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DVD Forum => General DVD Discussion => Topic started by: upinsmoke on May 09, 2008 at 11:06 AM
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I've been getting philosophical with my DVD hobby lately. I've been wondering, am I collecting or am I just hoarding DVDs? Everytime I go to these sales, I act like it's the last sale ever and grab everything I could even the titles I only kinda want. I'm picking up titles because they're cheap.
Out of 350+ legit titles I have, I would say 20% are still unwatched, 50% I've only watched once, around 30% I've watched more than once. I have 4 box sets still untouched. I consider a title to be sulit if I've watched it more than once. That's been my goal, to watch everything twice but it's darn near impossible. I've tried putting a quota by watching 1 DVD a day, 2 on weekend but it's difficult. With the new titles coming out as I add more to my collection, I think it's safe to say that majority of my collection will never be watched more than once. By the time I get around to it, DVD rot would've probably eaten some of it.
My collection is just small time compared to what some of you die hard collectors have. I wonder what your ratio of single watch, unwatched, and multiple watched titles?
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collect. i only get the movies i like. i dont see the need to get every title out there, sale or no sale,
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I've been getting philosophical with my DVD hobby lately. I've been wondering, am I collecting or am I just hoarding DVDs? Everytime I go to these sales, I act like it's the last sale ever and grab everything I could even the titles I only kinda want. I'm picking up titles because they're cheap.
Out of 350+ legit titles I have, I would say 20% are still unwatched, 50% I've only watched once, around 30% I've watched more than once. I have 4 box sets still untouched. I consider a title to be sulit if I've watched it more than once. That's been my goal, to watch everything twice but it's darn near impossible. I've tried putting a quota by watching 1 DVD a day, 2 on weekend but it's difficult. With the new titles coming out as I add more to my collection, I think it's safe to say that majority of my collection will never be watched more than once. By the time I get around to it, DVD rot would've probably eaten some of it.
My collection is just small time compared to what some of you die hard collectors have. I wonder what your ratio of single watch, unwatched, and multiple watched titles?
I don't hoard or get movies just for the sake of building up a "collection." There's a ton of special edition gift set DVDs of uninteresting or really bad movies out there that I don't even go near to.
Rhetorical question time: If you're grabbing DVDs left and right only because they're cheap or what have you, what do you think that says about you and your attitude towards movies/films and television shows? If these were books, would you buy all the titles on the bargain bins? Would you get Arthur C. Clarke's Astounding Days and Merriam-Webster's 2004 Dictionary?
I have a lot of unwatched DVDs, too. But they're titles that I like. I'll get around to watching them eventually when the mood requires it. That's the key, there should be no pressure. Just be glad that if you want to see a good movie, you can easily pick it out of your own shelf anytime you want.
Just because you've watched a DVD only once, it doesn't mean it isn't sulit. I have about the same number of DVDs as you -- and I can recall that I've only seen my copies of Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan, Pulp Fiction, Hot Fuzz, The Iron Giant, In the Mood For Love, etc. only once. And I've had some of these DVDs with me for years. Does that "de-value" them in my "collection?"
For me, it doesn't. Sobrang sulit pa rin na meron akong kopya ng mga ito kahit na hindi ko sila gaano napapanood. For you, you may have to answer that on your own or listen to what others have to say in these forums. Why are you getting so many DVDs?
I apply the same philosophy I have in purchasing and reading books. DVDs are like that, and are just as awesome.
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Collecting doesn't mean having to watch every title you have imho. I have DVDs of all the films I enjoyed in the theaters as a kid and teenager. Doesn't mean I'd watch them again though. I suppose I just enjoy having them on my shelves... like stamps, coins, paintings, etc.
That said, I suppose old-timers like me went overboard when we started this hobby. I have more than 2K titles now (including the TV show boxes) but I've practically stopped buying even during sales. Last I computed, assuming 120 minutes per film and watching 4 films a day (or roughly 8 hours), I need about 10 months to finish my backlog.
So... tama na.
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Hoarding, though much less these days than I used to.
But it's still far more than what would be considered sane. :o
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Yeah, somebody actually asked me if I felt bad at having spent so much on my collection only to have its value eroded by all these sales and pirated versions. That's when I realized how insane this addiction was because the thought had never even crossed my mind.
Maybe we should start a new thread on recovering addicts. :D
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When I started buying DVD's in the 1990's, they were more than 1k pesos each. With each price drop, your eyes pop and think that you can get so many more DVD's for the same amount of money. It's a bit like the logic of our wives during sales. The price is still dropping but, like the other posters, I have quite a lot of unviewed films. My guess is maybe 250. Then you start to slow down and check reviews before you purchase a new DVD.
Having said that, every now and then, you discover a new genre and then there's another collecting spree! ;D
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Maybe we should start a new thread on recovering addicts. :D
Ayos na idea yan a. (I'm serious.)
I'll start a thread!!!
I've seen many write-ups about internet addiction, a relatively new phenomenon. But I've never heard anything about DVD addiction.
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it really depends on what you intend to do with what you have bought.
if you buy dvds without any intention of viewing it, i think that would be hoarding. but if you intend to watch it, i believe it would still fall under the collecting category.
having a backlog in unwatched titles is but normal. we don't just buy dvds whenever we feel the urge to watch a particular title, right? so i guess there is nothing wrong in buying numerous titles in one shopping trip.
as for me, i am collecting. although i am guilty of the backlog syndrome too.
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I would classify myself as a collector. I've watched all of my 300+ movies except for 2. Maybe its because I only buy movies I like or I think I would like. No point in buying dvds I don't intend to watch.
I do have a huge backlog of special features though. I'd always buy the 2 disc version but I'd never watch the features :-[
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At the beginning of this insane addiction. it was collecting - primarily to build up a library. This was already on top of a 400+ Laser Disc collection, so there is precedent to the "insanity". It was also nice to look at all those DVD spines side by side and growing.
When the prices dropped it became hoarding - simply because the money bought more DVD's. Then, sanity creeps in, makes you pause and reflect on the pecuniary side of the hobby.
First off, I always saw DVD's as an expense, not an investment. It substituted, with great convenience, going to the theater to watch a movie. At least with DVD's you don't just have to recall the experience, you can view it over and over. It also was cheaper to buy than rent at that time and pay late charges.
Secondly, the money would have gone somewhere else, probably even less tangible. With DVD's, at least we have tangible proof of where the money went. Think of them as viewable ticket stubs.
Lastly, in this insane world, this is the lesser evil.
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Lastly, in this insane world, this is the lesser evil.
A friend's wife once told angrily asked him, "Bakit ba bili ka ng bili ng DVD???"
His calm answer: "Alam mo, maraming bisyo sa mundo. Hindi ako naninigarilyo. Hindi ako umiinom. Hindi ako nagdrodroga. Hindi ako nagsusugal. Hindi ako nambababae. Dapat siguro, imbis na magalit, matuwa ka na ito lang ang iisa kong bisyo, nakikinabang ka pa."
Translation (For Paul ;) ):
"Why do you keep buying DVDs???"
"You know, there are so many vices in the world. I don't smoke.. drink... do drugs... gamble... or have mistresses. I think instead of being angry, you should be happy this is my only vice... and you get to enjoy it, too."
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That's exactly the same thing I always tell my wife. ;D
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I've been getting philosophical with my DVD hobby lately. I've been wondering, am I collecting or am I just hoarding DVDs?
You're just a compulsive HT hobbyst like many here. ;D Not a hoarder. People hoard for pecuniary reasons that often deprive others the right to have access to what you hoarded. Like when they hoard on limited release action toy figures and then sell them at exhorbitant prices. ;D
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Thanks Mr. Hankey for the translation. ;D
Yes, totally agree to it & I used it a few times na on my wife...now she keeps quiet & never complain na... :D In fact, when my other relatives ask my wife, she even advocate for me such as "So long as my husband doesn't drink, smoke, finding girls, etc...I don't mind his DVD hobby" ;D
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I think we should distinguish between a hobby and a vice. Or are they the same? What I know is that drinking, smoking, gambling, drugs, and prostis are vices. Not hobbies. ;D
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I think we should distinguish between a hobby and a vice. Or are they the same? What I know is that drinking, smoking, gambling, drugs, and prostis are vices. Not hobbies. ;D
Yes, that's exactly what I implied to my wife...DVD collecting is just a hobby not vices...thus finally she keeps quiet na. Her complaint was that I was spending too much on DVD. There's also one time I got annoyed of the same complaint hence I asked back "Would you rather me spend money on DVD or on girls?" :-X ;D
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Hoarding no, compulsive buying yes! ;D I only buy DVD's I really like but sometimes there are DVD's that you can't really resist buying because of its cool packaging (R1 or R2, Steelcase or not) and because of the sale that's been going around these past few months I've been buying several DVD's eventhough I don't have enough time to watch them all. Right now several of these DVD's are untouch and became a display figures in my rack. A bad habit that I want to remove. ;D :D
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Hoarding no, compulsive buying yes!... I've been buying several DVD's eventhough I don't have enough time to watch them all. Right now several of these DVD's are untouch and became a display figures in my rack. A bad habit that I want to remove. ;D :D
It sounds hoarding to me. ;D In a thesaurus d meaning of hoard: To store up supplies, usually well beyond one's needs. Perhaps someone could provde a better distiction btw the two terms? Now I'm starting to feel guilty thinking I'm hoarding but under the disguise of collecting... ;D
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When I was younger, I always wanted to be a movie critic like Leonard Martin, Roger Ebert, Richard Schickel etc.
Movies is my passion, not only do I watch movies I also am interested on how a movie is made.
DVD's gave me that chance through its special features.
Yes, I do watch the special features of my DVD's. ;D
During the recent sales my DVD buying definitely increased more than two-fold.
I would my classify myself as a collector(or am I just trying to justify my DVD addiction? ???)
I do not have any unsealed DVD's only about 5% are unwatched.
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It sounds hoarding to me. ;D In a thesaurus d meaning of hoard: To store up supplies, usually well beyond one's needs. Perhaps someone could provde a better distiction btw the two terms? Now I'm starting to feel guilty thinking I'm hoarding but under the disguise of collecting... ;D
Nothing to be guilty about. Unless your kid doesn't have enough milk and you are engaging in that.
"Beyond one's needs" can be relative and debatable. When you stack up on commodities before an incoming typhoon or war, you're getting supplies beyond your regular needs but that's not hoarding. But when you stack up on rice in an effort to manipulate its market prices, that's hoarding.
I am of the opinion that hoarding applies to getting a large supply of just one item for commercial and pecuniary reasons. Like when you buy all the copies of the Extended LOTR depleting market supply so that when you unload it, you can command the price you want, often higher than SRP. In that sense, hoarding can only be done by merchants, not consumers. Hoarding has more implication in the supply and demand chain.
So when you buy one of each title but many titles at a time, you're just a compulsive consumer shopping with thoughtless abandon. Thoughtless because you have no idea how you can watch all of them with the time you have. ;D
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I am of the opinion that hoarding applies to getting a large supply of just one item for commercial and pecuniary reasons. Like when you buy all the copies of the Extended LOTR depleting market supply so that when you unload it, you can command the price you want, often higher than SRP. In that sense, hoarding can only be done by merchants, not consumers. Hoarding has more implication in the supply and demand chain.
Ah I see...you make my day brighter bro...now I can sleep soundly knowing I'm a collector...not guilty! :D
So when you buy one of each title but many titles at a time, you're just a compulsive consumer shopping with thoughtless abandon. Thoughtless because you have no idea how you can watch all of them with the time you have. ;D
Hehe...agree, this will be another problem story for another day to discuss.... :P
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Nothing to be guilty about. Unless your kid doesn't have enough milk and you are engaging in that.
"Beyond one's needs" can be relative and debatable. When you stack up on commodities before an incoming typhoon or war, you're getting supplies beyond your regular needs but that's not hoarding. But when you stack up on rice in an effort to manipulate its market prices, that's hoarding.
I am of the opinion that hoarding applies to getting a large supply of just one item for commercial and pecuniary reasons. Like when you buy all the copies of the Extended LOTR depleting market supply so that when you unload it, you can command the price you want, often higher than SRP. In that sense, hoarding can only be done by merchants, not consumers. Hoarding has more implication in the supply and demand chain.
So when you buy one of each title but many titles at a time, you're just a compulsive consumer shopping with thoughtless abandon. Thoughtless because you have no idea how you can watch all of them with the time you have. ;D
Nadali nyo sir av! ;D Now we can conclude that many of us here are collectors and at the same... compulsive buyers. :D ;) Kelan kaya next sale sa Astro? ;D
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Guys, medyo OT but I'm not one to encourage anyone on this highly hedonistic DVD collecting hobby. ;D Especially when I see there are people getting hungry right in the Metro.
So if you can't help but splurge 2T - 5T at Astro or Odyssey, that's just fine, but at least, in your rush to get home to watch them, don't forget to give even a 5 peso coin or two to a street urchin begging at your car or taxi window. That 5 peso coin means a lot more to that underfed child than to any of us in this forum.
And don't succumb to that excuse of not giving because "mamimihasa lang yan." Afterall, namimihasa rin naman tayo in our expensive hobbies. ;)
Ah I see...you make my day brighter bro...now I can sleep soundly knowing I'm a collector...not guilty! :D
Paul, I hope I didn't shorten your brighter day with what I said above. ;D I do have guilt-trips whenever I buy a DVD. Knowing P199 can already put decent food on the table of a poor family.
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I collect...I don't buy movies that I don't like even if they are on sale.
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I collect but eventually i do get bored w/ it.
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I hope I didn't shorten your brighter day with what I said above. ;D I do have guilt-trips whenever I buy a DVD. Knowing P199 can already put decent food on the table of a poor family.
None at all bro, I can totally understand that. ;)
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collecting or hoarding, does it matter? i don't think so... i think what matters most is that we're all happy! ;)
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collecting or hoarding, does it matter? i don't think so... i think what matters most is that we're all happy! ;)
Just like Prozac! :D
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Its all the fun and satisfaction of collecting! ;D ;D ;D ;D
As you can see, I went further in obtaining more than 1 copy of the same movie!
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My perception of hoarders are those who competes with collectors on obtaining first hand
1. A Limited Edition DVD set
2. Store Exclusive DVD Set
and sell it at a higher price either on Amazon or in Ebay
Oh...
here is another fun thing I do with DVDs ;D ;D ;D
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OT: :o :o :o HU-WAW !!!!! :o :o :o
Ang tindi ng collections nyo sir xage !!!!!! ;D :D ;D
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Holy Cow! Congrat xage.... you the man! :o
This is total obsession with DVD variants....the most dangerous syndrome of all! ;D
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xage addiction na yan! im doin that on my wrestling dvd's (double dipping & etc.) pero unlike yours WOW! multi dipping for each film exclusivity
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whoa sir xage!!! :o
You're absolutely hardcore. ;D
Even if I had the money, I can't see myself buying all those variants ???
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Grabe thats wat i call a COLLECTION!
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Sir xage that is a nice collection of dvd's. I can't say that is hoarding but passion with what you do. ;D Next time kesa i-flush nyo sa bowl ibigay nyo na lang sa'kin kung ayaw nyo na. Pm me na lang. ;D ;) ;)
Btw sir throwback I've also seen your collection of wrestling dvd's in your blog and they are very nice too.
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Thanks...
;D I didnt get initially the point of the thread creator.. but heck. DVD collecting is enjoyable!
No offense upinsmoke, but your thread title differs from your curiosity which is: "ratio of single watch, unwatched, and multiple watched titles"
I've been getting philosophical with my DVD hobby lately. I've been wondering, am I collecting or am I just hoarding DVDs? Everytime I go to these sales, I act like it's the last sale ever and grab everything I could even the titles I only kinda want. I'm picking up titles because they're cheap.
Out of 350+ legit titles I have, I would say 20% are still unwatched, 50% I've only watched once, around 30% I've watched more than once. I have 4 box sets still untouched. I consider a title to be sulit if I've watched it more than once. That's been my goal, to watch everything twice but it's darn near impossible. I've tried putting a quota by watching 1 DVD a day, 2 on weekend but it's difficult. With the new titles coming out as I add more to my collection, I think it's safe to say that majority of my collection will never be watched more than once. By the time I get around to it, DVD rot would've probably eaten some of it.
My collection is just small time compared to what some of you die hard collectors have. I wonder what your ratio of single watch, unwatched, and multiple watched titles?
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No offense upinsmoke, but your thread title differs from your curiosity which is: "ratio of single watch, unwatched, and multiple watched titles"
Sir upinsmoke is questioning why people continue buying DVDs when they're not even watching the titles they already have.
In psychology, there's a distinction between collecting and hoarding. Collecting refers to valuable items; hoarding refers to items with little or no value. A collector organizes his collection and takes pride in it; the hoarder fills his house with uselless junk that he refuses to throw away because he feels he might need them someday.
OCPD (obsessive-compulsive personality disorder) is related to compulsive hoarding. The OC Foundation's website on compulsive hoarding states:
"Compulsive hoarding is not just an enthusiast's passion for collecting stamps, dolls, or baseball cards. Neither is it someone who likes to "tinker," and fix up old cars or broken furniture. People with compulsive hoarding syndrome may have immense difficulty throwing anything away, from the oldest paper clip, to a used food container, to an out-of-date newspaper, for fear that they might need those items in the future." http://www.ocfoundation.org/hoarding/research-articles/compulsive-hoarding-current-status-research.php
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In the famous Collyer brothers case in 1947, two men living together in a Harlem town house full of junk died as a result of compulsive hoarding. One died when a pile of rubbish fell on him, then the other, who depended on his brother for everything, starved to death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers
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Hoarder. Am guilty as charged ;D
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Sir upinsmoke is questioning why people continue buying DVDs when they're not even watching the titles they already have.
In psychology, there's a distinction between collecting and hoarding. Collecting refers to valuable items; hoarding refers to items with little or no value. A collector organizes his collection and takes pride in it; the hoarder fills his house with uselless junk that he refuses to throw away because he feels he might need them someday.
OCPD (obsessive-compulsive personality disorder) is related to compulsive hoarding. The OC Foundation's website on compulsive hoarding states:
"Compulsive hoarding is not just an enthusiast's passion for collecting stamps, dolls, or baseball cards. Neither is it someone who likes to "tinker," and fix up old cars or broken furniture. People with compulsive hoarding syndrome may have immense difficulty throwing anything away, from the oldest paper clip, to a used food container, to an out-of-date newspaper, for fear that they might need those items in the future." http://www.ocfoundation.org/hoarding/research-articles/compulsive-hoarding-current-status-research.php
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Collyer5.jpg)
In the famous Collyer brothers case in 1947, two men living together in a Harlem town house full of junk died as a result of compulsive hoarding. One died when a pile of rubbish fell on him, then the other, who depended on his brother for everything, starved to death. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers
I watched an episode of Oprah with the topic compulsive hoarding. A woman filled her 3000 sq ft home (eerie, same kind of pic provided by barrister) with various stuff she has bought, collected, or items she said would be given as gifts. It took a team of 100 people eight weeks to organize the stuff (to be categorize as keep, sell, donate, trash) she had accumulated, and ultimately to clean up her home.
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I saw this topic the morning after I watched that episode. Maybe the OP also saw that episode.
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collecting : since may specific goal ako kapag bumibili... best picture and titles na napanood ko na before na magaganda...
hoarding : basta nakasale kahit di ko gusto bumibili ako lalo na kapag buy 1 take 1 pero dapat may kasama na gusto kong title.
because of that "Amistad" dvd my wife gave me... naaddict ako sa dvds.... huwag na sana sa bluray at ht.
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Collecting: But I'm not a collector. I see a movie I like, I buy it. I don't purchase a movie for novelty sake -- steelcase packaging, etc.
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I watched an episode of Oprah with the topic compulsive hoarding. A woman filled her 3000 sq ft home (eerie, same kind of pic provided by barrister) with various stuff she has bought, collected, or items she said would be given as gifts. It took a team of 100 people eight weeks to organize the stuff (to be categorize as keep, sell, donate, trash) she had accumulated, and ultimately to clean up her home.
(http://images.oprah.com/images/tows/200711/20071115/20071115_107_350x263.jpg) (http://www.anxietyandstress.com/imglib/hoarding2.jpg) (http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-11/oprah-hoarder-3.jpg)
(http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/10/images/large/A_1_1ABags_208500_0310.jpg) (http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/dpwes/IMAGES/hoarding/hoarding7.jpg)
I saw this topic the morning after I watched that episode. Maybe the OP also saw that episode.
Mabuhay!
I guess, from this post, if you see your place/home/house is just like in the picture or something closer or worst, better fixed yourself first. Or at least if you feel/sense like you're starting to isolate yourself from other people or from participating in other activities, starting to neglect your responsibilities, again, go & see a doctor.
Anyway, for me, whether you're a collector, DVD addict, just a movie buff or a sucker for super sale like me or whatever you want to call it, at the end of the day the question is "does it make you a better/good person?" if the answer is YES, GO GO GO, you're in a healthy environment.
jmtcw
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Really? Like.... For real? ???
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Uso yata ngayon sa TV ang hoarding disorders.
I recently saw an episode of "Hoarders" on Sky Cable's Biography Channel.
And this afternoon, I just saw CNN's Larry King --- the show featured hoarders from TLC's "Hoarding: Buried Alive" series.
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Hoarding can be good. My grandfather, may he rest in peace, hoarded 18kt gold bracelets and 24kt gold commemorative coins when he was young, accumulating a dresser full of it. From age 40 til he died at age 76, the gold hoard was progressively sold or pawned off and used to support his medication and retirement, send his kids to college and still had enough for an heirloom for 6 bros and 4 nephews.
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^ I think that's more likely an investment rather than hoarding. I myself like "hoarding" pieces of paper which come from this place called the "Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas". It comes in different colors and numerical values.