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Title: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 11, 2002 at 06:32 PM
Hello,
  I'm in the market for an LCD projector for HT.  Mainly for dvd's and vhs format.
all are SVGA with 1000 lumens only.  more than this, it is above my budget.  not more
than P120,000 sana.

Here are my choices:
1)  inFocus lp 280    P97,000
2)  Canon lv-s1        P95,000
3)  Sanyo plc-sw20   P120,000

4)  NEC lt-150??? (i don't know how much)
5) or other brands????

I will project it in a 120 inch draper screen.   (I tried the sanyo already and it is ok naman
in my taste.  No visible lines in my viewing area.)  
Ano ba ang ok?

Thanks a lot....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 11, 2002 at 08:12 PM
Ay, sagutin ko na tanong ko.

1) the infocus lp 280 pala is not good for HT.   for conference presentation lang ito ok.
    No composite/component video in.   bad for dvd's
2) The  panansonic pt ae100 naman only has 700 lumens so malabo ito. plus, di maganda
ang reviews nito abroad.
3) NEC lt150?  700 lumens lang yata ito. i might be mistaken
4) THe sanyo sw20 is ok all around but quite expensive at P120,000 but with a 5 yrs warranty

5) the canon lv s1 seems to be the best with all the goodies such as a component video input,  16:9,
very sharp focusing lens plus cheap price of P95,000.
   the bulb cost P30,000 though for 2000 hours only.

Ano kaya?  baka there is something better from the ones on my list.

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 18, 2002 at 07:35 AM
Finally bought a projector:

A sanyo plc sw20.     It is the best compared to any lcd around.  The worst has to be
the panasonic ae100 with a very obvious screen door effect.   Sanyo has a very fine
screendoor not visible even when you are 1 meter away.  Actually, you will notice that
it only has a horizontal line but no vertical lines that can be seen unlike the AE100, infocus 280
or the canon and nec lt100.     So what if the ae100 has 5000 hours, it only has 700 lumens and the picture
is really bad.    You will waste your time and money with this projector

In the sanyo, The colors are perfect with the skintone, blacks and shadow controls set in auto.

I can even project it in a 200" inch white wall.  

If you have P100,000 to spend, don't concentrate to much on AUDIO or Subwoofers, receivers etc.
they are all junk compared to the satisfaction you will get in purchasing a sanyo projector.

Try it yourself in electronics depo libis.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Sep 18, 2002 at 01:45 PM
Madrigal, thanks for the info you gave . I too am looking at the sanyo. But my choice was the plc xw20. XGA projector

Microdata is selling this one at P145K  w/ 2 yrs warranty and provides a service unit in case it needs repair.

Does electronic depot also sell the XW
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 18, 2002 at 06:24 PM
Hello jambam:

I don't think Elect Depo sells the XW at the moment but I think they can order it.  The supplier is
IMATECH.  I guess there is only one supplier of Sanyo Projectors anywhere you buy it.

Haven't tried the xw  xga of sanyo yet.    It is over my budget anyway.  I got the sw20 for P94,500.
the svga is not really that bad since the screen door effect is not too obvious.  

The disadvantage of the lcd's from the 3 days I had it:
1)   2000 hours or less lamp life
2)   You cannot turn it off or on like a tv.  
3)   needs a dark room
4)    Dirt accumulates inside the lens easily.  
5)    Cable TV reception from VHS is Bad.  
6)   It runs very hot and needs a ventilated shelf
7)  Pag binuksan mo na, don't turn it off and on again kasi masisira ang bulb.
8)  Has a burning smell


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: audionote on Sep 24, 2002 at 10:56 AM
Madrigal,
Thanks for sharing.  BTW have you had the chance to look at DLPs? I am planning one but got sidetracked when a bought a Toshiba 53 RPTV last Jan
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 24, 2002 at 07:51 PM
Audionote:
    Yeah, tried the DLP's too but it was over my budget.  Tried an Infocus DLP in
av driver shangrila for P250,000.    There was a screendoor effect too but not too
obvious like a sanyo.      
    The dlp's is supposed to be superior with the inclusion of a faroudja technology line doubler?
but I think it looks the same as the Sanyo lcd's for only P94,500.    You cannot tell the difference
if it was a blind test.   With the P150,000 you can save, you can buy a Stewart grayhawk screen
plus a new speakers?
    The CRT's of course is the best  if it is in your budget.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Sep 25, 2002 at 12:52 PM
Hi Madrigal, Did you buy any screen together w/ your sanyo. Any recommendations for the budget consious.

Also what is available and easy to setup.....

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Sep 26, 2002 at 08:01 AM
Hi jambam:
 
   As for the screen,  I did not buy one and just tried to paint my wall off white to gray.
It is a huge wall that can project up to 200".    The results were OK.
   Now, I am about to get a screen since sayang ang capabilities ng projector since
a real screen would improve on picture brightness and color.  
   The best cheaper screens would be the da-lite brand.   It ranges from P5,000 to P15,000
depending on size.    Check the yellow pages for availability and prices.
   I ordered a 120" wall type manual for P14,+++ whick will arrive by october.
   Draper brand is mid prized at P22,000 plus and the top of the line would be the Stewart brand which is
almost as expensive as the projector.  
    Don't purchase a screen at hifi stores since malaki ang mark-up doon.  Get direct from the
dealer.    Also, a DIY screen from shell canvas is I think "crap"  Ang mahal ng projector tapos
Do it Yourself screen lang?   Plus, you can only get a 50" size maximum yata.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: levi on Sep 27, 2002 at 02:06 AM
For more details on projection screen, you can check this out projection screen  (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8;action=display;threadid=1458) or you can send a PM to neo (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=8;action=viewprofile;user=neo).

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 10, 2002 at 01:40 AM
The Infocus DLP projector at AVDI is being sold for 169,000 until the end of the month. I've tried a couple of projectors you've tested also and DLP is really way over them in terms of performance. The extra cash is definitely worth it.

I've also been actually looking for a projector/screen combo that would range from 150-200k. Funny thing is, I realized that a top-notch turntables such as ClearAudio or Project would give me more joy than a projector.  

After trying out these systems for quite a while I realized that their novelty would wear off after a while. So no offense, but spending 100k+ on audio equipment cannot be labeled as trash. It all depends on the satisfaction it gives the person, right?  ;)

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Oct 11, 2002 at 11:18 AM
To Hamann:
   Hello,  sorry.  Harsh nga ang reply ko re: spending on audio.

In my experience, Iv'e been spending  thousands on Hifi, power amps, speakers
sources etc...... been doing so since I got the audio bug since the 80's. I can say na
exhausted na siguro ako.  

With the advent of the DVD, what is a good Hi Fi audio on dvd with a puny TV.
been using a 48" rear projector since 1990 but you can get total movie experience
with a 120" screen and a quality LCD or DLP projector on a stewart screen.

Just had a party last night ang all my friends were at awe with the projector on a 120" screen
than the dts audio or the room shaking bass of my subs.  
Who cares if our tube amps or vinyl produces live sounding audio.  You are staring at a blank wall listening to music!! when you can listen to superior DTS concert dvds viewing it on a huge screen.  Entertainment
value is tripled.

People actually watch DVDs rather than appreciate the sound of the disc.  Audio is secondary.

This is my experience.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: purple_jedi on Oct 11, 2002 at 12:21 PM
Quote
The best cheaper screens would be the da-lite brand.  It ranges from P5,000 to P15,000
depending on size.    Check the yellow pages for availability and prices.
  I ordered a 120" wall type manual for P14,+++ whick will arrive by october.
  Draper brand is mid prized at P22,000 plus and the top of the line would be the Stewart brand which is
almost as expensive as the projector.  

Hi madrigal,
I'm also looking for for a 120-150" Stewart or Da-lite manual wall mounted screen.  Where did you order yours? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 12, 2002 at 12:23 AM
Yup! whatever makes you happy. Where'd you get the projector anyway? How does it compare to DLP?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 12, 2002 at 12:38 AM
Oh didn't see electronic depot. So how does it compare anyway?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Arnel E. on Oct 13, 2002 at 12:07 PM
I'm working in Beijing, but I'll be coming back to Phils for vacation this December.  I'm planning to get a projector that is portable enough as hand-carry luggage to bring to Beijing.  It's just for my apartment system, so expensive models >P100K aren't needed yet.

A friend who works in Japan can buy a Panasonic projector at around P60K, so that's also an option.  But if you can suggest a locally available model with comparable performance-value less than P100K, the better.  Pls tell me where I can buy it, and if they do home deliveries.

I will be hooked up to the component video output of a Sony DVP S9000ES switched to progressive scan.

If possible, let me know of the most affordable, locally available screen that you've come by, too.

Thanks a lot in advance for the help.

Regards,
ARNEL
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Oct 13, 2002 at 12:29 PM
To Hamann:  
              Hello,  In my point of view, the sanyo lcd  (they have a promo now in the newspapers)
           is comparable to a DLP of infocus (P200,000?) sold in avdi.     I am not a salesman of sanyo but i think
           it is really great for its price of less than P100,000.      For the money I can save, I can get
           an extra P100,000 budget for audio or a pair of lazyboy chairs...  

           For a demo of the sanyo, go to elect. depo.  But do not buy since it is more expensive.

To jlo2:   For my da-lite screen, the prices are almost the same in all the av stores.
             The problem is the availability of the screen.   You can get a 120" from Island
             Photo (try the yellow pages)      84x64 model B. Matte white spectra video.
             If there is no stock, try makati cinema square.  There is a 120" there.  I just
              forgot the name of the store.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Oct 13, 2002 at 12:32 PM
Check the papers last saturday oct 13.  there is a promo of a sanyo plc sw20 at
P99,000 with a free 70x70 screen.  

The sanyo is the best there is for less than P100,000.  
Forget the panasonic.    The screendoor effect really sucks.  the  AE100 in particular.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 13, 2002 at 04:09 PM
So where did you buy your Sanyo for less than 100k?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: purple_jedi on Oct 13, 2002 at 06:13 PM
Thanks madrigal. I hope you won't mind if I PM you regarding installation once I get the FP screen.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Arnel E. on Oct 14, 2002 at 02:14 AM
How about the lower-spec Sanyo PLC SW15?  Is it any good?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 15, 2002 at 02:55 AM
Hey madrigal, sorry to burst your bubble, but I was browsing through the pages of the Sanyo and it stated that this product is also marketed as the Eiki LC-SM3 (Eiki is also owned by Sanyo).

Sonny Tuason of the Home Theater is selling the Eiki LC-SM3+, the upgraded version with 1600 ANSI LUMENS, and I think a 400:1 contrast ratio, for around P85,000.

This was the projector I tried out in his shop, and yes, it's very good indeed for its price.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Oct 16, 2002 at 04:31 PM
Hamann,

Are there any other Eiki models available , also where is this shop....

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Oct 20, 2002 at 01:48 AM
Yup he does have other models. Call Sonny at 8125235 tell him Ryan told you to call him :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Oct 27, 2002 at 12:10 PM
To Hamann and to people in the market for a projector:

    Great to hear that.  I did not know that Eiki brand is also a sanyo.  
    It is good that you liked its performance.    Also, at 85,000, it is very cheap.
    Post here what projector you will decide to purchase.
 
    When I saw the sanyo, I immediately bought it in a few days after auditioning various brands.

   Would have saved P10,000 if I have seen that Eiki a month ago
the sanyo at 1000 lumens is perfect for me.   From what I researched on the
internet, a projector bulb with a 1600 lumens or above has a LOWER life span.
maybe 1200 hours or less
   A panasonic ae100 for example at 700 lumens can last up to 5000 hours.    Picture brightness
is not really noticable as long as the room is really dark.
 
  I guess you know why people like higher lumens.  (for corporate presentations
with uncontrolled lighting conditions.,)    But for a dedicated DVD HT, a 1000 or 1200 lumens
is perfect.    
   
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Oct 27, 2002 at 02:32 PM
madrigal,

another question is , did you get your screen and how do you handle 16:9 material,

what I plan is to connect it to an HTPC once I get a projector, I have been reading a lot in the AVSforum and they say you can get a better picture thru a PC.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Oct 28, 2002 at 09:33 AM
Hello jambam:
    Ordered a  120" dalite screen spectra video format.  84x64 inches.  But as of now,
I am using a DIY screen on a fixed wooden frame with a 120" screen size.
  It is a 4:3 aspect so if I want a widescreen then there will be black bars. I prefer this
4:3 since I can watch tv shows, vhs tapes etc.  undistorted.  

   The sanyo can project a 16:9 or a 4:3 depending on its setting but you cannot
buy a screen with a widescreen here unless you order in avdi.  
 
   As for the PC.  I am not knowledgable with this.   But it guess it will work.
I just think a quality component connection to a dvd is unbeatable with the best clarity and
brightness.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Oct 29, 2002 at 07:06 AM

what I plan is to connect it to an HTPC once I get a projector, I have been reading a lot in the AVSforum and they say you can get a better picture thru a PC.

this is correct since the vid card output displays at high resolution, if ur vid card can display 1024 x 768 resolution at 32bit  color quality witout any problem, then i dont think a DVD player can match this, not even a progressive scan one (well i could also be wrong you know)

this will be my future setup if i can get hold of a good but very reasonable projector..only problem is the controls esp when ur accessing the special features section :-)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 02, 2002 at 10:21 PM
Madrigal,

Do you have the number for imatech , i would like to check if they will be importing the Sanyo plv-z1, w/c i think will be the projector for me.

thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Nov 05, 2002 at 11:39 AM
I am currently demoing an Epson EMP-TW100 LCD projector.  And boy, can this machine deliver stunning video with amazing color and clarity.

I want to measure it against the performance of other projectors such as the usual NECs, Sanyos and Sonys.

Anybody interested with a shootout? :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Nov 06, 2002 at 07:51 AM
Hi revskie.
   I'm up to the challenge,...........  Get that Epson and let's compare it with my projector and other projectors
like a panasonic, nec owned by other pinoydvd members......
   Let's consider picture quality and Price.     Mine cost less than P100,000.   lets see if a P180,000-250,000
projector can beat my sanyo.      
   Txt me at 0919-594-1655
   
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Nov 06, 2002 at 10:48 AM
Hey, Madrigal!

Thanks, ha.

Let's set the shoot-out this weekend kung pwede.  Saturday, November 9.  Do you know of a place where we can do it?

OK sana kung dalawang screens side by side then we feed two projectors a video signal from the same source and we let them do their thing and see.

Anybody else here interested?  Ok sana kung may DLP projector na makasama like the NEC LT150 or the Infocus ScreenPlay 110.

Revskie 8)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 06, 2002 at 11:50 AM
I am still deciding what to buy at this point. Can I join you guys so that I know what to expect .....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Nov 07, 2002 at 06:31 AM
Hello revski:
   I think that double screen demo is great but I think it would be difficult to find
a place that can hold 2 projector screens.  
   My place is ok for a demo.  It is a dedicated HT room with a 110" screen.  Located near
SM city north edsa Q.C.   I'm free 7:00p.m.  onwards...

   BTW:  If you haven't bought the Epson yet then how can you bring it at my place?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Nov 07, 2002 at 09:21 AM
Madrigal,

The schedule is OK.  

I just paid a downpayment at this point.  They gave me a service/demo unit.  I can retract my order anytime if I am not happy with it.

Jambam,

You sure are welcome to join.  But better ask Madrigal first as we are going to use his place for the shoot out.

See you guys.

Revskie
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Nov 07, 2002 at 10:42 PM
To anyone out there with an lcd or dpl projector and is curious as to how it compares to other
brands and technology, try to go to my place.  

To Jambam:
    Sure,  go here.  
Revski:
    What is the specs of the epson?  an xga? what lumens?  how much?

Call or txt me at 0919-594-1655.  Nov. 9 is ok with me.
   
   
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 07, 2002 at 11:08 PM
thanks guys for accomodating me,  madrigal i will text you for the address if i can make it.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Nov 08, 2002 at 09:33 AM
Madrigal,

Here is the review of the Epson TW100 at Projector Central.  All details are there.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_tw100.htm

Revskie 8)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: stradale on Nov 08, 2002 at 10:08 AM
I recently had the opportunity to audition several brands of multi-media projectors for my company given a budget of 300T.

I really liked the In-Focus models especially one that was as small as a landline telephone. Among the brands I tested (Sanyo, Optoma, Panasonic, Epson etc), the In-Focus models appeared to be best in design and build quality.  But I eventually opted for the Optoma EZPro 755, a 2000 lumens, XGA DLP due to its value for the money, features, and aftersales support.  We got it for 245T.

The thing is I'd buy a big top-end TV or even a plasma one before I'd buy any of these projectors for HT use.  Why?  The projector bulb.  These 2000 lumens bulbs will last you around 2000 hours, the last half of which hindi na ganoon ka bright (based on my experience with a bulky old In-Focus model). Easy enough to replace the bulb, but for 30T a pop, huwag na lang.

Sure you can buy the cheaper 1200 or 1600 lumens models but hindi masyadong sharp ang picture and it gets worse the more you use it.



Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Nov 08, 2002 at 10:46 AM
Stradale,

I respect your opinion on the matter.

Let me just point out that there are a newer bunch of digital LCD and DLP projectors SPECIFICALLY designed for HT use.

They are far different from the usual "corporate presentation-use" projectors in that they are less bright and are designed for controlled lighting applications of HT.  The bulbs evetually last longer because of this variation in their design.  Resolution, color accuracy and contrast ratios have improved leaps and bounds.

IMO, nothing beats front projection in getting that ültimate home thater feeling"!  They are the utlimate space savers (as opposed to big screen TVs) and gives you more value for money (as oppose to plasmas), plus, you measure your video screen in FEET!

Cheers!

Revskie
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 08, 2002 at 12:57 PM
I agree w/ revskie, I currently own a 50"Toshiba RPTV w/c has served me for 3 years , but is defective at the moment, it's shear size makes it difficult to get service.

A projector will be cheaper and project a bigger picture , and eat up a lot less space . I had to sacrifice my audio setup when I got the toshiba, due to lack of space in the bedroom.

Once I get to chose my projector I will bring back my audio setup.....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 09, 2002 at 02:46 PM
looks like i will miss your shootout , thanks for the hospitality ,

I hope you will share your agreed findings in the forum

Cheers !!!!

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Arnel E. on Nov 18, 2002 at 07:26 AM
Something that can be bought for less than $500 or P25K.  DaLite electric types, the cheapest ones without remote, already cost at least this much, so I wonder....

Thanks heaps.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bently on Nov 19, 2002 at 01:36 AM
welcome to the forum Arnel Enero! :)

i'm merging this thread with help me choose a projector. TY

bently
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 19, 2002 at 11:12 PM
I bought myself the sanyo sw-20a, and watched "the world is not enough". The family just loves it and they really liked it better than the toshiba 50" RPTV...

Thanks everyone for the tip
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Nov 20, 2002 at 07:20 AM
Hi Jambam:
   Glad to know you got a Sanyo Projector.   Ganda ng picture quality di ba? compared with the other brands.
   I am an advocate of lcd projectors now.    All dvd, HT audio lovers should buy a Projector, if not, sayang lang ang dvd collection and HT setup nyo.
   
  I also own a RPTV but only a 46" sony.  Parang sobrang liit nito and every TV is see as compared with the 120" lcd projector.    
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 20, 2002 at 03:09 PM
Hi Madrigal,

Thanks, I actually looked at the other sanyo clones too , just trying to get a better deal. I didn't have much chance to compare w/ other brands. Anyway I ended up w/ a dealer  w/c gave me a 2 yr warranty and service unit clause in case they need time to repair it.

I would suggest that for people that can afford an extra P35K to get the xga version , so that there is less screendoor effect for bigger sizes of screen.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on Nov 28, 2002 at 08:04 PM
Hi jambam:
    the xga is great.    Too bad, i just got the svga.  Anyway for that 35T spent more for it, i'll just buy a
spare bulb.  I only used about 12 dvd views total or about 24 hours and now i see a little deterioration in
film brightness.   It is a little dim now as compared when it was new 3 months ago.
   Now, i seldom use it since i am scared it may become dimmer from being overused.  Maybe psychological lang ito
in me.  Ever since I bought it, people say that the bulb is very expensive.  Now i am paranoid of this bulb being busted.
   
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 29, 2002 at 02:50 PM
Madrigal,

I think it is just you getting used to it , but the brigthness is the same, it  won't get that bad w/ 35 hrs only. Also a spare bulb is only 20K.

Use it and enjoy , as that is what you paid for.....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Dec 16, 2002 at 02:46 PM
have a couple of questions:

do RPTVs have bulbs too? if they do, what are their expected lifespans? how do they compare with LCD projector bulbs in terms of durability?

are bulbs "upgradeable"? let's say i have an old EIKI xga projector which can project at 700 lumens. can i just buy a new bulb model that will allow me to project at 1000 lumens or more?

thanks guys!


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Dec 16, 2002 at 04:36 PM
Tuff, Generally RPTV mostly have CRT's , so no bulb.

on the subject of upgrading bulbs, i don't think so. but you could try the service center for your Eiki , and check if the higher wattage bulb will fit. If you can have total light control that would actually be the most beneficial for you.... rgds
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Dec 18, 2002 at 05:55 AM
Tuff, Generally RPTV mostly have CRT's , so no bulb.

on the subject of upgrading bulbs, i don't think so. but you could try the service center for your Eiki , and check if the higher wattage bulb will fit. If you can have total light control that would actually be the most beneficial for you.... rgds

thanks jambam!

yup, our curtains still can't keep all the lights out. will blackout cloth do the job? i'm currently using this same cloth as my projector screen.

by the way, i agree with you guys: a projector provides a totally different HT experience. i really feel like i'm making most of my 5.1 (hopefully 6.1 soon!) setup.

i'll check it out with EIKI's distributors.




Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Dec 19, 2002 at 09:27 AM
tuff,  Blackout cloth should really help, if you ever get around to buying some can you advise where you got it
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Dec 19, 2002 at 03:51 PM
tuff,  Blackout cloth should really help, if you ever get around to buying some can you advise where you got it

You can find them at most Shell Canvass branches. there's a branch in glorietta. if you're from pasig, they have a branch in MC Home Depot (which is where i got the cloth for my projector screen). in cubao, there's one near the kamias/kamuning corner EDSA branch. for those down south, i think there's one along the hi-way. if you're going up north, its to your right. i believe its at along the service road between the alabang ang sucat exits.

if you're using it for a screen, make sure that you avoid folding the cloth to prevent creases. i think mine is 5'' x 6'' and it cost me a little over P500.

Off-topic: btw, i think you're glad i decided against buying your ADCOM amps. now that your projector has provided you more space, your amps should be back in business soon.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Dec 20, 2002 at 08:35 AM
tuff ok i know shell canvas , do they call it as black out cloth or something else.

If you are looking for a new projector I would suggest waiting for the new infocus X1 when it becomes locally available . It seems like a new value leader...

P.S. I bought a Yamaha RVX-1200 and have found it sufficient to drive my thiels so the adcoms are still in the closet
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Dec 27, 2002 at 12:34 AM
tuff ok i know shell canvas , do they call it as black out cloth or something else.

yup! that's how they call it:black out cloth. it's supposed to serve as lining for curtains.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Jan 02, 2003 at 12:03 AM
Sanyo, through MicroData (a local Sanyo distributor), recently released in the country the Sanyo PLV-Z1.  I think its going for P93K.

It got rave reviews at ProjectorCentral.com and was specifically designed for Home Theater use.

You might want to check that out.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jan 02, 2003 at 02:22 AM
What are your thoughts on the InFocus ScreenPlay Series? Is it any good or are there better projectors?

(http://www.infocushome.com/i/eng/home/header_main.jpg)

Any idea on how much a projector bulb costs and it's lifespan?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 02, 2003 at 11:11 AM
I've seen demos of both the ScreenPlay 110 and the 7200. Was not impressed with the 110. For one thing its resolution is "only" 848x480 or 800x600. The DVD I watched looked skewed and the unit was noisy. Sayang, as its price is lower than a 57 in. RPTV's (at 100+k).

The 7200 was impressive. Resolution is 1280 x 720 so it can handle high-def signals. The HD tape and DVD (scaled to 720p) that I saw looked fabulous. There was some random flickering, maybe due to the specific unit I saw.

Choices at the same price would be the Sharp XV-Z9000U and Marantz VP12S2, like the InFocus they are all DLP. At a lower price, the Sony VPL-VW11HT, an LCD projector, would be worth looking into. Have only seen the InFocus, but the others have rave reviews.

At that price, the choice would be between a projector and a 50-in plasma. Which one would you guys pick?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jan 02, 2003 at 02:38 PM
I've seen demos of both the ScreenPlay 110 and the 7200. Was not impressed with the 110. For one thing its resolution is "only" 848x480 or 800x600. The DVD I watched looked skewed and the unit was noisy. Sayang, as its price is lower than a 57 in. RPTV's (at 100+k).

The 7200 was impressive. Resolution is 1280 x 720 so it can handle high-def signals. The HD tape and DVD (scaled to 720p) that I saw looked fabulous. There was some random flickering, maybe due to the specific unit I saw.

Choices at the same price would be the Sharp XV-Z9000U and Marantz VP12S2, like the InFocus they are all DLP. At a lower price, the Sony VPL-VW11HT, an LCD projector, would be worth looking into. Have only seen the InFocus, but the others have rave reviews.

At that price, the choice would be between a projector and a 50-in plasma. Which one would you guys pick?
The LS110 I saw costs around P214,000 while the LS7200's around P470,000. How much did you see yours?

Yung lamp? Any idea as to how long it'll last?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: cyberaudionut on Jan 02, 2003 at 02:57 PM
I've seen demos of both the ScreenPlay 110 and the 7200. Was not impressed with the 110. For one thing its resolution is "only" 848x480 or 800x600. The DVD I watched looked skewed and the unit was noisy. Sayang, as its price is lower than a 57 in. RPTV's (at 100+k).

The 7200 was impressive. Resolution is 1280 x 720 so it can handle high-def signals. The HD tape and DVD (scaled to 720p) that I saw looked fabulous. There was some random flickering, maybe due to the specific unit I saw.

Choices at the same price would be the Sharp XV-Z9000U and Marantz VP12S2, like the InFocus they are all DLP. At a lower price, the Sony VPL-VW11HT, an LCD projector, would be worth looking into. Have only seen the InFocus, but the others have rave reviews.

At that price, the choice would be between a projector and a 50-in plasma. Which one would you guys pick?

I've seen the Infocus, Sharp, Marantz and a couple of other DLP projectors (Runco and SIM Seleco).  The worst was the Infocus and the best was the Sharp XV-Z9000U.

50-in plasma vs. front projector --> A projector can give you the "theater-like" experience due to the size limitation of plasmas.  However, projectors are very sensitive to light.  Your room has to be really dark to realize their full potential.  If you have a dedicated HT and can control light, then go for a DLP.  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 02, 2003 at 06:21 PM
The LS110 I saw costs around P214,000 while the LS7200's around P470,000. How much did you see yours?

Yung lamp? Any idea as to how long it'll last?
Your price for the 7200 is lower than I remember. Lamp is rated at 2000 hours.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 02, 2003 at 06:27 PM
Thanks for the reviews, cyberaudionut, and welcome to PinoyDVD!

I will have a dedicated HT, and I hear that the newest DLP projectors can be enjoyed even with some light on. Of course, the cost is still the major issue.  :)

What the projectors (and plasmas) offer is thin screen that doesn't get in the way of acoustics, like a big RPTV can, as I plan to use the system for music at least half of the time.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jan 02, 2003 at 08:21 PM
From a cost point of view it looks like plasmas come out tops vs. DLP based projectors. The lamp lifespan's too short at around 1 year (6hr/day) vs. 13 years (6hr/day)...

Then again you'd probably buy a new display after 8 years...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Jan 02, 2003 at 09:25 PM
With the emergence of the X1 it looks like the price difference with a plasma TV would be a lot farther apart. I was about to buy the Sanyo/Eiki projector but then I also heard about the Infocus X1.

It looks like it has been receiving fantastic reviews, with the only bad comment about it is standard among DLP proj., which is seeing rainbows. Although not all owners have seen this in their units. It looks like some units are more affected than others.

Their local distributor here will be launching it around end of January. I'll be taking a look at it before I decide on my final purchase.

Reviews:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=196119
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: cyberaudionut on Jan 02, 2003 at 11:04 PM
Thanks for the reviews, cyberaudionut, and welcome to PinoyDVD!

I will have a dedicated HT, and I hear that the newest DLP projectors can be enjoyed even with some light on. Of course, the cost is still the major issue.  :)

What the projectors (and plasmas) offer is thin screen that doesn't get in the way of acoustics, like a big RPTV can, as I plan to use the system for music at least half of the time.

Thanks, DVD Addict.  My brother, technogeek, sort of introduced me to this forum.

Not quite true about the newer DLPs and light...The smallest amount of light still messes up the picture.  Like I said, I tried them all (in the past 6 months) before I bought one.

Are you building your HT from scratch or will you be using an existing room?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jan 03, 2003 at 03:07 AM
With the emergence of the X1 it looks like the price difference with a plasma TV would be a lot farther apart. I was about to buy the Sanyo/Eiki projector but then I also heard about the Infocus X1.

It looks like it has been receiving fantastic reviews, with the only bad comment about it is standard among DLP proj., which is seeing rainbows. Although not all owners have seen this in their units. It looks like some units are more affected than others.

Their local distributor here will be launching it around end of January. I'll be taking a look at it before I decide on my final purchase.

Reviews:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=196119
Any idea as to the price? I've seen em being sold online for $1,449.00 (http://store.yahoo.com/shophiq/x1.html)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 03, 2003 at 09:32 AM
[I tried them all (in the past 6 months) before I bought one.

Are you building your HT from scratch or will you be using an existing room?


From scratch :)

Where did you audition the PJs?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: cyberaudionut on Jan 03, 2003 at 12:41 PM
[I tried them all (in the past 6 months) before I bought one.

Are you building your HT from scratch or will you be using an existing room?


From scratch :)

Where did you audition the PJs?

Auditioned some at home, some at the 2002 Home Entertainment show in NY, the rest at dealer showrooms in the NY/NJ area.

Am about to finish mine which was built from scratch and can offer various tips/techniques on design, construction, equipment, set-up and calibration if you're interested. Pics are under General->pictures of your HT set-up->page 6 (technogeek's sister).
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 03, 2003 at 06:36 PM
Am about to finish mine which was built from scratch and can offer various tips/techniques on design, construction, equipment, set-up and calibration if you're interested. Pics are under General->pictures of your HT set-up->page 6 (technogeek's sister).

Wow! That is one sweet room! Congrats!
I'm more audio-centric, but I'll take you up on your offer. I'll PM you (a lot of) questions soon if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: saling-pusa on Jan 16, 2003 at 09:49 AM
I bought myself the sanyo sw-20a, and watched "the world is not enough". The family just loves it and they really liked it better than the toshiba 50" RPTV...

Magkano yung Sanyo SW 20 sa Pilipinas? Oks ba ito? 1,000 lumens nito at contrast ay 350:1 Sa Tokyo on-line ay worth Y160,000 at P0.45 bale almost P80K.. mabigat ba ito??
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: saling-pusa on Jan 16, 2003 at 01:36 PM
Any review for Epson EMP-505 and/or 715?

EMP505: 1,100 ANSI Lumens, 1.677 million pixels, contrast ratio 400:1, 800X600X3, SXGA, XGA, SVGA, VGA, 2.7 kgs.

How much is this unit in the Philippines? Equivalent model in Japan Epson ELP-505 has a catalogue price of Y498,000 but the lowest on-line Tokyo price is Y146,773 plus 5% tax (thats 70% off the MRSP). Roughly equivalent to P70K...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Jan 16, 2003 at 03:12 PM
the sw20a was P99K  w/ dvd player + screen. I am sure you can get a similar deal...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: saling-pusa on Jan 16, 2003 at 03:31 PM
the sw20a was P99K  w/ dvd player + screen. I am sure you can get a similar deal...
Where did you get this deal? in any Home Theatre store?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Jan 16, 2003 at 10:11 PM
microdata , the distributor
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Jan 19, 2003 at 02:03 AM
What kind of screen is that? You can also get it as the Eiki LC-SM3 or the Boxlight equivalent. They are all the same. The Eiki sells for around 85k.

I'm still waiting to be able to demo the X1. Aside from this, I'm also considering the Sony VPL-VW11HT. If I don't find any of these satisfactory, then I may consider the Sanyo/Eiki
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jan 19, 2003 at 09:45 AM
I'm also considering the Sony VPL-VW11HT.

Hi Hamann. Where is this available?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Jan 19, 2003 at 09:13 PM
Hong Kong, unfortunately. You can get the Sony VPL-VW10HT for even less than the Sanyo. You should check that out too.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: saling-pusa on Jan 24, 2003 at 05:16 PM
Ang mga standard weight ng LCD projector ay 2.7-3 Kgs.... mabigat ba ito ?? Alam kong mas mabigat ito kesa sa laptop... ??? :o
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Jan 24, 2003 at 07:17 PM
Yup thats about right. Some are even heavier.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:42 PM
I just auditioned the Sanyo Z1 and this afternoon and I'm speechless!!!!! I never expected a projector that cheap to look THAT GOOD. Pictures were sharp, colors were rich and saturated. I even viewed that projector with only an S video cable, against an ordinary presentation screen and it was not even calibrated. We just turned it on right out of the box.

I'm so glad I waited this long before I chose one. I almost bought the Sanyo Sw20a which I thought was already ok, but I heard the X1 was coming out. My friend has it in the US and because he has compared the Z1 and the X1 and cannot find any differences between the two excellent image qualities of the projectors. If you were to find a fault in each one, it would be that the Z1 still has that screendoor, but I have to say it is only noticeable when you do get close to the screen. With the DLP X1 it is the rainbows that annoy a number of people, although some can live with it.

At least now I know what projector I'm going to buy. With a price of just around 100k this seems like the steal of the year. The picture quality is so good it can beat so many rear-projection TVs you swing at it. In fact, the picture does not look like a projectors picture quality anymore. We even tested it with lighting and the results were excellent. Plus of course, viewing with a 100" screen  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:15 PM
I also wanted the sanyo z1 , but could not wait. so bought the sw20a late november.

I have finally built my HTPC w/c drives my projector and also the toshiba RPTV... I just move it between the 2.. And indeed there is a noticable improvement in picture quality
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:08 AM
I just auditioned the Sanyo Z1 and this afternoon and I'm speechless!!!!! I never expected a projector that cheap to look THAT GOOD. Pictures were sharp, colors were rich and saturated. I even viewed that projector with only an S video cable, against an ordinary presentation screen and it was not even calibrated. We just turned it on right out of the box.

I'm so glad I waited this long before I chose one. I almost bought the Sanyo Sw20a which I thought was already ok, but I heard the X1 was coming out. My friend has it in the US and because he has compared the Z1 and the X1 and cannot find any differences between the two excellent image qualities of the projectors. If you were to find a fault in each one, it would be that the Z1 still has that screendoor, but I have to say it is only noticeable when you do get close to the screen. With the DLP X1 it is the rainbows that annoy a number of people, although some can live with it.

At least now I know what projector I'm going to buy. With a price of just around 100k this seems like the steal of the year. The picture quality is so good it can beat so many rear-projection TVs you swing at it. In fact, the picture does not look like a projectors picture quality anymore. We even tested it with lighting and the results were excellent. Plus of course, viewing with a 100" screen  ;D

where did you auditioned it? are you  in the phils btw? is the X1 still not available in asia-pacific?

the x1 is getting great reviews from casual users and professionals alike, and is selling like pancakes.....ive had it ordered like 2 weeks already and im still waiting for the stocks to arrive, im already starting to look for alternatives and im geared towards the z1 too,

i believe the x1 is cheaper than the z1 right?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Hamann on Feb 07, 2003 at 09:00 PM
The home theater in Salcedo village :)
I've been waiting for the X1 too but it's currently out of stock everywhere. What made up my mind is the shootouts in avsforum where people couldnt really tell them much apart. Having read that I jumped at the Z1. If they were that close then I probably won't feel that bad if the X1 IS better.

Plus I wouldnt know how I'd react to the rainbows if I did see them.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Feb 08, 2003 at 03:43 PM
The home theater in Salcedo village :)
I've been waiting for the X1 too but it's currently out of stock everywhere. What made up my mind is the shootouts in avsforum where people couldnt really tell them much apart. Having read that I jumped at the Z1. If they were that close then I probably won't feel that bad if the X1 IS better.

Plus I wouldnt know how I'd react to the rainbows if I did see them.

i see, so kay sonny ka pala kumuha, how much were u able to get it? (kung confi pm mo na lang s akin :-)

oo nga, since there is no clear winner between the two, id stick with the x1 since it is cheaper,i almost changed my mind buti na lang tumawag yung supplier and he confirmed na tuesday daw dadating yung x1

and besides, ive been using dlp pjs in the past and ive never seen rainbows (yet) though i get minor headaches when the settings are too bright, but since in film mode, its a lot darker than in presentation mode, i think id be ok with it...if not, i'll just return the unit and get the z1 probably

enjoy your pj and post your feedback here :-)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: neo on Feb 15, 2003 at 01:43 AM
Hamann/kimera,

I'm also interested in the Z1 and the X1...I wasn't aware that they were locally available na pala. I've been dying to audition these projectors and see how they compare to the NEC LT150 which I have.  

The LT150 is a decent machine and performs quite well.  I partner it with an iScan so the images I get are quite great, particularly in a light controlled environment.  I use a 80"x44" DIY screen and watching well mastered DVDs on it simply blows me away.  Fortunately, I don't see the rainbows.

My only complaints are the LT150's slight fan noise and light leakage.  I'd like to see how the Z1 and X1 handle these problems.

Hamann, how much is Sonny T. selling the Z1?  MicroData and ImaTech also sell Sanyo projectors but their websites don't show the Z1 yet. May Z1 na ba sila?

Kimera, who's the local supplier of the X1 and how much are they selling it for?  Doesn't ATI carry the X1?

Cheers  8)

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Feb 17, 2003 at 05:51 AM

Kimera, who's the local supplier of the X1 and how much are they selling it for?  Doesn't ATI carry the X1?

Cheers  8)



official distributor is ATI yup, but the last time i talked to them is nde pa daw available, just give them a call to know when the units will be arriving

im quite impressed with the X1, great colors and impressive details, that's all i can say coz i really dont know much about the technical side of it so i cant give a thorough review...simply put, im satisfied, maybe bcoz its my first pj heheheh

i tried stand alone DVD player then my HTPC, looks like i need to configure my HTPC more coz i only get a minor improvement in terms of video quality

my only problem is ive got a small room, its a dedicated HT room (4m x 2.7m x 3.2m ) so pag 8ft yung projection, medyo masakit sa ulo so i had to settle with smaller screens, at 6ft diagonal oks na sya,kaso bitin hehehe...sayang, looks like i need to convince the wifey to convert the living room to HT room and vice versa

noise is tolerable, mas maingay pa nga yung PC ko eh but i dont mind coz malakas naman yung audio di ba?

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: everglide on Feb 23, 2003 at 09:58 PM
i have a question lang. yun bang X1 is 16:9 or compatible lang ? i know that the sanyo Z1 is 16:9 native.  because i'm choosing between the two.
thanks!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: neo on Feb 24, 2003 at 06:58 PM
Hi everglide,

Welcome to PinoyDVD :D.

The In Focus X1 is a standard SVGA resolution (800x600)projector.   To watch anamorphic DVDs in full resolution, you'll have to switch to the widescreen mode.  

You are correct, the Sanyo Z1 is a native 16:9 widescreen LCD projector which uses a 960 x 540 resolution format.  

Cheers  8)

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: everglide on Feb 24, 2003 at 11:05 PM
thanks neo for the warm welcome!
so meaning no more black bars on the top and bottom when you switch to widescreen mode (X1)?
thanks!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: neo on Feb 25, 2003 at 07:37 AM
hi everglide,

Actually, you'll still have black bars at the top and bottom of your screen just like when watching "letterboxed" movies because you are viewing a "widescreen" DVD on a 4:3 projector panel.  However, unlike in "letterbox", these upper and lower portions of the panel are actually "turned-off" instead of just projecting black.  

When watching an anamorphic DVD, the projector (switched to widescreen mode) will use only the middle 800x450 pixels for projecting the DVDs full 480 resolution lines.  Although the native resolution of the projector is 4:3 (800x600), switching it to "widescreen mode" in effect turns it into an 800x450 widescreen projector.

Cheers  8)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Feb 27, 2003 at 03:16 AM
thanks neo for the warm welcome!
so meaning no more black bars on the top and bottom when you switch to widescreen mode (X1)?
thanks!

yes you'll still have the black bars, and depends on the aspect ratio of the movie, remember, maraming aspect ratios na naglabasan na widescreens, most popular is the 2.35:1, but if you're gonna watch movies with 16:9 ARs, bale mukhang full screen na sya but your resolution was cropped to 800x450 instead of the native 800x600, which is fairly ok since wala naman nawala dahil wala naman talagang data dun sa 150pixels na na-crop out

and yes, the X1 is native 4:3 but with widescreen (16:9) mode
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: redkoji on Feb 27, 2003 at 01:30 PM
Hong Kong, unfortunately. You can get the Sony VPL-VW10HT for even less than the Sanyo. You should check that out too.

Sony VPL-VW10HT is expensive here because Custom charged taxes to it like the projection T.V. Sanyo SW-20 is tax lower since the model most of you mentioned are for data projection. Thus it is much more for business presentation.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: redkoji on Apr 04, 2003 at 02:53 PM
Hey Guys,

Baka interested kayo sa SONY PROJECTORS....we are having a SPECIAL SALE....

look at the general section
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on May 21, 2003 at 05:09 PM
Both X1 and Z1 are now available, and I think prices have dropped a lot , since I saw advertising from microdata ( sanyo dealer) a xga projector w/ screen + dvd player for P79K i think...

Does anyone here have new prices for these ...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jun 03, 2003 at 03:48 AM
What's the farthest and biggest picture size have you guys projected? I'm getting a 15 feet diagonal screen and I'm a bit scared that the projector (Infocus X1) wouldn't project a good image on screen. I've used the display calculator on Infocus and it says I'd need to position the projector 22-26 feet away from the screen & the projector's rated to go back til 32 feet. So anyone experienced with this predicament?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jun 03, 2003 at 07:58 AM
Lots of owners say the X1 should not be projected to more than 80 inches, 90 max. Check out avsforum, lots of X1 owners there. It loses a lot of its brightness as the image gets even slightly bigger than that. Few DLP owners (of other models) project to greater than 110 inch diagonal.

The only one I've heard of that people project to more than 10 feet, with good results, is the big Sony LCD (model 10, 11, and now 12).

Good luck! Nothing like a pj.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jun 03, 2003 at 06:36 PM
Oh bugger... So I'm stuck at 8 feet diagonal? :(
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jun 03, 2003 at 07:41 PM
I've decided to buy the X1 in the US. I'll be able to get the projector for $899.00 (after rebate) and the 9x12' projector screen for $402.

Can anyone suggest an online retailer for the above two item and what brand of screen is the best to get?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jun 03, 2003 at 10:43 PM
 15feet diagonal is way too big for the X1 to handle...max you can get without sacrificing PQ is 100" across 4:3 AR at a distance of probably at least 3.5m and up...you can use infocus' distance/screensize calculator but as ive said, dont go over 100" otherwise its crap

so far, its quite difficult to find an online retailer from the US that accepts international orders, accepts  credits cards not issued in US and/or delivers internationally

this was my option before but ended up buying from a UK based online retailer kasi nga wala ako makita, and besides, i computed the customs charge and VAT plus the delivery and added it to the cost, would turn out almost the same as ive gotten it over here so no difference at all

also, the free 3 year extended warranty and rebate is not honored outside the US and have expired already last 31 MAY

for screen, get either a blackout fabric or a parkland plastic...right now im using a blackout fabric and its doing great, somehow minimized the rainbows...am still looking for a parkland plastic though

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dolpy Digital on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:37 PM
For what its worth, I auditioned a NEC HT-1000 (yep, one of the Top Faves in AVSForum & Proj Cntrl) through
a local NEC dealer and it was fantastic.

To my eyes, it's as good as the Screenplay 7200 w/c
is an HD2 DLP and yet costs much less. It'll be a nice gift for Father's day..... keep dream'n.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jun 06, 2003 at 11:57 PM
BHPhoto.com (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/) sells & ships equipment to international customers.

I'm having the unit shipped to a US address. The $100 rebate on the above mentioned website is extended til June 30th. Dunno about the warranty extension though.

I'll probably buy the screen here. Hauling luggage 15 feet long is no picknick.

I find the pricetag of the NEC a bit too daunting but I feel the specs doesn't warrant this. Only improvements I see over the X1's the contrast, XGA resolution, inclusion of a DVI-D port, lower noise and a PC Card reader. With everything else medyo lugi ka.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dolpy Digital on Jun 08, 2003 at 02:11 AM
The local price on the NEC HT-1000 I got was fairly close to the online prices advertised in the US, which is way below its MSRP.

I thought of ordering the unit online from the US and shipped to a US address, but the hassle of bringing it back here and the warranty coverage incase of service and repairs will be a major headache. Getting it from a local NEC dealer should take care of this problem.

I may also add that the HT-1000 has a sealed light engine/optic, a 4x speed six segment color wheel, and a few other features that make it a class of its own, and features found to units costing much more.

Goodluck!

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jun 08, 2003 at 03:48 AM
BHPhoto.com (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/) sells & ships equipment to international customers.

I'm having the unit shipped to a US address. The $100 rebate on the above mentioned website is extended til June 30th. Dunno about the warranty extension though.

I'll probably buy the screen here. Hauling luggage 15 feet long is no picknick.

I find the pricetag of the NEC a bit too daunting but I feel the specs doesn't warrant this. Only improvements I see over the X1's the contrast, XGA resolution, inclusion of a DVI-D port, lower noise and a PC Card reader. With everything else medyo lugi ka.

i think ive tried getting one from them also and if i remember it correctly, they wont allow credit card purchase unless the card is issued in the US or it's a Diners or American Express credit card.....another way to pay is thru wire transfer

anyway, goodluck on your hunt
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jun 08, 2003 at 05:54 PM
The local price on the NEC HT-1000 I got was fairly close to the online prices advertised in the US, which is way below its MSRP.

Dolpy, could you please PM the dealer and, if you don't mind, the price. Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dolpy Digital on Jun 09, 2003 at 03:55 PM
For those who might be interested on Front Projectors (FP), the local NEC dealer I earlier  got a quote for the NEC HT-1000 is AVLS, All Visual & Lights System.

Aside from NEC FP's they also carry EPSON, models TW-100H, and the OPTOMA brand w/c are also very good-excellent for HT use. The prices are reasonable and provide full warranty and service on their Fp's.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jun 13, 2003 at 10:46 PM
Purchasing the X1 is proving to be most difficult. I hope I can find a reseller in Las Vegas.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: evergliden on Jul 04, 2003 at 03:10 PM
i just got the sanyo plv-z1. i was surprise with the good image and clarity of colors, it's a good buy for the price!
thanks neo and kimera!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 06, 2003 at 07:09 AM
Are Sharpvision projectors any good?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 07, 2003 at 02:48 AM
between the z1 and the x1,which one would you choose?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: maxpayne on Jul 10, 2003 at 09:15 AM
you guys may want to take a look at the sony cineza vpl-hs1.  talked to a guy from a firm called avidpro and he said they are selling these at p120k with free dvd player (sony dvp-k370).  call marvs arcega at 843-9052.

on the other hand, you may also want to take a look at the lg rd-jt21 dlp projector.  avidpro is also selling this at p95k.  

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jul 11, 2003 at 07:25 AM
Are Sharpvision projectors any good?

the Sharp XV Z1000 is one heck of a projector parekoy

try to audition the Z1 and the X1, best bang for the buck whichever you get between the two
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 11, 2003 at 03:04 PM
Do you guys know if the x1 or the z1 is available in hongkong,I have a friend whos going there .
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 16, 2003 at 12:37 AM
my friend agreed to bring in the sanyo plv-z1 at 85k landed price,anybody interested just let me know  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jul 16, 2003 at 09:53 PM
Wow, the projector boom has hit pdvd!  :)

I can empathize; the last time I made a presentation using a business projector, I sneaked in a tape measure to see how many diagonal inches the pj was throwing. Sabi tuloy ng cliente, "Ang sama yata ng balak mo, a."

BTW, for those eyeing the Cineza, X1, and Z1, I hear that the Panasonic L300u is a great alternative.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 16, 2003 at 11:50 PM
yup,and so i hear but its selling here at 130k  ;D.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Jul 17, 2003 at 01:14 PM
I have a friend whos a reseller of Panasonic Projectors, for those of you who are interested, you can e mail me privately your contact details and ill have them send  you the details i.e specs, pricing
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 21, 2003 at 01:44 PM
Yipee,I Finally got my Sanzo plv-z1,but I need a 25 ft long male to male vga cable,does anybody have any idea where i can get one.Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Jul 21, 2003 at 08:24 PM
Congratulations bigbird!!!  ;D

Since I'm kinda scared about the rainbow effects on X1...

I think I'm going to take the plunge with an Epson Powerlite S1(LCD) . I've seen it perform on TechTV - ScreenSavers ... Even with a TV studio environment, the video was still viewable (Pearl Harbor DVD)...

I checked out the specs, ok naman. 1200 ANSI Lumens, HDTV, 4:3/16:9... They have a fix for the screendoor effect, even though visible ok na daw.

BTW, it costs $999 (U.S.) ...

A local distributor (Audio Visual) sells it at 72k.

Guys what do you think?


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 22, 2003 at 12:09 AM
Why not just go for the z1,I read the review of the s1 at projector central and it is not that encouraging. ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Jul 22, 2003 at 01:07 AM
don,

get whatever gets you off. my preference for the X1 (i love my baby) is from being spoiled from my previous office DLP projector. I've seen a demo in a sharp, canon & ekea(?) lcd projectors and the issues that these projectors have before like the screen door effect is there.

also DLP technology is the choice for the forthcomming D-Cinema standard for digital projected theaters. sure the x1 doesn't do 2K or 3K resolutions but the technology is the same. so if it's good enough for George Lucas then it is good enough for me. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Jul 22, 2003 at 08:18 PM
bigbird, $1k lang budget ko hehehe  ;D

DViant,

I guess I really need to demo the X1  ;D I'll take my time to decide.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jul 24, 2003 at 08:07 AM
bigbird, $1k lang budget ko hehehe  ;D

DViant,

I guess I really need to demo the X1  ;D I'll take my time to decide.

Thanks guys!

chief,

i've seen the S1 in action and comparing with the Z1 and X1, looks like it wont hit it big, esp that the X1 is still cheaper and the Z1 going down on prices lately

but then again it could be the setup of the seller, but what i saw didnt impress me

its up to you anyway, demo the S1 and try to at least do a side by side with either X1 and Z1

tip: for a few dollars more, id say get the Z1 (am i biased? hehehe but i do own an X1 too so not really biased at all...cheers!)

@bigbird: hows your Z1? its really quite a big leap isnt it? from a 28" TV to a 110" cinema like experience......what i did for my vga cable is i used UTP CAT5E cables and made it up myself, using the appropriate VGA connectors, i dont see any difference when im using that and the 6feet vga cable i bought
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:17 AM
Yes indeed,actually i came from 7 years old conventional non flat tv,so you could imagine my shock when I saw how good a picture this thing can deliver even on my light blue wall.the reason  why I went with the z1 instead of a x1 is because during my one month of research on the net,esp in the avsforum.I can probably recall at least 3 threads where in actual side to side shootout from people who have access to both this fp,the z1 came out on top .although many said this two can be made to be to look like one another,I guess it all bolis the to whether you want a 4:3 or 16:9,with regards to screendoor,it can be remedid  by sitting further than the recomended 1.5 or by a slight defocus while rainbow has no cure if you can see it,bottomline just choose your poison.

PS:this is just my personal opinion. I hope I dont get flamed hehe.as deviant said ,get whatever gets you off  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: evergliden on Jul 24, 2003 at 09:18 AM
nice one bigbird! congrats! enjoy your z1 !
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Jul 26, 2003 at 12:20 AM
thanks evergliden,until now i still can't believe how good this thing is.the only drawback is that I have a lot of P* disk and they look like crap when viewed at a 92" screen.so from now on p*disk wont be an option for me anymore hehehe.btw I'm right now I'm projecting it at a 45x80 DIY blackout cloth,I can only imagine what it will look like with a dalite highpower  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Jul 26, 2003 at 11:20 AM
chief,

i've seen the S1 in action and comparing with the Z1 and X1, looks like it wont hit it big, esp that the X1 is still cheaper and the Z1 going down on prices lately

but then again it could be the setup of the seller, but what i saw didnt impress me

its up to you anyway, demo the S1 and try to at least do a side by side with either X1 and Z1

tip: for a few dollars more, id say get the Z1 (am i biased? hehehe but i do own an X1 too so not really biased at all...cheers!)

Thanks kimera! Btw, can the x1 perform well in a well-lit environment?

I'll try to demo these projectors. Thanks guys! I still have a month to decide. :)

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jul 26, 2003 at 02:36 PM
Thanks kimera! Btw, can the x1 perform well in a well-lit environment?

I'll try to demo these projectors. Thanks guys! I still have a month to decide. :)



unfortunately, NO, these pjs are not good in well-lit rooms, well most front projection systems arent good at well-lit environments even the much expensive ones, and since we're talking about entry level pjs, sad to say they dont "shine" when there's light around

i believe only high-end CRT pjs can produce decent projection on lit areas,

and besides, mas oks manuod kapag medyo madilim di ba, btw, you can have ample lights in your HT room para naman nde ka mangapa sa dilim hehehe as long as the light doesnt hit/touch/reach your projection screen, display would still be fantastic

goodluck
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Aug 06, 2003 at 03:44 PM
There are two units of Epson S1 being used at Greenbelt 3 Food Court.

Screendoor effect, is quite noticeable when you're near the screen. But it performs well pag malayo ka, even in a well-lit environment.

Hmmm... I wonder if these LCD units will last... Around 12 - 14 hrs non-stop gamit nila...  :o

--

Kimera,

Any new tweaks that you made for your X1?
I'm kinda leaning towards it.  ;D Were youy able to get rid most of the rainbows?

Thanks!

Don
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kawboy on Aug 06, 2003 at 05:05 PM
just an additional info re: Epson's S1, a friend of mine is selling me these units...

2 years ang warranty nung unit and 6 months para sa bulb.  nakalagay sa specs na 2000 hrs ang lamp life e.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Aug 07, 2003 at 04:10 PM
just an additional info re: Epson's S1, a friend of mine is selling me these units...

2 years ang warranty nung unit and 6 months para sa bulb.  nakalagay sa specs na 2000 hrs ang lamp life e.

bro. how much?  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kawboy on Aug 07, 2003 at 05:03 PM
Don, sent you a pm.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: angeline444 on Aug 08, 2003 at 09:15 AM
I need a projector , my budget is between 80k to 130k, we'll be using it for presentations, and sometimes videos . pls help.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MS on Aug 08, 2003 at 10:18 AM
I need a projector , my budget is between 80k to 130k, we'll be using it for presentations, and sometimes videos . pls help.

Thanks.


Hanapin mo si Guru Dviant. Daming alam non pagdating sa mga HT. Maraming matutulong yon!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Compaq on Aug 08, 2003 at 10:45 AM
I need a projector , my budget is between 80k to 130k, we'll be using it for presentations, and sometimes videos . pls help.

Thanks.

Hi angeline444, Welcome to PinoyDVD.

You may also want to visit Sonny Tuazon of Home Theater (812-52-35). :)

Cheers!!!
Compaq

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: angeline444 on Aug 09, 2003 at 11:42 AM
thanks Compaq, what brands of projectors does mr. Tuazon carry?, do u know his e mail ad?

THanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Aug 10, 2003 at 02:35 AM
kawboy - Tnx!

Kimera and Dviant - How's the image quality, when you set the X1 to presentation mode? I'm planning to use it as a part time presentation projector (lit areas)...

Thanks in advance guys!

Don
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Aug 11, 2003 at 02:12 AM
hi angelinee 444,sent you a pm. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Aug 17, 2003 at 03:31 PM
hi all,
I would just like to share my experience on projectors based on my experience.
back projecting to a tracing paper improves the brightness of the projector, any light source touching aside from the projector touching the tracing paper must be blocked for optimal image quality.  my plan is to have a customized stained glass as my screen.  My infocus lp400 dlp projector's capacity is only 700 ansi lumens, it is bright enough even with the lights on but what we all want is the brightest image as possible, that's why I thought of this idea.
hope this helps  
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Aug 17, 2003 at 03:41 PM
Congratulations bigbird!!!  ;D

Since I'm kinda scared about the rainbow effects on X1...

I think I'm going to take the plunge with an Epson Powerlite S1(LCD) . I've seen it perform on TechTV - ScreenSavers ... Even with a TV studio environment, the video was still viewable (Pearl Harbor DVD)...

I checked out the specs, ok naman. 1200 ANSI Lumens, HDTV, 4:3/16:9... They have a fix for the screendoor effect, even though visible ok na daw.

BTW, it costs $999 (U.S.) ...

A local distributor (Audio Visual) sells it at 72k.

Guys what do you think?
just my 2 cents:
at your budget of $999, get yourself a dlp projector.
a dlp is a dlp and an lcd cannot be a dlp.  although lcd projectors have gone a long way in terms of picture quality, still it just comes close to a dlp performance.

hope this helps
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Aug 17, 2003 at 06:34 PM
Kimera and Dviant - How's the image quality, when you set the X1 to presentation mode? I'm planning to use it as a part time presentation projector (lit areas)...

Thanks in advance guys!

Don
Image quality is good but the resolution's not really for computer presentation. Don't get me wrong but the resolution of 800x600's isn't enough for regular use for Powerpoint or iPhoto slideshows. I dont notice the rainbow effect. If you're still unsure about this I suggest you ask for a demo from ATI before you buy from them.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DViant on Aug 17, 2003 at 06:42 PM
just my 2 cents:
at your budget of $999, get yourself a dlp projector.
a dlp is a dlp and an lcd cannot be a dlp.  although lcd projectors have gone a long way in terms of picture quality, still it just comes close to a dlp performance.

hope this helps
Not to mention that DLP technology is the basis for the D-Cinema standard. D-Cinema's the platform/standard that'll be used for Digital Projectors in the movie houses of the future. I've done my rounds auditioning LCD projectors a few months back but all of them have the screendoor effect that I find annoying. While none of the DLPs I have seen exhibits this defect. Just like everything else this is a matter of personal preference so choose on the basis of the info given to you and your usage. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Aug 18, 2003 at 12:34 AM
i see you also know about these stuff dviant ;)

As mass production  begins and demands for these products  goes up,  we can expect price drops and picture improvements over the succeeding years including movie house cinema changes.

My current project is to substitute metal halide bulbs with white halogen bulbs which are cheaper and will suit my personal home theater requirements for everyday use.  (right now i try to limit my usage since the bulb is expensive ;) )
so far,  my problem is finding a dummy load for the ballast, as the projector won't display an image when it does not see a bulb connected.  
I guess it will not be long when prices of metal halide bulbs also drop.  :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Aug 18, 2003 at 12:36 AM
can you guys tell me what "rainbow effect" are you experiencing? coz I never experience anything  odd when i use my projcector for watching movies or for pc projection.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Aug 18, 2003 at 09:49 AM
DLPs use a color wheel to create colors, which sometimes appear on the screen as a rainbow-like splash of light. You can induce this by shaking your head quickly, or moving your eye across the screen quickly -- which is not how one normally watches movies.

Some folks are more sensitive to rainbow effects than others. Fortunately I'm not one of those.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Aug 22, 2003 at 07:36 AM
kawboy - Tnx!

Kimera and Dviant - How's the image quality, when you set the X1 to presentation mode? I'm planning to use it as a part time presentation projector (lit areas)...

Thanks in advance guys!

Don

pre sorry ha, been busy lately kaya ngayon lang ako ulit nakapag PinoyDVD

anyway back to your queries, i believe ive mentioned here that ive set aside my X1 in favor of the SAnyo Z1, i just cant live with all the rainbows, ive done lots of tweaks and stuff, but i still see them, besides if i invite my friends to watch over, i wouldnt be happy if they get disapointed when they see the rainbow

with the Z1 though, havent heard any complaints, with the proper setup, screendoor is a non-issue and since its a short throw pj, works well with small rooms....screendoor is also evident on dlp projectors (yes even on X1)

if ur keen with the X1, it can double up as a presentation projector, just make sure you use presentation mode (duh ehehehe) so that it outputs all lumens and contrast which is needed on presentation

instead of the S1, i highly recommend the Z1, its 1/4HDTV and native 16x9

but if you need something for use in presentation, get a higher resolution pj

cheers!

 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Aug 27, 2003 at 11:32 AM
kimera, maybe we can schedule a sort of demo so you can show me the rainbow effect, coz i don't see them on my infocus lp400.  I will be glad to bring it.

Got back from HK yesterday and got myself an olympus eye trek fmd-200 (it's like a sony glasstron-lcd glasses) this thing rocks, it's like watching in a theater size screen.  although it's only 180,000 pixel, it sure is a different cinema experience.  I'm a bit hesitant on selling it or keeping it since it's kinda expensive just for my audio-video lust.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Aug 28, 2003 at 01:59 AM
im in the uk right :-(

btw, not all people are susceptible to rainbows, so if you cant see raibows on your lp400, you're one of the lucky then

congrats on your lp400

btw, those glasses are really cool
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Sep 01, 2003 at 04:56 PM
Thanks kimera! I decided to pull the trigger... I chose the Infocus X1 over the Epson S1. I just wish that I'm not rainbow sensitive.....  I also ordered an ND Filter just in case I need it. Before the month ends, I'll post my findings. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Sep 29, 2003 at 01:32 PM
Initial tests on X1.... I'm using a DIY screen (400 pesos only!!!) + svideo for my X1. Works great! I played black and white videos, xbox racing games, and subtitles. I only see the rainbows when I quickly dart my eyes sa screen (Black and white texts on screen + subtitles). The good thing about it is that it doesn't bother me when I see it.

I didn't see rainbows on my xbox games, but when I watched my cousin play a racing game medyo nahilo ako.... heheheh. I'm really happy with the purchase. I'll post a full review on the x1 thread, when I finish my setup.

For those who are looking for a projector, Infocus X1 is a great choice over the S1 specially if you don't detect rainbows. The image output  is still viewable even when the lights are on, the fan noise is not bad.

To kimera, dviant, bigbird, slowhand, and the rest... Thanks guys! This thread really helped me choose a projector.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Sep 29, 2003 at 02:00 PM
Congrats, don!

Good choice. Welcome to the ever-growing pj club.
Saw your gear over at the audio thread. Nice setup.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Sep 29, 2003 at 04:46 PM
Thanks slowhand!  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Oct 03, 2003 at 10:12 AM
don

congrats, and enjoy your system
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kawboy on Oct 03, 2003 at 11:10 AM
Wow, congrats Don, lupit na HT system mo bro.
 ;)
btw, passed by G/F Megamall last night Bldg. B, tapat ng SM, yung malapit sa Naturalizer, swatch... may demo sila ng InFocus, di ko lang alam kung hanggang kelan sila run.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Oct 06, 2003 at 12:46 AM
Hi don,where r u located.if it's possible maybe I can see a demo of your x1 in action and if you want you can demo my z1. I'm looking for a projector for my dad's home theater and I'm thinking of going dlp for a change.I'm actually choosing between the dlp nec ht1000 and the lcd panny ae300.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Oct 06, 2003 at 08:49 PM

I'm actually choosing between the dlp nec ht1000 and the lcd panny ae300.

Both are good. You can't go wrong with the NEC. Lots of awards, lots of happy users. Check out avsforum.com

Happy shopping!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Oct 08, 2003 at 11:22 AM
Hi don,where r u located.if it's possible maybe I can see a demo of your x1 in action and if you want you can demo my z1. I'm looking for a projector for my dad's home theater and I'm thinking of going dlp for a change.I'm actually choosing between the dlp nec ht1000 and the lcd panny ae300.

Bigbird, I'm from Laguna 40-50 minutes away from Makati. Sure no problem! Sent you a pm.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: don on Oct 08, 2003 at 11:22 AM
Thanks kawboy! ;) (ot: Btw, nakabili ka na ng B&Ws mo? )
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kawboy on Oct 08, 2003 at 11:32 AM
Don, di pa, para di OT: I'll just send you a pm  ;)

Bro Bigbird, as I've mentioned, ongoing pa rin demo ng x1 sa gamol. check it out if you work nearby.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Oct 09, 2003 at 07:18 PM
Hi don,where r u located.if it's possible maybe I can see a demo of your x1 in action and if you want you can demo my z1. I'm looking for a projector for my dad's home theater and I'm thinking of going dlp for a change.I'm actually choosing between the dlp nec ht1000 and the lcd panny ae300.

Big bird and don, maybe we can organize a projector comparison demo one of these days, I've always been anxious to see the difference between an lcd and dlp at a picture comparison point of view, and also a 5th generation dlp projector like the x1 against my 2nd generation dlp lp400.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Oct 11, 2003 at 10:44 AM
sure teban,I'm would be interested in something like that.ikaw na ang official organizer.just tell me when and where:)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: teban888 on Oct 12, 2003 at 03:12 PM
ok. let's wait for don's reply. confirmation na lang nya ang kulang :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Dec 12, 2003 at 08:40 AM
if ever the showdown pushes through,my new baby  the sanyo-plvz2 has arrived.it is a 1280x720 lcd projector.I'I havent done a side by side comparison with the z1 since my dvd-d cable hasn't arrived yet.but my initial impressions even with an ordinary dvd player is that it is much better than my z1but not by much. ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Dec 12, 2003 at 10:16 AM
Hello, Bigbird.

I am interested to see your Z2 in action.  Your PJ has been getting rave reviews on the web.  I can join you for a shoot out as I use an Epson TW100H.  I want to see them operating side by side and see the difference.

How much did you get it for?  Did you buy it here?  or from the states?

Do you have a dvd with DVI output so we can see this PJs in action in pure digital format?

Let ma know.

Rev
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: bigbird2323 on Dec 14, 2003 at 02:07 PM
revskie,don and teban.I'm looking forward to the shootout.Just tell me when and where  :).I just hope that someone with a DLP projector can join us.Since I havent seen a DLP in action besides the x1.

revskie:I'm still looking for a player with DVI output like the MOMITSU.In the mean time I'm in the process of building another HTPC so I can maximize the projector's capabilities.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: technogeek on Apr 12, 2004 at 09:14 AM
I want to try front projection too. Right now my candidates are the BenQ 6100 or Infocus X1 or possibly a new Infocus 4805.
I am starting out with an entry level unit and both the BenQ and Infocus X1 can be had for about $900 in the US.
I am coming from a RPTV 50"
Any advice from people out there?
Plan to order it abroad as prices here are almost double.
Thanks for whatever help you can give.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: barrid on Apr 12, 2004 at 09:31 AM
Looks like we have the same Projector  in mind ha, TG. But I'm more inclined in getting the Benq. But as I read the X1 thread. Medyo naguguluhan pa ako. Ano nga kaya ang mas maganda?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: madrigal on May 14, 2004 at 09:51 PM
Hi, Being the originator of this thread more than a year ago, I am very pleased with the projector I have bought.   Got the Sanyo with a DIY 120" screen.   As of now, it is still with the original bulb (my fingers crossed)   The picture quality still amazes me and all visitors and friends who see it.

I do check out the newer models out there from various manufacturers like in focus, toshiba, panasonic etc.... but still i am not impressed with it for the price they want for their unit.   spending more than P100,000 for an LCD or a dlp is such a waste INMO.

I do not see any screendoor effect or any rainbows people complain. Just paid around P85,000 for my sanyo.


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on May 18, 2004 at 08:39 AM
Congrats! Good to hear you're pleased with your pj.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: KamoteQue on Jun 11, 2004 at 04:12 AM
Just got my sony cineza VLP HS3.  I cant believe it....I waited this long for this. Now I know what Ive been missing.
Kamoteque
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kimera on Jul 15, 2004 at 05:39 AM
if ever the showdown pushes through,my new baby  the sanyo-plvz2 has arrived.it is a 1280x720 lcd projector.I'I havent done a side by side comparison with the z1 since my dvd-d cable hasn't arrived yet.but my initial impressions even with an ordinary dvd player is that it is much better than my z1but not by much. ;D

hello everyone, its been 15months since i got my Z1 and probably the same time since i last visited pinoydvd and a lot of thing has changed now forum-wise.....anyway, hows your Z2? did u say not much difference with the Z1?  have u tried feeding it with progressive signals, im sure that's where it will shine against the Z1...though i dont think shelling out another big sum of money for an upgrade is what i need now, im still in love with the Z1  ;D 

to all those who are into FP recently, congrats to all of you as its a BIG upgrade visually (literally)

cheers
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on May 17, 2005 at 02:23 PM
Anyone using eiki lc-sm3?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: phildg on May 24, 2005 at 08:52 AM
I'm also considering buying a projector. The Brain Company in MegaMall is selling a Toshiba TDP-S25 DLP for 65K. It has 1800 lumens and 2000:1 contrast. I haven't seen a demo but the specs seem good for the price. I read a post here praising the Panasonic AE700 so I checked it out at Listening Room. It goes for 95K and it is indeed amazing (though I don't know how good a judge I am since I'm just a newbie). I'd like to try out the Toshiba in a proper setting. Has anyone seen this projector in action?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nerveblocker on May 26, 2005 at 01:05 AM
Anyone seen the Epson EMPS3 in action? It has 1600 ANSI lumens and costs cheaper than other LCD projectors around P52-54K lang.  Uses 3 LCD technology and has a bulb life of 3000 hours in low brightness mode and 2000 hours in high brightness mode.  It also boasts of having the cheapest replacement bulb at P11+++ only.  Looks tempting....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on May 26, 2005 at 05:58 PM
a couple of things about pjs...

1. Specs, esp. lumens, don't mean much. There's no way to verify them. Anyway, more lumens is good for a business pj but not the main thing about an ht pj.
2. Estimated bulb life doesn't mean much too. Ultimate AV tested pjs and they reckon most pjs have a useful bulb life that's much shorter than the estimated bulb life. They measured 30% less brightness from the bulb after only 250 hours (that's right, two hundred fifty hours). That seems to echo my experience and observation. So, budget a couple of replacement bulbs with your purchase.

Happy shopping!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 02, 2005 at 11:54 AM
slowhand- that seems discouraging that the bulb's performance detriorates at around 250 lamp hours.  it would somehow become expensive stocking up replacement bulbs considering their cost.   :-\
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jun 02, 2005 at 12:53 PM
nirv - oo nga. don't take my word for it, visit this link to read the report: http://www.guidetohometheater.com/videoprojectors/1004benq/index3.html

It must be said that the low number of hours is a perfectionist's point of view. Yun nga lang, a projector kinda makes you a perfectionist because the image is so good.

You do get used to an image that is less bright compared with when the bulb was new, but it's noticeable.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: auspinoy on Jun 14, 2005 at 03:54 PM
I owned the infocus 4805, they are brilliant.  Paid A$3K (roughly P120K) for it late last year. PQ is awesome.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Jul 17, 2005 at 10:00 AM
a couple of things about pjs...
2. Estimated bulb life doesn't mean much too. Ultimate AV tested pjs and they reckon most pjs have a useful bulb life that's much shorter than the estimated bulb life. They measured 30% less brightness from the bulb after only 250 hours (that's right, two hundred fifty hours). That seems to echo my experience and observation. So, budget a couple of replacement bulbs with your purchase.

Happy shopping!

i read ultimate av's article and it appears their observation is not at all extensive and is actually limited to a small sample (2 pj's?)... hardly conclusive, isn't it? ive read before that projectors vary from unit to unit (even those of the same model) that one might extract varying performance from each (i.e. some observe vertical banding from the box, while others vb is next to non-existent). im also wondering why there are not enough posts in avs forums (pj forum) that highlight this "degrading performance"?

but then again, i also read about similar findings from a white paper i read a while back (can't find it anymore), but i doubt its objectivity as it was commissioned by a dlp pj manufacturer.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jul 17, 2005 at 11:45 AM
there are several threads about this on avs. many owners are reporting below 1000 hours life, with noticeable dropoff below that.

and you're right, v0elker, ...figures vary quite a bit from unit to unit. and, nope, no survey i've seen anywhere is conclusive.

btw i don't mean to be negative with these posts, in case that's how it appears... just trying to be helpful with a heads-up. bottom line is, just include a replacement lamp in your budget.

cheers.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Jul 17, 2005 at 02:11 PM
hi slowhand,

yeah, there seems to be quite a number of incidents of premature lamp failure as reported in avs... there are even those who are on their nth bulb in just a short time. locally, would you know if such incidents are covered by warranty? my assumption is it should be, as it is far short of the quoted figures by the manufacturer. ahhh, but logic rarely plays in such matters sometimes.

i understand that the lamp life quoted by the manufacturers are often too optomistic (as is the case with other specs) but less than 1000 hours is far too short. the operating environment and other factors may play a part in the lamp's life, but less than 1/3 of the quoted lamp life is just plain absurd. i sure hope those who suffered such incidents were properly compensated or furnished with replacement lamps.

sorry if my previous post came across as a negative reaction to your helpful post. indeed replacement lamps should be considered as part of the budget, specially if one intends to keep the pj for quite some time.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 18, 2005 at 11:44 AM
I'm also considering buying a projector. The Brain Company in MegaMall is selling a Toshiba TDP-S25 DLP for 65K. It has 1800 lumens and 2000:1 contrast. I haven't seen a demo but the specs seem good for the price. I read a post here praising the Panasonic AE700 so I checked it out at Listening Room. It goes for 95K and it is indeed amazing (though I don't know how good a judge I am since I'm just a newbie). I'd like to try out the Toshiba in a proper setting. Has anyone seen this projector in action?

I have seen both. I wasnt impressed with the S25 demo at the BRAIN. They used ordinary composite video connection with a room that wasnt very dark (Megamall). I saw a lot of lines and grains in the demo and they were using a demo disc already, not to mention that the projection distance was only about 4 feet away.

Take note that the S25 does not have our regular 3 rca component connection, nor a HDMI. You need some sort of VGA to component connector which is hard to find here.

My friend has the AE700 and its just superb, with breathtaking PQ. I would go for this if I can. I went way over budget with my house renovation so I have to shelf my desire for this projector for the meantime  ;D.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on Jul 18, 2005 at 05:11 PM
TRY MO OPTOMA H31 AT AAROUND 78K
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jul 24, 2005 at 12:59 PM
locally, would you know if such incidents are covered by warranty?

warranty only covers up to a few months on the lamp...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Jul 28, 2005 at 05:44 PM
lamp has a 3 mos. warranty if PJ is purchased bnew, but if u purchase tha lamp only (replacement) theres no warranty.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Jul 28, 2005 at 07:12 PM
thanks for the info on the lamp warranty

that's a bummer on the replacement lamp's warranty, specially with the high incidence of lamp failures that's being reported on avs and other forums... is this true for all dealers? even if you purchased the pj from them?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Jul 29, 2005 at 08:19 AM
AFAIK this is true for all dealers, yes , even if you purchased the pj from them, what you should do before getting ur replacement lamp is have ur dealer check ur pj if there are other problems.

Take for example the delta AV600 , some units (same model) are not compatible with the replacement lamp, and if not compatible will shorten the life or lamp will be busted immediately upon replacement, accdg to the supplier,  you also have to check/replace  the ballast if compatible with the replacement lamp. Diagnostic fee of more or less P 500 is worth it compared to the cost of the replacement lamp if you break it. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Jul 29, 2005 at 10:43 AM
thanks for the tip!

mukhang best nga if one brings along the pj to have it cleaned na rin... as i understand from the posts at avs, dust can accumulate inside the pj, specially around the lens.

also from what i read, the sanyo z3 offers a novel (not sure if it's foolproof) way of ridding the lens of some dust-you can unplug some seals and use an included blower to blow the dust off the lens. shiny!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 29, 2005 at 11:00 AM
TRY MO OPTOMA H31 AT AAROUND 78K

Where can I audition this PJ? Is it as good as the Panasonic AE700 or the Hitachi x100?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Jul 29, 2005 at 11:16 AM

I use Static cleaning cloths to clean the lens of my pj, it electrostatically grabs dust, dirt and hair, dunno if available locally, my mom sends me 1 box (20 sheets)  every quarter.  ;D

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Jul 29, 2005 at 12:37 PM
I use Static cleaning cloths to clean the lens of my pj, it electrostatically grabs dust, dirt and hair, dunno if available locally, my mom sends me 1 box (20 sheets)  every quarter.  ;D

hmmm, sounds good, which brand is it? i just use the ordinary microfibre cloths used for prescription glasses and lcd monitors. meron din ako nakita 3m brand dunno if its electrostatic though.

ang problem yung mga dust na gets inside the pj
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Jul 29, 2005 at 12:50 PM
hmmm, sounds good, which brand is it? i just use the ordinary microfibre cloths used for prescription glasses and lcd monitors. meron din ako nakita 3m brand dunno if its electrostatic though.

ang problem yung mga dust na gets inside the pj

not sure sa  brand, nakalagay sa box "Supreme Static Chiffons Secs" dun sa dust that gets inside the pj, u have to let the technician do the cleaning.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dracula on Aug 05, 2005 at 04:48 PM
thanks for the tip!

mukhang best nga if one brings along the pj to have it cleaned na rin... as i understand from the posts at avs, dust can accumulate inside the pj, specially around the lens.

also from what i read, the sanyo z3 offers a novel (not sure if it's foolproof) way of ridding the lens of some dust-you can unplug some seals and use an included blower to blow the dust off the lens. shiny!

How much is the z3? and the replacement lamp for it? does anybody have a contact number for a store which sells the z3....

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dracula on Aug 25, 2005 at 09:45 PM
Somebody is offering me a sanyo PLV-Z3 for 80k with a replacement lamp the unit is brand new only problem is sanyo doesn't offer a worldwide warranty so you need to take a bit of a risk.....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 05, 2005 at 11:30 AM
I suddenly have a budget for a projector, a gift of my balikbayan brod-in-law yesterday who pitied our huge, bulky RPTV in our tiny HT/Living room  ;D.

Question is: How often does Panasonic release their new models? My friends bought the AE100 & AE300 a few years back (2002) and now there is AE500 & 700 na in just a few years. I was thinking it would be a good idea to wait for the newer model which in my estimate, will be coming this Oct-Nov., 2005.

Anyone know when Panasonic releases their new models? Or maybe you have links to their upcoming models?

TIA  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Sep 05, 2005 at 12:59 PM
MAtZTER, check out avsforum, details on the new AE900 is starting to emerge... pati yung sa competition like the Sanyo Z4, Hitachi PJ-TX200 and yung sa epson, forgot the model...

more details should be available soon, this week kasi yung CEDIA, most of the new pj's will be shown there... everyone seems to be saying that the new models will be out by end of Sept
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Sep 06, 2005 at 10:36 AM
I suddenly have a budget for a projector, a gift of my balikbayan brod-in-law yesterday who pitied our huge, bulky RPTV in our tiny HT/Living room  ;D.

Question is: How often does Panasonic release their new models? My friends bought the AE100 & AE300 a few years back (2002) and now there is AE500 & 700 na in just a few years. I was thinking it would be a good idea to wait for the newer model which in my estimate, will be coming this Oct-Nov., 2005.

Anyone know when Panasonic releases their new models? Or maybe you have links to their upcoming models?

TIA  :)

That will depend on stocks of the AE700 that they have now, if i release na ung AE900 in other country if they still have the AE700 d nila muna ma re release ung AE900. right now madame pa cla stocks nung AE700 and meron pa cla parating.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: sillyputty on Sep 10, 2005 at 12:07 AM
v0elker..epson tw600 ata yung tinutukoy mo. =)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: v0elker on Sep 14, 2005 at 04:05 PM
sillyputty:  hehe di ko sure, dami nila ni-announce eh

some more info on the pj's that made it to cedia...
http://www.projectorcentral.com/cedia_2005.htm

although other brands were not shown at cedia, most of them timed their announcements to coincide with cedia.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 15, 2005 at 10:34 AM
Cool article! Sana the AE900 will have the same price as the AE700's introductory price.

Cant wait for it to be out in the market!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 16, 2005 at 11:16 AM
I just read the articles again, Grabe, the new LCD projectors have higher contrast ratio than our current plasma models!

The Z4 is at 7000:1 contrast! This seems interesting. Anybody knows who deals with Sanyo PJs here in Manila? (calling bro Voelker!  ;))
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 11, 2005 at 04:27 PM
Was inquiring awhile ago about the AE900. Still not here.

But the AE700 has dropped down to P85k!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 11, 2005 at 05:17 PM
Both Sanyo Z4 and Panasonic AE900 looks great ...

Sanyo Z4:
(http://www.grobi.tv/opencms/system/galleries/pics/produkte/z4_vorne3.gif)
Features:
HDTV 1.280 x 720 resolution
D5 LCD Generation EPSON
1000 ANSI Lumen
Contrast 7.000 : 1
Dynamic IRIS
LensShift
22 dB ECO Mode
12 BIT (68,7 Million Colors_
LCD Display Technology

http://www.grobi.tv/opencms/system/galleries/download/downloads/z4_shutter.MP4

Panasonic AE900:
Lumens (Brightness) 1100 
Native Resolution WXGA  1280 x 720 - With Smooth-Screen
Weight 7.9 lbs
Contrast Ratio 5500:1
Optical Zoom 2.0x
Lamp Life 2000 hours
Sound Output N/A
Keystone Correction Digital - V/H with new lens shift
PC inputs One
HDMI input One
Video inputs S-Video/ Composite / Component
High Definition capability 720p/1080i 
Programmable Remote??
Lens Shift

http://www.ritzav.com/Projectors/Panasonic/AE900U_pre_Final.pdf
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 12, 2005 at 10:13 AM
Anyone knows whats the smallest projector w/ the lens shift feature?

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 12, 2005 at 10:48 AM
Sanyo Z4 is out now in HK ...

http://www.avbuzz.com/audio-video/200510/ckl-sanyo-z4/index.htm

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 12, 2005 at 11:28 AM
Very nice site! But the Z4 will be over Php110k if you buy it from HK. Taxes & warranty not included. I hope there is a local distributor here.

I was told that the new model projectors are always priced like this upon initial release then slowly drops until the next model comes along.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dolpy Digital on Oct 12, 2005 at 12:09 PM
Hi Guys,

I just want to chime in my Projector experience here, Pany AE700. The reason I got this over the Sanyo Z3, aside from the "better" video quality is the better local pricing and service. At the time when I bought the Pany AE700 the Z3 was priced 20% more and there were no official Sanyo service centers.

The Pany AE700 has had several firmware updates from the initial release and these updates have to be done by your local Pany service centers. I have contacted Pany Phils. regarding these updates and that they will upgrade your unit to the most current firmware at the local service center. I havent upgraded, thinking that if it aint broke why mess it up, no problems with my Pany AE700 so far.

The specs of the forthcoming AE900 looks very promising, cant wait to see it.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 17, 2005 at 09:52 AM
The review between panny ae900 and sanyo z4 is out ...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/ae900_plvz4.htm

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 19, 2005 at 04:49 PM
Anyone knows whats the smallest projector w/ the lens shift feature?

Anyone knows?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: aikoshikk on Oct 25, 2005 at 02:20 AM
newbie here!

i'm canvassing for a 2000 Lumens Projector.  preferably 3LCD technology
hope you could help me make a decision as to which product and model to buy. 

Epson EMP X3: 2000 ansi
Panasonic LB10E:  2000 ansi (not sure if this is 3LCD)
Epson EMP 750 or 755:  2000 ansi (sa sing pa lang yata to, ala pa sa phils.)

which is better: epson, panasonic, sony or sanyo?  and which has the affordable lamp replacement?

also, other than da lite and vega projector screens, any other brands available in the phil. market?  i'm canvassing for a 7x7 or 8x8 tripod type.

thanks in advance... :)









Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Oct 25, 2005 at 04:09 PM
Sony has a new projector, the VPL CS20 , 3 LCD 2000 ANSI Lumens SVGA, price is at P 89,900
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Nov 16, 2005 at 01:50 PM

Anyone knows which shop sells Eiki projectors? Thanks.





Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ronjet on Nov 17, 2005 at 06:41 AM
for those who are looking for Panasonic ae700,price dropped at 83k. also available ae900 with 5500:1 contrast ratioat 130kSRP!  inquired at cosmotech. ;)



ano po current price ng optoma h31 and h27 ngayon?and sino po dealer nito? looking for budget projector.thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 17, 2005 at 09:55 AM
Optoma H27 was around 60+k during the Nov. HiFi show.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nosferatu on Nov 17, 2005 at 09:58 AM
for those who r interested, i still have 1 unit of the Panasonic AE300 on sale @ 50k only, I can also give u discounted price on the AE900. other PJ i have on sale is the Sony VW10HT @ 90K only. txt or call me for more details 0917.2596711

 :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 19, 2005 at 11:44 AM
Optoma H27 was around 60+k during the Nov. HiFi show.

sino po ang offical distributor ng Optoma d2 sa pinas?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dolpy Digital on Nov 20, 2005 at 10:42 PM

Optoma dealer?

Try AVLS, located at Farmer's Plaza, Cubao 3rd or 4th Level. Almost bought the Optoma H77 from them nearly two years ago.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Dec 05, 2005 at 10:01 AM
Im planning to buy Panasonic ae900.  Anyone interested w/ Sanyo Z1?

I can bring to Manila this Chinese New Year.


 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: degro01 on Dec 06, 2005 at 08:43 AM
I'll appreciate if anybody could give reviews or narrate personal experiences on an Optoma H30 or EP716.  These models are very affordable and has quite good reviews in some web forums.  Mr. Sonny T. is selling these models but I thought of finding some more opinions from pinoydvd.  I think the EP716 has 1800 lumens while H30 has 800 lumens only.  I can manage to keep my room dim if required.

Thanks mga Masters!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 09, 2005 at 09:49 AM
Panasonic AE900 is out! I got mine from Sonny Tuazon yesterday. He has a very irresistable promo for it. Call 8125235
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Dec 09, 2005 at 10:19 AM
Panasonic AE900 is out! I got mine from Sonny Tuazon yesterday. He has a very irresistable promo for it. Call 8125235

Hey pre congrats. Feedback naman sa performance at syempre post ka pics.

 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 09, 2005 at 11:35 AM
Panasonic AE900 is out! I got mine from Sonny Tuazon yesterday. He has a very irresistable promo for it. Call 8125235
Congrats sir matzter!

I also bought AE900, all is great! except for the remote control issue. will post pic soon.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 09, 2005 at 12:12 PM
Congrats sir matzter!

I also bought AE900, all is great! except for the remote control issue. will post pic soon.

Buti ka pa, your AE900 is already installed.  I got mine last night but had to attend a Xmas party afterwards, and now I am busy so I still cant install the unit. I was planning to be absent at d office but this was one of those very busy days  ;D

Cant wait to go home! hahah!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 10, 2005 at 09:22 AM
 ;DTorture yan!

But at least you already have yours sir, hindi mo na iisipin na baka maubusan ka ng stock. good luck sa installation and happy viewing.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: @nk71 on Jan 22, 2006 at 12:11 AM
Hi my HTroom is currently underconstruction, ...it's more than a month project...
Im thinking of buying a reliable DLP Projector for a room dimension (LWH) (18ft X 10ft X 12ft )
can any1 help me...my budget is around 50k down...

Im thinking of Projecting atleast 70" screen size

pls suggest a projector that can project a 16 x 9 aspect ratio and were replacement bulb is not a problem at hindi mabigat sa bulsa...
thanks in advance sa help nyo... :)

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Jan 22, 2006 at 03:12 PM
bro you can check the infocus x1 at the marketplace. its very good for its price. :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: @nk71 on Jan 23, 2006 at 07:36 PM
thanks for d info...any other brand aside from infocus x 1
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alexg on Feb 03, 2006 at 08:05 AM
thanks for d info...any other brand aside from infocus x 1

With a budget of 50K, the infocus x1 and x2 will be your best bet. I have the infocus x1 and the infocus 4805 (more expensive) and the picture quality from both is great!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: mheloy on Feb 03, 2006 at 11:47 AM
With a budget of 50K, the infocus x1 and x2 will be your best bet. I have the infocus x1 and the infocus 4805 (more expensive) and the picture quality from both is great!

Sir saan mo nabili yung infocus 4805? how much?

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: @nk71 on Feb 06, 2006 at 07:43 PM
With a budget of 50K, the infocus x1 and x2 will be your best bet. I have the infocus x1 and the infocus 4805 (more expensive) and the picture quality from both is great!

how's d color and bitrate of Infocus x 1 if im gonna project lets say 65"- 70" screen
thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dracula on Feb 22, 2006 at 10:54 AM
I think the Benq 2140 in the other thread would fit
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 23, 2006 at 06:22 PM
guys, tulong naman... i want to set-up a projector in my room eh. i know a lot about electronics na but not much about projectors. they were so expensive kasi so i never really paid it much attention. now that it's affordable na, i'm planning to buy one for my room. may pc din ako na medyo high-end w/ hd ready na vidcard for hd gaming kaya i really want a good projector...

eto choices ko... help me pick one out.

infocus x3
optoma h27
optoma dv10
panny pt900
optoma h31
optoma 716p
emp tw20


also, if you guys have any suggestions on where i can buy them, that'd be great. thanks.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Jul 23, 2006 at 06:49 PM
go for panny or H31.
But H31 is for U.S. market PJ.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: purple_jedi on Jul 23, 2006 at 07:05 PM
correct me if i'm wrong...but i think the panny nor the epson are dlps. i'd go for the optoma. the model would depend on your budget though.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dracula on Jul 23, 2006 at 07:34 PM
If strictly DLP.....I'd go for the Optoma H31 ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 23, 2006 at 07:38 PM
correct me if i'm wrong...but i think the panny nor the epson are dlps. i'd go for the optoma. the model would depend on your budget though.

oops...

anyway, is there really any visible difference between 480p and 720p ba?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Munskie on Jul 23, 2006 at 08:27 PM
oops...

anyway, is there really any visible difference between 480p and 720p ba?
yes bro, if budget permits, go for native 720p/1080i projectors, HD  na kasi yun.  you also mentioned that you have a high end htpc, so a higher resolution PJ would be a good match.

i suggest din not to limit yourself with DLPs.  LCD PJs like panny ae900 is a "bang for the buck"  purchase  (love my own, hehehe).  AV shops can accomodate you for an audition, so you can choose wisely sir.... ;D ;D


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ALICE GO on Jul 23, 2006 at 10:13 PM
SIR: I have an INFOCUS X1 for sale. This is the machine that you qualifiably need. The X1 is THE breakthrough projector, it is called an entry-level DLP projector but it broke down the prohibitive price barrier set by other exploitative projector manufacturers. The superbiest beauty of the X1 is its high contrast and the embedded presence of the FAROUDJA deinterlacer-scaler chip. The Faroudja chip spells the quantum leap diff'rence between a quality film-cinema projector and a so-so, routine multi-media projectors that anyone could stumble upon even on outlets like Electroworld. Subsequent, modified models of the X1 that came after like the X1a, the X2, and the X3 has been stripped of the mighty Faroudja chip because it was very expensive. My unit has consumed only less than 150 hours of its 4,000 hours lamp lifetime, I'm letting it go with a heavy heart because I need the money and its my back-up unit for my projector rental part-time business. Hence I owned two X1s and I'm selling this good as brand new back-up unit. Please take a keen consideration of the Infocus, I am a long-time projector user, and have started with a Sony 1270 CRT, then a Starlight 500 DLP and then have held on to my Infocus X1 to this day.  The GIANT SCREEN PROJECTION experience is a true magic, you're bound - I promised - to have your whole movie-watching horizon revalidated and expanded to cosmic proportion.  You'll never go back again to paltry TVs and could even certifiably laugh with derision over those ultra-expensive plasmas and LCD TVs. The price is only P48,000, which includes a 90-inch Kodak tripod screen. I'm inviting you to evaluate this unit right in my own home, amidst a 200-meter meeting hall, with utmost privacy and liberty.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 23, 2006 at 10:28 PM
SIR: I have an INFOCUS X1 for sale. This is the machine that you qualifiably need. The X1 is THE breakthrough projector, it is called an entry-level DLP projector but it broke down the prohibitive price barrier set by other exploitative projector manufacturers. The superbiest beauty of the X1 is its high contrast and the embedded presence of the FAROUDJA deinterlacer-scaler chip. The Faroudja chip spells the quantum leap diff'rence between a quality film-cinema projector and a so-so, routine multi-media projectors that anyone could stumble upon even on outlets like Electroworld. Subsequent, modified models of the X1 that came after like the X1a, the X2, and the X3 has been stripped of the mighty Faroudja chip because it was very expensive. My unit has consumed only less than 150 hours of its 4,000 hours lamp lifetime, I'm letting it go with a heavy heart because I need the money and its my back-up unit for my projector rental part-time business. Hence I owned two X1s and I'm selling this good as brand new back-up unit. Please take a keen consideration of the Infocus, I am a long-time projector user, and have started with a Sony 1270 CRT, then a Starlight 500 DLP and then have held on to my Infocus X1 to this day.  The GIANT SCREEN PROJECTION experience is a true magic, you're bound - I promised - to have your whole movie-watching horizon revalidated and expanded to cosmic proportion.  You'll never go back again to paltry TVs and could even certifiably laugh with derision over those ultra-expensive plasmas and LCD TVs. The price is only P48,000, which includes a 90-inch Kodak tripod screen. I'm inviting you to evaluate this unit right in my own home, amidst a 200-meter meeting hall, with utmost privacy and liberty.

i'd really rather go with a brand new and newer model... thanks for the offer though.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 24, 2006 at 11:37 AM
The problem with optoma is its limited zoom range, around 1.2x, this limits your flexibility in mounting the projector. Optoma are also known for very limited lamp life. the Panny 900 on the other hand cost just 85000 pesos and when properly set will probably make DLP's costing 2X heading for the hills.
The ptae900 at 720p and the Sony Ruby(1080p) are groundbreaking PJ's that made Good PQ available for the middle class.(Sanyo Z4, Mitsubishi hc3000 and the Hitachi 200 are also worth looking at). For me Infocus projectors are good also but their prices are not that attactive along with Optoma.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: slowhand on Jul 24, 2006 at 12:20 PM
dobermaxx, in your shoes I would wait just a bit. Lots of new pjs coming out later this year. Possible Panny 1080p at $3500 if rumors are to be believed. Even if you don't go for the new ones, they would push down the prices of existing ones.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 24, 2006 at 03:50 PM
i agree completely with slowhand. i myself will unload my Panny if there is an affordable 1080p Pj in the near future as i am set for 1080p with my AVM50 Pre/processor
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 24, 2006 at 04:18 PM
i passed by home theater today eh, i have the my list narrowed down to the optoma h27 and panny 900u. listening room is giving me the panny 900u for only 78k lang e, so its very tempting. on the other hand the h27 also has a very good pic quality for less than 60k.

may ibababa pa ba yung price ng panny after the 1080p pj come out? last time kasi, the price of the panny 700
didn't go down much after the 900 was released.

i'll look around some more before deciding.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: atomicat10 on Jul 24, 2006 at 04:57 PM
i agree completely with slowhand. i myself will unload my Panny if there is an affordable 1080p Pj in the near future as i am set for 1080p with my AVM50 Pre/processor

Sa mga mag-uunload (in the future ;)) baka kaya ko saluhin yan just PM me!

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 24, 2006 at 06:23 PM

optoma h27 is a SD projetor with the matterhorn DLP chip with a pixel count of around (854x480)300k for 60T

panny900 is a HD PJ with around(1280x720) 900k pixels at 78T

Its your choice
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 24, 2006 at 09:35 PM
hirap naman mag-decide... :-\

ok here's another question... say i do purchase a panny 900 which is 720p, is there a special kind of dvd player i should be using to get the best pic quality?




Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Munskie on Jul 24, 2006 at 09:49 PM
bro, i agree with sir alvin, better choice ang panny ae900 than the optoma h27, more kung di issue budget sayo.  future proof kana kasi High Definition na sya, unlike optoma h27.  I was also in the same predicament before, no contest, I have the panny now.

A good DVD player to match with panny must be one with upscaling feature (720/1080i) and with hdmi/dvi outputs.  Madami brands dyan (like samsung, toshiba, denon, pioneer etc), and would depend on your preferance, taste and budget.  Try to research the net for reviews.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 24, 2006 at 09:59 PM
dobermaxx, in your shoes I would wait just a bit. Lots of new pjs coming out later this year. Possible Panny 1080p at $3500 if rumors are to be believed. Even if you don't go for the new ones, they would push down the prices of existing ones.

the longest i can wait is a month. i was supposed to buy kasi last december pa but i chose to wait for the prices to go down. but if i can't find a good deal, i won't have a choice...

most of the stores i went to don't accept credit cards so hirap maghanap. so far listening room lang yung store na nagustuhan ko yung price and tumatanggap ng card payments.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 24, 2006 at 10:18 PM
bro, i agree with sir alvin, better choice ang panny ae900 than the optoma h27, more kung di issue budget sayo.  future proof kana kasi High Definition na sya, unlike optoma h27.  I was also in the same predicament before, no contest, I have the panny now.

dude, san ka bumili?

i can afford the panny naman e. pero ang laki ng difference sa price between the two. i just think that maybe the money i save if i buy the h27 can go into buying a nice dvd player and some type of sound system. maybe a good screen.

Quote
A good DVD player to match with panny must be one with upscaling feature (720/1080i) and with hdmi/dvi outputs.  Madami brands dyan (like samsung, toshiba, denon, pioneer etc), and would depend on your preferance, taste and budget.  Try to research the net for reviews.


how much do these players go for?

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Munskie on Jul 24, 2006 at 10:38 PM
got my panny at SGT Home Theater......bro yeah laki difference coz SD lang yun optoma but tell you, dika magsisisi sa panny, you can look up the Panny ae900 thread, lots of satisfied owners there.  Better look at this link Panny ae900 review(click) (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/PanasonicPTAE900UProjectorReview1.php),  scored 4.75 out of 5 in audioholics.com review.

Bro, regarding the upscaling dvd players w/ hdmi, iba iba prices nyan depending on the specs you want.  you can check out the sources thread.  prices start at around 7-8k...thats entry level for upscaling dvd players with hdmi.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jul 24, 2006 at 10:42 PM
got my panny at SGT Home Theater......bro yeah laki difference coz SD lang yun optoma but tell you, dika magsisisi sa panny, you can look up the Panny ae900 thread, lots of satisfied owners there.  Better look at this link Panny ae900 review(click) (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/PanasonicPTAE900UProjectorReview1.php),  scored 4.75 out of 5 in audioholics.com review.

Bro, regarding the upscaling dvd players w/ hdmi, iba iba prices nyan depending on the specs you want.  you can check out the sources thread.  prices start at around 7-8k...thats entry level for upscaling dvd players with hdmi.  :)

how much did you get it for? i stopped by there today eh, pero wala si sir tuazon. did he give you a good deal? may freebies ba? ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 25, 2006 at 08:29 AM
The panasonic 900 has a good deinterlacer/scaler but not spectacular but at par with DVD players with 720p capability. The key here is to let your ordinary DVD player with component jacks output 480i resolution. The panny will then use this (nearly) unprocessed signal and do its own magic.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: simonzaide on May 12, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Hi Guys,

Im looking for a budget (medyo reasonable priced projector) for my bedroom set up.

Can you suggest brands/models that i should check out also it would be helpfull to post the pricing as well

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Aug 27, 2008 at 04:18 PM
Im coming to Manila this weekend and I can bring my mint condition Sanyo PLV-Z3. I already upgraded to PLV-Z5 so this unit is already a spare. Anyone interested, pls send me a PM and I can send further details.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/sanyo_plv-z3.htm

Thanks.








Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Nov 20, 2008 at 02:55 PM
Im coming to Manila this weekend and I can bring my mint condition Sanyo PLV-Z3. I already upgraded to PLV-Z5 so this unit is already a spare. Anyone interested, pls send me a PM and I can send further details.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/sanyo_plv-z3.htm

Thanks.

Ive got a colleague coming back to manila next week and he can bring this along.  Bnew condition complete w/ box, around 400hrs usage. I can include 13m HDMI cable.

SANYO PLV-Z3
http://www.projectorcentral.com/sanyo_plv-z3.htm
(http://www.projectorcentral.com/img.cfm?pid=2652&w=125)

Pls PM me your offer price and contact number. Thanks.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: makel on Nov 25, 2008 at 07:34 PM
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for inquiry, please pm or contact

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Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Nov 26, 2008 at 11:03 AM
You could try Benq w100 :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: HaRViz on Dec 15, 2008 at 08:25 AM
We are looking for the cheapest HT Projector.
Please give me recommendations.

My friend is buying within the week.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Dec 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM
LOOK for a Panasonic PTAX200 LCD projector - a certified bestseller all over the world for HT videophiles. It sells for around P48,000 plus or minus from several specialty A/V shops like SGT Home Theater, Image Video and Theaterworks.

If you wanted better, more reliable and nervous-free technical craftsmanship your choice is a DLP beamer like the Infocus Screenplay 4805, Optoma HD65, Optoma HD73, Mitsubishi HC1100 & HC1500 & HC1600. all of these models could be obtained by not more than P70,000 - for now, in the most conservative, optimistic estimate.

If you wanted a higher-end Darkchip 3 DLP beamer with at least 4,000 Contrast and gorgeous black level - I suggests Mitsubishi's HC3100, it sells for around P80,000 or lower by now. I could direct you to a dealer which sells them up at 25 to 30% lower than established stores. Or go for an Infocus IN78, the best Darkchip 3 720p DLP that Infocus has managed to released before it went to fullscale 1080p production. But its retail might be slightly higher than the HC3100.

The essential thing is to experience giant screen projection - it'll proved to be a magical experience, it'll forever alter your visual perception. Its actually one of Home Theater concept's best-kept secret!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:12 PM
We are looking for the cheapest HT Projector.
Please give me recommendations.

My friend is buying within the week.

if you are saying cheapest, what you mean is cheapest hd, 16:9 with hdmi projector? if so, then you can have three chioices.

panasonic ax200 - 48-50k
optoma hd65      - 48k
benq w500         - 45k

panny and benq are 3lcd projectors while the optoma is a dlp projector, all are 720p native pjs but are all capable of displaying 1080p image, all are in 16:9 widescreen format already, optoma and benq has 1 hdmi input, while panny has 2 inputs. both panny and benq have lens shift for easier placement, optoma does not have lens shift. benq has the hqv reon chip, which can upscale all your sddvd to near hd quality.

now of course there are other 720p pjs out there, but as @taurus cute said, it will be a bit pricey already.

now if you just want a projector even if its 4:3 aspect ratio (tv ratio), there are a lot of good data projector out there that has component inputs that goes for as low as 30k.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:19 PM
go for the benqw500 or a panasonic both have good reviews and performs well for its price
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:26 PM
We are looking for the cheapest HT Projector.
Please give me recommendations.

My friend is buying within the week.

Sorry bro yung cheapest screen lang meron ako ;) ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Sorry bro yung cheapest screen lang meron ako ;) ;D

i have to agree with sir ricky he is selling the cheapest motorized screen in the market :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:29 PM
i have to agree with sir ricky he is selling the cheapest motorized screen in the market :)

Thanks bro :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Sorry bro yung cheapest screen lang meron ako ;) ;D

+1 brader ricky!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Dec 15, 2008 at 02:40 PM
+1 brader ricky!

Thanks syo kasi maganda kang BUWENA MANO followed closely by Nols(huddaf) ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 15, 2008 at 08:52 PM
Thanks syo kasi maganda kang BUWENA MANO followed closely by Nols(huddaf) ;D ;) ;D

Ayun o! Special Mention! Salamat din sir!  ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 15, 2008 at 09:21 PM
What about bulbs?  Where are they sourced and how cheap are they for the brands mentioned above?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 15, 2008 at 09:53 PM
What about bulbs?  Where are they sourced and how cheap are they for the brands mentioned above?

the distirbutors of these pjs can provide the replacement bulbs, bulbs usually cost 15-20k pesos, but you can also buy from the u.s. which are usually cheaper there.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: essence on Dec 15, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Sorry bro yung cheapest screen lang meron ako ;) ;D

Sir, pwede pa PM price ng motorised screen.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 16, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Sir, pwede pa PM price ng motorised screen.

nasa marketplace. 8k. pa reserve ka na, baka maubos.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 16, 2008 at 09:08 AM
Sulit na yun sa 8k. Kunin mo na ser, last na yata... Nga lang di kasya sa kotse yun ha hehehe  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kennji on Dec 16, 2008 at 02:06 PM
Hi!

Maybe someone can help me, I'm looking for benq w500, panasonic ax200, or optoma hd65 projector. Most of the local a/v stores that I've checked don't have stocks of these models. Maybe someone from pinoydvd knows where I can get one. Thanks.

br,
kenn
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 16, 2008 at 02:29 PM
i got my benq from avls in libis, qc. look for marc bajita, he is avintegrator here in pdvd but seldoms go online now. office number is 9950879, 9110904  & 9110947. look for him, he handles benq w500 specifically.

for optoma, you can try hi-fi lounge in festival mall, alabang. i ask it there a few months ago, but they have to order it pa. look for tito villaflores, phone is 8428133.

for ax200, try cosmotech, i dont have details, but they have branches in festival mall, alabang and king's court, makati.

its hard to find this models now because most companies are about to launch their new models.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 16, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Naku, medyo mahirap na humanap ng AX200, pati supplier wala na. The last one i heard sa cosmotech meron pa isa but that was a month ago. Pero try mo na rin. Contacts available sa net.

Benq, meron din yata sa theaterworks at SnS, kaso medyo mahal pa sya ngayon.  ;D

Good Luck Bro! Those are really good PJs.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: essence on Dec 16, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Sorry bro yung cheapest screen lang meron ako ;) ;D

Sir YGPM
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: HaRViz on Dec 17, 2008 at 01:56 PM
thanks sa mga reply guys.

sayang nga lang at hindi na available kay sir jeff yung benq w500.
but we are still hoping na may dadating. we are still scouting.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 17, 2008 at 02:08 PM
thanks sa mga reply guys.

sayang nga lang at hindi na available kay sir jeff yung benq w500.
but we are still hoping na may dadating. we are still scouting.

better grab one when you see it, pati na yung ax200, these projectors are already in their end of life period. new models are coming out. sisi nga ako hindi ko kinuha nung kay jeff. pero ganun talaga. kahit mas mahal, basta masaya. ang mahirap pag wala na.

sabagay, pag wala na, eh di yung mga bagong modelo!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: milken on Dec 17, 2008 at 03:10 PM
Since meron na recommendation for cheapest 720p PJ... how about the cheapest/best-bang-for-the-buck na 1080p projector?  I think mas ma-appreciate yung additional detail ng 1080p at a very large screen compared to 50" LCD or plasma.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 17, 2008 at 03:21 PM
Since meron na recommendation for cheapest 720p PJ... how about the cheapest/best-bang-for-the-buck na 1080p projector?  I think mas ma-appreciate yung additional detail ng 1080p at a very large screen compared to 50" LCD or plasma.  ;D

the only home theatre projector that we cater for benq is the w100 and w500. we don't have any models for the w5000 and w20000. What i have for 1080 home theatre is viewsonic Pro8100, @ 113,000. The Epson EMP-TW700 @ 97,900, Benq PE7700 @ 97,000

got this post from the old benq w500 thread, i got my benq from avls where @avintegrator works. they are the official distributor of epson and viewsonic data and ht pjs and benq ht pjs in the philippines. but the post was last feb 2008 pa. dont know if the price still holds. but knowing prices of these products are going down than up, its just a question of kung may stocks pa since this will now be the old models as well.

i think the epson would be the bang for the buck here, since they are the ones that invented 3lcd technology that the other companies are using now. @98K. mura ito compared with panny ae2000 @125k and the new ae3000 @165K pricing.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Dec 17, 2008 at 04:20 PM
SELLERS like AVLS are the sort of inflexible businesses na hindi mo kailanman magugulangan sa presyo. You can't TRULY take a certified good deal from AVLS, they'd sticked to the manufacturer's MSRP and would never pull down their pricing realistically. Not in a hundred years. Katulad na katulad yan ng ATI, yung dating dealer ng Infocus, sobrang laki pag nagpatubo, palibhasa they monolithically control the brand's market. AVLS controls the Epson projector line, thats why they don't care a whet if you buy or not because the downline of Epson sellers are all locked in to sourced their units from AVLS itself.

Take the Epson TW700. I meant to take this unit last January 2008. I was quoted a price of P95,000. When I came back three days later to negotiate for discounting, AVLS is asking P98,000+ for the thing. Clarifying why the topsy-turvy, mixed-up pricing, AVLS would not explained, simply concluding that thats their final price. When I insists on talking to their Chinese boss, they said he's in Hongkong. 12 months later AVLS remains so stubborned in sticking P97,000+ for the TW700 when its already obsolete and could not have, by any qualifiable indication, ever became an HT bestseller. Why not give a price break for the masses, why be so stubborned adhering to the former, high-price-policy business scheme which is now hopelessly outmoded and piles up dead capital?

The fact is companies like AVLS and ATI and even JVC's Trademark (for the JVC RS1 LCOS projectors) only came to realized very LATELY that there's a (niched) market to be mined for Home Theater-grade projectors. I'd say even a mere 12 months ago they couldn't get it into their heads that there's such a segment awaiting to be served, they're just out of touch. But the problem is that they hound that specialized but rising market with the business projector marketing scheme - a poor, shortsighted ethics.

I'm not playing authority here but if I had to choose amongst 720p beamers, I won't ever picked up a BenQ. The W500 is the weakest performing unit evaluated by the presentation authorities, even if its helped by the HQV Reon video chip, it remains just an average performing unit with no excelling qualities to distinguished it among its peers.

(Now a side note: At last November's Vinyl LP-centric Hi-Fi Show, AVLS's Chinese proprietor boasted that he spent a whooping P2 million for his vinyl gears & setup. No wonder he's so tightfisted with his pricing policy, it may be because he's so into his hobby - one abandoned by the consumers 20 years ago.)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 17, 2008 at 04:27 PM
the tw700 which i was also interested in before is only 720p. at that price, which is almost the same from their official retailer in cubao (quoted me for 99k), is definitely depressing.

also, the tw700 was released last 2006 pa.

http://www.epson.com.ph/products/projectors/EPSON_EMP-TW700.shtml (http://www.epson.com.ph/products/projectors/EPSON_EMP-TW700.shtml)

in the end, i still think people who plan to build a home theatre should only allot 50 to 60k max for a projector. no matter how big the screen size is, i believe the real beauty of looking at images still fall within it's contrast output and black levels which can only be achieved by pj's costing more than 200k like the jvc dila.

buy a decent 720p pj, and invest more on a big-sized full hd plasma or lcd which can be viewed in most lighting conditions. at the end of the day, watching movies or playing games is a personal affair and most often than not, i believe i would not frequently use such a big screen as my display if i was the only one in the room.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 17, 2008 at 06:22 PM
the tw700 which i was also interested in before is only 720p. at that price, which is almost the same from their official retailer in cubao (quoted me for 99k), is definitely depressing.

also, the tw700 was released last 2006 pa.

http://www.epson.com.ph/products/projectors/EPSON_EMP-TW700.shtml (http://www.epson.com.ph/products/projectors/EPSON_EMP-TW700.shtml)

in the end, i still think people who plan to build a home theatre should only allot 50 to 60k max for a projector. no matter how big the screen size is, i believe the real beauty of looking at images still fall within it's contrast output and black levels which can only be achieved by pj's costing more than 200k like the jvc dila.

buy a decent 720p pj, and invest more on a big-sized full hd plasma or lcd which can be viewed in most lighting conditions. at the end of the day, watching movies or playing games is a personal affair and most often than not, i believe i would not frequently use such a big screen as my display if i was the only one in the room.

stand corrected sir pig_freak, i just read the post as is, and thought the epson was indeed a 1080p pj, if it is a 720p, mahal nga!  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 17, 2008 at 07:50 PM
SELLERS like AVLS are the sort of inflexible businesses na hindi mo kailanman magugulangan sa presyo. You can't TRULY take a certified good deal from AVLS, they'd sticked to the manufacturer's MSRP and would never pull down their pricing realistically. Not in a hundred years. Katulad na katulad yan ng ATI, yung dating dealer ng Infocus, sobrang laki pag nagpatubo, palibhasa they monolithically control the brand's market. AVLS controls the Epson projector line, thats why they don't care a whet if you buy or not because the downline of Epson sellers are all locked in to sourced their units from AVLS itself.

Take the Epson TW700. I meant to take this unit last January 2008. I was quoted a price of P95,000. When I came back three days later to negotiate for discounting, AVLS is asking P98,000+ for the thing. Clarifying why the topsy-turvy, mixed-up pricing, AVLS would not explained, simply concluding that thats their final price. When I insists on talking to their Chinese boss, they said he's in Hongkong. 12 months later AVLS remains so stubborned in sticking P97,000+ for the TW700 when its already obsolete and could not have, by any qualifiable indication, ever became an HT bestseller. Why not give a price break for the masses, why be so stubborned adhering to the former, high-price-policy business scheme which is now hopelessly outmoded and piles up dead capital?

i certainly agree with you in this, they were pretty inflexible when i bought my benq pj from them too, but in the end from an asking price of 55k it went down to 52k then finally to 45k with two years warranty and 6 months for the bulb . i also have no choice but to buy it from them since all resellers here were out of stock when i was trying to purchase it.   ;D

I'm not playing authority here but if I had to choose amongst 720p beamers, I won't ever picked up a BenQ. The W500 is the weakest performing unit evaluated by the presentation authorities, even if its helped by the HQV Reon video chip, it remains just an average performing unit with no excelling qualities to distinguished it among its peers.

i chose the benq over the ax200 because there are growing issues in avs forum regarding the degradation of the unit's polarizer (whatever that is) after 18 months of use. apparently because of this unit's vaunted high lumen output, it fries the said polarizer hence rendering the edges of an image with blue tint, this issue really made me think for a long time but in the end i chose the benq. with regards to optoma, really like this dlp pj, and the price was and still is very reasonable, problem is, i will have problems in placement. i really needed the lens shift of the ax200 or w500.

only time will tell if i made the right decision, and since i am not a very discerning video buff. w500 is just right for me and my family.  ;D

(Now a side note: At last November's Vinyl LP-centric Hi-Fi Show, AVLS's Chinese proprietor boasted that he spent a whooping P2 million for his vinyl gears & setup. No wonder he's so tightfisted with his pricing policy, it may be because he's so into his hobby - one abandoned by the consumers 20 years ago.)

i believe you sir!  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: E-reply on Dec 19, 2008 at 11:21 AM
On sale guys, only a few units available

1 unit Optoma HD65 HD-ready DLP at cash P70K.
2 units Optoma HD803 Full HD DLP at cash P95K


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Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: E-reply on Dec 19, 2008 at 11:22 AM
On sale guys, only a few units available

1 unit Optoma HD65 HD-ready DLP at cash P70K.
2 units Optoma HD803 Full HD DLP at cash P95K


Visit Sights and Sounds 4th level Shangri-La Plaza. Call 634-1789 to 90. Mobile 0917-5413491
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 19, 2008 at 04:22 PM
Ayan na o. kuha kuha na! ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 19, 2008 at 04:25 PM
o ayan na sir ok na yan bili ka na unless gusto mo yung cdr king projector less than 20k.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Dec 19, 2008 at 04:39 PM
ITO pa, more selections to closely consider:

1. OPTOMA HD27 DLP for P41,000
2. PANASONIC AE900U LCD for P43,000

Both units brand new. And its not being sold by me but could be negotiated with PETER FALSIS on his A/V shop PRO LASER on Quezon Avenue. You may contact this kindly fellow at #0917-516-5285.

If I had a deeper wallet I'd grab the AE900u, this is a real bargain, a chance you can't have more frequently.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 19, 2008 at 04:58 PM
ITO pa, more selections to closely consider:

1. OPTOMA HD27 DLP for P41,000
2. PANASONIC AE900U LCD for P43,000

Both units brand new. And its not being sold by me but could be negotiated with PETER FALSIS on his A/V shop PRO LASER on Quezon Avenue. You may contact this kindly fellow at #0917-516-5285.

If I had a deeper wallet I'd grab the AE900u, this is a real bargain, a chance you can't have more frequently.

great help for people who are desperate to set up their big screens for the holiday season. ae900 is only 720p just in case curious yung iba.

mahal pala ng optoma! mag 50pv80 na lang.  ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 20, 2008 at 12:18 AM
ITO pa, more selections to closely consider:

1. OPTOMA HD27 DLP for P41,000
2. PANASONIC AE900U LCD for P43,000

Both units brand new. And its not being sold by me but could be negotiated with PETER FALSIS on his A/V shop PRO LASER on Quezon Avenue. You may contact this kindly fellow at #0917-516-5285.

If I had a deeper wallet I'd grab the AE900u, this is a real bargain, a chance you can't have more frequently.

wow, very good price for the panny ae900.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 20, 2008 at 01:48 AM
great help for people who are desperate to set up their big screens for the holiday season. ae900 is only 720p just in case curious yung iba.

mahal pala ng optoma! mag 50pv80 na lang.  ;)

Dude, malaki parin difference ng Optoma at ng 50PV80. You're projector can at least project 80" of image. Yun pa lang sulit na. :o
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: milken on Dec 20, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Aside from size, which one has better picture quality (contrast, colors, deep black) at same price---Optoma HD803 Full HD DLP vs. Panasonic 50PV80?  ???
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:02 AM
YOU'RE comparing a GIANT SCREEN PROJECTION from that of a puny 50-inch plasma? Bwahahaha! Is a gnat a more imposing king than a hipoppotamus? Will you dwell in a scrimping cardboard balikbayan box than a 2,000 square feet mansion? Please, leave the funny lines to the comedians - but if you do have a personal-witness acquaintance with front projectors - the certified Home Theater type - your perception would be forever altered. You would even begin to hesitate to to give your P80- to P90,000+ expendable money to Pioneer or Panasonic, because what they're asking you is SO MUCH money for SO LITTLE real estate.

Now if anyone here wants to immersed himself completely in a true Home Cinema, the Optoma HD803 can be had for even lower - considerably lower - than what's being asked here by S & S. But whether you take it from S & S or elsewhere, the essential thing is to bring home one. When George Star Wars Lucas developed the idea of "home theater" in the late 1970s - ninety percent of what he advocated is towards having a stereo or 2.1 or 5.1 soundstage. Its audio-centric, and thats because Lucas could not even envisioned that early that a home theater front projector could even be brought and enjoyed right in our own sala, bedroom, garage, lawn, swimming pool, carpark, and rooftop. But its now 2008, podiyosporsanto, at nagtitiis ka pa rin sa 50-inch plasma? Put that money to better use, start to experience the magic......
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM
there are a lot of variables to look at.

50pv80 (almost same price range, could be cheaper) contrast 100k or more versus 8k (the optoma full hd version). some plasmas are no longer measuring their clarity via contrast ratios like the kuro.
2000 to 3000 max hours for the lamp life (add another 15 to 20k once the lamp burns out. don't forget to consider the hassle of finding a replacement) versus 60000 to 100000 hours for plasmas.

if i can place the pj anywhere i want (not burdening myself with keystoning, throw distance and etc,) or watch full hd glory in all lighting conditions. I would certainly recommend all folks throw out their inhibitions with pj cost and simply just go big.

I think a buyer should consider a more economical way of setting up his home theatre. all i'm talking about is practicality and nothing more. i firmly believe one reason why the HT pj madness caught on was because the prices came down below 50k.  so the price really is a factor.


Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:17 AM
the Optoma HD803 can be had for even lower - considerably lower - than what's being asked here by S & S.

i myself am roaming about and looking for a cheap pj, can you pm me the shop? thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: docelmo on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:39 AM

Most if not all PJ users and that includes me....chose a 2-display setup.
-PJ ( in my case a w500) for full on movie viewing ;D
-LCD/Plasma/Crt( in my case pana 37") for other viewing purposes ;D

In the end, it all comes down to the person's viewing style, preference, budget...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 20, 2008 at 11:51 AM

In the end, it all comes down to the person's viewing style, preference, budget...


xactly.


(http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/epson-powerlite-home-cinema-6500-ub-projector.jpg)
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_6500_UB.htm (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_6500_UB.htm)
I'm really interested with this pj. costs more than the ae3000 so i would assume it'll fall within the 200k price range. *sigh*
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: E-reply on Dec 20, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Aside from size, which one has better picture quality (contrast, colors, deep black) at same price---Optoma HD803 Full HD DLP vs. Panasonic 50PV80?  ???

There is really no right way to compare contrast and color level between a plasma TV and a cinema projector. A cinema projector contrast level is measured or evaluated according to the quality of the room. Projector will certainly reveal better contrast in a darker room than in a less darkly room. In the same manner, the color will deteriorate--wash-out--in a lighted environment. Also, the contrast and color will vary according to projection size.

In a room that is fully lighted, a plasma or an LCD TV will certainly look better picture--superior contrast and color--than projector.

We should rather compare apple to apple: projector to projector or plasma to LCD TV. Also, comparison should be made according to size of projection picture.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Dec 20, 2008 at 01:03 PM
Dear Pal PIG_FREAK: Call this contact no. #09177-625-777 for the OPTOMA HD803. You could negotiate for a better deal. Or, call another fellow, Peter, who could sell you slightly older but brand new projector units like the OPTOMA HD27 and the PANASONIC AE900u. The 900u is a winner in my cinematic books. #0917-516-5285.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: CMac on Dec 21, 2008 at 02:28 AM
Dear Pal PIG_FREAK: Call this contact no. #09177-625-777 for the OPTOMA HD803. You could negotiate for a better deal. Or, call another fellow, Peter, who could sell you slightly older but brand new projector units like the OPTOMA HD27 and the PANASONIC AE900u. The 900u is a winner in my cinematic books. #0917-516-5285.

thanks bro! highly appreciate this.  ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 21, 2008 at 06:58 AM
thanks bro! highly appreciate this.  ;D

O ayan bibili na.  :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: keema on Dec 23, 2008 at 05:54 PM
question lang po..kagabi sinubukan ko lang yung business projector sa office kinabit ko gamit laptop ko...bakit parang may trapezoid shape  shadow sa labas tapos yung inner naman medyo square na...pano ba maayos un na tama yung shape na hindi na trapezoid?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 23, 2008 at 06:08 PM
question lang po..kagabi sinubukan ko lang yung business projector sa office kinabit ko gamit laptop ko...bakit parang may trapezoid shape  shadow sa labas tapos yung inner naman medyo square na...pano ba maayos un na tama yung shape na hindi na trapezoid?

usually this happens pag hindi talaga maganda yung measurement between the pj and the screen, ika nga hindi siya eksakto, use the pj's keystone to adjust this and make it square or rectangular again. but in ht, it is best that no keystone adjustment has benn made to the image. so, placement preparation is really the key.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: keema on Dec 23, 2008 at 06:44 PM
salamat sir iiinas..pero sa wall lang yung gamit ko, walang screen...so un...yung outer shadow is parang trapezoid shape tapos yung mismong pino-project na image ay square naman...nung ginamit ko yung keystone to adjust ang nagbabago na shape is yung inner, yung pino-project kong image, hindi yung outer.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Dec 23, 2008 at 08:14 PM
salamat sir iiinas..pero sa wall lang yung gamit ko, walang screen...so un...yung outer shadow is parang trapezoid shape tapos yung mismong pino-project na image ay square naman...nung ginamit ko yung keystone to adjust ang nagbabago na shape is yung inner, yung pino-project kong image, hindi yung outer.



hmmm.... sorry hindi ko ma-imagine, may picture ka, para subukan nating pagaralan, pati narin mga ibang gurus dito.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:59 PM
salamat sir iiinas..pero sa wall lang yung gamit ko, walang screen...so un...yung outer shadow is parang trapezoid shape tapos yung mismong pino-project na image ay square naman...nung ginamit ko yung keystone to adjust ang nagbabago na shape is yung inner, yung pino-project kong image, hindi yung outer.



Baka naman yung wall mo ang hindi pantay or yung pinaglalagyan ng projector. Try using a drape na suspended para makita mo kung yung issue ng trapezoid ay nasa PJ or nasa pinagpoprojectan.  ???
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: one4u2nb on Feb 04, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Just wondering what you guys would recommend as a best buy projector now for around P50,000 ?  That would be available....
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jerix on Feb 05, 2009 at 08:22 AM
Bro call Mr. Arman Pescasio of AVCP Trading dealer of  Panasonic PJs. He might give you the best offer for the AX200.  ;D AVCP -- 535-7363/533-4415

AVCP provides free home delivery and unit visitation upon request.  ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Feb 05, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Bro call Mr. Arman Pescasio of AVCP Trading dealer of  Panasonic PJs. He might give you the best offer for the AX200.  ;D AVCP -- 535-7363/533-4415

AVCP provides free home delivery and unit visitation upon request.  ;)

Yeah very cool store, gives 6mos warranty on lamp replacement compared to others 90days lang ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: reezy on Feb 17, 2009 at 01:54 PM
Hello!

We still have stock of Benq w500 DLP Home Theater Projector. Brand New. The price is 50k sale price. You can contact me at my mobile number 0917-8850826 or landline 911-7013.

Thanks,

Mitch
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: rjca on Mar 23, 2009 at 02:51 PM
we're currently setting up 2 conference rooms so I need suggestions on projectors and speakers, I also need help with the cabling (vga and speaker wire) since they're very long. thanks please suggest models and where to buy.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dorgas on Mar 27, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Good day,

Mga sir ask lang po ako kung ano recommend nyo na projector for outdoor, well not really outdoor, we will be using it in a gym. Multipurpose gym sya, pag umaga kasi pag may event sa gym like graduation, basketball etc. yung projector na gamit namin e halos ala ka na makita, kailangan mo pa maglagay ng kelaking lona sa mga bintana para mag dim lang yung place.

Epson EMP-S4 yung LCD Projector na gamit namin
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: mojito on Mar 28, 2009 at 10:39 AM
pana ae3000 tsaka polk audio (front rear and center) sa sub ok ang SVS.

hope this help
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Mar 28, 2009 at 02:01 PM
we're currently setting up 2 conference rooms so I need suggestions on projectors and speakers, I also need help with the cabling (vga and speaker wire) since they're very long. thanks please suggest models and where to buy.

i think if its for business purposes rather than entertainment. try to get the panasonic data projectors. cosmotech sells them, our office got the model (for got the model number) that has built in wifi already, cost around 80k. so in essence, you really dont need any cable anymore since almost all laptops now have wifi. it can transmit up to 15 laptops images. but if you want long vga cables i think cosmotech sells them too.

as for speakers. i think if its for business type presentations, karaoke type speakers are way better than ht speakers. its cheaper and it does a so so job for transmitting audio but great if you will connect the pa system too when people may need mic to talk and present to a bigger audience. but if the conference room is small, our office just use a bose system, pricey yes, but the cube speakers are very easy to hide.

 :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: blackie on Mar 28, 2009 at 05:34 PM
We use different models of InFocus projectors at the office.  Would suggest getting better cables though.

Good luck on the search. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dorgas on Mar 30, 2009 at 08:21 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: taurus_cute on Mar 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM
TRY MITSUBISHI. I suggest you go for the 3,000 lumen MITSUBISHI XD490U which could managed well with a gym's dimension. It has the TI DARKCHIP 3 which is superb for cinema-grade resolution, a versatile native XGA resolution with DVI connector, a zoom function for up to a 150-inch screen, and at a price of not more than P105,000. This is the only XGA DLP projector I knew which has the Darkchip 3, as if its being geared for both home theater viewing and as a multimedia beamer for that extra lumens and giant zoom.

If you go for Epson or Infocus, you'll be tolerating the monopolistic, high-price policy of its Philippine distributors who doesn't care a whet if you buy or not because they hold the exclusive stocking. Their pricing is very questionable ethically because they could imposed as much as 45 percent of a profit margin to any one model - this means that a unit which costs anywhere in the world at an MSRP of around P68,000 could be sold by the local Infocus or Epson to as much as P140,000.

Call Charlie for Mitsubishi quote at his electrical cables shop at (02) 241-4008 or text him at #0917-532-6496. He's a Chinese supplier, from the independent market. Thanks for heeding suggestion.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: gearhead000 on Mar 30, 2009 at 01:37 PM
This is the only XGA DLP projector I knew which has the Darkchip 3, as if its being geared for both home theater viewing and as a multimedia beamer for that extra lumens and giant zoom.

tama. for the OP's application you should be looking more on multimedia/business projectors for that extra lumen output.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Dorgas on Mar 30, 2009 at 02:52 PM
Great! Thanks for the reply guys laking tulong. Will try to call Cahrlie for more info about the product.

Salamat din sa heads up about other brands hehehe ;D

@Taurus_cute: thanks sa technical details about sa projector na dapat kong bilhin mwah! :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dips15 on Jan 15, 2010 at 07:31 PM
Baket parang namatay na ang PJ threads?  What's the best bang for buck 720p projector today?  Nakakawalang gana kasi since a lot of PJ's got more expensive now than 2 years back?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dips15 on Jan 18, 2010 at 09:56 AM
Going around I found these to be the more affordable projectors to be had (All 720p): 

For those in the know which ones would be of best value:

ACER H5360 HD 3D - 39,900
Optoma HD 75- around 55k?
Infocus in76 - 65k
Panasonic AX-200 - 58k

I know the AX200 is highly rated but is it worth 20k more over the newer Acer?

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: avshop on Jan 18, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Going around I found these to be the more affordable projectors to be had (All 720p): 

For those in the know which ones would be of best value:

ACER H5360 HD 3D - 39,900
Optoma HD 75- around 55k?
Infocus in76 - 65k
Panasonic AX-200 - 58k

I know the AX200 is highly rated but is it worth 20k more over the newer Acer?



where did you find the ax200? :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: blackie on Jan 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM
Maybe our friendly neighborhood sellers can confirm the prices? :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Grendaizer on Sep 07, 2010 at 08:06 PM
My Panasonic PT-AE900 has served me well over the years but has been acting up lately. What projectors for home theater use are good buys in today's market? 1080p would be nice but 720p is good enough if the price difference is substancial.

TIA
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 07, 2010 at 09:11 PM
You can search for some reviews of this projector sir, ACER H5360 HD 3D - P39,900. Came from Panasonic PT-AE900 as well before owning this. Worth the price!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Grendaizer on Sep 08, 2010 at 02:50 PM
Thanks! Actually, I saw your post/review on the acer H5360 HD after I posted in this thread. I went so far as to do the projector screen size calculator. This would be my first choice except or one thing. I plan to put the projector 4 meters away (where the PT-AE900 is) from the screen but after doing the projector screen size computation at the Acer site, a 4 meter distance means a screen size of 111 inches. My screen can actually do 111 inches but from experience, the max I really want is 80 inches. Am I missing a trick or something that will let me buy the Acer H5360 or do I hae to look for another brand/model?

Thanks again for the help!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 08, 2010 at 09:27 PM
ah yan lang talaga ang problema, short throw w/ limited zoom ang H5360 so, you really have to relocate your mounting bracket nearer to the screen to achieve a smaller screen size. I, too have the same problem but will be adjusting the size of the screen instead.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ebttoy on Sep 28, 2010 at 05:51 PM
Sirs,

I'm a newbie here.  I planned to buy a projector with the manual projector screen.  I don't know much about projectors.  I'll be using it for HT purposes. I only have a small room 4m x 4m and height is 3m max.  What projector can you recomment.  My budget is 25 to 40k.  I really confused from all the brands that I saw in Megamall.

Please help naman po.  Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 20, 2010 at 02:00 PM

Due to hectic sched recently, I have not used my SANYO PLV-Z5 for a whole movie and just warming it for 5 mins once a week. 

Last weekend when got time to watch a whole movie, my projector goes blank after 10-15 mins with 2 red light blinking. Definitely not a bulb problem bec when I restart picture is ok again but it keeps going blank after sometime.

Hope anyone can advise the fix. Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Grendaizer on Oct 20, 2010 at 02:18 PM
It's likely a heat issue. I'm guessing the unit senses that the temperature is too high and subsequently shuts it down. Assuming you have it installed in a well ventilated area, try cleaning the vents/filters.

Hope this helps :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM
It's likely a heat issue. I'm guessing the unit senses that the temperature is too high and subsequently shuts it down. Assuming you have it installed in a well ventilated area, try cleaning the vents/filters.

Hope this helps :)

I got it fixed yesterday but Im quite surprised with the solution. In the settings there is option for HIGHLANDS where you can set as ON/OFF. It is initially set as ON, then when set to OFF it went ok and manage to watch for 2 movies.

Now Im curious why the problem only surfaced recently.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 21, 2010 at 01:32 PM
If you can purchase the Epson HC8350 (http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-PowerLite_Home_Cinema_8350.htm) online, you'll get the best bang for the buck 1080p projector.

(http://www.projectorcentral.com/img.cfm?pid=5910)

full HD
50,000:1 contrat ratio
2000 ANSI lumens
MSRP $1299
2010 editor's choice

Top 10 Hometheater Projectors (http://www.projectorcentral.com/home-theater-multimedia-projectors.htm)




 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: praktikal on Oct 21, 2010 at 02:00 PM
Doc, oks yan habang mababa pa palit $  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: vgsison on Oct 30, 2010 at 09:52 PM
How does a mitsu 3800 compare with a panny AE4000?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dimfer on Dec 11, 2010 at 06:37 PM
I am still in the market for my first PJ. I think I've narrowed my search to 4.

Epson 8350 - appears to be best bang for the buck, but at the bottom of Epson line. Am I missing a lot by going with this model?
Epson 8700 - almost twice the money as the 8350. Is it 2x better?
Panny AE4000 - still a good candidate, and now severe discounts can be had. Had things changed since last year?
JVC HD250 D-ILA - trickle down technology from a company that makes a lot more expensive models. good review everywhere. Is this the one?

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Full HD 3D on Apr 04, 2011 at 10:57 AM
(http://[img])http://www.mitsubishi-presentations.com/products/projectors/HC9000D.html?utm_source=ProjectorCentral&utm_medium=display&utm_term=HC9000D&utm_content=Textlink-1x1&utm_campaign=CPC[/img]

Mitsubishi HC9000D Projector
Any inputs on this?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alexxo39 on Jul 31, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Hi everyone.  :)

            I am planning to buy a viewsonic or benQ DLP HD projectors. Since I cant afford the inFocus. Are they good enough? Need some advice.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ALICE GO on Jul 31, 2011 at 09:55 PM
TRY BENQ over the Viewsonic. If you're bent on home cinema, go for the BENQ 1200 DLP PROJECTOR. This is the most applauded 1080p DLP model on the current BenQ cinema projection lineup. Its supposed to challenged and contend against the formidable Mitsubishi HC4000 neck to neck, delivering a brighter, more razor-sharp picture. If you'll insist on an Infocus, remember that the home cinema-grade units has a local distribution thats monopolized by American Technologies Inc.'s sister company. This distributor corners the Infocus market and by virtue of that, won't have no qualms in imposing as much as a 40% markup. Thats why if you'll asks for the Screenplay models' pricing - madi-discourage ka because its outrageous.

Read first about the BenQ 1200, or consider also the Epson 8350. Then after you've evaluated the strengths and suitabilities to your home setup of these two models, you may try to contact Anya here and see if he could serve the one or the other.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alexxo39 on Jul 31, 2011 at 10:08 PM
Thanks a lot Alice! :)

       I"m from the province (Cagayan De Oro City)..can you recommend a dealer/store the sells ben q? Thanks much! = ) . . . BTW I am also planning to buy that Bose lifestyle V35 (I know its also an outrageous brand) but I am just so impressed by its jewel cube speakers and the unify-intelligent-integration-system, basically the simplicity of its operation with its powerful speakers. can you recommend? 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ALICE GO on Jul 31, 2011 at 11:02 PM
ALEXX: I hail from Cagayan De Oro too, a wonder of a town to raise a family and to live a conservative, quiet, saner life...but only during the 70s and the earlier decades. I'm unable to cite any BenQ outlet anywhere in the land who is "crazy" or knowledgeable enough to sell the BenQ 1200 (or the entry-level variaton 1100). Hence my wisdom for you is to ask Anya - a.k.a. Philip - here to order one for you from Amazon. This is the fastest and CHEAPEST route you could take on to be able to enjoy the magic of home cinema. Exploit the critically low dollar exchange rate right now (at around P42 to $1.00). As to the Bose, its distribution is monopolized by Eleksis Marketing, its a Chinoy-owned concern who - again - would have no qualms in imposing as much as 40% markup for all their product line, marketing the brand as a sort of a status symbol rather than a populist-oriented A/V name. Take note, and others more authoritative than me can lecture better on this - when you pay for a Bose, you're also paying premium on its "exclusivity." Hence you're bolstering Eleksis' outrageous pricing policy. Its akin to paying $150 for a Monster 1.3 HDMI cable when another cable of the same length and HDMI version costs a mere $25.

Concentrate on the IMAGE, the picture. Ideally, the biggest you could find and afford. Bringing home a front projector is a magical experience, no user I know has come to abandon giant-screen home cinema after they started on the path. There's nothing like it, nowhere.  For me, sound/audio comes only second and to proceed to a Bose seemed an overkill, I feel you're being bambozzled by Bose's expensive, multi-media advertising campaign (ad spots on the Inquirer's Business section, periodic press releases on the major spreadsheets, etc.).
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: praktikal on Aug 01, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Before you decide, search mo muna baka may mga negative feedback sa napupusuan mo. hth  ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alexxo39 on Aug 01, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Thanks po sa advices nyo.  :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: pa3ck608 on Oct 23, 2011 at 08:49 PM
has anyone tried a Samsung SP-M221 LCD projector for ht use? kung wala pa, perhaps pj gurus can give some inputs on this model based on specs. tia!

SRP: P25K w/ free 70X70 screen
Graphic Mode: XGA
Native Resolution:1024 x 768
HDTV Compatibility: 576i,576p,720p,1080i 
Standard Mode Brightness: 2200 lumens
Contrast (Full On/Off) : 2000:1
Native Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Compatible Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Video Signal Standard: HDTV
Video Signal Format: NTSC,PAL,SECAM
Vertical Keystone Correction: -20/+20
Throw Ratio 1.48 to 1.78
Maximum Vertical Sync: 75 Hz
Maximum Horizontal Sync: 80 kHz
Zoom Ratio: 1.2:1
Digital Zoom: Yes
Lens Shift: None
HDMI: Yes

 
 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Not best for HDTV viewing master. Meron degradation sa picture quality dahil lagi nya i-scale ang HD material to 16:9 hence, the native res. of 1024x768 / 4:3. But if you are going to use it for presentation purposes ok lang.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: pa3ck608 on Oct 27, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Not best for HDTV viewing master. Meron degradation sa picture quality dahil lagi nya i-scale ang HD material to 16:9 hence, the native res. of 1024x768 / 4:3. But if you are going to use it for presentation purposes ok lang.

i see. thanks for the insights master luther. I've been shopping around for the best bang for the buck ht projector and it seems the choices are really limited in the sub 40k range. are there any other options out there thats also a top performer aside from acer h5360?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 27, 2011 at 01:25 PM
I'm not sure about the exact model pero meron yan from Optoma, BenQ, Vivitek or Viewsonic. Sensya na master medyo hindi na ako updated lately  ;D Yung Optoma maganda din reviews halos lahat ng nasa line-up nila.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ehmarzo on Nov 13, 2011 at 09:26 PM
I'm not sure about the exact model pero meron yan from Optoma, BenQ, Vivitek or Viewsonic. Sensya na master medyo hindi na ako updated lately  ;D Yung Optoma maganda din reviews halos lahat ng nasa line-up nila.

Also looking to go the pj way.  Acer din nakita ko na swak sabudget ko. Yung mga optoma sa sulit, ang worry ko lang is the warranty and lamp replavpcement availability locally.  Pls enlighten me pj experts. Thanks.
Title: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: crazyhog on Nov 13, 2011 at 11:24 PM
personally i own ACER 5360, but my brother asked me to look para s kanya naman. wonder if meron bang for the buck PJ na 1080p maybe. plus factor if 3D ready.

 a 1080p PJ that is available locally. budget is around 40 to 80k. viewing distnce is 11-12feet. more on movies plus sports. TIA
Title: Re: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: pa3ck608 on Nov 14, 2011 at 12:06 AM
optoma hd20 is 65k at greenhills. kay sns yta 70k.pm mo na lng si vic baka may discount pa. sa marketplace i saw another bnew optoma, i believe its also 1080p im just not sure about the model. check mo din its cheaper yata.
Title: Re: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: crazyhog on Nov 14, 2011 at 12:48 AM
optoma hd20 is 65k at greenhills. kay sns yta 70k.pm mo na lng si vic baka may discount pa. sa marketplace i saw another bnew optoma, i believe its also 1080p im just not sure about the model. check mo din its cheaper yata.

salamat pa3ck608. il search d net and its reviews

anyone knows may epson 8350 available here s Pinas?
Title: Re: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: joko11 on Nov 14, 2011 at 03:06 AM
looking for PJ also to replace panel use.
maiba naman ;D
mas mura kasi ang PJ kesa panel eh.
keep suggestions coming sirs ;)
Title: Re: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: defcon3 on Nov 14, 2011 at 03:34 AM
i don't know if meron na dyan sa atin, but try to audition LG HS201

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuKs4OVWN-0
http://www.amazon.com/LG-HS201-Slim-Front-Projector/product-reviews/B002Q4U5BM/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://reviews.cnet.com/home-theater-projectors/lg-hs201-dlp-projector/4505-7858_7-34053618.html


here's some screen shots
(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j326/darwin0704/user602289_pic20668_1319662257.jpg)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j326/darwin0704/user602289_pic20667_1319662257.jpg)


Title: Re: suggestion nyo po for PJ
Post by: pa3ck608 on Nov 17, 2011 at 03:39 PM
salamat pa3ck608. il search d net and its reviews

anyone knows may epson 8350 available here s Pinas?

you're welcome. try to contact avdi, i think i saw epson ht projectors the last time i was there.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 17, 2011 at 06:38 PM
any user or optoma projector here?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ricky on Nov 17, 2011 at 08:25 PM
any user or optoma projector here?  ;D ;D

Hd20 hd180 now on sale for $650 ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Gabbby on Nov 24, 2011 at 12:54 PM
is it okay to purchase projectors abroad or better local purchase for warranty ? planning to get a 1080p projector (2D) and was looking at the Epson 8350 or local Panasonic / Mitsubishi units
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 24, 2011 at 02:42 PM
is it okay to purchase projectors abroad or better local purchase for warranty ? planning to get a 1080p projector (2D) and was looking at the Epson 8350 or local Panasonic / Mitsubishi units

It depends. Projectors can sometimes be 30-50% cheaper abroad and that makes it tempting. Obviously, the problem is the warranty. Kapag nasira, laki problem.

Lots of members have bought their projectors from www.hivizone.com (HK). Me too.  ;D

Still, it's a risk.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: alfred on Dec 18, 2011 at 05:59 PM
saan ba makaka audtion ng hd projector dito sa manila?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: gancho on Dec 19, 2011 at 06:12 PM
whats the best projector i could get for a 20k budget,

for hd ht use
Title: Recommend me a Projector!
Post by: dobermaxx69 on Jan 10, 2012 at 01:51 PM
Just as the title says. ;D

I'm currently using a Panny AX-100. I want to upgrade to 1080p projector. Budget is around 80k. I saw a Mitsubishi HC 3800 at
JBL Acoustical space in Megamall for 75k. I was just wondering if you guys know of a better deal.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Recommend me a Projector!
Post by: qwerty_88 on Jan 11, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Sent you PM
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: LouPah on Jan 21, 2012 at 09:18 AM
Did anyone here in this forum used the Led projector? I have a mini-theater & if I may, here is my set-up....

For my audio system:
     Yamaha RX V-440 Receiver
     Pioneer DV-610 AV Upscaled dvd player
     Carnival-5 center speaker
     Carnival dipole rear speaker
     Carnival-9 subwoofer
     Kef Q1 front speaker

For my display system:
     Cre x205 led projector (240 lumens & svga only)
     viewtech 92" matte white porjector screen

Note: All of this systems are in budget or cheap only, i can't afford for the hi-ends.

Title: Recommend me a projector.
Post by: s_migs on Mar 24, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Hello sirs/ma'am I need your expert advice, i am planning to put a projector inside my room for gaming and blu-ray movie viewing, the problem is.. my bedroom's limited with space, i have measured the distance of the possible location where the projector will be installed & its exactly 10ft. Now my question is what type of PJ do i get with good picture quality and what size of screen will be best for this distace? or is it even possible? thanks!
Title: Re: Recommend me a projector.
Post by: SymphonyX7 on Mar 24, 2012 at 11:20 PM
Hello sirs/ma'am I need your expert advice, i am planning to put a projector inside my room for gaming and blu-ray movie viewing, the problem is.. my bedroom's limited with space, i have measured the distance of the possible location where the projector will be installed & its exactly 10ft. Now my question is what type of PJ do i get with good picture quality and what size of screen will be best for this distace? or is it even possible? thanks!

The new Acer K330 has quite a short throw. IIRC, 8 ft should get you 80", 10 ft is 100". Thing is, it's LED. It should be perfectly suitable for nighttime viewing and with little to no ambient light. Totally not suitable for daytime viewing unless you have blackout blinds/curtains to darken the room appropriately.

Short run down of the K330:
- 500 lumens. Perfect for nighttime viewing. Will require a room that's dark for daytime viewing.
- LED lamp = 20,000 hour lamp life, quick shutdown and start up, runs cool and without worry of overheating for extended use.
- WXGA (1280x800) native, but uses diamond pixels. Effective resolution is lower. But still very sharp.
- DLP = better blacks, sharper than LCD and LCos, smooth motion (plasma-ish), and has "DLP-pop" effect that makes colors very natural but extremely vibrant. You'll love this if you love plasmas. May affect people sensitive to RBE (rainbow effect).
- Small, about the size of a Nintendo Wii. Power supply is built-in.
- VESA-compliant mount supplement on the bottom side, which means a typical projector ceiling mount will fit this.
- Has HDMI, VGA, Composite, Video/Audio-In, Audio-Out, USB port.
- 35K Php SRP. Villman offers it at 35K with 0% interest @ 12 mos. and they'll even throw in a 70x70 inch screen and a laser presenter.

Other alternatives include the Optoma GT720 which is also short-throw, but it's not readily available in the Philippines.

Sample shot of the K330 (taken from AVSForum):
(http://i.imgur.com/tsLTE.jpg)

For comparison, here's a shot from my own Acer K11 (858x600 native, 200 lumens):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/ginjiamano0075/172961_196091180409869_100000269651248_710791_1348300_oCustom.jpg)
Title: Re: Recommend me a projector.
Post by: GuyChan on Mar 26, 2012 at 02:59 AM
I am also looking for a PJ for the same use and I have limited space in my room. Approximately 12 feet viewing distance. I have tried Viewsonic's distance calculator and below projector will provide approximately 100 inch of viewing area at 12 feet distance. With regard to specs, it is also DLP and has 2000 lumens. I read the higher the lumens the better because you can still use it in a room even if it is not very dark. What I like about this as well is it already 1080p however my concern is Viewsonic is not that known for its projector products. It is about 35k when converted to peso similar to Acer K330 but lamp life is significantly lower compared to K330 as I believe the higher the lumens the shorter is the lamp life. At any rate, I just wanted to know your thoughts on this PJ. 

Thanks in advance.

ViewSonic PRO8200 1080p DLP Home Theatre Projector

1920 x1080 (1080p) resolution, 2,000 Lumens, 3000:1 DCR
Throw Ratio (1.46 - 2.2:1), Dual HDMI Inputs with HDCP
10W x 2 Stereo Speakers, Lamp life: 4000/6000 hrs (N/Eco)
Keystone adjustment +/-40%, Low Audible Noise of < 29dB
Eco Mode for energy savings, longer lamp life and reduced audible noise, Laser remote control with batteries
It has 1920 x1080 (1080p) resolution, 2,000 Lumens, 3000:1 DCR
It has 10W x 2 Stereo Speakers, Lamp life: 4000/6000 hrs (N/Eco)


http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-PRO8200-1080p-Theatre-Projector/dp/B00465W7EC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332298192&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-PRO8200-1080p-Theatre-Projector/dp/B00465W7EC/ref=as_li_wdgt_js_ex?&linkCode=wsw&tag=chthou0c-20)

Try this distance calculator
http://www.viewsonic.com/viewschool/distance-calculator/
Title: Re: Recommend me a projector.
Post by: jackryan on Mar 28, 2012 at 09:44 AM
Thanks for this lead --- Acer K330

"The Acer K330 Projector delivers HD 720p video entertainment with a native 16:10 aspect ratio via an HDMI™ connection, turning your living room into a home theater with immersive cinema-style visuals and brilliant color reproduction. With 500 ANSI lumens brightness and 4000:1 contrast ratio, this travel-sized powerhouse delivers excellent image quality that's perfect for digital entertainment. Advanced Acer technologies such as ColorSafe and SmartFormat make using the K330 a breeze no matter where your travels may take you."

Would they have a model version that can also do 1080p?
Title: Re: Recommend me a projector.
Post by: s_migs on Mar 28, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Thanks for all the replies! :) I tried visiting villman at trinoma earlier sadly they didn't have the acer k330 available. :( i might swing by their other branches this weekend.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jay2 on Jun 01, 2012 at 03:12 PM
Need a sugestion regarding projectors, I'll be donating a projector to our church will be buying on Monday na. Ano po best value for money na marerecommend nyo budget is 50k.

There is already a projector screen installed in the church a granview 10feet x 9feet (from my previous HT room). Medyo maliwanag yung loob ng church at ang capacity is around 250pax.


Thanks
Jay
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: vgsison on Jun 13, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Panasonic PT AR100H Full HD is already available locally sa AVX Harisson Plaza. Bang for the buck HT PJ. PM for those who would like to have the store's number.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 01, 2012 at 04:09 PM
Need a sugestion regarding projectors, I'll be donating a projector to our church will be buying on Monday na. Ano po best value for money na marerecommend nyo budget is 50k.

There is already a projector screen installed in the church a granview 10feet x 9feet (from my previous HT room). Medyo maliwanag yung loob ng church at ang capacity is around 250pax.


Thanks
Jay

Sa BF QC church...?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: reynold on Aug 26, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Panasonic PT AR100H Full HD is already available locally sa AVX Harisson Plaza. Bang for the buck HT PJ. PM for those who would like to have the store's number.


Any idea how much bro? Thanks.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kofranks on Sep 13, 2012 at 01:36 PM
I'm also in the market for a new HT projector. My Benq W100 was just diagnosed to have a motherboard problem so I will just retire and replace it. Looking at the Optoma HD20 or Acer H5360 for my 90" screen. Any other recos? My budget is around P60K but looking at value for money (durability, after sales service aside for picture quality). For movie watching only and no gaming.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 13, 2012 at 01:55 PM
I'm also in the market for a new HT projector. My Benq W100 was just diagnosed to have a motherboard problem so I will just retire and replace it. Looking at the Optoma HD20 or Acer H5360 for my 90" screen. Any other recos? My budget is around P60K but looking at value for money (durability, after sales service aside for picture quality). For movie watching only and no gaming.

Try mo Panasonic AR100.
Or sa Amazon check mo Epson 3010 and Optoma HD33. Palagay ko your 60K will cover the shipping already ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: toys4geeks on Sep 13, 2012 at 04:37 PM
I'm also in the market for a new HT projector. My Benq W100 was just diagnosed to have a motherboard problem so I will just retire and replace it. Looking at the Optoma HD20 or Acer H5360 for my 90" screen. Any other recos? My budget is around P60K but looking at value for money (durability, after sales service aside for picture quality). For movie watching only and no gaming.

hmm, open ka ba for a preloved PJ? if yes, PM lang. ;D

Update: sold my other PJ Benq W500 from jazzyjake to kofranks, tipid pa siya :) We tested the unit for a few minutes even with the lights on, and linaw.
Title: Recommend a Projector
Post by: vgsison on Sep 13, 2012 at 05:42 PM
May panasonic AR100 locally na near your budget. pm me if you want details.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Courage on Sep 13, 2012 at 07:37 PM
Try mo Panasonic AR100.
Or sa Amazon check mo Epson 3010 and Optoma HD33. Palagay ko your 60K will cover the shipping already ;)

Brader Louie my Panasonic PT-AE8000 na.... UPGRADE NA!!!! he he he
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 13, 2012 at 07:58 PM
Brader Louie my Panasonic PT-AE8000 na.... UPGRADE NA!!!! he he he

Ngek, masayang masaya pa ko sa AE7000 brader :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kofranks on Sep 13, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Sa Amazon purchase ba it is shipped to your doorstep? Hindi na dumadaan sa Philpost?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Courage on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Ngek, masayang masaya pa ko sa AE7000 brader :)

Pero magiging masayang masayang masayang masayang masayang masaya ka sa 8000 ha ha ha ha...

Mas madami yan brader...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Huddaf on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:39 PM
I notice that a lot of PJ user here or at least wanting to use a projector never considered a pj with shift lens.

Short Throw is good for small spaces
Hi Definition is a must
HDMI Inputs at least 2
Minimum of 2000 lumens
Lamp Life of 3k above and
Shift Lens for me.

Big comfort having shift lens as a feature of your PJ. Makes aligning of the image to your drape hassle free (or at least lesser).

Good Luck everyone!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: iiinas on Sep 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Sa Amazon purchase ba it is shipped to your doorstep? Hindi na dumadaan sa Philpost?

Nope, you have to have it shipped to a courier service that is based in the USA but ships to the Philippines as cargo/balikbayan box.

If you want it to be shipped by air. Use Johnny air cargo, if it's through sea, then you can try forex cargo.

Try to look at the buying online threads on how to avail of this services. Amazon ships directly to the Philippines items like DVD, bds, books and in some instances watches. But it will pass through philpost, if you use couriers like FedEx, it won't pass through philpost but you will still be assessed with taxes.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Weng! on Sep 14, 2012 at 12:00 AM
Try mo Panasonic AR100.
Or sa Amazon check mo Epson 3010 and Optoma HD33. Palagay ko your 60K will cover the shipping already ;)

Correct ang 60k. My Optoma HD33 = $1270 + $150 (7-day airfreight and tax to manila by FRS).

3D glasses cost $72 each
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Oloap on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:16 PM
Correct ang 60k. My Optoma HD33 = $1270 + $150 (7-day airfreight and tax to manila by FRS).

3D glasses cost $72 each

sir gnew, where did you purchase your optoma? i think you got it real cheap.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Weng! on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM
sir gnew, where did you purchase your optoma? i think you got it real cheap.

bought the HD33 from amazon last aug 27. ngayon tumaas na ang price, naging $1346 na pati yong 3D glasses naging $99 na rin.
BG-3DRFGLASSES 3D RF (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JRMLVK/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00)

pero bumaba naman ang latest version ng 3D glasses, naging $85 nalang from $99 before.
BG-ZF2100GLS Active Shutter 3D-RF (http://www.amazon.com/OPTOMA-TECHNOLOGY-BG-ZF2100GLS-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B008PQJXFO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce)

ewan ko bakit mas mahal ngayon ang older model than the new model ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: toys4geeks on Sep 17, 2012 at 07:11 AM
bought the HD33 from amazon last aug 27. ngayon tumaas na ang price, naging $1346 na pati yong 3D glasses naging $99 na rin.
BG-3DRFGLASSES 3D RF (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005JRMLVK/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00)

pero bumaba naman ang latest version ng 3D glasses, naging $85 nalang from $99 before.
BG-ZF2100GLS Active Shutter 3D-RF (http://www.amazon.com/OPTOMA-TECHNOLOGY-BG-ZF2100GLS-Shutter-Glasses/dp/B008PQJXFO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce)

ewan ko bakit mas mahal ngayon ang older model than the new model ;D

sa amazon, i waited for a while to get a new PJ, pero everytime you are about to buy, biglang umaakyat ang presyo grrr. have no idea bakit ganun

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Oloap on Sep 17, 2012 at 01:30 PM
thanks gnew.

weird, the pjs are supposed to go down. pero mukhang malakas ang demand. tsk tsk. will just wait for the new models to come out.

im choosing between ar100u, 3010 and hd33.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: kofranks on Sep 20, 2012 at 06:16 PM
thanks all. got a pre-loved Benq W500 720p projector c/o toys4geeks. beautiful pj with an equally great picture quality + lens shift. my gears are now connected to both my pj and 51" plasma via 4-way switcher and 2-way splitter. very happy!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: odyopayl on Sep 29, 2012 at 05:43 AM
I'm planning to buy  Panny AE-7000 is it advisable to go for the newer AE-8000? From the review it's more on the perfection of the 3D image.
By the way, is there any supplier of PJ Screen with customize size and automatic na rin?TIA
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Weng! on Sep 29, 2012 at 06:28 AM
thanks gnew.

weird, the pjs are supposed to go down. pero mukhang malakas ang demand. tsk tsk. will just wait for the new models to come out.

im choosing between ar100u, 3010 and hd33.

mag 3D ka na. both the 3010 and hd33 are bright enough in a standard-sized room.

before i did not bother much about 3D after watching from my bro's 51" plasma. i get distracted by the surroundings around the tv viewing from a 11-ft distance.

now, with 120" of 3D image, i can sit close to the screen to simulate an IMAX size vision or move back to my regular seating position at 13 feet, w/ a little distraction around the screen ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: elim on Nov 05, 2012 at 05:13 PM
if anyone is interested pwede tayo magpasok ng 3010, PM me just in time for Christmas ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on Nov 26, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Anyone using sanyo plv-z6?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: qguy on Dec 07, 2012 at 05:15 AM
Any good projectors under 25K ?
Target screen size is 6 feet across
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: hitman531ph on Feb 14, 2013 at 09:21 PM
I heard that in 2014, all projectors will no longer have the VGA connector which connects to older laptops.  The current laptops have both VGA and HDMI.  The new and upcoming laptops only have HDMI.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: pantellica on May 12, 2013 at 12:11 AM
anyone here using Optoma hd21? so far this is the only available model that I can afford, though I'm into Panasonic brand but there's no available model lower than the ptae7000.

and 2d lang po ba yung Optoma hd21 and can't play 3d movies unlike Panasonic pta7000?
I'm just for 2d viewing only not that much interested on 3d viewing.

any reviews about Optoma hd21 or better yet I'll get Epson? which is better?

thanks in advance for reply.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: yakisoba on May 12, 2013 at 12:33 PM
what projector is better?  The Optoma HD33 or Benq W1070? 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: JT on May 12, 2013 at 11:07 PM
My next upgrade from sanyo pl-z5 is either panasonic pt-ae8000 or epson tw8100.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jepoi on Jul 08, 2013 at 07:48 PM
Quote
Any good projectors under 25K ?
Target screen size is 6 feet across

same question...  if none, what's the cheapest but decent projector that you guys recommend?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DTNS on Jul 08, 2013 at 08:23 PM
same question...  if none, what's the cheapest but decent projector that you guys recommend?

the Acer H6510BD ;) ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: babaandnana on Aug 31, 2013 at 12:02 AM
@DTNS

Sir, how about a decent 3D projector that can be used with passive 3d glasses?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DTNS on Aug 31, 2013 at 05:52 PM
@DTNS

Sir, how about a decent 3D projector that can be used with passive 3d glasses?

I don't know of any. try checking the reviews at projectorcentral.com
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2013 at 07:39 PM
@DTNS

Sir, how about a decent 3D projector that can be used with passive 3d glasses?

Epson Powerlite W16SK (http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/w16sk/index.php)
LG CF3D (http://www.projectorreviews.com/lg/cf3d/)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: babaandnana on Sep 01, 2013 at 12:08 AM
@dtns, @nerveblocker

Thanks
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: wcngo on Sep 06, 2013 at 11:38 AM
In case anyone is looking for a BenQ projector, please contact Astech at Tel 3324342 or go to
https://www.facebook.com/benqprojectorphillippines
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Blu-devil on Jun 06, 2014 at 09:25 PM
Purchased a BenQ W1070 Projector with free glasses and 5 year warranty, all for £499.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Waxx on Nov 19, 2014 at 10:54 AM
for 2014 models.. whats the best 3dpj now? ae8000 o epson? price around 120 to 140k.

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 19, 2014 at 11:18 AM
for 2014 models.. whats the best 3dpj now? ae8000 o epson? price around 120 to 140k.



If 3D without gaming its the Epson tw8200 / 5030...
If 3D with gaming its the Sony hw40es...

For 3D viewing alone, the Epson is better according to reviews.

Picture Quality wise the Sony and Epson beats Panasonic AE8000... Saw all this 3 PJs during the Hifi Show

Both are price at 120K to 140K locally ;)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 19, 2014 at 11:22 AM
If 3D without gaming its the Epson tw8200 / 5030...
If 3D with gaming its the Sony hw40es...

For 3D viewing alone, the Epson is better according to reviews.

Picture Quality wise the Sony and Epson beats Panasonic AE8000... Saw all this 3 PJs during the Hifi Show

Both are price at 120K to 140K locally ;)

Hmmm vote for sony and epson  ::) ::)

Yan ba yung two PJ na pinag pipilian mo sister?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 19, 2014 at 11:25 AM
Hmmm vote for sony and epson  ::) ::)

Yan ba yung two PJ na pinag pipilian mo sister?  ;D ;D ;D

Yup sis, medyo mas matimbang si Sony because of the lower input lag sa gaming.
Based from reviews online kasi very noticeabe daw ang input lag nang Epson sa gaming kahit may Game Mode cya...
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jambam on Nov 19, 2014 at 01:01 PM
3d with the Sony is quite good really , at the hifi show I tried the 3d demo of the LG , and the sony is comparable . I have not tried the epson though , but really I dont think I could watch 3d for a whole movie  .

off topic  I suddenly remembered this topic and wow 12 years ago na pala ang 1st projector ko ..(Page 1)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Waxx on Nov 19, 2014 at 05:45 PM
will panasonic 3d glasses work with epson?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 19, 2014 at 09:22 PM
will panasonic 3d glasses work with epson?

No for the new Epson PJ
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: dualdeath on Dec 15, 2014 at 12:03 PM
meron ba Optoma HD141X dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jackdee on Jun 29, 2015 at 10:47 AM
Hi guys, up for this page.

Ask lang po if ok.don ying epson tw-5300

Ano po maganda screen para dito.

Thanks po
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DTNS on Jun 29, 2015 at 06:15 PM
@dualdeath

pm tein. his shop carries Optoma projectors

@jackdee

get the biggest screen you can afford. haha! :D
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: gremlin on Aug 05, 2015 at 11:37 AM
i didn't back read, so if this has been suggested, my apologies. 

For first LED 1080P PJ  under 50k, I highly recommend LG's PF 1500

http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PF1500-smart-led-projector (http://www.lg.com/us/projectors/lg-PF1500-smart-led-projector)

here's projector central review:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/lg-pf1500-projector-review.htm (http://www.projectorcentral.com/lg-pf1500-projector-review.htm)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: jonjon on Oct 07, 2015 at 03:33 PM
Kumuha dito sa office ng projector, NEC PA721X.  4k resolution na din pala ito.  Gagamitin lang sa flag ceremony para ipalabas ang lupang hinirang.  Hay, kung pwede nga lang iuwi.  P230k ang kuha.  Mura na ba yun?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: LouPah on Dec 07, 2015 at 10:10 AM
Kumuha dito sa office ng projector, NEC PA721X.  4k resolution na din pala ito.  Gagamitin lang sa flag ceremony para ipalabas ang lupang hinirang.  Hay, kung pwede nga lang iuwi.  P230k ang kuha.  Mura na ba yun?


Mura yan bro, if for office or company  used. BUT for individual or home used, its very expensive & not practical.
Title: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 14, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Mga walang space sa likod ng HT set up...
Eto ang okay, Ultra Short Throw PJ ;)
Can project 100" with just 15" from the screen :o

http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector (http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ti on Feb 15, 2016 at 08:38 AM
Mga walang space sa likod ng HT set up...
Eto ang okay, Ultra Short Throw PJ ;)
Can project 100" with just 15" from the screen :o

http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector (http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector)

magkano kaya ito locally....

may review na po ba ito kung ikokompara sa atleat 55" FHD na mga known brands ?

 
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: DTNS on Feb 15, 2016 at 08:40 AM
Mga walang space sa likod ng HT set up...
Eto ang okay, Ultra Short Throw PJ ;)
Can project 100" with just 15" from the screen :o

http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector (http://www.lg.com/us/home-video/lg-PF1000U-smart-led-projector)

wow! pero wow din ang presyo!  :o
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: ti on Feb 15, 2016 at 08:51 AM
$1400 x 45 = 63k ++ ? vs 55" sony w800c @ 55k -+ ?

kung 10-15k difference maganda na kaya ito alternative compare sa led tv's ?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: swensonb on Feb 15, 2016 at 02:42 PM
up for PF1000U kasama to sa list ng pinagpipilian ko PJ hopefully pag natapos na pagawa dito sa haws namin
maka kuha ako nito nagustuhan ko dito is short throw siya good for small HT space

check this guys setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55la7bJhd04
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: mlorenzo on Feb 21, 2018 at 10:28 PM
any recommended pjs worth 20k and below?
outdoor viewing but mostly night time.
bulbs sana are widely available locally and cheap

saw this GP90 models but prices differ with different manufacturers and found this review/rate page which I think have many gp90 models but different makes.
totoo kaya na kahit same models yung iba wala nung specs nung iba?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: LouPah on Feb 22, 2018 at 09:11 AM
up for PF1000U kasama to sa list ng pinagpipilian ko PJ hopefully pag natapos na pagawa dito sa haws namin
maka kuha ako nito nagustuhan ko dito is short throw siya good for small HT space

check this guys setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55la7bJhd04




Yup, maganda ang Lg kc short throw cya. Pero nong lumabas ang Xgimi H1 last year, nagbago isip ko nong nakita ko tong video comparison nato.       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDJ65-mScGE

Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Blu-devil on Jan 24, 2019 at 07:35 PM
Decided to go for the Epson EH-TW7400 as I wanted 4K and 3D. Time to finally retire my trusty Hitachi TX-PJ200. Saying that, it’s gonna take some doing to beat the 2D produced by the Hitachi.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Blu-devil on Feb 25, 2019 at 08:00 AM
Have an EH-TW9400 on order. Should have it in about a week
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Blu-devil on Mar 13, 2019 at 03:31 AM
My Epson EH-TW9400UB arrived this afternoon. It’s fooking huge. Lots of settings to go through. Watched a couple of episodes of Westworld on Sky in 1080p and out of the box the images looked amazing. A real light canon tho. Went to turn the brightness down and noticed I was already in ECO mode. 4K is gonna look awesome on this.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: wheelee on Mar 13, 2019 at 11:41 AM
WOW! that is one awesome pj! hopefully it's not plagued with the dreaded power supple issue from other models.
Blue Planet II 4K would look pretty awesome on that baby, hope to see some pics.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: mccoy26 on Jul 13, 2019 at 07:04 PM
I'm thinking of getting my first ever projector. Looking for short throw at least 1080P output, which will be for daily media viewing and gaming. Budget is 40-50k max. Of course the more affordable the better.

Please give your recommendations. TIA
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: Blu-devil on Aug 09, 2019 at 03:48 AM
Bought a 135” Silver Ticket Screen to go with my 9400 and it looks the business. Had 10 metres of Black self adhesive velour flock material delivered today. This will cover the walls and ceiling around the screen to kill reflected light. Also had 4 Atmos Ceiling Speakers installed and the sound is through the roof.
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: revskie on Aug 10, 2019 at 06:08 PM
Where did you source out the TW9400UB sir? Local?
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: LouPah on Sep 12, 2019 at 04:42 PM
I am selling my Nierbo Max500 dlp mini projector with 70" silver screen material only, you have to framed it.

Video performance here...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ls9Jiqnea8
Pls. Subscribe to my YouTube Channel. Thanks   

My review here in Pdvd..  http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=211139.0

This mini-projector is equipped with the active shutter 3D-imaging technique used by DLP cinema projectors. The 3D movie source that i've tested so far, is just coming from video streaming on this projector, and the result is GREAT!  This mini-projector almost have it all. It has an ethernet port, wifi, bluetooth, auto keystone correction, usb2 and usb3 port, mira-cast, Hdmi/MHL, and full Android functions. SPDIF audio out not tested yet, but there is a Raw feature in audio settings for digital out. The audio output from the internal speaker of this pj is also good, but not great, but remember you can connect your bluetooth speaker anytime. Really bright projector, with fair contrast, good image color in general but it has an intense red color but you can adjust it in user's color settings. Since this is an Android projector it can handle my air mouse remote for convenient operation.

Anyone interested pls. pm me. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a Projector
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 12, 2019 at 04:50 PM
Bought a 135” Silver Ticket Screen to go with my 9400 and it looks the business. Had 10 metres of Black self adhesive velour flock material delivered today. This will cover the walls and ceiling around the screen to kill reflected light. Also had 4 Atmos Ceiling Speakers installed and the sound is through the roof.

Hi Chief can you post your setup here i need to do the same also on my dedicated room soon. Thanks