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Title: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on May 16, 2006 at 12:56 PM
NBC just announced a new series called Heroes, which will air Monday nights this Fall 2006.  Heroes is produced by creator/writer Tim Kring, Dennis Hammer and David Semel, who also directed the pilot.

From the network press release:
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The epic drama Heroes chronicles the lives of ordinary people who discover they possess extraordinary abilities. As a total eclipse casts it shadow across the globe, viewers follow a genetics professor (Sendhil Ramamurthy) in India whose father's disappearance leads him to uncover a secret theory -- there are people with super powers living among us.

"A young dreamer (Milo Ventimiglia) tries to convince his politician brother (Adrian Pasdar) that he can fly. A high school cheerleader (Hayden Panettiere) learns that she is totally indestructible. A Las Vegas stripper (Ali Larter), struggling to make ends meet to support her young son (Noah Gray-Cabey), uncovers that her mirror image has a secret. A prison inmate (Leonard Roberts) mysteriously finds himself waking up outside of his cell. A gifted artist (Santiago Cabrera), whose drug addiction is destroying his life and the relationship with his girlfriend (Tawny Cypress), can paint the future. A down-on-his-luck beat cop (Greg Grunberg) can hear people's thoughts, including the secrets of a captured terrorist. In Japan, a young man (Masi Oka) develops a way to stop time through sheer will power.

"Their ultimate destiny is nothing less than saving the world."

There are some familiar names there, notably Greg Grunberg (Alias, Lost, Felicity); Adrian Pasdar (Profit, Judging Amy, Desperate Housewives); and Milo Ventimiglia (Gilmore Girls).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on May 16, 2006 at 02:29 PM
The premise seems interesting but it comes from the same guy responsible for Crossing Jordan which dampens my enthusiasm a bit.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jun 02, 2006 at 12:07 PM
Looks like the series is defying expectations. Alan Sepinwall previewed the pilot:

"Pluses: Given the resume of creator Tim Kring (Crossing Jordan, Providence), this is much more interesting than I was expecting. Just as Friday Night Lights appealed to the sports nut in me, this played to my inner comic book geek. The idea of "What would happen if people got super powers in the real world?" has been done plenty of times before, from Watchmen to Unbreakable, but Kring has a nice spin on it: not nearly as solemn and pretentious as "Unbreakable," but serious enough that it doesn't seem like camp. I particularly liked Masi Oka as the Japanese hero (named Hiro, of course) and Sendhil Ramamurthy as an Indian genetics professor obsessed with proving that humans can evolve into superhumans. Also, director David Semel finds a way to shoot certain scenes as if they were comic book panels without cribbing the visual style of Ang Lee's Hulk.

Minuses: It's a huge cast (Grunberg and a few other castmembers aren't even in the pilot) and, like Surface before it, so sprawling that I'm not sure what a typical episode might look like. Despite the avoidance of spandex and other comic book tropes (though Panettiere's cheerleader uniform sort of qualifies as a costume), you really have to be a geek like me to appreciate it, I think."
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jul 19, 2006 at 06:42 PM
If the pilot is any indication, the creators were able to pull this off ala Singer's X-Men. I loved the pilot. I'm so glad this was no Mutant X. Ventimiglia wasn't irritating... yet.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: CrUzSACK on Jul 21, 2006 at 12:08 PM
Oh, got pre-air? ;D There are 7 shows floating around. This ain't the best one.

I have a problem with this one:

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It's a huge cast

I would have been fine with just the brothers' story.

It's cinematic. But made me feel sleepy, parang droned yung mood ng show.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jul 21, 2006 at 12:23 PM
Hehe, droned nga ang mood. Plus, it starts during an eclipse. Saw five already. I like all of them so far: Traveler, Shark, Jericho, The Nine, and The Class. Any feedback on the other two? Runaway and Hidden Palms. Also, read that they leaked Secrets in a Small Town [sic].
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Jul 21, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Also, read that they leaked Secrets in a Small Town [sic].

"Picking that up" right now. That's apparently all you're going to see of the show, since the pilot wasn't picked up by ABC after all.

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Any feedback on the other two? Runaway and Hidden Palms

Hidden Palms is very Kevin Williamson. Similar in tone to Wasteland/Dawson's Creek, but more urban. I'm on the fence with it. Rules of Engagement is also out already. Just started the episode, but it stars "David Puddy" and "Joey's geeky nephew." Hmm...

Whoa, this has gone off-topic. Sorry!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jul 22, 2006 at 04:34 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Mr. Hankey! Might pass those up siguro. Picking up Runaway na lang based on CrUzAC[k]H's recommendation.

On topic, that son of Ali Larter might soon be typecasted as a wonder kid. He's also in Lady in the Water.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Jul 23, 2006 at 09:01 PM
Did anybody else catch the Asian Backstreet Boys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2BZwwgKF2s) reference in the Pilot?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jul 23, 2006 at 10:08 PM
That was hilarious. The creators said the original pilot was supposedly two hours but it will premiere as a one hour. Greg Grunberg was relieved he was not in the final version of the pilot. He playfully remarked in Comic Con that he was superstitious about being in pilots. We all know what happened to him in Lost.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Aug 14, 2006 at 01:12 PM
By the way, the pilot episode will be made available online starting Sept 1. That is, if you guys haven't already downloaded it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Sep 23, 2006 at 06:25 PM
One series that I am really anticipating is Heroes. The series premier will be on Sept. 25 and here is the website:  http://www.heroes.nbc.com/

I absolutely love the concept as it mirrors J Michael Straczynski's Rising Stars comic book.

Some critics are already labeling this as the fall's worst new show:

You could watch the first few episodes of Heroes, or you could repeatedly hit yourself on the head with a brick. The effect is surprisingly similar. (Chicago Tribune)

...but I actually dug the pilot. It certainly appealed to the geek in me.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Oct 18, 2006 at 12:28 AM
Anyone else following the show? I was sold from the Pilot, but this last episode just blew me away.

*SPOILERS*

I didn't think that Hiro had to look all Terminator-slash-Samurai-like in that final scene. The writers must be thinking that the show would go for the long run (and I'm hoping that that's the case), because Hiro can't possibly learn English and grow a wicked soul patch in 5 weeks' time (just in time for New York's destruction, which I suppose is the reason for his visit to the younger Petrelli). That is, unless he travels through time and gets some language lessons.

But, godd*mn, the show just gets more and more interesting.

And how the hell can Creepy Dad Guy be in so many places with such little time in between trips? Teleporter much?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Oct 18, 2006 at 11:26 AM
With the ratings it's been pulling in, expecting it to run for quite some time is not that much of a stretch. And with their way of not showing anything yet means the writers know it.

Surprisingly, that's what I'm digging about the show. That they're not blowing their wad to please the kiddies. They're taking their sweet time in establishing each of the characters first, what each of their motivations are and what not.

Also, Nikki's powers are clearer now. A lot of talk has been going around regarding what her powers may actually be. Initially, I thought that she can create a very powerful double which can get rid of anybody who tries to cross her. But in light of what this episode has shown, that may not be exactly right. While she can indeed create a double, they may not be able to exist in the same physical plane at the same time. Whenever her double comes into play, she turns dormant and is possibly stored in the nearest reflective surface. Think schizophernia, but with the half of a DNA double helix:

(http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9945/tattoodh3.th.jpg) (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tattoodh3.jpg)

Take note of that symbol kiddies. It's going to be popping up more in future episodes.


And Hiro and Ando are my favorite characters on the show so far. So hell yeah, I'm buying the Futuristic Matrix Hiro.
Title: Heroes
Post by: demented_angel on Nov 06, 2006 at 08:45 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d9/Heroes_title_card.png/300px-Heroes_title_card.png)


it's a new series on nbc before grey's anatomy, i've heard good news about this show

click here (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 06, 2006 at 11:01 AM
I just got Episode 6 last week so I think it's still going strong. I've only watched up to the 3rd episode and I really am hooked. I really can't help but be reminded of J. Michael Straczynski's Rising Stars when I watch Heroes as it handles the superhero mythos with the same amount of drama and "humanity". Agree with Phobos in that it is a good thing the show is not rushing the "superhero" aspect of the characters. It really makes you feel more for the the characters and, as I've said, further humanizes them.

By the way, I've seen both the Pilot that appeared a few months ago and the Pilot that was broadcast on TV -- there were a number of changes between the two, most notably in the scene where they saw the artist on the floor (the original pilot had a far more gruesome scene) and in the final scene between the two brothers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Nov 06, 2006 at 12:48 PM
pinalabas ba ito sa studio23?
parang familiar kase
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 06, 2006 at 03:50 PM
If you can't get enough of Heroes check out Producer-Director Greg Beeman's blog for an inside look. It's a good read with a lot of extras like this one:

 (http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc414/th_99552_hayden_122_414lo.jpg) (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=99552_hayden_122_414lo.jpg)

http://www.gregbeeman.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Nov 07, 2006 at 01:10 PM
Just saw the pilot...its interesting.....another TV show...another good find.. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Nov 14, 2006 at 05:27 PM
What a brilliant friggin' episode.

Mr. Bennet's apparent face turn surprised the hell out of me. Who knew he had good intentions all along? He's still a major douche though.

By the way, I suggest that you guys avoid finding out which actor will be playing Syler. It's a cool casting choice. I would have been really glad and surprised once he showed up, only if I didn't know who was playing the character. Stupid IMDB.[/Spoiler]
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 16, 2006 at 04:07 PM
Great writing for this episode. It really propelled the plot. Jeph Loeb's fingerprints on this episode is all over the place. Can't wait for the next episode, as well as episode 10. I've read somewhere that Episode 11 will be a filler episode -a flashback on what happened to the characters before they started manifesting their powers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Nov 16, 2006 at 04:19 PM
It's been implied that Eden also has powers. From what I've seen, it is to convince men to do anything she wants. For normal people, this power is also known as boobies.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 16, 2006 at 04:36 PM
I like Eden. She's the femme fatale Laura from Brick
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 20, 2006 at 11:26 AM
The hit NBC series has tapped Star Trek icon George Takei to play the father of Hiro Nakamura, the plucky Japanese office worker who happens to be able to bend the space-time continuum.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20061117/en_tv_eo/fed133ee-2545-4600-8073-0a626192faf0
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 20, 2006 at 12:54 PM
Monday na naman! By tuesday afternoon we get to watch the next episode. I can't wait!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Nov 22, 2006 at 10:36 AM
So the waitress can remember everything she reads?

Now that's just impossible. Everybody knows that women can't read!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dibidi on Nov 28, 2006 at 02:35 PM
I can't wait to watch Heroes my yahoo group just had a marathon on this series and they said it was remarkable.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Nov 28, 2006 at 07:41 PM
Episode.10 - "Six Months Ago"
..finally Sylar was introduced.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Nov 29, 2006 at 09:54 AM
Sean Bean would have put the cream in my jeans (three times!) if he had played Sylar, but hopefully Former 24 Guy could pull it off. He looks douchey enough. Still, it's quite disappointing.

Also, if the mutation is genetic, shouldn't Mohinder have his powers revealed to him soon? Seeing as his sister had some sort of ability as well. Nikki and D.L. have their freak son, and then there's the Petrelli brothers...

This seems like the perfect opportunity for the show to take a break, though that's something I wouldn't want. Any word on the show's schedule?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Nov 29, 2006 at 03:45 PM
Next week's episode, Fallout is the show's so-called fall finale. The show will return on 22 Jan 2007.

This penultimate episode was a step down from last week's suspenseful turn. Too bad Sean Bean did not play Sylar after all. Bad IMDB!

I was hesitant to watch this show after I heard Milo Ventimiglia was in it. I'm surprised he has become less annoying. It's that Suresh kid that has to go! The show would have been better off with the senior Suresh. And, how can you not love a show that has Nora Zehetner?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Nov 29, 2006 at 04:05 PM
I just realized I don't know how Chandra Suresh was able to compile that list of Supers. Did he have some kind of an international database of genetic profiles?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 29, 2006 at 05:42 PM
I just realized I don't know how Chandra Suresh was able to compile that list of Supers. Did he have some kind of an international database of genetic profiles?

I remember the human genome project mentioned in a previous episode. BTW, that Eden girl is really cute. She can be Rachel Bilson's lost twin sister.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Nov 29, 2006 at 05:58 PM
yikes we'll have to wait for almost 2 months!!!  ang tagal!!!   >:(


Next week's episode, Fallout is the show's so-called fall finale. The show will return on 22 Jan 2007.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 29, 2006 at 06:07 PM
I thought Episode 11 was the filler episode, apparently, it is Episode 10. I was already expecting this filler episode to be not as gripping as Episode 9 but it still gave the characters the opportunity to become more well rounded -- at least we now know how Sylar came to be.

Ah two months! In the meantime I'll just preoccupy myself with Day Break and I'll also start watching Jericho.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Nov 29, 2006 at 06:16 PM
It also makes me a sad panda that the writers didn't even bother looking into Isaac's past in the last episode, which leads me to believe that he will die a horrible and painful death one of these days. Maybe Sylar will get to him, after all? (Just as Hiro had seen in the future?)

Even Ando's getting more screen time than Isaac. But the guy playing Ando still isn't listed as a main actor, and that leads to me believe that he, too, will die a horrible and painful death soon.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Nov 29, 2006 at 07:43 PM
Ah two months! In the meantime I'll just preoccupy myself with Day Break and I'll also start watching Jericho.

Off-topic:

Jericho is as silly and addictive as Prison Break but at least it goes somewhere every episode. Been sucked into it since I saw the haunting pilot. Been hesitant to try Day Break since most ABC shows most often disappoint me. Heroes' hiatus may make me change my mind.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: motion55 on Nov 30, 2006 at 11:32 AM
A lot of these shows take a Christmas break. Anyway, I was hesitant to take on another mutant/special power TV series but Heroes' good reviews convinced me to give it a try.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Dec 06, 2006 at 07:04 AM
Alright so I'm predicting Mr. Bennet will transform himself into a dinosaur and be the next big baddie.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Dec 06, 2006 at 07:21 AM
is epsiode 10 the last one before the break?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 06, 2006 at 07:28 AM
I think it's up to Episode 11. Not too sure though
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: daigoro on Dec 06, 2006 at 07:42 AM
I agree that out of the four episodes i watched, the concept is very much like Rising Stars which apparently is also being developed as a series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Dec 06, 2006 at 12:59 PM
is epsiode 10 the last one before the break?

Episode 11 - "Fallout" will be the last then will continue on Jan.22, 2007
why so looooonngggg???
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Dec 06, 2006 at 01:36 PM
wow.....nabitin ako sa 10...im still looking for the 11th.... :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 06, 2006 at 02:18 PM
I agree that out of the four episodes i watched, the concept is very much like Rising Stars which apparently is also being developed as a series.

where'd you get the news regarding Rising Stars? Can you post it here? I'm excited about that prospect.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Dec 06, 2006 at 02:26 PM
It was the 11th episode.

Also, is this Mr. Isaac's "Exploding Man?"

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6813/explodingmanow1.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: daigoro on Dec 06, 2006 at 05:32 PM
where'd you get the news regarding Rising Stars? Can you post it here? I'm excited about that prospect.

In EW's article: http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1555891_3_0_,00.html
Special Report: Is ''Heroes'' helping or hurting the comic book biz?
Excerpt:
In a way, Straczynski will get the chance to put his belief to the test: In something of a full-circle twist, he and Spider-Man director Sam Raimi are currently shopping a Rising Stars TV series to the networks. ''There's been a lot of interest in that property, since it's kind of the wellspring for a lot of projects that put the superhero genre into a mainstream setting, and they kind of want to go back to the source of that wellspring. The cool part of the story, of course, being that the group of characters — good or evil — all grew up together, with all of the secrets and resentments of any such group. And whoever gets the show gets 113 superheroes for licensing. So it's going to be a question of who gets it first.''

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Dec 07, 2006 at 09:15 AM
Just finished the 11th episode....bitin na naman....why two months????  a new hero will be introduced on the next episode.....
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: motion55 on Dec 07, 2006 at 09:51 AM
Heroes is turning out to be much like Lost. Always, the viewer is held in suspense at the end so that he or she will be obliged to come back for the next episode. Eventually suspense fatigue will set in and the show will lose its ardent followers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Miguel^ on Dec 07, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Hiro is teh bomb.....Oh wait Peter is the "bomb."  hehehe

Seriously, I can't wait for them show Hiro's transformation from office worker to bad ass ninja dude with big samurai on his back.


On episode 10.  Nice background music at Peter's party "Lily Allen - Smile."


OT:  My take on lost - Season 1 was great, season 2 was kinda cool, but Season 3 well what a disappointment.  I stopped watching after 2 or 3 episodes.

Looks like everybody has a thing or two on the same list.  Jericho, Day break, and heroes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Dec 09, 2006 at 06:03 PM
I know we've been burned before by the whole Sean Bean=Sylar casting issue, but I'm hoping that the news I heard about who's playing the new hero in next year's episode actually turns out to be true. Because it is truly boner inducing.

Also, if you want to find out what happened to Sylar after this episode, check out the online comic.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Dec 17, 2006 at 01:52 AM
Heroes received 2 major nominations in this year's Golden Globe Awards: one for "Best Television Series - Drama", and the other for everyone's favorite supa hiro, Masi Oka, as "Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Series, Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television"
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Jan 07, 2007 at 05:53 PM
Starts January 31, Wednesday, 9:00PM on StarWorld.

Edited to add: But apparently not in the Philippines
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Jan 15, 2007 at 08:23 PM
heroes won best new drama series in the recent people's choice awards
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Jan 16, 2007 at 01:19 PM
Sayang..di nanalo si Masi Oka sa Golden Globes....dapat he bent time, and replaced the winner's envelope... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 16, 2007 at 01:36 PM
Sayang..di nanalo si Masi Oka sa Golden Globes....dapat he bent time, and replaced the winner's envelope... ;D ;D ;D

HAHAHAHA!!!!  THAT WAS HILARIOUS BRO!!!

This series is really good!  Just thought I'd watch the initial episode but I got hooked.  Watched it na until episode 11 since Friday!  What a marathon!

Galing!!! 

 ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on Jan 20, 2007 at 09:41 AM
Based on this blog (http://pinoytvjunkie.livejournal.com/2007/01/12/), Heroes will start airing on Star World on 1/31, except in the Philippines??!! 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 20, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Based on this blog (http://pinoytvjunkie.livejournal.com/2007/01/12/), Heroes will start airing on Star World on 1/31, except in the Philippines??!! 

HUH!!!  This is a very good show!  What's up with that.  I'm sure this will be shown here.  Maybe Studio 23 or another station got exclusive rights or something!!!

But this is indeed an awesome show.  I got hooked with this one.

 :o
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Jan 20, 2007 at 06:20 PM
That's odd. If you go to StarTV.com, though, and access the program schedule for the Philippines for January 31, Heroes is still listed as airing at 9:00PM (http://www.startv.com/schedule.html?country=PH&year=2007&month=1&day=31):

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1160/startvsched1071ra.th.jpg) (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startvsched1071ra.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 23, 2007 at 06:31 AM
Just caught this on Sci-fi channel recently. It was good, but i'm not yet hooked at the moment. One thing's for sure: I'll certainly watch this for that hot girl in the cheerleader outfit...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on Jan 23, 2007 at 01:29 PM
....and believe it or not, she's going the way of Hillary Duff and Lindsay Lohan as she's going to release a pop album in May 8, 2007!! :-\
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 23, 2007 at 08:01 PM
My most favorite actor in the world did appear in Episode 12!! Everything's all right in the world. A great episode to mark its return as this will prove to be a pivotal point in the storyline.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jan 24, 2007 at 01:07 PM
....and believe it or not, she's going the way of Hillary Duff and Lindsay Lohan as she's going to release a pop album in May 8, 2007!! :-\

well, if paris can dish out a decent pop album... why can't she? LOL.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: CrUzSACK on Jan 24, 2007 at 03:35 PM
Heroes will be on Crime/Suspense. Clips/promos are said to be airing but haven't seen any. OT: The new season of Survivor will be on C/S too (not on S23 anymore, they lost the bid apparently).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Jan 24, 2007 at 07:45 PM
My most favorite actor in the world did appear in Episode 12!! Everything's all right in the world. A great episode to mark its return as this will prove to be a pivotal point in the storyline.
cant get the copy of episode 12.....the file i get keeps on showing episode 11....arghh!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 24, 2007 at 07:47 PM
always try to get the VTV distributed files. It's the one with [VTV] on the file name.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 24, 2007 at 07:49 PM
cant get the copy of episode 12.....the file i get keeps on showing episode 11....arghh!!!

PM me if you want me to point you in the direction where I get mine.

 ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garfield_3199 on Jan 24, 2007 at 10:27 PM
My most favorite actor in the world did appear in Episode 12!! Everything's all right in the world. A great episode to mark its return as this will prove to be a pivotal point in the storyline.

indie, can't recognize the actor. Sino yun?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 24, 2007 at 10:51 PM
I don't know if this still needs a Spoiler tag since the episode's four days old and the new actors are already listed in IMDB. Anyway, I'll just err on the side of caution and put preemptive spoiler tags.


Anyway, the actor is Christopher Eccleston. ;) Lemme see, he's Dr. Who (I hear the reason why he did not return to the series was because of the offer to do Heroes), the husband of Nicole Kidman in The Others, and the Duke of Norfolk in Shekhar Kapur's Elizabeth. He also appeared in two Danny Boyle films -- he was the nerdy banker in Shallow Graves and the demented major in 28 Days Later.


Sorry, big fan talaga ako hehe.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 25, 2007 at 01:51 AM
I think he also starred opposite Kate Winslet in Jude...

Hm, he was in 'Godsend'? Didn't notice it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 25, 2007 at 02:02 AM
Weirdly enough I'm waiting for him and Helen Mirren to be cast in a future Harry Potter film. A large number of British actors that I have high admiration for have already appeared in all four HP movies already, and with Helena Bonham Carter appearing in the fifth movie.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 25, 2007 at 02:09 AM
Him, and Tom Wilkinson and Mark Addy and Brendan Gleason  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 25, 2007 at 02:18 AM
Brendan Gleason's already in Goblet of Fire. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Jan 25, 2007 at 07:33 AM
Hm, he was in 'Godsend'? Didn't notice it.

Maybe you didn't see him.

Because he's invisible!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 25, 2007 at 09:04 AM
It was a good thing I wasn't drinking coffee or I would've sprayed it all over my monitor. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 25, 2007 at 05:07 PM
Heroes will be on Crime/Suspense. Clips/promos are said to be airing but haven't seen any. OT: The new season of Survivor will be on C/S too (not on S23 anymore, they lost the bid apparently).

Apparently.  Just glanced at the trailer of Heroes on Star Movies and I saw a message being flashed saying.....

NOT AVAILABLE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

I guess we have to wait longer for it to be shown here in PI.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Jan 25, 2007 at 10:11 PM
This is bizarre. Are local media companies like Solar Entertainment now allowed to block content from overseas cable TV stations? Bad part about this (if true) is that we'll be subjected to endless clips of the show every hour once it's airing on C/S.  :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 26, 2007 at 04:09 AM
Maybe you didn't see him.

Because he's invisible!

He's the bearded guy Peter Petrelli saw taking the mobile phones of the people in the sidewalk?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jan 26, 2007 at 04:40 AM
exactly... he's "invisible man".
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 26, 2007 at 06:58 AM
Hm, doesn't look much Christopher Eccleston, eh. More of a bearded Billy Joel hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Jan 26, 2007 at 08:37 AM
Wasn't he supposed to have appeared earlier than ep. 12?

I mean I'm not sure if I can recall seeing him already when Peter had his initial premonition that HE was the one that would cause the explosion (Ep. 10 or 11). I think he was seen there laughing.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Jan 26, 2007 at 09:35 AM
He's actually been there since episode 1.

You remember that voiceover you keep hearing at the start of each episode?

That's not a voiceover.

DUN DUN DUHHHHNN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Jan 26, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Really? All this time, I thought it was Mohinder Suresh.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Jan 26, 2007 at 01:00 PM
Wooosh!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 26, 2007 at 02:28 PM
Really? All this time, I thought it was Mohinder Suresh.

Me too!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 26, 2007 at 02:34 PM
Wooosh!


"Will you turn it down!"

Wooosh!

 ;D :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Jan 26, 2007 at 04:06 PM
Paper, People, Performance. Primatech, since 1962.
http://www.primatechpaper.com/index.shtml
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Jan 26, 2007 at 04:11 PM
seen it.......I mean episode 12......how can I see the invisible man?  hehehehe  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Jan 26, 2007 at 06:08 PM
Me too!

May I should have included the [/joke] tag. But I thought it needed no explanation.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jan 26, 2007 at 11:49 PM
Wasn't he supposed to have appeared earlier than ep. 12?

I mean I'm not sure if I can recall seeing him already when Peter had his initial premonition that HE was the one that would cause the explosion (Ep. 10 or 11). I think he was seen there laughing.

he wasn't in the earlier versions of peter's "burning man premonition"... i just checked... it was in episode 11.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Jan 26, 2007 at 11:50 PM
Anyone else bugged by the fact that Eccleston is listed only as a guest star? Because I think we'll be getting a Peter Stormare/Prison Break treatment here.

If The Invisible Man is just as vital to the story as any other regular (which I think he will be, even moreso than The Two-Timing Black Chick), he should at least promoted to regular cast. Listing him as a guest pretty much tells us that he'll be out of the picture soon. Dead by next season, maybe?

But I guess that if they indeed listed him as a regular and killed him off soon, that'd p*ss the bejesus out of me as well. So I'm torn. And what I just wrote is now completely pointless.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 27, 2007 at 07:28 AM
Anyone else bugged by the fact that Eccleston is listed only as a guest star? Because I think we'll be getting a Peter Stormare/Prison Break treatment here.

If The Invisible Man is just as vital to the story as any other regular (which I think he will be, even moreso than The Two-Timing Black Chick), he should at least promoted to regular cast. Listing him as a guest pretty much tells us that he'll be out of the picture soon. Dead by next season, maybe?

But I guess that if they indeed listed him as a regular and killed him off soon, that'd p*ss the bejesus out of me as well. So I'm torn. And what I just wrote is now completely pointless.

Carry on.

Hahahaha!!!  Good analysis!  I was thinking the same thing.  You started out strongly believeing in something then contradicted yourself in the end.

In essence, we ended up in the same place where we started.   ;D :D

Hiro is really a blast!!!!!

After stealing the samurai and discovering it was fake...he decided to return it still!!!  That Hiro is a blast!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Jan 27, 2007 at 08:16 AM
Well, could be, but then Mitch Pileggi was listed as guest starring for eight seasons in the X-Files before his name was added to the regular cast before the series ended in 2002. And yet, he survived that eight years as a supporting cast.

Just my two cents  ;D

We just hope that the invisible dude makes it till the series ends...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jan 31, 2007 at 07:12 AM
oh yeah... jessalyn gilsig! HOT! (pun intended.)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RDyENT on Jan 31, 2007 at 07:41 AM
have u tried going to the primatech paper (http://www.primatechpaper.com)  website where HRG works? Be patient, subscribe to the newsletter and it will come. ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Feb 01, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Claire found her real mom, whois a firestarter.  Hiro is captured by the Big Boss....his Father!!!  Mica unveils his secret.....and another cliffhanger in our hands!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Feb 04, 2007 at 09:03 PM
1 day to go til ep13!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 04, 2007 at 09:15 PM
1 day to go til ep13!!!  ;D

you must mean 14, 13 was last week ago entitled The Fix
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 05, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Cool cameo in the 16th episode of Heroes.

"The Man"

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2349/pics002heroes1dv9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9910/pics002heroes2lt2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 06, 2007 at 06:22 PM
OMG!!

claire is a petrelli! ... so peter saved his own niece. coolness!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Feb 06, 2007 at 08:02 PM
and peter is not only a mimic but also a ________ ...watch it!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Feb 08, 2007 at 02:29 PM
Now Sylar has a match!!!   This just keeps getting better!!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 08, 2007 at 05:24 PM
freaky thing is ... what'll happen when peter comes close to sylar? will he absorb the abilities sylar has absorbed??

which also begs the question ... does sylar have to kill the person to assimilate his/her abilties, or does he do that simply for pleasure? (methinks the former because he wasn't able to get eden's skill since she killed herself.)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Feb 08, 2007 at 05:45 PM
He has to eat their brains to assimilate their powers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 09, 2007 at 02:12 PM
OMG!!

claire is a petrelli! ... so peter saved his own niece. coolness!

I would've wanted them to have sex first and THEN find out about it later. That would've been awesome!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Feb 09, 2007 at 04:02 PM
I would've wanted them to have sex first and THEN find out about it later. That would've been awesome!
hahahaha!!!!  that would been really........funny and awesome... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 09, 2007 at 04:33 PM
Now Sylar has a match!!!   This just keeps getting better!!!   ;D ;D

Since Peter Petrelli can not only absorb other's special abilities but also....

retain them...it is safe to assume he already has Sylar's telekinetic powers right?  Since they already had physical contact.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 09, 2007 at 04:58 PM
I would've wanted them to have sex first and THEN find out about it later. That would've been awesome!

It's early.  It can still happen.

 :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 09, 2007 at 08:41 PM
I would've wanted them to have sex first and THEN find out about it later. That would've been awesome!

It's a good thing you don't write for the series, it would have been a (F word modifier) sick soap opera.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 09, 2007 at 09:52 PM
I would've wanted them to have sex first and THEN find out about it later. That would've been awesome!

someone's been surfing for way too much pron AND watching too many episodes of "general hospital". LOL.

for something like that ... i'll watch "fashion house" instead.  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 09, 2007 at 10:00 PM
Come on, don't tell me that the last scene was not actually stepping into General Hospital territory. It may have had that Ooh! factor but break it down into its basic components and that was formulaic soap opera.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Feb 09, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Come on, don't tell me that the last scene was not actually stepping into General Hospital territory. It may have had that Ooh! factor but break it down into its basic components and that was formulaic soap opera.

The only thing missing now is a character who has the special power of faking amnesia.  ;D  A bit OT but those familiar with Wonderfalls from producer Bryan Fuller should rewatch the sixth episode of Heroes, the wax lion is on Micah's night stand.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 10, 2007 at 03:03 AM
Come on, don't tell me that the last scene was not actually stepping into General Hospital territory. It may have had that Ooh! factor but break it down into its basic components and that was formulaic soap opera.

so true... milo even had that "dramatic pause" look that's sooooo common in daytime soaps. LOL. i wonder if they're trying to win over a wider audience with all the drama. they've won the "fanboys" over... time to try luring a different demographic altogether. :P heh heh.

the wax lion is on Micah's night stand.

hey! i missed that. gonna have to rewatch it. thanks for the tip.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Feb 11, 2007 at 01:40 AM
NBC Press Release for Heroes episodes this February:

Chapter 14: "Distractions", Feb. 5
Hiro (Masi Oka) struggles to make his father (guest star George Takei), a corporate tycoon, and ambitious sister (guest star Saemi Nakamura), understand his new heroic path in life. Niki (Ali Larter) has a chance to be with D.L (Leonard Roberts) and Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey) again -- but will she really be with them? Claude (guest star Chris Eccleston) attempts to teach Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) to harness his abilities, but the process could shatter Peter's faith in those closest to him. Determined to find her birth mother (guest star Jessalyn Gilsig, "Nip/Tuck"), Claire (Hayden Panettiere) makes her way to a trailer park in Texas. Meanwhile, Sylar (guest star Zachary Quinto) makes a shocking move against H.R.G. (Jack Coleman) -- and his family.

Chapter 15: "Run!", Feb. 12
While the scandalous truth about Claire's real father is revealed, her adoptive mother (guest star Ashley Crow) faces a crisis. Matt (Greg Grunberg) takes a job as a bodyguard for a crooked attorney (guest star Aron Malsky), which puts him in the crosshairs of Linderman's very familiar new assassin. Hiro and Ando (guest star James Kyson Lee) return to Las Vegas to find the sword, but get sidetracked by a damsel in distress (guest star Missi Pyle). Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) finds someone on the list and unknowingly puts himself in grave danger. Meanwhile, Simone (Tawny Cypress) turns to some unlikely help in her and Nathan's (Adrian Pasdar) struggle to find Peter.

Chapter 16: "Unexpected", Feb. 19
Peter painfully learns that someone close may have betrayed him and Claude. Matt's world spirals out of control when radioactive man Ted Sprague (guest star Matthew John Armstrong) and Hana Gitelman (guest star Stana Katic), a fierce young woman with "wireless" mental abilities, drop into his life. After blood is spilled, Hiro makes a difficult decision about his mission.

Chapter 17: "Company Men", Feb. 26
H.R.G.'s past catches up to him as Matt and Ted Sprague (guest star Matthew John Armstrong), come to Texas looking for answers, and take him, his wife, son and Claire hostage -- leading to a tragic, explosive showdown. Secrets are revealed and new threats to the "heroes" are introduced. Eric Roberts guest-stars.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 11, 2007 at 10:07 AM
Just the sort of things, I don't wanna read.

 ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 11, 2007 at 12:39 PM
I tried not to look when I saw the first sentence. The post should be put in spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Feb 11, 2007 at 09:09 PM
um, no.

They're not spoilers...they're the episode decscriptions that networks release to numerous publications like TV Guide, which are similar to comics synopses that are published in monthly distributor listings.

Nothing is spoiled, save for guest appearances--besides, why would NBC put huge spoilers in their press releases? No one will watch if they do that.  But what the hey, I edited the post and put 'em in spoiler tags anyway... ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 14, 2007 at 09:41 AM
15 and counting.

One sexy assasin.

An ex-cop with the millions. Traiterous henchman mangled in two. One good throw hits the target and a looming tagteam from hell.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: coco_men182 on Feb 14, 2007 at 12:19 PM
This was definitely an improvement from the rigoddamndiculously boring previous episode, and proves why LA Cop Guy is my most favoritest character evar!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 21, 2007 at 01:37 PM
This thread is dead and so is...

(http://9thwonders.com/gallery/simone.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 22, 2007 at 05:15 AM
shame... and just as she was starting to get easy in the eyes. (love the blue eyes... she should've been in the running for the role of ororo munro...but that's another comic book altogether. LOL.)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 22, 2007 at 07:14 AM
Well with all of Peter's powers...he can certainly go back in time and prevent her from.....

........being shot!   :o
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Feb 22, 2007 at 09:45 AM
Hahaha...natawa ako ke Sylar...nahilo!!!  hahahaha...ang takaw kasi sa powers eh...yan...eh di nahilo sa ingay.....but seriously, its beginning to be a face-off between Sylar and Peter, paramihan ng abilities.....and I noticed in the last episode...Sanders family is missing
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 22, 2007 at 10:34 AM
Wasn't she supposed to be there when Peter goes Kaboom?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 22, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Wasn't she supposed to be there when Peter goes Kaboom?

I can't recall.  If that is so...Peter must have used Hiro's powers to go back in time and save her.  I don't remember a new ability of healing was introduced.

 ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 22, 2007 at 11:03 AM
she could be a hero all along too, right?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Feb 22, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Tawny Cypress (Simone) revealed in an interview that she's still due to appear in a couple more episodes and hinted that another character is also scheduled to die. I hope it's Mohinder. Can a scientist be that naive and dense?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RDyENT on Feb 26, 2007 at 09:43 PM
Episode 17 Company Man aired earlier in Canada. Super Ganda! Daming revelations about HRG
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: jekoy on Feb 26, 2007 at 09:49 PM
RPN 9 will have this on March. Seems like that they have gotten the full rights kaya wala sa Star World Pinas.  >:(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 27, 2007 at 03:20 AM
just when you wanna hate the guy ... the pull off an episode like this. LOL.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: jm33_babe on Feb 27, 2007 at 07:17 AM
RPN 9 will have this on March. Seems like that they have gotten the full rights kaya wala sa Star World Pinas.  >:(

naku baka kapareho ng CSI NY and Miami ang video... :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Feb 27, 2007 at 08:11 AM
episode 17 is available now in  mininova (http://www.mininova.org/tor/598473)

Global Television, a Canadian privately owned television network. Has just shown Heroes 1 DAY AHEAD of the US markets. Cool  8)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: jekoy on Feb 27, 2007 at 10:46 AM
naku baka kapareho ng CSI NY and Miami ang video... :P

you noticed that too? i was wondering about that, as well. their colors are saturated and the screen seemed stretched
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 27, 2007 at 12:34 PM
Great episode. I'm watching this again on Father's Day. Mukhang father din ang gumawa ng script, this is one of the most truthful depictions of paternal love I've seen in ages. Truthful as in accurate depiction of love, not truthful as in literally. Now, where's that boy of mine, Dada needs a hug. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 27, 2007 at 01:31 PM
you noticed that too? i was wondering about that, as well. their colors are saturated and the screen seemed stretched

it will look right if you have a widescreen TV. they seem to be airing the widescreen broadcast copies.

episode 17 is available now in  mininova (http://www.mininova.org/tor/598473)

Global Television, a Canadian privately owned television network. Has just shown Heroes 1 DAY AHEAD of the US markets. Cool  8)

and it seems it's going to be this way 'til the end of the season...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Feb 27, 2007 at 05:19 PM
Just got caught up to the current episode, doing a marathon starting last Saturday. It was rather slow in the middle episodes but it has since picked up again. I suppose the season finale will be the explosion/non-explosion of NY.

I was also thinking--given what we think is a limited number of them--how improbable it was that 2 superpowered individuals got to hook up by chance to produce the next generation of superbeings. Unless Evolution plays with loaded dice.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Feb 27, 2007 at 10:41 PM
best episode  i think  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Feb 27, 2007 at 11:25 PM
i agree with everyone. it was wonderfully written and i loved everything about "company man"... UNTIL the last part where he calls her "care bear". LOL. it just seemed way too saccharine-y for me. but hey, it works. i can imagine a few not-so-dry eyes during that last scene.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Feb 28, 2007 at 12:14 AM
HRG called her daughter Claire bear.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 28, 2007 at 12:34 AM
By far, the best series episode I have seen since X-Files' Clyde Bruckman's Last Repose.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Feb 28, 2007 at 04:15 AM
...and that X-Files episode won an Emmy for writing and Peter Boyle's guest role. I wish Heroes' Company Man would at least get nominated for writing. (Just found out that the episode was written by Bryan Fuller, who also wrote episodes for Dead Like Me and Wonderfalls). HRG (Jack Coleman) has come a long way from Dynasty.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 28, 2007 at 10:24 AM
 :'(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 28, 2007 at 10:33 AM
...and that X-Files episode won an Emmy for writing and Peter Boyle's guest role. I wish Heroes' Company Man would at least get nominated for writing. (Just found out that the episode was written by Bryan Fuller, who also wrote episodes for Dead Like Me and Wonderfalls). HRG (Jack Coleman) has come a long way from Dynasty.

And I'm hoping this would also at least get noticed by critics. The script was quite adept in bridging flashbacks, which any writer will tell you is one of the worst plot devices you can use because it is easy to make it either cheesy or unintelligible. The acting was quite unexpected too. I know that Hayden Panetierre is a good actress but Jack Coleman surprised me... and Christopher is in this one too!

After that jaw dropping ending last week, this episode really kicked it up a notch. A great save since the three episodes prior to the last two were ho-hum affairs. I'm getting the feeling that the episodes are also being treated like comic book issues, where you have the boring fillers that actually signal something really good is about to happen in a future issue. This one is really for the Fan Boys.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: atomicat10 on Feb 28, 2007 at 11:01 AM
Can someone please explain to me why they suddenly stopped caring about Eric Roberts' character near the end?

He re-appears all of a sudden, comes in with guns blazing then everything is cool again.  Maybe it all comes with trying to deliver too much in one episode but his latter parts came to me unnatural to the point of annoyance :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Feb 28, 2007 at 11:44 AM
And I'm hoping this would also at least get noticed by critics. The script was quite adept in bridging flashbacks, which any writer will tell you is one of the worst plot devices you can use because it is easy to make it either cheesy or unintelligible. The acting was quite unexpected too. I know that Hayden Panetierre is a good actress but Jack Coleman surprised me... and Christopher is in this one too!

After that jaw dropping ending last week, this episode really kicked it up a notch. A great save since the three episodes prior to the last two were ho-hum affairs. I'm getting the feeling that the episodes are also being treated like comic book issues, where you have the boring fillers that actually signal something really good is about to happen in a future issue. This one is really for the Fan Boys.

Pre, you have to check out Greg Beeman's blog (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/), the show's director & producer. It's not your typical behind the scenes look. His views are often from a technical perspective but manages to be an enjoyable read. The latest post discusses Company Man in detail and includes an interview with the episode's editor.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kings5504 on Mar 01, 2007 at 09:23 AM
Re: Heroes airing one day early up north

and it seems it's going to be this way 'til the end of the season...

Thank you Black Donnelys! :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Mar 01, 2007 at 11:59 AM
great episode....
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garfield_3199 on Mar 01, 2007 at 10:23 PM
the best episode for me, so far...

sniff...sniff
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 05, 2007 at 07:29 PM
Bitin!

I wonder if Peter can get Haitian man's powers or if Haitian man's powers can block Peter's (or am I not understanding HM's powers correctly?).

I wonder if Linderman has powers.

I wonder if Peter can use multiple powers at a time or he has to switch from one to another like Ultra Boy. ;D


BTW, would anyone know how many episodes are left?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 05, 2007 at 08:55 PM

I wonder if Peter can use multiple powers at a time or he has to switch from one to another like Ultra Boy. ;D

From how the invisible man explained Peter's powers while he was training him, he can only use one ability at a time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 05, 2007 at 09:06 PM
uhr... isn't ultra boy like that too? heh heh... only 1 superman power at a time.  ;D

oh yeah... mohinder rocks!

another reason this episode rocks... CALIGULA! :p
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 05, 2007 at 09:13 PM
I'm not familiar with ultra boy.  But I did remember the invisible man telling Peter

"I will teach you how to pull them out one at a time."...or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: The Stig on Mar 06, 2007 at 01:32 AM
BTW, would anyone know how many episodes are left?

After this one only 5 left. Bad news is we all have to wait til April for the next one.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 06, 2007 at 03:33 PM
So that makes it 23 episodes? Alanganin naman, sana 24 na lang.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 06, 2007 at 03:34 PM
I'm not familiar with ultra boy.  But I did remember the invisible man telling Peter

"I will teach you how to pull them out one at a time."...or something to that effect.

If that's what he said then it may or may not mean he can only use one at a time. He may just have meant teaching him one at a time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: The Stig on Mar 06, 2007 at 03:53 PM
So that makes it 23 episodes? Alanganin naman, sana 24 na lang.

YUP

From AICN:

"After tonight, only five more new episodes left, and you can be pretty certain at least three of those will air in May."

I think it was supposed to be the standard 22 eps this season but I guess they decided they needed to add an extra one for closure. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 06, 2007 at 06:42 PM
the next logical question would be when the second season is scheduled to air.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 06, 2007 at 06:47 PM
If that's what he said then it may or may not mean he can only use one at a time. He may just have meant teaching him one at a time.


Actually the way the invisible man said it is that he can only access one ability at a time and if he accidentally draws more than one power, he overloads.  Mohinder Suresh also mentioned to Nathan Petrelli that if Peter manifests all that he has absorbed, then Peter becomes combustible.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 06, 2007 at 06:59 PM
the next logical question would be when the second season is scheduled to air.

TV shows usually start in September.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Mar 06, 2007 at 11:09 PM
oh yeah... mohinder rocks!


He and Simone were unpopular characters. Kudos to the writers for redeeming them. I also admire how they turned Ali Larter's character/s around. Of course, if there's one thing this show does best, it's those damn cliffhangers!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 07, 2007 at 05:18 PM
Just watched episode 18 Parasite!  Of course bitin na naman. 

Peter & Sylar meet again.  Good one touching Peter, Sylar.  He now has all the powers you have!  Mas lamang na sa powers si Peter while Sylar still doesn't have Peter's invisibility, flight & regeneration abilities at the very least.....yet!  We now get a glimpse of how he got the scar future Hiro was talking about
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 07, 2007 at 05:24 PM
but if he has claire's power... bakit may scar??
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 07, 2007 at 05:37 PM
but if he has claire's power... bakit may scar??

Oo nga.  That was what I tried to rationalize also.  We'll know by the next episode...which sadly is allegedly late April pa.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on Mar 07, 2007 at 11:00 PM
but if he has claire's power... bakit may scar??

Nice question... Also there's another inconsistency:

How was Sylar able to stop the IV drip with his telekinetic powers? The curare was supposed to inhibit his ability to use his telekinesis, right? And how come his super hearing powers were not blocked by the drug?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 07, 2007 at 11:04 PM
I think the explanation for the super hearing power is that it is a "passive" kind of power. It's something that is not needed to be called on or conjured like flight or the ability to stop time. If you notice, the woman who had that power couldn't block it too so she resorted to other means of dulling her powers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 08, 2007 at 05:29 AM
i could be wrong, but i think mohinder said the i.v. was to make his hands numb and to disorient him... so he can't use his power(s), not necessarily to stop them. i don't think mohinder was aware he had telekinesis.

unlike peter, sylar can't switch off the abilities he assumes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Mar 08, 2007 at 12:50 PM
Bitin...April 23 is so so far away!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Mar 08, 2007 at 08:14 PM
5 weeks?!! aaarghhh!!! ..... what will i do in 5 weeks?!

more time for us to develop Empathic Power Mimicry, Accelerated Healing/Rapid Cell Regeneration, Flight, Mind Control, Phasing, Induced Radiation Manipulation, Precognition, Scizophrenic Assistance w/ Enhanced Strength, Technopathy, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Teleportation, Space-Time Manipulation, Pyrokinesis, Illusion, Invisibility, Cryokinesis, Dream Manipulation,  Eidetic Memory, Electronic Data Transception, Enhanced Hearing, Intuitive Aptitude, Liquefaction, Mental Manipulation, Persuasion, etc?

whoa...5 weeks to memorize the big words hehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Mar 08, 2007 at 10:24 PM
A guy's ultimate fantasy......Candice the impersonator...........imagine!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 09, 2007 at 12:51 AM
But also potentially a man's worst nightmare, imagine doing the deed with "angelina jolie" and then when you are very near the finish line she transforms into "pokwang" -- aarrgh!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Mar 09, 2007 at 02:05 PM
But also potentially a man's worst nightmare, imagine doing the deed with "angelina jolie" and then when you are very near the finish line she transforms into "pokwang" -- aarrgh!
hahahaha....thats what I would calll....hindi araw araw pwede steak!!!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on Mar 11, 2007 at 10:54 AM
5 weeks?!! aaarghhh!!! ..... what will i do in 5 weeks?!

more time for us to develop Empathic Power Mimicry, Accelerated Healing/Rapid Cell Regeneration, Flight, Mind Control, Phasing, Induced Radiation Manipulation, Precognition, Scizophrenic Assistance w/ Enhanced Strength, Technopathy, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Teleportation, Space-Time Manipulation, Pyrokinesis, Illusion, Invisibility, Cryokinesis, Dream Manipulation,  Eidetic Memory, Electronic Data Transception, Enhanced Hearing, Intuitive Aptitude, Liquefaction, Mental Manipulation, Persuasion, etc?

whoa...5 weeks to memorize the big words hehe ;D ;D

Haha... Nice one. I did try to associate each one with the characters. But what do you call D.L.'s power?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: JAZZ on Mar 11, 2007 at 02:13 PM
Phasing, just like Kitty.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Mar 11, 2007 at 05:47 PM
right right jazz ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Mar 12, 2007 at 01:32 PM
This supposedly premiered last night (Sunday) on local TV at 8pm on RPN. Didn't check though so can't confirm.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Mar 12, 2007 at 07:25 PM
it indeed premiered locally last night in RPN9...now more ppl can relate to what they see in my PC wallpaper  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Mar 12, 2007 at 10:25 PM
ikes April 23 pa ang next episode???  ang talaga!!  sobrang bitin yung epi18!!!   >:(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on Mar 13, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Huge spoiler for Episode 19: ".07%"

Source: http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9944

In the most recent episode, the ubiquitous Linderman made his first appearance, and told Nathan Petrelli that the congressional candidate was destined to be commander in chief. In ".07%" Linderman continues his pitch.
In the scene, Linderman entertains Nathan in an art gallery which showcases his extensive art collection, paintings of the future all, by Isaac Mendez and people like him. Included among the paintings were those of the fictional Japanese warrior Takezo Kensei. "We all have our roles to play in the events to come," Linderman says. "This isn’t just a collection of art. This is a road map. These artists envision a brighter future. Peace, prosperity."
Nathan jabs his finger at a painting of the New York explosion and asks: "Is this your idea of a brighter future?"
"What if I was to tell you that it was?" Linderman replies.

Linderman goes on to explain that he, too, has powers, which came with an audible reaction from the audience. He’d become aware of them years earlier, and banded together with others like him "to make a difference to the world." But some of his comrades in arms lost their way. "Greed set in, and we split apart. And all the good we’d done, well, it amounted to nothing," Linderman says.
Then Linderman drops a bombshell, literally and figuratively: the explosion is to be the catalyst for a better future. When Nathan wonders out aloud about the cost in lives, Linderman counters, "There’s six and a half billion people on the planet, that’s less than .07%. Come on, that’s an acceptable loss by anyone’s count.""It is your destiny, Nathan, to be the leader who uses this event to rally a city, a nation, a world," Linderman continues. And to drive the point home, Linderman unveils a prophetic painting of Nathan Petrelli in the Oval Office, seemingly painted by Isaac Mendez.
"If you know all this, you also know the exploding man is my brother Peter," Nathan says.
"As I said, we all have our role to play. Peter’s curtain call will come the day after you’re elected."


“.07%,” the first of the final five episode of “Heroes’” first year, is scheduled to air on April 23rd on NBC.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Mar 15, 2007 at 12:04 AM
Are You on the List? (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=4885834462883321217)

This test is designed to determine where you'd fit into the ever-evolving world of Heroes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Mar 15, 2007 at 02:51 AM
Took it.

And I'm Mr. Bennet...

Dang.

(on second thought...at least I'd get to be with Claire everyday, hehehe  ;D)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: NongP on Mar 15, 2007 at 07:35 AM
also took it

i'm Nathan Petrelli

 :o
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: JAZZ on Mar 15, 2007 at 08:16 AM
DL
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 15, 2007 at 08:49 AM
I'm also Mr. Bennett. The variables the test tracked where "Mr. Bennetts" excelled at can be quite disturbing -- according to the test, I scored higher than 99% of the population on idealism, nonconformity, and nerdiness. If not for the nerdiness factor, I'd should've been dead years ago.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on Mar 15, 2007 at 08:59 AM
Interesting test.  I'm a Matt Parkman.  :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Mar 15, 2007 at 11:19 AM
DL hawkins here... which says i can't find my way around the kitchen... and that's weird, cause i CAN cook. LOL.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AICRAG on Mar 15, 2007 at 11:40 AM
weird.  Am Nathan Petrelli
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garfield_3199 on Mar 15, 2007 at 10:12 PM
Me too... Nathan Petrelli. And here i was thinking I was Hiro!?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: The Stig on Mar 15, 2007 at 11:01 PM
HRG for me.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Mar 15, 2007 at 11:25 PM
Micah Sanders here. Tagal talaga ng April 23.

Another side question. Who is hotter? Faith (Missy Peregrym), the shape-shifter? Or the "late" Eden McCain (Nora Zehetner), the persuader? My vote goes to Eden.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Mar 16, 2007 at 12:45 AM
The Eden McCain in Six Months Ago... long-haired and kinda' wild  ;D (she turned a little too submissive after her encounter with Mr Bennet...)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 16, 2007 at 01:25 AM
Slightly OT but also related to Heroes... Would anyone know the PS3 game Micah was playing in his bedroom with his mom?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: llanesmark777 on Mar 16, 2007 at 01:53 AM
GReat Tv series!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Mar 16, 2007 at 02:48 AM
Slightly OT but also related to Heroes... Would anyone know the PS3 game Micah was playing in his bedroom with his mom?

Googled it and found out that it was Heavenly Sword (i'm not familiar with the game, though).

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Mar 16, 2007 at 06:27 AM
Googled it and found out that it was Heavenly Sword (i'm not familiar with the game, though).

Heavenly Sword for the PS3 is scheduled for a June 2007 release. Apparently one of Micah's powers is to be able to play still-unreleased games for the PlayStation 3.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Mar 16, 2007 at 06:39 AM
Hm, if that's the case then he must have had a demo copy of the game, eh?  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Mar 16, 2007 at 08:16 AM
Are You on the List? (http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=4885834462883321217)

This test is designed to determine where you'd fit into the ever-evolving world of Heroes.
Nathan Petrelli here.....
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kimpOy on Mar 16, 2007 at 12:19 PM
ako naman si CLAUDE...

cool!  invisibility yeah!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Mar 20, 2007 at 08:23 AM
Article on the Heroes panel at the recent Wizard World Comics Convention in Los Angeles:

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WIZARD WORLD LOS ANGELES: HEROES PANEL

LOS ANGELES -- Tim Kring, creator of NBC'S Heroes, promised that the show won't become one of those "where the train engines can't get off the track" and that the series will wrap up some storylines before the end of the season.

"We need to wrap enough story up, so a new audience can jump on next season," Kring said at the Heroes panel on Saturday at Wizard World Los Angeles.

"There's a reason the pilot was titled volume one," added co-executive producer Jeph Loeb, who moderated the panel.

Kring and Loeb were joined by staffers Jesse Alexander, Michael Green, Adam Armus, Kay Foster, Joe Pokaski, Aron Coleite, Bryan Fuller and Chuck Kim, along with artists Tim Sale.

The Heroes panel was probably the most attended panel of the weekend at Wizard World Los Angeles. Even Marvel Comics panels played to rooms that were more than half-empty.

Other highlights included:

* The Season 1 DVD will be available in HD. It will contain new scenes as well as the original 72-minute cut of the pilot.

* Claire's friend Zach will not be portrayed as gay, at the request of actor Thomas Dekker's management.

* Loeb praised the work of James Kyson Lee as Ando. "It's a difficult thing being Dean Martin to Jerry Lewis," Loeb said. "He does it with courage and commitment."

* Sale said his art is done in black and white, colored by Dave Stewart and then blown up.

* An announcement regarding a collection of the Heroes web comics is expected at Comic-Con International in San Diego.

* Kring said there will be three "breakaway" episodes that hop off the main story this season. The first two were "Six Months Ago" and "Company Man" and the third will be the season's 20th episode, written by Pokaski.

* Kring said characters will come and go from Heroes, as part of his original plan. "A character doesn't need to leave the show in a pine box," Loeb added. "They can leave for other reasons and you can guess what those might be."

* Asked about any Heroes spin-offs, Kring said, "There's been no discussions of spin-offs. We're swimming as fast as we can to get these episodes out."

* The eclipse will be dealt with.

* Kring said it's important to stick to the premise of the show -- the discovery of people with powers -- and keep it grounded in reality. "You have to ground the aspects of things of the show because it can backfire on you," he said.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Apr 23, 2007 at 12:57 AM
yey April 23 na!!  last 4 episodes of Heroes nalang  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Apr 23, 2007 at 08:53 AM
yessss! at last!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Apr 23, 2007 at 01:53 PM
I'm also Mr. Bennett. The variables the test tracked where "Mr. Bennetts" excelled at can be quite disturbing -- according to the test, I scored higher than 99% of the population on idealism, nonconformity, and nerdiness. If not for the nerdiness factor, I'd should've been dead years ago.

Pre, pareho tayo sa percentile rank and categories but I turned out to be Micah Sanders. My Mom's hotter than your Mom. Hehe!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Phobos on Apr 23, 2007 at 02:00 PM
I predict Peter will get majorly smashed in an epic battle with Sylar. And this show will screw me sideways in the ear and not respect me in the morning.

And I will be ok with it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Apr 23, 2007 at 02:45 PM
Any news on when Heroes Season 1 be released on DVD?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 24, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Any news on when Heroes Season 1 be released on DVD?

According to Digital Bits (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html), Universal has it lined up for an August release..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Apr 24, 2007 at 03:58 PM
Various thoughts:

I was waiting for a healer to show up. So there you go.

Well, Peter v. Sylar, like the episode itself, bitin! Stupid kasi ni Peter, he had all the time in the world to duck--and what was he doing with his back to Sylar anyway.

HRG and the 2 guys, looks like that's going to be a fun group.


Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Apr 24, 2007 at 04:04 PM
super cliffhanger ending as usual. Can't wait to see next week's episode. I'd also like to see the answers to some of the questions poised in this episode, more importantly:

what Peter's mom's power is
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: oReOsHaKe on Apr 24, 2007 at 07:13 PM
According to Digital Bits (http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html), Universal has it lined up for an August release..

Heroes Season 1 will be released in S-DVD and HD-DVD format come August 2007...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Apr 24, 2007 at 08:30 PM
my guess indie boi about peter's mom's........

.......power is same as claire.  coz his father and mother don't have it.  so there must be someone in the family who has it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Apr 24, 2007 at 08:31 PM
with peter & sylar's encounter.....would it be safe to assume that.....

peter now has all of sylar's powers?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Apr 24, 2007 at 08:43 PM
my guess indie boi about peter's mom's........

.......power is same as claire.  coz his father and mother don't have it.  so there must be someone in the family who has it.

Was it implied that the powers can be similar to someone in the genealogy? I'm asking because Micah's powers are different from his parents.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Apr 24, 2007 at 08:46 PM
Was it implied that the powers can be similar to someone in the genealogy? I'm asking because Micah's powers are different from his parents.

nope it wasn't implied...hula ko lang.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Apr 24, 2007 at 09:18 PM
ah ok. I thought I missed an important piece of information, hehe.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Apr 25, 2007 at 01:30 PM
micah's power maybe use for rigging the votes just to be sure that nathan petrelli will win or provide linderman some cash when he forgot his atm card hehehe
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Apr 25, 2007 at 03:17 PM
micah's power is like jake's in jake 2.0...if you've seen the show.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on Apr 26, 2007 at 04:17 PM
just watched .07% (episode 19) and i feel the same way as i did when i saw episode 18. BITIN! :(
have to wait another week.. hay..

how do you guys make the spoiler thingy?

:)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Miguel^ on Apr 30, 2007 at 09:12 AM
micah's power maybe use for rigging the votes just to be sure that nathan petrelli will win or provide linderman some cash when he forgot his atm card hehehe

Good point.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on Apr 30, 2007 at 05:46 PM
I think Peter's Mom's power has something to do with making a person kill himself (Mind control maybe).  I think she has a hand in her husband's (peter and nathan's father) demise so as not to be a burden with Nathan's candidacy.


After all 'mind control' as a power has yet to be manifested in a character.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Apr 30, 2007 at 05:54 PM
After all 'mind control' as a power has yet to be manifested in a character.


there was such a character already..mr. bennett's lady assistant who befriended mohinder suresh and who was also killed by sylar.

she was with the haitian dude when they captured sylar.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Apr 30, 2007 at 07:42 PM
If she had mind control powers then she could've just used it to compel Claire to follow her wishes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Miguel^ on May 01, 2007 at 01:19 PM
She has the power of suggestion. 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 01, 2007 at 01:28 PM
there was such a character already..mr. bennett's lady assistant who befriended mohinder suresh and who was also killed by sylar.

she was with the haitian dude when they captured sylar.

yup, that was Eden McCain
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 01, 2007 at 03:43 PM
Just saw Episode 20. Best main storyline episode in my opinion as it paints a picture of things that have unfolded. After this episode...

Sylar could possibly enter the rarefied group of most memorable movie and tv villains.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 01, 2007 at 08:57 PM
Great, great episode (Five Years Gone).

I had figured saving Claire was so Sylar didn't become unstoppable. But I didn't figure that Sylar was going to be the president. That was a cool twist. And there was a Matrix-like feel to that lobby scene.  ;D  But they shouldn't have cut away from the Peter/Sylar fight. Bitin na naman away nila--before it even began in fact.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RDyENT on May 01, 2007 at 09:11 PM
Nice episode! My 2nd favorite episode after "Company Man".
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 01, 2007 at 09:23 PM
yup, one of my favorites too!

btw, why was matt's power still there even if the haitian was w/ him the whole time (or did i just miss an info re: the haitian's power)?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on May 01, 2007 at 11:15 PM
Just read Greg Beeman's blog. Interesting bit of trivia, the Oval Office set used in episode 20 was originally the West Wing's
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 02, 2007 at 09:34 AM
yup, one of my favorites too!

btw, why was matt's power still there even if the haitian was w/ him the whole time (or did i just miss an info re: the haitian's power)?


Maybe the Haitian can turn his powers on and off.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on May 02, 2007 at 09:39 AM
Heroes Season 1 will be released in S-DVD and HD-DVD format come August 2007...
Looking forward to this set...will indeed have a nice marathon over the weekend. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 03, 2007 at 06:50 PM
getting better and better with every new episode.

is the haitian dead? i sorta like his power coz if you think about it... he can stop sylar!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 03, 2007 at 07:53 PM
is the haitian dead? i sorta like his power coz if you think about it... he can stop sylar!

Huh? That happened in the future. And I don't think you'll have to worry about that particular alternate reality again.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on May 04, 2007 at 12:44 AM
Check this out (c/o USA Today):

Entertainment Weekly's latest issue puts the spotlight on HEROES with five different covers featuring the lead characters.  Each cover allegedly has clues to the climactic final episodes of Season One.  Here's the link (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20037407,00.html).  Watch out for spoilers! 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on May 04, 2007 at 09:02 PM
i think he can turn it on/off


yup, one of my favorites too!

btw, why was matt's power still there even if the haitian was w/ him the whole time (or did i just miss an info re: the haitian's power)?

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on May 04, 2007 at 10:18 PM
yup, one of my favorites too!

btw, why was matt's power still there even if the haitian was w/ him the whole time (or did i just miss an info re: the haitian's power)?


Yup. I noticed that too. But here's the much bigger dilemma:

How come Matt was not able to read Sylar's mind? He was there acting as President disguised as Nathan ordering him around all the time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 04, 2007 at 11:02 PM
OT: The Season One DVD/HD DVD (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7257) is scheduled for release on August 28..

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 05, 2007 at 08:32 AM
Huh? That happened in the future. And I don't think you'll have to worry about that particular alternate reality again.

huh? why not?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on May 05, 2007 at 08:33 AM
oo nga noh!!!  Matt should have found out!!   ???


Yup. I noticed that too. But here's the much bigger dilemma:

How come Matt was not able to read Sylar's mind? He was there acting as President disguised as Nathan ordering him around all the time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 05, 2007 at 10:38 AM
well. maybe matt knows but he's with sylar... :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on May 05, 2007 at 02:00 PM
three more episodes left, and i'm wondering if they're going to snuff Sylar at the end of the finale, they need to come up with a more interesting story arc for the next season.

but if they're not, what's with the final three episodes? since there's the imminent explosion---whether from Sylar or from Peter... they're still going to kill a villain in the process (through Hiro or through the explosion). this is going to be interesting, even with the chronological roundabouts that transpired.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 05, 2007 at 03:14 PM
Yup. I noticed that too. But here's the much bigger dilemma:

How come Matt was not able to read Sylar's mind? He was there acting as President disguised as Nathan ordering him around all the time.


The show has a lot of explaining to do. ;D


1. Hiro said he wasn't able to kill Sylar (thus the explosion still happened) because he regenerated (thus he already has the regeneration power of Claire), but...

2. Here is Sylar as President with the "LIVING" Claire.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on May 05, 2007 at 03:43 PM

The show has a lot of explaining to do. ;D

1. Hiro said he wasn't able to kill Sylar (thus the explosion still happened) because he regenerated (thus he already has the regeneration power of Claire), but...

2. Here is Sylar as President with the "LIVING" Claire.




I think it is still consistent. We actually have 3 alternate realities here.

The first is when Sylar kills Claire and Sylar explodes and regenerates. So future Hiro goes back in time to tell Peter to save the cheerleader and save the world.

The second scenario happened last episode. After future Hiro went back in time to warn Peter, Peter did save Claire. Sylar doesn't have regeneration capabilities in this one (yet). It was Peter who exploded and regenerated but "Sylar-Nathan" covered it up and told the world it was Sylar who exploded. Probably, the "fake" Nathan told Peter he killed Sylar already, but it was Sylar "faking" his death to hide from Peter and the rest of the world. Even the "future" Hiro thought it was Sylar who exploded all along.

The 3rd reality is what future Hiro was really hoping for. Peter saves Claire, and "present" Hiro kills Sylar. But of course, it was only last episode that "present" Hiro knew he was supposed to kill Sylar. The next three episodes will tell us whether this will happen.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on May 05, 2007 at 03:48 PM
What still bothers me though is how Sylar escaped from Matt's mind reading all allong. And if future Peter was really that powerful (he could stop time too), it would be more logical that he be the one to go back in time to kill Sylar. Why entrust it to a "Hiro" whose only power was to stop time?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 05, 2007 at 04:13 PM
What still bothers me though is how Sylar escaped from Matt's mind reading all allong. And if future Peter was really that powerful (he could stop time too), it would be more logical that he be the one to go back in time to kill Sylar. Why entrust it to a "Hiro" whose only power was to stop time?

YEah. Good point.

And what's this Peter fighting with "fire" power against Sylar when he can stop time (a power Sylar doesnt have) have a go at defeating Sylar any way he wants, like severing his head from his body. Then going back in time with Sylar's head (say in Africa or a zoo) and giving Sylar's head to a lion or any big cat he can find. I don't think Sylar would grow a head even if he has the power of regeneration.

What do you think? I guess if we were the writers for the show, it wouldn't last 5 episodes. Everything will be settled quickly. And (pan to the future) Claire would be the President of the United States.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 05, 2007 at 05:06 PM
for the question why future peter is not the one to go back in time to kill sylar...well maybe he is too guilty and hopeless na to do it kasi he was so disheartened that he killed a lot of people.  so instead of correcting that...indifferent na lang siya sa so much grief!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 05, 2007 at 05:10 PM
as for matt not being able to read president sylar's mind...maybe he actually did and kept it to himself.  takot na siya kasi baka siya mismo patayin ni sylar.  maybe it was more of fear.  si mr. bennett nga pinatay niya even if he himself told bennett may utang na loob siya dito for hiding is wife and child....he did say he didn't want to come back empty handed...sa takot siguro ke sylar.

his actions were dictated more by fear than anything else
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 05, 2007 at 05:12 PM
Maybe the Haitian can turn his powers on and off.

yup his powers naman yata can be called at will and not palaging naka on.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 05, 2007 at 06:05 PM
huh? why not?

Because I dont think we'll have a season ender where Manhattan explodes--I could be wrong. Which would mean that future will no longer come to be. Hence Haitian man does not die (if in fact he does) at the hands of Suresh.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 05, 2007 at 06:49 PM
just a question, Peter's scar was a diagonal one across his face ... i assume this wasn't caused by Sylar's forehead-slicing in Mohinder's room incident right?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 06, 2007 at 03:01 PM
as for matt not being able to read president sylar's mind...maybe he actually did and kept it to himself.  takot na siya kasi baka siya mismo patayin ni sylar.  maybe it was more of fear.  si mr. bennett nga pinatay niya even if he himself told bennett may utang na loob siya dito for hiding is wife and child....he did say he didn't want to come back empty handed...sa takot siguro ke sylar.

his actions were dictated more by fear than anything else

well.. your theory is more palatable than mind.

but if i were sylar, i'd kill matt too just to get his power of mind reading. and maybe the haitian's power na lang? too many choices.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 06, 2007 at 06:59 PM
just a question, Peter's scar was a diagonal one across his face ... i assume this wasn't caused by Sylar's forehead-slicing in Mohinder's room incident right?

i'm sure we'll find out sa season ender....hula ko yun sword ni hiro...dunno the reason behind it lang.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 06, 2007 at 07:01 PM
but if i were sylar, i'd kill matt too just to get his power of mind reading. and maybe the haitian's power na lang? too many choices.

maybe since he's playing as president..he's too busy to do everything himself.  so he still needs some henchmen to do his bidding.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 07, 2007 at 05:13 PM



Di ba may power na si Sylar to dictate another to do his bidding (from the girl who captured him)? Maybe Matt is under this power of Sylar.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 07, 2007 at 05:15 PM
well.. your theory is more palatable than mind.

but if i were sylar, i'd kill matt too just to get his power of mind reading. and maybe the haitian's power na lang? too many choices.

Hindi kaya kung kukunin ni Sylar ang power ng Haitian ay mawalan siya ng power altogether dahil it will negate evrything he has?




At paano ba ginagawa ni Sylar sa brain ng kinukunan niya ng powers? Kinakain ba niya?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: angelos on May 07, 2007 at 05:18 PM
Ang ganda nito. Episode 9 na kagabi sa rpn 9.
Tempted akong bumili ng isang season sa dvd but gusto ko ang maghintay very week ng episode para mas exciting.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: keilu on May 07, 2007 at 05:56 PM
finally able to see what heroes is all about - half an episode anyways yesterday. :) will definitely be looking forward to this being shown on C/S this May. Anyways, i read na lang the episode recaps :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 07, 2007 at 10:30 PM


Di ba may power na si Sylar to dictate another to do his bidding (from the girl who captured him)? Maybe Matt is under this power of Sylar.



No, Eden shot herself to prevent Sylar from acquiring her powers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 08, 2007 at 09:37 AM
No, Eden shot herself to prevent Sylar from acquiring her powers.



Ah yes. Oo nga pala. My bad. My bad!



Nothing much happened in Episode 21 but the ending is so bitin...

A new character with special ability was introduced.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 08, 2007 at 08:07 PM
quite a mushy episode w/ someone having a Psycho-Bates syndrome ... another one missing a sister ... and another one missing a dad
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: etchet on May 09, 2007 at 12:14 AM
masarap mag download sa torrent
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: john5479 on May 09, 2007 at 07:05 AM
cant wait for episode 22
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 09, 2007 at 08:55 AM
I still can't decide what Nathan's mom's powers could be. Is it her sartorial sense of style or is it her ability to talk compelling BS?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 09, 2007 at 12:02 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 09, 2007 at 12:12 PM
Episode 21: The Hard Part

The cure for Cerebro may be in Mohinder's blood.  The death of Ando may be the catalyst for Hiro to get the needed guts to kill Clark Kent.  Mystique is still the top choice for ultimate wife.

If hard part is the answer, the question may be: What is waiting?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: mrclark on May 10, 2007 at 09:52 AM
Anybody know when in May will this be shown in Crime/Suspense channel?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 11, 2007 at 09:34 PM
Episode 21: The Hard Part

The cure for Cerebro may be in Mohinder's blood.  The death of Ando may be the catalyst for Hiro to get the needed guts to kill Clark Kent.  Mystique is still the top choice for ultimate wife.

If hard part is the answer, the question may be: What is waiting?


err.. mystique? the blue girl from x-men? yeah.. if you meant her.. i agree.. she's hot :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 12, 2007 at 12:51 AM
err.. mystique? the blue girl from x-men? yeah.. if you meant her.. i agree.. she's hot :)

What I meant was: Candice's power is similar (perhaps an improved version) to that of Mystique.  Ultimate wife coz she can look like anyone.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 12, 2007 at 06:53 AM
hehehe. okies. she's hot too! :) and she's not blue and doesnt have scales :D



question: how come sylar was able to move when hiro stopped time? (at sylar's mother's house)

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 12, 2007 at 10:30 AM
He did not move while time stopped -- time started moving again when he was about to land the killing blow. Hiro's hesitation may have caused his powers to fail.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 12, 2007 at 12:37 PM
Yeah, Hiro sort of hesitated.  And I think Sylar's newly acquired hearing power made him react a split-second faster than normal.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on May 12, 2007 at 12:48 PM
may tanong din ako. hindi ba dapat walang effect kay peter petrelli yung powers ng hatian? kasi naabsorb naman nya just like how peter can see the invisible guy.

imo dapat walang laban si sylar kay peter coz peter can do whatever sylar can do and more pa. i hope we get to see the sylar-petrelli battle next season! kaso final episode of the season na in a couple of weeks, tapos nun another 5 months of waiting till season 2 starts :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 12, 2007 at 01:24 PM
Anybody know when in May will this be shown in Crime/Suspense channel?

May 28, Monday, 9pm.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 12, 2007 at 01:47 PM
may season 2 na ba for sure?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 12, 2007 at 02:17 PM
imo dapat walang laban si sylar kay peter coz peter can do whatever sylar can do and more pa. i hope we get to see the sylar-petrelli battle next season! kaso final episode of the season na in a couple of weeks, tapos nun another 5 months of waiting till season 2 starts :(

Yeah, dapat di uubra si Sylar kay Peter.  Problem is mas aggressive si Sylar and, if I'm not mistaken, Sylar's ability is to know how things work.  Alam na kaagad nya kung paano i-maximize yung mga powers na nakuha niya.  Whereas si Peter ay parang pa-tsamba-tsamba pa lang.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 12, 2007 at 03:10 PM
Kinakain ba ni Sylar ang utak ng biktima niya? Di kasi ako clear sa part na yan eh.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on May 12, 2007 at 06:20 PM
yun ang sabi nung cerebro girl last episode
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on May 13, 2007 at 12:06 PM
There is a rumor in the Wiki episode guide that Sylar will eat another hero's brain on the next one. Wonder who that might be? Could it be Ted Sprague?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: mrclark on May 15, 2007 at 11:09 AM
May 28, Monday, 9pm.

Thanks for the heads-up Sardaukar
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 15, 2007 at 01:50 PM
Wonderful setup for the finale. Things are coming to a head and the writing was topnotch, everything just fell into place without it feeling rushed. I give my compliments to the episode writer for deftly weaving the separate "character scripts" written by the other writers into one cohesive whole.

Best line for me was: "Didn't I throw you out a window?"
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 15, 2007 at 03:45 PM
I know changing one thing can affect something else (butterfly flapping its wings and all that) but I don't see how anything Hiro did could have led to DL's death (unless he's not dead). And if that were the case, future Sylar shouldn't have his power.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 15, 2007 at 06:59 PM
another great episode!!! cant wait for next week again!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on May 15, 2007 at 07:28 PM
just like the scene in peter's dream
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on May 15, 2007 at 10:36 PM
So, Faith wasn't a shape-shifter at all a la Mystique. Another fan pointed out that she has more in common with the Squadron Supreme's Moonglow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonglow_%28comics%29). The latest episode really made up for the lousiest anticlimax (from last week) the show has ever had.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on May 16, 2007 at 10:57 AM
Heroes Season One
It's Official: August 28 DVD Release!
(http://herosite.net/heroes-s1.jpg) (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7322)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: john5479 on May 16, 2007 at 11:19 AM
i'm waiting for the hd dvd release ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 16, 2007 at 11:15 PM
I know changing one thing can affect something else (butterfly flapping its wings and all that) but I don't see how anything Hiro did could have led to DL's death (unless he's not dead). And if that were the case, future Sylar shouldn't have his power.
DL's power is like that of Shadowcat.  In this episode, he killed Linderman by grabbing his brain from his skull.  He was still holding it while Niki was cradling him.  What if he accidentally fused Linderman's brain into his body and in effect get Linderman's healing ability (ala Sylar)?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on May 17, 2007 at 12:53 AM
i'm waiting for the hd dvd release ;D

Same here...it's a long wait pa...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 17, 2007 at 01:11 PM
DL's power is like that of Shadowcat.  In this episode, he killed Linderman by grabbing his brain from his skull.  He was still holding it while Niki was cradling him.  What if he accidentally fused Linderman's brain into his body and in effect get Linderman's healing ability (ala Sylar)?

That's a good theory. Let's see. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 17, 2007 at 05:02 PM
That's a good theory. Let's see. :)

Nah, it was too cheesy!  But thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: viper on May 20, 2007 at 06:47 PM
Im still on episode 15. Trying my best not to open the spoilers posted!  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 20, 2007 at 08:09 PM
Im still on episode 15. Trying my best not to open the spoilers posted!  ;) 8)

Have a go at it, bro!  Because of the extreme popularity of Heroes, many are sharing it so I'm sure that you'll catch up in no time.  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on May 22, 2007 at 09:51 AM
Just caught the season finale:

Wow.

It's pretty much satisfying... (but I hate to see them go)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kings5504 on May 22, 2007 at 10:23 AM
I was just wondering:

Can't Peter use two powers at the same time? Technically, he didn't need Nathan for that last bit if he can, right? I just can't remember if he's done that before...

Overall, a pretty solid first season, and I can't wait to get this on HD DVD this summer!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on May 22, 2007 at 10:38 AM
Probably he could, but with his condition on the last episode, i'm pretty sure he needed all the help he could get...

So, Sylar will turn out to be consummate villain, eh? Was really hoping he'd be the "exploding man"...

The teaser for Vol. 2:Generations is actually kewl...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2007 at 12:39 PM
Absolutely awesome! It's got everything and amazingly it was crammed into just one full packed hour. I was expecting the season finale to last two hours.

who could be the new villain? the man who, according to the girl, is much worse than the bogeyman
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on May 22, 2007 at 01:29 PM
and is he going to team up with Sylar? (he's not dead, I'm sure)
what i didn't expect was Nathan's unselfish act, but he could still be alive for all we know (he could've flown Peter out into the space, leave him to explode, then come back to retrieve what's left of his brother for him to regenerate...). i was more inclined to see either D.L. or Parkman to get the ticket home (though D.L's more expendable, methinks).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: NongP on May 22, 2007 at 01:54 PM
i think the last 3 episode was the season finale.  d ko na lang ma recall where i read it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on May 22, 2007 at 02:04 PM
Yep!  That is what I know as well.  "The Hard Part," "Landslide," and "How to Stop An Exploding Man" do comprise the three-part season finale for the series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on May 22, 2007 at 03:37 PM
"the future isn't written on stones" (neither painted on canvass  ;) )   ..maybe this line explains why Isaac was not needed anymore.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 22, 2007 at 09:13 PM
Wonderful season ender. It held together very well despite the numerous subplots--and came together very well in the end. That was one packed hour.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on May 22, 2007 at 09:40 PM
i agree ... twas just right ... not too superhero-ish
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on May 22, 2007 at 10:30 PM
great season finale...di masyado bitin but still gives you a thirst for the 2nd season.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2007 at 10:37 PM
I wonder who will be returning in Season 2. According to the roundtable discussion in the past ComicCon, the plan for Heroes is to really mirror well known plot devices in comic books -- meaning the heroes will come and go depending on the story arc for the season. This means there is a chance that some key characters won't be in the second season but may appear in the third season (if ever there will be one). Very ambitious of them to think so long term.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on May 22, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Heroes Season One
It's Official: August 28 DVD Release!
(http://herosite.net/heroes-s1.jpg) (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7322)

Now available for pre-order at Amazon.com for just $39. With the exchange rate now at P45.90:$1, this just comes out at around P1790! You get a full season boxset (all 23 episodes) for the equivalent price of 2 local Magnavision DVDs.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on May 23, 2007 at 01:00 AM
i totally enjoyed the last episode!!
can't wait for season 2!! :D
well i'm guessing Hiro will definitely be in Season 2!!  hehe  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 23, 2007 at 07:18 AM
I wouldn't even mind it being completely set in the Tokugawa era though I highly doubt it. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on May 23, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Excerpt from Greg Beeman's blog:

while you guys may have to wait 3 months or so for the next installment, let me encourage you with the following news: First we here at HEROES are already all back at work. Episode 1 is being written as we speak and we begin shooting episode 1 in about 1 short month. I have heard the writers pitch out the story lines for the next season and lemme tell you they are freakin’ awesome. There are new characters. New powers. Some of the characters you have come to know and love, in fact, DID die last night. And ALL those who survive will be moving on in new and unexpected directions. We are all ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED to not repeating ourselves next season – but in bringing you a freshly conceived show. Also, the reason we are beginning so early is that we are all committed to long runs of the show next year with very few, and very short hiatuses. We don’t want to be off the air with new episodes for 5 or 6 weeks anymore.

Also, the DVD will be out on August 28th and it will be loaded with lots of extras. We have been working on many of those extras for several months already.

OK – that’s it. As for me, my blog will go dark for a couple of months. But this season, my plan is to come back online a few times before we air, to fill you in on what’s developing, and maybe to answer some questions you have. I’m sure the official NBC site and Herosite.net will alert you when new blogs are up.

Hang in there. And we’ll see you next year!!!


Beeman
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: czedryk on May 23, 2007 at 09:51 AM
loved the season finale... now the long wait for volume 2...  :'(
i actually laughed when i saw Hiro in the Tokugawa era...
he miscalculated his time travel again, but at least he now has the chance to meet his hero Kensei in person  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on May 23, 2007 at 11:02 AM
What if it turns out he, in fact, is Kensei. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: formerlysane on May 23, 2007 at 11:19 AM
loved the season finale...

you serious?!  i think that episode blew.

first of all, lemme just say that the writers kinda (if not really) gimped sylar in this one... he gets stabbed by hiro just like that after stopping the bullets from parkman, shot from his blindside too.  c'mon! they were standing in front of each other and probably a good 4-5 feet away.

personally, i'm really disappointed at how they closed the season.

i hope they get better writers for season 2.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on May 23, 2007 at 11:26 AM
it'd be nice to have Hiro's teleporting ability right now.. we could just jump straight to September for the start of Season 2.. :D

and mr. bennet's name is Noah.. huh..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 23, 2007 at 12:21 PM
I was just wondering:

Can't Peter use two powers at the same time? Technically, he didn't need Nathan for that last bit if he can, right? I just can't remember if he's done that before...

Overall, a pretty solid first season, and I can't wait to get this on HD DVD this summer!

Here's a possible reason (taken from a very good review in TV.com):

Peter was fighting with every fiber of his (Hero) being against the runaway nuclear reaction. He could not divert any of his energy or concentration to another ability without losing control and immediately detonating. In fact, if he had launched himself in the air and climbed to 10,000 feet before detonating, the devastating effect on the city would have been far worse than detonating on the ground. Hint: This is why nuclear weapons are detonated at altitude instead of at surface level.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 23, 2007 at 12:36 PM
I think Kensei was the first in the line of Supers, and the legend that surrounds him is because of what he can do. Hiro is there (Tokugawa Era) to provide the back story.





Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on May 23, 2007 at 12:49 PM
you serious?!  i think that episode blew.

first of all, lemme just say that the writers kinda (if not really) gimped sylar in this one... he gets stabbed by hiro just like that after stopping the bullets from parkman, shot from his blindside too.  c'mon! they were standing in front of each other and probably a good 4-5 feet away.

personally, i'm really disappointed at how they closed the season.

i hope they get better writers for season 2.



i agree. the finale was just so so.

its nothing like the "five years after" episode. it would have been ok for a normal episode but it sucked as a season finale. hiro did'nt even have to stop time to stab sylar! and nathan didn't have to fly peter away, they should have let claire shoot him coz he would have regenerated anyway :P

there were a few brightspots though. i loved it when nikki hit sylar w/ the parking meter!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 23, 2007 at 03:56 PM
i agree. the finale was just so so.

its nothing like the "five years after" episode. it would have been ok for a normal episode but it sucked as a season finale. hiro did'nt even have to stop time to stab sylar! and nathan didn't have to fly peter away, they should have let claire shoot him coz he would have regenerated anyway :P

there were a few brightspots though. i loved it when nikki hit sylar w/ the parking meter!



If Claire shot Peter, the nuclear reaction would just stop for a few minutes, but it would start again as soon as he regenerated.  At best, he would be right back in the same situation.  At worst, the reaction runs out of control while he is regaining consciousness and pulling himself together.
Because of this, I think that Peter is already dead.  It will just be always the same problem if he gets regenerated.  Nathan may be alive, if Peter had persuaded him to fly off after he has flown Peter to the necessary altitude.  Parkman may be wearing a bullet-proof vest.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on May 24, 2007 at 11:25 AM
I don't know how to do these "hover to show" things on the board, so I'll just post this old fashioned, simple warning for those who wouldn't want to read these things:

****SPOILERS*****

With regards to x-ran's comments, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the idea of Claire shooting Peter before he goes nuclear supposed to stop Peter totally from ever regenerating, since people with this ability tend to be left for dead if they got something lodged in their heads?  So, if Peter gets it,meaning getting a bullet to his head, he won't even get the chance to heal.  I think, their original plan was to shoot him in the back of his head, but at the Plaza, they were face to face with each other. So I think, it seems that it doesn't matter if it's on the back or on the front, just as long as something gets in their noggin.

Also, what was Nikki's beef with Sylar?  Can't seem to remember they ever crossed paths.  So, she just charged in the Peter-Sylar skirmish and slammed Sylar with a parking meter?  For what?  Out of the goodness of her heart to help Peter?  Or was she holding a grduge against the villain as well?  Can't seem to recall.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Quitacet on May 24, 2007 at 12:01 PM
I think it's out of realization what's happening and who the bad guy is. Nikki seemed to be in control of Jessica and used her power to help though she haven't met Sylar before.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: chocovim on May 24, 2007 at 12:23 PM
yeah. the last episode wasnt so great. they could have done better.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on May 24, 2007 at 01:15 PM
spoiler alert

i don't think Peter is dead. it's not like the nuclear man's power makes him blow up to bits. if going nuclear kills him then he wouldn't have been in the 5 years after episode.

pendrell is right. peter wouldn't have regenerated until they took the bullet out. in the same episode peter passed out on the street when he was going nuclear and was alright afterwards so there is reason to believe that he would have exploded when he woke up.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 24, 2007 at 01:56 PM
I don't know how to do these "hover to show" things on the board, so I'll just post this old fashioned, simple warning for those who wouldn't want to read these things:

****SPOILERS*****

With regards to x-ran's comments, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the idea of Claire shooting Peter before he goes nuclear supposed to stop Peter totally from ever regenerating, since people with this ability tend to be left for dead if they got something lodged in their heads?  So, if Peter gets it,meaning getting a bullet to his head, he won't even get the chance to heal.  I think, their original plan was to shoot him in the back of his head, but at the Plaza, they were face to face with each other. So I think, it seems that it doesn't matter if it's on the back or on the front, just as long as something gets in their noggin.

Also, what was Nikki's beef with Sylar?  Can't seem to remember they ever crossed paths.  So, she just charged in the Peter-Sylar skirmish and slammed Sylar with a parking meter?  For what?  Out of the goodness of her heart to help Peter?  Or was she holding a grduge against the villain as well?  Can't seem to recall.

I can think of two things that will happen when Peter gets shot by a gun: (1) the bullet would totally pass through him, temporarily injuring him with a gunshot wound but he would be totally regenerated coz there's no obstruction; and (2) the bullet would hit a hard part (skeleton) and would get lodged inside of him, this has happened to Claire in the episode "Company Man" and remember that Claire just spat out the bullet after regenerating.  So yes, I see Peter regenerating in both instances bringing us back into a loop.  A tranquilizer would have serve the purpose better than a gun (Once again as seen in "Company Man"), but I guess the writers opt not to rehash the same trick again.

Nikki saw Sylar using his power to stop Parkman and deduced that Sylar is the bad guy.  And they were also together with Molly and Mohinder in the elevator, enough time for both of them to keep Micah's family in the loop.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: voj on May 24, 2007 at 02:37 PM
spoiler alert

i don't think Peter is dead. it's not like the nuclear man's power makes him blow up to bits. if going nuclear kills him then he wouldn't have been in the 5 years after episode.



-somewhat of a spoiler-

That 5 years after episode is an "alternate" universe, in their world the explosion happened.  and kendo is dead.

but, i still believe he'll be back next season, cause sylar is not dead yet, he escaped thru the sewers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vinta18 on May 24, 2007 at 03:15 PM
Peter is alive. They've stolen so much from comicbooks that they're bound to adopt the "if there's no body..." rule. What I'm interested in is Nathan. Could he have flown fast enough to escape the blast? Or will Adrian Pasdar (whose contract, I think, has been renewed) just appear in flashbacks and as Angela's illusions?

I'm gunning for the latter. It'll be cool to have mama Petrelli using Linderman's henchwoman to maximize Nathan's Congressional seat. Plus Milo and Adrian can gay it up even more. :)   

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on May 24, 2007 at 10:57 PM
I'm beginning to wonder whether Episode 23 was originally a two-hour episode, and if they were just forced to cram everything into one hour.  The climactic scene involving PP and Sylar had too much of a build-up too - it certainly didn't merit just the 5 mins or so of screen time that made the cut.  Hope we'll see some of the deleted scenes from this episode in the DVD. 

Having said that, I think it was still a pretty good season ender over-all.  Certainly worth a second run.

BTW, where is the Haitian (The Five Years Gone episode doesn't count)?  And we still don't know what Sylar does to the other heroes' brains to get their powers.         
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on May 25, 2007 at 11:02 AM

I can think of two things that will happen when Peter gets shot by a gun: (1) the bullet would totally pass through him, temporarily injuring him with a gunshot wound but he would be totally regenerated coz there's no obstruction; and (2) the bullet would hit a hard part (skeleton) and would get lodged inside of him, this has happened to Claire in the episode "Company Man" and remember that Claire just spat out the bullet after regenerating.  So yes, I see Peter regenerating in both instances bringing us back into a loop.  A tranquilizer would have serve the purpose better than a gun (Once again as seen in "Company Man"), but I guess the writers opt not to rehash the same trick again.

Nikki saw Sylar using his power to stop Parkman and deduced that Sylar is the bad guy.  And they were also together with Molly and Mohinder in the elevator, enough time for both of them to keep Micah's family in the loop.


Sir x-ran, I've just rewatched episode 17 "Company Man,"  just to see how Claire got shot in that instance.  But the way I saw it, Claire didn't got shot straight to her head!  Parkman shot her on her torso, so even if the bullet get lodged somewhere in her chest, she can still regenerate.  Thus, she just easily regurgitated that bullet after a few minutes. The idea was to incapacitate people with this ability by leaving them dead after a fatal attack to their heads.

In episode 21 "The Hard Part,"  when Peter entrusted Claire with the gun, Peter was confident enough that Claire knows where to shoot him in the back of his head, since according to him, Claire knew the spot where she pulled out that shard of glass when Peter was thought to be dead.

So, I guess, their plan would still have worked IF Claire did shoot Peter on his head, and IF she was able to shoot her specifically at the point where she's supposed to put that bullet (even at that distance?), thus effectively terminating Peter's own ability to heal and render him dead.

A tranquilizer would have also worked, I guess, but for a short time.  When Peter was starting to heat up and at the same time looking for Claire in episode 23 "How to Stop an Exploding Man," then passed out, it delayed the sort of nuclear reaction in him.  But eventually, as we all saw it, when he was back on his feet, he started to glow again, and expectedly in the thick of his fight with Sylar.  The power must have been too much really for him to contain, and that inevitably he will explode.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on May 25, 2007 at 11:51 AM
Here's a possible reason (taken from a very good review in TV.com):

Peter was fighting with every fiber of his (Hero) being against the runaway nuclear reaction. He could not divert any of his energy or concentration to another ability without losing control and immediately detonating. In fact, if he had launched himself in the air and climbed to 10,000 feet before detonating, the devastating effect on the city would have been far worse than detonating on the ground. Hint: This is why nuclear weapons are detonated at altitude instead of at surface level.



And here's the reason straight from the creator's mouth:

Tim Kring On Why Peter Didn't Fly Away  
Posted by HeroesFan on 2007/5/24 12:41:25 (410 reads) 
So one of the big questions/debates going on in the forums since the finale is "why didn't Peter just fly away by himself before he exploded"?

Here is an answer straight from the horses mouth.

Quote:


How do you stop an exploding man? Apparently, the best way is to fly him up as high as he can go, and let him explode to his heart's content.

Certainly not the most implausible way to end the first season of NBC's hit show "Heroes," but fans were left wondering why Milo Ventimiglia's character of Peter Petrelli -- who can absorb the powers of other heroes he comes in contact with -- simply didn't fly himself away when he started to go nuclear. Instead, it was up to his character's brother, newly elected congressman Nathan Petrelli (Adrian Pasdar), to use his own flying ability to rescue his brother -- and the rest of New York City.

"You know, theoretically, you're not supposed to be thinking about that," series creator Tim Kring told TV Guide's Matt Webb Mitovich and Michael Logan. However, Kring did prove correct many theories following Monday's airing that Peter was so distracted by the fact he was about to explode that he didn't have the energy or the attention span to use an of his other abilities.

Of course, that's trying to find a way to explain an action from a story standpoint. But from an entertainment factor, Kring admitted that he was much more interested in having Nathan -- who had become somewhat of a bad guy on the show in recent weeks -- to save the day.

"Yes, I will admit that there's a very tiny window of logic there, but what can I say?" Kring said. "It requires the proverbial suspension of disbelief."



Source: syfyportal
 
 

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Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on May 25, 2007 at 01:01 PM
-somewhat of a spoiler-

That 5 years after episode is an "alternate" universe, in their world the explosion happened.  and kendo is dead.


what i meant was if the explosion could kill him he wouldn't have been in the alternate universe.
in the current timeline the explosion still happened. peter still exploded, just not in the middle of the city
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on May 25, 2007 at 07:18 PM
And here's the reason straight from the creator's mouth:

Tim Kring On Why Peter Didn't Fly Away  
Posted by HeroesFan on 2007/5/24 12:41:25 (410 reads) 
So one of the big questions/debates going on in the forums since the finale is "why didn't Peter just fly away by himself before he exploded"?

Here is an answer straight from the horses mouth.

Quote:


How do you stop an exploding man? Apparently, the best way is to fly him up as high as he can go, and let him explode to his heart's content.

Certainly not the most implausible way to end the first season of NBC's hit show "Heroes," but fans were left wondering why Milo Ventimiglia's character of Peter Petrelli -- who can absorb the powers of other heroes he comes in contact with -- simply didn't fly himself away when he started to go nuclear. Instead, it was up to his character's brother, newly elected congressman Nathan Petrelli (Adrian Pasdar), to use his own flying ability to rescue his brother -- and the rest of New York City.

"You know, theoretically, you're not supposed to be thinking about that," series creator Tim Kring told TV Guide's Matt Webb Mitovich and Michael Logan. However, Kring did prove correct many theories following Monday's airing that Peter was so distracted by the fact he was about to explode that he didn't have the energy or the attention span to use an of his other abilities.

Of course, that's trying to find a way to explain an action from a story standpoint. But from an entertainment factor, Kring admitted that he was much more interested in having Nathan -- who had become somewhat of a bad guy on the show in recent weeks -- to save the day.

"Yes, I will admit that there's a very tiny window of logic there, but what can I say?" Kring said. "It requires the proverbial suspension of disbelief."



Source: syfyportal
 
 

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Excellent research work, pendrell!

So it was just done for a dramatic purpose.  I've just think of another 'loophole(?)', if you may call it that.  Sylar was able to control Ted's power... it's because his ability is to know how things work.  But Peter has been in contact with Sylar numerous times, how come he hasn't used that ability.  I think that Sylar's ability is not an active ability so in my opinion no need to be learned by Peter.  Did I just make sense or am I grasping at straws with this?  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on May 25, 2007 at 10:34 PM
Excellent research work, pendrell!

So it was just done for a dramatic purpose.  I've just think of another 'loophole(?)', if you may call it that.  Sylar was able to control Ted's power... it's because his ability is to know how things work.  But Peter has been in contact with Sylar numerous times, how come he hasn't used that ability.  I think that Sylar's ability is not an active ability so in my opinion no need to be learned by Peter.  Did I just make sense or am I grasping at straws with this?  ;D

Thanks for the compliment, sir.

Yes, I believe Sylar was able to control Ted's power, because as you said, his ability really is to know how things work.   As for Peter, though as you mentioned, that he has been in close proximity with Sylar several times, but wasn't able to harness that ability, I would think that it's because Peter really never completed his "crash" training with Claude, the invisible guy.  Thus, he never fully reached his potential of coming to that point of confidently using his own power and utilizing it to his own advantage especially in his battle with Sylar.  In essence, we all know his power is mimicry, but still, in Peter's case, it still takes time for him to master it, as we saw how he was grappling with his ability throughout the entire season.

If you remember, sir, in episodes 13 (The Fix) and 14  (Unexpected),  Claude already told Peter that it would be difficult to control his powers, but he still ended up training him, anyway.  (His instruction to Pete was to clear his mind of all attachments, but he later came on to his own realization that he would just need to remember the people whom he had met with abilities, and how he felt when he met them.)  Their training was prematurely terminated when the Primatech people became hot on Claude's tail, and for Claude dissolving their partnership immediately thinking he won't be safe with Peter and wouldn't want to risk being caught by HRG and his men.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Grandpoobah on Jun 12, 2007 at 01:21 PM
Excellent research work, pendrell!

So it was just done for a dramatic purpose.  I've just think of another 'loophole(?)', if you may call it that.  Sylar was able to control Ted's power... it's because his ability is to know how things work.  But Peter has been in contact with Sylar numerous times, how come he hasn't used that ability.  I think that Sylar's ability is not an active ability so in my opinion no need to be learned by Peter.  Did I just make sense or am I grasping at straws with this?  ;D

I think Sylar also had enough time to learn how to control ted's powers (there was this episode where he was overlooking the city and practicing those nuclear bursts in his hand).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 12, 2007 at 04:35 PM
I think Sylar also had enough time to learn how to control ted's powers (there was this episode where he was overlooking the city and practicing those nuclear bursts in his hand).

Peter absorbed the power first, so if time was the factor... he would have mastered it by then.  Notice that Peter was trying to control Ted's power the first time he got it.  While Sylar looks like he was playing with it in that scene.

I think Sylar's ability to know how things work is at play there.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: alcobobaz on Jun 12, 2007 at 11:15 PM
It looks like this year's Miss Universe winner will be having a role on Heroes' upcoming season..

"Mori said she is hoping to devote herself to her new role -- which includes acting as a spokeswoman for AIDS issues -- and is also looking for a possible role on the TV series "Heroes," broadcast by NBC, which has rights to the Miss Universe pageant.

"As soon as I won Miss Universe I had this big chance," she said. "I've never acted before. I went to the casting audition and read a script in English and Japanese, and they said it was really good. So I hope I can be in the show."

Mori said her role would be "Yaeko," a love interest for one of the main characters."


http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/13018010.html
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Munskie on Jun 13, 2007 at 01:41 PM
Love interest for Hiro???
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 13, 2007 at 04:45 PM
Love interest for Hiro???

Perhaps for the samurai warrior, who in some circles is rumored to be the same person as Hiro's dad.  He may be an immortal.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jun 17, 2007 at 12:48 PM
who in some circles is rumored to be the same person as Hiro's dad.

mukha nga.  parang si george takei yung nasa likod ng helmet.  o namalikmata lang ako...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 17, 2007 at 11:55 PM
mukha nga.  parang si george takei yung nasa likod ng helmet.  o namalikmata lang ako...

Yun nga rin iniisip ko... i mean na "Namalikmata ba ako?"
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Jun 19, 2007 at 12:30 PM
Legion of 'Heroes' Keeps Growing (http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-nickdagostojoinsheroescast,0,2136810.story?coll=zap-tv-headlines)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X-®an™ on Jun 23, 2007 at 02:47 PM
mukha nga.  parang si george takei yung nasa likod ng helmet.  o namalikmata lang ako...

Looks like it won't be George Takei after all...

Heroes adds a half-dozen (http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/story/9767.html?tag=story_list;title;0)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: JuMpSt@rT on Jun 23, 2007 at 11:51 PM
YaaaaaaaaaaTaaaaaaaa! :))
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jun 24, 2007 at 12:25 AM
A Heroes world tour was recently announced. The cast will be travelling to different countries to promote the series. Three of the countries that Hayden Panetierre mentioned were Australia, Singapore and Hong Kong. She said that those three were among the countries that they will surely visit. So near and yet so far -- I hope they decide to swing by Manila.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jul 24, 2007 at 06:22 PM
Something to watch while we're waiting for the second season...

http://www.snotr.com/video/63
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Jul 25, 2007 at 12:05 PM
more about the world tour

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/entertainment/view/284936/1/.html

looks like it'll start on Aug 28  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Jul 26, 2007 at 07:28 AM
NBC just released some cast publicity shots for the 2nd season of Heroes:

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/jeanlucpikachu/heroes_s2a.jpg)
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/jeanlucpikachu/heroes_s2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Jul 26, 2007 at 09:02 AM
no DL  ::)  does that mean he died at the end?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jul 28, 2007 at 12:03 PM
For those who've got torrent access, try to find the "Heroes Unmasked" featurette made by the BBC. It's just 13 minutes long and does not really offer much in terms of information but it's still fresh Heroes material to tide us over until the second season airs. You'll also see RPN9's logo appear in the featurette.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Aug 02, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Apparently the BBC's Heroes Unmasked "making of" documentary is not a one-off. The second episode is now available online.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Swiss Knife on Aug 02, 2007 at 05:07 PM
Sylar : Haven't I killed you before?
Peter : Didn't take.

I loved this exchange between the hero and the villain. Loved the ending as well.  It was simple but for me, it rocks !  :)

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Aug 20, 2007 at 02:25 PM
Variety reports that Kristin Bell, formerly known as Veronica Mars, is joining the cast of Heroes. Bell will be featured in a multi-episode arc during the series' second season, where her character will somehow be connected to Peter, Claire, and H.R.G.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Aug 20, 2007 at 03:07 PM
great news indeed  :D

i hope she'll be more recognized in this show
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:42 PM
kelan ba start ng 2nd season?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:46 PM
According to my Season One DVD, "New Season, New Story Begins 9/24 - NBC."  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Aug 23, 2007 at 11:47 PM
oh ok thanks!!  excited na ako eh!!  hehe  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Aug 25, 2007 at 03:38 PM
shallow question: bakit tabingi ang labi ni peter petrelli? para syang si stallone. :-\
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Aug 25, 2007 at 03:43 PM
he was born with a dead nerve on that side of the lower lip.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Aug 27, 2007 at 09:12 PM
By the way, I've seen both the Pilot that appeared a few months ago and the Pilot that was broadcast on TV -- there were a number of changes between the two, most notably in the scene where they saw the artist on the floor (the original pilot had a far more gruesome scene) and in the final scene between the two brothers.

The original pilot has a commentary on the DVD. As far as finding the artist/severed hand was concerned, they just reedited it since they realized that dealing with getting the hand reattached and the deficits/rehab would be a major issue in future episodes, since Isaac's ability to draw would be compromised. The final scene was completely reshot, however, to add more dramatic tension.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Aug 28, 2007 at 10:40 AM
Oh, so that's why they changed it. I was also guessing as much. It will be hard to reconcile a "prophetic" painter with a missing hand. It was a cool concept though.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Aug 28, 2007 at 08:13 PM
Oh, so that's why they changed it. I was also guessing as much. It will be hard to reconcile a "prophetic" painter with a missing hand. It was a cool concept though.

I didn't quite get that the scene was supposed to depict that Isaac's addiction was so bad that after handcuffing himself to the wall, he sawed off his own hand for a fix.

I'm sometimes slow that way.  :'(

 ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 01, 2007 at 02:17 AM
(http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8792/dsc00616ce0.th.jpg) (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00616ce0.jpg)

Stage is set
(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3326/dsc00466zl6.th.jpg) (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00466zl6.jpg)

Hosts
(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9610/dsc00494ez9.th.jpg) (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00494ez9.jpg)

Yatta!!! contest winner
(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6996/dsc00506hb8.th.jpg) (http://img164.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00506hb8.jpg)

Officer Parkman - Niki/Jessica - Hiro - Dr Suresh
(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3784/dsc00547ls9.th.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00547ls9.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4583/dsc00557og1.th.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00557og1.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/2243/dsc00570mv3.th.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00570mv3.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4253/dsc00579hp5.th.jpg) (http://img77.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00579hp5.jpg)


I hate to say this, but I didn't really see them during their tour  :'(  anyway, i only had 4 clean shots of them. should've brought a bigger cam  :(

btw, Greg Grunberg was a showman  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Sep 06, 2007 at 09:59 PM
I just noticed that  in Heroes,  one  character's powers are totally different from his/ her parents' powers regardless of DNA. Mica can talk to computers while his dad walks through walls and his mom is a schizo bad ass.
In comic books, a parent's powers is usually similar to his offspring's  like Green Lantern and Jade, Banshee and Siryn, the kids from Infinity Inc,etc.
Peter and Nathan Petrelli came from the same gene pool and their powers are totally different. Maybe the writers thought it would be boring if the characters had similar powers. I just thought that Claire should have at least inherited some powers from her parents.
Oh well, sabagay, yung mga anak naman ni Magneto ang layo rin ng powers sa kanya.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 24, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Less than 24 hours until the new season starts...  ;D

So are we really getting this locally on a Solar-affiliated channel on a same day/date scheme as they claimed, or will Philippine torrent downloading be at an all-time high tomorrow?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: keilu on Sep 24, 2007 at 01:14 PM
umm, isnt heroes at Solar-Crime/Suspense channel still at Season 1 (part where Isaac tried to shoot Peter)
 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 24, 2007 at 03:02 PM
are they...hehehe!!!  i thought they were just re-runs.
Title: Re: Heroes Season2 Episode1
Post by: pekspert on Sep 25, 2007 at 10:39 AM
s2e1 was so-so, a little boring at times but will still let you stay focused at some

-hiros japanese hero and idol turns out to be a white guy
 -little molly seems to have a nasty temper
- this really shouldnt be a surprise but the brothers live, flying man has grown a beard and exploding man is heavily scarred
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 25, 2007 at 05:46 PM
My thoughts on the season two premiere?

Heroes, meet shark. Now jump!

After a lot of anticipation, I was very disappointed. Hopefully it's just the transition to the new season, and the show picks up steam for me by the next episode.

Of course it didn't help matters that they killed off my favorite guest character, and that Ali Larter wasn't in the episode at all.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Sep 26, 2007 at 11:14 AM
Suresh and Parkman are lovers, that's what I'll remember most from the season debut. But seriously, it's just the first episode of a LONG season. I can't say I'm disappointed since I'm just really excited that it's back. As always, I'll be keeping an eye on Greg Beeman's blog (http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/) for his insights and behind the scenes stuff.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Sep 26, 2007 at 06:10 PM
They must have really regretted what they did at the finale. The 'sacrifice' made by the Petrellis are now insignificant. Hiro did not really kill a man.

I'm also not disappointed. Just glad to have the show back. I thought they did a good job reintroducing the characters. I'm also eager to see how 'Veronica Mars' gets in the mix.
Title: Re: Heroes Season2 Episode1
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:17 PM
s2e1 was so-so, a little boring at times but will still let you stay focused at some

-hiros japanese hero and idol turns out to be a white guy
 -little molly seems to have a nasty temper
- this really shouldnt be a surprise but the brothers live, flying man has grown a beard and exploding man is heavily scarred


peter/exploding man was fine, as seen on the last scene. the scarred guy shown on the reflection was just on nathan's head, right?  ::)

i think they did ok with the introduction of the season's new problem - the virus  :-X


They must have really regretted what they did at the finale. The 'sacrifice' made by the Petrellis are now insignificant. Hiro did not really kill a man.

I'm also not disappointed. Just glad to have the show back. I thought they did a good job reintroducing the characters. I'm also eager to see how 'Veronica Mars' gets in the mix.

is she Sylar's shiny new toy?  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on Sep 27, 2007 at 09:54 PM
Really regret I miss out this wonderful series in the TV. Finally got the DVD season 1, thus started the marathon 2 nights ago. Now chapter 7 na....hope to finish all chapters by this Sun.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 28, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Episode was okay. I didn't find it boring at all. The episode basically gives the lay of the land for the second season allowing us a glimpse of how the storyline will develop. The most obvious stoyline is hiro's. Apparently it is from him that the Kensei legend will develop.

Dobler, I also got that impression with Parkman and Suresh -- it's a domestic partnership with an adoptive kid to boot. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Dowals on Sep 28, 2007 at 04:14 PM
Really regret I miss out this wonderful series in the TV. Finally got the DVD season 1, thus started the marathon 2 nights ago. Now chapter 7 na....hope to finish all chapters by this Sun.  ;D

A heroes weekend bro paul  ;D

missed the first S2 episode, i'll just get a copy from a friend (flashdrive)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Sep 30, 2007 at 01:33 PM
Ever so slightly disappointing premiere.

But with the only casualty being an hour of my time, why gripe? No shark jumping here. . .not yet. My very slight disappointment stems not from lackadaisical pacing - - -go back to the first season and you'll find that the favors that kind of slow burn pacing, and frankly, so do I. Character over wall-to-wall action anytime. Nope it's the whiff of rehash becoming even more rank. Halfway through Heroes 1 I've sort of acclimatized to the idea that Tim Kring will be ripping off comicbook stroylines for the entire series' run and I've learned to live with it. Just wished Jeph Loeb would help him finesse his appropriating a bit. Maybe over the season. Not here, though.

And like last season's wholesale allusions to Watchmen, X Men: Days of Future Past, Rising Stars, Civil War,  this is  stuff which any self-respecting comic/TV/sci fic geek would see coming a mile away - - - the serial (or what looks like a potential serial) killing of the old guard (who are sort of like the Minutemen to the current group's Watchmen at that) is ,of course, out of  Rising Stars but more tellingly from Watchmen (is there an Ozymandias out there orchestrating all this?) , Hiro re-enacting the Kenzei legend is , of course, straight out of Michael Moorcock's Behold the Man if the arc does follow that trajectory which it most likely will knowing Tim Kring  and of course, anybody who catches Suresh's speech in the beginning knows that's Marvel's  Legacy Virus story arc they're about to tap into - - - even Adrian Pasdar's beard reminds me of Matthew Fox's beard from the last five minutes of last season's Lost, which sort of stole the thunder from Heroes for me.

Still, it was OK. Not wetting my pants and getting all giddy but will be here for the duration just to see how things pan out. One good thing is that we're spared Ali Larter's awful acting, at least for this episode. Also, the dialogue seems to be better-written this season. And then there's Stephen Tobolowsky turning that spoon into gold.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on Sep 30, 2007 at 06:26 PM
A heroes weekend bro paul  ;D

Phew just finished season 1 after 5 days & 4 nights. :D Really enjoy it. Nice ending with all the heroes crossed paths.

Hiro has never fail to make me laugh. His future self is one serious looking guy tho.. ;D

It's good to see Nikki kicked Sylar's butt!I was expecting more action from Nikki (ops I meant Jessica) who would turn violent & shooting her way in at Sylar ;D

Since Sylar doesn't posses healing or regeneration power how on earth did he survive Hiro's attack? ??? Probbaly it will be explained in the next season. I'm dyin gto know who's the other villain that will be much worse than Sylar...could it be Linderman still alive & turns really bad @$$?  :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 30, 2007 at 08:48 PM
Phew just finished season 1 after 5 days & 4 nights. :D Really enjoy it. Nice ending with all the heroes crossed paths.

Hiro has never fail to make me laugh. His future self is one serious looking guy tho.. ;D

It's good to see Nikki kicked Sylar's butt!I was expecting more action from Nikki (ops I meant Jessica) who would turn violent & shooting her way in at Sylar ;D

Since Sylar doesn't posses healing or regeneration power how on earth did he survive Hiro's attack? ??? Probbaly it will be explained in the next season. I'm dyin gto know who's the other villain that will be much worse than Sylar...could it be Linderman still alive & turns really bad @$$?  :P


future hiro's outlook in life changed and he became more serious most probably because of the death of ando.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Oct 01, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Press Release excerpt:

'HEROES' RETURNS AS MONDAY'S #1 SHOW IN ADULTS 18-49

SECOND-SEASON DEBUT OF 'HEROES' TOPS ITS YEAR-AGO SERIES PREMIERE BY 10 PERCENT IN 18-49

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BURBANK, Calif. September 25, 2007 The second-season debut of "Heroes" was Monday night's #1 show in primetime's key demographic of adults 18-49, according to preliminary "fast affiliate-based" "live plus same day" viewing figures from Nielsen Media Research. In the key 18-49 category, the season debut of "Heroes" jumped 10 percent above the show's series premiere last year on September 25, 2006.

Last night at 9 p.m. ET, "Heroes" (6.5 rating, 15 share in adults 18-49, 14.1 million viewers overall) returned as the night's #1 program in adults 18-49, topping such competition as ABC's season premiere of "Dancing With the Stars," CBS' season premieres of "Two and a Half Men" and "CSI: Miami" and Fox's "Prison Break."

"Heroes" delivered the highest 18-49 rating for any entertainment telecast on any network since the season finale of Fox's "House" on May 29.

"Heroes" won both its half-hours in adults 18-49, topping the final half-hour of "Dancing With the Stars" from 9-9:30 p.m. ET. Among adults 18-34, "Heroes" doubled its closest competition (7.3 vs. a 3.6 for ABC's "Dancing"/"Bachelor" combo). Among men 18-34, "Heroes" tripled its closest competitor (7.8 vs. a 2.5 for CBS's comedies).

This marks the top-scoring episode of "Heroes" in both 18-49 and total viewers since March 5. Versus its year-ago series-debut 18-49 results (a 5.9/14 on September 25, 2006), "Heroes" grew by 10 percent.

Preliminary 18-49 averages for Monday night are: ABC, 4.7/12; NBC, 4.6/11; CBS, 4.2/10; Fox, 2.7/7; CW, 0.7/2. In overall total viewers, September 24 preliminary results are: ABC, 15.4 million; CBS, 12.2 million; NBC, 11.0 million; Fox, 6.7 million; CW, 1.7 million

Note that all national ratings are "live plus same day" unless otherwise indicated. Metered-market household ratings are live only.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: deweyfinn on Oct 01, 2007 at 03:08 PM
Ever so slightly disappointing premiere.

But with the only casualty being an hour of my time, why gripe? No shark jumping here. . .not yet. My very slight disappointment stems not from lackadaisical pacing - - -go back to the first season and you'll find that the favors that kind of slow burn pacing, and frankly, so do I. Character over wall-to-wall action anytime. Nope it's the whiff of rehash becoming even more rank. Halfway through Heroes 1 I've sort of acclimatized to the idea that Tim Kring will be ripping off comicbook stroylines for the entire series' run and I've learned to live with it. Just wished Jeph Loeb would help him finesse his appropriating a bit. Maybe over the season. Not here, though.

And like last season's wholesale allusions to Watchmen, X Men: Days of Future Past, Rising Stars, Civil War,  this is  stuff which any self-respecting comic/TV/sci fic geek would see coming a mile away - - - the serial (or what looks like a potential serial) killing of the old guard (who are sort of like the Minutemen to the current group's Watchmen at that) is ,of course, out of  Rising Stars but more tellingly from Watchmen (is there an Ozymandias out there orchestrating all this?) , Hiro re-enacting the Kenzei legend is , of course, straight out of Michael Moorcock's Behold the Man if the arc does follow that trajectory which it most likely will knowing Tim Kring  and of course, anybody who catches Suresh's speech in the beginning knows that's Marvel's  Legacy Virus story arc they're about to tap into - - - even Adrian Pasdar's beard reminds me of Matthew Fox's beard from the last five minutes of last season's Lost, which sort of stole the thunder from Heroes for me.

Still, it was OK. Not wetting my pants and getting all giddy but will be here for the duration just to see how things pan out. One good thing is that we're spared Ali Larter's awful acting, at least for this episode. Also, the dialogue seems to be better-written this season. And then there's Stephen Tobolowsky turning that spoon into gold.

At least we get our fill of Ali Larter from "Resident Evil: Extinction".

As for the Moorcock allusion, wasn't Behold the Man the book where the hero goes back to the time of Jesus Christ's crucifixion only to find out that God's son was a babbling idiot - so he decides to take over His place on the cross????   Speaking of Moorcock, I hear his Elric saga is being developed by the Weitz brothers for a major studio - it's about time Hollywood pays its respects to a true hero of the fantasy genre.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 01, 2007 at 04:35 PM
Ali's hot. Just a bad actress. Or at least badly directed. Hope she steps up her game in Season 2. She's the series' Eliza Cuthbert, pure eyecandy with no chops.

You're right about Behold the Man , dewey. I can imagine the Weitz brothers doing Elric proud , they know their stuff. Just hope that gets people to read Moorcock the way the ads for the Golden Compass movie are making some ( a few, at least) lemmings. .  .I mean, people read the Pullman books. Unlikely but we can all hope.

Waiting for someone to take a stab at Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius myself. Or did Buckaroo Banzai already do that in an offhand way?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kixter on Oct 01, 2007 at 06:45 PM
I just finished downloading the 1st episode.. will watch it tonight!! cant wait!! hehe..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 02, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Saw the second episode of the second season. It's kinda' picking up from where the first season left off.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: deweyfinn on Oct 02, 2007 at 04:09 PM
Ali's hot. Just a bad actress. Or at least badly directed. Hope she steps up her game in Season 2. She's the series' Eliza Cuthbert, pure eyecandy with no chops.

You're right about Behold the Man , dewey. I can imagine the Weitz brothers doing Elric proud , they know their stuff. Just hope that gets people to read Moorcock the way the ads for the Golden Compass movie are making some ( a few, at least) lemmings. .  .I mean, people read the Pullman books. Unlikely but we can all hope.

Waiting for someone to take a stab at Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius myself. Or did Buckaroo Banzai already do that in an offhand way?

Btw....I'd agree that Paul Bettany (the albino baddie from The Da Vinci Code) would make a good choice to portray the alibno swordsman with his haunted blade.  Speaking of Moorcock, how about an anime version of Hawkmoon?  I've been playing Jeanne D'Arc for the PSP and somehow, going through the lenghty but well-made anime cut scenes I keep getting reminded of Hawkmoon's well-conceptualised alternate Europe.

A Jerry Cornelius movie - don't think so.  Too British - baka babauyin naman ng mga brain-dead na Hollywood studio execs iyan like what they did with the Thunderbirds franchise or even Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy (aka HG2G).         
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 02, 2007 at 10:05 PM
A Jerry Cornelius movie - don't think so.  Too British - baka babauyin naman ng mga brain-dead na Hollywood studio execs iyan like what they did with the Thunderbirds franchise or even Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy (aka HG2G).         

Yeah Hollywood would ruin it. Unless the Brits do it themselves. Some of the finest sci-fic out now are being done by the brits, albeit on TV - - - Dr.Who, Torchwood, etc. Grant Morrison writing it would be a dream. Of course he already did it with the Gideon Stargrave issues of his Invisibles comic.

Paul Bettany as Elric? That'll do. Bettany's also my second choice for John Constantine role that Keanu eventually played. First choice: Sting, whom the original comic book character of Constantine was based on.



Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 03, 2007 at 02:25 AM
The Brits often do a good job especially when it comes to sci-fi tv. I remember Edge of Darkness, though, not at all very sci-fi-ish, but it borders on that. One aspect that I like is how they exude the atmosphere. Very plausible.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 07, 2007 at 02:14 PM
Saw the second episode of the second season. It's kinda' picking up from where the first season left off.

I agree. But one thing bothered me again:

Much like "Why did Peter have to let Nathan fly him into the sky to explode when he can fly on his own?" my question this time is "Why would Peter agree to do one crime to get the contents of the box, when he knows he can easily disarm the thief and take the box whenever he damn well pleases?" It's just... stupid. I enjoyed the rest of the episode though, despite the continued absence of the hotness that is Nikki.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 07, 2007 at 02:38 PM
Could be his amnesia, hankey.

But then again he already disarmed the two thugs so that's a feeble excuse. Still an excuse, though (different from an actual reason) and one that Kring is most likely falling back on, if pressed.

It's these lapses into silliness that stops me from really loving this series. It's not one of those things where you have to shut your brain off (thank God) but most of the time it isn't that bright or sharp.

This was a better paced episode , though,and that flying toe was just a hoot!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Pasoot on Oct 07, 2007 at 03:06 PM
Could be his amnesia, hankey.

But then again he already disarmed the two thugs so that's a feeble excuse. Still an excuse, though (different from an actual reason) and one that Kring is most likely falling back on, if pressed.

It's these lapses into silliness that stops me from really loving this series. It's not one of those things where you have to shut your brain off (thank God) but most of the time it isn't that bright or sharp.

This was a better paced episode , though,and that flying toe was just a hoot!

i totally agree on that chief X44.
i also think that it's because of Peter's amnesia, or maybe the Haitian's doing? ;)
Peter seems to be no idea of whta's happening or what he is even  capable of, hence he is afraid of what he can and cannot do. remember last season he seems to be immature still.
I am wondering though when  Kristen Bell is gonna show up.  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 07, 2007 at 03:44 PM
But then again he already disarmed the two thugs so that's a feeble excuse.

Exactly. He just used that power on two criminals to help the girl, and with great control - so "amnesia" really isn't something I'd accept as an explanation. Like I said - I thought it was just... stupid!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 07, 2007 at 05:53 PM
maybe it's selective amnesia..... ;D  isn't selective amnesia medically proven to exist?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 07, 2007 at 06:34 PM
Exactly. He just used that power on two criminals to help the girl, and with great control - so "amnesia" really isn't something I'd accept as an explanation. Like I said - I thought it was just... stupid!  ;D

Agree.

I'm sure if this becomes an issue, there'll be some damage control answer but unless it's part of Kring's design, I'm willing to bet that it isn't amnesia or selective amnesia but . . .sloppy writing.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 07, 2007 at 08:55 PM
You guys still having fun watching? Or is making sense of every little detail more important? The amnesia angle is certainly possible. There are 3 types of amnesia, Anterograde, Retrograde and Global. Oh wait, I just lost myself...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 07, 2007 at 11:38 PM
You guys still having fun watching? Or is making sense of every little detail more important?

Yes.

 ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 08, 2007 at 09:47 PM
Yes and yes,dobler.

Parang tinga lang minsan yung inconsistencies, takes a little away from fully enjoying the cuisine, so to speak, but you can still taste the flavor. Does that make sense? :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 08, 2007 at 11:44 PM
Yes and yes,dobler.

Parang tinga lang minsan yung inconsistencies, takes a little away from fully enjoying the cuisine, so to speak, but you can still taste the flavor. Does that make sense? :)

Yeah, have you read Greg Beeman's (show producer) blog yet? I think you might find his musings like an after dinner mint. If you like after dinner mint, hehe...

http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 09, 2007 at 05:04 PM
Thanks for the link.

Incidentally, Herc of AICN has a sum-up of the two episodes so far and . . .well,disagree on a few nits he picks (Claire and Noah, specifically) and I seem to like the season a bit more than he does but he did take the words out of my mouth somewhat  - - specially on the Hiro situation and the silliness that was Angela thinking those thoughts.

Here it is.



Possible SPOILERS.






My ardor for “Heroes” continues to wane!

It is spinning its wheels and needs to find traction fast!

PETER. Beaten by Irishmen who want iPods. Sponge-bathed by Caitlin. Discovers he can heal. Discovers he can phase. Saves Caitlin from gangster’s son. Won’t get his driver’s license back unless he helps with a robbery. Why not just zap the guy until he gives you what you want?

CLAIRE. Loses her new Nissan (so peeping flying-boy can retrieve it?). She is also much more shocked than the viewers when her toe grows back.

NOAH. Has one of eight Isaac paintings and will search for the missing seven. Why is he working that stupid CopyKingdom job? Does he need that big CopyKingdom salary so he can give Claire the flashy Nissan? Is threatening his CopyKingdom boss the best possible way to lay low?

MATT. Investigates Nakamura’s murder. Brings in Angela Petrelli for questioning.

ANGELA. “We did something terrible and now someone wants revenge,” thinks Mama Petrelli just before something scratches her bloody inside an interrogation room. We kinda figured that out last week.

NATHAN. Still has a giant beard.

HIRO. Impersonates Kensei and saves the princess. Learns Kensei can do the cheerleader’s trick. Hiro couldn’t save his girlfriend/waitress but now he can alter and re-alter history? Since your powers are obviously firing on all cylinders, shouldn’t he maybe get back to the future in case the forces of good need help with Sylar?

MOHINDER. Cures the virus-stricken Haitian. He and Noah and the Haitian are all working together now. Quite the meh reveal!

MAYA & ALEJANDRO. Maya can cry deadly black tears; her brother can make them evaporate. “We are going to America to find a real doctor.” You and your brother and your superpower are boring.

Remember how great the episode-ending cliffhangers were last season?

Betcha Sylar works for the good guys this year.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 09, 2007 at 05:18 PM
Also check out The A.V. Club's interview with Mohinder Suresh:

http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/sendhil_ramamurthy

Possible spoilers follow...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on Oct 09, 2007 at 06:18 PM
just watched episode 3. so so episode :( parang wala ng focus yung storyline not like last season


Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 09, 2007 at 06:54 PM
maybe it will all tie and connect itself up during the latter part of the season.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Oct 10, 2007 at 07:16 AM
Give it time, people... last year, when the show premiered, critics said it was the worst new show of the year--going back to page 1 of this thread, I'll quote the Chicago Tribune comment that Reuven posted: "You could watch the first few episodes of Heroes, or you could repeatedly hit yourself on the head with a brick. The effect is surprisingly similar."

Tim Kring has mentioned several times last year that they've actually plotted the first 5 years of Heroes; not sure if they've rewritten since then.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on Oct 10, 2007 at 07:59 AM
umm, isnt heroes at Solar-Crime/Suspense channel still at Season 1 (part where Isaac tried to shoot Peter)

Is season 2 being shown in the Solar-Crime/Suspense channel na? Which day & what time is the show? :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 10, 2007 at 11:25 AM
It's a fun, often dynamic,  show that plays around with interesting concepts  . . . but lapses in logic can't be tied up like plot strands or ironed out  over a season. For example,Peter COULD HAVE/SHOULD HAVE disarmed the bad guy and gotten his personal stuff. But that would probably  mean losing some kind of buildup (i.e. viewer torture) over a few episodes. So there could be a fragile scaffolding to prop up why Peter DIDN'T do what he didn't do, all  for the sake of drawing out the situation. Fair enough. Name of the game in Network TV. Heroes isn't an HBO series after all. Maybe Kring's invoking creative license. Sloppy writing, whichever way you cut it, though,and a little annoying- - -as my friend who's a major fan of the show says: may butas,kita tali. But I still follow the thing like church.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Pasoot on Oct 10, 2007 at 01:03 PM
Is season 2 being shown in the Solar-Crime/Suspense channel na? Which day & what time is the show? :)


Nope not yet. they are still on Season 1.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 10, 2007 at 01:49 PM
It's a fun, often dynamic,  show that plays around with interesting concepts  . . . but lapses in logic can't be tied up like plot strands or ironed out  over a season. For example,Peter COULD HAVE/SHOULD HAVE disarmed the bad guy and gotten his personal stuff. But that would probably  mean losing some kind of buildup (i.e. viewer torture) over a few episodes. So there could be a fragile scaffolding to prop up why Peter DIDN'T do what he didn't do, all  for the sake of drawing out the situation. Fair enough. Name of the game in Network TV. Heroes isn't an HBO series after all. Maybe Kring's invoking creative license. Sloppy writing, whichever way you cut it, though,and a little annoying- - -as my friend who's a major fan of the show says: may butas,kita tali. But I still follow the thing like church.

Imagine if US network TV followed the British model of having just 6 to 8 episodes per season. The writers would be forced to tighten everything. Possibly even getting rid of characters like Nikki/Jessica. Hehe!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 10, 2007 at 02:12 PM
i truly enjoy the watching heroes.  i tend not to over analyze stuff regarding the series.  it is a show after all where there's a flying man and a flying boy.  how realistic really can it get.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 10, 2007 at 02:30 PM
A bit off topic but West, the flying boy and Claire's love interest played Hunter, Jan Levinson's assistant in The Office. "Kindred" was written by JJ Philbin formerly of The O.C., daughter of Regis and wife of Michael Shur, a writer/producer also of The Office.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 10, 2007 at 03:44 PM
i truly enjoy the watching heroes.  i tend not to over analyze stuff regarding the series.  it is a show after all where there's a flying man and a flying boy.  how realistic really can it get.

I enjoy it,too. And I don't think it's overanalyzing.  I think Tim Kring doesn't want his audience to shut off their brains while watching his show, the way they overeagerly do so at a Bruckheimer flick.  So I don't shut it off and these little nits nag at me as a result. Nobody goes into a piece of superhero fiction  - - or any piece of speculative fiction for that matter- - - expecting dry realism.  There's a lot of suspension of disbelief going on from the get-go and you plunge into something like this with that mindset  or else. . .well, you're f**ked.  But this is a show about how people with unreal superpowers would fare in the real world. And it becomes something of a disservice to one's imagination and intelligence when such things as those little lapses in logic occur. I mean, if we're willing to accept that things don't have to make any kind of logical sense whatsoever because it is, after all, a series "with a flying man and a flying boy", then  Tim Kring and his cohorts shouldn't bother, should they? Nor should the smarter, more sharply written Marvel and DC superhero comics out there. Have Claire's SUV transform into a robot that goes back in time and fetches Hiro for the season ender battle against the 40 ft tall Sylar in downtown Shibuya - - just because it's kewl. It's a superhero TV show - - -realism isn't crucial after all, right? ;)

Sloppy writing is the culprit here, which is fine, even impeccably-written shows like West Wing and  Deadwood had instances of that and sometimes you can live with it, sometimes you can't.  Sloppy writing - - -or that nuclear blast made Peter monumentally stupid. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 10, 2007 at 03:47 PM
A bit off topic but West, the flying boy and Claire's love interest played Hunter, Jan Levinson's assistant in The Office. "Kindred" was written by JJ Philbin formerly of The O.C., daughter of Regis and wife of Michael Shur, a writer/producer also of The Office.

The American Office - - -a show that took the efficient "6 to 8 episode per season" model of the British original and stretched it out to . . what, is it 4 seasons already? Still funny in spots but shows you how these network moneymen don't know when to stop.

Heroes without Ali Larter? I can live with that. Good acting over eyecandy any time. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 10, 2007 at 04:09 PM
I enjoy it,too. And I don't think it's overanalyzing.  I think Tim Kring doesn't want his audience to shut off their brains while watching his show, the way they overeagerly do so at a Bruckheimer flick.  So I don't shut it off and these little nits nag at me as a result. Nobody goes into a piece of superhero fiction  - - or any piece of speculative fiction for that matter- - - expecting dry realism.  There's a lot of suspension of disbelief going on from the get-go and you plunge into something like this with that mindset  or else. . .well, you're f**ked.  But this is a show about how people with unreal superpowers would fare in the real world. And it becomes something of a disservice to one's imagination and intelligence when such things as those little lapses in logic occur. I mean, if we're willing to accept that things don't have to make any kind of logical sense whatsoever because it is, after all, a series "with a flying man and a flying boy", then  Tim Kring and his cohorts shouldn't bother, should they? Nor should the smarter, more sharply written Marvel and DC superhero comics out there. Have Claire's SUV transform into a robot that goes back in time and fetches Hiro for the season ender battle against the 40 ft tall Sylar in downtown Shibuya - - just because it's kewl. It's a superhero TV show - - -realism isn't crucial after all, right? ;)

Sloppy writing is the culprit here, which is fine, even impeccably-written shows like West Wing and  Deadwood had instances of that and sometimes you can live with it, sometimes you can't.  Sloppy writing - - -or that nuclear blast made Peter monumentally stupid. ;D

i was actually just posting my take on the matter and not generalizing that others tend to overanalyze everything. ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 10, 2007 at 04:27 PM
Oh, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 10, 2007 at 09:21 PM
The American Office - - -a show that took the efficient "6 to 8 episode per season" model of the British original and stretched it out to . . what, is it 4 seasons already? Still funny in spots but shows you how these network moneymen don't know when to stop.

I still feel the show is the best sitcom currently on air, but I really think making it an hour-long show for an entire month is too much. The episodes would be so much tighter and funnier if they had stuck to the half hour format. I mean, like, Dwight Schrute is funny in small doses. An hour of a freaky character who killed a live cat by placing it in a freezer without any remorse gets a bit too grating.

Anyway, back on topic, I'm actually getting into Heroes' second season storyline already. Random episode thoughts:

1. I loved that almost immediately after the death of Sulu, they brought in Uhura.  ;D I was completely unspoiled on this, so seeing her name in the credits and waiting for her appearance was a blast.

2. The Peter storyline really annoys me. Gee, these thugs were beating you senseless about 48 hours ago, forcing you to do a crime with them. Now just because they've embraced you, you decide that it's better NOT to find out about your unknown past, and to embrace a life of... crime? Well, Peter really wasn't very smart, even in season one, when you think about it. Still, it just seems so stupid, even for him.

3. Really, what's the deal with Mohinder and Matt? They really do act like a same-sex couple.  ::)

4. Did anyone else get the feeling that panel #8 is probably a forgery, created by "the bad guys" to create distrust between Mr. Bennet and Claire? They know that he betrayed their organization for his daughter and that they've escaped and are in hiding, they know Mr. Bennet's aware of Isaac's prophecies and will be looking for these paintings - they probably want to create discord between these two to get one of them to turn on the other. I hope I'm wrong, but that was the first thing that entered my mind when I saw episode cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 11, 2007 at 01:21 AM
I still feel the show is the best sitcom currently on air, but I really think making it an hour-long show for an entire month is too much. The episodes would be so much tighter and funnier if they had stuck to the half hour format. I mean, like, Dwight Schrute is funny in small doses. An hour of a freaky character who killed a live cat by placing it in a freezer without any remorse gets a bit too grating.

Agree. Although I've never truly warmed to the American version, not out of anything it did wrong but out of everything the original did right. I still re-watch the Ricky Gervais model occasionally and still get the same laughs. Not so much the Carrell model,though.

Back on topic . . .

Heroes Episode 3  - - in which Sylar displays the extraordinary ability of cleaning bloodstained hands in the time it takes to walk out of a screen door.

Maya and Alejandro are starting to to get on my nerves. Week in week out, they run, whine, get caught, display abilities ,whine, run, whine, get caught, display abilities, whine, run, whine ,get caught, display abilities, whine . . . nothing has happened to them storywise or characterwise  in the three weeks we've seen them. Get to where you're going already, Wondertwins.

And am with you on the Peter subplot. The Reverse Regarding Henry Amnesia trope - - -good and evil are aspects of memory - - -and easing him into an antihero role is interesting but there are smarter ways of doing it. "You're one of us now . . ." then cue little sister nodding in glee  ::)   Peter's character here is just going through the same conflicts his character went through last year- - -stumbling around in a haze trying to figure out who he is, what he is. How long will this guy soulsearch anyway?  The amnesia is sort of belaboring it but it's the tastiest wrinkle in his story. And NOT opening the box - - -now there's a lame way to stretch out the season as much as they can.

And those notes in the sword  - - - and the inscription to open on the hilt that turns out to be soooo easy to open. A bit dumb eh? If Kring doesn't have a big reveal planned for this - - -or at least explain why no one bothered opening  it all these years - - -this goes in the Peter Petrelli-not-opening-the-box slot.

Felt a tingle of geek pleasure when that other Enterprise crewmember made an appearance - - -as a New Orleans doyenne ,too. Hope her story turns out to be interesting. Looks it.

Also think the last painting is  forged or at least something to that effect, if only because you could see that reveal coming all the way from middle of Season 1. It's a pretty blah reveal is all and I'd like to think Tim Kring is upping his game this season around so he's not bothering with blah reveals like that anymore. Misdirection bodes well  if only because it means he has something up his sleeve and that he's gonna make me eat all my disgruntled fan ranting  - - -like turning Mohinder and Parkman into his show's Midnighter and Apollo or bringing back Chris Eccleston's invisible man or having something happen with Claire's  . . . um, appendage. Making me eat all my disgruntled fan ranting is something I want this show to make me do as soon as possible . . . like maybe next episode?

The whole thing with Noah/Mohinder/Parkman/Molly/The Company is possibly the only interesting subplot in the series so far, the one with the most possibilities for an interesting ride.

The return of Sylar  did give the dose of endorphin the series needs at this point. (Fat Candice was a hoot) The third episode was so-so but for the scenes that he was in - - - not including that  aforementioned gaffe,of course.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:26 AM
Episode 4 (http://www.youtube.com/v/vu_azOnEWO8) could do the trick.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 11, 2007 at 02:28 AM
I always thought that Peter's inability to manifest his powers is a byproduct of his inability to control them. Not because he has an amnesia or something. I do think that he knew he possess a kind of extraordinary ability, but I believe there is something that precludes him from using it---not a psychosomatic dysfunction, but more of an emotional one. And yeah, it's a low point in the story. There is the possibility that this subplot would not contribute to the whole storyline, as far as some of the characters are concerned.

Yes, the Hispanic duo pretty much annoys me, I'd say. Whether they would do some good in the next few episodes or not, I guess they're just another filler to tilt the balance a little. But aside from that, they're just a less-burnished ornament that will garner the early boot out.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 11, 2007 at 11:49 AM
By the end of Season 1, Peter already had a sorta firm grasp of his abilities and what to do with it  but seemed pretty conflicted as to what his role in the big picture was - - -will he destroy NY or save it?  In Season 2, he goes down that road again, it seems. He knows he has abilities but he's conflicted after he almost killed the thug   - - -is he a good guy or a bad guy?

The amnesia is  an interesting wrinkle but it's actually stalling his subplot at the same time. Why rehash a character's emotional/narrative arc? Aren't you supposed to build on it? Even 24 does that.

Granted, he doesn't much have to do with regards to the big picture not that any is forming yet) but it would have been waaaay better if Peter appeared mid-season and the first six or seven episodes we're left thinking if he was indeed alive or dead. Or, hell, if he had started off as a villain, without all this lame expositiory subplot  with the thugs etc. That would've been killer.

But maybe Kring will pull a rabbit out of the hat. You';re apparently supposed to pay attention to these first few episoides the way you would an episode of Lost. Maybe Peter Petrelli went back in time, too. Long shot but better than where he seems to be at now.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 11, 2007 at 03:52 PM
i will probably wait til mid season and see if the story does progress.  it' s too premature for me to judge the series right now after three episodes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:03 PM
I'll stick with this 'til the end most likely. I waited months for season 2.

I'm just pretty bored with it right now. And I never got bored with this series in Season 1 - - -it always came out the gate running, even during its lamer episodes. I just expected Season 2 to have a higher level of excitement.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 11, 2007 at 04:11 PM
i know what you mean.  during the first season lagi akong bitin at the end of every episode...yes even the first episode.  for season 2...ngayon third episode lang ako bitin.  the first two episodes did not do the same for me.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 12, 2007 at 10:10 PM
I forgot Candice was also in Season 1  ;D  She seems more powerful this time, that's why I believe she's still alive.

Knowing that the mighty Sylar is a mutant serial killer and still got tricked...by a powerless Sylar  ???
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 14, 2007 at 06:10 PM
looks like it's RPN that's carrying the new season and not Crime Suspense.. saw their commercial and it says it's coming this October..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 14, 2007 at 06:27 PM
Interestingly, the Wikipedia entry for RPN 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Philippines_Network) says Heroes Season 2 already airs on Sundays at 8PM.

Could it be?  :o

ETA: Apparently not. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 15, 2007 at 03:06 PM
Waiting for Kristen Bell? (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6378)  ;)

Bell will make her first “Heroes” appearance in October. She’ll play Elle, a character described as a sexy, mysterious young lady who has ties to the supposed death of Peter, H.R.G.’s past and the future of Claire. Elle will kick off her arc by committing a serious crime, though it’s unclear whether she’s good or bad.


I tried to search on what her powers are and I keep getting it's something electric  8)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kings5504 on Oct 16, 2007 at 11:28 AM
From the previews following tonight's episode, Kristen Bell will be showing up on next week's ep!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: TeddyCuds on Oct 16, 2007 at 12:31 PM
wanna bet that Takeso Kensei is the one who killed Hiro's father? The helix is his insignia right? and would you believe that Kensei is in fact IMMORTAL?  ;D

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 16, 2007 at 02:20 PM
Bell will make her first “Heroes” appearance in October. She’ll play Elle, a character described as a sexy, mysterious young lady who has ties to the supposed death of Peter, H.R.G.’s past and the future of Claire. Elle will kick off her arc by committing a serious crime, though it’s unclear whether she’s good or bad.


Well, I guess Greg Beeman (according to his blog) already revealed the character's supposed "loyalty". I'll still wait and see, though.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 16, 2007 at 03:10 PM
Can't resist and looked for that blog. If that's true then there are 3 villains for Season 2 - Sylar, Bell, and Molly's Boogeyman, unless one of them become an anti-hero  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Oct 16, 2007 at 04:57 PM
Question: Did Matt already know last season that the baby his wife was carrying wasn't his, or was that just revealed in this week's episode? I really don't remember it from last year.

I just realized that without a Peter storyline, I enjoyed this week's episode so much more!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 16, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Question: Did Matt already know last season that the baby his wife was carrying wasn't his, or was that just revealed in this week's episode? I really don't remember it from last year.

I just realized that without a Peter storyline, I enjoyed this week's episode so much more!  ;D

I think it's in the four month blind spot the show isn't showing us yet, together with DL's fate etc
- - -although why it took Hiro four months to get up off the grass and into the nearby forest with Kenzei is yet another thing that nags at my brain. The first episode was called Four Months Later and I assumed that included Hiro,too.

There could be a lot revealed when they show the Four Months Before episode down the line. Or maybe not. I think there's also a lot of crucial info to be found in the graphic novels and other peripheral stuff which I find a bit silly of the producers to make so aggressively co-dependent since not everyone is geek enough to bother with anything outside the TV show.

Haven't seen Episode 4 yet but I'm hoping it is a lot better than the last three. I'm still waiting for anybody who's actively enjoyed the last three episodes to make sense of Hiro's notes in the sword for me.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 16, 2007 at 09:59 PM
I think Hiro's notes are mere portents of events to come---which is oddly inexplicable for Ando to find them at the sword's hidden hilt cache (except maybe he has this strange ability to prod things that needs excessive prodding, or he is just an overcurious fella). It might tell us who exactly Takezo Kensei is, who, I think the writers need to fully develop since much of the story arc revolves around him.

One thing also that bothers me is if Hiro has the capacity to alter future events, and with his messing/rectifying up the Kensei timeline, would that have important repercussions on what transpired with season one?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 02:25 AM
Never mind the time/space conundrums. I'm not even going there.

Ando opened it, wedge , I think, because the hilt said "Ando. Open" in Japanese.

And ,actually what bothers me about the notes are not the notes or the concept behind the notes per se  . . .but something very elementary.

An ancient sword ,probably a hundred years at least, the focus of major study, a major (or at least semi-major) museum artifact in fact prodded over years and years by experts (and maybe mostly by Lindermann, that much I give it) , with a hilt that reads "open".

And not only is it soooo easy to open but . . .

 . . .nobody opens it.




(Of course, Kring could be a JJ Abrams and pull a twist out of that that would knock all our socks off. Like maybe Linderman did open it and a virtual database of things to come landed on his lap, courtesy of Hiro. I could sort of buy that. Sort of. But we'll see.)


Maybe I'm overthinking this. Or maybe just thinking. (Must.Shut.Brain.Off.) ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 17, 2007 at 03:03 AM
Oh, I stand corrected then. Hehe, thanks for clarifying that. Sometimes, I'm beginning to think the degree of Ando's importance to the show: if he's just an ornamental sidekick or a Dr. Watson to an unsuspecting Sherlock Holmes. Especially now that his screentime starts to wane...

Re: the notes. Those scribbled at the bottom of the hilt could, I'd surmise, be an effect caused by the ripples made by Hiro's teleportation. One reason why it escaped scrutiny by the people who studied it.

Well, that's just me. Yep, maybe the writers have some rabbits on a hat that they'll pull later on.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 17, 2007 at 10:22 AM
@X44  -  i see your point.  an artifact hidden in the vault of mr. linderman...maybe mr. linderman has indeed read the notes already that's why he was behind everything and planned for everything for the coming events.  also why the hell were the notes still in there.  i'm sure mr. linderman's personal curator has studied everything about the sword already.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 12:25 PM
That's the most plausible train of events, dvd freak. Although why Linderman and his cohorts would leave the notes there is what stretches credibility.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 12:28 PM
Well, that's just me. Yep, maybe the writers have some rabbits on a hat that they'll pull later on.

If Tim Kring's writing this all by his lonesome, I'd be more lenient - - - he's only human and it's not easy. But he's got a boardroom full of highly-paid writers on this, some of them veterans, like Jeph Loeb. They better have a few rabbits in their hats or else these lapses are just unforgivable.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Oct 17, 2007 at 01:04 PM
Finally got up to speed with the second season. The first episode for me was ok. Not very disappointing. But the second and third episodes just leave so many obvious narrative and logical lapses that it really keeps you from being immersed completely. The sword notes are the most glaring, I think. The fourth episode is an improvement and hopefully this means that the show is starting to hit its stride again.

Personally, I think the show is becoming overburdened by so many subplots. The first season masterfully handled it but then it had fewer characters than this season's. Kring mentioned before that their plan is to follow comicbook narrative methods in that each season could focus on certain characters and leave out other character's stories for other seasons. From the four episodes I've seen it looks like that plan is not being followed. Did Kring change his mind or could this be a sign of network pressure on Kring and his team to cram in all of the characters in case some fans might get disappointed that their favorites are not appearing this season?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 02:33 PM
Season 1 had a fairly simplistic, derivative but admittedly cohesive and entertaining arc: the "heroes" discover their powers but one of them goes rogue and goes after them as they  slowly come together . . .to save New York from a dire fate. It was, and still is, about the friction of extraordinary people  rubbing up against the ordinary world.

Season 2 has nothing new on the table yet - - -we've seen duplicating powers in the last season so Kenzei doing a Claire and West doing a Nathan isn't really special, we've also had a murder mystery before so the old heroes being stalked one by one isn't new anymore (and who else is left to kill after Angela?), we've seen Peter go conflicted and emo before too, we've seen all of them try to integrate themselves into the ordinary world. Then there's those Wondertwins. Plus . . .they're seperated again. I mean you've got a bunch of superpowered people here and they're afraid of a "company". Granted, they're missing their two most powerful members - - -Petrelli and Hiro - - but wouldn't they have more of a fighting chance if they just banded together and help each other figure out their powers, destinies, etc.

My wish is that Kring is a master of misdirection and that he will tie alll this up wonderfully. That Four Months Before episode better kick major butt.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 02:39 PM
Oh, I stand corrected then. Hehe, thanks for clarifying that. Sometimes, I'm beginning to think the degree of Ando's importance to the show: if he's just an ornamental sidekick or a Dr. Watson to an unsuspecting Sherlock Holmes. Especially now that his screentime starts to wane...

Ando's the quintessence of the comic book sidekick, really. He's Hiro's Rick Jones. Of course he could have powers, too. Dig his Eraserhead do, though.

Hiro's story is starting to bore me and, as one fan said in some mesaage board, you know there's something the matter with Heroes if Hiro starts to bore you. I really think Hiro's the center of gravity of this series.


For a more obvious Holmes/Watson parallel, check the dynamic between House/Wilson in House MD. Singer and his cohorts have admitted that Holmes was their model for the House character - - - medical detective, drug habit, lives in 222B - - - but stops at having Watson/Wilson ghost-solve the cases.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 17, 2007 at 04:08 PM
From Sendhil Ramamurthy's AV Club interview:

This season we're not going to have one overarching storyline. The first 23 episodes of last season were "Volume One," and this season the first episode through the eleventh episode are "Volume Two" and that's going to wrap up at the end of the eleventh episode. Then a new story starts "Volume Three," and "Volume Four" ends the season. We're telling more compact stories to avoid having a 23-episode build-up that's inevitably going to be a letdown for some people.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 04:37 PM
Episode 4's relatively better.

New kid with powers shows it off before episode ends - - -that's the way to do it, not how the Wondertwins subplot plays out, who are still in Mexico albeit with Sylar in tow riding Claire's stolen SUV. Less lapses in logic. Slightly better pacing. Writing still sucks in places. There's nothing to chew on with the West/Claire romance, though, but it doesn't meander as much. And there is  one juicy tidbit involving Parkman that could potentially be interesting. And sans the wildly inconsistent and implausible Peter and Hiro stories, there's also a feeling of coherence and cohesion - - it's tighter.

Still no wow factor on the level of  . . .oh, say, Claire waking up in the autopsy room from the first season but it has picked up a bit.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 17, 2007 at 05:52 PM
Another development you might also find welcome X is the separation of Micah and Nikki. Greg Beeman's latest blog points out their plan is for Micah to branch out a bit with his cousins in New Orleans.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 17, 2007 at 06:05 PM
Yeah. That kid Micah's infinitely more interesting than his mom. Not as hot, though. :) I like the Micah In Post-Katrina New Orleans subplot mostly for Uhura. It's a geek thing. ;D

Pepful girl cousin's mimicky powers are neat, too. Just don't remember which comic character they're shoplifting that one from. Micah, of course, is a little bit of Doug from Claremont-era New Mutants and Mayor Hundred from Ex Machina. Potentially destructive power he has, too, almost on the scale of Hiro or Petrelli, in terms of offense.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Reuven Malter on Oct 17, 2007 at 06:43 PM
Mimicky powers? Wouldn't that be the Marvel villain, Taskmaster?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 17, 2007 at 08:14 PM
Mimicky powers? Wouldn't that be the Marvel villain, Taskmaster?

Yeah. That kid Micah's infinitely more interesting than his mom. Not as hot, though. :) I like the Micah In Post-Katrina New Orleans subplot mostly for Uhura. It's a geek thing. ;D

Pepful girl cousin's mimicky powers are neat, too. Just don't remember which comic character they're shoplifting that one from.

According to TVsquad, she's got powers similar to Echo aka Ronin, a supporting character in Daredevil.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 18, 2007 at 01:04 AM
Taskmaster - - yeah.

Echo,eh? Maya Lopez.

Must re-read my Daredevils.Echo came out during David Mack's run and she was, to my knowledge, deaf and  could replicate whatever physical ability she was in close contact with. The fight between Electra and Daredevil in that dreadful Ben Affleck Daredevil movie was lifted chapter and verse form a fight scene in the Mack arc. She was Ronin for a time in the Bendis-Yu New Avengers, although, as of my last issue read, the ressurrected Clint Barton aka Hawkeye is the new Ronin.

Oh wait,wait . . .Micah's cousin's powers are exactly like . . . Hiro's girlfriend Charlie. ::)

Apparently, the ratings have been in a steady decline since Epsiode 1, meaning a lot of people are getting smarter and have started losing interest. It appears that most of America isn;t too keen on shutting its brains off when watching this series. Not anywhere else, I'm presuming,
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 24, 2007 at 02:19 AM
Mars attacks in Heroes!  ;D Hehe.

Though there lingers a huge doubt on which side she is...and is she a lone operator or works for someone, um, say the company?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 24, 2007 at 10:15 AM
Mars attacks in Heroes!  ;D Hehe.

Though there lingers a huge doubt on which side she is...and is she a lone operator or works for someone, um, say the company?

Ah yes, The Onion's AV Club calls her Darth Veronica. Who's her Daddy? I am! (In my dreams anyway).  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 24, 2007 at 11:59 PM
She's still tracking down people  ;D ;D ;D

And the first episode to not have Claire-bear? I don't miss her at all.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 25, 2007 at 10:42 AM
I had high hopes for Kristin Bell's episode but sadly Episode 5 continues the downslide of quality. Except for the tantalizing possibility that Matt Parkman's abilities will evolve into something else, it was still underwhelming and still silly. An improvement over the last four episodes but that isn't saying much as the last four episodes were crap.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 26, 2007 at 10:42 AM
Season 2 starts on the 29th at Crime Suspense..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 26, 2007 at 11:11 AM
Thanks for the update. Do you know what time will it be shown?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: boredfilmmaker on Oct 26, 2007 at 11:26 AM
Thanks for the update. Do you know what time will it be shown?

I think same time as before.. 9-10pm just before Prison Break S3.. season 2 on RPN starts on sunday, the 28th at 8pm..
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 30, 2007 at 10:56 AM
I hate to admit it, but Heroes is beginning to wear me off. They've yet to establish a plausible course of the plot, and not some convoluted setpiece that wriggles its way just to make it to the 22nd episode.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Oct 30, 2007 at 03:42 PM
Sixth episode was bleeh. And Hiro's subplot is really starting to wear thin.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 30, 2007 at 05:01 PM
Sophomore-slumping Heroes is turning out to be one big disappointment. Well, at least , to a few of us here, from the looks of it. Anybody still enjoying this? Curious to know if there's anything good in it that I'm missing   . . . outside of blind faith in anticipation that something good will happen . . .next episode or the next episode after that or the next episode after that.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Oct 30, 2007 at 05:17 PM
Sophomore-slumping Heroes is turning out to be one big disappointment. Well, at least , to a few of us here, from the looks of it. Anybody still enjoying this? Curious to know if there's anything good in it that I'm missing   . . . outside of blind faith in anticipation that something good will happen . . .next episode or the next episode after that or the next episode after that.

Kill Nikki.

Bring Hiro back to the present.

Get rid of the black eye twins.

More Darth Veronica.

More Logan. More Mac. Opps, wrong show...  ;D

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 30, 2007 at 06:18 PM
And bring Kara Thrace back! Oops wrong show din. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 31, 2007 at 02:18 AM
Hopefully, Heroes won't be a one-season-wonder. Now that they messed up the space/time continuum that they really diverted from what makes the show ticks.

Well, probably because Jeannot Swarcz directed it, who ironically, also tried to mess up time travel with Somewhere in Time...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 31, 2007 at 08:35 AM
The thing with time travel stories is you never really can tell. It could be that the Kensei of legend is really Hiro and it's really Hiro who gets the girl.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 31, 2007 at 09:39 AM
yup..episode 6 is pretty lame.  considering the story arc for chapter 2i s what...11-13 episodes?  the shows pace better pick up.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 31, 2007 at 10:56 AM
Heroes has just been de-prioritized on my download queue. I'd still see this sucker through if only because of the goodwill it got from me with Season 1.

One season wonder,eh? Could be. Just didn't think a show with this much going for it would jump the shark so soon.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Oct 31, 2007 at 11:04 AM
I believe second seasons are more of breakout seasons, like for instance, X-Files, which I think had their best episodes written on Season 2. But then, I just hope that it's too early to conclude of Heroes' downhill plunge (that is if their writers has not yet pulled them rabbits, it's about time to do so).


Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Oct 31, 2007 at 03:50 PM
Agree on X Files. A lot of shows that get picked up for second seasons usually get better 
- - -Battlestar Galactica, Deadwood, 24. But Heroes ain't any of this. Either Tim Kring's a mad genius with something radical up his sleeve or a hack in deep trouble. Should we start shutting off our brains now to enjoy this?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 01, 2007 at 01:48 AM
Crap, not even a glimpse of Elle  >:(  Don't you think it has too many subplots already for the main story to move on? And the future NY scene is totally cheap f/x. Please, I expect more from these big-budgeted shows... that is still airing while my other fave series are cancelled  >:( ;D :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 02, 2007 at 02:04 PM
Crap, not even a glimpse of Elle  >:(  Don't you think it has too many subplots already for the main story to move on? And the future NY scene is totally cheap f/x. Please, I expect more from these big-budgeted shows... that is still airing while my other fave series are cancelled  >:( ;D :P

Sometimes I'm not really sure what is the main plot and what is the subplot. I just think the whole thing's a heap of distangled mess. Maybe Kring should make the proper organization and not give his writers the complete freedom in developing the storyline.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 08, 2007 at 01:43 PM
From EW.com

'Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans

Tim Kring admits mistakes were made at the beginning of season 2, but promises to get back on track
''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro

On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 08, 2007 at 04:43 PM
Even Tim Kring thinks his show sucks. Wonder how the talkbacks will look like now specially among the faithful few. Hehe.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 08, 2007 at 05:01 PM
Even Tim Kring thinks his show sucks. Wonder how the talkbacks will look like now specially among the faithful few. Hehe.

Five stages yan pre. I think they're in denial right now with the writer's strike and all. They should be like Homer Simpson when he ate that blowfish and went through all 5 stages in under a minute. Hehe!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 08, 2007 at 06:39 PM
i am still a fan of the show...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 08, 2007 at 06:57 PM
Five stages yan pre. I think they're in denial right now with the writer's strike and all. They should be like Homer Simpson when he ate that blowfish and went through all 5 stages in under a minute. Hehe!  ;D

Yeah, probably. Although madami dami na ding talkbackers who have smartly moved past denial. Umamin na yung mismo gumawa e. Hehe.

Kring says he's planning a reboot, which is what they do in comics when the material goes stale. Obviously Kring has the good sense and the good taste to admit that his own creation is experiencing massive problems and getting rather bland. Good for him and good luck with the reboot ,if it pushes through. Personally, I'm looking forward to it. I just saw Ep. 7 and it has improved in terms of excitement and pacing (Daniel Attias is a competent craftsman, I liked his Silver Bullet) but it's still not reaching the bar they set for themselves with Season 1. Maybe when we get to the December 3 episode. We are back in "save-the-cheerleader-save-the-world" mode again apparently or maybe we never left.  Too bad about the Origins spinoff being suspended, though.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 11, 2007 at 04:58 AM
Yeah, I think the previous episode somehow got the whole nine yards closer to a first down. Hehe.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: lord_vader on Nov 12, 2007 at 12:57 PM
The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3.

What?? So we are now down to the last 4 episodes? Just when things are beginning to heat up?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kings5504 on Nov 12, 2007 at 01:23 PM
^

Sure looks like it. Not just for Heroes, but the majority of the shows on the air right now. That writer's strike sure was able to strike a big blow to the current TV season.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 12, 2007 at 07:43 PM
Just when things are beginning to heat up?

Yeah, I was about ready to give up on the show, then BAM!

It got a reprieve from me, which is different from what happened when I got fed up with Lost early in its second season.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 14, 2007 at 11:20 AM
Episode 8 should have been the second season debut. Oh and Darth Veronica's appearance is proof once again why Kristin Bell is the bomb.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 14, 2007 at 11:35 AM
kristin bell was hot here in ep8.  she plays it so well.  comes so naturally!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 14, 2007 at 12:02 PM
kristin bell was hot here in ep8.  she plays it so well.  comes so naturally!

Amen brother!  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 14, 2007 at 03:07 PM
wow!  :o  :o  episode 8 brought everything together very nicely!

buhay pa pala si TK?!! how? can't wait to find out how. :) tagal pa ng next episode!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 14, 2007 at 08:24 PM
buhay pa pala si TK?!! how? can't wait to find out how. :) tagal pa ng next episode!

I'm wondering if we watched the same episode 8, or if you're referring to a spoiler for a future episode.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 15, 2007 at 09:13 AM
I'm beginning to think who's the real villain now...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 15, 2007 at 10:34 AM
I'm wondering if we watched the same episode 8, or if you're referring to a spoiler for a future episode.

yep, same episode.

TK (don't wanna mention his name lest i spoil the episode for everyone but that's his legend name ;) ) was with Peter when they esc****, remember? he's one of (if not) the first with powers (healing). ;) maybe the reason why he survived and haven't aged! ;)

was just surprised to find him there with peter. didn't expect that a bit.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 15, 2007 at 11:44 AM
yep, same episode.

TK (don't wanna mention his name lest i spoil the episode for everyone but that's his legend name ;) ) was with Peter when they esc****, remember? he's one of (if not) the first with powers (healing). ;) maybe the reason why he survived and haven't aged! ;)

was just surprised to find him there with peter. didn't expect that a bit.


Wait. Is this the same TK that walked in the door and introduced himself to Peter at the end of episode 7?
Or was there another surprise reappearance to Peter of a dead character in Episode 8, which I still haven't seen?

If it's the same TK who had his surprise reveal iat the end of episode 7, how he managed to survive has been pretty much established since Episode 3 or so. He regenerates. Like Claire, who survived a nuclear explosion last season.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 15, 2007 at 02:40 PM
yep, same episode.

Ah, ako pala yung hilo...

I didn't know you were referring to Takezo Kensei, I just saw two initials and assumed that you were talking about Nikki's husband, who clearly died in episode 8. DL pala yun, hindi TK...

Hirap ng tumatanda, oo...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 15, 2007 at 02:49 PM
....maybe they are using the same formula as they did with the Bennett character...a bad guy....or is he a good guy....or maybe a bad guy...so he is a good guy.... :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 16, 2007 at 01:26 AM
Flirty Veronica!  :P

So does that mean Bob is her daddy?  ;)

I pity her though. She's like Rogue of the X-Men.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 16, 2007 at 02:32 AM
Why the comparison with Rogue? Bell's character can control her power, right?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 16, 2007 at 10:01 AM
I mean limited physical contact  ;D  I guess that's why she likes Peter since he can heal. BTW, she's still not totally in control of her power, right? Or did she electrocute Peter on purpose during their kissing scene?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 16, 2007 at 07:12 PM
Ah, ako pala yung hilo...

I didn't know you were referring to Takezo Kensei, I just saw two initials and assumed that you were talking about Nikki's husband, who clearly died in episode 8. DL pala yun, hindi TK...

Hirap ng tumatanda, oo...  ;D

yep, that's who i'm referring to. ;)  was really surprised to see him in the present!  :o can't wait to find out more. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 16, 2007 at 08:25 PM
yep, that's who i'm referring to. ;)  was really surprised to see him in the present!  :o can't wait to find out more. :)

If you read IMDb message boards, this isn't a surprise anymore cause a lot of fanboys have predicted this already. Of course, before Episode 8 was aired it was all just theories  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 16, 2007 at 08:46 PM
Of course, before Episode 8 was aired it was all just theories  ;D

Yeah and he already appeared at the end of Episode 7. Him cropping up  in Episode 8 should be a given, I would think.

Good, then. Akala ko, may nagpakita pang nakakagulat sa episode 8 at na-spoil na ko.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 16, 2007 at 09:36 PM
If you read IMDb message boards, this isn't a surprise anymore cause a lot of fanboys have predicted this already. Of course, before Episode 8 7 was aired it was all just theories  ;D

Oops, sorry my mistake. Should be Episode 7  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 20, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Wow!  Great episode!  Better than episodes 7 and 8!

Best so far!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on Nov 20, 2007 at 07:17 PM
the series is starting to pick up! the series really should have started at episode 7
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Nov 20, 2007 at 07:53 PM
i agree!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 21, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Cloverfield: Slusho Appears on Heroes
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/11/20/cloverfield-slusho-appears-on-heroes/
http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/2007/11/season-2-episode-9-cautionary-tales.html

WTF!?, The internets geeks just wet themselves...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 21, 2007 at 07:18 PM
yep!! ang ganda nga!!  :o :o very dramatic!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 21, 2007 at 08:53 PM
Wow, this week's episode RULES!

I take back 95% of my criticism of this season earlier in this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 22, 2007 at 02:21 PM
It's amazing how they (whoever wrote a particular episode) manage us to shift our sympathies from one character to another. I mean, the uncertainty of a character's loyalty, makes you empathize with him/her even if at one point you'd feel totally against them.

The previous' one of the best I've seen of a Heroes episode, and although a diversion from the usual "Save the World" storyline. I'm just wondering how they will wrap this one up.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 22, 2007 at 02:32 PM
I mean limited physical contact  ;D  I guess that's why she likes Peter since he can heal. BTW, she's still not totally in control of her power, right? Or did she electrocute Peter on purpose during their kissing scene?

Yup, that was on purpose. She's a sociopath, remember? :) She gets her kicks out of inflicting pain.

This week's episode was awesome. The writers outdid themselves in basically tying up most of the loose ends in one very tight narrative. You know that you're watching a well written episode when it feels more than just an hour and yet you don't ever get bored.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 22, 2007 at 04:55 PM
Yup, that was on purpose. She's a sociopath, remember? :) She gets her kicks out of inflicting pain.

Yes Darth Veronica is a crazy one. She probably has an emotional age of 12 with major daddy issues. The episode contained one scene of hers that's etched in my brain at the moment: Elle all tied up and wet. If it were up to me she should have been wearing a bathing suit. Too bad it was a couple of scenes early. Hehe  ;D

Somewhat funny comment I read on AVclub, Ms. Bell's character is named Elle as in Elle-ctricity. Hehe  :) There's also speculation that Bob isn't her biological father...
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This week's episode was awesome. The writers outdid themselves in basically tying up most of the loose ends in one very tight narrative. You know that you're watching a well written episode when it feels more than just an hour and yet you don't ever get bored.

That's writer and not writers. This week's episode was written by Joe Pokaski who also was responsible for "Fallout" and "Five Years Gone" from last season. Here's what producer/director Greg Beeman's take:

I don’t know how old Joe is, but he seems young to me (of course “young” seems to be moving upwards every year.) He is super enthusiastic and collaborative – but mostly I think he “gets” HEROES, as well as anyone. So far he has written three episodes of the show: “FALLOUT,” and “5 YEARS GONE,” from last season - And now this one. What’s noteable about all three of those is, not just that they all turned out great, but that, other than for budgetary reasons, none of them were extensively re-written from the first draft. That is an extremely good thing. Sometimes, when we get a script (usually 10 days or so before we start shooting it) they are troubled. There have definitely been “all hands on deck” preps for some episodes, and that can really divert energy that is needed elsewhere. But Joe’s shows have uniformly come out of the gate both creatively satisfying and shootable.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 22, 2007 at 07:58 PM
.....this scenario also got me thinking....

Did Suresh intentionally shoot Noah in the eye so that he(my assumption) can revive Noah later by using Claire's blood?

...at the end we see Noah in a sort of stockroom.  I assume he was hidden there on purpose.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 22, 2007 at 08:44 PM
Thanks for that info, Dobler. Ever since reading the writing process for Heroes I have assumed that all of the episodes are written by a pool of writers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 23, 2007 at 03:25 AM
I still can't believe Mohinder killed Noah just to save Bob?!? Sorry, I'm still in shock right now  ;D But I know... No Bob, no Company. No Company, no funds for the cure.

And anybody here thinks that Adam and Peter saved Noah, not Mohinder?

Or maybe even Elle just to get even with Bob. But it's still too early though to get even with dad as she hasn't even cleared anything yet. But looking at her on the last episode, she looks like she'll change sides, and maybe join Peter  ;)

Anyhow, if that's Claire's blood, does that mean she's also immortal like Adam? Poor Niki won't have a single drop left  ;D


And what's too dangerous with Adam anyway?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 23, 2007 at 06:05 AM
Here's what I thought:

I think Suresh killed Bennet merely to fulfill what was in the painting. Both of them knew that anyway. The only thing missing would be the circumstance (which the episode gladly bequeathed us). Hence, the whole handoff was predestined by Isaac Mendez's prophecy.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 23, 2007 at 10:44 AM
Cautionary Tales -  - -7 out of 10. I think Heroes started to improve as soon as  they bought Hiro back to the present. Liked it when he met his younger self at his mother's funeral.

Wondered why Elle didn't put up a fight on the way to meeting up with Mohinder and Bob when she was all dry and dressed and could use her Electrawoman powers. Hmmmm.

Or why she tried it out while her feet were dipped in water when she very well knew what effect it would have on her  - - -elementary science. Besides, she was at a pool earlier unless she didn't go swimming. I guess that was just Tim Kring spoonfeeding his audience lest some tool would wonder why she had her feet in a tub. The effect was Ok but unnecessary  - - -a nit.

Last scene was a few notches shy but almost up there with the scene from Season 1 when Claire woke up on an autopsy slab. Obviously, Claire and Adam Monroe have the same powers. This season's big theme,after all, has been duplicating powers.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 23, 2007 at 11:06 AM
Wondered why Elle didn't put up a fight on the way to meeting up with Mohinder and Bob when she was all dry and dressed and could use her Electrawoman powers. Hmmmm.

Elle would've been killed easily by HRG, she knew what he's capable of. She can escape, but not enough time to fight back.

And she's probably having doubts with her father already.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 23, 2007 at 11:29 AM
Elle would've been killed easily by HRG, she knew what he's capable of. She can escape, but not enough time to fight back.

And she's probably having doubts with her father already.

A stretch but probable although I think she could've escaped if she wanted to, after all she managed to pick off two people flying miles away from her with just a quick, single blast, what's two guys in a car. Just wished they came up with a more clever way of restraining her. I thought dipping her feet in water and dousing her was rather interesting.

Who's HRG?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 23, 2007 at 11:59 AM
Elle's incapacity could probably be because she was bound. But then, she could've easily shred the knots like how she blasted that poor lemonade at the poolside...

HRG is Bennet, X. It's an acronym for Horn Rimmed Glasses.

The ending was reminiscent of the Claire autopsy, but the big question is keeping Bennet alive. If both Bob and Suresh knew that he is capable of bringing down the Company, why the reanimation?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 23, 2007 at 12:09 PM
The ending was reminiscent of the Claire autopsy, but the big question is keeping Bennet alive. If both Bob and Suresh knew that he is capable of bringing down the Company, why the reanimation?

I don't think Bob would resurrect him. If it's Suresh, could be because of his guilt. Or Elle might want to know more about her childhood, and get even with daddy. And we also have Adam and Peter, who need his influence to destroy the Company.

BTW, anyone else thought/hoped Peter was Kaito's killer?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 23, 2007 at 12:21 PM
I don't think Adam Monroe and Spongebob Petrelli know of Bennet's existence. Even if they do, they are powerful enough to take the Company. And that makes Bennet expendable to the show, unless Jack Coleman's getting fat paychecks to remain for a few more seasons...

Well, I would've hoped Spongebob's the culprit. But that would take him off the conformities. The good guy turns bad and Sylar, vice-versa. That would be jumping the shark too soon.


Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 23, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Spongebob  ;D ;D ;D

Peter may not, but Adam might've been visited by HRG. But them saving him is too much thinking already. So besides his immortality, what could be Adam's other powers that make him oh so powerful that the Company is afraid of. I wonder if a bullet in the head can't even kill him  ;)

Also, with this episode's finale, viewers should no longer be afraid of their favorite characters dying.  :-\

BTW, any news on the strike?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 23, 2007 at 01:04 PM
If Claire's blood can regenerate the large hole in what was Bennet's eyeball, and if they have the same ability as that of Adam, then maybe even a slug in the skull wouldn't do much good to snuff him (Monroe) for good. What I'm thinking is Claire and Monroe's genetic makeup. Having similar powers could have consanguinary reasons---but I could be wrong, though.

Not much news re: WGA strike. Said that negotiations will resume next week.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 23, 2007 at 01:29 PM
Elle's incapacity could probably be because she was bound. But then, she could've easily shred the knots like how she blasted that poor lemonade at the poolside...

Mismo. Big lapse there, in my book. And one that could've been remedied without fuss.

HRG is Bennet, X. It's an acronym for Horn Rimmed Glasses.

Oops. Sorry bout that. Don't keep up with codes. :)

The ending was reminiscent of the Claire autopsy, but the big question is keeping Bennet alive. If both Bob and Suresh knew that he is capable of bringing down the Company, why the reanimation?

Perfectly fine with having Bob or Suresh behind the re-animation . . .no lapse there if that's what happened. I'm thinking Noah . . este, HRG ;D . . .is now a prisoner of the Company.

Having Petrelli or Adam behind the resurrection would be a bit more preposterous/ridiculous/contrived. Jump the shark there if that happens.

Oh, and if Adam has the same powers as Claire, then he has a sort of weakness. It's been belabored enough times in the first season.

Just a thought, though, did Adam go through his life in ancient Japan not getting even a scratch? I mean he only became aware of his healing powers after  he met Hiro and he must've been  in his mid20s at least. Hopefully, there's something in the wings to explain this.

And  . . .uh, people with healing powers . . .don't get drunk.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Nov 23, 2007 at 03:31 PM
sana  they waited at least one episode before they resurrected noah. para ma-share naman namin ang pain ni claire.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Nov 24, 2007 at 09:40 AM
Anyone keeping up with Heroes Unmasked? There's 18 now. Worth acquiring?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Nov 24, 2007 at 11:05 AM
sana  they waited at least one episode before they resurrected noah. para ma-share naman namin ang pain ni claire.

i actually liked it the way it was.  mas lalong bitin nga kung ganun...kasi mapapa "What the...!" ka!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kings5504 on Nov 24, 2007 at 09:43 PM
I actually liked Noah's "Holy sh--" -- CUT/END SCENE, which is exactly the same as Claire's reaction when she found herself all opened up in an autopsy table in Season 1!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: hotrod on Nov 28, 2007 at 08:46 AM
Hmmm, last night's episode is not as good as the last one. It's neither good nor bad.  Hopefully the final episode will make up for it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Nov 28, 2007 at 01:09 PM
Oh yeah. I was disappointed with Truth and Consequences.

Although I understand the urgency of the situation brought by the writer's strike (early finale), but I think it is not an excuse to speed up the development of the storyline and leave gaping holes in the plot.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 28, 2007 at 01:36 PM
it showed the plot, i.e. to whom Hiro will save the world this time. that's good enough for me.




can't wait to see the fight between **** and ***** next week! ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 29, 2007 at 09:52 PM
Does **** even have a chance?  :o

A lot of stupid heroes on Season 2. All are getting manipulated.  :-\

Oh, and I hope Elle electrofry Claire's brains out  >:(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 29, 2007 at 10:27 PM
A lot of stupid heroes on Season 2. All are getting manipulated.  :-\

Mismo.  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Nov 29, 2007 at 10:40 PM
I wonder if a bullet in the head can't even kill him  ;)

Apparently, yes  :-\

I believe Niki's dying on the next episode. Too bad  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 29, 2007 at 10:49 PM
Oh, and I hope Elle electrofry Claire's brains out  >:(

Imagine if Heroes was on Showtime. We'd have a full blown cat fight complete with hair pulling and shirt ripping. Not to mention a visible female nipple thrown in for good measure. Ah, one can dream.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Nov 30, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Imagine if Heroes was on Showtime. We'd have a full blown cat fight complete with hair pulling and shirt ripping. Not to mention a visible female nipple thrown in for good measure. Ah, one can dream.  ;D

OT:
speaking of SHO, this reminds me of the Dexter episode where Deb runs into Livia naked and getting something from the fridge. she said...
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Ooops, pardon the t1ts.

 ;D wouldn't mind running into those every second!! :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 30, 2007 at 01:40 PM
OT:
speaking of SHO, this reminds me of the Dexter episode where Deb runs into Livia naked and getting something from the fridge. she said...
 ;D wouldn't mind running into those every second!! :D

Right on. Hehe!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 04, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Looks like the 1 male & 1 female original cast member that died in the season finale are.......

Nathan Petrelli & Nikki Sanders
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 04, 2007 at 04:12 PM
A little eye candy for everyone

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/12/1203_hayden_gq.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Dec 04, 2007 at 08:42 PM
with Claire's blood they can just resurrect anyone they want...  hmmm...   :-\

did they really kill Niki?  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Dec 04, 2007 at 09:09 PM
did they really...

Yes, they really did, and...

Unlike Nathan, who was shot so could possibly be resurrected with Claire's blood, Nikki was apparently blown into a million pieces, so I don't see how bringing her back is possible.

Peter Petrelli is hands-down the stupidest, most gullible character ever written for a TV show. Matt should follow Mama Petrelli's advice and shoot him in the head.

I love how Hiro dealt with Adam. Can you imagine? He's immortal, so...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on Dec 04, 2007 at 10:21 PM
sorry for not putting spolier tags in my earlier post  :(

oh well sayang she's gone...  i like her pa naman not for her character but just her!  hehe

i also love what Hiro did to Adam!!  ;D ;D  but he should still die of hunger right?? ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Dec 05, 2007 at 09:47 AM
I used to think Arrested Development's Lucille Bluth was the worst mother on TV. After seeing episode 11, Angela Petrelli definitely wins mother of the year.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Dec 05, 2007 at 10:51 AM
After seeing episode 11, Angela Petrelli definitely wins mother of the year.

I'm not sure who's worse - her or Livia Soprano...  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: staind01 on Dec 05, 2007 at 03:06 PM
good season ender.


since nathan already has Adam's blood in him, he might heal on his own. or he can be saved by his daughter's blood.

personally, we can do without him in Volume 3 so i hope they keep him dead.



I'm not sure who's worse - her or Livia Soprano...  ;D

i agree with this! imagine f#$Kin up tony's head to the point of him having panic attacks then manipulating junior to order a hit on tony!!  :o

hands down the worst!



Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Dec 05, 2007 at 04:30 PM
peter is really dumb. all he had to do was read adam's mind during that crucial scene...i do hate how the writers' strike has shortened all my fave shows!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Dec 07, 2007 at 01:26 AM
sorry for not putting spolier tags in my earlier post  :(

oh well sayang she's gone...  i like her pa naman not for her character but just her!  hehe

i also love what Hiro did to Adam!!  ;D ;D  but he should still die of hunger right?? ;D

Another question is, will he die without oxygen?  ::)

So glad Sylar finally killed the annoying Maya. And then Suresh brought her back....
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Dec 07, 2007 at 07:54 AM
Nah, according to Tim Kring, he stays alive in the tomb for all eternity...

"It's poetic justice to have Adam end up in the same graveyard as Kaito," Kring notes. "We've given the audience no reason to believe that Adam can figure a way to get out of there. The fact that he can live forever makes this the most gruesome of internments. If this happened to any of us, at least we'd know we'd soon have the mercy of death. Not here."

For explanations on other events in the finale, check out the full interview here (http://www.tvguide.com/news/heroes-generations-finale/071204-01).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 07, 2007 at 09:24 AM
There's a rumor flying around various sites that ........

it's Noah/Mr. Bennett who shot Nathan.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 07, 2007 at 09:58 AM
 :)


strong inclination because he just re-joined the company and with the benched elle sino pa ba ang gun man
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Dec 07, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Nah, according to Tim Kring, he stays alive in the tomb for all eternity...

"It's poetic justice to have Adam end up in the same graveyard as Kaito," Kring notes. "We've given the audience no reason to believe that Adam can figure a way to get out of there. The fact that he can live forever makes this the most gruesome of internments. If this happened to any of us, at least we'd know we'd soon have the mercy of death. Not here."

For explanations on other events in the finale, check out the full interview here (http://www.tvguide.com/news/heroes-generations-finale/071204-01).


I doubt he'll be imprisoned there for all eternity. One major earthquake to open up the grave and then bam! He's out!  ;D  Or maybe another tracker villain to help him out. A lot of possibilities. And imagine how pissed he will be...after gazillion years LOL. I'd like to see him though getting outta there the kill bill way.  8)

I'm disappointed with him as villain. He wasn't much of a threat.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vinta18 on Dec 08, 2007 at 10:58 PM
Oh Peter... you can walk through walls, you have super strength, you can teleport. Why the hell did you spend an entire commercial break trying to wrench open a vault with telekinesis?

Stupidest character ever. 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 09, 2007 at 05:58 PM
Agree. Peter is written stupidly here. Well, so's the entire Second Season. Underwhelming finale, felt rushed, felt even more of a letdown than the Kirby Plaza non-fight from the First Season.

Can't blame Kring totally. When  he went on public admitting that he himself thought his show sucked the strike gave him little room to imporve it the way he probably wanted to. And they probably had to rush that finale.

Still,a letdown.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DaSilva on Dec 13, 2007 at 03:46 PM
does anyone else feel that this series has not even come close to fulfilling its potential?

like many, i latched onto heroes after that intriguing first episode of volume one. the remaining 22 episodes had their moments, but truth to tell there were large swaths of volume one that were boring. still, some of the last few episodes of the first season managed to keep it interesting enough.

with volume two i have mostly wondered whether the show's team has enough creativity to keep it interesting.

sayang.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 13, 2007 at 10:10 PM
I do. And so does Tim Kring.

Season 2 had at the most 3 good episodes out of 12. Thatr's not even 50%. You don't need to be a mathematician to conclude that that's a dismal average.

Of course, put blinders on and the whole season becomes a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Aug 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM
The 3rd season of Heroes will start on Monday, September 22, 2008 with a three-hour episode. "Volume 3: Villains" will introduce a bunch of menacing characters, and this main arc will have the tagline, "In every hero there could be a villain."
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Aug 23, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Yes, they really did (kill Nikki), and...

Unlike Nathan, who was shot so could possibly be resurrected with Claire's blood, Nikki was apparently blown into a million pieces, so I don't see how bringing her back is possible.

Well, shows you what I know. I just checked out the Season 3 Preview on my R1 Heroes Season 2 DVD, and Ali Larter is back, talking about how excited she is since she'll be working extensively with someone in Season 3.

I'm assuming Nathan's alive, so it was a cliffhanger where all characters who apparently died actually didn't?

Shark! Shark! Jump!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on Aug 25, 2008 at 05:47 AM
^ I also caught a spoiler reported on E! News Daily that Adam Monroe will be back and will re-appear within the first 6 episodes of Season 3.  :-\
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:27 AM
I want him to come back. I mean he's not dead yet. They just need a good explanation of his escape, Kill Bill style maybe  ;D  He's probably coming back just to share his power to Peter and Sylar though  :-\
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Ikiru on Aug 25, 2008 at 02:09 PM
Well, shows you what I know. I just checked out the Season 3 Preview on my R1 Heroes Season 2 DVD, and Ali Larter is back, talking about how excited she is since she'll be working extensively with someone in Season 3.


Maybe flashback scenes? Micah reminiscing?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: metaura on Sep 01, 2008 at 04:07 AM
guys naalala niyo pa ba si future peter? the one with the scar on his face? well he will show up again and you'll be surprise kung anng gagawin niya hahahhahaha, clue(meron siyang baril na galing din niya kay future claire, di pa patay si claire, since di natuloy ung explosion nagiba na yng future)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on Sep 02, 2008 at 07:18 PM
^ Isn't there supposed to be a button thingy here for posting spoilers? :-\
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 02, 2008 at 07:35 PM
yaiks! bat ba napadaan ako dito . . . kahit 'spoiler alert' text lang sana bro.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 05, 2008 at 07:36 PM
NBC has released promo pics of the Heroes Season 3 main cast. Looks great--now let's hope they don't botch the story further.

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/jeanlucpikachu/heroes_s3.jpg)

from left to right:
James Kyson Lee as Ando Masahashi, Jack Coleman as H.R.G., Ali Larter as Niki Sanders/Jessica, Cristine Rose as Angela Petrelli, Adrian Pasdar as Nathan Petrelli, Milo Ventimiglia as Peter Petrelli, Hayden Panettiere as Claire Bennet, Masi Oka as Hiro Nakamura, Greg Grunberg as Matt Parkman, Dania Ramirez as Maya Herrera, Zachary Quinto as Sylar, and Sendhil Ramamurthy as Mohinder Suresh.

Season 3 of Heroes will start on September 22, 2008 with a special, one hour clip show:
"The cast of NBC's award-winning drama hosts a special one-hour countdown special that will take viewers behind-the-scenes and down the red carpet, through the ropes and into the exclusive premiere party at L.A. hot spot Edison. As the last minutes before 'Volume Three: Villains' tick down, an assortment of special, never-before-broadcast segments will highlight special moments, review key details, and reveal some fun, all-new information about the worldwide phenomena's past two seasons, including a review of possible suspects in 'Who Shot Nathan?'; a peek at how some cool special effects sequences were pulled off; a look at the series increasing global popularity and sample of some of the many languages the series has been translated into; an exclusive reveal of the series many inside nods to Star Trek; and much more."
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on Sep 05, 2008 at 08:49 PM
oh season 2 Blu-ray is out pala... ;D

Can't wait to see S2. Hearing you guys talking about S3 make me drooling na. :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 05, 2008 at 10:07 PM
oh season 2 Blu-ray is out pala... ;D

Can't wait to see S2. Hearing you guys talking about S3 make me drooling na. :P

We just want to remove the bad taste of Season 2  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 05, 2008 at 10:09 PM
NBC has released promo pics of the Heroes Season 3 main cast. Looks great--now let's hope they don't botch the story further.

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb32/jeanlucpikachu/heroes_s3.jpg)

from left to right:
James Kyson Lee as Ando Masahashi, Jack Coleman as H.R.G., Ali Larter as Niki Sanders/Jessica, Cristine Rose as Angela Petrelli, Adrian Pasdar as Nathan Petrelli, Milo Ventimiglia as Peter Petrelli, Hayden Panettiere as Claire Bennet, Masi Oka as Hiro Nakamura, Greg Grunberg as Matt Parkman, Dania Ramirez as Maya Herrera, Zachary Quinto as Sylar, and Sendhil Ramamurthy as Mohinder Suresh.

Where's Elle  ??? >:( ???
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Season 3 Premiere is in 10 hours!  8)

I'm excited... even if the reviews for 3x01 have been less than stellar.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:47 AM
Saw the season premiere a while ago. It's pretty much a compensation from the disappointing last season. Though the plot is convoluted at most.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:02 PM
I'm excited as well.  Can't wait for it!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: john5479 on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Hope they make drastic adjustments to the plot.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Sep 23, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I guess they made it too drastic that it just muddled up some points. But maybe it is merely a strategy to keep viewers. Personally, I think this season looks a bit more promising than the last and I am hoping that the writers don't mess it up just by attempting to overcompensate.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kurtskypogi on Sep 23, 2008 at 05:42 PM
Grabe wala akong mahanap na season 1 or 2 boxset sa malls or d2.
Laging ubos
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 23, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Already finished watching Episode 1. Bad thing is that I thought this file already included the second half of the season premiere. Apparently, it's a separate file. I'm now acquiring that file.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:01 PM
Grabe wala akong mahanap na season 1 or 2 boxset sa malls or d2.
Laging ubos

Local boxsets ba hinahanap nyo? or you mean d2 as in you're not in the Philippines right now? :-\ There are still region 3 boxsets available that I see in video shops. Seaon 1 boxsets nga lang.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: juanch on Sep 23, 2008 at 09:54 PM
Ooohhh I'm excited na!

Any updates when & where this will be shown locally?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: metaura on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:28 PM
locally? hehe mga 2 or 3 months pa hehe  mg DL ka nalang ng torrent naka up na both episodes ng season 3
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 23, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I watched these driving to and from Murphy's Makati tonight.  ;D

What can I say?

One season later, and Peter Petrelli is still the stupidest character on TV. Why jump back in time and kill your own brother, then incarcerate YOURSELF in Level 5? Why not jump backj half an hour earlier, explain to your brother why the press conference should not push through, and know that your younger self will be living free? His utter stupidity makes my blood boil, as does Hiro's. Yeah, after clear instructions, open the safe, why don't you?

And the final twist on Sylar's lineage... Hmm...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:15 AM
BTW, ilan ba talaga episodes yesterday?   I watched episodes 1 and 2 last night but then my wife mentioned to me there seems to be an episode 0 (zero).  What??

It was almost like super Tuesday yesterday;  Prison Break, Sarah Connor Chronicles, CSI Premiere, Heroes, Gossip Girl sabay sabay.

Dont wait for the local broadcast.  Download the high def episodes while you're sleeping instead.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: metaura on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:39 AM
may episode 0 nga pero its just a clipshow a summary of both season 1 and 2 plus the premiere party ata
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Cool geek inside joke for letting William Katt guest in the second episode.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:59 AM
may episode 0 nga pero its just a clipshow a summary of both season 1 and 2 plus the premiere party ata

Oh.  Thanks for the clarification.   Episode 0 is not necessary then.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: wedge on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:00 AM
Cool geek inside joke for letting William Katt guest in the second episode.

Should've dressed him up with that red spandex  ;D

Seriously, they should have given him more screentime.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:43 AM
Yeah, Katt should've been given significant face time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Yeah, Katt should've been given significant face time.

At least he had an explosive icy scene.   ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:49 PM
BTW, ilan ba talaga episodes yesterday?   I watched episodes 1 and 2 last night but then my wife mentioned to me there seems to be an episode 0 (zero).  What??

It was almost like super Tuesday yesterday;  Prison Break, Sarah Connor Chronicles, CSI Premiere, Heroes, Gossip Girl sabay sabay.

Dont wait for the local broadcast.  Download the high def episodes while you're sleeping instead.

pre where do you download? bittorrent?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 24, 2008 at 03:16 PM
pre where do you download? bittorrent?

All popular private and public sites should have them by now.  Yesterday, I got it from a public site because there were some problems with the private site I usually visit.  Kayang kaya ng Wife with her 999 PLDT plan.  Even though it takes longer to download than than usual 350MB avi files, it's definitely worth the extra wait.  Kaya dapat during sleeping time or while you are in the office (assuming you can leave your downloader running unattended any time of the day).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kimpOy on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:27 PM
downloaded the torrent from mininova and downloaded the whole thing via utorrent.

download na habang maraming seeds
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: rafgar on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:27 PM
I go to eztv.it for the torrent downloads I need.  The site contains a lot of torrent downloads of TV shows and they are very much updated.  :)



Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 24, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I watched these driving to and from Murphy's Makati tonight.  ;D

What can I say?

One season later, and Peter Petrelli is still the stupidest character on TV. Why jump back in time and kill your own brother, then incarcerate YOURSELF in Level 5? Why not jump backj half an hour earlier, explain to your brother why the press conference should not push through, and know that your younger self will be living free? His utter stupidity makes my blood boil, as does Hiro's. Yeah, after clear instructions, open the safe, why don't you?

And the final twist on Sylar's lineage... Hmm...


Same with Sylar. As much as I like him for being the badass villain, he's very careless. Beaten by CLAIRE  ???  TWICE  ???

But at least the debate is over on what Sylar does with his brains  ::)

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:12 AM
WTF! Just realized Episode 2 was already released  >:(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Sep 25, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Gawd! I hate these fcuked up timeline stories that usually branch out to diferent sotries that might end up lame.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Sep 25, 2008 at 08:41 AM
I go to eztv.it for the torrent downloads I need.  The site contains a lot of torrent downloads of TV shows and they are very much updated.  :)


thanks, man! ayan 2hrs 20mins na lang ung download he he
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Sep 25, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Gawd! I hate these fcuked up timeline stories that usually branch out to diferent stories that might end up lame.

that's basically the show's bread and butter at this point. hehe
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Question:   
Di ba Claire remains dead if the deadly object is not removed from her body?   So how come Sylar can recuperate even with bullets in his body and a knife through his heart??? 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Question:   
Di ba Claire remains dead if the deadly object is not removed from her body?   So how come Sylar can recuperate even with bullets in his body and a knife through his heart??? 

The deadly object should be placed solely and remain in the brain and not in any other part of the body.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM
The deadly object should be placed solely and remain in the brain and not in any other part of the body.

Thank you!

So they can manage to stop Sylar by shooting him in the brain.

That explains why Sylar llost consciousness when the lightning girl short circuited.  It must have friend his brains temporarily.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: ruth2art on Sep 25, 2008 at 02:57 PM
So, what has become of the Haitian (?) who can selectively erase memories and neutralize other heroes' powers?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 26, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Don't you think after 2 seasons, Hiro should have matured already? He's becoming more and more annoying  :-\

Sorry, Hiro fans  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 26, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Don't you think after 2 seasons, Hiro should have matured already? He's becoming more and more annoying 

LOL, this should be also applied to Peter, as in don't you think after 2 seasons, Peter should have acquired some intelligence already. He's becoming more and more stupid    ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 26, 2008 at 02:46 PM
Yeah, it seems that the Season 3 plot was all because of him  :P

What I liked about Season 1 was that not all are special, and they are ruining it this season  >:(  Looks like the writers are more concerned with action, less drama. The gap that separates this show with the X-Men is slowly disappearing  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Sep 26, 2008 at 03:19 PM
OT: Anyone happy to see Veronica and Weevil together?  ;D

I hope someone here is a fan.  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Sep 26, 2008 at 04:34 PM
OT: Anyone happy to see Veronica and Weevil together?  ;D

I hope someone here is a fan.  ::)

yeah man! reunion of sorts... a bit ot but avclub said it best in a recent feature:

Weak ratings and a creatively confused third season killed one of the decade's best series—detective or otherwise—before its time, but the two season-length mysteries Veronica Mars presented before its downfall stand among TV's finest, both in terms of their narrative twists and the way they mapped out the mood of their times.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:14 PM
Gawd! I hate these fcuked up timeline stories that usually branch out to diferent sotries that might end up lame.

Same here. It was ok the first time future Hiro showed up, but then we had to go back and forth into the future--enough with the future timelines already.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 02, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Inconsistent Haitian - back in Season 1, Nathan was able to fly around this guy  ::)   Is this part of his evolution? Or the writers just forgetting his powers?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 02, 2008 at 11:48 AM
yeah man! reunion of sorts... a bit ot but avclub said it best in a recent feature:

...and too bad the reunion didn't last long  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:58 PM
Inconsistent Haitian - back in Season 1, Nathan was able to fly around this guy  ::)   Is this part of his evolution? Or the writers just forgetting his powers?

The Haitian's power is not automatic.  He has to consciously "turn it on" first.  Their first encounter w/ Nathan, they were there to kidnap him.  HRG & the Haitian didn't know he has an ability.  There was also the theory that since the Haitian was working for Angela Petrelli, he just let Nathan go.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pilyo168 on Oct 02, 2008 at 09:18 PM
...and too bad the reunion didn't last long  :(

----------

ang cool ng spoiler botton. hehe
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Oct 03, 2008 at 06:45 AM
In the span of three seasons, Hiro turned from uber cool to utterly irritating.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 03, 2008 at 11:04 AM
In the span of three seasons, Hiro turned from uber cool to utterly irritating.

I can understand.  He was arguably the one who carried the show for season 1.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Oct 07, 2008 at 11:27 PM
The time travel thing is getting convoluted. But I laughed out loud at Parkman following his "spirit guide", hehe. I liked the cliffhanger, too. Forgot about him.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: ruth2art on Oct 08, 2008 at 11:11 PM
In the span of three seasons, Hiro turned from uber cool to utterly irritating.
Well, it might be Ando's time to shine. They seem to complement each other and they bail each other out, right?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Oct 15, 2008 at 04:21 PM
The Petrelli Family Reunion  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Oct 16, 2008 at 07:15 AM
I loved the twist ending in this week's episode and it also further cemented my opinion that Hiro is now the most irritating character in the series. And Robert Foster?! Cool choice.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pchin on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:46 AM
I loved the twist ending in this week's episode and it also further cemented my opinion that Hiro is now the most irritating character in the series. And Robert Foster?! Cool choice.

Poor Hiro  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Oct 23, 2008 at 12:39 AM
what a powerful father's embrace  :o
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vin_314 on Oct 23, 2008 at 08:55 AM
have you noticed the scene of hiro and ando on s3 ep6 ?

when hiro went back to 1 minute before he got it, the painter hit 2 hiros? i just dont get it..shouldnt he be hit once only since he went back to 1 minute ago?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Oct 23, 2008 at 05:51 PM
have you noticed the scene of hiro and ando on s3 ep6 ?

when hiro went back to 1 minute before he got it, the painter hit 2 hiros? i just dont get it..shouldnt he be hit once only since he went back to 1 minute ago?

He got hit first when he went back a minute to hide behind the rock, then the painter went inside his hut where he hit the other Hiro inside. The Hiro inside the hut didn't know, of course, that his future self travelled back in time.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 23, 2008 at 06:04 PM
have you noticed the scene of hiro and ando on s3 ep6 ?

when hiro went back to 1 minute before he got it, the painter hit 2 hiros? i just dont get it..shouldnt he be hit once only since he went back to 1 minute ago?

The precog already knew he had to hit 2 Hiros even before Hiro thought of going back in time for one minute.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Oct 23, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Looking forward to a Peter + Sylar vs Arthur showdown!!!  8)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 23, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Looking forward to a Peter + Sylar vs Arthur showdown!!!  8)

Father vs. Sons.....cool!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pendrell on Oct 25, 2008 at 06:30 PM
Not getting out of the rut yet that was season 2?  Entertainment Weekly's cover story next week calls the latest season of "Heroes" a series in crisis!  (I wonder if Tim Kring would apologize for this again.)

(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/covergallery/img/2008/oct312008_1018_lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Oct 26, 2008 at 01:20 PM
I actually agree with Entertainment Weekly's article--this season has been meh so far...it's like the X-Men, too many characters and not an ounce of character development. And those time travel plotlines---enough already!

Here's the link to the full article (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20235213,00.html).
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 03, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Big shakeup on the staff of NBC's "Heroes" came down on Sunday with the axing of co-exec producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb.

Both scribe-producers had been with the show since its first season and were known to have led the day-to-day production operation under the direction of creator/exec producer Tim Kring.

"Heroes," produced by Universal Media Studios, has struggled in the ratings its third season. It's understood that Alexander and Loeb were let go because of Peacock execs' frustration with the creative direction of the show. The show is also said to have been grappling with hefty budget overruns this season, that are going well beyond its already sizable $4 million per-seg pricetag.

Reps for NBC and UMS declined comment.


Source: Variety.com
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Nov 03, 2008 at 03:55 PM
Wow, Loeb's gone.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Nov 03, 2008 at 04:29 PM
Oh my god. That means Loeb now has time to write all those truly awful comics he's been writing lately.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Nov 08, 2008 at 09:59 AM
And their replacement just might be...

'Pushing Daisies' creator Bryan Fuller says he might return to 'Heroes'
by Lynette Rice

In the wake of coexecutive producers Jeph Loeb and Jesse Alexander getting fired from Heroes, online fans have been crying out for former Heroes writer (and Pushing Daisies creator) Bryan Fuller to rejoin the show. Apparently, somebody is listening. Fuller told EW.com that he's open to a comeback. "I am exclusive to Daisies through the delivery of the 13th episode of our 13-episode order, which will be mid-January," says Fuller. "If Daisies isn't picked up by then, I will definitely be going back to play with my friends at Heroes."

It seems unlikely that ABC will pick up more episodes of the critically-beloved Daisies; the show is currently ranked at No. 64 and attracts a mere 6.14 million viewers. NBC-Universal could score major points with its ever-impatient fans if the network rehired Fuller, who not only wrote for Heroes in its first season but was responsible for "Company Man" — an episode widely hailed as the series' best single hour (the episode's unusual single-character focus is frequently cited as the model the series should follow going forward).

An insider tells EW that it's unlikely Alexander and Loeb — who, by many accounts, have served as defacto show runners whenever creator Tim Kring was preoccupied with other aspects of the show's complicated production schedule — will be replaced this season. If Fuller were to rejoin Heroes, it would likely be as a consultant since his value as a show creator is big in Hollywood. Besides Daisies, Fuller is responsible for creating Dead Like Me for Showtime and the critically-beloved Wonderfalls for Fox. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Nov 12, 2008 at 09:42 AM
The latest episode is by far the best this season as they explained things that happened a year ago.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kimpOy on Nov 19, 2008 at 04:00 PM
also the 9th episode...



showdown is near!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: et414 on Nov 19, 2008 at 07:44 PM
this show is getting cornier by the episode. nakakainis yung ginawa nila kay hiro. where is the astig Hiro who came from the future to change time in season one? instead of making him cooler, they make him a retard!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vin_314 on Nov 20, 2008 at 06:16 AM
i wonder what hiro is gonna do on the showdown with his recent mindset  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:45 PM
this show is getting cornier by the episode. nakakainis yung ginawa nila kay hiro. where is the astig Hiro who came from the future to change time in season one? instead of making him cooler, they make him a retard!

mismo! you forgot to mention his sword and greater command of english. hehe...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Nov 20, 2008 at 08:00 PM
i agree

but i can't wait for the heroes vs villains scenes (ala-tekken kaya?)....hope i don't get disappointed
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Ctlim on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:51 PM
ok parin!!! hehehehe ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Nov 27, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Okay ang eclipse sa Heroes universe, it can cover a whole continent, hehe.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: blued888 on Nov 28, 2008 at 07:14 AM
Hopefully this mid-point makes the other half of the current season more interesting. These people don't have a life anymore, they just go around the world to see what their powers can solve. In S1 there used to be a nurse, a cheerleader, an office drone, an aspiring politician, a policeman, etc... where'd all these people go!? :P
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Haaay, no episode update for this week. Next week pa!  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Dec 10, 2008 at 11:21 AM
^^are you talking about Episode 12? It's already available.

One thing I can say about Heroes is that at least it's consistent--consistently disappointing.

There were good moments in Ep 12 involving Claire & Hiro, but once again the episode falls flat towards the end. Oh, and Peter's still an idiot. They really need to kill off some characters here for good. 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 11, 2008 at 01:56 AM
^^are you talking about Episode 12? It's already available.

One thing I can say about Heroes is that at least it's consistent--consistently disappointing.

There were good moments in Ep 12 involving Claire & Hiro, but once again the episode falls flat towards the end. Oh, and Peter's still an idiot. They really need to kill off some characters here for good. 

Aw yeah. I usually download the latest episode every Tuesday. Apparently, there was no update on this episode but the recaps are already available online. Lemme check em out tomorrow. hmmm. how did i miss this?  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 11, 2008 at 07:28 PM

One thing I can say about Heroes is that at least it's consistent--consistently disappointing.


Tell that to the fans who worship at its altar. Heroes is like the new god of series TV, it seems. No matter how bad it gets, the love just increases. I gave  up downloading after three episodes. Only wanted to see Marlo and Bubba from The Wire. What a dumb show this has turned into.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Dec 12, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Jezuz! Shades of Captain America now with the super serum? The only thing to like now is that Sylar's turned bad again.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 13, 2008 at 06:54 AM
Well, until Peter get his power back...  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 13, 2008 at 06:55 AM
Well, until Peter get his power back...  :)

Will he? now that his father is dead?  ??? Abangan ang susunod na kabanata!!!  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Dec 13, 2008 at 08:45 AM
^ You're like Ali Larter in the first season of Heroes, Hudaf. Kulang na lang mirror. LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 13, 2008 at 02:04 PM
Super disappointing na talaga yung Heroes. The first two episodes of this season looked like it was going somewhere interesting but then they drop the ball again. And now they can't blame any kind of strike for the dip in quality. There are just so many missteps and they can't seem to find the courage to permanently kill off useless characters or actors -- like Ali Larter for example. You remove her stupid schizo character and replace it with an even stupider one. Then you go all freudian with Sylar only to prematurely end his saga by turning him bad again for less than what, four episodes?

And don't get me started on Hiro.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 13, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Agree,agree.

The hardcore fan tolerance  - - and worship - - - sometimes makes my jaw drop. It's almost heroic. Almost. But more sad.

For the first time in my entire life consuming his work, I actually miss the presence of Jeph Loeb. I might be a little wary that Fuller's pronouncements are so much hype but to be wary is to care and I frankly don't care about this show anymore. One off my list, for sure. Should free up more space for No Heroics.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Dec 13, 2008 at 05:32 PM
Should free up more space for No Heroics.

Panalo 'to pre! The Hotness! Hehe...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 14, 2008 at 07:23 AM
Mas ok pa nga. Unfortunately, non-US shows are hardly given attention to in these parts. :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Dec 16, 2008 at 09:47 PM
Episode 13 marks the end of Volume 3 ("Villains") and the beginning of Volume 4 ("Fugitives"). As always with every episode of this season, episode 13 can be summed up in one word: Meh.

With its declining ratings, NBC has scheduled Heroes for a return in February 2009 (probably to overhaul everything...or maybe not). Someone, anyone, please kill off the stupid Petrelli Brothers--include Suresh, Ali Larter's character and her other, still unshown character (she's supposedly playing triplets).

Heroes in concentration camps? Looks like it's Days of Future Past rip-off time. With Worf as the President of the USA  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Battousai on Dec 16, 2008 at 11:00 PM
OK nga yung No Heroics. Talaga bang 6 episodes lang sya? This type of show pwede ma pick-up ng JackTV.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dobler on Dec 17, 2008 at 04:06 PM
OK nga yung No Heroics. Talaga bang 6 episodes lang sya? This type of show pwede ma pick-up ng JackTV.

yeah, 6 episodes lang sya. it's from the uk and british shows usually have 6 to 8 episodes per series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Mr. Hankey on Dec 17, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Wow, that was a really bad half season. I hated Chapter 2 when I first watched it until the last couple of episodes, which somewhat saved it from being a total disaster. Villains had no redeeming qualities whatsoever. It made Chapter 2 seem EXCELLENT.

And the teaser for "Fugitives"? I had only one thought when I watched it: Who cares?  ::)

I think I'm done with this show. But then again, I said that about Boston Legal two years ago, and ended up watching up until the series finale last week.  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 18, 2008 at 12:50 AM
I have totally lost track of this series... too many unfinished business, too many questions...  ::)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Ctlim on Dec 18, 2008 at 10:09 PM
I am at the end of S3 Episode 12, can't wait to finish downloading Ep13. Lovin' it. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 19, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Mas ok pa nga. Unfortunately, non-US shows are hardly given attention to in these parts. :(

Yup, yup. Hindi kasi gaano no-brainer Brit shows, unlike most US shows . . .like  . . um, Heroes. (When you leave your brain while watching a TV show, saan kaya iniiwan , sa kapitbahay?  ;D ) At bitin siya at 6 episodes. I'm not sure if it gets picked up for a new season. British TV doesn't overdo the way American TV does (ilang seasons na ba yung Steve carell na Office?) pero sayang I could use a few more episodes of No Heroics.

In the meantime, I slogged through the rest of Heroes and got as far as the halfway point and then some  . . .and what can I say? The Worst TV show of 2007 is also The Worst TV Show of 2008. Mas OK pa Ugly Betty. :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 19, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Villains had no redeeming qualities whatsoever.


You're review is way too kind, Mr.Hankey.  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 19, 2008 at 11:09 AM
I'll sum up Heroes 3 ep. 1 - 13 as stupidity piled on top of improbability. Compelling characters from the first season are not just a mere shadow of themselves, they've become caricatures. There's just no effort to make the characters' decisions consistent and believable. You've got Sylar who they not only turn bad but also fully embrace his "hunger" but decides not to get the powers of the truly powerful superhumans like the puppet guy.

You then have Peter who wanted to destroy the formula inject himself with it just so he can save his brother.

Unfortunately, I'm a completist at heart. I always finish what I start so I'm committed to watching Heroes until it ends. I'm the guy who slogged on through McFarlane's Spawn despite the atrocious writing only because I started with the series. So I'm hoping Vol. 4 will be infinitely better this time around.

Regarding Brit shows. The Brits know that a shorter series is tauter storywise. Case in point is the excellent Worst Week of my Life, that lasted for six episodes, just enough to represent the actual days of the week. Compare it with the dragging US version of Worst Week, which is already at episode 11. The humor gets watered down.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM
I'll sum up Heroes 3 ep. 1 - 13 as stupidity piled on top of improbability.

I always finish what I start so I'm committed to watching Heroes until it ends.

I actually intend to see this horsedung through,  out of some strange compulsion for junk, like bingeing on potato chips with dip. And also trying to figure out what others still see in it. A mystery for the ages,that. But then again, as The Soup has astutely pointed out, people still watch Grey's Anatomy and that is yet another example of "stupidity piled on top of improbability".
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DaSilva on Dec 20, 2008 at 08:09 AM
the only real heroes are those still watching the series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Dec 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM
LOL. That's a good one. ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 21, 2008 at 06:30 AM
I'll sum up Heroes 3 ep. 1 - 13 as stupidity piled on top of improbability. Compelling characters from the first season are not just a mere shadow of themselves, they've become caricatures. There's just no effort to make the characters' decisions consistent and believable. You've got Sylar who they not only turn bad but also fully embrace his "hunger" but decides not to get the powers of the truly powerful superhumans like the puppet guy.

You then have Peter who wanted to destroy the formula inject himself with it just so he can save his brother.

Unfortunately, I'm a completist at heart. I always finish what I start so I'm committed to watching Heroes until it ends
. I'm the guy who slogged on through McFarlane's Spawn despite the atrocious writing only because I started with the series. So I'm hoping Vol. 4 will be infinitely better this time around.

Regarding Brit shows. The Brits know that a shorter series is tauter storywise. Case in point is the excellent Worst Week of my Life, that lasted for six episodes, just enough to represent the actual days of the week. Compare it with the dragging US version of Worst Week, which is already at episode 11. The humor gets watered down.

Same here. Stuck with this series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Dec 21, 2008 at 07:28 PM
just started watching season 1 of heroes, parang prison break din pala siya - walang tayuan ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: blued888 on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:36 AM
just started watching season 1 of heroes, parang prison break din pala siya - walang tayuan ;D ;D

Season 1 had great character development and story-telling. Started to fall apart when the succeeding season started. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 22, 2008 at 01:28 AM
the only real heroes are those still watching the series.


 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 23, 2008 at 04:12 PM
just started watching season 1 of heroes, parang prison break din pala siya - walang tayuan ;D ;D

Good Luck, malamang di ka titigil until nandun ka na sa latest episode!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Dec 28, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Good Luck, malamang di ka titigil until nandun ka na sa latest episode!  :D :D :D

just finished watching season 1 last night, season 2 naman mamaya! ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 28, 2008 at 08:27 PM
just finished watching season 1 last night, season 2 naman mamaya! ;D

hehehe 3 more season. Talagang TV series marathon ka ah! Enjoy viewing them.  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 28, 2008 at 08:28 PM
I mean 2 seasons more!  :(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Dec 31, 2008 at 06:41 PM
just started watching season 2 on mkv, ang layo ng diff sa avi files ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 02, 2009 at 08:58 AM
how many episodes is season 2? season 3?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: d4nu65+3R on Jan 02, 2009 at 09:08 AM
season 2 has 11 episodes.  cut short because of the writer's strike.

not too sure about s3.  the villains arc (or v3) had 13, while the upcoming fugitives arc (v4) shall have 12.

correct me if im way off though...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 02, 2009 at 09:30 AM
season 2 has 11 episodes.  cut short because of the writer's strike.

not too sure about s3.  the villains arc (or v3) had 13, while the upcoming fugitives arc (v4) shall have 12.

correct me if im way off though...

oh, i thought what i downloaded was a few episodes short hehehe ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Jan 02, 2009 at 09:10 PM
just started watching season 2 on mkv, ang layo ng diff sa avi files ;D

how do you play an mkv file? mas maliit ba ang file size than avi?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 02, 2009 at 09:21 PM
how do you play an mkv file? mas maliit ba ang file size than avi?

i play an mkv file thru a popcorn hour. mas malaki ang file size ng mkv kesa avi
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Jan 02, 2009 at 10:31 PM
how do you play an mkv file? mas maliit ba ang file size than avi?

Its way much bigger. and because of that expect better PQ.  ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Jan 02, 2009 at 10:32 PM
season 2 has 11 episodes.  cut short because of the writer's strike.

not too sure about s3.  the villains arc (or v3) had 13, while the upcoming fugitives arc (v4) shall have 12.

correct me if im way off though...

Right you are!  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 02, 2009 at 10:33 PM
Its way much bigger. and because of that expect better PQ.  ;)

better pq as in kita mo mga craters sa face ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Jan 02, 2009 at 10:38 PM
better pq as in kita mo mga craters sa face ;D

Pati Lipstick!  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 09, 2009 at 08:29 AM
I'll sum up Heroes 3 ep. 1 - 13 as stupidity piled on top of improbability. Compelling characters from the first season are not just a mere shadow of themselves, they've become caricatures. There's just no effort to make the characters' decisions consistent and believable. You've got Sylar who they not only turn bad but also fully embrace his "hunger" but decides not to get the powers of the truly powerful superhumans like the puppet guy.

You then have Peter who wanted to destroy the formula inject himself with it just so he can save his brother.

Unfortunately, I'm a completist at heart. I always finish what I start so I'm committed to watching Heroes until it ends. I'm the guy who slogged on through McFarlane's Spawn despite the atrocious writing only because I started with the series. So I'm hoping Vol. 4 will be infinitely better this time around.

Regarding Brit shows. The Brits know that a shorter series is tauter storywise. Case in point is the excellent Worst Week of my Life, that lasted for six episodes, just enough to represent the actual days of the week. Compare it with the dragging US version of Worst Week, which is already at episode 11. The humor gets watered down.

i agree with this, pero tapusin ko na rin just to know what happened hehehe
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Jan 09, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Hahaha!  I've noticed that while the episodes might not be ideal, those trashing the show still admit they will finish it til the very end "by force" which is kinda ironic.   ;)

I mean if it's terrible I certainly wouldn't watch it.  Or is it a case of the show starting from a cult hit to a guilty pleasure now?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Wiggum on Jan 09, 2009 at 10:34 AM
A Heroes cast member finally does the right thing: TV.com - Rumor: Heroes cast member wants out! (http://www.tv.com/story/12080.html)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 09, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Hahaha!  I've noticed that while the episodes might not be ideal, those trashing the show still admit they will finish it til the very end "by force" which is kinda ironic.   ;)

I mean if it's terrible I certainly wouldn't watch it.  Or is it a case of the show starting from a cult hit to a guilty pleasure now?

Different strokes for different folks. You quit, I labor on. It's no different from me slogging on through Tolstoy or Melville despite being intimidated by the length and the occasional boring parts. :) (obligatory smiley face to show that I'm just stating my opinion and not trying to pick a fight).

I also can't understand why in these parts, being critical of a show -- or maintaining a certain standard -- is considered such a big crime.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Jan 09, 2009 at 10:43 AM
A Heroes cast member finally does the right thing: TV.com - Rumor: Heroes cast member wants out! (http://www.tv.com/story/12080.html)

I'd love for it to be Masi Oka. He's the biggest plot and continuity obstacle for the show. They really should've just made him a time-stopper and not a time traveler.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Jan 09, 2009 at 06:43 PM
I also can't understand why in these parts, being critical of a show -- or maintaining a certain standard -- is considered such a big crime.

because pinoys are generally pikon; yeah, it hurts to say this, but it's the truth. you see it everywhere--in politics, religion, show business, even in cyberspace.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jan 10, 2009 at 07:45 AM
just finished watching season 3 ep12-13, so peter and nathan are now enemies?
Title: Heroes Reboots In Season 4
Post by: X44 on Jan 23, 2009 at 02:56 PM
Sci-fi TV show Heroes is returning to its roots in a bid to turn round falling audience figures in the US.

Creator Tim Kring said series four will start "pretty much from scratch", after fans criticised a lack of direction in the second and third series.

US television network NBC says it is committed to Heroes, which starts its fourth season in the US on February.

But primetime president Angela Bromstad admitted it may have taken on too much "in terms of characters and stories".

But series two of the show split fans, with many complaining about a lack of pace and poor storylines. In the US, viewing figures dipped from a peak of nearly 14 million to just over 11 million.

Series three slumped even further, with audiences of 8.5 million - leading media magazine Entertainment Weekly to run a story headlined: "Heroes: Five Ways To Fix It".

In the UK, Heroes is shown on BBC Two, where it has also seen a dip in viewing figures. The opening show of series three drew 4.3 million people, while the final episode which was watched by just 2.24 million.

Kring told US magazine TV Guide about the fourth series: "There is almost nothing that the audience needs to know from the previous volume in order to follow the storyline."


In layman's terms, i guess this translates to Tim Kring telling the stalwart few who still like Heroes  - - "Hey you, those who still like Heroes, wake up, you're wrong, it's not Ok still, it's really bad because even I think so and I created it. So I'm starting from scratch."   ;D

This is, of course, the second time Kring has publicly criticized his own show.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: blued888 on Jan 23, 2009 at 11:59 PM
We'll see what happens on February 2nd. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vin_314 on Feb 04, 2009 at 11:40 AM
mukang ok na uli. may s3 ep14 na :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Feb 04, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Ok na as in gumanda? O as in may episodes na pero pangit pa rin?  ??? ;D



The reported new direction under Bryan Fuller's  (a.k.a. in the internet community as the "good episodes") starts with Episode 19 apparently.

There's a scene in Episode 14 where a character who can fly desperately tries to avoid falling off a plane. Smart. Sino ba nagsabing bobo 'tong series na 'to? (insert sarcastic emoticon here)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pooch on Feb 04, 2009 at 03:17 PM
just watched it

ok na


















magulo pa din ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 05, 2009 at 09:26 AM
There's a scene in Episode 14 where a character who can fly desperately tries to avoid falling off a plane. Smart. Sino ba nagsabing bobo 'tong series na 'to? (insert sarcastic emoticon here)

Just saw the episode pre. If I got it right (magulo talaga writing), I think Peter can now only absorb one power at a time.

Best moment of the show for me was not THE show but the obtuse reference to Fallout 3 at the beginning. :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: vin_314 on Feb 05, 2009 at 09:31 AM
i should have said mejo mas ok na kesa sa past episodes hehe
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Feb 06, 2009 at 01:47 PM
Wow, at least I'm excited now to watch the next episode

Just saw the episode pre. If I got it right (magulo talaga writing), I think Peter can now only absorb one power at a time.

Makes sense why he doesn't want to fall off the plane. At first I thought he had the same power as his father because of the injection. Since he flew with Nathan to escape. Have to watch the previous episode if Peter touched him...  ::)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Feb 06, 2009 at 09:41 PM
Just saw the episode pre. If I got it right (magulo talaga writing), I think Peter can now only absorb one power at a time.

Which could well be a cop-out on the writers' parts, to iron out all the inconsistencies.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Feb 10, 2009 at 05:31 PM
There's a scene in Episode 14 where a character who can fly desperately tries to avoid falling off a plane. Smart. Sino ba nagsabing bobo 'tong series na 'to? (insert sarcastic emoticon here)


Add to that the fact that the plane was still depressurizing all the way until they hit the ground it seemed. :D


On the direction their going: Fugitives with powers gives it a D.P.7 feel for me.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 10, 2009 at 06:37 PM
Wow, DP7! Blast from the past!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Feb 10, 2009 at 07:33 PM
 ;D

Yeah, so far in the past I can't find CBRs of it anywhere. Nakibasa lang ako noon, eh. Don't have my own copies.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Feb 13, 2009 at 08:17 AM
just watched ep 14 & 15, parang mas magulo kesa dati ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Feb 13, 2009 at 02:35 PM
At least the overused Sylar is still badass, and please no more switching sides. Loved his electric power, makes him a Sith Lord completely.  8)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:08 PM
At this point I highly doubt if any new writers that go on board will be able to write this series out of the s h ithole it's in right now. I hope to be proven wrong though. But just comparing this to how cool Fringe is getting you realize just how much Heroes fumbled the ball.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Yeah.

Fringe has Abrams going for it. Plus,real writers. And more likely than not, a grand plan.

Heroes always felt like it was making it up as it went along and now has . . .well, at this point, I'm not sure what it has. Except maybe the goodwill of a (very) few fans who still have faith in it even if it's insulted their intelligence again and again and again. The getting of new writers is always a solid strategy - - but at this point, if it isn't  the caliber of an Alan Moore or Grant Morrison or J.Michael Strazcynski or,indeed, a Joss Whedon or JJ Abrams or hell even Mark Millar, it's almost moot.

Maybe we should all just wait for Joe Ahearne's superhero series.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:28 PM
Pero pinapanood nyo pa rin.   ;D ;D ;D

Me, I stopped watching the current season sometime in mid Nov.  But I still get the mkv files up to the latest episode just for the sake of having them.  Babalikan ko nlang siguro kapag wala nang mapanood.   ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:29 PM
FRinge is really more exciting, intriguing and the characters are fleshed out.

I mean in Heroes, if one of your subordinates points a gun at your daughter, wouldn't you fire his a*s right away? Nathan let the guy off with a warning.
But that scene where Parkman loses it had potential.
And they should find another way to foretell the future. That trance-drawing stuff is getting old.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:40 PM
Pero pinapanood nyo pa rin.   ;D ;D ;D



Hindi na.  Ep 14 lang. Stopped at Ep 5, takot ako baka mabobo na kong tuluyan, mahal ko pa utak ko, medyo ginagamit ko pa e. Hehehe. ;D

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:50 PM
But I still get the mkv files up to the latest episode just for the sake of having them.  Babalikan ko nlang siguro kapag wala nang mapanood.   ;D

You basically answered why there are some people who still watch it. I've said it before, I'm an SF junkie. Kahit B movie pinapatulan ko basta SF. And it's good to bit ch about bad shows. It's cathartic.  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Feb 13, 2009 at 03:52 PM
And they should find another way to foretell the future. That trance-drawing stuff is getting old.

Yeah. I laughed when Parkman broke into a trailer home to get... paper and crayons!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: mike c on Feb 13, 2009 at 05:50 PM
Yeah. I laughed when Parkman broke into a trailer home to get... paper and crayons!

lol, ako rin.

ang corny nga nung drawing drawing, diba mommy ni peter petrelli can have visions - dapat yun yung ginagamit niya instead of the drawing thing.

Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: blued888 on Feb 18, 2009 at 02:34 AM
Si Sylar lang ang enjoy panuorin sa Heroes ngayon. :P Everybody else is a wimp!

I liked the ending on the latest episode though. Yung ending lang ha! ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Feb 18, 2009 at 02:47 AM
Si Sylar lang ang enjoy panuorin sa Heroes ngayon. :P Everybody else is a wimp!

I liked the ending on the latest episode though. Yung ending lang ha! ;D

ayos! everybody is a wimp! i have to agree...
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Feb 28, 2009 at 01:29 AM
i thought i saw Rachel Mills, who survived the explosion of Pinehearst (sa "The Recruit" web based spin-offs) in one of the new episodes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Feb 28, 2009 at 10:50 PM
The most recent Heroes episode that aired last Feb. 23, episode 17 of Season 3 ("Cold Wars"), garnered the lowest ratings ever for NBC (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/low-ratings-chuck-and-heroes.html), despite repeats of shows from the other networks.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Mar 01, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Tsk for Tim Kring.


Maybe it's a different story in the Philippines, which seems to be the last bastion of Heroes fandom.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 01, 2009 at 01:32 PM
The most recent Heroes episode that aired last Feb. 23, episode 17 of Season 3 ("Cold Wars"), garnered the lowest ratings ever for NBC (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/low-ratings-chuck-and-heroes.html), despite repeats of shows from the other networks.
Understandable. That episode was the worst. They tried to be artsy with narrative manipulation but it fell flat.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Mar 01, 2009 at 02:12 PM
And maybe the American fans of the show have been progressively dwindling,too.


I'm curious ,though, to how exactly are the ratings determined ,how do they work? Does anybody here know? Anybody who works in TV? Are dips like this reflective of the specific episode or the show so far?

Chuck also took a dive, I read. That I get,too. I never really got the few episodes of Chuck that I saw. And kinda regret losing the several hours spent doing so. Life's short enough as it is. ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Mar 01, 2009 at 02:48 PM
And maybe the American fans of the show have been progressively dwindling,too.

you betcha it's been dwindling for some time now. a 6.9 ratings share is excessively low when you compare it to the pilot episode, which garnered 14.10, equivalent to 14 million viewers. season 1 of Heroes maintained an average of 13-14 million viewers throughout, while season 2 decreased to 10-11 million viewers. season 3 currently averages around 7-8 million viewers, so Heroes has lost almost half of its loyal viewer base since season 1.

as far as how exactly the ratings system works, i'm not sure--Nielsen Media Research handles the ratings measurements in the USA (and i think, even here). they use devices called set meters or people meters that are installed in selected homes to record the viewing habits of those homes. recently, they've added data from the usage of digital video recording devices like TiVo as well, so now even delayed and recorded viewing of a TV show will count as a rating point for it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Mar 29, 2009 at 05:37 PM
Finally, a really decent episode. Hopefully they keep this up.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Mar 29, 2009 at 06:05 PM
The Bryan Fuller episode is as advertised but . . . is it too late, I wonder? I've forgotten why I liked Heroes when it came out. Oh wait, I remember. It was a halfway decent Rising Starsrip off. But now I'm wondering if it's worth it to give a precious hour to this every week.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Mar 29, 2009 at 06:47 PM
Finally, a really decent episode. Hopefully they keep this up.

i agree...last week's episode redeemed the last few ones before it
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Mar 29, 2009 at 10:42 PM
ooh! spill the spoilers please! i stopped watching after sylar got a sidekick
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: richmondes. on Apr 01, 2009 at 02:32 PM
I stop watching when almost everyone can time travel and/or see the future.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Zenki on Apr 01, 2009 at 04:05 PM
SYLAR is dead!!! :o
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Apr 01, 2009 at 04:38 PM
I somewhat raised my hopes after watching last week's episode. This week's episode had great parts in there but there was one glaring flaw.


How could Danko, who has been portrayed as so unbending in his resolve to rid the world of people with special powers, be swayed immediately by Sylar's proposal? Stupid in my book.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Apr 01, 2009 at 08:24 PM
did Nathan kinda said "...Philippines" ?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: RNIverson on Apr 06, 2009 at 01:52 PM
I know it's a bit late, but can't stop laughing in Exposed when Peter and Parkman both had mind-controlling ability. Please don't do that ever again  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kenjase on Jun 04, 2009 at 08:29 PM
Hello. Does anyone know when the season 3 dvd set will be released in the Philippines?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jun 05, 2009 at 11:13 AM
si t-bag of "prison break" nasa heroes na ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090604/people_nm/us_knepper
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: richmondes. on Jun 05, 2009 at 11:18 AM
si t-bag of "prison break" nasa heroes na ;D

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090604/people_nm/us_knepper

ayus si idol
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Zenki on Sep 22, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Peter is back and so the other heroes!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Sep 23, 2009 at 03:13 AM
Yep, season opener is another double header.

No spoilers please. Will watch this later.


 ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dorian_gray on Sep 24, 2009 at 06:25 AM
laki ng katawan ni peter--yum yum! i wonder if there will be nudity.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 24, 2009 at 08:43 PM
How much of a nerd am I that I tried to solve the Algebra question. ;D

So disappointed you can get the answer without even "solving" it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Sep 24, 2009 at 10:31 PM
How much of a nerd am I that I tried to solve the Algebra question. ;D

So disappointed you can get the answer without even "solving" it.

Hahaha kaw din.  :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 25, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Question Peeps,

I have the complete Season 3 but stopped watching at Episode 7 (or 8) because the season s*cked.
Would I understand the season opener without watching the previous episodes?    Uso naman time skipping sa Heroes so I might as well try too.   :)

Thanks.

BTW, House rules. - The most popular TV show worldwide - didnt expect that.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 25, 2009 at 03:34 PM
  Uso naman time skipping sa Heroes so I might as well try too.   :)


LOL
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Huddaf on Sep 25, 2009 at 10:49 PM
Question Peeps,

I have the complete Season 3 but stopped watching at Episode 7 (or 8) because the season s*cked.
Would I understand the season opener without watching the previous episodes?    Uso naman time skipping sa Heroes so I might as well try too.   :)

Thanks.

BTW, House rules. - The most popular TV show worldwide - didnt expect that.


Watching the last 3 episode of season 3 might help. Season 4 kasi starts where season 3 ended.

Might be surprised where Sylar and who Nathan Petrelli is at the moment.

 ;)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 25, 2009 at 11:07 PM
The two-episode 4th season premiere of Heroes garnered the lowest ratings ever in the series history, averaging 6.27 million viewers for episode 1 (Orientation), and sank even lower to 5.77 million during episode 2 (Jump, Push, Fall). The low ratings for the second hour even managed to sink the next program after it, The Jay Leno Show, which had been enjoying good ratings...until the Heroes premiere, LOL   :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Sep 26, 2009 at 08:18 AM
Watching the last 3 episode of season 3 might help. Season 4 kasi starts where season 3 ended.

Might be surprised where Sylar and who Nathan Petrelli is at the moment. ;)

That's good to know.  Dont want to spend 12-15 hours just to complete Episodes 8 - Finale of Season 3. Curious lang ako what's "new" in Season 4.   :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Sep 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM
You might want to read the episode summaries on tv.com so you have an idea what happened in season 3. If you just start with season 4 ep 1 you might be surprised by a few things but you'll eventually catch on because they explain it a lot.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: indie boi on Sep 27, 2009 at 01:17 PM
I thought they were going to get rid of the time-travel plot device crap, looks like they never learned. I predict this to be the last season of Heroes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 02, 2009 at 03:37 PM
You might want to read the episode summaries on tv.com so you have an idea what happened in season 3. If you just start with season 4 ep 1 you might be surprised by a few things but you'll eventually catch on because they explain it a lot.

Tolerable naman pala ang season 3 by watching an episode a day either during lunch break or in the train ride home.    ;D  Ganun pala yon, dapat ipunin buong season bago panoorin para hindi masyadong nakakaburyok    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: sardaukar on Dec 02, 2009 at 04:02 PM
^Ako naman yung tumigil. ;D Dropped it after S04E04. Di na ko interesado kung ano mangyayari sa kanila, eh. Any reason to catch up at all? :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Ctlim on Dec 02, 2009 at 04:39 PM
at season 4, ep 11 still exciting to me  ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: X44 on Dec 02, 2009 at 05:25 PM
Based on the many cons and very few pros in this thread, I know now what to next with Heroes.

Stop watching.

Apparently, it's crap.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: pjayg on Dec 02, 2009 at 06:42 PM
at season 4, ep 11 still exciting to me  ;D

i found ep 11 exciting too  :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 02, 2009 at 08:08 PM
episode 12 is good.  nathan.... saying goodbye to peter was touching.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: garee on Feb 10, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Volume Five "Redemption" end at S04E19.
T-bag defeated.
Sylar... a hero

Volume Six "Brave New World"
Claire exposing herself to the world by jumping from a 30ft diving board and landing face flat then re-arrange her arms/shoulder in front of cameras.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: eckxs on Mar 25, 2010 at 10:19 PM
After Kristen Bell was written out of the show, I had no reason to watch the show. Or if she'll be back, then I'll be back too.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: jas on May 15, 2010 at 10:38 AM
NBC Has Cancelled Heroes
by SuperHeroHype
May 14th, 2010

NBC has decided not to bring back "Heroes" next season.

The network was thinking about wrapping up the show next season with a possible two or four-hour movie, but decided against it due to the high cost and low ratings.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: eckxs on May 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM
It's sad for a once a great and strong show now axed for having low ratings.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: dni on May 28, 2010 at 08:23 AM
i watched the whole series pero parang wala ng pupuntahan yung storyline eh...

sayang we don't get to see Hiro with a bad-ass sword :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: jas on Feb 23, 2014 at 12:27 PM
Heroes Returns to NBC in 2015 as Heroes Reborn!
Source: NBC
February 22, 2014

First rumored last April, NBC is planning to resurrect its superhero-themed series "Heroes" for a special 2015 miniseries event. Thirteen new episodes will be produced with original creator and executive producer Tim Kring at the helm, it was announced today by NBC Entertainment President Jennifer Salke.

“The enormous impact ‘Heroes’ had on the television landscape when it first launched in 2006 was eye-opening,” said NBC Entertainment President Jennifer Salke. “Shows with that kind of resonance don’t come around often and we thought it was time for another installment. We’re thrilled that visionary creator Tim Kring was as excited about jumping back into this show as we were and we look forward to all the new textures and layers Tim plans to add to his original concept. Until we get closer to air in 2015, the show will be appropriately shrouded in secrecy, but we won’t rule out the possibility of some of the show’s original cast members popping back in.”

The original series chronicled the life-changing stories of a series of unrelated ordinary people who discovered they had superhuman abilities. As the saga unfolded, they learned they were part of a grand plan that brought them together to change the world.

With the return of “Heroes Reborn,” NBC will launch a digital series prior to the 2015 premiere that will introduce the characters and new storylines. This leveraging of social media is a way for fans to re-engage with what was one for the true pioneers in multiplatform storytelling.

Plot details for the new episodes are being kept under wraps, but the 13 episodes are set to follow a new stand-alone story arc.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 23, 2014 at 02:29 PM
Heroes Returns to NBC in 2015 as Heroes Reborn!
Source: NBC
February 22, 2014

Wow!  I was a big fan!  Cmon you have to bring back Hiro and Peter Petrelli! :D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Feb 23, 2014 at 06:51 PM
Heroes Reborn or Heroes Reboot? :)

Just bring back Ali Larter, and I'm fine with it :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: the_w0rks on Feb 23, 2014 at 07:09 PM
Yatta!!!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DVD_Freak on Feb 23, 2014 at 07:38 PM
The first season was definitely ground breaking.  I remember every ending ng episode bitin na bitin.  Most memorable sakin yun ending ng isang episode where Peter went inside the apartment of Mohinder.  Then Sylar was there.  He pinned Peter against the wall and started carving his forehead.....fade to black but Peter was screaming in the background.... Bitin! ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: kiwimig on Feb 24, 2014 at 01:01 PM
i loved this show! the first season was excellent but it went downhill from there. i think they suffered from changes in writers and thus lost their focus. i hope they don't screw up this time around.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: the_w0rks on Feb 24, 2014 at 01:54 PM
i loved this show! the first season was excellent but it went downhill from there. i think they suffered from changes in writers and thus lost their focus. i hope they don't screw up this time around.

yeah it was around that time when there was a Writer's strike in the US. That's when most TV shows went downhill. Too bad di na nakarecover from crappy writing yung Heroes.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Feb 24, 2014 at 02:18 PM
pinapanood ko rin dati ito pero after ng first season magulo na yung story
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: bunnygod on Feb 24, 2014 at 05:19 PM
pinakamagulo sa kin ung inintroduce ung circus heroes lead by teabag! :)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: frootloops on Jan 23, 2015 at 01:23 AM
Heroes: Reborn Announces Its Heroic Lead... And The Return Of Another Familiar Face! (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/01/19/heroes-reborn-announces-its-heroic-lead-and-the-return-of-another-familiar-face-2601288?lt_source=external,manual,manual,manual,manual,manual)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: anya618 on Jul 06, 2015 at 02:13 PM
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Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: halvert on Sep 06, 2015 at 05:36 PM
Bumalik na ang Heroes. Wonder if it's any good.