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Title: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 12, 2002 at 08:32 PM
    Are you a kapamilya (ABS-CBN) or kapuso (GMA)?  Who is the best overall station?  Who is the best in terms of marketing strategy? News? Technology? And who for you is really the trendsetter and who is the copycat?
 
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    I can't help but notice the fierce competition between these two networks, each laying claim on the best television network title.  But in reality only us viewers have that right and privilege to say who really is the BEST for us.

    I know that there are people here who are connected to both networks it would be great to see an insiders point of view too, so they are welcome to post their views here.

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Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 12, 2002 at 09:52 PM
Mahirap pumili.  Sa news na lang, for instance, may edge and ABS nung nag-crash yung plane sa Manila Bay kasi may chopper sila.  Sabi ng friend ko na taga-GMA Unang Hirit, wala daw kasi silang chopper.  Pero parang mas credible ang mga newscaster ng GMA kasi yung mga taga ABS-CBN, pumapasok sa politika (Noli, Ted, Loren, Gilbert Remulla...)  ang kaso lumipat si Karen Davila and Mari Kaimo sa ABS-CBN, so naging ok na rin ang news team nila.  Tapos mas ok panoorin ang News Central.  But then again, pagdating sa investigative journalism, lamang ang GMA.
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Post by: qwerty765 on Dec 12, 2002 at 09:55 PM
Whenever I watch the sitcoms and tele novelas of these two networks, it reminds me of how pathetic the state of local television is.

Watch their sitcoms (except Bubble Gang, ha...pero Gag show pala yun hindi sitcom), nagbubungisngisan...and they don't even edit it...para kang nanonood ng isang oras na blooper reel. Tsaka bakit parating may fantasy scene?

PERO, to answer your question, kung walang wala na, kapuso na lang ako ng GMA, just for these two shows, SOP and Bubble Gang.
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Post by: Geoffrey on Dec 12, 2002 at 10:08 PM
For me its GMA ;D

TV programs I like in GMA are the following:

Comedy/Gag show: Bubble Gang
Noon time show:      Eat Bulaga (coz I like the sex bomb dancers) ;D

I prefer Mel and Jay than watching Sharon ;D because its more informative. GMA's soap is more interesting than ABS because all of the big time personalities are there...like Edie Garcia, Ruffa Gutierez,Alice Dixon, Chin chin and etc. For short, madami kang makikitang girls na magaganda sa GMA ...unlike ABS....si Sally lang yung daring doon ;D

 Pang-tapat ng ABS sino?
 ;D Nora Aunor and Judy Ann ;D

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 12, 2002 at 10:28 PM
Pero parang mas credible ang mga newscaster ng GMA kasi yung mga taga ABS-CBN, pumapasok sa politika (Noli, Ted, Loren, Gilbert Remulla...)  ang kaso lumipat si Karen Davila and Mari Kaimo sa ABS-CBN, so naging ok na rin ang news team nila.  Tapos mas ok panoorin ang News Central.  But then again, pagdating sa investigative journalism, lamang ang GMA.

   Yung pag-pasok sa politica ng mga taga ABS-CBN sa tingin ko malaking advantage sa GMA, well look at ABS-CBN News now lacking of superstar news personalities, if Korina hould run eh di wala ng natira so GMA would ultimately benefit.  But is running for public office makes a journalist less credible?  Siguro kaya taga- ABS-CBN lang ang mga tumatakbo is because sila lang ang may winability I dont think na mananalo si Vicky Morales or even Mike Enriquez kung tumakbo sila, even Mel Tianco wala na rin lumubog na but thats only my opinion.  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 12, 2002 at 10:36 PM
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?

Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel

Meron bang mga channels under GMA?
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Post by: viper on Dec 12, 2002 at 10:49 PM
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?

Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel

Meron bang mga channels under GMA?

They used to have Channel 27 but they blew it.
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Post by: ßartmaniac on Dec 12, 2002 at 10:50 PM
Meron bang mga channels under GMA?

I know they use to own

Channel [V] Philippines
and a UHF channel

I think both folded-up operations already.

Oh, and GMA also operates Channel BIG -- not a real channel though but only a large "TV" monitor in EDSA at the foot of Guadalupe Bridge. ;D
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Post by: elf warrior on Dec 13, 2002 at 07:52 AM
I like ABS than GMA. Pero sa tanghali i prefer watching Eat Bulaga. ;D
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Post by: RMN on Dec 13, 2002 at 09:55 AM
GMA is fast gaining on ABS and has overtaken them during certain timeslots.
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Post by: Courage on Dec 13, 2002 at 10:00 AM
GMA pa rin
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Post by: banzai on Dec 13, 2002 at 12:23 PM
Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
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Post by: Bacon on Dec 13, 2002 at 01:04 PM
Studio 23 ;D
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Post by: paeng on Dec 13, 2002 at 01:05 PM
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.

Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 13, 2002 at 01:56 PM
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.

Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.

    On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television.  Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability.  Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it comes to international awards eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.
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Post by: Kings on Dec 13, 2002 at 02:10 PM
Don't watch too much regular programming anymore ... but for the news, watch ANC. :)
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Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 14, 2002 at 04:23 AM
Ang problema ko lang eh tuwing umaga.  Since I want to see both Unang Hirit's Rhea Santos and MUB's resident weathergirl Angela, palipat-lipat ako palagi.  Pag wala sa camera si Rhea, lipat naman sa MUB to wait for Angela.  ;D
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Post by: demented_angel on Dec 14, 2002 at 04:42 AM
Ang problema ko lang eh tuwing umaga.  Since I want to see Unang Hirit's Rhea Santos and MUB's resident weather girl Angela, palipat-lipat ako palagi.  Pag wala sa camera si Rhea, lipat naman sa MUB to wait for Angela.  ;D

iho, hindi ata news ang pinanood mo kundi ang mga girls who read the news  ;D ;D ;D

ABS-CBN pa rin pero GMA is into intense competition nowadays since na overthrow na yung mga Jimenez's  ;D

it's the ratings that count

kaya gayahan na ng gayahan ang rival stations... ;D
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Post by: tekkies on Dec 15, 2002 at 09:35 AM
Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.

Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.

http://www.asiantvawards.com/winners02a.htm
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Post by: viper on Dec 15, 2002 at 08:41 PM

http://www.asiantvawards.com/winners02a.htm


I just perused over the site and my impression is ABS got more citations than GMA
 (but of course Im being biased ;) )
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Post by: justine on Dec 15, 2002 at 11:27 PM
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS
it seems that it is slowly beating ABS in the ratings game
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Post by: levi on Dec 16, 2002 at 01:10 AM
ABS-CBN kami dito sa bahay
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Post by: jandara on Dec 16, 2002 at 02:06 AM
 No dice...ABS-CBN! Sila ang tunay na pioneers way back pre-Martial Law era at hanggang ngayon,sila lamang ang may TFC na napapanood globally.
 Star Value?Tinatanong pa ba yan?!!! :D
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Post by: paeng on Dec 16, 2002 at 10:15 AM
According to Asian Business News, the Philippines ranks low in terms of professionalism compared to counterparts in Asia. I also question many of the awards given, especially those given to documentaries. The rest I don't bother with because they are awards for logos.

For example, look at hour-long "documentaries" produced by local networks. Their reporters talk in loud voices, lift soundbites from interviewees, and discuss what is obvious. They're very similar to Fox News reports, which sensationalize, use flashy graphics and music, and often deal with the controversial.

Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.

Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.

    On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television.  Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability.  Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it come to international award eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 16, 2002 at 10:21 AM
    Jandara may point ka dun, I think ABS-CBN is the pioneering television Network here.  I still remember before they went on the air in the 80's walang kabuhay-buhay ang TV industry here.  Today we have a vibrant and competitive TV industry.

    Another thing they pionered the use of computer graphics and animation here I remember the dragon seasonal campaign in 88 that was cool at that time and trailblazers and mga pakulo nila lalo na yung "tuldok" ad campaign.

   Up to now they are still pioneering many things like when it comes to set design sila ang nagpauso ng overhang sa mga sets, just look at the sets of ASAP laging ginagaya ng SOP (tapos sasabihin ni Ogie sila ginagaya KAPAL!) ;D  pati yung live concept or concert concept I remember sila nag-umpisa from the APO show.

   Kaya for me ABS-CBN is the BEST GMA humahabol pero I think kung gagaya lang sila ng gagaya walang mangyayari.

 ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 16, 2002 at 10:28 AM
According to Asian Business News, the Philippines ranks low in terms of professionalism compared to counterparts in Asia. I also question many of the awards given, especially those given to documentaries. The rest I don't bother with because they are awards for logos.

For example, look at hour-long "documentaries" produced by local networks. Their reporters talk in loud voices, lift soundbites from interviewees, and discuss what is obvious. They're very similar to Fox News reports, which sensationalize, use flashy graphics and music, and often deal with the controversial.

Quite. Philippine media organizations are not considered highly by their Asian neighbors.

Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.

    On the contrary I think they look up, well most of them to our media here specially television.  Maraming reasons why are media here are better than our asian counterparts some of the reasons are talent, creativity, freedom and financial viability.  Wala naman mapagyayabang ang media ng ibang asian countries because they rely on media inports like those in Singapore and Hongkong besides when it come to international award eh talo ng Philippine media ang Asian counterparts.

     I beg to differ, I think you havent heard of the other international awards the most recent (I cant remember the name of that award) was received by the show Correspondent besting the rest of Media organization from around the world including american networks like CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS also BBC.  They got the award from covering the Afghanistan takeover from the Taliban Ive seen that episode it really deserves that kind of merit.

     That is something that we should be proud of specially if you think that logistically the team was no match for the big networks like those of CNN and BBC but still they delivered.
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Post by: RMN on Dec 16, 2002 at 11:06 AM
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS



I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.
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Post by: Lex Luthor on Dec 16, 2002 at 12:11 PM
    I beg to differ, I think you havent heard of the other international awards the most recent (I cant remember the name of that award) was received by the show Correspondent besting the rest of Media organization from around the world including american networks like CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS also BBC.  They got the award from covering the Afghanistan takeover from the Taliban Ive seen that episode it really deserves that kind of merit.

     That is something that we should be proud of specially if you think that logistically the team was no match for the big networks like those of CNN and BBC but still they delivered.

was able to catch this on TV. i admire the journalists involved for their resourcefulness and courage specially when they were intercepted by rebels (not sure if they're part of the Taliban)...
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 16, 2002 at 03:53 PM
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS



I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.

   Rmn your point is valid but you see it work both ways. I don't know if you or the others here have noticed that when there is a controversy hounding the Lopezes the owner of ABS-CBN especially if its negative, GMA consciously or unconsciously gives extra air time to it in a bias manner.  The last time I noticed it was when the Lopezes decided to gave up Maynilad, GMA’s reporting is too obviously unbalanced which try to paint them as greedy.  They even conveniently did not mention the fact that 90% of MWSS loans where shouldered by Maynilad.  Plus the fact that many waterless areas in Metro have been given water by Maynilad.

  So all networks have interest, even GMAs owners have them, worst pa nga kasi GMA is owned by 3 families so the interest are multiplied by 3 pa diba.  And besides ni hindi nga sila public unlike ABS-CBN so talagang private ang GMA which is more prone to abuse.
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Post by: Sen.Almondski on Dec 16, 2002 at 06:04 PM
No dice...ABS-CBN! Sila ang tunay na pioneers way back pre-Martial Law era at hanggang ngayon,sila lamang ang may TFC na napapanood globally.
 Star Value?Tinatanong pa ba yan?!!! :D

Speaking of TFC, they overcharging the subscription abroad especially in the Middle East where most of their shows are recycle or replay ( back to back daw or producers cut kuno ). I dont have TFC at home because it sucks! Hope that GMA channel will arrive soon in Mid-East to compete them.  >:(
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Post by: claudja on Dec 17, 2002 at 03:28 AM
 Kung pambili ng helicopter,wala nga ang GMA... pang-global na ala TFC pa?!
  Ipadala mo kaya kay Bernadette Sembrano sa Wish Ko Lang na magka-cable ang GMA internationally at ngayon pa lamang...alam ko nang mananatiling...
 WISH MO LANG! ;D
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Post by: Homer Jay on Dec 17, 2002 at 03:43 PM
According to Asian Business News, the Philippines ranks low in terms of professionalism compared to counterparts in Asia.

Yeah... no professionalism whatsoever.

When I was a kid I used to get irritated when cartoon shows I watched were not shown at the exact time as scheduled (usually at least 10-15 minutes late). I expected as the years went by, they would've improved on this cause I believe that airtime is very important to a television programming (globalization and all that) especially since most of these shows were not shown live anyway...  well, I was wrong. Primetime telenovela shows of these channels extend to whenever commercials get them. To tell you the truth, I don't know when their late-evening news "officially" start anymore... 10:30? 10:45? 11:00? 11:15? 11:17:39?  ???
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Post by: X-®an™ on Dec 17, 2002 at 04:36 PM
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay  ;D
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Post by: onedown on Dec 17, 2002 at 05:13 PM

...snip

When I was a kid I used to get irritated when cartoon shows I watched were not shown at the exact time as scheduled (usually at least 10-15 minutes late).

...snip


i remember that sometime in the early nineties, abs-cbn aired several campaign slogans sponsored by a bank. one of the slogans was, make filipino time on time. really ironic, since they were seldon on time in starting most of their programs. on sundays at that time, a movie should had started at 9 pm. however, it was never followed as a variety show preceeding the movie ends at around 930 pm at the earliest.
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Post by: banzai on Dec 17, 2002 at 05:20 PM
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.
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Post by: LaserJet on Dec 17, 2002 at 05:59 PM
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS



I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.

   Rmn your point is valid but you see it work both ways. I don't know if you or the others here have noticed that when there is a controversy hounding the Lopezes the owner of ABS-CBN especially if its negative, GMA consciously or unconsciously gives extra air time to it in a bias manner.  The last time I noticed it was when the Lopezes decided to gave up Maynilad, GMA’s reporting is too obviously unbalanced which try to paint them as greedy.  They even conveniently did not mention the fact that 90% of MWSS loans where shouldered by Maynilad.  Plus the fact that many waterless areas in Metro have been given water by Maynilad.

  So all networks have interest, even GMAs owners have them, worst pa nga kasi GMA is owned by 3 families so the interest are multiplied by 3 pa diba.  And besides ni hindi nga sila public unlike ABS-CBN so talagang private ang GMA which is more prone to abuse.


I don't see your point about ABS being a "public" company. ABS is still controlled by the Lopezes and not the stockholders. Wala naman say ang public sa propaganda na inilalabas ng ABS eh.  I don't agree with you when you say that GMA is biased when covering the issue about Maynilad. It's really a big issue and they covered it well. They didn't add anything in the coverage that wasn't true. They just reported the news. Unlike ABS which always has a political slant to it's coverage.

Your comments about the winnability of the ABS news anchors is really silly. I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network. Their news programs are nothing more than political propaganda shows. Just because the news anchors of ABS are more popular does not mean they are better. Matuto na kayo. Popularity and winnability does not necessarily mean that one is the best. Just look at the 2 most popular and/or winnable political figures,  Erap and FPJ. Sikat nga ang ABS, pero GMA pa rin ako. 2nd place sa popularity, pero mas may quality. Hindi pang masa ang dating.

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Post by: LaserJet on Dec 17, 2002 at 06:18 PM
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?

Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel

Meron bang mga channels under GMA?

Ano naman ang kinalaman ng ibang channel ng ABS? Di ba ABS or GMA lang ang pinag uusapan? Maybe youd like to start another thread, yung para sa ibang channels naman. Taga ABS ka ba?
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Post by: LaserJet on Dec 17, 2002 at 06:30 PM
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.

Tama ka dun banzai. Business lang naman ang gusto ng corporations na yan. All of them have their own interests in mind. Kaya naman maganda ang cable. You get to see some quality programs. Yun nga lang, skycable and homecable are owned by ABS na rin. Kaya may naka singit na commercials on these cable networks. Grabe talaga ang ABS! Hindi ko yan Kapamilya ha! Kapal mukha nila!
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 17, 2002 at 07:59 PM
Dear LaserJet


I don't see your point about ABS being a "public" company. ABS is still controlled by the Lopezes and not the stockholders.

   What I meant by public was, ABS-CBN is listed in the stock exchange being so anybody who wants to buy into the company can do so.  What does it mean? Well if your a stock holder you can question the company's policy and even scrutinize their products you can demand access and answers from your company.  I'm not saying that you can effect change of policy but atleast you can question it and can demand answers.  I actually experienced it in one stockholders meeting no less than the CEO of the company have to explain to a small stockholder.  Ultimately thats a lot better than being totally private like GMA which I say is more prone to abuse.

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Wala naman say ang public sa propaganda na inilalabas ng ABS eh.  I don't agree with you when you say that GMA is biased when covering the issue about Maynilad. It's really a big issue and they covered it well. They didn't add anything in the coverage that wasn't true. They just reported the news. Unlike ABS which always has a political slant to it's coverage.

   Of course they did not add anything to their report that wasn't true but they did not add a lot of things that where either.  Ang daling mag slant ng news half truths are not balance dapat completohin.  Pwede kung sabihin na - sinaksak ng babae ng 4 na beses yung kapitbahay niya, period what impression would you get?  Pero if I say sinaksak ng babae yung mamang kapitbahay niya na rumarape sa kanya at pumatay sa anak niya, both are true right? But which is truthfull?

   Obviously your misinformed (siguro sa GMA ka lang kumukuha ng source ng news)  my brother is working for MWSS and he knows the facts that could have soooo easily been verified by GMA reporters but they chose not too.  They even quoted and mention that Manila Water is doing ok, pinalalabas na nagpapalusot Maynilad (Thats the other MWSS concession) now if they are truly balance is it not proper at the very least to ask or get the side of Maynilad pero hindi gusto nila pasamain ang lopez because it owns ABS-CBN? They did not even mention na 90% of the loans of MWSS is being shouldered by Maynilad which amounts to Billions of dollars as against Manila waters 10%!  Marami pang instance na ganyan nag comment pa dati si Mike Enriquez ng "Amininnnnn...!" (complete with gestures ng finger niya!) ito yung solar eclipse controversy involving ABS, now you tell me is that credible is that balance or at the very least fair?  Di na nga siya gwapo umaarte pa siyang parang showbiz reporter na jokla.

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Your comments about the winnability of the ABS news anchors is really silly. I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network. Their news programs are nothing more than political propaganda shows. Just because the news anchors of ABS are more popular does not mean they are better. Matuto na kayo. Popularity and winnability does not necessarily mean that one is the best. Just look at the 2 most popular and/or winnable political figures,  Erap and FPJ. Sikat nga ang ABS, pero GMA pa rin ako. 2nd place sa popularity, pero mas may quality. Hindi pang masa ang dating.

   I'm not saying popularity translates to credibility ang sinasabi ko lang na hindi porque popular at tumakbo sa politics eh hindi na credible that was just a reaction to one of the post here.  And about winability, I'm just trying to point out na kung may pag-asang manalo ang mga anchor ng GMA tatakbo rin yan (pustahan?) but does it mean less credible na sila?

   How about yung mga politician at tumakbo dati na host na ngayon?  Does it makes them less credible?  My 2 favorite Public Affairs hosts are Mareng Winnie at Oscar Orbos pareho kong binoto, but if I go with your reasoning eh di hindi na sila credible at propagandist sila ng GMA?  

   Wala pa lang credibility ang anchors ng ABS then why is GMA continously wooing ABS anchors then?  Pati nga si Mel Tiangco kinuha agad nila diba?  Ganun pala yung pag nasa ABS walang credibility pag napunta sa GMA instant credibility hehehe.

   Hindi pang masa?!  Nanonood ka ba ng GMA?  Mukha yatang hindi, kung di masa ang mga walang kakwenta-kwenta nilang sitcoms at soaps I dont know what masa is anymore.  Joey Marquez at sino ba yun Jong ba yun mga quality pala sila?  Isama mo na rin si Clavio sosy pala ang show niya hehehe

   And one more point during Martial Law ang daming napasarang Media institutions ni Marcos I just wonder why GMA was not closed?  Well you figure it out.  ;D

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 17, 2002 at 08:24 PM
These channels are also under ABS-CBN right?

Studio 23
Cinema One
Lifestyle Network
Myx
ANC
Lakbay TV
Knowledge Channel

Meron bang mga channels under GMA?

Ano naman ang kinalaman ng ibang channel ng ABS? Di ba ABS or GMA lang ang pinag uusapan? Maybe youd like to start another thread, yung para sa ibang channels naman. Taga ABS ka ba?

   Taga-ABS ba ako? Hehehe I wish, but I'm not I have nothing against GMA nanonood rin ako sa kanila and infact may friends ako from both networks.  Im just trying to be objective in my observation kasi grabe na war ng networks na ito eh.  Regarding dun sa ibang channels di matatanggal yun kasi part of ABS yun eh but Im not sure kaya nga tinatanong ko eh.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 17, 2002 at 08:31 PM
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay  ;D


LOL bakit naka-block?  Pati Studio 23 at SkyCABLE?  Paano yan connected rin  sila sa Meralco, Bayantel at Maynilad?
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Homer Jay on Dec 17, 2002 at 09:18 PM
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.

Well, of course the reason they operate is because of profit, else why bother?

But there are also other ways where these stations can maintain an "on-time" schedule. I guess it would be understandable for endorsers that if a particular program rates, ABS, GMA or any other station can always charge a bigger fee for the airtime (a 30-second commercial for Superbowl costs $2M in the U.S. because they know that it rates... endorsers even make spectacular brand new commercials for this event yearly).  

Unfortunately, things aren't quite the same here... and I doubt if it ever will. Maybe it's due to management decisions regarding charging? Maybe it's be because of our culture as it is? I dunno... but for sure it s**ks!  >:(
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Sen.Almondski on Dec 17, 2002 at 11:18 PM
Kung pambili ng helicopter,wala nga ang GMA... pang-global na ala TFC pa?!

Ah, they are compensating for something like helicopters, am sure they can even afford jumbo jet because of their bigger charges for subscriber  :o
 ;D Well actually , paying huge amount for TFC ( ABS ) doesn't matter but at least we could get decent shows and showtime from them and not a "tabloid programming", minimize their killing time -advertisement because i believe they have already made their profit from the pocket of viewers abroad. Yes, GMA network  is second in popularity but i really appreciate their programs in serving community promoting faith and values. They  are balance between profit and responsibility ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: banzai on Dec 18, 2002 at 03:29 PM
What can we expect from greedy corporations whose main priority is profit? They couldn't care less if you have to stay up late because the news will air by 11:00 instead of 10:30. As long as they can squeeze as many commercial spots as possible, program schedules take a backseat.

Well, of course the reason they operate is because of profit, else why bother?

But there are also other ways where these stations can maintain an "on-time" schedule. I guess it would be understandable for endorsers that if a particular program rates, ABS, GMA or any other station can always charge a bigger fee for the airtime (a 30-second commercial for Superbowl costs $2M in the U.S. because they know that it rates... endorsers even make spectacular brand new commercials for this event yearly).  

Unfortunately, things aren't quite the same here... and I doubt if it ever will. Maybe it's due to management decisions regarding charging? Maybe it's be because of our culture as it is? I dunno... but for sure it s**ks!  >:(

If the major US television networks can air their programs on time, I can't see any reason why ABS and GMA cannot do so. Don't tell me these US networks are not after profit.

Our local networks just don't give a damn and have no respect for their viewers.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 18, 2002 at 05:57 PM
Banzai who told you that?  It's not true that US Television Networks air their programs on time, they are as guilty as our TV networks here.  Infact one time Jay Leno walked out from his own show because of the extreme over time of his pre-programming.  The eratic schedules of our networks here are not solely caused by advertising it has a lot to do with programing strategy too which is used by US TV networks aswell.  :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: X-®an™ on Dec 18, 2002 at 11:34 PM
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay  ;D

LOL bakit naka-block?  Pati Studio 23 at SkyCABLE?  Paano yan connected rin  sila sa Meralco, Bayantel at Maynilad?

Your point being?  ???

I only locked ABS-CBN cause I don't like their kind of programming... and not because I have this "aversion" to the owners.  I couldn't care less about who owns what station.

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Homer Jay on Dec 19, 2002 at 10:09 AM
Our local networks just don't give a damn and have no respect for their viewers.

Well, maybe not all the networks... I think Studio 23 (which is also owned by ABS-CBN) and RPN9 do try to keep their schedules on time (well... at least on those days that I watch these stations). I don't know about the other stations since I barely watch their shows, but ABS-2 and GMA-7 really does have a problem with their program scheduling.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Dec 19, 2002 at 11:52 AM
for me GMA is the best, since it has credibility than ABS



I agree. ABS-CBN, being part of a larger conglomerate, has a lot of interests to protect.

   Rmn your point is valid but you see it work both ways. I don't know if you or the others here have noticed that when there is a controversy hounding the Lopezes the owner of ABS-CBN especially if its negative, GMA consciously or unconsciously gives extra air time to it in a bias manner.  The last time I noticed it was when the Lopezes decided to gave up Maynilad, GMA’s reporting is too obviously unbalanced which try to paint them as greedy.  They even conveniently did not mention the fact that 90% of MWSS loans where shouldered by Maynilad.  Plus the fact that many waterless areas in Metro have been given water by Maynilad.

  So all networks have interest, even GMAs owners have them, worst pa nga kasi GMA is owned by 3 families so the interest are multiplied by 3 pa diba.  And besides ni hindi nga sila public unlike ABS-CBN so talagang private ang GMA which is more prone to abuse.


Good point. However, ABS-CBN being a publicly listed company, they are  answerable to their shareholders. Also, the most of the Lopez companies need government franchises and regulatory approval so they have to be "friendly" with incumbent administration.  Remember when Beaver Lopez married Jackie Ejercito? ABS-CBN became pro-Erap. But when Edsa 2 happened, they changed sides.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: LaserJet on Dec 20, 2002 at 03:12 PM
  What I meant by public was, ABS-CBN is listed in the stock exchange being so anybody who wants to buy into the company can do so.  
I know perfectly well what a "public" corporation means. Thank you.
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I'm not saying that you can effect change of policy but atleast you can question it and can demand answers.  
You've just proven my point.  All they can do is question policies. What use is that kung hindi sila susundan ng mga Lopez?
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Marami pang instance na ganyan nag comment pa dati si Mike Enriquez ng "Amininnnnn...!" (complete with gestures ng finger niya!) ito yung solar eclipse controversy involving ABS, now you tell me is that credible is that balance or at the very least fair?  Di na nga siya gwapo umaarte pa siyang parang showbiz reporter na jokla.
Parang malayo na yan sa usapan Mr. Big Boy. Do you have something against gays?
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  I'm not saying popularity translates to credibility ang sinasabi ko lang na hindi porque popular at tumakbo sa politics eh hindi na credible that was just a reaction to one of the post here.  And about winability, I'm just trying to point out na kung may pag-asang manalo ang mga anchor ng GMA tatakbo rin yan (pustahan?) but does it mean less credible na sila?
Napaka galing mo naman. Alam mo na agad na tatakbo sila. Psychic ka ba? Anyway, I'm not interested in betting on something like that. Napaka babaw.
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   Wala pa lang credibility ang anchors ng ABS then why is GMA continously wooing ABS anchors then?  Pati nga si Mel Tiangco kinuha agad nila diba?  Ganun pala yung pag nasa ABS walang credibility pag napunta sa GMA instant credibility hehehe.
I don't remember saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS. Saan mo nabasa yun? Baka gusto mo balikan ang post ko. Maybe you didn't understand what i posted.
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  Hindi pang masa?!  Nanonood ka ba ng GMA?  Mukha yatang hindi, kung di masa ang mga walang kakwenta-kwenta nilang sitcoms at soaps I dont know what masa is anymore.  Joey Marquez at sino ba yun Jong ba yun mga quality pala sila?  Isama mo na rin si Clavio sosy pala ang show niya hehehe
You've got a point there. Pero mas pang masa ang ABS. Andun si Bayani, Bentong, The whole cast of Home along da Riles. And sino ba ang mas pang masa pa kay Nora?
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  And one more point during Martial Law ang daming napasarang Media institutions ni Marcos I just wonder why GMA was not closed?  Well you figure it out.  ;D
Huh? Anong kinalaman nyan? Ang hilig mo talaga lumayo sa topic. Labo mo! Sa ibang thread na dapat yan.

Eto na lang masasabi ko, parehong may corny ang baduy na programs and ABS and GMA. Pero para sa akin, mas ok ang GMA. Get over it Mr. Big Boy. Wag ka na magtanong kung ayaw mo tanggapin ang opinions ng  ibang tao. Gumawa ka ng lang ng thread para sa pro ABS. Peace na lang Mr. ABS CBN. :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 20, 2002 at 04:41 PM
Dear Laser Jet

   Just a few correction:

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"I don't remember saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS. Saan mo nabasa yun? Baka gusto mo balikan ang post ko. Maybe you didn't understand what  i posted."

 I think your the one who does not understand your own post, at ikaw ang dapat bumalik sa post mo.  Is this statement not tantamount in saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS?  Heres your post and I quote:

  "I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network."


If an anchor is working in a propagandist network which you say ABS is, then what are they?  Parang mo ng sinabi na hindi catholico ang mga pari who is serving in a Chatholic church, is that possible?

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You just proved my point.  All they can do is question policies. What use is that kung hindi sila susundan ng mga Lopez?

Well thats better than nothing thats only my point.

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Parang malayo na yan sa usapan Mr. Big Boy. Do you have something against gays?

How can u say malayo na sa usapan when you stated na propagandist network ang ABS without any proof, here I am witnessing first hand yung unprofessionalism and bias ni Mr Enriquez tapos malayo sa usapan?  Can you be more bias than that?  Aren't you the one who said may political slant ang ABS reporting?

I have nothing against gays, but if a news anchor gestures and act like a showbiz gay reporter on cam thats another matter.

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Napaka galing mo naman. Alam mo na agad na tatakbo sila. Psychic ka ba? Anyway, I'm not interested in betting on something like that. Napaka babaw.

On the contrary ikaw ang magaling kasi tumakbo lang sila Loren and company naging propagandist na ang ABS.  Why can't anchors run if lawyers, doctors can, what makes them different?  Bakit di mo sinama sila Mareng Winnie dahil GMA?

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You've got a point there. Pero mas pang masa ang ABS. Andun si Bayani, Bentong, The whole cast of Home along da Riles. And sino ba ang mas pang masa pa kay Nora?

Talaga namang "MASA" lahat ng local media, kaya nga "MASS MEDIA" anyone who says otherwise should check the dictionary.  I never said na hindi masa ang ABS your the one who claimed that GMA is not masa right?

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Regardin Martial Law:
Huh? Anong kinalaman nyan? Ang hilig mo talaga lumayo sa topic. Labo mo! Sa ibang thread na dapat yan.

Natatawa ako sayo your the one who opened up and started the topic about a network being politically slanted and ABS being a propagandist tapos tatanong mo kung ano ang kinalaman ng Martial Law statement ko?  Well GMA was kept open by Marcos while the other networks where closed down, just read between the lines ok.

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Eto na lang masasabi ko, parehong may corny ang baduy na programs and ABS and GMA. Pero para sa akin, mas ok ang GMA. Get over it Mr. Big Boy. Wag ka na magtanong kung ayaw mo tanggapin ang opinions ng  ibang tao. Gumawa ka ng lang ng thread para sa pro ABS. Peace na lang Mr. ABS CBN.

This is just a friendly discussion, yes I started the thread does that disqualify me from participating?  Im not against your opinion Im just sharing mine is that bad?  If I remember correctly your the one who answered my post and you even called it silly remember?  Now you tell me, whos the one na di maka-tanggap ng opinion ng iba?  I have nothing against GMA infact I never stated anything untrue against GMA unlike some.  

Anyway Peace and prosperity sa iyo rin Mr. GMA remember:

Isang Pamilya  ;)

Isang Puso  :D

Ngayong Pasko  ;D


Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: kimpOy on Dec 20, 2002 at 05:01 PM
dati gusto ko channel 2 tapos nung nauso ang soaps ayoko na!
pati GMA 7 ayoko na rin

(paano TV hogging mga babae sa bahay, di ako makapanood maski games ko di ko na mapanood
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Homeland on Dec 20, 2002 at 06:47 PM
Let's not get personal here. Please stick to the topic of discussion, or we'll have to lock this thread down. Thank you for your cooperation.

PinoyDVD Administration
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Dec 20, 2002 at 08:26 PM
Let's not get personal here. Please stick to the topic of discussion, or we'll have to lock this thread down. Thank you for your cooperation.

PinoyDVD Administration

Good call there Kap!

Now as can be ascertained in my earlier posts (i count 2), I go for ABS but admittedly, GMA have good shows too. I just cannot stand watching and listening to Mike Enriquez just as I hate Korina's commentaries (on radio)

The question posed by Mr. Big Boy alludes to the network not just the specific channel hence for ABS, it includes the VHF/UHF/cable and international channels (TFC)

Admittedly, as far as network scope, ABS is way ahead of GMA as it has wider presence media wise and location wise. GMA used to have Channel 27 (remember NBA on 27?) but problems caused its shutdown.

GMA also used to have program distribution in the United States but the main complaint then was the programs were basically Cafe Aroma (Apeng Daldal- remember him?) and onld GMA shows. I do not have info if they currently have it now.

From peers, I heard that GMA is planning to venture again in the international arena. With the transfer of its signals from Mabuhay (Agila Satellite) to Measat satelllite of the malaysians for national distribution (remember their plugs this year hyping that they are now on digital transmission to the provinces?), they are re-positioning again in the international market.

For ABS, it is saddled by its own set of problems primarily financial as it is affected by the problems of its sister companies Meralco, Maynilad, Bayantel and Sky. As mentioned in earlier posts, GMA is fast catching up as far as ratings are concerned. What was not mentioned is that both ratings of ABS and GMA dropped on the last quarter except that ABS's rating dropped more than GMA's thus the net effect was that the difference now is less, and this can be interpreted as GMA is closing in on ABS.

So what is in store for us as viewers? GMA will try its very best to disloge ABS from the top by improving its programs while ABS will try to maintain its hold on the top by improving its programs. That is competition and at the end on the day, the viewers are the winners.

There is no need to be personal!  :D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Dec 20, 2002 at 08:34 PM
Naka-block ang ABS sa TV namin sa bahay  ;D


At 9 PM tonite (Dec 20), you do not have a choice! There will be an ABS CBN simulcast on 2, 23, lifestyle, ANC and cinema 1 for thier christmas special.

No problem, DVD ang panoorin ko!
 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: LaserJet on Dec 20, 2002 at 10:12 PM

 I think your the one who does not understand your own post, at ikaw ang dapat bumalik sa post mo.  Is this statement not tantamount in saying na walang credibility ang anchors ng ABS?  Heres your post and I quote:

  "I think news anchors should stick to the news and not delve into politics. Thats why ABS to me, is a propaganda network."


If an anchor is working in a propagandist network which you say ABS is, then what are they?  Parang mo ng sinabi na hindi catholico ang mga pari who is serving in a Chatholic church, is that possible?
All I'm saying is that news anchors should stick to the news and save the political commentary to themselves. Ok lang kung public affairs program yung hino-host nila. I don't think that's too much to ask for.
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How can u say malayo na sa usapan when you stated na propagandist network ang ABS without any proof, here I am witnessing first hand yung unprofessionalism and bias ni Mr Enriquez tapos malayo sa usapan?  Can you be more bias than that?  Aren't you the one who said may political slant ang ABS reporting?
I said that just to tell you the reason why I prefer GMA.
I didnt say I have proof, it's just my honest and humble opinion. If you're going to bring Mr. Enriquez's gesture and actions into this discussion, I'd like to point out Mr. Noli de Castro's expression which I have heard countless times. Madalas nya sabihin yung "Nge!" when reporting the news. I find that unprofessional as well.
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On the contrary ikaw ang magaling kasi tumakbo lang sila Loren and company naging propagandist na ang ABS.  Why can't anchors run if lawyers, doctors can, what makes them different?  Bakit di mo sinama sila Mareng Winnie dahil GMA?
I didn't say na hindi sila dapat tumakbo and Winnie Monsod is not a news anchor.
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Talaga namang "MASA" lahat ng local media, kaya nga "MASS MEDIA" anyone who says otherwise should check the dictionary.  I never said na hindi masa ang ABS your the one who claimed that GMA is not masa right?
Nagkakamali ka yata. Mass media is not the same as pang Masa na sinasabi ko. Nagpi pilosopo ka na eh.
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Natatawa ako sayo your the one who opened up and started the topic about a network being politically slanted and ABS being a propagandist tapos tatanong mo kung ano ang kinalaman ng Martial Law statement ko?  Well GMA was kept open by Marcos while the other networks where closed down, just read between the lines ok.
So? Ang tagal na nun ha! 2002 na. Aren't we talking about ABS vs. GMA in the present? My point is, that's history already. But if you want to go argue that point, why not mention that Korina Sanchez and Ted Failon were obviously pro Erap.
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Anyway Peace and prosperity sa iyo rin Mr. GMA remember:
Isang Pamilya  ;)
Isang Puso  :D
Ngayong Pasko  ;D
Thank you very much and peace be with you Mr. ABS  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Dec 21, 2002 at 02:03 AM
Dear LaserJet
 
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  I hope I did not create an impression to you that I am mad, irrated or whatever where just discussing here infact nakatawa nga ako ng binabasa ko post mo nakakatuwa kasi if your views and comments are being challenge.  To Kap Sumbong my apologies if my post bordered or went to being personal, its not intentional and its all in the spirit of fun discussion, thanks.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: LaserJet on Dec 21, 2002 at 12:21 PM
Dear LaserJet
 
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  I hope I did not create an impression to you that I am mad, irrated or whatever where just discussing here infact nakatawa nga ako ng binabasa ko post mo nakakatuwa kasi if your views and comments are being challenge.  To Kap Sumbong my apologies if my post bordered or went to being personal, its not intentional and its all in the spirit of fun discussion, thanks.
Dear Mr. Big Boy,
Ok lang yan. Nakakatuwa nga eh. Di ko naman sineseryos ang mga post mo. We're all entitled to our own opinions. Last post ko na ito sa thread na ito. I've said what I wanted to say.

Thanks!

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: X-®an™ on Dec 21, 2002 at 06:12 PM
Question lang po:  Where and how do we get the TV ratings?   Are they reliable?



Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Dec 21, 2002 at 07:10 PM
Question lang po:  Where and how do we get the TV ratings?   Are they reliable?


This might be slightly OT but to respond to your query:

TV ratings are just like surveys conducted. The ratings company like PSRC (at least during my earlier stint in a tv company, that is what they call their company - Phil Survey & Ratings Co, i think)

As in surveys, PSRC calls up a random sample number of households for a given hour (say 300 households) and ask if their TV is open and what channel they are asking. My understanding was 300 is a representative of the whole televiewing universe. They gather the results and get the percentages. Thats how they used to do it 15 years ago. I would presume that with advances in communications and electronics, this process has been automated already.

This is what they do from early morning until the last show (i think?). The results are not released publicly since this is where they get their income. TV Networks and advertising agencies subscribe to these survey companies to get periodic reports of the survey results. It is up to the networks to release the data to the public (para iyabang just like what ABS does) while the ad agencies use the data to determine which shows they should put their ad money into.

Now, are the results reliable? Well, the appropriate question should be is it credible? If the ad agencies believe them, then it could be credible. AFAIK, TV networks maintain their own survey groups to validate the results they get from the survey companies.

Now back to regular programming  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: tABs on Dec 21, 2002 at 07:39 PM
Peace Men! Give LOVE on Christmas Day



ang masasabi ko lang, Pinas is a free and democratic country. Lahat ng tao ay free to air/say his or her opinion/s. Kung sabihin ng ABS sila #1, so be it, opinion nila yun, kung sabihin din ng GMA na sila ang #1, no problem, opinion din nila yun. If we do not want to watch both channel, no problem, rights natin yun. Ain't no need to argue who's who of the 2 channels. Pinas needs more help than arguments. Kawawa ang pinas sa ngayon. Too much politicking (tama ba?), graft and corruption, greediness, is killing my beloved Pinas. Kaya nga kaming mga hamak na OFW ay nde pa makauwi kasi we don't know what's in store for us back there. Our future there is too bleak. :'(
Back to the main topic- ABS vs GMA, i'd say we shouldn't be affected that much by their rivalry. What would we get if we join in in their pasiklaban? Baka may magbarilan o magsaksakan o magsuntukan pa rin just for that.  :o  But i know we're all mature enough naman dito, di ba,  that will not happen for sure.  The only benefit we'd surely get from their rivalry is that magpapagandahan sila ng programs nila. Who's the end winner? tayo pa rin- the viewers. so need to argue. peace brother.....it's time Christmas time...   ;D

just watch your DVDs....sit back, relax, and enjoy the digital surround sound of your 5.1 setup...wala pang problema...   :D

This is my opinion, you have the right to argue it, but don't expect me to indulge in an argument...i want peace...

i wish you all a very merry and peaceful Christmas... Happy Birthday Jesus! Feel HIS LOVE in your hearts

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SiCkBoY on Dec 22, 2002 at 01:19 AM


This might be slightly OT but to respond to your query:

TV ratings are just like surveys conducted. The ratings company like PSRC (at least during my earlier stint in a tv company, that is what they call their company - Phil Survey & Ratings Co, i think)

As in surveys, PSRC calls up a random sample number of households for a given hour (say 300 households) and ask if their TV is open and what channel they are asking. My understanding was 300 is a representative of the whole televiewing universe. They gather the results and get the percentages. Thats how they used to do it 15 years ago. I would presume that with advances in communications and electronics, this process has been automated already.

This is what they do from early morning until the last show (i think?). The results are not released publicly since this is where they get their income. TV Networks and advertising agencies subscribe to these survey companies to get periodic reports of the survey results. It is up to the networks to release the data to the public (para iyabang just like what ABS does) while the ad agencies use the data to determine which shows they should put their ad money into.

Now, are the results reliable? Well, the appropriate question should be is it credible? If the ad agencies believe them, then it could be credible. AFAIK, TV networks maintain their own survey groups to validate the results they get from the survey companies.

Now back to regular programming  ;D

Until now ganito pa rin ba ginagawa nila?  Akala ko matagal nang pinalitan ang system na 'to and they now have the technology to gauge the ratings at any given point in time.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Sen.Almondski on Dec 22, 2002 at 05:39 PM
This system never gave a flawless survey result  :P
It means all TV surveys are flawed ! ???
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Dec 23, 2002 at 01:05 PM
According to a friend in the advertising industry, survey companies now uses a gadget they install in a survey home.  Their request to the viewers in the home is that whenever they watch television, they input their individual viewer ID into the gadget. Presumable, the gadget is connected to the television to determine the channel it is tuned to at that particular time. If there are 3 viewers, all three inputs their individual codes. This is how the surveyors gather the demographics of TV viewing, something advertisers will pay an arm and a leg for!

The viewing data stored in the gadget is periodically sent back to the survey HQs via a cellphone call. That is, the gadget periodically calls into the HQ using a pre programmed cell number and uploads the info. That way, the survey companies can gather real time data which can be made available to the networks practically the following day.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: kainanna on Apr 09, 2003 at 03:12 PM
maganda daw ang soap opera sa GMA sabi sa probinsiya namin.  kaya lang hindi ko ma-compare.  ABS-CBN lang kasi mayroon dito.  Maganda iyong Kay  tagal kitang hinintay.  Ang galing ng writer at director.  Magaling din stars nila.  Mga bago, hindi malalaking artista pero may K.  
My favorites, KAren DAvila and Kris Aquino and Ces Drilon.  
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: acyl_halide on Apr 09, 2003 at 08:06 PM
GMA definitely...

The combined efforts of ABS-CBN's public affairs programs cannot match the credibility and talent of Jessica Soho. She's got the Peabody Award (equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism).

For me GMA is the best. Its got the most intelligent and socially relevant political soap Kung Mawawala Ka. Eat Bulaga is unbeatable. Saksi just won a gold medal at the New York TV awards. The most credible public affairs shows are here: The Probe Team, I-Witness, Debate. The best sunday variety show featuring the best in the music industry today: Regine V., Ogie A., Lani M., Jaya....
The more sunny and wholesome morning show Unang Hirit...The only funny sitcom on Philippine TV Kool Ka Lang....The long-running gag show Bubble Gang.... The most biting and original showbiz magazine show Startalk...

My only problem is why are all talk shows calling themselves as such when all they feature are showbiz materials...


The only saving glory for ABS-CBN is the Mexican telenovela Daniella...Hot Hot Hot Daniella!!!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Apr 09, 2003 at 09:25 PM
GMA definitely...

The combined efforts of ABS-CBN's public affairs programs cannot match the credibility and talent of Jessica Soho. She's got the Peabody Award (equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism).

Kaya forever single na si Ms Soho because she's married to her profession.

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The only saving glory for ABS-CBN is the Mexican telenovela Daniella...Hot Hot Hot Daniella!!!

Kay Paloma pa rin ako ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bunkieboy on Apr 09, 2003 at 10:34 PM
neither both channels suck.

who the hell wants to watch telenovelas and variety shows anyway. both channels are just gay man.

thank god for solar sports, espn and starsports. i think that is why i got into dvds, when the sports seasons are over i have nothing else to watch
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Sen.Almondski on Apr 10, 2003 at 12:24 AM
neither both channels suck.


ABS-CBN TFC sucks most OFW's in KSA, subscription is too much but only offer a recycle/ replay shows like Mula Sa Puso etc ( i dont have TFC, ive seen it in my friend's home), the TFC management said it was requested and due to public demand, hehe my a**, they should tell it to the marines!  >:(

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Qman on Apr 10, 2003 at 03:20 AM
neither both channels suck.


ABS-CBN TFC sucks most OFW's in KSA, subscription is too much but only offer a recycle/ replay shows like Mula Sa Puso etc ( i dont have TFC, ive seen it in my friend's home), the TFC management said it was requested and due to public demand, hehe my a**, they should tell it to the marines!  >:(



Napansin ko nga paulit ulit na lang at mga luma pa... me drama series sila na ongoing sa TFC naroon pa si Rico Yan at bata pa.



Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 10, 2003 at 03:16 PM
Just wan't to post this for your reaction.  This survey came out from Philippine Star.

After this survey came out nagalit na si Mr Mike Enriquez and GMA accused SkyCable of sabotage kaya daw bumagsak ratings nila.  :)


TV ratings: Where they stand
Reader Dennis Casapao is asking about the results of the recent AGV Metro Manila Household Ratings (between Feb. 28 and March 1). Your luck, Dennis. Funfare’s VIDPA (Very Important Deep Penetration Agent) has just handed (surreptitiously, I assure you!) me the report, marked "Private and confidential."

Here are the conclusions:

• Overall audience share shows that ABS-CBN leads with 43 percent of the audience with GMA at 29 percent and Channel 13 at 5 percent. Interesting to note is that Cable Television already has 16 percent of the audience share.

• In primetime, which is the most important block in television, ABS-CBN has a 44 percent audience share while GMA has 26 percent and Channel 13 has 8 percent.

• The top 10 once a week programs all belong to ABS-CBN. ABS also has 14 of the top 20 programs while GMA has 5 and IBC has 1 show in the top 20.

• Among the battle of the soap opera’s ABS-CBN’s Kay Tagal Kang Hinintay, Bituin and Sa Dulo Ng Walang Hanggan have more than double the audience of GMA’s Sana Ay Ikaw Na Nga, Ang Iibigin Ay Ikaw and Habang Kapiling Ka.

• ABS CBN’s TV Patrol also has more than double the audience than GMA’s Frontpage, while GMA’s Saksi is almost equal to ABS-CBN Headlines.


Here’s the overall ratings (6 a.m. to 12 midnight):

Top Once-A-Week Evening Programs
[td]Rank Channel            
1 ABS-CBN                        
2 GMA 7                          
3 Cable                              
4 IBC 13                                
5 Studio23                          
6-7 ABC 5                              
6-7 RPN 9                              
8 PTV 4                                
9 MTV Phils
[/td]
[td]Ratings
16.2
10.9
5.8  
1.7
1.4
0.6
0.6
0.5
0.3  
 [/td]
[td] Audience Share
43
29
16
5
4
2
2
1
1
[/td]
[/table]

 


Top Once-A-Week Evening Programs

Channel              Show              Rating
1         ABS-CBN    Maalaala Mo Kaya (Chocolate Ice Cream)   -   27.6
2         ABS-CBN   OK Fine Whatever!   -   25.6  
3         ABS-CBN   Magandang Gabi Bayan (Pera ng Pulis?)   -   23.8  
4         ABS-CBN   Wansapanataym (Gayuma)   -   23.2  
5         ABS-CBN  Alias (TV-Series)   -   21.7  
6         ABS-CBN  Star Cinema Presents (Eto Na Naman Ako)   -   20.1
7         ABS-CBN  Whatta men   -   19.7  
8         ABS-CBN  Sharon   -   19.0
9         ABS-CBN  Mission: X Early Edition (Bad Trip To Amerika)   -   18.9
10-11  ABS-CBN   Home Along Da Riles   -   18.8  
10-11 GMA          Bubble Gang   -   18.8
12      ABS-CBN  Arriba! Arriba! (Tahan Marvin Tahan) 18.1
13-14 ABS-CBN  Klasmeyts   -   17.4
13-14 GMA        Magpakailanman (Kakaibang Mukha Ng Pag-ibig)   -   17.4
15      ABS-CBN  Night Visions (My so-called Life and Death)   -   16.0
16      GMA        Kakabakaba? (Cellphone Kong Katakot!!!)   -   15.5  
17      GMA        Idol Ko Si Kap Todo Na To!   -   15.3  
18      IBC         Star For A Night   -   15.1  
19-21 ABS-CBN  Bida Si Mister Bida Si Misis   -   14.9
19-21 GMA        K! The P1,000,000.00 Videoke Challenge   -   14.9
19-21 GMA        Beh Bote Nga   -   14.9
22      GMA        Blockbuster Cinema (Megamol)   -   14.4
23      ABS-CBN  Willingly Yours (Haliging Musmos)   -   14.3  
24      GMA        imbestigador (Bahay Sa Laguna ...)   -   14.2
25      ABS-CBN  Sunday Family Cinema (Ronan Keating show)   -   14.1
26      ABS-CBN  Gus Abelgas Nag-uulat (Street Crime)   -   13.9  
27      GMA        Daddy Di Do Du   -   13.3  
28-29 ABS-CBN  FPJ Action Cinema (Ang Probinsyano)   -    12.4
28-29 GMA        Kool Ka Lang (A Knights To Remember)   -     12.4
30-31 GMA        Dragon Ball GT (Ani)   -   12.0  
30-31 GMA        Partners Mel & jay (Mga Taga-Showbiz)   -    12.0  
32-33 GMA        Jessica Soho Reports (Palpak Si Parak)   -    11.3  
32-33 GMA        Daboy en Da Girl   -   11.3  
34      GMA        Sunday Night Box-Office (You’ve Got Mail)   -   10.5
35      GMA        The Probe Team (Usapang For Adults only)   -   10.0
36      ABS-CBN   Mission X: Producer’s Cut (Brgy. Prosti)   -    9.9  


Top Multi-Weekly Evening Programs  

Rank               Channel         Show Rating
1  ABS-CBN   Kay Tagal Kang Hinintay (TV-Series)    -   39.2  
2  ABS-CBN   Bituin    -   37.1
3  ABS-CBN   Sa Dulo Ng Walang Hanggan    -   36.9
4  ABS-CBN   Game KNB?    -   30.5
5  ABS-CBN   TV Patrol    -    24.5
6  GMA        Sana Ay Ikaw Na Nga    -   16.1
7  GMA        Ang Iibigin Ay Ikaw    -   15.8
8  GMA        Kung Mawawala Ka    -    15.7  
9  GMA        Habang Kapiling Ka    -   15.0
10 GMA        Frontpage Ulat Ni Mel Tiangco    -   13.6
11 ABS-CBN   Etc.    -   12.4  
12 GMA        Extra! Extra!    -   10.8
13 GMA        Saksi    -   10.5
14 ABS-CBN   ABS-CBN headlines    -   10.2


Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: acyl_halide on Apr 10, 2003 at 08:33 PM
I think the ratings for the soap block could be credible but for ABS-CBN to dominate the for most of the shows is plainly bogus.

But I must concede that with the wide reach of ABS-CBN it should naturally capture majority of the audience nationwide.

Nevertheless, ratings should never translate to the quality of these shows.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: utoy on Apr 11, 2003 at 10:30 AM
I think the ratings for the soap block could be credible but for ABS-CBN to dominate the for most of the shows is plainly bogus.

Well, the "report" says it's from AGV. Akala ko nag merge na ang AGB at SGV.  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on Apr 11, 2003 at 11:19 AM
 :)Kung sa ratings at revenue ABS-CBN tops the score Most of ABS CBN teledramas ay pinanonood ng mga taga-sa amin kung mag lalakad ka sa gabi karamihan ay naka tune-in sa mga telenovela ng Dos.Dominate na man ng GMA  ang noontime shows at mga late night t.v. shows like Debate.Kung sa labas ng bansa maraming awards ang GMA .Kung sa reporting parehong may credibility at minsan may bias din ang dalawang istasyon!Kung tinitingnan ninyo ang mga reporting,kung may kapunapuna ang isang istasyon they give more time in airing .Like sa showbiz karamihan ng mga blind items ng Unang hirit ay sa mga kabilang istasyon! the same with Ogie Diaz.Sa mga reporting ganun din. Sa Mel and Jay show na man may mga ilang episodes na may mga nag-rereklamo umano dahil mali ang mga research na nangyari noong August 2000 episode nila regarding sa mga failed marriages kasi yung ilang guess nila doon ay questionable ang mga background! As for the other shows parehong istasyon nag-gagayahan!Eat Bulaga at MTB parahong naggagayahan .i have some friends from both networks! So may Good and Bad side ang dalawang istasyon na ito!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Apr 11, 2003 at 12:03 PM
After this survey came out nagalit na si Mr Mike Enriquez and GMA accused SkyCable of sabotage kaya daw bumagsak ratings nila.  :)


Even if there is an iota of truth in Mr. Enriquez's claims, sky cable subs only account for less than 30% of total viewing households in metro manila, less pa in the sub-urban areas. Mas marami pa rin ang nakakabit sa antenna na kasama sa survey.

Siguro kailangan matuto ang siyete ng focus group discussion to get to the bottom as to why their programs remain at the tailend of the surveys. Soliciting text info from cable subs is just data gathering. That would not solve the problems of the subscriber. Mas mabuting pa kung sa cable operator nila lang sila magreklamo sa halip mak text sa 7 (for the info of everybody, me kita ang GMA sa bawat text na padala!)

Wala kasi silang pang tapat sa antenna ni Ernie Baron! ;D ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Jackie_Chan1975 on Apr 11, 2003 at 01:24 PM



 ang masasabi Gma why?I like there anime maski na paulit ulit ito di pa rin nakakasawa especially Mojacko
and Doraemon!!!!!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 11, 2003 at 06:49 PM



 ang masasabi Gma why?I like there anime maski na paulit ulit ito di pa rin nakakasawa especially Mojacko
and Doraemon!!!!!

When it comes to Anime, ang lamang ng ABS-CBN is Samurai-X I never get tired of that Anime.  Ang galing ng pagka-dub ng dos sa Samurai-X, frankly mas may feeling pa ang tagalize Samurai-X compared to the English dubbed version.

ABS-CBN also have the hottest cartoon in town, Bay Blade mania started from that cartoon.  :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Apr 11, 2003 at 07:10 PM
maganda daw ang soap opera sa GMA sabi sa probinsiya namin.  kaya lang hindi ko ma-compare.  ABS-CBN lang kasi mayroon dito.  Maganda iyong Kay  tagal kitang hinintay.  Ang galing ng writer at director.  Magaling din stars nila.  Mga bago, hindi malalaking artista pero may K.  
My favorites, KAren DAvila and Kris Aquino and Ces Drilon.  
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Karen Davila got to where she is because she used other "skills", ask anyone from GMA. She is not liked by almost all of her batchmates at UP. If she were caucasian, she'd be a blonde. Listen to her radio show, you'll get so many "quotables".

Kris Aquino is, well, Kris Aquino. Her brother Noynoy said it best: "Our father died when Kris was still young. That's why we make allowances for her." Parang "special child" tuloy ang dating nya.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: torque on Apr 19, 2003 at 08:08 PM
Ako paborito ko ang ABS-CBN pag Holy Week kasi mga classic pinoy movies ang pinapalabas nila, parang may filmfest. Kahapon pinalabas nila ang Himala, Ganito Kami Noon, Paano Kayo Ngayon at Insiang. Tapos noong mga nakaraang taon pinalabas din nila ang Itim, Maynila: Sa Kuko Ng Liwanag, Oro Plata Mata. atbp. Sa ABS-CBN "holy week filmfest" ko rin napanood yung Cinema Paradiso, buti na lang hindi pa uso yung tagalized shows dati.

Pagtapos ng holy week puro tele serye na naman ang ipapalabas nila  >:( >:( >:(


Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: justine on Apr 19, 2003 at 09:29 PM
GMA is the best for me.

I think their News and Current Affairs is far better than ABS-CBN.

Since News and Magazine shows are the only things i watch on local TV so GMA is it for me.

In my opinion, I think critical acclaim is more important than ratings.  To each his own, so let us respect each other's opinion.  We are entitled to our own choices and preferences.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Apr 20, 2003 at 10:37 AM
GMA's investigative report team was tops when Luchi Cruz-Valdes was still with the network. That girl can write!

I don't know how things will go for both networks now that she is with ABS-CBN. On the one hand, Luchi will havee to work with the likes of such hacks as Davila (yeuch!) and that other girl in their investigative report show. GMA, on the other hand, has lost its compass in Luchi. GMA's "producers" and the people who handle their news and public affairs are not as good, in fact they're THE hacks in the network.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: johndoe on Apr 20, 2003 at 04:08 PM
GMA for me ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 20, 2003 at 05:45 PM
GMA is the best for me.

I think their News and Current Affairs is far better than ABS-CBN.

Since News and Magazine shows are the only things i watch on local TV so GMA is it for me.

In my opinion, I think critical acclaim is more important than ratings.  To each his own, so let us respect each other's opinion.  We are entitled to our own choices and preferences.

Excuse me just a correction, GMA's news org is officially called "News and Public Affairs" so are the rest of the news organizations, atleast in broadcast news, in our country.

It is only ABS-CBN under Mr. Puno that changed that and tagged their news organization or department as "News and Current Affairs" kasi nga naman mas appropriate.  I don't know kung ginaya na rin ito ng GMA but it started with ABS.

I'm just wondering if your really into GMA's news programs since you called their news that way kasi ABS lang ang gumagamit ng "current affairs" as far as I know  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Apr 20, 2003 at 05:50 PM
Current Affairs, Public affairs -- It's just semantics.  ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 20, 2003 at 05:54 PM
Yeah I know, but in the world of media and showbiz semantics is not just that it could mean millions, a law suit and a trademark.  ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: justine on Apr 20, 2003 at 07:27 PM
I agree with Indie Boy, it is just semantics  ;D

What is important is the quality of the program that they have.

I guess it is my choice if I go for GMA, in the same way that you are entitled to your choice Mr. Big Boy.

Let us just respect each other, okey?  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 21, 2003 at 12:57 PM
Ofcourse we are all entitled to our own preferences.  Just wondering lang naman because nga that word "current" is only used by ABS and if your watching GMA news programs naturally you will be more inclined to retain the "public affairs" word, yun lang.

Sa advertising kasi if a product's slogan, in this case the word "current" sticks in a persons mind and establishes a strong recall it means the product or a show is sucessfull in coming across a medium which translate to as - being watched.  That is one of the barometer used by advertising practitioner, and being in the advertising world napuna ko lang naman.  ;D
Title: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Reuven Malter on Apr 21, 2003 at 03:17 PM
 ;D can't help noticing that ABS is very particular with its slogans  ;D

ABS retained the name Powerboys long after those wannabes left the station, right? just read this over the Inquirer yesterday.

yung Maskulados daw Hagibis sila N*Sync. yeah, as Eminem would say "N*Stink!" no offense to the fans.  ;D just kidding aside on a hot Monday afternoon. cheers!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 10, 2003 at 12:21 PM
Here they go again; this was taken from the Philippine Star it appeared on May 10, 2003:
 ;D

ABS-CBN brands GMA Network lawsuit ‘an act of desperation’
 
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 05/10/2003
 

ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. yesterday branded the civil case for damages filed by GMA Network Inc. as ‘an act of desperation’ following the latter’s failure to grab the ratings leadership.  

GMA Network earlier filed a P12-million civil case for damages against staunch rival ABS-CBN as well as the country’s biggest cable television companies for damages before the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, alleging unfair competition and trade practices.

Also cited as respondents in the civil case filed by GMA on May 6 are Central CATV Inc. (SkyCable), Philippine Home Cable Holdings, Inc. (Home Cable), and Pilipino Cable Corp. (Sun Cable).

Although ABS-CBN has not received a copy of the case filed against them by GMA, ABS-CBN vice-president Maloli Espinosa-Manalastas said that based on what they gathered, the case filed by GMA is baseless and will not stand scrutiny by the court and that eventually truth will prevail.

"The network believes in the integrity and independence of the country’s judicial system. It appears that after it failed to win market leadership as measured by the ratings, GMA-7 is now trying to win through the court what it failed to get in free and open competition with ABS-CBN," Manalastas said.  

GMA alleged in its complaint that ‘in order to arrest or destroy the latter’s upswing performance and top position in the TV industry, SkyCable, Home Cable and Pilipino Cable engaged in unfair competition and/or unfair trade practices together with ABS-CBN through corporate combinations, devices, and machinations resulting in injury and damage to the business and network operations of plaintiff GMA.’  

The complaint cited the common and interlocking business and ownership of ABS-CBN, SkyCable and Pilipino Cable (the Lopezes through holding company Benpres control these companies) and the dominant position of SkyCable in Beyond Cable (a holding company created to consolidate SkyCable and Home Cable where SkyCable has a 66.5. percent stake).

On the one hand, ABS-CBN said GMA 7’s desperate moves and deliberate attempts to discredit the former started when it started to utilize its radio station DZBB through commentaries attacking ABS-CBN. GMA even bombarded the print media with misleading stories against ABS-CBN.  

GMA also filed a complaint with the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) regarding alleged signal disruption and new channel assignments on cable TV. "We wonder what other venues or forums they will employ just to win the ratings game," Manalastas remarked.  

GMA also pointed out in its complaint the reported acquisition of Destiny Cable by SkyCable and Beyond Cable, and that Home Cable’s share in Beyond Cable will be acquired by SkyCable.

It said that with these corporate combinations, machinations and interlocking ownership, Beyond Cable now controls and dictate the signal transmission, channel position, and the airing of shows, programs, and broadcast of free TV stations such as GMA and ABS-CBN.

However, GMA alleged that in carrying these free TV stations, the cable companies have given ABS-CBN first and preferential telecast, to the prejudice of other non-cable TV companies like plaintiff GMA, which is given poor, defective and low density cable transmission and telecast and/or cable TV channel assignments.

It cited, in particular, the unilateral and unlawful rechanneling of GMA’s VHF station, which was moved by the cable companies from Channel 12 to Channel 14, "without notice to plaintiff GMA, to the viewing public, and without prior approval of the National Telecommunications Commission."

As a result of this re-channeling, complainant said there was a disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA’s TV shows, titles, telecasts and films in the cable TV of defendants.  

In addition, GMA complained about the adverse impact of the signal distortions and degradations in the cable TV systems of the defendants on the viewership, quality of the programs, and ratings of GMA for which defendants should be made liable.  

According to GMA, it is common knowledge that the quality of signal and audio transmission and established channel position in cable TV of a non-cable television network like GMA are crucial in arriving at the ratings which in turn determine whether advertisers, producers and blocktimers will sign contracts with the network, which contracts are the lifeblood of TV networks and stations like GMA.

GMA also alleged that defendants are also aware that 50 percent of the so-called ‘people meter’ which is a device used by the ratings suppliers (AGB Philippines and AC Nielsen) to determine the ratings and audience shares of TV programs are placed in cable TV.  

For its part, ABS-CBN said that as a professional broadcast organization, they maintain that having the best quality programming is still the most effective way to win the ratings game.  

"ABS-CBN has kept quiet over this issue and has always trusted the proper authorities to decide," Manalastas noted. However, the network would not allow its competitor to continue maligning and tarnishing its reputation in the industry using the media.  

"We have already filed a complaint with the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster sa Pilipinas (KBP) on GMA’s personal attacks against fellow broadcasters and other stations," she said.
 
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: milkeemee on May 10, 2003 at 06:37 PM
GMA for me. Simple lang. No frills. Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, kailanman hindi magiging  neutral ang ABS. Kung saan  pumunta si Cory, doon ito pupunta. Eh si Cory ang nagpabukas ng ABS. Kaya naman may tie-up ang Philippine Star at ABS di ba?  Si Cory ang kanilang connect. Kaibigang matalik ni Tita Cory si Betty Go-Belmonte na namayapa na at founder ng Star, at kaibigan din niya ang mga Lopezes. Kaya hwag magtaka kung bakit ganyan ang news ng Star as far as ABS is concerned. Mahirap kapag hindi neutral- hindi nagiging objective.  Definitely, hindi magiging objective ang ABS as far as politics is concerned.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 10, 2003 at 07:03 PM
GMA for me. Simple lang. No frills. Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, kailanman hindi magiging  neutral ang ABS. Kung saan  pumunta si Cory, doon ito pupunta. Eh si Cory ang nagpabukas ng ABS. Kaya naman may tie-up ang Philippine Star at ABS di ba?  Si Cory ang kanilang connect. Kaibigang matalik ni Tita Cory si Betty Go-Belmonte na namayapa na at founder ng Star, at kaibigan din niya ang mga Lopezes. Kaya hwag magtaka kung bakit ganyan ang news ng Star as far as ABS is concerned. Mahirap kapag hindi neutral- hindi nagiging objective.  Definitely, hindi magiging objective ang ABS as far as politics is concerned.

does this explain why kris is such a "hot commodity" at abs-cbn???  :D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 10, 2003 at 07:52 PM
GMA for me. Simple lang. No frills. Sa maniwala kayo sa hindi, kailanman hindi magiging  neutral ang ABS. Kung saan  pumunta si Cory, doon ito pupunta. Eh si Cory ang nagpabukas ng ABS. Kaya naman may tie-up ang Philippine Star at ABS di ba?  Si Cory ang kanilang connect. Kaibigang matalik ni Tita Cory si Betty Go-Belmonte na namayapa na at founder ng Star, at kaibigan din niya ang mga Lopezes. Kaya hwag magtaka kung bakit ganyan ang news ng Star as far as ABS is concerned. Mahirap kapag hindi neutral- hindi nagiging objective.  Definitely, hindi magiging objective ang ABS as far as politics is concerned.

Your allegations about the Philippine Star is very far fetched.  Just FYI this article also came out on the Inquirer and mas grabe pa nga ang negative comments sa GMA.  And I always read the Star and daming negative write-ups when it comes to ABS-CBN kaya I really doubt what your saying about the Star have any merit.

BTW I would have also posted the article on the Inquirer but it did not came out on their website maybe because they in partnership with GMA.

BTW can you please sight some instances na kumampi and dos kay Cory just curious.  If that where true then please explain to me why ABS is also accused of siding with Erap who we all know have been asked by Cory to step down.
 
 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on May 12, 2003 at 08:44 AM
 ;D Hahaha, I think the one who posted the news article just got his source from Star. Actually not only Philippine Star had this story but almost every newspaper in town from tabloid to broadsheet! Hindi natin maiiwasan ang pagkakaroon ng pagkiling ng mga t.v. stations. Looked at RJTV 29, Channel2 and 7 hindi ba sila ang nag-cover nang Edsa 2 while Net 25 covered the Edsa 3?both stations particularly channel 2 & 7 kung sa showbiz blind article you will know easily na talents ng kabilang istasyon ang kanilang tinutukoy.I think instead of mag-aaway -away itong dalawang istasyon ,They should get their acts together.Sometimes nakakasawa na yung mga awayan na iyan! kaya looked at Philippine television parang pulitika na! Compare our t.v stations with other countries!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 12, 2003 at 08:48 AM
Well, stations in other countries are no better off. Just look at MSNBC and FOX News. Both stations are fighting like drunken whores over who has the more credible news facility. They even make TV ads attacking each other.

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 12, 2003 at 02:19 PM
Well, stations in other countries are no better off. Just look at MSNBC and FOX News. Both stations are fighting like drunken whores over who has the more credible news facility. They even make TV ads attacking each other.



Really?  Thats interesting, how did the ads go?  I know that in the US there is more freedom to mention your competition's name in your ads.

Ek-Ek what are you trying to say in your post?  I'm the one who posted that news article, and yes I did get it from the Philippine Star as my post have stated.

 ;D
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Post by: indie boi on May 12, 2003 at 03:09 PM
It all started with the Geraldo Rivera controversy where he was accused of showing to the public highly confidential military information. MSNBC fired off an ad that say they are not Un-American like Fox. Fox, then fired back by making an ad based on MSNBC's firing of Peter Arnett.

It was just pettiness and immaturity on the two networks. Much like what we have here.  
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 12, 2003 at 04:54 PM
Yeah I know, but in the world of media and showbiz semantics is not just that it could mean millions, a law suit and a trademark.  ;)

So you mean to say ABS has the patent on the phrase "Current Affairs"?  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: RMN on May 13, 2003 at 11:44 AM
Market leadership not the issue, says GMA Network
 
The Philippine Star 05/13/2003
 
GMA Network, Inc. said yesterday that market leadership was not the issue in the complaint it has filed against ABS-CBN and three cable companies before the Quezon City Regional Trial Court on May 6 but was grounded on its unwavering stand against unfair competition.

The company earlier filed a P12-million civil case for damages against ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp., Central CATV Inc. (SkyCable), Philippine Home Cable Holdings, Inc. (Home Cable), and Pilipino Cable Corp.(Sun Cable).

Reacting to ABS-CBN's statement branding the network's lawsuit as an "act of desperation", GMA Network said in a statement that " market leadership is not an issue; unfair competition and trade practices are the main contentions of the suit."

GMA said it is precisely because the playing field is not even that it has decided to file the charges on monopoly /interlocking ownership of Sky Cable and ABS-CBN by the Lopez group and the Lopezes’ majority holdings in Beyond Cable (the merger of SkyCable and Home Cable).

It added that contrary to ABS-CBN's statement, GMA's ratings and audience shares in Metro Manila have been steadily increasing. It said that according to the latest AGB report, GMA&'s total day rating in April was at the same level as ABS-CBN's ratings of 14 percent. GMA and ABS-CBN's audience shares in April were also at the same level at 37 percent.

In terms of airtime revenues, GMA's performance during the first quarter compared with last years performance is better with a growth rate of 65 percent compared to ABS-CBN's 30 percent. GMA's net income of P406 million is very much ahead of ABS-CBN's P107 million in 2002, it added..

It also noted that GMA's programs have also gained support from advertisers. According to ACNielsen (PMS Monitoring Data), GMA's total day comparative minutes loading from January to April 19, 2003 was 22,749 minutes compared to ABS-CBN's 21,080 minutes for the same period. GMA increased its loading by 63 percent as of April 19 compared with ABS-CBN's 19 percent growth rate for the same period, it added.
Mary Ann Reyes

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 13, 2003 at 01:10 PM
So you mean to say ABS has the patent on the phrase "Current Affairs"?  ;D ;D ;D


Huh???  Who said that?  As far as I know words can't be patented only slogans and titles.

What I said is what I have written nothing more.  You can read it again if you like.

 ;)

The latest press release of GMA is really confusing, they have said it a million times before that the unilateral reassignment of their channel affected their ratings and this is unfair competition as they say, now they are saying that their ratings even increased and even at par with ABS-CBNs, ang GULO nila they're contradicting they're own statement and complaint.

How can it be unfair competition if it benefits them or does not affect them negatively - and in the broadcasing industry ratings is the bottomline.  So how can it not be about ratings if they are talking about unfair competition, we all know that ratings is what competition means in broadcasting.  GMA must be honest about things parang naman kasi linoloko nila ang tao, we all know what they have said in the past and now they are doing a 180 degrees turn around to save face.
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Post by: diamond on May 13, 2003 at 01:23 PM
Mr Big Boy,

GMA seems to be improving its production values, especially in the Public Affairs Department. I like their documentaries. They appear to have more depth and heart.
Of course, it is mostly drowned by voice overs and blotched by standuppers but it is better than in ABS-CBN where sensationalism, shallowness and dumbness abound.

Do you think ABS-CBN, especially its News and whatever Affairs is sliding down the abyss of crass commercialism? Do you think they can outshine the Kapuso people?

Kung ikaw ang nasa ABS, how would you straighten out their act and beat the Kapuso pipol?
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 13, 2003 at 01:26 PM
Here is what Beyond Cable (Sky and Home Cable) have to say, this appeared on PDI on May 12, 2003:


ACCORDING TO BEYOND CABLE
Drop in GMA-7 ratings not
due to channel change


By Abigail L. Ho
Philippine Daily Inquirer

DOMINANT cable operator Beyond Cable Holdings Inc. said the recent transfer of GMA Network Inc.'s channel position in its cable systems was not the cause of the broadcasting firm's drop in ratings.

According to AC Nielsen's Peoplemeter viewership report, the audience share of GMA Network in cabled homes in Dagupan and the rest of Metro Manila (including Laguna, Cavite, Bulacan, Rizal and parts of Pampanga) dropped significantly from November 2002 to mid-March 2003, even if these areas were not affected by the channel repositioning.

In Dagupan, its audience share dropped by 5.3 percentage points to 13.7 percent in mid-March from 19 percent in November last year.

For the areas falling under the "rest of Metro Manila," GMA Network's audience share likewise dropped several notches to 24.7 percent in mid-March from 27 in November 2002.

"(Beyond Cable) did not implement any channel changes in the provincial areas, and yet in some of those areas, GMA's ratings also declined," Beyond Cable marketing head Joy Santos said in a statement.

GMA Network had earlier filed an administrative case with the National Telecommunications Commission and a civil case with the Quezon City regional trial court against rival firm ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. and Lopez-affiliated cable firms SkyCable Central CATV Inc., Philippine Home Cable Holdings Inc. and Pilipino Cable Corp.

SkyCable and Home Cable earlier consolidated to form Beyond Cable. Pilipino Cable was the firm's provincial arm.

The cases were filed on the grounds of monopoly and signal degradation due mainly to channel repositioning.

GMA Network said the transfer of its channel position from 12 to 14 in the Beyond Cable and Pilipino Cable systems led to so much signal distortion that its ratings fell in affected areas.

But Santos stressed that "the channel changes were meant to provide better video and audio quality to all broadcast stations in line with marketing thrusts to entice more non-cabled homes to subscribe to cable TV."
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 13, 2003 at 01:47 PM
Mr Big Boy,

GMA seems to be improving its production values, especially in the Public Affairs Department. I like their documentaries. They appear to have more depth and heart.
Of course, it is mostly drowned by voice overs and blotched by standuppers but it is better than in ABS-CBN where sensationalism, shallowness and dumbness abound.

Do you think ABS-CBN, especially its News and whatever Affairs is sliding down the abyss of crass commercialism? Do you think they can outshine the Kapuso people?

Kung ikaw ang nasa ABS, how would you straighten out their act and beat the Kapuso pipol?

Well I agree with you on that, they have a good news and public affairs team maybe because of the influence and example set by Cheche Lazaro who by the way once headed the News Dept of ABS-CBN.  

Another thing that might be the reason is the culture on Kapuso's workplace, which I heard is more relax and friendly making it more conducive to cooperation and team work.  In ABS-CBN kasi masyado ang competition which is good to a certain degree but it reached to that point na nagaaway-away ng ang mga taga news dept ng dos and it's self destructing.  Because of the fierce internal competition news people there, just to keep ahead with one another will resort to sleazy products that will attract ratings ang get them the managements goodwill, I think that culture should be change.

Now that Luchi Cruz Valdez is back with ABS-CBN I hope that she can turn things around and make her dept which is the News dept dish out more quality oriented shows like their very own correspondents and pipol.  

One thing great with what ABS-CBN did was to make news and public affairs programs very viable and invested huge amount of money on equipment, human resources and infrastructure for news and public affairs.  Before the return of ABS-CBN no one really paid attention and importance to news on TV now Networks are investing money on news and ABS-CBN is responsible for this trend it was the one who improved new organization system in the country and up to now pushing the limit by installing different news centers around the world.
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Post by: Dan on May 13, 2003 at 09:54 PM
One is a Marcos loyalist and the other is a corporate capitalist who doesn't care for the well-being and upliftment of our society.

Take your pick  ;D
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Post by: diamond on May 14, 2003 at 08:40 AM
Tnx Mr Big Boy,

you are a very astute observer. i'm sure the networks will benefit from your observations. do you work for any of them?

another question, do you really expect ABS-CBN or GMA to tell us the truth in many things, given the limitations of TV (advertisers, politics, and all)?
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Post by: bedan_debater on May 15, 2003 at 10:35 AM
for American Shows like Will and Grace, Alias, Smallville etc. - Studio 23 Rocks...

For Variety Shows, News, Investigative Journalism - Definitely GMA.

Filipino Sitcoms, Talk Shows, Telenovelas(K. Hermosa) - ABSCBN .  But I'm trying to boycott the station for being such idiots, the Lopezes I mean.

Innovative Shows and other AMerican sitcoms - ABC 5

Channel 4, 9, 13 - They all suck
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Post by: Ek-ek on May 16, 2003 at 08:40 AM
Really?  Thats interesting, how did the ads go?  I know that in the US there is more freedom to mention your competition's name in your ads.

Ek-Ek what are you trying to say in your post?  I'm the one who posted that news article, and yes I did get it from the Philippine Star as my post have stated.

 ;D
Yes, What I am pointing out is that some people thought that Philippine Star is the only one which tries to cover the said" flame wars" between the two networks.So I posted that lahat ng diaryo ay mayroon article na ganyan. Kung titingnan natin sa revenues mas malaki ang ABS-CBN .Ang Meteor Garden nga almost everyone in the neighborhood watches it kasi lumakad ako kahapon at naririnig ko ang mga t.v. sets nila nasa channel 2
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Post by: viper on May 19, 2003 at 11:46 AM
Yup, nakaginto na naman ang dos sa Meteor Garden. Patok sa me pre-teens and teenagers. In fact, nilipat na yung slot sa 5:30 in anticipation of the opening of classes. Marami kasing estudyanto yung sumusubaybay. Kuha nga ako ng mga bagong labas na posters sa Tutuban para maibenta. Buti pa mga anak ko, kilala lahat yung mga pangalan ng mga characters!

Of course, putting it head to head with Xtra Xtra would test its ratings hold on the 5:30 PM slot. As you have observed, marami nang inilagay dun sa slot na yon, Bediones and Quiambao still reign supreme.
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Post by: viper on May 19, 2003 at 11:59 AM
Reposting my reply to the other related thread:

Regarding the ratings, admittedly, lamang pa rin ABS sa gabi (tele-serye) at  hapon (tele-novela). GMA naman ang me hawak ng tanghali (hirap pa rin ang MTB sa EB). Late nites after the teleserye, lipat ang marami sa GMA kasi lamang yung comedies nila!

So ABS tries to improve on those slots na lamang ang GMA while GMA tries to get the formula to get ahead on the PM and early evening slots. That's the spirit of competition.

Bottom line here, you don't improve your ratings by suing anybody! You improve your programs, you improve your signal and with the DC super antenna, you  can improve your reception (even GMA 7). So bili na, P600 lang from me   (Sorry for the hardsell   ;D  )
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 19, 2003 at 12:10 PM
Yup, nakaginto na naman ang dos sa Meteor Garden. Patok sa me pre-teens and teenagers. In fact, nilipat na yung slot sa 5:30 in anticipation of the opening of classes. Marami kasing estudyanto yung sumusubaybay. Kuha nga ako ng mga bagong labas na posters sa Tutuban para maibenta. Buti pa mga anak ko, kilala lahat yung mga pangalan ng mga characters!

Of course, putting it head to head with Xtra Xtra would test its ratings hold on the 5:30 PM slot. As you have observed, marami nang inilagay dun sa slot na yon, Bediones and Quiambao still reign supreme.

Just a clarification regarding Extra-Extra reigning supreme all the time causing the cancellation of the other programs.  Thats not true at all, Balitang-K of Miss Sanchez which was copied by Extra-Extra was not cancelled because natalo sila sa ratings.  Infact Extra-Extra never defeated Balitang K sa ratings ever it was cancelled because Korina have to do TV-Patrol when Noli run for the Senate same as with Kris Aquino her program was cancelled because she was promoted like Korina to the primetime slot program Game Ka Na Ba.  If Extra-Extra is doing so good I think the host should have been promoted to a primetime show just like their rival host kaso hindi eh.  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 19, 2003 at 12:24 PM
Heres another one from The Philippine Star:

GMA Network asks NTC to cancel licenses of Sky, Sun, Home Cable

By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
Publish Date: [Monday, May 19, 2003]

 
GMA Network, Inc. (GMA) has asked the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) to suspend and eventually cancel the licenses of cable companies Central CATV (SkyCable), Inc., Pilipino Cable Corp. (Sun Cable) and Philippine Home Cable Holdings, Inc. (Home Cable).

In its motion filed last May 13, GMA alleged that despite an order from the NTC, the three cable TV stations still refuse to return complainant’s VHF station back to Channel 12 and its UHF station back to Channel 27.

The said motion was filed pursuant to the NTC’s decision rendered last April 25 which found SkyCable to have violated the provisions of NTC Memorandum Circular No. 4-08-88 by arbitrarily changing channel assignments of KBP members’ TV stations. GMA complained about its transfer from Channel 12 to Channel 14.  

SkyCable was ordered by NTC, among others to carry GMA’s television signals on its CATV system on the channel numbers at which their stations are transmitting and to cease from arbitrarily changing channel assignments without advance written notice to complainant KBP members’ TV stations, the public and the approval by the NTC.

The NTC also said in its decision that since the issue is enforcement of NTC MC 4-08-88, the decision becomes a precedent that is binding upon all cable TV operators who are similarly situated.  

The said decision being immediately executory, GMA alleged in its motion that it wrote SkyCable, Home Cable and Pilipino Cable a letter demanding that the latter’s respective cable systems restore GMA’s VHF TV station to Channel 12 and its UHF station to Channel 27. A copy of the said decision was furnished by GMA to SkyCable, Home Cable and Pilipino Cable together with the said letter.  

GMA alleged that despite notice to the said cable operators, the latter failed to heed the NTC decision as well as MC 4-08-88.

GMA asked the NTC to impose the appropriate sanctions against the cable companies, including the officers and directors, as well as the electronic and communications engineers (ECE) responsible for the operation and maintenance of the cable TV systems of Sky Cable, Home Cable, and Pilipino Cable.

Specifically, the complainant asked for the imposition fines upon the cable companies at the rate of P200 per day per TV station rechanneled unlawfully since March 22, 1999 until compliance;

It also asked the NTC to cause the filing of the necessary complaints for indirect contempt and violation of the penal provisions of the Public Service Act and the Radio Control Law (penalties range from a fine of P2,000 to P20,000, or imprisonment of two years to five years, or both, in the discretion of the court) by the directors and officers, including the electronic and communication engineers, responsible for the cable systems’ operations and maintenance.
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Post by: shu_lien on May 19, 2003 at 01:08 PM
[size=10] GMA  [/size]


Channel lang ha? Hindi presidente.  ;D

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Post by: Ek-ek on May 21, 2003 at 07:32 AM
 ;)Sorry, But
 ABS-CBN is the country's top station and that's the fact!Plus the top earner! I think you just work inside that station! ;D
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Post by: indie boi on May 21, 2003 at 09:38 AM
;)Sorry, But
 ABS-CBN is the country's top station and that's the fact!Plus the top earner! I think you just work inside that station! ;D

But then TOP isn't really synonymous with BEST, right?  :)


By the way, I'm not rooting for any of the two channels. I never watch local stations -- there's nothing to watch.  ;D
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Post by: bedan_debater on May 21, 2003 at 10:53 AM
Indie Boi,

You make an excellent point but I have to thwart your attention to the fact that ABS carries the local station Studio23 as well.  A station that carries a lot of excellenct American shows...

But to address the question, I think that both stations have their fair share of strengths and weaknesses...

Ex.

SOP Rules over ASAP
Eat Bulaga reigns supreme over MTB
the NEWS and investigative journalism shows of GMA are far superior.

BUt then again...

ABS Teleseryes are number 1 in all time slots...
Game K N B is the only game show left...
Sitcoms, ABS has the slight edge...
Plus, ABS carries Studio23.

Regardless of these facts though, I'm still consciously trying to boycott the latter... Most of their stars are jumping fence because they are mean hungry blood suckers...

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Post by: Philander on May 21, 2003 at 11:19 AM
By the way, I'm not rooting for any of the two channels. I never watch local stations -- there's nothing to watch.  ;D

There is still something to watch to... at least, unless you don't have a care in OUR national events.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 21, 2003 at 12:47 PM
Regardless of these facts though, I'm still consciously trying to boycott the latter... Most of their stars are jumping fence because they are mean hungry blood suckers...

That's not true, the perception that the stars of ABS-CBN is jumping fence is a misconception, the truth is, generally these stars where dropped by ABS-CBN because they are not contributing anymore and their talent fees are way above what they really worth.  Let me site an example; Pops Fernandez is overrated she demands higher talent fees and additional shows now why would ABS-CBN give in to her demands if she can't even beat Janice de Belen and Gelli when she hosted "Morning Girls" even her and Martin's concert TV special was a big dissapointment it got the lowest rating ever on that time slot.  She is not an exceptional singer nor a good actress so ABS-CBN decided not to keep her anymore it was not as if she just decided to tranfer post haste.

The funny thing is GMA keeps on getting the services of these stars havent they learn anything yet.  Are they just trying to project an image of being a winner where infact these stars are all loosers?  Look what happened to Mel Tiangco did she delivered?  What about Richar Gomez are his shows rating high?  It's not about stars anymore, shows concepts and creativity is what brings in the ratings nowadays.

 ;D
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Post by: RMN on May 21, 2003 at 10:07 PM
I just found out that Freddie Garcia, ABS-CBN President, and the one responsible for making the network no.1 after its reopening in 1986, is retiring this year.

ABS-CBN president may 'stay
on or act as consultant'  

Posted: 11:38 PM (Manila Time) | May 20, 2003
By Marinel R. Cruz
Inquirer News Service

SO WHO will replace ABS-CBN president Freddie M. Garcia, who is retiring in July when he turns 60?

Executive vice president Charo Santos-Concio is said to be being considered for the post, but there are said to be other names in the short list: sales and marketing executive Nick Gabunada, business development and special projects executive Jose Ramon "Monchet" Olives and senior vice president for integrated engineering group Ruben "Bon-Bon" Jimenez.

Vice president for corporate and legal affairs Maloli Manalastas said retirement is indeed a company policy, "but ABS-CBN management has yet to sit down on this matter."

She said retirement is automatic once an employee reaches the age of 60.

"The question now is to whether management, particularly president Gabby Lopez, would extend Mr. Garcia's term," Manalastas pointed out.

"It is also possible that management would hire him as a consultant," she added.

Manalastas said she knows of several ABS-CBN executives who after retiring stayed on as consultants, like the late Rolly Cruz, who was consultant for the Metro Basketball Association (MBA) and the Sarimanok News Network (SNN).

Manalastas said she has no idea why the names of Santos-Concio, Gabunada, Olives and Jimenez came up.

"It seems the people are too excited," she said.

But she said it is not puzzling if management would pick any one from the batch.

"I think all of them are responsible leaders," she said. "For them to have reached their current positions, it means they are very competent and have contributed enough to the company."



I have a feeling its Charo Santos

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Post by: Grandpoobah on May 21, 2003 at 11:16 PM
[size=20]GMA[/size]

Even a lot of ad agencies want to place their TVCs here and special launches! idiots ka-deal ang mga taga-ABS-CBN - sa GMA alaga.

Also when it comes to innovation - GMA ang panalo. ABS-CBN gaya-gaya!
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Post by: pink moon on May 21, 2003 at 11:20 PM
Indie Boi,

You make an excellent point but I have to thwart your attention to the fact that ABS carries the local station Studio23 as well.  A station that carries a lot of excellenct American shows...

But to address the question, I think that both stations have their fair share of strengths and weaknesses...

Ex.

SOP Rules over ASAP
Eat Bulaga reigns supreme over MTB
the NEWS and investigative journalism shows of GMA are far superior.

BUt then again...

ABS Teleseryes are number 1 in all time slots...
Game K N B is the only game show left...
Sitcoms, ABS has the slight edge...
Plus, ABS carries Studio23.

Regardless of these facts though, I'm still consciously trying to boycott the latter... Most of their stars are jumping fence because they are mean hungry blood suckers...



Meron pa yata nung game show na si Arnel Ignacio ang host sa GMA. Game Ka Na Ba for me is the boring alternative. So fake.
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Post by: Battousai on May 21, 2003 at 11:28 PM
Kailangan ng kalaban yung Game ka na Ba ng Dos. It would be boring kung tumagal pa na yun lang ang game show na pwedeng panoorin.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2003 at 12:26 AM
There is still something to watch to... at least, unless you don't have a care in OUR national events.

If you're referring to the news shows that give as much airtime to showbiz chismis, "tabloid" news, and Mark Logan's irritating and nonsensical reports, thanks but no thanks.

I'd rather read a newspaper or visit news websites. With these types of media I get the NEWS.
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Post by: gurang on May 22, 2003 at 12:30 AM
It takes a certain degree of talent to do what Mark Logan does which few others in local broadcast tv have.  ;D It isn't news or particularly insightful, but I listen to it when I accidentally catch those reports on TV.

[modified to add]

Or maybe just because I do have a fondness for things that rhyme.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2003 at 12:33 AM
Indie Boi,

You make an excellent point but I have to thwart your attention to the fact that ABS carries the local station Studio23 as well.  A station that carries a lot of excellenct American shows...

I do agree that Studio 23 carries, as you have said, excellent US canned shows. But then Studio 23, aside from the irritating Fusion gag they've done, is treated as a separate entity with totally different crews and creative people manning it.  :)

As for your comment about bloodsuckers -- I have very close ties to both stations and I can safely share with you that both stations are bloodsuckers.  You wouldn't believe the dirty tricks these two stations are doing to get an edge. ;)  It's one of the reasons why I resigned from one of these stations and refused to work for the other.
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Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2003 at 12:35 AM
[modified to add]

Or maybe just because I do have a fondness for things that rhyme.

LOL

I have to admit that the guy really does know how to rhyme.  ;D ;D

One thing I hate him doing though is that he makes fun of ugly people in his reports. This coming from a guy who's not exactly Tom Cruise.  ;D
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Post by: gurang on May 22, 2003 at 12:51 AM
I do agree that Studio 23 carries, as you have said, excellent US canned shows. But then Studio 23, aside from the irritating Fusion gag they've done, is treated as a separate entity with totally different crews and creative people manning it.  :)


Come to think of it, I've never been terribly fond of how ABS decided to deal with its two markets by creating separate stations for them. Granted, it makes a lot of economic sense. However, it widens the divide between the presumptive haves and have-nots. TV watching is one of the few communal experiences left shared by Filipinos of all "classes", and relegating the A-B-C crowd shows to Studio 23 makes it more difficult for for that crowd to be aware of what the D-E crowd is watching, and vice-versa.

Then again, maybe the divide is not that great. A lot of my female "sosyal" friends in the A-B-C crowd are just addicted to those ABS soaps.  ;)
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2003 at 12:05 PM
We should give credit to ABS-CBN for bringing the standards atleast in technical aspects of broadcasting to a higher level.  Our broadcasting industry here is one of the most modern in Asia right now and the most viable I think.

We may have trashy TV programs right now but all things evolve.  Come to think of it majority of American shows are super trashy too, we might just see it differently because of our colonial mentality.  Reality TV series which dominates American TV are not only trashy but sleazy aswell and as hell.  Even their newscast are not what you can call intelligent they also have tabloid styled journalism infact they are the ones who started that format.  
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2003 at 12:10 PM
[size=20]GMA[/size]

Even a lot of ad agencies want to place their TVCs here and special launches! rearend personalitys ka-deal ang mga taga-ABS-CBN - sa GMA alaga.

Also when it comes to innovation - GMA ang panalo. ABS-CBN gaya-gaya!

I'm in advertising and what you're saying is not only false but also the opposite.

And about innovation, GMA an innovator???  As far as I know the only thing that GMA have innovated is the art of copying and imitation.  

 ;D

Pahabol lang - Its really funny if an ad agency would base their ad placement dahil lang sa pakikipag-deal sa marketing people of a certain network and jeopardize their accounts that's silly.  As far as I know our ad placement have nothing to do with people from the marketing dept of a network.  Ad placement is based on you Ad strategy, demographics, psychographics, reach, etc. or to put it simply effectivity of reaching your target market.
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Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2003 at 12:13 PM
I'm in advertising and what your saying is not only false but also the opposite.

And about innovation, GMA an innovator???  As far as I know the only thing that GMA have innovated is the art of copying and imitation.  
 ;D

What aspect of advertising are you involved with? Just curious.  :)
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2003 at 12:19 PM
Mostly creatives and production.  :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 22, 2003 at 12:26 PM
You wouldn't believe the dirty tricks these two stations are doing to get an edge. ;)  It's one of the reasons why I resigned from one of these stations and refused to work for the other.

good for you.. kung alam mo nang iniisahan ba't ka pa magii-stay. media talaga is a thankless and "soul"'less job. it takes a lot out of one... kaya mga sobrang madalas ang palit ng mga tao sa business na yan. plus walang security... unless you are a mel tiangco or a korina sanchez  or even a noli decastro. ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2003 at 12:29 PM
Comment lang SPaCeMaN SPiFF.  The three names you mentioned wasn't in their respective stature when they started diba.  I mean if they have quit early they would never have reach that status they are enjoying now.  
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 22, 2003 at 12:30 PM
good for you.. kung alam mo nang iniisahan ba't ka pa magii-stay. media talaga is a thankless and "soul"'less job. it takes a lot out of one... kaya mga sobrang madalas ang palit ng mga tao sa business na yan. plus walang security... unless you are a mel tiangco or a korina sanchez  or even a noli decastro. ;)

Here's one for the lawyers. Until recently, most ABS-CBN employees are considered "Talents" -- editors, writers, PAs, I think even secretaries. Now, being considered a talent means your salary is deducted of taxes but not SSS payments. Why? Because as ABS-CBN HR claims, talents do not have the privilege of company-supported SSS payments. Kung gusto mo ng SSS benefits, mag-file ka as a self-employed individual.

I think they finally changed this policy a year ago.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 22, 2003 at 01:30 PM
Comment lang SPaCeMaN SPiFF.  The three names you mentioned wasn't in their respective stature when they started diba.  I mean if they have quit early they would never have reach that status they are enjoying now.  

true... but they have an edge... they are all on cam talents, they are technically the "face" of the station... any anyhoo... not even these "secure" people are actually secure. i think korina started at channel 4. and everyone remembers mel tiangco was originally channel 2... i'm sure they also paid their dues (he he he... i was so tempted to say "let part of their souls die.") i merely mentioned them kasi... compared to p.a.'s and writers and such... mas may lamang naman sila when it comes to job security.
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Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 22, 2003 at 01:31 PM
Here's one for the lawyers. Until recently, most ABS-CBN employees are considered "Talents" -- editors, writers, PAs, I think even secretaries. Now, being considered a talent means your salary is deducted of taxes but not SSS payments. Why? Because as ABS-CBN HR claims, talents do not have the privilege of company-supported SSS payments. Kung gusto mo ng SSS benefits, mag-file ka as a self-employed individual.

I think they finally changed this policy a year ago.

dapat lang... i think people don't realize the "peanuts" these stations are paying these people.  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on May 23, 2003 at 06:02 AM
 ;)Tama Ka!
              These stations are earning lot so they should give more benefits for their stars!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 23, 2003 at 11:34 AM
;)Tama Ka!
              These stations are earning lot so they should give more benefits for their stars!

uhhh. we were referring to the off cam people... writers, p.a.'s , cameramen, floor directors, etc. etc. ... na without them... the shows wouldn't exist.

 ;D
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Post by: Ek-ek on May 24, 2003 at 08:26 AM
 8)Yup, Stars or no Stars  dapat ganon ang treatment nila!Hindi selective .
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: brainwashed on May 24, 2003 at 10:44 PM
I'd say GMA is better when it comes to programming but this thus not necessarily translate to higher ratings! :)

ABS-CBN is better when it comes to technical know-how!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on May 28, 2003 at 02:21 PM
I'd say GMA is better when it comes to programming but this thus not necessarily translate to higher ratings! :)

totoo yan... higher ratings do not necessarily mean better programming. just because more people watch one show does not make it better.

also...

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ABS-CBN is better when it comes to technical know-how!

not surprised there... mas marami kasing pinagkukuhanan ng pondo ang abs-cbn kaysa sa gma para pambili ng gamit eh... pati sa training. afford nila ipa-train yung technical nila sa kung sino-sino.  ;)
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Post by: indie boi on May 28, 2003 at 04:31 PM
And I think ABS-CBN salaries are a little better compared to GMA.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: blitzkrieg on May 28, 2003 at 08:09 PM
 ;D I don't know but I have this preference to watch GMA shows over ABS-CBN shows.

On news, I believe GMA is tops when it comes to credibility and no-nonsense delivery.

On comedy sitcoms, theirs is fresher and funnier.

On variety shows, they are unbeatable, especially with SOP. I really make it a point to watch the show especially for their back-to-back-to-back. It's got the  creme de la creme in the entertainment scene. With Regine, Lani, Jaya, Ogie & Janno (and in some occasions, Martin and Gary), can you go wrong?  Can't really say the same for that ultra-noisy and pa-tweetums show ASAP (used to like it until Dayanara Torres left) that really lacks REAL, PURE talent!

Don't like telenovelas.

I just feel relaxed and entertained watching GMA shows. To hell with ratings! More often that not, they are merely provided (or fabricated) by paid hacks and station lackeys !  ;D
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Post by: Ek-ek on May 29, 2003 at 08:12 AM
 ;)I watched both ASAP and SOP during sundays but at around 2:00 pm I switched it to channel 13 and watched Ating Alamin with Gerry Geronimo. IBC had also some good shows during weekdays around 5:00pm.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: utoy on May 30, 2003 at 09:37 AM
I just feel relaxed and entertained watching GMA shows. To hell with ratings! More often that not, they are merely provided (or fabricated) by paid hacks and station lackeys !  ;D

you said it. i work for a lopez company but i prefer watching the kapuso station.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on May 30, 2003 at 05:50 PM
According to newspaper accounts, GMA have their ad slots full earning them so much in pesos.

Yet, as far as gross income is concerned, they still trail ABS. What does that mean?
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Sauron Cookie on May 30, 2003 at 06:22 PM
According to newspaper accounts, GMA have their ad slots full earning them so much in pesos.

Yet, as far as gross income is concerned, they still trail ABS. What does that mean?

It's either they're lying or they haven't taken advantage of pricing opportunities....  ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 30, 2003 at 07:45 PM
ABS-CBN advertising rates are far more higher than GMA's and ABS-CBN have more station produced shows than GMA's thats why ABS-CBN have a higher net profit than GMA.

To understand it better lets look at the noontime slot as an example.  GMA is leading the rating war and have a full advertising load with it's show Eat Bulaga, meanwhile ABS-CBN's Masayang Tanghali Bayan is only on second place but this doesnt mean that GMA is earning much more from Eat Bulaga than what ABS-CBN is getting from MTB.  Why?  Because MTB is a stationed produced show meaning all the profit of this show goes back to ABS-CBN, unlike Eat Bulaga which is not produced by GMA and is only a blocktimer (buying airtime from GMA) divide its profit for GMA and T.A.P.E. which produces Eat Bulaga so lalabas mas malaki pa ang profit ng ABS-CBN even if MTB is only behind Eat Bulaga.

 :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 30, 2003 at 08:15 PM
That's true, ABS does have a higher net profit than GMA. But based on the books, GMA still earns more. Why? A simple case of "creative" accounting.

GMA, though not having more station-produced shows, only have the station to worry about. ABS-CBN's management, on the other hand, has decided to diversify into different business interests, which are not making money - Maynilad, Sky Cable, ABS-CBN Publishing, Rockwell, Meralco, etc. Where do you think they're getting the money to keep these other businesses afloat?  ;)

That's the reason why even if ABS is raking in so much money, they decided to lay off more than 30 percent of their people last year. They laid off a lot of employees in ABS-CBN, ABS-CBN International and Pinoycentral.

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: kinyo on May 30, 2003 at 08:36 PM
kung ako nakanakaw, este, naka-overcharge pala, ng 29 billion pesoses, palalakihin ko rin ang ABS-CBN ... papagawa ako ng bagong building ... bili ng helicopters ... upgrade ko system ... bilhin ko competing cable companies ... damihan ko international office ... pakasalan ko anak presidenteng bobo

o di ba bigtime ang ABS-CBN ngayon? pagkatapos nito, nakaw, este, overcharge uli ako ... 50 billion naman kasi kasama na ngayon singil sa tubig, cabletv,telepono, etc!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on May 31, 2003 at 08:06 AM
 :(Yes, most of the Lopez group of companies are not making money ,instead they loose more money. looked at Bayantel, they have one of the worst telephone services That's from our personal experience. Maynilad -Hello 1626 wala pa rin kaming tubig dito sa Novaliches for 1 month na . they always said na mayroong water rationing? Mahina "daw" ang water pressure?,so on and so forth.I always called them district tel.417-71-71 to 73 everyday and yet no water rationing comes to our street. Galit na galit ang mga kapitbahay namin sa inyo! >:( Meralco? Well, Mahal ang bayad nang kuryente, that's "why" foreigners would prefer other countries like Thailand,China,Indonesia over the Philippines because far the electricity rates is far less cheaper in those countries than us! Is that what you call "Public Service" ? Sorry for those Lopez group of companies but ito ang mga "Bad" experiences namin first hand with this companies!
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 31, 2003 at 12:10 PM
kung ako nakanakaw, este, naka-overcharge pala, ng 29 billion pesoses, palalakihin ko rin ang ABS-CBN ... papagawa ako ng bagong building ... bili ng helicopters ... upgrade ko system ... bilhin ko competing cable companies ... damihan ko international office ... pakasalan ko anak presidenteng bobo

o di ba bigtime ang ABS-CBN ngayon? pagkatapos nito, nakaw, este, overcharge uli ako ... 50 billion naman kasi kasama na ngayon singil sa tubig, cabletv,telepono, etc!

WOW! That is a very serious accusation may I know where you based them?  

Obviously you don't understand alot of things, anyway Meralco and ABS-CBN are two different entity and you can't divest any funds of a company into another that easily  and its practically impossible if it is a public company such as Meralco.  The Lopezes only owned 20-30 percent of Meralco and hindi naman "BOBO" and mga stock holders nito they would not let the Lopezes divert funds from the company to ABS-CBN, that's very stupid.

ABS-CBN have invested alot of money thru loans and profits, kumikita ng malaki ang company na ito they don't need to resort to "nakaw".  The building and the choppers are a product of good and sound investment stategy not "nakaw".   Besides ABS-CBN have a big debt right now because of these investments but still the company is growing in terms of profit and assets.

GMA on the other hand did not invest on equipment and human resource development, they could have cemented their postion as  the leading network when ABS-CBN is still hibernating because of martial law.  GMA did not care to give their audience quality products atleast on the technical level they only cared for profit and did not help on advancing the broadcast industry ABS-CBN did that.   Like all the other crony companies of Marcos GMA only siponed the money of the company and up to now Marcos I suspect is getting a substantial amount from GMA's profit.  GMA is a Marcos station no wonder that's the only station campaigning for Imee Marcos.  Panay ang labas ni Imee sa GMA her station ang kapal ng mukha nila.

 >:(


P.S. Maynilad is not with the Lopezes anymore, they already gave it back to the goverment gudluck na lang sa tubig natin now that Maynilad is in the hand of the goverment.

I wonder why people easily point accusing fingers eh mali-mali naman ang info nila.  Just like Maynilad I bet they don't know the whole story about it.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 31, 2003 at 01:27 PM
Here are articles from Star:


ABS-CBN leads move to develop IT zone in Quezon City
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Friday, May 30, 2003]


Media giant ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. plans to lead the development of Quezon City into another information technology (IT) hub by riding on the call center bandwagon, its top officials said yesterday.

ABS-CBN president and chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez III said during the company’s stockholders meeting yesterday that they are currently in negotiations with at least two call center firms for the lease of three out of the 15 floors in the P6-billion Eugenio Lopez Communication Center which lies adjacent to the company’s main studio.

Lopez said the lease would not only maximize the idle space in the building but also contribute to regular earnings.

"We are looking at about 9,000 to 10,000 sq.m. to be leased out and rates of between P400 to P500 per square meter," Lopez said.

He said the move to jumpstart the development of the area into an IT zone is in response to Quezon City Mayor Feliciano ‘Sonny’ Belmonte’s call to bring in a fresh wave of investors into the city.

"This is part of the efforts of Mayor Belmonte to create an IT zone here which is similar to what they were able to do in Eastwood," he said.

He said once the company gets an endorsement from the Quezon City authorities, it would apply for an IT park status with the Philippine Economic Zone Authority (PEZA) to avail itself of various tax incentives.

On its financial performance, the ABS-CBN officials said with revenues expected to reach up to P1.5 billion in May, this would boost cumulative sales to P5 billion for the first five months of the year or over 20 percent higher than the year-ago level.

"We have been practically doing well from January to May. For this period, we would probably be hitting P4.2 billion in airtime revenues (excluding international operations). This should translate to a 25- to 27- percent growth from the previous level, " Lopez said.

ABS-CBN senior vice-president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada Jr. said the cost-cutting measures implemented by management have yielded positive results for the company.

"Achieving sales of P1 billion in one month is the result of people working creatively and aggressively together, in line with top management directions. It’s a very fulfilling, very challenging experience," Gabunada said.

"Today, ABS-CBN has become a stronger organization, in terms of sales and marketing. We have emerged from our organizational restructuring which started in the first quarter of 2002 as a more bullish and more creative force. We have services that cut costs for our customers and add value to our media offers," Gabunada said.

ABS Global’s net sales for 2002 climbed 36 percent to P1.911 billion. It is the holding company which runs The Filipino Channel, ABS-CBN News Channel, Cinema One, and Pinoy Central in the US and the Middle East, and has a worldwide subscribers’ base of 148,000.

ABS-CBN said earlier it would start its operations in Europe in July to take advantage of its satellite which currently serves its Middle East viewers.

ABS Global’s contribution to ABS-CBN’s income fuelled the company’s six percent consolidated net revenue growth for 2002. Other subsidiaries which pushed the broadcast firm’s revenues to P10.91 billion last year were Creative Programs, Inc., ABS-CBN Publishing, and Star Records.

For 2002, ABS-CBN’s airtime and broadcasting revenues amounted to P9.519 billion, down from P9.872 billion in 2001.

Company officials attributed the revenue drop to the absence of political advertisements.

This year, ABS-CBN officials said they are looking at a stronger corporate performance. The company's capital expenditures, pegged at P1.5 billion, will be used to maintain existing operations, fees for film rights, and its European expansion.

For this year, ABS-CBN has maturing debts amounting to P484 million, which would be paid out from internally generated funds.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 31, 2003 at 01:28 PM
ABS-CBN goes to Europe in Aug
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Saturday, May 31, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp., the country’s number one TV network, will launch its European operations in August, chief executive officer Eugenio L. Lopez III said at the sidelines of the company’s stockholders meeting last Thursday.

Lopez said the company is still in discussions with the satellite provider and expects talks to be finalized next month. "There are more than one million Filipinos in Europe and our plan is to launch it in August," he said.

He said while the revenue stream may not come immediately, the market has great potentials.

Apart from this, Lopez said ABS-CBN is also looking at expanding its presence in Canada given the high concentration of Filipinos in the country. "We’re hoping to get it done this year," he said.

The broadcast firm wants to make full use of the satellite it uses for its Middle East operations.

Just like in the US and Middle East, the ABS-CBN lineup will include The Filipino Channel (TFC), which shows top-raters; ABS-CBN News Channel (ANC); Cinema One, an all-movie channel; and Pinoy Central, the variety channel which has entertainment and sports features.

Lopez expects international operations to grow by 30 to 40 percent this year even as its Middle East operations are not doing well as a result of the US-led war in Iraq.

ABS Global Ltd. is the holding company which runs The Filipino Channel, ABS-CBN News Channel, Cinema One, and Pinoy Central in the US and the Middle East. It has 148,000 subscribers worldwide. The company’s sales for 2002 grew by 36 percent to P1.911 billion.

ABS Global’s contribution to ABS-CBN’s income fueled the six-percent growth in the network’s 2002 revenues. Other subsidiaries which pushed the broadcast firm’s revenues to P10.91 billion last year were Creative Programs, Inc., ABS-CBN Publishing, and Star Records
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 31, 2003 at 02:37 PM
GMA Network posts 4-fold hike in April income
Philippine Star
Publish Date: [Thursday, May 29, 2003]

 
GMA Network Inc. said yesterday that its profits surged four-fold to P113 million last April, an increase of 301 percent over the previous year’s P28-million income.

GMA officials said this boosted the company’s cumulative net income for the first four months to P277 million, already exceeding its earnings for the nine-month period from January to September 2002.

With the network’s strong performance in the first four months, GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe Yalong said the broadcast firm may be able to surpass its 2003 income target of P640 million.

In April alone, GMA, which operates local Channel 7, said gross revenues grew 77 percent to P524 million as against P296 million last year.

Of the total revenues, TV sales largely contributed to the increase with revenues of P226 million. Radio sales also went up by P1 million or eight percent better than last year’s figure.

On a year-to-date basis, GMA increased its gross revenues to P1.7 billion, P694 million or 68 percent higher than the previous level.

Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) for April increased by 135 percent to P223 million from P95 million in 2002, bringing cumulative EBITDA at P620 million, 104 percent higher than the P304 million a year earlier.

Meanwhile, cash operating expenses for the period Jan. to April rose 54 percent to P736 million, due mainly to increased production cost and talent fees. Aside from the higher budgets of existing programs, new shows and increased salaries and allowances of employees also contributed to the hike in operating expenses.

GMA-7 officials also attributed the company’s stronger performance to increased ratings and audience share.

To ensure its continued growth, GMA-7 said it will continue to launch new and innovative programs particularly in the prime-time slot where it needs to further boost its ratings.

The network is even gearing up for a possible expansion in the global arena in the latter part of the year.

It will also continue strengthening its provincial coverage and its international distribution signal to attract more viewers.

GMA-7 is hoping to overtake industry leader ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. from its position by producing big-budget, high-quality soap operas and programs and offering lower prime time advertising rates.

The strategy has attracted more advertisements as advertisers jacked up their commitments by as much as 70 percent from last year. – Zinnia dela Peña
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Post by: RMN on May 31, 2003 at 03:48 PM
I just read ABS-CBN's annual report and they've shut down money losing subsidiaries such as ABS-CBN Consumer Products, Inc. which sells t-shirts and other merchandise and Cinemagica which runs cinemas.  2002 wasn't a very good year for them.

I can't believe that they actually reinstated Dong Puno as Senior Vice-President for News and Current Affairs. :o

BTW, For their latest issue, BizNews Asia has GMA-7 as their cover story.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 01, 2003 at 07:13 AM
 Yes, I know that Maynilad is not anymore with the Lopez group but kahit sila ang may control pa nito we also do not get adequate water services.Second as for Bayantel ,
  ;)In fairness mas madali magpakabit sa kanila ng line compared to PLDT it only takes a few weeks ,  :P BUT ang service nila quite poor,yung telephone line namin dito parati may sounds at kung tumatawag ka parating hindi maka-connect even if walang gumagamit ng line. We had two telephone lines before .One is PLDT and the other one is Bayantel after about 3 years we decided na ipaputol na lang ang Bayantel since hindi naman masyadong kailangan at mahirap tumawag sa line na ito.

 :D Hindi naman fair na sabihin the people here don't know anything about these companies kasi part na ito nang aming buhay.
 Kahit na under control kami ng Maynilad water ganon na talaga. Hindi ganon kagandahan ang service nila.

 ;)As for ABS-CBN consumer products dati kasama ito sa Boardwalk a direct and multi-level store and then ABS-CBN decided to open a store in Isetan Recto na tumagal lamang ng about a year or so.Sa ngayon kung gusto mo magkaroon ng mga teleserye pillows you could but in Dakki's Direct sales which specialize in Pillows and patented Warner Bro.,Dragon Ball Z etc.

 :)I wish to clarify that hindi ako anti- Lopez but hindi rin ako pro-GMA network ,and we all know who is the leading network in the country both in revenues and earnings and that is ABS-CBN.  :-*Okey!! ;D
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Post by: RMN on Jun 01, 2003 at 02:05 PM
Here's yet another newspaper article...


GMA-7: We earned
a 'record' P650-M in May
Posted: 10:41 PM (Manila Time) | May 31, 2003
By Leah Salterio
Inquirer News Service


GMA-7, too, set a record when it grossed 650 million pesos in revenues for May, according to its marketing president Meckoy Quioge.

"That is a 91 percent increase from our May 2002 earnings of 341million pesos," Quiogue told Inquirer Entertainment. "That's almost double what we earned in May last year."

 
The GMA-7 executive revealed this following the ABS-CBN report in its annual stockholders' meeting last Thursday that it set a record when it made one billion pesos in airtime sales for May alone.

"ABS-CBN's one billion pesos is quite big," Quioge admitted, "but that's only 27 percent of what they made in May 2002. If you relate it to the growth from the previous year, ours is more dramatic."

He said that GMA-7 has already surpassed the 500-million-peso monthly revenue mark thrice this year.

"We have set another record in sales," Quiogue said. "From January to May, our growth was already 79 percent compared to last year's."

He said GMA-7 made 1.323 billion pesos in airtime revenues from January to May 2002. For the same period this year, the network registered 3.71 billion pesos in sales.

"That's a very significant increase," Quiogue pointed out. "We're happy. ABS-CBN is doing well. We're also doing well and even better compared to last year."

He also pointed out that the network achieved the latest record without increasing its advertising rates, while ABS-CBN implemented increased rate cards in February.

He said GMA Network expects to further boost its sales with a projected rate increase by the second half of this year.

"We believe we can achieve our target without burdening the industry with an increase, although we only postponed it," Quiogue said. "We will implement our increase in July."

GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe S. Yalong expressed confidence that the network could surpass its 2002 total net income of 401million pesos in just the first five months of this year.

GMA management is very upbeat over the company's continuous and massive improvement in sales, according to Yalong.

"Previously, our revenues were only about one-third that of ABS-CBN's," Yalong said. "Now we have increased our sales to more than half their earnings in a short period. In terms of total expenses, ours are less than half their total."

GMA-7's reported revenues, according to Yalong, are from TV ads only and do not include earnings from blocktime programs, particularly from its top-rating daily noontime show, "Eat Bulaga!"

Management attributes the success to the cost efficiency of many of its programs. GMA was behind in ratings by only one percentage point in the first quarter of 2003. Based on data released by AGB Philippines as of the second quarter of 2003 covering April 1 to May 17, GMA is now tied in total day household ratings with ABS-CBN at 14 percent.

Earlier, ABS-CBN senior vice president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada told Inquirer Entertainment that its one-billion-peso gross in May brought the network's total gross so far this year to 4.1 billion pesos.

"It's a record year-to-date figure that overtook our 2002 gross sales by 23 percent," Gabunada had said. "Since ABS-CBN started operating again in 1986, this is the only time we reached one billion pesos in sales in one month."




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Post by: RMN on Jun 01, 2003 at 02:13 PM
The construction of ABS-CBN's new building, the ELJ Communications Center (9501), was a bad decision.  They borowed heavily to finance its construction and now its costing them so much money to maintain and operate while having a lot of unoccupied and idle office space. Thats why they're trying to attract prospective locators to lease space.
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Post by: indie boi on Jun 01, 2003 at 03:14 PM
My wife works in ELJ. She said the floors were constructed so badly that they had a hard time networking their computers. It looked like the IT people and the construction people never talked about proper wire placements.

Here's something unusual (at least as far as the Philippines is concerned), ELJ has a 13th floor.
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Post by: RMN on Jun 01, 2003 at 05:47 PM
The executive dining room of Meralco is located at the 13th floor I think.
Could that 13th floor have anything to do with their current woes? ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 01, 2003 at 10:34 PM
Yes, I know that Maynilad is not anymore with the Lopez group but kahit sila ang may control pa nito we also do not get adequate water services.Second as for Bayantel ,
  ;)In fairness mas madali magpakabit sa kanila ng line compared to PLDT it only takes a few weeks ,  :P BUT ang service nila quite poor,yung telephone line namin dito parati may sounds at kung tumatawag ka parating hindi maka-connect even if walang gumagamit ng line. We had two telephone lines before .One is PLDT and the other one is Bayantel after about 3 years we decided na ipaputol na lang ang Bayantel since hindi naman masyadong kailangan at mahirap tumawag sa line na ito.

 :D Hindi naman fair na sabihin the people here don't know anything about these companies kasi part na ito nang aming buhay.
 Kahit na under control kami ng Maynilad water ganon na talaga. Hindi ganon kagandahan ang service nila.

 ;)As for ABS-CBN consumer products dati kasama ito sa Boardwalk a direct and multi-level store and then ABS-CBN decided to open a store in Isetan Recto na tumagal lamang ng about a year or so.Sa ngayon kung gusto mo magkaroon ng mga teleserye pillows you could but in Dakki's Direct sales which specialize in Pillows and patented Warner Bro.,Dragon Ball Z etc.

 :)I wish to clarify that hindi ako anti- Lopez but hindi rin ako pro-GMA network ,and we all know who is the leading network in the country both in revenues and earnings and that is ABS-CBN.  :-*Okey!! ;D

I'm not saying that at all. I’m not saying wala kang alam, I wasn’t particularly referring to you.  ;D  Maynilad was under the Lopez control for such a short time so it wouldn’t be fair na sisihin sila, on the contrary I have an uncle in Paranaque na ever since he moved in that place that was 20 years ago walang tubig after the Lopez took control of Maynilad after a year nagkaroon na ng water ang villages dun.  You can verify that or kung meron taga Paranaque dito they can confirm this.   And aren’t we forgetting, maybe you are not the one who's paying the bills but for someone who does he would know that mahigit sa kalahati ang binaba ng water bills when Maynilad assumed control of MWSS and that is very seldom mention if not at all.  We always dwell on the negative that’s why.

As for Bayantel, my brother is an Engineer once in that company the problem is not within Bayantel system nasa PLDT and problema they won't interconnect with the company infact if your buying prepaid internet service cards ganyan rin ang problema not because of the ISPs but because of PLDT ginigipit nila competition nila so lalabas na bulok ang kalaban when in fact the fault lies with PLDT.

I'm not saying na that walang fault ang mga Lopezes but more often than not ang nangyayari ay mali ang perception.  I think marami ang naninira sa mga Lopezes because they are becoming so powerful and those politicians want to control the family just like what the Marcoses did.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jun 02, 2003 at 02:53 AM
Here's yet another newspaper article...


GMA-7: We earned
a 'record' P650-M in May
Posted: 10:41 PM (Manila Time) | May 31, 2003
By Leah Salterio
Inquirer News Service


GMA-7, too, set a record when it grossed 650 million pesos in revenues for May, according to its marketing president Meckoy Quioge.

"That is a 91 percent increase from our May 2002 earnings of 341million pesos," Quiogue told Inquirer Entertainment. "That's almost double what we earned in May last year."

 
The GMA-7 executive revealed this following the ABS-CBN report in its annual stockholders' meeting last Thursday that it set a record when it made one billion pesos in airtime sales for May alone.

"ABS-CBN's one billion pesos is quite big," Quioge admitted, "but that's only 27 percent of what they made in May 2002. If you relate it to the growth from the previous year, ours is more dramatic."

He said that GMA-7 has already surpassed the 500-million-peso monthly revenue mark thrice this year.

"We have set another record in sales," Quiogue said. "From January to May, our growth was already 79 percent compared to last year's."

He said GMA-7 made 1.323 billion pesos in airtime revenues from January to May 2002. For the same period this year, the network registered 3.71 billion pesos in sales.

"That's a very significant increase," Quiogue pointed out. "We're happy. ABS-CBN is doing well. We're also doing well and even better compared to last year."

He also pointed out that the network achieved the latest record without increasing its advertising rates, while ABS-CBN implemented increased rate cards in February.

He said GMA Network expects to further boost its sales with a projected rate increase by the second half of this year.

"We believe we can achieve our target without burdening the industry with an increase, although we only postponed it," Quiogue said. "We will implement our increase in July."

GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe S. Yalong expressed confidence that the network could surpass its 2002 total net income of 401million pesos in just the first five months of this year.

GMA management is very upbeat over the company's continuous and massive improvement in sales, according to Yalong.

"Previously, our revenues were only about one-third that of ABS-CBN's," Yalong said. "Now we have increased our sales to more than half their earnings in a short period. In terms of total expenses, ours are less than half their total."

GMA-7's reported revenues, according to Yalong, are from TV ads only and do not include earnings from blocktime programs, particularly from its top-rating daily noontime show, "Eat Bulaga!"

Management attributes the success to the cost efficiency of many of its programs. GMA was behind in ratings by only one percentage point in the first quarter of 2003. Based on data released by AGB Philippines as of the second quarter of 2003 covering April 1 to May 17, GMA is now tied in total day household ratings with ABS-CBN at 14 percent.

Earlier, ABS-CBN senior vice president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada told Inquirer Entertainment that its one-billion-peso gross in May brought the network's total gross so far this year to 4.1 billion pesos.

"It's a record year-to-date figure that overtook our 2002 gross sales by 23 percent," Gabunada had said. "Since ABS-CBN started operating again in 1986, this is the only time we reached one billion pesos in sales in one month."


i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D

also... what's the deal with who made more money than what???... i think instead of spending full page ads on announcing how much more money they made than their competitors... these people should be concentrating on giving their viewers better shows and improve their exisiting ones.  :P
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: MonarC on Jun 02, 2003 at 10:38 AM
i never liked gma... i don't know why but  there always seems to be something cheap lingering about the station... ;D

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 02, 2003 at 02:35 PM
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D

also... what's the deal with who made more money than what???... i think instead of spending full page ads on announcing how much more money they made than their competitors... these people should be concentrating on giving their viewers better shows and improve their exisiting ones.  :P


Mr. Quioge used to be with ABS-CBN pre-martial law days pa and rejoined the company when it reopened.  I think he and his family also used to own the frequency of Channel 23 which ABS-CBN bought from him, then he was appointed to manage Studio 23.  Nag retire siya then GMA hired him.

The reason why both stations often issue press releases specially GMA about their financial gains is because these station are and will be public.  In the case of GMA matagal na itong station na ito na nag-aaply sa PSE to go public or be listed on the stock exchange, but their application are always refused by PSE because to be able to be listed, the company are required to have a cetain amount of profit in a minimum of 3 years I think.  

One more thing why they are always harping about their increasing profit is to have favorable image for investors engage in the Stock Exchange.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: SPaCeMaN SPiFF on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:00 PM
oh, i know all about his long relatioship with the lopezes. so he retired pala. hmmmmm. (he he he. come on... if he really had any intention of retiring, why would he work for the competition instead of spending his time enjoying his "retirement"? he must've been offered a really sweet retirement  package. ;D i've met him and he's actually quite nice and friendly. i was really very surprised a couple of years ago to discover his sudden shift to GMA. and until you mentioned it, i didn't know the circumstances about it.   :o)

ok. ur right there ... they are public corporations and have stocks to sell... but don't you think taking up a whole page and such is a bit of an overkill? (maybe it's just me... but i think their efforts in one upping each other is perhaps better focused on improving their programming)  ::)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: dexterc on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:09 PM

As for Bayantel, my brother is an Engineer once in that company the problem is not within Bayantel system nasa PLDT and problema they won't interconnect with the company infact if your buying prepaid internet service cards ganyan rin ang problema not because of the ISPs but because of PLDT ginigipit nila competition nila so lalabas na bulok ang kalaban when in fact the fault lies with PLDT.



Mr. Big Boy,

Just to clarify di namin ginigipit ang mga taga bayantel and other ISP'S..its their back up batteries na may problema kaya nawawala din telepono ng BAYANTEL  pag brown out.Tsaka since FVR era.. open na yung telecom BUSINESS..di na pwede monopoly kaya sa ayaw at sa gusto ng PLDT..Makikipag interconnect sila sa other telcos...bibigyan ng slots to connect. Do you have proof na di namin pinapayagan maka konekta ang ibang telcos sa PLDT?
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:12 PM
Actually nagulat nga rin ako ng nalaman ko about Mr. Quioge, na meet ko na rin siya sa school dati.  I was surprised na he accepted a post in GMA tubong ABS-CBN yan eh pati mga anak at relatives niya is working for the station.

About his retirement ang alam ko kasi there is a rule in the company's constition na bawal mag extend o mag-postponed ng retirement kahit na gaano kagaling.  Just like sa case ni FMG magaling siya pero he has no choice but to retire siguro kunin na lang siyang consultant ng ABS-CBN.

Sa paglipat ni Mr. Quioge magagaya ng GMA ang corporate, organizational and operational structure ng ABS-CBN ganyan na nga ang nangyayari ngayon.

About dun sa press releases nila I agree over kill pero I thing only GMA is guilty of this one.  Grabe mag pa praise release GMA araw-araw meron silang praise releases pati mga executives nila may mga praise article pati awards may write-ups nakakasuka na yang kayabangan ng GMA.  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:18 PM
Mr. Big Boy,

Just to clarify di namin ginigipit ang mga taga bayantel and other ISP'S..its their back up batteries na may problema kaya nawawala din telepono ng BAYANTEL  pag brown out.Tsaka since FVR era.. open na yung telecom BUSINESS..di na pwede monopoly kaya sa ayaw at sa gusto ng PLDT..Makikipag interconnect sila sa other telcos...bibigyan ng slots to connect. Do you have proof na di namin pinapayagan maka konekta ang ibang telcos sa PLDT?

I know about the back-up batteries problema rin yun but that is not what the majority of customers are complaining minsan lang naman mag-brownout.  Ang complain centered on connectivity ang hirap comontact sa PLDT lines infact pati sa Eastern Lines and Globe Lines ganyan rin ang problema hirap comontact sa PLDT.

Di naman ako maniniwala lahat ng telcos na ito ang may kasalanan eh sa PLDT lang naman ang mahirap comonnect.

Same goes with the various ISP's infact the organization of ISPs have filed a petition to NTC about sa panggigipit ng PLDT.  I cant accept that all this ISPs and TelCos are wrong and PLDT is right.

About the standing executive order that all telcos must interconnect, I think you know better than to believe that hindi pwedeng magpalusot ang PLDT I know I have friends and a brother who are directly involve with interconnecting with PLDT.  Dami nilang palusot.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: dexterc on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:33 PM
Ang complain centered on connectivity ang hirap comontact sa PLDT lines infact pati sa Eastern Lines and Globe Lines ganyan rin ang problema hirap comontact sa PLDT.

Di naman ako maniniwala lahat ng telcos na ito ang may kasalanan eh sa PLDT lang naman ang mahirap comonnect.

About the standing executive order that all telcos must interconnect, I think you know better than to believe that maraming pwedeng palusot ang PLDT I know I have friends and a brother who are directly involve with interconnecting with PLDT.  Dami nilang palusot.

24 Hours bang mahirap kumonekta sa PLDT? or certain time lang? Regarding sa interconnection... di kasalanan ng PLDT yun kung madaming subscriber ang globe,ETPI etc. ang nahihirapan kumonekta dahil depende kung ang ciruits lang na kinuha ng mga telcos na yun SA pldt ay di enough para sa subscriber nila...bayantel and other telcos leased certain number of circuits sa PLDT para makapag interconnect..nagbibigay lang kami ng Circuits kaya di na namin kasalanan kung di pa rin maka konekta yung ibang telcos sa PLDT sa kadahilanang konting circuits lang ang kinuha nila...in fact mas pabor din sa PLDT kung mas madaming kumukuha ng circuits sa amin kasi mas malaki ang kita...dun na lang pinapadaan yung mga nagpapaputol na subs ng PLDT.


Mods sorry out of the topic na yung usapan... ;)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:39 PM
24 Hours bang mahirap kumonekta sa PLDT? or certain time lang? Regarding sa interconnection... di kasalanan ng PLDT yun kung madaming subscriber ang globe,ETPI etc. ang nahihirapan kumonekta dahil depende kung ang ciruits lang na kinuha ng mga telcos na yun SA pldt ay di enough para sa subscriber nila...bayantel and other telcos leased certain number of circuits sa PLDT para makapag interconnect..nagbibigay lang kami ng Circuits kaya di na namin kasalanan kung di pa rin maka konekta yung ibang telcos sa PLDT sa kadahilanang konting circuits lang ang kinuha nila...in fact mas pabor din sa PLDT kung mas madaming kumukuha ng circuits sa amin kasi mas malaki ang kita...dun na lang pinapadaan yung mga nagpapaputol na subs ng PLDT.


Well that's one of the problem, the lease of these circuits and lines are unreasonably high.  There was a time na pinutulan pa ng PLDT ng connection ang BayanTel because of that syndicates that are reselling lease lines thru BayanTel kaya mas lalong sumama ang service ng BayanTel.  There are a hundreds of reasons pa pero its too technical and I'm not an engineer so I can't accurately explain what the engineers have told me.  

Anyway as I have said I'm more inclined to believe these small companies when they say they are being taken advantage of and ginigpit by PLDT than to believe PLDT.  The majority can't be wrong all the time.

BTW I have both PLDT and BayanTel lines ang hirap rin tumawag sa BayanTel using PLDT same situation rin when calling Eastern from PLDT.  But when I call Eastern or Globe Thru my BayanTel phone wala naman problema. 1 plus 1 makes 2 right?

 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: dexterc on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:53 PM


Anyway as I have said I'm more inclined to believe these small companies when they say they are being taken advantage of and ginigpit by PLDT than to believe PLDT.  The majority can't be wrong all the time.


ANd vice versa..majority cant be right all the time too  ;) peace
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 02, 2003 at 03:55 PM
Hehehe... nahuli mo ko dun ah.

P.S. May job opening ba sa PLDT ngayon?  Apply kaya ako.

 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 03, 2003 at 09:16 AM
 :o Yes, GMA had increase its airtime revenues but ABS-CBA still had a bigger airtime revenues than GMA.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 04, 2003 at 12:11 PM
ABS-CBN to elevate cable channeling issue to SC if NTC rule is unfavorable
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Monday, June 02, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. said it would not hesitate to elevate its case to the Supreme Court should the National Telecommunications Commission insist that its cable television firm SkyCable Central CATV Inc. violated rules when it changed the channel assignment of GMA Network Inc. from channel 12 to channel 14.

ABS-CBN chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez said cable operators have their own prerogative to decide on which channel it wants to carry a particular TV broadcasting network.

"That is the key issue between the KBP (Kapisanan ng Brodkasters sa Pilipinas and the PCTA (Philippine Cable Television Association) because KBP wants those channels where they are on free TV. The PCTA, on the other hand, says it is the right of cable operators to decide what channels and where to carry it," Lopez said.

"So that is an issue that would go all the way to the Supreme Court because it’s not an issue that the PCTA would accede to because it is a critical question in terms of growth. We don’t have to ask anyone for permission," Lopez said.

Lopez has also assailed the NTC for unjustly intervening in the row between GMA and ABS-CBN or SkyCable. "Why will our marketing strategy be subject to the approval of the regulator when all along, fundamentally, the direction of the government is let the free markets operate. If the NTC wants to interfere, the least they can do is to hold a public hearing and hear the comments of the cable operators before they decide on an issue which is more significant than simply the view of one free TV operator," he said.

"In America, the cable operators reserve the right to put the channels wherever they seize it, because for a pay-TV service, where you put the channel is the most significant marketing opportunity you have," Lopez further said.

SkyCable earlier asked the NTC to reconsider its recent ruling that the company violated NTC circular no. 04-88-88 which requires cable TV operators to carry the broadcast channels on their channel of transmission (i.e.GMA 7- on channel 7).

SkyCAble said compelling cable TV operators to carry the TV networks on the same channel number at which it is transmitting would result in serious technical, financial and business repurcussions.

Doing so would require massive investment not only in the form of equipment but also manpower and other incidental expenses, which will seriously, financial and businesswise, hurt the respondent and ultimately redound to the prejudice of its subsribers. SkyCable said.

GMA-7 legal counsel Roberto Rafael Lucila of the Belo Gozon Elma Parel Asuncion & Lucila law offices, said the country’s TV network expects the NTC to implement the decision on the re-channeling case soon to comply with the agency’s rules and regulations. "There is simply no credible reason why the decision of the NTC and its rules and regulations should not be followed by the three cable companies. SkyCable and its affiliates can not just simply ignore the fact that they applied for their respective authority to operate and have operated for the past 10 years under the same rules and regulations. They must therefore respect the NTC decision," Lucila said.

Lucila said GMA-7’s complaint for unfair competition against ABS-CBN Corp. has already been served and they expect the Lopez controlled network to answer the complaint within 15 days from receipt.

He said the NTC has also issued summons to SkyCable, Philippine Home Cable Holdings, and Pilipino Cable Corp. to answer the complaint for monopoly, signal distortion and degradation, as well as unlawful cross-ownership, within the same period of 15 days. The hearing, he said, was set on July 1, 2003.

In its complaint filed with the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, GMA-7 is seeking payment for damages worth about P12 million from the three cable operators as compension for "acts of unfair competition, corporate combinations and manipulations as well as unjust, oppressive, high-handed and unlawful business practices."

GMA-7 said the transfer of its signal to channel 14 from the original channel 12 in the cable firms’ system was done "without notice to the viewing public, the NTC and the plaintiff.

This rechanneling allegedly caused "disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA-7’s TV shows and resulted in the distortion and degradation of quality.

Because of this alleged signal degradation, GMA-7 claimed that the ratings of its shows were affected as the signal were usually being done during the airing of the network’s top-rating shows.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 04, 2003 at 01:34 PM
 ::)This is just the start of the long uphill battle. Well,cable television only accounts to a very small percentage of the entire t.v. audience share.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Jun 06, 2003 at 12:23 AM
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D


and Mr Yalung, and Mr Dexter, and Mr Remulla

all coming from ABS CBN (post 1986)

Ganyan talaga buhay, one day you work for PLDT,  then next, your are pirated by Globe and finally nasa Sun Cellular ka.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Jun 06, 2003 at 09:30 PM
It turns out Mr. Yalung, GMA 7's chief finance officer, was the one who oversaw ABS-CBN's public offering in 1992.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Jun 07, 2003 at 09:51 PM
I think he and his family also used to own the frequency of Channel 23 which ABS-CBN bought from him, then he was appointed to manage Studio 23.  Nag retire siya then GMA hired him.


Studio 23 and its frequency was part of AMCARA Broadcast Network owned by Cady Carandang, one of the pioneer engineers of ABS CBN. ABS CBN bought into the said company obtaining management control.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Jun 07, 2003 at 09:58 PM
ABS-CBN to elevate cable channeling issue to SC if NTC rule is unfavorable
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Monday, June 02, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. said it would not hesitate to elevate its case to the Supreme Court should the National Telecommunications Commission insist that its cable television firm SkyCable Central CATV Inc. violated rules when it changed the channel assignment of GMA Network Inc. from channel 12 to channel 14.

ABS-CBN chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez said cable operators have their own prerogative to decide on which channel it wants to carry a particular TV broadcasting network.

"That is the key issue between the KBP (Kapisanan ng Brodkasters sa Pilipinas and the PCTA (Philippine Cable Television Association) because KBP wants those channels where they are on free TV. The PCTA, on the other hand, says it is the right of cable operators to decide what channels and where to carry it," Lopez said.

"So that is an issue that would go all the way to the Supreme Court because it’s not an issue that the PCTA would accede to because it is a critical question in terms of growth. We don’t have to ask anyone for permission," Lopez said.

Lopez has also assailed the NTC for unjustly intervening in the row between GMA and ABS-CBN or SkyCable. "Why will our marketing strategy be subject to the approval of the regulator when all along, fundamentally, the direction of the government is let the free markets operate. If the NTC wants to interfere, the least they can do is to hold a public hearing and hear the comments of the cable operators before they decide on an issue which is more significant than simply the view of one free TV operator," he said.

"In America, the cable operators reserve the right to put the channels wherever they seize it, because for a pay-TV service, where you put the channel is the most significant marketing opportunity you have," Lopez further said.

SkyCable earlier asked the NTC to reconsider its recent ruling that the company violated NTC circular no. 04-88-88 which requires cable TV operators to carry the broadcast channels on their channel of transmission (i.e.GMA 7- on channel 7).

SkyCAble said compelling cable TV operators to carry the TV networks on the same channel number at which it is transmitting would result in serious technical, financial and business repurcussions.

Doing so would require massive investment not only in the form of equipment but also manpower and other incidental expenses, which will seriously, financial and businesswise, hurt the respondent and ultimately redound to the prejudice of its subsribers. SkyCable said.

GMA-7 legal counsel Roberto Rafael Lucila of the Belo Gozon Elma Parel Asuncion & Lucila law offices, said the country’s TV network expects the NTC to implement the decision on the re-channeling case soon to comply with the agency’s rules and regulations. "There is simply no credible reason why the decision of the NTC and its rules and regulations should not be followed by the three cable companies. SkyCable and its affiliates can not just simply ignore the fact that they applied for their respective authority to operate and have operated for the past 10 years under the same rules and regulations. They must therefore respect the NTC decision," Lucila said.

Lucila said GMA-7’s complaint for unfair competition against ABS-CBN Corp. has already been served and they expect the Lopez controlled network to answer the complaint within 15 days from receipt.

He said the NTC has also issued summons to SkyCable, Philippine Home Cable Holdings, and Pilipino Cable Corp. to answer the complaint for monopoly, signal distortion and degradation, as well as unlawful cross-ownership, within the same period of 15 days. The hearing, he said, was set on July 1, 2003.

In its complaint filed with the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, GMA-7 is seeking payment for damages worth about P12 million from the three cable operators as compension for "acts of unfair competition, corporate combinations and manipulations as well as unjust, oppressive, high-handed and unlawful business practices."

GMA-7 said the transfer of its signal to channel 14 from the original channel 12 in the cable firms’ system was done "without notice to the viewing public, the NTC and the plaintiff.

This rechanneling allegedly caused "disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA-7’s TV shows and resulted in the distortion and degradation of quality.

Because of this alleged signal degradation, GMA-7 claimed that the ratings of its shows were affected as the signal were usually being done during the airing of the network’s top-rating shows.


Don't you think this should also be posted on the other thread (GMA hits SkyCable)  ;)

Also, I feel most uncomfortable to read that Sky is the cable tv firm of ABS CBN. Yes, there may be common ownership but Sky/Central/Beyond is under the corporate umbrella of Benpres/Lopez Inc, having their own shareholders distinct from that of ABS CBN!

During my days in Sky, I was never answerable to any people from ABS!
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: DViant on Jun 08, 2003 at 12:05 AM
ABS-CBN is right. Why should they be compeled to carry GMA-7? After all SkyCable's there and they should do with it as they please. If they don't want to carry there rival so be it. Let the subscribers decide whether to support there decision through there wallets. It's like that Star TV brooohaha where in content providers are compeled to service everyone irregardless of the fact that it'll be profitable for them or not.

If I was GMA-7 I'd buy a cable company (Destiny) and compete instead of suing ABS-CBN. Talo lang yung viewer as they're each spending money to convict and defend themselves.

I find this very retarded. Oh God... take me away from this stupidity...
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Battousai on Jun 08, 2003 at 12:39 AM
Wouldnt it be stupid to remove GMA7 from Sky or any cable company's channel set-up?
I mean, I dont think ABS will be so full of it to deny their subscribers a channel(7) that Im sure theyve grown accustomed to watching, aside from Dos.
Hassle pa sa subscribers kung kailangan maglagay pa sila ng splitter or kalasin pa nila yung antenna sa TV para lang makita kung ano palabas sa 7.
I think mas may kaso pa yung right ng Sky to assign channel 7(12) to another channel, than removing 7 altogether.
Medyo nalalabuan na rin ako, a? ???
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Jun 08, 2003 at 11:12 AM
A bit OT, but is "televiewer" a Pinoy coined term???
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 08, 2003 at 12:05 PM
Studio 23 and its frequency was part of AMCARA Broadcast Network owned by Cady Carandang, one of the pioneer engineers of ABS CBN. ABS CBN bought into the said company obtaining management control.

Oh right, sorry my mistake I confused the two from each other.  

 :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Jun 08, 2003 at 10:17 PM
Think of it like you built a 'house' (SkyCable) with 50+ rooms (channels)

Then you invite 'guests' (HBO, CNN, ESPN, etc) to stay in the rooms. You pay these popular guests so that they stay in your house and increase its value. There are other 'guests' (WINS, Arirang, Russian) that they pay the 'owner' rent just to have a 'room' of their own in the house.

Then the government says you are required to provide room to mandatory guests (TV Broadcasters, GMA included). Government says that they should occupy the room that has the same number as the guests to retain their identity if it is possible (see NTC Memo Circular linked in the GMA Hits Sky Thread).

You explained to the government that it is not possible since the room will be a mess hence they are given another room.

For ten years the broadcast guests stayed in their 'rooms' for free nor did they ask payment from the house owner.

Then one of the mandatory guests (ABS) 'requested' that they be transfered to another room for one reason or another. The owner acceded but told the other mandatory guests to do the rigodon of changing rooms to maintain their proper queue.

Another mandatory guest (GMA) complained that their new room is not to their liking. So they made sumbong to the government. Instead of politely asking the owner of the house that they be returned to their own room, nag-sampa ng demanda!

If you are the owners of the house, pinatuloy mo na yung mga mandatory guests dahil napipilitan lang, namimili pa ng sariling quarto!
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 09, 2003 at 12:05 PM
 ??? I don't know what do you mean of this? Ang tignin ko sana nag-usap nalang itong dalawang istasyon na ito. para hindi umabot sa ganitong sitwasyon!
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Post by: viper on Jun 09, 2003 at 06:33 PM
Yun na nga eh. Had GMA politely asked Sky to be returned to their original channel, (pakiusap ba!) instead of going to the NTC demanding a total channel reallocation (which is technically impossible) wala sana problema. Now, Gabby Lopez have already stated their group will not take any adverse orders from NTC sitting down and are willing to take the case up to the Supreme Court (as though the SC has no backlog of cases!)

Kung ikaw ay nakikituloy sa isang bahay, di bat  tamang asal lang ang humiling na mailagay sa magandang kuwarto?

I believe though the discussion is taking a different route away from the title of the topic don't you think?
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 10, 2003 at 09:55 AM
 :)I do not think so ,It is quite informative although the topic here is about ABS-CBN and GMA . Ang pinalalabas kasi noong isang t.v. station na iyan ay may sabotage parati sa kanila yung isang network keso from power interruptions, signal disruption and so on and so forth. Kaya ganon lang ang awayan noong dalawang istasyon ng t.v. na ito.If I am right during the 1994 Miss Universe pageant coverage nagsimula ang mahigpit na awayan noong dalawang t.v.station na ito!Minsan over the belt na ang mga parinig noong isa like yung defunct t.v. show nila Janno Gibbs, Leo Martinez ,Anjo Yllana na may inihagis na manok at sinusulat pa ni Janno Gibbs kung ilan beses dumapo ang manok na ito? Remember the show?At yung station ID nila na tinapakan ang manok kasi gusto nito maging malaki at naging GMA ito .  I am Sick and tired of these awayan pati ba naman mga employees nang dalawang t.v. stations na ito may mga awayan din na nangyayari.
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Post by: acyl_halide on Jun 13, 2003 at 12:17 AM
ABS-CBN suspends
noontime show hosts
Posted: 9:25 PM (Manila Time) | Jun. 12, 2003
INQ7.net

ABS-CBN decided to suspend hosts John Estrada and Willie Revillame for one week over on-air "inappropriate language or conduct" in the noontime program "Masayang Tanghali, Bayan."

The suspension will take effect from June 16 to 21.

 
In a statement sent to INQ7.net, the network said the hosts committed prohibited acts under their respective talent contract agreements "despite constant and repeated warnings to be conscious of the sensibilities of the viewers."

Because of this, ABS-CBN "found sufficient cause to exercise its remedies under its own agreements with...the hosts (Estrada and Revillame)."

The network was reportedly flooded with complaints regarding certain on-air antics of the mentioned hosts that offended viewers.

The ABS-CBN move, the statement said, was in line with its "commitment of self-regulation and policing the television industry."

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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 13, 2003 at 10:43 PM
 ;)Good thing for ABS-CBN. As for GMA they should also had self regulation
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Post by: viper on Jun 14, 2003 at 02:01 PM
Expect side comments by the Eat Bulaga hosts  on the suspension of their rivals!  :(

Also, I saw banners on EDSA proclaiming GMA at 53! Did they celebrate their 50th year? This is surely their response to the 50 years of Philippine TV ads of ABS (as if mas nauna sila!)

To set the record straight, ABS CBN celebrates 50 years of Philippine Television being the pioneer station that introduced television here. Bolinao Electronics, the original company that was eventually renamed Alto Broadcasting System (ABS) introduced the first black and white television transmission here. Eventually ABS was merged with Chronicle Broadcasting Network (CBN)of the Lopezes thus becoming the largest network then.

What GMA is celebrating could be their 53rd year of existense starting with Radio. Compare that to the 57 years of ABSCBN starting with radio.

To be strict about it though, ABS CBN as a company was silent for 14 years when its properties and frequencies were appropriated by the Marcos cronies for their own free use during the martial law and marcos years.

GMA on the other hand managed to be in business as they made sipsip to the powers that be (and the cronies were not interested on their facilities as it is the most antiquated of all the networks then. In fact, Republic Broadcasting System (GMA) was the last network to shift to color!)
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 19, 2003 at 02:19 PM
The war of the network continues.  It is now heating up once again now on a new front, the war for Chinovelas supremacy.  

Meteor Garden started the trend it became phenomenal barely a month on its premiere.  GMA as usual fallowed the lead and got its own chinovela but will it fly, will it click (I doubt that it would)?  

I saw in GMA's newscast that their new Chinovela will include one of F4's member and also claimed that "kapuso" na nila ang F4.  Funny, GMA is acting like a second fiddle once again they even claimed that the rest of the F4 will be in that new chinovela making it sound that they will be a regular, but someone told me the other 3 members will just be making a guest appearance.  

I think this new front on the ongoing war of the network will fizzle out at once because the phenomena that is called chinovela is cause by this boyband F4 and without them chinovela has nothing special going for them to sustain the viewers interest.  So sorry na lang ang GMA.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 19, 2003 at 02:35 PM
 :) ABS-CBN is the oldest television network period!. GMA FM radio station keep on bashing the F4 they call them pineapple hair etc... in one of their anime programs. Look who's riding the F4 popularity! In most message boards ABS-CBN vs GMa channel 7 is aways the topic . Now 5566 vs F4  . My GMA insider told me that 5566 had  some following too during its 5:00-5:30 pm but it is not that big compared to F4. Poor dubbing?  
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Post by: viper on Jun 20, 2003 at 06:02 PM
I may have mentioned these in other threads but I understand ABS spent for a dubbing machine that can practically synchronize the length of the spiel with the movement of the lips being synched. That's why in the ABS telenovelas (spanish-mexican series), the spiels are spoken very fast para sabay sa buka ng bibig. The same is done for the chinovela (chinese/korean/jap)

For the ABS teleseryes (Pinoy series) problema na ng malaysia and kenya to dub it in their local tongue to understand the series. Sa GMA, kaya ba nila yun? (to export locally produced series)  ;)
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 21, 2003 at 04:41 PM
       :( Guess what, They had another "Chinovela" upcoming. "Lavander" . I hope that they dubbed it right. Look at GMA teleseries it is not that interesting to me. They just drag the story too long like the show of Dingdong Dante and Tanya Garcia, it was supposed to be finished .
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Post by: acyl_halide on Jun 21, 2003 at 06:30 PM
I think GMA's chinovelas and telenovelas' dubbing actually capture the culture they are from. I notice that most telenovelas on GMA are dubbed in Filipino but with distinct Spanish accent unlike the telenovelas in ABS-CBN. I caught some episodesof My MVP Valentine and I think they did what they did with telenovelas, they dubbed this chinovela in Filipino but with a somewhat subtle Chinese accent.

As for the extension of Sana Ikaw Na Nga, It was supposed to end when it should have ended however they extended it due to the unavaialbility of Lorna Tolentino to start on her new soap with GMA since she's stuck with ABS-CBN's Kay Tagal Kang Hinintay.
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Post by: FASTBACK on Jun 22, 2003 at 12:21 PM
I may have mentioned these in other threads but I understand ABS spent for a dubbing machine that can practically synchronize the length of the spiel with the movement of the lips being synched. That's why in the ABS telenovelas (spanish-mexican series), the spiels are spoken very fast para sabay sa buka ng bibig. The same is done for the chinovela (chinese/korean/jap)

For the ABS teleseryes (Pinoy series) problema na ng malaysia and kenya to dub it in their local tongue to understand the series. Sa GMA, kaya ba nila yun? (to export locally produced series)  ;)

I personally saw the telenovela of ABS-CBN in malaysia no dubbing was done, they only put a caption.  They are so into pinoy teleserye there.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 22, 2003 at 06:50 PM
 ???With Chinese accent? ::)I did not notice the Chinese accent.So far the only telenovela from GMA that I liked the dubbing is the Betty la fea.I prefer the way ABS-CBN dubbers than GMA.
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Post by: viper on Jun 23, 2003 at 12:20 PM
I think GMA's chinovelas and telenovelas' dubbing actually capture the culture they are from. I notice that most telenovelas on GMA are dubbed in Filipino but with distinct Spanish accent unlike the telenovelas in ABS-CBN. I caught some episodesof My MVP Valentine and I think they did what they did with telenovelas, they dubbed this chinovela in Filipino but with a somewhat subtle Chinese accent.


Really? But does it help?

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As for the extension of Sana Ikaw Na Nga, It was supposed to end when it should have ended however they extended it due to the unavaialbility of Lorna Tolentino to start on her new soap with GMA since she's stuck with ABS-CBN's Kay Tagal Kang Hinintay.

Malapit na bang matapos yung sa ABS? Don't watch it kasi. Maybe I should ask my kid ;D

Nevertheless, baka Kay Tagal Pa Rin Nilang hihintayin si LT! Ano to, GMA puro hand me downs?
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 24, 2003 at 08:14 AM
 :)Grabe ka naman.Bakit galit ka ba sa ABS-CBN?As for the dubbers of the Poor Prince well, So-so .Yesterday while watching MVP Valentine I have seen that the lip movements do not follow the voice dubbing several times!
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Post by: gurang on Jun 24, 2003 at 11:48 PM
Now this is silly. Both ABS and GMA are claiming that they had the last interview of Senator Cayetano. Not only is it insignificant who had the last interview, it also comes across as a bit crass.
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Post by: viper on Jun 25, 2003 at 12:58 PM
Now this is silly. Both ABS and GMA are claiming that they had the last interview of Senator Cayetano. Not only is it insignificant who had the last interview, it also comes across as a bit crass.

But come to think of it, both maybe true. Each have their respective network's last interview with the senator.  ;)
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Post by: gurang on Jun 25, 2003 at 01:00 PM
But come to think of it, both maybe true. Each have their respective network's last interview with the senator.  ;)

Tama ka diyan, kaibigan!  ;D
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Post by: dexterc on Jun 25, 2003 at 01:04 PM
One thing i hate about these two channels...di nila sinusunod yung tamang oras ng mga programming nila...meteor garden 6:30 na kung matapos  >:( pati yung sa GMA-7 mga ganung oras na din kung matapos  >:( kaya bibihira ako manood
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Post by: indie boi on Jun 25, 2003 at 01:28 PM
Not following time schedules is actually illegal. I don't know why the government is not giving them a warning about it.
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Post by: viper on Jun 25, 2003 at 09:31 PM
Not following time schedules are not really illegal. However, commercial overloading that more often than not results to overtime shows is frowned upon by the KBP hence sanctions are imposed on the erring station after due process.
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Post by: indie boi on Jun 25, 2003 at 10:29 PM
Not following time schedules are not really illegal. However, commercial overloading that more often than not results to overtime shows is frowned upon by the KBP hence sanctions are imposed on the erring station after due process.

Really? I can't remember where I read it but i think it is a stipulated regulation for TV stations to follow their time schedules. From what I've read, it's illegal because you're basically keeping your audience captive. I think I read it in one of the sunday magazines -- I'll have to double check though.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 26, 2003 at 03:16 PM
 ;)Actually, Ganon naman ang halos lahat ng istasyon ng t.v. they do not follow program time .
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Post by: viper on Jun 27, 2003 at 01:08 PM
Really? I can't remember where I read it but i think it is a stipulated regulation for TV stations to follow their time schedules. From what I've read, it's illegal because you're basically keeping your audience captive. I think I read it in one of the sunday magazines -- I'll have to double check though.

Let me re-state my response. When I said not illegal is in the context of having no law that makes 'tardiness' a punishable crime for TV stations. However, the KBP has strict rules regarding keeping times hence you may also consider it 'illegal' or should I say, improper. At the end of the day, the viewers must make themselves heard that they will not tolerate non-conformance to time skeds! (especially for the sake of airing overloaded advertisements.  :)
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 30, 2003 at 06:36 AM
 ;)It is because of commercials.
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Post by: indie boi on Jun 30, 2003 at 10:15 AM
It's not just commercials though, it's a devious way of "hamletting" televiewers, for lack of a better word.

I forgot the industry that is used for this dirty tactic but what happens is, if a station's show does not follow its schedule, the viewers who watch the show will not want to change channels anymore because they've already missed 10 or 15 minutes of the other channel's show.

For example, may telenovela kang pinapanood sa Dos from 7 - 7:30. Paano mo pa masusundan yung 7:30 - 8 na telenovela sa GMA kung matatapos yung 7- 7:30 show ng Dos ng 7:45? You've already missed 15 minutes of a 30-minute show. What happens is, you'll just resign yourself to watching the next show in Dos.

It's a method that has been discussed extensively by one of the sunday magazines years ago when, sorry to say this, Channel 2 started using this tactic.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jun 30, 2003 at 11:04 AM
 ??? I don't know "why" are do you say that Channel 2 started it! What I know is that it was started by other stations before channel 2. Kasi may kaibigan ng friend ko who works before sa " broadcast city"  at ginagawa din daw nila ito before.May galit ka ba sa Dos? pereho lang sila na hindi sumusunod sa mga program schedules.
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Post by: indie boi on Jun 30, 2003 at 11:31 AM
??? I don't know "why" are do you say that Channel 2 started it! What I know is that it was started by other stations before channel 2. Kasi may kaibigan ng friend ko who works before sa " broadcast city"  at ginagawa din daw nila ito before.May galit ka ba sa Dos? pereho lang sila na hindi sumusunod sa mga program schedules.

Dude, don't get your panties up in a bunch. :)

If you're going to read my post really, really closely you will notice that I am relaying information I read in the magazine. In other words, the information did not originate from me.

Peace out.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jul 08, 2003 at 12:08 PM
 :)Peace din, sa iyo! Hindi mo kasi ibinigay kung anong magazine ang source mo.
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Post by: indie boi on Jul 08, 2003 at 12:10 PM
:)Peace din, sa iyo! Hindi mo kasi ibinigay kung anong magazine ang source mo.

It's been so long, in fact years na since I read the article, and the information was insignificant then, kaya hindi ko na tinandaan. Don't worry if I come across it again, I'll definitely tell you.  :)
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Post by: kinyo on Jul 09, 2003 at 11:11 PM
kapag natapos ang upgrade ng NLEX, tiba-tiba na naman ang kapamilya

kahit na mas mayaman ang ABS-CBN, bilib din ako sa GMA for keeping up with the competition
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:00 AM
kapag natapos ang upgrade ng NLEX, tiba-tiba na naman ang kapamilya

kahit na mas mayaman ang ABS-CBN, bilib din ako sa GMA for keeping up with the competition

NLEX?  What's that?
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Post by: Sauron Cookie on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:01 AM
kapag natapos ang upgrade ng NLEX, tiba-tiba na naman ang kapamilya


I got lost on this one. Sori, medyo pakieksplika nang konti. Thanks.  :)
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Post by: Sauron Cookie on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:02 AM
NLEX?  What's that?

I think he means the North Luzon Expressway. But i still can't follow.  :)
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jul 10, 2003 at 11:05 AM
Huh? What's the connection?
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Post by: Sen.Almondski on Jul 10, 2003 at 04:45 PM
Huh? What's the connection?

Baka merong project ang korporasyon sa NLEX  ??? Daang milyones na budget ang sangkot kapag pinaguusapan ang NLEX  ;) baka lang :-X
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Post by: viper on Jul 11, 2003 at 10:22 AM
People can't really distinguish one company from the other. As far as they are concerned, its Lopez! Even if NLEX brings in lots of money, it does not affect ABS directly as they are different companies with different shareholders though they may have common officers. Each company succeeds or fails on its own merit. It just very unfortunate that problems of individual companies crop up simultaneously i.e. Meralco with its refund, Maynilad because of poor due diligence, Bayantel because of diminishing profits, Sky with its cashflow and collection problems, the mother company has its hands full. Majority of their problems is that they have borrowed heavily using foreign funds such that the sudden devalation last 1997 caught all of them flatfooted!  ABS on the other hand, inspite of being the dominant tv network, has to tighten its belt in view of diminished earning potential due to the effects of the sept 11 bombings.

So, my take on this is NLEX and ABS are two different companies. Period.
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Post by: Noel_Vera on Jul 11, 2003 at 10:35 AM
I like BBC best, actually...  ;D
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Post by: gurang on Jul 11, 2003 at 07:57 PM
I like BBC best, actually...  ;D

Amen.

The shows during BBC Weekend are one of my few reasons for turning on the tube during the weekends. The BBC entertainment shows I do get to see are almost always great. BBC News gave the most honest reporting during the Iraq War, and the presenters do not have the sanitized quality of your CNN Internationl presenter (except perhaps Richard Quest). And they once did have a very funny film critic in the person of Barry Norman.
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Post by: Ek-ek on Jul 13, 2003 at 08:37 PM
 :) Sa local ,I prefer the way GMA delivers the news.
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Post by: Dr. Lecter on Aug 21, 2003 at 08:07 PM
When we speak about production value, content and visual appeal i still think ABS-CBN remains the expert on these. Although i can admit that there are some GMA  sitcoms that are a notch funnier, variety shows that are an inch more entertaining, and public affairs programs that are deeper in presentation, when it's a head-to-head battle, i can rely on ABS-CBN to constantly win the game. Take for example the battle between Maalaala Mo Kaya and Magpakailanman --- for a week or two i watch that of Mel Changco because in fairness those were good episodes. I knew ratings would turn sour for Charo Santos but look at Maalaala Mo Kaya now, they have reinforced their content and competed head on. In ratings tragedies like this, ABS-CBN always knows how to strongly arm themselves to leave the battlefield as the runaway winner. Almost the same scenario with their news. When there are big stories, say the Oakwood attack, ABS-CBN knows how to collect themselves together, sent forth an army of news crew and be there right where the news happens. The TUNAY NA MAAASAHAN slogan fits the king, as they say. What do i think about ABS-CBN? It is their reliability and resilience at any given time.
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Post by: viper on Aug 22, 2003 at 09:40 PM
:) Sa local ,I prefer the way GMA delivers the news.

I hate Mike Enriquez's voice. Naka-irita sa tenga!  >:(

Kahit sa radyo. Ganun din!
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Post by: RMN on Sep 06, 2003 at 02:30 PM
GMA Network resigns from KBP
 
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 09/05/2003

 

The Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (KBP) will not act on GMA Network’s resignation from the organization, until after the various cases filed against the network with the KBP have been disposed of and after GMA pays what is due the group, The STAR learned yesterday.

The KBP board, chaired by Cerge Remonde, in its meeting last Wednesday also accepted the resignation of KBP president Jose Antonio Veloso, a representative of GMA Network, and named executive vice-president Pinky Aseron to succeed him. Aseron took her oath on Wednesday.

GMA Network chairman Felipe Gozon, in a letter addressed to Remonde sent earlier this week, informed the KBP of the broadcasting company’s decision to resign from KBP, without stating any reason.

A source from the network, however, told The STAR that GMA wants KBP to agree to the network’s proposal to lift the current 18 minute per hour cap on commercials placement and any limit for that matter.

During its board meeting, the KBP formally acknowledged receipt of the letter of resignation of GMA.

Aseron also told The STAR in a telephone interview that the KBP by-laws prevent the group from taking action upon GMA’s resignation until after the cases pending before KBP against GMA have been disposed of and until GMA pays its outstanding dues.

In particular, section 7 of the by-laws states that any member may resign upon payment of fees due the organization, provided that no action shall be taken on such resignation if the member has a pending case with the KBP.

"Once these cases have been decided upon, that’s the time the KBP will act on GMA’s resignation," a KBP board member said.

Most of these cases against GMA involve violations of provisions of the Television Code, a set of rules promulgated by the broadcasting industry as part of their self-regulation.

One of these cases involves obscenity, in particular certain foul‚ statements uttered by Startalk host Rossana Roces in her show aired over GMA 7. The second one involves GMA news anchor Mike Enriquez who in several instances allegedly lambasted rival ABS-CBN on air, which is expressly prohibited in the Code. The third one involves commercial overloading. The rules provide for a maximum 18 minutes per hour of commercials.

A GMA official told The STAR that the network resigned from KBP as its membership in the organization is no longer beneficial to it.

A KBP source on the one hand revealed that GMA 7 knew that a suspension by the KBP was forthcoming and resigning now would prevent GMA from being put in a bad light. "Management of GMA also probably does not realize the implications of its move, especially on the advertisers," the source added.

There are reports that the Advertising Board (Ad Board), also headed by Remonde, will be meeting soon to discuss the possible implications of GMA’s resignation from KBP. But this early, The STAR learned that most of the major advertising agency associations in the country are already worried about the repercussions of GMA’s decision.

But most of these associations said they have been invited by GMA Network to discuss the matter and until after the meeting, they would not be in a position to judge GMA’s action. "We have also not received any advice from the KBP. In fact, we just read from The STAR about GMA’s resignation," one advertising executive said.

On the other hand, a highly placed source said GMA 7 has been barraged by questions from the advertising industry that it was forced to schedule meetings with the different organizations.

Boy Pangilinan of the 4As (Association of Accredited Advertising Agencies) told The STAR that their only concern is that if GMA is no longer part of KBP, it will no longer be a member of the Ad Board and therefore no longer covered by self-regulation. He refused to elaborate.

The head of one of the country’s largest advertising industry groups meanwhile said that as much as possible, the industry wants "to save the situation."

"But we will abide by whatever the Ad Board will decide eventually on the matter," the official said.

There are some ‘maverick’ agencies which this early are toying on the idea of including a clause in their broadcast order that if GMA violates current practices, the former reserves the right not to pay. "Expect the others however to ask GMA to reconsider its decision," an industry executive said.

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Sep 06, 2003 at 11:59 PM
GMA Network resigns from KBP
 
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes
The Philippine Star 09/05/2003

 
Most of these cases against GMA involve violations of provisions of the Television Code, a set of rules promulgated by the broadcasting industry as part of their self-regulation.

One of these cases involves obscenity, in particular certain foul‚ statements uttered by Startalk host Rossana Roces in her show aired over GMA 7. The second one involves GMA news anchor Mike Enriquez who in several instances allegedly lambasted rival ABS-CBN on air, which is expressly prohibited in the Code. The third one involves commercial overloading. The rules provide for a maximum 18 minutes per hour of commercials.

A GMA official told The STAR that the network resigned from KBP as its membership in the organization is no longer beneficial to it.

A KBP source on the one hand revealed that GMA 7 knew that a suspension by the KBP was forthcoming and resigning now would prevent GMA from being put in a bad light. "Management of GMA also probably does not realize the implications of its move, especially on the advertisers," the source added.


This another tantrum by this Network only goes to show how insecure and childish they are.

GMA network can't even take responsibility for their action.  Mike Enriquez’s unethical and below the belt paninira to ABS-CBN and also the Lopezes and their company like Meralco are a regular fare in all his programs, I saw and heard it myself.

Now we can all see what they meant by Serbisyong Totoo , it's service for themselves and not to the public.

Apart from this issue they are still forcing SkyCable to rechannel all the VHF station to its original channel assignments regardless of the technical improbability and practicality just so they can bully and harass SkyCable.

tsk tsk tsk... It's only a matter of time before this network self destructs.


 ;D

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Post by: viper on Sep 12, 2003 at 09:34 PM
This another tantrum by this Network only goes to show how insecure and childish they are.


tsk tsk tsk... It's only a matter of time before this network self destructs.


 ;D



tik - tok  -  tik  -   tok   ;D :D ;D :D

Basically, GMA wants to overload its programs with commercials in order to meet its income from ads targets. Compared to ABS, GMA's rates are cheaper so they want to resort to quantity to make habol in income. They could have increased their rates and stay within the KBP mandated limits but that would push their prices closer to ABS which they do not want (because that would effectively make ABS rates competitive compared to them).

So, they would rather piss off their viewers by bombarding them with more commercials instead of charging their advertisers more.

SO where is the service?
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Post by: cbs on Sep 13, 2003 at 03:20 AM
I hate Mike Enriquez's voice. Naka-irita sa tenga!  >:(

Kahit sa radyo. Ganun din!

I couldn't agree with you more!  ;D It really baffles me how far he got as a broadcaster!  ???
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Sep 13, 2003 at 06:11 PM
I couldn't agree with you more!  ;D It really baffles me how far he got as a broadcaster!  ???

What is even more baffling is, that he received local and international recognition as best news anchor.  Are we wrong on seeing him as an annoying and oa news reader?

I often catch him reading a tragic and sad news with a happy and joyfull expression on both his face and voice.  Paano kaya naging best news anchor in Asia si Mr. Enriquez???

 ???
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Post by: RMN on Sep 13, 2003 at 08:05 PM
When he was still an FM radio dj, he used the name  "Baby Mike" .

Aside from being an news anchor, he is concurrently head of GMA's radio Network. I think was also responsible for programming WKC.
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Post by: Grimlock on Sep 15, 2003 at 12:41 PM
GMA is still the best, the awards speaks for itself!
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Sep 15, 2003 at 03:28 PM
GMA is still the best, the awards speaks for itself!

FYI if we count the number of awards both station got since the beggining.  Mangongolelat ang GMA.

And you're right let the awards speaks for itself.  ;D
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Post by: T-850 on Sep 15, 2003 at 05:55 PM
Neither. Both stations air too many numb and dumb shows.

agree. no originality on both sides.. they tend to copy each other.. 1st F4, then GMA came up wid some chinese band also.. ABS shows how desperate they are in their ratings kuz its falling.. (i.e.: they pirated lots of comedians originally from GMA)

i like Rhea Santos though.. she is d only edge GMA has!! :o
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Post by: Onion Skin on Sep 15, 2003 at 06:49 PM
I just dip in & out of news channels & never watch for long. But no offense to anyone. ABS-CBN is somewhat bias on their news when involving the Lopezes on issues like the Meralco and etc (well, one should expect this). So personally, I opt for GMA when it comes to news. Although everyone has different preferences.

For the Sitcoms, here are my choices:
Monday  - Bida si Mister Bida si Misis (ABS-CBN)
Tuesday - Kool Ka Lang (GMA)
Wednesday - Klasmeyts (ABS-CBN)
Thursday - Maalaala Mo Kaya (ABS-CBN)
Friday      - Bubble Gang (GMA)
Saturday - Idol Ko Si Kap (GMA)
Sunday   -  RPN 9 pag may boksing.

I hate both Telenovela and Chinovela - walang kwenta.
Noontime Show - MTB or Eat Bulaga depende kung sino ang kasama ko na manood.

Favorites Anchors - Rhea Santos & Vicky Morales (GMA)
                             - Bernadette Sembrano (GMA)
                             

I hate John Lapus ng ABS, over acting talaga.
I dont like Noli De Castro - walang nagawa sa senado.
I dont like Mike Enriquez - irritating nga. Buti na lang nalipat sa gabi and Saksi. Pag news sa gabi, World Tonight ako ng ANC Channel.


Overall, I would still rate GMA 10-9 ahead of ABS-CBN.
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Post by: Onion Skin on Sep 15, 2003 at 06:55 PM
What is even more baffling is, that he received local and international recognition as best news anchor.  Are we wrong on seeing him as an annoying and oa news reader?

I often catch him reading a tragic and sad news with a happy and joyfull expression on both his face and voice.  Paano kaya naging best news anchor in Asia si Mr. Enriquez???

 ???

Dahil sya ang "Imbestigador"!!!
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Post by: viper on Sep 17, 2003 at 04:42 PM
I just dip in & out of news channels & never watch for long. But no offense to anyone. ABS-CBN is somewhat bias on their news when involving the Lopezes on issues like the Meralco and etc (well, one should expect this). So personally, I opt for GMA when it comes to news. Although everyone has different preferences.

And mike enqriquez keeps lambasting meralco/maynilad/bayantel all the time just because they are lopez's and related to abscbn and thats unprofessional
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Post by: X-®an™ on Sep 17, 2003 at 05:01 PM
And mike enqriquez keeps lambasting meralco/maynilad/bayantel all the time just because they are lopez's and related to abscbn and thats unprofessional


Not all the time siguro.  I've watched Mike Enriquez from time to time but couldn't even recall a single instance where he "lambasted" the Lopezes.  O natyempohan ko lang siguro na walang anomalies or issues with the Lopez's business?
 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: torque on Sep 18, 2003 at 12:57 PM
I just dip in & out of news channels & never watch for long. But no offense to anyone. ABS-CBN is somewhat bias on their news when involving the Lopezes on issues like the Meralco and etc (well, one should expect this). So personally, I opt for GMA when it comes to news. Although everyone has different preferences.

For the Sitcoms, here are my choices:
Monday  - Bida si Mister Bida si Misis (ABS-CBN)
Tuesday - Kool Ka Lang (GMA)
Wednesday - Klasmeyts (ABS-CBN)
Thursday - Maalaala Mo Kaya (ABS-CBN)
Friday      - Bubble Gang (GMA)
Saturday - Idol Ko Si Kap (GMA)
Sunday   -  RPN 9 pag may boksing.


Overall, I would still rate GMA 10-9 ahead of ABS-CBN.

Onion Skin,

add natin ang Sharon Cuneta show and ASAP sa list of ABS-CBN shows na pinapanood mo. below was your post on Michael Buble thread. hehehe! ;D

I watched him last weekend on Sharon and ASAP. I like his brand of music, pang dinner songs.

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Post by: acyl_halide on Sep 18, 2003 at 02:07 PM
GMA....kasi kaka-inlab ng ENDLESS LOVE!!!! Ganda ni Jenny!!!! Hanep ang drama....not overly melodramatic...medyo muted and ang galing ng acting!
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Post by: viper on Sep 19, 2003 at 11:10 AM
When he was still an FM radio dj, he used the name  "Baby Mike" .

Aside from being an news anchor, he is concurrently head of GMA's radio Network. I think was also responsible for programming WKC.

Medyo "Thunder" na nga ako kasi I still remember, Mike Enriquez is Baby Michael who i used to listen with Hill Billy Willy on the station DWBL on the AM band. Hindi pa uso noon yung FM (Thunder talaga!  ;D ). Then nung lumipat yung mga music format stations from AM to FM, we heard them in DWKC (formerly DWEI, formerly DZHP), the station of RMN.

Buti pa noon nung DJ siya, oki naman ang dating ng boses (malayo talaga sa mukha!)
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Post by: viper on Sep 19, 2003 at 11:13 AM


i like Rhea Santos though.. she is d only edge GMA has!! :o


"Yummy!"  ;D
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Post by: RMN on Sep 19, 2003 at 11:24 AM
Who do you prefer Mike Enriquez or Rey Langit  ;D
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Post by: halvert on Sep 19, 2003 at 03:19 PM
"Yummy!"  ;D

andyan din si candice jiron sa gma news live . so cute when she smiles.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Sep 19, 2003 at 03:34 PM
Don't forget Susan Enriquez, siya lang pinanonood ko sa GMA, pero Im torn between her and Doris Bigornia of ABS-CBN.

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Post by: viper on Sep 20, 2003 at 11:53 AM
Who do you prefer Mike Enriquez or Rey Langit  ;D

The Skyman of course kasi malamig yung boses niya.
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Post by: viper on Sep 20, 2003 at 11:55 AM
andyan din si candice jiron sa gma news live . so cute when she smiles.

But the problem is she seldom smile (except siguro when on cam).

She was in our office once and she just sat there poker faced while waiting for his bf (I think?)
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Post by: halvert on Sep 20, 2003 at 02:20 PM
o ganon, di nag-smile si candice jiron ??? baka may lq sila ng bf nya. may chance pa ako! ;D sama no?
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Post by: steelydan on Oct 11, 2003 at 11:40 PM
Medyo "Thunder" na nga ako kasi I still remember, Mike Enriquez is Baby Michael who i used to listen with Hill Billy Willy on the station DWBL on the AM band. Hindi pa uso noon yung FM (Thunder talaga!  ;D ). Then nung lumipat yung mga music format stations from AM to FM, we heard them in DWKC (formerly DWEI, formerly DZHP), the station of RMN.

Buti pa noon nung DJ siya, oki naman ang dating ng boses (malayo talaga sa mukha!)

you forgot to mention jun santiago (voice of dwll)and bernin' bernie.. their biggest competitor(s) back then dwkw 1386 (bingo  lacson,bambi fonacier, long tall howard,ricky dizon) and dzbm 774(robert w. morgan<local>, al w. lider, harry nolan <80's>). of course, dwkw transferred to 89.1 --just like dwbl transferred to 93.9 after the edsa revolution.... 94.7 dzhp became dwll.. DWEI(93.1) was known as "studio 93' in the early 80's became RX93. mike enriquez was responsible for the corny joke format of dwkc , which became such a hit that  dwls97.1 pirated him in 1989 or 1990.

those were the good ol days of listening to radio..
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Post by: Excalibur on Oct 12, 2003 at 10:05 AM

Just read the thread guys. Here’s my opinion:

GMA for the news & investigative reporting. They have the Peabody award & more New York TV awards. Plus they still have “The Probe Team”. I don’t consider local award giving bodies objective.

GMA for the comedy shows. Hands down winner to “Bubble Gang” & “Kool Ka Lang”.  Pero refreshing ang “On Air” & “The Misadventures of Maverick & Ariel” ng ABC5.

ABS definitely for the soaps. Pero di ako nanonood. Mas nakaka-aliw pa panoorin ang bangayan ng “Ang Tamang Daan” (Net 25) & “Ang Dating Daan” SBN 21  ;)

Both for Anime.  
ABS had Kenshin, Tenchi, Sakura Wars, Soul Hunters & Gate Keepers (may nakalimutan ba ako na maganda?). Lahat ng mga sikat sa AXN & Cartoon Network Toonami, kinukuha nila. Nakakainis lang nilagay nila sa afternoon slot at tinagalog ang “Evangelion”. Di kasi pambata ito eh.
GMA had Escaflowne, Gundam, Trigun, Bubblegum Crisis, Yuyu Hakusho & Slam Dunk. Plus they had the Mecha Fever in Voltes V, Daimos, Mazinger Z, UFO Grendaizer & Mekanda Robot. They even showed “Ghost in the Shell” dubbed in tagalog. Nakakainins lang tinagalog nila ang Ranma.  I just wish these two networks would feature “Non-Fantasy-Sci-Fi” anime.

Both for the Showbiz News. Two different views will definitely help people judge "the hot issue of the day" more objectively.

Peace.  ;D
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Post by: Excalibur on Oct 12, 2003 at 10:15 AM

My take lang on the Sky Cable-GMA issue:

GMA won the case. I think Sky still is’nt following the court order. Hmmmmmm.  ???

Sky could remove any channel in their line-up because they have the power to do so. But is’nt it wiser to let the subscriber decide what “free channel” they would watch? The subscriber could easily delete any channel from the memory of his or her TV, right?

Peace.  ;D
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Post by: Excalibur on Oct 12, 2003 at 10:35 AM

With regards to turning ABS CBN workers into talents, I think this happened partly because they lost a number of labor cases, specifically in the nature of illegal dismissal. Di nga lang publicized kasi mga maliliit na tao ang na-tanggal.  Di gaya ng pag-alis ni Mel & Jay, by which ABS also lost the case.  

In addition, ABS also lost the case with regards to their illegal recruitment of Luchi Cruz Valdes from GMA. They took Ms. Valdes considering that she still has a live contract with GMA (I think “pirated” is the proper word for this). This is not the first time they pirated a GMA talent.

GMA naman seems to be taking the "hand-me-downs" of ABS gratefully. The only positive thing going for GMA with this action is that, they are not getting sued due to the expiration or non-renewal of the contracts of these "hand-me-downs". (Ang sama ng term na ginamit ko ano?) :P
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Post by: halvert on Oct 12, 2003 at 03:27 PM
meanwhile, according to the pmpc star awards, abs-cbn ang the best this--or is it  last--year. 30 out of 46 awards if you had the patience to sit throught the boring, long-winded awardzzzzzz. but as someone here mentioned, local awrd-giving bodies are indeed suspect, especially since once might perceive the numerous victories a reward to that station for re-joining the awards after years of boycotting the event because they always lost out to gma. i couldn't believe asap could win over sop when its main hosts aren't even singers. and claudine bagging best variety show host...please. willie revillame is best public service host. what's hilarious is that we even have awards for best male and female newsreaders--won by julius babao and korina. yabang pa naman ng speech ni korina. yes , this woman is the paragon of journalism. emulate her lack of objectivity. :P
my personal peeve is in the best comedy actor category. vic sotto won over michael v and ogie, but jon sntos or anyone from ispup wasn't even nominated.
to stay on topic, i used to believe gma was better because they had te best public affairs line up and evening news was just news. now, it seems they're outdoin each other in dumbing us down.
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Post by: viper on Oct 13, 2003 at 04:34 PM
to stay on topic, i used to believe gma was better because they had te best public affairs line up and evening news was just news. now, it seems they're outdoin each other in dumbing us down.

All in pursuit of the mighty ratings that sadly translates to advert pesoses :( :(
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 13, 2003 at 04:48 PM
GMA's News and Public affairs department just lost its credibility when they censored Probe Teams expose.  

The Probe Team was the one who gave GMA's News and Public Affairs credibility, ironically The Probe Team was not even part of GMA News Department it is a block timer.

With an anchor like Mike Enriquez and Arnold Clavio who would say GMA News department is credible?
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Post by: Hi-tech on Oct 13, 2003 at 05:04 PM
GMA's News and Public affairs department just lost its credibility when they censored Probe Teams expose.  

The Probe Team was the one who gave GMA's News and Public Affairs credibility, ironically The Probe Team was not even part of GMA News Department it is a block timer.

With an anchor like Mike Enriquez and Arnold Clavio who would say GMA News department is credible?

I second the motion. Recently, ABS-CBN program "Assignment" exposed Ang Dating Daan wrongdoings to its members thru the confessions of their former members. Just days after,  GMA's Imbestigador also features the same, this time interviewing Ang Dating Daan leader Eli Soriano when he vehemently refused to be interviewed by the Assignment.
Malakas ba si Soriano sa GMA since he's closely related to Kaka (Daniel Razon of Unang Hirit) and Manolo Favis ;D
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Post by: viper on Oct 13, 2003 at 05:06 PM
If the Cojuanco buyin into channel 5 will push thru, Cheche and company will be most welcome there!
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Post by: Excalibur on Oct 14, 2003 at 03:15 PM
GMA's News and Public affairs department just lost its credibility when they censored Probe Teams expose.  

The Probe Team was the one who gave GMA's News and Public Affairs credibility, ironically The Probe Team was not even part of GMA News Department it is a block timer.

With an anchor like Mike Enriquez and Arnold Clavio who would say GMA News department is credible?

I read an article regarding this and Mr. Gozon answered that the Probe Team was using the financial statements circa middle to late 1990s in developing their conclusions. If this is true, it would be really unfair to judge a person or an organization using an un-updated document. Ask any accountant.

Mr. Gozon said  that the censored episode was shown at a much later date daw with additional interviews & updated documents. i don't know when nga lang if it was really shown.  let's ask the probe team website. :P

Anyway, i think both news organizations have their share of biased news anchors. Just read Nestro Torre's column at the Inquirer once in a while.

ABS has Korina, Ted & Noli de Castro. I remember how MGB reported on Los Banos quarrying issue late 1990s. The mayor of Los Banos was so hurt because the interview was edited to suit to their need of sensationalism. (I know the son's mayor & he was present during his father's interview with Noli)

This is the danger of news reporting for all media organizations. The watchers & readers of the news really don't know what parts of their interviews were edited & deleted because these are compromised with advertising time & space.  
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Post by: Excalibur on Oct 14, 2003 at 03:22 PM

GMA Network says it will
keep 'Probe Team' show
Posted: 0:59 AM (Manila Time) | Sept. 30, 2003
By Alcuin Papa and Margie Quimpo-Espino
Inquirer News Service

ABS-CBN interested

THE "Probe Team" television magazine show goes on at GMA Network.

This was the response of the television and radio giant to reports that rival ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. was interested in the award-winning program.

 
GMA Network issued the statement after indicating it wanted to ax the show after 16 years over an episode featuring a lifestyle check on Efraim Genuino, chairperson of government casino operator Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corp. (Pagcor).

GMA Network president Felipe Gozon said the show could be canceled only when the two parties "have a date to do so."

The Probe Team is a co-production of GMA Network and the group of the program's producer, Che Che Lazaro. The contract between GMA Network and Lazaro's group is scheduled to end in January.

"A co-production agreement with two groups is like a partnership," Gozon said. "It is based on mutual trust and confidence. When the standards are different, this will affect the image of the two and it is no longer advisable or desirable to continue."

Lazaro flew out of the country a few hours after GMA Network vice president Marissa Flores met with her at Lazaro's home Friday night.

Flores and GMA Network project unit manager Ricky Escudero asked Lazaro at the meeting when she would air the last episode of the show.

GMA Network corporate communications head Butch Raquel said Monday that nothing had been finalized. "We can't speculate on that (transfer to ABS-CBN) if it's still with us," he said.

Raquel indicated that as of now the situation could go either way. "For all we know," he said, GMA Network's axing the show "might never happen."

Talk was rife that GMA Network would drop "The Probe Team" because of the controversy that surrounded the cancellation of the episode on Genuino on Sept. 16.

The network management held off the airing of the episode until Lazaro's group could come up with more documents to support its conclusion that Genuino owned shares in several corporations that he did not declare in his statements of assets and liabilities for February 2001, December 2001 and December 2002.

The day after the management held off the show, The Probe Team went to the University of the Philippines' College of Mass Communication and aired the controversial episode. Lazaro, whose husband, Delfin, is a cousin of Gozon, cried censorship.

GMA Network aired the show last Tuesday with some changes. "We wanted them to put in more supporting data so their conclusion can stand," Gozon said. "Is that censorship?"

"We have the power to destroy a person's reputation," he said. "We can make the reputation of a person very good or very bad. Before you destroy a reputation, you should have basis. We would rather err in good faith. At least we tried."

"The objective is to have a balanced and responsible delivery of news," Gozon added.

Gozon, a lawyer, said what he wanted was simply for The Probe Team to check on updated documents of the companies linked to Genuino. He noted that many corporations were not efficient in regularly submitting amended articles of incorporation. The data the Lazaro group got were documents dated in the early 1980s.

'Why not?'

Over at ABS-CBN Corp., its two top executives gave differing views on whether to get "The Probe Team" if GMA Network would let go of the award-winning show.

"Why not?" ABS-CBN president and chief operating officer Federico Garcia said at a lunch for business journalists Monday. "They started with us."

 
Garcia said ABS-CBN had asked Lazaro to be its news director.

ABS-CBN chairperson and chief executive officer Eugenio Lopez III sounded more noncommittal, citing his network's practice of not co-producing shows.

"All our news are internal," Lopez said. "We don't co-produce."

"All our slots are full," he added.

When asked if ABS-CBN would hire the Genuino episode's producer, Bernadette Sembrano, if she would quit GMA Network, Lopez said it might not be a good idea. "It is demoralizing to always get talents from the outside," he said. "It does not work."

ABS-CBN in the past pirated several talents of GMA Network, such as Luchi Cruz-Valdes, DJ Santa Ana and Karen Davila.

Gozon said the pulling out of Sembrano from anchoring GMA Network's "Saksi" newscast was due to the attitude she displayed on TV.

When the announcement came that the controversial Genuino episode was going to be aired, the camera panned to Sembrano who was looking very angry and upset. She walked out of the set.

"Sembrano is not with 'The Probe Team,' she is with us [GMA Network]," Gozon said. "She should not cross her professional obligation between the two."

Editor's note: GMA Network is a parent of INQ7.net

erratum ko sa last post: 1980s pa pala ang data na ginamit, di 1990s. sorry.

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 14, 2003 at 03:31 PM
I read an article regarding this and Mr. Gozon answered that the Probe Team was using the financial statements circa middle to late 1990s in developing their conclusions. If this is true, it would be really unfair to judge a person or an organization using an un-updated document. Ask any accountant.

Mr. Gozon said  that the censored episode was shown at a much later date daw with additional interviews & updated documents. i don't know when nga lang if it was really shown.  let's ask the probe team website. :P

Anyway, i think both news organizations have their share of biased news anchors. Just read Nestro Torre's column at the Inquirer once in a while.

ABS has Korina, Ted & Noli de Castro. I remember how MGB reported on Los Banos quarrying issue late 1990s. The mayor of Los Banos was so hurt because the interview was edited to suit to their need of sensationalism. (I know the son's mayor & he was present during his father's interview with Noli)

This is the danger of news reporting for all media organizations. The watchers & readers of the news really don't know what parts of their interviews were edited & deleted because these are compromised with advertising time & space.  


    Nabasa ko rin yung explanation ni Mr. Gozum and I don't buy that, it's pure damage control on their part.  Gagawin pa nilang incompetent at tanga si Cheche Lazaro and the Probe Productions.

    The funny thing is, why make that issue different among the hundreds of issue they already featured?  Why did GMA's management applied a different set of standard regarding that specific subject when they (GMA's News department and their Bias anchors like Mr. Enriquez) practice sensational and unbalance reportage all the time specially when it involves their competition and the Lopezes?  Was it not GMA's News department who publicized Adore Mawanay it is Arnold Calvio who cuddled this faker and gave him hours of air time in his radio show bakit hindi siya sinabihan when Adore was demolishing the reputation of Ping, Loren and Noli?  Is it because these 3 are potential political rival unlike the official featured in the Probe Team na na sa side ni GMA?  Where is that standard then?

   Sana naman wag tangahin ng GMA tayo if I would to choose who is right in this issue I would believe Cheche Lazaro not GMA who have always been bias on it's reporting.

    Of course this is just my humble opinion.  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 14, 2003 at 03:39 PM


    Pahabol lang, they did allow that episode to be shown but before they showed it Arnold Clavio read a disclaimer in effect saying that the said feature was not credible and unsubstantiated.  This cause his co anchor in Saksi to walk-out on air.  Bernadette Sebrano walk-out because she is a part of the Probe Team and she was the one who made that feature report.

    Eh di para nga namang sinampal mo on-air yung reporter.  It's no different in saying that Bernadette your a bias and unethical jornalist in front of national TV.

 ;D

    The same subject was aired on ABS-CBN and it really will make you think about the officials honesty.  Besides they are goverment officials di ba dapat they are transparent anough and ready for this kind of scrutiny that is the price of public service kaya di ko bibilihin palusot ng GMA.
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Post by: patupup on Oct 14, 2003 at 04:46 PM


    Pahabol lang, they did allow that episode to be shown but before they showed it Arnold Clavio read a disclaimer in effect saying that the said feature was not credible and unsubstantiated.  This cause his co anchor in Saksi to walk-out on air.  Bernadette Sebrano walk-out because she is a part of the Probe Team and she was the one who made that feature report.

    Eh di para nga namang sinampal mo on-air yung reporter.  It's no different in saying that Bernadette your a bias and unethical jornalist in front of national TV.

 ;D

    The same subject was aired on ABS-CBN and it really will make you think about the officials honesty.  Besides they are goverment officials di ba dapat they are transparent anough and ready for this kind of scrutiny that is the price of public service kaya di ko bibilihin palusot ng GMA.
If I were Bernadette Sembrano, baka di lang ganun ang naging reaction ko... talagang sampal sa mukha para sa isang reporter/journalist ung ginawang 'palusot' ng GMA....

In my own opinion, kung di pa siguro pinalabas ito sa UP, malamang di na ito naipalabas sa Probe Team. Someone in the high ups, like Malacanang, probably have something to do with the 'censorship' of this Genuino topic.  I watched the whole show, and it really revealed a lot about the link between Genuino and the First Gentleman. And of course the real kurakot in Mr. Genuino...

So for the GMA's News and Public affairs department, I really think they lost their credibility on this one...

Of course this is also my own humble opinion  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Oct 14, 2003 at 05:01 PM

thanks for the info mr. big boy. di ko kasi napanood ang saksi episode na iyon eh. sad to hear it happened.

anyway, media organizations have the duty to present the truth thru the airing of all sides of an issue. anything less than that is the manipulation of the truth.

kung di nila makuha ang 1 side, they should try to use all their resources to get it because they are the vanguards of truth. this separates the men from the boys in news gathering. kung hindi talaga nila ma-gather, inform the viewers in a subjective way.

what i observed with our news & talk shows nowadays is that some of them air just one side of the story and then announce on national television that their show will be open as a venue for the defense of the other side. hindi na by accident ito kundi style na nila.

(in a way) this is dangerous because the chronological presentation of views can affect the perception of the people.

the timespan from the announcement of one side to the non-response of the other side equals damages. and they (abs & gma) know that damage can be done in just a span of seconds in air time.

instead of avoiding this, they are doing this.
for ratings.

we as viewers should stand guard against this subjective news reporting, kahit kung saang channel pa galing ang item o kung sino man ang nag-rereport.

let us be anti-subjective news reporting, period. not
anti-abs cbn (because of korina et. al.)
nor anti-gma (because of arnold et. al.).

peace.  ;D


 
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Oct 14, 2003 at 09:16 PM
Excalibur raised good points.

There really should be a paradigm shift in how we view news and public affairs shows. The moment you start thinking of these shows in terms of ratings and not as public service, you already compromise its integrity. That goes for both ABS-CBN, GMA and the rest of the networks. .

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 14, 2003 at 10:16 PM
     That's idealistic wishful thinking but we are living in the real world Indie Boi.   Media especially broadcast has its responsibility that's true, after all having given the privilege of a franchise to operate they should not betray that trust.

     But having said that the truth is media are run by private companies these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost in their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service. Companies should first think of being profitable, all those slogan about public service are merely marketing tools intended for the ultimate end of earning our money.  I myself would not invest in a company that says otherwise.

     That’s not a bad thing.  In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers.  Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product.  If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.

     All I’m saying is rating/profit is the ultimate goal, public service automatically fallows because it is their business afterall.  But public service is subjective, kung ang audience gusto yung kind or brand of service these networks give them then who are we the minority to dictate what the greater number should watch.  So tama in effect yung sabihin that these networks are providing the services the majority wants.  To a certain extent it is the audience that makes the program the networks give.  The audience has more power to make news credible more powerful than the owners of these networks themselves.

     Kaya if you hate media politics like what GMA did to Probe then don’t watch GMA news or write to forums like this it might reach them naman siguro.  And if market forces is strong enough I’m sure they will listen because they have no choice.

  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Grandpoobah on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:49 AM
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my personal peeve is in the best comedy actor category. vic sotto won over michael v and ogie, but jon sntos or anyone from ispup wasn't even nominated.
to stay on topic, i used to believe gma was better because they had te best public affairs line up and evening news was just news. now, it seems they're outdoin each other in dumbing us down.

Ang nakakatawa dito is the Lucky Me and that vitamin OBB congratulating EDU as the winner of the best comedian category.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Dr. Dre on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:59 AM
Who's the best?  Neither one of them. :)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Oct 15, 2003 at 09:54 AM
  That's idealistic wishful thinking but we are living in the real world Indie Boi.   Media especially broadcast has its responsibility that's true, after all having given the privilege of a franchise to operate they should not betray that trust.

   But having said that the truth is media are run by private companies these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service.  Companies should first think of being profitable, all those slogan about public service are merely marketing tools intended for the ultimate end of earning our money.  I myself would not invest in a company that says otherwise.

  ;D

you have a point there big boy. my question now is, are the owners & investors ONLY interested in profits or dividends? if this is the case, we all know where the ethics of that business lie when they need to decide what will be sacrificed (truth or profit?).  :'( just imagine paano kung ganito ang ethics ng mga drug companies.

  That’s not a bad thing.  In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers.  Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product.  If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.

   All I’m saying is rating/profit is the ultimate goal public service automatically fallows because it is their business afterall.  But public service is subjective kung ang audience gusto yung kind or brand of service these networks give them then who are we the minority to dictate what the greater audience should watch.  So tama in effect yung sabihin that these networks are providing the services the majority wants.  To a certain extent it is the audience that makes the program the networks give.  The audience has more power to make news credible more powerful than the owners of these networks themselves.
  ;D

you also have a good point there using the argument of the law of supply & demand.

one point lang, kung gusto ng audience eh x-rated in free tv, susundin nila?  ???

we also have to remember that mass media is about perception. perception = marketing. in marketing, you don't just find the demand, you CREATE it.  that's why mass media always create a demand thru good perception. and they always find themselves (the media) at the crossroads of telling the truth or creating a demand thru good perception for the goal of profit.

just an example, the shift in fashion is dictated by creating a demand. fashion affects lifestyle. lifestyle affects the society. but who is helps the fashion industry? the media of course. media can decide what is the next big thing. it is quite simple to deduce the extent of the power of media companies in affecting society as a whole. kung may magandang idea or product but they (media) refuse to expose it, saan pupulutin ang idea na ito?

  Kaya if you hate media politics like what GMA did to Probe then don’t watch GMA news or write to forums like this it might reach them naman siguro.  And if market forces is strong enough I’m sure they will listen because they have no choice.
  ;D

that's why i am urging the pinoydvd people to become anti-subjective news reporting, not just anti-gma. we may be the (intelligent, nax!) minority, but we still have our voices.  ;D

just a question mr. big boy, if abs cbn would find themselves in the same situation like in saksi and did exactly what gma did to probe, would you voice out your opinion here regarding your disgust against abs?  ;)

peace.  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:05 PM
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That's idealistic wishful thinking but we are living in the real world Indie Boi.  Media especially broadcast has its responsibility that's true, after all having given the privilege of a franchise to operate they should not betray that trust.

  But having said that the truth is media are run by private companies these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service.  Companies should first think of being profitable, all those slogan about public service are merely marketing tools intended for the ultimate end of earning our money.  I myself would not invest in a company that says otherwise.

 I didn’t know that there is no room for idealism in the real world. If that’s the case, then maybe everyone should just take all these corruption scandals with a jaded eye and not just care anymore. It is THE REAL WORLD after all.

Having said that, let me just point out that we’re talking about a 30-minute show here. Yes, networks are run by private companies that exist to earn. I agree with that, but to extend it to a 30-minute show? Are we now supposed to just accept the fact that even public service should be profit-driven?

Bantay Bata is an offshoot public service program of ABS-CBN – now I’m being told that even this benign organization has more insidious objectives? That they exist to make a profit out of the misery of abused children?

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That’s not a bad thing.  In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers.  Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product.  If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.


This is precisely the kind of reasons that promote the dumbing down of mass media and its audience. By arbitrarily saying that the masses will only accept “bakya” programs, you never really promote or encourage growth or maturity in how they view what they want. You seem to have mixed up the profit-oriented goals of a company to the public service responsibilities that a media network has been given because of their position.

The media is considered the fourth estate, the watchdog of society – if you’re saying that the Philippine media is and should be purely driven by just profits alone, then God help us all.

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:08 PM
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Kaya if you hate media politics like what GMA did to Probe then don’t watch GMA news or write to forums like this it might reach them naman siguro.  And if market forces is strong enough I’m sure they will listen because they have no choice.

You kinda lost me here. Can you rephrase your sentences?  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: guderian on Oct 15, 2003 at 12:23 PM
    these companies are not born to give charities they primarily exist to earn, so first and foremost to their agenda is to be profitable and not to give service.  


Maybe it's the other way around.  Profit is actually what is left over from the cost of the SERVICE paid for by your customer.  You must first SERVE your customer in order to receive compensation for your SERVICE, after which, what you spent is deducted from that compensation in order to arrive at a PROFIT.  Ok, fine, profit is necessary to keep running, but there are many businesses and organizations out there whose primary goal is to give SERVICE, believing that if you SERVE your customers well, the profits will automatically follow.

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In media you sell service to TV audience and it makes good business sense to mold these services to the liking of your customers the viewers.  Now if viewers demands corny low quality and lousy programs then they deserve that kind of product.  If they demand good credible news then TV networks don’t have a choice but to give it yan ang market forces.

I think we should think about who the true clients of a network are?  Do we pay ABS-CBN or GMA to bring us content?  We do not.  Who pays the networks?  It is advertisers who pay the networks.  We have to factor that in, because to me, the advertisers are THE primary client of the networks.  The job of the network is to DELIVER the audience to the advertisers, thus the whole ratings thing.  If the network does not deliver the audience, the advertiser will not patronize the network, and the network will not be profitable.   The audience is NOT the primary client of any network that needs to be profitable to survive.

Also, maybe we should agree on a definition of the term "public service."  Everyone has their own understanding of the term.  What then is public service (in the context of networks, their shows and their scope of operations)?
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 16, 2003 at 03:57 PM
you have a point there big boy. my question now is, are the owners & investors ONLY interested in profits or dividends? if this is the case, we all know where the ethics of that business lie when they need to decide what will be sacrificed (truth or profit?).  :'( just imagine paano kung ganito ang ethics ng mga drug companies.you also have a good point there using the argument of the law of supply & demand.

     When you invest you're money in business what is your purpose?  To serve?  To promote world peace?  To be charitable?  To mold a better society?  If that is your main concern you're better off giving your money to the church or charitable institutions or better yet give them directly to the goverment.  Or run for public office.

      All I'm saying is businesses are there to make money that is their ultimate goal, I never said that in doing so wala ng fringe benefits na makukuha ang consumers or ang goverment.  When you're engage in service oriented business like media or utilities of course just like any other company it is only natural to give what your market demands.  Ultimately businesses who gives service have no other choice but to give what their consumers demands or they will switch to the competition.

    So are investors mainly interested in profits or dividends, generally yes.  Are they interested in ethics and public service?  Of course yes because it is part of their business.  Did they spend millions of money to give service for service sake?  I think we're not that naive to think that they did.  And there is nothing wrong with that ang masama eh pamigay mo yung pera ng investors mo for your personal cause to become a saint.


one point lang, kung gusto ng audience eh x-rated in free tv, susundin nila?  ???

     Huh???  Naguguluhan ako sa tanong na yan.  Have I ever mention in any of my statements to allow illegal or criminal acts?  If I did please kindly point it out.

     Diba sinabi ko nga businesses are after profit, now tell me sinong tangang investor ang gagawa niyan knowing to well na tatamaan ang negosyo nila?  


we also have to remember that mass media is about perception. perception = marketing. in marketing, you don't just find the demand, you CREATE it.  that's why mass media always create a demand thru good perception. and they always find themselves (the media) at the crossroads of telling the truth or creating a demand thru good perception for the goal of profit.

just an example, the shift in fashion is dictated by creating a demand. fashion affects lifestyle. lifestyle affects the society. but who is helps the fashion industry? the media of course. media can decide what is the next big thing. it is quite simple to deduce the extent of the power of media companies in affecting society as a whole. kung may magandang idea or product but they (media) refuse to expose it, saan pupulutin ang idea na ito?that's why i am urging the pinoydvd people to become anti-subjective news reporting, not just anti-gma. we may be the (intelligent, nax!) minority, but we still have our voices.  ;D


     Well easier said than done.   I am in advertising I think kahit paano alam ko na market forces creates demand and not the other way around.  When you release a product you do research you spend millions just to validate your product.  Kung ang producto mapait sa panlasa ng consumers kahit anong clasend promotion gawin mo wlang bibili nun.  Example -  where are these shows now?  Cafe Bravo, Tatak Pinoy, Little Night of Music, Usapang Business etc.  Baka nga pati yung mga nag-rereklamo sa bulok at stupid shows on TV did not support programs like those.

just a question mr. big boy, if abs cbn would find themselves in the same situation like in saksi and did exactly what gma did to probe, would you voice out your opinion here regarding your disgust against abs?  ;)

peace.  ;D

     YES, not only ABS-CBN but also PTV-4,  ABC-5, RPN-9, ZOE-11, IBC-13 etc.

     But I have never seen or ever recalled having seen such a blatant display of News Censorship by any other network.  Imagine yung owner president mismo ng Network daw ang nag-patigil to protect not an institution but a single individual.  And this report by Probe merits the show cancellation dahil sa isang tao?  Kung may naalala kang similar case please feel free to mention it here.

     Im not critical of what GMA did because I admire ABS-CBN but mainly because it is wrong.  I have a friend working for Probe Production  and believe me they are deep in trouble because of this one individual they exposed.

 ;D
 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 16, 2003 at 04:28 PM
I didn’t know that there is no room for idealism in the real world. If that’s the case, then maybe everyone should just take all these corruption scandals with a jaded eye and not just care anymore. It is THE REAL WORLD after all.

     I never said that there is no room for idealism infact you yourself prove that there is.  All I said was that it is just that idealism.  Wala naman akong sinabi wag-criticized scandals ah.  I was just reacting to your statement na "The moment you start thinking of these shows in terms of ratings and not as public service, you already compromise its integrity "

     My only point is profit is what drives service oriented businesses to give good service, "good" being subjective to what the majority thinks.   It does not fallow if a company thinks profit first masama na magiging produkto on the contrary it is what drives them to dish out better products.  No company gives service for service sake because if they do they are charitable institutions and not a company.  


Having said that, let me just point out that we’re talking about a 30-minute show here. Yes, networks are run by private companies that exist to earn. I agree with that, but to extend it to a 30-minute show? Are we now supposed to just accept the fact that even public service should be profit-driven?

Bantay Bata is an offshoot public service program of ABS-CBN – now I’m being told that even this benign organization has more insidious objectives? That they exist to make a profit out of the misery of abused children? This is precisely the kind of reasons that promote the dumbing down of mass media and its audience. By arbitrarily saying that the masses will only accept “bakya” programs, you never really promote or encourage growth or maturity in how they view what they want. You seem to have mixed up the profit-oriented goals of a company to the public service responsibilities that a media network has been given because of their position.

The media is considered the fourth estate, the watchdog of society – if you’re saying that the Philippine media is and should be purely driven by just profits alone, then God help us all.

     Bantay Bata is there to create goodwill for the company just like other companies sponsoring different causes like the plight of women, the environment, OFW's and others.  These are not for charity but for marketing purposes, but it does not mean masama na objective nila, nakakatulong rin naman yun.  

     Promoting or encouraging growth or maturity of viewers are not the responsibility of private companies.   Kahit ipalabas mo sa TV 24 hours a day biography of great philosophers and discovery channels documentaries it will not make the viewers mature or change their preference.  Ipapatay lang nila TV or they will just go back to comics.  The present state of taste and preference is sociological and cultural.  

     Besides we complain and criticize the media lagi pero when they do dish out quality and worthwhile films or TV shows walang sumusuporta.  

 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Oct 16, 2003 at 04:38 PM
Maybe it's the other way around.  Profit is actually what is left over from the cost of the SERVICE paid for by your customer.  You must first SERVE your customer in order to receive compensation for your SERVICE, after which, what you spent is deducted from that compensation in order to arrive at a PROFIT.  Ok, fine, profit is necessary to keep running, but there are many businesses and organizations out there whose primary goal is to give SERVICE, believing that if you SERVE your customers well, the profits will automatically follow.

     You did not get my point eh.  Let me ask you why are these service oriented compnaies exist in the first place?  Why did PLDT, GLOBE, BAYANTEL invested and loaned billions of dollars?  Do you think they risked loosing billions of dollars just to serve you?  Siyempre profit ang bottom line.  And because of stiff competition service oriented companies makes sure to give good service not because they want to serve you for service sake but because they want to earn your trust because you have that money they wanted.

I think we should think about who the true clients of a network are?  Do we pay ABS-CBN or GMA to bring us content?  We do not.  Who pays the networks?  It is advertisers who pay the networks.  We have to factor that in, because to me, the advertisers are THE primary client of the networks.  The job of the network is to DELIVER the audience to the advertisers, thus the whole ratings thing.  If the network does not deliver the audience, the advertiser will not patronize the network, and the network will not be profitable.   The audience is NOT the primary client of any network that needs to be profitable to survive.

    What's the point?   We the audience are the ones who spend that money because the money which the advertisers/companies pay these networks comes from us the viewers eh di ganun rin yun. ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Oct 16, 2003 at 04:53 PM
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No company gives service for service sake because if they do they are charitable institutions and not a company.  

Yup, you're right. No one's saying that you forego profits for service. But do you have to sacrifice what little public service component your company has over ratings and profit? We're talking about a 30-minute show here and not the whole programming of the networks.

The late Eugenio Lopez, Sr. said it best:

"Good Service is Good Business"

That maxim is practically plastered all over the ABS-CBN compound.  Someone should try to internalize it for a change. ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Oct 17, 2003 at 03:04 AM

    When you invest you're money in business what is your purpose?  To serve?  To promote world peace?  To be charitable?  To mold a better society?  If that is your main concern you're better off giving your money to the church or charitable institutions or better yet give them directly to the goverment.  Or run for public office.

Nice point Mr. Big boy. I do believe you know why things sold by businesses are called GOODS. Because the businesses who made it, inherently believes that their product provides a BENEFIT for the consumers. And by doing this, they are MOLDING A BETTER SOCIETY.

Businesses exist not just for CONSUMERS but for the WORKERS as well. Kung ibibigay mo lahat sa church or charitable institutions, what happens to the economy? This is the second SERVICE of businesses, providing people employment with a fair financial compensation and a humane working environment. (Guess how many labor cases ABS CBN already lost?)

     All I'm saying is businesses are there to make money that is their ultimate goal, I never said that in doing so wala ng fringe benefits na makukuha ang consumers or ang goverment.  When you're engage in service oriented business like media or utilities of course just like any other company it is only natural to give what your market demands.

Ikaw na rin ang nagsabi na ibigay ang demand ng market. It is quite possible that what the market may DEMAND can be DAMAGING (or illegal) to the consumer & society as a whole. Take the case of cigarettes. Marketers keep on promoting this product as something cool. But we all know the damage it can inflict.

The same is true with a media organization that creates half-truths, sensationalism & tsismis thru subjective news reporting. It damages the viewers. And it damages society. Is this what you call SERVICE?

Ultimately businesses who gives service have no other choice but to give what their consumers demands or they will switch to the competition.

Yup. I agree. But the key term here is SERVICE.

   So are investors mainly interested in profits or dividends, generally yes.  Are they interested in ethics and public service?  Of course yes because it is part of their business.  Did they spend millions of money to give service for service sake?  I think we're not that naive to think that they did.  And there is nothing wrong with that ang masama eh pamigay mo yung pera ng investors mo for your personal cause to become a saint.

Another nice point Mr. Big Boy. Tama ka. What I’d just like to see is some sort of a BALANCE between profit and social responsibility. Wag naman higit na mas importante ang profit.

I believe there is a shift in the vision-mission statements of the world’s biggest companies today. Though increasing the value for the stockholders is one of the main goals of these businesses, it is not their FIRST GOAL. Guess what is their #1 goal? SERVICE.

    Huh???  Naguguluhan ako sa tanong na yan.  Have I ever mention in any of my statements to allow illegal or criminal acts?  If I did please kindly point it out.

You did not. The argument is about MARKET DEMAND. You did’nt say whether the demand is LEGAL or ILLEGAL. A debate does not limit itself unless it is specified.  ;)

We all know that there is a demand for illegal products and services. And we all know businesses exist to supply this demand. My point is, kung illegal ba ang demand, dapat ba bigyan ng supply?  Of course, hindi.

Now, let me re-phrase the question: kung UNETHICAL ba ang DEMAND for a certain service, dapat ba bigyan ng SUPPLY?

    Diba sinabi ko nga businesses are after profit, now tell me sinong tangang investor ang gagawa niyan knowing to well na tatamaan ang negosyo nila?       Well easier said than done.  

Uninformed investors po. They are those who did not get the information they need to know. Guess who can control this information. An unethical media organization, of course.

I am in advertising I think kahit paano alam ko na market forces creates demand and not the other way around.  

Alam mo Mr. Big Boy, dream job ko ang sa advertising.  ;D

You are correct to say that demand results in supply. I believe you.

But you also have to admit that demand CAN be CREATED thru MARKETING.

Kahit papaano, natutunan ko ito sa Marketing Course ko in my MBA. My teacher was the Vice President for Marketing ng UNILAB. And he has authored a few local books in marketing.

Just an example na binigay niya: Bakit may bumibili pa ng Biogesic when in fact meron naman generic na Paracetamol na mas mura? And they are both made by UNILAB using the same ingredients.  :o

When you release a product you do research you spend millions just to validate your product.  Kung ang producto mapait sa panlasa ng consumers kahit anong clasend promotion gawin mo wlang bibili nun.  

Correct Mr. Big Boy. I agree. Para sa kaso ng pangit na produkto.

Eh paano kung acceptable naman ang quality ng produkto pero hindi naman outstanding? Dyan papasok ang Marketing to create the demand for that product. Di ba?


Example -  where are these shows now?  Cafe Bravo, Tatak Pinoy, Little Night of Music, Usapang Business etc.  Baka nga pati yung mga nag-rereklamo sa bulok at stupid shows on TV did not support programs like those.

Good point. I agree.  Pero nanood ako nyan noon. 8)


   YES, not only ABS-CBN but also PTV-4,  ABC-5, RP4N-9, ZOE-11, IBC-13 etc.


Nice to hear this from you.  :D


     But I have never seen or ever recalled having seen such a blatant display of News Censorship by any other network.  Imagine yung owner president mismo ng Network daw ang nag-patigil to protect not an institution but a single individual.  And this report by Probe merits the show cancellation dahil sa isang tao?  Kung may naalala kang similar case please feel free to mention it here.

     Im not critical of what GMA did because I admire ABS-CBN but mainly because it is wrong.  I have a friend working for Probe Production  and believe me they are deep in trouble because of this one individual they exposed.

 ;D

 ;D


I know they are in trouble by the way they answered my email.

Peace  ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: guderian on Oct 17, 2003 at 11:47 AM
    You did not get my point eh.  Let me ask you why are these service oriented compnaies exist in the first place?  Why did PLDT, GLOBE, BAYANTEL invested and loaned billions of dollars?  Do you think they risked loosing billions of dollars just to serve you?  Siyempre profit ang bottom line.  And because of stiff competition service oriented companies makes sure to give good service not because they want to serve you for service sake but because they want to earn your trust because you have that money they wanted.

Yep!  I agree that for many companies, profit is the bottom line.  However, I don't believe that you can separate the profit motive from service - the two are inextricably linked.  You cannot simply separate profit from service and say that one is more important than the other.  Each of the quality of the other.

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Another nice point Mr. Big Boy. Tama ka. What I’d just like to see is some sort of a BALANCE between profit and social responsibility. Wag naman higit na mas importante ang profit.

I agree with Excalibur.  Kasi kung profits lang ang primary objective, what's to stop any media company from extracting as much of it from whomever?  The problem is that you will be hard pressed find a vision statement or a mission statement that clearly states that profit is the primary objective.  It almost always centers around service of some kind - whether that be to the consumers or to employees.  If a company has the profit motive for its primary goal, then it does not matter what kind of business it's in - it doesn't matter what they sell or how they sell it - they are merely limited by the law and their ability to find loopholes in the same.


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What's the point?  We the audience are the ones who give's that money because the money which the advertisers/companies pay these networks comes from us the viewers eh di ganun rin yun.

Hmmm... I wish it were that simple, Mr. Big Boy.  If it were so ,then just extend the relationship back a bit further to say that the money paid to people come from the salaries paid by the networks and the advertisers...

The truth of the matter is, there are many mediating factors in the flow of money, and to say that there is perfect transitivity (to borrow the term from math) would be quite simplistic.  Also, if there is a product that people don't want to buy (even if you advertise the hell out of it), then the chain you described is broken. ;)

I think the point about the primary client of the network is important because it will help us understand why networks act the way they do, and how they deliver the audience to their primary client - the advertisers.  And in case you didn't notice, I am actually HELPING you illustrate your point about ratings and profits being a significant factor the way news and other shows are presented.  I agree with you then to an extent - this is the reality now.  However, Indi-Boi makes a very good point (and ALSO illustrates REALITY) when he says:

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The moment you start thinking of these shows in terms of ratings and not as public service, you already compromise its integrity. That goes for both ABS-CBN, GMA and the rest of the networks. .

But wasn't it also a reality in this century that women were not allowed to vote.  Wasn't it also a reality in this century that Aparthied was actually PUBLIC POLICY in Africa?  Yes, these were all realities, and somebody somewhere thought they were doing the staus quo a service by keeping these beliefs and policies in place.  But now women can vote, and Aparthied has been dismantled in Africa.  Slavery was once as accepted as reality in the very same way as you accept the reality of the profit over service motive.  Yes, there is reality, but there is also that little thing we consider called ethics that always complicates our present reality. :)

And the ethics of the matter will always be intertwined with the profit motive and the quality of sevice.  

But if the issue here has been service, then may I ask the forum: How do YOU define service?  I feel we all have slightly different definitions of the term. ???

I'll be back monday. Have a good weekend everybody!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re:Che Che Lazaro's statement and letter
Post by: RMN on Nov 18, 2003 at 07:19 PM
I'm posting here, from the probe team  (http://www.probeteam.com) website, the statement of Ms. Che-Che Lazaro as well as her letter to Atty. Felipe Gozun, Chair and Prexy of GMA.


FROM CHE CHE LAZARO

I have avoided further statements to media on the censorship of The ProbeTeam; episode on the undeclared assets of PAGCOR Chairman Efraim Genuino.

It was my hope that the furor created by this one incident in 15 years of partnership would be allowed to die down and that the scheduled parting of ways would be cordial.

Unfortunately, the November 3 press statement of GMA Channel 7 makes its case at the expense of the reputation of The Probe Team.  GMA Channel 7 has therefore left me with no choice but to put on record the events that transpired so that our advertisers and the public may know.

October 23, I sent a letter to Atty. Gozon.

In that letter, which follows below, my intention was to let Atty. Gozon know about a series of developments, visible from our side of the fence, which formed the basis for our conclusion that it was censorship.

Among those developments were three calls made by Atty. Junjun Tupas, a member of the law firm of Atty. Gozon, to the Probe staff lobbying on behalf of PAGCOR Chairman Genuino.

Still, I wanted to let Atty. Gozon know that those developments did not make me lose my respect for him as a person and as the head of GMA 7. None of our actions was meant to be a personal affront to him at any time.

I therefore ended my October 23 letter in a conciliatory tone. But Atty. Gozon's response since then, including his November 3 letter, have given me cause to regret my silence.

Atty. Gozon has been harping- in his statements to the press, in the GMA-7 newsletter- on The Probe Team's unprofessionalism.

We maintain that we had the documents he wanted from the very start, and that the final version aired on September 23 did not need to turn to additional documents.

The journalistic standards of The Probe Team have never been compromised nor have they ever been second, then or now, to GMA's own.

Atty. Gozon says he is terminating the airing of The Probe Team on November 25 even though our contract runs to the end of January 2004. Again unilaterally, he has also decided that GMA 7 will continue to air The Probe Team in its international channel.

We say that we are ending the long run of The Probe Team on GMA-7 with the knowledge that we served the public good without sacrificing our integrity for 16 years.



October 23, 2003

Atty. Felipe L. Gozon
Chairman, President & CEO
GMA Network Inc.,
GMA Network Center
EDSA Corner Timog Avenue
Diliman, Quezon City 1103

Dear Atty. Gozon:

This is further to my letter dated October 9th, 2003 addressing your suggestion that we mutually end the partnership with TPT on November 25, 2003.

I had hoped that upon my return from a two week visit with my daughter I would be able to avoid having to delve once more on the issues surrounding the non-airing, or in our view censorship, of the TPT episode on PAGCOR Chairman Genuino. Unfortunately, PAGCOR and even GMA Network Inc. have continued to portray The Probe Team as unprofessional. Never in my many years of being involved in television have I ever been accused of acting unprofessional. Never in the history of The Probe Team have we been accused of airing a story for the purpose of undermining the character of a personality. It would have been a very simple matter for Chairman Genuino or one of his many assistants to have agreed to an interview where he could have aired his side. Yet even up to today, there has been no categorical denial from Chairman Genuino himself as to the ownership of those companies our story identified as his, per SEC records.

While the story on Chairman Genuino was being prepared, there were numerous incidents where his office and his person were trying to stop the story from being aired. Chairman Genuino's office even tried to reach my husband. They were using all available connections. At the same time, officers of GMA Network Inc. showed extraordinary interest in the story, something we have not experienced as related to a government personality in all our history of working with GMA Network Inc. It was not difficult to imagine that in the efforts of Chairman Genuino to kill the story, he and his assistants would also be calling on the executives of the station to air his objection to the story. GMA marketing through Mr. Afin Bautista lobbied on behalf of Mr. Genuino. Mr. Bautista also told me that a Mr. Dodie King wanted to talk to me about the PAGCOR story. There was even a call from a lawyer who identified himself as Junjun Tupas. He said he was from your Law office and was calling as a friend of PAGCOR. The combination of the multi-pronged pressure led us to believe that the action of GMA Network Inc. not to air the episode was its way of giving in to the pressure of Mr. Genuino.

It appears that Chairman Genuino had better access to GMA Network Inc. decisions on this matter than we had. In the early evening of the day when the episode was originally supposed to air, we were told by people inside PAGCOR that Dodie King had already announced to his staff not to tape record the airing of The Probe Team that night as the episode on his boss would not be aired. That was many hours before the staff of The Probe Team was informed of the decision of the station to air a rerun. In fact, our staff was working double time during those last few hours hoping we could provide the answers to the questions being raised by GMA 7. We even had our own producers shooting footage as late as ten p.m.

Similarly, Chairman Genuino had announced to his staff that TPT would be cancelled and Bernadette Sembrano removed from the news many hours before GMA 7, through Ms. Marissa Flores and Ms. Rikki Escudero, had told me of that decision at my residence.

What further supports our view that it was not the documentation of the story that caused the station to replace it with a rerun is the subsequent airing of the episode the next week. The original episode was aired in UP through the invitation and initiative of the UP faculty and students of the College of Mass Communications. We had nothing to do with this invitation. In fact it was a matter we had to debate internally because we knew that GMA 7 would find the airing of that episode as an act of defiance. We eventually agreed to air it because we felt we had to have on record what the original episode contained. If you have your staff compare the documentation of that original episode with the version allowed to air the following week, the documentation remains the same. There was no new document added, a point we made repeatedly during our back and forth discussions with our counterparts in News and PA. The episode aired is substantively the same.

We have also been scored for accusing GMA immediately in public. For the record, the first public statement on the issue after the September 16 non-airing was made on the September 17 Frontpage newscast. We did not solicit coverage from the press. They called us as well as GMA for comment when the non-airing of the episode had become too obvious to the public. That story first appeared on September 18 in the PDI.

When Probe Productions Inc. and GMA 7 were discussing the transfer of the marketing from PPI to GMA 7 in exchange for a fixed monthly fee, one of our main concerns which we mentioned to Mr. Meckoy Quiogue was journalistic independence. We asked Meckoy whether the start of GMA 7 having a financial commitment to PPI will mean that GMA 7 will exercise control over the stories going to be aired by The Probe Team. Meckoy assured us that GMA 7 will only SUGGEST and he added that the station respects our editorial prerogative, a point which I appreciated.

Following that commitment, we worked well with the News and Public Affairs staff on all our stories. One particular instance I recall is a story we did on the F4 craze. When informed that the station was concerned about the effect our story would have on the fierce competition with a rival station, we willingly acceded to their suggestions understanding their concern. We appreciated GMA's giving us heads up on the matter.

In our contract with GMA 7, we agreed to keep GMA 7 free and harmless, including attorney's fees of the station, in case any of our stories should provoke a lawsuit. My advisers told me at that time that this was a very serious undertaking especially for a small company such as ours. They told me that we would have to reckon not only with legitimate suits but also with nuisance suits. I was told that the phraseology of the hold harmless clause did not even require that we lose the suit, our company would be immediately liable for legal expenses of GMA 7 just to prepare and pursue its defense. Nevertheless, I swallowed hard and accepted this provision because I wanted to remove as many reasons as possible for GMA 7 to have to intrude in our journalistic independence.

I thought I would raise these two historical points to highlight that our reaction to the decision of GMA 7 not to air the episode is consistent with who we are and what we have stood for all these years.

With reference to your proposal to preterminate the contract to November 25, 2003, allow me to make a counter proposal. I propose that GMA 7 waive all its international airing rights to any TPT episodes. If GMA does not want to be associated with The Probe Team anymore, for consistency, it would follow that GMA also no longer wants to use its international airing rights.

If we have an agreement consistent with the paragraph above, the end of the show will be a month away. I have not decided whether to end the show after sixteen years or to continue at another station. Although there have been feelers received, I have not met with anyone to negotiate any agreement. For now, I only wish to put on record the events as seen from our side, on the issue.

In retrospect, there are many things I could have done to prevent this entire incident from ballooning to this proportion. I realize how our cries of censorship hurt GMA 7 and yourself. I also feel that by our having accepted the UP invitation and giving interviews to print media, we brought the issue outside the confines of the station. Christian teaching identifies the greatest sin as that of PRIDE. And of this I and my staff in TPT are guilty. Knowing full well that we are parting ways, I do not want to leave without apologizing to you if I have caused you personal hurt on this issue. I truly regret that it has come to this point but trust that you will understand how the circumstances surrounding this incident led us to react the way we did.

Sincerely yours,
Cheche Lazaro

 

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Feb 19, 2004 at 03:15 PM
Alejandro is new president of ABS-CBN

By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
The Philippine Star 02/19/2004


Media giant ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. announced yesterday the appointment of business executive Luis Alejandro as the network’s new president and chief operating officer effective May this year.

Alejandro is presently the chief operating officer of Heinz UFC Philippines Inc. and president and chief operating officer of Southeast Asia Food Inc. With combined revenues of close to P4 billion, these companies are considered the leading players in the sauces and condiments industry.

He takes over the position vacated by Federico Garcia who retired from the network last December. Garcia served as ABS-CBN’s president for eight years and now holds a senior management consultant position at the company.

Garcia has been credited with the re-emergence of ABS-CBN as the country’s leading network. He was, in fact, responsible for the highly successful telenovela series, some of which are being exported and shown in other countries. Garcia’s pioneering spirit had led him to direct the network towards other lucrative ventures like the Talent Center and Star Cinema.

An economics graduate of Ateneo de Manila University, Alejandro has likewise earned a masters degree in business management from the Asian Institute of Management. He is married to Cynthia Catalan and they have three children.

Alejandro has 24 years of combined experience in brand/marketing operations and general management. He started his career at Procter & Gamble where he built a solid 15-year marketing track record which culminated as category manager/marketing director of the beauty care category. He assumed a US posting and Asia marketing responsibilities towards the latter part of his stint in the consumer goods market leader.

In 1995, Alejandro joined Kraft Foods Philippines, Inc. as president and peneral manager. During his term with Kraft, revenues grew at double-digit levels while market shares across categories were at leadership or strong number two positions.

ABS-CBN is the Philippines’ leading broadcasting company and first multi-media content provider with operations in the television, radio, cable, film, music, Internet and magazine platforms. Outside the Philippines, ABS-CBN operates in the United States, Europe, and Middle East.
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That Alejandro guy has very big shoes to fill considering he's taking over from Fredie Garcia, who's considered a genius, and the fact he has no experience in television/media. I may be making a hasty judgement  but I think its downhill from here for ABS-CBN. But who knows, lets give their new prexy a chance.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: llanesmark777 on Feb 25, 2004 at 03:14 PM
Mayron sila parehong strong points (ABS_CBN and GMA7). GMA does a good concept in terms of their programs. Kaya nagrarate talaga. ABS-CBN naman magaling sa pag promote ng mga shows at mga talents nila sobra sa exposure kaya sumusikat. Purely bussiness ang ABS. Kapag laos na ang isang artista o sabihin natin di bumebenta inaalis na nila. Sayang nga naman ang pinapasweldo.
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 23, 2004 at 06:44 PM
Got this article sa E-Mail, interesting:  ;D


     ABS-CBN has been put in a bad light again. A lot of sectors have tried to drag the name of this enviable giant into the mud of doubt.  Just recently, they put political color to the fact that ABS-CBN management met with Dolphy about his show “Home Along the Airport”.  They ignored the current goings-on in the program line-up of the station: MTB was reformatted into MTB: Ang Saya-Saya! by getting Arnel Ignacio retaining a few stars, adding some and sacking Randy Santiago, John Estrada and other stars; Berks was dropped and replaced by Lukso ng Dugo;Whattamen and Klasmeyts were taken out, some of the stars were placed in Yes Yes Show while others became show-less; Kris Aquino’s Game Ka Na Ba? was also axed and replaced with Star Circle Quest, etc...Do all these suggest political color?

     Instead, they (this includes Richard Gomez and Armida Siguon-Reyna, both with GMA 7 and staunch supporters of FPJ) chose to speculate that ABS-CBN was supporting Arroyo’s candidacy as allegedly “evidenced” by ABS-CBN’s allegedly “offering” of Noli De Castro to be PGMA’s running mate so that he can help her on the popularity department. They speculated further that, in return, PGMA would be lenient on ABS’s other businesses such as Meralco and Maynilad Waters. And because Dolphy openly supported FPJ, they jumped the gun and assumed, without any proof, that the purpose of the meeting would be that Dolphy’s show would be axed and the reason was because he was supporting FPJ! Kris Aquino openly supported PGMA, supposedly ABS’s bet, but her show was axed! If a show would indeed be axed, could there really be a political motive or could it just be plain and simple programming strategy?

     Today Newspaper opinion writer Dan Mariano wrote in his article entitled “Dolphy, Political Martyr?”: “In typical fashion of the newspaper (Philippine Daily Inquirer) that published the tale on no less than its front page matched with a huge top of the fold photo of the comedian, only one source was cited as the supplier of the information on Dolphy’s alleged dismissal from ABS-CBN. Worse, that source was not named.  Worst of all, the report offered no other informant that could positively confirm the first anonymous source’s allegation.  Evidently, the daily’s editors set no store by the fundamental newsroom principle of second sourcing.”

     “The lame excuse that Dolphy ‘did not make himself available for comment’ capped the report’s many journalistic infirmities. The caption on the front-page photo of a haggard looking Dolphy did not bother to say when and where it was taken, but made it seem as though he chose to make no comment when confronted by a battery of reporters. For all we know, the picture is a file photo.” Inquirer, as we all know, is affiliated with GMA 7 through Inq7.net. Again and again, the Lopezes have been looked upon as businessmen who would go to any length just to satisfy their greedy ends. GMA 7 had repeatedly maligned ABS-CBN and accused the station of protecting the interests of their owners by being partial. Mike Enriquez was sanctioned by KBP for insinuating that ABS-CBN has political and business interests to protect and therefore, should not be patronized. Hmm...Let me see...I did a little research and here’s what I discovered. Ever wondered why, though GMA 7 was already in existence in the 80’s, they didn’t play a role in the 1st People Power revolt and/or to the events leading to it?  

     Same reason why, post-Marcos, they didn’t have any notable documentary (like ABS’s “Batas Militar”) or investigative nmaterial on the deposed president and his regime. Well, Gilberto Duavit, one of the owners of GMA, was a known Marcos crony and a former Malacanang official under the dictator! GMA persisted during Martial Law while ABS was closed down! Mr. Duavit was also the Secretary General of the LAMP Party whose titular head was former President Estrada. Ever wondered why most, if not all, of the expose’s leading to Estrada’s impeachment did not originate from GMA’s “award winning” investigative group? Or why Duavit’s son and former GMA executive Cong. Michael John Duavit, was part of the “brat pack” bent on impeaching Davide, Chief Justice during the trial of Erap, whom his father is an ally of?   A congressman in the family... So what is their stand on the pork barrel? Menardo Jimenez, 2nd of GMA’s triumvirate, is a member of San Miguel Corporation’s board while his son, Butch, is PLDT Corporate Communications Head as well as a top GMA executive. How would GMA handle bad news about these companies?  Atty. Felipe Gozon, now president of GMA, questionably booted out the PROBE Team even as Cheche Lazaro maintained that they exerted due diligence in their report on the PAGCOR chief. Is there a hidden agenda? Now, Mike Enriquez, can you tell the public about all these things? Can you tell the people with your usual arrogance that your beloved station is impartial and does not have any interests to protect? Shame on all of you in GMA! You have been deceiving the public all these years. At least ABS-CBN is honest. Everybody knows which companies they are affiliated with. ABS has always been open to any inquiry. GMA, on the other hand, pretends to be impartial but they have their hidden interests!!! Or maybe the joke of-a-broadcaster that Mike is, he isn’t aware that all his beliefs are false! Now. Who has credibility?

Mike, do your “home”-work. Know thyself before you sling mud on others! Buwitre!!!!

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Mar 23, 2004 at 11:41 PM

it is interesting indeed mr. big boy.  ;D

with regards to the naming of the source, i think any journalist has the right not to name his or her source so as to protect that person and at the same time assure the continuous flow of vital information without being discovered. (in relation to this, whistlerblowers are more of a rarity than the standard in our society).

but the argument of "second sourcing" is indeed valid.

with regards to gma's non-involvement in the first people power, i think they covered the first people power revolution. immobilized ang ibang tv stations at that time.

with regards to the involvement of duavit with erap, just look at beaver lopez.  ;D

with regards to the martial law features: star cinema made 'eskapo' mainly because geny lopez was one of the hero in the movie. malaki ang galit ng mga lopez sa mga marcos. still, to their benefit, the martial law years were indeed dark times.  :'(

both stations are intensely waging war at each other, they are now forgetting what really is important: the broadcast of events in an OBJECTIVE MANNER. media companies keep expanding their businesses that in the end, they have to compromise their integrity with their interests.

just an observation:
the email is just so "anti-gma", the writer forgot that the issue is not about gma but about dolphy and abs-cbn, di ba?  :)

peace  ;D



Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 24, 2004 at 01:05 PM
I agree with you Excalibur that the main issue is about ABS-CBN and Dolphy, and that issue should had stayed between them.  The problem is politicians are trying to make a spin out of this issue, and GMA and Inquirer being totally irresponsible and bias because of their vested interest as usual, is riding on an issue that is purely internal corporate and showbiz affair.  But there is a side issue here and a more important one.  The issue of media power and how it can be used to destroy peoples reputation and institutions.

Have you seen the Newscast of GMA's “24 Oras”, specifically their interview with Mike Defensor?  My God si Mel at Mike tag team ang dalawa, I never ever seen such blatant display of bias and unprofessionalism before.  If you haven’t seen that episode you wouldn’t know what I’m talking about.

On the course of the interview Mel Tiangco even blurted out in all her pacute at pa-baby style of interviewing "Hindi naman naniniwala ang... sambayanan Pilipino sa sinasabi niyo" she almost said "ako".  Sinabi rin niya "Hindi naman kayo spokesperson ng mga Lopez diba, spokesperson kayo ni Gloria".  All her questions is insulting to any intellectually able viewers.  He even implied that Manila Water is honest unlike Maynilad because hindi naman daw nalulugi ang Manila Water of Ayala, she knew naman siguro that Manila Water got only got 15% of the concession and is paying 1000% cheaper concession fee plus the fact that Maynilad shouldered 90% of MWSS  total debts.  I think they mentioned ABS-CBN 100 times in that interview garapal talaga.

And I would like to add one more thing.  Bob Stewart used to own GMA, because of some miracle it landed on the hands of a Marcos crony, there are a lot of stories on how it got to the hands of the 3 present owners, and it's also an interesting story.

And about Beaver Lopez and Jackie Estrada, that is a different  thing romantic in nature naman ang relationship nila at hindi political or business, infact Meralco was not given a rate hike even if Beaver is the son of Manolo Lopez the President of Meralco.

 ;D
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 24, 2004 at 01:39 PM



"Bob Stewart used to own GMA, because of some miracle it landed on the hands of a Marcos crony, there are a lot of stories on how it got to the hands of the 3 present owners, and it's also an interesting story."

In  fact, Bob Stewart left the country  heartbroken and in disgust because of the take-over.

"And about Beaver Lopez and Jackie Estrada, that is a different  thing romantic in nature naman ang relationship nila at hindi political or business, infact Meralco was not given a rate hike even if Beaver is the son of Manolo Lopez the President of Meralco."

 ::)
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 24, 2004 at 01:45 PM
GMA-7 aired  FPJ's campaign kick-off rally staged in the Cuneta Astrodome one Saturday. This only means... :o
Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: greatbop on Mar 24, 2004 at 01:53 PM
i never read much of the earlier replies but- NONE. they both stink.

I can not stand watching any of their shows... I also do not like the idea that a single talent works on so many shows within that channel.

this really feels like the Heyday of WWF vs WCW to tell you the truth. Talents jumping ship every other week. (maybe one channel may end up owning the other just like Vinny Mac??). What one does, the other tries to outdo the other.

Frankly, i even find myself watching Channel 9 and Channel 5 more (not since they started showing PBA every day though). Cause that league also $uck [email protected]$.

Pero more times than never, i only watch cable channels.

Lifestyle network's kinda boring na rin with the same show rotations. (can't they afford to buy more??)

Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 24, 2004 at 02:27 PM
ABS-CBN woos Dolphy
back home: source
Posted: 11:11 PM (Manila Time) | Mar. 23, 2004
By Gil C. Cabacungan Jr. and Marinel R. Cruz
Inquirer News Service

ABS-CBN, the home studio of comedy king Dolphy, appears to have backtracked from its decision to cancel "Home Along Da Airport," according to a source close to the comedian.

A top executive of the giant network reportedly called Dolphy on Monday and asked him to resume taping on Friday.

"Dolphy said the network would give him another show that he will not be able to refuse," the source added.

The comedian, however, reportedly said he would not accept the offer.

Dolphy and Fernando Poe Jr. met Monday night during the taping of Poe's campaign jingle "May Bagong Umagang Darating" in Libis, Quezon City.

Poe reportedly told Dolphy that he felt bad because he was the reason the comedian lost his TV show, the Inquirer source said.

"OK lang, pare, ang mahalaga manalo ka (That's all right. Your victory is what's important)," the source quoted Dolphy as saying.

Formal launch

Even as ABS-CBN was reportedly courting Dolphy, a top executive of Associated Broadcasting Corp. Channel 5 on Tuesday said its management was in "serious discussions" with Dolphy, who played the role of Kevin Cosme in the long-running "Home Along Da Riles" (and its sequel "Home Along Da Airport"), for a high-profile transfer to the revitalized broadcast station now controlled by businessman Antonio "Tonyboy" Cojuangco.

The actor is not allowed to discuss his pending departure from the network because of a stipulation in his contract preventing him from saying "anything derogatory" against ABS-CBN, the source said, adding the contract also prohibits him from resigning from the show.

Reached by the Inquirer for comment, Maloli Manalastas, ABS-CBN vice president for government, corporate affairs and public relations, said: "As earlier stated, ABS-CBN remains firm with our position that agreements between the management and the artist will be treated with confidentiality."

The ABC executive, who requested anonymity, said negotiations were being coursed through Dolphy's son, actor-director Eric Quizon, and that both sides were just waiting for the 75-year-old comedian's contract with ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp.'s Channel 2 to end soon.

Dolphy's transfer would be announced next month at the broadcast station's formal launch, the executive said.

Despite Dolphy's unblemished record with the network, the Lopez-controlled ABS-CBN reportedly did not like the fact that one of their main stars was actively campaigning for opposition presidential candidate Poe.

The Lopezes are believed to be supporting the reelection bid of President Macapagal-Arroyo whose running mate, Senator Noli de Castro, is a newsroom talent of the broadcast station.

ABS-CBN officials, however, insisted they did not meddle or influence choices made by their talents.

Poe's party, the opposition Koalisyon ng Nagkakaisang Pilipino (Coalition of United Filipinos, KNP), however, said it had received reports that ABS-CBN officials had ordered its talents and contract stars to campaign only for the President and her K-4 ticket.

In a press statement, the KNP also noted that the network had never denied that it was planning to cancel Dolphy's show.

Ratings impact

Part of the ABC management's overall strategy is to utilize Dolphy in a totally different and fresh take than his most recent incarnation, the ABC executive added.

The source said the management considered Dolphy a unique case, adding that he is one of the most enduring institutions in show business and his presence alone would give ABC an immediate impact in the ratings game.

Several other ABS-CBN talents have reportedly sent feelers about joining ABC, but network officials said it would take its time going over the new applications.

Cojuangco spent over two billion pesos when he took over ABC-5 last year, and has put up another one billion pesos to beef up the network's facilities, talent and content.

The executive said the changes would not be immediate but would unfold in the next 12 months as it establishes itself as a force to reckon with in the television industry dominated by ABS-CBN and GMA Network, Inc.


Title: Re:ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 24, 2004 at 02:28 PM
i never read much of the earlier replies but- NONE. they both stink.


Yeah, both networks SUCK!!! And they do nothing but copy each other.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: garee on Apr 16, 2004 at 03:38 PM
GMA7. kapuso mo ako  O0
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Xiami on Apr 20, 2004 at 02:50 AM
None here. Both lacking in content. ABS relies too much on the "star powers" than content but ABS promotes their network  better than GMA.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: crezi_munky on Apr 27, 2004 at 08:04 AM
none...both network show stupid and annoying movie stars!  >:D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: pinoycoolwacky on May 22, 2004 at 02:26 AM
Well! As far as international scene is concern I guess ABS-CBN has more edge compared to GMA-7. Because for ONE thing ABS-CBN has its TFC while GMA - sorry but I dont think they have this kind of franchise internationally.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Koolkat on May 31, 2004 at 06:19 AM
GMA. I rarely watch local channels anymore, but GMA still has bubble gang and some sitcoms that Im watching every  now and then. sa abs cbn ,grabe ang telenovela nila. Starting from 6pm to 10pm!!!?? nakainis especially if someone from your house wathces all of them each and every day. It means they will hog the tv up until primetime.
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Post by: Hitman on Jun 27, 2004 at 08:10 PM
GMA 7,mas natural at pangmasa ang mga artista nila...di kamukha sa abs na napakadaming talents na maaarte >:(
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Post by: RitchieNolasco on Jun 27, 2004 at 08:14 PM
Even though they are very powerful, they still both suck!

One of them generates a hit, the other simply imitates instead of coming up with something new and original.

ABS-CBN and GMA are both IDIOTIZING the Filipino masa!
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Post by: shu_lien on Jul 21, 2004 at 10:39 AM
GMA 7 - KAPUSO !   :D

        I tried watching ABS-CBN shows,gags, etc..  naBWISIT lang ako! I did not enjoy.. not even a minute...  >:(
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Post by: aszamora on Jul 21, 2004 at 02:44 PM

 TV Patrol lang pinapanood ko sa ABS and even though I rarely watch Tagalog shows and sitcoms, I think GMA is better in this aspect based on some shows I've seen. Tama iyong iba. I tried watching some ABS sitcoms and shows but I didn't laugh 1 bit pero sa GMA, Eat Bulaga pa lang nakailang tawa na ako. Sana lang iimprove pa nila ang programs nilang 2 para hindi naman bumaba intellect ng viewers.
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Post by: shu_lien on Jul 22, 2004 at 12:18 PM

 TV Patrol lang pinapanood ko sa ABS and even though I rarely watch Tagalog shows and sitcoms, I think GMA is better in this aspect based on some shows I've seen. Tama iyong iba. I tried watching some ABS sitcoms and shows but I didn't laugh 1 bit pero sa GMA, Eat Bulaga pa lang nakailang tawa na ako. Sana lang iimprove pa nila ang programs nilang 2 para hindi naman bumaba intellect ng viewers.

Korek ka jan!  :)

PAreho tayo, i watch News lang din.   Pero In fairness, mas gusto ko "THE BUZZ" pagdating sa showbiz talks.. Magaling naman kasi si Boy ABunda... Un lang dalawa so far ang nakita kong maganda sa kanila...
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Post by: jerix on Jul 29, 2004 at 10:54 AM
I know that most pinoys are glued to these two networks during their viewing time, especially the C,D, and E population -- we might be enjoyin the shows and programs of these two competing tv networks but much of what have become the pinoys now typifies what these two are showing most of the time.  ::)
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Post by: viper on Jul 31, 2004 at 04:30 PM
I was browsing through the past posts for past few weeks and I was surprised that none (particularly the later posts) even mentioned the legal tussle between ABS/GMA/Kris.

Either it is a non-issue or sub-judice ::)  (meaning removed?)
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Post by: greatbop on Jul 31, 2004 at 05:13 PM
i think i speak for everybody when i say "Who The F cares about their legal tussle crap?"
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Post by: shu_lien on Aug 01, 2004 at 03:17 PM
as for Kris, truth hurts... really  ;D
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Post by: RMN on Aug 02, 2004 at 03:05 PM
partners mel and joey (de leon) ??? this i gotta see...
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Aug 03, 2004 at 04:57 PM
partners mel and joey (de leon) ??? this i gotta see...

hmmm...  a matrona and a b**chy closet queen, great combination, sounds interesting!  lol
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Post by: X-®an™ on Aug 04, 2004 at 12:10 PM


hmmm...  a matrona and a b**chy closet queen, great combination, sounds interesting!  lol


Joey De Leon, a closet queen?  Now I've heard it all  ::)
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Sep 13, 2004 at 10:35 PM
Ganito na katindi ang competition ng dalawang ito!

MOST WANTED
Cristy Fermin
Sept.12,2004 Bulgar


DI LANG SI KRIS...
BERNADETTE, CLAUDINE AT PIOLO BINANATAN DIN NG SIYETE


Ang nilalaman ng rejoinder affidavit ni Tet Defensor, dating program publicity manager ng GMA-7, ang katibayang mapanghahwakan ngayon hindi lamang ni Kris Aquino kundi pati na ng ABS-CBN na totoo palang
sadya at pinagsusunugan ng kilay ng Kapuso network ang pagbira ng personal sa kalaban nilang istasyon.

Sa kanyang huling pagkakataon ng kanyang sinmupaang salaysay ay naibigay ni Tet sa korte ang mga dokumentong naglalaman ng mga detalye kung paano tinatrabaho ng Siyete ang kanilang ANTI-ABS "NOISE".  Ayon kay Tet, wala pa siya sa siyete ay meron nang pangyayaring pagpaplano, Feb.19,2004 ang petsa ng dokumento, samantalng March 1,2004 opisyal na naging empleyado ng istasyon si Tet, pero isinasama na sya sa miting. Ang dokumento na minarkahang "Annex C" sa rejoinder affidavit ni Tet ay isang email na ipinadala kay Butch Racquel, OIC For Corporate Comunications ng Siyete, na mula naman kina Rosette Hernandez at Gigi Santiago na parehong unit managers ng GMA-7.

Ang nilalaman ng e-mail ay puro negatibo sa mga programa ng ABS-CBN, humaba nang humaba ang dokumento dahil sa pagpapalitan ng opinyon ng mga kinauukulan, pero ang kabuuan ay nakatutok lamang sa kung paano
nila ibabagsak ang lahat ng artista at programa ng Dos. Unang halimbawa, tungkol kay Kris Aquino na nagsampa na ng kasong libelo laban sa mg ehekutibo ng istasyon na nagkakahalaga ng P80-M dahil sa lumabas na press release ng Siyete nung July 9 na puro kasiraan nito ang nilalaman, ay ganito ang sinasabi sa dokumento:

"What about... Kris Aquino, turn-off na ang mga viewers kaya tsugi na ang show at kahit anong show pa siya ilagay...NEGA ang perception. Liar sya. I rest my case. (Santiago,Gigi Q.) WVG:'Wag na tayong makisawsaw dito, lumalabas na naman ito" Ang WVG na nagkomento ay si Wilma V. Galvante, VP for Entertainment ng GMA-7. Ito ang sinasabi ni Tet Defensor sa kanyang affidavit na ang eksaktong nilalaman ay ganito, "The column feed against ABS-CBN and Kris Aquino was formulated as early as Feb.19,2004 (that time I was not yet employed at GMA-7) it can be seen from an email sent to Mr. Butch Racquel on this date with the subject heading: "ANTI-ABS NOISE" by one Rosette Hernandez and one Gigi Santiago,both unit managers of GMA Network. Attached is a copy of the original message marked as Annex C."

Nasa dokumento rin ang komento tungkol kay Bernadette Sembrano, dating host ng Wish Ko Lang na lumipat na sa Dos, tinawag nilang "Halik ni Hudas" ang paghalik ng mabait na host kina Ms. Charo Santos at Ms. Cory Vidanes. Tungkol naman kina Piolo Pascual at Claudine Barretto ay tinawag nilang "lukewarm at flopchina" ang pelikulang Milan, hiwalay ang pag-aangat nila sa napakaliit na papel ni Iza Calzado sa Milan, na ganito
ang sinasabi, " Diba, pwedeng mapalabas na it was Te Amo's Iza Calzado that saved the film from total devastation? Gamitin natin to our advantage ang participation ni Iza in a Star Cinema film that even they saw her markadong performance as Mary Grace, Piolo's wife. (Santiago, Gigi Q.)"

Isa pang banat ito, "Kailangan nating i-dilute ang excitement of Piolo on primetime na coming soon (referring to Mangarap Ka). Walang K ang kanilang mga fresh talents na isalaksak sa A.S.A.P. (referring to Sarah Geronimo, Erik Santos, Star In A Million Finalists and SCQ). Wala silang talent nor karisma sa tao. Meron pa ngang mukhang transvestita." "Lets scream to the amazing gains of the likes of Rainier (eg. Fans' Day last Sunday). Extra Challenge this week's survivor StarStruck vs. Kris Aquino as glorified standupper/continuity V.O. in this week's trying hard to be Extra Challenge Format of GKNB na dapat machukchak na! Bomba stars making fools of themselves versus our fresh talents? Wagi tayo di hamak. (Santiago, Gigi Q.) "WVG: If we talk about them, dapat isang malaking banat lang, balik agad sa GMA. Lets not talk about them, lest we generate excitement for them." Ngayon ay alam na namin kung saan nag-ugat ang mga ganitong atake sa mga kolum na nabasa namin, nasagot na ang matagal na naming hinahanap, nandito lang pala sa dokumentong hawak ni Tet na ganito ang sinasabi:

" We need a strong position on GMA as a network is now the REAL STAR MAKER. Personality sila. Tayo, network as entity. Si Mr. M na ibinabandera nila in their release, hindi na nga ang so-called Talent Center nila. Hindi ba maganda i-ask - paano na na ang dose-dosenang mga bata from tha last 12 Star Circles na patay na ang career ngayon. Saan ang staying power? Shopping ng shopping para sa mga bagets...para saan? maging FROZEN DELIGHT at ibuburo ang mga bagets? (Santiago, Gigi Q.) WVG: Okay ang idea na network as entity as REAL STARMAKER not one personality. Na-prove ng GMA na we know how to do it the best way possible. Message should include: CREDIBILITY is with GMA na."

Ang dami-dami pa, napkarami pa, tulad ng banat nila sa Marina na ganito naman ang takbo ng kanilang publisidad. "Marina daw revolutionary...Eh bakit di nila i-air ngayon na? Bugbog sa plug pero para ba yang ampao na pag kinagat, hangin ang lalabas? " Takot ba sila sa tunay at totoong galing ng GMA  gumawa ng mahusay at dekalibreng SERYE o totoo nga na hindi pa tapos ang first episode at naloloka sila to finish? Ayaw natin ito, baka ma-excite sila sa paglabas. E kung di mailabas baka hindi maganda ang pagkakagawa? Don't tell me di sila gawa ng MTV nito?Laos! Malapit na. Malapit na malapit na raw si Marina. Lunurin ang mga sirena.Kailan ba talaga ang showing nito, kuya?" Ilan lamang ito sa mga pagpapalitan ng komento-ideya nina Ms.Wilma Galvante, Rosette Hernandez at Gigi Santiago sa email na nakuha ni Tet Santiago bilang ebidensya laban sa pamunuan ng Siyete.

Habang isinusulat namin ang kolum na ito ay nanlalata at napapailing kami, ang lahat ng nababasa namin ngayon sa hawak naming dokumento ay nabasa namin sa mga pahayagan,nalulungkot kami dahil ang akala nami'y personal na opinyon ng mga manunulat ang aming nabasa. Napaniwala kami na yun ang tunay nilang paninindigan, akala nami'y sinasaladuhan nila talaga ang GMA-7, pero ang mga pinanggalingan palang hulmahan ang mga papuring yun na ibinabagasak naman ang ABS-CBN."

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Post by: Astroantiquity on Sep 14, 2004 at 02:34 AM
Well, I have always preferred GMA over ABS.  Although, they look like twisted reflections of each other.  But, as far as compensations are concerned, I'll go with GMA.
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Post by: AshKetchum on Sep 14, 2004 at 11:28 AM
I can't stand both. And what's with their current obsession over "reality" shows? Saw this annoying Diva show being plugged on a cable station--it's an obvious rip-off of The Swan mixed with American Idol, the same way Victim Extreme is a rip-off of Punk'd and Extra Challenge a rip-off of The Amazing Race.

I'm just hoping that these 2 networks will destroy each other...but what do I care? I already deleted them from the programmed channels on my TV, and that's good enough for me. ;D
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Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 14, 2004 at 02:09 PM
On my case, for news and current affairs i like ABS CBN but for showbiz tsimis sa GMA 7 ako.
Nagsasawa na kasi ako sa ka - artehan ni Kris Aquino eh..  :P
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Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 14, 2004 at 02:49 PM
after years of not watching local shows, i've realized that our shows are crap! no offense but this is only my observation.  you can't get any value from their primetime shows except documentaries of probe productions by cheche lazaro.  i could say they can be entertaining but that's it.  news are most of the times recycled and just updated upon delivery of newer info.  our local news can be exaggerated, stereotyped and branded as "true service to the filipinos" haha what a lame tag line.  for showbiz, naaaah you'll just get a buzz who went preggy, who's with somebody, starlets blabbing and quarelling about nothing blah blah blah

sometimes i wonder, what good can i get watching local shows in this primary networks.

patulan ko pa siguro if i see "when animals attack these local stars" ala axn's when animals attack hahaha
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Post by: Vhongbiker on Sep 17, 2004 at 12:15 PM
news and current affairs i like GMA 7 (imbestigador)
variety show ABS-CBN
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Post by: Reuven Malter on Oct 10, 2004 at 05:37 AM
i think i speak for everybody when i say "Who The F cares about their legal tussle crap?"

people who care about what the clueless masses are listening to... the masses follow anything that moves/ is sensational/hyped...
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Post by: Great Buys on Oct 13, 2004 at 01:07 PM
after years of not watching local shows, i've realized that our shows are crap! no offense but this is only my observation.  you can't get any value from their primetime shows except documentaries of probe productions by cheche lazaro.  i could say they can be entertaining but that's it.  news are most of the times recycled and just updated upon delivery of newer info.  our local news can be exaggerated, stereotyped and branded as "true service to the filipinos" haha what a lame tag line.  for showbiz, naaaah you'll just get a buzz who went preggy, who's with somebody, starlets blabbing and quarelling about nothing blah blah blah

sometimes i wonder, what good can i get watching local shows in this primary networks.

patulan ko pa siguro if i see "when animals attack these local stars" ala axn's when animals attack hahaha

I agree with you completely.

Even worse is, these stations tends to hype things up to the maximium just to earn money. Recent example would be Jasmine Trias, they alwways seem to cook up angles just to make money out of her.  Same with the likes of Rico Yan, F$ and Angelo dela Cruz.

KAPAL TALAGA!!!
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Post by: RMN on Nov 19, 2004 at 06:00 PM
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Is this for real???
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Post by: indie boi on Nov 19, 2004 at 06:10 PM
My wife just got home and bowled me over with her news that Charo Santos and six other VPs resigned from ABS-CBN. Johnny Manahan also resigned.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 19, 2004 at 06:46 PM
yikes! so are the rumors of gma-abscbn rigodon true?!
more abs-cbn execs are not satisfied with new management decisions.
tsk tsk
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Post by: keating on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:02 PM
My wife just got home and bowled me over with her news that Charo Santos and six other VPs resigned from ABS-CBN. Johnny Manahan also resigned.

Indie boi what could be the reason why these high profile people resigned at Abs-cbn?  ???
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Post by: edboy7 on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:43 PM


Indie boi what could be the reason why these high profile people resigned at Abs-cbn?  ???
ako alam ko, lilipat ng GMA :P ;D one of the vp @ abs now was our ex-bigboss.....hmmmmm ::)
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Post by: indie boi on Nov 19, 2004 at 08:48 PM


Indie boi what could be the reason why these high profile people resigned at Abs-cbn?  ???

No word yet from my wifey. Their office was buzzing all the day but no one has given a definitive explanation. But ABS-CBN's falling ratings may be one of the reasons.

All she knows is that the group who resigned leaked their intentions first to the media before handing in their resignation. ABS-CBN's stock plummeted today and there is talk of massive downsizing to cover the loss.

Oh, and it looks like Korina Sanchez will be given an administrative position.

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Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 19, 2004 at 11:10 PM
Wow! is this good news or bad news? pero to tell honestly, hindi ko na nagugustuhan ang mga programa ng ABS, from MTB hanggang telenovela, from showbiz show to sunday variety show. paulit ulit na lng. one thing i enjoy at ABS ay yung news nila..anyway, when i feel bored on TV programs, i just watch DVD na lang kahit re-run enjoy naman... ;D
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Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 20, 2004 at 12:17 AM
and have you noticed lately, THEY"RE NOT ON TIME as usual
their program skeds are always being pushed forward, both abs-cbn and gma!
ay naku!
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Nov 20, 2004 at 12:34 AM
My wife just got home and bowled me over with her news that Charo Santos and six other VPs resigned from ABS-CBN. Johnny Manahan also resigned.

I read this yesterday.  I don't know which is true, nag resign ba o nag leave.  But definitely something big is brewing in Bohol Avenue Compound.

Maybe the ABS-CBN President found these executives to be overrated and overpaid.  Nag excel ang ABS-CBN nung wala pang competition ngayon meron na hindi pala ganun kagagaling ang mga executives na malalaki ang salaries na ito.



ABS-CBN execs didn't quit... just `on leave'?
FUNFARE By Ricardo F. Lo
The Philippine Star 11/19/2004

BREAKING NEWS: As we go to press, Funfare's roving DPA files a hush-rush "scoop" that seven ABS-CBN bigwigs have filed a "mass resignation," namely Charo Santos-Concio, EVP for Entertainment; Johnny "Mr. M" Manahan, head of the ABS-CBN Talent Center; Cory Vidanes, SVP for TV Production; Mariole Alberto, VP for Talent Development; Deo Endrinal, VP for Talk and Variety; Malou Santos, SVP for Drama Production and Star Cinema; and director Olivia Lamasan, VP for Drama Production and Star Cinema.

Oops! Disturbing, isn't it, especially since other major changes are currently going on in that station.

I checked with my "insider" DPA and she said (of course, of course!) that it's not true. She said that Charo has been on "sick leave" and will be back at work starting today. Malou and Olive have been also "on leave" in faraway Cebu (perfect place for some, ehem, "breathing space") and the others are likewise scheduled to just, ho-hum, "go on leave."

Two weeks ago, Funfare reported that Deo has resigned but he was persuaded upon to stay. And now, Deo is also "going on leave?

Oh, well, it must be "vacation time" at ABS-CBN, close on the heels of the schools' semestral break.
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Post by: edboy7 on Nov 20, 2004 at 01:08 AM
and have you noticed lately, THEY"RE NOT ON TIME as usual
their program skeds are always being pushed forward, both abs-cbn and gma!
ay naku!
sinabi mo pa :) working with them is even worst....classic ex.(would happen most of the time >:() a 30min show(tele) to be aired @6pm darating sa studio for audioposting ng  5:45 so you have 15 mins to work on a 30 min material!!!! galing ano po ;D ayun! butas butas
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Post by: keating on Nov 20, 2004 at 09:14 AM


No word yet from my wifey. Their office was buzzing all the day but no one has given a definitive explanation. But ABS-CBN's falling ratings may be one of the reasons.

All she knows is that the group who resigned leaked their intentions first to the media before handing in their resignation. ABS-CBN's stock plummeted today and there is talk of massive downsizing to cover the loss.

Oh, and it looks like Korina Sanchez will be given an administrative position.



Thanks for the info indie boi. Looks like if there's smoke......there's fire right? I wonder what would happen now to Abs-Cbn programs.....they can't stand alone...although I havent watch any of their programs except for Current affairs.

These high profile people especially Ms. Charo Santos Concio gave 100% devotion to their jobs professionally wise same with Mr. Johnny Manahan. Ms. Concio should go back to line-producing worth movies like what she's done before during the ECP days.....
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Nov 20, 2004 at 07:08 PM
Isang show ng Dos lugi ng P8-M
BABY TALK Ni Salve V. Asis
Pilipino STAR Ngayon 11/20/2004

Nagkakagulo pala ngayon sa ABS-CBN. As in na-hurt daw ang mga executive including Ms. Charo Santos nang pagalitan sila ni Mr. Gabby Lopez matapos silang sitahin tungkol sa pagkalugi ng ilang shows ng ABS-CBN. Ayon sa source, meron daw kasi silang isang show na P8 million ang lugi nila pero bakit pa raw itinutuloy.

As of yesterday, pumasok na raw si Ms. Charo Santos kaya hindi totoong nagkaroon ng mass resignation na kumalat sa text messages no'ng isang araw.

Bumaba raw ang morale ng mga executive kaya nagdahilan ang iba na meron silang sakit kaya hindi nag-report sa opisina.
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Post by: indie boi on Nov 21, 2004 at 06:20 PM
Yes, Charo Santos and co. came back -- because their resignations were not accepted. They were just asked by Mr. Alejandro to take a short leave instead to think things through.



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Post by: RMN on Dec 20, 2004 at 01:23 PM
i was watching the live abs-cbn christmas special last night where, during the finale, gabby lopez gave all the top brass a hug including charo santos. both gabby and charo shared a mic, sang together, with his arms around her. could this mean that all is now well between the two of them?
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Post by: Glenn Patrick on Feb 23, 2005 at 02:04 PM
From http://www.mb.com.ph/ENTR2005022329290.html

The art of word war
De Leon's Den: Joey De Leon
The Manila Bulletin 02/23/05

Many has been said and written as to the worded missiles I launched on "Eat Bulaga" last Feb. 14 this year in reaction to "The Buzz’s" tirade of our show the day before. Sumabit din sila sa wakas sa mga blind items nila! Sino lang ba ang 25 year old noon time show, aber?


I want to direct this to whoever is the writer or writers of that "wanted" portion and the two gay voice-overs. First, it’s just fine if you allude to me as ancient. I don’t have a problem with that. We’ll all get old anyway. But you have a problem — baka kayo tumandang bakla lang! At tsaka pangit sa bakla ang duwag…magpakilala kayo!

I am really old in this business. Imagine having appeared in 50 TV shows! Imagine going on board a dozen radio stations and having done a lot of movies. Imagine having written and recorded songs and receiving a lot of box office and lifetime achievement awards. Kaya nga may JOEY DE LEON na nakaukit d’yan sa pader ng building n’yo eh! Ay, ang mga bakla walang alam!

I want you to know that I don’t start a word war — I only react … ‘yung nga lang mas matindi at mas malupit. At kung minsan, matagal at mahaba. I believe in the art of word war and I know I am good at this. And my being good could be "very bad" for you. And I also believe you will be a better word warrior and have the edge if you’re on the side of truth. Ang hirap sa inyo, hindi na kayo totoo, hindi pa magaling ang mga writers n’yo!

And one more thing, you always say I’m pikon. Untrue. Hindi ba may kasabihan kayo d’yan — Ang pikon talo? How could that happen eh lagi kaming panalo?!

Well, what I actually said (in a very soft and mild manner) that Monday was, "We would like to greet Miss Kris Aquino a happy birthday…Happy Valentine too, … We love you all… lalo na sa ‘The Buzz’… kaya lang tinira n’yo kami… pero we love you… sabi n’yo nagpapalit kami ng set dahil gusto naming gayahin ang ‘Wowowee’… (wawa naman kayo mali information n’yo) buti nga kami set lang ang papalitan namin eh, kayo mga shows eh… ’Sanlinggo nAPO Sila’… ’Magandang Tanghali Bayan’…’Esep-Esep’… ’Masayang Tanghali Bayan’… tapos pinalitan n’yo pa ng ‘MTB Ang Saya-Saya’… (ang sunud-sunod naman, sino kaya next?) tsaka hindi namin ginagaya ang ‘Wowowee’ dahil ayaw namin ng rating na 10 percent (actually mga 13 percent or 14 percent naman ) … ang gusto namin 27 percent pataas… pero we love you… sana hindi na tayo magtirahan."


And that, more or less, is the truth.


Pareng Willie, sisihin mo sila. They made buzz-tos to us first and we simply reacted. They’re not even our direct competition. If they were? He, he, he … Nakisawsaw lang baga or maybe it was part of promoting your show.

Well, tuksuhan lang lahat ito para magpagalingan tayo and that’s the bottom line. I love ABS-CBN and I am thankful to the three generations of the Lopezes that I’ve worked with (talagang matanda na nga eh!) for putting my name in the pioneer list with the "greats" of radio and television. Siguro ako lang ‘yung ABS-CBN talent na bumalik sa Bohol nung dine-demolish na ‘yung old building para kumuha ng kapirasong bato ng old building with its original logo para itago at gawing souvenir. I still have it with me. Kaya kayong dalawang baklang voice-over ek ek at ‘yung writer ng ‘The Buzz,’ irespeto n’yo ako! Pwe! Pinagkakaabalahan ko pa kayo!

And here’s my coup de grace … ‘WAG NANG IPILIT, TALAGANG DOS LANG KAYO! Cute ‘no?

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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 23, 2005 at 04:01 PM
Mukha ngang nag-papanic na ang Eat Bulaga.  Kasi malakas talaga ang mga bagong shows na nilaunch ng ABS-CBN this 1st Quarter.  Infact matagal ng talo sa Ratings ang mighty Eat Bulaga ng "Pilipinas Game Ka Na Ba" ni Kris Aquino. 

Natutuwa lang ako kay Joey kasi ang lakas niyang bumanat tapos ngayon yung siya na ang binira galit na galit, very typical sa mga pintasero ang ganyang ugali, pag-sila na ang napintasan pikon na pikon. hehehe

Anyway ito yung latest survey share ko lang.  Para malaman niyo kung bakit nag papanic na si Joey.
  :)

AC Nielsen Rating for FEB 17, 2005 Thursday (DAYTIME)
MEGA-MANILA  
Magandang Umaga Bayan, 6.8% vs. Unang Hirit, 6.3%;
Homeboy , 11.6% vs. Dolphin Bay, 12%;
MRS , 17.8% vs. SiS, 15%;
Rubi, 20.4% vs. Irene, 21.3%;
Pilipinas GKNB, 27.9% & WOWOWEE 20.2%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 23.1%
KCinema, 19.3% vs. Daisy Siete, 17%, Saang Sulok ng Langit, 14.6%
SHOWBIZ #1, 16.2% Joyride, 11.3%;

MEGA-CEBU  
Magandang Umaga Bayan (ABS), 9.3% vs. Unang Hirit, 0.8%;
Homeboy , 16.2% vs. Dolphin Bay, 4.1%;
MRS , 20% vs. SiS, 11.8%;
Rubi, 28.1% vs. Irene, 9.0%;
Pilipinas GKNB, 34.9% & WOWOWEE 23.0%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 22.8%
KCinema, 20.2% vs. Daisy Siete, 9.8%, Saang - Sulok ng Langit , 5%
SHOWBIZ #1, 18.6% Joyride, 11.7%;

MEGA-DAVAO  
Magandang Umaga Bayan (ABS), 7.7% vs. Unang Hirit, 2.3%;
Homeboy , 17.5% vs. Dolphin Bay, 4.4%;
MRS , 22.2% vs. SiS, 4%;
Rubi, 25% vs. Irene, n/a;
Pilipinas GKNB, 39.1% & WOWOWEE 21.2%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 17.9%
KCinema, 18.1% vs. Daisy Siete, 6.6%, Saang Sulok ng Langit, 7%
SHOWBIZ #1, 16.2% Joyride, 12.9%;


AC Nielsen Rating for FEB 18, 2005 Friday (DAYTIME)
MEGA-MANILA
Magandang Umaga Bayan (ABS), 5.9% vs. Unang Hirit, 6%;
Homeboy , 15.0% vs. Dolphin Bay, 9.6%;
MRS , 15.7% vs. SiS, 13.2%;
Rubi, 22.8% vs. Irene, 19%;
Pilipinas GKNB, 25.4% & WOWOWEE 21.3%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 22.0%
KCinema, 18.5% vs. Daisy Siete, 19.7%, Saang Sulok ng Langit, 13.7%
SHOWBIZ #1, 17.5% Joyride, 12%;

MEGA-CEBU  
Magandang Umaga Bayan (ABS), 8.8% vs. Unang Hirit, 0.2%;
Homeboy , 18.8% vs. Dolphin Bay, 6.0%;
MRS , 21.1% vs. SiS, 10.7%;
Rubi, 27.9% vs. Irene, 6%;
Pilipinas GKNB, 38.2% & WOWOWEE 24.1%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 21%
KCinema, 24.8% vs. Daisy Siete, 10.8%, Saang Sulok ng Langit , 4.9%
SHOWBIZ #1, 17.1% Joyride, 10.3%;

MEGA-DAVAO  
Magandang Umaga Bayan (ABS), 10.0% vs. Unang Hirit, 2.2%;
Homeboy , 21.1% vs. Dolphin Bay, 5.2%;
MRS , 20.3% vs. SiS, 3.7%;
Rubi, 22.9% vs. Irene, 12.3%;
Pilipinas GKNB, 38.5% & WOWOWEE 22.4%; VS. EAT BULAGA, 19.0%
KCinema, 17.2% vs. Daisy Siete, n/a, Saang Sulok ng Langit, 8.5%
SHOWBIZ #1, 14.8% Joyride, 15.2%;


AC Nielsen Rating for FEB 21, 2005 Monday (DAYTIME)
MEGA MANILA
MUB (ABS) 7.0 vs. UH (GMA) 7.3
Homeboy 17.6 vs. Dolphin Bay 13.9
MRS 20.3 vs. SIS 16.7
Rubi 18.6vs. Irene 14.5
PGKNB 28 and Wowowee 21.7 vs. Eat Bulaga 24.5
Kapamilya Cinema 18.5 vs. Daisy Siete 18.5 and Saang Sulok ng Langit 16.1
Showbiz #1 15.3 vs. Joyride 12.2

Ang momentum nasa Wowowee lalakas pa ito, kaya mas iingay pa si Joey De Leon.  Masaya itong labanan na ito. :)



Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Glenn Patrick on Feb 23, 2005 at 04:20 PM
Buti nalang may cable channels. :)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 23, 2005 at 04:32 PM
I agree, pero when it comes to local news we can't rely to Foreign Channels obviously. :)

Anyway our local Networks have improved a lot in terms of technical quality, yan ang nagagawa ng competition.  Ironicaly ABS-CBNs shows are a big hit abroad infact number one ang mga ito sa abroad dito we watch Cable Channels naman hehehe.  Imagine sa Europe hit daw ang Marina!  lol
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Feb 25, 2005 at 12:53 PM

mr. bigboy,

local news kamo?  :o

a significant part of the local news programs in free tv
is about crime, politics & showbusiness.
remembering the difference of the treatment of news in canada & in the US
(as reported by michael moore in "fahrenheit 9/11",)
para na tayong sumusunod sa US model.
kaya tuloy nagiging praning na rin ang mga pinoy.

and thats why i think its better to read the local news than watching it on TV.
(walang pang halong dramatic voices)

moreover, both ABS & GMA news features sports, business & even
science & technology noon . ngayon (halos) ala na.
naging propaganda machines na sila ng kani-kanilang talents.
(kaya nga nagalit na ang mga managers, PAMI, sa mga networks eh)

and worse, they call it "in the service of the filipino people" o
"serbisyong totoo"?  >:(

if we start to think that the important aspect of news
is the technical side and not the content,
then were all in big trouble.

by the way,
hindi ba abs lang ang filipino channel abroad?
so its not surprising na hit ang any show ng abs sa abroad. ;)
(kaya nga number 1 kasi only one...)
i do believe the true power of abs will be known
kung magkakaroon sila ng competition abroad, di ba?

i do believe competition should make the industry better,
and not make the consumers suffer.



 

Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 25, 2005 at 02:33 PM
Exculibur,  ;D

I'm not talking about TFC here. I’m talking about shows being syndicated internationaly.  Or shows being bought directly by Foreign TV Networks to be shown and marketed to their people.  Like in Africa, Asia and Europe.  There are even clamor from some countries by NON-PINOYS to bring our artist there because of the popularity of some Pinoy programs there.  Even the movie right of Feng Shui is being sought by Brad Pitt and Jeniffer Aniston's Film Production Company from Star Cinema.  About TFC not having a competitor before, that’s true because TFC is the one who took the risk and pioneered international Pinoy TV, because of that a lot of Pinoy and even its competitor will reap the benefits of that risk TFC made.

Of course technical advancement is not the be all and end all of TV Fares, but that is one important and highly appreciated factor by TV viewers.  I’m sure if our Networks do not invest on equipment they will receive additional criticisms from you.   I guess it's a matter of seeing the glass of water as being half full or half empty.  I acknowledge the tremendous shortcomings of the TV industry but I rather appreciate the good things about it and there's a lot of good things happening to it right now infact.

As for relying more on the papers for News, that’s the biggest joke.  Papers can be a lot more bias and inaccurate than TV and in many instances that is the case.  At lease on TV you can see news unfolding before your eyes and hear it practically from the horse’s mouth.  The two has its pros and cons we can’t make a sweeping conclusion which of the two is more reliable, for one papers can’t bring us breaking news which is very important if you’re engage in speculative base businesses.

All I'm saying is we pinoy tend to be over critical to our own, we bash everything Pinoy and praise anything foreign, that’s just a general observation.  I’m not saying that you’re like that.  I also watch more foreign cable channels than Pinoy, but I do not base my judgment what to watch based on which is local and which is foreign because for me both got trashable programs and sensationalize news and in the same manner both got good points and can be appreciated in different ways.  I guess the “bakya” tag does not affect me as long as I like the program I watch them regardless where they came from.

 ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: garee on Feb 28, 2005 at 09:01 AM
A GMA Kapuso here
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Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: eRaSeR on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:00 AM
 ;D


mr. bigboy,


by the way,
hindi ba abs lang ang filipino channel abroad?
so its not surprising na hit ang any show ng abs sa abroad. ;)
(kaya nga number 1 kasi only one...)
i do believe the true power of abs will be known
kung magkakaroon sila ng competition abroad, di ba?

i do believe competition should make the industry better,
and not make the consumers suffer.



 


Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bumblebee on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:10 AM
kapuso sana ako e. kaso nawala ang probe team :'( but that's not enough reason to shift to abs ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: lite-on on Feb 28, 2005 at 10:27 AM
GMA definitely, from morning till midnight.  :)

Sana kasi mag-add ng poll yung author ng thread.  :)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Feb 28, 2005 at 03:30 PM
Charo Santos unloaded all of her ABS-CBN shares. what does this mean?
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Feb 28, 2005 at 05:57 PM
Charo Santos unloaded all of her ABS-CBN shares. what does this mean?


Well she said in a statement that she plays the Stock Market now, and if you were following the Market ABS-CBN has been performing very well in the market these past few days and think its logical to sell or unload now, given the recent bombing and rumors of more bombings to come the market is beginning to plumet again.  hehehe
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 01, 2005 at 10:18 AM
I play the stock market too. If ever Charo Santos is indeed just "playing" the stock market -- it's quite a weird move for a top executive to unload all of her stocks in a company she STILL WORKS FOR. If ABS-CBN stocks are really performing well, common sense dictates that you sell SOME of your stocks and then wait for the shares to go HIGHER. Any stock market analyst would advise that . If Charo has indeed unloaded ALL of her stocks -- well, in any other company that only means one thing -- the executive has lost confidence in the company.

Are there any people here who dabble in stocks. I'm curious as to what you guys think about this.

RMN, was Charo's move confirmed? My wife has never mentioned this topic being discussed in her internal meetings at the company.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 01, 2005 at 11:07 AM
I went to the Phisix website a while ago. I was thinking that if ABS is doing really well I should tell my father-in-law to unload his stocks too -- since he has been stuck with it since he bought it a couple of years ago at 28 pesos per share. I was so disappointed to find out that ABS stocks are not performing that well after all. After a high of 24/share last October 2004, it's only listed at 18/share today. Aside from a few market corrections, ABS shares have been plummeting since October of last year.

Sayang, I really thought my father-in-law could sell his stocks this week.  :(

http://www.pse.org.ph/html/Charts/charts.jsp?securitySymbol=ABS
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 01, 2005 at 12:16 PM
hmmm... a local martha stewart case! ehehe  ;D
better sell the shares while you're at it before it goes down!
or she has other plans to jump ship ehehe
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 01, 2005 at 05:51 PM
I went to the Phisix website a while ago. I was thinking that if ABS is doing really well I should tell my father-in-law to unload his stocks too -- since he has been stuck with it since he bought it a couple of years ago at 28 pesos per share. I was so disappointed to find out that ABS stocks are not performing that well after all. After a high of 24/share last October 2004, it's only listed at 18/share today. Aside from a few market corrections, ABS shares have been plummeting since October of last year.

Sayang, I really thought my father-in-law could sell his stocks this week.  :(

http://www.pse.org.ph/html/Charts/charts.jsp?securitySymbol=ABS

28 Pesos? Wow.  If I remember correctly ABS-CBN reached a high of 47 per share nung bago palang ito sana binenta na niya that time.    The PSE performed generally well for a couple of days before that Valentine bombing incident and ABS-CBN and it's Mother Company Benpres Holdings performed well also.   Given the fiscal crisis the uncertainty of VAT being approved and the Budget not being passed, if I am Charo I would unload all my Stocks and invest it in Real Estate or something more stable against speculative forces or wait.

The problem with the stock market is no matter how good and stable the company is performing it doesnt follow na maganda na rin automatically ang magiging value ng stocks mo, alam mo naman yan kung nag lalaro ka sa stock market diba.   Saka relative sa time frame yung sinasabing magandang performance eh di naman ibig sabihin buong taon yung icoconsider mo, a few days in the market can very well mean millions of losses or gains.  I'm surprised na hindi mo napuna na gumaganda ang takbo na Phisix before the bombing incident and had to check the website pa, anyway kanya kanya yan.  I only quoted what Charo Santos said and according to her she's playing the Market now that's why she unloaded her stocks.  Anyway when the Value goes down she can always buy back ABS-CBN stocks tumubo pa siya.

If Charo Santos is indeed moving out of ABS-CBN I don't see any reason why she can't keep her stocks or atleast some of it,  unless nasa Company Constitution yun which I doubt.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 01, 2005 at 06:00 PM
hmmm... a local martha stewart case! ehehe  ;D
better sell the shares while you're at it before it goes down!
or she has other plans to jump ship ehehe


Oo nga no. hehehe Baka makasuhan siya ng insider trading.  :)

Sigurado malaking effect pag-nagkaroon ng mass resignation ang Top executives sa ABS-CBN sa Value ng stocks nito.  Baka may alam si Charo.   
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 01, 2005 at 06:16 PM
I play the stock market too. If ever Charo Santos is indeed just "playing" the stock market -- it's quite a weird move for a top executive to unload all of her stocks in a company she STILL WORKS FOR. If ABS-CBN stocks are really performing well, common sense dictates that you sell SOME of your stocks and then wait for the shares to go HIGHER. Any stock market analyst would advise that . If Charo has indeed unloaded ALL of her stocks -- well, in any other company that only means one thing -- the executive has lost confidence in the company.

Are there any people here who dabble in stocks. I'm curious as to what you guys think about this.

RMN, was Charo's move confirmed? My wife has never mentioned this topic being discussed in her internal meetings at the company.


Yeah I agree, unless there are other factors she considered.  Or maybe she knew something that we don't.

Or maybe she unloaded all her stocks for now then will wait for the value of ABS-CBNs stock to dip drastically and then thats the time she'll buy into ABS-CBN again.  Maraming gumagawa niyan depende sa condition ng market.  Eh sa ngayon mas malamang bumagsak ang value ng stocks kesa tumaas kaya mas safe mag unload saka bumili ulit pag nag stabilize na.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 01, 2005 at 06:23 PM
Just want to share this with you guys. 

AC Nielsen Ratings: Wednesday, Feb. 23, 2005
Top Overall TV Programs in MegaManila:
1.  Save the last dance for me [2] 38.5%
2.  Extra Challenge [7] 35.7%
3.  Krystala [2] 35.5%
4.  Spirits [2] 34.1%
5.  Hiram [2] 32.6%
6.  TV Patrol world [2] 30.7%
7.  24 Oras [7] 30.5%
8.  Mulawin [7] 27.2%
9.  Stairways to heaven [7] 26.2
10. Till death do us part [2] 23.7%
11. Pilipinas Game ka na ba? [2] 23.6%
12. Full House [7] 22.5%
13. Eat Bulaga [7] 22.0%
14. Wowowee [2] 21.69%
15. Rubi [2] 21.62%
16. Search for the star in a million [2] 19.5%
17. Yes yes show [2] 19.0%
18. Nuts entertaiment [7] 18.8%
19. Daisy Siete [7] 18.4%
20. Kapamilya Cinema [2] 18.3%
21. Irene [7] 17.9%
22. Showbiz No. 1 [2] 17.6%
23. MRS [2] 16.8%
24. Homeboy [2] 16.4%
25. Saang sulok ng langit [7] 15.7%
26. Sis [7] 14.9%
27. Gate Keepers [2] 14.4%
28. Slam Dunk [7] 14.2%
29. Joy Ride [7] 13.7%
30. Dolphin Bay [7] 13.4%
31. Mission Odyssey [2] 12.4%
32. American Idol [5] 12.2%
33. Saksi [7] 8.8%
34. Jessica Soho [7] 7.7%
35. News Central [23] 7.34%
36. Special Assignment [2] 7.32%
37. Magandang Umaga Bayan [2] 5.8%
38. Insider [2] 5.4%
39. PCSO [4] 5.3%
40. Unang Hirit [7] 3.5%


Comparative Ratings AC Nielsen  
MEGA-MANILA  Wednesday, Feb. 23, 2005

ABS-CBN   Magandang Umaga Bayan   5.8%   
GMA          Unang Hirit                           3.5%

ABS-CBN   Mission Odyssey   12.4%
GMA          Anime?                  TALO

ABS-CBN   Homeboy       16.4% 
GMA          Dolphin Bay   13.4%

ABS-CBN   MRS   16.8%
GMA          Sis     14.9%

ABS-CBN   Rubi    21.62%
GMA          Irene  17.9%

ABS-CBN   Pilipinas GKNB?  23.6%
GMA          Eat Bulaga         22.0%
ABS-CBN   Wowowee         21.69% 
 
GMA          Daisy Siete                   18.4%
ABS-CBN   Kapamilya Cinema        18.3%   
GMA          Saang sulok ng langit   15.7%

ABS-CBN   Showbiz No. 1   17.6%
GMA          Joy Ride             13.7%

ABS-CBN   Gate Keepers   14.4%
GMA          Anime?             TALO

ABS-CBN   SFASIAM       19.5%
GMA          Slam Dunk    14.2%

ABS-CBN   TV Patrol World    30.7%
GMA          24 Oras               30.5%

GMA          Extra Challenge   35.7%
ABS-CBN   Krystala               35.5% 
ABS-CBN   Spirits                  34.1%

ABS-CBN   Hiram       32.6% 
GMA          Mulawin   27.2%

ABS-CBN   Save the last dance for Me   38.5%   
GMA          Full House                             22.5%
 
GMA          Stairways to heaven     26.2
ABS-CBN   Till death do us part      23.7%   

ABS-CBN   Yes yes show          19.0%   
GMA          Nuts entertaiment   18.8%
 
GMA          Saksi      8.8%
ABS-CBN   Insider   5.4%   

GMA          Jessica Soho              7.7%
ABS-CBN   Special Assignment   7.32%

Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 01, 2005 at 06:47 PM
28 Pesos? Wow.  If I remember correctly ABS-CBN reached a high of 47 per share nung bago palang ito sana binenta na niya that time.    The PSE performed generally well for a couple of days before that Valentine bombing incident and ABS-CBN and it's Mother Company Benpres Holdings performed well also.   Given the fiscal crisis the uncertainty of VAT being approved and the Budget not being past, if I am Charo I would unload all my Stocks and invest it in Real Estate or something more stable against speculative forces or wait.

You're right! Imagine, from a high of 47, my dad-in-law got to buy it at 28 and now it's at 18. Actually, the reason I posted was because I am surprised Charo, who's top management is unloading her stocks. That's unprecedented in ANY publicly listed company. You mentioned insider trading. You may be right. That's why I'm concerned.

Quote
The problem with the stock market is no matter how good and stable the company is performing it doesnt follow na maganda na rin automatically ang magiging value ng stocks mo, alam mo naman yan kung nag lalaro ka sa stock market diba.   Saka relative sa time frame yung sinasabing magandang performance eh di naman ibig sabihin buong taon yung icoconsider mo, a few days in the market can very well mean millions of losses or gains.  I'm surprised na hindi mo napuna na gumaganda ang takbo na Phisix before the bombing incident and had to check the website pa, anyway kanya kanya yan.  I only quoted what Charo Santos said and according to her she's playing the Market now that's why she unloaded her stocks.  Anyway when the Value goes down she can always buy back ABS-CBN stocks tumubo pa siya.

Well, technically, if a company is showing positive numbers, stocks are bound to go up. Stocks are a measure of public confidence in a company. Just look at CAP, even if it claims that it is not bankrupt, it has lost public confidence that's why they're in a tight fix right now. People who dabble in stocks don't look at the numbers on a day-to-day basis. There are trends to consider and historical figures that would affect the total value of shares. If you say na "hindi naman buong taon yung icoconsider mo" then you're misinformed. Just look at the GDP, GNP and the other economic indicators. it is measured relative to the previous quarter or the previous year. The same with companies too. Just read ANY year-end report and you'll see the references to the performance from the previous year.  You also mentioned the Valentine's Day bombing, if the time frame is "relative" as you said, then we wouldn't have seen any drastic changes in the stock market the day after the incident, right? But we did.

Oh, and I do know that the Phisix is doing well. I went to the Phisix website to check specifically on ABS-CBN numbers because I don't follow ABS stocks since my family do not own these stocks. I wanted to get accurate and unbiased information, you see. You mentioned that it was doing well, so I had to check it. Malay mo nga naman, it would've helped my wife's family unload their ABS stocks.

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If Charo Santos is indeed moving out of ABS-CBN I don't see any reason why she can't keep her stocks or atleast some of it,  unless nasa Company Constitution yun which I doubt.

More power to her then. I don't really care about the network wars anyway. I'm not even concerned about ratings since I don't watch these two channels. Yes, good ratings are an effective way to boost share prices but for some reason, I'm not seeing this with ABS-CBN (again, just look at the surveys you posted and how the company's stocks are performing). The bottomline though is, I'm concerned about the stocks because a lot of money is riding on these things -- not just a monthly salary.

Funny thing is, Ernie L has preserved his sense of humor when talking about ABS-CBN's poor performance in the stock market whenever he talks to my wife and her group.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on Mar 01, 2005 at 08:11 PM
I'm not talking about TFC here. I’m talking about shows being syndicated internationaly.  Or shows being bought directly by Foreign TV Networks to be shown and marketed to their people.  Like in Africa, Asia and Europe.  There are even clamor from some countries by NON-PINOYS to bring our artist there because of the popularity of some Pinoy programs there. 

that's good news mr. bigboy. more power to the pinoy artists  ;D

Even the movie right of Feng Shui is being sought by Brad Pitt and Jeniffer Aniston's Film Production Company from Star Cinema. 

i'll believe it when i see the ads from hollywood na.  ;)

About TFC not having a competitor before, that’s true because TFC is the one who took the risk and pioneered international Pinoy TV, because of that a lot of Pinoy and even its competitor will reap the benefits of that risk TFC made.

no question about it.
pero eto ang point ko:
how can ABS tell that they are better than another pinoy station
if the international viewers are not yet exposed to their competitor?
para silang nasa boxing ring declaring to everybody they are the champion
pero wala naman silang kalaban.  O0

Of course technical advancement is not the be all and end all of TV Fares, but that is one important and highly appreciated factor by TV viewers.  I’m sure if our Networks do not invest on equipment they will receive additional criticisms from you.   I guess it's a matter of seeing the glass of water as being half full or half empty.  I acknowledge the tremendous shortcomings of the TV industry but I rather appreciate the good things about it and there's a lot of good things happening to it right now infact.

again you are missing the point. i never said it was a bad decision to invest in
equipment. in fact i'm happy that they did.

what i emphasized is that, if the PRIORITY is the technical aspect RATHER THAN the content of the news, that is something to think about.

i also appreciate the good things happening in the local tv industry.
and i express that appreciation by watching those shows.

but the appreciation should not STOP us, viewers,
to EXPRESS OUR DISPLEASURE
over what we believe the tv stations are doing wrong.
(kaya nga nandyan si nestor torre eh.  ;))

As for relying more on the papers for News, that’s the biggest joke.  Papers can be a lot more bias and inaccurate than TV and in many instances that is the case.  At lease on TV you can see news unfolding before your eyes and hear it practically from the horse’s mouth.  The two has its pros and cons we can’t make a sweeping conclusion which of the two is more reliable, for one papers can’t bring us breaking news which is very important if you’re engage in speculative base businesses.

i think using a modulated voice with flashing graphics and upbeat rythms in delivering the news is a BIGGER joke. 

when it comes to witnessing the news, only live coverage will apply in your point.
otherwise, i do believe you are aware of the magic of editing. and whether you like it or not, editing can make the truth a "half truth". but of course, this will also apply to the print media.

if you’re engage in speculative base businesses, yes, live coverage is important.
but you have to remember that this is the age of the web. the gap of the delivery time in giving live feeds between tv & the web is surely becoming smaller.   ;)

by the way, in choosing between
biased "dramatized" news that overloads your senses and
"biased" written news, i'll go for the "biased" written news anytime.

All I'm saying is we pinoy tend to be over critical to our own, we bash everything Pinoy and praise anything foreign, that’s just a general observation.  I’m not saying that you’re like that. 

thanx  8)

I also watch more foreign cable channels than Pinoy, but I do not base my judgment what to watch based on which is local and which is foreign because for me both got trashable programs and sensationalize news and in the same manner both got good points and can be appreciated in different ways. 

parehas tyo ng paniniwala pag datin dito bro. cheers & peace  ;D

ps: ooops, i never called you "bakya" just to be clear.  ;)


Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:21 PM
Charo Santos, the story goes, unloaded all of her shares as soon as she reported to work after a month long vacation abroad. This move of her's, I agree, does not send a good signal to stockholders, fellow ABS-CBN employees and management. More than anything, it would appear as a vote of no confidence on the company she works for. In this post Enron/Worldcom/Tyco business environment, I believe regulators (the SEC or PSE) should look into this.

Or maybe this confirms the "insider" story that I heard... :-X
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bumblebee on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:27 PM
Charo Santos, the story goes, unloaded all of her shares as soon as she reported to work after a month long vacation abroad. This move of her's, I agree, does not send a good signal to stockholders, fellow ABS-CBN employees and management. More than anything, it would appear as a vote of no confidence on the company she works for. In this post Enron/Worldcom/Tyco business environment, I believe regulators (the SEC or PSE) should look into this.

Or maybe this confirms the "insider" story that I heard... :-X

pls share the insider story?  >:D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:31 PM
My lips are sealed... :-X In the proper time, perhaps... ;)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:33 PM
Charo Santos, the story goes, unloaded all of her shares as soon as she reported to work after a month long vacation abroad. This move of her's, I agree, does not send a good signal to stockholders, fellow ABS-CBN employees and management. More than anything, it would appear as a vote of no confidence on the company she works for. In this post Enron/Worldcom/Tyco business environment, I believe regulators (the SEC or PSE) should look into this.

Or maybe this confirms the "insider" story that I heard... :-X

Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for enlightening us RMN. I did ask my wife last night about this but surprisingly she said the subject was never mentioned during her meetings yesterday. She did say that some sort of powerplay/reorganization is going on right now in Mother Ignacia so the people there are a bit "on edge."
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Post by: indie boi on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:34 PM
My lips are sealed... :-X In the proper time, perhaps... ;)

You can always use the PM function, hehe.  ;)
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Post by: jackryan on Mar 02, 2005 at 01:54 PM
I am an "outsider" but doesn't this smells, sounds and looks like a clear example of "insider trading"  :-X
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: marty_e on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:29 PM
"That's unprecedented in ANY publicly listed company." ??? ???

Daily disclosures given by the PSE will invariably include snippets on how many Ayala Corp, BPI, Globe shares JAZA bought or sold, how many Globe shares Mr. Ablaza bought or sold, how many shares of PLDT Mr. Pangilinan bought or sold etc... This is not only PUBLIC information but a requirement to the PSE to disclose share movement of TOP management.

With the advent of shares of stock being used as part of an executive's renumeration, it is inevitable that there will be share movement. These guys have personal needs and will unload as these needs arise. Similarly, as excess funds flow in, they may buy additional shares.

I'm not disputing the fact that Ms. Santos may be prudent in off-loading her shares of stock to "dabble in the stock market" as she was quoted as saying. Should any corporate development be disclosed after the sale of shares and the news MATERIALLY impacts the company's fundamentals, then Ms. Santos may be cited for insider trading. Corporates will have compliance rules on when an exec may buy or sell shares in the market.  I agree though that this does not signal a lot of confidence in the company but heck, anyone who can read a quarterly financial report will know that ABS profit performance and audience share has been sliding does not have to be an insider to know when to bet on another horse... ;D

Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 02, 2005 at 02:58 PM
"That's unprecedented in ANY publicly listed company." ??? ???

Daily disclosures given by the PSE will invariably include snippets on how many Ayala Corp, BPI, Globe shares JAZA bought or sold, how many Globe shares Mr. Ablaza bought or sold, how many shares of PLDT Mr. Pangilinan bought or sold etc... This is not only PUBLIC information but a requirement to the PSE to disclose share movement of TOP management.

With the advent of shares of stock being used as part of an executive's renumeration, it is inevitable that there will be share movement. These guys have personal needs and will unload as these needs arise. Similarly, as excess funds flow in, they may buy additional shares.

I'm not disputing the fact that Ms. Santos may be prudent in off-loading her shares of stock to "dabble in the stock market" as she was quoted as saying. Should any corporate development be disclosed after the sale of shares and the news MATERIALLY impacts the company's fundamentals, then Ms. Santos may be cited for insider trading. Corporates will have compliance rules on when an exec may buy or sell shares in the market.  I agree though that this does not signal a lot of confidence in the company but heck, anyone who can read a quarterly financial report will know that ABS profit performance and audience share has been sliding does not have to be an insider to know when to bet on another horse... ;D


Quite true. And I agree with the points you raised -- most especially the quarterly financial reports of ABS-CBN.

Share movement of top management is usually done by exercising their stock options. But I have yet to hear a top executive unloading ALL of his or her stocks. Of course, we really wouldn't know if Ms. Santos really sold all of her ABS stocks or just sold some as part of a personal business strategy.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 02, 2005 at 04:28 PM
War in the Living Room
By Carmela Fonbuena
Newsbreak Staff Writer

ARE YOU kapuso or kapamilya?
In these days, you can’t afford to be both. Caught in the fierce battle between the two giant TV networks are the viewers who have decided to take sides. And how!

Things were less complicated then. Fans were loyal to the celebrities, not to the stations that hosted them. In the heyday of the film industry, for example, movie fans followed Nora or Vilma wherever the two went or whichever TV channel they appeared in.

Today, the mass branding of GMA-7 (Kapuso) and ABS-CBN (Kapamilya) is somehow pitting audiences against each other.

Even the rumored transfer of an ABS-CBN star to the rival GMA-7 network lands on the headlines of the Lifestyle pages and merits loud denials on prime time by the concerned TV station. And when former “kapuso” (GMA-7) teen celebrity Toni Gonzaga jumped to “kapamilya” ABS-CBN, she found herself profusely apologizing to her “kapuso” fans in—of all forums—ABS-CBN’s “The Buzz” talk show. Gonzaga had been a mainstay in GMA-7 regular programs such as its noontime show, “Eat Bulaga.”

One’s choice station has already caused heavy traffic on the Internet. Is GMA-7 the number one TV station nowadays? Bloggers are deeply divided. Read what one kapamilya has to say about the issue in www.pinoyexchange.com: “GMA-7 has no right whatsoever to say that they are the no.1 network since the surveys issued by you-know-what are UNRELIABLE and BIASED. Why do I say so? It’s because the surveys are only conducted in Metro Manila.”

This prompted a terse reply from a kapuso: “Basta KAPUSO is NO.1 sa masa SIGURO pang mayaman lang ang KAPAMILYA (SIGURO LANG).”

Discussions range from putdowns of the rival programs to the loyalties of the stations’ contract celebrities.

What’s all this branding about, anyway?

GMA-7 President Manuel Quioge told NEWSBREAK that “kapuso” was introduced in 2002 to build viewer loyalty to their station. At that time, they were gearing to compete head-on against the ratings leader ABS-CBN, which introduced “Kapamilya” in the same year.

Quioge explained: “To achieve this, we had to build an emotional relationship with the viewers. Our shows may be good, but if we don’t have their loyalty, they can always jump to the other station after that show.”

Entertainment shows began using the slogan, and because it clicked, this soon rubbed off on the news programs. GMA-7’s news anchors and reporters started using the slogan daily in their news reports. In the case of GMA-7 news anchor Mike Enriquez, he even drags the kapuso slogan into his product endorsements of, say, Astring-O-Sol mouthwash.

ABS-CBN, however, chose to tweak its brand slogan for its news programs. While kapamilya refers to the whole station, news anchors and reporters have adopted a more “global” slogan in the news: “Patrol ng Pilipino” as against GMA-7’s “Ang inyong Kapuso.”

This was followed by a noticeable change in the way reporters act in the field while breaking the news. A “kapuso” reporter would be seen hugging a typhoon victim, while a “kapamilya” reporter would be shown on TV distributing relief goods in poor communities.

There’s basically nothing wrong with a reporter showing empathy, according to journalism ethics professor Luis V. Teodoro of the University of the Philippines. “Even in print reporting, you have to adopt a certain persona in interviewing somebody to be able to get the information.”

However, it’s one thing to be sympathetic, it’s another to make a big deal out of it. “Putting reporters in the report is self-serving. It makes the reporters the focus of the event,” Teodoro said.

Last year’s media coverage of the Quezon typhoon disaster, for instance, sparked debates among practitioners because reporters were shown giving away relief goods to families.

“We saw that the people were suffering. That is why we wanted to help as individuals,” ABS-CBN reporter Jay Ruiz said. “The Quezon coverage was a special case,” he explained, in response to criticism that they went overboard.

Luis Alejandro, CEO of ABS-CBN, said: “It was being humane about it. That was not staged.”

Both ABS-CBN and GMA-7 ran a telethon on the Quezon typhoon disaster. This helped the two companies raise funds for their respective foundations.

“Beyond funding, our responsibility is to make sure that through media we continue to remind people about this program so that we can continue to have sponsors for them. Total money is close to P100 million. One sheik gave $50,000. That to me is the ultimate test of how viewers look at ABS-CBN outside of the ratings. Would you give your money to somebody you don’t trust? GMA-7 did not get that,” Alejandro said.

News organizations are certainly not banned from getting involved in civic projects. “But if it is done on air, then this leads us to the question of what the motives are. That will lead you inevitably to [the companies’] commercial interest. In the context of the ratings war, you know that it’s all about business,” Teodoro said.

In the end, there seems to be no debate on the issue of helping out during disasters. But to Teodoro, the best assistance that any news organization can provide the public still comes in the form of stories—stories “that inform people about the causes of disaster and what can be done to prevent future recurrences.”


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Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 02, 2005 at 04:32 PM
 Second best (http://partners.inq7.net/newsbreak/cover/index.php?story_id=26104)
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Post by: indie boi on Mar 02, 2005 at 08:37 PM
A very well-written article. Isn't Chai Hofilena a part of ABS-CBN?

I laud Mr. Alejandro's vision for ABS-CBN. Hopefully, he can really follow through.

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Post by: llanesmark777 on Mar 08, 2005 at 08:09 PM
SEVEN !!!
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Post by: RMN on Mar 09, 2005 at 01:12 PM
Now showing: Family feud on GMA Network
Posted: 11:17 AM | Mar. 09, 2005

Victor Agustin
Inquirer News Service

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UNRESOLVED boardroom issues between the related Gozon and Jimenez families, which could lead to another management shakeup, has prompted GMA Network Inc. to postpone indefinitely its already delayed initial public offering (IPO) of stock.

"The majority owners of the network wanted to give the public the chance to become shareholders of a company which engages in public service, through the IPO, without losing management control of the company," GMA Network said in a statement.

 
 
 
The putative P9-billion IPO offering would be on hold "until certain issues between the majority and minority shareholders are satisfactorily resolved."

Despite the corporate tone of the statement, only three individuals actually control the country's leading television network: chairman/president/CEO Felipe Gozon with his 30 percent, his brother-in-law Menardo Jimenez whom he ousted in December 2000 with another 30 percent, and former Rep. Gilberto Duavit, controlling the swing 35 percent block.

As late as September 2004, when GMA Network was on a pre-IPO publicity blitz, Gozon sounded confident that he would retain control of the network despite a plan for each bloc to divest proportionately; after all, it was on Gozon's watch that GMA Network's fortunes rose to overtake the erstwhile No. 1 moneymaker, ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp.

GMA Network, Gozon said at that time, was planning to offer about 20-30 percent of its stock, both locally and through American depository receipts.

"We will have at least 50+1 percent stake (post-IPO)," Gozon was quoted as saying. "I will not lose control of the company."

"If I were Nards Jimenez, I'd be very happy and ecstatic, because the market value of the whole company and his stocks have now doubled under my administration," he added.

Though he has kept himself inaccessible to the media, Jimenez has been heard complaining to his close friends about his sudden fall from grace.

To keep himself from moping after his ouster, Jimenez joined ABC Channel 5 owner Antonio Cojuangco Jr. and former internal revenue commissioner Dakila Fonacier to establish a network of theater-anchored strip malls in select areas nationwide. That venture has yet to meet shareholder expectations.

Although he has resigned from the GMA Network board, Jimenez, who is married to a sister of Gozon's, still wants to push through with the IPO, but apparently under certain conditions.

According to the grapevine, the two Jimenez children in the board, Laura Jimenez-Westfall and Joel Marcelo Jimenez, submitted a list of shareholder demands at the last board meeting, prompting their chairman-uncle, who was said to have been surprised by the last-minute change of mind, to suspend the listing indefinitely.

[Editor's note: INQ7.net is a joint venture of the Philippine Daily Inquirer and GMA Network Inc.]

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Post by: RMN on Mar 18, 2005 at 03:59 PM
Fellow Shareholders,

I cannot begin to explain how exciting it is to introduce to you and help you get to
know better the people who make up the ABS-CBN Family.
Many of you know us from our products. The daily soap operas on television, the live
news reports on cable, the radio commentaries as you drive to work, the movies,
magazines, and CDs that vie for your free time on weekends.
But those of us who work here know that ABS-CBN is more than the sum of these
products.

No top-rated show, no certified box-office hit, no multi-platinum record, is made
without a group of creative individuals working together, often as one team (though
sometimes agreeably not), but always passionately committed to creating the best
content they can produce.

ABS-CBN is people — youthful, dynamic, imaginative people.

On a typical day in ABS-CBN (and there are no typical days in ABS-CBN), we argue about programming directions, plan the logistics of nationwide news coverage, coordinate cross-synergy promotions, and synchronize multi-channel sales strategies.
On one end of the globe, we plan the worldwide premiere of the latest cinematic
offering of our homegrown stars; while on the other end, we try out new ring tones and downloads (perhaps the theme song and poster of the very same movie) that we hope will appeal to teenagers of all ages.

ABS-CBN is people – brilliant, aggressive, adventurous people

The best and the brightest people from all walks of life converge in ABS-CBN. Here
their energies are unbound, free to create content across all our different media
platforms, supported by the latest in technology, and guided by broadcast and
entertainment veterans who have built the industry but remain young at heart.
In the following pages, you will meet just a few of the individuals that keep ABS-CBN
fresh and full of life. (And as you will see in the financial review elsewhere in this
annual report, also keep your Company strong, profitable, and growing.)

I have often said I have the best job in the world. As you go through these pages, I
think you will know why.

We are ABS-CBN.
We are the people working for you.

EUGENIO L. LOPEZ III
Chairman and CEO
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Mar 18, 2005 at 05:47 PM
It's from the ABS-CBN financial report. Someone very, very close to me conceptualized the theme for that letter and the introduction for the report.  :) 
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on Mar 21, 2005 at 02:52 PM
It's from the ABS-CBN financial report. Someone very, very close to me conceptualized the theme for that letter and the introduction for the report.  :) 


I liked the over-all concept of their annual report for 2003 and the theme of Gabby's letter. Does this mean that CEO's never actually  write their letter to shareholders? :D
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Post by: indie boi on Mar 21, 2005 at 08:38 PM
I liked the over-all concept of their annual report for 2003 and the theme of Gabby's letter. Does this mean that CEO's never actually  write their letter to shareholders?

LOL! CEOs rarely, if ever, write anything on their own.  :)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Mar 21, 2005 at 11:34 PM
I liked the over-all concept of their annual report for 2003 and the theme of Gabby's letter. Does this mean that CEO's never actually  write their letter to shareholders?

Sa dami ng creative writers sa ABS-CBN why would Gabby bother writing that himself. lol



 
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on Apr 13, 2005 at 08:53 PM
But Gabby will have to approve the draft before he issues it. He may have added a few thoughts himself but in the end, it is still his message.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on Apr 14, 2005 at 03:16 PM
There's a group who brainstorms and then one person will make a proposal. Based on that proposal the head of the project will approve it. Only then will a draft be written. When an acceptable draft has been made it is presented to Gabby -- who approves it.
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Post by: john7 on Apr 21, 2005 at 08:33 PM
pls vote if you're kapuso or kapamilya.....
 >:D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Apr 22, 2005 at 10:53 AM
I prefer GMA over ABS-CBN.

And in less than two weeks time, GMA will invade Cebu with a barrage of entertainment activities, shows, concerts and even a fun run sports event! ABS-CBN is feeling the heat and sweating, they are suddenly forced to bring their stars and activities to Cebu the same days GMA conduct their activities!

Cebu is suddenly the biggest focus on the GMA and ABS-CBN war. Cebuanos will be proud!

And by the time the big Cebu weekend (April 29 to May 1) ends, I believe GMA will eventually overtake ABS-CBN for the Cebu market of televiewers. ABS-CBN is still number 1 in Cebu but its lead is crumbling as we speak.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 22, 2005 at 04:30 PM
Ritchie correction lang, it was ABS-CBN's idea to do a series of shows in Cebu, it was planned way ahead of GMAs.  Infact it was even announced in Cebu and Manila and it was even marketed to our local office in Cebu.  GMA as usual took the counter offensive and launch their own half-baked series of activities in Cebu. 

I agree, Cebu is now becoming the new battleground for the Network Wars, but sa totoo lang napakalakas ng hold ng ABS-CBN sa Cebu nakakahiya ang ratings ng GMA as compared to ABS-CBN sa Cebu, this is also true for the rest of the country.  Infact in other areas in the Philippines ABS-CBN rates as high as 70% against GMA's 10 percent or even lower.  Mega Manila lang ang kuha ng GMA pero mukhang di pa mag-tatagal.  By the year end kuha na ulit ng ABS-CBN ang Mega Manila hehehe. :)

Industry people naman knows wala pa talagang napapatunayan ang GMA masyado lang ang ingay nila because of their planned IPO na di natuloy.  ABS-CBN is ABS-CBN, GMA can only dream about reaching the height of ABS-CBNs success. :)
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Post by: barrid on Apr 23, 2005 at 07:57 AM
Sana magkaroon na ng GMA dito sa amin.  :)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Apr 23, 2005 at 11:02 AM
Ritchie correction lang, it was ABS-CBN's idea to do a series of shows in Cebu, it was planned way ahead of GMAs.  Infact it was even announced in Cebu and Manila and it was even marketed to our local office in Cebu.  GMA as usual took the counter offensive and launch their own half-baked series of activities in Cebu. 

I agree, Cebu is now becoming the new battleground for the Network Wars, but sa totoo lang napakalakas ng hold ng ABS-CBN sa Cebu nakakahiya ang ratings ng GMA as compared to ABS-CBN sa Cebu, this is also true for the rest of the country.  Infact in other areas in the Philippines ABS-CBN rates as high as 70% against GMA's 10 percent or even lower.  Mega Manila lang ang kuha ng GMA pero mukhang di pa mag-tatagal.  By the year end kuha na ulit ng ABS-CBN ang Mega Manila hehehe. :)

Industry people naman knows wala pa talagang napapatunayan ang GMA masyado lang ang ingay nila because of their planned IPO na di natuloy.  ABS-CBN is ABS-CBN, GMA can only dream about reaching the height of ABS-CBNs success. :)

Whatever whatever.

Still nobody's stopping me from bringing people to GMA's Cebu activities. Am I connected or part of GMA? Hell no! I'm a consumer just making choices. My friends and I will not only join the May 1 Fun Run (link http://www.igma.tv/funrun/ ), we'll be watching their shows as well. GMA's activities alone will make our trip and stay to Cebu worth the cost.
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Post by: RMN on Apr 23, 2005 at 01:11 PM
As if their organization isn't bloated already as it is, ABS-CBN appoints Laurenti Dyiogi (sp?), tv director and SCQ judge, as Vice-President for TV Production. Don't ask me what he can contribute. ::)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Apr 24, 2005 at 10:28 PM
Just want to share this:

AGB PROVINCIAL AUDIENCE SHARES
January - March 2005

BACOLOD
ABS-CBN - 90%
GMA - 4%

LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 89%
GMA - 9%

GENERAL SANTOS
ABS-CBN - 87%
GMA - 11%

NAGA
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 9%

LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 10%

ZAMBOANGA
ABS-CBN - 75%
GMA - 20%

BAGUIO
ABS-CBN - 68%
GMA - 29%

DAVAO
ABS-CBN - 63%
GMA - 17%

CAGAYAN DE ORO
ABS-CBN - 55%
GMA - 35%

CEBU
ABS-CBN - 50%
GMA - 28%

LUZON URBAN AREAS
ABS-CBN - 49%
GMA - 38%

DAGUPAN
ABS-CBN  - 37%
GMA - 27%

As of now GMA is still rating higher in Mega-Manila but not as high as what ABS-CBN is getting from the rest of the country.  If ABS-CBN management can pull their acts together, by year end mababawi nila Mega Manila. :)
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Post by: obet2 on May 10, 2005 at 12:32 PM
best sa akin ang kapamilya........ch.2      ;D :D 8)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on May 12, 2005 at 08:39 PM
Basta sa Cebu City, hindi kailangan ng ABS mag-pa Libre Sakay para "humakot" ng manonood. Wala ring libreng Lunch, pero dumog pa rin ang tao.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: viper on May 12, 2005 at 08:44 PM
Number 1 din pong Pinoy Network sa buong mundo ang ABS CBN sapagkat ito ay maaaring mapanood sa Europa, Gitnang Silangan, Australia, North America at Japan. Kailangan mo lang ng satellite dish at subscription, may TFC atbp. ka na. Malayo pa ang tatahakin ng kalaban bago nito marating ang dinaanan ng TFC. ;)


Just want to share this:

AGB PROVINCIAL AUDIENCE SHARES
January - March 2005

BACOLOD
ABS-CBN - 90%
GMA - 4%

LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 89%
GMA - 9%

GENERAL SANTOS
ABS-CBN - 87%
GMA - 11%

NAGA
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 9%

LEGAZPI
ABS-CBN - 86%
GMA - 10%

ZAMBOANGA
ABS-CBN - 75%
GMA - 20%

BAGUIO
ABS-CBN - 68%
GMA - 29%

DAVAO
ABS-CBN - 63%
GMA - 17%

CAGAYAN DE ORO
ABS-CBN - 55%
GMA - 35%

CEBU
ABS-CBN - 50%
GMA - 28%

LUZON URBAN AREAS
ABS-CBN - 49%
GMA - 38%

DAGUPAN
ABS-CBN  - 37%
GMA - 27%

As of now GMA is still rating higher in Mega-Manila but not as high as what ABS-CBN is getting from the rest of the country.  If ABS-CBN management can pull their acts together, by year end mababawi nila Mega Manila. :)
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Post by: RitchieNolasco on May 13, 2005 at 10:58 AM
From Daily Tribune

ABS-CBN plunges deeper in red with P114M Q1 loss

Lopez-controlled broadcast firm ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. suffered the worst quarter in the history of the company since it went public more than 10 years ago as it posted a net loss of P114.28 million during the first quarter of the year from a net income of P124.09 million in the same period last year.

In a media briefing, ABS-CBN said its earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) declined to P638.79 million from P873.59 million.

Total revenues, consisting of gross airtime, other broadcast- related revenues, and net sales and services declined slightly to P3.40 billion from P3.44 billion. Airtime and other broadcasting-related revenues decreased by 7 percent to P2.25 billion as Mega Manila (Metro Manila plus Cavite, Laguna, Bulacan and Rizal) Channel 2 household ratings decreased to 14 percent in the first quarter from 16 percent last year.

Other broadcast-related revenues, consisting of short message service-based revenues, decreased by 10 percent to P66 million with a decline in program promos during the quarter.

Net sales and services grew 12 percent to P1.15 billion due to the continued growth of its international unit, ABS-CBN Global. ABS-CBN Global contributed P910 million to net sales, an increase of 29 percent. Revenue growth came from an increase in subscriber base of 25 percent to 1.76 million viewers as of March 31, 2005.

Other subsidiaries' net sales and services decreased by 25 percent to P240 million due to lower revenues of ABS-CBN Films, which released only one movie (Dreamboy) in the quarter compared to two movies (Milan and Otso Otso) in the same period last year.

Operating expenses grew 11 percent to P2.95 billion from P2.67 billion. Production cost, which accounted for 44 percent of total cash expenses, increased by 15 percent to P1.04 billion. General and administrative expenses increased by 8 percent to P787 million. Cost of sales and services increased by 14 percent to P564 million, while cost margins increased slightly to 49 percent from 48 percent. Non-cash operating expenses increased by four percent to P554 million from P534 million.

According to ABS-CBN president and chief operating officer Luis Alejandro, the net loss practically caught them by surprise, although he stressed they aim to return to profitability as soon as possible.

“We were not prepared for this, and we want to return to profitability immediately,” he said.

In a memo to all ABS-CBN employees, Alejandro laid down three initiatives the company will undertake to arrest this financial skid: recover primetime ratings, optimize production costs and margins, and reduce general and administrative expenses.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 13, 2005 at 06:17 PM
Ok lang yan anyway First Quarter lang yan.  Sa tingin ko ABS-CBN would still be profitable for the whole year.  Unlike before GMA incurred loses for the whole year not only for a quarter and not only for 1 year.  At naka-ilang strike at welga ang employee ng GMA dati.  I still believe that ABS-CBN is in a much better financial position now than where GMA is before.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 13, 2005 at 09:28 PM
FMG, BALIK ABS-CBN AS CONSULTANT - MGA PAGBABAGONG MAGAGANAP  
Pilipino STAR Ngayon 05/10/2005

Pinabalik ni Mr. Gabby Lopez Jr, Chairman at CEO ng ABS-CBN ang `utak' ng kanyang kumpanya na si Mr. Freddie M. Garcia bilang consultant at umupo na ito last week lang.

Ideya ni Mr. Garcia ang pagbabalik ng phenomenal hit nilang Meteor Garden na ikinasikat ng F4 na nag-umpisa na kahapon, Lunes bago mag-TV Patrol World at sinibak ang Video Joking.

Matatandaang ang Meteor Garden ang nagpabagsak sa ilang programa ng GMA 7 two years ago at naniniwala si FMG (tawag kay Mr. Garcia) na hindi pa rin nakakalimutan ng mga Pinoy ang F4.

Samantala, sa nakaraang Mancom o Management Committee Meeting ng mga bossing ay napag-usapan ito na ibalik si Korina Sanchez sa TV Patrol World dahil mas hinahanap pa rin daw siya ng viewers dahil simula raw nung umupo si Karen Davila ay hindi na nakaangat pa ang news program ng Dos.

Dagdag pa na ang TV Patrol ang flag ship ni FMG kaya't nailing daw ito sa sinapit ng naturang programa.

In fairness, okey naman daw ang performance ng Presidente ng ABS-CBN na si Mr. Cito Alejandro lalo na sa mga empleyado nila, kaso may mga bagay pa raw itong hindi niya makapa kaya't muling kinuha si FMG.

"Iba kasi ang pinanggalingan ni Cito. Mas malaki ang ABS CBN kaysa sa mga hawak niyang ketchup product," dagdag pa ng taga-Dos.

 
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This is a very good news to all ABS-CBN Fans and Stock Holders
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: stac on May 13, 2005 at 09:46 PM
GMA Kapuso here  8) ;D :D

sa poll dito sa pinoydvd.com lamang kaming mga kapuso:

as of 9:45PM

ABS-CBN - Kapamilya   7 (33.3%)
GMA - Kapuso   14 (66.7%)
 
Total Votes: 20

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RitchieNolasco on May 14, 2005 at 01:48 PM
GMA Network posts P400-M net income in 1st qtr
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
The Philippine Star 05/14/2005


Boosted by the continued rise in its viewership ratings, GMA Network Inc. reported a 62-percent surge in its first quarter net income this year to P400 million from P246 million a year earlier.

GMA registered gross revenues of P1.9 billion, up 27 percent from P1.5 billion a year ago. This was despite the absence of political advertisements that helped pump up the broadcasting firm’s revenues last year.

Operating expenses, however, rose 12 percent to P898 million largely due to increased salaries and production costs as GMA continued to dominate the viewership ratings in mega Manila.

Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) stood at P770 million, 42 percent higher than a year ago.

Commenting on the network’s impressive performance, GMA chairman and president Felipe L. Gozon said: "I am pleased that despite the traditionally weak first quarter financial performance of the industry, we were able to generate that much profit."

GMA has managed to maintain its lead in TV ratings in all day parts, including the highly important primetime block. As of end-March this year, GMA has posted total day ratings of 19.5 percent as against its main competitor’s 14 percent, according to data from research firm AGB Philippines.

GMA launched two new "super soaps" in April and May that charged up the network’s performance in primetime TV ratings. "Darna"registered the highest rating for a pilot episode in Philippine primetime TV history while "Encantadia" has consistently posted phenomenal ratings since it began airing last May 2.

To increase its viewership, GMA is set to embark on a provincial campaign following its successful trip to Cebu recently.

Gozon said since GMA has commissioned its new antenna system in Cebu November 2004, the TV station’s signal has been very competitive with or even superior to its rival’s.

Gozon added that the network’s Cebu studio complex is also being rehabilitated. "GMA’s Cebu TV studio facility has been augmented with professional studio cameras," he said.

In Davao, GMA has completed and commissioned last January its new solid-state VHF transmitter which resulted in a much stronger signal in the area.

GMA is also preparing to construct a TV station in Bacolod City after having been granted a television frequency by the National Telecommunications Commission.

GMA has also signed an agreement with Comcast, the biggest cable operator in the US, for the carriage of GMA Pinoy TV in the United States. GMA’s international channel is now available in Japan and Guam.

The company’s subsidiary, Citynet, Inc., is currently preparing for the programming line-up for Channel 11, which would provide an additional platform for GMA Network to showcase its programs and talents.

GMA through film outfit GMA Films Inc., is likewise producing a new movie starring its young stars scheduled for showing in a few months. This would be followed by other movie projects within the year.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RitchieNolasco on May 15, 2005 at 12:31 AM
GMA Network maintains lead in overall TV ratings

GMA Network leads the competition in combined Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City total day channel ratings, based on a recent survey from Nielsen Media Philippines.

Nielsen data for April 2005 shows GMA Network posting a total day combined market TV household rating of 14 percent against ABS-CBN’s 11 percent. The same data source also shows GMA ahead of its competitor across all dayparts.

GMA registered average ratings of 7.8 percent against ABS-CBN’s 7.1 percent in the morning, 13.5 percent versus ABS-CBN’s 12.3 percent in the afternoon, and 19.9 percent against ABS-CBN’s 14.6 percent in the evening. Twelve GMA shows were listed among the top 15 programs in April.

The combined market channel ratings are based on the weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagupan City.

Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA.

A closer examination of the weighted average ratings released by ABS-CBN, however, shows that the set of weights applied in Mega Manila and the key cities approximated the percent share distribution of NSOs 2000 Urban Philippines Household Population with Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City getting much bigger weights than their actual share based on TV household populations across the combined survey areas of Nielsen.

According to GMA Network Vice President for Research Sheila Tan, a basic flaw identified in the weights applied by ABS-CBN is the fact that Dagupan City, Metro Cebu, and Davao City, on their own, can not be considered good representations of Urban Balance Luzon, Urban Visayas, and Urban Mindanao. "Previous rating surveys have shown that viewership preferences in cities even within the same region can vary to a large degree, thus, it is not safe to assume that viewership of a sample within a single city can accurately reflect the viewership of the entire Balance Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao," Tan said.

Tan also noted that another problem with applying weights based on NSO’s Population Distribution on TV ratings is the fact that NSO’s household population figures include both TV-owning and non-TV-owning households. "Due to the nature of the (TV viewership) data being generated, TV ratings surveys do not include non-TV-owning households as part of their sample, coverage, or projections. Since TV ownership levels across cities or regions vary significantly, this introduces more bias to such weighting system," Tan said.

GMA Network asked Nielsen Media Philippines to use their global standard procedure or formula when combining ratings from several areas or markets to generate the weighted ratings across the same areas presented by ABS-CBN. Nielsen generated the data via a built-in feature on weighted ratings in their multi-market TV Dynamix and the standard weighing system applied by their software was anchored on TV household populations among the markets covered.

According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively.

GMA Network countered ABS-CBNs claim that it has maintained its significant advantage over GMA across News and Public Affairs programs citing an SWS survey done March 21-29, 2004. The survey, according to GMA, is over a year old and as shown by the more recent Nielsen combined market ratings and AGB Phils. Mega Manila survey, GMAs News and Public Affairs programs have long taken the lead.
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Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 15, 2005 at 01:59 AM
ABS-CBN Beefs Up Regional Programming


For 15 years, ABS-CBN has always been the number one network in the
provincial areas especially in the Visayan and Mindanao regions. In
Cebu alone, ABS-CBN has ruled its airwaves for 15 years, making it
a "kapamilya province!"


Charo Santos-Concio, ABS-CBN's Executive Vice-President and TV-
Entertainment Head, attributes this to the strong affinity they've
built with its regional viewers in the past 15 years. She cites as an
example, the high-quality TV shows they've brought to Cebu. More than
that, they also produced local TV programs like the soap opera "For
Life" and a local version of "TV Patrol" to mention a few, that local
residents relate well to.

This is also the main reason why ABS-CBN held the very
successful "Daghang Salamat Cebu" a couple of weeks ago. As Charo
explained, it was their way of thanking the Cebuanos for their
wholehearted support and for making them an integral part of their
viewing habits.

"We've been bringing our shows to different parts of the region every
year. But this year, we have made bigger plans because we want to
give back to our audience and fans who have supported us for the past
15 years. Next will be Davao, Iloilo and Bacolod," expressed Charo.

ABS-CBN sources estimated that more than 40,000 people attended both
the live performances of "ASAP" at the Ayala Mall in Cebu and "ASAP
Fanatic" at the Plaza Independencia.

"I was very happy with the warm response of the Cebuanos. It reminded
me of my younger years when I also went on a parade for my movies
like `Julian Makabayan' and when I was in a number of Santacruzan
events," shared Charo who, with other ABS-CBN celebrities were
overwhelmed by the Cebuanos' warm appreciation.

Though "Daghang Cebu" went head on with their rival network's Cebu
celebration, Charo did not lose her optimism. She called it "the
function of competition" which for her was a healthy occurrence.

"Competition always brings out the best in all of us. We plan to be
bigger than usual. In the past year, we always bring our programs to
the provinces but the scale is not as grand than the one we are
having this summer...I think both parties are challenged to come out
with better programs for the viewers," Charo remarked.

Setting the pace for the aggressive network competition, she added
that they are beefing up their local shows in their respective
regions. Chit Guerrero has been designated to head the Regional
Production group since they plan to develop, produce and launch more
local shows like teleseryes.

As she reiterated, their success was not just pegged on the well-
produced shows they bring to the regions but more on their unwavering
relationship with the viewers and their acceptance. One such example
was "Going Bulilit's" infectious success. From Mega-Manila viewers,
it has now made its way to the Visayan and Mindanao regions. Its
success even spawned plans to produce and develop "Going Bulilit" in
different regions like Cebu.

"Lahat naman ng mga taga-probinsya katulad ko rin, ang dream
makarating sa Manila. So we want to put talent centers also in Cebu
and Davao. `Going Bulilit' is number one in these regions so we are
going to launch `Going Bulilit Cebu' and Going Bulilit Davao' because
maraming batang gustong mag-artista. Being a star now is really like
becoming a doctor or lawyer in the past. And television brought this
about, making dreams possible," she explained.

In the near future, Charo predicts that viewers will be more
selective of shows they would invest their time on to watch. This is
why their network is continuously creating shows that will be worth
their viewers' time. More than quality, they are also focusing on
content that will give their viewers added value while watching. They
have also implemented a rule not to air any indecent segments or
shows like the celebrity sex video scandals.

With this in mind, Charo plays a mother who gives tough love. Her
management style includes giving her people space to be more creative
in developing shows. But she always keeps a watchful eye on them and
tells on them immediately if she didn't like what was shown on
television.

"Kawawa naman ang mga taong nabi-biktima," she said. "Let's be guided
by the biblical phrase `What does it profit a man if he gains the
whole world but loses his soul.' What do we have to gain if we have
all the ratings in the world, but we hurt innocent people. We just
have to be guided by that value. When we started, Deo Edrinal knows
this. I already told them during `Showbiz Linggo' na huwag kaming
manakit ng kapwa!"

She added that people can just talk about how good shows can be
without maligning people. She'd rather have TV shows that inspire
people especially at a time when there's so much problems and pains
that plague Filipinos. Such show for her is Boy Abunda's "Homeboy"
which she watches regularly even while she's putting on make-up.

"It is a very engaging show for me and I really love it. I
continually learn from other people. Nakakadagdag sa aking kaalaman
at sa aking kalooban yung mga kwento and learnings ng ibang tao!"

This quarter, in its bid to come out with beautiful shows, ABS-CBN is
launching a number of primetime shows like "Ikaw Ang Lahat Sa Akin"
which stars Claudine Barretto, Diether Ocampo, Angelica Dela Cruz,
John Lloyd Cruz and Bea Alonzo, the magical fantaserye "Kampanerang
Kuba" which stars Anne Curtis, Jericho Rosales' "Panday" and Maricel
Soriano's "Vietnam Rose." After a long hiatus from television, Sharon
Cuneta will also have her own new show soon!

"There's so much poverty and problems in the world, that's why we
should always continue to inspire!"
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 15, 2005 at 02:28 AM
GMA Network maintains lead in overall TV ratings

GMA Network leads the competition in combined Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City total day channel ratings, based on a recent survey from Nielsen Media Philippines.

Nielsen data for April 2005 shows GMA Network posting a total day combined market TV household rating of 14 percent against ABS-CBN’s 11 percent. The same data source also shows GMA ahead of its competitor across all dayparts.

GMA registered average ratings of 7.8 percent against ABS-CBN’s 7.1 percent in the morning, 13.5 percent versus ABS-CBN’s 12.3 percent in the afternoon, and 19.9 percent against ABS-CBN’s 14.6 percent in the evening. Twelve GMA shows were listed among the top 15 programs in April.

The combined market channel ratings are based on the weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagupan City.

Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA.

A closer examination of the weighted average ratings released by ABS-CBN, however, shows that the set of weights applied in Mega Manila and the key cities approximated the percent share distribution of NSOs 2000 Urban Philippines Household Population with Metro Cebu, Davao City and Dagupan City getting much bigger weights than their actual share based on TV household populations across the combined survey areas of Nielsen.

According to GMA Network Vice President for Research Sheila Tan, a basic flaw identified in the weights applied by ABS-CBN is the fact that Dagupan City, Metro Cebu, and Davao City, on their own, can not be considered good representations of Urban Balance Luzon, Urban Visayas, and Urban Mindanao. "Previous rating surveys have shown that viewership preferences in cities even within the same region can vary to a large degree, thus, it is not safe to assume that viewership of a sample within a single city can accurately reflect the viewership of the entire Balance Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao," Tan said.

Tan also noted that another problem with applying weights based on NSO’s Population Distribution on TV ratings is the fact that NSO’s household population figures include both TV-owning and non-TV-owning households. "Due to the nature of the (TV viewership) data being generated, TV ratings surveys do not include non-TV-owning households as part of their sample, coverage, or projections. Since TV ownership levels across cities or regions vary significantly, this introduces more bias to such weighting system," Tan said.

GMA Network asked Nielsen Media Philippines to use their global standard procedure or formula when combining ratings from several areas or markets to generate the weighted ratings across the same areas presented by ABS-CBN. Nielsen generated the data via a built-in feature on weighted ratings in their multi-market TV Dynamix and the standard weighing system applied by their software was anchored on TV household populations among the markets covered.

According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively.

GMA Network countered ABS-CBNs claim that it has maintained its significant advantage over GMA across News and Public Affairs programs citing an SWS survey done March 21-29, 2004. The survey, according to GMA, is over a year old and as shown by the more recent Nielsen combined market ratings and AGB Phils. Mega Manila survey, GMAs News and Public Affairs programs have long taken the lead.


The FACT Remains na sa lahat ng Probinsya outside Mega-Manila lampaso ang GMA.  Kahit anong formula ang gawin ng GMA because of sour graping they cannot change the fact that all over the Philippines iisa lang ang hawak nila Mega Manila lang, the rest of the Philippines eh namamayagpag ang ABS-CBN.

Its very unfair na imarginalize ng GMA ang lahat ng probinsya.  Its like saying na bale wala ang Ratings from Cebu, Davao atbp.  They lump all the provinces together at ginawang maliit na parte lang ng Mega Manila just for ego?  lol

Kung ako ang taga Cebu at Davao at ibang probinsya maiinsulto ako niyan.  ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bumblebee on May 15, 2005 at 08:42 AM
abs produced many good shows. most of them, off-air na. they became #1.

marimar became phenomenal. abs followed. then there's tagalized cartoons. abs followed. they did not concentrate on the good shows they had.

gma produced a couple of good shows. they were a good alternative when they were #2. i particularly liked their news and current affairs.

then let go of the probe team. then they decided to go head on w/ abs.

now they both suck.

same s**t, different channel.

buti me cable.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: barrid on May 16, 2005 at 12:37 PM
Lalo ko nagustuhan ang GMA dahil sa napanood ko kanina dito sa local channel namin ng I-witness na ang theme ay Pantasya ng Bayan. Dito ko nalaman na sa ibang bansa pa nakita ang mga lumang peliculang pilipino. Bigla akong nanghinayang.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RNIverson on May 16, 2005 at 10:42 PM
kapuso  8)  although lately puro cable na. pero pag walang cable, sympre siyete  ;)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on May 19, 2005 at 07:04 PM

The FACT Remains na sa lahat ng Probinsya outside Mega-Manila lampaso ang GMA.  Kahit anong formula ang gawin ng GMA because of sour graping they cannot change the fact that all over the Philippines iisa lang ang hawak nila Mega Manila lang, the rest of the Philippines eh namamayagpag ang ABS-CBN.

Its very unfair na imarginalize ng GMA ang lahat ng probinsya.  Its like saying na bale wala ang Ratings from Cebu, Davao atbp.  They lump all the provinces together at ginawang maliit na parte lang ng Mega Manila just for ego?  lol

Kung ako ang taga Cebu at Davao at ibang probinsya maiinsulto ako niyan.  ;D

mr big boy,

if you review the few last paragraphs that you quoted,
the ratings were re-computed by nielsen, not gma. 
gma only requested that nielsen clarify its data/findings
by using a different framework.

mapunta tayo sa financial performance...
if we will look at the 1st quarter earnings of both stations,
mukhang lamang din ang gma (400 M) as compared to a loss for abs.

with regards to venturing into new markets
gma is will be entering the international airwaves.
whether abs likes it or not, kakain ng market share ang gma pinoy tv
kahit maliit man iyon.

this network battle that is becoming more interesting...  ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 20, 2005 at 04:08 PM
mr big boy,

if you review the few last paragraphs that you quoted,
the ratings were re-computed by nielsen, not gma. 
gma only requested that nielsen clarify its data/findings
by using a different framework.

mapunta tayo sa financial performance...
if we will look at the 1st quarter earnings of both stations,
mukhang lamang din ang gma (400 M) as compared to a loss for abs.

with regards to venturing into new markets
gma is will be entering the international airwaves.
whether abs likes it or not, kakain ng market share ang gma pinoy tv
kahit maliit man iyon.

this network battle that is becoming more interesting...  ;D

Excalibur,

That is precisely the point, it was not AC Nielsen who initiated the computation it was requested by a CLIENT.  Of course Nielsen like any other business entity will do practically anything to please a client.

Nationwide ratings or survey for TV Networks are not normaly done for a lot of various reasons.  One of them is because the countryside and provincial Rating methodology and technology is not fully developed yet Nationwide.  Sa madaling salita hindi mo pa makukuha lahat ng Ratings sa lahat ng probinsya ng mabuti to represent a true Nationwide Ratings.  If this is the case it would be Grossly unfair to claim or indirectly project na number one na Nationwide ang GMA based on a few provinces.  It would be misleading.  Do you see my point?   

People with inefficient comprehension mare being misled into believing that GMA is nubmer one in Cebu, Davao and Dagupan and Nationwide when infact kulelat sila sa lahat ng Ratings na available Nationwide outside Mega Manila.  This is what GMA is trying to exploit.

Publicist can very well see how GMA manipulates the Data to project that they are leading not only in Mega Manila but in the entire Philippines , which is not the case naman.  Besides how can you lump up the different provinces into one rating when infact they have different localized programings.  Lalo na kung hindi pa naka satellite.  Example ang Meteor Garden hindi pinalalabas sa Cebu at Davao in the same timeslot.  At may mga local programings ang ibang provinces.  So how can you combine the ratings then?  Misleading yan.

Kaya nga ang survey and research companies don't lump the ratings together.  Cebu is Cebu.  Davao is Davao hindi pwedeng kainin ng Mega Manila ang dalwang ito.  Another factor is not all consumer products that are being advertised are available nationwide some are only available in Mega Manila and some are only available in Cebu or Davao.

So you see its obvious naman why GMA is the only station who requested this kind of deceptive method na hindi commonly pinapractice ng research companies for Broadcasting Ratings.  The prudent way of doing it, is to get all the Broadcast Company to accept a common Formula.  This is GMAs formula so obviously BIAS.

It all boils down to one thing, Deception.  ;D

About financial performance, importante talaga ang Net Revenues pero makikita mo ang cash flow ng isang Company sa Gross Income rin.  When it comes to Gross Revenues malaking malaki ang lamang ng  ABS-CBN, they could cut expenses instantly and improve their Net Income.

Gross Income for First Quarter of 2005
ABS-CBN - 3.4 BILLION
GMA - 1.9 BILLION

Kaya nga kaming mga Stock Holders ng ABS-CBN can still hope that the company can get out of the red before the year ends.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bumblebee on May 20, 2005 at 04:20 PM
Gross Income for First Quarter of 2005
ABS-CBN - 3.4 BILLION
GMA - 1.9 BILLION

what's the net income?
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 20, 2005 at 04:26 PM
Lopez: 'We've had a rude awakening'


ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. looks forward to ending the year in the black despite the net loss it recorded in the first quarter, the network's chairman and CEO Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez III said Thursday.

"We hope to recover. We are now focusing on (reducing) our costs," Lopez III told reporters following the annual stockholders meeting of the country's largest broadcasting network.

ABS-CBN reported a net loss of P114.3 million for the first quarter, compared to the P124.1 million net profit it posted for the same period last year.

Interviewed by Ricky Carandang of the ABS-CBN News Channel (ANC) after the stockholders meeting, Lopez said cost-cutting would offset a projected decline in advertising income, as a result of a marked slowdown in the Philippine economy.

* * *

Ricky Carandang: Well, our first quarter was not one of our best performances. Did they (stockholders) ask you about that and what was the answer?

Eugenio Lopez III: Well, they did, Ricky, and, of course, we were very disappointed on how we did the first quarter and there's a clear focus now on looking at the major levers of our cost and finding ways to bring that cost down.

As you know, this year is a going to be a very tough year for us, Ricky, and I think I speak for most of the businessmen of our country, the economy looks like that there is a significant slowdown and if you touch base with our major advertisers around the country, there's a clear sign that the spending is going to slow down because the consumption is simply not there.

Given this kind of bleak scenario in the next nine months, the focus has to be on managing our costs and that's where we are going to focus on.

I was watching the early part of the stockholders meeting and you were saying that, well, Mr. (ABS-CBN president Luis "Cito") Alejandro was saying revenues grew. There was actually some growth in the revenues but it was outpaced by growth in expenses, which I think is going by about 16 percent, compared to the eight percent of revenues. Are expenses going up because we are putting more into production to get back the market share?

Yes, and in the situation where you basically have a two-station game, there's only so much that you can do in terms of driving up your costs and that elasticity simply isn't there. So it's a recognition of the dynamics of play in the advertising economy that has led us to really now take a look at what are those major costs.  And I think, if I can speak frankly, I think our success all these years has really masked a lot of the erosion that is occurring within the organization and today, there is a very hard-nosed look at what are those corrosive elements in our cost infrastructure and what can we do to bring that down. Having said that, there's a lot of low-hanging fruit and we can fix all of these things and today there is the political will to fix all these problems.

I understand also that there is a three-point plan for recovery.  Tell us a little bit about this.

Well, I think, you know, and that goes to the heart of what (ABS-CBN) is, you know, we're really a content company and so there are going to be a lot of new programs. We are very excited about some of the programs and if I can speak to just one of them, "Big Brother" or "Kuya" will be launching within the next couple of months.

We are actually building a house across the street and this house will be where 12 men and women will live for the next hundred days.  This show, which is a program that's run around the world in 31 countries called "Big Brother," has been a major rating success even from countries like the Netherlands and Germany and parts of the Middle East to South America and places like Mexico.

So this takes the reality genre a step further and the technology transfer that will occur here will enable us to produce many different reality genres in the near future so we're quite excited about the prospect of this becoming a very significant part of what were going to be doing now and in going forward.

Reality TV is such a big thing in the United States in particular and seems to be a growing trend in TV markets all over the world. Are we making a major investment in reality TV as where entertainment is going to go?

Yes, we are going to and "Big Brother" is going to be our first effort at this. I think the people that did "Big Brother" know reality shows. They have a technology and a process of doing it that we can learn from and that we can use then to spill over into many different types of reality shows. Studio 23, which is really our youth market, is going to be a major recipient and beneficiary of this type of show.

One of the things about reality TV is since so many people are watching now, it's good for the revenues and brings in the ads but its also relatively lower cost sort of program.

That's correct so its perfect for what are we trying to do, which is manage our cost but, you know, deliver the revenues.

I was talking to Mr. Cito Alejandro and you before the stockholders meeting began and he did say that there does seem to be a bit of recovery as far as viewership is concerned. We're sort of narrowing the gap between us and our major competitor. Is that something that you feel is sustainable?

Oh, yes, I think so, and as Cito had mentioned, we've been able to stabilize our noontime ratings and our moves on prime time has been very good. Slowly but surely, the audience is coming back to us and the competitive climate means that the tenure of each of these programs are shorter and shorter. We have the stable of stars that will enable us to continually change and provide diversity for our viewers so we're quite excited going forward. We are capable of bringing back and regaining our dominance in terms of prime time ratings for Mega Manila although we've never lost it in the provincial arena.

This is quite a difficult question but I'm sure it's asked of you by a lot of the analysts and the reporters: When do you expect to see the benefits of all these things we're putting in place?

Well, of course, you know, I am the CEO of the company and so I'd like to see it tomorrow. But the reality is we have to focus on fixing the problems we have in our organization, looking at the process and finding ways to improve that process and coming out with good shows. At the end of the day, people watch programs and I think we're going to keep at it until we find the right combination of programs on prime time to do it. We have the people, the experience, the wherewithal to do it.

We've had a rude awakening and in my view, in a way it's good that it's happened to us because it's forcing us to take a hard look at the various processes that we have in our organization. And I have no doubt Cito and I will find ways to bring us back.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on May 21, 2005 at 02:31 PM

Excalibur,

That is precisely the point, it was not AC Nielsen who initiated the computation it was requested by a CLIENT.  Of course Nielsen like any other business entity will do practically anything to please a client.

Kung may duda na ang abs sa objectivity ng nielsen (dahil client ang gma), eh di hindi na nila dapat gamitin ang figures na nirerelease ng nielsen.   ;)

Pero kung number 1 sila according sa nielsen, bakit naniniwala sila?


Nationwide ratings or survey for TV Networks are not normaly done for a lot of various reasons.  One of them is because the countryside and provincial Rating methodology and technology is not fully developed yet Nationwide.  Sa madaling salita hindi mo pa makukuha lahat ng Ratings sa lahat ng probinsya ng mabuti to represent a true Nationwide Ratings.  If this is the case it would be Grossly unfair to claim or indirectly project na number one na Nationwide ang GMA based on a few provinces.  It would be misleading.  Do you see my point?   

Good Point. Kung hindi available ang ratings sa lahat ng provinces dahil hindi pa ito fully developed, bakit nagcompute ang abs ng over-all rating using some of the NSO figures re:population data using a few provinces? Hindi ba misleading din iyon? ;)


People with inefficient comprehension mare being misled into believing that GMA is number one in Cebu, Davao and Dagupan and Nationwide when infact kulelat sila sa lahat ng Ratings na available Nationwide outside Mega Manila.  This is what GMA is trying to exploit.

Abs cbn was the first one to release the over-all rating. gma only responded and questioned the process how abs arrived at the figures. questioning and presenting an alternative figure is not necessarily exploiting. nasa tao na iyan kung anong figure at proseso ang gusto nilang paniwalaan.  ;)



Publicist can very well see how GMA manipulates the Data to project that they are leading not only in Mega Manila but in the entire Philippines , which is not the case naman.  Besides how can you lump up the different provinces into one rating when infact they have different localized programings.  Lalo na kung hindi pa naka satellite.  Example ang Meteor Garden hindi pinalalabas sa Cebu at Davao in the same timeslot.  At may mga local programings ang ibang provinces.  So how can you combine the ratings then?  Misleading yan.

Misleading din ang ginawa ng abs cbn.

Kasi, they used the NSO figures for the entire population per area when in fact the proper figure should be the number of households owning a television per province/city/municipality (ginamit nilang figure ay hindi para sa target population).  Itanong mo iyan kahit sa kaninong matinong researcher o statistician.


Kaya nga ang survey and research companies don't lump the ratings together.  Cebu is Cebu.  Davao is Davao hindi pwedeng kainin ng Mega Manila ang dalwang ito.  Another factor is not all consumer products that are being advertised are available nationwide some are only available in Mega Manila and some are only available in Cebu or Davao.

So you see its obvious naman why GMA is the only station who requested this kind of deceptive method na hindi commonly pinapractice ng research companies for Broadcasting Ratings.  The prudent way of doing it, is to get all the Broadcast Company to accept a common Formula.  This is GMAs formula so obviously BIAS.

It all boils down to one thing, Deception.  ;D

Abs cbn was the first one who came up with the over-all rating.
abs cbn ay may sariling formula for the over-all rating.
at sabi mo, ganun din ang gma.

Using your arguments, ang ibig bang sabihin ay parehas nilang dinedeceive ang public? kasi they both released an over all rating at sabi mo, ratings should not be "lumped together".

By the way, can you mathematically prove na bias ang formula ng gma/nielsen?
(According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively)
To objectively say that a formula is bias, dapat may proof. Kung wala, then it is purely speculation o opinion. ;D

bumblebee,

net income ng 2004:
gma 1.5 billion pesos
abs cbn 758 million pesos

net income q1 2005:
gma 400.5 million (profit)
abs cbn -114.3 million (loss)

additional news on the ongoing network wars:
http://news.yehey.com/news3.asp?c=12&i=86189
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: badjepoy on May 22, 2005 at 03:19 PM
kung meron lang GMA 7 dito sa california matagal na kong nagpasubscribe

yung reception ng GMA thru cable sobrang labo napuputol pa palagi ang broadcast

nakakasawa na ang channel 2 nababaduyan na ko sa mga gimmick nila

but now i still have to stick with them for a while
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2005 at 03:50 PM
Kung may duda na ang abs sa objectivity ng nielsen (dahil client ang gma), eh di hindi na nila dapat gamitin ang figures na nirerelease ng nielsen.   ;)

Pero kung number 1 sila according sa nielsen, bakit naniniwala sila?


Huh? Who said about ABS-CBN being duda sa AC Nielsen?  I was just saying na AC Nielsen heed to the request of GMA kasi client.  The computation was not initiated by Nielsen.  So on that alone bias na kasi GMA ang humingi ng ganun computation.



Good Point. Kung hindi available ang ratings sa lahat ng provinces dahil hindi pa ito fully developed, bakit nagcompute ang abs ng over-all rating using some of the NSO figures re:population data using a few provinces? Hindi ba misleading din iyon? ;)

Abs cbn was the first one to release the over-all rating. gma only responded and questioned the process how abs arrived at the figures. questioning and presenting an alternative figure is not necessarily exploiting. nasa tao na iyan kung anong figure at proseso ang gusto nilang paniwalaan.  ;)

Misleading din ang ginawa ng abs cbn.


Another BIG HUH???  Excuse me?  Where did you see that?  I havent seen ABS-CBN publicly releasing ads na Number 1 sila Nationwide.  Kung may ad na lumabas na ganito please point it out when and where.  In contrast GMA is in full blast on their PR deception.  They put an Ad on almost all the dailies, tabloid man o broadsheet.  Pati internet this is all over, I'm sure you havent miss all those PR works.  Sa ABS-CBN saan???  Please point it out kahit isang Ad lang sa dyaryo nung sinasabi mo.  ;D


Kasi, they used the NSO figures for the entire population per area when in fact the proper figure should be the number of households owning a television per province/city/municipality (ginamit nilang figure ay hindi para sa target population).  Itanong mo iyan kahit sa kaninong matinong researcher o statistician.

Abs cbn was the first one who came up with the over-all rating.
abs cbn ay may sariling formula for the over-all rating.
at sabi mo, ganun din ang gma.

Using your arguments, ang ibig bang sabihin ay parehas nilang dinedeceive ang public? kasi they both released an over all rating at sabi mo, ratings should not be "lumped together".


Again where are these ABS-CBN ads you are talking about?  Can you even point atleast one Ad (PUBLIC announcement) regarding this from ABS-CBN.  Sa GMA lahat na yata ng Dyaryo lumabas pati sa Internet at TV.  Sa ABS-CBN saan?  I have seen the provincial ratings thru our office pero walang sum yun.


By the way, can you mathematically prove na bias ang formula ng gma/nielsen?
(According to Nielsen, Mega Manila accounted for 87 percent of the total TV household population in areas covered by their surveys, while Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City accounted for 6 percent, 6 percent, and 1 percent, respectively)
To objectively say that a formula is bias, dapat may proof. Kung wala, then it is purely speculation o opinion. ;D

bumblebee,


Does Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City plus Mega Manila makes the whole Philippines kung hindi eh why did they even lump these provinces together and projected they are leading Nationwide by virtue of the sum of FOUR Cities thats HILARIOUS!  And thats not bias?  LOL

I think I'm being objective (being an advertising person) when I say, that all Ads tends to be overly bias.  But there are still ethics and rules.   Hindi pwede ang outright deception like what GMA is doing.  Four cities lang pala ang buong Philippines. lol


  :)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 22, 2005 at 03:52 PM
METRO MANILA: NOT THE ENTIRE PHILIPPINES
Metro Manila does not represent 86% of the viewing Filipino public. Any study claiming the otherwise is unscrupulous and lacks a semblance of integrity and accuracy.

The mere fact that TV commercials are heavily concentrated in Metro Manila is not an enough basis to conclude that Metro Manila represents more than half of the viewing public. If it is true that AC NEILSEN considers this as a fact, then, with more reasons to doubt the integrity of their surveys, as they are employing incorrect research standards.

AC NEILSEN is an international research-marketing company utilizing international standards. However, certain international standards are not applicable to our setting, as the Philippines is a highly diverse country.

Neither Metro Manila represents Cebu nor Cebu represents Metro Manila. The same thing goes with the other areas. This is attributable to the fact that each region in the country does have its own unique culture, beliefs, and traits. In order to arrive at a correct conclusion, an analysis and a comparison of all the regions should be made.

Thus, even if ABS-CBN’s closest competitor, GMA, leads in Mega Manila, the latter still could not claim that it is now the country’s leading network, the fact being that GMA failed to maintain the same status on the rest of the areas in the Philippines. To claim as such would be a total lie to the true sense of the word.

Acceding to the fact that television sets are highly available in the urban areas and that Metro Manila is a 100% urban area, still it isn’t safe to conclude that Metro Manila is representative of the whole country. Aside from Metro Manila, it must be pointed out that there are other areas in the Philippines considered as highly urbanized.

 

In the year 2000, 16 provinces in the Philippines have been considered as highly urbanized.

Source: NSO, 2000 Census of Population and Housing

Provinces with More Than 50 Percent Urban Population: 2000

  1            Rizal                     95.79
  2            Cavite                   86.81
  3            Laguna                  83.49
  4            Bulacan                77.80
  5            Pampanga             67.43
  6            Benguet                64.49
  7            Cebu                     63.43
  8            Bataan                  59.72
  9            Zambales              56.92
  10          Misamis Oriental    53.36
  11          Pangasinan           52.41

According to the N.S.O., in Luzon, aside from Metro Manila, there are four other cities considered to be entirely urbanized, these are Baguio City, Angeles City, Olongapo City, and Lucena City. In Visayas, Ilo-lo City, Bacolod City, Cebu City and Mandaue City are considered to be entirely urbanized. In Mindanao, Cagayan de Oro City, Marawe City and Cotobato City are also considered to be 100% urbanized.

These facts, GMA 7, in proclaiming itself to be the country’s leading network, has failed to consider.

The country’s second leading broadcasting network, GMA 7, although leading in Metro Manila is but second as to the rests of the places in the entire country. How could GMA now claim that it is the Philippine’s no.1 network when in all other urban areas and in the rest of the rural areas in the Philippines, it is still ABS-CBN who maintains the lead?

In the entire country, it is only ABS-CBN who is enjoying a wide-range of popularity. No doubt, ABS-CBN is the Philippine’s largest and No.1 broadcasting network.

Heavy Concentration of TV Commercials in Metro Manila

The heavy concentration of TV commercials in Metro Manila is not attributable to the claim that Metro Manila shares more than 50% of the entire viewing public. This conclusion of GMA is incorrect and self serving.

The heavy concentration of TV commercials in Metro Manila could be attributed to the fact that Metro Manila is the country’s capital. All business establishments are placed here. Restaurants, bars, movie houses, car shops, and a lot more are all around the metropolis. Thus, it is but logical for the businessmen to concentrate their advertisements where the market is.

More so, most of the businesses in the provinces do not need commercial advertisements, or even if so, it wouldn’t be cost effective.

Factories, fishponds, poultries, farms, and the likes do not need commercial advertisements. A different type of marketing strategy is employed in these types of businesses.

Also, Jollibee and Mc Donalds need not place many advertisements in the provinces as the competition is not as tough as compared here. Place a Jollibee establishment is San Fernando, Pampanga, for sure they would not be needing TV ads much as they need it here in Metro Manila. To do so would be senseless and would just be a waste of money, as it is not needed.

Besides, most of the celebrity endorsers here in Metro Manila are ABS-CBN talents. Ha ha.. what do you think this fact implies now?
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RMN on May 26, 2005 at 05:10 PM
Victor Agustin
Inquirer News Service


HEMORRHAGING ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. is readying an across-the-board early retirement program to slash by at least one-fourth the manpower complement of the country's biggest radio-TV network, according to the industry grapevine.

A two months' salary for every year of service package looms as the ballpark incentive figure for the targeted "retireables", but ABS-CBN spokeswoman Maloli Manalastas was quick to caution that the executive committee was still a month away from submitting any package for board approval.

ABS-CBN, which suffered this year its first-ever first-quarter net loss of more than P114 million since its 1992 public listing, had 4,262 employees and talents as of end-2004, as against GMA Network Inc.'s 2,370.

The leaner and meaner GMA Network saw its first-quarter net income zoom to P400 million, from P246 million in the same period last year.

Faced by rising operating expenses and flat revenues, ABS-CBN this year factored in no bonuses for its new chief executive officer, Luis Alejandro, and four other top officers.

Still, the combined 2005 salary of Alejandro and company is estimated at P63.77 million, as against the P60.17 million (plus P15.04 million in bonuses) in 2004 and P58.29 million (plus P16.6 million in bonuses) in 2003.

Also for the first time, ABS-CBN officers from the rank of manager and higher have been told to expect no bonuses this year as well.

The industry lore is that ABS-CBN, which has one executive vice president, seven senior vice presidents and 19 vice presidents, is one top-heavy organization as compared to GMA Network, which has four senior vice presidents but also a number of presidents running its subsidiaries.

GMA Network board member Joel Marcelo Jimenez said the network has "competitive" executive compensation package but it is the quality of the programming that makes or breaks a network.

And of the 15 top TV programs monitored nationwide in April, 12 belonged to GMA Network.
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Post by: Asktig on May 26, 2005 at 06:10 PM
Actually I was once a pure "kapamilya" viewer, pero last mid-year I decided to switch to "kapuso". why u ask? kasi di na ako masaya sa mga shows ng kapamilya.  And now I'm much happier with "kapuso"... Pansin ko lang parang laging madilim/gloomy ang broadcast ng abs-cbn, parang laging kulang sa lighting yung mga sitcoms nila. Compared sa gma which is more brighter kaya cguro ako napalipat.  Di na lalabo ang mata ko. Hehe!  ;D
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: indie boi on May 26, 2005 at 07:59 PM
People keep saying they're "kapuso" or "kapamilya". I wonder though -- is there really such a thing as "station loyalty"? Does this mean you don't watch ANY programs from a particular station if you've "allied" yourself with its rival? Isn't the regular viewing habit to watch a show that holds your interest regardless of the TV channel?
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bumblebee on May 26, 2005 at 09:22 PM
People keep saying they're "kapuso" or "kapamilya". I wonder though -- is there really such a thing as "station loyalty"? Does this mean you don't watch ANY programs from a particular station if you've "allied" yourself with its rival? Isn't the regular viewing habit to watch a show that holds your interest regardless of the TV channel?

ganito na talaga ngayon. wowowee loyals will never switch to eat bulaga, no matter how bad that show is. and it doesn't end there. it's not the stars that make a station anymore. it's the other way around. what do you think will happen to juday if she decides to go to 7? your guess is as good as mine.

there is danger here. stations will just produce shows just for the heck of it. who cares about bad shows when it's rating anyway? this station loyalty is slowly becoming a religion. and the big players are the gods.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 27, 2005 at 02:16 AM
People keep saying they're "kapuso" or "kapamilya". I wonder though -- is there really such a thing as "station loyalty"? Does this mean you don't watch ANY programs from a particular station if you've "allied" yourself with its rival? Isn't the regular viewing habit to watch a show that holds your interest regardless of the TV channel?

This is all about branding.  Every product or company tries to build a loyal and solid costumer base, both Network succeeded doing just that.  This is one reason why companies support or give to certain causes, to build goodwill for their brand.  Pero what sets ABS-CBN and GMA apart is, these two companies are showbiz based.  Pinoy are the most "showbiz" people siguro in the whole world that's why it generated so much fanaticism.  It's like Nora and Vilma rivalry all over again, this time it's 2 different brands.  This Network loyalty was made even stronger by branding it with sentimental moniker like "Kapamilya" & "Kapuso".  Some went as far as erasing certain channels on their TV sets, yes OA yun. 

As for me I'm more interested in the business and technical side of this Network War.  It's like the marketing and branding war Coke and Pepsi wage against each other.  Siyempre my bet is ABS-CBN kahit na I only watch a handful of local shows.  hehehe.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: JanMike on May 27, 2005 at 02:39 PM
As for me I'm more interested in the business and technical side of this Network War.  It's like the marketing and branding war Coke and Pepsi wage against each other.  Siyempre my bet is ABS-CBN kahit na I only watch a handful of local shows.  hehehe.

I think for the business side, it's GMA who's ahead right now. They have been posting increasing net profits as opposed to the constant net losses of ABS-CBN. Right now, GMA is more stable and seems to be in a better direction. This success of GMS in recent years has even led SMART chairman Manny Pangilinan to want to buy GMA7. May mga directors lang that are not amenable to that right now. I think that has something to do with the MVP's plan to converge the telecoms and television platform. This is a brilliant move. If this happens, maiiwan ang ABS-CBN.   

As for the technical side, I think ahead and ABS-CBN as they are able to reach farther locations. But, GMA is not far behind.

At the end of the day, it's GMA who been able to make sound decisions and partnerships. The Lopez group has quite a number of bad investments that some of the income gaine dby ABS-CBN is used to offset the losses. Too bad!
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on May 29, 2005 at 08:28 PM
Hi mr big boy,

Nice arguments  ;D Eto ang reply ko:

Huh? Who said about ABS-CBN being duda sa AC Nielsen?  I was just saying na AC Nielsen heed to the request of GMA kasi client.

Walang nagsabi na abs ay duda sa results ng nielsen. That’s why if you carefully read my response, ang sinabi ko ay “KUNG”. It’s a hypothetical question/situation ;)

The computation was not initiated by Nielsen.  So on that alone bias na kasi GMA ang humingi ng ganun computation.

Do you imply na if the client asks for a re-computation, biased agad iyon?
Or, does asking for a computation based on a different framework would automatically imply biasness? Yes or No?

Another BIG HUH???  Excuse me?  Where did you see that?  I havent seen ABS-CBN publicly releasing ads na Number 1 sila Nationwide.  Kung may ad na lumabas na ganito please point it out when and where.  In contrast GMA is in full blast on their PR deception.  They put an Ad on almost all the dailies, tabloid man o broadsheet.  Pati internet this is all over, I'm sure you havent miss all those PR works.  Sa ABS-CBN saan???  Please point it out kahit isang Ad lang sa dyaryo nung sinasabi mo.  ;D

Teka, teka., teka. I never used the term ADS in my recent response to you.

Eniway, ganito ang approach ko:

Remember the news item posted by Ritchie Nolasco?
“…Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA…”

Since it was released last April 20, siguro naman, if there was a denial of abs stating that they did not release such figures ay makikita agad natin. But I never saw any denial by abs. (Madali lang naman mag deny di ba?) Kung may nakita ka na denial, please share it with us.

Again where are these ABS-CBN ads you are talking about?  Can you even point atleast one Ad (PUBLIC announcement) regarding this from ABS-CBN.  Sa GMA lahat na yata ng Dyaryo lumabas pati sa Internet at TV.  Sa ABS-CBN saan?  I have seen the provincial ratings thru our office pero walang sum yun.

Again, if you carefully read my response, I never used the term ADS. So I don’t need to point an ad about abs cbn.  ;D

I used the term over-all rating. And I based my statement about the over-all rating (released by abs) on the article posted by Ritchie Nolasco. At iyun ay quinote mo rin.

Does Metro Cebu, Davao City, and Dagu-pan City plus Mega Manila makes the whole Philippines kung hindi eh why did they even lump these provinces together and projected they are leading Nationwide by virtue of the sum of FOUR Cities thats HILARIOUS!  And thats not bias?  LOL

Actually, its not hilarious. It is feasible. According to survey designs and operations, due to the factor of limited time & financial resources available, you can actually select a (small) SAMPLE that can represent the whole country. Therefore, it is mathematically possible to obtain a sample containing only Mega-Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao and Dagupan because they are elements on the sample space of the Philippines.

To say that a sample selected is bias(ed) needs proof. Since sinabi mo na bias ito, please show your mathematical proof na bias nga ang sample na ito.

Again, as long as you cannot MATHEMATICALLY prove na bias ang sample selection at ang formula ng nielsen, I think you are basing your arguments on speculation.

… Hindi pwede ang outright deception like what GMA is doing.  Four cities lang pala ang buong Philippines. Lol

Additional explanation:
Paano mo nasabi na masarap ang coke? Tumikim ka lang ng isa o dalawang bote, pwede na, di ba? At maniniwala ka na sa conclusion mo with just a few bottles, right?

Ang tanong ko: kailangan mo bang inumin ang lahat ng bote ng coke sa pilipinas para masabi mo na masarap ang coke? Siguro naman hindi praktikal iyun. Ganoon din ang surveys. If you think that four cities is not enough, then conducting a survey na covered ang mas maraming area is a good idea. hindi nga lang praktikal.  ;)

Eto ang crucial factor: Sino ang magfufund ng survey? At hanggang kelan? Willing kaya ang abs? I hope they would. Sila ang dapat mag-negate sa computations ng nielsen na nirequest ng gma. As long as hindi nag-iissue ng public apology ang nielsen regarding their computation of the over-all rating, it is up to abs to dispute it in an academic manner.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on May 30, 2005 at 12:06 AM
Hi Excalibur, you have some good points but, this is how I see it:

Walang nagsabi na abs ay duda sa results ng nielsen. That’s why if you carefully read my response, ang sinabi ko ay “KUNG”. It’s a hypothetical question/situation ;)
Hehehe meron ngang "kung" but you implied it just the same.   Making a point like that is argumentative, so, that in turn implies I made an opposite argument and saying I did not, make your "duda" statement totally pointless.  Then why say it at all?   
;D

Do you imply na if the client asks for a re-computation, biased agad iyon?
Or, does asking for a computation based on a different framework would automatically imply biasness? Yes or No?
Yes of course, definitely.  By the very nature of the request it makes it biased in favor of GMA.  Would they make a formulation or request a computation that would be disadvantageous to them?  Every statistician knows that statistical data can easily be slanted.  That's why formulas and computations must be agreed upon by all parties involved to make it aceptable.  Out of 6 VHF Networks and 7 UHF Stations, how many approved the formula?  How many of them initiated the Nationwide computation which is not NORMALY PRACTICED?   OBVIOUSLY that computatin is not a standard practice in the industry.  Do I need to say more?
 ;)

Teka, teka., teka. I never used the term ADS in my recent response to you.

Eniway, ganito ang approach ko:

Remember the news item posted by Ritchie Nolasco?
“…Last April 20, GMA’s closest rival, ABS-CBN, released several charts and tables to media containing ratings data based on weighted averages of Nielsen ratings in Mega Manila and key cities. The data presented by ABS-CBN showed they were ahead of GMA…”

Since it was released last April 20, siguro naman, if there was a denial of abs stating that they did not release such figures ay makikita agad natin. But I never saw any denial by abs. (Madali lang naman mag deny di ba?) Kung may nakita ka na denial, please share it with us.

Again, if you carefully read my response, I never used the term ADS. So I don’t need to point an ad about abs cbn.  ;D

I used the term over-all rating. And I based my statement about the over-all rating (released by abs) on the article posted by Ritchie Nolasco. At iyun ay quinote mo rin.
If it’s not an Ad then why did GMA answered it with an Ad, that’s the point.  So you can't claim that ABS-CBN did what GMA did.  So it was GMA that said, ABS-CBN released the contentious figures and we should believe it? Right! I read a lot of Tabloids and Broadsheets.  Its part of my Job requirement, but I never encountered such data.  All I've seen is the Provincial Ratings that were itemized and not lumped together.  For the sake of argument lets say ABS-CBN did released that said data, then why did GMA had to released the supposed counter-data on a different venue for a different audience?  That doesn't make sense.   And claiming that it just countered an invisible press release is such an intellectually insulting reason.  How can you counter anything that is invisible or in a different arena?  Shadow boxing?  I mean, c'mon!   Magpapaidiot ba ikaw?   Common sense. 

I don't need to show you a denial from ABS-CBN.  Not denying the claim of GMA doesn't mean anything, it does not make it true.  Besides if you can't even produce or point to a single alleged claim of ABS-CBN, then how do you expect me to see a denial?  The burden of proof always lies on the accuser, and that’s you, not me.  hehehe
;D

Actually, its not hilarious. It is feasible. According to survey designs and operations, due to the factor of limited time & financial resources available, you can actually select a (small) SAMPLE that can represent the whole country. Therefore, it is mathematically possible to obtain a sample containing only Mega-Manila, Metro Cebu, Davao and Dagupan because they are elements on the sample space of the Philippines.

To say that a sample selected is bias(ed) needs proof. Since sinabi mo na bias ito, please show your mathematical proof na bias nga ang sample na ito.

Again, as long as you cannot MATHEMATICALLY prove na bias ang sample selection at ang formula ng nielsen, I think you are basing your arguments on speculation.
What!?  Baka himatayin ang professors ko dati sa sinabi mo na yan! lol   It might be the case for some statistical data depending on the purpose.  But not here, where the contention involves regional/local statistics and figures.  First of all you are going against the very principle and claim GMA is making.  Which is they are number one Nationwide not just in one place (Mega Manila).  How can you just factor in three Provinces and make a projection based on the percentage weighted universe that is favorable to you?  How can you make an approximation for an entirely different Regional figures based on a chosen universe?  That will be very lopsided or BIAS.  And furthermore the data from other provinces were readily available; there is no reason why they should be left out.  They could have easily used all the other provinces where ABS-CBN is so far ahead with the ratings, but they did not, why? 

You are asking for proof? I already said the proof.  You just don't want to hear them.

One more thing, just to illustrate how BIAS that press release is; they showed that they are leading "Nationwide" based on the computation they requested.  This was derived from the formula they approved.  They stated the figures for morning, noon and evening ratings using the said formula and it shows they are winning by a very slight margin, but just the same they are still winning.  Then they claim on the very same press release, that out of the top 15 shows 12 of them are from GMA only 3 from ABS-CBN.  This figure, obviously, was not derived from that said formula.  It was reflective of only Mega Manila where they are ahead by a large margin.  But if you tabulate the Top 15 shows using the formula that they used to favor them in “nationwide” ratings, it would not be 12 out of 15 shows.  It will be almost 50/50 between ABS-CBN and GMA.  Reflective of the slight margin derived from the "nationwide" Ratings.  Obviously it would not be favorable to them to use the formula on the Top 15 tabulation.  But they incorporated it just the same to deceive the clueless readers again and to make it appear that out of the Top 15 shows "NATIONWIDE" 12 of them are from GMA.

And that's not Bias? LOL Yeah Right.  hehehe

Eto ang crucial factor: Sino ang magfufund ng survey? At hanggang kelan? Willing kaya ang abs? I hope they would. Sila ang dapat mag-negate sa computations ng nielsen na nirequest ng gma. As long as hindi nag-iissue ng public apology ang nielsen regarding their computation of the over-all rating, it is up to abs to dispute it in an academic manner.
That is one reason why AC Nielsen and AGB does not compute Ratings on a Nationwide basis.  The technology and logistics are not yet there.  It would not be accurate to do so.  Thats why the ratings only show itemize Provinces so not to misled the public.

Why will Nielsen make a public apology?  They never claimed that the survey accurately reflects the Nationwide preference.  NEVER.  If they do that they will lose their credibility.  If you heard or read anything like this kindly point it out.  All AC Nielsen did was to make a computation based on the request and formula of GMA.  What GMA does with it is their business, AC Nielsen is out of it.

Here is why GMA don't want an itemize figures (which is the industry's practice).  It's self explanatory.

AGB Philippines
Coverage: January-March 2005
Audience Share

Bacolod
ABS-CBN 90%
GMA 4%

Tacloban
ABS-CBN 89%
GMA 9%

General Santos
ABS-CBN 87%
GMA 11%

Naga
ABS-CBN 86%
GMA 9%

Legaspi
ABS-CBN 86%
GMA 18%

Zamboanga
ABS-CBN 75%
GMA 20%

Baguio
ABS-CBN 68%
GMA 29%

Davao
ABS-CBN 63%
GMA 17%

Cagayan De Oro
ABS-CBN 55%
GMA 35%

Cebu
ABS-CBN 50%
GMA 28%

Urban Areas (Luzon)
ABS-CBN 49%
GMA 38%

Dagupan
ABS-CBN 37%
GMA 27%

It woudn't look good kasi.

Additional explanation:
Paano mo nasabi na masarap ang coke? Tumikim ka lang ng isa o dalawang bote, pwede na, di ba? At maniniwala ka na sa conclusion mo with just a few bottles, right?

Ang tanong ko: kailangan mo bang inumin ang lahat ng bote ng coke sa pilipinas para masabi mo na masarap ang coke? Siguro naman hindi praktikal iyun. Ganoon din ang surveys. If you think that four cities is not enough, then conducting a survey na covered ang mas maraming area is a good idea. hindi nga lang praktikal.  ;)
Additional Explanation for your Additional Explanation:

You are not hearing me obviously.  It's very evident on that Coke analogy. lol

That was precisely the point I've been making, if you only read my arguments with an open mind.  You can't use a single universe and apply it to compute all different and distinct equations and problems that have their own given universe.  Why?  Again the programming of the Networks does not exactly mirror Mega Manila's programming and vice versa.  Bawat region may localize programming and each provinces have different figures.

To borrow your analogy; it's like tasting Coke and making a judgment based on it for the entire Coke flavors such as Vanilla, Cherry and Classic.  Kung favorable sa Coke(GMA) yung review(ratings) kasi nasarapan(nagrate) sa Coke(Mega-Manila) then swerte nila.  The prudent way to do it is taste all four different flavors so you can make a general conclusion that Coca-Cola Brands is good.  You can’t assume or judge the four other Coke flavors based on that particular Coke nor can you make a sweeping statement that Coke Products are good based on a single flavor you tasted, because each flavors varied even if they are all Cola based.

I rest my case.  ;D ;)
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Excalibur on May 31, 2005 at 12:38 AM
Hi Excalibur, you have some good points but, this is how I see it:
Hehehe meron ngang "kung" but you implied it just the same.   Making a point like that is argumentative, so, that in turn implies I made an opposite argument and saying I did not, make your "duda" statement totally pointless.  Then why say it at all?   
;D

good point. eto naman kasi ang reason ko:
i think abs did use nielsen figures before
to show na they are the leading network nationwide.

so, may pinagmulan naman ang hypothetical question ko
regarding abs's willingness & trust to use nielsen figures in the future.

Yes of course, definitely.  By the very nature of the request it makes it biased in favor of GMA.  Would they make a formulation or request a computation that would be disadvantageous to them?  Every statistician knows that statistical data can easily be slanted.  That's why formulas and computations must be agreed upon by all parties involved to make it aceptable.  Out of 6 VHF Networks and 7 UHF Stations, how many approved the formula?  How many of them initiated the Nationwide computation which is not NORMALY PRACTICED?   OBVIOUSLY that computatin is not a standard practice in the industry.  Do I need to say more?
 ;)

now that's info. thanx.  ;D
teka, ilan nga ba? wag mo naman ako ibitin. 

If it’s not an Ad then why did GMA answered it with an Ad, that’s the point.  So you can't claim that ABS-CBN did what GMA did.  So it was GMA that said, ABS-CBN released the contentious figures and we should believe it? Right! I read a lot of Tabloids and Broadsheets.  Its part of my Job requirement, but I never encountered such data.  All I've seen is the Provincial Ratings that were itemized and not lumped together. 

since sinulat ng isang broadsheet ang issue na ito,
siguro naman, may kopya din ang broadsheet/s
ng mga supposed tables computed/released by abs cbn
so that they can also verify the info released by gma.

it might be possible na sila ay may kopya ng tables
at nagkataon na ikaw ay wala.  ;)

For the sake of argument lets say ABS-CBN did released that said data, then why did GMA had to released the supposed counter-data on a different venue for a different audience?  That doesn't make sense.   

actually it does. strategy yun.
gma had to seek out an audience to air their ideas.
and they just chose a different audience.

I don't need to show you a denial from ABS-CBN.  Not denying the claim of GMA doesn't mean anything, it does not make it true.  Besides if you can't even produce or point to a single alleged claim of ABS-CBN, then how do you expect me to see a denial?  The burden of proof always lies on the accuser, and that’s you, not me.  hehehe
;D

good point.  :)

however, it is abs' duty to seek out the truth
because they are a media company.

it is abs cbn's duty to deny gma's statements
re: "over-all ratings" because being a media company
they should be a vanguard of/for truth.
(that is, if lies talaga ang sinabi sa "ads" ng gma)

in addition, sa media, battle of perception/s rin iyan.
at may kasabihan tayo na with regards to perception,
"silence usually means yes".

sa (perception at) media, the burden of proof
does not always have to be with the accuser ;)

What!?  Baka himatayin ang professors ko dati sa sinabi mo na yan! lol   It might be the case for some statistical data depending on the purpose.  But not here, where the contention involves regional/local statistics and figures.  First of all you are going against the very principle and claim GMA is making.  Which is they are number one Nationwide not just in one place (Mega Manila).  How can you just factor in three Provinces and make a projection based on the percentage weighted universe that is favorable to you?  How can you make an approximation for an entirely different Regional figures based on a chosen universe?  That will be very lopsided or BIAS

how about MULTI-LEVEL SAMPLING METHOD?  :)
I think what gma-nielsen did can be imagined
kung proportional allocation ang iisipin mo.

by the way, i think mega manila includes areas
near but outside metromanila kaya malaki ang weight nila.

And furthermore the data from other provinces were readily available; there is no
reason why they should be left out.  They could have easily used all the other provinces where ABS-CBN is so far ahead with the ratings, but they did not, why? 

di nila gagamitin kasi makakasama sa kanila iyun.
its like abs announcing sa station nila that they are number 2 in mega manila now.
(remember, tinanong kita before about the possibility
that both of them may be deceiving the public?)

You are asking for proof? I already said the proof.  You just don't want to hear them.

kasi anybody can say an estimate is bias.
but to support their statement with figures
and mathematical process will reduce subjectivity.

with regards to your proof about representation,
may expalantion ako about sampling later...

...What GMA does with it is their business, AC Nielsen is out of it...

kung kayang gawin ng gma iyon, bakit ipinagawa pa nila sa nielsen?
isnt it possible that nielsen was more capable in making the computation?

also, every time a respected seller releases a product, 
he makes sure na he can stand by his product.
at laging may unspoken agreement ang seller
with their buyer na hindi dapat gagamitin ang produkto
para makasira sa seller.
i do think nielsen is smart enough to know this.
i believe they can stand by the figure they gave to gma.


Additional Explanation for your Additional Explanation:

You are not hearing me obviously.  It's very evident on that Coke analogy. lol

That was precisely the point I've been making, if you only read my arguments with an open mind.  You can't use a single universe and apply it to compute all different and distinct equations and problems that have their own given universe. 

teka, baka naman you are talking about the population, not the universe.
the philippines can be defined as one population kasi.
one province can also be defined as a population.
so, depende sa researcher iyan.

Why?  Again the programming of the Networks does not exactly mirror Mega Manila's programming and vice versa.  Bawat region may localize programming and each provinces have different figures.

please explain the concept of localize programming
para naman makrespond ako ng maayos sa arguments mo.  :)

eto kasi ang idea ko as of now:
we are talking about a rating here.
and a rating does not have a MEASURING UNIT.
(unitless sya) it is expressed in percent.
therefore, pwede mo syang i-combine with other ratings
of diff areas to obtain a weighted average.

kung ang elem, HS & college grade ay na-cocompute ang GPA
considering na totally different ang nature ng mga enrolled subjects,
diff skeds, diff teachers, diff class requirements, diff classmates, diff rooms, etc.
at accepted ito, bakit hindi sa tv rating?
 
To borrow your analogy; it's like tasting Coke and making a judgment based on it for the entire Coke flavors such as Vanilla, Cherry and Classic.  Kung favorable sa Coke(GMA) yung review(ratings) kasi nasarapan(nagrate) sa Coke(Mega-Manila) then swerte nila.  The prudent way to do it is taste all four different flavors so you can make a general conclusion that Coca-Cola Brands is good.  You can’t assume or judge the four other Coke flavors based on that particular Coke nor can you make a sweeping statement that Coke Products are good based on a single flavor you tasted, because each flavors varied even if they are all Cola based.

I rest my case.  ;D ;)

ginamit ko ang analogy na iyon to point out na
feasible at acceptable ang sampling sa diff areas.
to arrive at a generalization/conclusion na masarap ang coke.
ni hindi ko nga binanggit sa ang other coke flavors eh.
ikaw naman. 

ang pinag-uusapan dito ay preference ng isang brand over another.
(abs vs. gma, remember?)
 
o, eto na lang ang explanation ko:
parang pepsi challenge ang ratings war.
(in this case, coke at pepsi lang ha. walang ibang flavors.)  ;)

at mag-pepepsi challenge ka sa limited number of areas
kasi may budget at schedule ka.

...It would not be accurate to do so.  Thats why the ratings only show itemize Provinces so not to misled the public...

as long as agb & neilsen will state
kung anong sampling method ang ginamit nila,
hindi na misleading iyon.
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 03, 2005 at 10:39 PM
MANILA TIMES

EAST AND WEST
By JULIUS F. FORTUNA

BRIEF NOTES. Gabby Lopez, the top man in ABS-CBN, has obtained access
to derogatory information about its rival. Sources have said that the
information is lethal to the opponent because it involves shares that
are supposed to be kept secret . . . Aides of Gabby are egging the ABS
chief to expose the information, but it was said that the grandson of
Don Eugenio wants to keep the war on the level of gentlemen. It was
said that the Lopez channel has been silently suffering the attack
from its rival network on the ABS-CBN as a vested interest group "na may
pinoprotektahan." When will Gabby use his card?




Does anyone have an idea what this is all about?
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: bad_movie on Jun 05, 2005 at 03:05 PM
eto lang....walang kahit sino pa mang gumawa ng statistics na naging "very" accurate o kahit near accurate. kahit anong sampling method pa gawin nila....merely statistical datas vs human behavior ang pinagbabangga? papano mo irereconcile yun? kalokohang malaki...i can say i favor this network kung tatanungin ako pero hindi pala tapos ilalabas nila as data....kalokohan na agad....kahit median ng population hindi nila kaya makuha ang opinion so how come they can derive such results? a pinch of salt is incomparable to an ocean...

don't believe such statistics ek-ek....nababayaran lahat yan and they are "NOT" reliable, never will and never is...

anyone who wants to rebutt? go ahead. it's going to be my logic vs. your data...lol

just my two cents. PEACE!!!
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: RitchieNolasco on Jun 19, 2005 at 01:06 PM
Where did ABS-CBN go wrong?
       
By CARLOS BANAAG

We’ve had a rude awakening," said Gabby Lopez, ABS-CBN Chairman and CEO.

After several months in what a therapist might call the denial stage, ABS-CBN now admits openly that it is no longer No. 1 in the ratings in Mega Manila. Of course, the Lopez network still claims to be ahead nationwide or more accurately in Cebu, Dagupan and Davao; but everyone knows that it’s the Manila numbers that really count. And the Manila numbers leave no room for doubt. For the first quarter of 2005, ABS-CBN had an audience share of only 34%, while GMA-7 had 46%.

Since as far back as August 1987, ABS-CBN had lorded it over the competition with programs such as "TV Patrol" "Home Along Da Riles" and "Maalaala Mo Kaya." Cracks began to show up on the ABS walls of fortress in the late 1990’s, but until recently the network continued to dominate the television landscape with hits like "Meteor Garden" and "Marina."

Late last year, the Kapamilya station could still say that it controlled the all-important primetime TV viewing block. Then, in what seemed like a matter of weeks, ABS-CBN’s ratings collapsed. GMA-7 literally swept the field, took over the top position in every time slot throughout the day and night, and became the first new overall ratings champ in a generation.


WHERE DID IT GO WRONG?

Retiring Freddie Garcia was one big mistake. But that’s the easy answer. It’s true that the decline in ABS-CBN’s viewership that followed closely after his retirement couldn’t be purely coincidence. The idea, however, that the loss of Garcia alone caused the fall of ABS-CBN is as ridiculous as the notion that Felipe Gozon single-handedly drove GMA-7 to the top. The "Great Man" approach to management is facile at best and flies in the face of well-documented studies of many great companies.

That ABS-CBN was brought down by an unfortunate confluence of personalities, policies and events is probably closest to the truth. For the full story, wait for the book. For our purposes here, however, if we can encapsulate what went right for 17 years, we may see what ultimately went wrong.

In broadcast and advertising circles, there is a general agreement that ABS-CBN did three things extremely well over the years: First, they copied other people’s ideas, but made them better. Second, they pirated the best shows and the best people. Third, they crushed everybody else.

Let’s say, for example, that a competitor had produced a variety show that was beginning to attract viewers. ABS-CBN would immediately launch a bigger variety show with glitzier sets, grander production numbers and more hosts. If the competition had a singer who was getting praise, ABS-CBN would offer to triple her talent fee. Finally, it would never be enough to just edge out the competing show in the ratings.

ABS-CBN made sure that its lead was overwhelming. Never give an inch! Take no prisoners! Total victory! These were the battlecries that you imagined ABS-CBN employees heard from their leaders every day. It didn’t matter what types of shows were involved—dramas, sitcoms, children’s shows, news and public affairs. The same three ploys worked over and over again. What could be copied was improved upon. What couldn’t be copied was pirated. Whatever was left of the enemy was destroyed by any and all means.

The tactics of ABS-CBN employed one basic weapon: Money. More money than other networks were able or willing to spend. Money for production, money for programming, money for equipment and facilities, money for executive salaries, money for talent fees, even money for game show prizes. If Christopher de Leon gave away a million on his show, Kris Aquino gave two million on hers.

The deep pockets and Ilonggo generosity of the Lopezes were legendary. The dream of young talents and industry executives alike was to be noticed and hired by ABS-CBN so that they too could enjoy the fantastic salaries and benefits that only the Lopezes were paying.


AWAKENING

About five years ago, everything changed. The listing of ABS-CBN shares on the stock exchange had been brilliant in that it gave the network access to a huge hoard of other people’s money, but it also seemed to have a more profound and insidious effect on the mind-set of the network’s policy makers.

Like many other companies ruled by fluctuating share prices, ABS-CBN become more conscious of short-term financial results and embarked on cost-cutting campaigns. At first, the cuts were facetious—sorry no more fresh flowers in the executive offices and reuse your plastic cups please—but later, they began to cut, not just fat, but meat and bone.

The older, more established and more expensive artistas were let go or alienated. Those who were retained had package deals that ensured that viewers would see them over and over again to the point of satiety. The number of shooting days per episode was reduced. Promo spots that would have looked great on film were done on video.

At the same time, Channel 2 strayed from its traditional three-part formula. Take the case of "Extra Challenge" which GMA-7 used to establish a beachhead in primetime. ABS-CBN never deigned to produce a clone of the show even when it had become clear that the celebrity Fear Factor format was going to be a monster hit. Nor did ABS pursue Paolo Bediones or Miriam Quiambao or Ethel Booba in the way that it went after, say, Kris Aquino and Boy Abunda a decade earlier.

Finally, ABS-CBN hesitated to pit its strongest programs against the upstart reality show. Instead, "Extra Challenge" became the programming tentpole that pulled up the ratings of "24 Oras" and "Mulawin."

Speaking of "24 Oras," the continued success of Mike Enriquez represents another example of the failure to properly implement the standard ABS-CBN strategy. The Lopez network successfully enticed Karen Davila to move over; but she was never the top anchor of GMA-7. That honor belonged to Mike Enriquez, whose unique appearance and style is not clone-able.

ABS-CBN’s next option was to pirate him; but although meetings reportedly took place, ABS-CBN apparently balked at offering him an amount of money that would make him jump ship. The last recourse is to attack Enriquez; thus far, however, complaints filed against him have not prospered.

Yet another example involves Michael V. and "Bitoy’s Funniest Videos." ABS-CBN’s "Vid-Joking" was a copy but not an improvement. Mark Logan is no Michael V. And though the latter was available, ABS-CBN did not get him. The list goes on.

Certainly, a host of other problems contributed to pulling ABS-CBN down to number 2, among them, the internal politics, favoritism and intrigues; the loss of credibility in news and current affairs; the drain on resources represented by Studio 23 and other ventures; and the lack of broadcast experience of its president.

Nevertheless, one factor stands out as the proximate cause of ABS-CBN’s collapse in primetime: The failure to aggressively protect its market share using the methods that had succeeded so spectacularly in the past.

Gabby Lopez says ABS-CBN is awake now. The question is: Will we see a ponderous giant roused from slumber but weakened by cost-cutting OR will we be treated to the adventures of a lean, mean, show-no-mercy pirate? As every other TV reporter says when he doesn’t know the answer, "Only time will tell."
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: Mr. Big Boy on Jun 23, 2005 at 04:08 PM
What is GMA-7 doing wrong?
By CARLOS BANAAG


In the Service of Man, For the Glory of God.


That was then.

Today it's "Kapuso Mo, Anumang Kulay ng Mundo," which on the GMA-7 website is translated into "One in Heart, Regardless of the Colors of Life." One imagines that what they mean is that GMA network knows and shares your desires, no matter who you are.

The fact is they do seem to have divined what most Filipino televiewers want. On its premiere night, the primetime reincarnation of "Darna" starring Angel Locsin, again with wings (on her headband), attracted 60.3% of people watching television. A month later GMA-7 followed it up with yet another fantasy series featuring stars in outlandish costumes. The pilot episode of "Encantadia" got a fantastic 61.8% share of the audience. On that same night, the Asia-novela "Full House" did even better, hitting 67.3%. More than two out of every three viewers were glued to GMA-7.

While these numbers are impressive, they do not fully reflect the strength of the Kapuso network. The ratings of entertainment programs are notoriously unstable-but a couple of GMA-7 shows have consistently rated well for much more than just one night or one season. "Bubble Gang" has been a Friday night staple for around a decade. And of course, "Eat Bulaga" which recently celebrated its 25th year on the air continues to be the top noontime show. Now, that's strength.

GMA-7's muscle in news programming is equally if not more remarkable because news viewers are generally thought to be more conservative, more loyal, more likely to stay with what they are used to. Although "TV Patrol" was the top newscast for over 15 years, "24 Oras" broke the stranglehold of ABS-CBN on the early evening news slot. It currently beats "Patrol" by something like five to 10 rating points each night. Who would have thought that Mike Enriquez could be a TV anchor, let alone the nation's number one newscaster?
Somebody at GMA-7 did.

The truth in the "Kapuso" slogan, therefore, is undeniable. GMA-7 does have a finger on the pulse of the people and is thus able to supply what the multitudes want, when they want it.

It is telling, however, that the network's motto no longer mentions any higher purpose or social responsibility. Abandoning "Service to man and for the glory of God," slogan, GMA-7 now appears to aspire for nothing beyond pandering to the desires of the mass audience in order to increase ratings and revenues. Sadly, the lack of altruism indicated in the "Kapuso" catchphrase seems to be borne out in the network's programs and practices.

Examples can be found in the area of children's programming. In place of award-winning educational shows like "Sesame Street" and "Blues Clues," GMA-7 now airs cartoons. As a result, morning ratings have shot up. Obviously, kids want cartoons. But is that what they need? Whereas ABS-CBN put its money into productions like "Sineskwela" and "MathTinik," GMA-7 has nothing comparable to these programs, despite having overtaken ABS-CBN in profits.

"Quality" programming has also fallen by the wayside. Gone are the telemovies and drama anthologies in which writers and directors at least attempted to be creative, artistic or thought-provoking as well as entertaining. Instead GMA-7 seeks to tickle viewers with comedies and gag shows that are practically unscripted and only barely directed. The fantasy soap operas are expensive; but as entertainment, they are more closely related to the circus than to great television like "Angels in America."

Mel Tiangco's "Magpakailanman," which could have stood as the last bastion of quality, has been reduced to a publicity vehicle for minor personalities, extending their 15 minutes of fame to an excruciating hour and a half.

Ironically, some quarters think GMA-7's "abandonment" of the public trust is most acute in the news programs that do carry high-minded slogans. Channel 7's protestations of objectivity and public service-"Walang Kinikilingan, Serbisyong Totoo," etc.-are not to be taken seriously when one considers, for instance, that its news anchors are commercial endorsers of pharmaceuticals, herbal remedies, laundry detergent bars, instant coffee and who knows what else. More significantly, GMA-7 was perceived to be anti-Erap and pro-Gloria back in the days of EDSA 2 and 3. Will it skew its news coverage to favor the Arroyo administration even in this season of wiretapping and jueteng scandals? Or will the viewers' attention be simply diverted away from the government crisis?

Crisis or no crisis, the increasing number of minutes devoted to entertainment news has regrettably turned the newscasts into extensions of the "trashy" showbiz talk shows; and the program plugs masquerading as news stories are nothing but a disservice to the public.

In the simple matter of starting the newscasts on time and at decent times, GMA-7 has failed utterly. Thus, virtually every day, the public interest is sacrificed in order to let higher rating entertainment programs run long and carry more commercials.

It is worth nothing that GMA-7 can "legally" cram in more commercials per hour than any other TV network because it is no longer a member of the KBP. Forget GMA-7's belated arguments that the KBP is a martial law creation and that there is no scientific basis for setting the maximum commercial load at 18 minutes per hour. The ultimate effect of GMA-7's withdrawal from the KBP is that the Kapuso network can overload on ads with impunity. Serving the public or respecting the viewers? There are profits to be made.

Will this social irresponsibility cause a backlash against GMA-7? Yes, there are complaints; but no, there is no general outcry, much less a call to punish the network for its misdeeds . . . yet. Observers are so impressed by the surge in the network's ratings and profits that they do not see or care what principles may have been forfeited in order to achieve these numbers. Besides, the Filipino public has bigger problems to deal with at the moment.

If GMA-7 hopes to maintain its success over the long term, however, top management would do well to heed one of the central lessons in the book "Built to Last." "Profitability is a necessary condition for existence and a means to more important ends, but it is not the end in itself," write authors Collins and Porras. The most successful and enduring companies are those which are committed to a purpose and set of core values which transcend purely economic considerations such as profit-maximization and maximizing shareholder wealth.
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Post by: Asktig on Jun 23, 2005 at 04:24 PM
Where did ABS-CBN go wrong?     

What is GMA-7 doing wrong?
By CARLOS BANAAG

nabasa ko ito sa inquirer... ::)
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Post by: RitchieNolasco on Jul 03, 2005 at 10:42 AM
From http://www.philstar.com/philstar/freeman200507032401.htm

'Ratings gone bad' set the tone for massive ABS-CBN revamp
SHOWBIZDRIBBLE By Salve V. Asis
The Freeman 07/03/2005

It's going to be a "bloody" week in ABS-CBN. The word is that close to 500 people will be given their walking papers as part of the network's massive efforts to reinvent itself in the face of rapidly falling ratings.

Aside from retrenchment, ABS-CBN will also be canceling a number of its programs and moving others to new time slots. Such mainstays as "Pipol" and "Dong Puno Live" are being cut. Boy Abunda's "Kontrobersyal" has been moved to a slot after "Insider." "Dong Puno Live" was literally eaten alive in the ratings game by GMA-7's "Debate" and ABS-CBN feels confident Kontrobersyal could take Debate head-on.

The Lopezes' network has also taken in new managers to inject new life in moribund departments. Maria Ressa, who carved out a name as a CNN correspondent and later bureau chief, is taking charge of ABS-CBN's news and public affairs department. And Emily Abrera, a respected figure in advertising, is coming aboard to boost the networks' advertising and marketing arms.

Why all these changes? I guess ABS-CBN has finally come to acknowledge that it has lost its position as industry leader to its smaller but more creative rival. For years, GMA-7 has been overshadowed in the ratings war by ABS-CBN. Things began to change when the teleserye fad came into the scene. ABS-CBN took the early lead, rolling out the highly successful "Marina." Slowly, however, GMA-7 started to catch up. It produced the blockbuster series "Mulawin." By the time it debuted "Darna" and "Encantadia," the little network had taken a clear lead.

Today, GMA-7 dominates in the reality game show category with "Extra Challenge" and in news programs with "24 Oras." It would have been foolish of ABS-CBN to just watch its rival race to the lead.

In television, ratings are everything. Advertisers will not waste time or money on second best. Let's see how the battle of the networks pan out.
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Post by: RMN on Jul 04, 2005 at 05:34 PM
In a move that is expected to bring more credibility to the network, and reduce controveries arising from sister Lopez companies, the board of ABS-CBN has accepted the resignation of Director Manolo Lopez, Meralco Chair & CEO. In his place, Emily Abrera, formerly of ad agency Mccan-Ericson (sp?) was appointed.
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Post by: viper on Jul 27, 2005 at 06:11 AM
ABS-CBN and GMA7 was supposed to slug it out in San Francisco last weekend. Is it true that the ABS CBN crowd was humongous and the GMA show was relegated to a mere 'mall' show? (Seems like Cebu fiasco all over again for GMA7). I saw on TV ABS's San Francisco show (which is way much better than last week's show). Nover got to see GMA's show last Sunday. Is it true they went on 'best of' episode again (another term for replay). Maybe GMA is post producing their taped US show to add additional audience  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: viper on Jul 28, 2005 at 07:16 PM
Test to see if this topic will go back on top.
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Post by: viper on Jul 28, 2005 at 07:24 PM
Test to see if this topic will go back on top.

Ayaw talaga!
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Post by: firewired on Jul 28, 2005 at 07:46 PM
Okay, my turn...

... and you're right.

Will try again after I do the upgrades tomorrow night.
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Post by: viper on Aug 21, 2005 at 07:51 PM
Subok uli kung mag-aapir na sa board!  ;) ;)

Pinoy Big Brother simula po ngayong gabi!
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Post by: viper on Aug 21, 2005 at 08:03 PM
Subok uli kung mag-aapir na sa board!  ;) ;)

Pinoy Big Brother simula po ngayong gabi!

'Ngek!'

Ayaw pa rin! :( ??? :( ???
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Post by: Munskie on Feb 14, 2008 at 02:57 PM
kakasawa at kakasuka na...news...segments...features regarding the ratings scandal.....pwe!!!  >:(
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Post by: frootloops on Feb 14, 2008 at 08:11 PM
They have done it before and is doing it again. For ABS, this is a clear case of misleading the people to avoid further issues regarding Willie Revillame's "practice video"  on the alleged scam on Willie of Fortune.

If I may ask, where is the issue now?
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Post by: Ctlim on Feb 14, 2008 at 08:22 PM
gma7 nalang... abscbn sucks... baduy, bakya at puro social climber na pokpok ;D
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Post by: otepsy on Feb 20, 2008 at 12:18 PM
obvious naman gma ang no. 1

so dapat hindi na pinacocompete ang abs sa gma dahil wala na talaga habol...

ang naglalaban ngayon sa no. 2 slot ay qtv 11 (kapuso din) and abs dahil no. 1 talaga gma yung ngang studio 23 ng abs wala na rin wenta eh
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Post by: RMN on Mar 05, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Charo Santos Concio is the new ABS-CBN president,  making her the 1st woman to hold such a post and the 5th to assume the presidency of the network. This further cements her position as the most powerful woman in Philippine Media. I believe she deserves it.
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Post by: Jun_P on Mar 05, 2008 at 03:10 PM
i prefer to watch chan 2.. only for the morning show  ;D. Somehow I don't really find the morning show on channel 7 entertaining. UKG is entertaining.. And also because i like Donita Rose  ;)
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Post by: mrm on Mar 12, 2008 at 04:36 PM
obvious naman gma ang no. 1

so dapat hindi na pinacocompete ang abs sa gma dahil wala na talaga habol...

ang naglalaban ngayon sa no. 2 slot ay qtv 11 (kapuso din) and abs dahil no. 1 talaga gma yung ngang studio 23 ng abs wala na rin wenta eh

up
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Post by: rascal101 on Mar 12, 2008 at 05:47 PM
I believe it is rash to judge who is number 1 based on subjective opinions. I say let's do things based on the bottom line - who earns more money?
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 12, 2008 at 05:57 PM
GMA earns more money based on an article in the Inquirer i read.  Earning money meaning net income.
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Post by: Macross on Mar 14, 2008 at 01:23 PM
GMA earns more money based on an article in the Inquirer i read.  Earning money meaning net income.

i think Inquirer is (partly) owned by GMA 7.   ;)

for me:  i prefer GMA 7 programs in-general.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Mar 14, 2008 at 06:17 PM
i think Inquirer is (partly) owned by GMA 7.   ;)

for me:  i prefer GMA 7 programs in-general.

Maybe but the figures were based on fact which were also reported by media.  So the figures are pretty reliable.
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Post by: thegoodbyeguy on Mar 16, 2008 at 10:47 PM


        GMA may not necessarily be the best network now but they are certainly the best in terms of ethics in general. GMA got my vote.
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Post by: johnnyblaze on Mar 26, 2008 at 01:41 AM
I vote for ABS CBN  ;D
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Post by: John E. on Mar 26, 2008 at 03:20 AM
i rarely watch tv shows on ABS-CBN. i don't even recall watching any  ;D  i'd go for GMA 7.

OT

for studio 23 vs QTV id go with Q (american idol) since may MYX channel naman sa cable.

for DZMM (TV radio) and DZRH (TV radio via cube tv channel) my vote goes for DZMM.
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Post by: stickfighter on Mar 26, 2008 at 04:02 AM
For me...I can live my life without both ABS CBN and GMA7. I don't need them and I don't watch them. I have cable and my DVD collection to entertain me... ;)
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Post by: John E. on Mar 26, 2008 at 04:22 AM
OT ako nun i thought i could'nt live without jack tv buti nalang may maxxx  ;D
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Post by: Adran on Mar 26, 2008 at 12:06 PM
I'm from Los Angeles California and I like them both.   I  enjoy watching Joaquin Bordado and Lobo.
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Post by: darkgemini87 on Apr 13, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Since I could remember ABS-CBN na pinapanood namin dito sa Davao.
Pero I rarely watch it now. I prefer to watch the shows in Sky Cable.
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Post by: Watusi on Apr 15, 2008 at 03:21 AM
Prefer GMA over ABS when it comes to Public Affairs shows. For me GMA is No. 1 on this segment, I like their Imbestigador, Emergency, Kapuso Mo, Jessica Soho and 100% Pinoy shows.   
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Post by: JEcHb0Y on Apr 25, 2008 at 03:37 PM
ABS CBN is good at pirating talents built up by GMA(i.e. Angel Locsin, Toni Gonzaga) and when a certain talent has no use for them anymore, they discard them like yesterday's trash(i.e. Arnel Ignacio, Long Mejia).  They also have a knack of copying formulas from other stations' shows.
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Post by: allanmandy on Apr 25, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Well, so does GMA. Heart Evangelista just transferred to GMA the other day.

In fairness to ABS-CBN, the stars they really build up become better actors. Angel Locsin for one. She's much better in Lobo than she was in her GMA soaps.


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Post by: reynold on Apr 25, 2008 at 04:31 PM
ABS CBN is good at pirating talents built up by GMA(i.e. Angel Locsin, Toni Gonzaga) and when a certain talent has no use for them anymore, they discard them like yesterday's trash(i.e. Arnel Ignacio, Long Mejia).  They also have a knack of copying formulas from other stations' shows.

I agree on this one... i voted GMA, sobrang ok ang reception nila compare to ABS-CBN, maulan ;D
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Post by: JEcHb0Y on Apr 25, 2008 at 06:00 PM
Well, so does GMA. Heart Evangelista just transferred to GMA the other day.

In fairness to ABS-CBN, the stars they really build up become better actors. Angel Locsin for one. She's much better in Lobo than she was in her GMA soaps.




Heart probably transferred to GMA because there want any new projects given to her.  Which just proves what I have been saying in the first place, if you've outlived your use at ABS, you're history.  In a word, swapang ang ABS. 
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Post by: allanmandy on Apr 25, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Which station isn't? It all boils down to ratings (=advertisements). I refuse to believe that ABS-CBN is the ONLY station that does this. It is a business, after all.


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Post by: pjayg on Apr 25, 2008 at 09:02 PM
i think GMA got Heart cos she's not under ABS management for the past few months ... she decided to let Genesis (of Gary V) manage her, thus the fewer projects in ABS ... the way i see it, GMA gets the unloyal and few-project talents of ABS ... just my opinion though

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Post by: boredfilmmaker on Apr 25, 2008 at 09:50 PM
i think GMA got Heart cos she's not under ABS management for the past few months ... she decided to let Genesis (of Gary V) manage her, thus the fewer projects in ABS ... the way i see it, GMA gets the unloyal and few-project talents of ABS ... just my opinion though

actually, Heart left Genesis as well.. she's now managed by her dad and Annabelle Rama kaya nasa GMA na siya..
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Post by: allanmandy on Apr 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM
O, here's another shocker that's sure to piss off all the Kapusos out there:

Billy Crawford has switched sides and is slated to host Pinoy Dream Academy Season 2 (http://www.yehey.com/entertainment/celebs/article.aspx?id=211353)

Who could blame him? He wants more global exposure, something ABS-CBN can obviously give him.


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Post by: chizcake on Apr 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM
i vote for ABS , i really like how they deliver NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS..
and medyo onti ang mga parinig sa channel 2 eh! yung mga pasimple na pang asar sa ibang network bihira dito,

but.. PA OT lang po, before my way of watching channels are 2, 7, 23 now 2,9(rpn), 23, 11, hehehe

thanks po
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Post by: X-®an™ on May 03, 2008 at 10:57 PM
7 > 2.
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Post by: iiinas on May 04, 2008 at 12:20 AM
gma  ;D
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Post by: viper on May 06, 2008 at 06:43 PM
From the Wall Street Journal (not AWSJ) April 25-27, 2008 issue:

(http://www.geocities.com/broadcast64/WSJournal.JPG)

In spite of GMA's full page ads glorifying their ratings lead over ABS, I have yet to see them being admired by their peers.
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Post by: chizcake on May 09, 2008 at 08:27 PM
From the Wall Street Journal (not AWSJ) April 25-27, 2008 issue:

(http://www.geocities.com/broadcast64/WSJournal.JPG)

In spite of GMA's full page ads glorifying their ratings lead over ABS, I have yet to see them being admired by their peers.


nice one sir, another reason why i chose abs-cbn

in the service of the filipino worldwide  heheheh

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Post by: pjayg on May 09, 2008 at 08:44 PM
for great looks combined with talent and training of their artists, i choose abs-cbn ... more product endorsers come from this station ... a lot are proven bankable stars ... most of the talents can ACTUALLY sing, dance, emcee and/or act ... almost all dress up really well ... more than half can converse in acceptable english (one trait i still need to see/hear more from gma talents) 
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Post by: otepsy on May 10, 2008 at 10:02 AM
for great looks combined with talent and training of their artists, i choose abs-cbn ... more product endorsers come from this station ... a lot are proven bankable stars ... most of the talents can ACTUALLY sing, dance, emcee and/or act ... almost all dress up really well ... more than half can converse in acceptable english (one trait i still need to see/hear more from gma talents) 

dont agree with these.....Just my opinion......
peace!
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on May 11, 2008 at 08:56 AM
^
^
abs cbn has a lot of this so-called "bankable artists" because they are so good at getting talents from other stations at the top of their game, as already mentioned by a few posts before.  sorry, they may have the better profile abroad, but i dont like their stylings.
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Post by: steelcrazy on May 11, 2008 at 09:33 AM
It has to be GMA. ABS CBN sucks never interested in watching that station specially the news.
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Post by: chizcake on May 14, 2008 at 07:25 AM
^
^
abs cbn has a lot of this so-called "bankable artists" because they are so good at getting talents from other stations at the top of their game, as already mentioned by a few posts before.  sorry, they may have the better profile abroad, but i dont like their stylings.

thats fine sir , everybody has the right to say what they like

right...

hehehe

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Post by: himura001 on Oct 14, 2010 at 02:10 PM
ABS CBN! They have better writers, plots and stories! But GMA 7, for the production design and still pictures (damn they are great on those aspects!) ABS CBN's "telenovelas" have better endings, acting and more realistic (except yung kay Juday and Gladys Reyes, nahulog si galdys mga 3 floors pero mas malakas pa siya sa lalaki, and para siyang doraemon na nakakuha ng gasolina samantalang nasa ospital siya na walang nakakita  ;D). Samantalang sa channel 7 puro barilan and violence ang ending ng telenovela's tapos alang sense of realism (or sobra) gaya ng nahulog ng mga 200 feet tapos bumagsak una likod sa kabayo na lumilipad pero alang bali, also yung mga choreography nila sa action, plainly STUPID! (pinoy tapos alang nagtuturo tapos ang martial arts nila Kung Fu! BWAHAHAHAHA!) >:( ;D >:( ;D
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Post by: chimpanshane on Oct 15, 2010 at 05:36 PM
I love GMA7 except Marian Rivera  ;D
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Post by: mahone on Oct 15, 2010 at 10:30 PM
I love GMA7 because of Marian Rivera  ;)
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Post by: pao9307 on Oct 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM
^^ seconded.  :D
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Post by: chizcake on Oct 16, 2010 at 01:17 AM
i still choose ABS CBN specially the news!

thanks
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Post by: pao9307 on Oct 16, 2010 at 02:46 AM
GMA.

though i really don't know why.maybe my intense annoyance with those uber crappy game shows that ch2 offer.

they can throw everything at eat bulaga, but nothing they do can top it.

anyone noticed na sinabay nila showtime sa slot ng EB?binalik uli sa 1030,olats e.
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Post by: pao9307 on Oct 16, 2010 at 02:48 AM
and isa pa.if you'll check the list of annoying tv personalities thread,most of them are from abs.nuff said.  ::)
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Post by: sgxp97 on Oct 20, 2010 at 03:30 PM
Cable channel is the best, kasi mali yung tanong, dapat which is BETTER.

Support GMA.  Parehong may ari ng Meralco yang ABS at TV5 owners, baka pag na-squeeze out nila GMA baka kung anu anong milagro gawin sa electric bill natin.
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Post by: reynold on Oct 21, 2010 at 09:09 AM
GMA ako, mas malinaw kasi reception ng GMA kaysa sa ABS-CBN e, laki-laki ng antenna, palpak naman reception >:(
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Oct 21, 2010 at 09:36 AM
GMA ako.  ABS CBN does have the better newscasters, writers and reporters.  But when I watch their news shows...parang yun mga newscasters are just reading it off the teleprompters.  Minsan wrong pronunciation ng names.  Inshort parang they don't know what they are reporting on but just read them.  As for writers...minsan naman wrong info yun binabalita nila.
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Post by: dyerds on Oct 21, 2010 at 09:41 AM
I love GMA7 except Marian Rivera  ;D

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2q88tug.jpg)

Do you still hate Marian?  Baka magbago isip nyo, sir. ;D ;D ;D




I hate Mike Enriquez that's  why I watch tv patrol.

I hate Willie and co. and now Rico J and co. that's why I watch Eat Bulaga.

I hate ASAP and SOP that's why I watch cable channels na lang or better yet dvd or blu na lang.  ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Oct 21, 2010 at 09:44 AM
news lang pinapanood ko sa abs and gma. other than that sa cable tv ako  :D
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Post by: blitzkrieg on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:54 PM
 ;D I kinda like GMA7 coz there's nothing pretentious about who they actually put there. Case in point - the so-called jologs like German Moreno and his Walang Tulugan cast and Marian Rivera. Likewise the underrated but great actresses like Sunshine Dizon and Iza Calzado. 

But the news department is something else - Mike Enriquez, Susan Enriquez, Jessica Soho, Arnold Clavio, Love Anover - these are the type of people you see in your nearby palengke and sari-sari stores, the kind that ABS-CBN at the outset would never run after until of course now. In short, unlike ABS-CBN that goes for looks, GMA goes for substance and relevance and for someone the masses could easily relate.
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Post by: Macmon on Oct 22, 2010 at 09:46 AM
GMA - I like better their news delivery. What I dont like is the longer commercials time.
ABS-CBN - More news time for the day. However, their style is style taliba.

What I dont like for both - using foreign (asian) teleserye and converting it for tagalog language.
Cant they make their own teleserye? In any case... I dont like teleserye.
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Post by: ABCmotorparts on Oct 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM
ABS-CBN...

Nababaduyan ako sa mga shows ng GMA eh,...

but hey, that's just me,...  :P
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Post by: NMM1 on Oct 26, 2010 at 03:11 PM
pag noontime. Kapuso ako dahil sa eat bulaga!!!! musta mga dabarkads??? hahahaha
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Oct 26, 2010 at 06:26 PM
ive always been partial to gma since the late 70s and miss the days when you had combat on saturday evenings or charlie's angels or donny and marie and the muppet show on sundays and starsky and hutch during fridays.  it's too bad that nowadays, you have nothing else to put up with but these generic crappy soaps that both stations dish out.
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Post by: Tempter on Oct 27, 2010 at 12:51 AM
I go for ABS because they have "talents", GMA only have looks nothing else :D
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Post by: bass_nut on Oct 27, 2010 at 09:03 AM
i was more on GMA for many years... went to ABS-CBN (and ANC 24/7) since last year as i noticed huge improvement.
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Post by: anya618 on Nov 04, 2010 at 07:01 AM
Korina, Noli all set to return in ‘TV Patrol’ newscast (http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/breakingnews/breakingnews/view/20101104-301365/Korina-Noli-all-set-to-return-in-TV-Patrol-newscast)

nilampaso kasi ng willing willie ung katapat na timeslot sa ch2
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Post by: oweidah on Nov 05, 2010 at 12:31 PM
quo vadis karen davila? abangan mamaya...
(bts karen's hubby is with tv5 pala)

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Post by: anya618 on Nov 05, 2010 at 12:32 PM
quo vadis karen davila? abangan mamaya...
(bts karen's hubby is with tv5 pala)



baka mas maganda offer sa ch5, inalis na rin siya sa tv patrol tapos kasama pa niya husband niya if ever at tv5  :D
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Post by: indie boi on Nov 05, 2010 at 12:42 PM
DJ Sta. Ana kinda rubbed some of the powers that be at the ABS news department the wrong way so he was eased out. He eventually resigned and went to Globe. Didn't know he went back to media.
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Post by: RMN on Nov 06, 2010 at 11:26 AM
Before returning to media, DJ was an executive of Bobby Ongpin's gaming firm.
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Post by: anya618 on Nov 12, 2010 at 10:44 AM
3 TV networks claim Monday ratings lead (http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20101111-302676/3-TV-networks-claim-Monday-ratings-lead)

sino kaya sa 3 ang nagsasabi ng totoo? ;D
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Post by: reynold on Nov 12, 2010 at 01:05 PM
3 TV networks claim Monday ratings lead (http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/entertainment/entertainment/view/20101111-302676/3-TV-networks-claim-Monday-ratings-lead)

sino kaya sa 3 ang nagsasabi ng totoo? ;D

Wala ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: cianzepol on Dec 25, 2010 at 08:42 PM
both are good..

competition is good..
dont mind kung sino man ang mas magaling sa kanila, basta sa competition, tayo ang magbebenifit..
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Post by: anya618 on Mar 05, 2011 at 06:58 AM
lumipat na sa abs cbn ang sexbomb dancers  ::)
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Post by: Tempter on Mar 06, 2011 at 10:52 PM
lumipat na sa abs cbn ang sexbomb dancers  ::)

Survival of the fittest!  ;D
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Post by: wunder9 on Mar 06, 2011 at 11:46 PM
They are both retarded.
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Post by: chizcake on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:41 AM
just sharing my opinion that local channels has stepped up in news programs

i personally like how abs-cbn is handling news , birui mo parang cnn na sila they send people directly from where the news is happening may tao sila mismo sa site ng news which for me is really really good , you get the news straight from where it happens, libya, new zealand galing ,

though even i believe that they are still the best news carrier, i just hate it why cant they open anz and teleradyo to other cable networks sayang eh , quality news 24/7 kaso exclusive sa skycable lang eh , thats not news anymore its business na eh hehehe

channel 5 - aksyon tv galing a different view of news and different approach mahusay

gmanews tv channel 11, its about time , it took you time to have this sana noon pa , akin lang po eh tanggalin natin ang network war sa news channels lets leave it on our entertainment channels nalng, abs and tv5 are doing good in keeping this to minimal sana ganun din po sa gmanewstv

overall , kudos to abs, tv5 and gma  keep it up
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Post by: Tempter on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:48 AM
just sharing my opinion that local channels has stepped up in news programs

i personally like how abs-cbn is handling news , birui mo parang cnn na sila they send people directly from where the news is happening may tao sila mismo sa site ng news which for me is really really good , you get the news straight from where it happens, libya, new zealand galing ,

though even i believe that they are still the best news carrier, i just hate it why cant they open anz and teleradyo to other cable networks sayang eh , quality news 24/7 kaso exclusive sa skycable lang eh , thats not news anymore its business na eh hehehe

channel 5 - aksyon tv galing a different view of news and different approach mahusay

gmanews tv channel 11, its about time , it took you time to have this sana noon pa , akin lang po eh tanggalin natin ang network war sa news channels lets leave it on our entertainment channels nalng, abs and tv5 are doing good in keeping this to minimal sana ganun din po sa gmanewstv

overall , kudos to abs, tv5 and gma  keep it up

I like ABS-CBN kasi hindi sila masyadong madaldal when it comes to pasiklaban ng station. Hindi tulad ng GMA na parang yun na lang ang purpose nila sa buhay, ang pabagsakin ang ABS. Ang TV5 naman nakikiride-on sa rivalry ng dalawa. So sad...

WHen it comes to new, I admire ABS, direct, walang halong pasikat...
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Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I still watch ABS CBN news over GMA, better yet ANC over ABS CBN because it has filtered down to the most relavant news of the day. But I prefer the late news of GMA over Bandila, I didn't like their format of discussing opinions thru iPad and iMac. They seem to follow CNN's programs, GMA copied iReport in YouScoop.

But there's a controversy going on with ABS-CBN's TV Patrol omission of Binay's name. It's still GMA who has no biases but their reporters are new and boring. 

Binay: The one who cannot be named

http://politics.inquirer.net/politics/view/20110304-323367/Binay-The-one-who-cannot-be-named#

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Post by: Tempter on Mar 07, 2011 at 12:34 PM
I still watch ABS CBN news over GMA, better yet ANC over ABS CBN because it has filtered down to the most relavant news of the day. But I prefer the late news of GMA over Bandila, I didn't like their format of discussing opinions thru iPad and iMac. They seem to follow CNN's programs, GMA copied iReport in YouScoop.

But there's a controversy going on with ABS-CBN's TV Patrol omission of Binay's name. It's still GMA who has no biases but their reporters are new and boring

Binay: The one who cannot be named

http://politics.inquirer.net/politics/view/20110304-323367/Binay-The-one-who-cannot-be-named#



Agreed to that, madalas parang mga estudyante ang dating ng mga reporters. Parang hindi naiintindhan ang mga pinagsasabi nila. Para kasing ang dating, its all about the personality...
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Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 28, 2011 at 05:36 PM
In fairness to GMA, I think they are more on time recently when I checked local cable. Unlike ABS-CBN the news were late (midnight) instead of 11 PM. What makes them late, the stupid noontime shows again?
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Post by: bumblebee on Mar 28, 2011 at 05:39 PM
Nope, the stupid telenovelas.
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Post by: Dan on Mar 28, 2011 at 05:46 PM
Any network without Willie Revillame is the best for anyone.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Mar 28, 2011 at 05:49 PM
Nope, the stupid telenovelas.

Really? they don't know how much time a telenovela runs? or too much commercials?
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Post by: bumblebee on Mar 28, 2011 at 05:54 PM
Really? they don't know how much time a telenovela runs? or too much commercials?

They know. The question is why they're airing them at all.
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Post by: vinci on Mar 28, 2011 at 07:27 PM
^

like
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Post by: steelcrazy on Apr 07, 2011 at 05:16 PM
Too much endorsement and commercials flood both networks, its too tiring most of the time watching the programs of both channels.
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Post by: dj on Apr 07, 2011 at 05:46 PM
abs-cbn

why?

sa morning nakikita ko lagi si pinky webb ;)

sa lunch si anne curtis :)

sa evening si angel locsin(dating kapuso) :)
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Post by: Dan 'Boss' Green on Apr 07, 2011 at 06:29 PM
The networks have the capability to bring forth worthwhile shows as seen with QTV and ANC. Why do they have to assume that the only way to make money is to bring down entertainment in its lowest form (kajologan) to be appreciated by the masses. if they only see the masses as uneducated fools who crave for crossdressing boys who put on ghastly make-up and dance erotically on primetime, then f&ck them all.
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Post by: Jerricson098 on Apr 12, 2011 at 04:36 PM
This clearly a big debate, but I'll go to GMA
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Post by: Tempter on Apr 13, 2011 at 08:50 AM
The networks have the capability to bring forth worthwhile shows as seen with QTV and ANC. Why do they have to assume that the only way to make money is to bring down entertainment in its lowest form (kajologan) to be appreciated by the masses. if they only see the masses as uneducated fools who crave for crossdressing boys who put on ghastly make-up and dance erotically on primetime, then f&ck them all.

Really? You appreciate QTV?  ;D

E parang extension lang ng GMA yan, walang pinagkaiba.

Kung ako tatanungin, mas ok ang Studio 23, kasi iba ang format/target audience kaysa ABS-CBN.

Sa QTV (GMA NEWS TV na ngaun), puro kajologan din naman ang palabas.  :D
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Post by: Blondie on Apr 13, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Between the two I prefer GMA not because they have a better programming but because in my place, ABS reception is not that good... back to GMA naman, wala na yatang maisip na story ang writer kasi ang mga tema ng storya puro agawan ng mga babae sa isang lalaki... nakakaumay na!! great relief na tuloy ang korean tv drama at least may mga twist ang mga storya...
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Post by: jerix on Apr 13, 2011 at 01:29 PM
Between the two I prefer GMA not because they have a better programming but because in my place, ABS reception is not that good... back to GMA naman, wala na yatang maisip na story ang writer kasi ang mga tema ng storya puro agawan ng mga babae sa isang lalaki... nakakaumay na!! great relief na tuloy ang korean tv drama at least may mga twist ang mga storya...

Sampalan, sigawan pa. They may not only know but these TV stations are slowly conditioning the mind of the viewers that such circumstances are normal. The dialogue and attitudes of the characters are sometimes mimicked by people who are exposed to such. Later they may discover that they have already adopted the same behavior. Sana ito ang e-stop ng MTRCB. The way I see it these do not contribute to the improvement of the Filipino culture.  :-[
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Post by: Tempter on Apr 13, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Sampalan, sigawan pa. They may not only know but these TV stations are slowly conditioning the mind of the viewers that such circumstances are normal. The dialogue and attitudes of the characters are sometimes mimicked by people who are exposed to such. Later they may discover that they have already adopted the same behavior. Sana ito ang e-stop ng MTRCB. The way I see it these do not contribute to the improvement of the Filipino culture.  :-[

TV or not, these are things happening in reality. Minsan medyo OA lang, pero based on reality. Meron din namang mga palabas na nagbibigay aral. I'm sure hindi kayo nanonood ng mga ito dahil nakacondition na yung isip nyo na ganon na lahat...
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Post by: Dan 'Boss' Green on Apr 14, 2011 at 07:34 PM
Really? You appreciate QTV?  ;D

E parang extension lang ng GMA yan, walang pinagkaiba.

ah ganun ba? barado na hindi tlaga ako nanunuod ng tv.  ;D
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Post by: gerardhamada on Apr 15, 2011 at 09:41 PM
GMA ako obvious kasi bias ng ABS CBN kay PNOY eh
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Post by: AshKetchum on May 25, 2011 at 01:25 PM
Someone should tell those ABS-CBN newscasters that they look really stupid seated side-by-side with 2 laptops and an iPad in front of them. Do they have some kind of product placement deal with Apple?  ::)

A laptop is still somewhat acceptable, but having an iPad on a stand in front of you while announcing the news looks freaking hilarious. :D 
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Post by: Wildfire™ on May 25, 2011 at 03:16 PM
GMA kasi kahit ewalang cable malinaw channel nila  :D
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Post by: gerardhamada on May 25, 2011 at 09:46 PM
GMA hindi masyado obvious ang bias sa politika unlike ABS
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Post by: rusty on May 25, 2011 at 09:55 PM


I chose secret option C :  I'd rather watch a Nollywood movie marathon than watch ABS/GMA's primetime sheetfest.
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Post by: eckxs on May 27, 2011 at 01:49 AM
GMA sa news.

Pero sa shows ABS- CBN. Haha.
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Post by: conquerorsaint on Jul 14, 2011 at 03:43 PM
Someone should tell those ABS-CBN newscasters that they look really stupid seated side-by-side with 2 laptops and an iPad in front of them. Do they have some kind of product placement deal with Apple?  ::)

A laptop is still somewhat acceptable, but having an iPad on a stand in front of you while announcing the news looks freaking hilarious. :D  

onga e tapos parang naging open forum pa sila pag-uusapan pa nila yung recent news item, diba dapat maghatid lang sila ng news sa halip na mag-express ng opinions nila. tapos babasahin pa nila ung mga feedback sa twitter/fb nila. eating up airtime unnecessarily e pwede naman nila i-scroll throughout the program na lang.

On-Topic, GMA ako mostly
(+) Saksi, Bubble Gang, Pepito Manaloto, Party Pilipinas, Ghost Fighter, better more likeable celebrities than ABS, they actually make different attempts instead of teleseryes thru fantaseryes/epic-seryes, etc(not that i watch them)
(-) Kap's Amazing Stories (srsly bakit kelangan pa nya mag-host dapat bawal sa senador yan conflict of interests)

ABS-CBN
(+)SNN, Bandila
(-)Boy Abunda, Melason, Kris Aquino, Vice Ganda, Kamag-anak Inc, usual telenovelas at night.
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Post by: anya618 on Oct 23, 2011 at 11:04 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/26405/abs-cbn-grabs-lead-in-metro-manila-ratings
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Post by: anya618 on Dec 05, 2011 at 08:11 PM
sino ba talaga number 1? ;D

http://business.inquirer.net/33629/gma-abs-both-claim-ratings-lead
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Post by: eckxs on Dec 10, 2011 at 02:32 AM
Basta pag news GMA na yan! hehe.
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Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM
kapuso dahil sa eat bulaga
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Post by: BusyChild on Dec 10, 2011 at 12:11 PM
kapuso dahil sa eat bulaga

+1. Same here.
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Post by: anya618 on Dec 27, 2011 at 07:45 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/37289/gma7-tv5-deny-merger-rumors
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2011 at 07:59 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/37289/gma7-tv5-deny-merger-rumors

if the merger happens it only means ABS is indeed the best
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Dec 27, 2011 at 10:37 PM
For a businessman like MVP, GMA is more profitable than ABS-CBN.
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Post by: Tempter on Dec 27, 2011 at 10:57 PM
For a businessman like MVP, GMA is more profitable than ABS-CBN.

And there's no way that ABS will join force with TV5.  ;D

There's no need...  :D
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Post by: foxjj on Dec 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM
ABS-CBN for me... ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 05, 2012 at 10:34 PM
GMA, ABS-CBN claim top spot

http://business.inquirer.net/38411/gma-abs-cbn-claim-top-spot

sino ba talaga? abc5 na nga lang  :D
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Post by: monsterrific08 on Jan 05, 2012 at 10:43 PM
ABS-CBN, really.  :) ;) :D ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 10, 2012 at 09:38 PM
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’  ::)
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Post by: blitzkrieg on Jan 10, 2012 at 09:51 PM
 ;D ETC 14
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Post by: BusyChild on Jan 10, 2012 at 10:37 PM
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’  ::)

Yippeeeee!!!! Yeheeeeey!!!
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 13, 2012 at 09:15 AM
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’  ::)

hanggang jan 31 na lang ito
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Post by: BusyChild on Jan 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM
hanggang jan 31 na lang ito

May itatapat na ba sila sa Eat Bulaga?
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM
May itatapat na ba sila sa Eat Bulaga?

showtime ata ang papalit sa time slot
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Post by: zeemoh on Jan 25, 2012 at 09:11 AM
ABS-CBN the Best!
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 25, 2012 at 06:18 PM
malapit na rin pala masibak ang ‘Happy, Yipee, Yehey!’  ::)

yehey sa wakas hehehehe

ilagay ba naman si pokwang at rico j puno, jon estrada also
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 25, 2012 at 06:19 PM
showtime ata ang papalit sa time slot

ginawa na nila dati

mahirap na pataubin yung katapat sa 7
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Post by: Tempter on Jan 25, 2012 at 07:20 PM
as usual chizmaks lang : ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 25, 2012 at 08:18 PM
ginawa na nila dati

mahirap na pataubin yung katapat sa 7

baka isama rin nila si iza calzado kakalipat lang  ::)
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 25, 2012 at 08:25 PM
baka isama rin nila si iza calzado kakalipat lang  ::)

pwede isasama sa Showtime baka nga sakali hehehehe
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Post by: zeemoh on Jan 27, 2012 at 06:41 PM
ginawa na nila dati

mahirap na pataubin yung katapat sa 7

agree! Piratahin na lang nila ung EB sa gma... :D
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Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 27, 2012 at 09:47 PM
i like abs because of maja,  jessie mendiola, and angel locsin.. Sa gma i like the documentaries, but not the news parang OA kasi minsan, esp mike eriquez, Mas gusto ko ung channel news tv nila, simple lng..  :)
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 06, 2012 at 06:47 AM
ABS-CBN tops primetime race, 2 research firms say

http://business.inquirer.net/43203/abs-cbn-tops-primetime-race-2-research-firms-say

sa abs sila number 1, sa gma sila rin number 1 ;D
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Post by: Tempter on Feb 06, 2012 at 10:51 AM
agree! Piratahin na lang nila ung EB sa gma... :D

E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D

Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako...  :D
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Post by: BusyChild on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Eat Bulaga or It's Showtime?
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Eat Bulaga or It's Showtime?

kelangan pa ba itanong yan? sino ba nasa showtime?  ::)
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Post by: BusyChild on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:11 AM
FEB ako.... Forever Eat Bulaga!  ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:15 AM
FEB ako.... Forever Eat Bulaga!  ;D

ung nasa showtime, isa sa annoying tv personalities ;D
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Post by: BusyChild on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:17 AM
ung nasa showtime, isa sa annoying tv personalities ;D

Sir, hindi ko napanood openning nila..... may bago ba silang offer? Or same old, same old?
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Sir, hindi ko napanood openning nila..... may bago ba silang offer? Or same old, same old?

di rin ako nanonood ng showtime eh ;D
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Post by: beknat on Feb 09, 2012 at 01:54 PM
ika nga ni Bossing

"Bulaga Bigtime"
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2012 at 03:53 PM
nung Happy Yippee Yehey pa, pag commercial sa Eat Bulaga, nililipat ko sa HYY, may mga segemtns din kase na ok eh at ok sa akin si Tony G na host, pero ngayon, kahit commercial EB nag tyaga na lang ako mag intay  ;D ;D
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Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 11, 2012 at 09:02 AM
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D

Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako...  :D

Eh bakit kaya sila ang longest running noon time variety show?
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Post by: Tempter on Feb 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Eh bakit kaya sila ang longest running noon time variety show?

siguro dahil karamihan sa pinoy wala pa rin pinagbago?  ;D
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Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 11, 2012 at 10:24 AM
siguro dahil karamihan sa pinoy wala pa rin pinagbago?  ;D

Well maybe...
But I think some of our fellow pdvd members here still enjoys their humor and entertainment, including me...
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Post by: natosan on Feb 11, 2012 at 11:23 AM
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D

Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako...  :D

I think tinanggal ng abs ang EB because they can make more money producing their own noontime show. Ang EB kasi under TAPE productions kasi and naka-block time arrangement ata lang sila with GMA.
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Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I think tinanggal ng abs ang EB because they can make more money producing their own noontime show. Ang EB kasi under TAPE productions kasi and naka-block time arrangement ata lang sila with GMA.

Yup. Parang ganito nga ang scenario noon. ABS-CBN wanted to buy EB rights from TAPE but TAPE refused kaya EB went to GMA.
Gusto ng ABS-CBN na mas kumita ng malaki than just selling airtime to TAPE...
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Post by: anya618 on Mar 05, 2012 at 06:20 AM
Rival TV stations claim top ratings (http://business.inquirer.net/47491/rival-tv-stations-claim-top-ratings) ::)
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Post by: neilc on Mar 05, 2012 at 07:18 AM
E di ba tinanggal nga ng ABS ang EB dahil sa panis at laos na slapstick jokes? :D

Pinalitan sila dahil mga gurang na sila at ang style walang pinagbago simula nung magkamuwang ako...  :D

Sa tingin mo sino mas maraming pera, si Willie or si Vic Sotto? Ilan taon ka na ba dude?
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Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 05, 2012 at 07:31 AM
Sa tingin mo sino mas maraming pera, si Willie or si Vic Sotto? Ilan taon ka na ba dude?
LOL  ;D
(no pun Tempter, natawa lang ako sa reply ni neilc :D )
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Post by: puffalan84 on Mar 05, 2012 at 07:38 AM
Sa tingin mo sino mas maraming pera, si Willie or si Vic Sotto? Ilan taon ka na ba dude?

for me, mas marami pera si willie..  ;)
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Post by: anya618 on Mar 05, 2012 at 11:24 AM
‘Eat Bulaga’ clobbers ‘It’s Showtime’ (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/switchingchannels/eat-bulaga-clobbers-showtime-092115515.html;_ylt=Al_MXEbVHd.GbnTYOs.5W6PiV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0ZTk0MjRiBG1pdANTZWN0aW9uIExpc3QgRlAgT01HBHBrZwMyODMzNzVkNi1jYjZhLTMzNTMtYWU4My1jNTAwZGU1YmY2MDEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhU2VjdGlvbkxpc3QEdmVyAzE4NjYxOTAwLTY0NDktMTFlMS1iN2JlLTE1YmE5M2E2NTg3YQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODFoMGdmBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3)
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Post by: Philander on Mar 05, 2012 at 11:39 AM
‘Eat Bulaga’ clobbers ‘It’s Showtime’ (http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/switchingchannels/eat-bulaga-clobbers-showtime-092115515.html;_ylt=Al_MXEbVHd.GbnTYOs.5W6PiV8d_;_ylu=X3oDMTQ0ZTk0MjRiBG1pdANTZWN0aW9uIExpc3QgRlAgT01HBHBrZwMyODMzNzVkNi1jYjZhLTMzNTMtYWU4My1jNTAwZGU1YmY2MDEEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhU2VjdGlvbkxpc3QEdmVyAzE4NjYxOTAwLTY0NDktMTFlMS1iN2JlLTE1YmE5M2E2NTg3YQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTFvODFoMGdmBGludGwDcGgEbGFuZwNlbi1waARwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25zBHRlc3QD;_ylv=3)

Napaka one sided naman nung story. Halatang super in favor sa EB.

EB may be an institution already. But the fact that ABS-CBN has tons of business (ie. Meralco, Sky, Maynilad, TFC, etc) they have more power and control.
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Post by: ex8 on Mar 13, 2012 at 08:09 AM
I watch more of ABS programs specially the news!
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Post by: bolong68 on Mar 13, 2012 at 08:23 AM
Napaka one sided naman nung story. Halatang super in favor sa EB.

EB may be an institution already. But the fact that ABS-CBN has tons of business (ie. Meralco, Sky, Maynilad, TFC, etc) they have more power and control.

fyi, wala na sa Lopezes ang Meralco, Maynilad, NLEX.  Nasa MVP group na
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Post by: macmacpogi on Mar 18, 2012 at 02:20 AM
both . . . hehehe  ;) ;) ;) dahil halos lahat na yata ng mga talent show sa network na yan nasalihan ko na . . . hahaha tumabo din ako ng pera jan ahihihii ;D ;D ;D . . . ito list . . .

abs-cbn
1. palaboy band - 15k weekly finalist
2. mr.suave - 20k monthly finalist
3. boracay baby - 10k weekly finalist
4. rap talastasan - 5k daily winner
5. ano ka hilo - 10k
6. sing a dunk - 10k pot
7. singing bee - elimanation lang talo ako sa priest na kalaban ko lakas manalangin ahahaha... 5k
8. totoy bibo - grand finalist , daily , weekly almost 35k esttimate lang
diko na matandaan iba

gma7
1. video okray - olats 5k
2. sa pula sa puti - group to 5k ata
3. grand finalist tunog tao 90k group kami ng mga batang tondo

at nafeature ako sa gma 7 sa eyewitness hahaha main topic ahahaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iva0AA5hbA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtywA6s4gmM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewspF4SUgnQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGV5KjEwCEM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmEC1xcqHo&feature=related

ahahahaha . . .
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Post by: monsterrific08 on Mar 27, 2012 at 12:30 PM
both . . . hehehe  ;) ;) ;) dahil halos lahat na yata ng mga talent show sa network na yan nasalihan ko na . . . hahaha tumabo din ako ng pera jan ahihihii ;D ;D ;D . . . ito list . . .

abs-cbn
1. palaboy band - 15k weekly finalist
2. mr.suave - 20k monthly finalist
3. boracay baby - 10k weekly finalist
4. rap talastasan - 5k daily winner
5. ano ka hilo - 10k
6. sing a dunk - 10k pot
7. singing bee - elimanation lang talo ako sa priest na kalaban ko lakas manalangin ahahaha... 5k

Cool naman :)
8. totoy bibo - grand finalist , daily , weekly almost 35k esttimate lang
diko na matandaan iba

gma7
1. video okray - olats 5k
2. sa pula sa puti - group to 5k ata
3. grand finalist tunog tao 90k group kami ng mga batang tondo

at nafeature ako sa gma 7 sa eyewitness hahaha main topic ahahaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iva0AA5hbA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtywA6s4gmM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewspF4SUgnQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGV5KjEwCEM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gmEC1xcqHo&feature=related

ahahahaha . . .

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Post by: rusty on Apr 15, 2012 at 02:06 AM
Bad year for TV as ABS-CBN net income drops 25%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3821-bad-year-for-tv-as-abs-cbn-net-income-drops-25

GMA-7 net income in 2011 plummets 39%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3649-gma-7-net-income-in-2011-plummets-39
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Post by: anya618 on Apr 15, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Bad year for TV as ABS-CBN net income drops 25%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3821-bad-year-for-tv-as-abs-cbn-net-income-drops-25

GMA-7 net income in 2011 plummets 39%
http://www.rappler.com/business/3649-gma-7-net-income-in-2011-plummets-39

tapos pareho daw sila number 1 ::)
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Post by: coastal on Apr 18, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Parang nakita ko si Daiana Menezes sa Umagang Kay Ganda. Transferee na rin ba siya? Tapos lumitaw na si Zaida sa isang commercial ng Eat Bulaga.
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Post by: anya618 on May 17, 2012 at 06:13 AM
GMA 7 owners’ selling price: P100B

http://business.inquirer.net/59861/gma-7-owners%E2%80%99-selling-price-p100b
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Post by: rusty on Jul 09, 2012 at 07:58 AM
GMA7-TV5 deal price tag is P52.5-B: report

MANILA, Philippines - The group of businessman Manuel V. Pangilinan is close to sealing a deal estimated at P52.5 billion to purchase a controlling 80% stake in GMA Network Inc.

This was reported by the Inquirer on Monday, July 9, citing "several sources familiar with the discussions" on one of the most-expected deals in the country since it involves GMA-7, the second biggest media firm, and TV-5, the third biggest and chaired by Pangilinan.

Listed GMA Network is expected to comment on the report through a disclosure in the Philippine Stock Exchange.

Mediaquest Holdings Inc, the corporate vehicle typically used by the Pangilinan-led giant Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT), is the party that will effect the transaction, as was the case when the PLDT group bought other media assets in the past.

Inquirer said Pangilinan's group is in the process of organizing bank financing, equity shares for possible share swap, and the issuance of Philippine depository receipts. Pangilinan had said that the GMA-7 acquisition will likely be sealed this 2012 and that his group will pay cash to entice the GMA-7 controlling families.


http://www.rappler.com/business/8285-gma7-tv5-deal-price-tag-is-p52-5-b-report
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 09, 2012 at 08:00 AM
GMA7-TV5 deal price tag is P52.5-B: report

MANILA, Philippines - The group of businessman Manuel V. Pangilinan is close to sealing a deal estimated at P52.5 billion to purchase a controlling 80% stake in GMA Network Inc.

This was reported by the Inquirer on Monday, July 9, citing "several sources familiar with the discussions" on one of the most-expected deals in the country since it involves GMA-7, the second biggest media firm, and TV-5, the third biggest and chaired by Pangilinan.

Listed GMA Network is expected to comment on the report through a disclosure in the Philippine Stock Exchange.

Mediaquest Holdings Inc, the corporate vehicle typically used by the Pangilinan-led giant Philippine Long Distance Telephone Co. (PLDT), is the party that will effect the transaction, as was the case when the PLDT group bought other media assets in the past.

Inquirer said Pangilinan's group is in the process of organizing bank financing, equity shares for possible share swap, and the issuance of Philippine depository receipts. Pangilinan had said that the GMA-7 acquisition will likely be sealed this 2012 and that his group will pay cash to entice the GMA-7 controlling families.


http://www.rappler.com/business/8285-gma7-tv5-deal-price-tag-is-p52-5-b-report

pag nabili na ang gma7 ano na tawag sa mga talents nila? ;D
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Post by: Philander on Jul 09, 2012 at 08:16 AM
Di nila ma beat ang ABS? Hhehehhehe
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Post by: rusty on Jul 09, 2012 at 08:32 AM
pag nabili na ang gma7 ano na tawag sa mga talents nila? ;D

Kakampi  ;D

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Post by: mikz023 on Jul 09, 2012 at 09:05 AM
Magkano kaya price ng ABS CBN? At hindi na lng iyon ang binili ni MVP.?
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Post by: Tempter on Jul 09, 2012 at 01:31 PM
Magkano kaya price ng ABS CBN? At hindi na lng iyon ang binili ni MVP.?

I doubt it is for sale...  ;D
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Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 10, 2012 at 09:44 PM
I think ABS is killing GMA in primetime, I don't watch teleseryes but I heard good reviews sa TV shows ng 2, especially that Richard/Dawn show and Lorenzo's..  :)
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 11, 2012 at 05:38 AM
I think ABS is killing GMA in primetime, I don't watch teleseryes but I heard good reviews sa TV shows ng 2, especially that Richard/Dawn show and Lorenzo's..  :)

+1, mas magaling gumawa ng teleserye ang abs kesa gma
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Post by: Tempter on Jul 11, 2012 at 09:12 AM
I think ABS is killing GMA in primetime, I don't watch teleseryes but I heard good reviews sa TV shows ng 2, especially that Richard/Dawn show and Lorenzo's..  :)

That could probably be true, kaya nga sila nag-tatag team ng TV-5 just to bring down ABS.  ;D

In one word - DESPERATION.  :P
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 11, 2012 at 09:14 AM
That could probably be true, kaya nga sila nag-tatag team ng TV-5 just to bring down ABS.  ;D

In one word - DESPERATION.  :P

di rin ata nagrarate ang mga teleserye sa abc5 eh
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Post by: beknat on Jul 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Tv5 MVP: if you can't beat them, join them!
hahahaha...hindi na kaya nagsanib pwersa na.
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Post by: metrodvd on Aug 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM
kapamilya ako :D
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Post by: dcv1979 on Aug 14, 2012 at 12:06 PM
pag tanghali: GMA
pag news sa gabi: ABS
:D
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Post by: warmaster on Aug 14, 2012 at 01:46 PM
That could probably be true, kaya nga sila nag-tatag team ng TV-5 just to bring down ABS.  ;D

In one word - DESPERATION.  :P

it's more of a buy out than a tag team. ABC5 wants gma's market share and they can finally own GMA's roster of talents instead of just borrowing them
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Post by: puffalan84 on Aug 14, 2012 at 03:10 PM
it's more of a buy out than a tag team. ABC5 wants gma's market share and they can finally own GMA's roster of talents instead of just borrowing them
parang na wrong moved yta in acquiring TV5.. :)
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Post by: warmaster on Aug 15, 2012 at 07:36 AM
parang na wrong moved yta in acquiring TV5.. :)

back then GMA wasn't on the market and it may be a way for MVP to show how rich he really is. the the guy can afford impulse buying. he practically owns araneta coliseum now
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Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Has anyone noticed TV Patrol ends around 7:30 PM lately. Inigsian na yata nila show to 1 hour.
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Post by: anya618 on Oct 11, 2012 at 06:48 PM
Has anyone noticed TV Patrol ends around 7:30 PM lately. Inigsian na yata nila show to 1 hour.

late na sila naguumpisa eh. yung ch5 and 7 maaga ata magstart
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 06, 2013 at 09:50 PM
ABS-CBN, GMA 7 claim ratings lead (http://business.inquirer.net/101375/abs-cbn-gma-7-claim-ratings-lead)
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Post by: puffalan84 on Jul 15, 2013 at 08:13 PM
Watching abangan ang susunod na kabanata in jeepney tv, classic.. Dapat gantong sitcom ang ibalik nila..
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Post by: joelsoldao on Jul 16, 2013 at 02:32 AM
Wala ng magandang sitcom ngayon. Sa Channel 23 ako nanunuod ng mga classic sitcoms ng ABS.
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Post by: ATJr. on Jul 16, 2013 at 06:15 AM
for news and current affairs, sa GMA ako, for others ABS-CBN...
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Post by: Macmon on Jul 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Lately, I prefer Solar News since it is straight to the point with no hudge pudge.
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 16, 2013 at 10:06 AM
ako naman tv patrol lang pinapanood ko sa abs-cbn
Title: Re: ABS-CBN or GMA? Who's the Best for YOU?
Post by: the_w0rks on Jul 16, 2013 at 02:29 PM
every morning sa GMA ako for news. Dunno why. haha

though I like Bernadette Sembrano sa ABS, so I switch din pag nagcommercial sa GMA
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Post by: oweidah on Jul 16, 2013 at 03:24 PM
mutya ng masa doris b. Kapamilya'
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 04, 2013 at 08:01 PM
ABS-CBN barely ahead in ratings game, says GMA Network (http://business.inquirer.net/136503/abs-cbn-barely-ahead-in-ratings-game-says-gma-network)
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Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 04, 2013 at 08:44 PM
ABS-CBN kahit nuong nandyan pa kami,
medyo nababakyaan ako sa format and style ng GMA eh,...
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 04, 2013 at 08:45 PM
ABS-CBN kahit nuong nandyan pa kami,
medyo nababakyaan ako sa format and style ng GMA eh,...

nakakanood ka parin sir ngayon ng abs-cbn?
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Post by: newwaveboy on Aug 04, 2013 at 10:33 PM
I only watch these two channels for the primetime news and some documentaries.

I need to lower the volume down during GMA7's news telecast - as everyone knows, Mike Enriquez delivers the news as if the world is coming to an end.

As for ABS-CBN, they're less 'annoying' but for the longest time, has been negligent when it comes to delivering news about high-electricity rates ...... I wonder why ?  ;)

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Post by: sdsmds on Aug 04, 2013 at 11:04 PM
every morning sa GMA ako for news. Dunno why. haha

though I like Bernadette Sembrano sa ABS, so I switch din pag nagcommercial sa GMA
prang gumanda nga si bernadete last time i saw her sa tv mga wk ako. she's married right?
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Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 06, 2013 at 03:14 AM
nakakanood ka parin sir ngayon ng abs-cbn?

Yes sir,...
TFC subscriber here,...

 ^-^
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Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 06, 2013 at 03:17 AM
mutya ng masa doris b. Kapamilya'

I like her, masang masa ang dating nya ha,
and hindi OA magsalita,...
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 06, 2014 at 10:07 AM
ABS-CBN, GMA 7 claim ratings lead (http://business.inquirer.net/163176/abs-cbn-gma-7-claim-ratings-lead-2)
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Post by: rusty on Feb 26, 2014 at 11:42 PM
Unverified, sensationalized reporting
POSTED BY CMFR || 26 February 2014

JEERS TO ABS-CBN 2′s Bandila for blatantly violating the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas’ (KBP) Broadcast Code of the Philippines and the network’s own internal “Standards Ethics Manual” in a report about an alleged ‘flesh-eating’ disease that the same report said was “slowly spreading” (unti-unting kumakalat)  in the province of Pangasinan.

The first of a two- part ABS-CBN special report tagged #MisteryosongSakitsaBandila aired 24 February 2014 reported two cases of people with supposedly ‘mysterious’ (misteryoso) “skin and flesh-eating” diseases.

Bandila’s anchor Julius Babao in his spiel prior to the report proper said, “Isang misteryosong sakit ang unti-unting kumakalat ngayon sa Pangasinan, isang sakit na tila umano’y kumakain ng balat at laman ng tao … (A mysterious disease is slowly spreading in Pangasinan, a disease allegedly eating people’s skin and flesh)”

Bandila reporter Jasmin Romero was shown wearing medical scrubs, mask and gloves while interviewing two patients from the town of Sta Barbara and Villasis, Pangasinan.  According to the report, doctors could not tell what the patients’ ailments were.


Family members of the patients were interviewed. A medical official was also interviewed about the condition of a patient from Villasis town, who, among other statements, said the patient’s ailment was not psoriasis.

Bandila’s report was deliberately sensationalized, and the reporter did not interview any other source.   The result was panic among Netizens that spread to other people around the country.

The story was in violation of ABS-CBN’s own “Standards Ethics Manual” Responsibilities to the Public Sections, which declare that the news must “(i) avoid needless pain and offense; (iv) Avoid sensationalism and hype; (v.) Seek clear, unambiguous accounts of facts; and, (vi) Be on alert for spin and other forms of media manipulation.”

The report also violates the KBP’s 2007 Broadcast Code of the Philippines, Article 1 Section 9.c of which states that “The presentation of news and commentaries must not be done in a way that would create unnecessary panic or alarm.”

Full
http://www.cmfr-phil.org/2014/02/26/unverified-sensationalized-reporting/


Parang masyadong ng bumaba ang journalistic standards ng ABS-CBN News simula ng mag-resign si Maria Ressa nuong 2010.  :-\
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Post by: tony on Feb 27, 2014 at 07:12 AM
both networks are just as guilty of sensationalism....
the ratings war and therefore advertisement war is the root cause...
public service to them is like movie film making, all about making money....

that is the reason i am now looking at Solar news more these days...
solid journalism, just like they did during pre martial law days' channel 5,
the Big News anchored by Bong Lapira and later on by Jose Mari Velez
delivered credible and non sensationalized solid reporting....
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Post by: tenderfender on Feb 27, 2014 at 07:42 AM
yang si jasmin romero, aiming to be the next abscbn queen -- aral kay ate koring at karen davila

kaya rin nasipa si alex santos (co-host ni taberna sa UKG) dahil kuryente rin sa 2 part semsationalized reporting. nadamay c kabayan kaya pinatigbak tuloy ni noli.
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Post by: tony on Feb 27, 2014 at 08:44 AM
Karen Davila is awesome.......beauty and brains....she makes more sense than ate Koring....
Ted Failon is more intellectual than kABAYAN, sorry to say, kabayan i think has been tainted....
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 27, 2014 at 11:14 AM
Listen how Kabayang Noli asks questions, it has already been told by the newscaster yet he still finds to reiterate the obvious. What a total f*cker, I just hope the viewers are smart enough to discern what they're driving at.

Even CNN has gone down sensational journalism. These two are fallen victims of that format.
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Post by: tony on Feb 27, 2014 at 11:26 AM
they would rather use the word "bumagsak ang rating" rather than say nabawasan ang rating....this is the height of sensationalism.....
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 28, 2014 at 02:43 PM
(http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2014/02/618x348xbandila-screen-grab-660x371.jpg.pagespeed.ic.6EkriqyoBG.jpg)

News program apologizes for flesh-eating hoax (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/581225/news-program-apologizes-for-flesh-eating-hoax)
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Post by: krets pulpol on May 05, 2014 at 06:22 PM
Ang, Gozon confirm talks over GMA Network

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/business/05/05/14/ang-gozon-confirm-talks-over-gma-network

GMA Network Q1 profit plunges 46 pct

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/05/14/gma-network-q1-profit-plunges-46-pct

Looks like GMA is losing income, ratings and talents.
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Post by: sirhc on May 28, 2014 at 04:52 PM
Yup, according to an GMA 7 insider, only eat bulaga! and their news and public affairs department are what makes them stay afloat. ABS-CBN is beating them virtually in all slots..
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Post by: tony on May 28, 2014 at 07:07 PM
ABS-CBN rules in the talent division, they have the strongest stable of actors and actresses,
they start with "going Bulilit" then to Luv U, then to the teledramas.....they have more home grown singers now...

but the GMA's news and public affairs is way better than that of ABS-CBN's....
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Post by: frootloops on May 28, 2014 at 07:18 PM
News program apologizes for flesh-eating hoax (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/581225/news-program-apologizes-for-flesh-eating-hoax)

Ito dapat hoax din...

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/27/14/erap-richest-metro-manila-mayor-binay-among-poorest
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Post by: sirhc on May 28, 2014 at 09:13 PM
Ito dapat hoax din...

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/27/14/erap-richest-metro-manila-mayor-binay-among-poorest

LOL at this one!  ;D
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Post by: frootloops on Jun 24, 2014 at 11:46 AM
GMA owners to sell ‘minority’ stake to Ramon Ang  (http://www.rappler.com/business/industries/172-telecommunications-media/61414-gma-sell-ramon-ang?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral)
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Post by: steelcrazy on Jun 24, 2014 at 02:52 PM
30% will be sold to Ramon Ang from shares of Gozon, Duavit, and Jimenez for 16B.
Atty Felipe Gozon will remain CEO.
Ramon Ang will be the biggest share holder but under agreement, the 3 original owners will be united thus still owns the majority.
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Post by: Tempter on Jun 24, 2014 at 04:08 PM
30% will be sold to Ramon Ang from shares of Gozon, Duavit, and Jimenez for 16B.
Atty Felipe Gozon will remain CEO.
Ramon Ang will be the biggest share holder but under agreement, the 3 original owners will be united thus still owns the majority.

Sunod jan si Atong Ang na... ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 02, 2014 at 08:50 PM
Jessica Soho Retires as GMA-7 VP for News (http://www.fashionpulis.com/2014/07/jessica-soho-retires-as-gma-7-vp-for.html)
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Post by: coastal on Jul 03, 2014 at 09:04 AM
Di kaya isa yan sa mga concessions ni Ang?
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Post by: irmscher on Jul 28, 2014 at 01:01 PM
geeeeeeeeez. read the first two pages of this thread until I had to skip to the last page...

network wars....THIS IS SERIOUS crap, PEOPLE!!!   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Tempter on Jul 28, 2014 at 08:46 PM
geeeeeeeeez. read the first two pages of this thread until I had to skip to the last page...

network wars....THIS IS SERIOUS crap, PEOPLE!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Why bother comment then??? ;D
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Post by: splucktearse on Aug 06, 2014 at 03:48 PM
kapuso all the way. i specially like the gma news tv. the documentaries, which before were aired only at night on gma 7, are now available during daytime on this channel.
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 15, 2014 at 09:17 AM
Ang on the verge of sealing GMA deal (http://business.inquirer.net/176669/ang-on-the-verge-of-sealing-gma-deal)
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Post by: krets pulpol on Feb 02, 2015 at 01:24 PM
Di ko yata nakikita si Korina sa TV Patrol, suspended?
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Post by: Hitman on Feb 02, 2015 at 02:08 PM
Naka leave daw! Pero suspended yun dahil sa mga remarks niya about typhoon. Pero nung papal coverage present siya.
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Post by: anya618 on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:08 AM
GMA, ABS-CBN claim ratings lead (http://business.inquirer.net/192957/gma-abs-cbn-claim-ratings-lead)
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Post by: coastal on Jun 07, 2015 at 08:30 AM
Sign of the times

http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/06/fb-scoop-unpaid-gma-employees-protest.html
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Post by: coastal on Jun 09, 2015 at 08:57 AM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/06/insta-scoop-melai-cantiveros-is-your.html

Niluto???
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Post by: anya618 on Jun 09, 2015 at 09:01 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DTkj3j2gnmY/VXW3eS-3aFI/AAAAAAABL94/9bMonlBi4_s/s640/Screenshot_2015-06-08-23-33-36.png)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4F9wj1oxkrs/VXW3eo-txAI/AAAAAAABL98/g7f6F7RqO80/s640/Screenshot_2015-06-08-23-33-46.png)
MTRCB Summons ABS-CBN Executives to Explain Controversial Dialogue in Pangako Sa 'Yo
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Post by: Tempter on Jun 09, 2015 at 09:06 AM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/06/insta-scoop-melai-cantiveros-is-your.html

Niluto???

Parang PACMAN - MAYWEATHER? Sourgraping din? ;D
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Post by: coastal on Aug 16, 2015 at 07:44 AM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/08/spotted-aldub-phenomenon-abs-cbns-tv.html
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Post by: tony on Aug 16, 2015 at 02:36 PM
block timer lang din sila tito, vic at joey sa gma, hindi sila talent ng station....
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Post by: coastal on Aug 19, 2015 at 07:03 AM
(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/jeosison/FullSizeRender_zps3iktu1da.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jeosison/media/FullSizeRender_zps3iktu1da.jpg.html)

Hanep!
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 19, 2015 at 09:48 AM
(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/jeosison/FullSizeRender_zps3iktu1da.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jeosison/media/FullSizeRender_zps3iktu1da.jpg.html)

Hanep!

Hanep nga! Although unbelievable... or much appropriate term is "unrealistic".
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Post by: tony on Aug 19, 2015 at 11:00 AM
Eat Bulaga is a block timer, they may as well change stations, say channel 5 and then what?
GMA's talents are going kapamilya....
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM
Eat Bulaga is a block timer, they may as well change stations, say channel 5 and then what?
GMA's talents are going kapamilya....

Actually, they are already doing that...

EB lang naman talaga nagdadala ngayon sa GMA. Kaya wala silang lakas ng loob to do anything about EB dahil pag umalis yan, they go down the drain. ;D
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Post by: frootloops on Aug 19, 2015 at 08:52 PM
Lakas talaga ng EB!

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a616/estuardela02/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdhh6dfzg.jpg)
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 20, 2015 at 12:22 AM
Karen Davila is awesome.......beauty and brains....she makes more sense than ate Koring....
Ted Failon is more intellectual than kABAYAN, sorry to say, kabayan i think has been tainted....

I know someone who knows Karen Davila personally and he swears that this lady is not how she projects to be
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Aug 20, 2015 at 06:23 AM
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.
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Post by: doasmarx on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:02 AM
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.


+100
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:15 AM
I know someone who knows Karen Davila personally and he swears that this lady is not how she projects to be

hhhmmm, i am all ears....:D
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 20, 2015 at 09:56 AM
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.

I think it is the other way around, the stations are banking on the dumbness of the masses... ;D
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Post by: luis on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:06 AM
I equally dislike both. They continuously contribute to dumbing down the masses every single day.

good morning. what do you suggest in terms of not dumbing the massess sir?   ;D
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Post by: Hitman on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:06 AM
Anong chika about karen?
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Post by: ABCmotorparts on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:14 AM
ABS CBN na lang,
Medyo bakya ang mga palabas at newscasting ng GMA eh,... Hehehe
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:22 AM
good morning. what do you suggest in terms of not dumbing the massess sir?   ;D

;D
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:22 AM
ABS CBN na lang,
Medyo bakya ang mga palabas at newscasting ng GMA eh,... Hehehe

Passsooookkkk!!! ;D
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 12:05 PM
ABS CBN na lang,
Medyo bakya ang mga palabas at newscasting ng GMA eh,... Hehehe

bakya ako...gusto ko ang public affairs ng GMA, mas maraming variety kaysa ABS....
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Post by: Philander on Aug 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM
Bakyang bakya pati Aldub esp Wally bakyang bakya
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 12:47 PM
bakya crowd...napakarami namin......:D

can't argue with success. the show gives over 50k pesos to a lucky viewer everyday....
can you fault the bakya crowd for loving the show? >:D
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Post by: Quitacet on Aug 20, 2015 at 01:00 PM
okay lang naman yang aldub fever pero para pag-usapan kahit saan?

nagmimeeting kami minsan, isang pocket conversation ay tungkol kay aldub.

deym

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Post by: Philander on Aug 20, 2015 at 01:05 PM
bakya crowd...napakarami namin......:D

can't argue with success. the show gives over 50k pesos to a lucky viewer everyday....
can you fault the bakya crowd for loving the show? >:D

No need to find fault.

Bakyang bakya, eh sana lang  aasesso ang buhay ng pinoy dahil sa kabakyaan na yan, then wala akong reklamo.

Manood ng bakya kaysa maging productive. Maging financial literate pero unahin ang kabakyaan na yan.
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Post by: pTrader on Aug 20, 2015 at 01:12 PM
ok lang bakya, bakya is very nationalistic.. Pilipinong Pilipino yung bakya..

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Post by: bumblebee on Aug 20, 2015 at 01:46 PM
okay lang naman yang aldub fever pero para pag-usapan kahit saan?

nagmimeeting kami minsan, isang pocket conversation ay tungkol kay aldub.

deym



Sa amin naman, si Ryan Rems. Aywan ko ba.
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Post by: Tempter on Aug 20, 2015 at 04:00 PM
No need to find fault.

Bakyang bakya, eh sana lang  aasesso ang buhay ng pinoy dahil sa kabakyaan na yan, then wala akong reklamo.

Manood ng bakya kaysa maging productive. Maging financial literate pero unahin ang kabakyaan na yan.

This, I have to agree... ;)

Tapos aasa tayo na uunlad ang Pilipinas. ;D
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:03 PM
umuunlad naman ang Pinas eh...tignan nyo yung mga billionaires natin, patuloy na umuunlad....
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Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:23 PM
I know Karen Davila personally and can attest she is a decent person.
Very simple despite the fame.
Might have followed her emotion/Love over her mind in her younger days but who among us have not done than. Moreover, they are still together until this time so maybe it was really Love after all.
 
At this time she is a mother more than anything else and is willing to sacrifice her career to be with her child once a cure becomes available.

I know someone who knows Karen Davila personally and he swears that this lady is not how she projects to be
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:33 PM
yes, i heard that story before....akala ko meron pang iba....and i will not judge her for that....
Karen is simply awesome and not just because of her looks, she is stunning.....
i would say in the same league as Loren Legarda when it comes to intellect if not better.....
people like Karen are what we need in government....
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Post by: razorcab on Aug 20, 2015 at 07:54 PM
Wow! napaka high standard pala nang mga pinoydvd members! aldub bakya!? wally bakya?! TVJ bakya?! sa kabilang station meron din naman mga bakya ah! Bakla pa nga yung isa!

oo nga naman sayang naman yung mamahalin mong LED TV at HT kung local stations ang papanoorin mo, bakya nga kasi.

Ba't di ka nalang kaya umalis nang Pinas? tutal hindi naman ata kayo kailangan nang bayan, baka nga half-half ka pa, at nagpapayaman lang sa pinas o feeling mayaman lang?!

Pero nang dahil sa mga bakyang programa na yan may napag uusapan tayo diba? nag bigay ka pa nga nang konting time at data bandwidth nang net mo nung nag post ka dito eh, diba? At dahil din sa mga bakyang programa na yan nakalimutan mo ang pinag aralan mo, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan kung bakit hindi maunlad ang bansa natin? diba? ang mga politiko ang may kasalanan! diba? baka nga yung ibang politiko na dahilan nang kahirapan eh kamag-anak nung mga iba diyan.

Kaya meron bakya programs at bakya crowd ay dahil masnakakarami ang mahirap kaysa mayaman sa Pinas, at hindi dahil sa isa kayo sa mayayaman (o mayayabang) eh, maari nyo nang lait-laitin ang mahihirap (bakya). At dahil din sa bakya crowd, yumaman ang mga idolo niyong artista at programa.

Baka nasosobrahan na kayo sa mga Bluray Hollywood Movies kaya di nyo na ma-appreciate ang simple bakya love story o comedy!

Wow! Ang lalabo nyo naman! Di na kayo maabot! (speaking ala babalu)

BABALA! (asawa ni... BABALU!) wag magpakalasing sa kasosyalan.... kung di mo matiis... umalis ka nang bansa... di ka naman kawalan siguro!
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Post by: tony on Aug 20, 2015 at 08:10 PM
Quote
Bakla pa nga yung isa!

excuse me. hindi lang isa yan, marami sila....... >:D

saka chillax ka lang, wag mo masyadong seryosohin....
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Post by: coastal on Aug 20, 2015 at 08:21 PM
Taray! Tama si Sir Tony. Di naman para seryosohin ito.
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Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 20, 2015 at 08:35 PM
Wow! napaka high standard pala nang mga pinoydvd members! aldub bakya!? wally bakya?! TVJ bakya?! sa kabilang station meron din naman mga bakya ah! Bakla pa nga yung isa!

oo nga naman sayang naman yung mamahalin mong LED TV at HT kung local stations ang papanoorin mo, bakya nga kasi.

Ba't di ka nalang kaya umalis nang Pinas? tutal hindi naman ata kayo kailangan nang bayan, baka nga half-half ka pa, at nagpapayaman lang sa pinas o feeling mayaman lang?!

Pero nang dahil sa mga bakyang programa na yan may napag uusapan tayo diba? nag bigay ka pa nga nang konting time at data bandwidth nang net mo nung nag post ka dito eh, diba? At dahil din sa mga bakyang programa na yan nakalimutan mo ang pinag aralan mo, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan kung bakit hindi maunlad ang bansa natin? diba? ang mga politiko ang may kasalanan! diba? baka nga yung ibang politiko na dahilan nang kahirapan eh kamag-anak nung mga iba diyan.

Kaya meron bakya programs at bakya crowd ay dahil masnakakarami ang mahirap kaysa mayaman sa Pinas, at hindi dahil sa isa kayo sa mayayaman (o mayayabang) eh, maari nyo nang lait-laitin ang mahihirap (bakya). At dahil din sa bakya crowd, yumaman ang mga idolo niyong artista at programa.

Baka nasosobrahan na kayo sa mga Bluray Hollywood Movies kaya di nyo na ma-appreciate ang simple bakya love story o comedy!

Wow! Ang lalabo nyo naman! Di na kayo maabot! (speaking ala babalu)

BABALA! (asawa ni... BABALU!) wag magpakalasing sa kasosyalan.... kung di mo matiis... umalis ka nang bansa... di ka naman kawalan siguro!

Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?
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Post by: prototypeone on Aug 20, 2015 at 08:57 PM
Quote
Wow! napaka high standard pala nang mga pinoydvd members! aldub bakya!? wally bakya?! TVJ bakya?! sa kabilang station meron din naman mga bakya ah! Bakla pa nga yung isa!

oo nga naman sayang naman yung mamahalin mong LED TV at HT kung local stations ang papanoorin mo, bakya nga kasi.

Ba't di ka nalang kaya umalis nang Pinas? tutal hindi naman ata kayo kailangan nang bayan, baka nga half-half ka pa, at nagpapayaman lang sa pinas o feeling mayaman lang?!

Pero nang dahil sa mga bakyang programa na yan may napag uusapan tayo diba? nag bigay ka pa nga nang konting time at data bandwidth nang net mo nung nag post ka dito eh, diba? At dahil din sa mga bakyang programa na yan nakalimutan mo ang pinag aralan mo, hindi naman sila ang may kasalanan kung bakit hindi maunlad ang bansa natin? diba? ang mga politiko ang may kasalanan! diba? baka nga yung ibang politiko na dahilan nang kahirapan eh kamag-anak nung mga iba diyan.

Kaya meron bakya programs at bakya crowd ay dahil masnakakarami ang mahirap kaysa mayaman sa Pinas, at hindi dahil sa isa kayo sa mayayaman (o mayayabang) eh, maari nyo nang lait-laitin ang mahihirap (bakya). At dahil din sa bakya crowd, yumaman ang mga idolo niyong artista at programa.

Baka nasosobrahan na kayo sa mga Bluray Hollywood Movies kaya di nyo na ma-appreciate ang simple bakya love story o comedy!

Wow! Ang lalabo nyo naman! Di na kayo maabot! (speaking ala babalu)

BABALA! (asawa ni... BABALU!) wag magpakalasing sa kasosyalan.... kung di mo matiis... umalis ka nang bansa... di ka naman kawalan siguro!

Ano daw?  ;D
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Post by: d4nu65+3R on Aug 20, 2015 at 09:24 PM
so what's wrong with being bakya?  does watching the aldub phenom and laughing at wally's antics make me dumb?
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Post by: frootloops on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:06 PM
Registered today, unang banat Pinoy Entertainment.  Rock n roll to the world! Yeah!,...batak pa!  O0
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 20, 2015 at 10:07 PM
bakya crowd...napakarami namin......:D

can't argue with success. the show gives over 50k pesos to a lucky viewer everyday....
can you fault the bakya crowd for loving the show? >:D

more than 100k in fact sir tony, plus motorcycle, a truck of cement among many others.
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Post by: tony on Aug 21, 2015 at 06:47 AM
more than 100k in fact sir tony, plus motorcycle, a truck of cement among many others.

my daughter watches this show, i watch the national geographic, discovery and history channels most of the time, and cnn too....pero in the evening, kapamilya teleserye all the way...
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Post by: tony on Aug 21, 2015 at 06:50 AM
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?


naku, maraming ganyan, nasanay na ako sa ganyan, sa tipidpc ba meron ding ganyan?
ang masasabi ko lang, rock and roll to the world.....;)
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Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2015 at 07:04 AM
naku, maraming ganyan, nasanay na ako sa ganyan, sa tipidpc ba meron ding ganyan?
ang masasabi ko lang, rock and roll to the world.....;)

yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address.  ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D
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Post by: dpogs on Aug 21, 2015 at 07:10 AM
yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address.  ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D

ito ba iyong mga tinataas ang sarili nilang produkto? :):):)
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Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 21, 2015 at 07:17 AM
ito ba iyong mga tinataas ang sarili nilang produkto? :):):)
sorry di ko alam dito sa pdvd hehehe
pero oo malamang may gumawa na nyan ;D
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Post by: tony on Aug 21, 2015 at 07:37 AM
yup, mga loko pa yun iba parang di ko nakikita yung ip address.  ang nakakatuwa yung mga kumakausap sa sarili. ;D

yes, sa diyaudio, kita namin ang mga IP address, dyan nahuhuli ang mga sockpuppets, meron kaming puppet catcher, mahusay manghuli...ban agad, no questions asked, pag nag-register ulit, ban ulit....

meron akong bisita dati na taga elab, sabi nya gumawa sya ng two accounts sa isang forum, gamit ang magkaibang browser, nakakausap nya ang sarile nya, wala lang trip lang nya....

depende rin kasi sa forum, kung allowed ang multiple accounts tulad dito, pwede ngang mangyari yan, pinoy pa.... >:D
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Post by: neilc on Aug 21, 2015 at 08:16 AM
Local TV is the cheapest form of entertainment here in our country. You can't argue with that and the two networks are trying to get as much viewers. How?  Give them a chance to win something or give them something to ease their hardships by making them laugh.

Being "bakya" is a Filipino trait that is really okay with me.

My two cents guys.
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Post by: coastal on Aug 21, 2015 at 09:06 AM
Let's face it the bakya crowd dictates the shows on TV and that's what the networks do since yun talaga ang target audience nila. Otherwise Willie R would already been in oblivion. I don't watch regular TV except for the news or sports events. Anyway, there's always the remote if you don't want to view these so called bakya shows. Kapag nanuod nga yung mga officemates ko ng EB sa office tinutulugan ko lang.
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Post by: dpogs on Aug 21, 2015 at 10:27 AM
Office? Watching tv anf sleeping?

Parang gusto ko lumipat dyan ah. :-) :-)
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 21, 2015 at 10:30 AM
Office? Watching tv anf sleeping?

Parang gusto ko lumipat dyan ah. :-) :-)

baka lunch break  ^-^
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Post by: dpogs on Aug 21, 2015 at 10:41 AM
Ah oo nga pala.. Noontime show nga pala ang EB :-) :-)
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Post by: deist on Aug 21, 2015 at 11:22 AM
Every culture, though called in different ways has that "bakya" crowd, even the first world countries. Try watching local tv channels when travelling abroad and you will surely notice it. And most often, the "bakya" crowd is the loudest voice in the society because you know what they say; the empty cans rattle the most hehe
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Post by: bumblebee on Aug 21, 2015 at 12:16 PM
There's nothing wrong with bakya. Enjoy naman sila minsan, lalo when you're in the mood. The problem is that the networks offer nothing else.

Napakahirap bang gumawa ng show tulad ng batibot?
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Post by: rascal101 on Aug 21, 2015 at 01:04 PM
Exciting pala iyung Batibot
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Post by: dodie on Aug 21, 2015 at 01:20 PM
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?


hahahaha....tama naman ang sentimyento nya. bka nasosobrahan nga tayo sa pagpuna. ang mali lang walang lakas ng loob na magsalita na gamit ang totoong account. daig pa ni KLAUS. may paninindigan, kht halos lahat eh kontra sa paniniwala nya....tuloy lang! ;D ;D :) :)
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Post by: markcrenz on Aug 21, 2015 at 02:26 PM
Gawa ng bago account para mag reply dito?

ganun kabakya?  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: coastal on Aug 21, 2015 at 02:44 PM
baka lunch break  ^-^

Dapat.
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Post by: halvert on Aug 21, 2015 at 07:23 PM
Soap operas, abs cbn. Pero current affairs programs and comedy shows, gma. Pati ang eat bulaga. Mas impressed ako kina wally,(that is a story of redemption) jose at paolo kesa sa aldub pero kung napapasaya nito ang parents ko everyday, masaya rin ako.
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Post by: neilc on Aug 21, 2015 at 09:26 PM

Every culture, though called in different ways has that "bakya" crowd, even the first world countries. Try watching local tv channels when travelling abroad and you will surely notice it. And most often, the "bakya" crowd is the loudest voice in the society because you know what they say; the empty cans rattle the most hehe

Medyo off ka dyan bro in saying the empty cans rattle the most. Please don't generalize that all bakyas are empty. Daming naming bakya bro.
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Post by: deist on Aug 21, 2015 at 10:06 PM
Did you see the "Most often" at the start of my last sentence? Did I say that they always rattle like an empty can? If you are bakya and you don't rattle like an empty can then you shouldn't be offended. Don't make a big deal out of it. Like everyone else here, I am entitled to my own opinion.

Medyo off ka dyan bro in saying the empty cans rattle the most. Please don't generalize that all bakyas are empty. Daming naming bakya bro.
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Post by: neilc on Aug 22, 2015 at 11:29 AM

Did you see the "Most often" at the start of my last sentence? Did I say that they always rattle like an empty can? If you are bakya and you don't rattle like an empty can then you shouldn't be offended. Don't make a big deal out of it. Like everyone else here, I am entitled to my own opinion.

I'm not making a big deal out of it bro. If you found my post offensive to you then I'm sorry. Your "most often" was before the bakyas are the loudest and not before your comment on the empty cans. Most often, I think is also a generalization. Again, if it's not then I'm sorry.

Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion bro as long as you don't offend others in your opinion.

I consider myself a bakya because I watch soap operas with my wife and daughter, I have fun watching Aldub etc.

But I'm definitely not an empty can the last time I checked.

Again, I'm not trying to offend you here chief. I'm just emphasizing my point. Sorry if I had offended you.

Peace.
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Post by: coastal on Aug 23, 2015 at 08:28 AM
Weh di nga? Hirap paniwalaan nito kung totoo man

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/jeosison/viber%20image_zpsxkm4iuyp.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jeosison/media/viber%20image_zpsxkm4iuyp.jpg.html)
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Post by: Pandidoy on Aug 23, 2015 at 09:34 AM


Baka dahil din sa rambutan ni Wally ?  >:D >:D >:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdIqpHB5ppY

http://bandera.inquirer.net/100703/rambutan-ni-wally-agaw-eksena-sa-love-story-ng-aldub
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Post by: dts_hdma on Aug 23, 2015 at 09:49 AM
IMO, matagal ng linalamon ng EB yan. Mas natural kasi jokes ng EB kesa sa showtime kaya patok sa karamihan. Di naman sila aabot ng 36 years kung ayaw sila ng tao, kaya kahit ano itapat ng ABS wala lang. Maganda jan kunin na din nila ang EB, pera pera lang yan!  ;D >:D

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/533968/showbiz/chikaminute/aldubagainstallodds-aldubers-nagtala-ng-bagong-record-sa-dami-ng-tweet
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Post by: Philjonc on Aug 23, 2015 at 10:26 AM
Iba't ibang tao may kanya knyang humor, iba iba din ang type ng entertainment. Wala sa estado ng buhay ng tao yan. Di ko sila pinapanood, di ako mahilig sa teleserye di dahil bakya sila kundi dahil niinip ako. Isa lang pinanood kong teleserye, Marimar, hehe, simula nung nakita ko syang naka 2 piece sinundan ko na.
Para sa kin kung aldub lang malamang walang mangyari sa career nila, pero dahil may support sila from EB casts esp wally and jose kumalakas dating nila.
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Post by: coastal on Aug 23, 2015 at 03:24 PM
Para sa iyo ang laban na to!

(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/jeosison/IMG_20150822_222710_523_zpsw8twpjkd.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jeosison/media/IMG_20150822_222710_523_zpsw8twpjkd.jpg.html)

Di kaya mga network bigwigs ang tunay na bakya???
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Post by: tony on Aug 23, 2015 at 07:12 PM
Achtung!!!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11899969_996274953753370_1960221450475319912_n.jpg?oh=90c5226af93d2876b996683a3d382631&oe=5677A21F&__gda__=1446409622_da8e6e73fe82d33aa1067fc943951301)
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Post by: coastal on Aug 23, 2015 at 07:52 PM
(http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/ah69/jeosison/CM_s4BrUYAAB2kz_zpsthslolnt.jpg) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/jeosison/media/CM_s4BrUYAAB2kz_zpsthslolnt.jpg.html)

Hello Lola!
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 28, 2015 at 05:56 AM
GMA Files NTC Complaint vs. SkyCable for Signal Loss during Eat Bulaga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpcRyUPt8Vo
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Post by: coastal on Sep 05, 2015 at 09:01 AM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/09/ooops-did-production-forget-to-remove.html

Ano yun? Mossimo?
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 07, 2015 at 12:24 PM
(http://cdn3.coconutsmedia.com/styles/article_teaser_v2/s3/field/image/aldab.jpg)

eto daw panapat sa aldub  >:D
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 07, 2015 at 12:45 PM
^ orig aldab yan!  >:D

Mas mataas pa rating ng Ben10 ng channel 5 kesa sa Showtime nung sabado! Rock and roll! Lol!

http://pageone.ph/gma7s-aldub-is-a-phenomenal-hit-even-abs-cbn-agrees/
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Post by: halvert on Sep 07, 2015 at 02:30 PM
ang big story dito is the redemption fo wally bayola. siya talaga pinapanood ko dun, e!
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 09, 2015 at 05:10 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ocMxbXhuLwM/Ve_xc_nOEFI/AAAAAAABS9g/ffEGfrQfBek/s1600/viber%2Bimage.jpg)
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Post by: coastal on Sep 09, 2015 at 05:22 PM
Yan pala noong sabado. Walang masyadong trapik noon nung manggaling ako sa SM North papauwi.
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Post by: dyonge on Sep 10, 2015 at 03:38 PM
baka isang solusyon sa trapik palipat request natin sa rush hour ang time slot ng EB. ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 13, 2015 at 06:47 AM
hataw pati sa commercial, endorser na rin ang aldub ng mcdo and tnt
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Post by: coastal on Sep 13, 2015 at 07:54 AM
Yan pala noong sabado. Walang masyadong trapik noon nung manggaling ako sa SM North papauwi.

Oo nga pala. Light pa din yung traffic yesterday coming again from SM North.
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 19, 2015 at 09:16 AM
FB Scoop: Netizen Posts Proof of GMA7 Signal Disruption of TV Plus during It's Showtime!
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/09/fb-scoop-netizen-posts-proof-of-gma7.html
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 19, 2015 at 09:42 AM
Ganyan na ata talaga sila ka desperate... Napansin ko naman yung mcdo commercial sa ABS(puro cut) iba kesa sa GMA Mcdo commercial, yung TNT naman ni minsan di ko pa nakita sa ABS. hehe
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Post by: frootloops on Sep 19, 2015 at 10:55 PM
 ABS-CBN apologizes to UPLB students over erroneous Binay stories  (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/723611/abs-cbn-apologizes-to-uplb-students-over-erroneous-binay-stories#ixzz3mAnvvce0)

Sablay nanaman.... :D
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 23, 2015 at 05:46 AM
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/179296/aldub-mania-stirs-network-war-anew
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Post by: coastal on Sep 23, 2015 at 07:09 AM
Sabi nung iba bumili daw sila ng GMA TV plus ha ha ha!
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 23, 2015 at 07:14 AM
kung wala ang EB nasaan kaya ang GMA ngayon ? namulat ako sa TV, EB ang pinapanood ch.2 pa.

documentary news : gmanews 11
the rest : abs-cbn na :)

kapag nagkaroon na ng bangayan ang dalawang noontime show... pinagbabawalan ko na manood ng noontime show ang bahay :):):)

kaya alam ko na kung saan hahanapin kasambahay namin tuwing tanghali... nasa kapitbahay :):):)
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Post by: Tempter on Sep 23, 2015 at 11:30 AM
kung wala ang EB nasaan kaya ang GMA ngayon ? namulat ako sa TV, EB ang pinapanood ch.2 pa.

documentary news : gmanews 11
the rest : abs-cbn na :)

kapag nagkaroon na ng bangayan ang dalawang noontime show... pinagbabawalan ko na manood ng noontime show ang bahay :):):)

kaya alam ko na kung saan hahanapin kasambahay namin tuwing tanghali... nasa kapitbahay :):):)

Yeah, EB na lang ang gatasan nila... ;D
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Post by: deist on Sep 23, 2015 at 11:33 AM
Lagi naman ganyan ang news & current affairs ng abs, for local news I watch Jessica Soho's State of the Nation, plus of course the newcomer CNN.

ABS-CBN apologizes to UPLB students over erroneous Binay stories  (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/723611/abs-cbn-apologizes-to-uplb-students-over-erroneous-binay-stories#ixzz3mAnvvce0)

Sablay nanaman.... :D
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 25, 2015 at 01:23 PM
Mga sumikat na tandem

ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE

GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)

Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7  >:D
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 25, 2015 at 01:49 PM
Mga sumikat na tandem

ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE

GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)

Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7  >:D

Bro dpogs meron yun si Ding Dong Dantes and Marian Rivera di ba.... DongIan yata tawag.   ;D
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 25, 2015 at 01:54 PM
Bro dpogs meron yun si Ding Dong Dantes and Marian Rivera di ba.... DongIan yata tawag.   ;D

Di tandem tawag sa kanila... Taksil tawag sa kanila  >:D >:D >:D
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Post by: yapoy86 on Sep 25, 2015 at 02:41 PM
Aldub is not a GMA product.. so technically hindi kanila yan.. nakiki ride lang cla sa TAPE prod.  Kakainis nga wala na silang news kungdi aldub kasi yun lang meron sa kanila
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 25, 2015 at 07:21 PM
ABS loveteams vs aldub bukas. Ano kaya maging rating???
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Post by: coastal on Sep 26, 2015 at 09:37 AM
Ang lupit. One-sided sa twitter.
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Post by: frequenzy on Sep 26, 2015 at 10:31 AM
abs is really pulling all the stops, lahat ng sikat na loveteams will be on showtime. i wonder if aldub can pull it off, pagdating sa ratings.
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Post by: AC on Sep 26, 2015 at 10:34 AM
abs is just showing... how desperate they are
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 26, 2015 at 12:58 PM
abs is just showing... how desperate they are

When it comes to noontime shows, the rest of the day its still abs cbn lalo na kapag primetime.
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Post by: HD_MOVIES on Sep 26, 2015 at 02:35 PM
Mukang wrong move ang abs. ;D
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 26, 2015 at 03:30 PM
Ang lupit. One-sided sa twitter.

20M as of 3pm ang EB, from text capital to twitter capital na ang pinas!  ;D

Akalain mo nagtawag na lampaso pa din yung kabila.  :-X
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Post by: Columbia on Sep 26, 2015 at 03:38 PM
20M as of 3pm ang EB, from text capital to twitter capital na ang pinas!  ;D

Akalain mo nagtawag na lampaso pa din yung kabila.  :-X
I monitored my twitter feed about 30mins ago and abs cbn show's tweets suddenly dropped from 3M++ to 700K.. Why? Tweetbots?
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Post by: tony on Sep 26, 2015 at 05:05 PM
aba, meron din palang dagdag-bawas sa tweets....only in the pinas.....
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Post by: VenoM_Unleashed on Sep 26, 2015 at 05:15 PM
Eh 'yung mga taga TV5, ano pinapanood?  :D

(http://s5.postimg.org/vn8es4i9z/bayaw_pabebe.jpg)
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 26, 2015 at 05:17 PM
I monitored my twitter feed about 30mins ago and abs cbn show's tweets suddenly dropped from 3M++ to 700K.. Why? Tweetbots?

Nasa 6M naman sila now, bka wrong hashtag nakita mo. If u read comments under their hashtags parang   may robot nga, basta maipatrend lang.  ;D
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Post by: coastal on Sep 26, 2015 at 06:18 PM
Di ako lumabas ng bahay today. Sabi nila parang may laban si Pacquiao sa luwag ng EDSA. Sana ganito everyday (ABS-CBN vs GMA) he he he.
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Post by: dyonge on Sep 26, 2015 at 09:26 PM
ang lupet!

walang nagawa established loveteams vs. newbie showmance
big dome vs. mansion
anniversary vs. weeksary


kaya eto final episode showtime 1 year from today
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Showtime_(variety_show) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Showtime_(variety_show))

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Post by: dpogs on Sep 27, 2015 at 12:17 AM
They cant beat EB sa noontime, but abs beats gma all the time :-)
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Post by: Mr. Hankey on Sep 27, 2015 at 07:38 AM
Kanya kanyang panahon lang yan. Just two years ago (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/01/16/13/be-careful-my-heart-beats-eat-bulaga), Eat Bulaga could do nothing but sit back and watch Be Careful With My Heart end their years-long run at the top of the noontime ratings. The public support for that show was just too high for effective counter programming, as is currently the case with this Yayadub thing.

I think ABS should just sit back and take the noontime ratings blows for now. Gen Z has a very short attention span, anyway. Or if they're really desperate, they can try bringing back Maya and Sir Chief for Be Careful With My Heart II: My Wife Is An Alien or something.
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Post by: hennry sy on Sep 27, 2015 at 09:08 AM


I think ABS should just sit back and take the noontime ratings blows for now. Gen Z has a very short attention span, anyway.

Eto mismo sabi ng wife ko sa breakfast earlier, at tingin nya ABS should just stop overreacting and cooking up gimmicks to counter aldub like Pastillas girl.  Pathetic lang ang effect.  You win some, you lose some ika nga.
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Post by: coastal on Sep 28, 2015 at 07:16 AM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2015/09/vice-gandas-alter-ego-viceral-kisses.html

It's more fun in the Philippines! :o :o :o
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 28, 2015 at 07:21 AM
^parang diring diri si karylle
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Post by: coastal on Sep 28, 2015 at 08:15 AM
Natawa nga ko sa mga nabaso ko na kaya nandidiri si Karylle e sa dami ng boylet na pumasok sa bibig ni kabayo ha ha ha!
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 28, 2015 at 08:23 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GFERx293mz4/VggKCvt73XI/AAAAAAABUiQ/Ve2Y2ViZ5XA/s640/IMG_5187.JPG)
Gabriela Calls the Attention of It's Showtime to Complaints Regarding the Show's 'Pimping' of Pastillas Girl
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Post by: sirhc on Sep 28, 2015 at 08:30 AM
^Beat me to it. Was just about to comment Gabriela's MTRCB complaint against showtime.

Re Aldub, pati sa misa kahapon, the priest was talking about Aldub against Pastillas in his homily. At least sa Aldub daw, tinatangkilik ng masa dahil may aral na napupulot. I beg to differ though.  ;D
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 28, 2015 at 09:04 AM
Nabayaran ba ang gabriela para gumawa ng eksena? Para mas lalong pagusapan ang "pastillas"  >:D >:D
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 28, 2015 at 09:16 AM
Kaya pla madami nagsasabing bugaw serye daw yung sa abs.  :(

Ano naman kaya reaksyon ni Yael dun sa kiss? All for the sake of rating... eeeeew!  ???

Nayanig sila sa isang segment lang ng EB.
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Post by: frequenzy on Sep 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM
nagyon daw lalabas yung viewership ratings, lets wait and see :)
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Post by: tony on Sep 28, 2015 at 10:11 AM
they both suck.....both of them were after ratings and more revenues than actual program content....
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 28, 2015 at 01:57 PM
Tinalo pa pac-mayweather at 44.4 %

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/538384/showbiz/chikaminute/eat-bulaga-reaches-pacquiao-level-rating-for-aldub-s-first-date

Last sat %,
Eb 45.7% vs IS 11.9% (source PEP).

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Post by: coastal on Sep 28, 2015 at 02:03 PM
Di mo pa sinama yung 12.1 ng Ben10 ha ha ha. Pero di pa naman daw official yan.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 28, 2015 at 05:14 PM
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/179757/watch-aldub-pair-stars-in-second-fast-food-commercial
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Post by: thebat on Sep 28, 2015 at 05:59 PM
Ang lakas nung AlDub grabe!
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 28, 2015 at 09:38 PM
may kanya kanyang panahon lang naman yata talaga ang mga ganitong shows. the aldub fever is accidental, alden is unknown I mean di naman sya pinag uusapan sa gma eversince I was even surprised bakit sinama pa sya sa eb, nung wala pa yung yaya dub, wala naming may interes din sa kanya sa eb.

yung kalyeserye is not even a part of juan for all, spontaneous naman palagi sila dun, isang araw naisipan nila yung mga tanong tanong kunwari si jose ang may pakana kinagat ng tao kaya nagkaron na sila ng tanungan portion na puro naman kalokohan lang ang sagot, ginaya ng showtime yung nag papayo din si vice ganda lumammam after a few weeks yung sa eb so naisip nila yung dra the explorer na sumasagot sa tanong, may kinuha pa silang dalawang filam na parang secretary, after a few weeks nawalan na din ng interes ang tao hanggang alisin yung dra the explorer at palitan ni lola nidora with yaya dub obviously because of her dubsmash na malakas sa facebook. di naman pumipick up yung lola nidora with yaya dub annoying if ask me until in one episode pinakita si alden sa screen nakita nung yayadub na conscious bigla, jose and paolo pounded on the situation na sinundan pa nila joey, the rest is history as they say.

mag sasawa din naman siguro ang tao dyan sa aldub unless off course na maging parang please be careful with my heart na ang dating na mahaba habang panahon ang tinakbo but it ended nonetheless. in the meantime showtime must hope it can weather the storm, otherwise business is business and we might see a reformat.
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Post by: jhelenz on Sep 29, 2015 at 02:00 PM
Mga sumikat na tandem

ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE

GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)

Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7  >:D
yung tomden?
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Post by: Dan 'Boss' Green on Sep 29, 2015 at 02:18 PM
Mga sumikat na tandem

ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE

GMA
1. ALDUB
2. end of list :-)

Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7  >:D

sikat tong listahan ni dpogs. lolz
looking at the list. the first 2 male partners are big douches. niel gustong magpa sosy para mawalay sa pang-masang image. yung pangalawa sobrang laki ng ulo at feeling brad pitt. not to mention nambabastos ng babae. yung pangatlo parang big douche din sa pag inarte. pero since medyo bago, baka mali ako.

alden aaminin ko mukhang mabait naman.
kaya gma wins for me in this regard for churning out a decent love team.
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Post by: sirhc on Sep 29, 2015 at 05:46 PM
Mga sumikat na tandem

ABS-CBN
1. KATNIEL
2. LIZQUEN
3. JADINE

GMA
1. ALDUB
2. GoGeta
3. GoTenks
4. EriChard
5. LuJiko


Padagdag na lang wala akong idea ano nanguayari sa 7  >:D

Tandem lang pala e..  ;D
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Post by: hennry sy on Sep 29, 2015 at 06:35 PM


If allowed by contract or end of contract na and this pair endorses a presidential candidate only to things will happen, fat pockets for the two and a win for the lucky candidate.  Baka si grace due to tito sotto.
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Post by: dyonge on Sep 29, 2015 at 09:44 PM
mga sumikat na tandem ba kanyo?

GMA
1. dongyan
2. aldub
3. riding in tandem >:D >:D >:D
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Post by: nbc on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM
May nag post sa FB ko nang pic na ito. Not sure if true or not.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/nbc/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nbc/media/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg.html)

nbc
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Post by: Tempter on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:27 PM
May nag post sa FB ko nang pic na ito. Not sure if true or not.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/nbc/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nbc/media/Algay_zpsklcrfuj1.jpg.html)

nbc

nice...
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Post by: Dan 'Boss' Green on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:29 PM
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/56908281.jpg)
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Kita ko din sa twitter, president/founder ng fans club daw nya yun pati ng ibang abs stars.  ::)
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Post by: nbc on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:41 PM
Kita ko din sa twitter, president/founder ng fans club daw nya yun pati ng ibang abs stars.  ::)

Still... hahaha.

I wouldn't be caught dead in poses/pics like that. :p

nbc
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Post by: hotrod on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:46 PM
;D

(http://s9.postimg.org/qc2bei01b/meng.jpg)
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Post by: dts_hdma on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:49 PM
Parang best friend eh, nasa instagram mismo ni alden yung mga pics.
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Post by: DVD_Freak on Sep 29, 2015 at 11:26 PM
If you're confident about your sexuality, ok lang yun mga ganun pics.
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Post by: edboy7 on Sep 30, 2015 at 01:34 AM
ayan pati Gilas Oh! :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/12038382_1178475765501475_7503234086342202510_n.jpg?oh=c67f4911c95918fc68430ba4c3eb5b6b&oe=56A24BD6&__gda__=1452126437_7c07e3d1a571a95c75c9e10f03ad745e)
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Post by: Tempter on Sep 30, 2015 at 10:29 AM
;D

(http://s9.postimg.org/qc2bei01b/meng.jpg)

Hindi ba sya parang autistic? ;D sorry parang sa mga ngiti nya kasi... hehe
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Post by: oweidah on Oct 06, 2015 at 05:51 PM
,gma,tv5 tagteam vs abscbn ?
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Post by: Tempter on Oct 07, 2015 at 10:39 AM
,gma,tv5 tagteam vs abscbn ?

Matagal na ata yan... the enemy of your enemy is your friend. ;D
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Post by: halvert on Oct 07, 2015 at 04:31 PM
^impluwensiya ni Pingris yan. Na asawa ni Danica. Na anak ni Bosing
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Post by: sdsmds on Oct 08, 2015 at 05:22 PM
Very seldom ako magka chance manood ng early morning show sa tv pero kanina habang I'm waiting for my wife sa hospital nagka chance pero wala rin kse tadtad ng commercial both unang hirit & it's counterpart sa ch2. CNN na Lang watched ko.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 10, 2015 at 01:43 AM
Very seldom ako magka chance manood ng early morning show sa tv pero kanina habang I'm waiting for my wife sa hospital nagka chance pero wala rin kse tadtad ng commercial both unang hirit & it's counterpart sa ch2. CNN na Lang watched ko.

 I have long stopped watching both, mas pinapanuod ko ngayon yung UNTV Good Morning Kuya, kase lumipat na dun si Monica Verallo, plus I get to se Beth Santiago, Atty George and Jo Castigador.
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Post by: dyonge on Dec 09, 2015 at 04:56 PM
https://sg.celebrity.yahoo.com/post/134713283109/alden-richards-wins-pmpcs-best-drama-actor (https://sg.celebrity.yahoo.com/post/134713283109/alden-richards-wins-pmpcs-best-drama-actor)

taka lang. best morning show abs cbn ukg pero best morning show host lahat gma. pano nangyare?

Best TV Station: ABS-CBN
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Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 10, 2015 at 03:08 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/203936/manny-pacquiao-tries-to-buy-into-gma-network-rejected

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Post by: Tempter on Dec 10, 2015 at 03:22 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/203936/manny-pacquiao-tries-to-buy-into-gma-network-rejected



Papataas daw muna sila ng presyo... as if... ;D
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Post by: ricracer on Jan 06, 2016 at 11:08 AM
I tried watching GMA Teleseryes.....sobrang natawa ako sa acting nung mga "stars" nila...ang layo sa caliber ng mga ABSCBN talents.    Parang Aldub lang ata ang sikat sa mga new talents ng GMA....most of these young stars are so unknown.   Ang masakit pa ay yung mga medyo may pangalan na like Bela Padilla and Elmo Magalona ay lumilipat sa ABSCBN at sumisikat sila doon.
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Post by: dpogs on Jan 06, 2016 at 11:13 AM
I tried watching GMA Teleseryes.....sobrang natawa ako sa acting nung mga "stars" nila...ang layo sa caliber ng mga ABSCBN talents.    Parang Aldub lang ata ang sikat sa mga new talents ng GMA....most of these young stars are so unknown.   Ang masakit pa ay yung mga medyo may pangalan na like Bela Padilla and Elmo Magalona ay lumilipat sa ABSCBN at sumisikat sila doon.

Talent wise acting etc. . Mas magaling ang abscbn... Pero sa news/documentaries mas umaangat ngayom ang gma :-D

Loyal abs cbn pa rin siyempre... :-D
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Post by: anya618 on May 13, 2016 at 01:16 PM
http://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2016/05/12/1582500/abs-cbn-investigates-doris-bigornias-alleged-misconduct
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 29, 2016 at 09:20 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WgNXteBUA9M/V-zMt0QUlSI/AAAAAAAByzY/1DRnwOOna-0dEKXsNkn4MjS-GdHgDduCwCLcB/s1600/image-0-02-06-543d297b19241025f2e6e167c681d71f7a6df27f5b141e4e7b6d06cfded7d5e2-V.jpg)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iF7RXzTqGBk/V-zMzYPTVCI/AAAAAAAByzc/Ynv6x01bOtMVwyCqMIU6_NThmB7XNlE7ACLcB/s1600/image-0-02-06-9ce373f70a74d9a5b9fc4ab233282e941f6ad239e3e09a26a801930dd8fde239-V.jpg)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-O0ZZrfY6n-c/V-zMoYqj89I/AAAAAAAByzU/xBmsg4--00IknkZLrGUAS4nztAMTjK-cQCLcB/s1600/image-0-02-06-df2fb74d137c36feff5e4620911b8a52f3c1ce2ce0e587ede2223bea0b83c8b0-V.jpg)
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Post by: oznola on Oct 14, 2016 at 07:54 AM
mag lalabas na din pala ang GMA ng TV box nila

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/584932/hashtag/how-gma-s-upcoming-digital-receiver-turns-screens-into-smart-tvs
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Post by: anya618 on Oct 14, 2016 at 07:55 AM
mag lalabas na din pala ang GMA ng TV box nila

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/584932/hashtag/how-gma-s-upcoming-digital-receiver-turns-screens-into-smart-tvs

tapos malabo naman ang abs sa kanila hahaha
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Post by: dpogs on Oct 14, 2016 at 08:04 AM
tapos malabo naman ang abs sa kanila hahaha

malinaw ang gma sa abs tv box :)
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Post by: tony on Oct 14, 2016 at 08:35 AM
CNN Philippines for me....
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Post by: anya618 on Nov 23, 2016 at 03:30 PM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2016/11/ogie-alcasid-is-now-kapamilya.html

naikot na niya yung mga station  >:D
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Post by: sdsmds on Nov 23, 2016 at 03:59 PM
parehong matakaw sa commercials. wala akong mapili.
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Post by: Tempter on Nov 23, 2016 at 05:11 PM
http://www.fashionpulis.com/2016/11/ogie-alcasid-is-now-kapamilya.html

naikot na niya yung mga station  >:D

Ganyan talaga pag nalalaos na, at wala ng show, kahit saan basta may raket! ;D Kahit lumunok ng ilang galon... hehe!
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Post by: dpogs on Nov 23, 2016 at 05:24 PM
Ganyan talaga pag nalalaos na, at wala ng show, kahit saan basta may raket! ;D Kahit lumunok ng ilang galon... hehe!

Sana talaga di siya umalis ng 7... Nasa bubble gang pa sana siya hanggang ngayon...
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 23, 2016 at 08:46 PM
wala narin naman kwenta bubble gang. hehe. puro nalang kalandian. tatalunin pa ata sila ng going bulilit. hehehe. peace mga GMA lovers.
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Post by: Tempter on Nov 24, 2016 at 12:22 PM
wala narin naman kwenta bubble gang. hehe. puro nalang kalandian. tatalunin pa ata sila ng going bulilit. hehehe. peace mga GMA lovers.

Agree! Panis na style nila
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Post by: traveler69 on Nov 24, 2016 at 03:31 PM
CNN Philippines for me....

I agree.

By far, the least biased among the local TV stations.
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 24, 2016 at 04:54 PM
ok lang talaga sa GMA ang GMA NEWS TV..
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Post by: dpogs on Nov 25, 2016 at 03:07 AM
ok lang talaga sa GMA ang GMA NEWS TV..

tama... saka mga documentary shows nila...

pero talent wise ng mga artista nila masakit man sabihin pero basura (bukod sa mga matatandang artista).
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Post by: tony on Nov 25, 2016 at 04:28 PM
di naman problema yan if you can discern the truth....
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Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 25, 2016 at 04:57 PM
or how they remain objective on their episodes. just remember most of the good talents came from GMA too then shifted to GMA. Che Che Lazaro, Tina Monsod-Palma, Karen Davila etc.
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Post by: Tempter on Nov 25, 2016 at 05:19 PM
or how they remain objective on their episodes. just remember most of the good talents came from GMA too then shifted to GMA. Che Che Lazaro, Tina Monsod-Palma, Karen Davila etc.

I believe Cheche started in ABS-CBN.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 25, 2016 at 06:08 PM
yep, sorry I was referring to her Probe Productions
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 25, 2016 at 09:33 PM
ui the best kaya ang show sa GMA.hahaha you must watch this.. one of my favorite scene sa isang show nila..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik7bT9SOrnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik7bT9SOrnI)

2 thumbs up!!!!
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Post by: yapoy86 on Nov 25, 2016 at 09:46 PM
or how they remain objective on their episodes. just remember most of the good talents came from GMA too then shifted to GMA. Che Che Lazaro, Tina Monsod-Palma, Karen Davila etc.

Di ba si tina monsod palma sa abs din galing?

Excuse me pooowh

Teee beeee patrol
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 26, 2016 at 09:14 PM
pagdating sa talent pag nalilipat ng GMA nabubulok ang artista. pag napupunta ng ABS gumagaling at sumisikat... yun lang yun.hehehe.
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Post by: Tempter on Nov 28, 2016 at 11:27 AM
pagdating sa talent pag nalilipat ng GMA nabubulok ang artista. pag napupunta ng ABS gumagaling at sumisikat... yun lang yun.hehehe.

Or yung mga bulok/pabulok na talents napupunta sa GMA ;D
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Post by: krets pulpol on Nov 28, 2016 at 12:16 PM
Di ba si tina monsod palma sa abs din galing?

Excuse me pooowh

Teee beeee patrol

Nope, she started in GMA 7 too then moved to TV5 then ABS CBN to team up with Angelo Castro for late news.
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Post by: JeromeA on Dec 02, 2016 at 07:33 PM
eto pa oh.

i congrats nyo si mariz umali.. hahahahaha. dba GMA yun??

watch nyo nalang ang pag supalpal sa kanya ni bato.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvnHQVE5Sfg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvnHQVE5Sfg)
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Post by: oweidah on Dec 11, 2016 at 12:02 PM
nice production numbers http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/12/10/16/watch-sandara-park-performs-for-first-time-since-2ne1-split

now asap

gma mukang tinitiipid budget
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 11, 2016 at 12:22 PM
gusto ko ABS kahit bias sa News lamang sa magagandang program eh, pero sa news bias sila para sa akin.
GMA tipid sa budget kaya programs nila pangit para ulit sa akin ha.
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Post by: JeromeA on Dec 11, 2016 at 11:37 PM
^
tama talaga yang sinabi mo boss. wala kwenta ang GMA pag sa programs nila. ok lang talaga ang NEWS TV.

di ata maganda kasi talaga ang taga develop ng talent jan.

pero ang nakakapagtaka marami pa daw sila napapanalunan sa mga programa nila. parang gawa gawa lang nila mga awards eh.hahaha.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2016 at 12:04 AM
^oo kanya kanyang gimik yan para tumaas ratings nila.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2016 at 12:09 AM
isa pa pala mas gusto ko naman yung kay Jessica Soho program compare kay Korina Sanchez. yun ang okay sa akin sa GMA sa time slot na yun.
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Post by: JeromeA on Dec 12, 2016 at 12:40 AM
basta mga palabas sa GMA NEWS TV sir.. dun mga docu nila na magaganda.. pero sa GMA channel mismo naku po kung hindi cartoons, korean ang palabas.
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Post by: Quitacet on Dec 12, 2016 at 08:57 AM
^
tama talaga yang sinabi mo boss. wala kwenta ang GMA pag sa programs nila. ok lang talaga ang NEWS TV.

di ata maganda kasi talaga ang taga develop ng talent jan.

pero ang nakakapagtaka marami pa daw sila napapanalunan sa mga programa nila. parang gawa gawa lang nila mga awards eh.hahaha.

hindi naman gawa-gawa pero marami sa awards nila bigay ng mga Universities pero di ko alam ang criteria na ginamit

mas mataas din ratings nila compared sa ABS

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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2016 at 09:14 AM
basta mga palabas sa GMA NEWS TV sir.. dun mga docu nila na magaganda.. pero sa GMA channel mismo naku po kung hindi cartoons, korean ang palabas.
panira kasi NEWS ng ABS eh.
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Post by: anya618 on Dec 16, 2016 at 12:19 PM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/592680/cbb/kapuso-network-posts-wider-leads-over-competition-in-nationwide-ratings

tapos ayon naman dun sa kabila sila ang nangunguna  >:D
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 16, 2016 at 01:06 PM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/592680/cbb/kapuso-network-posts-wider-leads-over-competition-in-nationwide-ratings

tapos ayon naman dun sa kabila sila ang nangunguna  >:D
ganyan nga ata talaga eh sir Philip. ;D
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Post by: traveler69 on Dec 17, 2016 at 07:59 PM
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/592680/cbb/kapuso-network-posts-wider-leads-over-competition-in-nationwide-ratings

tapos ayon naman dun sa kabila sila ang nangunguna  >:D

Huh, seriously? Wider leads? If one examines the "claim," the supposedly wider lead is a result of sampling from urban areas nationwide only. That's very disingenuous.

Ang mahalagang tanong: bakit hindi kasama ang mga rural areas nationwide?

Wait, are Filipinos from rural areas all over the country only watching CBS, NBC or HBO that they cannot be legitimately included in this allegedly nationwide ratings survey for local channels?

I'm being sarcastic because these surveys are obviously self-serving.
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Post by: anya618 on Jan 31, 2017 at 08:51 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/my0lP11.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/OiORZaR.jpg)

sino kaya nagsasabi ng totoo?  >:D
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jan 31, 2017 at 09:28 PM
Wala pa ratings ng facebook live at youtube? Hehe.. talo GMA wala sila cable tv and digital tv arm... kaya paano tataas rating nila
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Post by: JeromeA on Jan 31, 2017 at 10:17 PM
hay di na kayo nasanay sa GMA lagi yang gagawa ng sarili nilang award. hahaha
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Post by: anya618 on Mar 02, 2017 at 03:22 PM
ABS-CBN maintains ratings lead in February (http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/03/02/17/abs-cbn-maintains-ratings-lead-in-february)
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Mar 06, 2017 at 09:04 AM
Sky Cable ako eh, yun lang may libre HD na channel ABS-CBN.
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Post by: JeromeA on Mar 06, 2017 at 01:30 PM
Sky Cable ako eh, yun lang may libre HD na channel ABS-CBN.

my partnership ang skycable at abs bro
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Post by: oweidah on Mar 11, 2017 at 01:43 PM
atm, watching tawag ng tanghalan

kudos to dos!

search for modernday nora villamayor, champ1967
check nyo finalists...

sayang  tsk  http://www.lionheartv.net/2017/03/vice-ganda-nora-aunor/


ampf, thanks to edsa traffic hahaha at wala gaano commercials
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Post by: anya618 on May 31, 2017 at 02:35 PM
Richard Gutierrez, Kapamilya na (http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/05/31/17/richard-gutierrez-kapamilya-na)
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Post by: oweidah on May 31, 2017 at 02:39 PM
maganda nga daw ba un recent mmk ni angel locsin. tsaka both sides presented
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Post by: JeromeA on May 31, 2017 at 03:57 PM
maganda nga daw ba un recent mmk ni angel locsin. tsaka both sides presented

+1 on this. napanood ko both episode.
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Post by: traveler69 on May 31, 2017 at 04:10 PM
(https://s11.postimg.org/jfv166vgz/Liza_Soberano_MMK.jpg)

This is one upcoming MMK episode I'd love to see with the beautiful Liza Soberano in it.
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Post by: JeromeA on May 31, 2017 at 04:14 PM
(https://s11.postimg.org/jfv166vgz/Liza_Soberano_MMK.jpg)

This is one upcoming MMK episode I'd love to see with the beautiful Liza Soberano in it.

mas excited ako sa DARNA n suit nya. hahahaha
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Post by: JeromeA on May 31, 2017 at 04:16 PM
confirmed na si liza soberano na darna dba?
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Post by: traveler69 on May 31, 2017 at 04:17 PM
mas excited ako sa DARNA n suit nya. hahahaha

Um, meron kaya sa MMK episode yang 2-pc swimsuit muna while portraying Pia as a Binibining Pilipinas contestant?  >:D
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Post by: traveler69 on May 31, 2017 at 04:18 PM
confirmed na si liza soberano na darna dba?

Yup, confirmed. Saw it in the papers earlier.
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Post by: JeromeA on May 31, 2017 at 04:28 PM
Um, meron kaya sa MMK episode yang 2-pc swimsuit muna while portraying Pia as a Binibining Pilipinas contestant?  >:D

oo nga nuh. hahaha
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Post by: sdsmds on Jun 17, 2017 at 01:28 PM
watching eat bulaga grabe tagal ng commercial approx mga 10 mins or about 7 tv ads. hindi ba nireregulate yung mg ganito?
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 17, 2017 at 01:45 PM
watching eat bulaga grabe tagal ng commercial approx mga 10 mins or about 7 tv ads. hindi ba nireregulate yung mg ganito?

Wala ata air... Maliban sa censorship... Nasa network na paano nila babalasahin mga palabas/patalastas nila. :( :( :(
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Post by: sdsmds on Jun 18, 2017 at 01:52 AM
Wala ata air... Maliban sa censorship... Nasa network na paano nila babalasahin mga palabas/patalastas nila. :( :( :(
Halatang negosyo Lang. Yung for the impt viewers na sinasabi eh pra sa true followers Lang ng programa
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Post by: prototypeone on Jun 18, 2017 at 02:35 AM
I don't know why GMA still has the guts to say they're the no. 1 network here in the PH wherein their shows now suck so bad and their current roster are full of starlets. They shouldn't exist anymore. Siguro pwede pa yung NEWS nila  >:D
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Post by: traveler69 on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:02 AM
^ Number 1?  It's frickin' 2017 and this network is still broadcasting shows in STANDARD DEFINITION! Such an eyesore to watch low-res GMA shows on a 4k TV. Pang-CRT pa rin ang level eh.

ABS-CBN has a technical lead with a 1080i video quality.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:22 AM
wag na kayong magtaka bakit ganyan parin ang GMA. kahit dito nga sa PDVD tingnan nyo ang votings.mas lamang parin GMA.hahahaha

kahit dito sa pdvd number 1 ang GMA.
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Post by: prototypeone on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:36 AM
^ Number 1?  It's frickin' 2017 and this network is still broadcasting shows in STANDARD DEFINITION! Such an eyesore to watch low-res GMA shows on a 4k TV. Pang-CRT pa rin ang level eh.

ABS-CBN has a technical lead with a 1080i video quality.

Everything GMA right now is an eyesore. No wonder they're cutting down their shows. Missing the days where they can at least produce shows like Asian Treasures with Angel and Robin, etc.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:43 AM
sa documentaries nalang sila OK.. pero the rest garbage na..
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 18, 2017 at 06:59 AM
Everything GMA right now is an eyesore. No wonder they're cutting down their shows. Missing the days where they can at least produce shows like Asian Treasures with Angel and Robin, etc.

Ang bumubuhay na lang ata sa gma network ay ang eat bulaga - re. 10 minutes commercial intervals :) :) :)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 07:26 AM
sa documentaries nalang sila OK.. pero the rest garbage na..

Sa abs ba, anong okay?
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Post by: t-bone on Jun 18, 2017 at 07:54 AM
Sa abs ba, anong okay?
Ito....
(http://pageone.ph/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-0104-PageOne-Liza-Soberano.png)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:02 AM
Ito....
(http://pageone.ph/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-0104-PageOne-Liza-Soberano.png)

Does she jump rope? ;D
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:06 AM
^
landi nalang kasi alam ng GMA kaya mga ganun ang pinapalabas. pati ang bubble gang ngayon sobrang wala ng kwenta.. puro nalang suso pinapakita dun. hahaha.

tatalunin pa sila ng going bulilit..
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:07 AM
Sa abs ba, anong okay?

maraming ok.. unang una maiksi lang ang commercial,  maaayos ang mga palabas. hindi puro anime at koreanovela.. maayos mga talents..
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:10 AM
Anong palabas ang okay?
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:23 AM
maraming ok.. unang una maiksi lang ang commercial,  maaayos ang mga palabas. hindi puro anime at koreanovela.. maayos mga talents..

Maybe because company doesnt want their commercials na maipalabas sa mga shows ng abs :) :) kaya maiksi lang ang commercial.

Im abs cba loyalist nga pala hehehe since namulat mata ko sa tv abscbn na. Pagdating ko ng los banos saka ko lang nalaman na may gma hehehehe


Kaya abscbn still the best for me.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:30 AM
Anong palabas ang okay?

sa GMA mo dapat itanong yan..
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:43 AM
sa GMA mo dapat itanong yan..

You said abs is okay yet wala kang mabanggit na magandang palabas? ;D
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Post by: traveler69 on Jun 18, 2017 at 08:50 AM
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landi nalang kasi alam ng GMA kaya mga ganun ang pinapalabas. pati ang bubble gang ngayon sobrang wala ng kwenta.. puro nalang suso pinapakita dun. hahaha.

tatalunin pa sila ng going bulilit..

For instance, when they were still doing the "Yaya & Angelina" Bubble Gang was really funny back in the day. Now they have less gags, only more boobs. The creative edge is no longer there. They might as well call it the BOSOM GANG.  >:D
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Post by: Pipo_1925 on Jun 18, 2017 at 09:39 AM
Anong palabas ang okay?

Para sakin news, documentary and eat bulaga(juan for all all for juan na segment lang)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:42 PM
Para sakin news, documentary and eat bulaga(juan for all all for juan na segment lang)

I meant anong palabas ang okay sa abs.
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 18, 2017 at 03:52 PM
I meant anong palabas ang okay sa abs.

Compare to gma lahat ng teleserye siyempre. It might not be "okay" to you but i can say that they are more okay than gma's :) :) :)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 04:28 PM
Dahil mas maganda teleserye ng abs, better na sya sa gma?

Any teleserye you can recommend?
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 18, 2017 at 04:43 PM
Dahil mas maganda teleserye ng abs, better na sya sa gma?

Any teleserye you can recommend?

Ano criteria mo para marate ang isang network?

Then lets decide whos the best. :) :) :)

Baka maging bias ako aince abs loyalist ako :) :) :) last time na tumututok ako manood sa gma ay panahon pa ng "ghost fighter" :) :) :)


Teleserye i can recommend as of now - wala :) :) since sept last year di na kamai nanood halos ng tv :( :( :( aiguro "Ang Probinsiyano"

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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 18, 2017 at 04:51 PM
Critically acclaimed ba yang probinsyano?
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 18, 2017 at 11:40 PM
since naka Sky ako and ang tanging may HD lang ay ABS sa ABS ako. ;D
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 19, 2017 at 04:44 AM
Critically acclaimed ba yang probinsyano?

Not. But compare to other teleserye ng gma it is way better well for me.

Its just between gma and abs the best for me is abs regardless if their teleserye shows are "critically acclaimed" or not. :) :) :)

How about you sir. Between abs and gma which is better? Siguro if youre looking for "crtitically a claimed" shows baka walang pumasa sa iyo na tv station sa atin :) :) :)


Akala ko kasi youre looking for just " okay" na palabas. Critically acclaimed pala hanap mo then i can honestly say - wala. :) :) :)
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 19, 2017 at 05:21 AM
Not. But compare to other teleserye ng gma it is way better well for me.

Its just between gma and abs the best for me is abs regardless if their teleserye shows are "critically acclaimed" or not. :) :) :)

How about you sir. Between abs and gma which is better? Siguro if youre looking for "crtitically a claimed" shows baka walang pumasa sa iyo na tv station sa atin :) :) :)


Akala ko kasi youre looking for just " okay" na palabas. Critically acclaimed pala hanap mo then i can honestly say - wala. :) :) :)

You named one show. Akala ko naman highly regarded yung show na yan since you singled it out ;D

Based on what i read here, gma does news better, but abs is better overall since the teleseryes are better? Tama ba?

To answer your question, i watch abs more (mornings) taon na yata lumipas since i watched something from gma.
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 19, 2017 at 05:48 AM
You named one show. Akala ko naman highly regarded yung show na yan since you singled it out ;D

Based on what i read here, gma does news better, but abs is better overall since the teleseryes are better? Tama ba?

To answer your question, i watch abs more (mornings) taon na yata lumipas since i watched something from gma.

Hehehe sabi ko nga wala akong marerecommend kasi last year pa di na ako nanonood ng tv lalo na sa gabi. Kaya nasabi ko na baka siguro "ang probinsiyano" kasi un halos naririnig ko sa mga bata at kapitbahay namin na kwentuhan...
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 19, 2017 at 08:29 AM
You named one show. Akala ko naman highly regarded yung show na yan since you singled it out ;D

Based on what i read here, gma does news better, but abs is better overall since the teleseryes are better? Tama ba?

To answer your question, i watch abs more (mornings) taon na yata lumipas since i watched something from gma.

hindi lang teleserye ang ok sa abs cbn. napakalayo ng mga kalidad ng talents ng abs kesa GMA.

eto ang lamang ng ABS

talents
teleserye
maiksing commercial break
malaking malaking deperensya ng music entertainment (ASAP)
malupit na camera set up ang lightings sa mga shows (tingnan mo mag set up ang GMA amateur na amateur)
ASAP is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GMA music entertainment.
much better late shows sa ABS compare sa GMA.
much better to start morning compare sa GMA
when it comes to news bias ang abs cbn pero nakakasabay naman at mas magagaling ang live news na reporter nila compare sa mga reporter ng GMA

ayan palang ang natatandaan ko.
eh ikaw bumblebee its your turn para ilatag ang lamang ng GMA sa ABS.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 19, 2017 at 08:31 AM
and Do Not underestimate probinsyano kasi ang pag gawa nyan on the spot lagi. maybe action corny pero ang story base yun sa current na nangyayari sa pilipinas, ganun sila ka bilis mag isip. kaya bang gawin ng mga writer ng GMA yan?
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Post by: prototypeone on Jun 19, 2017 at 08:46 AM
lmao  ;D
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 19, 2017 at 09:16 AM
Kapamilyang kapamilya a ;D

Like i said, matagal na kong hindi nanonood ng gma shows. I was just asking how abs is better because when i watch, it's just meh to me. And to me, meh is meh.

As for talents, don't you think it's bad for talents to be under exclusive contracts? Tsaka, hindi ba naglilipatan rin sila kapag hindi narerenew?

Late night shows? You mean the likes of gandang gabi vice?

Morning shows? If i start watching from either network, I'd watch the same show the next day.

Teleseryes? Daily teleseryes are for afternoons, not primetime. Nakakasawa. And quality suffers. Kaya puro close ups at one liners teleserye ngayon e.
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 19, 2017 at 09:37 AM
Kapamilyang kapamilya a ;D

Like i said, matagal na kong hindi nanonood ng gma shows. I was just asking how abs is better because when i watch, it's just meh to me. And to me, meh is meh.

As for talents, don't you think it's bad for talents to be under exclusive contracts? Tsaka, hindi ba naglilipatan rin sila kapag hindi narerenew?

Late night shows? You mean the likes of gandang gabi vice?

Morning shows? If i start watching from either network, I'd watch the same show the next day.

Teleseryes? Daily teleseryes are for afternoons, not primetime. Nakakasawa. And quality suffers. Kaya puro close ups at one liners teleserye ngayon e.

Hehehe..

If watching abs is jist a meh meh to you... Pls try watching gma :) :) :)

And let us know which is better :) :) :)
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Post by: Tempter on Jun 19, 2017 at 04:53 PM
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landi nalang kasi alam ng GMA kaya mga ganun ang pinapalabas. pati ang bubble gang ngayon sobrang wala ng kwenta.. puro nalang suso pinapakita dun. hahaha.

tatalunin pa sila ng going bulilit..

Sobrang desperate ng GMA to compete with ABS shows hehe!!! Ganda ng shows ng GMA pag sunday - day time haha!!! Lahat ng palabas nila si Jose makikita mo... ;D
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 20, 2017 at 09:55 PM
Kapamilyang kapamilya a ;D

Like i said, matagal na kong hindi nanonood ng gma shows. I was just asking how abs is better because when i watch, it's just meh to me. And to me, meh is meh.

As for talents, don't you think it's bad for talents to be under exclusive contracts? Tsaka, hindi ba naglilipatan rin sila kapag hindi narerenew?

Late night shows? You mean the likes of gandang gabi vice?

Morning shows? If i start watching from either network, I'd watch the same show the next day.

Teleseryes? Daily teleseryes are for afternoons, not primetime. Nakakasawa. And quality suffers. Kaya puro close ups at one liners teleserye ngayon e.

GGV lang ba ang naririnig mo na late night shows nila? saka pansinin mo pag lumipat from ABS to GMA nagiging basura ang career.

hindi dahil sa kapamilyang kapamilya. just saying the truth. i dare you na ilatag mo ang pwede mong maipagmalaki sa GMA mo. dami mo pa sinasabi, ilatag mo..

kahit sa station ID palang milya milya ang layo ng quality ng pagkagawa ng ABS compare sa GMA. cartoons? kahit doon di ako bilib sa GMA. kayang kaya tapatan ng YEY channel yan. haha.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 20, 2017 at 09:56 PM
Sobrang desperate ng GMA to compete with ABS shows hehe!!! Ganda ng shows ng GMA pag sunday - day time haha!!! Lahat ng palabas nila si Jose makikita mo... ;D

si JOSE brader ang katapat lang nyan si Kuya Jobert.
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jun 20, 2017 at 10:06 PM
GGV lang ba ang naririnig mo na late night shows nila? saka pansinin mo pag lumipat from ABS to GMA nagiging basura ang career.

hindi dahil sa kapamilyang kapamilya. just saying the truth. i dare you na ilatag mo ang pwede mong maipagmalaki sa GMA mo. dami mo pa sinasabi, ilatag mo..

kahit sa station ID palang milya milya ang layo ng quality ng pagkagawa ng ABS compare sa GMA. cartoons? kahit doon di ako bilib sa GMA. kayang kaya tapatan ng YEY channel yan. haha.

Agree on this.. kahit na sabihin na almost no value minsan mga palabas nila pareho but comparing production value and creativity talo talaga gma.. pati sa stock exchange talo eh...

Si dzbb ngaun lang nag implement ng teleradyo.. radyo na tv pa... tapos pakinggan mo yung jingle ng dzbb walang kwenta eh.. cheap na cheap.. si mike enriquez wala na din value kasi puro commercial.. may regular commercial tapos yung anchor mag commercial din
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 20, 2017 at 10:09 PM
Agree on this.. kahit na sabihin na almost no value minsan mga palabas nila pareho but comparing production value and creativity talo talaga gma.. pati sa stock exchange talo eh...

Si dzbb ngaun lang nag implement ng teleradyo.. radyo na tv pa... tapos pakinggan mo yung jingle ng dzbb walang kwenta eh.. cheap na cheap.. si mike enriquez wala na din value kasi puro commercial.. may regular commercial tapos yung anchor mag commercial din

naku 1 time nasaktuhan ko yan brader ang DZBB nila. hanep na yan siguro mga 5mins nagkatinginan lang sila. wala ng masabi. walang wala sa DZMM.

dapat talaga my i compare kasi nga comparing na thread to eh. hindi yung ABS lang ang titirahin.kaya nga dapat ilatag nya rin kung ano naging advantage ng GMA over ABS.para ma tally natin..
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Post by: sdsmds on Jun 21, 2017 at 12:38 AM


Si dzbb ngaun lang nag implement ng teleradyo.. radyo na tv pa... tapos pakinggan mo yung jingle ng dzbb walang kwenta eh.. cheap na cheap.. si mike enriquez wala na din value kasi puro commercial.. may regular commercial tapos yung anchor mag commercial din
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si Mike enriquez lumalala yung samid...napanood ko minsan ang dalas & may time na hirap sa pronounce, nauutal akala ko nga ma iistroke
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Post by: sdsmds on Jun 21, 2017 at 12:42 AM
yun naman dos for dos 5pm to 630 time slot pro yung on topic/ public service siguro 45mins lang. ang daming commercial & greetings not to mention non sense talking sa start ng program. actualy i like listening to them pag theyre on topic. im listening to them pla pagdriving sa hapon while on traffic.
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:04 AM
GGV lang ba ang naririnig mo na late night shows nila? saka pansinin mo pag lumipat from ABS to GMA nagiging basura ang career.

Baka naman kasi wala talagang talent in the first place ;D

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hindi dahil sa kapamilyang kapamilya. just saying the truth. i dare you na ilatag mo ang pwede mong maipagmalaki sa GMA mo. dami mo pa sinasabi, ilatag mo..

Have you been reading my posts? I thought I was clear na I haven't watched any GMA shows in a long time. Pano ko naman maipagmamalaki yun? ;D Tinatanong ko lang naman kung anu anong ABS shows ang worth watching ;D Based on your posts, mukhang wala. Pero you give praise to GMA documentaries. And yet better ang ABS ;D
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kahit sa station ID palang milya milya ang layo ng quality ng pagkagawa ng ABS compare sa GMA. cartoons? kahit doon di ako bilib sa GMA. kayang kaya tapatan ng YEY channel yan. haha.

Your words betray you ;D
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:17 AM
Baka naman kasi wala talagang talent in the first place ;D

Have you been reading my posts? I thought I was clear na I haven't watched any GMA shows in a long time. Pano ko naman maipagmamalaki yun? ;D Tinatanong ko lang naman kung anu anong ABS shows ang worth watching ;D Based on your posts, mukhang wala. Pero you give praise to GMA documentaries. And yet better ang ABS ;D


Your words betray you ;D

yes! kasi marunong ako tumingin at mag compare. kaya ko nasabing much better ang documentaries ng GMA over ABS. eh ikaw?

basahin mo mga reply mo. we are comparing both station pero walang nakukuhang sagot na matino sayo. wag mo sabihin paulit ulit na " anong show ng ABS ang worth" kasi we are not talking about ABS alone, thread ito ng comparison.kaya nga my votings eh. i need your opinion o comparison para sabihin na mas better ang GMA over sa ABS.

tatanungin nalang kita ng simple ano mas better ABS o GMA? ayan nalang sagutin mo..
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Post by: dpogs on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:23 AM
yes! kasi marunong ako tumingin at mag compare. kaya ko nasabing much better ang documentaries ng GMA over ABS. eh ikaw?

basahin mo mga reply mo. we are comparing both station pero walang nakukuhang sagot na matino sayo. wag mo sabihin paulit ulit na " anong show ng ABS ang worth" kasi we are not talking about ABS alone, thread ito ng comparison.kaya nga my votings eh. i need your opinion o comparison para sabihin na mas better ang GMA over sa ABS.

tatanungin nalang kita ng simple ano mas better ABS o GMA? ayan nalang sagutin mo..

I think he cant compare since sinabi naman niya na di siya nanood ng GMA for a long time na kaya "siguro" ang personal choice nya for TV (morning) is abs cbn though wala nga lang siyang makitang "okay" na teleserye (palabas) sa abs ayon sa kanyang panlasa. :) :) :)
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:35 AM
patuloy lang sya sagot ng sagot ng kung ano ano sa mga post ko.

kaya i shorten natin ang usapan para iisa tayo ng direksyon. floating kasi mga sagot nya eh

ang mahiwagang tanong

ano ang mas maganda ABS CBN o GMA para sayo sir bumblebee?
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:54 AM
I think he cant compare since sinabi naman niya na di siya nanood ng GMA for a long time na kaya "siguro" ang personal choice nya for TV (morning) is abs cbn though wala nga lang siyang makitang "okay" na teleserye (palabas) sa abs ayon sa kanyang panlasa. :) :) :)

Thank you. Akala ko magulo yung mga posts ko, naiiintindihan naman pala ;D Let me just clarify the morning shows. ABS CBN HD is ch167, katabi ng HBO HD and malapit sa History HD, channels I often switch to and from. Hindi ko alam kung ano channel ng GMA. So maybe that explains it better. But like I said, if I start watching either, the next day, yun uli papanoorin ko.
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Post by: Tha_Mann on Jun 21, 2017 at 01:23 PM
akala ko nasa NBA thread pa din ako hahaha..
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Post by: sdsmds on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:29 PM
bros baka may nakakaalam lang. sama na lahat ng tv & radio stations. their asking donations sa lahat ng calamities & tragedies, recent yung sa marawi. how sure we are na yun ay napupunta sa dapat puntahan at hindi sa bulsa lang ng mga taga himpilan? meron bang govt or non govt na nagmomonitor nito? may broacasted na bank acct, kanino yun? easy racket ito kung tutuusin. yung small time impostor nakakadale ano pa kaya yung talagang taga loob ng giants broacasting co.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 24, 2017 at 10:38 PM
bros baka may nakakaalam lang. sama na lahat ng tv & radio stations. their asking donations sa lahat ng calamities & tragedies, recent yung sa marawi. how sure we are na yun ay napupunta sa dapat puntahan at hindi sa bulsa lang ng mga taga himpilan? meron bang govt or non govt na nagmomonitor nito? may broacasted na bank acct, kanino yun? easy racket ito kung tutuusin. yung small time impostor nakakadale ano pa kaya yung talagang taga loob ng giants broacasting co.

curious din ako dito
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:01 PM
hay kala ko kung ano na, bakit may HBO? di ba ABS and GMA ang thread?  ???
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:02 PM
ako mas gusto ko talaga ABS lalo na ngayon KatNiel sa laluna sangre..HA HA!
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Post by: bumblebee on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:07 PM
hay kala ko kung ano na, bakit may HBO? di ba ABS and GMA ang thread?  ???

Report to moderator mo ;D
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:07 PM
no need sanay na kami. ;D
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Post by: krets pulpol on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:36 PM
bros baka may nakakaalam lang. sama na lahat ng tv & radio stations. their asking donations sa lahat ng calamities & tragedies, recent yung sa marawi. how sure we are na yun ay napupunta sa dapat puntahan at hindi sa bulsa lang ng mga taga himpilan? meron bang govt or non govt na nagmomonitor nito? may broacasted na bank acct, kanino yun? easy racket ito kung tutuusin. yung small time impostor nakakadale ano pa kaya yung talagang taga loob ng giants broacasting co.

I'm sure may audit ang mga yan at takot ang mga foundation nila (kasi usually dun pinapadaan ang mga ganyang activities) na masangkot sa anumalya kasi reputasyon nila ang nakasalalay. Isang anumalya tapos yan, wala nang magdo donate. Kahit isang tao lang na nangupit damay ang lahat pati organizer. I'm sure they're also covering their tracks. Pwede kasi silang makasuhan ng fraud at siguradong malaki ang implikasyon nyan sa kumpanya. Mukhang kailangan ding mag apply ng lisensya as donee institution.
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Post by: sdsmds on Jul 01, 2017 at 06:29 PM
I'm sure may audit ang mga yan at takot ang mga foundation nila (kasi usually dun pinapadaan ang mga ganyang activities) na masangkot sa anumalya kasi reputasyon nila ang nakasalalay. Isang anumalya tapos yan, wala nang magdo donate. Kahit isang tao lang na nangupit damay ang lahat pati organizer. I'm sure they're also covering their tracks. Pwede kasi silang makasuhan ng fraud at siguradong malaki ang implikasyon nyan sa kumpanya. Mukhang kailangan ding mag apply ng lisensya as donee institution.
Sana nga bro. Para hindi ot wala ako mapili sa 2
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Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 07, 2017 at 11:34 PM
G Diaries

Mukhang tatakbo ang ale o wala nang magawa hahaha
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Post by: curvis on Jul 08, 2017 at 12:18 AM
GMA for me. just because of EB - the only show I watch locally. pag lumipat sila, eh di lipat na din ako.
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 08, 2017 at 10:39 PM
G Diaries

Mukhang tatakbo ang ale o wala nang magawa hahaha

ok naman ang G diaries sir ah.. hehe.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Jul 10, 2017 at 11:24 AM
Yep ok naman, kaso mukhang may agenda ang ale hehe
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Post by: sdsmds on Jul 12, 2017 at 07:34 PM
Mulawin- 2017 na sagwa pa rin ng camera trick. Low budget ba or bano pa rin tyo gumawa ng  movies? Sorry if ot
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Post by: traveler69 on Jul 12, 2017 at 07:42 PM
Mulawin- 2017 na sagwa pa rin ng camera trick. Low budget ba or bano pa rin tyo gumawa ng  movies? Sorry if ot

Is there a movie or are you referring to the current teleserye? I had seen a few minutes of the latter and I also thought na masagwa din, mainly green screen lang ito done inside a studio. I also think na medyo low-budget kasi hindi actual location ang shooting.
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Post by: sdsmds on Jul 12, 2017 at 08:44 PM
Is there a movie or are you referring to the current teleserye? I had seen a few minutes of the latter and I also thought na masagwa din, mainly green screen lang ito done inside a studio. I also think na medyo low-budget kasi hindi actual location ang shooting.
Sorry yung teleserye. Pinakita Lang while watching news kanina. Yung lumilipad prang shoot nung unang panahon pa
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 12, 2017 at 09:13 PM
makaluma kasi gamit ng 7 sa effects nila eh.
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Post by: Tempter on Jul 13, 2017 at 01:10 PM
Mulawin- 2017 na sagwa pa rin ng camera trick. Low budget ba or bano pa rin tyo gumawa ng  movies? Sorry if ot

Pinipilit sa LOW budget kasi LOW talent din... ;D
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Post by: oweidah on Jul 18, 2017 at 07:16 PM
ku.dos eddy at ms. earth!
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 18, 2017 at 10:59 PM
Pinipilit sa LOW budget kasi LOW talent din... ;D
ha ha..the truth naman eh. :)
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Post by: oweidah on Aug 06, 2017 at 02:28 PM
nw asap canada show. on 2.

small world....
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Post by: Philjonc on Aug 06, 2017 at 07:04 PM
Naglabas na naman ng tv ratings ang gma, syempre angat sila sa abs.
Ang lakas kasi ng signal ng gma, meron office samin  inside the building sabmay gitna na walang bintana. Gumamit sila ng tvplus, ayun naging GMA TvPlus, as in walang makuhang signal from abs or any other channels other than GMA and gmatv and one shoptv.
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Post by: bumblebee on Aug 06, 2017 at 07:20 PM
Nasa abs na si aljur. Another world class talent.
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Post by: oznola on Aug 06, 2017 at 07:50 PM
You forgot to put "less" after class and talent. Lol
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Aug 06, 2017 at 08:05 PM
You forgot to put "less" after class and talent. Lol
ha ha.. ;D
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Post by: sdsmds on Aug 06, 2017 at 08:10 PM
You forgot to put "less" after class and talent. Lol
+1
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Post by: bumblebee on Aug 06, 2017 at 08:12 PM
High talent yan kasi nga high budget nga raw.
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Post by: bumblebee on Aug 06, 2017 at 08:34 PM
Isa pang high talent yan. Nasa kanya na ang lahat e.
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Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 06, 2017 at 09:16 PM
http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/multimedia/slideshow/05/31/17/in-photos-20-kapuso-turned-kapamilya-stars

May natitira pa ba sa GMA? Halos lahat ng sikat o dating sikat nasa 2 na.
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Post by: sdsmds on Aug 12, 2017 at 05:12 PM
i saw Arnel Pineda sa eat bulaga singing w/ young boy contestants. after the signing interview sya ni allan k....show some respect naman, hes an international rock star
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Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2017 at 12:32 AM
i saw Arnel Pineda sa eat bulaga singing w/ young boy contestants. after the signing interview sya ni allan k....show some respect naman, hes an international rock star
bakit hinipuan ba?  seriously anong ginawa?
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Aug 13, 2017 at 01:23 AM
parang nagmukhang baguhan sa acting si Aljur sa Probinsyano.
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Post by: mbtorn on Aug 13, 2017 at 01:34 AM
parang nagmukhang baguhan sa acting si Aljur sa Probinsyano.

dati ng "ham actor" maski nasa gma pa sya...tuod umarte
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Aug 13, 2017 at 01:36 AM
dati ng "ham actor" maski nasa gma pa sya...tuod umarte
ha ha..dito ko lang napansin nung nalipat sa 2..magaling pa si Aura eh.. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 13, 2017 at 02:53 AM
dati ng "ham actor" maski nasa gma pa sya...tuod umarte
bakit sa personal mukhang maarte hahaha

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Post by: Tempter on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:57 AM
http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/multimedia/slideshow/05/31/17/in-photos-20-kapuso-turned-kapamilya-stars

May natitira pa ba sa GMA? Halos lahat ng sikat o dating sikat nasa 2 na.

GMA is on the verge of destruction... ;D
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Post by: Hitman on Aug 14, 2017 at 05:56 AM
Dapat maging news, travel and lifestyle channel na lang ang gma.
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Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 03, 2017 at 10:48 AM
ABS is good in doing teleserye & the actors are more known to the filipinos than GMAs. GMA pa rin coz of EB. Parang yun nalang nagpabuhay sa network  :D
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Post by: oweidah on Sep 03, 2017 at 11:06 AM
EB is not even gma owned.
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Post by: tony on Sep 03, 2017 at 11:40 AM
Duterte cronies will take over GMA...
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Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Sep 03, 2017 at 12:21 PM
EB is not even gma owned.

Yes TAPE is probably paying the hourly spot every lunchtime & I think its a big lift for GMAs ratings coz of millions of audiences have their eyes glued to the TV every noontime
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Post by: traveler69 on Sep 03, 2017 at 03:21 PM
ABS is good in doing teleserye & the actors are more known to the filipinos than GMAs.

+1

I travel to many countries several times a year. Whenever I meet Pinoy friends or family members during my trips, I get queries about ABS-CBN talents all the time. Bihira yung talents sa GMA.

In the US, for instance, where The Filipino Channel (TFC) is very popular, Pinoy fans are pretty interested in ABS-CBN talents. And yearly many organized Filipino communities invite these talents to celebrate with them in huge gatherings or for a show. There's a big Filipino community, for example, in Florida and I always see ABS-CBN talents in their annual April festivities.
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Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 08, 2017 at 10:14 AM
Because of netflix and sports channels, we seldom watch na local channels.. but whenever we get a chance, abs cbn pa rin mas ok, asap, showtime, voice.. pero pag news, automatic ako sa news tv, state of the nation with jessica soho 9pm.
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Post by: anya618 on Oct 18, 2017 at 08:06 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yJ6DY3QdB18/WeSY7w1DF0I/AAAAAAACLIQ/YdnQrMLQ9Q87a3Q2U1vevcRixeBr8rcUQCLcBGAs/s1600/image-0-02-06-dba6fadcb308eaac72b5b6df0afc7ffe06356591e3be22a81f7318680e835305-V.jpg)
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Post by: sdsmds on Jan 15, 2018 at 11:37 PM
Tagal na akong Hindi nag watch ng local channel, tried now sa news both abs & gma nainip ako sa haba ng commercials. Back to movies na lang
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Post by: traveler69 on Jan 19, 2018 at 01:47 PM
Tagal na akong Hindi nag watch ng local channel, tried now sa news both abs & gma nainip ako sa haba ng commercials. Back to movies na lang

Same here. The commercials are long and annoying. So I end up switching to other channels or watch straight international news via internet streaming.

A little off-topic, but I noticed that UNTV has a better mix of primetime news material. Not a hodge-podge of too many CCTV news clips which eat up most of their air time.
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Post by: puffalan84 on Jan 19, 2018 at 02:03 PM
same here.. netflix or youtube na lng.. but I tried watching TV yesterday since madami free channels ang sky..
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Post by: sdsmds on Jan 19, 2018 at 02:51 PM
Same here. The commercials are long and annoying. So I end up switching to other channels or watch straight international news via internet streaming.

A little off-topic, but I noticed that UNTV has a better mix of primetime news material. Not a hodge-podge of too many CCTV news clips which eat up most of their air time.
local station ang malupet sa commercial, greedy!!!
tapos ang claim eh public srvice...sabagay showing tons of commercial to inform the gen public
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Post by: JeromeA on Jan 19, 2018 at 03:54 PM
ako pag commercial nanonood ako ng o shopping. hahaha. although di na ko masyado mahilig manood ng TV ngayon
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Post by: anya618 on Feb 26, 2018 at 08:35 AM
(https://scontent.fmnl3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28168204_2286347211643787_701454991592355138_n.jpg?oh=bfc63432ed778603fa0fcbdcd25a55a3&oe=5B16122D)
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Post by: Stagea on Feb 26, 2018 at 10:01 AM
LOL... Sino kaya may kasalanan. Nasagi car ko ng ABS-CBN news vehicle before tinry pa tumakbo, though matagal na yun 16 years ago na ata.
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Post by: thebat on Mar 08, 2018 at 01:01 PM
In hot water nanaman ang ABS CBN for their new Teleserye titled - BAGANI.
NCIP to ABS-CBN: 'Immediately rectify' portrayal of Bagani in teleserye
https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/197594-national-commission-indigenous-peoples-warning-abscbn-bagani
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Post by: Tempter on Mar 08, 2018 at 01:10 PM
In hot water nanaman ang ABS CBN for their new Teleserye titled - BAGANI.
NCIP to ABS-CBN: 'Immediately rectify' portrayal of Bagani in teleserye
https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/197594-national-commission-indigenous-peoples-warning-abscbn-bagani

Yeah right hehe! Mga taong masyadong maraming libreng oras... ;D
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Post by: bumblebee on Mar 08, 2018 at 01:26 PM
It's actually their job.
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Post by: Tempter on Mar 08, 2018 at 03:21 PM
It's actually their job.

And nothing better to do.
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Post by: thebat on Mar 08, 2018 at 04:08 PM
This one from CHED:
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/264316/p2fb-bagani-teleserye-under-fire-from-ched-commissioner-for-misuse-of-term
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Post by: bumblebee on Mar 08, 2018 at 04:17 PM
And nothing better to do.

Wag na kasi ipilit.
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Post by: Tempter on Mar 08, 2018 at 06:35 PM
Yeah right... ;D
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Post by: anya618 on Apr 02, 2018 at 06:25 AM
Top 5 ABS-CBN artists who transferred to GMA this 2018  (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/celebrity/top-5-abs-cbn-artists-who-transferred-to-gma-this-2018/ar-AAviXkc?ocid=spartandhp)
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Post by: tony on Apr 04, 2018 at 06:13 AM
oks lang yan....para naman kumita ang GMA...
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Post by: JeromeA on Apr 04, 2018 at 07:07 AM
tinapos lang ni john ang the good son ah. saka si wendell yung wildflower.
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Post by: puffalan84 on Apr 04, 2018 at 09:05 AM
i watch the good son when i get a chance, , parang magaling yun 1 batang actor..
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Post by: anya618 on Apr 04, 2018 at 09:29 AM
di ba kayo nagtataka kung bakit di matapos tapos yung "ang probinsiyano"?
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Post by: tony on Apr 04, 2018 at 10:09 AM
nagre rating kasi...
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Post by: anya618 on Apr 04, 2018 at 10:11 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/dntrVhS.jpg)
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Post by: viper on Jun 14, 2018 at 10:21 AM
It is always a good sign to have a healthy competition between the two networks. However with the threat by the current administration to withhold ABS CBN's renewal of franchise by a beholden congress, dirty politics have reared its head with the media giant under the gun. Let us see what happens next.
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 12, 2018 at 01:09 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dh0cFheXkAAbb2Q.jpg:large)  >:D
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Post by: sgxp97 on Jul 19, 2018 at 04:20 PM
gma has the best bekis and beki-bekihan: Boobay, Kris Tetay, Nar Cabico to name a few.
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Post by: anya618 on Aug 08, 2018 at 05:54 AM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t8wwq7G0_-A/W2lOFuczKtI/AAAAAAACfrQ/3lWHJ0p6WlYIRyNxsQ39t9I6vyYcOGMTgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180807_144604.jpg)
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Aug 17, 2018 at 08:24 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t8wwq7G0_-A/W2lOFuczKtI/AAAAAAACfrQ/3lWHJ0p6WlYIRyNxsQ39t9I6vyYcOGMTgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180807_144604.jpg)

hahaha!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: JeromeA on Aug 21, 2018 at 02:07 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahhahaa

panoorin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0_Qs7SvJe0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0_Qs7SvJe0)
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 01, 2018 at 11:32 PM
(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBMJ22o.img?h=1080&w=1920&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f)
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Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 22, 2018 at 01:11 PM
Yung Ang Probinsyano parang nagiging mala Jack Bauer ang storyline hehe
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Post by: dpogs on Sep 22, 2018 at 01:36 PM
talo ng showtime ang eat bulaga  :o :o :o
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Post by: t-bone on Sep 22, 2018 at 02:25 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t8wwq7G0_-A/W2lOFuczKtI/AAAAAAACfrQ/3lWHJ0p6WlYIRyNxsQ39t9I6vyYcOGMTgCLcBGAs/s1600/20180807_144604.jpg)

Hairy Poque talaga :D
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Post by: sdsmds on Sep 22, 2018 at 02:32 PM
Yung Broadway Boys ng eat bulaga kinanta kanina some Toto songs OMG binaboy hahaha...  kung member ako ng Toto ill sue them all hahaha

Wrong choice of songs sa tingin ko
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 22, 2018 at 02:34 PM
Yung Ang Probinsyano parang nagiging mala Jack Bauer ang storyline hehe

yung walang katapusang malas tapos di maubos ubos ang kontrabida?  >:D
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Post by: sdsmds on Sep 22, 2018 at 02:36 PM
yung walang katapusang malas tapos di maubos ubos ang kontrabida?  >:D
Si choco martin ang bida? Bwahaha
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Post by: bumblebee on Sep 22, 2018 at 05:22 PM
Si choco martin ang bida? Bwahaha

Yung panay ang zoom in sa mukha?
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Post by: t-bone on Sep 22, 2018 at 06:06 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/vfwikxyww9701.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&s=da34314e83d53ae010b59897e4d2955bf73f845f)
GMA because....
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Post by: yapoy86 on Sep 22, 2018 at 07:02 PM
(https://preview.redd.it/vfwikxyww9701.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&s=da34314e83d53ae010b59897e4d2955bf73f845f)
GMA because....

Si ogie diaz yata naka dikober dyan kay liza soberano eh.. napaka gandang bata..
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Post by: krets pulpol on Sep 24, 2018 at 04:25 PM
Pansin ko pati sa Ang Probinsyano, they are trying to revive stars from before. Yung mga nalaos na then giving them another chance in showbusiness, which is good I guess helping them out. Yung nakulong na dating child actor CJ ata yun pati si Mystica.

Sana andun din si Madame Auring hahaha

Tingin ko mabait 'tong si Choco Martin sa labas ng showbiz.
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Post by: sdsmds on Sep 24, 2018 at 04:32 PM
Pansin ko pati sa Ang Probinsyano, they are trying to revive stars from before. Yung mga nalaos na then giving them another chance in showbusiness, which is good I guess helping them out. Yung nakulong na dating child actor CJ ata yun pati si Mystica.

Sana andun din si Madame Auring hahaha

Tingin ko mabait 'tong si Choco Martin sa labas ng showbiz.
Sa tingin ko Bro sa haba ng story naubusan na ng artists kaya kinikuha na kahit sino...yung mag amang lapid balita ko kinuha din. Eto malamang politics eto kse tatakbo ang mag ama sa next coming election.
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Post by: jas on Sep 24, 2018 at 05:11 PM
Pansin ko pati sa Ang Probinsyano, they are trying to revive stars from before. Yung mga nalaos na then giving them another chance in showbusiness, which is good I guess helping them out. Yung nakulong na dating child actor CJ ata yun pati si Mystica.

Sana andun din si Madame Auring hahaha

Tingin ko mabait 'tong si Choco Martin sa labas ng showbiz.

Siguro mas mura kasi ang talent fee nila as compared to currently popular actors..... >:D
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Post by: Koolkat on Sep 26, 2018 at 06:35 AM
Ang alam ko si Mystica nagmakaawa kay Coco na kunin siya kasi wala na siyang racket.
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Post by: anya618 on Sep 26, 2018 at 07:08 AM
Siguro mas mura kasi ang talent fee nila as compared to currently popular actors..... >:D

most likely, tapos kahit mura talent fee kakagatin nila kesa wala
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Post by: JeromeA on Sep 26, 2018 at 07:25 AM
tumutulong talaga si coco sa mga laos na mga artista. tama sabi ni koolkat.

napakabait na tao yang si coco. kapitbahay ko ngayon ang personal assistant nyan, sya mismo nagkukwento gaano kabait si coco at kung gaano ka strikto pagdating sa pera ng mga tinutulungan nya.
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Post by: puffalan84 on Sep 26, 2018 at 10:02 AM
tumutulong talaga si coco sa mga laos na mga artista. tama sabi ni koolkat.

napakabait na tao yang si coco. kapitbahay ko ngayon ang personal assistant nyan, sya mismo nagkukwento gaano kabait si coco at kung gaano ka strikto pagdating sa pera ng mga tinutulungan nya.

so parang si FPJ din pala in real life..
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Post by: oweidah on Sep 30, 2018 at 06:57 AM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/list/tag/abs-cbn-ball

may pantapat ba
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Post by: JeromeA on Sep 30, 2018 at 10:14 AM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/list/tag/abs-cbn-ball

may pantapat ba

napanood ko ng live kagabi to via KBO. haha.
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Post by: JeromeA on Sep 30, 2018 at 10:15 AM
so parang si FPJ din pala in real life..

idol na idol nya talaga siguro si FPJ. wag lang syang tatakbong presidente. hahaha
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Post by: oweidah on Sep 30, 2018 at 10:39 AM
regine lipat jump ship ?
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Post by: jas on Oct 03, 2018 at 09:39 AM
Slightly OT:

Press statement on ABS-CBN Store and UAAP store websites

ABS-CBN has temporarily taken down the ABS-CBN Store (store.abs-cbn.com) and the UAAP Store (uaapstore.com) websites today (19 Sep 2018) at 9:30 AM following a report of a data breach of its online shopping facility.

Personal information and credit card details of our customers may have been exposed.

As of this time, there are 213 customers who may have been affected. However, the investigation is still ongoing.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/09/19/18/press-statement-on-abs-cbn-store-and-uaap-store-websites
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Post by: oweidah on Oct 21, 2018 at 05:37 AM
may natira pa bang singer sa gma?
jumping sinking ship?
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Post by: JeromeA on Oct 21, 2018 at 09:50 AM
may natira pa bang singer sa gma?
jumping sinking ship?

meron si alden.hahahhahahaha
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Post by: Hitman on Oct 21, 2018 at 10:16 AM
Vice ganda-abueva magjowa daw?
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Post by: sgxp97 on Oct 22, 2018 at 12:06 PM
Wala naman pinapasok na pera mga singers kaya, trophy lang sa GMA dati si Regine.
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Post by: JeromeA on Oct 22, 2018 at 01:22 PM
Vice ganda-abueva magjowa daw?

yes!
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Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 22, 2018 at 04:07 PM
may natira pa ba sa GMA? si Bitoy na lang ata at yung Eat Bulaga cast eh.
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Post by: oweidah on Oct 22, 2018 at 04:17 PM
not owned by gma un eatbaluga
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Post by: Tempter on Oct 22, 2018 at 11:39 PM
Tama, GMA = Sinking Ship

Malapit na rin umalis jan ang EB, antayin nyo lang. ;D
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Post by: JeromeA on Oct 23, 2018 at 10:23 PM
anyare sa GMA? sahil wala na si regine pinakanta nila si marian, hindi alam ang lyrics, pati si marian mismo natawa..  di ko mahanap ang clip sa youtube. bago ba yun? o luma na.
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Post by: sgxp97 on Oct 24, 2018 at 12:06 AM
uy may mga pumapatol pa sa network war ditwo, alam na dwis!
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Post by: neilc on Oct 24, 2018 at 06:27 AM
may natira pa ba sa GMA? si Bitoy na lang ata at yung Eat Bulaga cast eh.
EB is not owned by GMA. They can pull out and transfer to other networks if they want to.

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Post by: krets pulpol on Oct 24, 2018 at 05:23 PM
sorry, that was more of a pun. I mean sino na lang natira sa GMA? halos naglipatan na ang mga talent nila sa ABS eh.

Ang problema naman sa ABS, saturated na rin ang mga talent na matagal ang ikot bago magka project or more screen time. Kaya yung ibang hindi napagbibigyan takbo naman sa GMA.

Kung mahina ang manager mo at hindi marunong mambraso sa executives tingin ko masasapawan ka hanggang makalimutan ka na. Battling for screen time lalo na sa prime time. Kasi kung wala kang show wala kang sweldo, tama ba?

Si Johnny Manahan ang big honcho ng ABS for talent eh.
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Post by: bumblebee on Oct 24, 2018 at 07:21 PM
If GMA is wise, they'd get independent productions. Baka manood na ko uli pag ganun.
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Post by: halvert on Oct 24, 2018 at 07:53 PM
Yung kay marian, luma ba yun. Just shared again for fun.
Sana kasi wala nang network war, kung saan may trabaho, dun ka. Sa states nga pwede ka mag-promote sa tonight show ng palabas mo sa ibang channel, and you can say the name of the channel!
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Post by: sgxp97 on Oct 24, 2018 at 10:47 PM
ABSCBN nagsimula nyang network war, unang nagpaexclusive contracts, gusto kasi i-monopolize din ng mga Lopez ang media, tapos may mga manok sa pulitika at bias sa pagbabalita, gustong maging royal family huh
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Post by: Kakashi03 on Oct 24, 2018 at 10:52 PM
GMA for Documentary like "Reporters Notebook , I- Witness , Investigative Documentary"
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Post by: JeromeA on Oct 25, 2018 at 06:11 AM
eto yung ky marian.. panoorin nyo ang idol nyo. hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE)
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Post by: halvert on Oct 28, 2018 at 04:35 PM
Pero yung GMA, yung award-winning docu shows nila, nasa channel 24 na pala, yung GMA news tv, at hindi pa maganda yung timeslot! Yung i-witness, 11:30pm!?!  Mas inuna pa yung movies! The irony of it all
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Post by: dpogs on Oct 28, 2018 at 05:10 PM
eto yung ky marian.. panoorin nyo ang idol nyo. hahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeysnoMObqE)

Blocked  >:D

"This video contains content fr GMA who has blocked it in your country on copyrights ground."

LOL di kinaya ng GMA ang power ni marian kumanta. Ahahaha
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Post by: oznola on Oct 28, 2018 at 09:18 PM
^same?

https://youtu.be/rk2npsDtJKA
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Post by: thebat on Nov 18, 2018 at 03:00 PM
Wala pa lang Ang Probinsyano thread dito? :-)
Matindi pala away ng PNP vs Ang Probinsyano. Entertaining away nila.
Yari Ang Probinsyano production cause PNP are withdrawing their resources being used in the production. Mahihirapan na rin sila makakuha ng police clearance sa mga shoots nila.
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Post by: oweidah on Nov 18, 2018 at 05:44 PM
maraming fans ang probinsyano, pwede backlash sa 2019 kkina bato. may katotohanan ba sa image portrayed? ayusin nnila ang hanay para hindi ganon portrayal sa kanila
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Post by: dpogs on Nov 18, 2018 at 08:20 PM
Wala pa lang Ang Probinsyano thread dito? :-)
Matindi pala away ng PNP vs Ang Probinsyano. Entertaining away nila.
Yari Ang Probinsyano production cause PNP are withdrawing their resources being used in the production. Mahihirapan na rin sila makakuha ng police clearance sa mga shoots nila.

Pati ba naman tv shows binablackmail ng mga pulis. Tsk. Tsk.
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Post by: anya618 on Nov 23, 2018 at 06:17 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h22hThV2rIc/W_aElKrODoI/AAAAAAACmcs/PR64JQFfg8Yf9CNVNp4lAeIS1lM0VQCpwCLcBGAs/s1600/20181122_174550.png)
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 23, 2018 at 07:20 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h22hThV2rIc/W_aElKrODoI/AAAAAAACmcs/PR64JQFfg8Yf9CNVNp4lAeIS1lM0VQCpwCLcBGAs/s1600/20181122_174550.png)

plastic talaga tong mga to.. suportado naman na daw.
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Post by: oweidah on Nov 23, 2018 at 08:17 AM
welcome to d real world hahaha
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Post by: oweidah on Mar 30, 2019 at 10:39 AM
https://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/03/29/19/ratings-cardo-leaps-to-highest-so-far-in-2019

pagtapos ng eleksyon, sino kaya manalo
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Post by: oweidah on Apr 04, 2019 at 07:01 AM
c cardo ....hahaha  >:D O0
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Post by: krets pulpol on May 15, 2019 at 06:32 PM
https://www.rappler.com/business/230712-abs-cbn-gma-earnings-report-q1-2019

tabo!
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 06, 2019 at 08:04 AM
my TVplus Go na pala galing ah

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters (https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters)
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jun 06, 2019 at 09:37 AM
my TVplus Go na pala galing ah

https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters (https://news.abs-cbn.com/business/06/03/19/abs-cbn-tvplus-go-brings-digital-entertainment-to-commuters)

Kaya pala panay paalala ng GMA 7 na mag re scan ng tv box para makita sila.. hihi.. tapos panay pa labas ng commercial na mas malaki daw audience share nila compared sa kapamilya.. haller.. wala nga silang tv plus eh..
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Post by: anya618 on Jun 13, 2019 at 11:47 AM
House of Representatives freezes ABS-CBN franchise renewal (https://www.pep.ph/news/143850/house-of-representatives-freezes-abs-cbn-franchise-renewal-a718-20190612)
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Post by: wheelee on Jun 13, 2019 at 12:05 PM
House of Representatives freezes ABS-CBN franchise renewal (https://www.pep.ph/news/143850/house-of-representatives-freezes-abs-cbn-franchise-renewal-a718-20190612)

they can do that?
On what grounds daw?
in opis kasi now
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Post by: oznola on Jun 13, 2019 at 01:03 PM
^was in talks with retired GMA 7 big wigs a few weeks back about that. The license to broadcast of ABS CBN will be expiring at the end of the year and it seems the administration is not gonna be renewing it.

They think IBC 13 will be revived.

Coincidental article i found : http://manilastandard.net/showbitz/celebrity-profiles/289774/kat-de-castro-vows-to-revitalize-ibc-13.html

De Castro (Noli) is a known ally of Gloria Macapagal

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Post by: jjjeronimo on Jun 13, 2019 at 01:29 PM
^probably paving the way for a "fire sale" to a crony of the admin, just like what happened with Philweb.
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 13, 2019 at 02:41 PM
weder.weder

marcos sequestered abscbn
cory gave it back to d lopezs
now dilaw out...
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Post by: krets pulpol on Jun 13, 2019 at 06:07 PM
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1130011/arroyo-on-abs-cbn-franchise-our-sessions-are-over
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Post by: Hitman on Jun 13, 2019 at 07:19 PM
Pera pera lang yan. Big time kotong.
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Post by: tony on Jun 13, 2019 at 07:24 PM
malaki gagastusin ni abs cbn, malaki kikitin ng mga tao ni burat...
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 13, 2019 at 11:33 PM
ang masaklap lang nito puro na kmjs nito. haha
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Post by: oweidah on Jun 20, 2019 at 09:56 PM
if ever, may liability ba gma sa aksidente ni manoy?
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Post by: jas on Jul 17, 2019 at 09:55 AM
Netizens slam ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of female cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142258/netizens-slam-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-female-cops

PNP may revoke pact with ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of lady cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142355/pnp-may-revoke-pact-with-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-lady-cops
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Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 17, 2019 at 09:58 AM
Netizens slam ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of female cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142258/netizens-slam-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-female-cops

PNP may revoke pact with ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of lady cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142355/pnp-may-revoke-pact-with-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-lady-cops

ang "nana" naman nitong mga ito, tv series masyadong sini-seryoso!
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 17, 2019 at 11:16 AM
Netizens slam ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of female cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142258/netizens-slam-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-female-cops

PNP may revoke pact with ‘Ang Probinsyano’ for rape scene of lady cops

https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1142355/pnp-may-revoke-pact-with-ang-probinsyano-for-rape-scene-of-lady-cops

marami talaga aalma dito. dapat ilipat ng oras ang probinsyano. kasi hindi na sya pambata eh.
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Post by: tony on Jul 17, 2019 at 05:45 PM
yang kardong burat na yan, dapat tigilan na nya....
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 17, 2019 at 06:19 PM
yang kardong burat na yan, dapat tigilan na nya....

nakakalimutan na ata nila sir tony na ang timeslot nila oras ng panonood ng mga bata,.
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Post by: halvert on Jul 17, 2019 at 07:10 PM
kung hindi dahil sa probinsyano, hindi na dapat nakabalik sa pulitika si lito lapid...
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 17, 2019 at 07:33 PM
kung hindi dahil sa probinsyano, hindi na dapat nakabalik sa pulitika si lito lapid...

marami din nagawang mabuti sir, hindi lang ky lito lapid. maraming natulungan na laos na artista. kaso ang problema sumobra naman.
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 26, 2019 at 10:17 AM
'Goin Bulilit' to end after 14 years on air (https://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/07/25/19/goin-bulilit-to-end-after-14-years-on-air)
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Post by: anya618 on Jul 28, 2019 at 06:14 AM
‘Unang Hirit’ anchor Rhea Santos is saying goodbye to GMA News (https://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertainment/celebrity/unang-hirit-anchor-rhea-santos-is-saying-goodbye-to-gma-news/ar-AAEWg93?ocid=spartandhp)
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Post by: JeromeA on Jul 28, 2019 at 07:33 AM
'Goin Bulilit' to end after 14 years on air (https://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/07/25/19/goin-bulilit-to-end-after-14-years-on-air)

this is better than GMA's Bubblegang
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Post by: dpogs on Jul 28, 2019 at 12:00 PM
this is better than GMA's Bubblegang

Bubble Gang = tv porn :) :)
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Post by: JeromeA on Aug 06, 2019 at 12:58 AM
Bubble Gang = tv porn :) :)

hahaha. +1 for that.
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Post by: Koolkat on Aug 07, 2019 at 06:54 AM
I'm really surprised that Bubble Gang cant still get away with their jokes this day and age of political correctness.

Hindi na ako nakakanood nito religiously. But when I do watch their skits sa Youtube, tawa pa rin ako ng tawa!
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Post by: krets pulpol on Aug 07, 2019 at 08:25 AM
Creative writers Bitoy (Michael V.) and the rest like Cesar Cosme and other writers should be credited for their wits and humor. Some gags are original some are just copied from other sources abroad. Credit goes to them sans Ogie Alcasid because they are gifted with real comic timing.

Depende rin yan sa actors who can portray the joke kasi karamihan wala eh.
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Post by: JeromeA on Oct 25, 2019 at 01:15 PM
during opening ng showtime my lumabas na dede. haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLw4zAXRLjQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLw4zAXRLjQ)

bakla daw pala to..
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Post by: tony on Oct 30, 2019 at 07:26 AM
abs-cbn puts out a lot of garbage...sayang pera....
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Post by: Hitman on Nov 02, 2019 at 08:17 PM
Bamboo is soooo overrated! Just a glorified yeller!
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Post by: t-bone on Nov 02, 2019 at 10:02 PM
Bamboo is soooo overrated! Just a glorified yeller!

Mabenta sya sa mga masa.

I went to a corporate event before where he performed, the waiters were enjoying Bamboo more than the audience

:D
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Post by: tony on Nov 03, 2019 at 06:52 AM
abs programing is rubbish, even their news and public affairs are run just like another soap opera on tv....GMA has more to offer...
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Post by: Hitman on Nov 03, 2019 at 09:42 AM
Kung pagkain ang abs sobrang tamis na gustong gusto ng panlasang pinoy. Gma naman ang tabang. News and current affairs lang maganda sa gma.
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 03, 2019 at 09:51 AM
by march matatapos narin sa wakas ang cardo!
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Post by: anya618 on Nov 03, 2019 at 10:39 AM
Tapos maglalabas ang ABS ng prequel story ni Cardo

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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 03, 2019 at 10:44 AM
Tapos maglalabas ang ABS ng prequel story ni Cardo

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ayaw na ni cardo mag director. napapagod na daw sya. haha. baka ang panday naman gagawin nila.

nagkakasawaan na daw eh. according sa kapitbahay ko na PA ni coco.
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Post by: tony on Nov 03, 2019 at 11:02 AM
their plots insults the intelligence, kahit pa alam natin na make believe lang....

saka yung umaway sa kanila na cpnp albayalde, hepe pala ng ninja cop....ako ma si kardo, malulumbay ako...
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Post by: JeromeA on Nov 03, 2019 at 11:19 AM
their plots insults the intelligence, kahit pa alam natin na make believe lang....

saka yung umaway sa kanila na cpnp albayalde, hepe pala ng ninja cop....ako ma si kardo, malulumbay ako...

saka hindi na pambata ang cardo. dapat talaga tapusin na yun. matindi nga eh ang cardo nilagay sa pambatang slot. tapos ang starla nasa pang matandang slot. baliktad ata
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Post by: krets pulpol on Dec 03, 2019 at 08:53 PM
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1197664/duterte-to-abs-cbn-i-will-see-to-it-that-you-are-out
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Post by: anya618 on Dec 04, 2019 at 02:12 PM
https://www.wheninmanila.com/watch-umagang-kay-ganda-hosts-greet-unang-hirit-on-their-20th-anniversary/?fbclid=IwAR3d4DZpX2l91FzEHav_PUbkbE193wLO3WOKfHjnk0PQrg-n-Pp6YkiH3Qg
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Post by: tony on Dec 06, 2019 at 07:12 AM
the news and public affairs of GMA7 i would say beats abs-cbn big time....with abs cbn it is all about the personalities like kabayan, ted failon ka tunying etc.....

even UNTV's news and public affairs programs are far better...
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Post by: anya618 on Dec 19, 2019 at 05:42 AM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TxPG4zA32yQ/Xfpi-DvsIjI/AAAAAAAC_rM/CDrnJ33D8xkegcPA-pdTcvHCQ9WaG9A4wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/20191219_013236.jpg)
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Post by: JeromeA on Dec 23, 2019 at 08:38 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TxPG4zA32yQ/Xfpi-DvsIjI/AAAAAAAC_rM/CDrnJ33D8xkegcPA-pdTcvHCQ9WaG9A4wCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/20191219_013236.jpg)

 ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: tony on Dec 30, 2019 at 08:37 AM
isara na yang abs cbn na yan, hindi na nakaka entertain si kardo dalisay....
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Post by: jas on Jan 09, 2020 at 07:13 AM
Joey de Leon gets flak after cracking lewd joke on air

Comedian Joey de Leon trended on Twitter on Tuesday, January 7, after cracking a lewd joke during a segment on noontime show Eat Bulaga.

During the show's "Bawal Judgmental" segment, Joey and co-host Allan K were interviewing a Miss Millennial 2018 candidate who returned to the show as a judge in the segment. Danna Rose Socaoco, who was first runner-up in Miss Millennial 2018, now works as a flight attendant.

Joey complimented her legs on air and later said, "Sana masakyan kita isang araw (I hope to ride you one day),"

The double entendre was definitely not okay with people online.

https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/248715-joey-de-leon-gets-flak-green-joke-january-2020
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Post by: jas on Mar 14, 2020 at 01:28 PM
Statement on ABS-CBN programming

ABS-CBN is temporarily suspending the staging of its live entertainment shows and production of its teleseryes starting Sunday (March 15) in compliance with the government’s declaration of a community quarantine and ban on mass gatherings to contain the spread of COVID-19.

The company is taking this initiative for the safety and health of our artists, crew, production teams, their families, and the general public.

While this measure is in place, ABS-CBN will continue to serve our audiences by bringing back well-loved shows to help provide inspiration, hope, and upliftment.

We assure the public that ABS-CBN will continue to bring the latest news and information through our TV and radio newscasts and digital platforms, especially at this time when the country is facing a public health crisis.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/03/13/20/statement-on-abs-cbn-programming
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Post by: sdsmds on Mar 14, 2020 at 01:40 PM
Thanks God. Sana pati gma 7
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Post by: jas on Mar 15, 2020 at 05:24 PM
GMA 7 announces temporary suspension of entertainment program production

GMA 7 announced on Saturday, March 14 that the network will temporarily suspend the production of its network entertainment shows following the declaration of a community quarantine in Metro Manila.

https://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/253810-gma-temporary-suspension-entertainment-programs-coronavirus-metro-manila-lockdown
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Post by: oweidah on Mar 23, 2020 at 12:56 AM
nice digital concert @abscbn