 2007 at 03:33 PM
LOTTEWORLD AUDIO VIDEO SYSTEMS, INC
Link: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=67364.0
Post by: acm2005 on Jul 12, 2007 at 07:53 AM
i would to discuss sana sa kanya all about denon.
Post by: threadlock on Jul 18, 2007 at 06:45 PM
Ano kayang budget speaker ang match sa Denon 1507?
My Current setup:
Fronts - DTX SB 620 (Klipsch SB-2 equivalent)
Center - Wharfedale 9CM
Surround - Old Sony bookshelf
Sub - DTX 4.15 from groupbuy thread
I have read that BnW or Missions are good for Denons but they are way out of my budget since entry level setup lang naman ito.
Any recommendations?
TIA
Post by: sanction214 on Jul 18, 2007 at 07:39 PM
here it goes...i've shifted all the posibilities on which DSP the 1705 has in playing DVD movies...DSP>Mono>Rock>Jazz>Video Game>Matrix...still i dont like the feel of the sound...i tried pressing "Standard" on the remote and the LCD Display says> Dolby Digital, then on... i kinda like the surround effect...and LFE's although i was really puzzled as to why the movie dialogue reproduced in the center speaker is kinda stifled sounding or cannot be voiced out...parang sinasakal kumbaga and nagsasalita..errr. help anyone... ???
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 19, 2007 at 10:36 AM
i was wondering if somebody here could help me out how to figure out the Denon 1705 and paired with JBL scs type speakers...kinda rough on the edges with HT..still getting to know...
here it goes...i've shifted all the posibilities on which DSP the 1705 has in playing DVD movies...DSP>Mono>Rock>Jazz>Video Game>Matrix...still i dont like the feel of the sound...i tried pressing "Standard" on the remote and the LCD Display says> Dolby Digital, then on... i kinda like the surround effect...and LFE's although i was really puzzled as to why the movie dialogue reproduced in the center speaker is kinda stifled sounding or cannot be voiced out...parang sinasakal kumbaga and nagsasalita..errr. help anyone... ???
I have a similar setup in my bedroom Denon 1705 & JBL SCS. All you have to do is to calibrate the center speaker louder than the rest. I had a similar experience w/ you after calibrating the setup, the center was too weak so I had to crank up the center channel to around +8, I think. I do not use the DSP's though.
Post by: sanction214 on Jul 19, 2007 at 08:03 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 20, 2007 at 09:52 AM
Post by: aligonzales on Jul 23, 2007 at 03:43 PM
gee thanks sir! i will check sa system set-up and crank up the volume for the center...do i have to change the D.Comp to HIGH?
I suggest you use an SPL meter for calibration. Ideally, the output level for all speakers should be the same using a test tone. Better if you have calibration discs such as Digital Video Essentials. From my experience, Dolby Digital and DTS settings have slight difference in output. You will be surprised with how it sounds when its properly calibrated. Welcome to the world of HT! ;D For temporary solution, (mano mano... ) try playing test tones and listen to the output level of each speaker. Using your ears, make sure volume level is the same for each speaker. Adjust if necessary.
As for the D.COMP setting, this applies only for discs with Dolby Digital soundtracks. D.COMP is designed for night viewing. It reduces the loud sound effects and focuses on the vocals para hindi masyado nakakaistorbo sa kapitbahay when you watch movies like star wars, saving private ryan and the like. For normal viewing, turn D.COMP off. It really depends on how you want to experience movies on your Home Theater.
Post by: sanction214 on Jul 24, 2007 at 01:49 PM
I suggest you use an SPL meter for calibration. Ideally, the output level for all speakers should be the same using a test tone. Better if you have calibration discs such as Digital Video Essentials. From my experience, Dolby Digital and DTS settings have slight difference in output. You will be surprised with how it sounds when its properly calibrated. Welcome to the world of HT! ;D For temporary solution, (mano mano... ) try playing test tones and listen to the output level of each speaker. Using your ears, make sure volume level is the same for each speaker. Adjust if necessary.
As for the D.COMP setting, this applies only for discs with Dolby Digital soundtracks. D.COMP is designed for night viewing. It reduces the loud sound effects and focuses on the vocals para hindi masyado nakakaistorbo sa kapitbahay when you watch movies like star wars, saving private ryan and the like. For normal viewing, turn D.COMP off. It really depends on how you want to experience movies on your Home Theater.
i've tried sir matzer's info...i seem to get lost where to look for where to calibrate the +8..instead i cranked the center speaker by adjusting thru the distance like 4.0mm to 7.0mm hehe..still bitin..i will try again sa test tones...thanks sa info about D.Comp..huuu..complicado pala kapag nag upgrade ng bagong AV receiver...(i think an AVR and setting up an HT is one of the most elaborate and complex idea ever conceived by man! which i have no reason to suspect otherwise...i've heard a B&W set-up...parang gusto ko na ring bumili ng bagong speakers...ano ba to!)tamad pa naman akong magbasa ng manual...although i appreciate the help i'm getting here...
Post by: sanction214 on Jul 31, 2007 at 05:10 PM
Post by: ert on Aug 03, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Post by: blackie on Aug 12, 2007 at 08:50 AM
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 20, 2007 at 11:06 PM
gee thanks sir! i will check sa system set-up and crank up the volume for the center...do i have to change the D.Comp to HIGH?
Check > audioreview.com for denon users reviews. I found some interesting problems and settings which helped me when I was setting-up my Denon AVR2802. Denon's center channel is quite weak so you have to adjust the vol. as Sir MatZTER adviced.
Post by: dyerds on Aug 22, 2007 at 08:51 PM
mga denon gurus,
pwede na kaya ang denon 1907 (on sale ngayon) sa wharfe evo30, center, evo10 & evo8 speakers ko? 7.x lang muna plano ko at idagdag ko nalang ang .1 pag may pera na. the 1907 power ratings are all in 8 ohms. can this avr capable of powering all 7 speakers at 6 ohm at the same time without any heating/shutdown issues? pardon me if this has been answered before. i'll do my homework by reading back the pages.
thanks
San po ba nyo nakita na sale to? Magkano po ba? I'm planning to pair it with my entry level Wharf 9.5.
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 22, 2007 at 09:18 PM
mga denon gurus,
pwede na kaya ang denon 1907 (on sale ngayon) sa wharfe evo30, center, evo10 & evo8 speakers ko? 7.x lang muna plano ko at idagdag ko nalang ang .1 pag may pera na. the 1907 power ratings are all in 8 ohms. can this avr capable of powering all 7 speakers at 6 ohm at the same time without any heating/shutdown issues? pardon me if this has been answered before. i'll do my homework by reading back the pages.
thanks
Denon's nominal impedance is 6 ohms. don't connect another set of speakers on A & B posts if it has. It can now serve for HT purpose, Be careful not to drive very hard, if you set the fronts to Large w/o sub. :o
Post by: Weng! on Aug 23, 2007 at 04:20 AM
Denon's nominal impedance is 6 ohms. don't connect another set of speakers on A & B posts if it has. It can now serve for HT purpose, Be careful not to drive very hard, if you set the fronts to Large w/o sub. :o
thanks audiojunkie. meron na akong dtx from the groupbuy. kaso lang wala pa rin receiver, hintay o hanap pa ng kakayanin sa bulsa.
dyerds,
may sale noon sa lotteworld thread sa b&s section. kasali din sa sale ang mga dealers nila. entry level receivers lang ang naka sale. check with the shops if the sale is still ongoing.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 10, 2007 at 12:07 PM
I have a Denon AVR-2807. With certain DVD software (I think mainly kapag ang source is 2-channel audio or Dolby prologic), the AVR restricts the volume. You cannot raise the volume beyond a certain limit and the limit depends on the DVD. Paminsan -20.5, paminsan -16.5. The only way you can raise the volume further is to change the audio input setting to "external in." However, di na sya dumadaan sa equalizer ng AVR kaya ang pangit ng tunog.
There must be a way to defeat the suppression of the volume. Anyone has an idea how to do this? Anyone has an idea why Denon does this in the first place?
Thanks!
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 10, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Whenever I crank my volume, I can reach -5 volume w/o the speakers sounding too loud or too distorted. Try defeating your auto setup settings, maybe then you can crank it up.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 10, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Try defeating your auto setup settings, maybe then you can crank it up.
Yes, that will likely work. Kaya nga lang, that defeats the whole purpose of the room equalization technology of the Denon AVR. :( Pangit na tunog.
Post by: bumblebee on Sep 10, 2007 at 01:35 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 10, 2007 at 03:36 PM
It maybe that the receiver limits the volume so that the amp won't clip.
I am pretty sure that's the intention. But I don't use the built-in amp of the Denon AVR. I have external amps hooked to the pre-out connections and these external amps are in no danger of clipping when the Denon limits the volume.
Anyway, is the -20.5dB recording classical?
These happened to concert DVD's. I don't think they were classical. Baka rock. :)
It's annoying. May friend ako from abroad who loves Jethro Tull. Nagulat sya na meron ako. Problema nga is that the Denon wasn't allowing me to increase the volume to rock concert levels. :) On other DVD's, no problem yun.
Anyhow, the problem doesn't happen that often. Just on a few particular DVD's and I just don't understand why.
Post by: dyerds on Sep 11, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Pacheck na rin po kung tama setup ko sa HT ko...right now wala naman ako problema pero baka you can suggest something to maximize my Denon's (1907) capabilities
All speakers are set to small and my subwoofer is also set too small.
Distance of speakers are set to default.
Subwoofer set to LFE
Btw speakers are Wharf 9.4 (fronts), CS (center) and DFS (surrounds) and sub is VX10.
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2007 at 09:59 AM
Speaking of calibration mic...pano nyo po ba ginawa? Kasi nakalagay sa manual ng Denon that I you need to have a tripod. Kailangan ko ba tanggalin muna lahat ng gamit ko sa room bago ko'to gawin?
Whoa, definitely not. Your room acoustics also depend on your furniture arrangement. Just calibrate w/ your normal furniture arrangement and place the mike where you usually sit. During calibration, I put my mike on top of the couch where I lean my head.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Whoa, definitely not. Your room acoustics also depend on your furniture arrangement. Just calibrate w/ your normal furniture arrangement and place the mike where you usually sit. During calibration, I put my mike on top of the couch where I lean my head.
Yup. And when you add or move furniture, you need to calibrate again.
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Post by: ricky on Sep 12, 2007 at 02:30 PM
Whoa, definitely not. Your room acoustics also depend on your furniture arrangement. Just calibrate w/ your normal furniture arrangement and place the mike where you usually sit. During calibration, I put my mike on top of the couch where I lean my head.
Buti ka pa may MIKE to help you calibrate ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2007 at 03:04 PM
Para di OT, WOW look at the new DEnons from CEDIA:
(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_3/Show_Images/2007_CEDIA_Denon_AVP-A1_1.jpg)
(http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_3/Show_Images/2007_CEDIA_Denon_AVP-A1_2.jpg)
;D
Post by: Platinum on Sep 12, 2007 at 04:48 PM
Being a Denonian for the past 4 years, when its time to upgrade, I still prefer a Denon sound.
As of now, Im very contented/satisfied with my AVC-A1D (THX Ultra), I cant go louder than -20db... it will really rock my place! ;D
Lesson is, it really pays off getting a powerful receiver your money can buy! It will also help you
avoid further SARS... More power to PDVD! ;)
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 12, 2007 at 05:11 PM
O.T. Sir MatZ lumiit ata Avatar nyo?... ;D
Post by: dyerds on Sep 12, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Post by: ricky on Sep 12, 2007 at 09:11 PM
Is it really recommended to do calibration?
YES :)
Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 16, 2007 at 09:18 AM
Post by: blackie on Dec 16, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 17, 2007 at 07:19 AM
Post by: eksi on Dec 31, 2007 at 08:58 PM
Denon 1907
Front sp: Daichi 100 watts 6 ohms (floorstand)
Center sp: Daichi 100 watts 6 ohms (usual center)
Surround sp: Wharf 120 watts 6 ohms (bipolar)
Surround back: Daichi 100 watts ohms (satellite type)
Sub: Aiwa 1507 (10-inch)
After auto set-up po ng Denon 1907 using the provided mic, I just changed the speaker size of front and center speakers from large to small (as recommended in the manual for set up with subwoofer). I didn't change the distance and frequency crossover (which is at 60 hz).
So far I'm satisfied in the sounds and surround effects in this initial set-up (siguro dahil sanay ang tenga ko before sa dati kong ampli na bili ko lang sa raon). Just thinking, baka may dapat pa akong gawin to optimize my Denon 1907.
I'm using Pioneer DV400 to watch play CDs and watch DVDs which I connected to Denon 1907 using coaxial cable. Sa audio set-up of this player, I turned off all the available settings such as (Equalizer etc.) and turned mode from stereo to Lt/Rt (which I did'nt really know what these really means). I changed it because I believe that Denon 1907 is already producing stereo sound (thinking na mado-doble ang stereo hehe).
Hope to get your comments. I will really appreciate any help.
Post by: keypool on Jan 01, 2008 at 05:44 PM
I honestly believe this is the best brand new value for money receiver in the market today (currently selling for only 16500 pesos).
For speaker configuration, why don't you try setting the FRONT speaker to "LARGE" and Subwoofer mode to LFE+Main.
Then try to play your discs and see if you like it better. I think kasi that FRONTs should always be set to "LARGE" to get better sound from your floorstanders.
Audition it with your own ears to hear which is better for you.
Post by: blackie on Jan 01, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Ever consider changing your speakers? Don't even have that a high receiver model, but am currently and have been enjoying my denon wharfedale combo match. Like it was said earlier, let your ears be the judge. Do not be afraid to audition ;D
Happy New Year!
Blackie
Post by: dyerds on Jan 01, 2008 at 09:04 PM
Post by: keypool on Jan 01, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Kayang kaya ng Denon 1907 ang Wharfe 9.5. Kahit nga 9.6, kaya niya eh!
Post by: Weng! on Jan 02, 2008 at 12:47 AM
happy new year to all
Post by: dyerds on Jan 02, 2008 at 02:04 AM
Thank you very much for the info sir. :)
Panibagong tanong, ano po ba pinagkaiba ng 1907 sa 1908?
Post by: blackie on Jan 02, 2008 at 09:19 AM
Will second what Keypool said. Kayang kaya yan, 9.6 even. ;)
Cheers!
Blackie
Post by: eksi on Jan 02, 2008 at 09:38 AM
Thanks po sa reply.... I will try your suggestions. With regards to the speaker upgrade, di pa po muna kasi wala pa budget. I'm considering wharf also that's why i bought wharf for surrounds to complete 7.1 after i bought my denon 1907.
By the way, did you change other settings such as DSP (rock, etc.)? if yes, what's your preference for movies?
There's also another one, cinema equalizer... did you turned it on? if yes, when do you usually turn this on, during movie watching lang ba?
Post by: blackie on Jan 02, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Cheers and Enjoy your receiver!
Blackie
Post by: eksi on Jan 02, 2008 at 11:21 AM
thanks.... same with you, i let my denon do the magic. I can't wait to buy concert DVD's (maybe look for same lisa stansfield concert or micheal buble for the hall and cigarette smoke experience hehehe)
Post by: dyerds on Jan 02, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Thank you too for the second motion. :)
I'm also using 1907 and the same with blackie I let my receiver do it's magic. The only problem I'm still annoyed right now with my Denon is that the center speaker seems not as loud as it should be. I don't know kung ito yung problema sa Denon receivers kasi I also talked to a fellow member and he has the same problem as I have. Actually this topic was already brought up in this thread pero hindi lang masyado na na-tackle.
Post by: keypool on Jan 03, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Post by: RXV on Jan 03, 2008 at 01:16 AM
Sir, may pagkamahina nga ang Denon 1907 center sound. Bakit kaya? What I did was to increase the db in the volume adjustment for center. Yun lang nagawa ko.
Guys,
What is the usual volume setting (db) that you use when watching movies? Ako kasi usually -10 db na e. Anything lower than that medyo mahina na (walang dating) when it comes to action movies as well as dialogues. Ganun ba talaga? I use a Wharf 9CS as center. Kapag DTS signal, about -12 db to -15 db ok na.
And I thought that -20db was already overkill.. kulang pa pala
Post by: keypool on Jan 03, 2008 at 01:28 AM
@dyerds,
as RXV has said, you could increase the center speaker volume sa amp mo.
Post by: dyerds on Jan 03, 2008 at 04:39 AM
When I watch DVD movies, usually between -15 to -5 db ang range ko. OK lang naman ito. Max ng Denon 1907 is +18 DB, so marami ka pang extra volume power.
The problem with this sir is eventhough lakasan mo yung volume natatabunan pa rin sya ng fronts kaya you should really adjust your center.
Post by: RXV on Jan 03, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Ganun na nga po ang ginagawa ko ngayon. :) I also set my player (DV600) dialogue to low or medium. Do you think mic calibration will do the trick?
Sir, in-auto caliberate ko rin yun, pero inadjust ko rin after based on my preference. :)
I also set my Pioneer dialogue to medium to compensate for the lack of dialogue volume.
Post by: blackie on Jan 03, 2008 at 11:18 AM
Well I'm glad you guys brought it up again, so we can compare and share the experiences we have on our own individual setups.
Peace ;D
Blackie
Post by: blackie on Jan 03, 2008 at 11:20 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 03, 2008 at 12:18 PM
For speaker configuration, why don't you try setting the FRONT speaker to "LARGE" and Subwoofer mode to LFE+Main.
Then try to play your discs and see if you like it better. I think kasi that FRONTs should always be set to "LARGE" to get better sound from your floorstanders.
Setting fronts to large lets your LFE's go to your floorstanders. This is more taxing to your receiver since LFE's need lots more power. Thats why subwoofers are usually 100+w. Setting them to small passes this burden from your receiver to the subwoofer, giving your receiver more room to breathe. that translates to better HF & mid range details for your speakers. So unless you are using power amps or flagship level receivers with lots of power to spare, small is still the best recommended setting.
Thats why professional custom installed HT's in home theater magazines only use bookshelf size speakers or in-walls for HT (but 2-3 subs), since thay will be set to small anyway.
Post by: eksi on Jan 03, 2008 at 12:23 PM
I auditioned different settings:
front sp configuration: large vs. small
subwoofer set-up: lfe vs main+lfe
Mas happy ako with this combination (thanks sa reco):
front sp configuration: large
subwoofer set-up: main+lfe
By the way, i still have unanswered question before re DTS mix: stereo vs. Lt/rt (setting in DVD players particularly DV-400)... hope to get feedback of the difference between the two. I already auditioned it, pero di ko madistinguish while playing a movie DVD.
Post by: blackie on Jan 03, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Sorry do not have upsclaing DVD player yet:( Next on the agenda. Maybe ask for feedback from those who have the DV 400?
Cheers!
Post by: eksi on Jan 03, 2008 at 02:32 PM
thanks for the info... i will return back to my previous setting (i.e. all speakers set to small)... i don't want my Denon burden to much task... anyway i'm happy with it naman before...
ganun siguro talaga... may mga pros and cons and different settings... its up to us users kung ano ang isa-sacrifice... hehehe
follow up question lang po... if speakers are set to small... which subwoofer set-up is the most preferrable, LFE (normal) or main+LFE?
as i understand from the manual, in LFE - all the low frequency from speakers set to small will be diverted to the subwoofer, while in main+LFE - all low frequency from speakers set to large speakers will be played in subwoofer too, therefore, there will be no difference at all between these two setting when all the speakers will be set to small. your comments po....
Post by: RXV on Jan 03, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Hi Eksi!
Sorry do not have upsclaing DVD player yet:( Next on the agenda. Maybe ask for feedback from those who have the DV 400?
Cheers!
I'm currently using a DV-400 and I am very satisfied with it. I use 1080p connected to my Panasonic 42PV7 when watching DVDs.
So far so good. PQ and SQ is superb.
Post by: keypool on Jan 03, 2008 at 07:01 PM
@ matzter
thanks for the info... i will return back to my previous setting (i.e. all speakers set to small)... i don't want my Denon burden to much task... anyway i'm happy with it naman before...
ganun siguro talaga... may mga pros and cons and different settings... its up to us users kung ano ang isa-sacrifice... hehehe
follow up question lang po... if speakers are set to small... which subwoofer set-up is the most preferrable, LFE (normal) or main+LFE?
as i understand from the manual, in LFE - all the low frequency from speakers set to small will be diverted to the subwoofer, while in main+LFE - all low frequency from speakers set to large speakers will be played in subwoofer too, therefore, there will be no difference at all between these two setting when all the speakers will be set to small. your comments po....
Guguluhin lang kita ulit: ;D ;D
Actually, kaya naman ng Denon 1907 even if the fronts are set to large. The advantage of setting to fronts to large is that generally, the bass is more musical sa mga front speakers, instead of kung sa subwoofer lalabas. Minsan kasi, yung mga subwoofer, medyo muddy na ang tunog ng bass. But if you have a good subwoofer, then this might not be an issue for you.
So, if you watch a lot of concert/musical DVDs, i would still prefer to set the fronts to LARGE and sub to MAIN+LFE. Pero if panay action movies with lots of explosions, pwede na rin siguro nga iyung fronts are SMALL and let the subwoofer do all the LFE.
Just my opinion.
Post by: doughn on Jan 03, 2008 at 07:17 PM
my speaker settings is Fronts is pure effects cut-off 100hz, coz i dont want to destroy my front speakers (NHT Largr Bookshelf Speakers Model 1.5) when playing heavy bass movies specially DTS-encoded.
All the LFE signal goes directly to my 4yr old Velodyne spl1200 (750rms power) .the spl1200 bass is tight and controlled (not boomy ) so maganda din sa audio
Denon is great in movies -- very dynamic, good in music . IMHO
just wanna share
Post by: eksi on Jan 04, 2008 at 02:45 AM
hope could get advice which is the best between LFE vs. main+LFE for said speaker set-up (config)
Post by: Grimlock on Jan 04, 2008 at 08:21 AM
Post by: RXV on Jan 04, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Although the Denon is excellent both in movies and audio.
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 04, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Based on an article I read in a HT magazine measuring Denon entry levels up to the flagship models, it shows measured data w/ Denon entry levels choking (distorting) at the surrounds & a bit on the center during heavy scenes. Higher models & flagship models have constant power through all channels. This why I believe its best to use small setting for HT, specially if you arent using their high models.
Later on, I was using Rotel power amps & I even bi-amped my FS later. I still used the same setting. Actually, I discovered that with enough power you can attain that FS "UMPH!" impact you want even if the setting for your speaker is small. With my bi-amped setup (2 years ago, Mission M5 FS), you can actually feel the midrange hitting your skin, and its not the sub at all! at small speaker setting!
More power! :)
Post by: allan1836 on Jan 04, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Putting a larger speaker for your fronts and setting it to large will only burden your receiver more. It will play definitely but you will not be maximizing the potentials of your speakers.
Also, for h/t, the best set-up to attain best dynamics and clear, low bass is setting all speakers to small and let the sub do the .1 bass sounds (assuming your sub can handle it). ;D
Just sharing ... :)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 04, 2008 at 05:34 PM
I have a Denon 1705 & a JBL satellite speaker system in my bedroom. Even if I crank it up (0db), it just cant fill my room (w/c is bigger than my main HT room) with sound & gets distorted already at some point. All the while I thought it was because of the size limitation of the speakers.
During the past few days (holidays), I had the time to test a sample 5 x100w @ 4ohm (all channels driven) integrated power amp, using the 5.1 analog outs of my Pioneer DV-600 as decoder. The SQ was a mile ahead and my room was so filled with (undistorted) sound! Some things are beyond subjectivity and this is one of those. the difference was way too obvious.
Well, didnt even take me 10 mins to decide w/c amp says goodbye to my room ;D Its now packed & being sold at another website ;).
Anyway, the most important lesson I learned is the room filling property of a setup does not depend on the size of the speaker, its in the quality & power of the amp!!! And having just changed from my entry level receiver & hearing the difference, I guess I can safely agree to the article I read about entry levels choking on the surrounds (compromising the room-filling property).
Just sharing my discovery... no BS
Post by: allan1836 on Jan 04, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Post by: keypool on Jan 04, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I have a Denon 1705 & a JBL satellite speaker system in my bedroom. Even if I crank it up (0db), it just cant fill my room (w/c is bigger than my main HT room) with sound & gets distorted already at some point. All the while I thought it was because of the size limitation of the speakers.
During the past few days (holidays), I had the time to test a sample 5 x100w @ 4ohm (all channels driven) integrated power amp, using the 5.1 analog outs of my Pioneer DV-600 as decoder. The SQ was a mile ahead and my room was so filled with (undistorted) sound! Some things are beyond subjectivity and this is one of those. the difference was way too obvious.
Hi Matzer,
The amp you used is 5x100w @ 4ohms --- hindi ba that is only around 5x75w @6-8 ohms? So that should roughly just be the same capacity as your Denon 1705 na 5x75w @8 ohms so it should just be the same power?
Also, the 1907 we are using is more powerful than the 1705. It is rated at 5x85w at 8 ohms or roughly 170w @ 4 ohms.
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jan 04, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 05, 2008 at 09:26 AM
Post by: keema on Jan 06, 2008 at 02:58 PM
may kasama syang ipod dock pero onkyo yung brand. pwede namang e-kabit kse ang input nya is rca naman. question ko lang po is pwede bang ma-control yun gamit yung remote control? like select ka ng music..
second question...diba ang bago ngayon is yung 2808..anong difference nya dun sa luma nyang model?
thanks..
Post by: Lancito on Jan 07, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Still busy tweaking my AVR2808, sa dami ng pwedeng gawin sa AVR, nalilito na ako minsan ;D
I also got myself the AVR2808 last Christmas. I still can't figure out how to maximize the unit because of too many functions. I came from an Onkyo TXSV838.. One of the first Dolby Digital receivers around 15 years old. hehehe.
Trackers888, once na-master mo na baka puwede magpa tutor sayo ng lahat ng functions. Thanks.
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 07, 2008 at 06:42 PM
Hi Matzer,
The amp you used is 5x100w @ 4ohms --- hindi ba that is only around 5x75w @6-8 ohms? So that should roughly just be the same capacity as your Denon 1705 na 5x75w @8 ohms so it should just be the same power?
Also, the 1907 we are using is more powerful than the 1705. It is rated at 5x85w at 8 ohms or roughly 170w @ 4 ohms.
I have used 5 entry level receivers and I am very sure 10-20w dont really make a difference. I only heard the difference with the improved quality power supplies of mid level receivers.
And if you look at HT buyer's guide magazines, there are no 4ohm specs (continuous) for receivers, only power amps. The amp I used is actually rated only at 60w @ 8ohms, but all channels driven at the same time. Thats a different way of measuring. a 60+k Denon 3805 was measured in the same way gives only 70wpc. Entry levels are somewhere in the range of 30-35w only.
The power of a power amp is not = to the power of a receiver. even more when performance is the topic, unless we are talking about flagship AVR's. Case in point: my THX receiver rated at 130w x 7 couldnt beat the performance of my 100w x 5 THX power amp.
Anyway, I was just sharing my experience & realization about satelite speakers up there.
Post by: threadlock on Jan 07, 2008 at 07:07 PM
that is very true especially for Denon receivers, if I can still remember, there is a warning in the Denon manual that states that 4 Ohm speakers are not allowed, also there is a label at the back of the receiver saying to connect speakers of 6-12 Ohms only, unless you really want to burn your receivers, connecting speakers with 4 Ohm load is a definite risk. Better to use poweramps as suggested by sir matz as it can handle 4 Ohm loads with ease.
Just sharing my thoughts.. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 07, 2008 at 08:39 PM
Kaibigan ko ang vendor and he gave me a serious warning kasi raw that speaker is 2 ohms (!). Ang dami na raw power amp na sinabog nya! Sabi nya di raw kaya ng amp ko.
4 ohm speakers are hard to drive. 2 ohm speakers are very hard to drive.
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 07, 2008 at 09:27 PM
I also got myself the AVR2808 last Christmas. I still can't figure out how to maximize the unit because of too many functions. I came from an Onkyo TXSV838.. One of the first Dolby Digital receivers around 15 years old. hehehe.
Trackers888, once na-master mo na baka puwede magpa tutor sayo ng lahat ng functions. Thanks.
Nakow?! hehehe matatagalan pa siguro Sir! :D
Better ask master Streetsmart and Munskie, they have the same brand like ours, AVR 2808 and AVR 3808 respectively ;D Para silang biologist na kayang mag dissect and explain ang function ng Denon :o
Post by: Lancito on Jan 07, 2008 at 11:56 PM
Having difficulty properly calibrating my system. Kindly check below settings and let me know if correct.
AVR 2808
Monitor Audio - BR2 fronts and BRLCR for center
Dai Ichi satellites for rear
Subs - Atlantic Technology T70PBM
Room size - 12 square meters
Distance of left, center, and right speaker from listening area - approx. 10 feet
Sound Level - LEFT and RIGHT speaker = +3db
Center speaker = +5db
Surrounds = 0db
Pioneer DVD383 - Dialogue set to MEDIUM (is this necessary if i want dialogues to be more audible?)
It is a bedroon with the bed against the rear wall.
Please let me know what I need to improve on. I have a strong feeling there is a huge room for improvement if calibration is properly done. I only used the Audessey once. Parang mali mali lumabas sa auto calibration.
Thanks!
Are my settings correct?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 08, 2008 at 07:45 AM
Question for anyone willing to help.
Having difficulty properly calibrating my system. Kindly check below settings and let me know if correct.
AVR 2808
Monitor Audio - BR2 fronts and BRLCR for center
Dai Ichi satellites for rear
Subs - Atlantic Technology T70PBM
Room size - 12 square meters
Distance of left, center, and right speaker from listening area - approx. 10 feet
Sound Level - LEFT and RIGHT speaker = +3db
Center speaker = +5db
Surrounds = 0db
Pioneer DVD383 - Dialogue set to MEDIUM (is this necessary if i want dialogues to be more audible?)
It is a bedroon with the bed against the rear wall.
Please let me know what I need to improve on. I have a strong feeling there is a huge room for improvement if calibration is properly done. I only used the Audessey once. Parang mali mali lumabas sa auto calibration.
Thanks!
Are my settings correct?
It's impossible for anyone to say that your settings are correct. There are just too many variables.
Firstly, you should ensure that your speakers are optimally positioned. There are many articles which explain this. Some of the best articles can be found in the Audiholics website.
Once the speakers are properly positioned, you need to do the bass management. I would suggest that you designate all speakers as small. Crossovers will automatically be set at 80 hz.
Next, let Audyssey do its job. However, you need to know how to position the mike positions while using Audyssey. There is a thread at AVS Forum which provides a lot of tips on how to do this. There is also a very good FAQ at the Audyssey website. I would say that for your room, just make sure that you don't put the mikes too close to the wall. Position the mikes around the main listening position, but not too near the wall.
Regarding more audible dialogue, I would trust the Denon more than the Pio player. Just leave the Audyssey settings as is.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Post by: Lancito on Jan 08, 2008 at 09:04 AM
It's impossible for anyone to say that your settings are correct. There are just too many variables.
Firstly, you should ensure that your speakers are optimally positioned. There are many articles which explain this. Some of the best articles can be found in the Audiholics website.
Once the speakers are properly positioned, you need to do the bass management. I would suggest that you designate all speakers as small. Crossovers will automatically be set at 80 hz.
Next, let Audyssey do its job. However, you need to know how to position the mike positions while using Audyssey. There is a thread at AVS Forum which provides a lot of tips on how to do this. There is also a very good FAQ at the Audyssey website. I would say that for your room, just make sure that you don't put the mikes too close to the wall. Position the mikes around the main listening position, but not too near the wall.
Regarding more audible dialogue, I would trust the Denon more than the Pio player. Just leave the Audyssey settings as is.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
Thanks Streetsmart! IL try your suggestions later tonight.
One more thing, would you trust the Audyssey settings more than an SPL meter to calibrate your system?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 08, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Thanks Streetsmart! IL try your suggestions later tonight.
One more thing, would you trust the Audyssey settings more than an SPL meter to calibrate your system?
I would trust Audyssey more, as long as you set it up correctly. I don't use my SPL meter anymore.
You will notice that even the actual distances from speaker to main listening position may be different from what Audyssyey indicates. Lalo na ang subwoofer. Dapat sundan mo pa rin ang Audyssey kasi may reason sya for that difference. Exception lang is if the difference is very big (like 1 foot vs. 10 feet) - in that case, ulitin mo ang Audyssey.
Audyssey is a very sophisticated system. It's not just the volume levels that it adjusts. It also equalizes the system. Makikita mo that there is a 9-band parametric equalizer sa Denon and that is adjusted according to the Audyssey calculation. Actually, the equalization by Audyssey is even more than 9 bands! Ang nakikita mo lang is what the Denon can show, but the reality is that Audyssey does a lot finer equalization than just 9 bands.
By the way, make sure that you use a tripod when doing the Audyssey calibration. It doesn't work properly without a tripod.
Good luck! :)
Post by: Lancito on Jan 08, 2008 at 10:58 AM
I would trust Audyssey more, as long as you set it up correctly. I don't use my SPL meter anymore.
You will notice that even the actual distances from speaker to main listening position may be different from what Audyssyey indicates. Lalo na ang subwoofer. Dapat sundan mo pa rin ang Audyssey kasi may reason sya for that difference. Exception lang is if the difference is very big (like 1 foot vs. 10 feet) - in that case, ulitin mo ang Audyssey.
Audyssey is a very sophisticated system. It's not just the volume levels that it adjusts. It also equalizes the system. Makikita mo that there is a 9-band parametric equalizer sa Denon and that is adjusted according to the Audyssey calculation. Actually, the equalization by Audyssey is even more than 9 bands! Ang nakikita mo lang is what the Denon can show, but the reality is that Audyssey does a lot finer equalization than just 9 bands.
By the way, make sure that you use a tripod when doing the Audyssey calibration. It doesn't work properly without a tripod.
Good luck! :)
Wow, im impressed! You really know what you are talking about.
I was even planning on getting a Radio Shack SPL meter this week.
Anyhow, last few questions lang if I may, my set up is in my bedroom since I do not have the luxury of having a separate A/V room. This means that my viewing/listening position is on the bed with my head leaning against the wall. In front of me around 10 feet away are the speakers and plasma. My rear speakers are satellites from Dai Ichi which are around 3 feet away.
Dikit sa wall ang listening area ko.
1. Won't this cause an incorrect reading sa Audyssey since it is mentioned in the manual that the mic should be placed away from the wall?
2. Listening area is primarily on a queen size bed. Do I still need to make 6 listening positions when I only use 3 positions?
Thanks for the help!
Lance
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 08, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Wow, im impressed! You really know what you are talking about.
I was even planning on getting a Radio Shack SPL meter this week.
Anyhow, last few questions lang if I may, my set up is in my bedroom since I do not have the luxury of having a separate A/V room. This means that my viewing/listening position is on the bed with my head leaning against the wall. In front of me around 10 feet away are the speakers and plasma. My rear speakers are satellites from Dai Ichi which are around 3 feet away.
Dikit sa wall ang listening area ko.
1. Won't this cause an incorrect reading sa Audyssey since it is mentioned in the manual that the mic should be placed away from the wall?
2. Listening area is primarily on a queen size bed. Do I still need to make 6 listening positions when I only use 3 positions?
Thanks for the help!
Lance
Problema nga ang set-up mo. Audyssey will not work well kung dikit sa wall ang mike.
You will need to experiment. Personally, I would choose a "phantom" main listening position 3 feet from the wall and then do the calibration from there.
You will still need to do 6 mike positions. Kahit tabi lang and paligid ng 1st position. The measurement is more accurate with more mike positions. The 2808 can go up to 8 positions.
Post by: Lancito on Jan 08, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Problema nga ang set-up mo. Audyssey will not work well kung dikit sa wall ang mike.
You will need to experiment. Personally, I would choose a "phantom" main listening position 3 feet from the wall and then do the calibration from there.
You will still need to do 6 mike positions. Kahit tabi lang and paligid ng 1st position. The measurement is more accurate with more mike positions. The 2808 can go up to 8 positions.
I agree with you. Ilalayo ko nalang yung set up microphone away from the wall when I calibrate.
Thanks a lot for the help Streetsmart!
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 08, 2008 at 02:56 PM
I agree with you. Ilalayo ko nalang yung set up microphone away from the wall when I calibrate.
Thanks a lot for the help Streetsmart!
And here it goes... another fellow Denon AVR2808 owner who assisted by master streetsmart ;D
Paano nalang kung wala ka? :D
More power Bro!
Post by: Lancito on Jan 08, 2008 at 03:00 PM
I didn't follow all the settings like the front to LARGE since I am only using BR2 bookshelf speakers. I did some minor tweaking on the sound level adjustments, crossover, distance, etc. Noticed that the CENTER channel volume was way too low. Had to increase it by +3db. For the rest, it was ok.
Another question gurus, do I use the Audyssey equalizer? Do I use Audessey flat? Or I DO NOT USE the equalizer at all? What's the best choice?
Thanks!
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 08, 2008 at 09:04 PM
During my lunch break, I used the Audyssey mic to re-calibrate my system.
I didn't follow all the settings like the front to LARGE since I am only using BR2 bookshelf speakers. I did some minor tweaking on the sound level adjustments, crossover, distance, etc. Noticed that the CENTER channel volume was way too low. Had to increase it by +3db. For the rest, it was ok.
Another question gurus, do I use the Audyssey equalizer? Do I use Audessey flat? Or I DO NOT USE the equalizer at all? What's the best choice?
Thanks!
Sir nag Audyssey calibration din ako pero I haven't change anything after the test. So far kuntento naman ako sa result and I didn't use or adjust the equalizer. Audyssey did change it for me. If for any reason hindi na met ang gusto mo, maybe something wrong during the test or hindi lang siguro ako marunong makinig ng tama :D :D :D
Post by: Lancito on Jan 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM
Sir nag Audyssey calibration din ako pero I haven't change anything after the test. So far kuntento naman ako sa result and I didn't use or adjust the equalizer. Audyssey did change it for me. If for any reason hindi na met ang gusto mo, maybe something wrong during the test or hindi lang siguro ako marunong makinig ng tama :D :D :D
Thanks Trackers! But doesn't it defeat the purpose of using the Audyssey mic if the equalizer will be set to off? Kumbaga you will only be using the sound level, distance which you can use with an ordinary SPL meter. Audysset kasi sets the equalizer for each speaker to properly blend in the with acoustics of the room.
Tama ba ako? ???
Post by: Lancito on Jan 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM
After performing the Audyssey auto set up, the room equalizer was automatically set to Audyssey MultiEQ. I have options of changing it to Audyssey bypass L/R, Manual, or OFF. What is best? Opinions needed please.
I want the best from my system. If no equalizer is best to hear pure direct from sources then so be it but opinions are highly appreciated.
Please let me know your settings para more or less can give me an idea on how to set my 2808.
Lance
Post by: greenlight on Jan 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I hope someone can help me out ???. I encountered a problem with my Denon AVR last month and I would like to know if the experts can give me suggestions on what to do.
My HT setup is already old but I still love it and I don't think I need to upgrade yet. I have the 2802 which I bought 5 years ago but I think it is still very capable and suits my needs. I have a 6.1 setup with Mirage speakers, Definitive Technology Subs, and a Pioneer DV-656 DVD Player. My HT setup is five-years old but still packs a lot of oomph. I plan to upgrade to an LCD monitor and replace my DVD player but I will still keep my Denon AVR.
Last month I was tinkering with the AVR as my family will be spending the new year at home. I was preparing and checking my HT setup for the event. I was trying different setups because I wanted to connect my iPods to the Denon AVR (and also my Amp which is connected to my ceiling speakers on the other rooms). Everything was working fine. The room was filled with beautiful sounds ;D. Since I was already playing around with it, I also tested my SACDs, DVD-Audio and AIX CDs which I plan to demo to my family. As I was winding down, satisfied, and packing up everything, we had a brown-out!! >:( Initially, I thought that I was the cause of the brown-out because I was pulling out jacks at the back of the 2802 when the brown-out occurred. But when I checked outside, I found out that the other houses in our village also had no power, so I guess, my tinkering with my AVR was not the cause.
It was night time so it was very dark when this happened. After a few minutes, the power went back on. I went back to what I was doing. But before calling it a day, I decided to test my setup. This was when I noticed that there was no sound coming out of the speakers anymore ??? ???!!! I tried the different sources (DVD, CD, iPOD) from the AVR but still no sound. I tried to power off then on but still no sound.
My components are plugged into an AVR so I hoped that the power spike was absorbed by the AVR.
I then tried the System Setup of the AVR and went to the Setting the Channel Levels of the speakers. Normally, I the AVR will produce sounds on the different speakers around the room but this time, no sound was heard. Even from the Sub Woofer had no sound coming out of it. :o
So I concluded that the problem was not from the source player of the AVR but the AVR itself. It seems that my AVR does not output any sound anymore.
I also tried re-initializing the unit by holding the A and B speaker buttons at the front of the unit while pressing the Power-On button. The front display flashed signifying that the unit has reset but still no sound!!
I tried connect my front speakers to my other amp and sound came out so I guess there is no problem with the speakers.
Lastly, I noticed that "Digital" is blinking on the front panel whenever I tried to play the DVD. I am using digital inputs from the DVD. When I press the ANALOG button on the remote (to use the ANALOG output of the DVD player to the AVR), the blinking "DIGITAL" goes away and ANALOG is then displayed (and not blinking) but still no sound comes out of the speakers. I have ANALOG connection between my DVD player and the AVR.
Do you have any suggestions that I can try before I send out my unit to the repair shop? If I have no other option but to have this repaired by a professional, can you suggest which shop I can bring my Denon unit to? I bought my 2802 at Electronics Depot five years ago. I am not sure if they still carry the Denon brand.
Any help would be appreciated!! I just bought new region 1 DVDs last month and I am dying to watch them. Watching them on my regular DVD player attached to the TV is not as exciting as watching them on a full HT setup.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the long post :)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 15, 2008 at 01:56 PM
My components are plugged into an AVR so I hoped that the power spike was absorbed by the AVR.
Automatic voltage regulators : regulate the voltage. What you had was a power surge & that can really damage gears instantly. most AVR's DO NOT have power surge protection.
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I hope someone can help me out ???. I encountered a problem with my Denon AVR last month and I would like to know if the experts can give me suggestions on what to do.
Get a surge protector next time after you repair your Denon. Try Line conditioners, they have built in surge protection plus they improve your PQ & SQ. Try the affordable Bada line conditioner w/c has (modesty aside) more than proven its ability to so many of its users.
Post by: blackie on Jan 16, 2008 at 07:19 AM
No Problem with the long post. If you notice a lot of the long posts here are very informative ;D. What happened to your AVR is quite scary if you ask me :o. Sights and Sounds at Shang I know is an official Denon dealer, not sure if they do repairs though. Good luck on getting your AVr fixed.
Cheers,
Blackie
Post by: greenlight on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:01 AM
So my AVR will be going to the repair shop. I will call Sights and Sounds. Thanks for the tip.
Regards ;D
Post by: Lancito on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Post by: eksi on Jan 25, 2008 at 08:11 AM
For normal cd players, sa'n mas prefer i-connect sa audio terminal ng Denon? digital (coax/optical) or analog (left and right terminal)?
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 25, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Digital--> receiver decodes the music.
Depends on w/c is better
Post by: eksi on Jan 25, 2008 at 02:48 PM
Post by: Lancito on Jan 25, 2008 at 05:18 PM
Fronts - BR2, (small) crossover set to 60hz.
Center - BRLCR, (small) crossover set to 80hz.
Rear - satellites (small) crossover set to 110hz.
LFE - 80Hz.
Should I make the BR2 crossover set to 80hz?
Post by: AudioAmplified on Jan 25, 2008 at 08:06 PM
There is another way which uses a SPL meter. The dealer you got the set from should have one of these. :)
Post by: eksi on Feb 02, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Post by: Weng! on Feb 04, 2008 at 09:51 PM
tanong lang po regarding sa settings using audyssey.
i've ran the auto test 3 times already and observed that the subwoofer attenuation is always set to -4.5db. ganito ba ang result sa test nyo? i always crank up the sub settings to +8 db manually after the test kasi yung orig setting ng audyssey ay hindi marinig ang LFE. sa latest test ko kanina, ang fronts ay naka set sa LARGE na. i tried switching between LARGE and SMALL but i've only heard minimal difference between the two.
below is my setup for your reference:
denon 2308
wharfedale evo30
wharfedale evo center
wharfedale evo10
dtx14.5 sub
25 sq mtr room
thanks :)
Post by: Lancito on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:12 PM
guys,
tanong lang po regarding sa settings using audyssey.
i've ran the auto test 3 times already and observed that the subwoofer attenuation is always set to -4.5db. ganito ba ang result sa test nyo? i always crank up the sub settings to +8 db manually after the test kasi yung orig setting ng audyssey ay hindi marinig ang LFE. sa latest test ko kanina, ang fronts ay naka set sa LARGE na. i tried switching between LARGE and SMALL but i've only heard minimal difference between the two.
below is my setup for your reference:
denon 2308
wharfedale evo30
wharfedale evo center
wharfedale evo10
dtx14.5 sub
25 sq mtr room
thanks :)
After finishing the Audyssey set up, set the subwoofer setting to 0 on the receiver. Manually set the volume of your subs to 12 o'clock. Depending on taste or preference you can either increase volume or decrease volume using a dvd with good LFE which you are familiar with. I suggest you set crossover to 80Hz on the receiver and set the crossover on the sub a bit below 80Hz...say 70Hz.
As for fronts, use small even if you are using floorstanders. Set the crossover to 60Hz and 80Hz on your centers. Try to experiment with your settings until you get the sound you like best. Good luck.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 05, 2008 at 04:34 AM
Kasi ngayon hindi pa naka customized set up ang AVR ko.
Plan to have the speaker stands and sub first before doing the set up.
Post by: Weng! on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:09 AM
After finishing the Audyssey set up, set the subwoofer setting to 0 on the receiver. Manually set the volume of your subs to 12 o'clock. Depending on taste or preference you can either increase volume or decrease volume using a dvd with good LFE which you are familiar with. I suggest you set crossover to 80Hz on the receiver and set the crossover on the sub a bit below 80Hz...say 70Hz.
As for fronts, use small even if you are using floorstanders. Set the crossover to 60Hz and 80Hz on your centers. Try to experiment with your settings until you get the sound you like best. Good luck.
thanks sa tip sir. tanong ko lang po sa mga may audyssey kung ganun ba rin ang calculated attenuation ng SUB after the test. di talaga tama ang -4.5db kasi wala ng marinig na LFE. my room is 25 sq mtr so dapat malakas ang setting ng sub. the rest of the speaker setup ay tama naman especially dun sa speaker distance, spot on talaga ang audyssey. btw, i did the test at midnight at walang outside noise na marinig sa tv room.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:47 AM
thanks sa tip sir. tanong ko lang po sa mga may audyssey kung ganun ba rin ang calculated attenuation ng SUB after the test. di talaga tama ang -4.5db kasi wala ng marinig na LFE. my room is 25 sq mtr so dapat malakas ang setting ng sub. the rest of the speaker setup ay tama naman especially dun sa speaker distance, spot on talaga ang audyssey. btw, i did the test at midnight at walang outside noise na marinig sa tv room.
How many locations do you use when you do the Audyssey set-up? Do you use a tripod or do you just hold the mic? Are the locations you select for the Audyssey set-up close to walls?
Typically, if you locate the mic too close to a wall, the mic reads a very strong bass and so it will lower the level of the sub.
In any case, there is no harm to increase the level of the sub after doing the Audyssey set-up.
Post by: Lancito on Feb 05, 2008 at 10:48 AM
thanks sa tip sir. tanong ko lang po sa mga may audyssey kung ganun ba rin ang calculated attenuation ng SUB after the test. di talaga tama ang -4.5db kasi wala ng marinig na LFE. my room is 25 sq mtr so dapat malakas ang setting ng sub. the rest of the speaker setup ay tama naman especially dun sa speaker distance, spot on talaga ang audyssey. btw, i did the test at midnight at walang outside noise na marinig sa tv room.
I think it is normal that Audyssey calibrates the sub conservatively. In my case, I also get a -4.5 db from Audyssey auto set up. You just need to manually set it to zero from the OSD. I do not have the technical explanations as to why is occurs but it is a typical setting that the audyssey makes on my system as well. Don't panic. Do your own tweaking and don't make a microphone dictate to you what sounds good and not.
Post by: Weng! on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:25 PM
How many locations do you use when you do the Audyssey set-up? Do you use a tripod or do you just hold the mic? Are the locations you select for the Audyssey set-up close to walls?
Typically, if you locate the mic too close to a wall, the mic reads a very strong bass and so it will lower the level of the sub.
In any case, there is no harm to increase the level of the sub after doing the Audyssey set-up.
hi streetsmart & lancito,
i tested 6 locations with the mic on a tripod. everything was followed from the manual. in fact i put the mic/tripod on the front part of the sofa so it will be away from the backrest.
what settings did u guys changed on the sub after the auto-test? 0db to me is still too low. my sub volume setting is at 12 o'clock and the crossover set to max as the AVR's sub crossover is set at 80hz. ok lang ba to? is it better to use the crossover of the 2308 rather than the DTX4.15's crossover? i haven't tried to increase the AVR x-over setting and control from the sub though. masubukan nga.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2008 at 07:18 AM
hi streetsmart & lancito,
i tested 6 locations with the mic on a tripod. everything was followed from the manual. in fact i put the mic/tripod on the front part of the sofa so it will be away from the backrest.
what settings did u guys changed on the sub after the auto-test? 0db to me is still too low. my sub volume setting is at 12 o'clock and the crossover set to max as the AVR's sub crossover is set at 80hz. ok lang ba to? is it better to use the crossover of the 2308 rather than the DTX4.15's crossover? i haven't tried to increase the AVR x-over setting and control from the sub though. masubukan nga.
Two last points on the mic:
1) Make sure that the mic is at least 2 inches higher than the backrest of your sofa.
2) Don't select a mic position which is close to a wall.
If you can disable the crossover of the sub, do so. Otherwise, set the low-pass filter to the highest - 120 hz. Do the same with the AVR - low-pass filter to 120 hz.
Aside from increasing the gain of the sub, you can also use the LFE+Main option of the Denon, wherein the sub outputs not only the LFE channel but also the bass frequencies of the other channels. That should increase the overall bass volume, if that is what you wish.
By the way, it is pretty useless for us to compare settings on the sub because we have different subs and AVR's and rooms. Actually, Denon sets my sub volume to -12.0 and that is perfect for my system.
Post by: Weng! on Feb 07, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Two last points on the mic:
1) Make sure that the mic is at least 2 inches higher than the backrest of your sofa.
2) Don't select a mic position which is close to a wall.
If you can disable the crossover of the sub, do so. Otherwise, set the low-pass filter to the highest - 120 hz. Do the same with the AVR - low-pass filter to 120 hz.
Aside from increasing the gain of the sub, you can also use the LFE+Main option of the Denon, wherein the sub outputs not only the LFE channel but also the bass frequencies of the other channels. That should increase the overall bass volume, if that is what you wish.
By the way, it is pretty useless for us to compare settings on the sub because we have different subs and AVR's and rooms. Actually, Denon sets my sub volume to -12.0 and that is perfect for my system.
1. the tip of the mic is more than 2 inches above than the sofa's backrest.
2.. the test positions were all far from the walls.
i can disable the sub's x-over by setting it at max. audyssey set the denon's x-over at 80hz and now the one controlling overall as sub's x-over is in defeat mode.
what dvd material are best to try out LFE's?
siguro its time to get a velo sub na ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:00 AM
1. the tip of the mic is more than 2 inches above than the sofa's backrest.
2.. the test positions were all far from the walls.
i can disable the sub's x-over by setting it at max. audyssey set the denon's x-over at 80hz and now the one controlling overall as sub's x-over is in defeat mode.
what dvd material are best to try out LFE's?
siguro its time to get a velo sub na ;D
You seem to be doing everything right. I can't really understand why your bass volume is so low. Just increase the gain of the sub after the Audyssey set-up. That should be ok.
I find that the best DVD material for bass is a concert with a lot of bass guitar. If you can distinctly hear the individual notes of the bass guitar and the sound is tight, you've got good bass. My reference concert is Cream at the Royal Albert Hall in 2005.
A velo sub is very good. I would highly recommend it.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:21 PM
The maid kept it and I can't find it...oh well I'll just hvae to do it tomorrow or over the weekend.
Question lang...ilang wattage consumption ng Denon 1907 when operating?
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2008 at 09:29 AM
Can't find my mic and manual :( Wanted to do an auto set up.\
The maid kept it and I can't find it...oh well I'll just hvae to do it tomorrow or over the weekend.
Question lang...ilang wattage consumption ng Denon 1907 when operating?
Normally, you should be able to download the manual from the Denon website.
You should be able to get the wattage from the rear of the amp, beside the power socket.
Post by: Weng! on Feb 08, 2008 at 08:00 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 09, 2008 at 09:21 AM
thanks streetsmart. another question sir, what's the usual speaker setting sa center? dapat ba small din like the fronts? kasi small kasi ang calculated setting ng audyssey sa center channel ko. ang rear ba small din?
The speaker settings determined by Audyssey depend on the type of speaker. However, even if Audyssey says a speaker is "large," you have the option to set it to "small" so that the sub handles all the bass below the crossover. Just choose what sounds best for you.
Post by: macdon on Feb 09, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Post by: eksi on Feb 09, 2008 at 10:35 PM
do denon 1907 + power amp set-up need high end speakers? what brand and minimum watts of speakers need for this set-up?
Post by: macdon on Feb 09, 2008 at 11:40 PM
what brand of power amp best match for denon 1907?
do denon 1907 + power amp set-up need high end speakers? what brand and minimum watts of speakers need for this set-up?
The Bada 5ch power amp comes to mind ;)
Gurus,
Is it possible to bridge the 6ch of a Rotel 1066 power amp, so 3 strong channels can power the 2 front & center speakers & use the Denon's rear channels to power the surround?
Post by: atong_ang on Feb 10, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Idol ka talaga, halos every week meron ka bago. hehe congrats
Post by: macdon on Feb 10, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Macdon,
Idol ka talaga, halos every week meron ka bago. hehe congrats
Small time lang ako chief - mga maliliit lang binibile ko........yung sa iyo ang hi-end eh ;D
Mag 805 kana kasi eh ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 10, 2008 at 07:22 AM
The speaker settings determined by Audyssey depend on the type of speaker. However, even if Audyssey says a speaker is "large," you have the option to set it to "small" so that the sub handles all the bass below the crossover. Just choose what sounds best for you.
Clarification. The determination of whether speakers are "large" or "small" depends on the AVR, not Audyssey. In any case, you can change the settings from "large" to "small." It's not advisable to change from "small" to "large."
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 10, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 10, 2008 at 07:55 AM
Did my Audyssey set up for my 1907. I'd say better ang tunog now that the first time I hooked it up. Mas ok na manood ng mga DVDs. Next step is to do some unconventional sound proofing of the room :):):)
If you do soundproofing or make any significant change in your furniture (even lay-out), you need to run Audyssey again.
Post by: macdon on Feb 10, 2008 at 08:01 AM
I was in a hurry last night - didnt get to check its features properly :P
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Kahit na additiona of heavy curtains and pillows lang naman. Siguro rug in the future :)
Yan kasi ang suggestion ng isa sa mga suking tindahan natin.
To help the acoustic properties of a room -- lalu na kung concrete wall is to have items na ok amg ansorb ng sound (or keep the sound inside the room???).
With those small unconventional sound proofing steps -- if you can call it that -- kelangan ko uli i-runa ng Audyssey?
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 11, 2008 at 07:46 AM
streetsmart,
Kahit na additiona of heavy curtains and pillows lang naman. Siguro rug in the future :)
Yan kasi ang suggestion ng isa sa mga suking tindahan natin.
To help the acoustic properties of a room -- lalu na kung concrete wall is to have items na ok amg ansorb ng sound (or keep the sound inside the room???).
With those small unconventional sound proofing steps -- if you can call it that -- kelangan ko uli i-runa ng Audyssey?
Most definitely yes!
Audyssey is very sensitive. For example, even the tripod itself is important. You should avoid using a big tripod because the tripod itself tends to cause reflections in the high frequencies which then distorts the inputs to Audyssey (and subsequently the results).
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 11, 2008 at 07:51 AM
Kumpletuhin ko muna mga unconventional sound proofing "stuff" before I run it again.
Para isang pasada na lang.
Thanks.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:04 AM
I see, I see.
Kumpletuhin ko muna mga unconventional sound proofing "stuff" before I run it again.
Para isang pasada na lang.
Thanks.
Don't worry about making many "pasadas." That's part of the fun. Hobby nga kasi. I have done maybe 20 or 30! It only takes about 20 minutes.
Post by: threadlock on Feb 22, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Did my Audyssey set up for my 1907. I'd say better ang tunog now that the first time I hooked it up. Mas ok na manood ng mga DVDs. Next step is to do some unconventional sound proofing of the room :):):)
sir, pardon me but I think the calibration system for Denon 1907 is not an Audyssey but a regular Denon autosetup/calibration. I think only mid-level Denons beginning with 2807 has Audyssey calibration.
http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3254.asp (http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3254.asp)
Audyssey question:
Will Audyssey EQ settings work when using the 7.1 analog input of the receiver or other analog inputs?
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 22, 2008 at 03:56 PM
sir, pardon me but I think the calibration system for Denon 1907 is not an Audyssey but a regular Denon autosetup/calibration. I think only mid-level Denons beginning with 2807 has Audyssey calibration.
Ohh ...
Audyssey question:
Will Audyssey EQ settings work when using the 7.1 analog input of the receiver or other analog inputs?
Audyssey doesn't work when using the 7.1 analog inputs.
If you send hi-def audio to your Denon AVR through the 7.1 analog inputs, you won't have the Audyssey processing, other than speaker distances and levels ... and that's a very big weakness.
Post by: threadlock on Feb 22, 2008 at 04:12 PM
As an additional answer to my own question, 2 channel analog inputs do work with Audyssey. Link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421)
I was about to make a plunge on Denon 2308 but was saddened by the fact that with this receiver, Audyssey is disengaged for HD movies. :(
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 23, 2008 at 08:48 AM
thanks streetsmart!
As an additional answer to my own question, 2 channel analog inputs do work with Audyssey. Link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421)
I was about to make a plunge on Denon 2308 but was saddened by the fact that with this receiver, Audyssey is disengaged for HD movies. :(
Yes. With a Denon 2308, you can use the LPCM hi-def audio through HDMI. But kung walang LPCM ang disc, then you have to use the 7.1 analog inputs, which means wala Audyssey processing.
Post by: mjct6210 on Feb 28, 2008 at 03:30 AM
comment naman regarding durability of denon receivers. pati na din kung saan service center dito sa pinas at kung readily available parts. im saving for a mid level denon. thanks.
Post by: blackie on Feb 28, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Very pleased with it. Going on two years. No need for any kind of servicing yet.......
Post by: trackers888 on Mar 01, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Clarification. The determination of whether speakers are "large" or "small" depends on the AVR, not Audyssey. In any case, you can change the settings from "large" to "small." It's not advisable to change from "small" to "large."
:o Ganun ba yun Sir Mark?
When you suggest to do the Audyssey calibration of my AVR nakita ko naka set sa "Large" ang fronts ko.
Are you referring to the fronts ba or to all 7 speakers including SW. Sorry, I can't check now since I'm still away from home. ;D
I didn't change it after the calibration na coz for me nag improve naman from previous setting.
Post by: Weng! on Mar 01, 2008 at 01:09 AM
:o Ganun ba yun Sir Mark?
When you suggest to do the Audyssey calibration of my AVR nakita ko naka set sa "Large" ang fronts ko.
Are you referring to the fronts ba or to all 7 speakers including SW. Sorry, I can't check now since I'm still away from home. ;D
I didn't change it after the calibration na coz for me nag improve naman from previous setting.
same here, my wharfedale evo30 was set to LARGE by audyssey.
Post by: Munskie on Mar 01, 2008 at 05:54 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2008 at 08:45 AM
However, the reality is often that the speakers are not actually able to produce deep bass, say from 20 hz to 50 hz. If that is the case and some deep bass is sent to the speakers, nawawala yun. That deep bass is simply not reproduced.
The solution is to set the speakers to "Small" and then set a crossover that is appropriate for that speaker (usually 80 hz but it can go to 60 hz if your speakers are really capable). That means that all the bass signals below the crossover are sent to the subwoofer instead of the speaker. This is usually the best.
Post by: trackers888 on Mar 01, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Based on the readings done by Audyssey, the AVR determines if each of your speakers is "full-range," i.e., able to produce a signal from 20 hz to 20 khz. These speakers are set to "Large" by the AVR. This means that the AVR assumes that the speakers can reproduce all of the bass signals sent to them.
However, the reality is often that the speakers are not actually able to produce deep bass, say from 20 hz to 50 hz. If that is the case and some deep bass is sent to the speakers, nawawala yun. That deep bass is simply not reproduced.
The solution is to set the speakers to "Small" and then set a crossover that is appropriate for that speaker (usually 80 hz but it can go to 60 hz if your speakers are really capable). That means that all the bass signals below the crossover are sent to the subwoofer instead of the speaker. This is usually the best.
just override the setting........ ;)
OK mga Sir, I'll check this as soon as I get back ;)
Thanks sa INPUT, as usual ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2008 at 07:22 AM
Any tips on how I can turn on/use/activate the AL24 Processing Plus on my 2808? I don't know how to make it work.
I think I finally have an idea about this. My understanding is as follows:
The AL24 processing on Denon equipment is essentially a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) which is supposed to be pretty sophisticated. However, it works only with PCM tracks. If you feed PCM to the Denon AVR, the "AL24" will automatically light up. That will happen for both stereo and multi-channel (for example, the uncompressed LPCM tracks which are found on a lot of Blu-Ray discs).
Post by: Lancito on Mar 02, 2008 at 01:58 PM
I think I finally have an idea about this. My understanding is as follows:
The AL24 processing on Denon equipment is essentially a Digital to Analog Converter (DAC) which is supposed to be pretty sophisticated. However, it works only with PCM tracks. If you feed PCM to the Denon AVR, the "AL24" will automatically light up. That will happen for both stereo and multi-channel (for example, the uncompressed LPCM tracks which are found on a lot of Blu-Ray discs).
Thanks Streetsmart! I noticed that too.
Post by: sinnerman on Mar 05, 2008 at 01:48 PM
Post by: trackers888 on Mar 05, 2008 at 02:38 PM
hello good morning mga bosing tanong lo lang kung saan makakabili ng denon avr1707 at saan ? thanks in adavance
I'm not sure kung available ang model na yan kay Jeff ng TW. Better PM him.
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=60748.2430
Post by: flak-jacket on Mar 05, 2008 at 03:00 PM
hello good morning mga bosing tanong lo lang kung saan makakabili ng denon avr1707 at saan ? thanks in adavance
i think 1708 na ang available ngayon, or check na lang if TW & S&S still has some stocks of the 1707. :)
Post by: Weng! on Mar 06, 2008 at 11:00 AM
i am using a jvc dvd player (yung mga bundled ng crt tv) connected via component to a denon 2308 receiver. the denon is equipped with faroudja chip that can upscale to 720p and 1080p. will it be just a waste of money if i upgrade my dvd to the likes of pioneer dv600 to make use of the HDMI output? the denon will just pass thru the signal if the input is HDMI. i don't like to gamble buying a new player if the video upscaler of the denon is more superior than the pio dv600.
my jvc is old na kasi and won't play those new video formats available today sa web. but the unit still works fine. di nga lang mag match tingnan dahil luma na;D .
will be getting an HDTV soon so i need some inputs from you all.
TIA ;)
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 06, 2008 at 01:12 PM
mga denon peeps,
i am using a jvc dvd player (yung mga bundled ng crt tv) connected via component to a denon 2308 receiver. the denon is equipped with faroudja chip that can upscale to 720p and 1080p. will it be just a waste of money if i upgrade my dvd to the likes of pioneer dv600 to make use of the HDMI output? the denon will just pass thru the signal if the input is HDMI. i don't like to gamble buying a new player if the video upscaler of the denon is more superior than the pio dv600.
my jvc is old na kasi and won't play those new video formats available today sa web. but the unit still works fine. di nga lang mag match tingnan dahil luma na;D .
will be getting an HDTV soon so i need some inputs from you all.
TIA ;)
I think double upscaling is not advisable, based on what I read. I think your older DVDp will do fine.
Post by: Weng! on Mar 07, 2008 at 02:47 AM
I think double upscaling is not advisable, based on what I read. I think your older DVDp will do fine.
thanks matz ;)
Post by: highwayman on Mar 08, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Post by: eksi on Mar 09, 2008 at 09:06 AM
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mga denon peeps,
i am using a jvc dvd player (yung mga bundled ng crt tv) connected via component to a denon 2308 receiver. the denon is equipped with faroudja chip that can upscale to 720p and 1080p. will it be just a waste of money if i upgrade my dvd to the likes of pioneer dv600 to make use of the HDMI output? the denon will just pass thru the signal if the input is HDMI. i don't like to gamble buying a new player if the video upscaler of the denon is more superior than the pio dv600.
just a clarification: does this mean that denon 2308 upscales signal from outside device (standard DVD player) from 480i/p to 720p/1080p via component? this is gray to me...
Post by: Lancito on Mar 09, 2008 at 09:57 AM
just a clarification: does this mean that denon 2308 upscales signal from outside device (standard DVD player) from 480i/p to 720p/1080p via component? this is gray to me...
What he means is his dvd player is connected to the 2308 via component and the 2308 connected to the tv via hdmi. Therefore, upscaling is possible via hdmi.
Post by: Weng! on Mar 09, 2008 at 10:42 AM
just a clarification: does this mean that denon 2308 upscales signal from outside device (standard DVD player) from 480i/p to 720p/1080p via component? this is gray to me...
that's right. the denon 2308 will upscale composite, s-video and component input to 720p/1080i & 1080p using the built-in faroudja processor. the only gripe is when you feed the 2308 with HDMI, it will only pass-thru the signal thus only using the upscaler of the dvd.
Post by: eksi on Mar 09, 2008 at 08:03 PM
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that's right. the denon 2308 will upscale composite, s-video and component input to 720p/1080i & 1080p using the built-in faroudja processor. the only gripe is when you feed the 2308 with HDMI, it will only pass-thru the signal thus only using the upscaler of the dvd.
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What he means is his dvd player is connected to the 2308 via component and the 2308 connected to the tv via hdmi. Therefore, upscaling is possible via hdmi.
ok pala tong 2308.... what's the reason kaya behind on non-upscale hdmi input?
Post by: mjct6210 on Mar 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 14, 2008 at 01:30 PM
I think double upscaling is not advisable, based on what I read. I think your older DVDp will do fine.
Gnew, last night I was testing my AVR with upscaler and the best results were achieved when I did not upscale using my DVD player. Double upscaling produced less than favourable results so I fed my receiver 480i only.
what if already have the dv600 a panasonic 50" pv70 an the 2808? what would be better? to connect my dv 600 directly via hdmi to the tv or make it pass through the 2808?
Make it pass through the 2808, the faroudja will improve the pic quality. It did for my Onkyo 705 w/ faroudja.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2008 at 01:45 PM
guys newbie question. just got the 2808. 2.0 speakers muna. anu ba dapat value ng crossover freq? how do i configure the denon 2808 to use 2 speakers lang muna?
The crossover in the receiver divides audio signals between the main speakers and the subwoofer. Since you don't have a subwoofer, the crossover setting is useless.
What you should do is as follows:
1. Go to the set-up menu and indicate that you are using only 2 speakers.
2. Set these speakers to "Large."
This way, the receiver will know that you have only 2 speakers and will send signals only to these speakers.
Post by: mjct6210 on Mar 16, 2008 at 06:10 PM
Gnew, last night I was testing my AVR with upscaler and the best results were achieved when I did not upscale using my DVD player. Double upscaling produced less than favourable results so I fed my receiver 480i only.
Make it pass through the 2808, the faroudja will improve the pic quality. It did for my Onkyo 705 w/ faroudja.
Sir Matz,
parang nabasa ko sa ibang thread na di advisable ang double upscaling? db may upscaling to 1080p ang pioneer dv600? if so paano madedeactivate un kung i connect ko via hdmi ng denon 2808 ung pio dv600 and hdmi out ng 2808 sa tv?
and also i read na may burn-in period ang mga receivers at speakers. how long ba ito? wag muna daw i high volume and receiver at speakers.
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 17, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Sir Matz,
parang nabasa ko sa ibang thread na di advisable ang double upscaling? db may upscaling to 1080p ang pioneer dv600? if so paano madedeactivate un kung i connect ko via hdmi ng denon 2808 ung pio dv600 and hdmi out ng 2808 sa tv?
and also i read na may burn-in period ang mga receivers at speakers. how long ba ito? wag muna daw i high volume and receiver at speakers.
Speaker break in: yes, but receivers, I dont notice any need. 100 hrs is ok for speakers. But I followed this for my Velodyne CHT12r but 100 hrs wasnt enough. I heard it smoothen on my 3rd month of use.
I also read from other internet articles about double upscaling. In my case, it did not work well with my Onkyo 875 till I just fed it 480i. It was ok with my Onkyo 705 though, but the Faroudja upscaling of my Onkyo 705 was a different one compared to the 875. I am unsure if the Denons use the same faroudja chip.
You only need to set the pio 600 to 480i. Try w/c one looks better, 480i or upscaled 720p passing through the Faroudja of your Denon, or just 720p/1080p direct to your monitor
Post by: mjct6210 on Mar 17, 2008 at 01:35 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 17, 2008 at 02:01 PM
Thanks Sir Matz. I try ko nga. So ung sa speakers na 100 hours break-in or burn in period di pwede malakas ang volume? 20db and max ko ngayon (malakas na for movies but for music mejo mahina). does it mean magaantay ako ng 100 hours bago pwede talagang malakas ang volume?
The volume levels between HT and Music are different, check the materials you are playing... IMHO ;D ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 17, 2008 at 05:25 PM
Thanks Sir Matz. I try ko nga. So ung sa speakers na 100 hours break-in or burn in period di pwede malakas ang volume? 20db and max ko ngayon (malakas na for movies but for music mejo mahina). does it mean magaantay ako ng 100 hours bago pwede talagang malakas ang volume?
Loudness should be reasonable enough for the cones to move around. If the volume is too low then the cones might not even be moving to be burned in. You usually wait for the 100 hours to hear if the speakers will sound better (mids, highs bass), if you want to crank it to reasonable levels its ok. But if too loud & distorted, damage may occur. Beware of driving weak amplifiers to such levels.
Post by: Weng! on Mar 21, 2008 at 07:32 AM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9648740#post9648740
Post by: Nemesis91 on Mar 28, 2008 at 12:15 PM
Denon 1508 - php23,000 less 20% cash
Post by: iiinas on Mar 29, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Inventory Sale
Denon 1508 - php23,000 less 20% cash
sayang, good buy ito ah. hdmi 1.3a pa.
bili na! ;D
Post by: Trig on Apr 09, 2008 at 02:36 PM
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So I guess no choice ako to by a silver. Pupunta ako ng US w/in the yr kaya lang mahirap magbitbit ng 30lbs + potential problems kpg nasira yung unit. Nakakapanghinayang lng talaga ang laki ng price diff ng receivers dun :'(
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Post by: fred_hika on May 24, 2008 at 08:32 PM
i tried several suking tindahan if 1907 still available & all of them told me wala n daw, available daw un 1508 (19.5k) may pre-out ba ito and ok dn kaya ang sa 9.1 combo?
Post by: eksi on May 24, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Wala po pre-out yung 1508. 1908 yata ang sunod na model na may pre-out, not sure if 1708 meron.
guys
i tried several suking tindahan if 1907 still available & all of them told me wala n daw, available daw un 1508 (19.5k) may pre-out ba ito and ok dn kaya ang sa 9.1 combo?
Post by: fred_hika on May 25, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Wala na po available sa stores nung "07"series, series"08" na ang available.
Wala po pre-out yung 1508. 1908 yata ang sunod na model na may pre-out, not sure if 1708 meron.
tnx sa info eksi, qoute ng 1908 28k cash
Post by: eksi on May 25, 2008 at 10:55 AM
tnx sa info eksi, qoute ng 1908 28k cash
Your very welcome fred_hika!
Post by: JAQY888 on Jun 04, 2008 at 05:48 AM
The release line-up and pricing is as follows:
August
UK prices US prices
* Denon AVR-1509 ----- £280
* Denon AVR-1709 ----- £350
* Denon AVR-1909 ----- £450 ----- $650
* Denon AVR-2309 ----- £600 ----- $850
September
UK price US price
* Denon AVR-2809 ----- £800 ----- $1,200
The entry-level, AVR-1509 and AVR-1709 models are steps up from the equivalent models in Denon's '08 range - adding more channels, power and HDMI inputs (up to three in the case of the '1709) - but buyers looking for HD Audio decoding will be most tempted by the Denon AVR-1090 upwards.
The AVR-1909 handles all the HD Audio formats, plus offers 1080p Faroudja video upscaling, component video conversion, three HDMI inputs, HDMI Auto Lip Sync, Pure Direct audio option (for stereo amplification) and on-screen display set-up. It's a 7.1 channel design, with 90W per channel power output.
The AVR-2309 and AVR-2809, meanwhile, both add a fourth HDMI input, plus an extra power transformer (making three in total; the rest of the '09 range boast two).
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/denon-AVR-2309.jpg) --- AVR2309
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/DenonAVR2809CI.jpg) --- AVR2809CI
The AVR-2309 offers 100W per channel, whereas the AVR-2809 offers 115W, plus a range of custom-install-friendly features - including support for up to three zones, plus a learning remote (WHATHIFI.COM)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 04, 2008 at 07:12 AM
Post by: pchin on Jun 04, 2008 at 07:35 AM
DENON UPDATES ITS AVR LINE-UP
The release line-up and pricing is as follows:
September
UK price US price
* Denon AVR-2809 ----- £800 ----- $1,200
A welcoming news....something to look forward. :)
Post by: threadlock on Jun 04, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 04, 2008 at 11:40 AM
DENON UPDATES ITS AVR LINE-UP
The release line-up and pricing is as follows:
August
UK prices US prices
* Denon AVR-1509 ----- £280
* Denon AVR-1709 ----- £350
* Denon AVR-1909 ----- £450 ----- $650
* Denon AVR-2309 ----- £600 ----- $850
September
UK price US price
* Denon AVR-2809 ----- £800 ----- $1,200
The entry-level, AVR-1509 and AVR-1709 models are steps up from the equivalent models in Denon's '08 range - adding more channels, power and HDMI inputs (up to three in the case of the '1709) - but buyers looking for HD Audio decoding will be most tempted by the Denon AVR-1090 upwards.
The AVR-1909 handles all the HD Audio formats, plus offers 1080p Faroudja video upscaling, component video conversion, three HDMI inputs, HDMI Auto Lip Sync, Pure Direct audio option (for stereo amplification) and on-screen display set-up. It's a 7.1 channel design, with 90W per channel power output.
The AVR-2309 and AVR-2809, meanwhile, both add a fourth HDMI input, plus an extra power transformer (making three in total; the rest of the '09 range boast two).
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/denon-AVR-2309.jpg) --- AVR2309
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/DenonAVR2809CI.jpg) --- AVR2809CI
The AVR-2309 offers 100W per channel, whereas the AVR-2809 offers 115W, plus a range of custom-install-friendly features - including support for up to three zones, plus a learning remote (WHATHIFI.COM)
Sir, I see so many new receiver models from thread to thread being posted by you.
I smell SARS. ;) :) ;D >:D
One of these receivers will surely grace your setup one of these days. :)
Post by: Trig on Jun 04, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Post by: JAQY888 on Jun 04, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Sir, I see so many new receiver models from thread to thread being posted by you.
I smell SARS. ;) :) ;D >:D
One of these receivers will surely grace your setup one of these days. :)
hahahah. Musta na bro Matz?
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Hahahaha - may post ka dun sa Onkyo thread - ngayon naman sa Denon thread.......mukang may naaamoy ako ah :D ;D Mukang nag re-research ka ata ah - hehehehehehe :D ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 04, 2008 at 12:27 PM
hahahaha. Musta na bro Matz?
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Post by: JhunDV on Jun 06, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 06, 2008 at 01:20 PM
Planning to buy a 2308 to replace my old reliable Onkyo 494. Do you think there'll be big improvement in my DVD/CD/DVD-A/SACD playing? My set-up consists of Mission M72/M7C1/M70 and USAudio 512, Pioneer DVD/DVD-A/SACD player and Panasonic TH42PV70. Any suggestions in setting-up 2308 for my gears?
I used to own that combo (Onkyo 494, Mission M72, etc.) for my bedroom setup. Its a great combination/match!
Big improvement. I think: OF COURSE! :)
Post by: john5479 on Jun 06, 2008 at 09:33 PM
Post by: JhunDV on Jun 10, 2008 at 04:10 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Mahina yung center channel ng Denon compared to my Onkyo 494. Tinaasan ko na yung channel level to +7 pero parang pigil pa rin yung dialogues. May settings pa ba na pwede i-tweak para lumabas na maganda yung dialogues? All other channels sound great, btw. :)
There's something wrong. Have you used the Auto-setup with Audyssey MultEQ?
Post by: JhunDV on Jun 10, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 05:21 PM
I've used Audyssey setup pero -4 level pa yung initial center setting na binigay. precise naman yung setting nya ng distances pero di nya madetect subwoofer ko so manual set ko na lang sub. May Phase error nung una yung center kaya pinagpalit ko yung wire, paulit-ulit yung setup ko then nag-Phase error na naman yung center. May setting kaya sa equalizer para mag-open talaga yung sound sa center at hindi parang pigil? Thanks! :)
Ano location ng center speaker mo? Nasa loob ng shelf na medyo mababa? Better kung nakalabas sya and a little slanted towards the ears of the main listener, after which you need to do Audyssey calibration again.
Regarding phase errors, if you are sure that the phase is correct, just skip it. It's not a problem.
It's impossible that it doesn't detect the sub. Do you hear the chirps from the sub when you do the Audyssey calibration? Maybe you should increase the gain of the sub (yung nasa likod nya) kasi baka nasa "auto on" sya and masyadong mahina signal kaya d sya umaandar. It's a very big problem if Audyssey doesn't detect the sub, because the biggest corrections that Audyssey makes are on the sub. After the sub is detected, you should set all speakers to "small".
You can't manually adjust the equalizer. If you do that, you negate all the Audyssey settings, and they are much more detailed than a manual calibration. The only thing you can do is to adjust the level of the center channel (as you have done). I suspect the problem is the position of the center speaker.
Post by: JhunDV on Jun 12, 2008 at 05:52 PM
Post by: JT on Jun 22, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Post by: mholtz2000 on Jun 24, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Hmm, AVR-1909 seems to be ok for my next upgrade. Hope it comes sooner that scheduled.
those who are interested to DENON AVC-A1SR, im selling my DENON AVC-A1SR. original price 220k i selling nowfor only 90k with complete acc. no damage no scratches. malinis. open to see in actual
Post by: Lancito on Jun 27, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 27, 2008 at 11:25 AM
Post by: Lancito on Jun 27, 2008 at 02:31 PM
Rarely. Its for brightly recorded source material and I rarely come across such with DVD's.
Thanks Matt. Other Denon users say otherwise.
Post by: cybermms on Jul 12, 2008 at 07:52 AM
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=81006.0
Post by: kulimo on Jul 18, 2008 at 09:35 PM
http://www.usa.denon.com (http://www.usa.denon.com)
Post by: JT on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:41 PM
Hmm, AVR-1909 seems to be ok for my next upgrade. Hope it comes sooner that scheduled.
Read the WHAT HI-FI review for this model and got 5 stars.
Looks promising and Im targetting this for my next upgrade. Any idea when it will be available???
Post by: brogger on Jul 30, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Post by: blackie on Jul 31, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Post by: lrdcly on Jul 31, 2008 at 10:54 PM
im planning to pair it with wharfe speakers.. ok kaya kalabasan?
Post by: blackie on Aug 01, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Cheers,
Black
Post by: JT on Aug 02, 2008 at 04:24 PM
Post by: milken on Aug 02, 2008 at 08:22 PM
Denon 1909 now available at 750sgd (23k pesos) here in SG. Im planning to get next weekend ...
Wow. the price is not bad. It would be nice if you could give us feedback of its performance. :)
Post by: lakambini on Aug 04, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Post by: JT on Aug 04, 2008 at 11:56 AM
W O W , a Denon 1909 at 23k ! This will definitely beat the onkyo 606. Will also get one once I get a chance to go to Makati ( am from the province kasi). Ask ko lang is the 1909 has pre-amp outputs?
Sorry to burst the bubble. This pricing is from DENON Singapore.
Post by: blackie on Aug 04, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Post by: JT on Aug 04, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Too good to be true ;D
well, it is true. Mura ang presyo electonics (for most of the items) dito sa Singapore. Halos half the price dyan.
Post by: dyerds on Aug 04, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Denon 1909 now available at 750sgd (23k pesos) here in SG. Im planning to get next weekend ...
Sir pa-check naman ng 2308 and 2808 diyan sa SG tutal bibili ka naman ng 1909. Pasuyo lang. ;D
Btw, is there any significant difference between 1908 and 1909?
Post by: ryn0128 on Aug 06, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Too good to be true ;D
Too good to upgrade! Kyaw! Kyaw!
Post by: cousin skeeter on Aug 06, 2008 at 07:08 PM
Sorry to burst the bubble. This pricing is from DENON Singapore.
Sir,
Ive a friend in Singapore willing to purchase and ship for me but he's not familiar with the stores. Do you have the addresses of the stores that are often the lowest in pricing? Thanks!
Post by: JT on Aug 06, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Sir,
Ive a friend in Singapore willing to purchase and ship for me but he's not familiar with the stores. Do you have the addresses of the stores that are often the lowest in pricing? Thanks!
Ask him to contact me at 9362-8444. Baka maka-discount ng malaki pag sabay kaming bibili.
Post by: comet on Aug 14, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Ask ko lang is the 1909 has pre-amp outputs?
i think the 1909 only has subwoofer pre-out.
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 15, 2008 at 12:00 PM
i think the 1909 only has subwoofer pre-out.
hehehe....I think most of the current AVReceivers have a sub-woofer pre-out.....some actually have two....like the mid to high-end Yamaha receivers..... ;)
But for the other 5, 6 or 7 channels, most of the receivers only have these features on the higher models and not into their entry level model....except maybe for Marantz.... :)
Post by: lrdcly on Aug 28, 2008 at 09:47 AM
thanks!
Post by: Weng! on Aug 29, 2008 at 05:31 AM
Sir pa-check naman ng 2308 and 2808 diyan sa SG tutal bibili ka naman ng 1909. Pasuyo lang. ;D
Btw, is there any significant difference between 1908 and 1909?
got my 2308 last oct 2007 from hongkong for only 27k pesos equivalent. most probably it is cheaper now coz of the recent release of the xx09 models in the market
Post by: ASuL on Sep 02, 2008 at 09:55 AM
1908
1909
how would you compare this to a second hand yamaha 659. more of HT than audio. planning to use with wharfedale 9.5s or monitor audio br2. thanks!
Post by: lrdcly on Sep 18, 2008 at 05:42 PM
Post by: raptor on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:36 PM
I'm about to replace my old Onkyo 601 with either a 606 or 705. I was at Park Square earlier when I chance by a Denon AVR reseller ... I'm doing some research and would need some help from Denon users in the thread. I'd just like to ask if Denon AVR's are a good match for Dali speakers - I'm using Dali Concept 6 floor standers, and also planning to get a Dali Concept center to replace my old Infinity VH1 center speaker.
I would also appreciate feedbacks from those who made comparisons of the Denon 1909 or 1908 with Onkyo 606 and 705.
Thanks in advance guys :)
Post by: raptor on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:14 PM
The only caveat is the remote control and the user manual - both are not user friendly compared to the Onkyo's. Another thing is that the 1909's sold in the US comes with two remote controllers, the models sold here only comes with one RC.
Post by: brogger on Oct 03, 2008 at 10:26 AM
My requirements are as follows;
1. With Pre-outs (all channels)
2. Audessy Dynamic Volume & Eq
3. atleast 75 or higher watts
I hope you can make a detailed review of the 1909.
This will be my first setup so I want to get it right the first time, mid level setup would be just right.
Im planning to get the Dali Ikon 6 but what are you using for center?
TIA
Post by: raptor on Oct 03, 2008 at 01:40 PM
Sir Raptor, just like you I made a shortlist...my choices are the 706 & 1909.
My requirements are as follows;
1. With Pre-outs (all channels)
2. Audessy Dynamic Volume & Eq
3. atleast 75 or higher watts
I hope you can make a detailed review of the 1909.
This will be my first setup so I want to get it right the first time, mid level setup would be just right.
Im planning to get the Dali Ikon 6 but what are you using for center?
TIA
I'll try my best to write a review after I completed my setup, probably next week - i've been out of town this week and did not have a chance to properly setup my gears. My review would be basically a comparison with my previous receivers/amplifiers - i've used a kenwood (integrated stereo amp pa), a pioneer, and two onkyo's for the past 15 years or probably more.
Regarding your requirements, the Denon 1909 meets your requirements 2&3, but not the first one. Denon 1909's pre-out is only for the sub-woofer ... just wondering why you need the pre-outs for all channels as you mentioned that this is only your first setup - in my case, I used to have separates (during the kenwood days) and I must admit that that was the best setup that I had in terms of stereo music sound quality, but the AV Receivers I've used so far had been sufficient all-rounders (music, radio, and movies) delivering superb quality in medium sized room.
By the way, I'm using Dali Concept 6 floor standers for my fronts and planning to buy the Concept Center speaker ... initially I'll be using my old Infinity Video-1 center speaker and another old pair of Bose model 100 rear speakers... I do not have a subwoofer yet - sold my Velodyne VX-10 a few months back to another pdvd member (back then, I was thinking that I do not need a sub-woofer since I seldom use my AVR for HT ...now that I have a new AVR, i'm itching to get another one ;D)
Post by: raptor on Oct 13, 2008 at 09:42 PM
Speakers - Dali Concept 6 (Fronts), Dali Concept Center, Bose Model 100 (surround speakers), no subwoofer for now
Display - Panasonic 42PV8
Sources - Pioneer DV400 and Popcorn Hour A100
My observations:
I mentioned on my first post that my first impressions on sound quality were impressive - this was when I only installed the front speakers (without any tweak on the setup) and tried to listen to few cd music and fm radio. My point of comparison was the Onkyo 601 that I replaced.
After setting up the 5.0 speakers and using Audyssey for auto setup, my first impression that it is impressive turned to WOW! Never had my system sounding this good (music listening and movie viewing). I can say that the Dali speakers may probably be a better match for the Denon than the Onkyo, but the big difference was likely the Audyssey feature - there's a very noticeable improvement after I ran the Audyssey auto setup.
On the downside, I really don't like the remote control and the user manuals - both are not user friendly ... Denon really made a mess on the remote control ... this is the first time that i saw a remote control with control buttons on both sides (front and back) .... anyways, this should not be a reason not to get the unit - the performance far outweigh the shortcomings on the remote contol and manual.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 13, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I finally setup my Denon 1909 last weekend. I have the following connected -
Speakers - Dali Concept 6 (Fronts), Dali Concept Center, Bose Model 100 (surround speakers), no subwoofer for now
Display - Panasonic 42PV8
Sources - Pioneer DV400 and Popcorn Hour A100
My observations:
I mentioned on my first post that my first impressions on sound quality were impressive - this was when I only installed the front speakers (without any tweak on the setup) and tried to listen to few cd music and fm radio. My point of comparison was the Onkyo 601 that I replaced.
After setting up the 5.0 speakers and using Audyssey for auto setup, my first impression that it is impressive turned to WOW! Never had my system sounding this good (music listening and movie viewing). I can say that the Dali speakers may probably be a better match for the Denon than the Onkyo, but the big difference was likely the Audyssey feature - there's a very noticeable improvement after I ran the Audyssey auto setup.
On the downside, I really don't like the remote control and the user manuals - both are not user friendly ... Denon really made a mess on the remote control ... this is the first time that i saw a remote control with control buttons on both sides (front and back) .... anyways, this should not be a reason not to get the unit - the performance far outweigh the shortcomings on the remote contol and manual.
How do you find the Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Volume feature? I'm really curious to get feedback on this. Thanks.
Post by: rockster on Oct 20, 2008 at 04:11 PM
Post by: jojitv on Oct 24, 2008 at 07:17 AM
Post by: blued888 on Oct 24, 2008 at 08:06 AM
How much is the 1909? I'm planning to upgrade in the next few months and this is one of my options.
I think it's around 30k to 32k.
Post by: jojitv on Oct 24, 2008 at 09:31 AM
I think it's around 30k to 32k.
Thank you sir. I'm choosing between the 1909 and the HK 245. It's almost at the same price range. Although I have yet to audition both :)
Post by: deo on Oct 29, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Thank you sir. I'm choosing between the 1909 and the HK 245. It's almost at the same price range. Although I have yet to audition both :)
yeahba! ;D swipe swipe! :P
Post by: avshop on Nov 03, 2008 at 09:15 PM
Post by: brogger on Nov 03, 2008 at 09:19 PM
we have the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. these are the latest models from denon. all 3 models support the HD audio formats. :)
Sir, kindly pm he prices for these avrs.
thanks
Post by: avshop on Nov 04, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Sir, kindly pm he prices for these avrs.
thanks
pm sent :)
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 04, 2008 at 11:52 AM
we have the denon 1909, 2309 and 2809. these are the latest models from denon. all 3 models support the HD audio formats. :)
pls pm me the prices
Post by: blackie on Nov 04, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Do I smell an upgrade?
;D ;D ;D
Post by: avshop on Nov 04, 2008 at 01:05 PM
pls pm me the prices
pm sent. :)
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 04, 2008 at 01:19 PM
Oyoyoyoyoy!
Do I smell an upgrade?
;D ;D ;D
nagtatanong lang...kaw naman! heheh
Post by: jojitv on Nov 04, 2008 at 03:36 PM
nagtatanong lang...kaw naman! heheh
Naku, ganyan din ako, patanong tanong lang. Biglang napabili na. ;D >:D
Post by: blackie on Nov 04, 2008 at 03:39 PM
Post by: wanderer on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:40 PM
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR3808CI_Front_G.gif)
AVR-3808CI: 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH A/V Home Theater/MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking
Did a browse over some online reviews/feedbacks. Would appreciate fellow PDVD'ers feedback. TIA.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 04, 2008 at 05:17 PM
Any feedbacks from owners of this:
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR3808CI_Front_G.gif)
AVR-3808CI: 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH A/V Home Theater/MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking
Did a browse over some online reviews/feedbacks. Would appreciate fellow PDVD'ers feedback. TIA.
Excellent receiver. In my experience, its advantages:
1. GUI - can't live without it
2. Audyssey MultEQ XT - ditto
3. Very flexible - you can have 2 sets of side speakers + rears kaya nagiging 9.1
4. Very good DACs - excellent sound
5. Good power amps - for most systems, you don't need external power amps (although of course, it has pre-outs)
6. Extremely flexible as a video/audio hub (a lot of assignable inputs + you can rename the inputs)
7. Can internally decode hi-def audio
It normally retails at $1700 but with a little research and luck, you can get it at less than $1100 in the US. I am not sure what the price is locally.
Post by: wanderer on Nov 05, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Excellent receiver. In my experience, its advantages:
1. GUI - can't live without it
2. Audyssey MultEQ XT - ditto
3. Very flexible - you can have 2 sets of side speakers + rears kaya nagiging 9.1
4. Very good DACs - excellent sound
5. Good power amps - for most systems, you don't need external power amps (although of course, it has pre-outs)
6. Extremely flexible as a video/audio hub (a lot of assignable inputs + you can rename the inputs)
7. Can internally decode hi-def audio
It normally retails at $1700 but with a little research and luck, you can get it at less than $1100 in the US. I am not sure what the price is locally.
appreciate the feedback sir streetsmart.
this avr is power-packed with so many features. one of my concerns is how user-friendly is it for a first time avr buyer like myself. how useful are some of the features i.e. network connectivity for firmware upgrades, media streaming, etc.?
btw sir streetmart, can i ask what things you don't like about the 3808CI? thanks.
Post by: TOY 01 on Nov 05, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Any feedbacks from owners of this:CNET REVIEW:
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AVR-3808CI: 7.1 CH/5.1+2 CH A/V Home Theater/MultiMedia Multi-Source/Zone Receiver with Networking
Did a browse over some online reviews/feedbacks. Would appreciate fellow PDVD'ers feedback. TIA.
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/denon-avr-3808ci/4505-6466_7-32553611.html?tag=bubbl_1
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2008 at 05:06 PM
appreciate the feedback sir streetsmart.
this avr is power-packed with so many features. one of my concerns is how user-friendly is it for a first time avr buyer like myself. how useful are some of the features i.e. network connectivity for firmware upgrades, media streaming, etc.?
btw sir streetmart, can i ask what things you don't like about the 3808CI? thanks.
Given its many features, I believe it is user-friendly. However, since it is inherently complicated, magulo pa rin for a first-time AVR buyer. It may take you several weeks before makabisado mo sya.
I haven't done the firmware upgrade. Takot ako kasi if anything goes wrong, you need to send it to Denon. Wala naman ako problem. I don't use the media streaming either -- just use it for HT.
It runs a bit hot so I put a laptop fan on top of it. With that small fan, ok na sya.
Post by: darkwing on Nov 05, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Post by: wanderer on Nov 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Given its many features, I believe it is user-friendly. However, since it is inherently complicated, magulo pa rin for a first-time AVR buyer. It may take you several weeks before makabisado mo sya.
I haven't done the firmware upgrade. Takot ako kasi if anything goes wrong, you need to send it to Denon. Wala naman ako problem. I don't use the media streaming either -- just use it for HT.
It runs a bit hot so I put a laptop fan on top of it. With that small fan, ok na sya.
Appreciate the input Sir. Many thanks.
@TOY01: i'm always a sucker for cnet's reviews. now i'm over at the avs forum starting on the 300+ page thread about the 3808CI ;D
Post by: moks on Nov 10, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Denon 1509
Mission MV 4 (Front)
Mission MC-C (Center)
Mission MV-2 (Surround)
Post by: avshop on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:34 AM
ok ba ang matching sa ganitong setup:
Denon 1509
Mission MV 4 (Front)
Mission MC-C (Center)
Mission MV-2 (Surround)
the denons and mission are a good match. though if i were you i'd save up and get the 1909 for you to enjoy the new HD audio formats. we can offer you a good deal on the 1909, 2309 and 2809 models. :)
Post by: moks on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:05 PM
Post by: wanderer on Nov 10, 2008 at 03:51 PM
the denons and mission are a good match. though if i were you i'd save up and get the 1909 for you to enjoy the new HD audio formats. we can offer you a good deal on the 1909, 2309 and 2809 models. :)
Can you PM me also your price for the 2809, plus the 3808 if you have one. Thanks.
Post by: avshop on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:30 PM
ok pa din ba ang denon 3802 na model? may nagbebenta kasi sa akin. match kaya ito sa mission na mv series?
the 3802 models is a very good receiver. kulang lang yan ng mga new inputs like hdmi as well as won't be able to decode HD audio but it should sound good with the mission mv series. :)
Post by: avshop on Nov 10, 2008 at 05:33 PM
Can you PM me also your price for the 2809, plus the 3808 if you have one. Thanks.
pm sent :)
Post by: nogie on Nov 12, 2008 at 08:51 PM
1. Not willing to spend over a thousand dollars for Denon 3809 that can decode lossless audio, I don't mind at all because i'm using a PS3 as BD player. Bought this receiver for USD800.
2.It also features HD connectivity like HDMI (1.1a) 2in/1out, can upconvert video signals, has audyssey multieQT(6 zones), has basically all the features of 3808 except for HD decoding & higher version of HDMI 1.3a but half the price.
3. My impression for higher end models has the capability to "DRIVE HARD" my Wharfes 9series compared to Onkyo 605 w/c sounded a lame duck receiver(sorry) when it was paired with the wharfes.
4. Finally, sana nagamot na yong curiosity ko na mas maganda tumunog mga higher models compared to entry to mid-models..
For now, hindi ko pa na-set up kasi yong banana plug ko ay twin at hindi pasok. Hindi pala pwede yon, you need the individual plugs like the one ToYO1 was selling.
Cheers!!! ;D
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Post by: jojitv on Nov 13, 2008 at 07:38 AM
Finally! My brand new Denon 3806 has arrived!! Replacement of my Onkyo 605 sold here 2 months ago. Below are my considerations why I chose this receiver over other Denon's current models & brands despite it has been phased-out already. Hope I made the right decision. ;D
1. Not willing to spend over a thousand dollars for Denon 3809 that can decode lossless audio, I don't mind at all because i'm using a PS3 as BD player. Bought this receiver for USD800.
2.It also features HD connectivity like HDMI (1.1a) 2in/1out, can upconvert video signals, has audyssey multieQT(6 zones), has basically all the features of 3808 except for HD decoding & higher version of HDMI 1.3a but half the price.
3. My impression for higher end models has the capability to "DRIVE HARD" my Wharfes 9series compared to Onkyo 605 w/c sounded a lame duck receiver(sorry) when it was paired with the wharfes.
4. Finally, sana nagamot na yong curiosity ko na mas maganda tumunog mga higher models compared to entry to mid-models..
For now, hindi ko pa na-set up kasi yong banana plug ko ay twin at hindi pasok. Hindi pala pwede yon, you need the individual plugs like the one ToYO1 was selling.
Cheers!!! ;D
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Congrats on your new receiver sir. :)
Post by: nogie on Nov 13, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Thanks Sir! ;)
Post by: wanderer on Nov 13, 2008 at 01:46 PM
Finally! My brand new Denon 3806 has arrived!! Replacement of my Onkyo 605 sold here 2 months ago. Below are my considerations why I chose this receiver over other Denon's current models & brands despite it has been phased-out already. Hope I made the right decision. ;D
1. Not willing to spend over a thousand dollars for Denon 3809 that can decode lossless audio, I don't mind at all because i'm using a PS3 as BD player. Bought this receiver for USD800.
2.It also features HD connectivity like HDMI (1.1a) 2in/1out, can upconvert video signals, has audyssey multieQT(6 zones), has basically all the features of 3808 except for HD decoding & higher version of HDMI 1.3a but half the price.
3. My impression for higher end models has the capability to "DRIVE HARD" my Wharfes 9series compared to Onkyo 605 w/c sounded a lame duck receiver(sorry) when it was paired with the wharfes.
4. Finally, sana nagamot na yong curiosity ko na mas maganda tumunog mga higher models compared to entry to mid-models..
For now, hindi ko pa na-set up kasi yong banana plug ko ay twin at hindi pasok. Hindi pala pwede yon, you need the individual plugs like the one ToYO1 was selling.
Cheers!!! ;D
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congrats on your new denon avr sir nogie. do leave some feedback once you've set it up with your wharfes. thanks for the input (very helpful for would-be-denon avr buyers) ;).
Post by: nogie on Nov 13, 2008 at 02:03 PM
congrats on your new denon avr sir nogie. do leave some feedback once you've set it up with your wharfes. thanks for the input (very helpful for would-be-denon avr buyers) ;).
I will give feedback Bro! Am really excited last night to set-it-up, kaya lang inisip ko work tomorrow at baka mapuyat at dina makapasok. I'll do it this coming weekend. :D
Post by: moks on Nov 19, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Post by: avshop on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM
Post by: dong on Nov 27, 2008 at 07:51 AM
What is your exact address? ???
Post by: avshop on Nov 27, 2008 at 09:16 AM
What is your exact address? ???
unit 205 amaremca bldg. 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city. just let me know a day in advance when you plan to go. or you can pick up the unit at my house in san lorenzo, village makati. :)
Post by: disturbed on Nov 30, 2008 at 02:10 PM
Post by: avshop on Nov 30, 2008 at 11:54 PM
can anyone pm me the price of denon 1909?
sent you a pm. did you get it? :)
Post by: disturbed on Dec 02, 2008 at 11:06 AM
Post by: avshop on Dec 02, 2008 at 12:39 PM
yes sir I got it! thanks..na temp kasi ako sa Audyssey features..
bili ka na! very good receiver. ganda ng sound! with 1 year local warranty. :)
Post by: polgas on Dec 03, 2008 at 09:59 PM
Pa-pm rin ako ng prices. Thanks.
Post by: avshop on Dec 04, 2008 at 12:30 AM
Sir,
Pa-pm rin ako ng prices. Thanks.
sent you pm. :)
Post by: raptor on Dec 04, 2008 at 10:25 PM
bili ka na! very good receiver. ganda ng sound! with 1 year local warranty. :)
yup, ganda talaga ... i've been using mine (1909) for a couple of months now, and i'm really amazed by the sound quality ... compared to my old AVR
Post by: moks on Dec 04, 2008 at 11:31 PM
yup, ganda talaga ... i've been using mine (1909) for a couple of months now, and i'm really amazed by the sound quality ... compared to my old AVR
What is your old AVR?
Post by: raptor on Dec 05, 2008 at 12:49 AM
What is your old AVR?
Onkyo 601
Post by: jojitv on Dec 05, 2008 at 06:03 AM
yup, ganda talaga ... i've been using mine (1909) for a couple of months now, and i'm really amazed by the sound quality ... compared to my old AVR
+1. I'm also very happy with my 1909.
Post by: disturbed on Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42 PM
Post by: jojitv on Dec 07, 2008 at 11:00 AM
sir ano po mga speakers gamit nyo sa denon 1909 nyo?bookshelves lang ba?kaya ba nila mg drive ng malaking speakers?
I'm using floorstanders, Wharfedale 8.3. Kaya po nya yung malalaking speakers. Di ko lang sure kung ok sya sa mga 4ohm na speakers.
Post by: avshop on Dec 07, 2008 at 11:50 AM
I'm using floorstanders, Wharfedale 8.3. Kaya po nya yung malalaking speakers. Di ko lang sure kung ok sya sa mga 4ohm na speakers.
it can also drive 4 ohm speakers. send me a pm if you're interested in getting one. i can give you good deals on denon receivers. :)
Post by: bongkers on Dec 08, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Post by: raptor on Dec 11, 2008 at 03:17 PM
sir ano po mga speakers gamit nyo sa denon 1909 nyo?bookshelves lang ba?kaya ba nila mg drive ng malaking speakers?
I'm using Dali Concept 6 floor standers - kayang-kaya i-drive ;D
Post by: jojitv on Dec 13, 2008 at 04:16 PM
Post by: avshop on Dec 13, 2008 at 04:53 PM
I just connected my BD player to my 1909 and when I play movies, the display shows that it's mulit-chan and the icons for the input only show 5.1? Is this normal or is there something wrong with my configuration? Thanks
what are you using to play your movies? you have to set your player to output the HD audio in bitstream format not PCM. :)
Post by: jojitv on Dec 13, 2008 at 07:38 PM
what are you using to play your movies? you have to set your player to output the HD audio in bitstream format not PCM. :)
Got it. Thanks for the help marc. ;)
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Jan 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM
First of all, happy new year! and gusto ko rin buhayin tong thread natatabunan na. hehe. anyway, i just want to say na like most of you, im very happy with my 1909. Im very impressed with its ability to maintain the presence of the surround field especially after performing the audyssey calibration. Although, the receiver's a bit safe compared to other receivers re the details, i prefer its subtlety when it comes to harsh sounds. Lastly i love its dynamic volume and eq feature. Dont have to rush to the remote to turn down the volume anymore when it comes to loud scenes in movies.
Have a question though regarding difference in volume level when accepting pcm from the source and when its the one decoding dd/dts. As a dvd player, i use the Sony DAV-DZ270. Although its intended to be an htib, use as it as my dvd player connected via hdmi to the 1909. the problem is it has internal decoder and no capability to bitstream audio to the reciever. Now, during playback ang lumalabas sa 1909 is multichannel pcm. I notice na compared to dvd's being played by ps3 (bitstream output via hdmi) mas mahina sound niya, sometimes i need to at least reach -5 to -10db para maging pasok ung volume level. Using the same dvd, but with the ps3 this time, -25 ok na. Is this normal? Or do i have to make some tweaks sa 1909? or is the difference due to the fact that when bitstreamed, the receiver does the decoding kaya mas maganda and mas malakas ang sound?
Last, what's the difference between configuring the sub to lfe vs. lfe + main. Although i prefer 2 channel stereo when listening to music, parang bitin ako sa base. M using wharfes 9.1 kasi (though i really like them kasi medyo laid back ang tunog), so may i ask what's the best configuration to maximize the capability of each channel. by the way, m using wharfe 9.1, 9cs, dfs and velo impact 10. Thank you so much and a prosperous new year to all the members of pinoydvd.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 19, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Have a question though regarding difference in volume level when accepting pcm from the source and when its the one decoding dd/dts. As a dvd player, i use the Sony DAV-DZ270. Although its intended to be an htib, use as it as my dvd player connected via hdmi to the 1909. the problem is it has internal decoder and no capability to bitstream audio to the reciever. Now, during playback ang lumalabas sa 1909 is multichannel pcm. I notice na compared to dvd's being played by ps3 (bitstream output via hdmi) mas mahina sound niya, sometimes i need to at least reach -5 to -10db para maging pasok ung volume level. Using the same dvd, but with the ps3 this time, -25 ok na. Is this normal? Or do i have to make some tweaks sa 1909? or is the difference due to the fact that when bitstreamed, the receiver does the decoding kaya mas maganda and mas malakas ang sound?
Last, what's the difference between configuring the sub to lfe vs. lfe + main. Although i prefer 2 channel stereo when listening to music, parang bitin ako sa base. M using wharfes 9.1 kasi (though i really like them kasi medyo laid back ang tunog), so may i ask what's the best configuration to maximize the capability of each channel. by the way, m using wharfe 9.1, 9cs, dfs and velo impact 10. Thank you so much and a prosperous new year to all the members of pinoydvd.
Re multi-channel input: In your system, there is clearly a difference in gain when using multi-channel vs. bitstream. I'm not sure why. Have you looked at the set-up menu of the dvd player and disabled its internal decoding, so that the AVR does the decoding?
Re sub: Firstly, set all speakers to small (no matter how big the speakers are) and set the crossover to the next step higher than what the AVR will recommend. This will cause frequencies below the crossover point to be redirected to the sub, which is a much better reproducer of bass.
Next, use LFE, not LFE+Main. LFE+Main will cause the redirected bass to be output by both the sub and speakers designated as "Large," thus doubling the bass output (not good).
Post by: eksi on Jan 19, 2009 at 02:25 PM
Last, what's the difference between configuring the sub to lfe vs. lfe + main. Although i prefer 2 channel stereo when listening to music, parang bitin ako sa base. M using wharfes 9.1 kasi (though i really like them kasi medyo laid back ang tunog), so may i ask what's the best configuration to maximize the capability of each channel. by the way, m using wharfe 9.1, 9cs, dfs and velo impact 10. Thank you so much and a prosperous new year to all the members of pinoydvd.
Bro, pag nag 2 channel stereo kayo when listening to music, naka-on ba ang sub nyo?
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 19, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Bro, pag nag 2 channel stereo kayo when listening to music, naka-on ba ang sub nyo?its best to use sub when using small bookshelf speakers since small speakers can't usually reproduce frequencies below 50hz. that way your bookshelves won't distort when low frequency signals are present in the music. for example a bass guitar played with the uppermost string (E) generates approximately 40hz, and if your bookshelf has a frequency response of 60hz-20khz you can barely hear this note. it is also a good idea to set the sub filter of your amp/processor equal or higher than the low frequency response of the satellites.
Post by: jojitv on Jan 19, 2009 at 03:06 PM
Bro, pag nag 2 channel stereo kayo when listening to music, naka-on ba ang sub nyo?
Depends on the type of music I'm listening to. :) But normally I leave it off.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 19, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Depends on the type of music I'm listening to. :) But normally I leave it off.
No matter what kind of music you listen to, it's obviously best to hear the full frequency range. That is best achieved with a combination of your main speakers + the sub (which you achieve by designating your speakers as "Small"). The split of the frequencies is determined by the crossover frequency that you set. This applies even more so to movies.
Even if you have full-range speakers, they cannot really reproduce very deep and accurate bass. Furthermore, if you let the sub handle the low frequencies, you will have more headroom for your main speakers and they will sound better. Hindi mahihirapan ang speaker and amp.
My main speakers are pretty big and can go down to below 40 hz but the system sounds much better if I set the speakers as "Small" and let the sub handle the lower frequencies. Currently, my crossover is at 100 hz (!) and the sound is pretty good. :)
Post by: oneirogmophobic on Jan 19, 2009 at 06:17 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 19, 2009 at 06:34 PM
thank you for the comments. they're very informative. my crossover frequency for the fronts are set to 80, what should be the appropriate crossover for the sub? thanks. al try to tweak the receiver later.
The sub doesn't really have a crossover, even if the Denon menu says it has one. It has a Low-Pass Filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. Always set that to 120 hz.
Take note that the bass from the LFE channel is totally different from the redirected bass coming from the other speakers. Just make sure that all speakers are set to "Small". An 80 hz crossover is a good starting point. Depending on the sub, you could go even a little higher.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 20, 2009 at 12:02 AM
A little help please... I just got a Denon last Dec. I got the 1509. Like sir Streetsmart said, it takes time before you get the right tweaks and adjustments.
I did the Audessey and it seems like the final settings on the sub is pretty soft, (meaning...not LOUD and BOOMING at all). Also, I can still hear "bass" sounds coming from my fronts...which I want to re-direct to the subs.
Btw, I have a US Audio 512 sub, and it does not sound anything like the way it did when I bought it. Kindly enlighten me please....what do I have to do to achieve all bass frequencies to be re-dorected to the sub? Also, if I want to re-run the Audessy set-up, how do I reset the current saved settings? :)
Post by: eksi on Jan 20, 2009 at 01:26 AM
No matter what kind of music you listen to, it's obviously best to hear the full frequency range. That is best achieved with a combination of your main speakers + the sub (which you achieve by designating your speakers as "Small"). The split of the frequencies is determined by the crossover frequency that you set. This applies even more so to movies.
Even if you have full-range speakers, they cannot really reproduce very deep and accurate bass. Furthermore, if you let the sub handle the low frequencies, you will have more headroom for your main speakers and they will sound better. Hindi mahihirapan ang speaker and amp.
My main speakers are pretty big and can go down to below 40 hz but the system sounds much better if I set the speakers as "Small" and let the sub handle the lower frequencies. Currently, my crossover is at 100 hz (!) and the sound is pretty good. :)
I totally agree po, turning off the sub defeats the purpose of setting the speakers to small and selecting LFE. thanks streetmart :)
Post by: eksi on Jan 20, 2009 at 01:35 AM
The sub doesn't really have a crossover, even if the Denon menu says it has one. It has a Low-Pass Filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. Always set that to 120 hz.
Take note that the bass from the LFE channel is totally different from the redirected bass coming from the other speakers. Just make sure that all speakers are set to "Small". An 80 hz crossover is a good starting point. Depending on the sub, you could go even a little higher.
ano po difference ng low-pass crossover and high-pass crossover in terms of its purpose? velodyne cht has both, selection for low-pass crossover ranges from 40hz - 120hz while high-pass crossover has 80hz and 100hz selection. what's the best high-pass and low-pass crossover for AVR speaker set-up to small and sub setting to LFE?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 20, 2009 at 07:16 AM
ano po difference ng low-pass crossover and high-pass crossover in terms of its purpose? velodyne cht has both, selection for low-pass crossover ranges from 40hz - 120hz while high-pass crossover has 80hz and 100hz selection. what's the best high-pass and low-pass crossover for AVR speaker set-up to small and sub setting to LFE?
By definition, a low-pass filter (not crossover) allows frequencies lower than the designated point to pass through. A high-pass filter is the opposite - higher frequencies pass through.
What I referred to in my previous post was the setting in the AVR, which is a low-pass filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. The settings at the sub itself are different.
The LPF in your sub will determine the maximum frequency that the sub will reproduce. Normally, this is set to the highest level and then the actual frequencies which are sent to the sub are determined by the settings in the bass management system of your AVR (basically crossover points and LPF for LFE). In your case, set it to 120 hz.
The high-pass filter that you mention sounds like an output. It sounds like the type of connection wherein you send the full signal to the sub and then hook the sub to the main speakers. Between the sub and the main speakers, the high-pass filter will be activated so you can send frequencies above either 80 hz or 100 hz. This type of connection is not used very much anymore. It's better to let the AVR handle the bass management.
Quite often, the sub has a third filter which is called a subsonic filter and is actually a high-pass filter. It will determine the lowest frequencies that the sub will reproduce. A typical subsonic filter is 35 hz or 20 hz. It basically limits the bass you can reproduce.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 20, 2009 at 07:20 AM
Hi Guys!
A little help please... I just got a Denon last Dec. I got the 1509. Like sir Streetsmart said, it takes time before you get the right tweaks and adjustments.
I did the Audessey and it seems like the final settings on the sub is pretty soft, (meaning...not LOUD and BOOMING at all). Also, I can still hear "bass" sounds coming from my fronts...which I want to re-direct to the subs.
Btw, I have a US Audio 512 sub, and it does not sound anything like the way it did when I bought it. Kindly enlighten me please....what do I have to do to achieve all bass frequencies to be re-dorected to the sub? Also, if I want to re-run the Audessy set-up, how do I reset the current saved settings? :)
After running Audyssey, set all of your speakers to "Small."
Then, go to the Manual Adjustments and the Crossover sub-menu. You will have to experiment with the crossover settings (set them at either what is recommended by the AVR or higher).
In that same Crossover menu, you will find the setting for the sub. Set it to 120 hz. That is actually the LPF for the LFE channel and it should always be set at 120 hz.
Tell us how it sounds after you do this.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 20, 2009 at 09:18 PM
After running Audyssey, set all of your speakers to "Small."
Then, go to the Manual Adjustments and the Crossover sub-menu. You will have to experiment with the crossover settings (set them at either what is recommended by the AVR or higher).
In that same Crossover menu, you will find the setting for the sub. Set it to 120 hz. That is actually the LPF for the LFE channel and it should always be set at 120 hz.
Tell us how it sounds after you do this.
Thanks for the info sir Mark! ;) I followed what you said and changed all the speakers to "small." And then I set the crossover of the sub to 120 Hz. Now, my question is:
How many Hz to I set for the rest of my speakers? :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 21, 2009 at 08:17 AM
Thanks for the info sir Mark! ;) I followed what you said and changed all the speakers to "small." And then I set the crossover of the sub to 120 Hz. Now, my question is:
How many Hz to I set for the rest of my speakers? :)
When you go to the Crossover menu in the Manual Settings, you will find that Denon has made a recommendation on the crossover point. What frequency was recommended? Normally, it's best to either accept that recommendation or raise it to the next higher frequency.
By the way, can the 1509 give a separate crossover for each speaker (Advanced option in the Crossover menu)?
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 21, 2009 at 08:19 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 21, 2009 at 09:54 AM
When you go to the Crossover menu in the Manual Settings, you will find that Denon has made a recommendation on the crossover point. What frequency was recommended? Normally, it's best to either accept that recommendation or raise it to the next higher frequency.
By the way, can the 1509 give a separate crossover for each speaker (Advanced option in the Crossover menu)?
Yes it can sir Mark! :) In the "Advanced" option, you can choose the crossover for each speaker...so what do I do? ???
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Yes it can sir Mark! :) In the "Advanced" option, you can choose the crossover for each speaker...so what do I do? ???
When you open that menu, it will have recommended crossovers for each speaker. What are the recommendations per speaker? You may accept those recommendations or you can raise each of them to the next higher frequency. You need to experiment.
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Post by: jojitv on Jan 21, 2009 at 03:27 PM
I forgot if the one I saw sa Stop, Look and Lsiten is 1909 or 1709. But it has 2 HDMI input and 1 output.
Baka 1709 yun. The 1909 has 3 inputs and 1 output.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 21, 2009 at 03:32 PM
I am assuming that the 1909 will be more expensive than the 1709.
Post by: jojitv on Jan 21, 2009 at 03:36 PM
^Baka nga. It was selling for around 20K...I guess that will also be a good indicator what model ;D
I am assuming that the 1909 will be more expensive than the 1709.
Yup, the 1909 sells for around 30-32k
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 21, 2009 at 09:09 PM
When you open that menu, it will have recommended crossovers for each speaker. What are the recommendations per speaker? You may accept those recommendations or you can raise each of them to the next higher frequency. You need to experiment.
Ok sir Mark! I will try experimenting on them. Thanks for your help! ;D
Post by: titopepe on Jan 21, 2009 at 09:58 PM
aside from hdmi input?
Post by: avshop on Jan 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM
whats the difference between 1709 and 1909?
aside from hdmi input?
the 1909 can decode dolby truehd and dts hd. the 1709 can't. :)
Post by: titopepe on Jan 22, 2009 at 01:24 AM
the 1909 can decode dolby truehd and dts hd. the 1709 can't. :)
recommended ba 1909 for me?
pioneer dv 610 and NMT lang balak ko kasi e... then ps3...
medyo na nosebleed kasi ako sa overall price ng mga gusto ko na gears e.
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 01:33 AM
recommended ba 1909 for me?
pioneer dv 610 and NMT lang balak ko kasi e... then ps3...
medyo na nosebleed kasi ako sa overall price ng mga gusto ko na gears e.
It depends on whether lossless codecs are important to you.
Yung PS3, internally dinedecode yung mga lossless, so all you need is for your AVR to accept PCM over HDMI. You don't need the AVR to do the decoding.
Post by: titopepe on Jan 22, 2009 at 01:48 AM
laymans term pls?
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 02:02 AM
hehe nosebleed papi.
laymans term pls?
Haha sorry pero yun na yung pinaka-simple na alam ko.
Maybe someone else can explain better. Antayin nalang natin. ;D
Post by: titopepe on Jan 22, 2009 at 02:11 AM
Post by: avshop on Jan 22, 2009 at 10:11 AM
meron din ba built-in eq and xover ang 1909?
it has crossover na. not sure about the equalizer. i think this is a good receiver for you. you can come over my shop and compare it to hk receivers and see which you like better. :)
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM
I currently have a component capable AVR (denon 1907) that also upscales to 720p.
It's just that I have 3 HDMI gears (PS3, DV600 and WD TV) and my display only can accommodate 2 :(
I was just thinking with the 1709 (with 2 HDMI input) I can connect the PS3 and WD TV/DV600 and have the other 1 connected to the display.
Post by: nogie on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:18 PM
It's just that I have 3 HDMI gears (PS3, DV600 and WD TV) and my display only can accommodate 2 :(
I was just thinking with the 1709 (with 2 HDMI input) I can connect the PS3 and WD TV/DV600 and have the other 1 connected to the display.
We have the same problem since I have 4 gears that i wanted to connect to my Denon 3806 (DV490, PS3, HDDVD A30, WD TV). Im hoping that it will be resolved once the HDMI input/switchers I ordered from Toy 01 will arrive. ;D ;D
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Post by: avshop on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Is it worth it to upgrade to an HDMI AVR or better wait towards the middle or end of the year?
I currently have a component capable AVR (denon 1907) that also upscales to 720p.
It's just that I have 3 HDMI gears (PS3, DV600 and WD TV) and my display only can accommodate 2 :(
I was just thinking with the 1709 (with 2 HDMI input) I can connect the PS3 and WD TV/DV600 and have the other 1 connected to the display.
if you're happy with the sound of your avr then just get the hdmi switcher. but the new 1909 and hk 255 are pretty good. :)
Post by: blued888 on Jan 22, 2009 at 12:57 PM
meron din ba built-in eq and xover ang 1909?
I think the "pogi points" of the 1909 would by the Audyssey DynamicEQ and Dynamic Volume, which enhances the sound quality when you listen below reference volumes.
Sa ibang AVR kasi when you are not approaching reference volume, the sound is not that articulate, bass is extremely toned down, etc.
Post by: Bartman on Jan 22, 2009 at 02:09 PM
I just bought my first ever HT set-up from avshop last saturday. Got everything from him to simplify the purchase (thanks for the great deal). I pruchased the ff gears:
Denon 1909
Wharfe 9.5
Wharfe 9cs
Wharfe DFS
Polk Audio PSW 125
Its primarily for HT, as I'm not much of a music lover.
As a newbie, the reason I got the Denon over other receivers (HK, Yamaha) was primarily because of Audyssey. I wanted to simplify my life in terms of setting up. I didnt think I'd have the patience to keep on tinkering with the receiver if I had to set-up all the speaker delay, crossover, etc settings myself. I just wanted a box to plug in and enjoy right away. The manual of the Denon wasn't the nightmare as most of the online reviews mentioned. Most guys can go over and understand it easily.
Setting up via Audyssey was a breeze, took about 20 mins to perform the 6 location test. To my untrained ears, it sounded very good. I guess Audyssey really works well as advertised.
The unexpected bonus for me was really the Audyssey Dynamic Volume. I can't really watch full blast at home, so this feature really helps when watching movies at night. It has 3 settings -- day, evening, and midnight. I've used evening and midnight. The feature helps you hear the dialogue of the movie better without sacrificing the sound effects, especially if you're watching late at night, and without disturbing people asleep.
You can turn off both features if you want to. But for a newbie like me, the Audyssey features really made it easier for me to enjoy my HT set-up quite quickly. The Denon 1909 is a good buy.
Post by: avshop on Jan 22, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Just wanted to post a short review.
I just bought my first ever HT set-up from avshop last saturday. Got everything from him to simplify the purchase (thanks for the great deal). I pruchased the ff gears:
Denon 1909
Wharfe 9.5
Wharfe 9cs
Wharfe DFS
Polk Audio PSW 125
Its primarily for HT, as I'm not much of a music lover.
As a newbie, the reason I got the Denon over other receivers (HK, Yamaha) was primarily because of Audyssey. I wanted to simplify my life in terms of setting up. I didnt think I'd have the patience to keep on tinkering with the receiver if I had to set-up all the speaker delay, crossover, etc settings myself. I just wanted a box to plug in and enjoy right away. The manual of the Denon wasn't the nightmare as most of the online reviews mentioned. Most guys can go over and understand it easily.
Setting up via Audyssey was a breeze, took about 20 mins to perform the 6 location test. To my untrained ears, it sounded very good. I guess Audyssey really works well as advertised.
The unexpected bonus for me was really the Audyssey Dynamic Volume. I can't really watch full blast at home, so this feature really helps when watching movies at night. It has 3 settings -- day, evening, and midnight. I've used evening and midnight. The feature helps you hear the dialogue of the movie better without sacrificing the sound effects, especially if you're watching late at night, and without disturbing people asleep.
You can turn off both features if you want to. But for a newbie like me, the Audyssey features really made it easier for me to enjoy my HT set-up quite quickly. The Denon 1909 is a good buy.
glad you're enjoying your gears. that' really the main advantage of having dynamic volume feature. with low level volume you still get to hear the dialogue. :)
Post by: jojitv on Jan 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Just wanted to post a short review.
I just bought my first ever HT set-up from avshop last saturday. Got everything from him to simplify the purchase (thanks for the great deal). I pruchased the ff gears:
Denon 1909
Wharfe 9.5
Wharfe 9cs
Wharfe DFS
Polk Audio PSW 125
Its primarily for HT, as I'm not much of a music lover.
As a newbie, the reason I got the Denon over other receivers (HK, Yamaha) was primarily because of Audyssey. I wanted to simplify my life in terms of setting up. I didnt think I'd have the patience to keep on tinkering with the receiver if I had to set-up all the speaker delay, crossover, etc settings myself. I just wanted a box to plug in and enjoy right away. The manual of the Denon wasn't the nightmare as most of the online reviews mentioned. Most guys can go over and understand it easily.
Setting up via Audyssey was a breeze, took about 20 mins to perform the 6 location test. To my untrained ears, it sounded very good. I guess Audyssey really works well as advertised.
The unexpected bonus for me was really the Audyssey Dynamic Volume. I can't really watch full blast at home, so this feature really helps when watching movies at night. It has 3 settings -- day, evening, and midnight. I've used evening and midnight. The feature helps you hear the dialogue of the movie better without sacrificing the sound effects, especially if you're watching late at night, and without disturbing people asleep.
You can turn off both features if you want to. But for a newbie like me, the Audyssey features really made it easier for me to enjoy my HT set-up quite quickly. The Denon 1909 is a good buy.
Congrats on your First ever HT Set-up. After the break-in and a few more tweaks, it's going to sound even better. ;)
Post by: blackie on Jan 23, 2009 at 08:57 AM
Enjoy your gear ;D
Post by: ivannn on Jan 23, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Post by: eksi on Jan 24, 2009 at 05:13 PM
By definition, a low-pass filter (not crossover) allows frequencies lower than the designated point to pass through. A high-pass filter is the opposite - higher frequencies pass through.
What I referred to in my previous post was the setting in the AVR, which is a low-pass filter (LPF) for the LFE channel. The settings at the sub itself are different.
The LPF in your sub will determine the maximum frequency that the sub will reproduce. Normally, this is set to the highest level and then the actual frequencies which are sent to the sub are determined by the settings in the bass management system of your AVR (basically crossover points and LPF for LFE). In your case, set it to 120 hz.
The high-pass filter that you mention sounds like an output. It sounds like the type of connection wherein you send the full signal to the sub and then hook the sub to the main speakers. Between the sub and the main speakers, the high-pass filter will be activated so you can send frequencies above either 80 hz or 100 hz. This type of connection is not used very much anymore. It's better to let the AVR handle the bass management.
Quite often, the sub has a third filter which is called a subsonic filter and is actually a high-pass filter. It will determine the lowest frequencies that the sub will reproduce. A typical subsonic filter is 35 hz or 20 hz. It basically limits the bass you can reproduce.
Post by: CMac on Feb 02, 2009 at 09:25 PM
Post by: disturbed on Feb 08, 2009 at 03:22 PM
Post by: avshop on Feb 08, 2009 at 04:05 PM
in a denon 1909 receiver..if your setup is only 5.1..where do you connect the rear speakers?the surround or surround back terminals?
connect to the surround terminals. :) you got na a denon 1909?
Post by: disturbed on Feb 08, 2009 at 04:39 PM
you got text pala :D
Post by: avshop on Feb 08, 2009 at 05:14 PM
wala pa..binabasa ko palang sa avs forums..napansin ko kasi me surround and surround back..so ang surround back is for the pair of speakers to make your 5.1 a 7.1 system?
you got text pala :D
yup. it's to make a 7.1 system. didn't get any text. :)
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 08, 2009 at 05:33 PM
Post by: avshop on Feb 08, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Anong Denon entry level and meron na HDMI and can decode BD audio (TrueHD ba yun?)? And what is the price range?
the denon 1909 is the cheapest denon model to have hdmi for audio and video and can decode the new HD audio formats. i can give you a good deal on one if you want. :)
Post by: disturbed on Feb 08, 2009 at 06:33 PM
ewan ko mark nagloloko ata phone ko..naka 4 yata ako na text sayo hehe
Post by: disturbed on Feb 08, 2009 at 09:07 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 09, 2009 at 12:08 PM
sir jeyps HCP right?nabenta mo na old receiver mo?
Yup HCP nga. I still have my 1907 pero nag hahanap ng kapalit ;D Gusto ko sana with HDMI tapos pwede na decode ng BR audio.
Post by: jojitv on Feb 09, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Yup HCP nga. I still have my 1907 pero nag hahanap ng kapalit ;D Gusto ko sana with HDMI tapos pwede na decode ng BR audio.
Naku, may symptoms ka na ng SARS. ;D ;D Sakto lang ang Denon 1909 sa needs mo. ;)
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 09, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Para lang sana lahat ng components (upscaler, PS3 and WDTV) daan lahat ng AVR. Saka take advantage of the TrueHD audio ng BD at mga .mkv files sayang eh.
Magkano ba current price ng 1909?
Post by: jojitv on Feb 09, 2009 at 03:38 PM
Oo nga eh...tagal ko naiwasan ang SARS kaso chronic na ;D ;D ;D
Para lang sana lahat ng components (upscaler, PS3 and WDTV) daan lahat ng AVR. Saka take advantage of the TrueHD audio ng BD at mga .mkv files sayang eh.
Magkano ba current price ng 1909?
Very convenient talaga pag nakakabit lahat ng connection sa isang device. I think it's price is around 30-32k.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 09, 2009 at 04:03 PM
Kaso laki ng additional cash to get the 1909.
Post by: titopepe on Feb 09, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 10, 2009 at 05:56 AM
what can you say about denon being made in china?
Almost everything is made in China now a days ;D The difference...companies like Denon ensure that the quality is still there mainly because their reputation is at stake. They are not start up companies that will sacrifice everything to lower the price. Bottom line, I wouldn't be worried with the overall quality of the product even if it is made in China.
Post by: jojitv on Feb 10, 2009 at 08:51 AM
:-[ Sobra sobra sa budget ko. Ipon mode na lang uli. Sayang may taker na sana yung 1907 ko.
Kaso laki ng additional cash to get the 1909.
Benta mo na sir. Para ipon na lang konti. ;)
Almost everything is made in China now a days ;D The difference...companies like Denon ensure that the quality is still there mainly because their reputation is at stake. They are not start up companies that will sacrifice everything to lower the price. Bottom line, I wouldn't be worried with the overall quality of the product even if it is made in China.
I agree. Even though products are made in China, they still have to meet the quality standards set by the manufacturers.
Post by: lakambini on Feb 11, 2009 at 09:26 AM
:-[ Sobra sobra sa budget ko. Ipon mode na lang uli. Sayang may taker na sana yung 1907 ko.
Kaso laki ng additional cash to get the 1909.
sir,
COD, Denon AVR-1909, 30,500, baka interesado ka :P
Para makuha ko na 1907 mo ;D
Post by: jeyps11_c on Feb 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Post by: avshop on Feb 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM
^Uy nice price yan for the 1909 ah. Kaso COD...ang bigat :( Sbrang gusto ko na mag upgrade kaso wala talaga budget.
get na the denon 1909 from me. good deal na offer ko sa yo. :)
Post by: jojitv on Feb 12, 2009 at 10:52 AM
^Uy nice price yan for the 1909 ah. Kaso COD...ang bigat :( Sbrang gusto ko na mag upgrade kaso wala talaga budget.
get na the denon 1909 from me. good deal na offer ko sa yo. :)
May inoffer na good deal na pala eh. ;D Bili na. Hehehe ;D
Post by: disturbed on Feb 13, 2009 at 10:09 PM
can I interface a stereo equalizer in the denon 1909? like for example I would like to use the fronts for stereo? or the zone 2..tia mga sirs
any comments mga sirs?
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 14, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Here's the review, ok na ok for me :)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/processor-and-receiver-reviews/receivers/denon-avr-1909-7.1-a/v-receiver.html
Post by: blackie on Feb 14, 2009 at 02:10 PM
Ganda talaga yang itim ;D ;D ;D
Post by: avshop on Feb 14, 2009 at 03:20 PM
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 14, 2009 at 04:55 PM
HI Brother Moks007!
Ganda talaga yang itim ;D ;D ;D
hi bro whats up? ya man ganda nga. I'm salivating for this, great price and nice performance ;D I'm saving up ;D
i can give good deals on the 1909. :)
ok sir noted, got ur pm, will text you, thanks
Post by: jojitv on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:11 AM
hi bro whats up? ya man ganda nga. I'm salivating for this, great price and nice performance ;D I'm saving up ;D
ok sir noted, got ur pm, will text you, thanks
Wag na patagalin yan brader Moks007, pwede terms yan kay avshop ;) >:D. Madadaan yan sa ma"boteng" usapan. ;) ;D
Post by: avshop on Feb 19, 2009 at 09:45 AM
Wag na patagalin yan brader Moks007, pwede terms yan kay avshop ;) >:D. Madadaan yan sa ma"boteng" usapan. ;) ;D
yup. :)
Post by: lakambini on Mar 05, 2009 at 01:55 PM
Pls recommend a speaker for an entry-level denon receiver.
Tnx
Post by: jeyps11_c on Mar 05, 2009 at 02:27 PM
Post by: jojitv on Mar 05, 2009 at 02:33 PM
Denon owners,
Pls recommend a speaker for an entry-level denon receiver.
Tnx
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;D
Post by: deo on Mar 05, 2009 at 02:49 PM
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;Dhmm....;D
Post by: milken on Mar 05, 2009 at 03:59 PM
Post by: jojitv on Mar 05, 2009 at 04:02 PM
Go go for B&W 685. ;D
Stop it!!!! Hehehe ;D ;D
Post by: JT on Mar 05, 2009 at 06:34 PM
I really want to get the Denon 1909 ;D..Maybe in a couple of months.
Here's the review, ok na ok for me :)
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/processor-and-receiver-reviews/receivers/denon-avr-1909-7.1-a/v-receiver.html
Im recommending this as I got yammy 663 and I still swap it with this model. 663 may have advantage for movies but overall I find 1909 the best for its range. Really balance for both movies and music.
Post by: iiinas on Mar 05, 2009 at 07:25 PM
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;D
hmmm.....
banat na sir jojit!!!
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Post by: jojitv on Mar 05, 2009 at 08:46 PM
hmmm.....
banat na sir jojit!!!
685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685 685
Hehehe. Penge famfers mo brader aynz. ;D ;D
Post by: avshop on Mar 05, 2009 at 11:05 PM
How much is your budget? Are you getting floorstanders or bookshelfs? Actually I'm also in the market for new speakers. And I'm looking at the B&W 685 as my replacements. But I'm still looking at other brands and models. ;D
before deciding on the b&w 685 come check out the polk rti series. they've been compared favorably by a number of my clients and you'll save some money pa. :) they match well with the denon 1909. come over to my showroom to check them out. :)
Post by: titopepe on Mar 05, 2009 at 11:28 PM
just want to know. if big leap talaga ang price sa first choices ko, why not...
Post by: raptor on Mar 06, 2009 at 12:15 AM
Post by: titopepe on Mar 06, 2009 at 03:08 AM
Post by: lakambini on Mar 06, 2009 at 03:34 PM
tnx sa inputs, gusto ko rin sana b&w 685 unfortunately way beyond my budget.
am contemplating on getting the most affordabe ht speakers package:
1. jamo 606 hcs3
2. wharfedale 9.5, 9sr and 9cs
3. a n y m o r e s u g g e s t i o n s ?
tnx
sir jeyps11_c sell mo rin b wharfs u?
Post by: CMac on Mar 06, 2009 at 04:04 PM
mga sir,
tnx sa inputs, gusto ko rin sana b&w 685 unfortunately way beyond my budget.
am contemplating on getting the most affordabe ht speakers package:
1. jamo 606 hcs3
2. wharfedale 9.5, 9sr and 9cs
3. a n y m o r e s u g g e s t i o n s ?
tnx
sir jeyps11_c sell mo rin b wharfs u?
the things i've read here and in other forums, they say it is better to get the 9cm instead of the cs if you're planning to get wharfe floorstanders. para di maoverpower daw yung center. don't know if this info is useful to you. :)
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Mar 06, 2009 at 06:09 PM
the denon 1909 is the cheapest denon model to have hdmi for audio and video and can decode the new HD audio formats. i can give you a good deal on one if you want. :)
sir avshop paki pm din sa best price ng 1909
tia
Post by: avshop on Mar 06, 2009 at 07:31 PM
mga sir,
tnx sa inputs, gusto ko rin sana b&w 685 unfortunately way beyond my budget.
am contemplating on getting the most affordabe ht speakers package:
1. jamo 606 hcs3
2. wharfedale 9.5, 9sr and 9cs
3. a n y m o r e s u g g e s t i o n s ?
tnx
sir jeyps11_c sell mo rin b wharfs u?
i can give you a good deal on the wharfs. selling the 9.5 for only 12k, 9cs for 4.3k and 9.1 for 5.3k. can give a little bit more discount if you get the whole set with a sub. :) you might also want to consider the polk m series. price is not that far off from the wharf but it sounds better. at least to my ears. i have a both sets in my showroom if you want to check it out. :)
Post by: avshop on Mar 06, 2009 at 07:32 PM
sir avshop paki pm din sa best price ng 1909
tia
sent you pm :)
Post by: xtrm_2001 on Mar 06, 2009 at 08:52 PM
sent you pm :)
replied your pm sir, salamat po
Post by: disturbed on Mar 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM
dynamic volume ok for movies..iba yung tunog nya pag naka off..although mas ok na sa akin yung naka off..too boomy for my taste so hinihinaan ko volume and na ddefeat dialogue..
anyawy happy owner here ;D
isa pa pala sa 1909..so volume lang madalas magamit dun sa front remote db..kasi pag switch ako sa HDMI2 or HDP..kelangan is yung sa rear remote pa ang pindutin?
Post by: jojitv on Mar 11, 2009 at 11:20 AM
when I hooked this avr to my gears..all smiles na lang ako while watching..just a big grin to my face..
dynamic volume ok for movies..iba yung tunog nya pag naka off..although mas ok na sa akin yung naka off..too boomy for my taste so hinihinaan ko volume and na ddefeat dialogue..
anyawy happy owner here ;D
isa pa pala sa 1909..so volume lang madalas magamit dun sa front remote db..kasi pag switch ako sa HDMI2 or HDP..kelangan is yung sa rear remote pa ang pindutin?
Congrats on your receiver. ;) Pwede gamitin yung buttons sa harap. You can even program the quick select buttons to select a source with your desired settings (vol., surround mode, etc...). Medyo mahirap lang kasi gamitin kasi yung manual hindi masyado helpful. ;D
Post by: disturbed on Mar 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM
any forums that can help me with the settings of the remote? sayang eh ang laki laki ng front remote tapos volume lang saka ibang functions nagagamit ko :-\
Post by: lakambini on Mar 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 12, 2009 at 01:09 PM
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
i think you have to set the dvd player audio out. usually may 3 choices sa audio output: dts, DD and stereo, aside from the different languages
Post by: avshop on Mar 12, 2009 at 02:24 PM
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
set your dvd player to output dolby digital and dts in bitstream format. that way, your receiver will do the decoding. :)
Post by: eksi on Mar 13, 2009 at 08:10 AM
Fellow Denon Owners
Recently acquired a brand new denon avr1508, my problem is everytime I play a dts disc, the receiver doesn't display the "DTS SURROUND", instead what it always shows is "Dolby Digital".
I set my player digital out to raw and pcm, but of no success.
Please help
Tnx
what's ur previous set-up po?
may be this can be solved by digital connection
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93551.0
Post by: lakambini on Mar 13, 2009 at 09:55 AM
i think you have to set the dvd player audio out. usually may 3 choices sa audio output: dts, DD and stereo, aside from the different languages
sir,
re audio output, are you referring to the digital output of the player? tried spdif off, raw and pcm - but to no avail.
what seems to be the problem?
Post by: lakambini on Mar 13, 2009 at 09:59 AM
set your dvd player to output dolby digital and dts in bitstream format. that way, your receiver will do the decoding. :)
sir,
tried this one already, unfortunately, even if the player indicates dts, the receiver still displays dolby digital, how weird ???
Post by: lakambini on Mar 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM
what's ur previous set-up po?
may be this can be solved by digital connection
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93551.0
I use coax digital out from my source to the receiver. Ganoon lang po ka-simple set-up ko. Is it possible kaya hindi mag-dts is walang subwoofer na naka-kabit? Pero bakit dolby digital nag-a-appear?
Post by: avshop on Mar 13, 2009 at 10:57 AM
sir,
tried this one already, unfortunately, even if the player indicates dts, the receiver still displays dolby digital, how weird ???
hmmm... try another dts source just to be sure it's not the dvd.
Post by: disturbed on Mar 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM
I read the manual on how to use the quick selects and sa avs forums ung limitations and capabilities..will try it out pag nakauwi sa pampanga..medyo funky talaga remote ng denon ;D
Post by: eksi on Mar 13, 2009 at 01:37 PM
I use coax digital out from my source to the receiver. Ganoon lang po ka-simple set-up ko. Is it possible kaya hindi mag-dts is walang subwoofer na naka-kabit? Pero bakit dolby digital nag-a-appear?
I don't think subwoofer-less set up causes it po.
Try checking the input mode of the receiver if set to Auto
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 13, 2009 at 06:12 PM
sir,
re audio output, are you referring to the digital output of the player? tried spdif off, raw and pcm - but to no avail.
what seems to be the problem?
make sure your disc is dts encoded. baka naman wala talagang dts audio. kung meron makikita mo sa main menu select mo sa language.
Post by: gearhead000 on Mar 13, 2009 at 06:36 PM
Post by: lakambini on Mar 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM
I don't think subwoofer-less set up causes it po.
Try checking the input mode of the receiver if set to Auto
sir,
nka-auto po, kapag dts ang sound coming from the player, dolby ang output sa display ng avr, if kapag select ko naman ang dts sa receiver lumalabas sa avr display ang dts pero wala namang sound :'(
Post by: eksi on Mar 14, 2009 at 02:04 PM
sir,
nka-auto po, kapag dts ang sound coming from the player, dolby ang output sa display ng avr, if kapag select ko naman ang dts sa receiver lumalabas sa avr display ang dts pero wala namang sound :'(
parang yung source ang may defect po.
in my opinion, you player throws dolby signal not dts signal
what's your player po (brand, model)?
Post by: avshop on Mar 14, 2009 at 03:13 PM
parang yung source ang may defect po.
in my opinion, you player throws dolby signal not dts signal
what's your player po (brand, model)?
quite possible. you're dvd player might not be able to send dts. :)
Post by: japlog on Mar 15, 2009 at 02:39 PM
TIA
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 16, 2009 at 08:05 AM
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
The main difference is that the 2809 has Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume. These features are incredibly good, particularly Dynamic EQ, but it is useful only if you listen at levels below reference. If you do, I would get the 2809.
Post by: mike c on Mar 16, 2009 at 08:39 AM
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
TIA
2809 IMO.
i hate anything that limits the volume, but it's always been my motto to buy the best you can afford.
Post by: avshop on Mar 16, 2009 at 09:09 AM
Will you buy a 25% cheaper 2808 than a 2809? Did the comparison already and will need others advise to make up my mind...
TIA
i can give you a good deal on the denon 2809. :)
Post by: jojitv on Mar 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM
The main difference is that the 2809 has Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume. These features are incredibly good, particularly Dynamic EQ, but it is useful only if you listen at levels below reference. If you do, I would get the 2809.
I agree. Believe me, those features are very useful when doing midnight movie marathons. ;) But if you have a dedicated soundproofed room and don't have a need to turn down the volume during loud scenes, then the 2808 would do.
Post by: lakambini on Mar 18, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Is it safe to use the AVR1508 at reference volume level? By the way , what is the reference volume level in movie playback?
Since it is an entry-level amp , will it be able to deliver all the "ooohhhsss" and "aaahhhsss"? Am currently using it in a small room and also using a subwoofer.
Tnx
Post by: avshop on Mar 18, 2009 at 07:10 PM
Fellow Denon Owners
Is it safe to use the AVR1508 at reference volume level? By the way , what is the reference volume level in movie playback?
Since it is an entry-level amp , will it be able to deliver all the "ooohhhsss" and "aaahhhsss"? Am currently using it in a small room and also using a subwoofer.
Tnx
it should be ok. i used to have the 1508 on display in my showroom hooked up to the infinity primus. i would play it quite loud. around -10 to -8. :)
Post by: japlog on Mar 20, 2009 at 09:58 AM
Another question I have is will it make sense to connect the 2808 with a 5 channel power amp na rated 100wpc? 2808 is already rated 110wpc......
I agree. Believe me, those features are very useful when doing midnight movie marathons. ;) But if you have a dedicated soundproofed room and don't have a need to turn down the volume during loud scenes, then the 2808 would do.
Post by: dobler on Mar 20, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Thanks for the inputs! Greatly considered the pros for the 2809 but in the end I decided to go for the cheaper 2808 and use the extra cash to buy other gadgets.
Another question I have is will it make sense to connect the 2808 with a 5 channel power amp na rated 100wpc? 2808 is already rated 110wpc......
I use my 2808 as a pre amp/processor with a Rotel 1565 five channel power amp (100wpc). I noticed that I could play movies and music at louder volumes and yet my ears are less fatigued. I guess it depends on your preference, the 2808's internal amps are good enough in my opinion.
Post by: Gwenael on Mar 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM
I use my 2808 as a pre amp/processor with a Rotel 1565 five channel power amp (100wpc). I noticed that I could play movies and music at louder volumes and yet my ears are less fatigued. I guess it depends on your preference, the 2808's internal amps are good enough in my opinion.
Post by: dobler on Mar 20, 2009 at 12:13 PM
sir dobler ygpm
replied to your PM
Post by: nogie on Mar 30, 2009 at 09:57 AM
Anybody here using 3806, 3808 or 3809? I can't find the sleep function of the receiver at hindi ko magamit pampatulog sa gabi dahil ayoko na matulugan. Funny because i've been using the receiver for 5 months now but I cant find the "sleep button" anywhere in the remote & receiver. The remote sucks too, maganda lang tignan kasi LCD touchscreen pero ang hirap gamitin at malakas sa battery.
Thanks in advance!
Post by: nogie on Mar 30, 2009 at 10:04 AM
Post by: lmerb on Mar 30, 2009 at 11:01 PM
Post by: highwayman on Apr 02, 2009 at 11:04 AM
thanks
Post by: milken on Apr 02, 2009 at 11:28 PM
hi... is the 3809 available locally? any info will be highly appreciated... i'm thinking of an upgrade.
thanks
I think Denon has not yet released 3809. This model is not found in Denon's US and Japan websites. http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp); http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html (http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html)
Some says that Denon will skip 3809 and launch 3810 instead. Check here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872).
Post by: highwayman on Apr 03, 2009 at 01:48 AM
I think Denon has not yet released 3809. This model is not found in Denon's US and Japan websites. http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/AVReceivers.asp); http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html (http://denon.jp/products/avamp.html)
Some says that Denon will skip 3809 and launch 3810 instead. Check here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1056872).
thanks... very informative reading... will consider the 3808 vs the 876
Post by: x_jason_x on Apr 04, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Post by: JT on Apr 20, 2009 at 09:54 PM
Has anyone encountered this before? Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks.
Post by: jojitv on Apr 21, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2009 at 09:40 AM
I was out of town for 1 1/2 weeks and only got a chance to watch today but my denon 1909 suddenly got problem. After turning on, light turns green then goes off and red light blink.
Has anyone encountered this before? Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks.
Haven't encountered this. There is a reset procedure for the AVR, which should be found in the manual. I suggest you try that.
Post by: nogie on Apr 21, 2009 at 09:57 AM
Im an owner of a Denon 3806 & can't find the "sleep function" neither in the receiver or remote control. Any help will be appreciated. ;D
Post by: JT on Apr 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Haven't encountered anything like that. Try first turning it on with everything disconnected except the power cable. try also checking the manual for troubleshooting tips. Will try to check mine later when I get home.
Yup, did this pero same problem. Sobrang excited ko pa naman manood kagabi. Try ko mamya suggestion ni streetsmart.
Thanks a lot sa inyo.
Post by: JT on Apr 21, 2009 at 03:47 PM
Haven't encountered this. There is a reset procedure for the AVR, which should be found in the manual. I suggest you try that.
Nag try ako this lunchtime, di gumana itong reset.
Mukhang kailangan nang dalhin sa service center. Thanks for the advice.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2009 at 04:21 PM
Nag try ako this lunchtime, di gumana itong reset.
Mukhang kailangan nang dalhin sa service center. Thanks for the advice.
Bad trip. And I'm not very impressed with the service center here. Good luck! Balitaan mo kami ano nangyari
Post by: JT on Apr 21, 2009 at 04:27 PM
Bad trip. And I'm not very impressed with the service center here. Good luck! Balitaan mo kami ano nangyari
Yep. Im here in Singapore, hopefully ok and customer service nila dito.
Post by: dobler on Apr 21, 2009 at 04:40 PM
I was out of town for 1 1/2 weeks and only got a chance to watch today but my denon 1909 suddenly got problem. After turning on, light turns green then goes off and red light blink.
Has anyone encountered this before? Pls advise how to fix it. Thanks.
Similar thing happened to my dad's 1709. Fresh from the box. With nothing connected except the power chord to the outlet. It would turn on, blink red for a few seconds then shut down. Manual said that it was an amp problem. Had to bring the unit to the service center. Since it was under warranty, didn't have to pay for anything.
Post by: jojitv on Apr 21, 2009 at 05:20 PM
Hi fellow Denon owners!
Im an owner of a Denon 3806 & can't find the "sleep function" neither in the receiver or remote control. Any help will be appreciated. ;D
Same here. Can't also find it on the 1909 ;D
Post by: nogie on Apr 21, 2009 at 05:34 PM
Same here. Can't also find it on the 1909 ;D
So it's not isolated to this model (3806), lahat pala ???? Can't use it during the night to induce sleep, the receiver easily gets hot na ayaw ko na matulugan.
Thanks for your feedback sir! ;D
Post by: turbine on Apr 23, 2009 at 08:41 AM
how much po yung denon 2309 and 2809?
Post by: avshop on Apr 23, 2009 at 09:08 AM
sir,
how much po yung denon 2309 and 2809?
sent you pm :)
Post by: piggyback on Apr 27, 2009 at 12:58 AM
kindly pm me the price of your denon 2809 thank you :)
Post by: avshop on Apr 27, 2009 at 09:17 AM
hi avshop,
kindly pm me the price of your denon 2809 thank you :)
sent you pm :)
Post by: syempre on Apr 27, 2009 at 05:02 PM
Plese PM me also prices for 1909, 2309 and 2809.
Thanks.
Post by: avshop on Apr 27, 2009 at 05:06 PM
Avshop,
Plese PM me also prices for 1909, 2309 and 2809.
Thanks.
sent you pm :)
Post by: piggyback on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Post by: avshop on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:28 PM
thank you kindly pm also denon 2309 price thank you
sent you pm :)
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 28, 2009 at 06:56 AM
Kasi meron ako isang movie na hindi ma decode and audio, so wala tuloy sound.
I tried the same movie sa PS3 meron naman sound so it means meron decoder yung PS3 for that audio na wala yung 1907 ko.
Post by: jojitv on Apr 28, 2009 at 06:01 PM
Meron ba update software updates ang Denon that adds more audio decoders?
Kasi meron ako isang movie na hindi ma decode and audio, so wala tuloy sound.
I tried the same movie sa PS3 meron naman sound so it means meron decoder yung PS3 for that audio na wala yung 1907 ko.
Wala ata option para sa software update ang 1907. That option is only available for their higher models. What specific movie are you trying to play? DVD or BD? And what was the other player?
Post by: avshop on May 10, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Post by: [Sp0oN]-HD on May 12, 2009 at 07:58 PM
Quote
Mahwah, NJ, May 11, 2009 - Denon Electronics, one of the world's premier manufacturers of high-quality home entertainment components, today introduced its line of advanced audio/video receivers with nine new offerings for 2009/2010, including three that feature industry-leading networking and Web access capabilities. New Denon receivers include the following, with expected availability dates in parenthesis: AVR-4310CI (SRP: $1,999, May '09), AVR-3310CI (SRP: $1,499, June '09), AVR-2310CI (SRP: $849, June '09), AVR-1910 (SRP: $549, May '09) and AVR-1610 (SRP: $379, May '09), as well as four new receivers in Denon's Retail Home Theater Series line, the AVR-990 (SRP: $1,499, July '09), AVR-890 (SRP: $799, June '09), AVR-790 (SRP: $499, June '09) and AVR-590 (SRP: $349, June '09). The initials "CI" (for Custom Integration) in the three models noted above emphasize the inclusion of special features and capabilities geared specifically toward professional custom integrators.
more details on the link below
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/05/11/denon-outs-2009-line-of-blu-ray-players-av-receivers-and-headph/
Post by: rockster on May 14, 2009 at 04:31 PM
looking forward to the reviews on these...
Post by: avshop on May 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Post by: marivictor on Jun 07, 2009 at 09:07 AM
Please pm me your best prices for denon 2809 and yamaha 863, ty
Post by: avshop on Jun 08, 2009 at 07:02 PM
avshop,
Please pm me your best prices for denon 2809 and yamaha 863, ty
Sent you pm. :)
Post by: doughn on Jun 08, 2009 at 09:11 PM
Post by: mike c on Jun 08, 2009 at 09:50 PM
i own a 3802 , do u guys think ill should upgrade? what model? TIA
10 series :) or 09 series if you don't want to wait.
2809 and above.
Post by: doughn on Jun 08, 2009 at 10:03 PM
10 series :) or 09 series if you don't want to wait.
2809 and above.
sir,
malaki ba talaga difference sa SQ... btw my main source is Egreat M34A, TIA
Post by: mike c on Jun 08, 2009 at 10:13 PM
sir,
malaki ba talaga difference sa SQ... btw my main source is Egreat M34A, TIA
i don't know kung meron ang 02 series ng audyssey ... because it and the SVS AS-EQ1 really improved my SQ. (without the EQ1, receiver audysseys kill subwoofer bass IMO)
aside from that, i don't believe the hardware between the 02 and new models should have an audible difference.
Post by: doughn on Jun 08, 2009 at 11:16 PM
i don't know kung meron ang 02 series ng audyssey ... because it and the SVS AS-EQ1 really improved my SQ. (without the EQ1, receiver audysseys kill subwoofer bass IMO)
aside from that, i don't believe the hardware between the 02 and new models should have an audible difference.
wala po audyssey.... luma na kasi 2003 pa ;D.... wow better bass pa from my Velodyne SPL1200..... nice
kasi right now SW setting on my 3802 is (-3) ... sobra lakas kc if louder pa ;D ;D
thanks for the info.....
Post by: mike c on Jun 09, 2009 at 07:48 AM
wala po audyssey.... luma na kasi 2003 pa ;D.... wow better bass pa from my Velodyne SPL1200..... nice
kasi right now SW setting on my 3802 is (-3) ... sobra lakas kc if louder pa ;D ;D
thanks for the info.....
actually, better sound quality from your main speakers if you use the receiver audyssey ... yung AS-EQ1 is a separate SVS product that equalizes subwoofers :)
Post by: doughn on Jun 09, 2009 at 11:26 AM
actually, better sound quality from your main speakers if you use the receiver audyssey ... yung AS-EQ1 is a separate SVS product that equalizes subwoofers :)
thanks for the info sir... i need to convince my wife first...hehehe
Post by: piggyback on Jun 11, 2009 at 06:24 PM
which is better denon 2309 or onkyo sr-706?
post feedback na rin please thank you
Post by: bono vox on Jun 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM
quick question mga sir..
which is better denon 2309 or onkyo sr-706?
post feedback na rin please thank you
for me... denon is for best audio... onkyo is best for video.
Post by: avshop on Jun 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Post by: hi-fi heroes on Jun 20, 2009 at 12:33 PM
for me... denon is for best audio... onkyo is best for video.
what's the best for both worlds?
Post by: disturbed on Jun 21, 2009 at 07:54 PM
I watched a movie in the afternoon and everything is ok but when I tried to watch another movie late in the evening my 1909 set up have been erased...my quick memory settings are also gone..my audyssey setup, assigned inputs are all gone..
I did not touch anything..I am not sure what happened and why everything was reset..I don't even know how to reset this receiver so I am sure I did not do anything..
naupuan ko lng ung remote pero wala naman ako makita na reset..hay kakapagod pa man din mag set up nito.
tia mga sirs
Post by: iiinas on Jun 21, 2009 at 08:26 PM
what's the best for both worlds?
imho, audio = harman kardon, video = onkyo, video and audio = denon ;D ;D ;D
Post by: avshop on Jun 21, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Post by: disturbed on Jun 21, 2009 at 11:56 PM
Disturbed. Not sure what the problem is but we can check with the service center. Have you tried calling them?under warranty pa naman. I can call them for you if you want. :)
thanks mark..I'll try to set it up once more..if this happened again then I'll contact you :D
just really wan to know what caused it..baka me naka experience na din ng ganun
Post by: Lancito on Jun 22, 2009 at 01:13 PM
please help mga sirs
I watched a movie in the afternoon and everything is ok but when I tried to watch another movie late in the evening my 1909 set up have been erased...my quick memory settings are also gone..my audyssey setup, assigned inputs are all gone..
I did not touch anything..I am not sure what happened and why everything was reset..I don't even know how to reset this receiver so I am sure I did not do anything..
naupuan ko lng ung remote pero wala naman ako makita na reset..hay kakapagod pa man din mag set up nito.
tia mga sirs
Make sure your a/v receiver has proper ventilation. Nag default settings din 2808 ko before when I covered it with a blanket during a construction in my bathroom. There is some protection in the circuitry if uminit ang unit without proper ventilation.
Post by: disturbed on Jun 22, 2009 at 09:10 PM
Post by: dips15 on Jun 24, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Might be able to get a 1609 or 1709 at a good price for a different set-up. Was just wondering if I can use these receivers to test speakers to be used potentially on a 1909/1910. I also want to know if I could use one of these models as basis for comparison of the 19 series against other brand receivers.
Thanks for your inputs.
Post by: Trig on Jun 29, 2009 at 02:02 PM
TIA
Post by: mike c on Jun 29, 2009 at 02:32 PM
Help naman po sa mga denon users, just bought 2808. Audyssey is working, testone is working but I cant output any sound from any sources. I have WDTV connected thru optical, PC connected thru EXT IN, and an ipod thru RCA. I cant get any sound from all sources. The tuner also doesn't output any white noise. I'm sure its not on mute, and the volume is at -20db.
TIA
did you assign the optical input number for the WDTV input?
i think you might also need to assign "analog" for RCA inputs
Post by: bono vox on Jun 29, 2009 at 02:35 PM
how to connect and operations for the bose 901/equalizer to my denon avr-3802?
tia. ???
Post by: Trig on Jun 29, 2009 at 05:22 PM
did you assign the optical input number for the WDTV input?
i think you might also need to assign "analog" for RCA inputs
Bale dun po sa input mode ng denon, triny ko na yung auto, analog, digital, ext. in.
Dun po sa wdtv, natry ko sya both analog and digital. Working din po sya sa old sony amp ko
Post by: disturbed on Jun 30, 2009 at 06:02 PM
thanks mark..I'll try to set it up once more..if this happened again then I'll contact you :D
just really wan to know what caused it..baka me naka experience na din ng ganun
well I got it working again..back to normal sya..works perfectly last sunday and monday..sana pag uwi ko this weekend ganun pa din
Post by: mike c on Jun 30, 2009 at 08:25 PM
Bale dun po sa input mode ng denon, triny ko na yung auto, analog, digital, ext. in.
Dun po sa wdtv, natry ko sya both analog and digital. Working din po sya sa old sony amp ko
try pressing the "input mode button" on the remote til you see "AUTO" on the receiver display.
button #8 on the remote
button #17 on the front panel
(as per the manual)
http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-2808CI-OM-E_102.pdf
page 7 on the pdf file (page 4 actual manual)
page 9 on the pdf file (page 6 actual manual)
Post by: zap|JDM on Jul 02, 2009 at 01:30 PM
The remote of my Denon AVR-3802, stopped functioning properly, though it still lights everytime I push a button, the problem is, it cant seem to command the AVR.
Anyone who knows where I can bring the remote for checkup? TIA :)
Post by: mike c on Jul 02, 2009 at 01:49 PM
HELP.
The remote of my Denon AVR-3802, stopped functioning properly, though it still lights everytime I push a button, the problem is, it cant seem to command the AVR.
Anyone who knows where I can bring the remote for checkup? TIA :)
i don't know saan ang service niyan, better to ask where you bought it from.
but is the remote in the "AMP" mode?
http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR3802_1082_OwnersManual.pdf
Post by: zap|JDM on Jul 02, 2009 at 03:07 PM
I bought the avr from abroad.
Post by: mandyb on Jul 06, 2009 at 03:20 PM
I have a Denon 2808 with Wharfedale 9.1 fronts.
I was wondering is I could bi amp and bi wire the speakers to see how it would work/sound. At the same rate I am already quite fixated on upgrading the speakers very soon but before that I would like to see how the avr would make this wharfedale sound better. If this is a good idea, can anybody help me connect this set up? im quite parenoid still after reading the manual of the denon.
Post by: mike c on Jul 06, 2009 at 04:03 PM
need advise:
I have a Denon 2808 with Wharfedale 9.1 fronts.
I was wondering is I could bi amp and bi wire the speakers to see how it would work/sound. At the same rate I am already quite fixated on upgrading the speakers very soon but before that I would like to see how the avr would make this wharfedale sound better. If this is a good idea, can anybody help me connect this set up? im quite parenoid still after reading the manual of the denon.
basically, to bi-amp the speakers, the denon is gonna switch the surround back amps to output the same signal as the main L and R.
you should try it. who knows? at the very least it's a learning experience.
i've tried bi-amping with a Rotel RMB1077 and i heard no difference. my mains are now bi-wired with 12/4 speaker cables (because i can) :D but again, no sound difference.
Post by: mandyb on Jul 06, 2009 at 04:42 PM
basically, to bi-amp the speakers, the denon is gonna switch the surround back amps to output the same signal as the main L and R.
you should try it. who knows? at the very least it's a learning experience.
i've tried bi-amping with a Rotel RMB1077 and i heard no difference. my mains are now bi-wired with 12/4 speaker cables (because i can) :D but again, no sound difference.
oh ok thanks, let me try for the experience also... do i just connect another set of wires from the designated bi amp terminals and straight to the speaker and remove the bi wire connectors in the speakers literally?
Post by: mike c on Jul 06, 2009 at 05:01 PM
oh ok thanks, let me try for the experience also... do i just connect another set of wires from the designated bi amp terminals and straight to the speaker and remove the bi wire connectors in the speakers literally?
yes.
yes, remove the jumpers between the speaker binding posts.
Post by: mandyb on Jul 06, 2009 at 05:54 PM
yes.
yes, remove the jumpers between the speaker binding posts.
Thanks bro
Post by: lmerb on Jul 06, 2009 at 09:48 PM
Post by: Stark3 on Jul 10, 2009 at 01:22 PM
Just a quick question : have any of you thought that the denons (1909 below) lacked power to drive your speakers?
I'm saving up for a good receiver and I like the 1909's feature set, but the lack of pre-outs cuts off the possibility of using an external power amp, making me think twice about it.
Thanks.
Post by: disturbed on Jul 10, 2009 at 01:31 PM
Post by: threadlock on Jul 10, 2009 at 03:09 PM
Post by: ment on Jul 14, 2009 at 12:19 AM
Denon 1610
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=415
Denon 1910
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=414
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-1910.pdf
Denon 2310
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=413
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-2310.pdf
Post by: avshop on Jul 14, 2009 at 12:42 PM
hey any chance these models will be available sa atin? and how much?
Denon 1610
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=415
Denon 1910
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=414
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-1910.pdf
Denon 2310
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=413
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-2310.pdf
maybe later in the year. :)
Post by: nogie on Jul 14, 2009 at 01:48 PM
hey any chance these models will be available sa atin? and how much?
Denon 1610
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=415
Denon 1910
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=414
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-1910.pdf
Denon 2310
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/frames_main.php?main=prod&ver=&MID=3&sub=1&action=detail&Pid=413
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/pdf/pi/AVR-2310.pdf
Or if you can't wait & 110V isn't an issue to you, we have members here like Toy 01 & Anya who can offer you better prices than locally acquired AVRs. ;D
Post by: Bartman on Jul 14, 2009 at 02:16 PM
Hi guys,
Just a quick question : have any of you thought that the denons (1909 below) lacked power to drive your speakers?
I'm saving up for a good receiver and I like the 1909's feature set, but the lack of pre-outs cuts off the possibility of using an external power amp, making me think twice about it.
Thanks.
Hi. I use my Denon 1909 for a 20sqm room at home. Its matched to a Wharf 9.5, Wharf 9cs, Wharf DFS, and a Polk Audio sub. I think its powerful enough for my room. I actually don't even turn up the volume very high to get a good HT experience.
It might really depend on how big your room is. Hope this helps. thanks
Post by: ment on Jul 17, 2009 at 07:21 AM
Or if you can't wait & 110V isn't an issue to you, we have members here like Toy 01 & Anya who can offer you better prices than locally acquired AVRs. ;D
i wanna demo it first sana :)
inevitable na yung AVR upgrade kasi ..... am gonna compare it with onkyo 507 ......
Post by: boosted69 on Jul 19, 2009 at 06:12 PM
ok po ba sa Wharfedale speakers ito?
thanks po.
Post by: titopepe on Jul 19, 2009 at 11:36 PM
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4858.asp
does the 1910 have preouts for poweramp?
Post by: iiinas on Jul 20, 2009 at 06:21 AM
why is 1910 cheaper than 1909?
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4858.asp
does the 1910 have preouts for poweramp?
sorry @titopepe, only sub pre-out, based on the link you posted. :(
if you want pre-outs, yamaha 663 or 665 series and up has it, onkyo 7 series up has it too.
Post by: avshop on Jul 20, 2009 at 09:44 AM
sorry @titopepe, only sub pre-out, based on the link you posted. :(
if you want pre-outs, yamaha 663 or 665 series and up has it, onkyo 7 series up has it too.
hk 255 and hk 355 has pre outs as well. i can give good deals on denon and hk amps. :)
Post by: eksi on Jul 20, 2009 at 01:11 PM
tumaas lang naman ng 5-watt per channel power yung new compare to old 19xx
Post by: Stark3 on Jul 20, 2009 at 05:50 PM
bakit kaya inalis yung pre-out feature sa 19xx series?
tumaas lang naman ng 5-watt per channel power yung new compare to old 19xx
Hmm ... Maybe to keep the same price point while adding new features na hanap ng consumers? Napansin ko from research, parang natanggal yung pre-out feature ng mga 19xx model in the same model na naglagay sila ng Audyssey EQ. My guess is when it came time to compromise on the feature sets, pre-out yung mas mababa sa list nila.
Post by: gearhead000 on Jul 20, 2009 at 06:02 PM
(or in general... what's the difference between the 23xx and 28xx series)?
Post by: joepaps on Jul 20, 2009 at 08:50 PM
anyone know the difference between, say, the 2309 and 2808? ???2808ci vs. 2309ci:
(or in general... what's the difference between the 23xx and 28xx series)?
2309 advantages -
1. 2309 has 4 HDMI inputs vs. 2 on 2808
2. 2309 has the new Audyssey features (Dynamic EQ and Vol), 2808 doesn't
2808 advantages -
1. slightly more power, slightly better DAC's, slightly better audio processing with AL24 (it THEORETICALLY should sound a little better, but that's debatable)
2. Audyssey MultEQ XT vs standard MultEQ (but no Dynamic features)
3. full Pre-amp outs for all 7.1 channels (vital if you want to use as a pre/pro or add external amps)
4. can output digital (2-channel PCM) audio to Zone 2 (analog only on 2309)
5. 3-zone/3-source control (2-zones only on 2309) with video out to zone 2 (audio only on 2309)
6. more inputs (7 assignable video inputs instead of 5)
Post by: mike c on Jul 20, 2009 at 08:57 PM
Post by: riven319 on Jul 27, 2009 at 10:22 AM
question sana sa mga denon with audyssey owners....
are you using the dynamic eq function of audyssey?
...the audyssey instructions (from the web) advises that after setting the respective xovers for the speakers manually, the LFE xover/cutoff must be set to 120hz if it can be set.... in my case I set the speakers individually at 80hz with the exception of the LFE which is 120hz in the advanced setup whereas before I just had it basically at 80hz for everything. Is that adviseable?
TIA! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 27, 2009 at 03:11 PM
...the audyssey instructions (from the web) advises that after setting the respective xovers for the speakers manually, the LFE xover/cutoff must be set to 120hz if it can be set.... in my case I set the speakers individually at 80hz with the exception of the LFE which is 120hz in the advanced setup whereas before I just had it basically at 80hz for everything. Is that adviseable?
Yes, that's correct.
The setting for the LFE is actually a low-pass filter (LPF) which allows only frequencies at and below the setting to go to the subwoofer. Since the LFE channel has content all the way up to 120 hz, it is correct to set the LPF to 120 hz. That's the correct setting, with or without Audyssey.
Post by: riven319 on Jul 29, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Yes, that's correct.
The setting for the LFE is actually a low-pass filter (LPF) which allows only frequencies at and below the setting to go to the subwoofer. Since the LFE channel has content all the way up to 120 hz, it is correct to set the LPF to 120 hz. That's the correct setting, with or without Audyssey.
thanks sir!
by my understanding that would not conflict with the xover of the mains?
I also received conflicting suggestions on the LFE+main setting. I set my fronts to small. I read from another site that they set their SW settings in denon to LFE+main while others discourage this....
thanks :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2009 at 03:33 PM
by my understanding that would not conflict with the xover of the mains?
I also received conflicting suggestions on the LFE+main setting. I set my fronts to small. I read from another site that they set their SW settings in denon to LFE+main while others discourage this....
The LFE channel is different from the main channels. LFE is mainly for sound effects. There will be no conflict if the xover of the LFE channel is different from the mains.
The fronts should always be set to small and let the subwoofer handle frequencies below the xover.
LFE+main is a bad idea and the terminology is also very confusing. It means that both the sub and the main speakers will handle frequencies below the xovers. This means that those bass frequencies will be reproduced twice - in the sub and the main speakers. Which means that the bass will be exaggerated.
Post by: dobler on Jul 29, 2009 at 03:58 PM
I read on your HT gallery thread that you previously owned a 2808 that eventually got damaged. I'm curious with what happened. I too owned a 2808 and it died in less than a year. I was using it as a pre amp and an unusual static buzz was being fed to all channels. Thankfully, the Denon is still under warranty but it's been 4 months and hasn't been repaired. Nagiintay pa yung service center ng replacement parts. I've since upgraded to an Onkyo 876.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2009 at 04:20 PM
Streetsmart,
I read on your HT gallery thread that you previously owned a 2808 that eventually got damaged. I'm curious with what happened. I too owned a 2808 and it died in less than a year. I was using it as a pre amp and an unusual static buzz was being fed to all channels. Thankfully, the Denon is still under warranty but it's been 4 months and hasn't been repaired. Nagiintay pa yung service center ng replacement parts. I've since upgraded to an Onkyo 876.
Sorry to hear that about your Denon 2808.
The shop said that the DSP chips in my 2808 were destroyed. No idea how that happened. I have a big AVR and line conditioner. Will cost P20k to repair. I'm thinking I will have it repaired and then sell it.
An Onkyo 876 is pretty good. PQ may even be better than the Denon 2808. Audio is probably about the same.
Post by: dobler on Jul 29, 2009 at 04:34 PM
Sorry to hear that about your Denon 2808.
The shop said that the DSP chips in my 2808 were destroyed. No idea how that happened. I have a big AVR and line conditioner. Will cost P20k to repair. I'm thinking I will have it repaired and then sell it.
An Onkyo 876 is pretty good. PQ may even be better than the Denon 2808. Audio is probably about the same.
I also have a big AVR connected to a Bada Line Conditioner but still it started buzzing. Anyway, I'm very satisfied with the 876. Way better as a preamp. GUI is a definite step up. Thanks for all your tips regarding Audyssey EQ btw. The thread for that one at avsforums is over 200 pages long. Nakakalula although their setup guide was a big help.
Post by: riven319 on Jul 29, 2009 at 04:59 PM
that about cleared it up :)
Post by: jetro on Jul 29, 2009 at 05:41 PM
Sorry to hear that about your Denon 2808.
The shop said that the DSP chips in my 2808 were destroyed. No idea how that happened. I have a big AVR and line conditioner. Will cost P20k to repair. I'm thinking I will have it repaired and then sell it.
An Onkyo 876 is pretty good. PQ may even be better than the Denon 2808. Audio is probably about the same.
hmm... a bit OT but I've a friend whose pioneer VSX 5xx's (I forgot what model exactly) DSP chip got destroyed. According to him, the technician said this is caused by playing a certain DVD under DTS setting. I don't believe that but I must say when that story was fresh, I paused for a while thinking of selecting DTS over dolby when playing a DVD :)
Post by: gearhead000 on Jul 30, 2009 at 08:24 PM
BATPIG'S "DENON-TO-ENGLISH DICTIONARY"
SETUP GUIDE AND FAQ (http://batpigworld.com/setup.html)
Post by: avshop on Aug 13, 2009 at 10:48 PM
Post by: raptor on Aug 16, 2009 at 08:59 AM
The LFE channel is different from the main channels. LFE is mainly for sound effects. There will be no conflict if the xover of the LFE channel is different from the mains.
The fronts should always be set to small and let the subwoofer handle frequencies below the xover.
LFE+main is a bad idea and the terminology is also very confusing. It means that both the sub and the main speakers will handle frequencies below the xovers. This means that those bass frequencies will be reproduced twice - in the sub and the main speakers. Which means that the bass will be exaggerated.
Sir Streetsmart,
Thanks for this valuable info ... i recently purchased a SVS PB10NSD subwoofer to complement my 5.0 setup on a Denon 1909 AVR, i would like to ask for pointers in setting up the subwoofer to get the most of it...by the way, the PB10NSD does not have a cross-over amp - only the phase and gain are adjustable, everything else would be set on the AVR ...i'm using Dali Concept 6 floorstanders for my fronts.
Reason i'm asking is that I used to own a Velodyne VX10 ... it sounded great for my setup then, but everytime I hear the same model on stores or other owners setup, they seem to be getting the best of it ...their bass are sounding a lot better even with low-end or smaller speakers complementing the sub compared to my system ... i'm just worried that I still would not be able to optimize my setup even with a better subwoofer without an expert advice.
I'm planning to use the Audyssey auto setup, but I read that that is not enough to optimize the subwoofer performance.
Thanks in advance sir.
Post by: blued888 on Aug 16, 2009 at 09:11 AM
Reason i'm asking is that I used to own a Velodyne VX10 ... it sounded great for my setup then, but everytime I hear the same model on stores or other owners setup, they seem to be getting the best of it ...their bass are sounding a lot better even with low-end or smaller speakers complementing the sub compared to my system ... i'm just worried that I still would not be able to optimize my setup even with a better subwoofer without an expert advice.
There are times when your room is the culprit. Even though how much you tweak your subwoofer settings, it just wouldn't sound the same as with stores or other people's setups.
I've tried putting my home theater setup in 4 different rooms and it only sounded great in two of them. Bass was almost non-existent in the other two rooms.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 16, 2009 at 02:21 PM
There are times when your room is the culprit. Even though how much you tweak your subwoofer settings, it just wouldn't sound the same as with stores or other people's setups.WOW!! i never thought that the location's factor would be as big as that! :o :o
I've tried putting my home theater setup in 4 different rooms and it only sounded great in two of them. Bass was almost non-existent in the other two rooms.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 17, 2009 at 07:17 AM
Sir Streetsmart,
Thanks for this valuable info ... i recently purchased a SVS PB10NSD subwoofer to complement my 5.0 setup on a Denon 1909 AVR, i would like to ask for pointers in setting up the subwoofer to get the most of it...by the way, the PB10NSD does not have a cross-over amp - only the phase and gain are adjustable, everything else would be set on the AVR ...i'm using Dali Concept 6 floorstanders for my fronts.
Reason i'm asking is that I used to own a Velodyne VX10 ... it sounded great for my setup then, but everytime I hear the same model on stores or other owners setup, they seem to be getting the best of it ...their bass are sounding a lot better even with low-end or smaller speakers complementing the sub compared to my system ... i'm just worried that I still would not be able to optimize my setup even with a better subwoofer without an expert advice.
I'm planning to use the Audyssey auto setup, but I read that that is not enough to optimize the subwoofer performance.
Thanks in advance sir.
Just saw this post after answering the same question sent via PM and not saving my answer. ;D
Anyhow, I don't think there's any big secret about this. If you have Audyssey, just follow the set-up guide at AVS Forum and 80% of the job is done. It's that good.
The remaining 20% is sub placement and there's a lot of articles in the web about this. Finally, you have acoustic treatment - broadband absorbers and bass traps. There are threads at pinvoydvd about this. You can DIY it easily.
In my experience, there are very few stores which set up their subs properly. Nearly all of them have the subs too loud and with improper eq. And I have heard very few set-ups of members which have impressive bass set-ups (probably the best I've heard is that of Alvinthx and he has tons of experience + equipment).
In order to know if your sub is well set-up, you need to listen to deep bass music. Music ... because we know what it's supposed to sound like. Not explosions because you don't really know what that sounds like unless sundalo ka.
At Landmark, I just saw a copy of the dvd of Cream at Royal Albert Hall. Track 12 has a fantastic sequence of the bass guitar going up note by note for more than an octave. This happens twice, starting at 62:45. If you can hear each note distinctly and they sound equal in volume + the bass sounds tight (you hear the note and then it dies quickly, the sound energy doesn't linger in the room), your bass should be pretty good. That dvd also has a lot of parts where Jack Bruce (bass guitarist) does all sorts of tricks with his guitar (sliding, vibrating, etc.). If the bass set-up is good, you should be able to hear all those tricks. If bass in music sound good, you can be sure that bass in movies will sound great!
Good luck!
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 17, 2009 at 11:03 AM
i have a few questions regarding the following: (forgive my 6 pack on the photos) :)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0157.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0159.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0158.jpg)
what are these settings for?
im not using a sub for now but planning to add by sept. where should i set these at, when i have a sub and when i dont have a sub?
many thanks ^_^
Post by: raptor on Aug 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Thanks a lot for the feedback and the DVD recommendation.
Just saw this post after answering the same question sent via PM and not saving my answer. ;D
Anyhow, I don't think there's any big secret about this. If you have Audyssey, just follow the set-up guide at AVS Forum and 80% of the job is done. It's that good.
The remaining 20% is sub placement and there's a lot of articles in the web about this. Finally, you have acoustic treatment - broadband absorbers and bass traps. There are threads at pinvoydvd about this. You can DIY it easily.
In my experience, there are very few stores which set up their subs properly. Nearly all of them have the subs too loud and with improper eq. And I have heard very few set-ups of members which have impressive bass set-ups (probably the best I've heard is that of Alvinthx and he has tons of experience + equipment).
In order to know if your sub is well set-up, you need to listen to deep bass music. Music ... because we know what it's supposed to sound like. Not explosions because you don't really know what that sounds like unless sundalo ka.
At Landmark, I just saw a copy of the dvd of Cream at Royal Albert Hall. Track 12 has a fantastic sequence of the bass guitar going up note by note for more than an octave. This happens twice, starting at 62:45. If you can hear each note distinctly and they sound equal in volume + the bass sounds tight (you hear the note and then it dies quickly, the sound energy doesn't linger in the room), your bass should be pretty good. That dvd also has a lot of parts where Jack Bruce (bass guitarist) does all sorts of tricks with his guitar (sliding, vibrating, etc.). If the bass set-up is good, you should be able to hear all those tricks. If bass in music sound good, you can be sure that bass in movies will sound great!
Good luck!
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 17, 2009 at 11:33 AM
hi guys,
i have a few questions regarding the following: (forgive my 6 pack on the photos) :)
what are these settings for?
im not using a sub for now but planning to add by sept. where should i set these at, when i have a sub and when i dont have a sub?
many thanks ^_^
Hard to say unless you say exactly how you got to those screens. You need to tell us what the menu options were which made you reach those screens.
It would also be helpful if you tell us what is the model of your Denon.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 18, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Hard to say unless you say exactly how you got to those screens. You need to tell us what the menu options were which made you reach those screens.It would also be helpful if you tell us what is the model of your Denon.thanks for the quick reply bro mark
btw i got those option by accessing "system"
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0160.jpg)
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
many thanks :D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 18, 2009 at 11:34 AM
thanks for the quick reply bro mark
btw i got those option by accessing "system"
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
many thanks :D
What's the model of your Denon AVR?
Post by: threadlock on Aug 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM
thanks for the quick reply bro mark
btw i got those option by accessing "system"
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b352/ninja_babez/IMG_0160.jpg)
Your AVR settings menu seems to be similar to mine. My AVR is Denon 1507, so I'll try to help you out.
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
All frequencies above this cross-over point will be routed to your speakers, while all frequencies below this cross-over point will be routed to your subwoofer, if you have set all the speakers to "Small". if you have set your speakers to "Large", all frequencies will be routed to your speakers, and depending if you have set you Subwoofer setting(SW) to "On" or "Off" your subwoofer will be low-passed at this frequency and will cause some overlaps in some bass frequencies with your speakers.
It is best to set this Cross-over point to 80Hz or 100Hz as recommended by THX and set your speakers to "Small", if you have a subwoofer. As usual, tinker with these settings and let your ears decide. ;D
Gurus, correct me if im wrong. thanks.
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
When using the 7.1 channels External Input, this is the volume adjustment for the subwoofer. Setting it to "SW+5" means the subwoofer level will be 5dB higher than the rest of the channels.
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
This is the volume setting when the AVR is turned on. Setting it to "Last" means the current volume will be set to the last volume setting stored previously, or before the AVR was turned off.
many thanks :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM
btw i never thought that this receiver is capable of 7.1 ???
(http://www.marcush.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/denon-avr1509_back.jpg)
where should i put the "side surround" ???
ill test your answer on number 3. later :D
since i don't have a sub yet for testing your answer's to 1 and 2 ;D ;D
btw what sub and sats are you using? :D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 18, 2009 at 01:06 PM
1. Sp (speaker)
--->12. Cr. Over 120Hz
2. In (input)
---> 9. EXT. In SW
3. op (option ??? )
---> 2. P. On : Last
Ok mga sagot ni threadlock. Just some clarifications:
1. If this is the crossover frequency, once you have a sub, set it to 80 hz or 100 hz (experiment ka lang). Set the sub to LFE only, not LFE+Main and set all speakers to Small.
2. This option exists because there is supposed to be a 10db boost for the LFE channel of DVD's and this is usually done automatically when you use the digital inputs of the AVR. When you use the analog input, depending on the DVD player and the AVR, there is sometimes a wrong setting so the level of the LFE channel can be off, in which case you need to adjust this setting.
The problem with using the analog inputs is that you forego the digital processing in the AVR, particularly Audyssey. Therefore, its a pretty bad idea to use the analog inputs!
3. No additional comments sa sinabi ni threadlock.
Post by: threadlock on Aug 18, 2009 at 02:04 PM
threadlock thanks for the quick reply bro ^_^Currently my setup is still in chaos, and the LCR speakers are mismatched. Currently using MA RS1 for fronts, Yamaha NS-C444 for center and Yamaha NS-333 for surrounds. I have two subs-- One DIY dual Elemental Designs 13Av 7.25 cubic feet for HT use and one DIY dual opposed Infinity Kappa sealed for music use. But im not using the dual 13Av anymore, I banned its use temporarily until I have installed good soundproofing because my 3 neighbors is already complaining. Because while I enjoy the low bass inside my home, my neighbors is wondering if it is already the end of the world. (http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/images/smilies/shakehousedown.gif) :o, just kidding, but I think it just rocks them well over to the point it becomes annoying to their ears(and body). ;D
btw i never thought that this receiver is capable of 7.1 ???
(http://www.marcush.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/denon-avr1509_back.jpg)
where should i put the "side surround" ???
ill test your answer on number 3. later :D
since i don't have a sub yet for testing your answer's to 1 and 2 ;D ;D
btw what sub and sats are you using? :D
You will only have side surrounds if you will be setting a 7.1 setup. In this case you will have a side surrounds and back surrounds. Typical 7.1 setup as recommended by Dolby is like this:
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/speaker-setup-guide/select-config-7-1.html (http://www.dolby.com/consumer/home_entertainment/speaker-setup-guide/select-config-7-1.html)
But usually 7.1 setup is not really used by most forum enthusiasts as only very few titles is actually encoded with 7.1 channels audio. Most audios in movies are still just having 5.1 audio, even most Bluray titles. You can only take advantage of 7.1 if a movie title has 7.1 audio or your receiver is capable of "matrixing" the audio going to the surround speakers via an AVR processing like using the "Dolby Digitial PLIIx" mode which takes the 5.1 audio and processes it to make it 7.1 audio. But I maybe wrong, this is only my understanding about it.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 19, 2009 at 02:26 AM
that's one of the reasons why i had 2nd thoughts in getting a DIY subs, plus the music playback.
im planning to use all polk audio for my speakers (including subs) so in a way paired sila for both audio and movie :)
Ok mga sagot ni threadlock. Just some clarifications:thanks mark :)
1. If this is the crossover frequency, once you have a sub, set it to 80 hz or 100 hz (experiment ka lang). Set the sub to LFE only, not LFE+Main and set all speakers to Small.
2. This option exists because there is supposed to be a 10db boost for the LFE channel of DVD's and this is usually done automatically when you use the digital inputs of the AVR. When you use the analog input, depending on the DVD player and the AVR, there is sometimes a wrong setting so the level of the LFE channel can be off, in which case you need to adjust this setting.
The problem with using the analog inputs is that you forego the digital processing in the AVR, particularly Audyssey. Therefore, its a pretty bad idea to use the analog inputs!
btw follow up q's :)
1. if i don't have a sub installed, does this mean i can't see this option? "LFE only and LFE+Main"
2. i'm using digital thru coax, so i'll just leave it at 0 db or default?
btw i don't know if you noticed this but remember our subwoofer EB last May?
i remembered the DIY subs not able to perform well during the unplugged music videos.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 19, 2009 at 06:46 AM
btw follow up q's :)
1. if i don't have a sub installed, does this mean i can't see this option? "LFE only and LFE+Main"
2. i'm using digital thru coax, so i'll just leave it at 0 db or default?
btw i don't know if you noticed this but remember our subwoofer EB last May?
i remembered the DIY subs not able to perform well during the unplugged music videos.
1. If you don't have a sub, you shouldn't be able to have this option. Those options apply only for the sub.
2. If you use a digital connection, that setting does not apply. It is relevant only if you use the analog inputs (which I don't recommend). Leave it at default.
DIY subs can perform quite well. I think that the main issue during that EB was that the volume of the DIY subs was not properly calibrated so they were pretty loud and tended to drown out the higher frequencies. When you have bullets and explosions, you won't notice it that much but it is noticeable with music.
The other point is that there is a big difference in sound between ported and sealed subs. In my experience, sealed subs are better at reproducing music while ported subs can go deeper and louder. The DIY subs you heard were ported.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 19, 2009 at 08:00 AM
1. If you don't have a sub, you shouldn't be able to have this option. Those options apply only for the sub.thanks again bro :)
2. If you use a digital connection, that setting does not apply. It is relevant only if you use the analog inputs (which I don't recommend). Leave it at default.
DIY subs can perform quite well. I think that the main issue during that EB was that the volume of the DIY subs was not properly calibrated so they were pretty loud and tended to drown out the higher frequencies. When you have bullets and explosions, you won't notice it that much but it is noticeable with music.
The other point is that there is a big difference in sound between ported and sealed subs. In my experience, sealed subs are better at reproducing music while ported subs can go deeper and louder. The DIY subs you heard were ported.
ill keep you guys posted, when i get my sub . :D
Post by: regulus on Aug 19, 2009 at 02:43 PM
have a problem with my 1705 the power button is blinking and when i turn it on it shut down after 5 seconds... help sana with my problem
Post by: mike c on Aug 19, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Hi Sirs medyo OT lang...
have a problem with my 1705 the power button is blinking and when i turn it on it shut down after 5 seconds... help sana with my problem
last chance before sending it in for checkup:
remove all connections, interconnects and speaker wires.
try to start your receiver. most of the time it's speaker wires touching each other.
Post by: regulus on Aug 19, 2009 at 08:07 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 19, 2009 at 10:26 PM
last chance before sending it in for checkup:is this a safety feature of the receiver?
remove all connections, interconnects and speaker wires.
try to start your receiver. most of the time it's speaker wires touching each other.
Post by: mike c on Aug 20, 2009 at 06:04 AM
is this a safety feature of the receiver?
yes, most of the time the receiver displays the word "protect" before shutting down.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2009 at 07:06 AM
last chance before sending it in for checkup:
remove all connections, interconnects and speaker wires.
try to start your receiver. most of the time it's speaker wires touching each other.
Mukhang may direct experience ka nito. ;D ;D
Post by: mike c on Aug 20, 2009 at 07:24 AM
Mukhang may direct experience ka nito. ;D ;D
yes, that's why i praise the day and the inventor of the greatest invention in AV ever ... banana plugs. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2009 at 07:37 AM
yes, that's why i praise the day and the inventor of the greatest invention in AV ever ... banana plugs. ;D
Even better -- twin banana plugs. Banana plugs na d twin can short. I know ... 2 times na putok ang fuse ng amp ko. ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Even better -- twin banana plugs. Banana plugs na d twin can short. I know ... 2 times na putok ang fuse ng amp ko. ;D ;Dproblema bro they dont have a standard :(
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2009 at 01:20 PM
problema bro they dont have a standard :(
There seems to be a standard buy some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard. In that case, that's the end of you. ;D
Post by: raptor on Aug 20, 2009 at 01:58 PM
I was using the media files (audio mp3 and mkv videos) from my TVIX NMT, there's no issue with MP3's, subwoofer was working fine ... on mkv video however, sometimes the subwoofer does not work - since the power switch was set to auto ON, i've noted that the sub does not turn on when playing some of the movie files .... to isolate the issue, i tried using my dvd and an original Eagles Hell Freezes Over DVD concert - with the switch set to auto-ON and initially at OFF state, the subwoofer did not turn ON when I played the video (Hotel California); I then tried setting the power swith to always ON, but there was still no response from the subwoofer.
To confirm that the subwoofer is working, I switched back to the MP3 files - it was working well. Please advise if there are settings that I may have missed. This also frequently happened to me on my old Velodyne VX10 and Onkyo 501 AVR - back then, I thought that either my AVR or subwoofer was already malfunctioning, but after experiencing the same thing on a new subwoofer and less than a year-old AVR, I guess there's something wrong with my setup.
For the physical setup, I guess the connections were right - there's only one RCA port to connect to the PB10NSD and there's only one subwoofer pre-out on the 1909 ...on the configuration, I only modified the following - set all speakers to small, change LFE+Main to LFE, change crossover frequency to 80Hz, and set subwoofer to YES. I haven't had the time to thinker with the input setup, Audyssey, annd others as I started quite late, and cannot comment on the PB10NSD performance yet as it was quite late and I do not want to bother my neighbors.
Hope you can give some advice on the other setup parameters that I need to modify.
Thanks in advance
Post by: mike c on Aug 20, 2009 at 02:10 PM
would you mind checking the channel levels of your receiver? i.e. Left, Center, Right, Subwoofer, etc. (they should be as close to 0db as possible) sometimes audyssey will set the subwoofer channel to -12db when it considers the subwoofer to be too loud.
and is it also possible that each audio input level for each of the sources on your denon receiver had been set differently?
please call 7104673 if you want to try troubleshoot on the phone. :) (or email [email protected])
also whe you said that hotel california did not turn on the sub (whether on auto on or just on) was there a red led light on? it didn't change to yellow when it detected the signal (or when bass frequencies came in)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2009 at 02:23 PM
The sub could switch off, for example, if your input is stereo and the Denon is set-up to output only to the 2 front channels when there is a stereo signal.
Post by: disturbed on Aug 20, 2009 at 02:45 PM
baka nasa setup sir ng avr..double check na lang
Post by: avshop on Aug 20, 2009 at 05:02 PM
anyone interested in a brand new silver Denon 1909. Last unit. Discounted price. :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM
There seems to be a standard buy some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard. In that case, that's the end of you. ;Dnalito ako bro ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 21, 2009 at 08:18 AM
nalito ako bro ;D ;D
My post had a typo. Should have read "There seems to be a standard but some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard."
The distance between the binding posts of speakers (or AVR's) is mostly the same but there are some cases when they are quite different and don't seem to follow a standard.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2009 at 11:32 AM
My post had a typo. Should have read "There seems to be a standard but some speakers and AVR's don't follow the standard."
The distance between the binding posts of speakers (or AVR's) is mostly the same but there are some cases when they are quite different and don't seem to follow a standard.
too bad denon does not follow that standard :-\
hmm sino kaya manufacturer ang sumusunod dito ::)
Post by: raptor on Aug 21, 2009 at 12:05 PM
the SVS pb10nsd subwoofer is working perfectly now ... i do not really know what resolved it, but i did a total reset of my cable connections and setup of the AVR ...everything is working fine now
initial observation on the pb10nsd performance - quite impressive ... i haven't even setup using the Audyssey, i'll be doing that tonight :)
thanks for the support guys
Post by: avshop on Aug 21, 2009 at 01:38 PM
Post by: mike c on Aug 21, 2009 at 03:58 PM
the SVS pb10nsd subwoofer is working perfectly now ... i do not really know what resolved it, but i did a total reset of my cable connections and setup of the AVR ...everything is working fine now
initial observation on the pb10nsd performance - quite impressive ... i haven't even setup using the Audyssey, i'll be doing that tonight :)
thanks for the support guys
that's good to know :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 21, 2009 at 04:33 PM
the SVS pb10nsd subwoofer is working perfectly now ... i do not really know what resolved it, but i did a total reset of my cable connections and setup of the AVR ...everything is working fine now
initial observation on the pb10nsd performance - quite impressive ... i haven't even setup using the Audyssey, i'll be doing that tonight :)
thanks for the support guys
Great! I hope you've read the following Audyssey set-up guide. Invaluable.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14456895#post14456895
Post by: dips15 on Sep 04, 2009 at 04:09 PM
Post by: blued888 on Sep 04, 2009 at 04:54 PM
In the new line of Denon's, what is the cheapest model with pre-outs?
2310, if I'm not mistaken.
Post by: avshop on Sep 04, 2009 at 06:27 PM
In the new line of Denon's, what is the cheapest model with pre-outs?
the 2310. i can give you a good deal on one. come by the shop to check it out. :)
Post by: jeyps11_c on Nov 09, 2009 at 08:59 PM
Seems I have a problem with my 1907. Anything I connect to Optical 1 is not wokring (PS3, WDTV and Pio DVD). Dati naman gumagana siya. Tried using different optical cables wala pa din. Optical 2 and 3 are working fine. Ayaw ko lang yung pag kaka-kabit sa Optical 3 ngayon kasi naka-labas ang cable.
I want to have it checked sana kung ano problema. Baka meron lang sa settings na nagalaw eh.
Post by: retro12195 on Nov 09, 2009 at 10:42 PM
Saan po ang mga authorized service center ng Denon?call 929 5334 LOTTEWORLD authorized service center :)
Seems I have a problem with my 1907. Anything I connect to Optical 1 is not wokring (PS3, WDTV and Pio DVD). Dati naman gumagana siya. Tried using different optical cables wala pa din. Optical 2 and 3 are working fine. Ayaw ko lang yung pag kaka-kabit sa Optical 3 ngayon kasi naka-labas ang cable.
I want to have it checked sana kung ano problema. Baka meron lang sa settings na nagalaw eh.
Post by: toyfanatic on Nov 21, 2009 at 09:33 PM
the 2310. i can give you a good deal on one. come by the shop to check it out. :)
sir san shop mo? do you do trade-in?
Post by: avshop on Nov 22, 2009 at 01:16 PM
sir san shop mo? do you do trade-in?
shop is located at unit 205 Amaremca bldg, 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city. Don't do trade-ins. Sorry. :)
Post by: oweidah on Dec 11, 2009 at 08:38 PM
DENON AVR-1907 For Sale (P16) class A
0939 228 7253
up for you ;D ;D ;D
sir, mukang di ka mapakali ah ??? >:(
Post by: nogie on Dec 11, 2009 at 09:47 PM
up for you ;D ;D ;D
sir, mukang di ka mapakali ah ??? >:(
hehehe.... sige na nga up ko na din! ;D
Post by: bekoy on Dec 27, 2009 at 02:42 AM
Post by: iiinas on Dec 27, 2009 at 06:45 AM
Guys question lang. what's the difference bet. dolby pro logic II and dte neo 6? halos pareho lang naman yata sila when it comes to production ng sound. which is better kaya? thanks! ;D my av reciever is 1609.
its just a difference of implementation by two companies with regards to making ordinary two channel (stereo) audio into multichannel (5.1) audio.
imho, i prefer dts neo for movies and dolby pro logic II : music for music. :)
Post by: bekoy on Dec 27, 2009 at 01:13 PM
Post by: raptor on Dec 30, 2009 at 11:22 AM
thanks sir iinas! ;D btw, ung dolby digital or yung dts gagana lang ba cya kapag naka 7.1? doesn't say anything kasi sa manual. thanks!
this will also work in 5.1 or even 5.0
Post by: Rakenrol on Jan 05, 2010 at 07:30 PM
Newbie po, Just want to ask your opinion sa Denon VR 590 and Denon 1802?
Im planning to buy an entry level or a good priced second hand one.
Thanks
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2010 at 07:58 AM
Good luck on the hunt ;)
Post by: Rakenrol on Jan 06, 2010 at 12:31 PM
My front are Wharfdale 2090, Center is Euro6 from Daichi, surround are Daichi bookshelves and as for sub im getting a new one because my old one, has a built in 5.1 analog receiver. Im planning to get either a down ward firing or a bandpass. Would you reco the 1802 for the set up?
Thanks again
Post by: blackie on Jan 06, 2010 at 01:29 PM
But pretty sure the 1802 can drive them.
Check this out. Specs are on page pp48.
http://www.usa.denon.com/avr1802_ownersmanual.pdf
Cheers ;D
Post by: Rakenrol on Jan 06, 2010 at 01:37 PM
Post by: dips15 on Jan 24, 2010 at 09:39 AM
Any thoughts?
Post by: avshop on Jan 24, 2010 at 11:28 PM
I have a 1709 (us model). The thing I noticed about the lower models is that it doesn't convert analog to digital. If you input via rca or component, your output to the TV will also be analog. Which models start converting to digital? Does the 1910 convert already? This would be an issue for me since I want only the HDMI cable going to my display without the need of additional component cables. (Medyo malayo kasi yung Receiver ko sa display).
Any thoughts?
the 1910 will upscale analog signals to 1080p via hdmi. :)
Post by: timber715 on Jan 25, 2010 at 03:58 AM
1. music is the first priority. 70 to 80% for it. I don't really need something very loud since I have a smallish room. I love Jazz so clarity is something I hopefully get. I was told that Denon shines on this field.
2. I wish that the avr though would be at least 5.1 capable and not limited to stereo.
3. I don't need something new nor a new model, but I wish it to be.
4. I prefer that it is up to date on things that I can use such as HDMI or DTS capable.
5. most of the things I would play would come from a computer, ipod or maybe a built in radio.
6. I still don't have any speakers but was advised to look for celestion or maybe B&W.
7. I will be building this one item at a time when budget allows.
8. entry level would be ok, but since I don't intend to be changing it for a while a mid level one would be preferred. future proof would be great, but if I wouldn't use the feature, then it is just extra expense on me that I can probably live without.
9. budget is requested at 15k but I can save up to buy a good one if I need to.
thank you.
timber
Post by: avshop on Jan 25, 2010 at 09:28 AM
Hello, I'm new here and been meaning to get myself a decent AVR for myself. I'm starting from scratch and know little of the tech talk and jargon yet. I don't really know what an avr can do, if it can send signals to my TV better than a standard player.?. I just would like your advices please on what unit I should consider.
1. music is the first priority. 70 to 80% for it. I don't really need something very loud since I have a smallish room. I love Jazz so clarity is something I hopefully get. I was told that Denon shines on this field.
2. I wish that the avr though would be at least 5.1 capable and not limited to stereo.
3. I don't need something new nor a new model, but I wish it to be.
4. I prefer that it is up to date on things that I can use such as HDMI or DTS capable.
5. most of the things I would play would come from a computer, ipod or maybe a built in radio.
6. I still don't have any speakers but was advised to look for celestion or maybe B&W.
7. I will be building this one item at a time when budget allows.
8. entry level would be ok, but since I don't intend to be changing it for a while a mid level one would be preferred. future proof would be great, but if I wouldn't use the feature, then it is just extra expense on me that I can probably live without.
9. budget is requested at 15k but I can save up to buy a good one if I need to.
thank you.
timber
hi timber, why don't you come by the shop and compare the different avrs. we have denon, onkyo and harman kardon. you can compare them side by side so you can hear the differences for yourself. :)
Post by: timber715 on Jan 25, 2010 at 10:08 AM
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hi timber, why don't you come by the shop and compare the different avrs. we have denon, onkyo and harman kardon. you can compare them side by side so you can hear the differences for yourself. SmileyI probably would one of these days, but it would be nice to know what to look out for...
Post by: hototay on Jan 26, 2010 at 11:33 PM
2310, if I'm not mistaken.
23.. series na pala ang least expensive na denon avr na may pre-out ngayon? my 1907 has pre-outs so di na rin pala ininclude sa 1910.
Post by: timber715 on Feb 05, 2010 at 01:38 AM
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
speakers naman next... maybe in two to three months time I would have a pair that I like... for now I got to settle with these pair of kennies since the amp is busted...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00003.jpg)
Post by: gunslinger on Feb 05, 2010 at 02:07 AM
Post by: timber715 on Feb 05, 2010 at 02:22 AM
Ganda sir. Where did you get it? I'm also saving for the Denon 1910. I would have gotten it last week pero nadivert yung fund ko for some other things. Hopefully, I get to recover the amount in a 2 or 3 weeks para matuloy na.
that was my choice too, but it seems I wouldn't be looking/using for the things the 1910 has that I decided to get the 1909 for less amount. I got it from AVX in Harrison Plaza. they seem to have good prices there and are very easy to talk with... hope you get yours soon... cheers.
Post by: eksi on Feb 05, 2010 at 07:41 AM
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
congrats ser! :)
Post by: John E. on Feb 05, 2010 at 08:58 AM
Post by: timber715 on Feb 05, 2010 at 11:47 AM
Post by: retro12195 on Feb 05, 2010 at 11:56 AM
thanks guys, am very happy with he purchase, except that I am now broke. hehehe.ok lang yan sir.ang mahalaga masaya ka ;D ;DCONGRATS!!
Post by: blackie on Feb 05, 2010 at 03:35 PM
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...ganda black!!!!!!
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
speakers naman next... maybe in two to three months time I would have a pair that I like... for now I got to settle with these pair of kennies since the amp is busted...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00003.jpg)
Post by: Gwenael on Feb 06, 2010 at 12:39 AM
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
sir timber715, congrats on your new receiver ganda! sir aside from 1909, meron din ba kyong nakitang 2309 o 2809?
thanks in advance.
Post by: raptor on Feb 06, 2010 at 12:52 AM
not much to go by in this thread, so I decided to just go ahead and get me a Denon 1909 ;D...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00014.jpg)
speakers naman next... maybe in two to three months time I would have a pair that I like... for now I got to settle with these pair of kennies since the amp is busted...
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t130/timber715/Capture_00003.jpg)
congrats sir ... i'm using the same model and color, got mine a year ago from sights & sounds on the first week that it became available here ... very satisfied with it ... btw, how much is it now?
Post by: timber715 on Feb 06, 2010 at 02:03 AM
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sir timber715, congrats on your new receiver ganda! sir aside from 1909, meron din ba kyong nakitang 2309 o 2809?wala po, pero meron 2805 o 2808 yata yun... not sure.
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congrats sir ... i'm using the same model and color, got mine a year ago from sights & sounds on the first week that it became available here ... very satisfied with it ... btw, how much is it now?a tad below 27k
Post by: John E. on Feb 06, 2010 at 02:15 AM
thanks guys, am very happy with he purchase, except that I am now broke. hehehe.
sir being broke is just the start of this hobby! ;D next time around you'll be sick of what they call SARS( severe audio replacement syndrome ). ;D
you made a good first step! ;) next would be a good pair of speakers!
Post by: timber715 on Feb 06, 2010 at 02:36 AM
Post by: raptor on Feb 06, 2010 at 08:40 AM
sir being broke is just the start of this hobby! ;D next time around you'll be sick of what they call SARS( severe audio replacement syndrome ). ;D
you hit it right at the heart sir ... next you will be thinking - ang laki ng sweldo ko bakit wala akong pera :)
Post by: keema on Feb 06, 2010 at 07:45 PM
Post by: CMac on Feb 06, 2010 at 08:04 PM
Question lang po..i've seen a denon 2310 with pre-outs at the back but when i checked it on the website there's no preouts??
i think i read something about asian/locally distributed 23 series units having pre-outs. si mikec ata yung nagbanggit nun dati.
Post by: avshop on Feb 08, 2010 at 10:30 AM
i think i read something about asian/locally distributed 23 series units having pre-outs. si mikec ata yung nagbanggit nun dati.
yup. the denon 2310 has pre outs. if anyone's interested in getting one just let me know. :)
Post by: dips15 on Apr 02, 2010 at 11:04 PM
I have an AVR 1709 which I bought from amazon through one of our local importers. Its connected to a pair of TSi 100 and CS10 as fronts and 9.dfs as surrounds. Weird thing I noticed is that volume coming from the 1709 seems to be less powerful than my Philips HTIB. I notice this more when watching TV series in divx/xvid formats in stereo from an NMT usually sending audio signals through a coaxial cable. Although when watching 5.1 dts mkvs, volume is generally better, it is still lacking and I have a hard time fully hearing the dialog.
I don't think the speakers are too weak since I still do get a lot of oomph from explosion scenes and get ample volume when listening to stereo (2 channel) audio.
To give you an idea, I was watching American Idol and the volume was really weak and it couldn't fill the room even at maximum volume. Using the same NMT connected to my HTIB, volume is only at 10-15 out of 30 or 40 meaning than with the HTIB I'm only at 33-66 percent. I also tried connecting the NMT directly to the auxiliary input of the AVR via RCA cables and got similar results.
I haven't done audyssey calibration yet since location is still temporary. Will this have some kind of effect on the volume?
Hope anyone has some ideas on how to solve this.
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 03, 2010 at 12:44 AM
Post by: RastaSega on Apr 03, 2010 at 01:14 AM
also how do you connect your source to the receiver?
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2010 at 06:51 AM
Need some inputs just in case anyone has any ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
I have an AVR 1709 which I bought from amazon through one of our local importers. Its connected to a pair of TSi 100 and CS10 as fronts and 9.dfs as surrounds. Weird thing I noticed is that volume coming from the 1709 seems to be less powerful than my Philips HTIB. I notice this more when watching TV series in divx/xvid formats in stereo from an NMT usually sending audio signals through a coaxial cable. Although when watching 5.1 dts mkvs, volume is generally better, it is still lacking and I have a hard time fully hearing the dialog.
I don't think the speakers are too weak since I still do get a lot of oomph from explosion scenes and get ample volume when listening to stereo (2 channel) audio.
To give you an idea, I was watching American Idol and the volume was really weak and it couldn't fill the room even at maximum volume. Using the same NMT connected to my HTIB, volume is only at 10-15 out of 30 or 40 meaning than with the HTIB I'm only at 33-66 percent. I also tried connecting the NMT directly to the auxiliary input of the AVR via RCA cables and got similar results.
I haven't done audyssey calibration yet since location is still temporary. Will this have some kind of effect on the volume?
Hope anyone has some ideas on how to solve this.
You need to calibrate your system so that the channel levels are set up properly. The simplest way to do that is by running Audyssey MultEQ on your AVR.
Is your problem "weak dialogue?" Can you describe where exactly you have located the center speaker?
Post by: dips15 on Apr 03, 2010 at 08:04 AM
na-set mo na ba yung max volume nya?
How do you do that? The only thing I've set on the AVR so far with regard to volume is to set the levels per channel. I have so far set it to the maximum (+12) for FR FL and center.
You need to calibrate your system so that the channel levels are set up properly. The simplest way to do that is by running Audyssey MultEQ on your AVR.
Is your problem "weak dialogue?" Can you describe where exactly you have located the center speaker?
I'll try to find time to run Audyssey. Its not just weak dialogue. As mentioned, this is more apparent on divx/xvid .avi files which only has stereo sound. Tried watching American Idol and volume was weak compared to when I connected the same NMT to my HTIB (both through coax). Since it was in stereo, center channel was not used. But I do have the same problem to a lesser degree on 5.1 DTS files. Still weaker on my Denon than on my HTIB. Similar problem even when connected to a DVD player via coaxial cable.
Don't have the same problem for 2 channel audio listening though. Volume seems fine when listening to audio CDs. Even mp3s played from the NMT sounds ok.
try calibrating it using audyssey .
also how do you connect your source to the receiver?
NMT is connected via HDMI for video and coaxial for audio. Tried using a PS3 which is connected via HDMI for video and optical for audio with the same results. DVD player I used was connected via component and coaxial.
Problem is actually not that bad. Just find it weird that I have to crank it up to maximum to get audible to desireable volume. Action scenes and explosion scenes are still quite loud though that I have to lower the volume. My parents' sala is much larger than my current room and just uses an old entry level onkyo avr (3 series) with b&w 302s and as far as I remember, we don't crank it up that high.
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 03, 2010 at 08:52 AM
btw for the volume naman, there is an option to choose (in my denon 1509) from -10db up to +12db (iirc).
Post by: dips15 on Apr 03, 2010 at 11:08 AM
dips15 are you using pro logic or neo for stereo sources? e.g. american idol?
btw for the volume naman, there is an option to choose (in my denon 1509) from -10db up to +12db (iirc).
No idea. Hehehe. I just assumed it would use pro logic automatically. Will check it out later.
-10 to +12 is the setting per channel right? I've already set them to +12.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2010 at 02:26 PM
No idea. Hehehe. I just assumed it would use pro logic automatically. Will check it out later.
-10 to +12 is the setting per channel right? I've already set them to +12.
The levels per channel should be set through Audyssey so that they are balanced.
There's another setting for input level per source. You can try to crank that up.
Post by: dips15 on Apr 03, 2010 at 10:41 PM
The levels per channel should be set through Audyssey so that they are balanced.
There's another setting for input level per source. You can try to crank that up.
Thanks. Will try to do that tomorrow.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 12, 2010 at 08:36 AM
Post by: jhelenz on Apr 12, 2010 at 11:46 AM
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 13, 2010 at 06:40 AM
Question - ang remote ba ng entry level DEnon AVRs (1907) kaya mag control ng TV (Panny PV80)? I heard that some people use their AVR remote as a universal remote.
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 13, 2010 at 06:46 AM
^Well that is another option.uy UP ko lang .. sana pwede :)
Question - ang remote ba ng entry level DEnon AVRs (1907) kaya mag control ng TV (Panny PV80)? I heard that some people use their AVR remote as a universal remote.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 13, 2010 at 02:35 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on Apr 18, 2010 at 06:23 AM
Will most likely bing this to LOTTE WORLD to have it cheked :-[ :-[ :-[
Post by: pchin on Apr 29, 2010 at 06:59 AM
Ten New Receivers Offer A/V Enhancements and Advanced Technologies at Lower Prices
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/631089.html
Denon Electronics today announced its new line of advanced audio/video receivers with ten state-of-the-art offerings. The lineup features five new affordable, fully featured priced models in the company's popular Retail Home Theater Series line, with expected SRP and availability in parenthesis, including the AVR-991 (SRP: $999, July), AVR-891 (SRP: $799, May), AVR-791 (SRP: $499, May), AVR-591 (SRP: $349, May) and the AVR-391 (SRP: $249, July). These join two new, more advanced 7-channel Models, the AVR-1911 (SRP: $599, June), and AVR-1611 (SRP: $399, June). Also announced are Denon's three new "CI-class" receivers (see separate release) geared toward custom integrators, including the AVR-4311CI (SRP: $1,999, Sept.), AVR-3311CI (SRP: $1,199, June), and AVR-2311CI (SRP: $899, June). The new models will join Denon's AVR-4810CI (SRP: $2,999) and flagship AVR-5308CI (SRP: $5,500) in the company's renowned line of A/V receivers...
Post by: eksi on Apr 29, 2010 at 11:55 AM
^Tinignan ko yung manual ng 1907 and meron mga TV codes. Sana nga gumana. Hanapin ko muna yung AVR remote ko. Been using Harmony, kaso nasira na :-[
gumana na po ba bro jeyps?
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 02, 2010 at 04:06 PM
Finally brought my 1907 to Lotteworld for an inspection on my Optical input. OPT 2 and 3 working just fine and OPT 1 not working at all. Hopefully I get some good news by Tuesday or Wednesday.
Post by: gaol on May 02, 2010 at 07:01 PM
Denon AVR Receivers for 2010
Ten New Receivers Offer A/V Enhancements and Advanced Technologies at Lower Prices
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/631089.html
Denon Electronics today announced its new line of advanced audio/video receivers with ten state-of-the-art offerings. The lineup features five new affordable, fully featured priced models in the company's popular Retail Home Theater Series line, with expected SRP and availability in parenthesis, including the AVR-991 (SRP: $999, July), AVR-891 (SRP: $799, May), AVR-791 (SRP: $499, May), AVR-591 (SRP: $349, May) and the AVR-391 (SRP: $249, July). These join two new, more advanced 7-channel Models, the AVR-1911 (SRP: $599, June), and AVR-1611 (SRP: $399, June). Also announced are Denon's three new "CI-class" receivers (see separate release) geared toward custom integrators, including the AVR-4311CI (SRP: $1,999, Sept.), AVR-3311CI (SRP: $1,199, June), and AVR-2311CI (SRP: $899, June). The new models will join Denon's AVR-4810CI (SRP: $2,999) and flagship AVR-5308CI (SRP: $5,500) in the company's renowned line of A/V receivers...
Wow, Paul, when do you think these receivers will arrive here? I hope in time for you know what! :) How about Onkyo?
Post by: pchin on May 02, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Wow, Paul, when do you think these receivers will arrive here? I hope in time for you know what! :) How about Onkyo?
I'm still eyeing the Onkyo but can't resist the new Denon new line of AVR. At least now we have more options. Will wait till the spec is released. :)
Post by: dips15 on May 03, 2010 at 08:25 AM
na-set mo na ba yung max volume nya?
Now I understand what you mean by setting max volume. Hehehe. Figured this out already. Didin't know there was a max volume limiter. This has taught me how to read manuals.
Post by: ninjababez® on May 04, 2010 at 11:35 PM
Now I understand what you mean by setting max volume. Hehehe. Figured this out already. Didin't know there was a max volume limiter. This has taught me how to read manuals.did it help? :)
Post by: eksi on May 05, 2010 at 01:07 PM
Unfortunately NO. Tried it a couple of time -- well I actually tried all the codes in the manual. :-[
thank you for info bro :)
Post by: dips15 on May 06, 2010 at 03:52 PM
did it help? :)
I believe it did help. Default setting had max volume at -20db. Was wondering about this when I noticed AVRs that I auditioned recently had max volumes from 0 - +10. That was when I decided to look for the maximum volume of my AVR sa manual and chanced upon that setting. -16db is already pretty loud for me so I think this should solve my problems no matter what the source. (Unless the file/media really has weak volume.)
Post by: ment on May 09, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 17, 2010 at 07:56 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 30, 2010 at 05:27 AM
Center and SUb is working just fine. Removed and re-plugged the speaker wires on both the AVR and speaker itself. Tried to configure settings on the AVR as well. But still not getting any sounds from the L and R speakers. What could be wrong or what should I do?
Post by: gunslinger on May 30, 2010 at 08:08 AM
Post by: jeyps11_c on May 30, 2010 at 02:41 PM
Post by: jeyps11_c on Jun 08, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Let me just to provide a background from my previous posts. I suddenly had problems with my 1907's Optical 1 input. There was no sound coming from that connection so stopped using it. Aside from that, everything was all OK. Optical 2 and 3 were working. Coax working and all RCA input are working. Around 3-4 weeks ago I decided to bring my 1907 to Lotteworld to have the Optical 1 fixed (so I can hook my PS3 again directly and enjoy digital sound).
I left my unit there for 2 weeks and kept calling for updates. Finally I was told that the Optical 1 input will no longer be fixed because of an IC that they didn't have in stock and it is too expensive if I were to have it fixed. So I agreed to just pull it out. I figured I lived without using Optical 1 so will just go ahead and do that. I picked up my unit and hooked up everything. I verified again that Optical 1 wasn't working but this time the Front L & R speaker connectors are not working as well (this wasn't a problem previously). Center speaker connector was working fine. I hooked up the left and right speakers to the center connector on the AVR and there was sound coming out (so it is the connector indeed). So I returned my unit to Lotteworld and explained to them the new problem. We tested it in their shop and they were able to verify the problem.
I just called Lotteworld again this morning and this is what they told me..."Sir, yung problema is yung DSP. Yung analog input nyo corrupted na din, meron na distortion". I re-verified if Optical 1 was fixed and it wasn't...I was expecting that. Then the technician added "Yung mga digital input nyo po corrupted na din dahil sa DSP". So I asked, "Pati Optical 2 adn Coaxial hindi ko na magagamit?". "Hindi na sir, pati yun affected na". I told the tech that that wasn't the case when I sent them the unit and he was saying that it was just a matter of time before the thing broke down and that the analog inputs will be the next one to go.
I am speechless, confused and irritated!!! Mainly because 1) I sent my unit working just fine...given that it had an Optical 1 problem everything else was working fine (Optical 2, Coax and analogs) but I will be getting it in a worst condition than I sent it for repair 2) I don't know if the problem was really with my AVR or they did something that messed it all up. And not they are pulling this "DSP ang problema and its just a matter of time bibigay din yan". Malay ko ba kung sila naka-sira and they are passing the problem to me with the BS excuse. In fact, they messed up my speaker connectors when i first pulled out my unit.
Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!
If anyone has any idea for next steps I'd appreciate to hear from you.
Post by: Levijones on Jun 08, 2010 at 12:05 PM
If they insist that the other inputs (FL/FR speakers, coaxial, etc.) were not working in the first place, then it's going to be tougher for you. They might resort to this tactic - but hopefully not. If you have a receipt of the job order stating that only the optical 1 was not working, this will help your case.
Regardless, you should talk in a professional manner to the supervisor first. If he cannot help you, demand to speak with the next higher person. Usually, there is always someone up the chain who is reasonable. In case you exhaust all possibilities, e.g. even the owner won't listen to you, the next step would probably be to file a complaint with DTI. Or perhaps a lawsuit. You may want to get a lawyer if it gets to this point, but if you feel very strongly about the injustice, then hiring a lawyer is worth it.
Another option is to take the unit to a 3rd party repair center / technician that has a good reputation. Unfortunately, I do not know of any such repair center or technician. Maybe other PDVD members could help out.
I also have a Denon (1610) so I thank you for sharing your experience. It might come in handy in case my unit requires repairs later. Good luck to you.
Post by: gunslinger on Jun 08, 2010 at 12:26 PM
LOTTEWORLD AUDIO VIDEO SYSTEMS, INC
CET Building Mezzanine Floor,
No.4 Mindanao Avenue,
Barangay Bahay Toro, Project 8,
Quezon City, PHILIPPINES.
TEL: +63-2 929-5334 / 929-9114
FAX: +63-2 929-1343
Nakakatakot na magparepair kung hindi na covered ng warranty yung unit mo. They can always use the same excuse if ever macompound nila yung original problem that was reported. Tsk.tsk.
I hope you'll be able to clear things up with the management bro. Not only for your sake but for the community as well. We have a lot of Denon users here and it would give peace mind for other owners to know that their service center is still reliable.
Post by: Levijones on Jun 08, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Need some inputs just in case anyone has any ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
I have an AVR 1709 which I bought from amazon through one of our local importers. Its connected to a pair of TSi 100 and CS10 as fronts and 9.dfs as surrounds. Weird thing I noticed is that volume coming from the 1709 seems to be less powerful than my Philips HTIB. I notice this more when watching TV series in divx/xvid formats in stereo from an NMT usually sending audio signals through a coaxial cable. Although when watching 5.1 dts mkvs, volume is generally better, it is still lacking and I have a hard time fully hearing the dialog.
I don't think the speakers are too weak since I still do get a lot of oomph from explosion scenes and get ample volume when listening to stereo (2 channel) audio.
To give you an idea, I was watching American Idol and the volume was really weak and it couldn't fill the room even at maximum volume. Using the same NMT connected to my HTIB, volume is only at 10-15 out of 30 or 40 meaning than with the HTIB I'm only at 33-66 percent. I also tried connecting the NMT directly to the auxiliary input of the AVR via RCA cables and got similar results.
I haven't done audyssey calibration yet since location is still temporary. Will this have some kind of effect on the volume?
Hope anyone has some ideas on how to solve this.
Hi Dips15,
I had a similar experience with my Denon 1610. My previous receiver was a Samsung HT-Z220 head unit (upgraded the speakers to A-Audio). In the Z220, I could watch DVD's at absolute volume "25" (50%). With the Denon, I have to crank it up to 0 db (81%) to be satisfied with the loudness. I was surprised and disappointed, because I always thought the amp of a "real" receiver would be far superior to that of a Samsung HTiB.
I have a 4m x 3m room and already ran Audyssey calibration. The sound by the way is a very good improvement over the Samsung, even with the same A-Audio speakers. It's just the relatively lower volume at a given % that surprised me. If I need to set it to 81% volume just to be satisfied in a 4x3 room, then would this thing even have enough juice for a larger area, like a living room?
To alleviate this, I adjusted the "source level" in the INPUT menu from 0 db to +10 db (max is +12). This boosted my volume by 10 db when watching DVD's, and I am now satisfied with a volume setting of -10 db (71%) when watching movies. I can also adjust the speaker channel levels - if I increase each one by the same no. of decibels, then I think the balance set by Audyssey is maintained. This will give me another +10 db headroom, meaning I can set the volume to 61% and be satisfied with the volume. I decided not to adjust this parameter at this time.
All in all, I think it can get just as loud as the Samsung, but not out of the box. We gotta do some tweaking :) Additional info: I set my max volume level to 0 db (when max setting is off, I can crank it up to +18 db). For FM, the sound is louder so I listen happily at -21 db only.
Post by: barrister on Jun 08, 2010 at 01:37 PM
... Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!...
Thanks for the detailed post. I have a Yamaha 657 and since January, I've been thinking about upgrading to a Denon 2310.
But there was one post on this forum that stopped me:
Hello mga peeps,
Yung Denon DVD-1910 ko 4 months na sa Lotteworld hindi pa narerepair hanggang ngayon. Wala pa raw parts for the Optical Head. Grabe naman. Ang mahal mahal ng product nila tapos ganito quality ng service. >:(
Now that I've read your post, I've finally decided. No Denon for me until service improves.
Post by: Alfie on Jun 08, 2010 at 03:06 PM
I've had a similar experience before with my new Pioneer(one of the 1st 6.1 releases that was affordable), it's a good thing, the amp was still in warranty,and they admitted to the sensitivity of the chips....BTW....the amp is now decommissioned, after it became distorted again, I did not even bothered to have it repaired.
Post by: XanderCage on Jun 15, 2010 at 03:52 PM
regarding dynamic volume, does it support all formats? like DTS, DD, etc.? thanks.
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 15, 2010 at 04:33 PM
hi mga denon users. ask ko lang, cause im planning to change my receiver to a denon.
regarding dynamic volume, does it support all formats? like DTS, DD, etc.? thanks.
Yes.
Post by: wharfejay on Jul 05, 2010 at 09:46 AM
Can you give me your reviews regarding the performance of Denon 1610 receiver? In terms of movies? Stereo listening? I'm considering this because cheaper compare to other receivers.
TIA!
Post by: ment on Jul 05, 2010 at 10:18 PM
onkyo nalang....
Post by: Digities on Jul 06, 2010 at 05:11 AM
Post by: Weng! on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:03 AM
wag ! i came from an onkyo 608 i wasn't really satisfied. i now have a denon 2310. if anything goes wrong within the next year warranty. i plan to change it naman after 2 years or so before anything happens to it.
ganun ba sir? i am scouting for a new receiver w/ the DTS-MA and other audio ek,ek updates and been tempted to get the onkyo 608. currently i am using a denon 2308 which was bought in HK 2 1/2 years ago. i am very satisfied with it, did not experience any problems until now and never ever think about warranty ;D. although behind lang sa current BD audio fad. now i am worried maybe i replace the denon (made in japan pa naman to na unit) with a not so good receiver that falls within my budget and di ako masaya, gastos na naman ;D
Post by: avshop on Jul 06, 2010 at 08:06 AM
ganun ba sir? i am scouting for a new receiver w/ the DTS-MA and other audio ek,ek updates and been tempted to get the onkyo 608. currently i am using a denon 2308 which was bought in HK 2 1/2 years ago. i am very satisfied with it, did not experience any problems until now and never ever think about warranty ;D. although behind lang sa current BD audio fad. now i am worried maybe i replace the denon (made in japan pa naman to na unit) with a not so good receiver that falls within my budget and di ako masaya, gastos na naman ;D
Come by the shop and compare the Denon, Onkyo and Hk receivers. :)
Post by: Digities on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:01 AM
Post by: Weng! on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:14 AM
the denon 2308 and 2310 should have the same power, tama ba? am i missing a lot of details in audio by using only dolby and dts aside from the dolby hd and dts-ma? at the moment, most of my source are mkv files with a few blurays.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:43 AM
thanks avshop nd les888. i will visit these shops when i drop by the metro.
the denon 2308 and 2310 should have the same power, tama ba? am i missing a lot of details in audio by using only dolby and dts aside from the dolby hd and dts-ma? at the moment, most of my source are mkv files with a few blurays.
Hardly any discernible difference between lossless and legacy audio, except with some concerts. That's based on a blind test we conducted 2 years ago.
Post by: Weng! on Jul 07, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Hardly any discernible difference between lossless and legacy audio, except with some concerts. That's based on a blind test we conducted 2 years ago.
sir mark, is it safe to say na pwede na ito at di ko na kelangan mag upgrade? how about other features, mas updated na ba ang audessey sa 2310 model?
my bro will start building an HT and wants to acquire pre-owned gears. i may offer my denon at a dirt cheap price to him then i will upgrade to a better receiver but only within the denon 2310 and onkyo 608 price range.
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Although it's an additional $150 daw to get a license for your receiver, (then magic touch ni streetsmart) but sulit yan if you want accurate sound coming out of your speakers. After hearing the difference Audyssey Pro calibration makes, I am eyeing to get a Denon CI model soon.
Post by: Weng! on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:16 AM
I remember sir streetsmart saying that only the US models with CI can use the Audyssey Pro calibration software to balance the sound frequencies in your room. So make sure you get that 2310CI so you can take full advantage of the feature.
Although it's an additional $150 daw to get a license for your receiver, (then magic touch ni streetsmart) but sulit yan if you want accurate sound coming out of your speakers.
thanks sir ditoy. i will not benefit using the CI version because i don't have the equipment and don't want to buy it. also, i am not from manila where i can have it calibrated by sir mark even for a fee. if the sound of the 2308 and 2310 are almost the same, i will just save my money to purchase other stuff, maybe a PJ ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:23 AM
sir mark, is it safe to say na pwede na ito at di ko na kelangan mag upgrade? how about other features, mas updated na ba ang audessey sa 2310 model?
my bro will start building an HT and wants to acquire pre-owned gears. i may offer my denon at a dirt cheap price to him then i will upgrade to a better receiver but only within the denon 2310 and onkyo 608 price range.
If you want a Denon receiver that is "more or less" future-proof, I suggest you get the 3311. It has Audyssey MultEQ XT (XT is much better than plain-vanilla MultEQ), DSX (for wide speakers especially) and Dynamic EQ. In my view, these are the most critical components. Also, it has very good video processing. In terms of value for money, I think this is the best nowadays.
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Agree buy a pj first ;D
Post by: Weng! on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:31 AM
If you want a Denon receiver that is "more or less" future-proof, I suggest you get the 3311. It has Audyssey MultEQ XT (XT is much better than plain-vanilla MultEQ), DSX (for wide speakers especially) and Dynamic EQ. In my view, these are the most critical components. Also, it has very good video processing. In terms of value for money, I think this is the best nowadays.
thanks for the tip but i guess the 3311 would be somewhere in the thousand or more USD price range todate.
Post by: scifi-fan on Jul 07, 2010 at 11:33 AM
So many things going on right now pretty much obsolete electronics mo within 18 months.
That's why I avoid high-end AVRs unless handa ka to lose big time in depreciation or you are in the biz wherein these gear makes money not just costs money.
I predict AVRs will drop in price because manufacturers will drop SPDIF/RCA connectors within 2 years. Bluray consortium will no longer allow unencrypted signals out thru these ports.
This also means AVRs will shrink because we don't need so much ports in the back. Look for half-height AVRs.
HDMI with built-in ethernet and HDBaseT will be competing for the standards.
Magulo talaga ngayon so ako minimum compliance lang sa AVR.
Post by: ment on Jul 07, 2010 at 12:11 PM
Post by: scifi-fan on Jul 07, 2010 at 12:29 PM
More and more the name of the game seems to be firmware so what developments you see in the media player space will merge into display devices.
People want their TVs to have some sort of internet connectivity for social networking (facebook/netflix) so it's going to be battle between display manufacturers and audio manufacturers. AVR makers don't want their market to shrink so they too will probably put some sort of ethernet/media/player combo to make them competative.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 04:06 PM
I remember sir streetsmart saying that only the US models with CI can use the Audyssey Pro calibration software to balance the sound frequencies in your room. So make sure you get that 2310CI so you can take full advantage of the feature.
Although it's an additional $150 daw to get a license for your receiver, (then magic touch ni streetsmart) but sulit yan if you want accurate sound coming out of your speakers. After hearing the difference Audyssey Pro calibration makes, I am eyeing to get a Denon CI model soon.
brader ditoy mag 4810ci ka na din ba??
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 05:32 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 07:15 PM
Planning stage pa lang so it depends sa end budget ko ;D
wooohooooo, the 4810 owns the distinction of being the only receiver that can run the front wide and front height at the same time. i only know of just one who has it, pag nag kataon dalawa na kayo na mag eenjoy nito;)
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 07:16 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 07:24 PM
haha sadly I don't need that feature because I plan to use it for work in the studio, standard 5.1 and 7.1 lang. No recording studio mix in DSX yet :)
ah. may 4310 na mas mababa or the 3311 as sir mark mentioned,
happy hunting ;) ;D
Post by: gaol on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:00 PM
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp)
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVPA1HDCI_Large_Front.jpg)
Brother Ditoy, ok na ang 4310, at the price you mentioned! ;) ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:02 PM
Brother Tirso, eto ang gusto ni Brother Ditoy: ;)
http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp (http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3922.asp)
(http://www.usa.denon.com/AVPA1HDCI_Large_Front.jpg)
Brother Ditoy, ok na an 4310! ;) ;)
huwawwwwww abay good good good oki nga rud
teka teka brader arn, baka naman ikaw na ang meron nyan ha malihim ka masyado ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:28 PM
arn, 4310CI meron sa ebay ngayon 1 day remaining, selling less than $800 nakakatempt magbid kaso nanga-ngarap pa ako sa higher model ::)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:31 PM
haha binisto ako ni gaol! Yan actually ang target ko pero kelangan pa ng approval ng office haha! least scenario 4310CI na nga. Panay powered studio speakers kasi gamit ko so I need balanced XLR pre-outs which only the AV1HDCI has
wooohoooooo
brader ditoy pwede ba akong pumasyal sa studio mo pag napadpad ako sa Ortigas, may office din ako dyan eh sugod ako sa lungga mo pag magawi dyan at maluwag ang oras mo.
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:33 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:37 PM
The new planned studio is opening along Pasay road, 2nd building left ng Nihonbashi-tei under construction na. Marantz SR5003 and small room palang currently si Pearl drive studio ko but good enough for my work. Iba talaga ang Denon basta na-Audyssey Pro si sir streetsmart :)
should be a very good expereince and learning for me. I havent been to any set up like yours, been to mostly HT set up. :) :)
as for sir mark, the man with the golden hand ;)
Post by: gaol on Jul 07, 2010 at 08:50 PM
huwawwwwww abay good good good oki nga rud
teka teka brader arn, baka naman ikaw na ang meron nyan ha malihim ka masyado ;D ;D ;D
Haha Magdidildil nako ng asin habang buhay niyan pag yan kinuha ko. Mas mababa ang pangarap ko naman hehe
haha binisto ako ni gaol! Yan actually ang target ko pero kelangan pa ng approval ng office haha! least scenario 4310CI na nga. Panay powered studio speakers kasi gamit ko so I need balanced XLR pre-outs which only the AV1HDCI has.
arn, 4310CI meron sa ebay ngayon 1 day remaining, selling less than $800 nakakatempt magbid kaso nanga-ngarap pa ako sa higher model ::)
Onga no, pero used na at may dent sa kanto, baka nabagsak. Brand new sa presyong 3311 okay na. .... ;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Jul 07, 2010 at 09:01 PM
Thanks!
Post by: xyobub on Jul 07, 2010 at 09:31 PM
Denon experts pa-consult naman. Mahal ba or reasonable ang 3808 na approx. 44K pesoss - Pre-Owned Mint.
Thanks!
di po ako Denon Expert, pero sa pagkakaalam ko mura na to, nakapag canvass ako ng Denon 2807 bnew, one of the dealers here in the Middle East SRP 44K also.
Post by: ment on Jul 09, 2010 at 10:51 PM
Post by: SETSUT on Jul 11, 2010 at 06:48 AM
has anyone tried denon 1611 and 1911? first hand review please :)Same question po. Which is better for music use denon 1611 or onkyo 508? TIA.
Post by: Digities on Jul 15, 2010 at 06:28 AM
Post by: SETSUT on Jul 20, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Post by: Paolo123 on Jul 29, 2010 at 02:33 AM
Thanks!
Post by: nogie on Jul 30, 2010 at 02:34 PM
Mga bossing magkano ko kaya mabebenta ang avr-1909 (US, 110v) sa Pinas? 1 year old sya pero good as new condition.
Thanks!
I sold mine for 19k late last year, model is 789 which is basically the same as the 1909. HTH ;)
Post by: Paolo123 on Jul 30, 2010 at 08:53 PM
I sold mine for 19k late last year, model is 789 which is basically the same as the 1909. HTH ;)
Thanks for giving me an idea bro... More power! :D
Post by: lakambini on Aug 01, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Just wanted to give an update on this...
Let me just to provide a background from my previous posts. I suddenly had problems with my 1907's Optical 1 input. There was no sound coming from that connection so stopped using it. Aside from that, everything was all OK. Optical 2 and 3 were working. Coax working and all RCA input are working. Around 3-4 weeks ago I decided to bring my 1907 to Lotteworld to have the Optical 1 fixed (so I can hook my PS3 again directly and enjoy digital sound).
I left my unit there for 2 weeks and kept calling for updates. Finally I was told that the Optical 1 input will no longer be fixed because of an IC that they didn't have in stock and it is too expensive if I were to have it fixed. So I agreed to just pull it out. I figured I lived without using Optical 1 so will just go ahead and do that. I picked up my unit and hooked up everything. I verified again that Optical 1 wasn't working but this time the Front L & R speaker connectors are not working as well (this wasn't a problem previously). Center speaker connector was working fine. I hooked up the left and right speakers to the center connector on the AVR and there was sound coming out (so it is the connector indeed). So I returned my unit to Lotteworld and explained to them the new problem. We tested it in their shop and they were able to verify the problem.
I just called Lotteworld again this morning and this is what they told me..."Sir, yung problema is yung DSP. Yung analog input nyo corrupted na din, meron na distortion". I re-verified if Optical 1 was fixed and it wasn't...I was expecting that. Then the technician added "Yung mga digital input nyo po corrupted na din dahil sa DSP". So I asked, "Pati Optical 2 adn Coaxial hindi ko na magagamit?". "Hindi na sir, pati yun affected na". I told the tech that that wasn't the case when I sent them the unit and he was saying that it was just a matter of time before the thing broke down and that the analog inputs will be the next one to go.
I am speechless, confused and irritated!!! Mainly because 1) I sent my unit working just fine...given that it had an Optical 1 problem everything else was working fine (Optical 2, Coax and analogs) but I will be getting it in a worst condition than I sent it for repair 2) I don't know if the problem was really with my AVR or they did something that messed it all up. And not they are pulling this "DSP ang problema and its just a matter of time bibigay din yan". Malay ko ba kung sila naka-sira and they are passing the problem to me with the BS excuse. In fact, they messed up my speaker connectors when i first pulled out my unit.
Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!
If anyone has any idea for next steps I'd appreciate to hear from you.
Hello Sir,
How's tur 1907? Solved n b problem? Had the same experience before with my denon avr1508, bought it from theaterworks, and similar to ur 1907, i encountered the same problem.
They even replaced the unit with a new item (same model though), but still the same problem existed. This left me no choice but to return the unit and get my money back.
Am very disappointed with Denon, because I am expecting a lot from them, fortunately my 2004 yamaha avr is still serving me well.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Aug 09, 2010 at 06:39 AM
Post by: Digities on Aug 09, 2010 at 06:44 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 11, 2010 at 09:13 AM
i'm wondering when the 2010 models will surface sa market..
Dito sa singapore, i think the 1911 and 1611 are out now. No idea about the pricing though..
Post by: dips15 on Aug 14, 2010 at 09:43 PM
Hope someone who buys early will be able to give us some reviews.
Post by: SETSUT on Aug 15, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Post by: blackie on Aug 16, 2010 at 07:08 AM
I plan to buy 1611 next week. Any reviews mga amigo? Choosing between onkyo 508 & denon 1611. Please help.. Thanks in advance.
Compare feature on feature, ask to audition the receivers if you get the chance ;)
Post by: SETSUT on Aug 16, 2010 at 11:00 PM
Compare feature on feature, ask to audition the receivers if you get the chance ;)Thanks Sir blackie. I'll try to audition both unit. As for my preference, 50-50 ako music-movie. In this case, this is my first HT kaya i don't have any experience in setting up HT. I read a lot of reviews that onkyo 508 has a lot of negative feedback but denon 1611 wala pako masyado nababasa na mga review. Please give us feedback sa mga naka bili na ng 1611. Thanks.
Post by: peechey on Aug 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM
I've been reading some not-so-good feedback for the 508 at another forum that's why I'm considering the Denon 1611 as well.
Post by: Full HD 3D on Aug 25, 2010 at 06:54 PM
http://www.denon100.com/#/en/products/receiver
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 30, 2010 at 02:34 PM
May tanong ako. Yung PS3 kasi nakakabit via "HDMI in" sa 1911. Of course yung "HDMI out" papuntang tv (lcd). Pag nag-play ako ng cd track sa ps3 (wala pa kasi cdp hehe) at inoff ko yung tv nagpa-pause yung song (mga 2-3 secs) then magresume afterwards. ganun din kapag in-on ko na ulit yung lcd: mag pause konti tapos resume na ulit yung playback ??? dahil ba hdmi connection ko?
thanks in advance!
Post by: gunslinger on Aug 30, 2010 at 02:37 PM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 30, 2010 at 03:51 PM
That's normal. Although mine is HK160, same case tayo. I believe kasi yung HDMI passes audio and video kaya ganun. ;)
ah okay, try ko din analog yung connection sigurado wala nang "lag". thanks sir!
Post by: jhun_jhun007 on Aug 31, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Pareho tayo ng prob ShogdGreat. I've been waiting for the Denon 1611 and 1911 to be out in the Philippine market so I can compare the prices with Onkyo's 508 and 608.
I've been reading some not-so-good feedback for the 508 at another forum that's why I'm considering the Denon 1611 as well.
Newbie here.. i was planning also to buy my first AVR and i am considering the onkyo508 & denon1611... from features point of view 508 have the edge.. but accroding to sir Vic (S&S), performance wise get the Denon1611.. :-\
Post by: SETSUT on Aug 31, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Newbie here.. i was planning also to buy my first AVR and i am considering the onkyo508 & denon1611... from features point of view 508 have the edge.. but accroding to sir Vic (S&S), performance wise get the Denon1611.. :-\
Same tayo ng problem before. I was lucky to audition the 1611 and 508 last week in S&S. I ended up to bring the 508. Nagustuhan ko kasi ang tunog ng 508 compare sa 1611. Noticeable yung difference nila sa music listening. Mas maganda ang bass ng 508 sa aking pandinig. Feel ko yung drums dun sa music. Anyway, that is just for me, better to see it for yourself. Audition first before you buy. ;D
Happy ako sa 508 ko using mirage s10 subwoofer and wharf 9.1. ;)
Good luck for your hunting.
Post by: ment on Sep 05, 2010 at 02:14 PM
power consumption of Onkyo 508 is 130W, Denon 1611 is 390 watts
i think this is why SNS is recommending Denon 1611.....
here is the link:
http://www99.shopping.com/xSBS-Onkyo-Onkyo-TX-SR508-7-1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-Black-Denon-Denon-AVR-1611-7-1-Channel-A-V-Home-Theater-Multi-Source-Multi-Zone-Receiver-with-HDMI-1-4a-suppor~PT-xPO~P-1~PRDLT-101257937-101269709
Post by: meister_r on Sep 05, 2010 at 08:10 PM
Newbie po ako, ask ko lang what model ng denon ma drive ang B&W 684 and htm61? im more into HT bout 80%.. MEdyo tight budget bout 30k..
TIA ;D
Post by: blackie on Sep 06, 2010 at 06:41 AM
Post by: powershot on Oct 10, 2010 at 05:06 PM
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
Post by: nogie on Oct 10, 2010 at 05:14 PM
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 10, 2010 at 05:23 PM
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
congrats brader finally the search is over,
enjoy
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 10, 2010 at 07:33 PM
got my 1911 + tsi300 + cs10 + mirage s10 from avshop. medyo kinakapa ko pa mga settings.
tama ba mga settings ko?
FL FR + Center = small
Bass setting:
LFE
120hz
crossover freq:
80hz
Yes, set all speakers to small and LFE at 120 Hz.
For crossover freq, the rule is that it should be equal or higher than what is recommended by Audyssey. Usually better to set it one click higher.
Post by: meister_r on Oct 11, 2010 at 08:16 PM
Yes, set all speakers to small and LFE at 120 Hz.
For crossover freq, the rule is that it should be equal or higher than what is recommended by Audyssey. Usually better to set it one click higher.
Hi sir streetsmart
Is the crossover freq is also applicable to b&w 684 and htm61? what would be the best setup for this speakers? i have 2808ci at 110 wpc. I got my amp about 3 days ago still exprimenting first time denon owner.. I appreciate you guys if can give more inputs bout these pairing of 2808 and b&w 600 series..
Thank you in advance for the advice! :)
Post by: nogie on Oct 11, 2010 at 09:06 PM
Hi sir streetsmart
Is the crossover freq is also applicable to b&w 684 and htm61? what would be the best setup for this speakers? i have 2808ci at 110 wpc. I got my amp about 3 days ago still exprimenting first time denon owner.. I appreciate you guys if can give more inputs bout these pairing of 2808 and b&w 600 series..
Thank you in advance for the advice! :)
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 12, 2010 at 05:30 AM
Hi sir streetsmart
Is the crossover freq is also applicable to b&w 684 and htm61? what would be the best setup for this speakers? i have 2808ci at 110 wpc. I got my amp about 3 days ago still exprimenting first time denon owner.. I appreciate you guys if can give more inputs bout these pairing of 2808 and b&w 600 series..
Thank you in advance for the advice! :)
The correct crossover frequency of a speaker is dependent not only on the characteristic of the speaker itself but also the placement of the speaker and the acoustics of the room. After you run the Audyssey setup, it will give a recommended minimum crossover frequency. You can use that or you can increase the frequency (but don't lower it). Just experiment and choose what you prefer.
If you have a subwoofer and one or more of your speakers has been detected as "Large," change that setting to "Small" and then adjust the crossover frequency, similar to above.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 12, 2010 at 05:49 AM
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
I find this quite unusual. I have a friend who has a 7.1 channel setup, using JMLab speakers (which can go down to 3 ohms) in a 48 square meter room. He uses a Denon 2808 and I never found the power inadequate. Of course, he has 2 big subs and he sets all speakers to "Small" so that also helps. His system can handle volume at 0db and the dialog is very clear.
I have also heard the same Denon 2808 driving a 7.1 system at the AV Driver listening room (which is huge) and it was really loud.
My guess is that it also depends on speaker positioning, room acoustics, the location of your listening position and if you run the Audyssey setup properly. I find that most of the time, when people complain about inaudible dialog, their center speaker is located on a low shelf, near the floor, and even worse, sandwiched between shelves.
Post by: Stagea on Oct 12, 2010 at 08:30 AM
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
Aside from the items already mentioned: Imho, slightly recessed talaga yung vocals ng HTM61. Check mo kung kaya ng EQ/audyssey. :)
Post by: macdon on Oct 12, 2010 at 09:26 AM
Just wanted to give an update on this...
Let me just to provide a background from my previous posts. I suddenly had problems with my 1907's Optical 1 input. There was no sound coming from that connection so stopped using it. Aside from that, everything was all OK. Optical 2 and 3 were working. Coax working and all RCA input are working. Around 3-4 weeks ago I decided to bring my 1907 to Lotteworld to have the Optical 1 fixed (so I can hook my PS3 again directly and enjoy digital sound).
I left my unit there for 2 weeks and kept calling for updates. Finally I was told that the Optical 1 input will no longer be fixed because of an IC that they didn't have in stock and it is too expensive if I were to have it fixed. So I agreed to just pull it out. I figured I lived without using Optical 1 so will just go ahead and do that. I picked up my unit and hooked up everything. I verified again that Optical 1 wasn't working but this time the Front L & R speaker connectors are not working as well (this wasn't a problem previously). Center speaker connector was working fine. I hooked up the left and right speakers to the center connector on the AVR and there was sound coming out (so it is the connector indeed). So I returned my unit to Lotteworld and explained to them the new problem. We tested it in their shop and they were able to verify the problem.
I just called Lotteworld again this morning and this is what they told me..."Sir, yung problema is yung DSP. Yung analog input nyo corrupted na din, meron na distortion". I re-verified if Optical 1 was fixed and it wasn't...I was expecting that. Then the technician added "Yung mga digital input nyo po corrupted na din dahil sa DSP". So I asked, "Pati Optical 2 adn Coaxial hindi ko na magagamit?". "Hindi na sir, pati yun affected na". I told the tech that that wasn't the case when I sent them the unit and he was saying that it was just a matter of time before the thing broke down and that the analog inputs will be the next one to go.
I am speechless, confused and irritated!!! Mainly because 1) I sent my unit working just fine...given that it had an Optical 1 problem everything else was working fine (Optical 2, Coax and analogs) but I will be getting it in a worst condition than I sent it for repair 2) I don't know if the problem was really with my AVR or they did something that messed it all up. And not they are pulling this "DSP ang problema and its just a matter of time bibigay din yan". Malay ko ba kung sila naka-sira and they are passing the problem to me with the BS excuse. In fact, they messed up my speaker connectors when i first pulled out my unit.
Grrrrrrrr!!!! Not sure what are the next steps to take. I am thinking of getting in touch with the Manager/Owner of Lotteworld to get a better explanation for this unfortunate incident. But I don't like the idea that I will end up getting a big paper weight from them when it was working almost perfectly when I sent it.
Digital input and analog input not working...WTF!!!...what am I supposed to do with an AVR that doesn't have any input/output capability!
If anyone has any idea for next steps I'd appreciate to hear from you.
Scary naman eto ::) Isolated case, perhaps?
Post by: mandyb on Oct 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM
PM mo si toybeats... He had the chance to pair B&W 684 htm61 & Denon 2808CI last week. He tried all sort of tweaking, bi-ampling, etc.... Sabi nya bitin daw sa power ang 2808 vs. b&w nya as he can feel the speakers asking for more power. His volume is already set at 0db para lang audible yong dialog. Sayang nga daw kasi malinis tumunog ang 2808 kaya bitin sa B&W 684 nya. ;)
i want to add also that my 2808 is driving 5.1 channels with Ikon6 L,R, center and surrounds
for regular blu ray, average volume would be -12 to 14 db. 0 is too loud in my case.. :) There may be a suspect as mentioned in the last few posts.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Scary naman eto ::) Isolated case, perhaps?
Actually, it's not uncommon to hear complaints about Lotteworld. At the minimum, mabagal sila. At worst, you're not sure about their competence.
Post by: macdon on Oct 12, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Actually, it's not uncommon to hear complaints about Lotteworld. At the minimum, mabagal sila. At worst, you're not sure about their competence.
Ganun ba? ::) Sayang naman. They're the exclusive distro of Denon in the Phil., correct?
Is it common for Denon to make different versions of the same model but sold in different regions? ie, asian vs. US.
I saw a 3311ci online for about $800 :o
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 12, 2010 at 02:24 PM
Ganun ba? ::) Sayang naman. They're the exclusive distro of Denon in the Phil., correct?
Is it common for Denon to make different versions of the same model but sold in different regions? ie, asian vs. US.
I saw a 3311ci online for about $800 :o
Insofar as I know, the main difference between the Denon models is that some US versions may be calibrated by an Audyssey installer. Those are the versions with "CI" which means "Custom Installer."
Post by: macdon on Oct 12, 2010 at 02:48 PM
Insofar as I know, the main difference between the Denon models is that some US versions may be calibrated by an Audyssey installer. Those are the versions with "CI" which means "Custom Installer."
Oh ok, I got that impression kasi when Marc (avshop) told me that the 2310 sold locally has preouts while the US version doesnt have?
Locally bought 3311 doesnt have the "ci" at the end of the model number.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 12, 2010 at 03:01 PM
Oh ok, I got that impression kasi when Marc (avshop) told me that the 2310 sold locally has preouts while the US version doesnt have?
Locally bought 3311 doesnt have the "ci" at the end of the model number.
Only US versions have "CI". That's the main difference I know. There may be others, as you have noted, but I'm not sure.
Post by: meister_r on Oct 12, 2010 at 07:44 PM
The correct crossover frequency of a speaker is dependent not only on the characteristic of the speaker itself but also the placement of the speaker and the acoustics of the room. After you run the Audyssey setup, it will give a recommended minimum crossover frequency. You can use that or you can increase the frequency (but don't lower it). Just experiment and choose what you prefer.
If you have a subwoofer and one or more of your speakers has been detected as "Large," change that setting to "Small" and then adjust the crossover frequency, similar to above.
Thank you mga bossing sa mga inputs! ;D, with regards sa power for me its loud enough di naman masyado malaki room ko. Im just concern about the desired crossover frequency as sir streetsmart was saying will try first to calibrate then make some adjustment..
Good luck sa akin ;D.. will give some feedbacks.. btw i got my 2808ci at user electrohaus_lp at 38k is it a good buy? galing sya US floor display daw ung unit pero in hours of testing ok na ok naman 2808.. again good luck sa akin! ;)
Post by: macdon on Oct 12, 2010 at 08:49 PM
Thank you mga bossing sa mga inputs! ;D, with regards sa power for me its loud enough di naman masyado malaki room ko. Im just concern about the desired crossover frequency as sir streetsmart was saying will try first to calibrate then make some adjustment..
Good luck sa akin ;D.. will give some feedbacks.. btw i got my 2808ci at user electrohaus_lp at 38k is it a good buy? galing sya US floor display daw ung unit pero in hours of testing ok na ok naman 2808.. again good luck sa akin! ;)
Ok yan and mabait pa yan si sir Kelly ;)
Post by: meister_r on Oct 12, 2010 at 09:49 PM
Ok yan and mabait pa yan si sir Kelly ;)
Yes sir macdon two thumbs up for Sir Kelly! :)
Post by: mandyb on Oct 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Thank you mga bossing sa mga inputs! ;D, with regards sa power for me its loud enough di naman masyado malaki room ko. Im just concern about the desired crossover frequency as sir streetsmart was saying will try first to calibrate then make some adjustment..
Good luck sa akin ;D.. will give some feedbacks.. btw i got my 2808ci at user electrohaus_lp at 38k is it a good buy? galing sya US floor display daw ung unit pero in hours of testing ok na ok naman 2808.. again good luck sa akin! ;)
Hi, is the 'CI' indicated on the front panel of the unit next to 2808? Just curious because i dont have it mine although the box has it with 2808ci. I bought mine locally 2years ago and never thought about it until now. :-[
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 13, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Hi, is the 'CI' indicated on the front panel of the unit next to 2808? Just curious because i dont have it mine although the box has it with 2808ci. I bought mine locally 2years ago and never thought about it until now. :-[
If your unit came from the US (110 volts), it's likely a CI unit.
Let me be clearer about what "CI" means in practice -- It means you can have your Denon AVR calibrated by a professional using Audyssey Pro. That is basically a much more sophisticated version of the Audyssey MultEQ calibration because it uses an individually calibrated and very accurate microphone, can do 32 mic positions, can select the target curve (depending mainly on the size of your room) and can create a filter which is optimized for your specific crossover.
In order to do this, you need a professional Audyssey calibrator who will purchase the license for you and then do the actual calibration, using his equipment. The cost of the license is $150, cost of calibration varies.
Insofar as I know, I am the only Audyssey Pro calibrator in the Philippines. ;D
Post by: macdon on Oct 13, 2010 at 01:06 PM
Insofar as I know, I am the only Audyssey Pro calibrator in the Philippines. ;D
Ayan naman pala eh ;D
So how does one pay the $150 calibration license? ........and more importantly, how much does the only pro calibrator in the philippines charges? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 13, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Ayan naman pala eh ;D
So how does one pay the $150 calibration license? ........and more importantly, how much does the only pro calibrator in the philippines charges? ;D
For the calibration license, I have to be the one to purchase it kasi you have to be a licensed pro calibrator to get the license.
For the other charges, sa US, calibrators usually charge $300. Ako ... ewan ko pa. Siguro kung si Venus Raj, libre. ;D ;D
Post by: mandyb on Oct 13, 2010 at 01:19 PM
If your unit came from the US (110 volts), it's likely a CI unit.
Let me be clearer about what "CI" means in practice -- It means you can have your Denon AVR calibrated by a professional using Audyssey Pro. That is basically a much more sophisticated version of the Audyssey MultEQ calibration because it uses an individually calibrated and very accurate microphone, can do 32 mic positions, can select the target curve (depending mainly on the size of your room) and can create a filter which is optimized for your specific crossover.
In order to do this, you need a professional Audyssey calibrator who will purchase the license for you and then do the actual calibration, using his equipment. The cost of the license is $150, cost of calibration varies.
Insofar as I know, I am the only Audyssey Pro calibrator in the Philippines. ;D
Hi Streetsmart,
i guess its not a ci unit since its 220v :(
Thank you for the clarification, greatly appreciated. ;D
Post by: macdon on Oct 13, 2010 at 02:29 PM
For the other charges, sa US, calibrators usually charge $300. Ako ... ewan ko pa. Siguro kung si Venus Raj, libre. ;D ;D
Hahahahahahahahahaha :D :D
Post by: jao143 on Oct 13, 2010 at 02:38 PM
Ayan naman pala eh ;D
So how does one pay the $150 calibration license? ........and more importantly, how much does the only pro calibrator in the philippines charges? ;D
Sir Question, pwede bang gamitan ng Audyssey and ibang AVR gaya ng Yamaha?
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 13, 2010 at 03:06 PM
Sir Question, pwede bang gamitan ng Audyssey and ibang AVR gaya ng Yamaha?
Audyssey MultEQ is an electronic room-correction technology that compensates for the peculiarities of the room. It is used by Denon, Onkyo, Integra, Marantz and NAD. IMHO, Audyssey technology is leading-edge and they keep pushing the envelope every year with new inventions. The other year, they had Dynamic EQ which compensates for lower bass and treble perception at volumes which are lower than reference. Last year, they came out with Audyssey DSX which enables you to have 11 channels + subs. This year, they have MultEQ XT32 which provides a huge jump in room correction power.
Other receivers have their own technologies. Yamaha has YPAO while Pioneer has MCACC. I'm not familiar with them.
In short, Yamaha doesn't use Audyssey. AFAIK, the only way to use Audyssey technology with other AVR's is through the Audyssey Sound Equalizer (I think it is $2500!) and the SVS AS-EQ1 subwoofer correction (which Mike C is selling locally).
Post by: Tempter on Oct 26, 2010 at 05:41 PM
Napansin ko kasi dun sa Denon AVR-1911 na 8-ohms lang ang nakalagay sa specs, does this mean na hindi nya kaya idrive ang 6-ohm speakers ko?
TIA
Post by: Weng! on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM
what could be the problem?
btw, my receiver is a 2308.
Post by: jao143 on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM
Post by: Weng! on Oct 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Sir, suggestion lang, have you tried removing replugging the speaker wires? Or baka naman yung polarity nung mga nakakabit na speaker wires?
sir, i've ran audyssey many times with my current system and never have encountered out of phase problem. unfortunately, by just changing to a new center speaker (w/ dual 6.5" drivers) the problem arise.
Post by: staind01 on Oct 29, 2010 at 03:07 PM
I saw a 3311ci online for about $800 :o
where is this sir? thinkin of gettin the 3310. mura na e. is $200+ price diff to the 3311 worth it?
Post by: ment on Oct 29, 2010 at 11:28 PM
is the center speaker brand new? i mean hindi naman kaya na tampered internal niya?
Post by: Weng! on Oct 30, 2010 at 09:10 AM
out of phase? :( hmmm .... weird kasi ang idea ko is ibabaligad mo palng speaker polarity dapat ayus na yan ......
is the center speaker brand new? i mean hindi naman kaya na tampered internal niya?
problem solved na mga sir. binaliktad ko ang terminals tapos ran audyssey again.
thanks ;)
Post by: Beefy on Oct 30, 2010 at 12:45 PM
sir, i've ran audyssey many times with my current system and never have encountered out of phase problem. unfortunately, by just changing to a new center speaker (w/ dual 6.5" drivers) the problem arise.
On the 1910, it states on the manual that for some speakers, audyssey shows an error of having polarities reversed even if you have it connected properly. It recommends to just ignore the message.
I encountered this when running audyssey, and on one of the speakers, it showed an error in polarity. I checked the connections and just ignored the message.
Post by: CMac on Oct 30, 2010 at 02:00 PM
but last month i encountered the same phase message with the center speaker, checked it, baliktad nga nung naglinis ako hehe. so always check para sure kung amp or human error. :P
Post by: Tempter on Oct 30, 2010 at 11:33 PM
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/denon-avr-a100-fl
Post by: bryan338 on Oct 31, 2010 at 05:46 AM
im using denon 1910, tatanong ko lang sa mga fellow denon users, naka on ba yung dynamic range volume niyo? sakin kasi naka on tapus naka set sa day para mas malinaw yung voice sa center, kasi pag naka off medyo mahina ang voice.. thanks po sa reply.
btw im using polk audio cs10 center, then auto configuration ng audyssey is L/C/R/SR/SL -5/-5/-5/0/+2. what i did is yun center ginawa kong -1 :D
Post by: siggwiz on Oct 31, 2010 at 02:44 PM
Post by: staind01 on Oct 31, 2010 at 03:30 PM
thinkin of gettin the 3310. mura na e. is $200+ price diff to the 3311 worth it?
anyone?
Post by: jnazareta on Nov 07, 2010 at 09:37 AM
Post by: powershot on Nov 08, 2010 at 01:18 AM
hello guys,
im using denon 1910, tatanong ko lang sa mga fellow denon users, naka on ba yung dynamic range volume niyo? sakin kasi naka on tapus naka set sa day para mas malinaw yung voice sa center, kasi pag naka off medyo mahina ang voice.. thanks po sa reply.
btw im using polk audio cs10 center, then auto configuration ng audyssey is L/C/R/SR/SL -5/-5/-5/0/+2. what i did is yun center ginawa kong -1 :D
same experience here using denon 1911,. Mahina ang vocals nya. Sa Onkyo 608 mas labas yung vocals nya pero still too bright for my taste, settings ko nga pala Bass +3, treble -6, dynamic EQ:on;light
Post by: joelsoldao on Nov 08, 2010 at 08:05 AM
Eto po kasi meron sakin.
1.Sp 2.In 3.Op
Speaker Setup
12Cr.Over: 80Hz
12Cr.Over:Adv
13 Cr.F : 80Hz
alin po dito dapat baguhin? sensya n po. newbie po ako sa ganito.hehe
Thanks po ng marami!:)
Post by: Weng! on Nov 08, 2010 at 09:12 AM
biglang nawala ang Audyssey MultEQ na naka highlight dati sa screen ng denon 2308 ko. di ko rin mahanap ang audyssey selection sa Room Equalization settings, ON and OFF nalang. is there a way to restore the previously stored Auto Cal or i have to re-run Audyssey again? the speaker setup eg. distance, db, x-over & etc are still intact except for the Audyssey light not appearing anymore on the receiver's screen.
thanks
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 08, 2010 at 10:25 AM
mga masters,
biglang nawala ang Audyssey MultEQ na naka highlight dati sa screen ng denon 2308 ko. di ko rin mahanap ang audyssey selection sa Room Equalization settings, ON and OFF nalang. is there a way to restore the previously stored Auto Cal or i have to re-run Audyssey again? the speaker setup eg. distance, db, x-over & etc are still intact except for the Audyssey light not appearing anymore on the receiver's screen.
thanks
Normally, you can set Audyssey MultEQ on or off. Sounds like it is off now so just turn it on. You don't have to re-run MultEQ.
Post by: jeyps11_c on Nov 15, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2010 at 04:15 PM
San ko kaya pwede dispose and Denon 1907 ko. Usable pa naman sa analog, sabi sa Lotte World sira na daw ang digital input (toslink and optical). But the analog inputs and everything else is working perfectly. Sayang naman kung ibenta lang sa bote dyaryo.
mahal po ba ang mag pagawa sayang naman baka pwede pagawa then benta
Post by: jeyps11_c on Nov 15, 2010 at 04:38 PM
mahal po ba ang mag pagawa sayang naman baka pwede pagawa then benta
Unfortunately mahal pagawa nung board para sa mga digital input. So hindi din worth it pagawa then benta. Baka lugi lang in the end. Kung papagawa mas ok pa yan i-keep na lang as a 2nd gear.
Post by: avshop on Nov 15, 2010 at 05:01 PM
hello guys,
im using denon 1910, tatanong ko lang sa mga fellow denon users, naka on ba yung dynamic range volume niyo? sakin kasi naka on tapus naka set sa day para mas malinaw yung voice sa center, kasi pag naka off medyo mahina ang voice.. thanks po sa reply.
btw im using polk audio cs10 center, then auto configuration ng audyssey is L/C/R/SR/SL -5/-5/-5/0/+2. what i did is yun center ginawa kong -1 :D
after running audyssey you can still tweak the settings to personal preference. with your current setting i suggest increasing the levels of the center. dynamic range volume can actually muffle the sounds depending on the setting.
Post by: joelsoldao on Nov 16, 2010 at 09:57 AM
Thanks!
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2010 at 10:31 AM
safe po ba 120hz ung crossover frequency sa lahat ng speakers?
Thanks!
Unless you have really tiny speakers (like those packaged in small HTIBs), then yes.
Post by: Weng! on Nov 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Normally, you can set Audyssey MultEQ on or off. Sounds like it is off now so just turn it on. You don't have to re-run MultEQ.
hi sir mark, i have checked the "room equalization" menu, di pala ON and OFF kundi "ON and Manual" nalang ang selection ngayon. before when audyssey was ON, there were few selections like ON, Manual, Audyssey bypass L/R and Audyssey Flat. now, dunno what to do other than re-run audessey but will wait muna your reply.
thanks
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM
hi sir mark, i have checked the "room equalization" menu, di pala ON and OFF kundi "ON and Manual" nalang ang selection ngayon. before when audyssey was ON, there were few selections like ON, Manual, Audyssey bypass L/R and Audyssey Flat. now, dunno what to do other than re-run audessey but will wait muna your reply.
thanks
"Manual" means that Audyssey is OFF. With "Manual", you can use a 6-band (I think) parametric equalizer which is a very poor substitute for Audyssey MultEQ.
Post by: Weng! on Nov 18, 2010 at 07:41 AM
"Manual" means that Audyssey is OFF. With "Manual", you can use a 6-band (I think) parametric equalizer which is a very poor substitute for Audyssey MultEQ.
ok, that means time to run audessey again :(. it happened to me twice already even i locked the settings after each calibration. i was hoping to pull the saved settings somewhere on the menu.
thanks
Post by: joelsoldao on Nov 19, 2010 at 06:27 AM
LFE=120hz
fronts=?
surrounds?
Thanks!
Post by: iiinas on Nov 19, 2010 at 06:35 AM
ano po the best crossover freq for all speakers (except LFE)?
LFE=120hz
fronts=?
surrounds?
Thanks!
i think 80hz would be the safest bet.
Post by: joelsoldao on Nov 19, 2010 at 06:40 AM
Post by: Euphony101 on Nov 23, 2010 at 05:08 PM
Napansin ko lang po na parang maraming quality issues sa denon receivers particularly sa mid to lower end units that came out in the past 3 years.
Is this becoming a generalization for denon's build quality? :-\
Post by: scifi-fan on Nov 23, 2010 at 08:59 PM
Plays everything I throw at it.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 27, 2010 at 04:18 AM
Mga Bossing,kasama ba ang 1509?
Napansin ko lang po na parang maraming quality issues sa denon receivers particularly sa mid to lower end units that came out in the past 3 years.
Is this becoming a generalization for denon's build quality? :-\
wala kasi akong naging issue sa 1509 ko, meron pala paminsan-minsan na user error ;D
Post by: ichimaru_kenpachi on Dec 05, 2010 at 09:34 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 05, 2010 at 10:06 AM
just have a noob question here.pag binago ung settings like ung crossover freq and volume on each speakers after ng audessey calibration kailangan ba naka ON ung Dynamic volume (dyn eq: ON) and MultiEQ nakaset sa audessey? ano po ba recommended settings. ;Dturn off dynamic volume.
read more about Audyssey Dynamic Volume
(http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamicvolume.html)
Post by: ichimaru_kenpachi on Dec 05, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 05, 2010 at 01:46 PM
so bale master, set the multiEQ to audessey then dynamicEQ to OFF? ok lang po ba yun?
for late night viewing and you dont want to disturb anyone, turn ON Dynamic Volume and dynamic EQ ON dapat para maski tahimik maganda parin ang tunog.
check out the link i provided below. just to have an idea how dynamic volume works ;)
eto naman sa Audyssey Dynamic EQ
(http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamiceq.html)
Post by: ichimaru_kenpachi on Dec 05, 2010 at 05:14 PM
Post by: meister_r on Dec 06, 2010 at 03:33 PM
for late night viewing and you dont want to disturb anyone, turn ON Dynamic Volume and dynamic EQ ON dapat para maski tahimik maganda parin ang tunog.
check out the link i provided below. just to have an idea how dynamic volume works ;)
eto naman sa Audyssey Dynamic EQ
(http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dynamiceq.html)
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 06, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;D
MultEQ XT is better sir. in fact your CI i believe menas you can get Audyssey Pro done to your, not many receivers are capable of that.
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 06, 2010 at 09:42 PM
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;Dmeron yan bro ;D
Post by: Tempter on Dec 06, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Ang galing dynamic EQ! Kaso wala yung 2808ci ko Multi EQ XT lang :'(... Medyo na iskandalo mga kapit bahay hehe ;D
Yeah, unfortunately dynamic EQ and dynamic Volume is not in 2808CI... :-\
Post by: meister_r on Dec 07, 2010 at 08:03 PM
meron yan bro ;D
Sir wala sa face ng AVR eh, wala rin ako nabasa sa manual hehe san kaya nakatago to!?! ??? nakita ko lang talaga Multi EQ..
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 07, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Sir wala sa face ng AVR eh, wala rin ako nabasa sa manual hehe san kaya nakatago to!?! ??? nakita ko lang talaga Multi EQ..
Yeah, unfortunately dynamic EQ and dynamic Volume is not in 2808CI... :-\mukhang wala nga. sorry did not have enough time to research, 2809CI pala yung nabasa ko, my bad :-\
Post by: Tempter on Dec 07, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 17, 2010 at 08:55 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 17, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Hi peeps! :) I notice that some Denon receivers, during setting up or calibration, they can seem to view details on the LCD screen. Why can't I? How is it connected? I own a 1509...can it be done with this receiver? ???
Up ko lang to for advice... ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM
Up ko lang to for advice... ;Dhi martin, ill ask joel to try this. :)
you can pm avshop to confirm, may masteral sa pag control ng receivers yun eh :)
Post by: nogie on Dec 17, 2010 at 12:21 PM
Up ko lang to for advice... ;D
Di ko rin napalabas sa Denon 789 yong UI sa LCD brader pero sa higher model like 2808, 3806 at 4306 wala namang problema, pagpindot mo ng menu kita agad sa LCD.
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Di ko rin napalabas sa Denon 789 yong UI sa LCD brader pero sa higher model like 2808, 3806 at 4306 wala namang problema, pagpindot mo ng menu kita agad sa LCD.bro denon 789 ba ang counterpart ng 1509?
Post by: nogie on Dec 17, 2010 at 12:35 PM
bro denon 789 ba ang counterpart ng 1509?
1909 bro ang katapat ng 789.
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM
i swear i was able to use the gui via 1509. or was it another receiver? ;D
martin pm avshop and ask him what i auditioned .. IIRC 1 onkyo, 2 denons and 1 hk. but that was last year bro :-\
hope he remembers :D
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 17, 2010 at 09:08 PM
higher model pala sya weird :D.
i swear i was able to use the gui via 1509. or was it another receiver? ;D
martin pm avshop and ask him what i auditioned .. IIRC 1 onkyo, 2 denons and 1 hk. but that was last year bro :-\
hope he remembers :D
Sige I will Pm him. Thanks for the tip brader Ninj! ;D
Post by: trackers888 on Dec 31, 2010 at 12:57 PM
May tanung lang ako, I have Denon 2808 AVR, Mission floorstander, Mission Center and Mission Surround Speaker. Can you recommend a setting sa AVR para magamit ko mamaya during salubong? Nag try ako play disco music increase the volume pero hindi ko ma feel ang bayo. Walang base :D
Post by: barrister on Dec 31, 2010 at 01:11 PM
Diyan madalas masira ang speakers. Pag sobrang taas na ng volume, nagkakaroon na pala ng grabeng distortion, hindi mo pa napapansin kasi busy sa celebration.
Mapapansin mong may damage ang speakers mo, January 2, 2011 na :D.
Post by: Carlo777 on Dec 31, 2010 at 01:20 PM
Delikado pang-salubong yan sir.
Diyan madalas masira ang speakers. Pag sobrang taas na ng volume, nagkakaroon na pala ng grabeng distortion, hindi mo pa napapansin kasi busy sa celebration.
Mapapansin mong may damage ang speakers mo, January 2, 2011 na :D.
Boss what are the signs of damaged speakers?
Medyo first timer kasi kami sa mga HT systems ;)
Post by: trackers888 on Dec 31, 2010 at 01:29 PM
Delikado pang-salubong yan sir.
Diyan madalas masira ang speakers. Pag sobrang taas na ng volume, nagkakaroon na pala ng grabeng distortion, hindi mo pa napapansin kasi busy sa celebration.
Mapapansin mong may damage ang speakers mo, January 2, 2011 na :D.
Owsss sayang naman, so pang movie lang talaga to?
Any recommendation or suggested upgrade i have to make para magamit sa ganitong occasion in a future?
Change speaker, add sub woofer add amplifier? Bihira na kasing gamitin, sayang lang
Post by: barrister on Dec 31, 2010 at 01:53 PM
Medyo mahal kasi yung Denon. Hindi yan pang-isports, pang-pamilya lang ... :D
Buy cheap speakers, yung high impedance & high sensitivity.
High impedance & high sensitivity para hindi mapagod ang Denon. Cheap para OK lang kahit bumigay ang speakers ...
Happy New Year!
Post by: trackers888 on Dec 31, 2010 at 02:12 PM
Thanks anyway Sir! ;)
Post by: barrister on Dec 31, 2010 at 02:44 PM
Boss what are the signs of damaged speakers?
Medyo first timer kasi kami sa mga HT systems ;)
Listen for distortion at low to mid volumes. Crackling sounds are the giveaway.
If it's a torn cone or torn surrounds (suspension), you'll see it upon inspection. They're caused by too much movement (overexcursion). When the torn material vibrates, you hear some crackling sound.
Sometimes, there's no tear on the cone or surrounds, yet you still hear crackling. That's usually caused by deformity resulting from overheating. An overheated voice coil causes deformity; the deformity causes misalignment, causing the voice coil to rub/grind against something (maybe the center pole or magnet) as it vibrates; the rubbing/grinding causes the crackling sound.
Post by: RastaSega on Jan 01, 2011 at 02:48 AM
Hi peeps! :) I notice that some Denon receivers, during setting up or calibration, they can seem to view details on the LCD screen. Why can't I? How is it connected? I own a 1509...can it be done with this receiver? ???
di kaya yan ng amp mo. yung higher models kaya. 1609 yung akin and wala din on screen display.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 01, 2011 at 07:29 AM
di kaya yan ng amp mo. yung higher models kaya. 1609 yung akin and wala din on screen display.
That sucks brader Rasta! :( Upgrade...? :D
Post by: barrister on Jan 01, 2011 at 02:44 PM
Hindi ko pinapansin dati kasi high-end models lang ang meron noon, pero common na yan ngayon. For 2010, all Denon models have on-screen displays, but I think the lower models have a text-based OSD rather than a real GUI. Siguradong meron din for all 2011 models, baka mas maganda pa.
Tamang-tama, wait for Denon's 2011 models, then upgrade.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 01, 2011 at 03:15 PM
Happy new YEAR to all! ;)
May tanung lang ako, I have Denon 2808 AVR, Mission floorstander, Mission Center and Mission Surround Speaker. Can you recommend a setting sa AVR para magamit ko mamaya during salubong? Nag try ako play disco music increase the volume pero hindi ko ma feel ang bayo. Walang base :D
you need a sub. depending on your budget, you can contact pilyo for a diy or mikec for an SVS ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 01, 2011 at 09:02 PM
you need a sub. depending on your budget, you can contact pilyo for a diy or mikec for an SVS ;)OT: san na pala yung mga diy mo bro? :D
massive enclosures din yung mga yun eh :)
Post by: mhellx on Jan 01, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Post by: Weng! on Jan 02, 2011 at 01:24 AM
OT: san na pala yung mga diy mo bro? :D
massive enclosures din yung mga yun eh :)
still using both of them. they blend well with the SVS speakers ;)
Post by: RastaSega on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:33 AM
That sucks brader Rasta! :( Upgrade...? :D
yan din iniisip ko. pero wag muna. maybe near the end of the year or early next.
there are so much new innovations to come out sa ating mga entry level avr's.
hdmi1.4, ethernet (internet radio), iphone as remote control, etc.
kung merong mga ganito then it's worth the upgrade. pero it's more exciting for me to just wait and see what are the next big things. so far ok naman receivers natin e :D
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 03, 2011 at 08:58 AM
yan din iniisip ko. pero wag muna. maybe near the end of the year or early next.
there are so much new innovations to come out sa ating mga entry level avr's.
hdmi1.4, ethernet (internet radio), iphone as remote control, etc.
kung merong mga ganito then it's worth the upgrade. pero it's more exciting for me to just wait and see what are the next big things. so far ok naman receivers natin e :D
Wow! I didn't know about these things...thanks for letting me know brader Rasta! ;) I guess it's best to wait it out. ;D
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 05, 2011 at 11:36 AM
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
Post by: CMac on Jan 05, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
sabi sabi lang yan, and the description kinda caught on. ;D Who can really say say what "musical" is, right? ;D if i'm not mistaken, 1 of the resident sellers was the first to review the top 3 receivers and he pitted them against each other (denon, onkyo, HK). and HK ended up as the winner for being the most musical. denon coming in a close second.
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 05, 2011 at 01:01 PM
sabi sabi lang yan, and the description kinda caught on. ;D Who can really say say what "musical" is, right? ;D if i'm not mistaken, 1 of the resident sellers was the first to review the top 3 receivers and he pitted them against each other (denon, onkyo, HK). and HK ended up as the winner for being the most musical. denon coming in a close second.
I just read lang kahapon a Denon was compared to its similar Onkyo model and though they both sound superb sa movies, slightly better ang SQ ng Denon using the same setup. So you mean HK is even better for music?
Post by: CMac on Jan 05, 2011 at 01:09 PM
I just read lang kahapon a Denon was compared to its similar Onkyo model and though they both sound superb sa movies, slightly better ang SQ ng Denon using the same setup. So you mean HK is even better for music?
nopes sir. that's what they're saying since i don't have all 3 to compare. i also went for denon dahil sa being "musical" nga raw. maybe being musical is being more "dynamic"? who really knows. ;D what i'm trying to say is, mahirap kumuha ng opinion if no one really has all the receivers in front of them to compare. so it's up to you to do that on your own by auditioning them yourself. it's better if you already have speakers in mind because they make the most difference in terms of SQ imo.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 05, 2011 at 01:29 PM
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
I used to own a Yamaha receiver. I know that Yamaha is really built for HT. But when I heard the Denon receivers, they actually sound better for HT. That's the reason I upgraded to a Denon 1509. :)
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 05, 2011 at 01:42 PM
Post by: Stagea on Jan 05, 2011 at 03:17 PM
Is it true that for music lovers, Denon is the AVR of choice (70% music, 30% movies)?
And saan ba nakakabili ng Denon?
It all depends on your preference and your gear. List your "must have" features, and the "good to have" ones. Identify the models that would fit your needs. Listen to them all, if it's possible... then decide. :)
Post by: Conan on Jan 05, 2011 at 03:47 PM
Mukhang papunta 1911 ang HT build-up ko ah. Any views about this model compared to other 30K'ish ones?
The 1911 would usually be pitted against the Onkyo 608 as they are in the same price range and I think that these are the two most popular receivers for HT.
For Denon - Has Audyssey MultEQ compared to 2EQ for Onkyo
- Supposedly more musical but this a bit subjective
For Onkyo - On paper has 10 more watts per channel but could actually be more based on the Onkyo's larger electric current demand.
- THX Select2 Plus certified
What is not seen on paper is that you have to match the receiver with the speakers that you will actually use in order to arrive at the desired sound quality.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 05, 2011 at 10:26 PM
still using both of them. they blend well with the SVS speakers ;)nice. akala ko dispose mo na :)
I just read lang kahapon a Denon was compared to its similar Onkyo model and though they both sound superb sa movies, slightly better ang SQ ng Denon using the same setup. So you mean HK is even better for music?character na daw kasi ng mga receiver yun. :)
eto pa madalas kong nababasa dati.
onkyo best for HT, now that i got an onkyo receiver, i now know why. :)
compared to what i had before, medyo mas matapang nga ang bass nya plus that fact that it is a bit brighter than my previous denon receiver.
btw when i bought my denon receiver about over a year ago, i had the chance to compare it with an HK receiver, at that time feeling ko lamang na lamang yung HK (sa music) when used with the JBL and wharfe, but when we used the polk speakers that im buying, nagbago isip ko, i decided to get the denon 1509. :D
now i have an onkyo 508 and aaudio speakers, i decided to talk to the guy who bought my denon receiver (1509). since he has a lot of bluray titles and PS3 games, and most of my media is just 5.1 DD and DTS ONLY, we decided to do a week of trial.
win win situation incase mag decide kaming mag-trade, he wants/needs the advance features that my onkyo has to offer and i on the other hand wanted/missed the SQ that my denon used to deliver. 1 week trial lang since im not using the same polk speakers, baka magsisi rin ako, kasi masaya naman ako sa onkyo ko ngayon, baka mas mapasaya lang ako ng denon ;D
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:11 AM
It all depends on your preference and your gear. List your "must have" features, and the "good to have" ones. Identify the models that would fit your needs. Listen to them all, if it's possible... then decide. :)
The only gears I have are the five-100w speakers from my old HTIB and I will use these to setup a 5.0 HT (passive lang kasi sub ko so I may not be able to connect it to the receiver). But eventually the speakers will be upgraded so wala pa talaga akong pang test. Planning/Baby steps ika nga ang build-up.
My must have is definitely an HT that leans more to "great music" than movie audio. Lahat naman ata may good reviews about having this quality but I can find more articles on this about Denon than others. Syempre you have to pair it with the speakers that will sing to it.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:28 AM
The 1911 would usually be pitted against the Onkyo 608 as they are in the same price range and I think that these are the two most popular receivers for HT.
For Denon - Has Audyssey MultEQ compared to 2EQ for Onkyo
- Supposedly more musical but this a bit subjective
For Onkyo - On paper has 10 more watts per channel but could actually be more based on the Onkyo's larger electric current demand.
- THX Select2 Plus certified
What is not seen on paper is that you have to match the receiver with the speakers that you will actually use in order to arrive at the desired sound quality.
diba onkyo advertised their rated power at 2 channel driven and not all 7 channels. if so, what do you think is the actual power if all 7 channels driven?
i own a denon but forgot to check if their claim is also the same, 2 channel driven only.
i want to upgrade my receiver to onkyo but with the budget i have looks like i will only a side grade (power wise) :D. there are lots of new features available now that i do not need like hd audio (after reading the a/b test about a minimal to no difference than conventional dd/dts audio), 3d, networked unit & etc. all i'm interested is the front height speaker which is not available in my receiver now.
what do you guys think about getting a new onkyo receiver with the same power rating of a denon?
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 07, 2011 at 08:36 AM
For Denon - Has Audyssey MultEQ compared to 2EQ for Onkyo
- Supposedly more musical but this a bit subjective
For Onkyo - On paper has 10 more watts per channel but could actually be more based on the Onkyo's larger electric current demand.
- THX Select2 Plus certified
A great feature of this Denon model is also the built-in Ipod connectivity (through USB and not a dock). About Onkyo's THX Select2 naman, around 5 feet away lang naman ako sa LCD so this will not matter.
Post by: 9ume6 on Jan 12, 2011 at 07:35 AM
will use as HT 60% Music 40%
tnx to anyone!
Post by: sanction214 on Jan 14, 2011 at 03:23 PM
Post by: Beefy on Jan 14, 2011 at 10:37 PM
diba onkyo advertised their rated power at 2 channel driven and not all 7 channels. if so, what do you think is the actual power if all 7 channels driven?
i own a denon but forgot to check if their claim is also the same, 2 channel driven only.
i want to upgrade my receiver to onkyo but with the budget i have looks like i will only a side grade (power wise) :D. there are lots of new features available now that i do not need like hd audio (after reading the a/b test about a minimal to no difference than conventional dd/dts audio), 3d, networked unit & etc. all i'm interested is the front height speaker which is not available in my receiver now.
what do you guys think about getting a new onkyo receiver with the same power rating of a denon?
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 15, 2011 at 12:48 AM
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.bumping :)
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 15, 2011 at 06:21 AM
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
This is normal. The power ratings of AVR's are usually for 2-channel only. They have a single power supply which all channels share. Therefore, when you run multi-channel, the average available power per channel drops dramatically.
On the other hand, movies normally do not have all channels going full-blast at the same time. The surrounds are usually more quiet than the fronts.
Post by: Conan on Jan 15, 2011 at 08:08 AM
Home theater Magazine August 2010 tested the Onkyo 608( rated at 100 Watts per Channel at 8 Ohms) to have an actual output of 30.9 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion and 40.1 watts x 7 channels at 1% distortion. All at 8 ohms.
Does anyone know if denon amps produce power near their rated specs?
It might be less since the power consumption of Denon is less compared to the Onkyo.
Post by: Beefy on Jan 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM
It might be less since the power consumption of Denon is less compared to the Onkyo.
Less power consumption doesn't always equate to less power output. Efficiency is the key.I have an amp which draws less current but produces more power than my other amp which draws more current.
Post by: Beefy on Jan 15, 2011 at 12:43 PM
This is normal. The power ratings of AVR's are usually for 2-channel only. They have a single power supply which all channels share. Therefore, when you run multi-channel, the average available power per channel drops dramatically.
On the other hand, movies normally do not have all channels going full-blast at the same time. The surrounds are usually more quiet than the fronts.
Yes. But on the same magazine, the Cambridge audio Azur 650R(rated 100 watts/channel) was tested to have an actual output of 128.5watts x 5 channels and 91.5 watts x 7 channels at 0.1% distortion.
Arcam avr500 produced power near their rated specs as well when driven 7 channels continuously.
I replaced my 130 watt Yamaha with a 105 watt rated denon and didn't noticed the change in volume requirement which made me think of the actual power these denons produce as i can't find a magazine that test those avrs.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM
how about harman kardon, their published power are lower than the competition. was there a test done by Home Theater Magazine?
Post by: gaol on Jan 15, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Denon AVR-2311ci rated at 105wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 83.3 watts
1% distortion at 91.5 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 66.3 watts
1% distortion at 74.7 watts
Denon AVR-4310ci rated at 130wpc (my current AVR)
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 113.8 watts
1% distortion at 131.0 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 104.6 watts
1% distortion at 116.6 watts
-- Sound and Vision Mag has almost similar measurements for the Denon AVR-4310ci at 5 channels and 7 channels driven.
Denon AVR-4810ci rated at 140wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 123.5 watts
1 percent distortion at 148.2 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads: ***
0.1 percent distortion at 30.9 watts
1 percent distortion at 36.0 watts (Protection Engages)
*** Apparently this one has an Auto Protection Circuit that engages when the AVR is pushed to its limits at 7channels driven. But as streetsmart mentioned, all channels driven to the max is a rare occurrence in real life viewing.
Post by: Beefy on Jan 15, 2011 at 01:58 PM
Home Theater Mag measures the following Denons thus:
Denon AVR-2311ci rated at 105wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 83.3 watts
1% distortion at 91.5 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 66.3 watts
1% distortion at 74.7 watts
Denon AVR-4310ci rated at 130wpc (my current AVR)
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 113.8 watts
1% distortion at 131.0 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 104.6 watts
1% distortion at 116.6 watts
-- Sound and Vision Mag has almost similar measurements for the Denon AVR-4310ci at 5 channels and 7 channels driven.
Denon AVR-4810ci rated at 140wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 123.5 watts
1 percent distortion at 148.2 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads: ***
0.1 percent distortion at 30.9 watts
1 percent distortion at 36.0 watts (Protection Engages)
*** Apparently this one has an Auto Protection Circuit that engages when the AVR is pushed to its limits at 7channels driven. But as streetsmart mentioned, all channels driven to the max is a rare occurrence in real life viewing.
Just what I was looking for thanks gaol! ;D
What issue or month was the 2311 tested?
Post by: gaol on Jan 15, 2011 at 01:59 PM
NAD T747 rated at 60wpc
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 99.7 watts
1% distortion at 114.0 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 66.8 watts
1% distortion at 79.8 watts
Post by: gaol on Jan 15, 2011 at 02:04 PM
Just what I was looking for thanks gaol! ;D
What issue or month was the 2311 tested?
Here's the link:
http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-2311ci-av-receiver (http://www.hometheater.com/content/denon-avr-2311ci-av-receiver)
This review was posted Dec. 15, 2010, published Dec. 15 also.
Post by: Conan on Jan 15, 2011 at 05:06 PM
Less power consumption doesn't always equate to less power output. Efficiency is the key.I have an amp which draws less current but produces more power than my other amp which draws more current.
That's why I said "might". My experience with Denon is I first purchased a Denon 1611 receiver from Sights and Sounds contrary to the advice of one of the salesmen that the Onkyo counterpart 508 was more powerful. When I got home indeed the 1611 was weak. I returned it immediately and chose the Onkyo 608 over the Denon 1911 based on my internet research that the receiver with a higher power consumption would more likely pump in more watts to the speakers. Anyway the Onkyo 608 produces 80 watts with 5 channels being driven so that is enough for me as I have no intention to use 7 channels in my bedroom. I can't find any measured output figures for the Denon 1911 and 1611 online.
Post by: SETSUT on Jan 15, 2011 at 06:27 PM
That's why I said "might". My experience with Denon is I first purchased a Denon 1611 receiver from Sights and Sounds contrary to the advice of one of the salesmen that the Onkyo counterpart 508 was more powerful. When I got home indeed the 1611 was weak. I returned it immediately and chose the Onkyo 608 over the Denon 1911 based on my internet research that the receiver with a higher power consumption would more likely pump in more watts to the speakers. Anyway the Onkyo 608 produces 80 watts with 5 channels being driven so that is enough for me as I have no intention to use 7 channels in my bedroom. I can't find any measured output figures for the Denon 1911 and 1611 online."My experience with Denon is I first purchased a Denon 1611 receiver from Sights and Sounds contrary to the advice of one of the salesmen that the Onkyo counterpart 508 was more powerful." I agree bro. At first im eyeing on Denon but when we test both onkyo 508 and denon 1611, I found that 508 is far apart than 1611 that's why i go home with my new onkyo 508.
Tested this receiver during New Year with my wharfedale 9.6 and 9cm then I played the "Time of my life" by Black eyed peas I expect to give me the gapang bass im looking for and the 508 didn't disappoint me. At the volume of 45, swabeng-swabe ang bayo. :D
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 17, 2011 at 10:08 AM
Post by: Conan on Jan 17, 2011 at 02:18 PM
Im now having second thoughts on the Denon. Power wise, it may be a bit weaker than the Onkyo counter part. Haizz sobrang tagal na ng window shopping ko... :(
Which model were you planning on? I've listened to a Denon 2311 and it sounded quite good (with an all Klipsch set-up at Spectra) and the specs from earlier posts confirm the good power available.
Post by: fattyacid on Jan 17, 2011 at 03:09 PM
Which model were you planning on? I've listened to a Denon 2311 and it sounded quite good (with an all Klipsch set-up at Spectra) and the specs from earlier posts confirm the good power available.
Onkyo's counterpart of 2311 is 708 which is a bit cheaper but has more power and features which include pre-outs and and an additional sub out. Kumbaga taob ang 2311 compared to 708 in almost all aspects. But initially I'm eyeing 1911 and anlayo ng price difference niya sa 708 for just some added power and features. Sana may magbenta ng 708 niya... sakin. ;D
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 24, 2011 at 09:07 AM
Reason for asking: I just found a rather attractive deal somewhere near, and I've been itching to see "DTS-HD" or "TrueHD" indications in my TV room. Hehehe. And I've been wondering why Denons in general are lighter compared to other brands...even the volume knobs are light. ;)
Thank you!
Post by: burnikulski on Jan 24, 2011 at 09:42 AM
Post by: joelsoldao on Jan 24, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 24, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Mga Tsip, can someone enlighten about the quality of Denon 3808 as a standalone multi-channel AVR. I think the owners (in this board) of this high-level AVR are mostly using pre-out for the fronts. However, I have no plans of piggy backing an AVR to a power amp so I hope to get some feedback as to how this particular model can be expected to perform on its own in a 5.1 configuration.
Reason for asking: I just found a rather attractive deal somewhere near, and I've been itching to see "DTS-HD" or "TrueHD" indications in my TV room. Hehehe. And I've been wondering why Denons in general are lighter compared to other brands...even the volume knobs are light. ;)
Thank you!
A Denon 3808 is an excellent AVR, including its power amps. As long as your room is not that big or you don't listen too loud, you should be fine.
Post by: Tempter on Jan 24, 2011 at 11:52 AM
try mo recalibrate then adjust mo yung volume per channel ganun ginawa ko sakin. ;D
What model yung Denon nyo sir? So ganon din pala sa Denon?
Post by: burnikulski on Jan 24, 2011 at 12:13 PM
try mo recalibrate then adjust mo yung volume per channel ganun ginawa ko sakin. ;D
Ganon ba bro. Actually, natry ko lang sa friend ko, I was actually researching because Im planning to get a new receiver kaya basa-basa and queries muna.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 24, 2011 at 01:11 PM
malaki ba ang improvement sa system ko kung mag add ng power amp like a Rotel RB-985 (THX certified) 5-Channel Power Amplifier with 5 x 100w rms at 8 ohms? i'm using a denon 2308 with 7 x 100w (daw??). i know it does not deliver that much in real world. gusto ko lang malaman kung talagang night and day ang improvement niya na makalimutan ko ang ginastos dahil sa saya ;D
thanks
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 24, 2011 at 01:35 PM
mga sirs,
malaki ba ang improvement sa system ko kung mag add ng power amp like a Rotel RB-985 (THX certified) 5-Channel Power Amplifier with 5 x 100w rms at 8 ohms? i'm using a denon 2308 with 7 x 100w (daw??). i know it does not deliver that much in real world. gusto ko lang malaman kung talagang night and day ang improvement niya na makalimutan ko ang ginastos dahil sa saya ;D
thanks
For a long time, I believed that the power amp can make a big difference. After a lot of experience with different amps, I started to doubt this. Then, I read this extremely interesting article. If you can tell the difference between 2 amps, this guy will award you $10k:
http://www.tom-morrow-land.com/tests/ampchall/index.htm
Post by: Conan on Jan 24, 2011 at 01:49 PM
Quick question lang mga bros, may nakakaexperience ba ng parang low volume level sa Denon? Yung tipong kelangan mo i-crank up ng husto ung volume knob just to get decent sound? Para kasing sa Onkyo ganon.
It will really depend on the amplifier's actual watts per channel and the speaker's sensitivity. Were you listening in stereo, 5.1 or 7.1 channel mode? How big is the room?
Post by: burnikulski on Jan 24, 2011 at 02:00 PM
It will really depend on the amplifier's actual watts per channel and the speaker's sensitivity. Were you listening in stereo, 5.1 or 7.1 channel mode? How big is the room?
Tried on 5 and 2 channels only, no sub. About sensitivity not sure because the speakers used were from an old minicomp.
The room is about 4 x 4 meters, with lots of objects all around.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 24, 2011 at 02:11 PM
thanks for the link.
@sir conan,
my room is 5x5 meters and using 5.1 system (actually 2 diy subs with one amp, dunno if its called 5.2 ;D). i'm using an SVS S series speakers, have to check the sensitivity later.
i noticed that when i'm watching alone or with 2 other peeps in the room, at -12db volume setting is already loud. but if there are about 5-8 people in the room even with not much noise, i have to bump up the volume to -5db or sometimes 0 db just to get the right loudness. tried to go +5db one time and the sound is not distorted naman.
so, do i really need an external amp? sometimes lang naman maraming tao sa tv room ko. most of the time ako lang mag isa ;D
Post by: Conan on Jan 24, 2011 at 03:00 PM
Tried on 5 and 2 channels only, no sub. About sensitivity not sure because the speakers used were from an old minicomp.
The room is about 4 x 4 meters, with lots of objects all around.
If the speakers came from a mini-component then check if the impedance is 8 ohms or 4 ohms. If it's 4 ohms then your receiver will have to be capable of driving 4 ohm speakers, if not then you run the chance of overheating and damaging the receiver. That could also be the reason why the receiver is having a hard time driving the speakers.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 24, 2011 at 05:35 PM
did anyone bench test the power amps if they actually delivers their rated power?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 24, 2011 at 06:46 PM
got some pm and text that the power amp did not do much better than the receiver's amp. we all know that the receivers actual power is below rated.
did anyone bench test the power amps if they actually delivers their rated power?
To give you an idea, during the Hifi show last November, the HT room of AV Driver had a Denon A100 amp, which is rated at 140 wpc for 9 channels. The actual rating for all channels driven is much lower than that. Nonetheless, it was driving 7 speakers very loud in a big room. Wala problema. It sounded beautiful.
Post by: burnikulski on Jan 24, 2011 at 10:32 PM
If the speakers came from a mini-component then check if the impedance is 8 ohms or 4 ohms. If it's 4 ohms then your receiver will have to be capable of driving 4 ohm speakers, if not then you run the chance of overheating and damaging the receiver. That could also be the reason why the receiver is having a hard time driving the speakers.
The impedance are ranging from 6 to 8 Ohms so no problem there, the receiver (as per manual) is capable of driving 4 - 16 Ohms. What's funny to me is, even the Tuner sounds tinny. When these speakers are connected to the Minicomp, they sound better, if not louder.
Post by: Weng! on Jan 24, 2011 at 10:37 PM
To give you an idea, during the Hifi show last November, the HT room of AV Driver had a Denon A100 amp, which is rated at 140 wpc for 9 channels. The actual rating for all channels driven is much lower than that. Nonetheless, it was driving 7 speakers very loud in a big room. Wala problema. It sounded beautiful.
thanks sir mark, now i fully understand what you mean ;)
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 25, 2011 at 12:48 PM
A Denon 3808 is an excellent AVR, including its power amps. As long as your room is not that big or you don't listen too loud, you should be fine.
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
Post by: ricky on Jan 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
Bro clon maybe you may want to stretch your budget and get the onkyo 876, 3007 or 3008 ;) yung HDMI 1080p upscaling powered by HQV Reon-VX ay sulit na sulit :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 25, 2011 at 12:59 PM
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
If your room has space for Wide speakers, I would get the Onkyo 1008. Otherwise, the Denon is a better value.
Post by: gaol on Jan 25, 2011 at 01:01 PM
Thanks Streetsmart. Which do you think is the better buy, a $700 display unit Denon 3808 (it's practically new) or a brand new Onkyo 1008 for $900? Thanks again.
Hi Alan,
Lamang ang Onkyo 1008 for HDMI 1.4/3D and THX certification.
Lamang and Denon 3808 for MultEQ XT (MultEQ lang sa 1008 according to their US site).
As for how it sounds, it's subjective, some prefer the Onkyo while others Denon.
Cheers!
To me, if 3D is not important, I'd choose the MultEQ XT of the Denon for the room correction/calibration, plus I prefer its sound.
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 25, 2011 at 01:45 PM
Ricky-san: "Rekta" ang basic policy ko. So instead of relying on a video processor/upscaler in between, I prefer buying a good 1080p HDTV. I guess I simply don't know what I'm missing yet. Tsaka I'd rather spend the extra money on more HDDs and plane ticket. hehehe
Mr. Streetsmart: I certainly have no space (and sturdy wall-mounting options) for wide speakers in my 3.5mx4.5m TV room, kaya hanggang 5.1 lang ang set-up ko. Gusto ko lang maganda at buo ang tunog kahit low volume. ;).
Hi Arn: 3D. Oo nga no. So if I opt for the 3808 and if ever I get a 3D HDTV, I can get 3D video but won't have the proper/extra HDMI output for HD audio? Thats means optical connection/legacy soundstream lang ang puede kong gawin? Is it possible to split the HDMI 1.4 output so I'd have one going to the HDMI 1.3 AVR and another na direct to an HDMI 1.4 3DTV? What about our A200, how are we going to do that when the A200 becomes 3D capable? With a PC, it is easy to imagine running independent HDMI connection from the graphics board and the sound board respectively.
Thanks again.
Warm regards!
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 25, 2011 at 01:50 PM
If you have the Denon 3808 and you want 3D, get a 3D player which has 2 HDMI outputs - one for the TV (video) and the other for the AVR (audio). Ang alam ko ay maraming player with 2 HDMI outputs, precisely to solve the issue you're facing.
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 25, 2011 at 02:00 PM
The only remaining but trivial concern is why Denon's volume knob is too light. ;)
I remember the 1st time I purchased an AVR in the 90s, the seller advised me that better AVRs have heavy weight and heavy knobs. ;D
Post by: gaol on Jan 25, 2011 at 02:45 PM
I didn't realize that the Onkyo 1008 has only Audyssey MultEQ, not MultEQ XT. Big difference in favor of the Denon 3808.
If you have the Denon 3808 and you want 3D, get a 3D player which has 2 HDMI outputs - one for the TV (video) and the other for the AVR (audio). Ang alam ko ay maraming player with 2 HDMI outputs, precisely to solve the issue you're facing.
That's one of the reasons why a lot of people consider the Onkyo 1008 a downgrade from the Onkyo 1007, and also why Paul chose the 1007 instead of the 1008 for his setup.
@Alan,
Ayan pala sinagot na ni Mark, you would need to get a 3D BD player with dual HDMI outs. As for our A200, I'm not sure. Actually, the A200/A210 itself has only HDMI 1.3, which they say is not 3D-capable.
Cheers!
Post by: ichimaru_kenpachi on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:11 AM
Post by: Conan on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:14 AM
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
That's the usual recommendation when you read the manual of most Audyssey equipped receivers.
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:14 AM
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
It depends on the subwoofer. Pero, for most subwoofers, yes...12 o'clock is a good starting point. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:36 AM
Question mga master. Kailangan ba naka 12 o'clock yung volume knob ng subwoofer pag mag audessey calibration?
It depends on the sub. The important thing is that after the calibration, check the level of the sub. It should not hit -12 db or +12 db (those are the limits of the Denon receivers).
The usual problem is that the level is set at -12 db, which means that the volume knob is too high. Just lower it a bit and then re-run Audyssey.
Post by: ichimaru_kenpachi on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:46 AM
Post by: joelsoldao on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:48 AM
Post by: bryan338 on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Yung center mo nalang baguhin mo if parang kulang sau ung volume then pag kulang lahat add ka nalang ng +2db sa lahat depende sau.hehe
sa ibang brand ba ng avr like onkyo or yamaha, mahina din ba ang center volume? kailangan din ba dagdagan atleast 2db or more para marinig ang voice? tia
Post by: Conan on Feb 02, 2011 at 05:18 AM
sa ibang brand ba ng avr like onkyo or yamaha, mahina din ba ang center volume? kailangan din ba dagdagan atleast 2db or more para marinig ang voice? tia
Normally yes but it depends also on the movie.
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 02, 2011 at 05:28 AM
sa ibang brand ba ng avr like onkyo or yamaha, mahina din ba ang center volume? kailangan din ba dagdagan atleast 2db or more para marinig ang voice? tia
The source plays a real vital role on the sound output of not only the center speaker, but the whole set-up. :)
Post by: jao143 on Feb 02, 2011 at 07:23 AM
The source plays a real vital role on the sound output of not only the center speaker, but the whole set-up. :)
This is correct. The video source is really important. That is why I shy away from crappy movie downloads, I rather buy BDs or very good quality jacksparrow, pag less than 1GB kse ang mga files pansin ko, di maganda yung audio output parang 2.0 lang sya.
Re: center speaker, I used to have some irritation with my previous set-up, even after calibration, I still need to increase the center volume by 2-4 dbs. May be this is due to the speaker-avr combination? But now, I rarely adjust the center volume, again, depende sa source or movie... :)
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 02, 2011 at 07:50 AM
Post by: Conan on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:34 AM
How is the quality of the current Denon receivers? Nakabasa kasi ako ng review na low quality yung mga parts na ginagamit nila. Dahil ba sa made in China sila?
Almost everything is made in China nowadays. Can you point to the source of the review that you read?
Post by: Weng! on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:49 AM
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:28 AM
Almost everything is made in China nowadays. Can you point to the source of the review that you read?
But I haver never seen a china made ONKYO unlke Denon which almost all new models are from china.
I've pasted here the review of the 3805:
Summary:
I've read a lot of positive reviews so when I had a chance to buy it for cheap as defective I didn't hesitate to shell out $100 - why not? I was thinking that the chance of repairing it was slim but all the problem was $0.01 thermal fuse within power transformer and just shorting it I got fully working 3805 five minutes later I opened the cover.
Well, let's see what inside. Many components especially power caps are pathetic! How do they think these tiny caps will be able to provide any current to drive 7X120W amps? I have Sony TA N77ES power amp and it has 4 (four) BIGGER caps in just pre-drive section, not to mention 6 monster caps which provide current for 2X120W output cascades.
Back to Denon - cheap and thin printed boards, caps are OK - ELNA, nickel plated cheap RCA sockets, all the decoding circuits fit the cigarette pack size printed board which is not even shielded. Most of the corners are cut literally. I was thinking that $1500.00 list price receiver should have more than just 3 gilded sockets (I'm not even sure that three front RCA sockets are gilded on this Denon - the yellow color is suspicious). Well let's stop chuckling and start listening.
First it requires some setup... I'd like to remind Denon engineers that we are living in XXI century and even $30.00 Chinese DVD players have color menu with some graphics - 3805 brings us back to DOS - black screen with white letters in 320X240 resolution. Menus are complicated and not intuitive. Some of the settings require pressing of "<" button instead of central "ENTER" button which can infuriate most patient user. I have very complicated system and I'm complication junkie but this is beyond my patience. The remote sucks - almost unreadable in daylight and to understand what mode is turned on now you have to carefully review rows and rows of tiny inscriptions which haven't any borders to distinguish one from another.
Display is laughable - cheap greenish color looks so unsophisticated and
OK, initial settings done at last and... the sound is as pathetic as power caps. Thin and lacking bass even in stereo mode. I don't know what reviewers were comparing it to but this Denon was easily beaten by 1989 Sony STR-D2020 and 1997 Technics SA-TX30 receivers I have in other rooms. I'm not even mentioning Sony TA-N55ES and TA-N77ES amps which eat this Denon for breakfast. My front 60 lbs each, four feet front channel towers each with two 10" woofers ($2300.00 list price) mated with this Denon sounded almost the same as small shelf speakers I use for surround. After spending hours trying to understand menus I discovered that auto setup rolled off bass quite significantly but restoring EQ to flat and even using direct and pure direct (whatever they meant!) modes didn't help much. The bass just still is not there - it's OK for artifical movie explosions and helicopter blades but tight, solid, rolling bass of well recorded musical instrument just don't comes out of this Denon.
Video section is good but when I tried to make some video recordings through it I discovered that rec out setup is absolutely stupid and frustrating to use. Moreover, rec out audio doesn't output the converted digital signal! - only analog inputs. Rec out is united with Zone 2 output and this complicates setup even more. To simply make a copy from one VCR to another requires complicated rec out setup procedure and often it's easier to reconnect the cables than to search for this function in complicated manual because it's impossible to memorize or find it intuitively.
Then I discovered that it can't downconvert component video. It can upconvert any video input (composite or s-video) to component which is OK but why they didn't add couple of ICs to downconvert component video is puzzling.
To the attention of Denon engineers - I have Sony preamp which has input renaming function and it was made back in 1989...Here we are almost 20 years later and Denon folks haven't figured out how to include extra 2 kilobytes of memory and couple of strings of commands in microcontroller code to ease the life of user who has to scratch his head recalling what he connected to DBS input. I have 3XVCRs, LD and DVD players justconnecting and using them is a pain in the...
Speaker terminals are very cheap - I seen a better terminals on $100 Chinese home theaters in a box. Too small for any decent cables, can't connect spades.
Overall it is very complicated and not user friendly. Dispaly and remote are hard to read and understand.
Can't recommend it especially for list price.
Strengths:
Decent video section though it lacks downconverting.
56 tuner presets though octal system is stupid
Upconverts video signals but not downconverts component video
Weaknesses:
Sound is OK only for cheap action movies but it just can't play music
Inputs can't be renamed
Manual is just a list of functions and doesn't help much explaining what they are for.
Not flexible for interconnecting and interacting components
Rec out mode is overcomplicated even for overcomplication junkie
Cheap speaker terminals
Complicated menus
Stupid octal tuner preset system
Worthless and user unfriendly remote
Post by: Tempter on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:35 AM
This is correct. The video source is really important. That is why I shy away from crappy movie downloads, I rather buy BDs or very good quality jacksparrow, pag less than 1GB kse ang mga files pansin ko, di maganda yung audio output parang 2.0 lang sya.
Re: center speaker, I used to have some irritation with my previous set-up, even after calibration, I still need to increase the center volume by 2-4 dbs. May be this is due to the speaker-avr combination? But now, I rarely adjust the center volume, again, depende sa source or movie... :)
I get decent to good audio from so called crappy downloads with 2.0 audio by using DTS Neo 6: Cinema, Dynamic Volume: Light, THX: disabled (this setting is crap! ;D), try it. ;)
Sorry, forgot to mention, im using Onkyo pala hehe! hence, the THX. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:41 AM
But I haver never seen a china made ONKYO unlke Denon which almost all new models are from china.
I've pasted here the review of the 3805:
Summary:
I've read a lot of positive reviews so when I had a chance to buy it for cheap as defective I didn't hesitate to shell out $100 - why not? I was thinking that the chance of repairing it was slim but all the problem was $0.01 thermal fuse within power transformer and just shorting it I got fully working 3805 five minutes later I opened the cover.
Well, let's see what inside. Many components especially power caps are pathetic! How do they think these tiny caps will be able to provide any current to drive 7X120W amps? I have Sony TA N77ES power amp and it has 4 (four) BIGGER caps in just pre-drive section, not to mention 6 monster caps which provide current for 2X120W output cascades.
Back to Denon - cheap and thin printed boards, caps are OK - ELNA, nickel plated cheap RCA sockets, all the decoding circuits fit the cigarette pack size printed board which is not even shielded. Most of the corners are cut literally. I was thinking that $1500.00 list price receiver should have more than just 3 gilded sockets (I'm not even sure that three front RCA sockets are gilded on this Denon - the yellow color is suspicious). Well let's stop chuckling and start listening.
First it requires some setup... I'd like to remind Denon engineers that we are living in XXI century and even $30.00 Chinese DVD players have color menu with some graphics - 3805 brings us back to DOS - black screen with white letters in 320X240 resolution. Menus are complicated and not intuitive. Some of the settings require pressing of "<" button instead of central "ENTER" button which can infuriate most patient user. I have very complicated system and I'm complication junkie but this is beyond my patience. The remote sucks - almost unreadable in daylight and to understand what mode is turned on now you have to carefully review rows and rows of tiny inscriptions which haven't any borders to distinguish one from another.
Display is laughable - cheap greenish color looks so unsophisticated and
OK, initial settings done at last and... the sound is as pathetic as power caps. Thin and lacking bass even in stereo mode. I don't know what reviewers were comparing it to but this Denon was easily beaten by 1989 Sony STR-D2020 and 1997 Technics SA-TX30 receivers I have in other rooms. I'm not even mentioning Sony TA-N55ES and TA-N77ES amps which eat this Denon for breakfast. My front 60 lbs each, four feet front channel towers each with two 10" woofers ($2300.00 list price) mated with this Denon sounded almost the same as small shelf speakers I use for surround. After spending hours trying to understand menus I discovered that auto setup rolled off bass quite significantly but restoring EQ to flat and even using direct and pure direct (whatever they meant!) modes didn't help much. The bass just still is not there - it's OK for artifical movie explosions and helicopter blades but tight, solid, rolling bass of well recorded musical instrument just don't comes out of this Denon.
Video section is good but when I tried to make some video recordings through it I discovered that rec out setup is absolutely stupid and frustrating to use. Moreover, rec out audio doesn't output the converted digital signal! - only analog inputs. Rec out is united with Zone 2 output and this complicates setup even more. To simply make a copy from one VCR to another requires complicated rec out setup procedure and often it's easier to reconnect the cables than to search for this function in complicated manual because it's impossible to memorize or find it intuitively.
Then I discovered that it can't downconvert component video. It can upconvert any video input (composite or s-video) to component which is OK but why they didn't add couple of ICs to downconvert component video is puzzling.
To the attention of Denon engineers - I have Sony preamp which has input renaming function and it was made back in 1989...Here we are almost 20 years later and Denon folks haven't figured out how to include extra 2 kilobytes of memory and couple of strings of commands in microcontroller code to ease the life of user who has to scratch his head recalling what he connected to DBS input. I have 3XVCRs, LD and DVD players justconnecting and using them is a pain in the...
Speaker terminals are very cheap - I seen a better terminals on $100 Chinese home theaters in a box. Too small for any decent cables, can't connect spades.
Overall it is very complicated and not user friendly. Dispaly and remote are hard to read and understand.
Can't recommend it especially for list price.
Strengths:
Decent video section though it lacks downconverting.
56 tuner presets though octal system is stupid
Upconverts video signals but not downconverts component video
Weaknesses:
Sound is OK only for cheap action movies but it just can't play music
Inputs can't be renamed
Manual is just a list of functions and doesn't help much explaining what they are for.
Not flexible for interconnecting and interacting components
Rec out mode is overcomplicated even for overcomplication junkie
Cheap speaker terminals
Complicated menus
Stupid octal tuner preset system
Worthless and user unfriendly remote
This review was posted by a consumer, not a professional. He bought the item for $100 from a thrift store. For all we know, he bought a fake or he is a troll. There are lots of positive reviews about this old Denon AVR (probably 2004 vintage). I would give no value to this review.
Post by: macdon on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:32 AM
I was just wondering if you have any feedbacks regarding 1508 or 1708? I believe the 1708 is higher than 1508?
I Googled both, but was hoping you guys could share any user experience or heard any feedbacks and comments (good or bad) regarding both models.
Maraming Salamat po ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:10 AM
Good day mga masters ;Dkagawad me and martin are satisfied 1509 users. according to jeff (TW) 1509 has an ipod dock support advantage over 1508 and thats it, everything else is identical. :D
I was just wondering if you have any feedbacks regarding 1508 or 1708? I believe the 1708 is higher than 1508?
I Googled both, but was hoping you guys could share any user experience or heard any feedbacks and comments (good or bad) regarding both models.
Maraming Salamat po ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:23 AM
Good day mga masters ;D
I was just wondering if you have any feedbacks regarding 1508 or 1708? I believe the 1708 is higher than 1508?
I Googled both, but was hoping you guys could share any user experience or heard any feedbacks and comments (good or bad) regarding both models.
Maraming Salamat po ;)
Kagawad...I own a 1509 like brader Jams. There is a downside to the 1509 which I receintly found out. Please see reference review below:
Denon’s latest entry-level receiver is the AVR-1509 (reviewed here exclusively), which forms part of a four-strong range with the more expensive AVR-2809, AVR-2309 and AVR-1909. These three other models all feature decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio, but the affordably-priced AVR-1509 only decodes Dolby Digital and DTS, making it better suited to systems based on a DVD player rather than a Blu-ray deck.
On the design front, Denon certainly hasn’t cut any corners to reach a tempting price point. It’s a big, monster of a machine, available in black or Premium Silver, and our silver sample looks very classy. No less than three knobs adorn the front (source select, volume and a menu control dial, and they’re accompanied by all the buttons you need to control your system up-close. A decent-sized display dominates the fascia, with large illuminated digits that show the audio format being received, input source and the volume.
The AVR-1509’s entry-level price doesn’t mean that it skimps on connections, but you are more limited in what you can do with them. The inclusion of two HDMI v1.3 inputs on the rear is an obvious highlight, allowing you to switch between two HD video sources, which is a godsend if your TV only sports one HDMI input. However, the unit only passes the video signal and sound through to your TV and won’t decode Dolby Digital or DTS bitstreams carried over an HDMI connection. It also doesn’t feature 1080p upscaling of SD video sources, so if you need either of these features then you’ll need to step-up to the AVR-1909, 2309 or 2809.
Full review
http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/review/2008/09/12/Denon-AVR-1509-AV-Receiver/p1
I don't know if it's the same for the 1508, but nonetheless, I wanted to share it with you brader. :)
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:45 AM
kagawad me and martin are satisfied 1509 users. according to jeff (TW) 1509 has an ipod dock support advantage over 1508 and thats it, everything else is identical. :D
Thanks Jamy ;) So you and brader Mart have '09 models pala, thus making the 1508 and 1708 as previous year models - tama?
Sa first 2 numbers naman - the higher the number the more features?
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:50 AM
Thanks Jamy ;) So you and brader Mart have '09 models pala, thus making the 1508 and 1708 as previous year models - tama?
Sa first 2 numbers naman - the higher the number the more features?
That's correct kagawad! ;)
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:56 AM
Kagawad...I own a 1509 like brader Jams. There is a downside to the 1509 which I receintly found out. Please see reference review below:
Denon’s latest entry-level receiver is the AVR-1509 (reviewed here exclusively), which forms part of a four-strong range with the more expensive AVR-2809, AVR-2309 and AVR-1909. These three other models all feature decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio, but the affordably-priced AVR-1509 only decodes Dolby Digital and DTS, making it better suited to systems based on a DVD player rather than a Blu-ray deck.
On the design front, Denon certainly hasn’t cut any corners to reach a tempting price point. It’s a big, monster of a machine, available in black or Premium Silver, and our silver sample looks very classy. No less than three knobs adorn the front (source select, volume and a menu control dial, and they’re accompanied by all the buttons you need to control your system up-close. A decent-sized display dominates the fascia, with large illuminated digits that show the audio format being received, input source and the volume.
The AVR-1509’s entry-level price doesn’t mean that it skimps on connections, but you are more limited in what you can do with them. The inclusion of two HDMI v1.3 inputs on the rear is an obvious highlight, allowing you to switch between two HD video sources, which is a godsend if your TV only sports one HDMI input. However, the unit only passes the video signal and sound through to your TV and won’t decode Dolby Digital or DTS bitstreams carried over an HDMI connection. It also doesn’t feature 1080p upscaling of SD video sources, so if you need either of these features then you’ll need to step-up to the AVR-1909, 2309 or 2809.
Full review
http://www.trustedreviews.com/home-cinema/review/2008/09/12/Denon-AVR-1509-AV-Receiver/p1
I don't know if it's the same for the 1508, but nonetheless, I wanted to share it with you brader. :)
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:20 AM
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
Sounds pretty good naman. :) In fact, I was happy when we first auditioned it, as the amplifier of sir Mike is a Denon as well. So, I had a basis on how it were to sound on my 1509. ;)
As hearing it with other receivers...no, not yet. :( I plan to visit some of our members here who have SVS speakers driven by a different brand of receiver, to find out if there is a difference. ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:23 AM
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
kagawad, for you dapat atleast 23xx ang gamit mo... ;)
here is the latest:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f (http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f)
Post by: Conan on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:37 AM
kagawad, for you dapat atleast 23xx ang gamit mo... ;)
here is the latest:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f (http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f)
2311 is the latest model.
Post by: iiinas on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:44 AM
2311 is the latest model.
ah ok. i stand corrected. thanks.
ito kagawad.
http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Denon-AVR-2311/ (http://www.whathifi.com/Review/Denon-AVR-2311/)
anyway, basta dapat 23xx series or up ka kagawad.
Post by: Weng! on Feb 03, 2011 at 08:15 AM
Thanks brader Mart - yeah, I kinda expected the same with the 1508 and 1708. No audio via HDMI and only DD/DTS via optical or coax connection. With the quoted price I was given, I guess thats to be expected.
BTW - how does the SVS s-series sounds with the Denon? Got any chance of hearing it with other brands like Onkyo, Marantz, Yammy, HK, et al?
i'm using 2308 with the S series speakers. it sounds good naman although have not compared it to other brands. the 2308 should be similar to the 2311 powerwise, minus the hd audio ek,ek and stuff.
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 08:58 AM
kagawad, for you dapat atleast 23xx ang gamit mo... ;)
here is the latest:
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f (http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=548d1dfb-79a7-4e9e-bc6f-c66f86ba4c9f)
Salamat kagawad ;)
However, this is not for my HT ;D Para sa xbox gaming ko lang sa attic. ;D
If its for my HT, I wouldnt go lower than either a 3311 or 4311 ;)
Post by: Weng! on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:06 AM
Salamat kagawad ;)
However, this is not for my HT ;D Para sa xbox gaming ko lang sa attic. ;D
If its for my HT, I wouldnt go lower than either a 3311 or 4311 ;)
now you're talking ;D
hi end talaga gamit mo sir. pang xbox lng sayo ang kaya namin :)
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:31 AM
now you're talking ;D
hi end talaga gamit mo sir. pang xbox lng sayo ang kaya namin :)
Uyy, hindi naman sir - sa totoo lang ayaw ko na nga gumastos eh at ok na naman yung onkyo ko for my gaming purposes. Medyo, maging demo lang sir kaya naisipan ko i-upgrade ng konti yung avr ko ;)
Post by: mike c on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:45 AM
i'm using 2308 with the S series speakers. it sounds good naman although have not compared it to other brands. the 2308 should be similar to the 2311 powerwise, minus the hd audio ek,ek and stuff.
2307 yung sa demo area ko ... it was enough to convince quite a number of people :D
the 23 series has a nice balance of $:power:preout
Post by: Weng! on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:55 AM
2307 yung sa demo area ko ... it was enought to convince quite a number of people :D
the 23 series has a nice balance of $:power:preout
same pala receiver natin sir. kaya pala totoo ang mga comments nila sa S speakers setup mo. masaya ako sa kulam kahit di ko narinig in person. this is the 2nd time i bought a speaker set without even hearing them first. thanks sa mga mangku, you know who you are ;D
Post by: mike c on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:58 AM
same pala receiver natin sir. kaya pala totoo ang mga comments nila sa S speakers setup mo. masaya ako sa kulam kahit di ko narinig in person. this is the 2nd time i bought a speaker set without even hearing them first. thanks sa mga mangku, you know who you are ;D
i liked it so much, i bought a 2309 for the bedroom
i still think na if the receiver has enough stable power for the speakers, it doesn't really affect the sound much (unless may audyssey or sadyang warm na receiver)
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:52 AM
same pala receiver natin sir. kaya pala totoo ang mga comments nila sa S speakers setup mo. masaya ako sa kulam kahit di ko narinig in person. this is the 2nd time i bought a speaker set without even hearing them first. thanks sa mga mangku, you know who you are ;D
Alam ko hindi kapa tapos kulamin eh :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Alam ko hindi kapa tapos kulamin eh :D
kaya nga he asking for more kagawad mac ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Weng! on Feb 03, 2011 at 11:03 AM
kaya nga he asking for more kagawad mac ;D ;D ;D
bwahahaha. i'm asking for more money ni kumander to buy all my caprichos ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 11:23 AM
bwahahaha. i'm asking for more money ni kumander to buy all my caprichos ;D
Ahh, show your kumander how good you are - maglaba ka! Dont forget to use Tide Ultra ha! :D
Sorry sa OT
Post by: iiinas on Feb 03, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Salamat kagawad ;)
However, this is not for my HT ;D Para sa xbox gaming ko lang sa attic. ;D
If its for my HT, I wouldnt go lower than either a 3311 or 4311 ;)
yun eh! ;)
but if its entry level, try mo rin onkyo. the 50x series is pretty good feature for feature. i think one of the downside lang naman ng onkyo is that it runs hotter than denons. but aside from that oks sya. partial ako kasi onkyo user. ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 12:20 PM
yun eh! ;)
but if its entry level, try mo rin onkyo. the 50x series is pretty good feature for feature. i think one of the downside lang naman ng onkyo is that it runs hotter than denons. but aside from that oks sya. partial ako kasi onkyo user. ;D
OT yang sagot mo kagawad ah :D :D joke lang po :-*
Seriously, wala naman problema sa aking kung Denon or Onkyo (sorry ulit sa OT :D ) - but for my particular usage, Im just looking for a cheaper new or preowned Denon or Onkyo. Yung binenta ko lang kahapon na avr ko for gaming is just a 5k Onkyo avr - syempre ayoko naman gumastos na sobrang malaki, so looking for a 10-12k avr lang ako at the moment. Just a bit of upgrade ika nga :P
Post by: iiinas on Feb 03, 2011 at 02:13 PM
OT yang sagot mo kagawad ah :D :D joke lang po :-*
Seriously, wala naman problema sa aking kung Denon or Onkyo (sorry ulit sa OT :D ) - but for my particular usage, Im just looking for a cheaper new or preowned Denon or Onkyo. Yung binenta ko lang kahapon na avr ko for gaming is just a 5k Onkyo avr - syempre ayoko naman gumastos na sobrang malaki, so looking for a 10-12k avr lang ako at the moment. Just a bit of upgrade ika nga :P
ot ulit, pero ok, 17k baka may tawad pa. award winning. onkyo 606.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 03, 2011 at 05:57 PM
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 06:48 PM
kayo talaga oo, kaya nagiging OT kase sa presyo, ang hanap ni kagawad mac Denon 5308c1
Nakow :P I dont have the funds like yours brader Tirso ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 07:20 PM
ot ulit, pero ok, 17k baka may tawad pa. award winning. onkyo 606.
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130137.0.html)
Maganda talaga yan kagawad - lalo na it reminds us of our celebrated member na komedyante ;D
Kaso, nasubukan ko na Onkyo eh - maiba naman tayo ng panlasa ngayon ;)
Which reminds me.........I had taken this pic 3-3.5yrs ago:
(http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/11/88/38/44/p1000213.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=62&u=11883844)
Unfortunately, that amp never saw the light of day while it was with me as I sold it still sealed. It was also during that time that I was contemplating going the pre/pro route ::)
Dapat din pala hindi ko binenta yung Sony AVR that I won last xmas party .............. but nahhh :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:12 PM
Post by: macdon on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:00 PM
bro macdon, ayon sa post ni bro iiinas dati, bright yung onkyo baka manibago ka lang sa denon. pero sa panlasa ko mas prefer ko talaga denon ;D
Napansin ko nga rin - most notably cguro sa mga entry level Onkyos ::)
If Denon is less bright - then I welcome it! ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2011 at 05:21 AM
Post by: macdon on Feb 04, 2011 at 05:38 AM
uu nga pala sayang yun sony, sealed din yun diba? :D
Yup - sealed ;D Parang ayaw sa akin ang bago ............ gusto luma na :D
Post by: jao143 on Feb 04, 2011 at 06:58 AM
bro macdon, ayon sa post ni bro iiinas dati, bright yung onkyo baka manibago ka lang sa denon. pero sa panlasa ko mas prefer ko talaga denon ;D
Mga sirs medyo OT lang pero, you'll never notice this "brightness" if you use the right speakers, right kagawad Mar? ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 04, 2011 at 07:43 AM
Mga sirs medyo OT lang pero, you'll never notice this "brightness" is you use the right speakers, right kagawad Mar? ;D
Neutral naman ang svs speakers - but that neutrality could be swayed din to either directions depending on how manipulating the amplifier is.
In a perfect world, the amp's job is just to amplify - but we all know that there are amps that really are not neutral.
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Yup - sealed ;D Parang ayaw sa akin ang bago ............ gusto luma na :Dtype ko yung isang denon dun sa market place ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 04, 2011 at 09:00 PM
type ko yung isang denon dun sa market place ;D
Alin don brader... ::)
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2011 at 09:13 PM
Alin don brader... ::)eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
or
etong 688 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129346.0.html), mas maganda yung Audyssey MultEQ XT
or eto (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129646.0.html)
dami! ::) ::)
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 04, 2011 at 09:24 PM
eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
or
etong 688 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129346.0.html), mas maganda yung Audyssey MultEQ XT
I thought ok ka na sa 1509...you have plans of upgrading your receiver na pala. :)
Post by: macdon on Feb 04, 2011 at 10:22 PM
eto sana 3805 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,130011.0.html)kaso nga lang wala audyssey.
or
etong 688 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129346.0.html), mas maganda yung Audyssey MultEQ XT
or eto (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,129646.0.html)
dami! ::) ::)
According to that 2nd link you posted - sir Simple is selling a 668 = 1708. Anybody care to explain the 3-digit model number as compared to the 4-digit?
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 04, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Taken from http://batpigworld.com/models.html
Denon Model Numbers, Explained
With so many different Denon AVR's out there, the dizzying number of different model number designations can be very confusing. However, once you understand the Denon nomenclature for numbering their receivers, things make a little more sense.
The first thing to learn is that Denon puts out two parallel receiver lineups, with four-digit and three-digit model numbers. The primary difference is the retail distribution: four-digit models are generally sold by high end stereo shops and custom installers, whereasthe three-digit models are the "consumer" version sold in retail outlets like Circuit City and Fry's.
However, there is ZERO difference in terms of power, specs, sound quality, build quality, etc. between the two lines!! Denon has been doing this for years, it is exactly analagous to the Yamaha "HTR" and "RX-V" parallel receiver lines. But each 3-digit/4-digit "twin" model will have IDENTICAL internals; do NOT believe any marketing B.S. that the 4-digit models have higher quality components.
There will usually be one or two minor differences to differentiate the three-digit and four-digit models. In general, the four-digit versions will add a couple of "custom installer friendly" features like an RS-232 serial port, slightly more flexible multizone options, 12V triggers, or a room-to-room remote jack. There is also typically a slight cosmetic difference between the two lines.
Note that this "parallel" numbering scheme only applies to the "consumer level" Denons that you will find in retail shops, basically everything up to the 33xx/9xx level. The higher end models (basically anything at the 4xxx level and up), with their bigger prices and narrower market, don't get a "consumer" version.
Now that you understand that the three-digit and four-digit models are "parallel" lineups, you are ready to learn the number scheme:
* The FIRST number (or first two numbers on four-digit models) tells you the "level" of the receiver. So for three-digit models, the 8xx is one step up from the 7xx, which is one step up from the 6xx. For four-digit models, the 23xx is above the 19xx, which is above the 16xx, and so forth.
* The LAST number is the model year. So, for example, the 789 is last year's (2009 model) 7XX level receiver, and the 790 is THIS year's (2010 model) 7XX level receiver, and the new 791 is the brand-new 2011 model. If it ends in "1", it's a brand new model.
That's pretty much it! So, if you are at Best Buy and you see the brand-new 1911 model, but there is also a special on the 2310CI model, you now know that the 1911 (ends in "11") is one year newer than the 2310 (ends in "10"), but the 2310 is a higher-end model than the 1911 (the first two numbers are bigger, the 23xx series is above the 19xx series). So you'd be comparing a higher-end closeout model from last year versus a lower-end but new model.
The following table gives info on the three-digit vs. four-digit model equivalents, going back to the xx07 models (the first year that HDMI and Audyssey were fully implemented in the consumer lineup). Note that, since xx10, every Denon AVR model has complete HD audio ability throughout the entire lineup!
Please see table charts at: http://batpigworld.com/models.html
Post by: juanch on Feb 04, 2011 at 11:19 PM
Post by: ricky on Feb 05, 2011 at 06:53 AM
Post by: Weng! on Feb 05, 2011 at 09:35 AM
rc-180 = 807
rc-260 = 608
rc-270 = ??
mas lesser power ang RC model ng konti
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 05, 2011 at 12:41 PM
^ cool, that was enlightening. :)
^^^ thanks bro stickfighter for the enlightenment ;)
No problem braders...I learned from it too! ;)
Post by: macdon on Feb 05, 2011 at 08:55 PM
Go go Denon! ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 06, 2011 at 05:52 AM
I thought ok ka na sa 1509...you have plans of upgrading your receiver na pala. :)may spare genesis speaker kasi ako dito bro gusto k gawin surround back. ;D
pero dahil may paparating akong isa pa pb12 pass na muna sa receiver.
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2011 at 08:04 AM
Medyo nakakalito lang ang settings for the first time user like me :P
BTW - If I unplug the unit, would it loose my saved settings over time?
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 08, 2011 at 08:35 AM
I really enjoyed the Denon + SVS speaker combo - it seems to have more body than with Onkyo.
Medyo nakakalito lang ang settings for the first time user like me :P
BTW - If I unplug the unit, would it loose my saved settings over time?
As long as you saved your setting, that will remain until you decide to restore defaut setting or save a new setting. :)
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2011 at 08:46 AM
As long as you saved your setting, that will remain until you decide to restore defaut setting or save a new setting. :)
Thanks for the reply brader Mart ;)
Post by: Weng! on Feb 08, 2011 at 11:27 AM
As long as you saved your setting, that will remain until you decide to restore defaut setting or save a new setting. :)
brader stick, can you please share how you restore the saved settings. minsan kasi nawala ang audyssey multeq (unlit icon) sa receiver's screen lalo na pag di ko na lock ang MENU. when i go to Room EQ, ang selection ay ON, OFF and custom nalang at wala na ang Audyssey, Audyssey L&R (bypass) & Audyssey Flat. all i can do is repeat the bloody calibration to make it lit (audyssey multeq) again. i tried to find where is that restore thingy sa Menu but to no avail.
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 09, 2011 at 06:34 AM
brader stick, can you please share how you restore the saved settings.
After running the Audessey calibration and you have already seen the final results of the calibration, you will be asked to save the settings. Once you choose to save the settings, no matter how often you switch the unit "on" and "off," you will continue to have the same settings.
To restore the receiver to it's original and "default" factory settings, access the System Speaker set-up option and scroll to the very end. The last option would be "Restore Yes<" By pressing the "left" arrow key on the remote, this will activate the restoration process of your receiver.
minsan kasi nawala ang audyssey multeq (unlit icon) sa receiver's screen lalo na pag di ko na lock ang MENU. when i go to Room EQ, ang selection ay ON, OFF and custom nalang at wala na ang Audyssey, Audyssey L&R (bypass) & Audyssey Flat. all i can do is repeat the bloody calibration to make it lit (audyssey multeq) again. i tried to find where is that restore thingy sa Menu but to no avail.
AFAIK, the MultiEQ can switched "on" & "off" thru the remote of the receiver. There is a button labeled MULTI EQ. This is what I use to access the option.
What Denon AVR model do you own brader Weng? :)
Post by: Conan on Feb 09, 2011 at 06:44 AM
brader stick, can you please share how you restore the saved settings. minsan kasi nawala ang audyssey multeq (unlit icon) sa receiver's screen lalo na pag di ko na lock ang MENU. when i go to Room EQ, ang selection ay ON, OFF and custom nalang at wala na ang Audyssey, Audyssey L&R (bypass) & Audyssey Flat. all i can do is repeat the bloody calibration to make it lit (audyssey multeq) again. i tried to find where is that restore thingy sa Menu but to no avail.
Could it be that the memory back-up battery is no longer functioning hence the loss of Audyssey's settings?
Post by: Weng! on Feb 09, 2011 at 06:48 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 09, 2011 at 06:51 AM
Thanks. The restoration is only to bring it back to factory settings. I always choose to save the settings after each calibration but it happened a few times already that the audyssey multieq just go unlit and no option to select it again. I will use the orig controller if this will happen again. Naka universal remote a kasi ako at baka may napindot sa remote to de-activate it.
Could be...but there is an access button on the front panel of the receiver for the Multi EQ as well. :)
Post by: Weng! on Feb 09, 2011 at 06:56 AM
@Conan, i'm not sure if it's the memory battery coz it seldom happens. Basta napansin ko lang pagnawala na ang audyssey sa receiver screen, unlock na ang menu settings. I'm using a sony remote commander, baka may mga buttons na nag de-activate siguro.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2011 at 11:13 PM
I'm using a denon 2308 pala.
@Conan, i'm not sure if it's the memory battery coz it seldom happens. Basta napansin ko lang pagnawala na ang audyssey sa receiver screen, unlock na ang menu settings. I'm using a sony remote commander, baka may mga buttons na nag de-activate siguro.
meron bang memory battery?
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 09, 2011 at 11:43 PM
meron bang memory battery?
AFAIK wala syang memory battery...but I could be wrong. :-[
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2011 at 11:48 PM
AFAIK wala syang memory battery...but I could be wrong. :-[
ngayon ko lang kase narining yung term na ito eh kaya naitanong ko brader
dapat talaga makapag researsch ng mabuti
Post by: Conan on Feb 10, 2011 at 05:21 AM
AFAIK wala syang memory battery...but I could be wrong. :-[
Meron yan but it's actually a capacitor. It's the one responsible for "remembering" the receiver's settings if you unplug the unit. Over time this capacitor will eventually fail and need replacement.
Post by: avshop on Mar 01, 2011 at 12:39 PM
denon 1911 - 32k
:)
Post by: blurayhd on Mar 06, 2011 at 02:55 PM
The sound though is not interrupted. Im using HDMI for both sound and video. Upon trying optical for audio and HDMI direct to the Toshiba dLCD isplay, there is no problem occurring. What could be wrong with it?
Any suggestions on trouble shooting?
Post by: Tempter on Mar 06, 2011 at 10:48 PM
I need help with my Denon 1610. Watching mkv movies using laptop and as well as PS3 have problems in the display. After 5 to 15 mins or so, the display suddenly goes black and the information display on Denon blinks for a second. After a few seconds the display goes back again. This may happen every now and then.
The sound though is not interrupted. Im using HDMI for both sound and video. Upon trying optical for audio and HDMI direct to the Toshiba dLCD isplay, there is no problem occurring. What could be wrong with it?
Any suggestions on trouble shooting?
What's your TV sir?
Post by: blurayhd on Mar 07, 2011 at 06:04 AM
Post by: Tempter on Mar 07, 2011 at 09:06 AM
Toshiba Regza, problem is I also tried PJ Acer and it also happens once in a while. Could it be affected by power fluctuations or is it an hdmi cable problem. Im using CDR King HDMI cables and 500W AVR.
I also encountered similar issue, but im using Onkyo. CD-R King cable also. But this when I connect my PC to the Receiver. Im not sure which is the culprit yet because when I connect my pc directly to the TV it also has issues.
Post by: blurayhd on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Post by: Tempter on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:12 PM
Ive checked the manual of Denon, it says the system should be HDCP compliant, does it have something to do with high bandwith content when playing HD files? maybe the CDR King cheap hdmi does not provide enough high speed for playing HD files. HDMI seems to have no problem with the visual. only that it blacks out unpredictively once in a while.
I dont think so, it either work or not. Most likely sa implementation ng HDMI sa tv, my video card, or my receiver...
Or pede rin sa HDMI cable, na may nakakabit na rounded plastic (nakalimutan ko tawag, i think pantanggal ng noise yun) malapit sa terminal nya. Napansin ko kasi yung mga cable ko na ganito may issue, may flicker, pero yung wala flawless..
Post by: blurayhd on Mar 15, 2011 at 09:32 AM
I dont think so, it either work or not. Most likely sa implementation ng HDMI sa tv, my video card, or my receiver...
Or pede rin sa HDMI cable, na may nakakabit na rounded plastic (nakalimutan ko tawag, i think pantanggal ng noise yun) malapit sa terminal nya. Napansin ko kasi yung mga cable ko na ganito may issue, may flicker, pero yung wala flawless..
My AVR is now working now with no problems in flickering. Its an hdmi connection problem. The CDR King HDMI cables have some issues so i replaced it with manufacturer HDMI cables 1.5m that is free from samsung. CDR King HDMI 3m and above could not catch up with high speed communication specially when playing 720p 1080p mkv with DD and DTS sounds.
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 17, 2011 at 08:41 AM
My AVR is now working now with no problems in flickering. Its an hdmi connection problem. The CDR King HDMI cables have some issues so i replaced it with manufacturer HDMI cables 1.5m that is free from samsung. CDR King HDMI 3m and above could not catch up with high speed communication specially when playing 720p 1080p mkv with DD and DTS sounds.ito ba yung mga bagong labas with mesh ?
Post by: cls on Apr 19, 2011 at 05:23 PM
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20053559&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-1
Post by: Conan on Apr 19, 2011 at 05:48 PM
Just wanted to share 2011 Denon av receivers:
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20053559&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-1
I think the power figures are wrong in that article as the 1912 has less watts than the lower models.
Post by: genesys on Apr 21, 2011 at 08:41 AM
my room is 0% treated, wonder how it will sound pag may treatment. still researching for a budget-friendly but descent sub (for more movie rumble effect) to complete the set-up pero hindi naman nagmamadali coz my FS puts out great bass (Ezra, care of sir Anthony)
btw guys, can you share your denon settings? mahilig kasi ako magtinker hehe. anyway for me, i use multeq, dynamic eq, plII music w/ panorama on for both movies and music (i like surround). of course ganda rin ng direct mode nya. all the other settings mostly default para closer to the original material.
Post by: Tavus on Apr 28, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Post by: bryan338 on Apr 29, 2011 at 01:10 AM
Post by: avshop on Apr 29, 2011 at 08:12 PM
guys may per-outs ba yung denon 2310?
The local version has pre outs. The one from the states don't have pre outs afaik. :)
Post by: Tavus on Apr 30, 2011 at 03:43 PM
The local version has pre outs. The one from the states don't have pre outs afaik. :)wahah i knew it
I noticed it that too, i went to british and US websites and only the british sites mentioned of pre outs, I was confused at first thats why i asked here. good thing denon asia brought in the Uk version
Post by: bryan338 on May 01, 2011 at 09:04 PM
The local version has pre outs. The one from the states don't have pre outs afaik. :)
wow ngayon ko lang nalaman ito hehe....
Post by: mjct6210 on May 06, 2011 at 09:03 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 06, 2011 at 10:08 AM
i recently added a subwoofer and 3 speakers to complete my 5.1 setup with my 2808. i noticed na kapag nagplay cya ng audio hindi nya gamit yung subwoof. any setting i should change?
Go to Manual Settings / Speaker Settings. Make all speakers "Small". Set an appropriate crossover. Usually 80 Hz
Post by: mjct6210 on May 06, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Post by: stat on Jun 28, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:06 PM
thanks
Post by: scifi-fan on Jun 28, 2011 at 01:17 PM
I'm saving for the 1912 as well. I have 5 Apple devices on my home LAN so it would be nice to have airplay available to send stuff from the devices to the HT wirelessly.
Post by: Cosmic79 on Jun 28, 2011 at 08:36 PM
It usually takes 3 months from the time a product is announced before it makes it to our shores.
I'm saving for the 1912 as well. I have 5 Apple devices on my home LAN so it would be nice to have airplay available to send stuff from the devices to the HT wirelessly.
Here is a nice review of the Denon 1912. I think this model is a good "bang for your buck". Aside from having Airplay, it has 6 hdmi ports plust 9 speaker terminals. It's an almost complete receiver at its price level.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgPj23NajSs&feature=related
Post by: deo on Aug 09, 2011 at 07:24 AM
may naka encounter na ba sa inyo ng ganito? TIA!
Post by: thecount on Aug 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgPj23NajSs
It usually takes 3 months from the time a product is announced before it makes it to our shores.
I'm saving for the 1912 as well. I have 5 Apple devices on my home LAN so it would be nice to have airplay available to send stuff from the devices to the HT wirelessly.
Post by: RastaSega on Aug 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM
saan mo nakuha?
Post by: thecount on Aug 11, 2011 at 04:40 PM
I havent receive the unit but was told within the week will becomes available. So i gave confirmation to get one.
Re return the item? Why? Any qc prob with 1st batch? Should i cancel my reservation?
sir i think you need to return the item.
saan mo nakuha?
sir i think you need to return the item.
saan mo nakuha?
Post by: Euphony101 on Aug 11, 2011 at 05:47 PM
Just got my 3312 last night....after using it for a couple of minutes, biglang namatay ang power tapos after a second nag on ulit :-\ tapos namatay after mga 5 seconds, then on ulit...kala ko nag trip lang ung wires ng speakers, pero i tried unpluging everything except power, ganun pa rin :'( nag try na rin ako ng ibang outlet, nag reset na rin ako ng micro processor (power+preset2+preset3 combination) to reset to factory settings. ano ba naman to, ka ddeliver lang last night :'( :'( :'(
may naka encounter na ba sa inyo ng ganito? TIA!
Badtrip talaga yan Sir, no choice ka dyan kundi ibalik sa pinagbilan mo. :(
Post by: avshop on Aug 11, 2011 at 06:21 PM
Post by: Yunarce on Aug 16, 2011 at 08:15 AM
Post by: funky_fresh on Aug 17, 2011 at 06:16 PM
but still some more inputs of what subs and speakers.. i have around 20sqm of room space.. setting this up for my bed room..
Post by: RastaSega on Aug 17, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Post by: funky_fresh on Aug 17, 2011 at 06:45 PM
Post by: avshop on Aug 17, 2011 at 07:02 PM
Proud new owner of Denon 1912. ;D Maganda ba tunog ng polk dito?
Matches well with Polk. Check out the polk Rti series. :)
Post by: avshop on Aug 17, 2011 at 07:03 PM
hi,any suggestion on what speakers to pair with denon1912? im already sold on getting denon1912 instead of onkyo 609.
but still some more inputs of what subs and speakers.. i have around 20sqm of room space.. setting this up for my bed room..
Check out the infinit Primus and Polk speakers. Come by the shop to check them out. :)
Post by: funky_fresh on Aug 17, 2011 at 07:37 PM
Check out the infinit Primus and Polk speakers. Come by the shop to check them out. :)
sir san banda ung shop nyu? chinechk ko kc sa google map ung bldg.hnd ku mkita..hehe
Post by: avshop on Aug 17, 2011 at 08:32 PM
sir san banda ung shop nyu? chinechk ko kc sa google map ung bldg.hnd ku mkita..hehe
No more stock. We have one unit of the dta100. It's the bldg. with the Korean restaurant WOO RI JIB on the ground floor. MLY ENTERPRISES. Unit 303 Amaremca bldg. 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city.
TEL NO. 435-3210 :)
Post by: funky_fresh on Aug 17, 2011 at 08:41 PM
No more stock. We have one unit of the dta100. It's the bldg. with the Korean restaurant WOO RI JIB on the ground floor. MLY ENTERPRISES. Unit 303 Amaremca bldg. 107a kalayaan avenue, diliman, quezon city.
TEL NO. 435-3210 :)
no more stock for 1912? aw..hmm..sige will try to check out your store..
Post by: avshop on Aug 18, 2011 at 12:03 AM
no more stock for 1912? aw..hmm..sige will try to check out your store..
New stock arriving this weekend. :)
Post by: Yunarce on Aug 18, 2011 at 08:42 AM
Post by: RastaSega on Aug 19, 2011 at 04:19 PM
I havent receive the unit but was told within the week will becomes available. So i gave confirmation to get one.
Re return the item? Why? Any qc prob with 1st batch? Should i cancel my reservation?
sorry sir. i wasn't referring to you.
i was trying to give a suggestion to Deo.
Post by: rolandumali on Aug 23, 2011 at 07:09 AM
We have the Denon 1912 available already. :)
How much?
Post by: avshop on Aug 23, 2011 at 08:27 AM
How much?
33.5k. :)
Post by: rolandumali on Aug 23, 2011 at 11:53 AM
33.5k. :)
where is the store located?
Post by: avshop on Aug 23, 2011 at 02:03 PM
where is the store located?
MLY ENTERPRISES. UNIT 303 AMAREMCA BLDG. 107A KALAYAAN AVENUE, DILIMAN, QUEZON CITY. :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM
paradigms usually go well with Denon.
agree, this is my current combo ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 28, 2011 at 11:44 PM
polk audio (mine)
a-audio (mine)
others:
svs (heard @ svs dealer's location and while auditioning another member's house) soon to be mine. :)
Post by: francis111 on Aug 30, 2011 at 05:12 PM
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 01, 2011 at 08:09 AM
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 09, 2011 at 08:12 AM
Hindi ba pwede mag play ng videos from usb device sa denon 1912? I tried kanina to play some videos (avi, mkv mp4) from my 4gb USB and na reread lng ung sila as songs/sounds walang video.
Bump lng sa question ko. Dapat ba external HDD na FAT32 ang gamitin ko pra mka read ng movies?
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 09, 2011 at 11:34 AM
Bump lng sa question ko. Dapat ba external HDD na FAT32 ang gamitin ko pra mka read ng movies?
haven't tried FAT32, pero yung WD HDD ko (NTFS) ayaw mag play. pero ok lang, kasi may WD TV Live naman ako kaya dun nakakabit HDD :D
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 09, 2011 at 11:39 AM
haven't tried FAT32, pero yung WD HDD ko (NTFS) ayaw mag play. pero ok lang, kasi may WD TV Live naman ako kaya dun nakakabit HDD :D
So sir your using a WD TV Live pra mag play ng mga movies? Media player yan dba?
Post by: Conan on Sep 09, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Hindi ba pwede mag play ng videos from usb device sa denon 1912? I tried kanina to play some videos (avi, mkv mp4) from my 4gb USB and na reread lng ung sila as songs/sounds walang video.
It's only for music and picture playback and must be FAT32.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 09, 2011 at 12:26 PM
So sir your using a WD TV Live pra mag play ng mga movies? Media player yan dba?
yup, heto setup ko:
WD HDD --usb--> WD TV Live --hdmi--> Denon --hdmi--> TV
:)
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 09, 2011 at 01:14 PM
It's only for music and picture playback and must be FAT32.
Uu nga sir hindi pwede video kahit pag network. So need talaga ng Media player right? (ea. WD Live)
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 09, 2011 at 01:20 PM
yup, heto setup ko:
WD HDD --usb--> WD TV Live --hdmi--> Denon --hdmi--> TV
:)
Ayos yan! I'll invest someday sa dedicated media player. Ganito set-up ko pag play ng video:
PC --networked--> PS3 --HDMI--> Denon - pag mga anime dl at pag tinatamad mag copy sa HDD. ;D
HDD --USB--> TV --Optical--> Denon - pag DD at DTS lng ung movie.
Salamat sa info brader!
Post by: [r0n1n] on Sep 10, 2011 at 09:58 AM
Ayos yan! I'll invest someday sa dedicated media player. Ganito set-up ko pag play ng video:
PC --networked--> PS3 --HDMI--> Denon - pag mga anime dl at pag tinatamad mag copy sa HDD. ;D
HDD --USB--> TV --Optical--> Denon - pag DD at DTS lng ung movie.
Salamat sa info brader!
no problem! :)
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 11, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2011 at 09:42 AM
hi denon users,just got an old denon2807.tanong ko lang kung papaano i adjust yung speaker level without deactivating audyssey?si net kasi ng audyssey yung right speaker ng malakas kaya gusto ko syang bawasan ng 1db.thanks in advance.may channel level enter button yan.
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 11, 2011 at 01:08 PM
may channel level enter button yan.sir,binago ko yuung setting ko sa right rear speaker ko (dati kasi si net sya ng audyssey +2,changed it to 0 kasi malakas sya compared sa left) thru the channel level button.but when i view the speaker setting dun sa set up menu,yung previous setting pa din yung nakasave?wala bang paraan para mabago yung setting dun?pahabol na question,pag naka red ba yung light nung multieq ibig sabihin naka on yung audyssey?pag green ano ibig sabihin?thanks
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2011 at 11:55 PM
sir,binago ko yuung setting ko sa right rear speaker ko (dati kasi si net sya ng audyssey +2,changed it to 0 kasi malakas sya compared sa left) thru the channel level button.but when i view the speaker setting dun sa set up menu,yung previous setting pa din yung nakasave?wala bang paraan para mabago yung setting dun?pahabol na question,pag naka red ba yung light nung multieq ibig sabihin naka on yung audyssey?pag green ano ibig sabihin?thanksyung red sa left side, ibig sabihin nun may pinalitan ka na values after audyssey calib.
yung right side naman pag naka green ibig sabihin naka ON ang dynamic volume, pag off red din sya.
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 12, 2011 at 12:09 AM
yung red sa left side, ibig sabihin nun may pinalitan ka na values after audyssey calib.ok,thanks
yung right side naman pag naka green ibig sabihin naka ON ang dynamic volume, pag off red din sya.
Post by: crxs07 on Oct 03, 2011 at 01:53 AM
just recently, while i was watching movie, my avr suddenly shut down, but everthing in my HT set up are still running. the standby light is flashing red. ive checked the manual and it says exactly this:
symptom: power switches off suddenly while you are using the AVR-1910, the power indicator will flash red at intervals of approx 0.5 sec.
Cause: 1. use speaker having impedance less than specified.
2. If speaker cable core wires touch each other or the core wires become disconnected from their terminals, the protection ckt will be activated in the event of core wires coming into contact with the AVR-1910 rear panel.
Countermeasure: 1. please use speakers which have the specified impedance.
2. Unplug the power cord, then after twisting the core wires together tightly again, or effecting termination treatments etc, please reconnect once again.
ang ginwa ko po i reconnected all speaker and video wires, i checked all wires kun me nabalatan or kinagat ng daga pero intact naman po lahat. i reconnect all speaker wires to banana plug just to make sure that evrything will be okay.
then just this evening after long hours of rewiring i tried to watch some movie pero sa kasamaang palad ganon parin po.
i have been using my avr and speakers for almost 2 years, wala naman ako nagagalaw sa connection kya nagtataka ako bakit ganito na bigla avr ko. huhu..pls help naman po. gusto ko man iparepair sa service center kaso sa palawan pa ako. ipapaship ko pa cia para lang maparepair. baka maaus ko pa before ko ipadala.
btw: ito po ang simpleng set up ko just in case un need.
panasonic 42 pv80
denon 1910 avr
polk audio tsi 300 front, center and sorrounds
polk audion dsw pro 500 sub
ps3 slim
HDX
castle power line filter
stac avr 1500w
pls help, thanks guys. thanks pdvd.
Post by: bryan338 on Oct 03, 2011 at 02:34 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 03, 2011 at 06:09 AM
Post by: boyet0173 on Oct 10, 2011 at 04:27 PM
hi, i need some help with my denon 1910
just recently, while i was watching movie, my avr suddenly shut down, but everthing in my HT set up are still running. the standby light is flashing red. ive checked the manual and it says exactly this:
symptom: power switches off suddenly while you are using the AVR-1910, the power indicator will flash red at intervals of approx 0.5 sec.
Cause: 1. use speaker having impedance less than specified.
2. If speaker cable core wires touch each other or the core wires become disconnected from their terminals, the protection ckt will be activated in the event of core wires coming into contact with the AVR-1910 rear panel.
Countermeasure: 1. please use speakers which have the specified impedance.
2. Unplug the power cord, then after twisting the core wires together tightly again, or effecting termination treatments etc, please reconnect once again.
ang ginwa ko po i reconnected all speaker and video wires, i checked all wires kun me nabalatan or kinagat ng daga pero intact naman po lahat. i reconnect all speaker wires to banana plug just to make sure that evrything will be okay.
then just this evening after long hours of rewiring i tried to watch some movie pero sa kasamaang palad ganon parin po.
i have been using my avr and speakers for almost 2 years, wala naman ako nagagalaw sa connection kya nagtataka ako bakit ganito na bigla avr ko. huhu..pls help naman po. gusto ko man iparepair sa service center kaso sa palawan pa ako. ipapaship ko pa cia para lang maparepair. baka maaus ko pa before ko ipadala.
btw: ito po ang simpleng set up ko just in case un need.
panasonic 42 pv80
denon 1910 avr
polk audio tsi 300 front, center and sorrounds
polk audion dsw pro 500 sub
ps3 slim
HDX
castle power line filter
stac avr 1500w
pls help, thanks guys. thanks pdvd.
Sir crxs07, have the same problem with my 1908 avr..I fixed it in power section..now working na di na namamatay..
You may call if you want to repair..09175504902
Regards,
Boyet
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM
Sir crxs07, have the same problem with my 1908 avr..I fixed it in power section..now working na di na namamatay..hi bro, anong ibig sabihin na naayos sya sa "power section" sa power supply ang naging problema?
You may call if you want to repair..09175504902
Regards,
Boyet
minor or major tweak/repair ba? just curious :)
Post by: boyet0173 on Oct 11, 2011 at 09:44 AM
hi bro, anong ibig sabihin na naayos sya sa "power section" sa power supply ang naging problema?
minor or major tweak/repair ba? just curious :)
ninjababez, sa power section may mga cold solder that caused avr shutdown. sobrang init ng heat sink..try to re-solder then lagyan mo ng maliit na fan sa heatsink..ung ang ginawa ko ok na di namamatay.
Regards
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 11, 2011 at 04:35 PM
ninjababez, sa power section may mga cold solder that caused avr shutdown. sobrang init ng heat sink..try to re-solder then lagyan mo ng maliit na fan sa heatsink..ung ang ginawa ko ok na di namamatay.thanks bro. kinda reminds me of the compaq CQ40 models ng hp laptops. :)
Regards
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2011 at 06:43 AM
my current setup
HTPC > Denon 1912 > Plasma TV
may option ba to bypass the receiver's function? kumbaga i want to Bypass HDMI signal when/while receiver is off. tried turning off the receiver, nawala lang display sa screen ;D
kasi minsan may mga movies na mas prefer ko tv speakers ang gamitin (e.g. tv series, drama or comedy).
gusto ko rin kasi makatipid sa kuryente kahit paano kasi pag sinimulan mo ang tv series, tuloy tuloy sya kaya medyo matagal tagal na gamitan :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 12, 2011 at 06:49 AM
hi guys quick question.
my current setup
HTPC > Denon 1912 > Plasma TV
may option ba to bypass the receiver's function? kumbaga i want to Bypass HDMI signal when/while receiver is off. tried turning off the receiver, nawala lang display sa screen ;D
kasi minsan may mga movies na mas prefer ko tv speakers ang gamitin (e.g. tv series, drama or comedy).
gusto ko rin kasi makatipid sa kuryente kahit paano kasi pag sinimulan mo ang tv series, tuloy tuloy sya kaya medyo matagal tagal na gamitan :)
Bro try mo kaya gumamit ng HDMI switcher. :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2011 at 07:03 AM
Bro try mo kaya gumamit ng HDMI switcher. :Dwill get splitter from vtec doc ;D
sa onkyo kasi dati pwede eh :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2011 at 07:06 AM
will try this later :)
Post by: Tempter on Oct 12, 2011 at 09:39 AM
mukhang ito na ang sagot sa tanong ko .. HDMI Control (http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/amps-pre-pros-receivers/70795-denon-avr-4311-bypass-hdmi-signal-receiver-off.html)
will try this later :)
AFAIK, malakas pa rin sa kuryente kapag nakabypass mode ang receiver.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 12, 2011 at 11:04 AM
AFAIK, malakas pa rin sa kuryente kapag nakabypass mode ang receiver.nyak thanks Tempter. buti nalang naka-reserve na sakin yung HDMI splitter ;D ;D
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 15, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Post by: Courage on Oct 15, 2011 at 08:07 PM
mga gurus noob question lang. Wala kasing pre-out ung 1911 ko, wala na bang ibang way(s) na ikabit sya sa external power amp? yung 2-ch power amp lang sana plano ko para sa L/R. Or upgrade na sa higher model? :-\
Upgrade to an AVR with pre-out is your solution sir...
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 16, 2011 at 07:34 AM
Upgrade to an AVR with pre-out is your solution sir...
sigh ;D thanks Courage!
Post by: boyet0173 on Oct 17, 2011 at 02:54 PM
sigh ;D thanks Courage!
sir r0n1n, ung 1908 may preout..
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 18, 2011 at 01:20 AM
sir r0n1n, ung 1908 may preout..
thanks boyet for that information ;) but i see myself upgrading to either 2311 or 3311. pass muna dun sa bagong XX12 series, mahal pa e ;D
Post by: cnn on Oct 22, 2011 at 08:53 AM
I'm new to the DENON AVR and would like to know how to setup my current HTPC to my Denon 1909 AVR via HDMI. Planning to use it 50% Video / 50% audio.
My current HTPC connects to my Sony LCD via HDMI.
Will this setup work? HTPC ----> DENON 1909 ----> Sony LCD (All using HDMI connections?
Thanks guys... :D
Post by: powghi on Oct 22, 2011 at 05:15 PM
Hi there DENON user. Can anyone assist me with my setup?
I'm new to the DENON AVR and would like to know how to setup my current HTPC to my Denon 1909 AVR via HDMI. Planning to use it 50% Video / 50% audio.
My current HTPC connects to my Sony LCD via HDMI.
Will this setup work? HTPC ----> DENON 1909 ----> Sony LCD (All using HDMI connections?
Thanks guys... :D
naka denon ka na din pala sir! Hehe! Ano ba yung previous avr mo?
Post by: cnn on Oct 22, 2011 at 06:30 PM
naka denon ka na din pala sir! Hehe! Ano ba yung previous avr mo?
;D ;D ;D PIONEER Elite 41... Miss ko na nga yun kasi maganda yung learning remote unit... huhuhu
But try ko muna ito DENON... sans ok na ito para walang additional upgrade gastos :)
Post by: torque on Oct 28, 2011 at 11:04 AM
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Post by: Courage on Oct 28, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Got my free Denon 1612 today!
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Wow.. congrats sir on your new toy...
Post by: torque on Oct 28, 2011 at 11:16 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 28, 2011 at 01:08 PM
Got my free Denon 1612 today!
baket free? baka may kapatid pa yan? ;D congrats sir!
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 28, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Got my free Denon 1612 today!congrats bro. ..
baket free? baka may kapatid pa yan? ;D congrats sir!ditto ;D
Post by: volcomstoner on Oct 28, 2011 at 10:01 PM
Pahingi ng opinyon..i have a denon dra 685 (nabili kay sir cnn)
100watts per chanel..whats the best thing to pair this for metal listening?
Titus bs? Polk audio rti a3?
Post by: torque on Oct 28, 2011 at 11:16 PM
baket free? baka may kapatid pa yan? ;D congrats sir!
r0n1n, ninjababez,
Got it using my Skymiles points. Free shipping din ;D
Post by: snobol68 on Oct 29, 2011 at 11:39 AM
Got my free Denon 1612 today!
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Nice one how much? planning to get one. wait FREE? how come you got it free? PM naman jan boss hehehe ;D
Post by: powghi on Oct 29, 2011 at 01:27 PM
Post by: torque on Oct 31, 2011 at 10:11 AM
wow swerte naman may free AVR. . . Jackpot. . . Sir torque, pamigay mo na lang din yung previous AVR mo. Hehe!
powghi, baka ibigay ko na lang sa kapatid ko yung Onkyo502... ;D
snobol68,
Inipon ko lang bro yung Delta Airlines' Skymiles points. Nung umabot na sa required points saka ako nag avail ng Denon1612 :D
https://marketplace.delta.com/category.aspx?CategoryID=1301&catPage=1 (https://marketplace.delta.com/category.aspx?CategoryID=1301&catPage=1)
Post by: powghi on Oct 31, 2011 at 11:13 AM
powghi, baka ibigay ko na lang sa kapatid ko yung Onkyo502... ;D
Kuya ako ang nawawala mong kapatid ;D ::)
Post by: torque on Oct 31, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Sabi ko na nga ba may kapatid pa akong iba...hehehe ;)
Post by: snobol68 on Oct 31, 2011 at 06:56 PM
snobol68,
Inipon ko lang bro yung Delta Airlines' Skymiles points. Nung umabot na sa required points saka ako nag avail ng Denon1612
https://marketplace.delta.com/category.aspx?CategoryID=1301&catPage=1
thanks sir torque! how's the performance? planning to get denon avr for ht
Post by: james16 on Nov 01, 2011 at 06:30 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 01, 2011 at 08:32 PM
tanong ko lang, parang nabasa ko sa isang sa mga thread, yung denon 1912 walang upscaling? so pano pq nya as compared to other receivers or ang bd player at tv na bahala sa pq nya?
akala ko same lang sya ng 1911, yung airplay lang ang alam kong difference. wala nga syang upscaling/upconversion features.
Below is an excert from Whathifi:
"But, while last year’s equivalent model included video upconversion and upscaling, Denon has decided to sacrifice the latter.
This means that the amp will take video from sources that don’t have a HDMI output and convert them so they can be output over HDMI, but it can’t upscale a lower-resolution image to the likes of 720p or 1080p. You’ll need to let your display device or source handle this. "
Post by: james16 on Nov 03, 2011 at 06:24 AM
akala ko same lang sya ng 1911, yung airplay lang ang alam kong difference. wala nga syang upscaling/upconversion features.
Below is an excert from Whathifi:
"But, while last year’s equivalent model included video upconversion and upscaling, Denon has decided to sacrifice the latter.
This means that the amp will take video from sources that don’t have a HDMI output and convert them so they can be output over HDMI, but it can’t upscale a lower-resolution image to the likes of 720p or 1080p. You’ll need to let your display device or source handle this. "
ok thanks for this :)
Post by: dandyqb on Nov 05, 2011 at 10:06 PM
im planning to get my first AVR, and considering different brands and denon is one of them, but i have a very limited budget, what model has the cheapest price po and where? the important thing is a least its 5.1, w/ HDMI foy my lappy/PC as movie/music player, and for the meantime i will use my 5.1 speakers here,thanks po :)
Post by: sultan72 on Nov 07, 2011 at 08:30 PM
Unfortunately their aftersales service (lotte)is a different story.
Had my dads less than 100 hr used and just barely a year 3310
serviced for repair early july 2011.
Its nov. 5 now and they have not fixed the damn thing yet! Still waiting for the replacement parts daw.
The only upside is their reseller a member of pdvd was more than accomodating and lent us a 2210 til the unit is fixed.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 14, 2011 at 10:49 PM
anyone here able to use "universal remote" function of their receiver?
i have an LG TV and wanted to use the receivers remote to control it. thanks :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 15, 2011 at 05:48 PM
hi guys quick question lang for 1912 users or denon users with the same remote.
anyone here able to use "universal remote" function of their receiver?
i have an LG TV and wanted to use the receivers remote to control it. thanks :)
hi sir ninjababez, I'm able to use the avr (1911) remote to control my Samsung LED. Just make sure to input the correct preset codes for LG (there maybe a number of codes, you just need to select which one will work). For Samsung, there are 4 preset codes, and the last one worked for my tv.
btw, my remote maybe different from yours, but just in case I'm using RC-1146. hope this helps.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM
hi sir ninjababez, I'm able to use the avr (1911) remote to control my Samsung LED. Just make sure to input the correct preset codes for LG (there maybe a number of codes, you just need to select which one will work). For Samsung, there are 4 preset codes, and the last one worked for my tv.hi thanks for reply bro, where did you get the codes?
btw, my remote maybe different from yours, but just in case I'm using RC-1146. hope this helps.
yun ba yung nasa auto setup?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2011 at 11:12 PM
hi thanks for reply bro, where did you get the codes?
yun ba yung nasa auto setup?
your manual should have a separate booklet that contains the codes you can use in controlling other equipment, if not, you can check in the denon site and dl perhaps.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 15, 2011 at 11:32 PM
your manual should have a separate booklet that contains the codes you can use in controlling other equipment, if not, you can check in the denon site and dl perhaps.nasa cd yung manual ng denon, pareho nung nasa online.
iba na kasi ang format ng denon remote ngayon
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eto image nung ibig ko sabihin kung kasama na ba sa setup yung code.
r0n1n
di ko magets kung ano yung input source and device on instruction dito. :-\
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2011 at 11:40 PM
in your illustration, you need to input 10556 as code but if it will not work, there is another code 10556(1/2), im sure there is an option to check the other code.
when programming the TV, press the button that says TV in your remote and follow the rest of the instructions
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 16, 2011 at 12:06 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Denon Masters, I need your opinions/suggestions/recommendations on the Denon AVR-2311CI 7.2 Channel A/V Surround Sound Receiver. I am going to upgrade and I am looking to upgarde to this AVR. Does anybody own this? :)bro marts paghandaan mo na ang remote configuration nyan, malaki pinag iba dun sa dati natin nakagawian. :D :D
btw on paper mukhang swak na swak sya na upgrade para satin na nang galing sa 1509, yun lang masasabi ko sa ngayon :D
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 16, 2011 at 08:43 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 08:54 AM
Tama si sir onkyo, sa case mo select mo yung tv as source. Mukhang nakita mo na yung codes at 2 yung options mo. Gumana na?di pa bro, pero same ba tayo ng screenshots?
dun na ako sa last part nagugugluhan yung press any key to test or something.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 16, 2011 at 10:23 AM
di pa bro, pero same ba tayo ng screenshots?
dun na ako sa last part nagugugluhan yung press any key to test or something.
Magkaiba bro. After mo ma-input yung code try mo press yung menu sa avr remote. Eto yung pang test ko. Make sure na naka select yung tv sa avr mo. Pag hindi nag work, press mo yung quickselect2 then repeat yung process ng pag input ng codes then try another code. Then try mo ulit kung nakocontrol mo na yung tv. Pag nag work na tska mo press yung quickselect1.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Magkaiba bro. After mo ma-input yung code try mo press yung menu sa avr remote. Eto yung pang test ko. Make sure na naka select yung tv sa avr mo. Pag hindi nag work, press mo yung quickselect2 then repeat yung process ng pag input ng codes then try another code. Then try mo ulit kung nakocontrol mo na yung tv. Pag nag work na tska mo press yung quickselect1.thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
will this work on my tv even if the receiver is off? :)
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:18 AM
bro marts paghandaan mo na ang remote configuration nyan, malaki pinag iba dun sa dati natin nakagawian. :D :D
btw on paper mukhang swak na swak sya na upgrade para satin na nang galing sa 1509, yun lang masasabi ko sa ngayon :D
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;Danong katumbas nyan sa atin dito bro?
Post by: jao143 on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:31 AM
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;D
Di ka magsisisi dito sir marts ;D ;D ;D
I'm currently using this on my system :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 16, 2011 at 12:43 PM
thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
will this work on my tv even if the receiver is off? :)
I suppose it should but havent tried it yet hehe balitaan mo din kmi :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 16, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Ok I changed my mind. I am leaning to a better upgrade - 4310CI nalang ;D
that's the way to do it my friend
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 16, 2011 at 04:00 PM
that's the way to do it my friend
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
and if you want to complete the fun, get the 4311 ftw.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 08:39 PM
that's the way to do it my friendano ba katumbas ng 4310CI and 2310CI sa atin bro?
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM
Di ka magsisisi dito sir marts ;D ;D ;D
I'm currently using this on my system :)
Great! ;D A very good friend insisted that if I upgrade, I should upgrade to a worthy receiver. So I am taking his advice! ;D
that's the way to do it my friend
"upgrade" is not the same as "change", if you choose the 2310CI, then you are "changing" from 1509 to 2310CI.
but if you choose the 4310CI, you are "upgrading" from 1509 to 4310CI
I strongly agree brader Pip! ;D
and if you want to complete the fun, get the 4311 ftw.
I would love to upgrade to this, but this is a little hard to acquire. :(
ano ba katumbas ng 4310CI and 2310CI sa atin bro?
What exactly do you mean brader Jamy? Are you asking katumbas na ibang receiver?
Post by: Courage on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM
and if you want to complete the fun, get the 4311 ftw.
+1 he he he... Go go go brader.. Upgrade naaaaa
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:57 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 17, 2011 at 12:13 AM
+1 he he he... Go go go brader.. Upgrade naaaaa
Actually, the upgrade will depend on how much I can buy it in Dubai. I am leaving for Abu Dhabi on Dec. and will have a side trip to Dubai. Mura daw gamit don, so titingin ako. ;D
bro marts disregard my question, akala ko kanina ibang version yung receiver (e.g. US ver/EU ver etc.) ;D ;D
Got it! ;)
Post by: Courage on Nov 17, 2011 at 10:54 AM
Actually, the upgrade will depend on how much I can buy it in Dubai. I am leaving for Abu Dhabi on Dec. and will have a side trip to Dubai. Mura daw gamit don, so titingin ako. ;D
Got it! ;)
Mura nga kasi walang TAX according to my friends there.. I think we have a member here na nasa DUBAI..
Post by: AppleMan on Nov 18, 2011 at 03:11 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2011 at 03:43 AM
Mga peeps yang 2312 nasa 3,600 dirhams dun sa Dubai Mall sa Denon store mismo kaso Made in China daw according dun sa pinoy na salesman.oki lang bro china-man ka naman :D :D
sobrang mura naman nyan :'(
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 18, 2011 at 04:17 AM
Post by: AppleMan on Nov 18, 2011 at 04:26 AM
Yung 1912 nga pala EQ XT na sya.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2011 at 05:10 AM
Yung 1912 nasa 2,200 dirhams lang made in china
Yung 1912 nga pala EQ XT na sya.
1 AED = 11.8117 PHP, so ibig sabihin P42.5K. Magkano ba usual price nito dyan sa atin?yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
Post by: Yunarce on Nov 18, 2011 at 09:01 AM
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
I second that.. :)
Post by: retro12195 on Nov 18, 2011 at 09:24 AM
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.sa eBAY 306$ lang free shipping pa REFURBISHED nga lang ;)
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2011 at 10:56 AM
sa eBAY 306$ lang free shipping pa REFURBISHED nga lang ;)
hayz why can't our local distro/seller push for a lower price.
yung reasoning nila na"di naman maraming bumibili kaya di mababaan ang presyo, di makapasok ng marami nyan" parang kalokohan lang, panong bibili ang tao kung ganun kamahal ::) ::)
sorry vent out lang hehehe ang mahal kasi ng bili ko nung sakin hahaha
Post by: nogie on Nov 18, 2011 at 11:19 AM
hayz why can't our local distro/seller push for a lower price.
yung reasoning nila na"di naman maraming bumibili kaya di mababaan ang presyo, di makapasok ng marami nyan" parang kalokohan lang, panong bibili ang tao kung ganun kamahal ::) ::)
sorry vent out lang hehehe ang mahal kasi ng bili ko nung sakin hahaha
Okey lang yon brader jami, at least me peace of mind ka naman because of the warranty provided by local sellers. Tsaka "priceless" ang me peace of mind, on other hand, yong presyo ng bili mo sa 1912 dito baka 3312 na ang mabibili pag US ka nag-source. ;)
Post by: Stagea on Nov 18, 2011 at 01:00 PM
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
I think the 125w rating was derived from the performance with a 1kHz test tone into a 6 ohm load with a THD tolerance of 0.7%. The 90w rating is more reliable, as it is a full band measurement into 8 ohms and is done with a tighter tolerance.
Afaik, both ratings are for 2ch driven.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 18, 2011 at 02:18 PM
Okey lang yon brader jami, at least me peace of mind ka naman because of the warranty provided by local sellers. Tsaka "priceless" ang me peace of mind, on other hand, yong presyo ng bili mo sa 1912 dito baka 3312 na ang mabibili pag US ka nag-source. ;)sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
ok lang sana sakin mag source sa US, kaso wala naman CC payment hehehe
I think the 125w rating was derived from the performance with a 1kHz test tone into a 6 ohm load with a THD tolerance of 0.7%. The 90w rating is more reliable, as it is a full band measurement into 8 ohms and is done with a tighter tolerance.sa box ko lang nakita yung 125 watts bro, pero i was not expecting much naman pagdating sa power maliit lang naman ht/bedroom ko (10 sq meter) ;D
Afaik, both ratings are for 2ch driven.
Post by: nogie on Nov 18, 2011 at 03:01 PM
sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
ok lang sana sakin mag source sa US, kaso wala naman CC payment hehehe
Pwede credit card bilhin mo sa amazon then ship it directly to forwarding company like pobox.ph. ;D
Post by: Courage on Nov 18, 2011 at 10:53 PM
sana man lang yung older models, mabenta nila ng mas mababa ;D
ok lang sana sakin mag source sa US, kaso wala naman CC payment hehehe
sa box ko lang nakita yung 125 watts bro, pero i was not expecting much naman pagdating sa power maliit lang naman ht/bedroom ko (10 sq meter) ;D
Ako what i did was. Ebay via paypal or CC, ship sa kamaganak sa US, then ship nila sayo..
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 19, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Ako what i did was. Ebay via paypal or CC, ship sa kamaganak sa US, then ship nila sayo..ahh pwede, hanap ako kamag anak dun ;D
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM
thanks bro, will try this later after doing the laundry hahaha
will this work on my tv even if the receiver is off? :)
@ ninjababez, na-try ko na 'to pwedeng pwede macontrol ang tv kahit naka off ang amp. Hth
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2011 at 02:30 AM
@ ninjababez, na-try ko na 'to pwedeng pwede macontrol ang tv kahit naka off ang amp. Hthkinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
maski yung 8 in 1 universal remote nauubos pasensya ko :D
bibili nalang ako ng night stand para patungan ng maraming remote including keyboard, mouse and laptop :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 24, 2011 at 05:58 AM
kinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
maski yung 8 in 1 universal remote nauubos pasensya ko :D
bibili nalang ako ng night stand para patungan ng maraming remote including keyboard, mouse and laptop :)
nyaaah :D try mo to, granted na ok na yung codes na pinaguusapan natin dati:
1. habang naka off yung amp, press mo amp selector sa remote until zone 2 is selected.
2. press on/off buttons for Zone 2/Device (not the main on/off button). kapag nag on yung tv, ok na
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2011 at 03:07 PM
nyaaah :D try mo to, granted na ok na yung codes na pinaguusapan natin dati:will try this thanks :)
1. habang naka off yung amp, press mo amp selector sa remote until zone 2 is selected.
2. press on/off buttons for Zone 2/Device (not the main on/off button). kapag nag on yung tv, ok na
Post by: raptor on Nov 24, 2011 at 03:43 PM
kinainisan ko yung pag setup bro ;D
maski yung 8 in 1 universal remote nauubos pasensya ko :D
bibili nalang ako ng night stand para patungan ng maraming remote including keyboard, mouse and laptop :)
try using Logitech Harmony ... using one to control my Denon 1909, Panasonic 42PV8, TVIX NMT, and Sony BD player .... activity base pa yung remote, you can have multiple activities in one button press - e.g. when i select watch movie, power-on na yung NMT, TV, and AVR in one press
Post by: disturbed on Nov 24, 2011 at 04:07 PM
Post by: raptor on Nov 25, 2011 at 02:44 AM
^ we have almost the same set of gears sir raptor (1909, PV8, NMT)..what is the model of your logitech harmony..I like that function..one press lang on lahat! :)
[OT for this thread]
using Harmony 585, bought for SGD 99, one of the entry-level ng Logitech Harmony ... all activities are programmable like listen to music (you can select which devices turns on and in any sequence)
Post by: AppleMan on Nov 25, 2011 at 02:50 AM
Post by: raptor on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:17 AM
Mga Tol, ano po ba ang function nyang Logitech Harmony? Magkano po ba price nyan? sorry po sa OT
na-hijack na yata natin thread ng Denon, but anyway, it is basically a universal learning remote in which you can download the controls of your devices through the Logitech database which they update on a regular basis ... different models are available, prices vary from features and maximum no. of devices they can control (entry levels can control max. of 4 devices)
the difference with other remotes is that it is activity-based programmable ... besides sequential power-on of the devices, it also goes to the mode needed for the activity - e.g the AV receiver selecting DVD player as input for the selected activity ... it can also be used as a standard device remote to control your devices besides being an activity based remote
you'll need to plug it to your PC and connect to Internet to update the device database, as well as to program the activity ... here's a link to their site for more details - http://www.logitech.com/en-sg/remotes
Post by: riven319 on Dec 02, 2011 at 04:27 PM
Post by: RastaSega on Dec 02, 2011 at 05:21 PM
since trueHD won't work using optical or coax then malaking problema nga to.
Honestly I don't know if daisy-chaining HDMI cables will work.
Since kilala kita I know for a fact na pag bumili ka ng hdmi 1.4 splitter and this 2HDMI cable system works MANGANGATI ka parin mag upgrade.
If it doesn't work then gumastos ka pa ng splitter. Tapos mag uupgrade ka parin.
So basically... alam mo na sagot :)
Totally unrelated (:bag:) - ganda daw ng AirPlay.
Post by: riven319 on Dec 02, 2011 at 06:15 PM
anyway, meron kasi ako kilala na tnry nya hdmi splitter 1.4 "daw" and nagpass "daw" ng 3d signal... the problem is I forgot to ask kung yung ginamitan ba nya ay 3d blu ray or yng mga sbs file; they might be different altogether. and I'm really set to use a splitter if it works kasi I'm quite satisfied with my current avr masyado mataas ang premium ngayon just for 3d pass through functionality that I'd be willing to go back to optical if wala talagang ibang alternative hehe.
p.s. oi di mo pa talaga ako ganun kakilala kung ganun lol influence mo lahat yan sir... I was quite happy with my setup before hahahahah
Post by: RastaSega on Dec 03, 2011 at 01:51 PM
Like I said last night sa phone ang HDMI signal "phones home" back to the source.
Per HDMI protocol, only the lower video and audio formats connected to the single HDMI video source will be supported.
For example:
1) The HDMI video source will send 720P video out if two display units connected to the splitter outputs are 1080P and 720P;
2) The audio format will be stereo if the TV connected to the splitter output can only do stereo (most TVs can only deliver stereo sound)
So in your case your receiver cannot process 3d video. This info is communicated back to the source (ps3) by the receiver and thus limiting your video to non-3d.
To get 3D, all units connected to the splitter outputs must support 3D
To get Surround Sound, all units at the outputs must support the selected surround sound format
So I guess unless you get a splitter that doesn't abide by HDMI protocol then you're set. Unless of course something like that doesn't exist.
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-2311CI-Channel-Surround-Receiver/dp/B003MQLSMI/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
Post by: riven319 on Dec 04, 2011 at 01:32 AM
I'm trying to arrange for a dual hdmi out 3d bd player as replacement for the promo option I had... well sana maapprove muna yun. If not, might just stick with the separate hdmi and optical option (now where did I hide those damn toslinks hahaha).
Thanks for your effort in clearing this up ;)
Now, I'm wondering if it will be the same for 3d games in the ps3 (I believe they are using a different method of 3d rendering for games compared to 3d movies)
p.s. baket may link ka dyan? hahahahaha. ikaw lang may pambili nyan sir :D things are different now compared to when we were single hehe.. so cheap alternatives lang tayo ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 04, 2011 at 03:14 AM
according to my own readings sir, mukhang ganun nga for the meantime... buti na lang I did not jump to the splitter option right away...bro OT sa topic mo ha .. 2311 mo ba may multeqxt na, or multeq lang? :)
I'm trying to arrange for a dual hdmi out 3d bd player as replacement for the promo option I had... well sana maapprove muna yun. If not, might just stick with the separate hdmi and optical option (now where did I hide those damn toslinks hahaha).
Thanks for your effort in clearing this up ;)
Now, I'm wondering if it will be the same for 3d games in the ps3 (I believe they are using a different method of 3d rendering for games compared to 3d movies)
p.s. baket may link ka dyan? hahahahaha. ikaw lang may pambili nyan sir :D things are different now compared to when we were single hehe.. so cheap alternatives lang tayo ;)
Post by: riven319 on Dec 04, 2011 at 03:29 PM
sorry sir wala pa po ko balak bumili ng 2311 as of now 2309 pa din receiver ko.... and I have no idea on the price of the 2311 locally... does anyone know a base figure? anyway, based sa mga kakabasa ko sa 3d pass through sa receivers parang multeq pa sya (at least based dun sa CI version sa states).. and the xt version will probably be implemented in the next series (xx12)
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 04, 2011 at 09:45 PM
sir ninjababez,ah i see, i was looking for a receiver with pre outs kasi ;D
sorry sir wala pa po ko balak bumili ng 2311 as of now 2309 pa din receiver ko.... and I have no idea on the price of the 2311 locally... does anyone know a base figure? anyway, based sa mga kakabasa ko sa 3d pass through sa receivers parang multeq pa sya (at least based dun sa CI version sa states).. and the xt version will probably be implemented in the next series (xx12)
Post by: Yunarce on Dec 19, 2011 at 09:19 PM
If “Front” and “Center” for “Speaker Config.” are set to “Large”, and
“Subwoofer Mode” is set to “LFE”, no sound may be output from the
subwoofers, depending on the input signal or selected surround mode.
Since I have CS20 and tsi400, large setting nila. Ganun po ba talaga yun hihina ang output sa subwoofer? Or is there something that i could adjust sa setting? (LPF to LFE, LFE+Main) Salamat!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 19, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Mga master! Question lang po. I recently bought tsi 400 so i calibrated my receiver again kase new speaker. After I calibrated, yung subwoofer parang humina siya kahit gawin kong +5db yung channel parang mahina parin unlike before when i was using logitech speakers. This is what i read from the DENON 1912 manualtry to run audyssey again muna :)
If “Front” and “Center” for “Speaker Config.” are set to “Large”, and
“Subwoofer Mode” is set to “LFE”, no sound may be output from the
subwoofers, depending on the input signal or selected surround mode.
Since I have CS20 and tsi400, large setting nila. Ganun po ba talaga yun hihina ang output sa subwoofer? Or is there something that i could adjust sa setting? (LPF to LFE, LFE+Main) Salamat!
kung ganun parin ..
set speakers to small, then cutoff @ 80hz
tanggalin mo yung LFE + Main para sub lang ang tutunog sa lower frequency, tapos cutoff mo sa sub from 120hz to 80hz (timplahin mo nalang) :)
Post by: Yunarce on Dec 19, 2011 at 09:46 PM
try to run audyssey again muna :)
kung ganun parin ..
set speakers to small, then cutoff @ 80hz
tanggalin mo yung LFE + Main para sub lang ang tutunog sa lower frequency, tapos cutoff mo sa sub from 120hz to 80hz (timplahin mo nalang) :)
Ok boss ill try that tomorrow. Ill try to set the subwoofer to LFE then change the speaker size to small. Thanks for the suggestion! My subwoofer btw is Polk PSW125... :D
Post by: disturbed on Dec 20, 2011 at 01:33 PM
and LFE nga lang din..not LFE + Main
pag wala pa din..try relocating your sub
Post by: Yunarce on Dec 20, 2011 at 03:11 PM
ganun din reading ko pag ni calibrate ko sa audyssey sa akin..pero I always follow what I read sa avforums noon from batpigs set up guide..set the fronts to small 60-80hz (depends), satellites ko small din asa 110-120
and LFE nga lang din..not LFE + Main
pag wala pa din..try relocating your sub
Sir salamat din po dito! I though may mababago sa SQ pag small or large speakers ang pipiliin. Para lang pala yun if gusto mo din mag output ng bass or low frequency sa speakers. I found the batpigs guide and sabi dun dapat small lahat ng setting for the subwoofer to handle all the bass. Will post soon if this works! Thanks!!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 20, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Sir salamat din po dito! I though may mababago sa SQ pag small or large speakers ang pipiliin. Para lang pala yun if gusto mo din mag output ng bass or low frequency sa speakers. I found the batpigs guide and sabi dun dapat small lahat ng setting for the subwoofer to handle all the bass. Will post soon if this works! Thanks!!wag mo rin kalimutan yung xover sa sub set it to maximum para receiver na yung filter :)
Post by: Yunarce on Dec 21, 2011 at 07:15 AM
wag mo rin kalimutan yung xover sa sub set it to maximum para receiver na yung filter :)
Sir im not sure about sa xover sa sub pero ito ba yung settings sa receiver? Yung full band or something? Yung sa sub kase ang "pihitan" lang sa likod is volume, low pass at phase. I think I should set the Phase to 0 degrees, low pass maximum and volume midway pag run ko yung Audyssey calibration? Nabasa ko lng. Anyway salamat po ulit. :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 21, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Ayun bumalik yung deep bass sound. Dapat nga naka set yung speakers to small. I will re-run Audyssey mamaya para mag sync ulit sounds. :D
Sir im not sure about sa xover sa sub pero ito ba yung settings sa receiver? Yung full band or something? Yung sa sub kase ang "pihitan" lang sa likod is volume, low pass at phase. I think I should set the Phase to 0 degrees, low pass maximum and volume midway pag run ko yung Audyssey calibration? Nabasa ko lng. Anyway salamat po ulit. :)
(http://www.ivancheam.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/subwoofer-lpf-lfe-settings.jpg)
the knob with Hz, yan dapat set to highest para bypassed sya.
para yung receiver na magbibigay ng feed sa kanya without changes. try mo 120hz then pababain mo nalang according to your preference :)
Post by: Yunarce on Dec 22, 2011 at 10:36 AM
(http://www.ivancheam.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/subwoofer-lpf-lfe-settings.jpg)
the knob with Hz, yan dapat set to highest para bypassed sya.
para yung receiver na magbibigay ng feed sa kanya without changes. try mo 120hz then pababain mo nalang according to your preference :)
Bossing wala po ata ganyang knob sa subwoofer ko which is yung Polk PSW125. Low pass knob lng yung andun which is naka set sa maximum nung nag calibrate ako last night. I dont know if that is the same with crossover frequency but ok naman yung lumabas na result. Medyo binawasan ko lng ng konti after nung calibration. Ill try to experiment yung 120hz sa sub setting kung ano mas maganda tunog. Maraming salamat ulit!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 22, 2011 at 11:00 AM
Post by: nogie on Dec 22, 2011 at 07:48 PM
Bossing wala po ata ganyang knob sa subwoofer ko which is yung Polk PSW125. Low pass knob lng yung andun which is naka set sa maximum nung nag calibrate ako last night. I dont know if that is the same with crossover frequency but ok naman yung lumabas na result. Medyo binawasan ko lng ng konti after nung calibration. Ill try to experiment yung 120hz sa sub setting kung ano mas maganda tunog. Maraming salamat ulit!
A complete guide in room calibration using Audyssey.
Link taken from batpig's signature, a member of AVS Forum and known loyal user of Denon products.
http://batpigworld.com/fadq.html#audyssey
Post by: james16 on Dec 23, 2011 at 10:00 PM
recently got denon 1912 but unfortunately cd-rom ko sira kya nde ko pa nababasa mag calibrate or mag set up ng speakers ng maayos, hope you can help kung paano aayusin or iset sa denon na wala akong sub, 5.0 pa lang gamit ko eh...
at any tips to have this properly calibrated sa audyssey.
tia
Post by: Conan on Dec 23, 2011 at 10:32 PM
hi guys,
recently got denon 1912 but unfortunately cd-rom ko sira kya nde ko pa nababasa mag calibrate or mag set up ng speakers ng maayos, hope you can help kung paano aayusin or iset sa denon na wala akong sub, 5.0 pa lang gamit ko eh...
at any tips to have this properly calibrated sa audyssey.
tia
Right-click, Save as...
http://www.usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Getting%20Started%20Guide_AVR1912.pdf
http://www.usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Owners%20Manual_AVR1912.pdf
Post by: james16 on Dec 24, 2011 at 01:19 AM
Right-click, Save as...
http://www.usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Getting%20Started%20Guide_AVR1912.pdf
http://www.usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/Owners%20Manual_AVR1912.pdf
thanks :)
Post by: james16 on Dec 29, 2011 at 07:27 PM
yung Denon 1912 33.5k Pesos nung nabili ko, so malamang halos doble yung 2312 dito satin.
and yes MultEQXT na :)
sa US website naman nakalagay MultEq lang ang 1912 at mas mababa nasa 90 watts per channel lang yata, unlike dito 125 watts per channel nabili ko :D
ano po pagkakaiba ng MultEQXT sa MultEq?
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 29, 2011 at 11:09 PM
ano po pagkakaiba ng MultEQXT sa MultEq?MultEQ compared to MultEQ XT (http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/109003-multeq-compared-to-multeq-xt)
MultEQ Highlights (http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq)
Post by: james16 on Dec 30, 2011 at 11:48 PM
MultEQ compared to MultEQ XT (http://ask.audyssey.com/entries/109003-multeq-compared-to-multeq-xt)
MultEQ Highlights (http://www.audyssey.com/audio-technology/multeq)
thanks! :)
Post by: R1DVD on Jan 05, 2012 at 05:56 AM
Post by: james16 on Jan 07, 2012 at 03:23 PM
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
have not tried yet but i think hindi sya pwede, i might be wrong though..
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?ill download flac later, will try playing it via 1912 (though i doubt it would work)
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 07, 2012 at 09:20 PM
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383689_10150471642993020_651128019_8845216_1815780275_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/409349_10150471643553020_651128019_8845217_18849228_n.jpg)
This receiver costs Php335,880.00 :o
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406568_10150471643888020_651128019_8845219_162365396_n.jpg)
The model of this receiver is AVCA1HD at Php335,880.00
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385378_10150471644278020_651128019_8845223_1263178100_n.jpg)
The Power Amp below the DVD Player cost Php419,880.00 :o
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/374618_10150471646628020_651128019_8845236_1584341796_n.jpg)
The Denon 1312 is only Php16,788.00 and the 1612 is only Php22,788.00 - mura lang ;D
;D
Post by: jao143 on Jan 07, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Just wanted to share the Denon/Marantz store at the Dubai Mall ;Dbro marts anong naiskor mo? :D
This receiver costs Php335,880.00 :o
The model of this receiver is AVCA1HD at Php335,880.00
The Power Amp below the DVD Player cost Php419,880.00 :o
The Denon 1312 is only Php16,788.00 and the 1612 is only Php22,788.00 - mura lang ;D
;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 07, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
according to this cnet link it does support FLAC (http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/denon-avr-1912/4507-6466_7-34647681.html?tag=mncol;subnav)
Supported digital audio standards AAC,
WMA,
FLAC,
MP3
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 08, 2012 at 01:15 PM
bro marts anong naiskor mo? :D
WALA brader! Wala na akong pera eh!!! :D
Post by: R1DVD on Jan 08, 2012 at 07:36 PM
according to this cnet link it does support FLAC (http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/denon-avr-1912/4507-6466_7-34647681.html?tag=mncol;subnav)
Supported digital audio standards AAC,
WMA,
FLAC,
MP3
I auditioned the 1912 today. I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD. I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly. Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted?
I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT. But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service. In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912. They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out. I hope isolated case lang ito. Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 08:33 PM
I auditioned the 1912 today. I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD. I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly. Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted?baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged ;D
I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT. But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service. In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912. They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out. I hope isolated case lang ito. Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
pero pareho tayo ng situation several months ago, may nabasa rin ako online na sirain daw 1912. i did however checked the manufacturing date before purchasing. can't really comment re: aftersales service, as i never had problems with my previous 1509 and this 1912 (crossing fingers :D ).
re: ntfs not really sure kasi iphone and 8gb flash driver palang nagagmit ko sa usb ng denon.
Post by: R1DVD on Jan 08, 2012 at 10:08 PM
baka naman di ganun kataas ang tubo kaya nila discouraged ;D
pero pareho tayo ng situation several months ago, may nabasa rin ako online na sirain daw 1912. i did however checked the manufacturing date before purchasing. can't really comment re: aftersales service, as i never had problems with my previous 1509 and this 1912 (crossing fingers :D ).
re: ntfs not really sure kasi iphone and 8gb flash driver palang nagagmit ko sa usb ng denon.
Why check the manufacturing date? Were there reports of certain batches being more prone to developing defects?
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 08, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Why check the manufacturing date?
sabi kasi nila sirain nga daw ang 1912, kaya nag check ako online.
Were there reports of certain batches being more prone to developing defects?
yes nung nagcheck ako online yung mga unang labas daw
Post by: kawboy on Jan 09, 2012 at 06:11 AM
I auditioned the 1912 today. I plugged in a 500 GB external HDD with flacs (NTFS-formatted) and the Denon failed to recognize the HDD. I plugged the same HDD to an Onkyo 609 and the FLAC files played flawlessly. Di ba talaga kaya ng Denon ang external HDD, or is it because the HDD is NTFS-formatted?
I really like to buy the 1912 because of airplay and MultEQ XT. But I'm a bit worried because 2 retailers sort of discouraged me from getting a Denon dahil either sirain daw or pangit ang after-sales service. In fact, I went to an AV store today and was told that they don't have stock of 1912. They have 1 daw pero returned item due to defective subwoofer out. I hope isolated case lang ito. Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.
pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.
ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 09, 2012 at 06:38 AM
mukhang lemon yun nakuha mo receiver bro. :-\
Post by: nogie on Jan 09, 2012 at 07:40 AM
Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.
pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.
ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 09, 2012 at 09:11 AM
Kung sa sirain, di naman siguro.
pero once na masira. palpak talaga. si Pure Digital yung humahawak ng repairs. kahit saan mo dalhin, dun binabagsak. I went back 5 times para sa backjob. di pa rin ok hanggang ngayon, sumuko na ako.
kasi tuwing dinadala ko ruon. irerepair nila, icha charge ka sa parts. tapos sasabihin, no labor charge na. eh dapat lang, kaya nga backjob e. last visit ko dun, pumutok pa rin after using 5x, eh, nasa 2k or more yung binayad ko sa parts replacement nung ika limang backjob ko. nag give up na ko. that is 5 backjobs in a span of a year. kahit anong pakiusap ko na silipin ng mabuti, di pa rin ginagawa e.
ayoko ngang isipin na yung backjob is their way of getting after sales profits.
They couldn't solve the root cause of the problem. yung huling punta ko, may kasabayan ako, backjob din yung kanya.
so sorry about your story, pero wala na bang warranty sa shop yun? Or kahit sa shop mo dalahin e sa Pure Digital pa din nila ipapagawa? 1912 ba yung sa yo sir?
Post by: kawboy on Jan 09, 2012 at 08:39 PM
bro kawboy anong pyesa daw ang sira?
mukhang lemon yun nakuha mo receiver bro. :-\
they kept changing the transistor. pero kako, wala duon ang problema, may pinagmumulan kako yun.
di naman siya lemon, I bought it 6 years ago, kay Manong Sonny Tuazon pa. no problem, served me very well. until yun nga...
ang diagnosis nila, naihian ng daga, pero kako, wala ritong daga. likely itong bunso kong 2 year old ang may sala.
una, sa may Mindanao Ave. ko dinala, backjob #1, tapos dun ko na pinickup kay Pure Digital, then ayun na, sunod sunod na backjob. puro halos < 6x lang ang gamit in between. na trauma na nga ako tuwing iswi switch on ko e. yun kasi yung instance na may pumuputok, pero pag On na siya, oks na... hanggang sa next gamit,
Pure Digital yon rin ba yong Repair Shop ng Onkyo (Toyama) at Pioneer sa West Ave.?
not sure about Onkyo, pwede rin siguro. pero I'm not sure.
so sorry about your story, pero wala na bang warranty sa shop yun? Or kahit sa shop mo dalahin e sa Pure Digital pa din nila ipapagawa? 1912 ba yung sa yo sir?
Mine is an old 2105, seldom used, siguro avg. of 10x a year.
pero nung naihian daw ng anak ko, ayun. di na nila maayos ayos.
it was really frustrating coz I have to come from Alabang pa.
they just keep changing the transistor, pero kako, kung di nila maayos yung ugat nung nagcacause ng short, puputok at puputok pa rin yung transistor at 950 ata bawat transistor.
nung huling punta ko, I told them kung may iba pa bang pwedeng gumawa maliban sa kanila, kasi di sila marurunong mag ayos. I really told them that out of frustration. wala daw. sila lang talaga.
tinanong ko din na sabihin lang kung di na kaya ayusin, di ko na ipapaayos.
kaya pa rin daw. pero olats pa rin. putok ulit sa 3rd o 4th use ko.
Then I called to inform them na pumutok ulit. pinababalik ulit sa akin.
kung di nila nakaya ng ilang beses, would I still expect them to be able to resolve it? hindi di ba?
so I asked for a diff. repair center. wala daw talaga. when I insisted. tinuro ako sa Audio World.
natawa nga ako kasi I know Joey, Jason and the rest of the gang.
when I went there mid last week, natawa nga sila, kasi dun daw nila ako dapat ituturo... pabalik sa Pure Digital, kasi dun din daw nila kukunin yung piyesa. kinuwento ko yung nangyari at kako, subukan lang nila kung kaya, kung hindi. hindi na.
outside opinion kumbaga, pero a more trustworthy one as far as Im concerned.
and hopefully, sila maka resolve.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 09, 2012 at 08:50 PM
nasubukan mo na ibang voltage regulator, or rekta sa outlet?
Post by: kawboy on Jan 10, 2012 at 05:38 AM
Stac gamit ko dati. pero when I moved here sa muntinlupa,
I settled on a surge protector... naka 3 channel setup lang naman ako, at di naman ako malakas magpatugtog.
it was fine for 2 years, hanggang sa naihian nga, nagsimula na yung sumpa...
so ayun, Ok naman talaga Denon, ingatan niyo lang na wag masira.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 10, 2012 at 07:23 AM
Oo bro.thanks sa advice bro, sana nga hindi lemon itong bago receiver ko :)
Stac gamit ko dati. pero when I moved here sa muntinlupa,
I settled on a surge protector... naka 3 channel setup lang naman ako, at di naman ako malakas magpatugtog.
it was fine for 2 years, hanggang sa naihian nga, nagsimula na yung sumpa...
so ayun, Ok naman talaga Denon, ingatan niyo lang na wag masira.
Post by: james16 on Jan 10, 2012 at 06:12 PM
Post by: ferdinand on Jan 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM
may sumpong. hehehe
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jan 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Post by: mandyb on Jan 17, 2012 at 08:39 PM
Bro, i have nothing to share about after sales service although you read through some cases in this thread. So far, 3311 for a little over a year and a 2808 for 3.5 years have not left their spot (pwera usog) since. i hope it stays that way.
Can Denon owners share their experience with Denon after-sales service. I plan to buy a receiver within the week and Im leaning towards the Denon 1912 (other options are Onkyo 609/709).
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 19, 2012 at 04:09 AM
Quote
Mine is an old 2105, seldom used, siguro avg. of 10x a year.
pero nung naihian daw ng anak ko, ayun. di na nila maayos ayos.
it was really frustrating coz I have to come from Alabang pa.
they just keep changing the transistor, pero kako, kung di nila maayos yung ugat nung nagcacause ng short, puputok at puputok pa rin yung transistor at 950 ata bawat transistor.
nung huling punta ko, I told them kung may iba pa bang pwedeng gumawa maliban sa kanila, kasi di sila marurunong mag ayos. I really told them that out of frustration. wala daw. sila lang talaga.
tinanong ko din na sabihin lang kung di na kaya ayusin, di ko na ipapaayos.
kaya pa rin daw. pero olats pa rin. putok ulit sa 3rd o 4th use ko.
Then I called to inform them na pumutok ulit. pinababalik ulit sa akin.
kung di nila nakaya ng ilang beses, would I still expect them to be able to resolve it? hindi di ba?
so I asked for a diff. repair center. wala daw talaga. when I insisted. tinuro ako sa Audio World.
natawa nga ako kasi I know Joey, Jason and the rest of the gang.
when I went there mid last week, natawa nga sila, kasi dun daw nila ako dapat ituturo... pabalik sa Pure Digital, kasi dun din daw nila kukunin yung piyesa. kinuwento ko yung nangyari at kako, subukan lang nila kung kaya, kung hindi. hindi na.
outside opinion kumbaga, pero a more trustworthy one as far as Im concerned.
and hopefully, sila maka resolve.
Brader @Kawboy
meron ngang ibang cause yan di siguro nila nilinis maigi yung naihian sa bandang ampli board o pwede din na yung kinakabit nila made in china na parts madaling uminit yung TRANSISTOR pag made in china anong number po nung transistor na pinapalitan? baka di din nila tinetesting ng matagalan after na maikabit yung parts na bago. Kapag ginagamit nyo ba wala ba kayo kakaibang naririnig na tunog like ugong, distorted sound etc. Sa malamang yung balancing ng voltage ng ampli yung TRIMMER baka natuluan ng ihi at nag-cha change na ng value habang ginagamit nyo pag di kasi nag-balance ang voltage ng ampli which is yung TRIMMER ang nagco-control medyo makakarinig ka ng ugong dyan at iinit na yang POWER TRANSISTOR dun na madadale yan at isa pa kung MADE in CHINA yung parts na nilalagay naku paulit-ulit nga na masisira yan subok ko na yan sa mga AMPLI na pang mobile pag-CHINA kinabit na POWER TRANSISTOR ilang oras lang o kaya minuto lang sibak agad yang TRANSISTOR... ;D
Post by: riven319 on Jan 20, 2012 at 01:34 PM
don't know if this has been posted before...
to those with old denon units xx09/x89 this thread may be worth a read :) just sharing...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1177104
Post by: staind01 on Jan 23, 2012 at 04:10 PM
if kelangan pa, anong gamit nyo?
Post by: kawboy on Jan 23, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Brader @Kawboy
meron ngang ibang cause yan di siguro nila nilinis maigi yung naihian sa bandang ampli board o pwede din na yung kinakabit nila made in china na parts madaling uminit yung TRANSISTOR pag made in china anong number po nung transistor na pinapalitan? baka di din nila tinetesting ng matagalan after na maikabit yung parts na bago. Kapag ginagamit nyo ba wala ba kayo kakaibang naririnig na tunog like ugong, distorted sound etc. Sa malamang yung balancing ng voltage ng ampli yung TRIMMER baka natuluan ng ihi at nag-cha change na ng value habang ginagamit nyo pag di kasi nag-balance ang voltage ng ampli which is yung TRIMMER ang nagco-control medyo makakarinig ka ng ugong dyan at iinit na yang POWER TRANSISTOR dun na madadale yan at isa pa kung MADE in CHINA yung parts na nilalagay naku paulit-ulit nga na masisira yan subok ko na yan sa mga AMPLI na pang mobile pag-CHINA kinabit na POWER TRANSISTOR ilang oras lang o kaya minuto lang sibak agad yang TRANSISTOR... ;D
salamat sa tulong brader,
tingin ko, tama yung unang sinabi mo, na di nila nalinis ng maigi.
yung huling apat na balik ko, yun ang ini insist ko, na linisin maigi. olats pa rin.
pag pinapatugtog, walang problema kahit 8 hrs straight.
ang problema, pag ipo-power on.
dun lagi may pumuputok. oras na nakapasok na. maayos na.
Post by: Lancito on Jan 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Post by: -lee- on Feb 07, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 07, 2012 at 09:05 PM
ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? :) pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat poSVS SCS fronts (neutral), denon 1912 (bit warm) = preference ko ;D
Post by: bryan338 on Feb 07, 2012 at 11:50 PM
kinalabit ako ng upgradititis, im using 1910 now, kung upgrade ba ako ng 4311 noticeable ba? my setup now is tsi300/cs10/owm3. receiver ba upgrade ko or speakers muna? thanks
Post by: -lee- on Feb 08, 2012 at 07:22 AM
SVS SCS fronts (neutral), denon 1912 (bit warm) = preference ko ;D
eto po ba first pairing mo sir?
Post by: [joms] on Feb 08, 2012 at 10:54 AM
hello mga experts
kinalabit ako ng upgradititis, im using 1910 now, kung upgrade ba ako ng 4311 noticeable ba? my setup now is tsi300/cs10/owm3. receiver ba upgrade ko or speakers muna? thanks
imo, speakers muna. wait for denon to release the 4313 para bumaba presyo ng 4311. This is what i'm doing as well ;D
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 09, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Ang mahal ng HDMI board dito sa UAE nasa AED 1,650 Dirhams para sa model na AVR-1909 samantalang yung bagong AVR-1912 nasa AED 2,200 Dirhams lang konti na lang idadagdag mo brand new na mabibili mo na unit kaya pala ibinigay na sa akin ni Sir Joey yung unit nyang AVR-789 para ka na din bumili ng bago pag-binili mo yung parts. ???
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM
eto po ba first pairing mo sir?nope, used to have 1509 which was a great match din for my SCS :)
planning to upgrade to SVS STS soon. :)
Post by: james16 on Feb 10, 2012 at 06:51 PM
ano pong speakers ang gamit nyo mga 1912 owners? :) pakisabi na rin po kung ano impression nyo, warm, bright, etc.. salamat po
gamit ko mga luma kong Acoustic Energy Speakers AE Evo 3, warm sya tumunog sakin, lalo na kpag gamit ko yung sony 501es cdp. kulang pa ako ng sub ulit pero so far contented ako sa ht din.
Post by: -lee- on Feb 10, 2012 at 08:21 PM
nope, used to have 1509 which was a great match din for my SCS :)
planning to upgrade to SVS STS soon. :)
baka ngayon na upgrade mo sir, please let me know, baka sakaling pasok sa budget ko yang scs mo. :) gusto ko rin sana mapakinggan yan kaso wag na lang, d kaya presyo eh, baka d ako makatulog pag nagustuhan ko. haha
gamit ko mga luma kong Acoustic Energy Speakers AE Evo 3, warm sya tumunog sakin, lalo na kpag gamit ko yung sony 501es cdp. kulang pa ako ng sub ulit pero so far contented ako sa ht din.
san po pwede mag-audtion ng mga ae? maganda din po pang music sir?
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 11, 2012 at 01:35 PM
baka ngayon na upgrade mo sir, please let me know, baka sakaling pasok sa budget ko yang scs mo. :) gusto ko rin sana mapakinggan yan kaso wag na lang, d kaya presyo eh, baka d ako makatulog pag nagustuhan ko. hahanakuh last year pa naka-reserve ito bro ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 11, 2012 at 01:41 PM
san po pwede mag-audtion ng mga ae? maganda din po pang music sir?definitely maganda yung AE, depende nalang sa taste mo :)
Post by: spycedvd on Feb 11, 2012 at 02:42 PM
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
Post by: james16 on Feb 11, 2012 at 07:45 PM
baka ngayon na upgrade mo sir, please let me know, baka sakaling pasok sa budget ko yang scs mo. :) gusto ko rin sana mapakinggan yan kaso wag na lang, d kaya presyo eh, baka d ako makatulog pag nagustuhan ko. hahaalam ko si avshop ang nagbebenta ng ae ngayon. para sakin maganda ae sa audio kasi simula ng nabili ko sya, dun lang ako tumigil tamaan ng SARS sa speakers
san po pwede mag-audtion ng mga ae? maganda din po pang music sir?
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 12, 2012 at 06:47 AM
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
sir may iba ka bang source na nakakabit through hdmi bukod sa media player i.e dvd or bluray? if yes, may problema din ba similar to your media player? baka kasi yung media player din ang problem, hindi kaya? ???
18k for hdmi board :o bili kna lang ng bago sir imho regarding sa brand, nasa yo na yan sir if you will stick to denon or try diff brand
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
Yan po ang madalas na problema ng AVR ngayon yang HDMI Board maski yung ONKYO ganun din daw sabi sa akin ng V.V. & Sons dito sa UAE check nyo po yung pinost ko regarding sa AVR-1909/789 ang mahal din ng HDMI board konti na lang halos bago na yung mabibili mo sa price ng HDMI board advice ko bili ka na lang ng bago kesa pa-repair mo pa..
Post by: spycedvd on Feb 12, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Polk Audio rti A7
Polk Audio csi A6
Polk Audio DSW Pro 500 subwoofer
Mede8er media player
Post by: Courage on Feb 12, 2012 at 07:34 PM
This is my current setup, feel free to suggest a replacement for my busted Denon 2310
Polk Audio rti A7
Polk Audio csi A6
Polk Audio DSW Pro 500 subwoofer
Mede8er media player
I suggest you go with higher end yamaha's. They have less problems vs other brands. Also been a yamaha user from entry, mid to almost high end.. None of them failed me..
Post by: -lee- on Feb 13, 2012 at 01:47 AM
alam ko si avshop ang nagbebenta ng ae ngayon. para sakin maganda ae sa audio kasi simula ng nabili ko sya, dun lang ako tumigil tamaan ng SARS sa speakers
galing ako avshop kahapon sir, ganda nga for music yung ae neo 1.. torn between polk rti a3 and the ae.. problem ko lang is onkyo 609 ginamit sa demo.. d kaya ako madisappoint alin man sa dalawa kung ipapares na sa denon?
Post by: staind01 on Feb 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM
galing ng MultiEqXT pero manipis sa midbass, can't find kung san ia-adjust. already tried the System and Audio Menus.
thanks!
Post by: Yunarce on Feb 14, 2012 at 07:29 AM
Post by: staind01 on Feb 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Guys question lng po! Bakit pag turn ON ko ng 1912 ko laging default mode nia is TV eh wala nmn nakakabit sa TV connection sa likod. Gusto ko sana sa SAT/CBL default nya pag ON. Pwede ba yun? Thanks!
yep, check system settings. mase-set mo yun dun. for how to do it, google Batpig's Denon guide. very helpful sya.
taas pala ng setting ng sub ko kaya manipis tunog. naka -12db sya after Audessey calibration. 1/4th na yung volume knob, -9.5db pa rin so will set it lower later if i feel like it. ok na tunog e, satisfied. Large ang fronts and center ko with 40hz crossover.
Post by: staind01 on Feb 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM
lookin for a media bridge for networking and AirPlay to work.
Post by: Yunarce on Feb 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM
yep, check system settings. mase-set mo yun dun. for how to do it, google Batpig's Denon guide. very helpful sya..
Salamat. Binasa ko yung kay Batpig dati pa pero hindi ko mahanap. Tignan ko nlng sa system settings mamaya pag uwi..
Post by: gaol on Feb 15, 2012 at 09:53 AM
hello mga experts
kinalabit ako ng upgradititis, im using 1910 now, kung upgrade ba ako ng 4311 noticeable ba? my setup now is tsi300/cs10/owm3. receiver ba upgrade ko or speakers muna? thanks
Not considering the timing of your possible purchase, the answer is yes, primarily for Audyssey MultEQ XT32. When I changed from 4310 (MultEQ XT) to 4311 (MultEQ XT32), the difference was audible.
As for waiting for the replacement to the 4311, in AVS Forums, speculation is that the announcement (not necessarily the rollout, which can be immediate to 1-2 months later--in the US) will be in Fall 2012 (Sept-Nov).
Post by: [joms] on Feb 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM
Not considering the timing of your possible purchase, the answer is yes, primarily for Audyssey MultEQ XT32. When I changed from 4310 (MultEQ XT) to 4311 (MultEQ XT32), the difference was audible.
As for waiting for the replacement to the 4311, in AVS Forums, speculation is that the announcement (not necessarily the rollout, which can be immediate to 1-2 months later--in the US) will be in Fall 2012 (Sept-Nov).
dang ganun katagal ba? kala ko nag a announce yung mga receiver companies around may-june. Hindi ba parang too late naman kung umabot pa ng november ang announcement for the year model?
akala ko mga may ang announcement tapos mga july-aug ang release
Post by: gaol on Feb 15, 2012 at 11:18 AM
dang ganun katagal ba? kala ko nag a announce yung mga receiver companies around may-june. Hindi ba parang too late naman kung umabot pa ng november ang announcement for the year model?
akala ko mga may ang announcement tapos mga july-aug ang release
Yes, May-June usually mag-announce Denon for the lower models, up to the 23xx or even the 33xx series. For the Denon high-end models, it's usually Sept.-Nov. The 4311 was announced and shipped around Sept-October 2010, while the other xx11 models were announced in April-June 2010 and shipped in July 2010.
Unless agahan nila this year coz they didn't have a 4312 rollout last year, pero the 4311 is holding its own even against the newer models of Onkyo (1009, 3009, 5009 series), Yamaha, Pioneer, etc. so baka hindi rin.....
Post by: [joms] on Feb 15, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 15, 2012 at 08:14 PM
oh man! this is a longgggg wait. :(ako nagiintay ng 4311 maging 20k ;D ;D
Post by: Lancito on Feb 16, 2012 at 03:48 PM
I would just like to mention that our denon 2310 receiver started to act up about 14 months after we bought it. It would intermittently lose video and audio when we're watching movies on the media player (thru HDMI). The problem started to get worse, as in, 5 minutes lang minsan, then wala na. TO get it back to work, I have to turn off/on denon & media player.
Problem doesn't happen when we watch dvds (thru component video) or play FM music.
I've tried moving the connection to the other HDMI ports, same problem.
Tried connecting the media player to the HDTV directly and it works perfectly.
I've brought it to the service center and they say I have to replace the HDMI board for a whopping 18K.
Accdg to the repair people, the hdmi board getting shorted is a weakness of denon. They said its caused by pulling hdmi cables out without turning off the unit or cutting electrical power to it. We never pulled out any cable out of the denon after it was initially set up (except only when it started having problems and I had to try out the other hdmi ports).
Any thoughts/advice on what I should do? Plunk in the amount? Get a replacement receiver? Maybe another brand na lang?
I also had this problem with my 2808. It turns out that the HDMI on the nmt and receiver were loose. Try plugging and unplugging first. Since you already brought it to the service center, try isolating the problem and check if the connection from nmt to receiver is loose. Try changing hdmi cables.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 17, 2012 at 08:30 AM
btw, can't get ARC (audio return channel) between the Panasonic 50X30 and 1912 to work even though tama ang settings and connections per Batpig's Guide. anyone of you able to make ARC work?
sir yung hdmi mo ba 1.4?
Post by: staind01 on Feb 17, 2012 at 09:23 AM
sir yung hdmi mo ba 1.4?
yan din suspetsa kong cause e. not sure kung 1.4 yung 2 hdmi ko sir e. pano ba malalaman? parang wala akong nakitang nakasulat sa cable e. have 1 bandrige hdmi cable and 1 from cdr king.
so napagana mo yung ARC sir? anong TV and AVR mo?
thanks!
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 17, 2012 at 09:36 AM
Dont forget to enable ARC sa HDMI settings ng AVR. Baka lang naka-default sa OFF.
Ive been using ARC since April 2011 - Panasonic V2 plasma and Onkyo 1008 combination.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 18, 2012 at 01:30 PM
yan din suspetsa kong cause e. not sure kung 1.4 yung 2 hdmi ko sir e. pano ba malalaman? parang wala akong nakitang nakasulat sa cable e. have 1 bandrige hdmi cable and 1 from cdr king.
so napagana mo yung ARC sir? anong TV and AVR mo?
thanks!
hindi supported ng Samsung LED ko yung ARC e, so hindi talaga gagana sa case ko ;) yung sa samsung led ng officemate ko naka indicate yung HDMI port na may ARC katulad ng sabi ni sir Clondalkin. hindi ko lang alam kung pano madistinguish kung 1.3 or 1.4 yung cable unless nakaindicate sa packaging nya.
Post by: staind01 on Feb 18, 2012 at 04:28 PM
yep, hdmi cable issue nga. only 1.4 and higher version can support ARC so still lookin for 1.
Post by: raptor on Feb 18, 2012 at 07:41 PM
TIA
Post by: staind01 on Feb 19, 2012 at 12:46 AM
ok thx!
yep, hdmi cable issue nga. only 1.4 and higher version can support ARC so still lookin for 1.
ARC now working!!! Very convenient, 1 cable for I/O between receiver & tv!! :) great idea & great technology.
Love the 1912. :)
Post by: staind01 on Feb 22, 2012 at 09:51 PM
Ask ko lang mga 1912 owners, can the 1912 play FLAC files stored on an external HDD attached to the USB port? Upto what size of HDD is supported?
Haven't tried using my HDD yet but have tried using a 16gb USB drive. It plays FLAC files well.
Tried using my iP4s, nipis ng tunog when EQ on the phone is off. Didn't like it. Will try to put lossless files in the phone then will try again one of these days.
Cool thing about the 1912, it has A/V pass through so I can play PS3 even if the receiver is off.
Also, when I put the tv to sleep or turn it off, it turns off the PS3 and the receiver. Conversely, switching the tv to hdmi2 (which has ARC) turns on the ps3.
Post by: bryan338 on Feb 26, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Not considering the timing of your possible purchase, the answer is yes, primarily for Audyssey MultEQ XT32. When I changed from 4310 (MultEQ XT) to 4311 (MultEQ XT32), the difference was audible.
As for waiting for the replacement to the 4311, in AVS Forums, speculation is that the announcement (not necessarily the rollout, which can be immediate to 1-2 months later--in the US) will be in Fall 2012 (Sept-Nov).
master gaol,
sure ba na malaking malaki na noticeable sa sound pag nag upgrade ako from 1910 to 4311? sencya sa kulit kasi may go signal k misis na pwede upgrade pero one time lang hehe, current setup ko kasi is tsi300/cs10/owm3/svspb12nsd. help me decide kung avr or speakers, may nacanvass kasi ako 4311 nasa $1330, may na audition din ako na speakers paradigm monitor 9, bnw 683, polk rtia5 and klipsch rf62, halos mag ka price range sila dito. thanks :)
Post by: gaol on Feb 27, 2012 at 08:34 AM
master gaol,
sure ba na malaking malaki na noticeable sa sound pag nag upgrade ako from 1910 to 4311? sencya sa kulit kasi may go signal k misis na pwede upgrade pero one time lang hehe, current setup ko kasi is tsi300/cs10/owm3/svspb12nsd. help me decide kung avr or speakers, may nacanvass kasi ako 4311 nasa $1330, may na audition din ako na speakers paradigm monitor 9, bnw 683, polk rtia5 and klipsch rf62, halos mag ka price range sila dito. thanks :)
Hi bryan,
SoundOfMind gave you sound advice regarding this at the AVS Forums. And he said it well. :)
To add to that, based on my experience, getting the 4311 will max out the capabilities of your entry level speakers to the point that you may begin to notice its limitations and start looking for better speakers (but you will still notice an improvement over the entry level 1911). So in a sense, you are not maximizing the potential of the 4311 since it can improve SQ even more with much better speakers. That's what happened in my case, after the AVR upgrades and the transfer to a dedicated room with acoustic treatment, it became obvious that the weaker link was my speakers.
It might be better to invest in better speakers right now as well as mid-level receivers such as the 2312, 3312, or Onkyo 709-809, for a more overall balanced SQ improvement. Or go all out on speakers which you will keep for more years than the AVR, which comes out with new models every year--then ipon mode for the AVR, until the right time comes to get one. Baka by that time XT32 will trickle down to the mid-level AVRs at a cheaper price.
Post by: staind01 on Feb 27, 2012 at 09:38 AM
pag nagmura na. :D
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 27, 2012 at 12:24 PM
there's a big sound difference in the upgrade to MultEQ XT, very audible sya pag ni-on then off. can't wait to try MultEQ XT32...
pag nagmura na. :D
Magkano dyan Brader yung Denon AVR 4311, AVR-1912 at AVR-1611? TIA!
Post by: staind01 on Feb 27, 2012 at 02:11 PM
Magkano dyan Brader yung Denon AVR 4311, AVR-1912 at AVR-1611? TIA!
P33.5K yung 1912. :(
Dhs2,200 lang dyan, tama ba sir?
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 27, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Post by: bryan338 on Feb 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Hi bryan,
SoundOfMind gave you sound advice regarding this at the AVS Forums. And he said it well. :)
To add to that, based on my experience, getting the 4311 will max out the capabilities of your entry level speakers to the point that you may begin to notice its limitations and start looking for better speakers (but you will still notice an improvement over the entry level 1911). So in a sense, you are not maximizing the potential of the 4311 since it can improve SQ even more with much better speakers. That's what happened in my case, after the AVR upgrades and the transfer to a dedicated room with acoustic treatment, it became obvious that the weaker link was my speakers.
It might be better to invest in better speakers right now as well as mid-level receivers such as the 2312, 3312, or Onkyo 709-809, for a more overall balanced SQ improvement. Or go all out on speakers which you will keep for more years than the AVR, which comes out with new models every year--then ipon mode for the AVR, until the right time comes to get one. Baka by that time XT32 will trickle down to the mid-level AVRs at a cheaper price.
hi master gaol,
thanks sa advice, nabasa ko na din yung advice ni soundofmind :) mukhang bagong speakers nalang muna
Post by: raider125jeigh on Feb 28, 2012 at 02:56 AM
Yes Brader 2,200 nga lang dito..tapos yung 1611 nag-sale sila dito 999 dirhams na lang.. :)bro sa dubai ba yan?
san ung shop dyan na lageng may sale for avr?
anung exact address and store..?
balak ko kasi magpabili sa bayaw ko salamat
Post by: AppleMan on Feb 28, 2012 at 12:20 PM
bro sa dubai ba yan?
san ung shop dyan na lageng may sale for avr?
anung exact address and store..?
balak ko kasi magpabili sa bayaw ko salamat
Yes Brader sa Dubai Yung V.V. & Sons ang may hawak ng Denon at Marantz bale sa Dubai Mall meron silang Showroom tapos sa Sharaf DG sa TIME Square sale ngayon yung Denon at Marantz pero di yung mga latest model yung mga last model bago nilabas yung new model gaya ng 1911 at 1611 sa denon sa marantz di ko matandaan yung model...TIA!
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 08, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Yes Brader sa Dubai Yung V.V. & Sons ang may hawak ng Denon at Marantz bale sa Dubai Mall meron silang Showroom tapos sa Sharaf DG sa TIME Square sale ngayon yung Denon at Marantz pero di yung mga latest model yung mga last model bago nilabas yung new model gaya ng 1911 at 1611 sa denon sa marantz di ko matandaan yung model...TIA!
how much kaya shipping saten?
would it be better to get a unit from UAE or from saudi?
next month want ko itry ung DENON hahaha... if budget permits
papabili ko lang sa bayaw ko sa UAE/dubai
or sa X gf ko sa saudi
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 08, 2012 at 06:20 PM
ARC now working!!! Very convenient, 1 cable for I/O between receiver & tv!! :) great idea & great technology.
Love the 1912. :)
bro can you enlighten me with ARC in tagalog hahaha
i have onkyo htib with ARC
i have hdmi 1.4 cables
im not sure if ARC is same with the passthrough sensya na noob
turn on the receiver while connected to PS3
switch the receiver to stand by and I can still play ps3 with out the receiver being use
ayon ba ung capability ng arc?
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 08, 2012 at 06:45 PM
bro can you enlighten me with ARC in tagalog hahaha
i have onkyo htib with ARC
i have hdmi 1.4 cables
im not sure if ARC is same with the passthrough sensya na noob
turn on the receiver while connected to PS3
switch the receiver to stand by and I can still play ps3 with out the receiver being use
ayon ba ung capability ng arc?
Audio Return Channel cya bro...
You can use the AVR to output the TV's audio ;)
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2012 at 07:01 PM
bro can you enlighten me with ARC in tagalog hahaha
i have onkyo htib with ARC
i have hdmi 1.4 cables
im not sure if ARC is same with the passthrough sensya na noob
turn on the receiver while connected to PS3
switch the receiver to stand by and I can still play ps3 with out the receiver being use
ayon ba ung capability ng arc?
What youre doing is the receiver's capability to passthrough. Meaning kahit naka standby ang receiver mag papassthru pa din signal papunta sa tv coming from source connected to the AVR.
ARC is different. ARC is what brader louie has said.. Without any change in cables, your TV sound will be outputted sa receiver. No need to connect the TV HDMI, Optical or RCA outs to IN's nang receiver. :)
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 08, 2012 at 07:50 PM
What youre doing is the receiver's capability to passthrough. Meaning kahit naka standby ang receiver mag papassthru pa din signal papunta sa tv coming from source connected to the AVR.
ARC is different. ARC is what brader louie has said.. Without any change in cables, your TV sound will be outputted sa receiver. No need to connect the TV HDMI, Optical or RCA outs to IN's nang receiver. :)
ung sounds na tv lalabas sa receiver?
sensya na papa courage ah noob e..
so what button should i select in receiver the receiver?
i can always select bd/dvd / vcr and games
Post by: Courage on Mar 08, 2012 at 08:20 PM
ung sounds na tv lalabas sa receiver?
sensya na papa courage ah noob e..
so what button should i select in receiver the receiver?
i can always select bd/dvd / vcr and games
Let me check my settings, though mine is Yamaha but it should be the same..
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 08, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Let me check my settings, though mine is Yamaha but it should be the same..
salamat
hindi ko lang sure kung
arc compatible ung samsung 40d550
Post by: staind01 on Mar 09, 2012 at 09:49 AM
ung sounds na tv lalabas sa receiver?
so what button should i select in receiver the receiver?
yes.
sa Denon, you press the "TV" button, i.e. input is TV.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 09, 2012 at 02:36 PM
yes.
sa Denon, you press the "TV" button, i.e. input is TV.
thanks i will try it later
did you put one end of hdmi 1.4 on your denon's HDMI output adn the other end to your TV(hdmi in)
Post by: staind01 on Mar 09, 2012 at 05:40 PM
thanks i will try it later
did you put one end of hdmi 1.4 on your denon's HDMI output adn the other end to your TV(hdmi in)
denon's HDMI Monitor Out with ARC
tv's HDMI IN with ARC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Mar 16, 2012 at 07:04 PM
is DENON 1611 good entry level receiver?
any personal reviews?
what speaker is good for denon?
Post by: defcon3 on Mar 20, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 20, 2012 at 04:42 AM
hi. does any pdvd member own denon 3808. kindly give feedback.thanks
You might want to check AVS Forum. They have a thread solely for it. Please see below:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=860539
Post by: defcon3 on Mar 20, 2012 at 06:13 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 20, 2012 at 06:21 AM
thanks sir...arrrgghhh....im being torn between 2 avr's....will just post a new thread. maraming salamat po ulet.
What's the other AVR? If you don't mind me asking... :)
Post by: defcon3 on Mar 20, 2012 at 06:25 AM
What's the other AVR? If you don't mind me asking... :)
made a new thread na sir.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 26, 2012 at 04:28 PM
Has anyone tried using the Virtual mode when listening to 2channel audio?
Ok naman cya, hindi masyadong tunog processed at naging wider ang soundstage compared to stereo mode ;D
I'll try to compare it with pure audio mode :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 26, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Hello fellow Denon users :)masubukan nga. TY bro louie :)
Has anyone tried using the Virtual mode when listening to 2channel audio?
Ok naman cya, hindi masyadong tunog processed at naging wider ang soundstage compared to stereo mode ;D
I'll try to compare it with pure audio mode :D
Post by: rgbautista on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 04, 2012 at 10:57 PM
Finally! Got my first AV Receiver: A Denon AVR-1612. Still setting up my home theater in our room.
how much was the damage bro?
Post by: rgbautista on Apr 05, 2012 at 05:11 AM
how much was the damage bro?
I was able to get it for 17K from my neighbor who bought it abroad last year. Used only once for testing.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 05, 2012 at 12:04 PM
I'm planing to get a dedicated cd player and will connect it to my Denon 4311 through RCA(analog inputs).
If I will select "pure audio" mode will there be analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversion/processing in the Denon 4311 or will the analog signal be untouched by the Denon 4311?
Or is it better to use the cd player's digital output and let the Denon 4311 handle the digital-to-analog conversion?
Thanks a lot!!! :)
Post by: Stagea on Apr 05, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Guys,
I'm planing to get a dedicated cd player and will connect it to my Denon 4311 through RCA(analog inputs).
If I will select "pure audio" mode will there be analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversion/processing in the Denon 4311 or will the analog signal be untouched by the Denon 4311?
Or is it better to use the cd player's digital output and let the Denon 4311 handle the digital-to-analog conversion?
Thanks a lot!!! :)
I think the 4311 can bypass conversion and digital processing in Pure Direct using the analogue inputs.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Apr 06, 2012 at 10:18 AM
I think the 4311 can bypass conversion and digital processing in Pure Direct using the analogue inputs.
So that means cdp's dac will do the conversion. typically naman mas maganda ang dac ng cdp compared to avr, right?
Post by: Cosmic79 on Apr 06, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Guys,
I'm planing to get a dedicated cd player and will connect it to my Denon 4311 through RCA(analog inputs).
If I will select "pure audio" mode will there be analog-to-digital and digital-to-analog conversion/processing in the Denon 4311 or will the analog signal be untouched by the Denon 4311?
Or is it better to use the cd player's digital output and let the Denon 4311 handle the digital-to-analog conversion?
Thanks a lot!!! :)
Hi Sir Louie. I think your Denon 4311 can handle the conversion to analogue. Sa pagka alam ko, high end av receivers have very good built-in DACs na. When the receiver is set to "Pure Audio" or "Pure Direct" mode in stereo, the sound quality is almost similar to that of an integrated amplifier. Your Denon's THD is 0.05% in stereo. Maganda na ang THD mo compared to integrated amps and Denon is also known for music.
Have a good weekend.
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2012 at 01:28 PM
So that means cdp's dac will do the conversion. typically naman mas maganda ang dac ng cdp compared to avr, right?
Yes, but that does not automatically mean that they will sound good together. Kailangan subukan muna.
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Hi Sir Louie. I think your Denon 4311 can handle the conversion to analogue. Sa pagka alam ko, high end av receivers have very good built-in DACs na. When the receiver is set to "Pure Audio" or "Pure Direct" mode in stereo, the sound quality is almost similar to that of an integrated amplifier. Your Denon's THD is 0.05% in stereo. Maganda na ang THD mo compared to integrated amps and Denon is also known for music.
Have a good weekend.
The built-in DAC for the AVR-4311CI is the AK4358. Though decent as a multi-channel DAC, it falls below the specs of what's typically considered an audio-grade product (at least what would be fitted in a product intended for HiFi). Marantz's entry level CD Player (CD5004) for example uses the CS4392 DAC, which supposedly has a wider DR (not that it matters with Redbook) and a 6dB lower noise floor.
The 0.05% THD spec doesn't say how good an amp is, as it's just Denon's threshold for their power rating. That being said, the measured bandwidth of most Denon AVRs is usually decent (wider than the audible band, but short of specs that's normally flaunted by dedicated audio gear), and the higher model ones can deliver good current when only 2 channels are driven. DF of their flagship model is almost comparable to an entry level SS integrated amplifier (measurements show that it's ~20% lower than Marantz' PM5004, for example), while channel separation and noise floor are normally quite a bit worse.
From a pure spec and electrical measurement standpoint, AVRs generally don't stand a chance against dedicated audio gear (at least SS ones). However, the counter argument is that these specs matter less than the actual system presentation (and I would normally agree), as the numbers delivered by today's gear is already plenty lofty (even at the AVR level). Most components nowadays have the capability to sound good, either with proper matching (for the processing averse) or through interventions (extensive processing capability is getting cheaper with every model refresh) as long as the design limits are not breached.
If you're wondering why I'm comparing with Marantz gear, it's because they're Denon's more audio-oriented sister company (aside from McIntosh).
Post by: [r0n1n] on Apr 06, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Yes, but that does not automatically mean that they will sound good together. Kailangan subukan muna.
Got it thanks! :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 11, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Quote
1 April 2012
Denon Japan
Denon Launches new Flagship AV amplifier in Asia-Pacific - the replacement for the 4810, 4311 and AVC 1 - The AVR - 5113 aka - "Inakamono" 100th year APE (Asian Pacific Edition)
Denon signals it's recovery from the hiatus in new models with this flagship model which replaces three models at once, and introduces key new features in a new model which is the long expect replacement for the older 5xxx, 48xx and also the 43xx series, which have been soldering on due to damages to it's Fukushima facility as a result of the recent earthquake / tsunami twin disasters to hit Japan.
Dubbed fondly the Inakamono by it's R & D, this model promises a return to audiophile roots, whilst embracing several new important features, which have the Asian and in particular the Australian and NZ market in mind, which has long been overlooked by the USA and Europe ones.
This model will come in a silver-champagne blend, but the first 1000 will be available in more radical colors like Ferrari Red, Sake Brown, and Imperial Yellow as part of the 100th anniversary of Denon.
Key features:
Interface improvements:
- RS 232 port for installer and THX standards
- a new totally re-designed remote, with alpha-numeric keyboard on one side and a touch screen on the other, in addition to the standard remote, which is radio frequency allowing operation from another room (ala Bose)
- Apple lossless compatibility as well as Airplay function as standard with a iTunes-esque on screen menu
Power:
- Full 11.2 channel compatibility with 180W per channel time 11, all channels driven simultaneously
- Radical new power section with digital amplifier modules - Digital Universal Mono-Blocks ® which allow for 2 ohm function, lower weight and less cooling required and a resultant reduction in weight
- ability to tri-amp and power 2 ohm power hungry speakers (engineers at Fukushima have tested the amplifier on Electrostatic speakers)
- a special battery mode for brown outs and also for better sound quality – the amp has a patented Denon Brownout Special(BS) Auxiliary power mode that allows functioning in the event of outages, but more importantly for the fanatical audiophile, the option of an external battery power option which decreases any distortion due to an onboard power supply
Audiophile:
- MM and MC phono input as standard
- Merino Wool shielded circuits to decrease electrical interference
Researchers at Denon have found that Wool has even higher shielding properties compared to metallic compounds, and with the new Digital power amp section running cooler, Denon has been able to incorporate the finest Australian Merino Wool into a special weave which will shield sensitive areas of the amplifier
- a replacement for the Denon Link is now in it’s first iteration.
The new Fullrange Optical Overscan Link © has been touted to have a tenth of the distortion of the Denon Link cables, and allows for clock sync and jitter to be reduced to a never heard of 0.00001 %.
- 1 inch thick aluminum alloy casing for the minimal interference
Using the same material used to make aeroplane wings, Denon has been able to make the entire lower chassis of the amplifier from a single aluminum monoblock – ala Macbook Pro laptops.
Video:
- on screen display in 3D
- new video chip developed in house which allows for the ability to convert existing video and audio into a 3-dimensional experience. The Pseudo Interactive Sight & Sound ® (PISS) Chip is a radical new technology that challenges the frontier of 3D enhancement.
Denon Owner program:
- as a special reward to patient Denon fans who have been waiting for the longest time for this, there will be a Customer Harmony Experience Active Program Offer (CHEAPO) which will allow for previous Denon owners to bid at a price that they consider worthy for this new amplifier.
Barring any new disasters, this new model should be out in shops by April 31st. Pre-orders can be placed with your nearest Audiophile dealers now.
Post by: Courage on Apr 11, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Got this news from AVSForums
Uyy brader Louie, mukang pag dumating yan mag uupgrade ka na naman he he he
Post by: fattyacid on Apr 11, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Apr 11, 2012 at 10:39 PM
AVR-991
AVR-3311CI
AVRA100
AVR-4311CI
http://usa.denon.com/us/Airplayus/index.html
Airplay Upgrade
Starting December 1, 2011, as the owner of a qualifying Denon receiver you are eligible for The Airplay Upgrade for no charge. Airplay enables your Denon receiver to receive and play music from your iTunes library over your home network. You can also use your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad to control your iTunes library as it plays remotely through your Denon receiver. A home network is required to get and use this feature upgrade.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 11, 2012 at 10:53 PM
For those that have the following models below, have you tried upgrading online for AirPlay?
AVR-991
AVR-3311CI
AVRA100
AVR-4311CI
http://usa.denon.com/us/Airplayus/index.html
Airplay Upgrade
Starting December 1, 2011, as the owner of a qualifying Denon receiver you are eligible for The Airplay Upgrade for no charge. Airplay enables your Denon receiver to receive and play music from your iTunes library over your home network. You can also use your iPhone, iPod touch or iPad to control your iTunes library as it plays remotely through your Denon receiver. A home network is required to get and use this feature upgrade.
Brader hindi ata kasama ang Asia sa mga pwedeng mag upgrade :(
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/SC20120412-000938.png)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Apr 11, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Uyy brader Louie, mukang pag dumating yan mag uupgrade ka na naman he he he
Naku brader malabo na yan. Solb na solb na ko sa 4311. Saka gustuhin ko man di na kaya ng bulsa. Hehehe ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Apr 11, 2012 at 11:10 PM
Brader hindi ata kasama ang Asia sa mga pwedeng mag upgrade :(
(http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/wetcute/SC20120412-000938.png)
Honga noh...I didn't see that. :-[ Oh well.... ;D
Post by: -lee- on Apr 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Post by: Stagea on Apr 25, 2012 at 12:14 PM
pano po mapalabas display sa tv using denon 1912 tapos htpc with ati 4650 vcard? may display naman pag sa bios hanggang sa logo ng windows pero pagdating po sa windows (nasa desktop na), nawawala na display.. installed current drivers and catalyst control center
Make sure that you're using a standard resolution.
Post by: -lee- on Apr 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Make sure that you're using a standard resolution.
sinubukan ko po gumamit ng secondary monitor, using the dvi slot.. then tried to detect displays, wala po syang makita na connected sa hdmi.. i think it has something to do with the ati card driver since may display naman pag nasa bios pa and dun sa logo ng windows, after that (pagkaload ng drivers, tapos nasa desktop na) bigla mawawala display..
tried to research, may problem talaga mga 4650 users when connected to denon 1912.. pero wala kong makitang solution :(
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html)
Post by: ZeroCool on May 09, 2012 at 07:34 PM
Post by: CMac on May 10, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Greetings to All!! I would like to ask where can I buy the cheapest DENON AVR-1612 in the Phippines? ???
if you're talking about the whole country then it may well be someone who's giving it away for free. jk
common referrals-try these guys first.
Tein
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,155974.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,155974.0.html)
AVshop
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,137023.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,137023.0.html)
got an extra 110v port? try this guy for cheap alternatives.
electrohaus
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,98784.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,98784.0.html)
just a tip, bud. do your homework and get to know as much as you can about the different receivers and their approx prices (you can use amazon as basis). so as soon as you see someone selling their receivers in the marketplace you can just jump on it. you don't have to stick to one brand and one model. as much as possible if your buying 2nd hand avr's, get the one with existing shop warranty - just my opinion.
Post by: ZeroCool on May 10, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Thanks for the links ZYZZ...
Post by: CMac on May 10, 2012 at 02:59 PM
kaya nga uso dito nag import using jac, relatives or member anya or toy. as always with amazon purchases, weigh the risk of not having warranty to the price difference if you buy it locally. kung mga 5k lang difference, dito na lang ako bibili. pero kung mga 15k or more, dun nako sa amazon.
Post by: raptor on May 15, 2012 at 01:55 AM
As I've noticed 25k to 30k is the price range for Denon AVR-1612 in the local market, On a side note, it is currently being price @ $219 to $250 State side :o
Thanks for the links ZYZZ...
i'm here in the US for the past 2 weeks, i saw a Denon 1912 at Best Buy priced at around PhP 20k only ... laki ng difference sa price
Post by: adonph on May 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Would appreciate advise and issues regarding this model
Compare sa onkyo 809, yamaha a1010
Post by: gaol on Jun 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Denon AVR-4311 is down to $1599: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
Post by: CMac on Jun 16, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
dami na tumatawag sa friendly neighborhood importers nila. great info. less than 30k is a very very sweet deal.
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jun 25, 2012 at 06:22 AM
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Denon AVR-4311 is down to $1599: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
thanks for the headsup nakakatempt tuloy mag upgrade hehehe ;D
Post by: ngek2x on Jun 25, 2012 at 08:49 AM
gusto ko sanang itry denon eh.
ok bang i-pare ang RTI A1 at sub dsw440
or wharfedale 10 series sa denon?
Thanks much ;D
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jun 25, 2012 at 01:30 PM
sir anong equivalent ng Onkyo 509?
gusto ko sanang itry denon eh.
ok bang i-pare ang RTI A1 at sub dsw440
or wharfedale 10 series sa denon?
Thanks much ;D
1611/1612 siguro. No comment sa speakers and sub, hindi ko pa na-try yan e. audition mo na lang sir ;D
Post by: ricworks on Jun 27, 2012 at 05:17 PM
1)recently launched Denon receiver (June 2012)
AVR-2313CI, msrp: $899.99 (bargain price for $699.95?
2)2011 model AVR2112CI, msrp $650 (currently @ $485)
3) Denon AVR3312CI jumps to $697.00 as of today (still the biggest bargain, from $1,099.99 MSRP)
DENON MODELS & MSRP> http://usa.denon.com/US/Product/Pages/ProductLanding.aspx?PCatId=AVSolutions(DenonNA)&catalog=DenonNA_US&CatId=2011IncommandReceivers(DenonNA)
Heads Up!
Denon AVR-3312 is now on sale at Amazon for $549.99 from its former price of $1099: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR3312CI-Integrated-Surround-Receiver/dp/B004Z50L6E/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-2&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Denon AVR-4311 is down to $1599: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4311CI-Channel-Multi-Room-Receiver/dp/B0042KVX2S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1339820134&sr=8-7&keywords=denon+avr-3312ci)
Cheers!
Post by: Tempter on Jun 27, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Post by: Zexadron on Aug 23, 2012 at 08:01 AM
http://www.crutchfield.com/
avgears/HT/SPKRS/AMPS/PREAMPS buyers guide
Post by: Weng! on Aug 27, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:11 AM
has anyone tried out playing a 3D bluray to a non-3D capable denon receiver then out to a 3D display? my bro confirmed that he was successful using a denon 2308 with his 3D bluray and plasma watching bluray 3D.
Ang pagkakaalam ko sir, dapat 3D-capable lahat, from source, amp, to tv. kasi from amp to tv dapat hdmi 1.4 para mag run yung 3D. Hindi kaya sir naka connect yung player diretso sa tv via hdmi 1.4 then out yung audio to amp via optical?
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:21 AM
Ang pagkakaalam ko sir, dapat 3D-capable lahat, from source, amp, to tv. kasi from amp to tv dapat hdmi 1.4 para mag run yung 3D. Hindi kaya sir naka connect yung player diretso sa tv via hdmi 1.4 then out yung audio to amp via optical?
Puwede din 1.3 na HDMI for the 3D tried this one with my setup and smooth ang play.
Post by: Weng! on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:22 AM
Ang pagkakaalam ko sir, dapat 3D-capable lahat, from source, amp, to tv. kasi from amp to tv dapat hdmi 1.4 para mag run yung 3D. Hindi kaya sir naka connect yung player diretso sa tv via hdmi 1.4 then out yung audio to amp via optical?
ito ang setup nya sir
samsung bluray 3d --> free hdmi ng samsung-->denon 2308-->standard hdmi---> samsung 6 series 3d plasma display
sa tingin ko baka ang signal output ng denon converted to 2D tapos ang plasma na nag convert to side-by-side 3d.
nung nanood kami, 3d naman talaga at lumalabas sa screen ang makikita mo, unlike sa converted 2d to 3d na walang lalabas sa screen kundi more depth lang ang image.
pina try ko ang direct connection to plasma baka mas totoo na ang 3d kesa ngayon
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 27, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Puwede din 1.3 na HDMI for the 3D tried this one with my setup and smooth ang play.
yes sir, but from what I've read you wont get full 1080p 3D via hdmi 1.3. I have to correct myself, hdmi 1.3 do pass 3d signals, but probably only SBS format ??? correct me if im wrong pls
Post by: rochie on Sep 05, 2012 at 09:26 AM
does anyone of you knows of a service center for Denon?
kung meron sana sa South area mas ok but if not oks lang kahit saan.
and pwede po pa post na din ng mga contact numbers nila thanks.
Post by: Tavus on Sep 05, 2012 at 10:04 AM
has anyone tried out playing a 3D bluray to a non-3D capable denon receiver then out to a 3D display? my bro confirmed that he was successful using a denon 2308 with his 3D bluray and plasma watching bluray 3D.
yes i read on some forums pwede daw. I know the harman kardon 255 can be "fooled" to pass 3d. ssa settings lang.
Post by: Tavus on Sep 05, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Hi Guys,edit: lotte world philippines distributes them try looking for there numbers
does anyone of you knows of a service center for Denon?
kung meron sana sa South area mas ok but if not oks lang kahit saan.
and pwede po pa post na din ng mga contact numbers nila thanks.
correct me if im wrong but i think architecture audio services denon. there at greenbelt.
Post by: rochie on Sep 05, 2012 at 11:08 AM
edit: lotte world philippines distributes them try looking for there numbers
correct me if im wrong but i think architecture audio services denon. there at greenbelt.
thanks, will drop by at greenbelt after office hours.
Post by: Tavus on Sep 05, 2012 at 12:48 PM
thanks, will drop by at greenbelt after office hours.try messaging them here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,3884.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,3884.0.html)
dont know if this stil works but it worth a try:
http://www.denon.com/pages/distributor-network-details.aspx?RegId=2 (http://www.denon.com/pages/distributor-network-details.aspx?RegId=2)
LOTTEWORLD AUDIO VIDEO SYSTEMS, INC
CET Building Mezzanine Floor,
No.4 Mindanao Avenue,
Barangay Bahay Toro, Project 8,
Quezon City, PHILIPPINES.
TEL: +63-2 929-5334 / 929-9114
Post by: lord_dracula on Sep 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 15, 2012 at 04:20 PM
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?in my experience, polk audio (OK), a-audio (a bit too warm), and svs s series (just right) :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
in my experience, polk audio (OK), a-audio (a bit too warm), and svs s series (just right) :)
Maganda din Goldenear :D
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 16, 2012 at 05:40 AM
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
I have tried the following:
Wharfedale's: Diamond 8 series - center, 8.3 floorstanders WH2 surrounds and US Audio 12' sub - character is very warm (better for music)
Infinity's Primus Series: Primus 360 floorstanders, Primus C25 center, Primus 150 surround and US Audio 12' sub - character is very bright (better for movies)
SVS S-Series: SCS-02's LCR, SBS-01 surrounds and SVS PB12NSD sub - character is perfect for both movie & music ;)
Post by: james16 on Sep 16, 2012 at 06:38 AM
What speaker brands work well with Denon AVRs?
ako kasi, love my own. I use Acoustic Energy Evo series. You can try Dali Speakers or the other speakers mentioned above.
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:31 AM
I have tried the following:martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tia
Wharfedale's: Diamond 8 series - center, 8.3 floorstanders WH2 surrounds and US Audio 12' sub - character is very warm (better for music)
Infinity's Primus Series: Primus 360 floorstanders, Primus C25 center, Primus 150 surround and US Audio 12' sub - character is very bright (better for movies)
SVS S-Series: SCS-02's LCR, SBS-01 surrounds and SVS PB12NSD sub - character is perfect for both movie & music ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2012 at 02:43 PM
martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tiapa epal lang bro markcrenz:
i would say infinity yung louder/efficient, but the quality im sure is with the SVS he's using.
i should know kasi kasama ako nung nalaglag panga nya noon nag audition kami nung SVS SCS01 ;D
nag bingi bingihan nalang ako para di makulam ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 17, 2012 at 09:24 PM
martin, which of the three delivers the best vocals? which is most efficient/generally louder? tia
For me, SVS brader. Hanep talaga ang tunog nya. Even sa vocal and dialogue brader, loud, crisp and clear. ;)
Post by: deo on Sep 19, 2012 at 09:24 AM
Post by: james16 on Sep 19, 2012 at 10:44 PM
Mga sir, sino nakagamit sa inyo ng internet radio function sa denon receivers nyo? :-\
hindi pa kasi i never connected my denon sa modem or router eh.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM
hindi pa kasi i never connected my denon sa modem or router eh.same here, akala ko kasi may kasama wifi yung 1912 ko :D :D (di kasi nagbabasa ng review maigi :P )
Post by: Courage on Sep 19, 2012 at 11:37 PM
same here, akala ko kasi may kasama wifi yung 1912 ko :D :D (di kasi nagbabasa ng review maigi :P )
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2012 at 11:47 PM
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...planning to install 2 ethernet cables for the vt30 tv and my receiver (after 1 year, ngayon ko ang i-try :D)
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
Post by: Tempter on Sep 20, 2012 at 12:22 AM
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
That's true. Very handy, kahit nasan ka sa bahay macocontrol mo avr mo via cellfone. ;)
Post by: sdsmds on Sep 20, 2012 at 01:59 PM
You're miss a lot of function if you don't connect your receiver sa network...Bro wired or wireless connection? dongle? thanks
Internet Radio
Use it as player for digital file
Remote it using your laptop or ipad and android tabs/phones
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 20, 2012 at 02:05 PM
Hirap kasi wired magnetwork pag malayo yung wifi router :(
Post by: Courage on Sep 20, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Meron bang USB wifi dongle for DEnon AVR like sa mga Onkyos?
Hirap kasi wired magnetwork pag malayo yung wifi router :(
Madali lang yan.. bili ka isa pang wireless router with ethernet port na capable mag bridge.. Tapos itabi mo sa receiver.. Problem solved he he he... Ganyan setup ko dati.. pero since nilipat yung phone line sa kwarto sa kwarto ko na din nilagay yung Router.. pero dati alang router dun.. so nag bridge na lang ako..
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 20, 2012 at 04:19 PM
Madali lang yan.. bili ka isa pang wireless router with ethernet port na capable mag bridge.. Tapos itabi mo sa receiver.. Problem solved he he he... Ganyan setup ko dati.. pero since nilipat yung phone line sa kwarto sa kwarto ko na din nilagay yung Router.. pero dati alang router dun.. so nag bridge na lang ako..
Nababadtrip na nga ako sa wifi bridge na yan brader. Di ko mapagana, hehehe
Post by: Courage on Sep 20, 2012 at 04:31 PM
Nababadtrip na nga ako sa wifi bridge na yan brader. Di ko mapagana, hehehe
Anong brand and model ang Main router mo at yung bridge device? Baka konting kalikot lang
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:32 PM
Anong brand and model ang Main router mo at yung bridge device? Baka konting kalikot lang
Yung main router is naka dd-wrt na linksys. Tapos yung may universal bridge mode is Edimax. Check ko exact model mamaya brader. Thanks O0
Post by: Courage on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:34 PM
Yung main router is naka dd-wrt na linksys. Tapos yung may universal bridge mode is Edimax. Check ko exact model mamaya brader. Thanks O0
Kung ayaw talaga... bili ka nang hot spot device talaga.. Pang hot spot lang... Kabit mo yang Denon sa network bro... Sayang ang features nyan... Ok din makinig sa Internet radio pag sawa ka na sa local stations...
May airplay din yan diba
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 20, 2012 at 05:41 PM
Kung ayaw talaga... bili ka nang hot spot device talaga.. Pang hot spot lang... Kabit mo yang Denon sa network bro... Sayang ang features nyan... Ok din makinig sa Internet radio pag sawa ka na sa local stations...
May airplay din yan diba
May airplay kaya lang walang upgrade for Asia :(
Dati nung nasa Sta. Rosa pa yung set up nagagamit ko yung mga streaming nya. Maganda nga talaga pag nakanetwork. Wireless flac player ;D
Post by: deo on Sep 21, 2012 at 07:40 PM
May airplay kaya lang walang upgrade for Asia :(
Dati nung nasa Sta. Rosa pa yung set up nagagamit ko yung mga streaming nya. Maganda nga talaga pag nakanetwork. Wireless flac player ;D
Astig nga sarap mag play ng flac sa iphone bia airplay..kaso interested aq sa internet radio..meron ba sa inyo may nka gawa na?
Post by: gaol on Sep 21, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Astig nga sarap mag play ng flac sa iphone bia airplay..kaso interested aq sa internet radio..meron ba sa inyo may nka gawa na?
I was able to test it briefly with a 4311 and 3312. Ok Naman, Some local fm radio stations are accessible also via Internet radio.
Post by: meat_eater on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:28 AM
Thanks.
Post by: Courage on Sep 24, 2012 at 05:16 PM
Ok ba pairing ng Denon sa PSB? or sa KEF?
Thanks.
Si sir Arn naka PSB and Denon 4311
Post by: gaol on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 26, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Yes, that's true. I have PSB Imagines and Denon 4311-Emotiva XPA5 in my 7.2 HT setup. And just recently, I set up a simpler 5.1 setup in the Multi-Purpose Room at the office with Denon 3312 and previous generation PSB Image speakers: B25 fronts, C60 center, B15 surrounds and Subseries 1 sub.
Big time talaga si brader Arn! ;)
Post by: gaol on Sep 26, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Big time talaga si brader Arn! ;)
Hindi naman brader! Natsambahan ko lang yung Denon 3312 sa Amazon at a killer price. Yung image c60, yung raffle prize in Rex last Xmas EB. Good deal din yun image b25 ni mark, so binuo ko na lang. Hehe
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 01, 2012 at 10:27 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC)
Post by: Tavus on Oct 01, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Consumer 4k is still a few years away and you can find a internet router for less that 1500, 9.2 is only for big rooms and most blu rays today are mixed in 7.1.
edit: read more about the new 4520 and they say the interface is much easier to use than the 4311. New is audyssey LFC which is like dolby volume but instead it tames the bass so it does not disturb your neighbors.
here's more info you can custom disable amps on the 4520, on the 4311 you an only turn off all amps.
InstaPreVue mode which will display small PIP previews of other hdmi devices connected to your receiver. You also get dts neoX
Post by: staind01 on Oct 03, 2012 at 06:26 PM
Madali lang yan.. bili ka isa pang wireless router with ethernet port na capable mag bridge.. Tapos itabi mo sa receiver.. Problem solved he he he...
D-OH!!! thanks for the info!!! will try this now. :)
Post by: staind01 on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:10 PM
D-OH!!! thanks for the info!!! will try this now. :)
works like a charm! 8) 8) 8) can't believe i've only listened to internet radio just now! which rock stations do you guys recommend? been listening to 99.5 KISS Rocks and 100hitz 90s Alternative.
now streaming through media server and controlling everything via Galaxy S3. will try AirPlay tonight.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:33 PM
works like a charm! 8) 8) 8) can't believe i've only listened to internet radio just now! which rock stations do you guys recommend? been listening to 99.5 KISS Rocks and 100hitz 90s Alternative.
now streaming through media server and controlling everything via Galaxy S3. will try AirPlay tonight.
Bro anong wifi repeater gamit mo? Thanks :)
Post by: gaol on Oct 04, 2012 at 02:37 PM
My opinion is 4520 isn't worth the difference to the 4311. If you want to save cash go for the 4311 model.
Consumer 4k is still a few years away and you can find a internet router for less that 1500, 9.2 is only for big rooms and most blu rays today are mixed in 7.1.
edit: read more about the new 4520 and they say the interface is much easier to use than the 4311. New is audyssey LFC which is like dolby volume but instead it tames the bass so it does not disturb your neighbors.
here's more info you can custom disable amps on the 4520, on the 4311 you an only turn off all amps.
InstaPreVue mode which will display small PIP previews of other hdmi devices connected to your receiver. You also get dts neoX
I agree. The upgrade from 4310 to 4311 was major: Audyssey XT32.
From 4311 to 4520, it seems there are many little improvements that are nice to have, but I can do without, for now.
Audyssey LFC is something I don't really need with a treated room, hardly anything can be heard from the bedroom beside the HT room, although the living room is another matter (the solid door is not enough to prevent the bass from leaking out). Also, if LFC lessens the "massage effect" of the SVS subs, I don't want it at all. ;D ;D ;D
InstaPrevu is cute but not really useful and from what I read works best for large screen setups, i.e. PJs. As for the router, well I already have a switch and airport express in the room.
Post by: staind01 on Oct 05, 2012 at 02:48 PM
Bro anong wifi repeater gamit mo? Thanks :)
sir,
CD-R King LP-8616C lang @ P990. :) have it for almost 3 months without any problems.
sobrang dami palang internet radio stations. been checking out the ones with High Quality Signals.
Post by: meat_eater on Oct 05, 2012 at 11:29 PM
Particularly yung 2113CI.... Just wanna know if it's good. Currently considering it over a 616 due to the numerous issues and bugs ng 616.
Thanks :)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 07, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Something to dream about... >:D
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC (http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-4520CI-Networking-Theater-Receiver/dp/B0092KZCKC)
Baka next month meron ka na nito dream on ka pa nalalaman. >:D >:D >:D
My opinion is 4520 isn't worth the difference to the 4311. If you want to save cash go for the 4311 model.
Consumer 4k is still a few years away and you can find a internet router for less that 1500, 9.2 is only for big rooms and most blu rays today are mixed in 7.1.
edit: read more about the new 4520 and they say the interface is much easier to use than the 4311. New is audyssey LFC which is like dolby volume but instead it tames the bass so it does not disturb your neighbors.
here's more info you can custom disable amps on the 4520, on the 4311 you an only turn off all amps.
InstaPreVue mode which will display small PIP previews of other hdmi devices connected to your receiver. You also get dts neoX
+1
Post by: OwwGss on Oct 07, 2012 at 10:18 PM
For me, SVS brader. Hanep talaga ang tunog nya. Even sa vocal and dialogue brader, loud, crisp and clear. ;)
brader how much ba ang svs set up na ganito ?
scs02
sbs01
pb12nsd
ty
Post by: stickfighter on Oct 08, 2012 at 04:27 AM
brader how much ba ang svs set up na ganito ?
scs02
sbs01
pb12nsd
ty
Brader, I am not sure kung my sbs01's pa. To be sure, please post your query at the link below so sir Mike can address your concern...at para hine rin tayo ma-OT. :)
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,126106.0.html
Post by: james16 on Oct 19, 2012 at 11:34 PM
i have a 1912 for almost about a year but haven't update or connected this to any internet connection, am i missing software updates or is it ok that i just leave it as is? i haven't had a chance to even listen to internet radio?
tia
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 20, 2012 at 12:11 AM
hi guys,bump! mine just turned 1 year old, never went online ... still awesome :D
i have a 1912 for almost about a year but haven't update or connected this to any internet connection, am i missing software updates or is it ok that i just leave it as is? i haven't had a chance to even listen to internet radio?
tia
Post by: -lee- on Oct 20, 2012 at 08:40 PM
hi guys,
i have a 1912 for almost about a year but haven't update or connected this to any internet connection, am i missing software updates or is it ok that i just leave it as is? i haven't had a chance to even listen to internet radio?
tia
got mine last feb sir, updated firmware once or twice ata pero d ko alam kung anong ipinagbago :D same lang naman features..
try connecting it to your network sir, internet radio is good.. i listen to it sometimes pag sawa na ko sa mga music files ko..
another thing i really like is i can play my music (PC music files) to the denon without transferring it to a flash drive or burning it to a cd, derecho na stream sa denon through the network.. "net/usb" dapat yung source ng denon
(http://imageshack.us/a/img717/1265/45938719.jpg)
airplay is also nice pero d ko ginagamit kase quality is not that good. and you can use your iOS devices to control the receiver. :)
Post by: james16 on Oct 20, 2012 at 11:39 PM
Post by: theblue on Nov 07, 2012 at 08:25 PM
I have denon 1912 and it is set to:
HDMI audio out - AMP
HDMI Control - ON
Ang problema kapag naka-on ang amp sa tv parin lumalabas ung sound. pag inoff ko ung control ok na sya sa speakers na lumalabas sound pero kailangan ko kc ng passthrough pag nakapatay ang amp.
ang source ko ay pc hdmi output.
tinry ko pati xbox ganun din.
naencounter nyo na ba ang ganito?
FYI nagkaproblem rin ako sa HDMI cables parang namimili sya ng cable from HDMI monitor out to TV. sa ngayon ang gamit ko ay ganito:
PC > HDMI 1 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
Xbox > HDMI 2 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
HDMI monitor out > LED TV (LG 32LE5500) using 1.4 HDMI cable
posible kayang kailangan ko magpalit ng lahat 1.4 cables para sa problem na to?
Thanks in advance sir.
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 12, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Post by: Tavus on Nov 12, 2012 at 08:31 PM
still looking for my first receiver,,,,anong model ng denon should i get? budget 30k to 50k for the receiver. will use it to power either wharfdales or polk. room is about 15ftx18ftx9ft. thanks...hey dollarman. still having trouble? isnt the pioneer lx 53 a good enough model? well if your look at denon the n Denon AVR-2112 or the 1912 would be my pics.
Post by: Dollarman on Nov 12, 2012 at 09:58 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:07 PM
well, i did follow ur advice and went auditioning last weekend. yep polk and wharfdales for me. i did get to listen to the yamaha and onkyo. so expanding my choices. ill take a look at this avr 2112
[/quotewell, i did follow ur advice and went auditioning last weekend. yep polk and wharfdales for me. i did get to listen to the yamaha and onkyo. so expanding my choices. ill take a look at this avr 2112
Why dont you try the 13' models.
2113 is available here in pinas na.
Post by: Tavus on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Nov 20, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Help mga sir.
I have denon 1912 and it is set to:
HDMI audio out - AMP
HDMI Control - ON
Ang problema kapag naka-on ang amp sa tv parin lumalabas ung sound. pag inoff ko ung control ok na sya sa speakers na lumalabas sound pero kailangan ko kc ng passthrough pag nakapatay ang amp.
ang source ko ay pc hdmi output.
tinry ko pati xbox ganun din.
naencounter nyo na ba ang ganito?
FYI nagkaproblem rin ako sa HDMI cables parang namimili sya ng cable from HDMI monitor out to TV. sa ngayon ang gamit ko ay ganito:
PC > HDMI 1 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
Xbox > HDMI 2 using Audiopro HDMI 1.3b
HDMI monitor out > LED TV (LG 32LE5500) using 1.4 HDMI cable
posible kayang kailangan ko magpalit ng lahat 1.4 cables para sa problem na to?
Thanks in advance sir.
Weird. E kung set mo to "TV" yung hdmi audio then back to "AMP", check mo kung anong mangyari. Ang mahirap nyan baka kapag naka set to "TV" yung hdmi audio out tapos sa speakers mo naman lumabas yung sound hehe baliktad kumbaga
Kung hindi pa din gumagana, try mo na i-reset to factory default yung 1912 mo
Post by: avshop on Dec 19, 2012 at 10:06 AM
DENON 1513 - 19.5K
DENON 1713 - 29.5K
DENON 2113 - 37.5K
DENON 3313 - 68K
DENON 4520 - 149,900
PM me for special pinoydvd discount. :)
Post by: Tavus on Dec 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Post by: avshop on Dec 20, 2012 at 12:05 AM
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?
None at the moment. :(
Post by: Courage on Dec 20, 2012 at 12:26 AM
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?
4311 kung meron pa...
Post by: barak0banak on Feb 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Though sa musics maganda sya and nagustuhan ko yung quality nya
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 25, 2013 at 04:20 PM
Guys newbie lang po ako,ask ko lang do you think it is good to pair Denon avr-2113 to boston speakers for 5.1 or 7.1 set up? I tried auditioning the same set up here in qatar kaso for music lang, how about for movies?
Though sa musics maganda sya and nagustuhan ko yung quality nya
May quote ang isang pdvd guru which I like and agree (I forgot who he is): "If its good for music then its good in HT, but not the other way around" :D Boston Acoustic ba? Sabi ng friend ko ok naman daw for music although Onkyo gamit nya so I suppose mas maganda sya kung Denon (correct me if Im wrong)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 25, 2013 at 04:29 PM
May quote ang isang pdvd guru which I like and agree (I forgot who he is): "If its good for music then its good in HT, but not the other way around" :D Boston Acoustic ba? Sabi ng friend ko ok naman daw for music although Onkyo gamit nya so I suppose mas maganda sya kung Denon (correct me if Im wrong)
I used to believe this also but I think this is not always true especially with speakers. Lalo na if ang type mong music are mellow, slow, soft... You tend to get warm sounding speakers which for me are kinda "bitin" and sounds too soft when it comes to HT application...
Preference pa din talaga... :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Feb 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM
I used to believe this also but I think this is not always true especially with speakers. Lalo na if ang type mong music are mellow, slow, soft... You tend to get warm sounding speakers which for me are kinda "bitin" and sounds too soft when it comes to HT application...
Preference pa din talaga... :)
Agree with the preference, kaya siguro marami ang may dedicated speakers for HT and for audio :) but for me, HT application is not much of critical listening compared to music so I think being warm, laid back, etc is not too much of concern when it comes to HT ;D yun naman e sa akin lang ulit ;)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 26, 2013 at 08:42 AM
Agree with the preference, kaya siguro marami ang may dedicated speakers for HT and for audio :) but for me, HT application is not much of critical listening compared to music so I think being warm, laid back, etc is not too much of concern when it comes to HT ;D yun naman e sa akin lang ulit ;)
I have heared a lot of speakers na masarap pakinggan kapag 2-channel audio, very relaxing, smooth and soft. Pero nung ginamit namin sa HT with the matching center eh parang kulang sa detalye especially during fast paced action sequences, parang bitin at may kulang, minsan pa nga parang ngongo yung dialogue ;D. Meron din namang speakers na maganda sa HT, clear and full of details pero pag ginamit mo sa 2-channel audio minsan ear piercing lalo na sa female vocals...
Gear matching at preference talaga when choosing gears... :)
Post by: Philander on Mar 22, 2013 at 02:45 PM
Or review of the XX13 Denon series receivers.
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 22, 2013 at 08:54 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 22, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Need your advice mga master which one should i choose Denon AVR-3311 or AVR-2312 ? TIA!3311 bro :)
btw magkano 3311 ngayon?
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 22, 2013 at 10:09 PM
3311 bro :)
btw magkano 3311 ngayon?
Dito po ako abroad brader sa peso ang benta nila ng AVR-3311 nasa 31K naka sale po kaso nag-iisa na lang daw yung 2312 nasa 2 daw po..
Post by: red_one on Mar 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 27, 2013 at 02:38 PM
Denon AVR-3311 230V 50hz pwede po kaya sa pinas ito di po ba magkaka-problema yung x-former ko kapag matagal na ginagamit? dahil sa AC natin 60hz....TIA!
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 27, 2013 at 02:47 PM
Tanong lang po..
Denon AVR-3311 230V 50hz pwede po kaya sa pinas ito di po ba magkaka-problema yung x-former ko kapag matagal na ginagamit? dahil sa AC natin 60hz....TIA!
Pwede yan... Wala naman motor sa loob ang AVR, hehehehe ;D
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 27, 2013 at 03:07 PM
Pwede yan... Wala naman motor sa loob ang AVR, hehehehe ;D
Ok maraming salamas este salamat ka Louie_18.... ;D ;D
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 27, 2013 at 03:35 PM
Sensya na Mr. moderator sa OT....
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 27, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Post by: AppleMan on Mar 27, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Wow!!! Sayo ba yan bro? Congrats!!!
Di po brader SALE sya kasi dito sa kinalalagyan ko....hehehehe
Yung kakakuha ko lang yung 3311....pang maliitan lang budget ko brader... ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 27, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Mga brader baka meron sa inyo gusto ng Denon AVC-A1HDA Php 235,000 ......Bagong bago...
Sensya na Mr. moderator sa OT....
di kaya mag transform yan .. ;D
parang isang character lang sa transformers movie itsura oh ..
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2678/denon3v.jpg)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Di po brader SALE sya kasi dito sa kinalalagyan ko....hehehehe
Yung kakakuha ko lang yung 3311....pang maliitan lang budget ko brader... ;D ;D
Wow naka-SALE pa pala yang P235K na price nya... Grabe... At that price Marantz separates na lang tayo, hehehe ;D
Post by: Chain on Mar 29, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 29, 2013 at 11:03 PM
Wow naka-SALE pa pala yang P235K na price nya... Grabe... At that price Marantz separates na lang tayo, hehehe ;Dyun ba hahakutin natin tomorrow bro? ;D
Post by: disturbed on Apr 05, 2013 at 02:26 PM
do you guys update the firmware of your receiver?
after almost a year of hiatus (stored the HT away since the display is dead)..I setup the HT again since I bought a new display last week..I ran the calibration as I normally would, most often than not I usually increase the center speaker level up to max of +8db...now I am at +10db and I am still not satisfied with the dialogue volume..my setup and speaker placement is still the same..
audyssey calibrated the center speaker and the fronts to 40Hz but I set the cross over at 100Hz of the center and I set the speaker to small.
I am always in Dynamic EQ.
When I get back home this weekend I will try lowering the vol of the sub by a notch, remembered I put the vol of the sub at the back a notch higher before calibrating, not sure if that has anything to do with the issue..
btw the distance between the center and the listening position is around 6 ft only or less
..also I always angle the center speaker to the ear level..
also been reading the thread from page 35 and some in the net..noticed that others after calibration, audyssey have the channel levels of the speakers on the negative side (e.g -5, -2)..mine is always at a minimum of +2db..after all these years didn't really compare my settings to others..maybe my speakers are hard to drive?hmmmnn
Post by: appamus on Apr 11, 2013 at 05:04 PM
Has anyone tried using its bi-amping capabilities? did it improve the sound quality?
Just want to hear the sheer sound of the amp without any external components like an external DAC or something else. Is it a good idea to bi-amp or not?
Thank you
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM
also been reading the thread from page 35 and some in the net..noticed that others after calibration, audyssey have the channel levels of the speakers on the negative side (e.g -5, -2)..mine is always at a minimum of +2db..after all these years didn't really compare my settings to others..maybe my speakers are hard to drive?hmmmnnhard to drive speakers or the room interaction e.g. too much absorbers
btw ano pala speaker mo?
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Has anyone tried using its bi-amping capabilities? did it improve the sound quality?tried it, improved highs. note that it could be placebo, but i never believed the idea of bi-amp and bi-wire. but tried it since i had extra wires (long story). :)
Thank you
Post by: disturbed on Apr 15, 2013 at 04:37 PM
hard to drive speakers or the room interaction e.g. too much absorbers
btw ano pala speaker mo?
the room is open..no acoustic treatment can be put since sala setup hehe..aurum cantus f series for fronts and center and polk owm for rears..
I read and read and read again the audyssey setup guide in avs forum..read the faq again and again..This time I used a mic stand instead of the usual tripod to check if it will indeed help in the overall sq and esp for the clarity and vol of the center channel..
and guess what..it really did help!I have cycled thru my usual movie list and yes the dialog are clear now with enough volume level..didn't even touch the center channel level now..I really thought using the mic stand won't matter since I use a tripod all the time..I bought a mic stand just for calibration..found none in HMR and bought bnew from a guy in sulit lol..
I did another round of calibration this time I tried to achieve 0db channel level for subwoofer on the main listening position before going thru all the calibration of the other positions, I also tried the other suggestions on the mic placements etc etc..
now after all these years, this is the most satisfying calibration I made!
Post by: AppleMan on Apr 15, 2013 at 04:49 PM
Bro paano mo ginawa yung calibration at paano mo pinosisyon yung mic at mic stand?.....TIA!
Post by: disturbed on Apr 15, 2013 at 05:15 PM
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d)3. Where should I position the mic for best results?
The first mic position should always be at the Main Listening Position (because it is used to determine the distances and levels of each speaker). The other positions should be either side at roughly 2 feet intervals and then in front and behind if possible. The order of the positions after the first position does not matter. It is very important to avoid extreme positions - so never put the mic up against the back wall or outside the angle spanned by the front Left and Right speakers. Taking measurements in these positions will cause MultEQ to make unnecessary adjustments. The mic should be at the same height as your main L&R speakers' tweeters, which in turn should ideally be at ear height. It is not generally advised to place the mic higher or lower than the physical location of the tweeters (but see the exception noted below). However, there are many setups where it is not possible for the tweeters to be at ear height; in these cases, place the mic at the spot where the speakers are aimed (it is usually advisable to aim the speakers towards the MLP by 'toeing-in the L&R speakers and angling the centre speak up or down - but do take the advice of your speaker manufacturer on toe-in as some designs perform best when not toed-in).
Exception: if your chair backs are quite high, you will need to raise the mic so that it can 'see' the rear surrounds or surrounds. Also, do not put the mic closer than about 12 to 15 inches to the backrest of the chair, even if this means it is not exactly where your head is when listening.
The graphic to the right shows Audyssey's recommended mic placements for a typical room and seating arrangement. Always start with mic position 1 at the Main Listening Position and then use the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc positions as shown, up to the maximum your version of Audyssey allows.
•Use only the microphone included with your AVR. If you cannot find it, contact the manufacturer for a replacement.
•Attach your microphone to a mic stand (preferably) or tripod.
•Take the measurements at ear height and with the mic facing the ceiling.
•Start the measurements from the primary listening location and spread out from there.
•Approximate distance from the first measurement position is 2 feet in any direction.
•Focus on the central listening area and avoid extreme positions such as the back wall or too far beyond the left and right speakers.
For more information about the graphic and mic placement in general, visit Audyssey's own guide to mic placement - linked below.
One more point about the Main Listening Position. If you are primarily interesting in getting the best result for just one seat (either because you are the only listener or you are the only listener who really cares about audio fidelity), then place the mic for position 1 at the centre of that seat. If, however, you wish to consider other seats, then place the mic in the centre of the listening area for position 1.
also before ear level ko tlga ni pplace ung mic.kaso sitting straight ako nun so mas mataas normally sa fronts ng tweeters ko..but now I used the height of the tweeters..I'll recalibrate once I get spike footers for fronts..
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 27, 2013 at 06:23 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 27, 2013 at 09:21 AM
Magkano kaya locally ang Denon 4520CI?
149,999 SRP ;)
Post by: Tsnad on May 27, 2013 at 09:31 AM
149,999 SRP ;)
:o
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 27, 2013 at 01:40 PM
149,999 SRP ;)
Puwede kayang kaya ni sister Louie yan.. Top of the Line denon amp. Sa US naman $2499 ata. ;) ;)
Post by: defcon3 on May 31, 2013 at 02:30 PM
less 100k dito sa disyerto :) :) :) :)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 03, 2013 at 06:10 AM
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j326/darwin0704/IMG_20130528_180914_zpse63a6f2c.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/darwin0704/media/IMG_20130528_180914_zpse63a6f2c.jpg.html)
less 100k dito sa disyerto :) :) :) :)
99k kasi less 100k eh. >:D >:D
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 04, 2013 at 08:14 PM
Nakita ko kasi sa pic ng Denin 4520 nakalagay made in japan. :D :D
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/denon-1.png)
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 04, 2013 at 10:34 PM
Post by: baby_wilmar on Jun 14, 2013 at 12:35 PM
the price jump for DENON 3313 to the 4520 is huge. so theres no model to fill in that gap?denon 1713 sale sa Listening room Megamall 14,995
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 14, 2013 at 11:31 PM
denon 1713 sale sa Listening room Megamall 14,995bro the question was a model in between DENON 3313 to the 4520, not under 3313 :)
Post by: baby_wilmar on Jun 20, 2013 at 08:33 AM
bro the question was a model in between DENON 3313 to the 4520, not under 3313 :)sorry bro nagkamali ako ng quote.
Post by: mdman on Jun 23, 2013 at 05:44 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 25, 2013 at 08:15 AM
Any denon 1713 users here. any feed back. Thinking of upgrading my old hk130. Matching it with my polk a3. Any thoughts? its on sale at 15k. Is this a good buy at 15k?sa technology panalo ka sa 1713, but coming from hk130 medyo bitin ang upgrade mo sa power.
best buy is above 19xx series :)
Post by: AppleMan on Jun 25, 2013 at 01:56 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 25, 2013 at 10:16 PM
^_Denon Fanboy pa din si Brader Jammy. :) :)yessir mahirap i-deny kasi :D
Post by: batulao on Jul 02, 2013 at 09:06 AM
Mura napo ba yun o mahal? Wala pa kasi ako ganong alam sa mga ht e.. sana po may makasagot.. salamat!
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 02, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Mga sir tanung lang po. Binebenta sakin ng kapatid ko yung denon 1312 niya at pure acoustic supernova 5 speaker galing DUBAI ng 15,000 lahat na. Last year niya lang nabili at bihira niyang magamit ksi pag nauwi lang siya ng pinas nagagamit..mura na yan bro :)
Mura napo ba yun o mahal? Wala pa kasi ako ganong alam sa mga ht e.. sana po may makasagot.. salamat!
Post by: batulao on Jul 02, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 06, 2013 at 10:55 PM
http://www.denonasia.com/ap/Product/Pages/ProductLanding.aspx?catId=20ea224d-25b8-4cb0-bff0-e17b72b04593&subId=b317010e-18ac-4dee-ab7a-5d374a9c8050
;D
Post by: Philander on Jul 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Any denon 1713 users here. any feed back. Thinking of upgrading my old hk130. Matching it with my polk a3. Any thoughts? its on sale at 15k. Is this a good buy at 15k?
Up! Anyone. I just sold my Onkyo 313 and considering the Denon 1713 (or even the 1513). How the sound?
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jul 31, 2013 at 08:33 PM
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 01, 2013 at 02:18 PM
Up! Anyone. I just sold my Onkyo 313 and considering the Denon 1713 (or even the 1513). How the sound?
I used to have Denon 3313 and sold it then bought onkyo 818. I think Denon would fit your needs as it is more musical compared to Onkyo. Onkyo has more slam while Denon is more accurate and controled bass. Mas malambing Denon compared to Onkyo
Post by: AppleMan on Aug 01, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Post by: gutierrez on Aug 02, 2013 at 02:28 AM
^_Pero bakit mo binenta po yung 3313 meron po bang di ok sa 3313 ? ??? ??? ???
I dont use my HT setup on audio just pure ht so I prefer an amp that is more aggressive like Onkyo
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 02, 2013 at 05:54 AM
I used to have Denon 3313 and sold it then bought onkyo 818. I think Denon would fit your needs as it is more musical compared to Onkyo. Onkyo has more slam while Denon is more accurate and controled bass. Mas malambing Denon compared to Onkyo
Bro Philander add ko lang since youre coming from marantz (iirc)
Atleast same sonic signature nila ng denon :)
Post by: iconlord on Aug 12, 2013 at 09:37 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:12 AM
good match po ba ang mga Denon receivers sa Wharfedale 10 series speakers? thanks
If you are into a "warm" sounding HT, then this is the way to go. But if you are looking for a "bright" sounding HT, its a no no.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:13 AM
good match po ba ang mga Denon receivers sa Wharfedale 10 series speakers? thanksnot recommended bro, at least try to audition it first.
If you already have the denon receiver, get a polk audio speaker.
If you already have the speakers, get an onkyo receiver.
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:16 AM
If you are into a "warm" sounding HT, then this is the way to go. But if you are looking for a "bright" sounding HT, its a no no.eto pala follow this advice from bro marts :)
Musta bro!! :)
Post by: iconlord on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:32 AM
Post by: iconlord on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:35 AM
If you are into a "warm" sounding HT, then this is the way to go. But if you are looking for a "bright" sounding HT, its a no no.
im into a warm sounding ht po sir, currently using a pio vsx 522 receiver for my wharfe 10series speakers. thanks
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2013 at 02:44 AM
im into a warm sounding ht po sir, currently using a pio vsx 522 receiver for my wharfe 10series speakers. thanksmake sure na hindi side grade gawin mo bro.
kuha ka ng 19xx pataas na model
Post by: iconlord on Aug 13, 2013 at 03:45 AM
make sure na hindi side grade gawin mo bro.
kuha ka ng 19xx pataas na model
ganyan din suggestion ni sis derek :)
mejo tight kasi budget ko, trip na trip ko pa naman mag 7.1 setup
Post by: Ron_21 on Aug 24, 2013 at 11:58 PM
may balak pa man din ako.
Post by: lakambini on Aug 25, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Where can I secure a new remote control for my avr-3805? And how much?
Thanks.
Post by: crazy_boy on Oct 10, 2013 at 09:51 PM
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
Post by: disturbed on Oct 15, 2013 at 01:56 PM
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
I demoed a Denon 1909 with thos speakers way back 2009 and I can definitely say they are a good match.
Post by: stickfighter on Oct 23, 2013 at 07:14 AM
eto pala follow this advice from bro marts :)
Musta bro!! :)
I am fine bro. Di na nakaka-online masyado.
im into a warm sounding ht po sir, currently using a pio vsx 522 receiver for my wharfe 10series speakers. thanks
You're welcome sir.
Post by: stickfighter on Oct 23, 2013 at 07:17 AM
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
I used to drive my Infinity Primus speakers with my Denon. They make a very good pair, if you like your HT bright! :)
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 12:14 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2013 at 12:58 AM
I am so excited! My denon x4000 will arrive next week. Bought it thru best buys employee purchase program at unbelievably low price. 8) Drooling with audysseys new feature like lfc and dual sub equalization. Looking forward to buying 2 ultra 13. Andami pang accommodations being offered to best buy employees. I would have chosen marantz 7008 if not of the new features of denon. I love best buy!
Sir nogie...
Ano bang new features nang X4000 na wala sa SR-7008?
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 03:34 AM
Sir nogie...
Ano bang new features nang X4000 na wala sa SR-7008?
Ibig kong sabihin bro kung wala yong features ng x4000 na parehas sa 7008 marantz sana kinuha ko.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 26, 2013 at 03:40 AM
Ibig kong sabihin bro kung wala yong features ng x4000 na parehas sa 7008 marantz sana kinuha ko.hehehe bro nogie di ka na marunong magtagalog ;D
baka pwede ka naman mag ship ng denon dito :D
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 08:58 AM
hehehe bro nogie di ka na marunong magtagalog ;D
baka pwede ka naman mag ship ng denon dito :D
Pasensya na bro at naka-duty ako nong sumagot ako. Bawal kasi me celphone sa workplace ninja moves pagsagot.
Yong purchase program ng BB isa lang pwede bilhin at hindi pwedeng ibenta sa loob ng 2 taon. Pag me violation ka pwede ikatanggal. Mas mahal ng $250 yong 7008 kaya x4000 na lang kinuha ko para me pambili pa sa ibang brands na kasama sa program. :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:03 AM
Ibig kong sabihin bro kung wala yong features ng x4000 na parehas sa 7008 marantz sana kinuha ko.
I see :)
Actually yan din before pinagpipilian ko sir Nogie, X4000 or SR7008 because both have basically the same features except for the 9channels of Sr7008 ^-^
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:27 AM
I see :)
Actually yan din before pinagpipilian ko sir Nogie, X4000 or SR7008 because both have basically the same features except for the 9channels of Sr7008 ^-^
Brader alam ko mas maganda 4520 mo, mas bago lang itong X4000 ;)
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:37 AM
I see :)
Actually yan din before pinagpipilian ko sir Nogie, X4000 or SR7008 because both have basically the same features except for the 9channels of Sr7008 ^-^
ang laki kasi ng price difference pero halos same specs.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Brader alam ko mas maganda 4520 mo, mas bago lang itong X4000 ;)
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
ang laki kasi ng price difference pero halos same specs.
Dito din sir Nogie, around 10K ang price difference nila...
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:49 AM
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
Dito din sir Nogie, around 10K ang price difference nila...
Yong $250 na difference nya dito isang magandang surround speakers na yon sa accommodation pricing namin. 2 araw din na hard labor ang bubunuin ko sa $250, sayang pera. :)
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:53 AM
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
Dito din sir Nogie, around 10K ang price difference nila...
I blind auditioned the 7008 and x4000 using klipsch f30 fs speakers in stereo mode. I ask a geek squad associate to help me in the audition. Nakatalikod ako at nakablindfold....Parehas lang ang tunog. :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Oct 26, 2013 at 09:58 AM
Nyak... Wala akong Denon 4520 brader ;D
Pangarap lang yan at 150K presyo nyan dito... :'(
Pio pala yung sa yo! Tsuri naman brader :) pero tingin ko kayang kaya mo naman yan bilhin ;)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM
I blind auditioned the 7008 and x4000 using klipsch f30 fs speakers in stereo mode. I ask a geek squad associate to help me in the audition. Nakatalikod ako at nakablindfold....Parehas lang ang tunog. :)
Hahaha! ;D
Thanks for the info sir Nogie.
Sarap talaga dyan place mo ngayon, readily available magagandang gears para maaudition agad ^-^
Pio pala yung sa yo! Tsuri naman brader :) pero tingin ko kayang kaya mo naman yan bilhin ;)
Naku naubos na sa subwoofer ang budget brader ;D
Post by: nogie on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:20 AM
Hahaha! ;D
Thanks for the info sir Nogie.
Sarap talaga dyan place mo ngayon, readily available magagandang gears para maaudition agad ^-^
Ako nag-u-unbox pag me bagong dating at libre din audition kasi duon ako naassign sa TV at Home Theaters. :)
Kaya lang me reklamo sa akin Manager ko. Mula daw dumating ako humina na raw sales nila sa # 1 selling nila na Bose Cinemate 1 at sobrang taas daw sales nila ng AVR at Speakers. Pero mas masaya naman manager kasi malaki ang margins sa speakers kesa sa overprice na Bose. :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 26, 2013 at 01:19 PM
Ako nag-u-unbox pag me bagong dating at libre din audition kasi duon ako naassign sa TV at Home Theaters. :)
Kaya lang me reklamo sa akin Manager ko. Mula daw dumating ako humina na raw sales nila sa # 1 selling nila na Bose Cinemate 1 at sobrang taas daw sales nila ng AVR at Speakers. Pero mas masaya naman manager kasi malaki ang margins sa speakers kesa sa overprice na Bose. :)
Hahaha! :-D
Malaki talaga tulong kapag knowledgeable ang Sales Person sa products he's selling.
Magbebenefit ang customers... Saka definitely namang mas maraming magandang cheaper alternative to Bose ^-^
Post by: kokok on Oct 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM
Mga sir, would like to get your opinions.I used to power the 363 with denon 1713. Ok naman ang tunog it's not bright. and it's not warm. nasa gitna lang.
Good match ba ang denon1513 with infinity primus 363 speakers?
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 09:50 AM
inquire ko lang, my friend auditioned last weekend onkyo sr313 and denon 1713 and ang comment niya eh masyadong mahina daw yung sounds using denon versus onkyo on a wharf 9.1 speaker set. target ko pa naman yung 1713, talaga bang normal lang yung ganung comparison between onkyo and denon or may possibility na mali lang setup?
thanks!
Post by: mykel18 on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:37 AM
Post by: mykel18 on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:44 AM
^i checked onkyo 313's specs and it was 100watts @ 6ohms while denon 1713 is 80watts @ 8ohms, so that difference REALLY matter with their sounds? kala ko pa naman mas angat na si 1713 kay 313.
Both may output roughly the same at 6ohms. If you do play louder, then choose a more powerful receiver than the 2.
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2013 at 11:10 AM
^first AVR ko kasi if ever kaya mga entry levels lang muna tinitingnan ko, taka lang ako bakit ganun naging scenario given na same sila halos ng output. maliit lang naman yung room namin kaya entry level muna
Another thing that might affect sound quality is the inherent sound character of different AVRs.
Denon AVRs tend to sound more musical and refined which you might perceive as "mahina"
Consider also Yamaha and Pioneer to power your Wharfs.
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:22 PM
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The Wharfedale has high sensitivity; they are not power hungry. The problem is with the receiver that cannot release full dynamics because of high impedance output.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:41 PM
heto reply nung seller regarding sa bakit mahina yung na-test na denon 1713 sa wharf 9.1
According to Wharfedale website, the 9.1 has a sensitivity of 86db @ 6-ohms...
Hmmm, I think it really needs power more than those entry level receivers you mentioned ^-^
High sensitivity speakers are those around 90db and above @ 8-ohms...
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:52 PM
^pero na-drive siya ni onkyo 313?
Na-drive, but to the speakers full potential ba?
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 05:02 PM
sensya na sir dami ko tanong, di ko lang talaga ma-gets na yung target ko sanang AVR eh "mahina" pala and/or cant drive the entry level speakers din?
heto pala yung speaker set, diamon 9 pala not 9.1 (iba ata yun)
(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/jthq6.xmcv3/v/vspfiles/photos/Wharfedale-Diamond-9-HCP-Pack-2T.jpg?1382654639)
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Diamond 9
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 15-75W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 86dB
FREQUENCY 60-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.2k
FREQUENCY FB 55Hz
DIMENSIONS 145x236x165
Diamond 9.SR
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 10-60W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 88dB
FREQUENCY 70-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.2k
FREQUENCY FB 70Hz
DIMENSIONS 185x236x117
Diamond 9.CC
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex
POWER 15-120W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 88dB
FREQUENCY 80-24k @ -6dB
CROSSOVER 2.8k
FREQUENCY FB 70kHz
DIMENSIONS 330x120x130(height on spike & plinth 128)
Diamond 9 SW100
Diameter 200mm
Power Handling 100 Watss Rms
Freq 35-85 Hz
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2013 at 05:06 PM
Have you bought the Whafedales already?
If you are set in getting the Denon AVR, I suggest listening to other easy to drive speakers like Polk Audio TSx series... ;)
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 29, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 29, 2013 at 08:57 PM
^not yet, plano ko bilhin eh polk speakers but the Tsi series only. i guess i have to audition myself, na-curious lang talaga ko sa impression ng friend ko kay denon
Polk Audio and Denon blends well... I tried Denon and RTi series before ang they're very good.
I think the TSi series is already replaced by the TSx series...
Post by: churchovdeath on Oct 30, 2013 at 08:08 AM
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:16 PM
The 'Official' 2013 Denon "E Series" / "X Series" AVR Model Owner's Thread & FAQ
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq)
What the heck is the "E Series" and "X Series"???
Denon has changed their model naming nomenclature, and the new "E Series" models have effectively replaced the lower level (non CI) models from the Denon consumer level receiver lineup. The E-Series features 2-year warranties, with all but the basic E-200 model including Audyssey MultEQ calibration and an ethernet port for network access.
The "X Series" replaced the higher level (CI) models in Denon's receiver lineup; all of these models feature a 3-year warranty, with more advanced Audyssey calibration (XT in the first three models, and XT32 in the X4000) and expanding featuresets for more flexible custom integration and multizone functionality.
E Series Models
The lower level "E Series" models feature basic Audyssey MultEQ calibration and offer 2-year warranties. The E200 should be skipped for any serious home theater setup, as it lacks MultEQ, networking, and has lower build quality.
AVR-1513 >> AVR-E200 ($249 msrp)
AVR-1613 >> AVR-E300 ($399 msrp)
AVR-1913 >> AVR-E400 ($599 msrp)
X-Series Models
The "X Series" lineup replaces what was formerly known as the "CI" model lineup. These are distinguished from the lower level "consumer" models with more advanced features making them more suited to custom install setups (the original meaning of the former "CI" designation). In addition to features like RS-232 serial control, more flexible multizone options, and 12v triggers, all of the X Series models utilize more advanced versions of Audyssey MultEQ calibration -- the "XT" version for the X1000, X2000, and X3000, and the most advanced XT32 calibration on the X4000. Additionally, all of the X Series models feature a 3-year manufacturer warranty instead of just 2 years on the E Series... and of course detachable power cords (woot!).
AVR-1713 >> AVR-X1000 ($449 msrp)
AVR-2113CI >> AVR-X2000 ($649 msrp)
AVR-2313CI >> AVR-X3000 ($899 msrp)
AVR-3313CI >> AVR-X4000 ($1,299 msrp)
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:22 PM
The X1000 is the "entry level" 5.1 model in the X Series INCommand lineup. It is essentially a "souped up" X Series version of the E300. While it is only a 5.1 channel receiver, it differs from the E Series models by offering the more advanced XT version of Audyssey MultEQ calibration, a 3rd year of warranty, and pre-outs for expanding to a second zone (with the addition of an external amp). While it doesn't have analog>digital video conversion or scaling, it should provide excellent sound quality and plenty of HDMI inputs. If you are interested in maximizing sound quality on a budget, and are only running a 5ch setup with a few HDMI sources, this is the receiver for you.
Key features and upgrades over the E300:
* 5 channels of amplification rated at 80 watts/ch into 8 ohms
* 3-year warranty instead of only 2 on the E Series
* One more rear HDMI input, for a total of 6 (5 rear / 1 front)
* Remote IR Input port for connecting an IR repeater
* Regular speaker binding posts instead of the bare-wire-only "easy connect" speaker posts on the E Series
* Audyssey MultEQ XT calibration instead of regular MultEQ
* Zone 2 functionality via RCA pre-outs
--- Requires the addition of an external amp to power Zone 2 speakers
--- Unlike the 1713 it replaces, Zone 2 pre-outs support variable volume control in addition to fixed volume output
--- All Zone Stereo feature will play any digital source in both zones simultaneously
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM
The X2000 is basically the X Series version of the E400 -- the lowest level model in the X Series with full 7ch capability. For most folks looking for the best value 7ch model, it will be a no-brainer to go with the X2000 over the E400 as long as the street price difference is less than 100 bucks. The jump from regular MultEQ to XT, plus the third year of warranty, are alone worth the price difference. You also get enhanced multizone flexibility and some additional "custom integration" options with RS-232 serial port and remote IR jacks.
Key upgrades over the X1000:
* 7 channels of amplification rated at 95 watts/ch into 8 ohms
* One more rear HDMI input, for a total of 7 (6 rear / 1 front)
* Two extra analog RCA audio inputs, including one dedicated "CD" input intended for an audio-only source
* Adds a component video input
* Removes composite video output, but not needed because....
* Video conversion of analog inputs to HDMI output
* Video scaling up to 4k resolution (and supports 4k passthrough)
* Web browser control officially supported, including SAVE/LOAD feature (note that this is only available with Internet Explorer!)
* Zone 2 functionality allows option of using Zone 2 pre-outs or internal amps via Amp Assign
--- Unlike the 2113CI it replaces, Zone 2 pre-outs support variable volume control in addition to fixed volume output
--- All Zone Stereo feature will play any digital source in both zones simultaneously
* RS-232 serial port and Remote IR In/Out jacks for custom integration flexibility
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:25 PM
The X3000 replaces the 2313CI as the first step-up model to the "mid level" Denon receivers. The X3000 and its big brother the X4000 are built on a physically larger chassis than the lower level models, with upgraded amp section and power supply. The X3000 is 2 inches deeper than the X2000, and about 3 lbs heavier. Additionally, it features greatly expanded legacy connectivity options, and starts incorporating some of the higher end features of the X4000 (and 4520CI) like independent matrix HDMI output for another zone, Audyssey DSX, direct DSD support for SACD, etc. For most folks looking to step up from the X2000, it is probably worth it to jump all the way to the X4000 for the superior Audyssey MultEQ XT32 calibration and other upgraded features.
Key upgrades over the X2000:
* 7 channels of amplification rated at 105 watts/ch into 8 ohms
* Beefier power supply and about 3 lbs heavier than the X2000
* Increased connectivity:
-- Adds a 2nd Zone2 HDMI output which can play an independent HDMI source in another zone
-- One extra component video input (2 total)
-- One each extra digital optical and coaxial input (2 optical / 2 coax total)
-- One extra composite (RCA analog) audio and video input (5 audio and 3 video total)
-- Dual subwoofer outputs (internal y-splitter, they output an identical signal)
-- 12v trigger output
* Direct DSD support for SACD playback over HDMI
* HDMI InstaPrevue PiP technology
* Adds Audyssey DSX and DTS Neo:X for surround expansion (note that the X2000 can only do 7 channels max!!)
* Audyssey PRO cabable
* Enhanced Multizone functionality:
-- Matrix HDMI Zone2 output
-- Any digital audio (2.0 PCM only, but can be HDMI or SPDIF input) will play to Zone 2 independently
-- Expanded settings flexibility for Zone 2 speakers, including bass/treble control and stereo/mono option
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:27 PM
The X4000 is the king of the new Denon lineup, and Denon has really hit a home run with this product and its "everything and the kitchen sink" list of features. Most importantly, for the first time, Denon has let the state-of-the-art Audyssey MultEQ XT32 calibration trickle down below the 4xxx level models, including the SubEQ HT feature for improved dual sub calibration. Additionally, the X4000 takes another step forward from its 33xx model heritage by allowing expansion to a 9 channel system with the addition of external amplification. Plus it adds a 3rd zone, another HDMI output, additional legacy connectivity.... basically, other than the ability to run a complete 11 channel DSX/Neo:X setup, it has it all!
Key upgrades over the X3000:
* 7 channels of amplification rated at 125 watts/ch into 8 ohms
* Beefier power supply and about 4.5 lbs heavier than the X3000
* Brushed aluminum faceplate with drop-down door to hide front panel controls
* Audyssey MultEQ XT32 with SubEQ HT
* Audyssey LFC (low frequency containment) technology
* Adds the ability to run up to 9 channels simultaneously with the addition of an external amp
* Increased connectivity:
-- Adds a 3rd HDMI output, parallel for main zone (e.g. for connecting both a projector and a regular TV in the same room)
-- Adds a component video output (2 inputs / 1 output); output can be reassigned to Zone 2
-- Adds a composite video output (1 video, 2 analog RCA audio)
-- Speaker binding posts for all 11 possible channels (can connect 11 speakers, but only run 7 at once with internal amps)
-- Full pre-amplifier outputs for all 11.2 channels (can run up to 9 at once with at least 2 channels external amp)
-- DenonLink HD input for connection with compatible Denon universal players
-- Dedicated PHONO input with pre-amp stage built in
-- Dual 12v trigger outputs
* 3 Zones instead of 2
-- 3rd zone is stereo audio only (either with external amp or internal amp assignment)
-- 2nd zone can be HDMI output and/or stereo audio output
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 04, 2013 at 03:43 PM
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^i dont know if full potential but enough for my friend to buy the onkyo+wharf combo since sabi niya nasa 50% palang volume eh ramdam na nya, while denon @ 70% eh mahina pa din.
d. Master Volume Adjustment: Unlike perhaps your older receiver that was really loud at say 1/4 of the maximum master volume scale, Denon AVRs use a logarithmic scale and will require the volume turned to roughly 2/3 of the maximum for average volume levels. Denon AVRs have two volume scales, the default being "absolute" (0-98) and "relative" ( -79.5db to +18db), although note that the terms “relative” and “absolute” are no longer used in the XX13 and E/X manuals.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq#user_B4 (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq#user_B4)
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^i checked onkyo 313's specs and it was 100watts @ 6ohms while denon 1713 is 80watts @ 8ohms, so that difference REALLY matter with their sounds? kala ko pa naman mas angat na si 1713 kay 313.
you're comparing different data points. here's the real score:
Onkyo SR-313: 100 W/ch (6ohms, 1 kHz, 1 Channel Driven, IEC)
Denon AVR-1713: 135 W/ch (6ohms, 1kHz, 1 Channel Driven, IEC)
always compare same parameters, i.e. 6ohms vs 6ohms, 8ohms vs 8ohms, 1ch vs 1ch, 2ch vs 2ch, 1kHz vs 1kHz, 20Hz-20kHz vs 20Hz-20kHz.
FYI. manufacturers usually use what gives the higher data for marketing purposes.
example, that 100 W/ch (6ohms, 1 kHz, 1 Channel Driven, IEC) will be roughly equivalent to 60-65W/ch (8ohms, 20Hz-20kHz, 2 Channels Driven).. but 100 W/ch sounds much better to consumers, doesn't it?
Post by: churchovdeath on Nov 04, 2013 at 05:08 PM
Post by: nogie on Nov 06, 2013 at 03:36 AM
I got it! Woohoooo!
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2013 at 03:58 AM
(http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp186/okel_okel/Denonx4000.jpg)ganda ng future receiver ko bro ;)
I got it! Woohoooo!
kailan mo i-ship yan sa pinas? ;D
Post by: nogie on Nov 06, 2013 at 04:05 AM
ganda ng future receiver ko bro ;)After 2 years bro. 2 years contract to with employer. :)
kailan mo i-ship yan sa pinas? ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2013 at 04:29 AM
After 2 years bro. 2 years contract to with employer. :)nice!!
oh ayan ha may pruweba ako na ako ang una sa pila ;D
Post by: AppleMan on Nov 06, 2013 at 04:41 PM
Post by: Lancito on Nov 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 13, 2013 at 11:18 AM
I didn't see any display of Denon receivers during the HIFI Show. Sino pa ba nagbebenta locally?
Ang alam ko sir kinikeri nila avshop(Marc), TEIN at Listening in Style ang Denon...
Post by: Lancito on Nov 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Ang alam ko sir kinikeri nila avshop(Marc), TEIN at Listening in Style ang Denon...
Thanks Louie!
Post by: box1025 on Nov 13, 2013 at 01:24 PM
^sir louie, meron ako denon avr1913 90W 8 Ohms at 125W 6 Ohms
Have you bought the Whafedales already?
If you are set in getting the Denon AVR, I suggest listening to other easy to drive speakers like Polk Audio TSx series... ;)
Di kaya underpower pag bumili ako ng Polk TRiA7 20-300W 8 ohms 89db
Post by: meat_eater on Nov 14, 2013 at 01:15 AM
sir louie, meron ako denon avr1913 90W 8 Ohms at 125W 6 Ohms
Di kaya underpower pag bumili ako ng Polk TRiA7 20-300W 8 ohms 89db
that depends on how loud you listen and if played full range or crossed at a certain frequency.
Post by: churchovdeath on Nov 14, 2013 at 09:47 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 10, 2013 at 10:02 PM
Read the manual, it says it could be due to one of the following:
1. The amp may have overheated - I dont think this is the case, coz I haven't used it when I turned it on. The amp is not even warm yet.
2. Shorted speaker wires - what I did is remove all speakers, even all cablings (HDMI, interconnect), still the same.
3. Unit amplifier has failed, contact Denon - this is what I suspect
Anyone has the same problem before? Although I don't mind bringing my receiver for repair, you guys think its still worth it? Probably if the cost is too expensive, might as well buy a new one. Problem is I have no idea on how much will the repair costs.
Thanks in advance.
Post by: Courage on Dec 11, 2013 at 11:01 PM
My trusty 1911 is faulty. Every time I turn on the receiver, it will boot normally but after 5-10 secs it will go to standby mode (red LED blinking on the main power button).
Read the manual, it says it could be due to one of the following:
1. The amp may have overheated - I dont think this is the case, coz I haven't used it when I turned it on. The amp is not even warm yet.
2. Shorted speaker wires - what I did is remove all speakers, even all cablings (HDMI, interconnect), still the same.
3. Unit amplifier has failed, contact Denon - this is what I suspect
Anyone has the same problem before? Although I don't mind bringing my receiver for repair, you guys think its still worth it? Probably if the cost is too expensive, might as well buy a new one. Problem is I have no idea on how much will the repair costs.
Thanks in advance.
Solution:
Upgrade :)
He he he... Joke lang sir...
Pa check mo muna.. kung mahal nga masyado, get a new one or a 2nd hand na mataas model..
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 12, 2013 at 07:00 AM
Solution:
Upgrade :)
He he he... Joke lang sir...
Pa check mo muna.. kung mahal nga masyado, get a new one or a 2nd hand na mataas model..
Yun na nga sir ang balak ko pero may nangyari. After ko tanggalin sya sa pwesto para i-pack at dalhin sa service center, ni-try ko ulit one last time. Himala she's alive! :) Sa ibang power outlet sya nakakabit so sabi ko baka yung outlet sa Tacima. One by one, binalik ko yung mga wires, hdmi, rca etc ok naman. Last test e ibalik sa Tacima mains conditioner at tinest ko ulit kahapon. For 4 hours, hindi sya nag protection mode. Nakapanood pa ako ulit ng Man of Steel hehehe
Ano kaya nangyari? I'm glad hindi ko pa kelangan magpalit kasi wala pang pambili hehe but come to think of it wala na akong dahilan para mag upgrade >:D
Post by: AppleMan on Dec 13, 2013 at 01:19 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Dec 13, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Di ba merong reset yang Denon did you try it already? check the manual meron ba nakalagay dun how to reset the AVR ?
Yup meron nga pero nag ok na ulit e so hindi ko na sinubukan. Siguro pag umulit ulit thanks
Post by: Philander on Jan 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM
Will post review later.
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 12, 2014 at 08:02 PM
Finally decided to get the super value Denon AVR 1713. I hope it wont disappoint like the Onkyo SR-313 did.if the onkyo disappointed you bro, im sure denon wont :)
Will post review later.
Mas musical yun denon and opposite sila ng onkyo ng characteristic. Also mas mataas na modelo denon 1713 vs 313 :)
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 14, 2014 at 09:04 AM
Post by: Philander on Jan 15, 2014 at 01:25 PM
if the onkyo disappointed you bro, im sure denon wont :)
Mas musical yun denon and opposite sila ng onkyo ng characteristic. Also mas mataas na modelo denon 1713 vs 313 :)
Well the Denon 1713 DID NOT disappoint. ALMOST Marantz-like sound quality.
Happy guy here.
Post by: Philander on Jan 15, 2014 at 01:26 PM
Congrats Philander! Ano ba ang kulang sa dating Onkyo mo sir?
Read my non-professional review here (based on actual experience):
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,52421.msg1878994.html#msg1878994
and here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,52421.msg1879591.html#msg1879591
Post by: [r0n1n] on Jan 16, 2014 at 07:25 AM
Read my non-professional review here (based on actual experience)
That's the risk with blind audition. I did it with my sub purchase, fortunately I was not disappointed. At least happy ka na sa Denon :)
Post by: -mhan- on Jan 16, 2014 at 08:20 AM
kung may budget - MARANTZ
kung di kaya budget ng MARANTZ sa DENON ka.
pero sakin lang ito boss, basta ako masaya ako sa DENON 1713 ko with DALI Zensor speakers
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 19, 2014 at 04:54 PM
Well the Denon 1713 DID NOT disappoint. ALMOST Marantz-like sound quality.ah nice :)
Happy guy here.
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 26, 2014 at 09:28 PM
Post by: Philander on Jan 27, 2014 at 10:06 AM
Any reviews of the Denon 1713?
I have it and I'll recommend it.
Its a (very) good entry (or mid) level receiver at its price point at this time.
I came from a Marantz receiver for about 10 years, tried Onkyo for a week. I like the warm and natural sound of Denon, very much like Marantz sonic sound characteristic.
So if you want a more musical receiver paired with a good speaker, then Denon 1713 is a good choice.
Onkyo might win in movie mode, then again you can always control sound settings and preferences to suit your need.
Pros of 1713:
Superb Sound
Six HDMI inputs, including one on the front
Network Capability
USB for Media files and supports Apple and Android Devices - device can serve as Remote control
Airplay
Con:
No component Video Input
No Analog to Digital Video Conversion
Remote Control No Learning Function
No AM Radio
No 4K support
Post by: tonedeaf on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:03 PM
Post by: meat_eater on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:08 PM
^Thanks! This is looking like a good option for me. May I know what speakers you are using with the Denon? I currently have an Onkyo 494 + Mission M73 combo (+ M7c1). Not too sure if the Mission will be compatible with Denon, might be an excuse to upgrade as well.
Denon user here (2113) and happy with PSB speakers :)
From what I've read, Denon mate well with Dali speakers (daw), I have yet to hear one for myself.
Some say, they mate well din with SVS speakers.
Post by: AppleMan on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:39 PM
Post by: javauser on Jan 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM
Post by: james16 on Jan 28, 2014 at 11:41 PM
Post by: Philander on Jan 29, 2014 at 12:47 AM
^Thanks! This is looking like a good option for me. May I know what speakers you are using with the Denon? I currently have an Onkyo 494 + Mission M73 combo (+ M7c1). Not too sure if the Mission will be compatible with Denon, might be an excuse to upgrade as well.
Im using Mordaunt Short 914 Floorstander.
Missions is a good pair with Denon.
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 08, 2014 at 11:08 PM
After fiddling around with it the past 3 hours, just a few initial observations: (bear in mind, this is from someone whose previous receiver is a 12 year old Onkyo :) )
1. No more need for optical cable and coax cable for my PS3 and DVD player. Yey!
2. I have no idea what this Audyssey thing is, but after trying it out during the initial set-up, I disabled it. Used my trusty SPL instead. After checking google, looks like I'll have to study it further.
Questions for current owners:
1. Did you guys connect your digibox (Skycable or Cablelink) to the receiver?
a. If I do this, I guess it means the sound from my TV will come out of my speakers?
b. If I turn on the TV and digibox but turn off the receiver, will the sound come from TV's speakers? or will there be no sound at all?
2. Is it normal that the volume level for the PS3 is higher than for a regular DVD player? In my case, it's just
40 if I play a regular DVD, but to get the same volume for a blu ray disc, I have to set the volume at 60.
3. Are the audio settings peculiar to each user? Or can you guys post your settings for audio? Parang initially, when I used Audyssey, all I could hear were sound effects and barely audible vocals. When I turned off Audyssey and did manual set up, it's a bit better but still not to my satisfaction.
Post by: box1025 on Feb 09, 2014 at 11:48 AM
Could not resist - got the Denon 1713 :)After setting up audyssey, if the center is a bit less. You can add more 2-4 "db" on the settings to increase it
After fiddling around with it the past 3 hours, just a few initial observations: (bear in mind, this is from someone whose previous receiver is a 12 year old Onkyo :) )
Hope this helps i have denon 1913
1. No more need for optical cable and coax cable for my PS3 and DVD player. Yey! The same with me mostly i use hdmi
2. I have no idea what this Audyssey thing is, but after trying it out during the initial set-up, I disabled it. Used my trusty SPL instead. After checking google, looks like I'll have to study it further. Initially i had the same doubt about audyssey and relied on my ears. But finally i set up audyssey in the middle of the night to minimize unwanted noise. Voila i became satisfied.
Questions for current owners:
1. Did you guys connect your digibox (Skycable or Cablelink) to the receiver? Don't have digibox can't answer this but denon has HDMI "pass through" and Denon AVR will "pass through" HDMI video and audio when the Denon is on Standby
a. If I do this, I guess it means the sound from my TV will come out of my speakers? For HDMI connection yes if the Denon is "ON"
b. If I turn on the TV and digibox but turn off the receiver, will the sound come from TV's speakers? or will there be no sound at all? For HDMI connection No if the denon is unplugged but if its on Standby "Yes"
2. Is it normal that the volume level for the PS3 is higher than for a regular DVD player? In my case, it's just
40 if I play a regular DVD, but to get the same volume for a blu ray disc, I have to set the volume at 60. Yes, it's differenct which player you are using
3. Are the audio settings peculiar to each user? Or can you guys post your settings for audio? Parang initially, when I used Audyssey, all I could hear were sound effects and barely audible vocals. When I turned off Audyssey and did manual set up, it's a bit better but still not to my satisfaction.
Hope it helps. I found a good read regarding Denon http://batpigworld.com/wp/
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 09, 2014 at 03:56 PM
All,
Re-tried Audyssey and it sounds much better :) I just feel that it lacks a bit more bass. This, of course, may be a function of the Denon v. Onkyo (my previous receiver) difference. However, when I looked at the speaker levels, the subwoofer was set to -12dB. Based on my readings, I should change the volume level of the sub to 50% or below. Could this be the reason for the lack of bass?
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 12, 2014 at 06:53 PM
Does anyone currently own a Denon + Dali or Denon + Boston Acoustics combination? I'd appreciate feedback on how good (or bad) they sound. Thanks!
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 13, 2014 at 12:31 AM
Additional question:IIRC raptor was fairly satisfied with Dali + Denon combo.
Does anyone currently own a Denon + Dali or Denon + Boston Acoustics combination? I'd appreciate feedback on how good (or bad) they sound. Thanks!
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:49 PM
I already did the 50% volume level, direct input and other recommended settings for the sub. I don't however, use a tripod or microphone stand. Hehe.
I read in one of the FAQs that the subwoofer level should ideally be in the +- 3.5dB range. Can I just set it to that?
Post by: Philander on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM
Post by: Courage on Feb 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM
After 3 tries with Audyssey, my subwoofer trim level is still at -12 dB (other speaker levels are in -5dB to -8dB range).
I already did the 50% volume level, direct input and other recommended settings for the sub. I don't however, use a tripod or microphone stand. Hehe.
I read in one of the FAQs that the subwoofer level should ideally be in the +- 3.5dB range. Can I just set it to that?
Yes you can.. If you find the sub is too low.. Just manually change it to level that you like.... Pati levels ng ibang speakers... Enjoy and congrats with your new amp...
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 13, 2014 at 11:18 PM
btw, found the answer to one of my questions in a 2011 post by streetsmart:
It depends on the sub. The important thing is that after the calibration, check the level of the sub. It should not hit -12 db or +12 db (those are the limits of the Denon receivers).
The usual problem is that the level is set at -12 db, which means that the volume knob is too high. Just lower it a bit and then re-run Audyssey.
Post by: javauser on Feb 14, 2014 at 07:56 AM
I did this but i still wanted more punch so i had to adjust manually.
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 14, 2014 at 08:03 AM
I have a denon x4000 which has audyssey multi32. During calibration, the first thing it does is ask you to adjust the subwoofer volume to 50 percent. It will then activate the sub and ask you to adjust the volume knob until it reaches a certain level.
I did this but i still wanted more punch so i had to adjust manually.
And Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 is geared towards better dual sub calibration...
You should try it, there's an ongoing sale of SVS PB12nsd >:D
Post by: tein on Feb 14, 2014 at 02:36 PM
I have a denon x4000 which has audyssey multi32. During calibration, the first thing it does is ask you to adjust the subwoofer volume to 50 percent. It will then activate the sub and ask you to adjust the volume knob until it reaches a certain level.
I did this but i still wanted more punch so i had to adjust manually.
Thats a good amp sir, but i prefer manual tuning dyan, try playing with it sir. :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 14, 2014 at 02:49 PM
And Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 is geared towards better dual sub calibration...
You should try it, there's an ongoing sale of SVS PB12nsd >:D
Ang ganda ng hirit he he he
Post by: javauser on Feb 14, 2014 at 08:34 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 16, 2014 at 06:57 PM
Post by: javauser on Feb 16, 2014 at 06:59 PM
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
KEFs sound good with Denon.
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 16, 2014 at 09:39 PM
Post by: javauser on Feb 17, 2014 at 12:22 AM
^thanks! would you know which PH store sells them? i'll need to check if they're within my budget. Baka di kaya.
http://designerscollection-ph.com/
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Feb 17, 2014 at 12:27 AM
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
Denon AVR + Boston Acoustic also is very well matched.
Post by: -mhan- on Feb 17, 2014 at 08:44 AM
Additional question:
Does anyone currently own a Denon + Dali or Denon + Boston Acoustics combination? I'd appreciate feedback on how good (or bad) they sound. Thanks!
I'm DENON(1713) + DALI (Zensor models) user, very good match talaga. be sure to get the Zensor 5 or Zensor 7 FS and Zensor 1 for Surround and the Zensor Vokal(center). di ka magsisisi. ^-^
check this video for your reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juWEbk1VI5o
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 17, 2014 at 09:14 AM
Aside from Denon + Dali and Denon + Mission, could you please post other speakers which sound good with Denon receivers? I'm trying to expand the list of speakers to audition. Thanks!
You should also consider Denon and Goldeanear combo...
For HT, this combo is hard to beat ;)
Marc Yao(avshop) is the local distro.
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 17, 2014 at 10:44 AM
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic; and
5. Goldenear.
Post by: disturbed on Feb 17, 2014 at 10:45 AM
Post by: czarsky on Feb 18, 2014 at 08:56 PM
Czarsky
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 22, 2014 at 08:28 PM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173418.60/topicseen.html#quickreply
my contribution, based on personal experience of equipment that i own/owned, not expert review -
Onkyo 603 + Dali Concept 6 (good pairing, but i find the sound too sharp)
Denon 1909 + Dali Concept 6 (much better than with Onkyo, especially after Audyssey setup)
Denon 1909 + A-Audio Genesis FS (best combination for me, the Genesis are much easier to listen to even at higher volumes, great mids and bass extension)
Hope it helps.
Post by: czarsky on Feb 22, 2014 at 08:59 PM
Post by: james16 on Feb 22, 2014 at 11:42 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 24, 2014 at 10:01 PM
Post by: tein on Feb 25, 2014 at 02:05 PM
Any Denon users with Polk Audio or Definitive Technology?
Naka setup na ako dame nadin Ms Meg, for the clients na mahilig sa bright sounding combinations, Denon / Polk sakto for them. Mga clients ko na sanay sa car audio prefers Denon / RTi Combination :)
Post by: alas6 on Feb 25, 2014 at 06:43 PM
Any Denon users with Polk Audio or Definitive Technology?
fyi i have the denon avr x2000 paired with def tech bp set and imho they sound fantastic ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 26, 2014 at 04:13 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Summarizing, for all who may be interested in the future, the following speakers sound good with Denons:
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic; and
5. Goldenear.
May I add #6 - SVS Speakers and Subs sounds superb on the Denon ;)
Post by: tein on Feb 26, 2014 at 12:56 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Feb 26, 2014 at 06:36 PM
Anyway, back on topic, and just to add to the list (for the sake of those as confused as me):
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic;
5. Goldenear;
6. A-Audio Genesis;
7. Acoustic Energy;
8. Definitive Technology;
9. SVS speakers.
Post by: tein on Feb 26, 2014 at 06:53 PM
^Paul, nahahalata na ba na confused na ako sa available choices? When I first set up my system in 2002, I think the only choices were Mission, Wharf and B&W. Hahaha!
Anyway, back on topic, and just to add to the list (for the sake of those as confused as me):
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic;
5. Goldenear;
6. A-Audio Genesis;
7. Acoustic Energy;
8. Definitive Technology;
9. SVS speakers.
Haha yup Ms.Meg confused kana. :)
Post by: Courage on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:02 PM
^Paul, nahahalata na ba na confused na ako sa available choices? When I first set up my system in 2002, I think the only choices were Mission, Wharf and B&W. Hahaha!
Anyway, back on topic, and just to add to the list (for the sake of those as confused as me):
1. Mission;
2. Dali;
3. KEF;
4.Boston Acoustic;
5. Goldenear;
6. A-Audio Genesis;
7. Acoustic Energy;
8. Definitive Technology;
9. SVS speakers.
Add ko
PSB Image or PSB Imagine speakers..
Post by: Lancito on Apr 02, 2014 at 11:41 AM
Post by: egzbuen on Apr 07, 2014 at 10:15 PM
Anyone who has experience with this model?
Post by: tein on Apr 09, 2014 at 02:36 PM
Would a Denon 1709 be still a good buy for 13k brand new? After reading reviews, plenty have mentioned that its weakest link is the inability of its hdmi connection to throw or pass audio.
Anyone who has experience with this model?
Baka you can still find the 1713, its on sale at 15,500 only, currently sold out na samin baka you can fin one pa sa iba.. para mas modelo konti sir
Post by: czarsky on Apr 09, 2014 at 06:34 PM
Czarsky
Post by: egzbuen on Apr 10, 2014 at 07:36 AM
Any suggestion guys?
Post by: tein on Apr 10, 2014 at 08:51 PM
Post by: bonjobby on May 12, 2014 at 07:07 PM
Post by: vladimireury on May 20, 2014 at 07:13 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on May 20, 2014 at 07:36 PM
Post by: mac_daddy on May 22, 2014 at 11:30 PM
Big Price drop in Denon x2000 in the US $399 na lang sa amazon http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2000-Integrated-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B00CALM2KS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1400584157&sr=1-1&keywords=denon+x2000. just bought mine today thru my friend in the US.. 2 months waiting mode...hohoho can't wait to listen my new toy....
Got the same thing at best buy yesterday, nag price match sila from $649-$399, papa box na lang and good to go na. :)
Post by: brogger on Aug 19, 2014 at 03:57 PM
Post by: tein on Aug 19, 2014 at 05:20 PM
Mga bossing, may issue b ang x2000? Cant seem to get the iphone connect to the receiver even original ung usb cable. Want to play spotify from iphone and out to avr apeakers. Pero ayaw mag connect. Previously nagawa ko na ito but after na relocate ko ung denon sa condo ayaw n marecognize ng denon ung iphone.
try to restore settings bro..
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 22, 2014 at 06:12 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2014/07/23/denon-dolby-atmos-receivers/
Post by: tein on Sep 25, 2014 at 04:52 PM
Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500
Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500
Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500
Denon X4100 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P75,000
Denon X5200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P128,000
Denon X4520 9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P149,990
Post by: tein on Oct 03, 2014 at 01:18 PM
♦ Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500
♦ Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500
♦ Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500
NOW AVAILABLE FOR ORDER!
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 03, 2014 at 02:08 PM
Post by: tein on Oct 03, 2014 at 03:08 PM
anong mas malakas ang amp/watts per channel denon x4100 or onkyo 807?
i think si X4100, yun lumang X4000 ang lakas eh bro hehe what more itong bago :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2014 at 06:56 AM
i think si X4100, yun lumang X4000 ang lakas eh bro hehe what more itong bago :)130w/ch yun onkyo 807 (i know di accurate)
sa x4100 ba 130w/ch ?
Post by: Stagea on Oct 04, 2014 at 08:28 AM
130w/ch yun onkyo 807 (i know di accurate)
sa x4100 ba 130w/ch ?
It's rated at 200W @ 6 ohms, 1 channel driven w/ 1kHz @ 1% THD.
I expect the 4100 to deliver closer to 60W/channel cleanly with all channels driven.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2014 at 11:13 AM
It's rated at 200W @ 6 ohms, 1 channel driven w/ 1kHz @ 1% THD.ty master vs. the onkyo 807 though, ano kaya ang rate nya? close to 60w/ch ng denon?
I expect the 4100 to deliver closer to 60W/channel cleanly with all channels driven.
Post by: Stagea on Oct 04, 2014 at 12:27 PM
ty master vs. the onkyo 807 though, ano kaya ang rate nya? close to 60w/ch ng denon?
Yup. Bench tests show around 70w/ch.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2014 at 01:25 PM
Yup. Bench tests show around 70w/ch.
Yup. Bench tests show around 70w/ch.ty master
might as well get a higher end denon or onkyo :)
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 04, 2014 at 01:40 PM
ty master
might as well get a higher end denon or onkyo :)
Bagay sa M-series mo bro yung Denon X5200 ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2014 at 05:24 PM
Bagay sa M-series mo bro yung Denon X5200 ;)pang louie18 lang yun lol
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 04, 2014 at 05:49 PM
ty master
might as well get a higher end denon or onkyo :)
pang louie18 lang yun lol
Eh ang higher model kasi after x4100 is x5200 ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2014 at 12:11 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 05, 2014 at 12:24 AM
oo nga ano. santissima purissima that price tag... sana may purisma discount hahaha
Aba kahit yung x7200 mabibili natin king may Purissima discount. 1million discount yun. Hehehe
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2014 at 04:35 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 05, 2014 at 04:11 PM
Post by: DViant on Oct 07, 2014 at 05:18 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 08, 2014 at 03:06 PM
What are the choice denon av receivers released in 2014? Take note, never said the best.
Check this out sir. I think this will ne available locally next month...
http://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater (http://usa.denon.com/us/product/hometheater)
Post by: tein on Oct 08, 2014 at 04:08 PM
** NEW MODELS COMING SOON!!
Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500
Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500
Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500
Denon X4100 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P75,000
Denon X5200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P128,000
Denon X4520 9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P149,990
Post by: paxs on Oct 28, 2014 at 06:19 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 28, 2014 at 08:23 PM
Here's the SRP ng new upcoming Denon Atmos Ready receivers
** NEW MODELS COMING SOON!!
Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500
Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500
Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500
Denon X4100 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P75,000
Denon X5200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P128,000
Denon X4520 9.2/13.2 Pre-Out - P149,990
When do you expect to get the Denon X5200? Please Pm me your best offer on a cash transaction.
Post by: nocs on Nov 01, 2014 at 09:57 AM
Post by: zonks on Nov 01, 2014 at 08:09 PM
Post by: Galactus on Nov 01, 2014 at 09:01 PM
Dadalhin daw nila sa Beyond Innovations, yung supplier ng Denon here in the country. They gave me a number and contact person. But when I tried following it up, the people there could only say that I should wait for 2 to 3 months before it could be fixed since they are awaiting for the necessary parts! They likewise couldn't provide a service unit. So I'm staying away from Denon from now on.
Bought a Yamaha RXV-677 instead from 5th Avenue. Too bad they don't have the titanium silver variant, hehe
Post by: zonks on Nov 01, 2014 at 09:13 PM
Post by: zonks on Nov 22, 2014 at 08:30 PM
Post by: lafargelime on Dec 07, 2014 at 03:33 AM
Post by: lafargelime on Dec 07, 2014 at 03:47 AM
Post by: zonks on Dec 07, 2014 at 05:55 AM
i tried to call LIS if they have service unit to be spared for me for this holiday season, kasi hindi nila alam kung kelan magagawa, sabi ni osang wala daw ganun sa kanila.
hanggang ngayun wala pa din, since oct 4...
Post by: zonks on Dec 10, 2014 at 08:36 AM
Post by: raptor on Jan 29, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Post by: tein on Mar 16, 2015 at 06:53 PM
► Receivers
♦Denon X510 5.2 - P19,500 (New)
♦Denon X1100 7.2 - P29,500 (New)
♦Denon X2100 7.2 - P40,500 (New)
♦Denon X4100 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos - P75,000 (New)
♦Denon X5200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos - P128,000 (New)
http://www.denonasia.com/ap/product/hometheater
0917-5160808
708-3122
Post by: Erwin-G7 on May 27, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Post by: tein on Jun 09, 2015 at 01:22 PM
Ok kaya combination ng Denon x4100 with Bose accoustimass 10 series V.?? For movies purposes mga brad. Gusto kasi ni misis bose :) Tnx
Yes perfect..
Post by: GIJoe on Jul 19, 2015 at 06:56 AM
Ano ano ang soeaker na puwedeng ipartner sa denon? :) :) :)
Post by: tein on Jul 23, 2015 at 04:13 PM
► Denon AVR X520 BT 5.2 : P19,500
► Denon AVR X1200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P29,500
► Denon AVR X2200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P40,500
► Denon AVR X4200 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P75,000
► Denon AVR X6200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P107,000
► Denon AVR X7200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P175,000
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/hometheater
Sound and Vision Home Entertainment
#77 N.Roxas St. Banawe Q.C.
708-3122 / 0917-5160808 / (Duo) 215-9148
Mon - Sat / 12:30pm - 7:00pm
[email protected]
Facebook Page:
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Instagram:
@soundandvision_ph
Post by: tein on Jul 23, 2015 at 04:14 PM
ok na ba yung Denon X5200W sa presyong 85,000? ;D ;D ;D
Ano ano ang soeaker na puwedeng ipartner sa denon? :) :) :)
B&W 600S2 Series Sound very nice sa X5200
Post by: Lancito on Aug 18, 2015 at 09:16 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 23, 2015 at 08:24 PM
★ NEW DENON RECEIVERS ★
► Denon AVR X520 BT 5.2 : P19,500
► Denon AVR X1200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P29,500
► Denon AVR X2200 7.2 Dolby Atmos / DTS-X : P40,500
► Denon AVR X4200 7.2/9.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P75,000
► Denon AVR X6200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P107,000
► Denon AVR X7200 9.2/11.2/13.2 Pre-Out Dolby Atmos / DTS-X / Auro3D : P175,000
http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/hometheater
Sound and Vision Home Entertainment
#77 N.Roxas St. Banawe Q.C.
708-3122 / 0917-5160808 / (Duo) 215-9148
Mon - Sat / 12:30pm - 7:00pm
[email protected]
Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/SoundandVisionPH
Instagram:
@soundandvision_ph
Post by: tein on Aug 24, 2015 at 01:36 PM
Would this mean that the prices for the X2100 will go down?
Hopefully yes but wala na ata stock ma'am..
Post by: bongchillog on Aug 25, 2015 at 08:34 PM
Please pm final price and warranty...
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 26, 2015 at 07:24 AM
Pls refrain from posting advertisement or direct selling. Lets use the forum to discuss the merits of your products. You can create your own thread under AV Shops forum and you can post all your promos there.
All out of topic will be deleted
mod Levi
Post by: messiahdgreat on Sep 29, 2015 at 07:09 AM
I need your expert advise regarding the problem I have with my Denon 2313CI. I always hear a static/crackling sound in my left surround speaker whenever I turn the AVR on. The annoying sound gets more audible as volume increases. At first, I thought its the speaker that causes the problem. But after doing several tests (i.e., speaker replacement check, avr replacement check - i have another spare AVR, terminal check, etc.), I have found out that the problem lies on the AVR itself. The culprit might be the left surround channel terminal.
Is this a confirmation that there is something wrong with the internal hardware/s? Can it be resolved by just cleaning the terminal connection inside? What causes the problem? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! All the best.
Post by: Lancito on Oct 08, 2015 at 09:44 PM
Post by: bongchillog on Oct 09, 2015 at 12:30 AM
Ang tagal ng Denon X6200!!! Grabe inip na inip nako. In premium silver please!
I think arrived na ang new denon models as of this day.
And can be viewed for auditon at one of denon dealer in megamall...
Post by: stockHT on Nov 09, 2015 at 06:57 PM
any big difference on the S series and X series??
Looking for 4k support and Atmos but not gearing towards the high end Denon receiver.
Post by: carlofm001 on Dec 06, 2015 at 11:59 AM
I recently bought a Denon x2200 to replace an old HK AVR160 that i just bought from a friend leaving for the US. His set up included a 7.2 JBL Venue speakers (old model as well).
After i set up the Denon 2200w, i noticed that my left floor standing speaker's weren't working the way they should. So i've decided to change them to newer floor standing speakers. Since I am very new to this, i tried asking around from stores and people who know more, and so far, based on suggestions, I started to initially consider 2 options - The Bowers and Wilkins 684 S2 and the Polk Audio RTI A7.
So i went to a store near me to audition. The store technician set up their Denon x2200 and let me hear the A7. Coming from my old and smaller JBLs i was amazed.. But I noticed I found the clarity somewhat "tiring" to my ears after a while. THEN he let me hear the B&W 683 S2 (they didn't have any 684's plus he said the 683's would be better). I was extremely impressed by the SQ of the B&W 683's! It sounded fuller and rounder than the A7's (to my ears at least).
My question is this - Since I have untrained (non expert) ears, even as I was blown away by the sound quality of the 683 S2's on my Denon, are my 2200w's the right (enough) AVRs for the 683's (am i missing some extra SQ on my 2200's) or should I downgrade to 684's?
Second question - should I be comparing the B&W 683 S2's to the Polk Audio RTI A9's (instead of the A7's) as they seem to be a closer match in terms of size and price range? Last question would be, will my Denon x2200w be enoughbto power the A9's (specs on manufacturers websites indicate my Denon would power the B&W 683's better (aplifier required is 25w-200w as per website) than the RTI A9's (amplifier required is 50w-300w as per website if i recall right)?
Your help and advise is greatly appreciated!
Post by: zram18 on Dec 06, 2015 at 01:35 PM
but to compare: B&W speakers requires more amp juice to realize its full potential as compared to Polk Audio which is easier to drive.
you also need to consider receiver-speaker matching.
Denon is warm + Polk Audio with bright sound signature will result into neutral sound.
Denon is warm + B&W warm signature will result into warmer sound.
choose which sounds better to you, dont delve too much on power wattage because most manufacturers tend to claim higher power wattage on their receivers due to stiff competition in the market.it likewise applies to speaker manufacturers.
my vote goes to Polk Audio rtiA9 because of the following:
1. B& W speakers are a bit more pricey but not better on quality;
2. B & W requires more power wattage on its speakers;
3. Polk Audio sounds better for me.
i like your dilemma, because either choice is ok.
PS: there is already a full blown discussion on the previous thread here entitled B&W 683 vs Polk RTIA9.
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 06, 2015 at 05:58 PM
Post by: carlofm001 on Dec 08, 2015 at 02:07 AM
Sir,first of all, there is no right or wrong answer here, its only UK vs US. B&W is UK, Polk Audio is US.Thank you for taking the time to answer my newbie questions, I really appreciate it.
but to compare: B&W speakers requires more amp juice to realize its full potential as compared to Polk Audio which is easier to drive.
you also need to consider receiver-speaker matching.
Denon is warm + Polk Audio with bright sound signature will result into neutral sound.
Denon is warm + B&W warm signature will result into warmer sound.
choose which sounds better to you, dont delve too much on power wattage because most manufacturers tend to claim higher power wattage on their receivers due to stiff competition in the market.it likewise applies to speaker manufacturers.
my vote goes to Polk Audio rtiA9 because of the following:
1. B& W speakers are a bit more pricey but not better on quality;
2. B & W requires more power wattage on its speakers;
3. Polk Audio sounds better for me.
i like your dilemma, because either choice is ok.
PS: there is already a full blown discussion on the previous thread here entitled B&W 683 vs Polk RTIA9.
I did see the old thread dating back to 2011 where they were comparing the A9's to the older 683 (not S2). I was just wondering if anything had changed in terms of insight given the updated model :-)
Since I did a side by side comparison with only the 683's and the A7's, I will arrange for a final audition between the A9 and the 683 this weekend :-)
Hopefully I get my early Christmas gift very soon :-)
Thanks again!
Post by: carlofm001 on Dec 08, 2015 at 02:09 AM
I find the bw 600 series a little laidback rather than warm, but that's just me; while Denon may sound warm to others but I would describe mine as smooth sounding.Hi Sir, do you mind if I ask what you mean by "laidback rather than warm"?
Comparing the A7 to the 683 S2's, I found the B&W's fuller and easier to my ears. But then again, I should have compared the A9's to the B&W's instead :-)
Post by: flashDB on Dec 12, 2015 at 02:00 PM
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 12, 2015 at 03:27 PM
Hi Sir, do you mind if I ask what you mean by "laidback rather than warm"?
character of its midrange
Post by: zram18 on Dec 12, 2015 at 08:19 PM
so you need to audition laidback speakers, warm speakers, neutral speakers and bright speakers.
Post by: carlofm001 on Dec 12, 2015 at 11:37 PM
character of its midrange
the only way to differentiate laidback from warm is by actual experience,better if speakers is on a side by side comparison. if you will hear only one speaker, mahirap i differentiate.
so you need to audition laidback speakers, warm speakers, neutral speakers and bright speakers.
Tonight I finally had the chance to take my Denon x2200 and audition both the Polk Audio RTI A9's and the B&W 683 S2's (in two separate stores since neither store had both present in store for direct side by side). My wife and I personally preferred the B&W's sound over the Polk A9's
I personally found the sound of the B&W to be fuller and better rounded when matched to my Denon x2200w. So I bought the B&W 683 S2's!
Thanks for your advise guys!
Post by: dodie on Dec 13, 2015 at 01:18 AM
Tonight I finally had the chance to take my Denon x2200 and audition both the Polk Audio RTI A9's and the B&W 683 S2's (in two separate stores since neither store had both present in store for direct side by side). My wife and I personally preferred the B&W's sound over the Polk A9's
I personally found the sound of the B&W to be fuller and better rounded when matched to my Denon x2200w. So I bought the B&W 683 S2's!
Thanks for your advise guys!
you already have a trained ear bossing...you have chosen the right one! 89db, so fairly easy to drive pa din just like the a9. it can also produce 110db of accoustic energy given 128watts of power. but on a hindsight, sensitivity is not the first priority in choosing a speaker, its the dynamic range. you have gotten a speaker with a very good dynamic range...
Post by: carlofm001 on Dec 14, 2015 at 12:46 AM
you already have a trained ear bossing...you have chosen the right one! 89db, so fairly easy to drive pa din just like the a9. it can also produce 110db of accoustic energy given 128watts of power. but on a hindsight, sensitivity is not the first priority in choosing a speaker, its the dynamic range. you have gotten a speaker with a very good dynamic range...
Thank you sir Dodie
I do have so much more to learn. I'm m so new to this, I don't know much about the "right" settings for the hz of the speakers and subs.. Trying real hard to experiment and play it by ear. But i there a "correct/right" setting on my Denon for the specific B&W speakers I bought?
Post by: Dash Yuuki on Dec 14, 2015 at 10:17 AM
Post by: zram18 on Dec 14, 2015 at 11:43 AM
as to the price naman, mas mura pa rin (though minimal) sa mga audio shops kung cash price mo bibilhin even with the added transpo.
yung mga kakilala ko presently situated abroad madalas bumili ng audio gears to be delivered to their house due to distance and lack of time. pero kung nasa Metro Manila ka naman and have the time, better puntahan mismo yung audio shop.
Post by: Dash Yuuki on Dec 14, 2015 at 01:12 PM
for me,im not comfortable buying online like lazada. before buying audio gears, i make sure to have thorough inspection of the unit first.
as to the price naman, mas mura pa rin (though minimal) sa mga audio shops kung cash price mo bibilhin even with the added transpo.
yung mga kakilala ko presently situated abroad madalas bumili ng audio gears to be delivered to their house due to distance and lack of time. pero kung nasa Metro Manila ka naman and have the time, better puntahan mismo yung audio shop.
Point taken sir, mas OK nga naman yung masusubukan muna yung unit before buying it, OK ba yung dalhin ko yung set ng speakers ko sa shop para matest dun sa unit na bibilhin ko?
Post by: zram18 on Dec 14, 2015 at 01:21 PM
no need to bring kung meron din sila tinda dun na ganong speakers.
Post by: Dash Yuuki on Dec 14, 2015 at 02:36 PM
Post by: flashDB on Dec 23, 2015 at 03:48 PM
http://www.demo-world.eu/2d-demo-trailers-hd/
my unit says can play dolby trueHD but the dolby indicator doesn't show up. the setting is "direct" all other formats were ok. im using minix neo x7, mx player app, pass through enabled.
perhaps someone here can help. tnx!
Post by: aligonzales on Dec 31, 2015 at 12:31 PM
guys question. i was playing around the decoder indicator of my x520bt by playing various test files from this site:
http://www.demo-world.eu/2d-demo-trailers-hd/
my unit says can play dolby trueHD but the dolby indicator doesn't show up. the setting is "direct" all other formats were ok. im using minix neo x7, mx player app, pass through enabled.
t
perhaps someone here can help. tnx!
Output from your source should be "bitstream out" in order for the receiver to do the decoding for you. If it says "direct", it's either playing stereo sound or multi-channel audio being decoded by the source instead of the receiver.
Post by: flashDB on Dec 31, 2015 at 01:53 PM
Post by: Erwin-G7 on Dec 31, 2015 at 03:04 PM
Post by: elco on Jan 02, 2016 at 04:10 AM
Post by: aligonzales on Jan 05, 2016 at 05:09 PM
Source is set to passthrough and avr set direct. Mx player and xbmc say trueHD yet cant see the avr's indicator that it's trueHD
Sir, sometimes there is an option to output "bitstream" data from your source aside from the "passthrough" option. Baka the source is doing the decoding instead of the receiver. I had a similar problem sa PS4 sir. Hinanap ko lang option to output in bitstream.
Post by: flashDB on Jan 05, 2016 at 05:17 PM
Post by: aligonzales on Jan 05, 2016 at 05:52 PM
im not sure if i figured it out - it displays dts or dolby pero doesn't indicate the type of dts/dolby :( the generic indicator lights up.
Sounds like a similar issue I had naman with my Sony BDP S5500 player. When I play BD's with Dolby True HD and DTS HD MA tracks its still being decoded as just DD and DTS respectively by my receiver. I just toggled the "BD Audio MIX Setting" to "OFF" (from audio settings of my BD player), now it plays all audio tracks properly.
[On]: Outputs the audio obtained by mixing the interactive and secondary audio to the primary audio.
[Off]: Outputs the primary audio only. Select this to output HD audio signals to an AV amplifier (receiver).
Post by: flashDB on Jan 05, 2016 at 05:56 PM
also when playing PCM 5.1 L/R channels lang... di nag lit up kung anu man indicator dapat...
will test another source pag may nahiraman ako... thanks...
Post by: Trig on Jan 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM
I already tried rewiring and resetting the device. Also tried diff speakers and i think even headphones.
some youtube vids say its usually cause by a broken capacitor.
Know any reputable repair shops other than the official denon service center?
Post by: elco on Jan 11, 2016 at 04:39 PM
hi, my old denon 2808 is shutting off and goes into protect mode (blinking power button) when I change source or play/pause. Once it starts playing well, it will work properly until I play the next video.Just curious, does this happen when there are no speakers connected?
I already tried rewiring and resetting the device. Also tried diff speakers and i think even headphones.
some youtube vids say its usually cause by a broken capacitor.
Know any reputable repair shops other than the official denon service center?
Post by: Trig on Jan 12, 2016 at 12:08 AM
Just curious, does this happen when there are no speakers connected?
I need to check again. If I remember it correctly, ive tested it using headphones only and still happen.
Post by: baliw on Jan 29, 2016 at 07:50 AM
I am planning to get the x520BT rin kase, then Wharfedale Diamond 220 (match kaya sila?)
Based sa experience mo would you recommend it?
Baka pwede ka naman mag bigay ng short review kahit, pro/cons :)
Saan ka pala bumili?
Post by: flashDB on Jan 29, 2016 at 07:58 AM
Speakers, i opted for Q Acoustics set.
Match? Not sure but tested it together and it was fine. I like voices so QA ako.
Tama sila at the end it is your preference and willing amount to spend. It may be good for u but not for others.
Post by: baliw on Jan 29, 2016 at 08:54 AM
Post by: tein on Jan 29, 2016 at 05:02 PM
@flashDB ano gamit mong speaker?
I am planning to get the x520BT rin kase, then Wharfedale Diamond 220 (match kaya sila?)
Based sa experience mo would you recommend it?
Baka pwede ka naman mag bigay ng short review kahit, pro/cons :)
Saan ka pala bumili?
Match kay 220. pero higher than 220 no na. Bitin na si 520..
Post by: Trig on Mar 15, 2016 at 11:11 AM
technically it still works and you can still watch a full movie but it goes into protect mode when you pause or play a new video
Post by: deo on Mar 29, 2016 at 12:17 AM
Post by: RastaSega on Jun 10, 2016 at 09:09 PM
this is compared to the other options using the same avr (Airplay or Bluetooth)
Post by: jestergold on Jun 27, 2016 at 12:59 PM
Thanks in advance.
Post by: mhacman on Aug 06, 2016 at 01:19 PM
thanks!
Post by: tein on Aug 06, 2016 at 01:48 PM
Post by: raptor on Aug 07, 2016 at 09:21 PM
If there are no service centers in the South or Makati area, could you please let me know which company services Denon AVR's and what location.
Thank you in advvance.
Post by: scoob on Aug 08, 2016 at 10:31 AM
Post by: [r0n1n] on Aug 11, 2016 at 03:55 PM
Hi PDVD, I have a denon 3312, gusto ko sana upgrade kahit 2nd hand basta may spotify. Di ko kabisado model line up ng mga bagong denon. Nakita ko un 3313 meron ng spotify. Ano pong model ang ma ssuggest nyo na hindi downgrade sa 33xx series? budget po siguro mga 10-15k on top of what I can get from my old denon 3312. Thanks! :)
Boi nakapag upgrade ka? Hindi ba sa source ang streaming ng spotify? Ako kasi ps3 pang stream ko. Nakakapangati na din mag upgrade, jurassic na kasi amp ko lol
Post by: tein on Aug 19, 2016 at 01:29 PM
Hi PDVD, I have a denon 3312, gusto ko sana upgrade kahit 2nd hand basta may spotify. Di ko kabisado model line up ng mga bagong denon. Nakita ko un 3313 meron ng spotify. Ano pong model ang ma ssuggest nyo na hindi downgrade sa 33xx series? budget po siguro mga 10-15k on top of what I can get from my old denon 3312. Thanks! :)
Just add Harman kardon Adapt Bluetooth Adaptor to your existing receiver then stream spotify from your phone to your receiver.
Post by: jrcrunch on Sep 10, 2016 at 01:23 AM
Post by: mhacman on Sep 13, 2016 at 01:55 PM
the listening room -- SM Megamall, look for Christine
sound and vision -- Banaue, contact pdvd member sir @tein
sights & sounds -- contact pdvd member sir @vic
Post by: tein on Sep 14, 2016 at 06:23 PM
where can i find good deals of denon receivers locally?
Which model do you need bro? PM ka lang..
Post by: RastaSega on Sep 16, 2016 at 01:21 AM
just sharing. this happened about 3 weeks ago.
so far it works great!
Post by: mhacman on Sep 16, 2016 at 07:06 PM
denon has finally released their firmware update to enable DTS-X :)
just sharing. this happened about 3 weeks ago.
so far it works great!
for which models, sir? even the low-end ones like AVR-1200W, AVR-1300W they became available?
and how does it works for contents with DTS 5.1 and DTS-HD MA 7.1?
TIA!
Post by: psi on Sep 16, 2016 at 08:49 PM
Match kay 220. pero higher than 220 no na. Bitin na si 520..
Boss in what waypo mabibiten?
Post by: paxs on Sep 20, 2016 at 10:21 PM
AVR-X520BT w/ HARMAN KARDON HKTS11B bundle (10inch 200 watts subs,5.1 ht 35hz -20khz, 8OHMS NOMINal)
Ok po ba to?
Thanks.
Post by: raptor on Sep 21, 2016 at 12:24 PM
Post by: zonks on Sep 21, 2016 at 05:35 PM
Post by: tein on Sep 21, 2016 at 06:52 PM
I brought my Denon 1909 to Beyond Innovations for servicing 2 weeks ago, I was told that they would provide me a quote in one week and I have to approve before they start working on it ... over a week passed and no feedback from them so I called them last Friday, and I was assured that the quote will be sent within the same day, but none was sent ... I've been trying to call them again since Monday, but all their contact numbers are either busy or not in service, and their website is down ... any news? di naman siguro sila nagsara
I'll help you, lumipat sila office sir.
Post by: tein on Sep 21, 2016 at 06:54 PM
Hi!
AVR-X520BT w/ HARMAN KARDON HKTS11B bundle (10inch 200 watts subs,5.1 ht 35hz -20khz, 8OHMS NOMINal)
Ok po ba to?
Thanks.
Thats a good set for small speakers, busog sa X520BT yan.
Post by: paxs on Sep 21, 2016 at 07:10 PM
Thats a good set for small speakers, busog sa X520BT yan.Salamat sir sa infos...pero napapaisip din po ako kung bibili na lang ako ng medyo ok na amp tapos ung speakers to follow,,payo din po ni sir defcon..kaso po ang budget ko sa speakers medyo maliit na lang..mga 15 or 20k po..for HT set up..at pang music na din..san po kaya ako makakabili ng maayos na speakers if ever..sa ganyang budget.
Post by: mhacman on Sep 22, 2016 at 01:26 PM
if you wish to improve your set-up for music listening 2.0 or 2.1, buy a separate mid-sized bookshelf fronts, like Polk RTi A3 or Def Tech SM 45..
Post by: paxs on Sep 22, 2016 at 01:44 PM
for a 5.1ch AVR for movie watching: okay na okay ang Denon X520BT + your selected HKTS11B...Salamat sir Mhacman..Atleast hindi po masasayang ang HKTS11B ko po.. dun po sa mga binanggit nyong speakers..no need na po ng subs nyan? sensya na sa nood question.
if you wish to improve your set-up for music listening 2.0 or 2.1, buy a separate mid-sized bookshelf fronts, like Polk RTi A3 or Def Tech SM 45..
Post by: mhacman on Sep 22, 2016 at 04:03 PM
better to audition them for your taste =))
Post by: paxs on Sep 22, 2016 at 05:40 PM
while your HKTS11B has it's own sub, you may use it together with the mentioned front bookshelves -- while listening to music. without sub, i believe they'll still sound great providing good mid-bass on music.Well noted Sir Mhacman! salamat po sa time sa pagreply. God bless!
better to audition them for your taste =))
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 02:57 AM
while your HKTS11B has it's own sub, you may use it together with the mentioned front bookshelves -- while listening to music. without sub, i believe they'll still sound great providing good mid-bass on music.Sir Mhacman narinig ko na po ung polk..ok na ok po pasok po sa budget..may mga tanong po ako first nagauditioned po ako ng mga speakers with amps.narinig ko po ung HK avr161 5.1 amp with this HKTS11B1 Daming explanation ng salesman amperes versus wattage,kesyo ang harman daw bumabase sa balanse ng ampheres etc..,nung narinig ko na po..boom! sarap na sarap po ako sa tunog,smooth ang sound kahit po mahina buong buo na hindi ko maintindihan.totoo po ba un or depende na lang sa set-up nila un? 2nd..inoffer naman po sakin with HKTS11B pa din with DENON AVR X1200W na..,kaya pa naman po ba ng HK tong denon na to? and may kamahalan po ba ung dolby atmos speaker enabled? noob question po ulit sensya na.. iniisip ko po din kase since investment ko na din kaya willing po akong magdagdag ng kunteng cash para sa masmalupit na amp ( HINDI KO NA PO ALAM GAGAWIN KO ). salamat po sa maipapayo nyo at ng ibang magbibigay ng payo
better to audition them for your taste =))
Post by: mhacman on Sep 23, 2016 at 03:19 PM
personally, i'll check my listening area and the manner how will I use my HT system. if you're okay not to set it TOO loud and you think the small satellites HKTS11B will satisfy you, then go for it. =))
as for the AVR, would you think you'll also move to playing phono's/LP's in the future? If yes, get an AVR with phono input. some mid-entry Onkyo AVRs have this.
But if not, I would also personally suggest Denon X1200W. if they have X1300W, then better. go future proof with ATMOS/DTS:X.
as for the front ATMOS speakers, use 1 pair from the HKTS11B for your ATMOS heights or top-middle. install them on your ceilings pointing down toward your listening spot. then buy another pair of mid-sized fronts, like how I suggested the Polk or the Def Tech. but note, there are some more decent mid-sized bookshelves to choose from. search/audition ka pa ng iba..
so there, you have the complete set 5.1.2 instantly. mas malaki pa fronts L/R speakers mo to satisfy your 2ch music listening.
PDVD masters, please help guide us for more inputs as well. =)
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 04:43 PM
hi, paxs.Good Day Sir mHac!
personally, i'll check my listening area and the manner how will I use my HT system. if you're okay not to set it TOO loud and you think the small satellites HKTS11B will satisfy you, then go for it. =))
as for the AVR, would you think you'll also move to playing phono's/LP's in the future? If yes, get an AVR with phono input. some mid-entry Onkyo AVRs have this.
But if not, I would also personally suggest Denon X1200W. if they have X1300W, then better. go future proof with ATMOS/DTS:X.
as for the front ATMOS speakers, use 1 pair from the HKTS11B for your ATMOS heights or top-middle. install them on your ceilings pointing down toward your listening spot. then buy another pair of mid-sized fronts, like how I suggested the Polk or the Def Tech. but note, there are some more decent mid-sized bookshelves to choose from. search/audition ka pa ng iba..
so there, you have the complete set 5.1.2 instantly. mas malaki pa fronts L/R speakers mo to satisfy your 2ch music listening.
PDVD masters, please help guide us for more inputs as well. =)
Well noted about the avr's..ill go for X1200W, And for the HKTS11B speaker sir..i think this is not atmos enabled, or maybe i just don't know,lahat po ng ng speakers eh pwedeng magamit sa atmos? And sir based on what you suggest about the 2 speakers to install on the ceiling..are these different set-ups?how can i know if the speakers on the ceiling is working for atmos? sorry noob question again sir, sensya na ang dami kong tanong..gusto ko po talagang matutunan to lahat.
Salamat po and god bless.
Post by: tein on Sep 23, 2016 at 05:59 PM
Post by: tein on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:01 PM
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:07 PM
Any speakers will work as Atmos speakers, make sure to position it properly. (In-Ceiling / Bookshelf speakers)
Good Day Sir Tein!
Salamat po sa input nyo..dami kong ng natututnan.. may tanong pa po ako..ung TV ko sa Pinas..wala pong ARC..Mapapagana ko pa po ba tong gears ko sa Tv ko? meron lang sya 1 HDMI port, 1 usb port,1 composite inputs saka 1 digital audio port. TOshiba lang po ng 40" ..40L2400EE model lang po kase.. to follow na lang po ang pagpapalit =).
Salamat po and god bless.
Post by: mhacman on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:13 PM
Any speakers will work as Atmos speakers, make sure to position it properly. (In-Ceiling / Bookshelf speakers)
+1
this is true. ATMOS-enabled speakers are those specially-designed speakers placed on top of floor standing speakers or shelved to bounce off the ceiling and to your listening position. but they costs more.
Need lang ng custom mounting if you're going to use bookshelf type or satellite for Atmos. Sa Japan binbutas nila yun bookshelf speakers. To mount it sa ceiling pointing to the seating position, here saatin I don't think we can risk drilling our speakers.
you could also use appropriate pinpoint brackets =)) both for bookshelves & satellites either wall-mounted or ceiling mounted. so if you choose to use a pair of your HKTS11B satellites for ATMOS heights =)
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:19 PM
+1Very much appreciated for the feed backs sir, now the problem is my TV=) as i can remember it doesn't support arc. ano pong dapat kong gawin.
this is true. ATMOS-enabled speakers are those specially-designed speakers placed on top of floor standing speakers or shelved to bounce off the ceiling and to your listening position. but they costs more.
you could also use appropriate pinpoint brackets =)) both for bookshelves & satellites either wall-mounted or ceiling mounted. so if you choose to use a pair of your HKTS11B satellites for ATMOS heights =)
Thanks in advance.
Post by: mbtorn on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:24 PM
Very much appreciated for the feed backs sir, now the problem is my TV=) as i can remember it doesn't support arc. ano pong dapat kong gawin.
Thanks in advance.
sell your TV and buy a new one with ARC
Post by: mhacman on Sep 23, 2016 at 06:29 PM
Good Day Sir Tein!
Salamat po sa input nyo..dami kong ng natututnan.. may tanong pa po ako..ung TV ko sa Pinas..wala pong ARC..Mapapagana ko pa po ba tong gears ko sa Tv ko? meron lang sya 1 HDMI port, 1 usb port,1 composite inputs saka 1 digital audio port. TOshiba lang po ng 40" ..40L2400EE model lang po kase.. to follow na lang po ang pagpapalit =).
Salamat po and god bless.
pwedeng-pwede po.
padaanin mo lahat ng HDMI output ng gears mo (set-up box, media player, game console, bluray/DVD player, etc.) sa AVR's HDMI input. then you'll need 1 HDMI cable to output AV signal from AVR to your TV's HDMI input.
I disable the ARC function with my TV. I believe ARC is to simplify digital cabling (eliminating additional audio cables to video monito/TV) and to enable volume control of your home theater using single remote: either the TV's or AVR's remote.
on your case when you watch a movie/TV and play game (w/o ARC), there will be no sound on TV. but that's the purpose of buying this HT system, di ba? to enjoy it all in pure surround audio =))
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 08:00 PM
sell your TV and buy a new one with ARC
Yes sir mbtorn to follow po ahehe salamat po sa response.
Post by: paxs on Sep 23, 2016 at 08:03 PM
pwedeng-pwede po.Ok po sir mhac! salamat po ng marami! god bless po.
padaanin mo lahat ng HDMI output ng gears mo (set-up box, media player, game console, bluray/DVD player, etc.) sa AVR's HDMI input. then you'll need 1 HDMI cable to output AV signal from AVR to your TV's HDMI input.
I disable the ARC function with my TV. I believe ARC is to simplify digital cabling (eliminating additional audio cables to video monito/TV) and to enable volume control of your home theater using single remote: either the TV's or AVR's remote.
on your case when you watch a movie/TV and play game (w/o ARC), there will be no sound on TV. but that's the purpose of buying this HT system, di ba? to enjoy it all in pure surround audio =))
Post by: mhacman on Oct 20, 2016 at 03:55 PM
updates as well:
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON without any hiccups vis-a-vis my 4yr old LG LM6200 model -- using a hi-speed HDMI v1.4a cable.
- been able to successfully upgrade firmware for my X1300W -- now DTS:X enabled
- but yet I need to find time to fully test it this weekend (or next long weekend)
- will use my new Sony Android TV via KODI -- this is to determine if SONY + KODI can pass-through/bitstream the DTS-HD MA (hoping the same will do with Dolby ATMOS) 8ch audio data
- per partial testing the other night with my LG TV's built-in player:
- for DTS-HD MA materials, it only decodes the core 6ch audio data -- so it defaults to Neural:X. but it can be noted with a ++ on SQ and clarity. my front heights are truly working with Neural:X.
- for DTS materials, completely decodes the core 6ch audio data. on the AVR, you can select DTS (Direct mode), DTS Surround and Neural:X
- I also tried AC3 materials and it completely decodes the core 6ch audio data
on the AVR, you can select Dolby Digital (Direct mode), Dolby Surround and Dolby + Neural:X
- this firmware upgrade enabling Neural:X seems has given my Denon + DefTech speakers a newer and better life!!! I'm even more excited to try out the DTS:X!!!
thanks!
Post by: thebat on Oct 30, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Also saan ba service center ng Denon sa pinas?
Post by: olats on Oct 31, 2016 at 11:52 AM
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Post by: thebat on Oct 31, 2016 at 04:27 PM
Post by: mhacman on Nov 02, 2016 at 04:54 PM
try the following stores:
the listening room -- SM Megamall, look for Christine
sound and vision -- Banaue, contact pdvd member sir @tein
sights & sounds -- contact pdvd member sir @vic
Post by: mhacman on Dec 14, 2016 at 02:52 PM
^ for this thread =))
updates as well:
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON without any hiccups vis-a-vis my 4yr old LG LM6200 model -- using a hi-speed HDMI v1.4a cable.
- been able to successfully upgrade firmware for my X1300W -- now DTS:X enabled
- this firmware upgrade enabling Neural:X seems has given my Denon + DefTech speakers a newer and better life!!! I'm even more excited to try out the DTS:X!!!
thanks!
^ up again for this thread =))
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON AVR without any hiccups vis-a-vis my Sony 4K Android TV -- using a HDMI v2.0 cable.
- i'm also fortunate to get hold of 3 DTS:X movies (.MKV) -- full movies, not just video test clips
-- Jason Bourne
-- London Has Fallen
-- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
now I am able to enjoy the full audio experience of DTS:X.
and with the Wetek Hub --> Denon AVR --> Sony Android TV, all my movies got a better life!
Post by: dex on Dec 26, 2016 at 09:37 AM
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 26, 2016 at 09:47 AM
^ up again for this thread =))wow congrats bro. :)
- ARC feature is fully working on my DENON AVR without any hiccups vis-a-vis my Sony 4K Android TV -- using a HDMI v2.0 cable.
- i'm also fortunate to get hold of 3 DTS:X movies (.MKV) -- full movies, not just video test clips
-- Jason Bourne
-- London Has Fallen
-- Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
now I am able to enjoy the full audio experience of DTS:X.
and with the Wetek Hub --> Denon AVR --> Sony Android TV, all my movies got a better life!
anong gamit mo 5.1.2 ba?
Post by: mhacman on Dec 26, 2016 at 07:57 PM
thanks!
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 26, 2016 at 09:51 PM
^ yes sir, 5.1.2 model. sulit for just this entry-level set-up. heights effects are awesome!ano speakers mo for .2 till now kasi 5.1 lang ako eh.. :-\ :P
thanks!
Post by: mhacman on Dec 27, 2016 at 10:07 AM
Post by: stockHT on Jan 21, 2017 at 06:01 PM
I am using Denon 1200.
Question ko ay: How to be able to display kung anong format ng audio (DTX, TrueHD, DTS etc etc) ang napepay or nadedecode ng mga movies coming from NMT sa front panel display?
Lagi na lang kasing "surround blah blah" ang nakalagay sa front dislay ko hindi ko tuloy alam kung nadedecode nya yung tunay na audio.
have been testing with 25gb mkv movies.
thanks!
Post by: mhacman on Jan 21, 2017 at 08:13 PM
alternatively, press the "Sound Mode"from the remote -- Movie (Green), Music (Red), Game (Blue). it toggles different available sound mode you wish to opt.
on both occasions above, make sure that you are NOT in "TV Audio" input mode. otherwise, it's just S/PDIF or HDMI ARC input from the TV, hence, you won't be able to display back the AVR's audio input/output information.
HTH!
Post by: stockHT on Jan 22, 2017 at 04:28 AM
hi, sir. press the "INFO" button from the remote.
alternatively, press the "Sound Mode"from the remote -- Movie (Green), Music (Red), Game (Blue). it toggles different available sound mode you wish to opt.
on both occasions above, make sure that you are NOT in "TV Audio" input mode. otherwise, it's just S/PDIF or HDMI ARC input from the TV, hence, you won't be able to display back the AVR's audio input/output information.
HTH!
Thanks sir will try that!
Regarding ARC, ARC works perfectly from my TV down to Receiver.
My connection is from the NMT to Denon to TV. And kahit anong file type na 6 to 8 channel ang iplay ko same ang nakalagay sa front display.
Will try out later and will let you know
Post by: mhacman on Jan 23, 2017 at 06:30 PM
since this AVR already employs Dolby Surround for 8ch upmix, it's defaulted that way, saying, Dolby Surround. Dolby Surround (for 7.1ch AVR's) is the new replacement of Dolby Pro-Logic IIz (for 5.1ch AVR's). but as mentioned, you can change/opt for other Sound Modes.
as for my X1300W, if I play movies with:
- DTS, DTS-HD MA, it displays DTS or DTS HD MSTR, respectively
-- this can also be changed to Neural:X
- AAC Stereo, it displays Stereo
- AAC MultiChannel 5.1 - it displays Multi-In
- Dolby Digital -- it defaults to Dolby Surround but I can change it to Dolby Digital
- Dolby TrueHD, it displays Dolby TrueHD
- ATMOS, it displays ATMOS
- DTS:X, it displays DTS:X
- DTS 96/24, it displays DTS 96/24
btw, I mentioned ARC because if you use the TV's USB for movie, it can only decode/pass-through upto 5.1 channels. so even if you play a Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA 7ch encodes, you will only get the core 5.1 to be passed-through. the same goes for S/PDIF. so it's best to use an NMT that could decode/pass-through 8ch to your X1200W.
=))
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 06, 2017 at 01:41 PM
http://www.soundunited.com/sound-united-announces-acquisition-of-dm-group/
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Mar 13, 2017 at 10:58 AM
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM
Quote from: http://www.audioholics.com/audio-amplifier/impedance-selector-switch-1/amplifier-and-power-supply-basics
In speaking with Yamaha, they told me they could not confirm any failures of receivers directly attributed to running the high impedance mode with 4 ohm speakers. Their power supply / amplifier failure rate hasn't changed with the inclusion of the impedance selector switch on their A/V receivers.
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Mar 13, 2017 at 05:34 PM
Post by: mhacman on Mar 20, 2017 at 02:18 PM
it's good that they raised the bar on these S-series models...
https://usa.denon.com/us/news/news/177
Post by: Fraternum on Mar 21, 2017 at 03:23 PM
I auditioned it last week and there is a delay when switching from one song to the other when I connected my Iphone. Just want to check if this is a common thing or if there is anything we can do to fix it.
Thanks!
Post by: mhacman on Mar 21, 2017 at 04:12 PM
with the delay you've experienced, does the song already started (with time moving past 00:00:00) before you hear it from x1300w or the next song totally starts after the a while but it's sync with the Denon? how long is the delay, 2-3secs?
Post by: Fraternum on Mar 21, 2017 at 04:27 PM
^ hi sir, I listen to my x1300w bluetooth with my android phone, though... and I notice no delay when switching with the next song.. with 1 second perhaps, but this should be understandable...
with the delay you've experienced, does the song already started (with time moving past 00:00:00) before you hear it from x1300w or the next song totally starts after the a while but it's sync with the Denon? how long is the delay, 2-3secs?
I recall that I already pressed the next song on my phone and it already switched to the next song, but the receiver is still playing the previous song with about 2 second delay.
Is this normal for Denons? I also auditioned the Onkyo 343 and there's no delay when I switch songs, although I am more keen on getting the Denon for other reasons, obviously.
Post by: mhacman on Mar 21, 2017 at 06:07 PM
my nephew once connected thru bluetooth with his IPhone 6, but can't recall if we experienced it... will try again, but still using my Android.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Mar 21, 2017 at 09:37 PM
I recall that I already pressed the next song on my phone and it already switched to the next song, but the receiver is still playing the previous song with about 2 second delay.I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
Is this normal for Denons? I also auditioned the Onkyo 343 and there's no delay when I switch songs, although I am more keen on getting the Denon for other reasons, obviously.
Post by: Fraternum on Mar 22, 2017 at 11:44 AM
I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
Gano katagal yung delay sa x2200? I tried the Onkyo and walang delay, baka updated firmware na yun.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Mar 22, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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Post by: Fraternum on Mar 22, 2017 at 02:17 PM
Mga 2 secs din bro.
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Thanks bro.
Post by: mhacman on May 29, 2017 at 10:22 PM
https://usa.denon.com/us/news/news/181
while these ones I'd hope should be coming-in as well -- S-series (with Dolby Vision and HLG)
https://usa.denon.com/us/news/news/177
Post by: joepaps on Jun 02, 2017 at 06:18 AM
New Firmware update.
Post by: mhacman on Jun 02, 2017 at 11:08 AM
New Firmware update.
for which models, sir?
Post by: joepaps on Jun 02, 2017 at 06:55 PM
Post by: mhacman on Jun 03, 2017 at 12:54 AM
I checked earlier and there's none yet for my x1300w. the latest firmware update was on Mar2017, though... saying it's "for improved performance".
I'm waiting if they will include a feature upgrade of HLG for our 2015/2016 models (wishful thinking) hehe
Post by: joepaps on Jun 03, 2017 at 04:33 AM
Post by: RastaSega on Jun 05, 2017 at 04:32 PM
sa apple products you're better off using Airplay instead of bluetooth. It's far more responsive and the sound quality for me is much better.
Post by: mhacman on Jun 15, 2017 at 05:37 PM
http://denon-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4723/~/hdr-format-compatibility
Post by: RastaSega on Jul 07, 2017 at 04:24 AM
Post by: mhacman on Jul 08, 2017 at 11:53 PM
BTW, where have you sourced your avr s720? thought they weren't become available in PH like s920. TIA!
Post by: Hatredcopter on Jul 09, 2017 at 12:20 AM
I can't enable "Pure Direct" option in my unit. When I press the Pure button in the remote it only cycles through Direct and Auto mode. It should cycle to Auto/Direct/Pure Direct.
I've already tried resetting the microprocessor but I'm still having the same issue. Any help? thanks
Post by: mhacman on Jul 09, 2017 at 02:16 AM
re-check x1300w's specs at Denon webiste =))
Post by: Hatredcopter on Jul 09, 2017 at 10:34 AM
^ Denon X1300W has no pure direct, sir...
re-check x1300w's specs at Denon webiste =))
I verified this with denon support
"Yes, I confirmed with my X1300W here that it does have Pure Direct. Let us know if the reset doesn't correct it.
Thanks,
Denon NA"
Just wondering if the X1300W we have locally is the same SKU. Just saw you have X1300W also so no Pure Direct on your unit as well?
Post by: RastaSega on Jul 10, 2017 at 04:10 PM
^ might just be for improved over-all performance, sir... still a good thing =)
BTW, where have you sourced your avr s720? thought they weren't become available in PH like s920. TIA!
amazon. I usually get my AVRs from them since the prices there are much cheaper even if you include Johnny Air type shipping to Manila.
Post by: mhacman on Jul 11, 2017 at 02:50 PM
amazon. I usually get my AVRs from them since the prices there are much cheaper even if you include Johnny Air type shipping to Manila.
i'm itching of going Amazon route too! firstly because the 2017 Denon/Marantz we don't know when are they coming in PH...
mind if I ask if a sales tax is added on amazon purchase? and hm JAC shipping for AVRs weighing like s720 (around 11kgs range)? TIA!
Post by: RastaSega on Jul 11, 2017 at 05:45 PM
I forgot how much exactly the shipping cost was. Note lang that the shipping weight includes the outer boxes as well.
Post by: japlog on Jul 11, 2017 at 06:25 PM
Post by: denber on Jul 14, 2017 at 12:57 AM
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Post by: RastaSega on Jul 14, 2017 at 05:16 PM
Sir confirm ko lang if pag purchase mo ba sa amazon meron ka pa din bang babayaran(ex tax, vat etc) when the unit arrives sa house mo?
if you're referring to import tax, wala.
if you're referring to the US state tax meron. Depende kung sa anong site ka bibili chaka kung saan mo ipapadeliver na state.
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 26, 2017 at 01:05 PM
Sir confirm ko lang if pag purchase mo ba sa amazon meron ka pa din bang babayaran(ex tax, vat etc) when the unit arrives sa house mo?
Sir pag mag order ka sa amazon, ship mo po sa NJ address nila to avoid tax, then, they will forward it to NY address...
nagpa compute ako freight cost ng AVR, range po 8K to 9K. HTH :)
Post by: GIJoe on Jul 26, 2017 at 01:07 PM
Sir pag mag order ka sa amazon, ship mo po sa NJ address nila to avoid tax, then, they will forward it to NY address...
nagpa compute ako freight cost ng AVR, range po 8K to 9K. HTH :)
May sales tax na din ang NJ.
Post by: RastaSega on Jul 27, 2017 at 02:33 AM
Post by: turismo1997 on Jul 27, 2017 at 02:40 AM
Post by: GIJoe on Aug 04, 2017 at 01:11 PM
Post by: mhacman on Aug 04, 2017 at 01:41 PM
a good chance for these brands' fanatics =))
Post by: qball on Aug 11, 2017 at 03:08 PM
Post by: ricky on Aug 12, 2017 at 04:48 PM
Ok po ba yung denon avr-x520bt as entry level receiver? I-pair ko sana sa Aaudio genesis v2 na FS.
Ok yun denon sir, yun aaudio ang ?????
Post by: qball on Aug 12, 2017 at 07:43 PM
Ok yun denon sir, yun aaudio ang ?????Anthony Audio sir
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Post by: mikemij on Sep 05, 2017 at 08:57 PM
Meron na ba sa inyo naka basa at nakapag update?
Post by: NickiRasgo on Dec 24, 2017 at 01:53 AM
Post by: mhacman on Dec 24, 2017 at 02:07 PM
i don't know about the other bluetooth enabled receivers but denons use very old bluetooth technology. Nakakainis.
sa apple products you're better off using Airplay instead of bluetooth. It's far more responsive and the sound quality for me is much better.
Hello guys. Just want to ask if any has experienced or experiencing in delays when using blutooth to play audio through their Denons? Particularly the Denon AVRX1300W.
I auditioned it last week and there is a delay when switching from one song to the other when I connected my Iphone. Just want to check if this is a common thing or if there is anything we can do to fix it.
Thanks!
I think its normal, kasi nung audition ko yung x2200 ng Denon yan din na experience ko sa kanya kahit yung Onkyo may ganyang issue din, but after updating yung firmware ng Onkyo ko nawala na delay nya.
^ hi sir, I listen to my x1300w bluetooth with my android phone, though... and I notice no delay when switching with the next song.. with 1 second perhaps, but this should be understandable...
with the delay you've experienced, does the song already started (with time moving past 00:00:00) before you hear it from x1300w or the next song totally starts after the a while but it's sync with the Denon? how long is the delay, 2-3secs?
Gano katagal yung delay sa x2200? I tried the Onkyo and walang delay, baka updated firmware na yun.
Mga 2 secs din bro.
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Post by: NickiRasgo on Dec 27, 2017 at 07:39 AM
^ was discussed previously on page 78, sir.. see below quotes -- though not in particular order =)
Hi Sir. Yup. Heheh. I checked the previous pages before posting a comment. Just checking if the "issue" has been resolved via firmware update or something since then.
Post by: jestergold on Dec 28, 2017 at 09:52 AM
Post by: sientobente on Dec 28, 2017 at 01:27 PM
Mga Bro, my Denon 1404 after a few seconds shuts off when turned on. What could be the problem? Help please. Thanks ...
That could be going on protect mode. Is it plugged directly to the wall outlet? Baka hindi stable ang current sa lugar nyo, and you may need a voltage regulator.
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Post by: t-bone on Dec 28, 2017 at 01:42 PM
Mga Bro, my Denon 1404 after a few seconds shuts off when turned on. What could be the problem? Help please. Thanks ...
That could be going on protect mode.
I agree.
My Denon shut down after a few sec before. May short pala yung speaker ko.
Post by: jestergold on Dec 28, 2017 at 04:38 PM
Post by: jestergold on Jan 16, 2018 at 11:32 AM
have unplugged all connections, will try to plug into an AVR later (Previously just using a surge protector)
Still experiencing the auto-shutdown of the unit. May recommended reliable repair shop ba in manila?
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Still experiencing the auto-shutdown of the unit. May recommended reliable repair shop ba in manila?Sa Raon Madaming repair shops. Kaso di sila maingat sa cosmetics. Meron din sa proj 8 QC Madami na narepair na gears ng Pdvd members.
Post by: mbtorn on Jan 16, 2018 at 12:28 PM
Sa Raon Madaming repair shops. Kaso di sila maingat sa cosmetics. Meron din sa proj 8 QC Madami na narepair na gears ng Pdvd members.
Highly recommended yung taga Proj 8 QC!!!
Post by: jestergold on Jan 18, 2018 at 01:49 PM
Highly recommended yung taga Proj 8 QC!!!
where in Proj8 ? contact number?
Thanks ...
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 26, 2018 at 01:03 AM
I want to ask for assistance po in using the calibration software of denon x-540bt. I bought this as a replacement with my Pioneer vsx-1022 po. My speakers are all wharfedale and the frequency response is listed below po:
Front - Wharfedale Crystal 4 with frequency response of 30hz-2000hz.
Center - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Surround - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Sub - US audio 512D (Don't know the frequency response) but the crossover knob is set all the way to max (I think 120hz or 150hz), Volume level knob was set to 12 o'clock position.
When I ran the Denon Auto setup if made the following changes:
Front - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Center - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Surrounds - was set to Small and crossover was set 90.
Sub - LPF for LFE was set to 120
I change the front and center to small speakers as I always do but my question is, Should I leave the center crossover to 40hz? as the frequency response of my center is only 80hz as the lowest. What would be the ideal crossover settings for my speakers to attain optimal settings. Any assistance po is much appreciated po. Thanks in Advance po sa mga mag susuggest po.
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 29, 2018 at 11:32 PM
Post by: LouPah on Apr 02, 2018 at 02:24 PM
I choose Denon AVR-X1400H for Dolby Atmos set-up, same set of speakers and additional two for the L&R height speakers.
Unboxing here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_WRqfRcm4k
Video testing here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxLqDCrYVzo
Post by: comet on Apr 02, 2018 at 03:41 PM
edit: nakita ko na sir FH pala sir
try nyo rin dynamic eq on and dynamic volume off.
Post by: RastaSega on Apr 03, 2018 at 05:04 AM
Hi fellow Pinoydvd members,
I want to ask for assistance po in using the calibration software of denon x-540bt. I bought this as a replacement with my Pioneer vsx-1022 po. My speakers are all wharfedale and the frequency response is listed below po:
Front - Wharfedale Crystal 4 with frequency response of 30hz-2000hz.
Center - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Surround - Wharfedale WH-2 with frequency response of 80hz-2000hz.
Sub - US audio 512D (Don't know the frequency response) but the crossover knob is set all the way to max (I think 120hz or 150hz), Volume level knob was set to 12 o'clock position.
When I ran the Denon Auto setup if made the following changes:
Front - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Center - was set to Large and the crossover was set to 40
Surrounds - was set to Small and crossover was set 90.
Sub - LPF for LFE was set to 120
I change the front and center to small speakers as I always do but my question is, Should I leave the center crossover to 40hz? as the frequency response of my center is only 80hz as the lowest. What would be the ideal crossover settings for my speakers to attain optimal settings. Any assistance po is much appreciated po. Thanks in Advance po sa mga mag susuggest po.
the calibration method for your avr isn't Audyssey. Since you seem to be familiar with your speakers' freq range I'd rather that you go by your specs and ears rather than rely on this calibration software. Heck, even if it did use Audyssey I'd still do the fine tuning using my own ears.
Post by: jnazareta on Apr 03, 2018 at 06:12 PM
the calibration method for your avr isn't Audyssey. Since you seem to be familiar with your speakers' freq range I'd rather that you go by your specs and ears rather than rely on this calibration software. Heck, even if it did use Audyssey I'd still do the fine tuning using my own ears.
Thanks po sir RastaSega for the response. I already fine tuned the crossover settings using my untrained ears... :) :) :)
Post by: RastaSega on Apr 13, 2018 at 05:53 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 18, 2018 at 07:31 PM
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Post by: LouPah on Jul 05, 2018 at 10:15 AM
anong height mo sir, FH or RH?
edit: nakita ko na sir FH pala sir
try nyo rin dynamic eq on and dynamic volume off.
Both dynamic eq and dynamic volume are On. I don't really relying on Audyssey, so fine tuned it manually.
Coming from my previous 6.1 set-up with my Yamaha, Dolby Atmos add a little improvements on sound field, but not that much. IMO.
Post by: comet on Jul 05, 2018 at 11:13 AM
Post by: keema on Jul 09, 2018 at 12:58 AM
(Bigay lang kse sakn tong receiver).
Thanks everyone..
Post by: mhacman on Jul 11, 2018 at 08:48 PM
Hi everyone, naka avr-2310 ako connected thru toslink cable from my macmini. Fronts left and right lang ang speakers. Question, pag nanonood ako ng movies wala akong marinig na dialogue sa left and right speakers ko. Pag select ko yung pure direct, 5.1 yung nakikita ko sa screen ng avr. So papano ko ma-force na 2.0 lang dun sa remote?
(Bigay lang kse sakn tong receiver).
Thanks everyone..
since 2.0 speaker set up gamit mo, you need to configure your AVR na FRONTs left & right speakers lang nkakabit sa kanya.
baka kasi 5.1 yung current na settings niya. Also try STEREO mode instead of DIRECT.
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 12, 2018 at 10:03 AM
Post by: Leon21 on Jul 23, 2018 at 07:46 PM
Post by: mhacman on Jul 23, 2018 at 11:19 PM
also checked Denon avr-x3400h at Amazon. several searched items came up. 1 for 599USD (item condition: new) and another 1 for 549USD (item condition: refurbished). I think both Accessories4Less & Amazon may have the same stores as source.
Post by: Leon21 on Jul 24, 2018 at 12:53 AM
i just checked Denon avr-x3400h at Accessories4Less. only 1 searched item came up. it's 549USD (item condition: refurbished)
also checked Denon avr-x3400h at Amazon. several searched items came up. 1 for 599USD (item condition: new) and another 1 for 549USD (item condition: refurbished). I think both Accessories4Less & Amazon may have the same stores as source.
What I'm looking at is the AVR-X1400H.
Post by: LouPah on Jul 24, 2018 at 09:12 AM
What I'm looking at is the AVR-X1400H.
Got it locally at Listening room with warranty..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_WRqfRcm4k&t=53s
Post by: Leon21 on Jul 24, 2018 at 01:28 PM
Got it locally at Listening room with warranty..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_WRqfRcm4k&t=53s
With similar prices to Amazon or A4L?
Post by: LouPah on Jul 24, 2018 at 03:33 PM
With similar prices to Amazon or A4L?
Definitely NOT! I bought my other gears on different international online stores like Amazon, Aliexpress, Alibaba, ebay...... but never this store.
Post by: Leon21 on Jul 24, 2018 at 04:07 PM
Definitely NOT! I bought my other gears on different international online stores like Amazon, Aliexpress, Alibaba, ebay...... but never this store.
You mind sharing how much you got your Denon for from Listening Room? I'll probably drop by their store over the next few days just so I know my options before making a possible purchase.
Post by: mhacman on Jul 24, 2018 at 04:39 PM
Definitely NOT! I bought my other gears on different international online stores like Amazon, Aliexpress, Alibaba, ebay...... but never this store.
baka ang gusto kasi ni sir @leon21 are refurbished gears-- as these are what usually available from A4L, thus the name implies "4less". though I found that Amazon do sell refurbished items as well. I think, there's more peace of mind with Amazon.
going with brand new/sealed is better it budget permits. and best if locally purchased so that you'd have a working warranty. mas mahal lang talaga dito sa PH. kaya I find the people living in the US, swerte sa mga ganitong gears =))
Post by: Leon21 on Jul 24, 2018 at 08:03 PM
baka ang gusto kasi ni sir @leon21 are refurbished gears-- as these are what usually available from A4L, thus the name implies "4less". though I found that Amazon do sell refurbished items as well. I think, there's more peace of mind with Amazon.
going with brand new/sealed is better it budget permits. and best if locally purchased so that you'd have a working warranty. mas mahal lang talaga dito sa PH. kaya I find the people living in the US, swerte sa mga ganitong gears =))
Of course brand new is better, but I'd prefer to spend less if I can. And yes, I find us so unlucky that these items usually cost 2x more for us compared to our American/Canadian neighbours.
Post by: LouPah on Jul 25, 2018 at 09:06 AM
You mind sharing how much you got your Denon for from Listening Room? I'll probably drop by their store over the next few days just so I know my options before making a possible purchase.
Got it for 30K with 6months local warranty only. My old Yamaha still kicking, but I need to upgrade for Dolby Atmos and other cool features for today's technology, like I can voice control my Denon thru Alexa and Google Assistant. When all things set-up, the included remote is barely use.
BTW....I only shop online abroad, when the item is not locally available.
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 31, 2018 at 11:07 AM
My connection is zidoo to denon to my sony tv. Im already using one of the hdmi out sa denon. Can i use the other hdmi out to connect to my projector? That way i can also enjoy movie sounds pag watching pj ko. I have a onkyo 608 on standby just in case i have to use it for my pj setup. Pero using same speakers connected to denon.
What are my options?
Help pls. Thanks.
Post by: LouPah on Jul 31, 2018 at 11:22 AM
Can i use the other hdmi out to connect to my projector?
That's the purpose of it, you can connect two displays simultaneously. But AFAIK, only one has an audio out and the other hdmi output is merely for monitor display only, meaning NO audio out.
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 31, 2018 at 01:35 PM
That's the purpose of it, you can connect two displays simultaneously. But AFAIK, only one has an audio out and the other hdmi output is merely for monitor display only, meaning NO audio out.
Ok thanks. I will try it out. Darn kasi meron ako conflict sa hdmi splitter ko. If not problem solved. Ty
Post by: sinnedycate on Aug 22, 2018 at 06:11 PM
Post by: LouPah on Aug 22, 2018 at 09:48 PM
Hi mga papi, yung output from my front right speaker bigla na lang humina, i already tried swapping cables and speakers, pero mahina pa rin, i already reset to factory settings pero ganon pa rin, my AVR is Denon 1910. Ano kaya problem? TIA
Nangyari din sa akin yan sa dati kong Yamaha, tried different trouble shoot on the avr, pero sa speaker pala mismo nag loose connection inside. Just try swaping your speakers.
Post by: sinnedycate on Aug 23, 2018 at 08:44 AM
Nangyari din sa akin yan sa dati kong Yamaha, tried different trouble shoot on the avr, pero sa speaker pala mismo nag loose connection inside. Just try swaping your speakers.I already tried swapping speakers, same result. And tried to setup audyssey again, here is the result:
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Meron po ba recommended na shop na nagre repair ng denon avr? Thanks
Post by: jnazareta on Aug 30, 2018 at 06:14 PM
Just want to ask if your FR and SR speakers has an untreated (No Acoustic treatment) wall on its right side? I had the same experience na mahina yung FR speaker ko and both my FR and SR has a wall on the right. I isolated the issue by swapping the speakers and still same result, Mahina yung sa speaker that I connected to the FR. I thought that my brandnew denon receiver is broken as both speakers i tried gives the same result. I then tried to hook both of my front speakers to a stereo receiver and to my surprise they sounded the same. I then tried to play with my speaker position to see if the wall has a big effect. I re-ran the speaker calibration and this time I placed the FR and SR speakers 2 feet away from the calibration mic. The results have changed and got a -8 for the FR and -9 for the SR. I then tried to play a movie (Transformer: the dark moon) and to my surprise malakas ang tunog ng FR and SR ko. I hope this helps po.
Post by: JDat01 on Aug 31, 2018 at 01:01 AM
Post by: LouPah on Aug 31, 2018 at 08:18 AM
Hello, anyone here who have denon avh x2400h? Ok po ba siya. Wala kasi ako mahanap na maauditionan. Thanks
I have Denon avr-x1400h.
Both AV receivers have the same number of channels of 7 and the Denon AVR-X1400H has a lower RMS power (80) compared to
the Denon AVR-X2400H which has RMS power (95). The Denon AVR-X1400H and the Denon AVR-X2400H have the same total
harmonic distortion of 0.08 %. Moreover, the Denon AVR-X1400H and the Denon AVR-X2400H both have a minimum
impedance of 4 ohms.
To my ears, maganda cya sa movies and merely bought it just for the atmos. but for the music mas preferred ko yung old
Yahama ko. Pero X-1400h and X-2400h are loaded with the latest features, easy to controlled by Alexa by Heos connect.
Post by: bogart.2006 on Sep 14, 2018 at 08:52 AM
yung receiver ko, nagloloko. namatay while in use. natakot ako kasi akala ko major sira. nung tiningnan ko, sisindi siya pag gagalawin mo yung plug sa AVR. akala ko yung AVR ang may problem pero ganun din if I move it to another outlet. ano kaya problem? yung plug ng receiver kaya?
Post by: wheelee on Sep 14, 2018 at 09:25 AM
try to solve muna by deductions, anything you can replace try & see. HTH
Post by: bogart.2006 on Sep 14, 2018 at 10:15 AM
kung loose connection lang yan baka may putol na yung AC cord sa dulo, try another one kung replaceable, nangyari na sa akin kasi ito, na stress yung bending point nung AC cord. Kung may fuse holder naman sya try cleaning the fuse ends/ holder baka nag corrode na sya. Or baka lumutong na yung solder sa loob at nag kakaron ng intermittent connections.
try to solve muna by deductions, anything you can replace try & see. HTH
sealed yung plug sir eh, so walang fuse. di rin replaceable. nagaalangan naman ako palitan ung plug ng basta basta lang din
Post by: wheelee on Sep 14, 2018 at 04:03 PM
maybe something like this ba, otherwise baka other electronics or MCU failure
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Post by: bogart.2006 on Sep 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM
Post by: bogart.2006 on Sep 17, 2018 at 12:22 PM
Post by: wheelee on Sep 17, 2018 at 02:54 PM
or Module board kaya, ganon na ngayon di gaya noon hinihimay yung buong PCB para itrouble shoot, ngayon palit module nalang sila.
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 17, 2018 at 02:55 PM
Post by: bogart.2006 on Sep 17, 2018 at 04:17 PM
Post by: LoBudget on Sep 17, 2018 at 04:42 PM
@Yunarce, been going around seems like everyone's selling the x1400H at the same price 34990. Some have cash discounts others no diff cash or card... odd since they are now officially 2 yr old models here.
Post by: wheelee on Sep 17, 2018 at 06:14 PM
^try pa naman daw ayusin bro, yun nga lang wala ng warranty daw yung repair kasi nga di na daw supported and gagawaan na lang paraan
okidoki, sana nga maayos pa nila.
Post by: andlisten on Sep 17, 2018 at 08:57 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DenonPH/photos/a.412531535540674/1726893067437841/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/DenonPH/photos/a.412531535540674/1726893067437841/?type=3&theater)
Post by: mhacman on Sep 18, 2018 at 01:22 AM
2018 models are now available (e.g. x2500h, x550BT). Is there anything apart from HEOS that makes it worth getting these over x1300H or x1400H?
2018 models has the phono MM input now. difference with 2016 x1300W and 2017 x1400H is the AKM DAC and built-in HEOS.
@Yunarce, been going around seems like everyone's selling the x1400H at the same price 34990. Some have cash discounts others no diff cash or card... odd since they are now officially 2 yr old models here.
the reason going to stores that only offers the best cash discounts. better to get the latest model if price is the same as the previous model -- you get longer firmware support and maybe +1 or +2 improved feature. price drop doesn't happen in PH as much in the US and that's unfortunate for us...
Post by: Yunarce on Sep 18, 2018 at 05:02 PM
Post by: XanderCage on Oct 10, 2018 at 05:27 PM
which is better? a step down transformer or an AVR?
thank you.
Post by: bogart.2006 on Oct 11, 2018 at 07:09 AM
okidoki, sana nga maayos pa nila.
just heard back from the service center and it's good news. may kailangan lang palitan na part which is cheap. apparently nag-overheat daw ang receiver. yung placement ko yata sa rack doesn't leave enough air to circulate. ililipat ko na lang para makahinga
Post by: wheelee on Oct 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM
anong part daw pinalitan nila?
Post by: tigkal on Oct 11, 2018 at 12:03 PM
just heard back from the service center and it's good news. may kailangan lang palitan na part which is cheap. apparently nag-overheat daw ang receiver. yung placement ko yata sa rack doesn't leave enough air to circulate. ililipat ko na lang para makahingaAng ginawa ko bili ng laptop cooler, yung two fans, then put on top of the receiver(air movement away from receiver) which emits the most heat, bought 5v usb charger, a plug which you can program with the remote control. Pag on ng receiver, turn on din ang fan. If same lang ang on/off button, pag off mo, turn off din ang fan pag turn off ng receiver. Pag naka sleep lang you have to manually turn off the fan. All from Lazada.. Less than 1k total. Receiver now cool to touch.
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 11, 2018 at 01:03 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 11, 2018 at 01:05 PM
question lang mga sir, im looking to buy a denon s730h from the US rated at 400w. okay na ba yung 500w step down transformer?
which is better? a step down transformer or an AVR?
thank you.
500w step down is adequate but very little headroom. Why not just get a 1.5KW step down instead? Future proof ka pa if you add more 110V A/V goodies
Post by: bogart.2006 on Oct 11, 2018 at 01:06 PM
cool! nice to know.
anong part daw pinalitan nila?
IC Regulator lang...
Post by: bogart.2006 on Oct 11, 2018 at 01:21 PM
my Denon is pushing all my six 4 ohm low sensitivity speakers to an SPL that is beyond normal listening levels and never broke down in 7 years. Same method: laptop cooler with twin fan wired to a 5V wall wart from an old i-phone and plugged at the back of the Denon as a slave. When AVR is on it turns on as well.
Ang ginawa ko bili ng laptop cooler, yung two fans, then put on top of the receiver(air movement away from receiver) which emits the most heat, bought 5v usb charger, a plug which you can program with the remote control. Pag on ng receiver, turn on din ang fan. If same lang ang on/off button, pag off mo, turn off din ang fan pag turn off ng receiver. Pag naka sleep lang you have to manually turn off the fan. All from Lazada.. Less than 1k total. Receiver now cool to touch.
sorry, medyo noob. so i buy laptop cooler that's usb powered. how do i get it to power on with the receiver? tapos tama ang intindi ko, the fan blows away from the receiver? so it sucks heat out?
Post by: wheelee on Oct 11, 2018 at 02:12 PM
kung wala yung standard na charger para sa mga phones pwede na yun, at least mga 1A/5W much better kung mga 2A para hindi underpowered .
you could either suck it from the top or bottom as long as there is good airflow.
Post by: mhacman on Oct 11, 2018 at 04:08 PM
check your user manual, para sure kayo =)
Post by: mhacman on Oct 11, 2018 at 04:17 PM
But sa Onkyo daw, according sa user manual:
- USB jack: A USB storage device is connected so that music files stored in it can be
played. You can also supply power (5 V/1 A) to USB devices with a USB cable.
try nyo nlang sa Denon niyo >:D
Post by: tigkal on Oct 11, 2018 at 04:23 PM
sorry, medyo noob. so i buy laptop cooler that's usb powered. how do i get it to power on with the receiver? tapos tama ang intindi ko, the fan blows away from the receiver? so it sucks heat out?You can power it through a usb charger. The ones used for cellphone charging. To power on with the receiver, you need a plug that can be programmed with a remote. Please see link. Yes it sucks heat out. You can feel the heat when you place your hand directly over the fan.
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/220v-500w-wireless-remote-control-ac-power-socket-i4471774-s5558174.html
Post by: tigkal on Oct 11, 2018 at 04:59 PM
^ need to refer back with Denon user manual. though IIRC, their USB port is with 5V-powered. so okay na yung USB-wired cooling fan na ikabit sa USB port ng AVR.The problem with my usb port is it will only have power if you select usb. No power when selector is not usb.. No slave outlet din ang receiver. Kaya programable plug because I cannot find an extension cord with master and slave outlet. There is a extension cord where one plug is the master. If it senses to draw power, it will turn on all the other outlet. When the appliance connected to the master outlet turns off, it also turns off the rest of the outlet. Kaso wala sa local. This would have been the ideal solution.
check your user manual, para sure kayo =)
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 11, 2018 at 05:15 PM
I set up my cooler to suck the hot air inside the AVR.
Post by: mhacman on Oct 11, 2018 at 05:37 PM
The problem with my usb port is it will only have power if you select usb. No power when selector is not usb.. No slave outlet din ang receiver. Kaya programable plug because I cannot find an extension cord with master and slave outlet. There is a extension cord where one plug is the master. If it senses to draw power, it will turn on all the other outlet. When the appliance connected to the master outlet turns off, it also turns off the rest of the outlet. Kaso wala sa local. This would have been the ideal solution.
I see.. hehehe ganun pala. anyway, spare celfone charger is the easiest. need additional plug nlang for the power source =)
Post by: bogart.2006 on Oct 12, 2018 at 06:56 AM
i guess the best option would be the remote controlled plug na i-program mo to turn on and off with the receiver.
last request... patingin naman ng magandang cooler to use :-)
Post by: edwn1220 on Oct 12, 2018 at 08:12 AM
A/V Receiver cooler
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0338.jpg)
Low speed setting (at roughly ~60% power)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0337.jpg)
High speed setting (full power)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/AVR%20Fan%20Project/IMG_0336.jpg)
Actual tests takes less than 30 seconds to cool down a 45 degree Celcius AVR to room temperature at Low speed setting.
Cheers
Shoot jojoD a PM.
Post by: tigkal on Oct 12, 2018 at 08:35 AM
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/usb-mini-octopus-laptop-notebook-foldable-folding-fan-cooler-cooling-pad-1-pcs-intl-i138725233-s156799995.html?search=1
Post by: bogart.2006 on Oct 12, 2018 at 02:14 PM
Post by: Blu-devil on Nov 19, 2018 at 05:31 AM
(http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu272/blu-devil1967/130E72EE-CB92-4079-9F56-DCF92127CAE8_zpsngvpkcbt.jpeg)
Post by: bogart.2006 on Nov 20, 2018 at 07:45 AM
Eto gamit ko. naka tiklop yung octopus, and naka patong sa AVR and bumili ako ng magnet para naka angat konti pag patong. Hindi kailangan malakas, need lang air exchange. Kasi if sobra lakas, konti lang ang time ng air to absorb the heat inside. hanapin mo lang saan ang pinaka mainit na portion and doon mo patong.
https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/usb-mini-octopus-laptop-notebook-foldable-folding-fan-cooler-cooling-pad-1-pcs-intl-i138725233-s156799995.html?search=1
nagorder ako sa Lazada, sira.... bad trip
Post by: DViant on Jan 08, 2019 at 01:37 AM
Post by: mhacman on Jan 08, 2019 at 02:05 PM
Anyone know of a shop selling the Denon AVR-X3500H (https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/denon-avr-x3500h) for less than P59,500?
try with The Listening Room, Megamall 3F Bldg B
let us know...
Post by: [joms] on Jan 21, 2019 at 08:23 AM
Problem: nawawala yung mid and rear speakers kahit naka set to 5channel stereo. I tried to tinker with the menu and inalis ko yung mid/rear then test tone then binalik ko then test tone and did this several times until i heard a "tick" sa denon tapos nagkaroon na ng sound yung mid and rears ko and everything is fine until i turn off the power. Every time i turn on the amp, i need to go to the menu para mapalabas ko yung mid and rear sound sa speakers ko. It sometimes takes 2mins and minsan more than 10mins.
Ano kaya problema nya? hinigpitan ko ulit lahat ng speaker wire so i guess its not there.
Post by: tigkal on Jan 21, 2019 at 09:14 AM
Post by: wheelee on Jan 21, 2019 at 09:45 AM
try using a different speaker, if it's still the same baka yung circuit na, naka check narin ako ng cold solder before
Post by: [joms] on Jan 21, 2019 at 11:36 AM
Post by: jnazareta on Jan 22, 2019 at 09:58 PM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Jan 22, 2019 at 11:23 PM
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Post by: [joms] on Jan 23, 2019 at 09:58 AM
Post by: Pipo_1925 on Jan 23, 2019 at 07:15 PM
san yung love electronics? sa paranaque area ba sya? tymay branch siya sa parañaque bro. http://www.love-electronics.com/2/index.php/en/branches/paranaque-city
pa canvass mo lang din muna bro para hindi ka muna maglabas ng pera.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 25, 2019 at 12:00 PM
Guys my Denon is around 5yrs old and i bought it abroad for around 35k (dito nasa mga 55k yata). Question is, will they repair it here sa Pinas?anong model ng Denon ito boss?
Problem: nawawala yung mid and rear speakers kahit naka set to 5channel stereo. I tried to tinker with the menu and inalis ko yung mid/rear then test tone then binalik ko then test tone and did this several times until i heard a "tick" sa denon tapos nagkaroon na ng sound yung mid and rears ko and everything is fine until i turn off the power. Every time i turn on the amp, i need to go to the menu para mapalabas ko yung mid and rear sound sa speakers ko. It sometimes takes 2mins and minsan more than 10mins.
Ano kaya problema nya? hinigpitan ko ulit lahat ng speaker wire so i guess its not there.
Post by: RastaSega on Jan 28, 2019 at 09:09 PM
QC area sha.
Post by: keema on Feb 01, 2019 at 11:27 AM
Post by: wheelee on Feb 01, 2019 at 02:51 PM
FYI
(https://tydata.znds.net/album/201901/08/180145seii5i5aetawweic.jpg)
Post by: keema on Feb 02, 2019 at 04:18 AM
Post by: shuttertrigger on Feb 25, 2019 at 11:45 PM
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 26, 2019 at 08:30 AM
Post by: shuttertrigger on Feb 26, 2019 at 09:56 PM
Set fronts to small
Thanks sir Mark, will try this.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Mar 02, 2019 at 12:37 AM
I bought an old Denon AVR 1613 in the market and hindi ko mapalabas yung sound sa sub, Im only using the analog source input "DVD" connecting my phone for audio. I already set the Fronts to Large and Sub to Yes but still no sound coming sa sub.
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Issue resolved. Need to set pala the sub to LFE/Main. Hini kasi makita when you set up the speakers using the Receiver display. When connected to TV andon configuration ng settings.. (first time to use HDMI capable receiver) ;D
Post by: Conan on Mar 02, 2019 at 11:21 AM
Issue resolved. Need to set pala the sub to LFE/Main. Hini kasi makita when you set up the speakers using the Receiver display. When connected to TV andon configuration ng settings.. (first time to use HDMI capable receiver) ;DWelcome to the 21st century! ;D
Post by: shuttertrigger on Mar 03, 2019 at 04:18 AM
Welcome to the 21st century! ;D
;D ;D ;D
Post by: [joms] on May 27, 2019 at 07:04 PM
Post by: Conan on May 27, 2019 at 08:26 PM
It's the same model locally X3500H.
Post by: mhacman on May 29, 2019 at 12:28 PM
AVR- X1600H ($599) and AVR- X2600H ($799)
https://hometheaterreview.com/denon-and-marantz-announce-select-new-2019-model-receivers/
Post by: mhacman on Aug 05, 2019 at 11:50 PM
https://www.the-home-cinema-guide.com/denon-receivers.html#x3600
Post by: xb24 on Aug 08, 2019 at 05:15 AM
Post by: RXV on Aug 08, 2019 at 01:37 PM
WHOAH! Denon has just upped it's 2019 AVR X3600H! this will be the top-of-the-line Denon AVR for 2019. it now has a 9-ch native amplification... and a 11-ch pre-out!
https://www.the-home-cinema-guide.com/denon-receivers.html#x3600
Nice! So wala na po sir 4xxx to 6xxx models nila? At least their product line-up is simpler.
Wow, makaka 7.2.4 capable na rin at this price point.
Years ago, you need to spend around double the cost (around $2000) to get to try 7.2.4
Now 7.2.4 has reached $1000 territory :D
Post by: mhacman on Aug 08, 2019 at 09:47 PM
Post by: RXV on Aug 08, 2019 at 09:52 PM
none on 4xxx to 6xxx models for 2019... they said they will be sold and rolled-off for 2years. the best is yet to come for these models on 2020 =)
Luckily, the Atmos/DTS-X exclusivity has already at least settled (over the years), and trickle-down technology is now being seen in the lower models. Can't wait to have my own 7.2.4 in the future (distant future hahaha)
Post by: RXV on Aug 08, 2019 at 09:54 PM
Sirain po ba ang denon receivers? Tumatagal ng 10+ years? Gusto ko sana magpalit from yamaha dahil medyo bright sounding siya at gusto ko ma-experience yung audyssey multeq xt32.
I have been a Denon fan since the beginning, and I have a 14 year old Denon AVR still flawlessly working until now.
I just don't know about recent models. Hopefully they're also as robust as the older models
Post by: mhacman on Aug 08, 2019 at 10:09 PM
Luckily, the Atmos/DTS-X exclusivity has already at least settled (over the years), and trickle-down technology is now being seen in the lower models. Can't wait to have my own 7.2.4 in the future (distant future hahaha)
^ you're right, sir! they trickle down hi-end features into mid-end ones.. nauna si Onkyo sa RZ730/830 then now Denon. Atmos/DTS:X audio are into their 4th year since launch and has already been available across (almost) all new movies (and movie re-releases). even on some drama genres we are seeing Atmos on them haha
while Barco's Auro-3D might die down as I see no new movies embedded with it, the IMAX Enhanced as launched in 2018 -- may still need a few years as well to gain popularity. maybe that's why hi-end future-proofed AVR's need no new model releases as there's nothing to upgrade with, just yet
Post by: RXV on Aug 08, 2019 at 11:27 PM
THAT I have to see (and hear :D )
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 31, 2020 at 01:03 PM
I hear cracking/popping sounds from the right front speaker and then the receiver turns off after a while. I tried the following:
1. plugged and unplugged the speaker wires at the back;
2. used contact cleaner; and
3. changed the speaker wire.
It's the same result.
I also tried switching cables - when i plugged the left front speakers to the R speakers plug in the back of the denon, the left speaker started cracking/popping. so it's really the plug at the back of the receiver and not the speaker which is the problem. all others are working.
Is it time to buy a new receiver? Worth it ba ipa-ayos?
Post by: t-bone on Aug 31, 2020 at 01:10 PM
Looks like a minor fix
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 31, 2020 at 04:26 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 31, 2020 at 05:25 PM
hi all, experiencing a problem with my denon 1713 receiver (6 years old, purchased in 2014).You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
I hear cracking/popping sounds from the right front speaker and then the receiver turns off after a while. I tried the following:
1. plugged and unplugged the speaker wires at the back;
2. used contact cleaner; and
3. changed the speaker wire.
It's the same result.
I also tried switching cables - when i plugged the left front speakers to the R speakers plug in the back of the denon, the left speaker started cracking/popping. so it's really the plug at the back of the receiver and not the speaker which is the problem. all others are working.
Is it time to buy a new receiver? Worth it ba ipa-ayos?
+639171392603-Manuel Sales.
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Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 31, 2020 at 05:28 PM
Sirain po ba ang denon receivers? Tumatagal ng 10+ years? Gusto ko sana magpalit from yamaha dahil medyo bright sounding siya at gusto ko ma-experience yung audyssey multeq xt32.
Yung sa akin 2009 model pa. It is driving 7 hard to drive, 4 ohm low sensitivity speakers. Buhay pa din naman and for me it still provides the thrills every time I watch movies. Since I'm "overclocking" the amp with speakers that are pigs to drive, I installed a 4 fan laptop cooler on top back in 2012 to suck out the heat. Never had any issues with it.
Post by: tonedeaf on Aug 31, 2020 at 10:57 PM
You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
+639171392603-Manuel Sales.
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thank you. i will get in touch with him.
while i want to upgrade to a 7.1 system one of these months, kung puwede sana wag muna ngayon. haha.
Post by: tonedeaf on Oct 04, 2020 at 07:08 PM
You may want to get in touch with Manuel Sales.He is a trusted technician and is doing home service.
+639171392603-Manuel Sales.
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Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 04, 2020 at 11:13 PM
Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.Congratulations you were able to evade buying a new receiver.
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Post by: usbslave on Nov 28, 2020 at 06:42 AM
Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.Sir I suggest isabay mo na pakabitan ng fan. Pwede yan kay sir manny
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Post by: jamjam on Dec 31, 2020 at 04:03 PM
Happy new year!
Need help with my Denon 2311 as the fuse (1.6A) keeps blowing after 2 replacements. Figured there is a problem in the power supply.
Is there someone here that repair Denon AV receiver?
TIA!
Post by: jamjam on Dec 31, 2020 at 04:12 PM
Update: I was able to get in touch with Manuel Sales and he was able to fix my Denon receiver. Due to COVID, however, he doesn't do home service nowadays. I sent him my receiver via Lalamove.The cell number of Manuel Sales is incorrect. Do you have his updated number? TIA.
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Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 06, 2021 at 08:44 PM
The cell number of Manuel Sales is incorrect. Do you have his updated number? TIA.
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+1. need to have my Dad's Onkyo AVR fixed. Hope somebody can post his updated cell no.
Post by: jamjam on Jan 06, 2021 at 09:34 PM
09157554587
I was able to contact him via Messenger.
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Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 06, 2021 at 10:02 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 07, 2021 at 06:15 PM
Thanks jamjam. Appreciate it
Killa si Manny sa pagiging mahusay na tech, hopefully eh magawa yung gamit mo
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 11, 2021 at 10:06 PM
Killa si Manny sa pagiging mahusay na tech, hopefully eh magawa yung gamit mo
Thanks Bro. AVR is now with Manuel. Just waiting for his diagnosis.
Post by: dazed on Oct 20, 2022 at 02:38 PM
Was trying to call Manuel's number but no luck. Thanks!
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 20, 2022 at 03:25 PM
Was trying to call Manuel's number but no luck. Thanks!
09164943285
was just texting him a few days ago. He is using this new number
Post by: dazed on Oct 20, 2022 at 05:55 PM
09164943285
was just texting him a few days ago. He is using this new number
Thank you, will try this one!
Post by: dazed on Oct 24, 2022 at 01:22 PM
09164943285
was just texting him a few days ago. He is using this new number
all sorted, manuel came over and managed to do a workaround to get my unit working. Wasn't able to fix it 100%, but since the issue was with the amplifier portion of my AVR and I wasn't using that (since I have a power amp that drives my speakers), we just bypassed that so the unit doesn't turn off. Recommended!
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 24, 2022 at 01:52 PM
all sorted, manuel came over and managed to do a workaround to get my unit working. Wasn't able to fix it 100%, but since the issue was with the amplifier portion of my AVR and I wasn't using that (since I have a power amp that drives my speakers), we just bypassed that so the unit doesn't turn off. Recommended!
That's good to hear bro.
Post by: ivannn on Dec 07, 2022 at 09:48 PM
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