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DVD Forum => DVD Releases and Reviews => Pinoy DVDs => Topic started by: bochog on Sep 24, 2001 at 11:37 PM
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May I usher ya to the proper forum? :)
Pinoy DVD Discussion (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=pinoydvd)
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Thanks Multi! You're so consciencious and helpful...
...you should consider becoming a moderator! ;)
And on that note, locking this thread down. Hope you understand, we're trying to avoid duplicates and superfluous threads. bochog, please re-post your question in the proper forum as indicated by moderator-elect MultipleAngles. ;D
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Let me move the thread first to the PinoyDVD forum and let Komikero decide if he should lock this or not.
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I think they should make it worth selling first. Better audio and video, more features and better titles.
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Let me take it another step further. Perhaps, they should make it worthwhile to produce in the first place.
I would like to see some (a handful) of the olden greats of Philippines Cinema though. But with the lousy films they used, it wouldn't look any better than if it was on tape.
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I'm not too sure. I think this topic may well be covered in this forum. It is after all, a discussion about Filipino DVDs which this forum is all about. What do you think? ???
To answer your question Bochog, sorry this took so long. To be honest, I'm not sure. I haven't bought a single Pinoy DVD yet because the titles that have so far been released just don't appeal to me. I just might try one out if the price goes down just to see what the quality is like. Our local ACA doesn't carry rentals of these DVDs.
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I hope they will sell Pinoy DVDs at a lower price to encourage us to buy them.
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I hope they will sell Pinoy DVDs at a lower price to encourage us to buy them.
with the current filipino movies on dvd, even if they just sell it for 100 pesos i still won't bite. well maybe yung kay aga...paborits kasi ni missis...but will have to wait for more better titles than see half naked starlets running across the screen ;)
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...but will have to wait for more better titles than see half naked starlets running across the screen ;)
Well, I wouldn't mind naked starlets running across the screen as long as it's something like Scorpio Nights with Anna Marie Gutierrez or Private Show with Jacklyn Jose. ;D
Honestly though, pag bumaba ng 100 pesos ang mga DVD na yan, papakyawin ko. Para magawan ng review. O diba?
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Kahit 500 pesos hihiritin ko na rin. :) Kaya siguro tumigil na sila sa paggawa ng DVD dahil hindi mabenta. Sayang, hindi nasuportahan ng mga DVD collectors. Ewan lang natin sa ibang bansa ha. Baka marami ring bumili roon. Ang akin kasi ay diyan ko pa ipinabibili.
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maybe with the like of jose rizal pwede pa. Pero with the dvd's out in the market...Nah!! ;D
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Sayang, hindi nasuportahan ng mga DVD collectors.
It will be unfortunate if this is what the producers believe. Just because titles like Ekis or Warat or Linlang don't sell, baka isipin nila na hindi interesado ang mga Pinoy sa local movies on DVD. Sana magpunta sila dito sa forum natin for them to realize that it's their title selection that sucks. If they put some of the more popular Filipino movies mentioned on this forum, tingnan natin kung hindi pakyawin yan.
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It will be unfortunate if this is what the producers believe. Just because titles like Ekis or Warat or Linlang don't sell, baka isipin nila na hindi interesado ang mga Pinoy sa local movies on DVD. Sana magpunta sila dito sa forum natin for them to realize that it's their title selection that sucks. If they put some of the more popular Filipino movies mentioned on this forum, tingnan natin kung hindi pakyawin yan.
Ala bang marketing research ang mga studio companies? or quality controllers? Linlang, Ekis or Warat probably would sell coz people would be eager to try dvd. However, the transfer was poor, picture, sound and all. If there were no difference at all, why buy when you can rent the vhs/vcd? You won't have to buy a dvd player.
Technically, I believe Pinoys can do it. Tinatamad lang ang iba or nagtitipid by not hiring quality controllers to monitor the sound or picture quality. Baka they don't even conduct research what features to include or do test screenings with different audiences to find out if people would buy it.
The titles available are horrible. But even if they release the good Filipino films Pinoydvd members wanted, they will not make a profit since there's poor marketing campaign. Movie companies seem to be content in posters displayed in video rentals. You don't see a lot of ads on TV/magazines/newspapers announcing the arrival of the video in VHS, DVD or VCD. People are not really aware. You have to make the consumer aware that you have a good product out there. Malalaman mo na lang, meron ng copy ang video rentals ninyo doon sa may kanto.
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i really want to see the old 50s and 60s black and white films...very nostalgic...not that buhay na ako noon pero i remember watching those movies on channel 9 during the afternoons when i was in grade school
may pagasa kayang ma-restore yung mga iyon?
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may pagasa kayang ma-restore yung mga iyon?
Oo nga no ... yung mga lumang pelikula ... mga tipong seven samurai ... marami rin kasing magaganda noon ... na sana maging DVDs din .. :-/
woodie520 ;D
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now that the price dropped to 450, maybe it's now worth a second thought... hmmmm... that's why I bought the Deathrow DVD... ;D one of the few descent Pinoy films on DVD... ;) at nandun pa si Idol Manoy ;D... at saka I felt a little amount of pride and joy in contributing even in just a small act, in the progress of Philippine economy! 8)
but then, sira ung disc... kaya ibabalik ko :( on second thought, with all these poor video-audio quality, booklet-less, sayang-lang-oras-ko at ibabalik ko pa bukas sa Megamall, tinarayan pa ko nung nakasagot sa phone sa Astrovision... are tagalog DVD's worth buyin???
Kiluminati2 8)
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Since the Filipino Viva titles are on Sale, I finally decided to buy a Pinoy DVD to add to my humble collection.
Soon as I saw Pangako...Ikaw Lang, I wanted to buy it since it a relatively new movie and the disc have features. But wifey isn't interested. :( She'd rather watch the comedy Pusong Mamon she said. I checked the back cover for features and noticed they put a sticker to cover the features listed there. We asked the Video City people why is it so, and told us it was a misprint in the label. So despite that this title has NO feature (not even the FREEVIEW!) we decided to buy. The sales attendant (friendly & courteous) told us that we can view a sample first to see the quality so we did.
Here's what we saw: the MENU contains (1)Chapter Selection (2)Subtitle and (3)Play Movie. The menu layout is simple (bordering on boring) while the chapter selections has moving video clips. Upon seeing the Studio ID, we could see the scratches. Not a good sign. Opening title, scene with babies/toddlers, and we can still see some scratches. We went on to the actual movie and noticed that the color is too dull to be on DVD. The first scene is daytime and outdoors and it looks gloomy and dusky. Compare HBO against CinemaOne for an actual sample. Obviously, the film wasn't remastered for the DVD release. To think that we were viewing it on a small hangging monitor on the shop.
So are tagalog dvd's worth buying? All I can say is at Php450, we still didn't buy. :(
Hope the recent releses (those with the VIVA 20th (http://www.weddingsatwork.com/familiarana/graphics/25viva.gif) logo) are better.
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on my case nabili ko na ung Deathrow kaso defective so bumalik ako kanina to replace it... medyo nagsisisi na tuloy ako kung bakit ko pa binili un ni wala man lang special features ni isa... tsk tsk tsk... heto papanoorin ko mayamaya o baka bukas na ung DVD...
Kiluminati2
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I guess the price drop to 450 is not enough to make me want to buy Tagalog DVDs. If they are still just VCD quality then I'd rather get the VCD which is way cheaper, 250 I think for the previous releases..(sigh) I really wanted to get DeathRow and Muro Ami... Maybe someday..
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Wait a minute! :o I owned a couple of tagalog DVDs. And I'm happy with their video resolutions. :) Then, some are saying VCD quality pa lang ito. Na parang may magagawa pa silang improvement. ???
Ganito na ba kaganda ang resolution ng VCD? Sorry ha, hanggang karaoke VCD lang kasi ang ipinabibili ko kaya wala akong idea sa original movie vcd.
Pero, sa mga ipinabili kong mga tagalog VCD noon ay hindi pa rin ako nasiyahan sa resolution. Then, itong DVD naman, ay kasing linaw na rin ng VHS na naarkila ko dito. ;D ;D ;D
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Wait a minute! :o I owned a couple of tagalog DVDs. And I'm happy with their video resolutions. :) Then, some are saying VCD quality pa lang ito. Na parang may magagawa pa silang improvement. ???
Ganito na ba kaganda ang resolution ng VCD? Sorry ha, hanggang karaoke VCD lang kasi ang ipinabibili ko kaya wala akong idea sa original movie vcd.
Pero, sa mga ipinabili kong mga tagalog VCD noon ay hindi pa rin ako nasiyahan sa resolution. Then, itong DVD naman, ay kasing linaw na rin ng VHS na naarkila ko dito. ;D ;D ;D
I think the video quality of these Pinoy DVDs are fairly better that their VCD counterparts but still not what we expect to have from a DVD... I guess wala na silang magagawa pang improvement since sa mga equipment pa lang in making the movie eh low tech na... I still haven't seen a Pinoy movie in DOLBY sound, or widescreen...
Kiluminati2 8)
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:-/ :-/ :-/
To Answer a few:
1. Worth Buying - Fair enough to say "Yes", being dropped off from P850(when it was first release) then to P750 (same as American Titles) then P700 (Video City Price Drop) and to date P450 (Both Astro and Video City). Note: What would you prefer a brand new VCD worth P425 or this one???
2.Video Quality- Better than VCD but same quality as VHS.
Take note the improvement on Biyaheng Langit compare to its VCD counterpart
3.Sound - Ok but not Dolby quality
4.Special Features - Currently on the market all special features are a.)Behind the Scenes(usually chapter 10 on the chapter list) and b.)Language Caption
5.Packaging - Very Bad, What was mentioned on the back package does not match the inside (see example:Burlesk Queen and Kabit ni Mrs. Montero). No Manuals included
6. Censorship - As a consumer, I am very disappointed. Normally in US and other countries,DVD are meant to be the full unedited version or Unrated. To VRB - "Heads Up!!" better take this into consideration after what you have done heavily censoring "Burlesk Queen Ngayon" and "Unfaithful Wife 2" on DVD. VRB, you are so -INCONSISTENT- Why did you allow titles like Scorpion Nights2,Balahibong Pusa,Ekis,Biyaheng Langit,MadameX,Kabit ni Mrs Montero to be OK (To consumers: the six titles mentioned are worth buying!!)
7. Rentable - Not yet on major chains like Video City, only a few Video Shop does this. VIDEO CITY, take this into consideration
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hmmmm. let me think! ???well, after ordering 6 dvds from
viva... here it goes:
1. Kailangan ko'y Ikaw: defective- did not work
2. Eto na Naman: umuulan ulan ng linya! grainy not a
good copy!
3. Abandonada: makinis ng konte better than Eto na naman
pwede na rin- may pagkadvd na rin! ;D
i still have 3 to see so stay tuned!
well, okay na rin dahil nasa disc na siya- pwede na
paulit ulit for the rest of your life without worrying
about aamagin!!! but of course it would be best if they
perfect naman! yun lang...
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hmmmm. let me think! ???well, after ordering 6 dvds from
viva... here it goes:
1. Kailangan ko'y Ikaw: defective- did not work
Hi, Were you able to replace this?
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Hi, Were you able to replace this?
I asked them to send me a new one, but viva says- all
of the "kailangan ko'y ikaw" might be defective, so
they say get a different one...so i re-order death row
na lang! nabitin pa tuloy ako sa "kailangan" :-/
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6. Censorship - As a consumer, I am very disappointed. Normally in US and other countries,DVD are meant to be the full unedited version or Unrated. To VRB - "Heads Up!!" better take this into consideration after what you have done heavily censoring "Burlesk Queen Ngayon" and "Unfaithful Wife 2" on DVD. VRB, you are so -INCONSISTENT- Why did you allow titles like Scorpion Nights2,Balahibong Pusa,Ekis,Biyaheng Langit,MadameX,Kabit ni Mrs Montero to be OK (To consumers: the six titles mentioned are worth buying!!)
Take note that the titles you mentioned as worth buying were released before there were a new set of VRB officers so we can say that the previous set were more permissive compared to the current sent when BQN and UW2 where produced for DVD.
Might as well buy Balahibong Pusa. ;D
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Take note that the titles you mentioned as worth buying were released before there were a new set of VRB officers so we can say that the previous set were more permissive compared to the current sent when BQN and UW2 where produced for DVD.
Might as well buy Balahibong Pusa. ;D
Nice input Viper, It helps me understand and whom not to blame. :)
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I asked them to send me a new one, but viva says- all
of the "kailangan ko'y ikaw" might be defective, so
they say get a different one...so i re-order death row
na lang! nabitin pa tuloy ako sa "kailangan" :-/
I am not sure what specific thread here, but I heard that there was also a problem on Deathrow DVD..
Take note that the titles you mentioned as worth buying were released before there were a new set of VRB officers so we can say that the previous set were more permissive compared to the current sent when BQN and UW2 where produced for DVD.
Might as well buy Balahibong Pusa. ;D
But howcome Balahibong Pusa & Madame X were OK
Both were the same or even later released from BQ & UW2
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Even at P450, there really is not much choice for collecting or entertainment. Look at the selection of Pinoy movies, lots of pathetic romantic comedies (Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw anyone?), ugly looking action flicks, too many bold movies, etc.
Even if the price goes down to P200, I'm still not convinced. I may sound unpatriotic but my view is this...I'm a very hard DVD collector to satisfy, especially when it comes to Tagalog films.
A Jose Rizal DVD would be a convincing purchase, especially if it features a lot of extras and stuff.
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If there is a champoy or john&marsha best of dvd, i would surely get it if only for nostalgia. Theres no patriotism involved here. I do not expect a digitally mastered copy but a medium through which to relive the past.
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But howcome Balahibong Pusa & Madame X were OK
Both were the same or even later released from BQ & UW2
You got me there! ::)
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Maybe when they were doing the conversion, the only prints that were available were the censored ones (nawala, nasira, ninakaw, o nagkalat na kung saan-saan yung mga complete prints). Or baka nawala na talaga totally yung original film stock so yung natira na lang is the video master for the cable TV version (kaya censored).
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does anyone have aforementioned local pinoy dvd's? i know in terms of special features they only have behind-the-scenes garbage, but i was wondering about the resolution. is it pretty good, or just a notch above 70-peso vcd's? i was thinking of buying ekis but i don't know if it's worth the price kse.
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As posted by DVDGurl in another thread:
I finally found a rental shop that carries a few Tagalog DVDs. After consulting with Phoebus who advised against seeing Ekis and Warat, I eventually settled on Ang Kabit ni Mrs Montero[/color]. I'll let you know how it goes, and will check what Region it is, as well as the quality/clarity of the transfer.
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Okay, I just popped in the DVD. I won't have time till late tonight to watch the film itself, but here's the gist of what you were waiting to hear:
Region: All-region. On the disc there's the standard region icon, but instead of "1" or "3" is the word "ALL".
Video transfer: Ugh. Grainy, fuzzy, washed out colors. Think: Fox Lorber or Ocean Shores.
Extras: Trailer and Making-of. Again, unrestored and pang-TV quality.
Frankly, I'm disappointed (at first look, at least). I hope the movie itself will make it worth a recommendation to purchase the DVD.
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Blecchh. :P Rent one before buying so you'll see what I mean. But if you're a fan of the movie, then the video transfer quality shouldn't stop you. Just don't expect anything spectacular in terms of resolution, that's all.
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What you see in the theater is what you get in a DVD. Don't expect some miracle to happen just because it is mastered to DVD.
Pero naniniwala ako na, sa ngayon ay subok pa lang ang mga Pinoy DVD. Inaalam pa siguro nila kung gaano kalaki ang market bago nila pag desisyunan kung itutuloy nila ang paggawa ng DVD format.
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I guess the substandard quality stems from the mentality that Pinoys aren't that picky in terms of movies...or any consumer products for that matter. We really don't have a choice.
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I'm sure kahit na hindi masyado maganda ang sound and picture quality basta gawin lang nilang DIRECTOR'S CUT siguradong patok ang sales. Tutal ang mga bold films for ADULTS e di kumpletuhin na. It will be worth the money. Agree? ;D
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magaling ang panukala mo. tiyak na bibili ako kapag Director's cut.
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I just bought Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw & Dahil May Isang Ikaw as birthday gifts for a friend. Before giving it to her, I couldn't help but to preview the disc and all I can say that aside from the DVD Menu and the features (meron pa pala?) I could have sworn that I bought VCDs and not DVDs.
Pinoy DVDs are only good as gift ideas and are not manufactured with collectors in mind.
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Same observation for WARAT.
I too strongly suggest you rent it out or borrow it first before buying so you know what we mean.
Kahit na mga R1 eh ang dami kong gustong bilhin but after borrowing/renting it eh I realized na di ko na siya type bilhin - take note na R1 DVDs na ito, some Criterion, some UEs, some CE, some SE and other are the regular ones.
Kung type mo nga ang movie talaga eh why not but at least renting it out first will present you its true form. Para no expectations ka rin considering na DVD format siya. The advantage though is you cannot expect them to come out with UEs, CEs, SEs, Infinifilm, and Criterion for some time at least, thus forcing you to change you current copy.
Basta rent or borrow muna bago bili para walang sisi.
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I think we cannot expect the quality of noypi DVDs to get better for old films. The master copy is the general problem - kung pangit ang master, pangit din ang copy. We cannot expect the local films to invest on digital improvements like what they do sa US films as they already have the equipment and technology plus nababawi nila sa sales, unlike dito, hindi mo na nga mababawi, may lalabas pang piratang version.
But with the growing demand for better quality, I guess the newer films, while the quality is good pa, will be converted na into digital format, plus, they will reconsider storage practices for the master copy - para mas ma-preserve.
Sana nga one day we will see a R1 type na nopyi DVD release.
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Ang alam ko they make video after showing the film. Usually gasgas na yung film master and kung mahina yung film na gamit puro dropouts na yon. If the quality is poor usually VCD version nalang para mas mura. I hope they can improve there quality.
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maybe we can start a foundation to the restoration of filipino classic films? has anybody looked into this?
or better yet maybe we can send some of our filipino classic films (pero kailangan with subtitle) to criterion...so pag nagustohan niya..eh wow! a pinoy criterion dvd edition :D
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Mababaw lang naman ako. Okey na sa akin ang mga pinoy dvd na nasa collection ko. Lalo na kung iisipin ko na napakabata pa ng pinoy movies para pumasok sa DVD o sa digital form. Gaganda rin siguro yan. Pagdating ng panahon.
Kung iisipin kasi. Sa production pa lamang ng mga pinoy movies, mahina na ang quality nito[audio and video] Kapag napanood mo pa lang sa sine. Alam mo na ang product ay para lang sa pang kasalukuyan. And they don't care about the future of the movie itself. Kahit maganda ang movie at memorable. Sa usapan na lang lahat yun naaalala. Pero kung gusto mo pang mapanood uli,say ten or twenty years from now. Mapapanood mo pa kaya uli yun o makakakita ka pa ng decent copy? Tama nga, dapat habang bago pa ang mga movie o maganda pa ang master copy. Dapat ay i-archive na ito into digital. Para maging madali o maging available ito sa mga gustong makapanood.
BTW, may alam ba kayong pinoy movie na surround sound?
One thing for sure, there's a vast space for pinoy movie to improve. Sana isa ito sa mga concern nila.
Baka, hindi magtagal, makaisip ang mga members ng Pinoy DVD na mag produce ng sarili nilang movie. At magulat na lang ang mga movie company. Alam kong marami dito ay may kaalaman sa movie production. Kaya hindi malayong mangyari yun.
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Its hard for our movie companies to invest on good equipments. Its so expensive and the market is small. It can be the other way around, produce good movies and the market will grow but I doubt if they are willing to take the risk. Soon technology will be affordable and we will see Pinoy movies on DVD's but we really have to wait.By that time Hollywood is already using a different format. Like before Tagalog CD's are very rare, now almost everyone is using CD even the Pirates while in other countries DVD-audio na.
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Only a few Pinoy films are worth collecting on the DVD format. Muro Ami is one. Yamacrapa would be good on DVD.
But in most cases, NO. Just look at how pathetic Pinoy movies are when it comes to quality. Titles like:
Ikaw Lamang Hanggang Ngayon
Balahibong Pusa
Kailangan Ko'y Ikaw
Pangako Ikaw Lang
Scorpio Nights 2
Warat
Quality is what makes a film, not the big names of stars.
That is my concern.
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well, for now it is NOT worth BUYING nor collecting but it is worth watching! :D
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Still the same case when it comes to WATCHING. There are only a few worth watching while the rest are worth ignoring.
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well, for now it is NOT worth BUYING nor collecting but it is worth watching! :D
Is it ? I never noticed.
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Still the same case when it comes to WATCHING. There are only a few worth watching while the rest are worth ignoring.
well like i said for me it is worth watching dahil mahilig ako ng tagalog! mababaw lang ako, makapanood lang ako ng tagalog parang nasa pilipinas na ako! yun lang po! ;)
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Is it ? I never noticed.
Well for me I appreciate everything I watched lalo na kung tagalog! so kanya kanyang forte lang yan... ;)
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YES!
Because we are Filipinos and we should be proud we are the best! We are not losers like those damned Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, and other nationalities who would dare degrade us!
Yes buying Tagalog DVDs mean support not only for our local industry but also for our country!
Buy Pinoy DVDs ONLY!
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Buy Pinoy DVDs ONLY!
Huh? Why?
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YES!
Because we are Filipinos and we should be proud we are the best! We are not losers like those damned Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, and other nationalities who would dare degrade us!
Yes buying Tagalog DVDs mean support not only for our local industry but also for our country!
Buy Pinoy DVDs ONLY!
I'm proud to be a Filipino! But that alone won't convince me to spend my hard earn $$ to a so called "DVD", when in reality it's not!
That's why it's a shame that Pinoy DVD's can't compete with the rest of the world!
Specially when we know darn well that we are capable of such feat.
I guess it all boils down to money!
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for me right now no, but maybe in the near future those whose doing it will gonna improve the content and quality of the movie in the dvd. its just base sa first movie in dvd that i watch which is sharons pagdating ng panahon.the story of the movie is okay and funny but its not just like the english movie that i watch that got a
lot of features in the movie and those set up languages.
but maybe someday will gonna improve but at least better than the vcd ;)
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YES!
Because we are Filipinos and we should be proud we are the best! We are not losers like those damned Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, and other nationalities who would dare degrade us!
Yes buying Tagalog DVDs mean support not only for our local industry but also for our country!
Buy Pinoy DVDs ONLY!
Uhm... hate to break this to you, dude, but Pinoy movies are one of the worst in Asia. We're lucky to have a good movie out at least once every three years. Not even a truckload of DVDs and the best technology can change art and talent.
I thought Toro was good, despite the bad publicity. It had a great story and believable characters. Of course, there was the sex every 10 minutes....
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hey Dan ;D,
Check out the Film and TV forum. There are Pinoy movie threads over there. Thought you might want to join in the fun.
utoy
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Just saw the Ekis DVD (hiniram ko lang), then Warat, Balahibong Pusa, Muro-Ami... (take note na hinihiram ko lang ito)
Walang Kuwenta!!!! Packaging sucks, the DVD contents suck, no deleted scenes, no redeeming features... mas mabuti pa na wag na silang gumawa ng DVDs kung below average ang quality - lugi lang sila sa production. These guys (Viva, etc) should hire people who really love DVD's and know how to make a good DVD (siguro PinoyDVD members) - kasi yung mga DVD's nila is just like their VCDs pero slapped in one disc with very minimal features! Ano ba naman yan!
The reason why people collect DVD is better quality and collectibility - and sad to say, kahit orig yung ginagawa nilang DVDs - mukha pa rin pirated due to the poor quality.
Local DVD makers should do this:
1. Hire a good art director / graphic artist (the packaging is the first thing people see)
2. Add and shoot more contents exclusive to DVD - would'nt hurt to sneak in storyboards (kung uso yun sa paggawa ng local movie - sa advertising storyboards is a must), bloopers, deleted scenes (maureen larizabal's nudity sa unfaithful wife 2), commentaries, director's cut. I was hoping Muro Ami to have a good showing... pero blech - sayang yung movie, saming talaga yung DVD.
3. Great marketing. Do not blame the pirates. Do not blame the economy. Pinoys will buy orig DVDs if they see that it's worth their money. P450 is a great price, see if you can come up with gimmicks - tie up with magazines like FHM and give them a "sampler" DVD para patakamin ang mga pinoys who own a DVD that pinoy DVD's have an "oomf" factor. It all boils down to marketing - the problem with most companies is that they hire marketing people who have no love for the stuff they are promoting ----"must" dapat sa DVD marketers to own a DVD and a full understanding of the DVD market - not just any cum laude - but a video and DVD buff.
Hah, my 2 cents worth. I'm a graphic designer kasi and sometimes, I want to give my portfolio to these companies and tell them I'll do their inserts and packaging for free - just to make their DVDs look appealing.
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Rei: you are HIRED! ;D ;)
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AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT to do that?Since when did local film productions actually spent time and money to make their products better?YOU SEE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN and its crap...then you expect the dvds to have the same care and attention that their european and asian counterparts are known to do. COME ON, wake up and smell the dead cat.The philosophy of a local producer is this. Make a film the cheapest way possible and then criss your fingers and hope that the filipino idiot wouldnt notice.In that sentence did you divine, " oh yeah and the dvds should have a neat menu with a dazzling 3d computer animated icon floating around somewhere. 5.1 surround tracks and a running commentary by the director who doesnt even know the difference between a wideshot and a close-up is. IF YOU PLANT AN APPLE SEED...DONT EXPECT AN ORANGE TREE TO COME OUT.
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AND WHY WOULD THEY WANT to do that?Since when did local film productions actually spent time and money to make their products better?YOU SEE IT ON THE BIG SCREEN and its crap...then you expect the dvds to have the same care and attention that their european and asian counterparts are known to do. COME ON, wake up and smell the dead cat.The philosophy of a local producer is this. Make a film the cheapest way possible and then criss your fingers and hope that the filipino idiot wouldnt notice.In that sentence did you divine, " oh yeah and the dvds should have a neat menu with a dazzling 3d computer animated icon floating around somewhere. 5.1 surround tracks and a running commentary by the director who doesnt even know the difference between a wideshot and a close-up is. IF YOU PLANT AN APPLE SEED...DONT EXPECT AN ORANGE TREE TO COME OUT.
A pipe dream, yeah. But the reason kaya di umaasenso ang majority of the Filipinos is their contentment on what they have... ika nga nila "puwede na iyan" - i do care about quality - working in advertising - i have discovered ways to make something beautiful in a minimum budget - creativity lang ang kailangan. You don't really need a big budget (well, the bigger, the better) to fill your DVD with neat stuff - like they say: find a guy dedicated to this craft and he will take this to the next level... I still dream of the day when a good Pinoy movie will come out and when released in DVD - majority would want the R3 version as opposed to the R1... the Japs and Chinese can do it... mas kaya ng Pinoy yan.
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Right on rei!Having no budget is no excuse for making a shiittttyy product!When im shooting independent films, we are low on production money but it doesnt mean that the film we are shooting is low in quality. We use the strenghts and advantages that we could gleam from such a predicament. AS THE CHINESE SAY, CRISIS IS ANOTHER WORD FOR OPPORTUNITY!
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I seldom watch (or is it hardly? barely?) tagalog films on the big screen. So by extension, why buy tagalog DVDs?
I share in the sentiments of most of you in this forum. No amount of gimmickry or care can produce an excellent pinoy DVD if the theatrical release is lousy to begin with.
But I have never lost hope that pinoys can be at par, maybe not with hollywood, but with Asian movie makers like the Japs, the CHinese and the Indians. Top of my mind, I can think of Oro Plata Mata, Rizal, American Adobo, Scorpio Nights (the first one), Moral, Insiang, to mention some. Now if only these films can be digitally remastered and processed/cleaned like what they did with those old hollowood films like Casablanca, On the Waterfront, Ben-Hur, etc., and then priced at P450, with additional commentary's and making of featurette, why not? But maybe I'm asking too much.
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I am not an all-together Tagalog movie fan. But there are some good ones that I would buy. Titles like Madrasta (Sharon Cuneta and Christopher de Leon) and Sana Maulit Muli (Lea Salonga and Aga Muhlach).
There are very few good quality Tagalog movies that I like watching at the convenience of my home. ;) I already bought Scorpio Nights 2 for the simple reason of popularity and stars Joyce Jimenez. ;D
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Oo naman!
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I've watched in TV that they had this upcoming movie Agimat in 5.1 channels. They sent the master copy to Canada to have the audio mastered in 5.1. ;D
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I've watched in TV that they had this upcoming movie Agimat in 5.1 channels. They sent the master copy to Canada to have the audio mastered in 5.1. ;D
According to their ad :
5.1 Surround for the first time in a Filipino movie ever produced
It says something when we create a movie with 5.1 surround sound and can't even get the advertising grammar right. :(
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Sa quality ng pinoy movies, lalo na sa technical aspects di ako bibili ng DVD version ng kahit ano pa mang pinoy movie ngaun. Karamihan kasi sa mga movies natin defy common sense and logic. Sa action, di ka rin mag-eenjoy kasi karamihan Hi-Fi lang ang sound format nila. sayang lang ang disc. Besides, and mahal pa...considering the presetn quality ng movies natin ngaun, siguro kung ibenta nila ng P50.00 ang isa, baka bibili ako....
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Pre, dapat dito ka na lang sa thread na
Are pinoy DVDs worth buying? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=758)
mag-post kasi yun din ang pinag-uusapan doon. :)
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Thanks for the help, Kings. Really appreciate it. :)
Merged the above topic ("pinoy DVDs..dapat P50.00 lang") to this thread ("Are pinoy DVDs worth buying?"). FYI :)
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Thanks for the help, Kings. Really appreciate it. :)
Merged the above topic ("pinoy DVDs..dapat P50.00 lang") to this thread ("Are pinoy DVDs worth buying?"). FYI :)
No prob, mod ßa®t! :)
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nirv!
kahit na 5.1 siguro yang AGIMAT pre kung ang quality naman ng video nya ay pwede lang e-appreciate ng not older than 10 yrs old,,wala ding kwenta...actually gaya-gaya lang si Bong revilla ung style sa matrix,,hehehe! wala tau talagang originality...
jerix
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I'd be buying more tagalog dvd's if there's more to choose from. I don't mind if they are not surround sound or DTS or no special features or anything. Sharon Cuneta's DVD catalog is improving but how about Nora Aunor? Only one DVD available, The Flor Contemplacion Story. Vilma Santos? None. Maricel Soriano? one - Abandonada. These gals are the Philippines most popular stars and the DVD production people are not capitalizing on that fact. Its the fans that will most likely will buy DVDs. Viva Films are successful with their Regine Velasquez DVDs. So come on Regal Films, enough of the bold movies, release your old Nora, Vilma and Maricel movies on DVDs.
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nirv!
kahit na 5.1 siguro yang AGIMAT pre kung ang quality naman ng video nya ay pwede lang e-appreciate ng not older than 10 yrs old,,wala ding kwenta...actually gaya-gaya lang si Bong revilla ung style sa matrix,,hehehe! wala tau talagang originality...
jerix
pareng jerix,
mawalang-galang na pero iba na ito sa sinasabi mo doon sa nauna mong post. sabi mo doon sa una, technical ang problema ng pinoy dvds kaya hindi ka bibili.
dito sa pangalawang post sabi mo, istorya naman ang problema. sa tingin ko lang po, marami namang magadang pelikulang pilipino, lalo na yung mga ginawa ni Lino Brocka, ni Mike de Leon at Laurice Guillen.
yung mga pelikulang kagaya ng
1. Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon,
2. Kisapmata,
3. Tubog sa Ginto,
4. Agila,
5. Rizal,
6. Maynila Sa Kuko ng Liwanag,
7. Bagong Buwan,
8. Ang Alamat ni Julian Makabayan,
9. Oro, Plata, Mata
etc., etc.
ay mga pelikulang, sa aking palagay ay pwedeng-pwedeng kolektahin (kung nasa DVD format na sila).
Alam naman natin ang dapat panoorin at ano ang hindi. Kahit naman mga pelikulang Amerikano ay meron ding maganda at meron ding walang kwenta.
Salamat. :)
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nirv!
kahit na 5.1 siguro yang AGIMAT pre kung ang quality naman ng video nya ay pwede lang e-appreciate ng not older than 10 yrs old,,wala ding kwenta...actually gaya-gaya lang si Bong revilla ung style sa matrix,,hehehe! wala tau talagang originality...
jerix
I agree.
Nagbayad pa naman ako ng P182.00 (2 kami ng misis ko) para lang mapanood sa sine ang Agimat kasi top grosser nga. Yun pala kung ano ang pinapakita na highlights sa TV yun na pala ang lahat.
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torque- I didn't have the oppurtunity to watch Agimat in the theaters and watched Mano Po at Rockwell. (Syempre pinagbigyan ang misis) Hehe! Sayang lang ang mga surround JBL speakers ng Rockwell kasi mukhang mono ang sound. So.. my question is how was the sound in 5.1 channels of Agimat? I am giving this movie the benefit of the doubt and might even give in to buying this as my first DVD if ever.
jerix- Mukhang ang budget ng Agimat eh nabuhos sa digital mastering ng sound and nasacrifice ang video quality or...same video quality as the other Filipino movies. :-\
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If Agimat would be released in DVD format...
Well with the boasted Dolby Digital it has ... and the superb CG effects... I cant wait to have!!
A possible Strom Riders of Philippines kaya ang AGIMAT?
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torque- I didn't have the oppurtunity to watch Agimat in the theaters and watched Mano Po at Rockwell. (Syempre pinagbigyan ang misis) Hehe! Sayang lang ang mga surround JBL speakers ng Rockwell kasi mukhang mono ang sound. So.. my question is how was the sound in 5.1 channels of Agimat? I am giving this movie the benefit of the doubt and might even give in to buying this as my first DVD if ever.
If Agimat would be released in DVD format...
Well with the boasted Dolby Digital it has ... and the superb CG effects... I cant wait to have!!
nirv,xage,
Warning: Don't buy Agimat if ever it comes out on DVD.
Don't be fooled by its boasted Dolby Digital sound. Yes, the sound is Dolby Digital but the movie is a crap.
From the 4 movies that I watched last MMFFP only Dekada '70 and Spirit Warriors 2 were worth watching.
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Most of them are.... but, then again, wait until all the reviews are out!
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tanong lang po...
bakit halos lahat yata ng pinoy movies in DVD fullscreen ang video format? meron na bang naka anamorphic widescreen?
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tanong lang po...
bakit halos lahat yata ng pinoy movies in DVD fullscreen ang video format? meron na bang naka anamorphic widescreen?
I think because their main clientele for these titles are the same people who'd complain na "maliit yung picture, may itim sa itaas at ilalim" if they popped a widescreen DVD into their players. ::)
I'm not sure about the US-released Tagalog titles, though. Are they full screen or widescreen? The R1 American Adobo will be out soon... let's see!
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I'm not sure about the US-released Tagalog titles, though. Are they full screen or widescreen?
Full screen...
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for me worth buying sya kung classic movies
such as FPJ panday series, lo waist gang series, mr. wong series. ERAP series, palos series.
kso wala pa noon eh ;D ;D
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;)May magagandang Tagalog movies na worth collecting!
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for me worth buying sya kung classic movies
such as FPJ panday series, lo waist gang series, mr. wong series. ERAP series, palos series.
kso wala pa noon eh ;D ;D
We can only hope... Qman!
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Ive already watch filipino films on VCD. Im very dissappointed, Original VCD has a quality of Pirated. Tulad ng Dekada 70 and Mano Po.Ang pixels grabe. Ang sagwa, halos di muna makilala yung nasa video. Kung linaw din lang ang paguusapan mag DVD na lang diba? pero di pa din worth it. Most of the Filipino films in DVD ay walang interactive menu. Meron naman may dagdag pero you have to finish the movie pa bago mo makita yung mga movie trailers and behind the scenes. Some of the VCD and DVD of filipino films ay walang nakalagay na production staff sa likod. swerte mo na lang kung may nakasulat sa harap. tulad ng Mike de Leon's Bayaning 3rd World, and Keka may nakasulat na production staff sa likod. American Adobo and Tanging yaman may nakalagay din sa likod ng video.
Viva video releases karamihan di nilalagay yung production staff kahit man lang director wala. Regal Video releases parang pirated yung kopya. And one more thing DVD ng Dekada 70. 2 disc sya akala ko naman special yung 1 CD yun pala karugtong lng ng disc 1 parang VCD diba? My friend told me from Star Cinema ang haba daw kasi ng Dekada 70. Kung mahaba yung pelikulang yun eh di sana 2 VHS at 3 VCD ang release nya, Common sense di ba? Sana mag improve naman sa mga quality VCD at lalo na ang DVD ng pinoy movies. :)
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it won't get better unless they stop using the common settings.
there's always the vacation spot, the big Villa with an Old Benz car as their service.. the night spots around metro manila..
hahaha.. how much story can you squeeze out of a few locales, really..
I mean, can't they just borrow a Sound Stage or Warehouse and create a new world in it?
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most of their special features (believe it or not) is the..
TRAILERS!! :P
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Merging this topic to a similar, previously existing thread. :)
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Filipino movies are not worth your time and money. period. :(
peace.
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Unitel DVDs are good... i think. Havent seen one really but they look good. Will probably buy, Magnifico. And i saw some Lino Brocka and Ishmael Bernal Viva Platinum Series DVDs out in the market, that looks promising. Any reviews?
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mayroon akong "Dekada 70" on DVD at malinaw talaga siya. Medyo konti nga lang ang special features.
Maricel Soriano fan ako kaya mayroon din akong "Dahas". para sa akin, worth collecting dahil baka hindi na ito mahahagilap paglipas ng ilang taon. Sayang naman.
Sigurado akong marami pang magagandang Tagalog DVDs diyan.
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mayroon akong "Dekada 70" on DVD at malinaw talaga siya. Medyo konti nga lang ang special features.
Maricel Soriano fan ako kaya mayroon din akong "Dahas". para sa akin, worth collecting dahil baka hindi na ito mahahagilap paglipas ng ilang taon. Sayang naman.
Sigurado akong marami pang magagandang Tagalog DVDs diyan.
saan po meron dekada 70?wala pa po ako nakikita nito
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well my first original pinoy dvd is "PJ: BARENAKED" .... why did i buy this title? coz in VCDs you won't get those extra scenes ;D
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saan po meron dekada 70?wala pa po ako nakikita nito
Palagi kong nakikita ito ah. Punta ka sa paborito kong Astroplus Podium.
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Ever since my visit to the 2nd Cinemalaya. I've bought worthy Filipino films on DVD. Even the ones that may not be so good, but since it's a part of Filipino culture, i've bought them. Every single film ive enjoyed, even if some may not agree.
Viva DVDs are probably the most accessible and affordable, some even selling for as low as 150pesos. I bought Babae sa Breakwater for 150pesos.
I've always wanted to buy some Star Cinema offerings such as Nasaan Ka Man, however, at 600pesos. hmm.
Does these titles slash their prices during the 3 day sales? I dont know if they want to display these titles or sell 'em.
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I've always wanted to buy some Star Cinema offerings such as Nasaan Ka Man, however, at 600pesos. hmm.
Does these titles slash their prices during the 3 day sales?
Nope. :-\
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Meron akong "DAHAS" (Maricel Soriano) DVD, and I must say, they gave the movie a good treatment in terms of its special feature. Meron itong TRAILER and DIRECTORS COMMENTARY (by Chito Rono)
Meron din akong "SAAN DARATING ANG UMAGA" DVD (Part siya ng Viva Platinum Series). Ok naman siya. Kaso it is on two separate discs. One for the main movie and yung isa naman ay para sa mga special features. :-\