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High-Def => General HD Discussion => Topic started by: superpogi on Apr 02, 2008 at 03:31 PM
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Why is Bluray so much more expensive than DVD?
Just how much better Bluray really is than DVD?
Are you people willing to pay the premium price for bluray?
If so then it means you people are not satisfied with DVD, am I right or am I correct? ???
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maybe it's not really that we are not satisfied with DVD, we only want to maximize our new gears which offers better technology. IMHO DVD will not allow us to appreciate fully our new gears. i hope dumating agad yung time when the prices of BD will be the same as the price of DVDs now. Well again, maybe by that time there will again be new and better gears thus another new format ;)
by the way i only buy BDs that I know i will never get tired of watching over and over again. the rest DVD pa din ang binibili ko ;D
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It all boils down to your eyes and ears. As for me, blu ray movies offer better or if not the best picture and audio quality.
For its price naman, you cant compare prices for local release dvds as against blu ray, malayo talaga. if you happen to visit online shops like Amazon.com, prices for sd dvds and blu ray are almost the same.
Local shops naman dito grabe kung mag presyo ng blu ray movies >:(
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Why is Bluray so much more expensive than DVD?
Because you are comparing the price of a 2 year old product with approx. 2% market penetration to a 10 year old product that owns 98% of the market. My 1st DVD player was over $600 and it didn't even have component video output.
Just how much better Bluray really is than DVD?
About 6 times better (based on claims from the HD DVD camp when it was still actively competing).
Are you people willing to pay the premium price for bluray?
Based on the fact that I invested more money on DVD equipment and software initially, my opinion is, I'm not really paying that much premium on HDM...but yes, having seen lots of HDMs, I'm willing to pay premium on HDMs if that's what you consider it.
If so then it means you people are not satisfied with DVD, am I right or am I correct? ???
If a title is available in HD and you have a chance to compare the DVD version, then you should easily see how lossy DVD is...something most of us didnt even realize until HDMs started to get released. I still watch (rent) DVDs though I don't buy new titles anymore.
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Why is Bluray so much more expensive than DVD?
Just how much better Bluray really is than DVD?
Are you people willing to pay the premium price for bluray?
If so then it means you people are not satisfied with DVD, am I right or am I correct? ???
BDs are expensive compared to SDVDs not only because it's a new format, but because it has features that are not available in SDVDs. eg., SQ: DTS-HD, True-HD.
With new gears, you can definitely see the difference in PQ & SQ between BDs and DVDs. How much better is BD compared to DVD, well IMO, much much better. People are willing to pay a premium for BDs considering that they have new gears where to try it. Why upgrade to Plasma or LCD when you can't test the true potentials of these units?
It's not that we're not satisfied with DVDs, something better just came out, as mentioned in some other thread. Although I do purchase BDs, I still continue on purchasing DVDs just the same.
Try out/audition BDs and you will personally see the difference vis-a-vis DVDs.
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Local shops naman dito grabe kung mag presyo ng blu ray movies >:(
agree ako 1000% if only the prices of BD here is similar to what it is online then malamang puro BD na din ang bibilhin ko ;)
to add sa comment ko above, even i use an upconverting player to watch DVD I still feel ang layo ng difference in terms of PQ vs watching a BD movie. Lalo na kapag pinagusapan natin ang SQ ;D
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With new gears, you can definitely see the difference in PQ & SQ between BDs and DVDs. How much better is BD compared to DVD, well IMO, much much better. People are willing to pay a premium for BDs considering that they have new gears where to try it. Why upgrade to Plasma or LCD when you can't test the true potentials of these units?
+1 The better(or bigger) the gear, the more obvious the difference is... :) :) :)
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mag co-exist po yung BD and DVD, not all can afford an HDTV, ilan lang % ang meron HDTV
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I'm satisfy with DVD but if you own a HD display then that's another story. Syempre you want to maximize your display resolution & see the best PQ. But due to the high price of BD, I'm very selective....mostly got those on sale or bargain price. ;D
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Local shops naman dito grabe kung mag presyo ng blu ray movies >:(
Oh yes, agree ako dyan !!!!!
Saw some guys purchasing BDs at a GH store, and this store sells BDs at prices ranging between 1.9K to 2.3K (single BDs)..... sabi ko, kawawa mga ito.... they don't know that they're being ripped-off. There are very few local shops which sell BDs, thus, those shops that do...... harang naman ang price!!!! >:( >:( >:(
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diba cheaper ang BD sa SonyStyle stores, from 1.3k to 1.9k ::) lol
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BD are not expensive. It's about the same price when DVD was new more than 10 years ago.
I remember Sony DVD player we bought was 27T in HK, 19T for Pioneer locally. We got our R1 DVD from Amazon for $18 to $30. since there are only very few DVD movies here in the Phils before. There are still no pirated DVD movies.
We considered BD expensive bec. of so many pirated DVD in the market now.
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Just how captivating high def contents are:
Brother-in-law is visiting Tokyo right now and yesterday I showed him Wrestlemania 2008, XC Elite Shamrock, American Idol and Teagan's Juice all in HD glory.
Result: Pre-planned Tokyo Disneyland tour for today is cancelled. Nood nalang daw muna sya maghapon magdamag ng high def tutal marami pang days to visit Disney Resort... ;D ;D ;D.
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Nice one Clondalkin. ;) That's the power of Hi-def...& it's also addicting! :D
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Just how captivating high def contents are:
Brother-in-law is visiting Tokyo right now and yesterday I showed him Wrestlemania 2008, XC Elite Shamrock, American Idol and Teagan's Juice all in HD glory.
Result: Pre-planned Tokyo Disneyland tour for today is cancelled. Nood nalang daw muna sya maghapon magdamag ng high def tutal marami pang days to visit Disney Resort... ;D ;D ;D.
Nice one ;D Buti na lang postponed lang hindi sinabi na yung gagastosin sa Tokyo Disneyland will be use to buy BD titles. 5000 Yen for Disney entrance = 2 BD Movies ;)
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Coming to Blu-ray and DVD, not DVD and Blu-ray
By Scott Hettric
(http://www.idreamofhollywood.com/images/bluray1.jpg)
Has anyone noticed that some ads and press releases are starting to position Blu-ray ahead of DVD?
For instance, a recent Warner trade ad for "P.S. I Love You" lists "Blu-ray and DVD Order Due Date."
That's compared to a Sony trade ad for "Untraceable" that says, "DVD, Blu-ray & PSP May 13th."
Sure, it's a seemingly little thing but, believe me, every word and placement on every ad is scrutinized by a team of people.
The subconscious placement of Blu-ray ahead of DVD in an ad and in a press release like the one I got today from Sony for "First Sunday" -- "The Laughs Begin On Blu-ray™ High-Def, DVD and PSP™ May 6th -- is a notable strategic shift.
There are sporadic examples of Blu-tay listed first in ads going back weeks and months (Warner's early February ad for "I Am Legend" said, "Blu-ray Hi-Def and DVD Street Date...").
It may not always be a top-level corporate decision, especially on a press release, and the adjustment is clearly not conistent yet from studio to studio or even from title to title at the same studio. And sometimes the decision for a press release may be seat-of-the-pants and not necessarily part of a consistent studio message (the press release for "Untraceable" listed Blu-ray first even though the ad had it reversed).
But, believe me, the person making the final decision consciously decided to move Blu-ray ahead of DVD. (One publicity person told me the decided to move Blu-ray ahead of DVD because Blu-ray is the cooler and edgier format and the one that is growing.)
It is no different than Sony adding the term "high-def" alongside "Blu-ray" months ago, followed closely by Disney and Warner and others (Warner uses "Hi-def" instead of "High-def"). That was no accident or arbitrary decision either.
The bottom line is that it 's little things like this that initiate subtle shifts in the consumer mindset, awareness, and interest in new products.
So that's a good thing for those of us anxious to have Blu-ray become a mass market format.
Source: http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/blog_detail.php?id=188 (http://www.hollywoodinhidef.com/blog_detail.php?id=188)
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Just how much better Bluray really is than DVD?
Providing you with further info (gathered from the net), bro, regarding your query:
Blu-ray movies
Blu-ray movies feature high definition video and audio as well as advanced interactive features. The problem with today's DVDs is that they only support standard definition and don't have the necessary storage capacity to satisfy the needs of high definition (HD). That's where Blu-ray comes in, it offers up to 50GB of storage capacity and enables playback, recording and rewriting of HD in all of the HD resolutions including 1080p. Blu-ray discs are also more resistant to scratches and fingerprints than today's DVDs, while still preserving the same look and feel.
Video
Compared to standard definition, which is the resolution used in today's TVs and DVDs, high definition offers up to six times the amount of detail.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii48/JAQY888/hdcomparison.jpg)
HD comparison
Comparison of standard definition (PAL/NTSC) and high definition (720p/1080p) resolutions.
Blu-ray movies can be encoded with different codecs, which codec that will be used for a specific movie is up to the movie studio that has made that movie. Some studios might prefer one codec and other studios another, but the specific movie also affects the codec of choice. However, all this means little for the consumer since it's mostly a technical aspect and not something that's visible for the eye (unless you are a video expert).
Supported video formats
# MPEG-2 - enhanced for HD, also used for playback of DVDs and HDTV recordings.
# MPEG-4 AVC - part of the MPEG-4 standard also known as H.264 (High Profile and Main Profile).
# SMPTE VC-1 - standard based on Microsoft's Windows Media Video (WMV) technology.
Audio
Blu-ray movies support HD audio formats and lossless audio. As with the video codecs, it's up to the movie studios to decide which audio format(s) they use for their releases.
Supported audio formats
# Linear PCM (LPCM) - offers up to 8 channels of uncompressed audio.
# Dolby Digital (DD) - format used for DVDs also known as AC3, 5.1-channel surround sound.
# Dolby Digital Plus (DD+) - extension of DD, increased bitrates and 7.1-channel surround sound.
# Dolby TrueHD - extension of MLP Lossless, lossless encoding of up to 8 channels of audio.
# DTS Digital Surround - format used for DVDs, offers 5.1-channel surround sound.
# DTS-HD - extension of DTS, offers increased bitrates and up to 8 channels of audio.
Extras
In addition to the outstanding video and audio quality, the extra storage capacity also means there will be plenty of room for additional content and special features. This combined with the new BD-J interactivity layer adopted by Blu-ray will bring the menus, graphics and special features to a whole new level. For example, you will be able to bring up the menu system as an overlay without stopping the movie, and you could have the director of the movie on the screen explaining the shooting of a scene while the scene is playing in the background. The advanced interactivity combined with the networking features of Blu-ray will also allow content producers to support new innovative features such as downloading extras, updating content via the web, and watching live broadcasts of special events.
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Coming to Blu-ray and DVD, not DVD and Blu-ray
By Scott Hettric
(http://www.idreamofhollywood.com/images/bluray1.jpg)
Has anyone noticed that some ads and press releases are starting to position Blu-ray ahead of DVD?
For instance, a recent Warner trade ad for "P.S. I Love You" lists "Blu-ray and DVD Order Due Date."
That's compared to a Sony trade ad for "Untraceable" that says, "DVD, Blu-ray & PSP May 13th."
That's because studios and CEs want to replace the 10 year old DVD format. That's the proposition for the high def format. They are meant to replace DVDs eventually. In the same vein that in 1997, the ads had DVDs ahead of VHS in their stellar billing.
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Actually SD DVDs aren't bad. Something better just came out. If Bluray didn't exist we wouldn't know any better. We would still be enjoying our DVDs and feel we have the best audio and video source there is. Even upscaled DVDs aren't bad at all. In small TV screens where the majority of us still use, the video difference would be minimal between SD and HD for us to shell out that extra dough. The big difference would only be appreciated with PJ owners who I think are a minority in the general viewing public.
IMHO, upgrading to Bluray at this point is too early. Prices of software is still high & a lot of upgrading of hardware is still in the process to fix the bugs.
I just bought a PS3 out of curiousity. Whenever a title I want comes out, I am still contemplating on buying a DVD rather than Bluray primarily because of the cost of the software. The enjoyment of watching that title would be on par with watching it in Bluray anyway. Actually, I can sell my PS3 without remorse at this time and still enjoy standard DVDs. The dilemma would be gone.
If BD software prices plummet down then there will be no contest. ;)
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The studios see bluray as a way to fight piracy. Each film has unique serial code to hamper bluray piracy. There are no pirated Bluray disc yet. Burners and blanks are still not widely available and are expensive, and duplicating machines maybe restricted. However there's jack sparrow bluray sourced DVD 9s in the market offering superior PQ over SD DVDs.
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Actually SD DVDs aren't bad. Something better just came out. If Bluray didn't exist we wouldn't know any better. We would still be enjoying our DVDs and feel we have the best audio and video source there is. Even upscaled DVDs aren't bad at all. In small TV screens where the majority of us still use, the video difference would be minimal between SD and HD for us to shell out that extra dough. The big difference would only be appreciated with PJ owners who I think are a minority in the general viewing public.
IMHO, upgrading to Bluray at this point is too early. Prices of software is still high & a lot of upgrading of hardware is still in the process to fix the bugs.
I just bought a PS3 out of curiousity. Whenever a title I want comes out, I am still contemplating on buying a DVD rather than Bluray primarily because of the cost of the software. The enjoyment of watching that title would be on par with watching it in Bluray anyway. Actually, I can sell my PS3 without remorse at this time and still enjoy standard DVDs. The dilemma would be gone.
My experience and views diverge from yours nerve. I think its high time to upgrade to Bluray. Bluray has emerged as the new standard and HD TV sets are selling like hotcakes. But the main thing is there's just no comparison between DVD and Blu-ray in terms of picture quality. The difference is huge. Audio quality? I am not yet convinced but that's probably because I'm still using an AVR that can't decode the newer formats.
Prices of HD software and hardware are still on the high side but that's no different from when DVD or Betamax were new, except that Blu-ray has been here for quite a while now and the technology has matured while prices have actually started to go south. Then there's the PS3. If you are into gaming as well as movies, and a lot of us are, then pricewise buying one is a no brainer. :)
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The picture quality for me is really far (on the really good transfers). The others puede na dvd..This is where I think studios should really concentrate, but there are so many films out there I doubt they all will be great transfers, great master copy. But I think it is really worth the upgrade over dvd if you have hdtvs and the other equips. However, I have totally cut down on buying bluray discs. Im buying the cheaper hddvd discs at the moment ;D. Last year for me was totally diff bec of the buy one get one deals, buy 2 take 1 etc. I went on a buying frenzy bec of the these deals ;D and also I get additional 10 percent discount from amazon. This year however Im no longer getting the addtl 10 percent discount and no great deals for bluray so far ( not as much as last year.) After a while the cost is adding up, therefore I'm cooling down na. There are so many bluray titles on my must have list like Ind day, I robot, No country for old men to name a few. Im still waiting for the deals ;D
The no holds bar purchase for me is the dirty harry series and the original batman with Adam West hehe.., I'm pre-ordering these for sure ;D I'm more selective now
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The problem with my Sony S301 is that it cant read my R3 DVDs but when i tested my "sidewalk" bluray design DVDs it played flawlessly--reason that i stopped buying now.
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Bluray VS DVD?????
You are like comparing DVD with VCD
This is for me! ;D
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bluray vs dvd is not dvd vs vcd. more like SACD/DVD Audio vs CD.
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bluray vs dvd is not dvd vs vcd. more like SACD/DVD Audio vs CD.
I agree in terms of AQ
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sir odyopayl and sir daigoro, both of you are correct... difference is like comparing the two... ;D ;D ;D
dvd vs. vcd
sacd/dvd audio vs. cd
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For the audio quality, it would be very hard to notice the difference b/w the two IMO. More here: http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM (http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM)
In addition, you need a very high end room if you want to notice that little difference.
I think this was also proven here by the EB held last Sept at sir Mark's HT.
Eto pa nga sabi ni sir Mark:
Sir nerve, pa-copy ha ;)
Best line sabi ni sir Mark nung nakita yung results ng DD/Dolby True HD test:
Ambibingi nyo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Palinis muna tayo tenga kay Esi....
For the video quality, it depends on your screen size and viewing distance. There will be a distance(I think far enough) in which the human eye cannot anymore resolve the fine details which would result to the two looking the same. But I would agree that screen sizes greater than 32" will benefit greatly from the resolution and fine details that bluray can give.
Just my two cents. :D
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Just because BDs and DVDs are of different generations, it doesn't mean that we can't compare them.
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For the audio quality, it would be very hard to notice the difference b/w the two IMO. More here: http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM (http://www.hemagazine.com/node/Dolby_TrueHD_DTS-MA_versus_Uncompressed_PCM)
In addition, you need a very high end room if you want to notice that little difference.
I think this was also proven here by the EB held last Sept at sir Mark's HT.
Eto pa nga sabi ni sir Mark:
Sir nerve, pa-copy ha ;)
For the video quality, it depends on your screen size and viewing distance. There will be a distance(I think far enough) in which the human eye cannot anymore resolve the fine details which would result to the two looking the same. But I would agree that screen sizes greater than 32" will benefit greatly from the resolution and fine details that bluray can give.
Just my two cents. :D
QFT
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probably the difference between bluray and dvd will be apparent in TVs that have the highest definition and resolution...t think ::) ???
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probably the difference between bluray and dvd will be apparent in TVs that have the highest definition and resolution...t think ::) ???
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Not necessary the highest definition and resolution, you can fully appreciate the difference between bluray and dvd in LCD or plasma capable of displaying at least 720p.
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The difference is noticeable but considering the low price of DVDs these days, I just can't force myself to buy more Blu-Ray discs.
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I'd say VERY LOW PRICES.. But for the big popcorn movies, BluRay is a must..
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Not necessary the highest definition and resolution, you can fully appreciate the difference between bluray and dvd in LCD or plasma capable of displaying at least 720p.
Particularly noticeable for 50" and larger displays at a resolution of 1080p..
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probably the difference between bluray and dvd will be apparent in TVs that have the highest definition and resolution...t think ::) ???
I'm using a 32" hd ready lcd and I must say that there is a very significant improvement over upscaled SD. ;) I'm sure that the differences will be more apparent in fullHD sets and bigger screens. :)
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Particularly noticeable for 50" and larger displays at a resolution of 1080p..
Agree to larger screen sizes that definition are quite noticeable. I have the Sony SXRD Bravia and it offers full HD 1080p.
High Definition (Bluray) is the future of Home entertainment. BD players are bound to get cheaper in a couple of years. DVD is already 20 years old. Its just a matter of time that the market will have acceptance. The emergence of pirated DVDs is the reason why both movie outlets and manufacturers support this format.
Bluray, as of this time cannot be cracked yet.
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I can discern the BD pq on my HDTV 720p at 42" size so you can imagine the 1080p at a 50" screen & above...whoa all I can say it's HD nirvana! :D
Can't wait to get my very own 1080p HDTV in the future.
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Bluray, as of this time cannot be cracked yet.
bd+, the copy protection being used by bluray has been cracked a year ago by slysoft with their anydvd hd program. but the thing with bd+ is they can change the security key or update so to speak through patches but slysoft has just cracked the new revision a few days ago. this was the reason how sony was able to get some of the studios to support the format (+ the money they paid) because hddvd did not have this upgradable security concept, and this was readily cracked by the same slysoft team even before they cracked bd+.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/179/1050179/slysoft-re-cracks-bd- (http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/179/1050179/slysoft-re-cracks-bd-)
i think the difference with this era is transferring these to jack sparrow bds is harder because of this security patches. that is why hardware now are full of firmware upgrades for people to update their machines to be able to play the new discs with these new patches. remember some newer bd releases that were having problems with some older bd players etc. this is the result of this on going battle. but what slysoft has done is to give "wise" people the chance to rip bds and get the hd file which is now the norm and readily available in the net.
sony to be honest is really fighting a losing battle, but you can't blame them for trying. its a business. ;)
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Can't wait to get my very own 1080p HDTV in the future.
Same here. A 40" would be fine by me. :) ;D
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Same here. A 40" would be fine by me. :) ;D
The cost of buying a 40" HDTV 3 years ago is the same or even cheaper than the 50" size nowdays.
jojitv, if you go fullHD 1080p, try to go all out for a 50" even you will have to save longer.... :D
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The cost of buying a 40" HDTV 3 years ago is the same or even cheaper than the 50" size nowdays.
jojitv, if you go fullHD 1080p, try to go all out for a 50" even you will have to save longer.... :D
+1 sir paul. bigger the better!
go go go brader jojit! ;D ;D ;D
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The cost of buying a 40" HDTV 3 years ago is the same or even cheaper than the 50" size nowdays.
jojitv, if you go fullHD 1080p, try to go all out for a 50" even you will have to save longer.... :D
+1 sir paul. bigger the better!
go go go brader jojit! ;D ;D ;D
How I would love to have a 50" screen. But I'm afraid my rack will not be able to handle a tv that big. But who knows? If the prices continue to drop, we might be able to afford the bigger screens. I'll just replace the rack along with the TV. ;D ;D ;D
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How I would love to have a 50" screen. But I'm afraid my rack will not be able to handle a tv that big. But who knows? If the prices continue to drop, we might be able to afford the bigger screens. I'll just replace the rack along with the TV. ;D ;D ;D
hehehe. yan ang right decision brader! ;D
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hehehe. yan ang right decision brader! ;D
I have a 37" 1080i and I was already satisfied. But when I saw a preview of what it was like with a 50" screen, I nearly cried... hahaha. :)
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If the prices continue to drop, we might be able to afford the bigger screens. ;D
Count me in...I'm planning to get a new HDTV 50" in year 2010...provided the price would meet my "low budget" ;D
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I have a 37" 1080i and I was already satisfied. But when I saw a preview of what it was like with a 50" screen, I nearly cried... hahaha. :)
Hahaha. ;D
Count me in...I'm planning to get a new HDTV 50" in year 2010...provided the price would meet my "low budget" ;D
Let's just hope for the best ;). Those 42" plasma prices are really tempting. ;D
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I have a 37" 1080i and I was already satisfied. But when I saw a preview of what it was like with a 50" screen, I nearly cried... hahaha. :)
Yes i know what you mean, even the perception of sound becomes different just because of the bigger image. Mas enveloping and dating!
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I have a 46 incher, bought from last year and already I find it small (I'm not bragging but small to see the big diff of bd and dvd). The prices of the 50 incher and above are really just too much for me at that time. It really pays to wait and have patience. I did not have patience bec I already have the hddvds and blu-rays (was watching on 32 incher)and really want to enjoy them "now." The itch was just too much. ;D I don't know, but there are really some dvds that really look hidef to me on my tv ;D. I'm one of the dvd advocates that is really saying there is not much difference on some movies :D. Especially the recent jack sparrow ones where I swear they really look good, like hidef talaga ;D (I'm not promoting piracy, just stating reality of whats available out there ;D). This is where the "good enough" comes in I guess. I sit around 8 plus feet from my tv.
Anyway I was at ansons trinoma last week and I was at the counter when I noticed their 42 inch pioneer kuro playing Daredevil. From where Im standing (from the counter), which is around 10 to 12 feet ata, man it really look like hidef. I was so stunned that I went to check out what player they have and what connections. Its just a progressive player. Tuloy I wanted to buy that movie sa viva just to check it out. It could be the magnificent kuro, or the viewing distance. But I think they all came into play. I told my wife to check it out and she just ignore me bec. she knows I'm trying to convince her on a new tv or a bigger tv ;D
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I have a 46 incher, bought from last year and already I find it small (I'm not bragging but small to see the big diff of bd and dvd). The prices of the 50 incher and above are really just too much for me at that time. It really pays to wait and have patience. I did not have patience bec I already have the hddvds and blu-rays (was watching on 32 incher)and really want to enjoy them "now." The itch was just too much. ;D I don't know, but there are really some dvds that really look hidef to me on my tv ;D. I'm one of the dvd advocates that is really saying there is not much difference on some movies :D. Especially the recent jack sparrow ones where I swear they really look good, like hidef talaga ;D (I'm not promoting piracy, just stating reality of whats available out there ;D). This is where the "good enough" comes in I guess. I sit around 8 plus feet from my tv.
Anyway I was at ansons trinoma last week and I was at the counter when I noticed their 42 inch pioneer kuro playing Daredevil. From where Im standing (from the counter), which is around 10 to 12 feet ata, man it really look like hidef. I was so stunned that I went to check out what player they have and what connections. Its just a progressive player. Tuloy I wanted to buy that movie sa viva just to check it out. It could be the magnificent kuro, or the viewing distance. But I think they all came into play. I told my wife to check it out and she just ignore me bec. she knows I'm trying to convince her on a new tv or a bigger tv ;D
Hehehe, sir raymond, hindi nag work ang plan m for convincing your wife. Anyway, i think its the viewing distance first, then the kuro then the player and the material. For the 42 incher kuro, 5-6 feet is the optimal viewing. But i agree with you that some dvds, orig or jack sparrows are really good. Its only when you do a side by side comparo before you can tell the difference between bd and dvd.
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as i always say, the difference would be on the detail. try to compare crowd scenes, the larger the crowd the better... especially those with panning motion. there you will see much of the difference. for close ups of faces, hands, feet, legs, etc... you really won't see much difference.
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... I told my wife to check it out and she just ignore me bec. she knows I'm trying to convince her on a new tv or a bigger tv ;D
Hahaha. ;D She knows our tactics too well. ;)
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as i always say, the difference would be on the detail. try to compare crowd scenes, the larger the crowd the better... especially those with panning motion. there you will see much of the difference. for close ups of faces, hands, feet, legs, etc... you really won't see much difference.
Right. In addition, what I have noticed are:
1) Look for panning of multiple vertical or diagonal lines which are close together. SD will often have "moire" effects. Parang sumasayaw ang mga lines.
2) Look for dark scenes with a lot of subtle shading. SD will not have the shading. Parang solid black lang.
3) Look for large surfaces with a uniform color, such as sky scenes or a wall. SD will have a lot of "noise" - parang kumikislap. Good BD movies usually have very minimal noise.
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I told my wife to check it out and she just ignore me bec. she knows I'm trying to convince her on a new tv or a bigger tv ;D
When anybody finds a tactic that works, please share it naman!! hahahahaha
Did anybody see Sony's 70inch?? with the price close to 1 million, dream nalang ako... :'(
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When anybody finds a tactic that works, please share it naman!! hahahahaha
Did anybody see Sony's 70inch?? with the price close to 1 million, dream nalang ako... :'(
tell her that movies such as twilight,sisterhood of the traveling pants and mama mia would look good on a bigger tv. :D :D :D
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BD VS DVD? Don't forget also the SQ of the BD. Pictures are nothing without good SQ
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tell her that movies such as twilight,sisterhood of the traveling pants and mama mia would look good on a bigger tv. :D :D :D
:D :D :D actually tried that but instead got a 30 minute lecture on how is should be content... back to the drawing boards for me.. ;D
BD VS DVD? Don't forget also the SQ of the BD. Pictures are nothing without good SQ
Yes, i agree.. SQ does the finishing touches on the movie..without it, watching would be so different..but alot of people still dont have the equipment to maximize the use of HD DTS,ect...
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Especially the recent jack sparrow ones where I swear they really look good, like hidef talaga ;D (I'm not promoting piracy, just stating reality of whats available out there ;D). This is where the "good enough" comes in I guess. I sit around 8 plus feet from my tv.
;D
I agree.. just like this one ;)
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/samvoy/newyear015.jpg?t=1231456620)
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Hehehe, sir raymond, hindi nag work ang plan m for convincing your wife. Anyway, i think its the viewing distance first, then the kuro then the player and the material. For the 42 incher kuro, 5-6 feet is the optimal viewing. But i agree with you that some dvds, orig or jack sparrows are really good. Its only when you do a side by side comparo before you can tell the difference between bd and dvd.
hehe.. hi iiinas, ya I think its the viewing distance, I was really far ;D, but man it looked good and its just dvd :D
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Hahaha. ;D She knows our tactics too well. ;)
When anybody finds a tactic that works, please share it naman!! hahahahaha
Did anybody see Sony's 70inch?? with the price close to 1 million, dream nalang ako... :'(
hehe..A good day to convince our wives is just a few weeks away, Valentines Day, ;) when we wine and dine her at a steakhouse or at lolo dads :D ;D..forget lolo dads nalang (this place scares me bec I heard its expensive, never ate there, but heard its really really good), it cost an arm and a leg so i will save that money for some upgrade nalang ;)
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I agree.. just like this one ;)
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/samvoy/newyear015.jpg?t=1231456620)
hehe.. some others that look great imo are dark knight, ironman, kung fu panda and hellboy 2 :D ;D..shhh.. :-X :-X..thats my secret ;D. However I already have the blu version (of course nothing beats this) of kung fu panda and dark knight. Waiting for ironman to come down in price. I will pass on hellboy 2 ;D
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how come there are some titles wherein the blu ray version is cheaper than the dvd version?
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how come there are some titles wherein the blu ray version is cheaper than the dvd version?
probably they are currently on sale.. i noticed this also at Amazon..
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how come there are some titles wherein the blu ray version is cheaper than the dvd version?
imho, they are just trying the spur sales of bluray, since adoption of bluray is still low. by enticing them with cheap bluray discs, they may find some people willing to make the shift, including these people buying new players as well. for existing owners. also a chance for them to grow their bd collection. :)
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Blu-ray News!
Sony opens China's first Blu-ray factory
Set to meet perceived demand growth among rich Chinese
By Jonathan Landreth
Jan 20, 2009, 05:44 AM ET
BANGKOK -- As U.S. consumer spending falters, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment is looking to China, where on Tuesday it unveiled the country's first Blu-ray Disc factory with partner the Shanghai Media Group.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/technology/news/e3i8a272e828df3eab10adc5115a3893e3e
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Viewpoints:
9 reasons why Blu-ray will succeed
Posted by David Carnoy
January 14, 2009 2:29 PM PST
I've been seeing a lot of articles lately about Blu-ray's fuzzy future, how it's doomed, and how its success will be short-lived even if it does take off. Well, that may well end up being the case, but I gotta say, from where I'm sitting, there's a far greater probability that Blu-ray will do just fine--for a long time. And I'm not saying that because I'm a fanboy or a shill for Sony. I'm saying it because a lot of simple market factors point toward it doing just fine. Here are nine reasons why I'm right.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-18438_7-10142913-82.html
... and the rebuttal:
Nine (questionable) reasons why Blu-ray will succeed
by Devin Coldewey on January 20, 2009
There’s a lengthy article over here written by a well-meaning but perhaps slightly self-deluding Sony apologist, detailing nine reasons why Blu-ray will succeed. It’s worth checking out, but it’s pretty clearly the view from one side. So take a look and then come back and see if you agree with our tempering of that laudable but unwarranted optimism.
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/20/nine-questionable-reasons-why-blu-ray-will-succeed/
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Time Magazine's Richard Corliss, co-author of the 100 Greatest movies list, looks at Blu-ray vs DVD from the non-techie point of view:
Blu Sensation
By RICHARD CORLISS
Thursday, Feb. 19, 2009
(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2009/0902/a_abluray_0302.jpg)
... Consumers want to know if they have to buy a Blu-ray or whether it's just an incremental improvement that will soon be rendered obsolete when high-quality movie downloads from the Internet become available.
We wondered too. So we bought a Blu-ray player and watched a couple of dozen current and classic movies on it. Here are some first thoughts from a veteran movie critic (who, trust us, is in no way a techno-whiz). ...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1880652,00.html
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Recently, I've been loving blu-ray (hidef) more and more. I would strongly recommend it na if one really loves watching/collecting movies :)..It's more worth it overall vs. dvds imo on some of your favorites that you want to collect. More catalogs are coming out now and prices are getting cheaper and cheaper (14.99 or lower etc.). I totally stopped buying dvd's na except for tv series and region 1 catalogs nalang, especially when the catalogs go on sale at amazon for 10 bucks or lower, not worth upgrading to blu or coming out on blu.
For new releases in blu, I don't buy them (I buy/watch them muna from _____(not allowed dito).), then if I like it I will get it in blu..I usually wait till they get to the 18 to 22 price range, which sometimes just take a month or two. Madagascar 2 is an example, its now 19.99. Sadly, I think a lot got burned buying it at 23 to 26 bucks when it came out, bec. amazon don't give the price guarantee anymore. So patience is a virtue. ;D
There is nothing that will beat dvd prices (199 pesos or below, 5 dollar bins), but I think spending the extra bucks on your "favorites, that you will watch over and over again" is well worth it in blu.
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Am finally convinced. Seeing that DVD and Blu Ray prices are almost equal in Amazon. Will be upgrading to Blu Ray. Entry Level muna. maybe a series 3 or 4 32" Samsung and a BD 1500 or a Sony BDP S-350 (suggestions?). medyo nacoconvince na si wife e.tapos nun HT set up naman...
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I really appreciate Hidef movies when it comes to trees, hair and water they truly show detail even cloth texture.
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Am finally convinced. Seeing that DVD and Blu Ray prices are almost equal in Amazon. Will be upgrading to Blu Ray. Entry Level muna. maybe a series 3 or 4 32" Samsung and a BD 1500 or a Sony BDP S-350 (suggestions?). medyo nacoconvince na si wife e.tapos nun HT set up naman...
I think all the players are pretty good, Sony, Samsung, Panasonic.. I have the sony s350. Actually I chose this bec its sony ;D. Sony=Blu-ray hehe :D ;D.. Meaning, I think their updates would be better/faster or more up to date. My basis is the history of updates for the ps3. I think this player never had any problems playing any movies. The others are also great, so maybe check nalang with the "user experience/player" threads. If you are really decided to buy, there are some deals now in Amazon. Actually you can buy the discs first. ;D Some good ones now in amazon imo are Amadeus, One flew over the cukoos nest, Cool hand luke all at around 15 bucks, Transformers, Ironman, Tropic Thunder, Indy 4 all at 18.99..Depende na what type of movie you prefer I guess. Sa akin 12 to 18 bucks for blu-ray is great price na. Anything higher than 20 bucks, I'm really selective, or mga "can't wait" na itch, then I buy them.
Blu-ray goes well with dvd, puede naman not all movies in blu. There are some movies in dvd that looks great na. Depende I guess if you want little more detail on some or lots of details on others. Soundwise, imo is harder to tell. I just want a good enough receiver and great speakers. I think it will already sound great. Some may swear by the big difference in audio, some may not. It all comes down to your own ears, Is it golden or not? ;D..Happy hunting
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Great advice from bro Raymond ;)
there are some deals now in Amazon. Actually you can buy the discs first. ;D
That was what I did previously...couldn't resist the offer! :D
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Thank you sir for the advice. Actually am planning to order The Dark Knight and Transformers next month. After I get these. I'll surely be excityed and get a player and a tv ASAP.
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A positive development for BD:
Sony, Philips, Panasonic to create single Blu-ray license
by Erica Ogg
February 25, 2009 12:09 PM PST
Companies that wish to make Blu-ray devices will very soon have a less expensive and simpler licensing process, according to a joint announcement Wednesday from Sony, Philips, and Panasonic.
A new license will be established by mid-2009 as a "one-stop shop" for device makers.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10172042-1.html
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Why DVD's Better Than Blu-ray
We weigh the pros and cons and render our verdict.
by IGN DVD
March 18, 2009 - Blu-ray may have won the format war, but with HD DVD now soundly dispatched, an old foe refuses to retreat. Standard-def DVD still has plenty of fight left in it. In fact, there are plenty of ways in which the SD format is -- dare we say -- a better choice than Blu-ray.
Heresy, you say? Listen... We aren't trying to assert that DVD has better picture quality than Blu-ray -- that would be absurd. And of course there are cool features, like BD-Live, that seemingly give Blu-ray the edge. But when you really take an examined look at the big picture, Blu-ray isn't for everybody.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/963/963916p1.html
Why Blu-ray's Better Than DVD
New format trumps its predecessor, plain and simple.
by IGN Blu-ray
March 25, 2009 - Having soundly defeated HD DVD, Blu-ray now reigns supreme atop the home video format hierarchy. But in spite of that convincing victory, BD technology has yet to be fully embraced by consumers. Like that nagging fly that you just can't seem to swat, standard-def DVD is still buzzing around.
Last week, we made a pretty convincing case as to why DVD could be viewed as "better" than Blu-ray. To the delight of those of you who ripped us a new one after reading that article (we love a good controversy), this counter-argument will attempt to prove the opposing view: Why Blu-ray is better than DVD.
http://bluray.ign.com/articles/966/966082p1.html
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PRICE DROP!!! hehehehe
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I just started seriously collecting DVDs in 2006 and now I'm just starting with Blu-Ray. After watching Blu-ray, I don't think I'll ever buy DVDs again. I'm surprised with the difference in PQ. DVD movies looked like mpeg/VCD compared with Blu-Ray.
I just got a Panasonic 42lz80 and I can now watch my blu-ray movies in full 1080p HD glory!
I won't sell my precious DVD collection though because I can still watch them in either my Phillips 32" HD Ready LCD or my Panasonic 42pv8 HD Ready Plasma. It still looks decent. ;D
Blu-Ray vs DVD? PQ of blu-ray is many times better. In fact it's 2.25x better (1080 / 480 = 2.25 ;) )
Aren't we all after PQ in the first place?
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watching in hi-def is really a wow, watching sd-dvd is not bad either but compared to high def is quite a big leap from picture & audio quality.
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mura n lang mga dvd's ngaun pero matumal pa din ang benta...blu ray n nga kasi ang bida... :D
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Mura ba? Di ba nagmamahal na nga?
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mura n lang...may 100-125 na lang ;)...hinihintay ko nga maging 50-75 isa ng makabili ng marami..hehe..parang sa quiapo.. :D
buy one take one 450 din meron..eto yun dating 175 isa...ewan ko ba sa mga yun...nun 175 nga isa wala na masyado bumili ginawa pang 450 dalawa...parang mga tanga...
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mura n lang...may 100-125 na lang ;)...hinihintay ko nga maging 50-75 isa ng makabili ng marami..hehe..parang sa quiapo.. :D
buy one take one 450 din meron..eto yun dating 175 isa...ewan ko ba sa mga yun...nun 175 nga isa wala na masyado bumili ginawa pang 450 dalawa...parang mga tanga...
Ah ok. ito yun mga lumang releases na. I was thinking pag bagong labas. Yun pinakamura na nga 750 pag new releases. Dati 550 lang ang Viva. Pag Warner nga new release 425 lang. Ngayon Warner new releases 750 na yata.
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I'm thinking about getting my first Blu-ray player, so I'm presently doing some research.
The resume function is standard on most DVD players, but I just found out that Blu-ray players don't always resume playback at the point where it was last stopped.
How does the resume function work on Blu-ray players? Is there any Blu-ray player that can resume a BD-Java disc after shutdown/power-off?
This issue is baffling. How hard can it be to implement such a simple function?
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Hi barrister, related to your question base on a PS3:
In my case (fat PS3), yes it supports the "resume" function for Blu but not all movies are the same. It depends on individual movie if the "resume" is authored in the disc.
Example of movies that can resume:
King Fu Hustle (SONY)
Fantastic Four & Ice Age 2 (Fox)
*UP (Disney)
These movies will resume to your last played position. You may also remove the disc from the PS3 player & insert it back at a later time & day.
*For the UP, you will have to access the main menu to resume the movie at the last stop.
Example of movies that can't resume:
Transformers:RTF & GI Joe (Paramount)
Hulk, Hellboy 2, Jet Li's Fearless (Universal)
Open Season 2, Pirates Caribbean 2 (SONY)
Watching the Transformers: RTF is quite annoying & frustrating. Since the movie is almost 3 hours, hence I stopped it a few times (to attend work, house chores, etc) & unable to continue from my last played position. Each time I start the movie it will go back to the main menu. :-[
It seems both Paramount & Universal don't support such function in their discs.
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There's no denying bluray is better than dvd. I bought a used BD player from a fellow pdvd member last December. Decided to test the unit at my grandma's place (they have a Sony Bravia LCD & I still use my trusty Samsung CRT) & brought my Fight Club R3 & BD for comparison. My cousins who watched with me were amazed with the visual & sonic clarity of bluray. They are by no means experts & watch primarily DIVXs.
I only have a few BD titles but I know it will grow steadily as time passes by. At this juncture though, I won't dispose my small dvd collection (yet). These 2 formats will coexist until prices of locally available blurays become more affordable. :)
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Hi barrister, related to your question base on a PS3:
Thanks for the info!
Example of movies that can't resume:
Transformers:RTF & GI Joe (Paramount)
Hulk, Hellboy 2, Jet Li's Fearless (Universal)
Open Season 2, Pirates Caribbean 2 (SONY)
Are those discs Java-enabled? According to my google searches, it's the Java authoring that causes it.
HD Advisor says:
I agree that this is a major shortcoming of BD-Java, and I'm flabbergasted that none of the Blu-ray format developers ever gave this issue serious consideration. In some respects, Blu-ray has taken a step back from the convenience and ease of use that viewers have grown accustomed to with DVD. Sadly, there is no solution to this problem at present. Perhaps in the future, some hardware manufacturer will find a way to activate the Resume Play option on Java discs with a firmware update, but it's just not possible right now. The feature is only active with discs that are not Java-enabled.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/The_Whole_Nine_HD_Advisors/2643
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Are those discs Java-enabled? According to my google searches, it's the Java authoring that causes it.
HD Advisor says:
I agree that this is a major shortcoming of BD-Java, and I'm flabbergasted that none of the Blu-ray format developers ever gave this issue serious consideration. In some respects, Blu-ray has taken a step back from the convenience and ease of use that viewers have grown accustomed to with DVD. Sadly, there is no solution to this problem at present. Perhaps in the future, some hardware manufacturer will find a way to activate the Resume Play option on Java discs with a firmware update, but it's just not possible right now. The feature is only active with discs that are not Java-enabled.
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/HD_Advisor/Joshua_Zyber/The_Whole_Nine_HD_Advisors/2643
Since most of them have BD Live (all BD-Live discs are authored with BD-Java) hence they don't have the resume function. However, it's hard to say for sure whether those discs are Java-enabled esp those without BD Live, e.g. Transformers:RTF & GI Joe (Paramount) have no BD LIve & also no U-control/PIP.
So far I found the best in those latest Disney Pixar (e.g. UP & Monster Inc) which have BD Live but integrate the "resume" function into the menu hence there's no problem for resume playback from your last position even after you ejected the disc or off the player.
It's strange as per HD Advisor: "All of Fox Home Entertainment's James Bond Blu-rays are programmed with BD-Java, even though none have BD-Live content" but those that I tried like Fantastic Four & Ice Age 2 they all have the "resume" function. So this mean even the same studio can author its disc differently. :-[
The next best solution is to take note of the time frame or particular scene of the movie before hitting the stop button which is inconvenient esp you have accustomed to the DVD playback.
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The next best solution is to take note of the time frame or particular scene of the movie before hitting the stop button which is inconvenient esp you have accustomed to the DVD playback.
Does that mean that the disc will reload, then you will have to endure the logos, trailers, etc. again before you can enter the time where you want to resume? :P Imagine what a user has to go though if he intends to press "pause" on the remote but accidentally presses "stop". That's not an inconvenience, that's an annoyance ... >:(
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I was all set to buy a Panny BD60 this week, but I guess BD is still not ready for prime time. I'll just wait until BD irons out all the kinks, if ever.
I also thought of getting the Panny BD60 player anyway, for mostly DVD use. After all, it's only 15K for a region free unit at SnS.
But I changed my mind after my google search results said that DVD playback on the BD60 does not have the seamless layer change feature.
How stone-age is that? Seamless layer change on DVD players shouldn't be such a big deal to enable. It's an old feature, and I've been authoring dual layer DVD+Rs with seamless layer changes since 2008 via ImgBurn.
I guess BD players are not for me. The features I don't want, they add; the features I need, they remove. :P
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Does that mean that the disc will reload, then you will have to endure the logos, trailers, etc. again before you can enter the time where you want to resume? :P Imagine what a user has to go though if he intends to press "pause" on the remote but accidentally presses "stop". That's not an inconvenience, that's an annoyance ... >:(
Yup, whether the resume function is there or not, most discs comes with all those trailers in the beginning...there is no escape except for some titles. :P Depending on one's patience....yes to some it's really frustrating/annoying to start the movie all over again after each time the stop is pressed. For me, after inserting the disc, I'll make a cup of drink, get some snacks, etc. By the time I return it's ready to play na. Let's not that small "bit" of a few minutes to hinder our enjoyament for the whole movie in HD. :)
I was all set to buy a Panny BD60 this week, but I guess BD is still not ready for prime time. I'll just wait until BD irons out all the kinks, if ever.
I also thought of getting the Panny BD60 player anyway, for mostly DVD use. After all, it's only 15K for a region free unit at SnS.
But I changed my mind after my google search results said that DVD playback on the BD60 does not have the seamless layer change feature.
How stone-age is that? Seamless layer change on DVD players shouldn't be such a big deal to enable. It's an old feature, and I've been authoring dual layer DVD+Rs with seamless layer changes since 2008 via ImgBurn.
I guess BD players are not for me. The features I don't want, they add; the features I need, they remove. :P
Regarding the BD60, will the latest firmware update resolve the seamless layer change feature? If not than perhaps it's better to look into other BD players that don't have such issue. There are other similar region free DVD/Blu players available around that price range. As time goes by it will be even cheaper.
But if your primary intention is to view mostly DVD then it would be better just to invest in a high-end DVD player. Or if budget permits you can consider Oppo BDP-83 or opt for the cheaper version Oppo BDP-80 that can play both Blu & any region DVD. ;)
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Yes, the Oppo BDP80 looks just about right for my needs. The only thing holding me back is the possible hassle of sending it back to the States in case the unit needs repairs.
As for the Panny BD60, the latest firmware update resolved the random pause problem on BDs. The absence of seamless DVD layer change compatibility was not addressed, and I don't think Panny even attempted to resolve it.
Let's not that small "bit" of a few minutes to hinder our enjoyament for the whole movie in HD. :)
Sir pchin, you are a true optimist!
Thanks a lot for your patience and all your valuable inputs. I might still change my mind about BD ... ;)
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Atty, you could wait a little more for those HDMI 1.4 equipped BD players that can play 3D materials in full 1080p. I'm also on the sidelines as I'm not really a fan of Blu ray which I still consider immature for the promises it holds. But the 3D thing just might do it for me. I can watch HD movies at home anyway without spending a dime. ;D
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Well, 3D at home (polarized or active-shutter, not anaglyphic) would really be mind-blowing, if --- and that's a big "if" --- they would ever get it right.
If no BD player in the world can implement a simple resume function on a BD-J disc in 2010, imagine the deluge of glitches on 3D BD when it comes out.
As for me, I'd rather watch 3D the old-fashioned way --- in a movie theater at the malls ... :D
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I finally bought a BD player (Panny BD60), thanks to sir pchin's positive outlook ;).
For my first BD disc, I bought a Benjamin Button from Astro V-mall. Compared with the SD version, the BD's clear advantage is the stunning detail, even if my 50-inch plasma is only a 1366 x 768 panel, and even if I'm seated 10 feet away from the screen.
Benjamin is only rated "1.75 - Gold" on avsforum's PQ Tier List (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342)), yet I'm very happy with the PQ.
I'll try a title from Tier 0 or 1 next time. But I'll try to avoid BD-J discs.
I tested a dual layer DVD+R to see if the player can handle a seamless layer change. Surprisingly, the BD60 handled the layer change seamlessly, contrary to some posts on avsforum. I know exactly where the layer change on that DVD+R is located, since I set the layer change position myself on ImgBurn.
Next time, I'll observe how the player handles older DVDs that have a non-seamless layer switch.
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I finally bought a BD player (Panny BD60), thanks to sir pchin's positive outlook ;).
For my first BD disc, I bought a Benjamin Button from Astro V-mall. Compared with the SD version, the BD's clear advantage is the stunning detail, even if my 50-inch plasma is only a 1366 x 768 panel, and even if I'm seated 10 feet away from the screen.
Benjamin is only rated "1.75 - Gold" on avsforum's PQ Tier List (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342)), yet I'm very happy with the PQ.
I'll try a title from Tier 0 or 1 next time. But I'll try to avoid BD-J discs.
I tested a dual layer DVD+R to see if the player can handle a seamless layer change. Surprisingly, the BD60 handled the layer change seamlessly, contrary to some posts on avsforum. I know exactly where the layer change on that DVD+R is located, since I set the layer change position myself on ImgBurn.
Next time, I'll observe how the player handles older DVDs that have a non-seamless layer switch.
Sir Congrats, happy viewing. I think a few titles you really have to buy are Braveheart and UP. Man the PQ is simply awesome imo ;D ;)
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Thanks for the recommendations!
I'm thinking hard about Braveheart, kasi I recently got the remastered SD DVD (Canadian R1), and the PQ is very, very good on the SD DVD. Nakakahinayang tuloy ... :(
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Congrats, Atty!!! You now have a new spending curve ahead. ;D
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I finally bought a BD player (Panny BD60), thanks to sir pchin's positive outlook ;).
For my first BD disc, I bought a Benjamin Button from Astro V-mall. Compared with the SD version, the BD's clear advantage is the stunning detail, even if my 50-inch plasma is only a 1366 x 768 panel, and even if I'm seated 10 feet away from the screen.
Benjamin is only rated "1.75 - Gold" on avsforum's PQ Tier List (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342)), yet I'm very happy with the PQ.
I'll try a title from Tier 0 or 1 next time. But I'll try to avoid BD-J discs.
I tested a dual layer DVD+R to see if the player can handle a seamless layer change. Surprisingly, the BD60 handled the layer change seamlessly, contrary to some posts on avsforum. I know exactly where the layer change on that DVD+R is located, since I set the layer change position myself on ImgBurn.
Next time, I'll observe how the player handles older DVDs that have a non-seamless layer switch.
Congratulations sir,..!
That is a fine unit,....
regards,
Benedict
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... and just in case, i find this site very informative, esp with the reviews and problems of some of the BD players out there...
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/
cheers,...
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Congrat Atty Barrister for finally taking the decision (it must be a really hard decision after the long deliberation period)! Welcome aboard to the BD HD world. Nice...even at 50" 1366 x 768, no doubt the PQ will still look stunning. ;)
Currently, there are some nice tittles out there selling below $15.00
Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=amb_link_6333352_7?ie=UTF8&rs=387547011&bbn=387547011&rnid=1250324011&rh=n%3A387547011%2Cp_74%3A1000-1499&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=1A52MCD02XXPRTYPRZ43&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=355071062&pf_rd_i=193640011)
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Thanks sir pchin! That's right, even on a 50" 1366 x 768 plasma, where I suppose SD DVD will look as good as it can get, the BD is still obviously superior. One glance and you just know that you're looking at a high def image.
Congrats, Atty!!! You now have a new spending curve ahead. ;D
Thanks, bosing!
Sa spending, hindi naman siguro. I still think that for a lot of movies, SD DVD is good enough.
For example, have you heard of the "The Others" BD? They say it's a terrible 1080i transfer: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews46/the_others_blu-ray.htm
Like I always say, the player is cheap ... it's the price of the discs that'll kill ya ... :P
Congratulations sir,..!
That is a fine unit,....
regards,
Benedict
Thanks, bos Benedict! They say the Panny BD60 is second only to the Oppo BDPs.
... and just in case, i find this site very informative, esp with the reviews and problems of some of the BD players out there...
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/
cheers,...
Thanks again. OK yata yung Panny BD45, kung no ethernet. I tend to go for the models with less features, kasi my philosophy is that the simpler model will give you fewer glitches.