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DVD Forum => DVD-ROM & DVD Backup => Topic started by: anya618 on Oct 20, 2008 at 07:17 PM
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me advantage ba ang internal over external hdd?
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me advantage ba ang internal over external hdd?
pag para sa nmt. ang advantage lang nanakikita ko is, you will be able to use the network capabilities of your nmt, like downloading through torrents, directly connect to flickr and saya tv etc. sa external hindi pwede, watch video, listen to music and look at pictures lang. and of course less clutter ang internal hdd. but for me since maliit lang pareho ang foot print ng nmt and external hdd, oks lang. iba ba rin that the nmt is running cooler. and of course internal hdd usually cost lower.
although if you get the egreat, my internal fan na sya, kaya it runs cooler even with internal hdd. kasi popcorn, walang internal fan, unless ipa-mod mo, meron na dito naka gawa ng internal fan mod for popcorn.
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In usual cases now, external drives are connected via USB 2.0 while internal hard drives are through SATA. So for me, the biggest advantages of an internal drive are:
a. speed of data transfer, especially if you are copying or moving really large chunks of data.
b. price
c. less burden on your system
The biggest advantage of an external drive is mobility and convenient interchangeability. If you have multiple PCs or NMTs in the house, it's quite expedient to have a couple of external drives so that members of the family can enjoy watchin their own stuff. For archiving purpose, external drives are also better suitable as you dont have to power up the device all the time.
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salamat sa input sir iiinas and Clondalkin ;D
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if you have an option to purchase an external HDD with an ESATA port, this would be a very big advantage. :)
mobility is the reason why we purchase external hdd, so i would prefer internal HDD, unless i need to move it most of the time .. :)
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ESata is highly recommended. ;D
Imagine moving files at 150Mbs. :o
However, there's one setback. :P
Your MoBo has to support it, otherwise, nunca. :'(
The cheapest enclosure with an esata is the Ovation Enclosure.
At most times, it comes with a WD HDD(250/500/750G).
Prices of the enclosures hover around 1.5K to 2.5K and you can find one at the PC shops in Gilmore or Mega Mall, with an incorporated HDD, goes for 6K. ;)
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ESata is highly recommended. ;D
Imagine moving files at 150Mbs. :o
However, there's one setback. :P
Your MoBo has to support it, otherwise, nunca. :'(
The cheapest enclosure with an esata is the Ovation Enclosure.
At most times, it comes with a WD HDD(250/500/750G).
Prices of the enclosures hover around 1.5K to 2.5K and you can find one at the PC shops in Gilmore or Mega Mall, with an incorporated HDD, goes for 6K. ;)
you can get a sata to esata adapter .. costs around 300 pesos .. :)
(http://www.satacable.com/images/sata-2-esata-dual-pci-port-bracket.jpg)
this is what i got .. comes with power molex for internal hdd full sata 2 speeds .. :)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jC16UsYVL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
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The above came free with my Ovation enclosure, however, when I installed it on my MSI Neo MoBo,there was no support,the OS simply won't recognized the external drive and despite the numerous updates I did...Nunca...still no support, hence, I searched for possible drivers and solutions(since I thought it was software based),and from various forums, that I gathered, it stated that only the Asus company gave driver support for their dual core based MoBo. :P
So with my 2 desktop, I can only use the 2.0USB with my Ovation and I can only utilize the esata only on my Acer X3200. :-\
Anyway, will just keep on modifying. ;) ;D
Or rather...build another PC. ;)
BTW....good news for those who had bulit theri pcs just the start of this year, all can fully support esata despite having XP as your OS. ;) ;D ;D
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ESata is highly recommended. ;D
Imagine moving files at 150Mbs. :o
The highest transfer rate I've actually experienced through ESata is between 50-60Mb/sec for chunks of files bigger than 100GB (aggregate). Dont know if it's due to the size of data, or the limitations of my hardware, or Vista, or other applications running simultaneously. But that's fast enough for me. Anything above 25MB/sec sustained is OK.
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The above came free with my Ovation enclosure, however, when I installed it on my MSI Neo MoBo,there was no support, and despite the numerous updates I did...Nunca...still no support, hence, I searched for possible driver and solutions,and from various forums, I came up with the Asus company giving support for their dual core based MoBo. :P
Perhaps a solution would be to use an eSATA PCI card with its own circuitry and drivers, and not just an adapter. Around 1.5K to 2K pesos in Tokyo (multiple eSATA terminals na), maybe meron din sa Gilmore.
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Sabi sa isang forum, kung 40-50mb ka lang daw...eh...parang USB.
Lalo' na kung naka C2D ka daw.
Baka may problema. ;)
Eh' iyun' naman ay' nabasa ko lang.
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Sabi sa isang forum, kung 40-50mb ka lang daw...eh...parang USB.
Lalo' na kung naka C2D ka daw.
Baka may problema. ;)
Eh' iyun' naman ay' nabasa ko lang.
the processors impact on this is very minimal .. the ram size though would be one of the factors here as well as the HDD speed .. :)
btw i am using this right now (with my internal 80gb sata2 hdd),
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41jC16UsYVL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
whenever im copying from my cousins "collection" and i can say it is way faster than usb .. ill try to check it out on friday for the actual speed .. :)
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Sa Vista, maganda...naki-kita ang speed. ;)
Natu-tuwang tignan....parang nag-ka-karera sila
Tuwang tuwa na nga ako sa Vista ko eh'
Dati' die hard XP ako. ;D
BTW...iyun' esata adaptor mo, uso ngayon iyan' sa Gilmore, marami akong naki-kitang nag-pa-pa-kabit.
Mas mabilis daw sa Firewire.....kaya lang, ang video cam naman firewire lang.
Natawa nga ako eh ;D
Siguro future proofing lang sila. ;)
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Sabi sa isang forum, kung 40-50mb ka lang daw...eh...parang USB.
Lalo' na kung naka C2D ka daw.
Baka may problema. ;)
Maybe they dont transfer 1TB data too much...hehehe...(baka ma-BAN)
Even between my 2 internal data drives (both 7200rpm Seagates) na obviously connected through SATA, I can only manage 50-60MB/sec kung maganda panahon. Maybe problem, maybe not, but that's OK with me - kase through Buffalo external drive via USB 2.0 with Turbo USB enabled, I've never seen the speed beyond 35MB/sec sustained.
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Maybe they dont transfer 1TB data too much...hehehe...(baka ma-BAN)
Even between my 2 internal data drives (both 7200rpm Seagates) na obviously connected through SATA, I can only manage 50-60MB/sec kung maganda panahon. Maybe problem, maybe not, but that's OK with me - kase through Buffalo external drive via USB 2.0 with Turbo USB enabled, I've never seen the speed beyond 35MB/sec sustained.
Naka-katawa naman tayo...pinag taluhan pa ang speed. ;D
Eh' sa totoo lang, ang bilis bilis na nang 40mbs, eh' 60 mbs pa. ;D ;D ;D
Hapi-Hapi na lang talaga tayo,dati nga, 4-5kbps lang, na-ko-korupt pa, :P
Masyado lang talaga siguro tayong' na-ba-basa, na-niniwala tayo ga-agad.
Malay mo naman kung totoo iyun' baka bola lang. :(
Pasalamat na-lang tayo, at tayo ay naka-katikim na nang esata. ;) ;D
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Saan ba mas malaki chance ng data corruption, fast transfer or abnormally slow transfer? Minsan parang jeep ang arankada ng speed diba. Unti-unti na parang nabibitin sa paakyat. And kapag masyadong busy ang hard drives sa heavy torrent downloading and uploading, bumabagal din ng husto ang data copying or moving between hard drives.
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I get corrupt files when I do multi-tasking. :'(
for e.g. burning a CD together with transferring >5Gigs,and converting video to MP4 files.
I don't think it's due to the speed of transfer, rather it's the capability of the HDD to handle and write the files. ;)
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I get corrupt files when I do multi-tasking. :'(
for e.g. burning a CD together with transferring >5Gigs,and converting video to MP4 files.
I don't think it's due to the speed of transfer, rather it's the capability of the HDD to handle and write the files. ;)
i agree :)
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I prefer internal drives, because they're a lot cheaper. If you get an external hard drive you don't know what's inside. Is it a 7200 RPM, 5400 RPM, or 4200 RPM drive.
I'm surprised I haven't seen any 2.5" 7200 RPM SATA hard drives locally. 320GB 2.5" 7200 RPM hard drives have been around for a while. 2.5" 500GB hard drives are out now, but I'm waiting for a 2.5" 500GB 7200 RPM drive to be released before I upgrade my laptop.
If you have the money to spare, I'd suggest you get a 2.5" 7200 RPM SATA drive, even if your using it for a desktop. It will have the same performance as a 3.5" drive, will emit less heat, and use less energy.
3.5" SATA enclosure's can be expensive. A cheap alternative would be to get a SATA to USB cable from CD-R King. I got it for 450 pesos, because my mobo's sata ports where filled. They also have a IDE to USB cable for 220 pesos.
SATA to USB
http://cdrking.com/local/products/index.php?action=&temp=2&typeno=8176890-373780-839110596-1439562&prod=IDE/SATA%20Cables&prodcode=3341379-246948-410382915-8619755
IDE to USB
http://cdrking.com/local/products/index.php?action=submnu&temp=2&typeno=8176890-373780-839110596-1439562&prod=IDE/SATA%20Cables&prodcode=6700461-804855-990326070-9149949
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500GB Price Comparison Example:
from PC Gilmore (October 29, 2008 Price)
Internal 500GB 3.5" 7200 RPM SATA Hard Disk
Samsung (3,500 pesos)
Seagate (3,600 pesos)
External 500GB
Western Digital MyBook (4,800 pesos)
Conclusion: Price difference is 1,200-1,300. Seems fare considering prices of external enclosure's, but I don't recommend you getting a 3.5" external drive. Do yourself a favor and read amazon.com reviews for the external drive you want to get before purchasing it. If you really want an external drive get a 2.5" external drive that doesn't require it to be plugged into an AC outlet.
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what's the difference of a 16mb cache to a 32mb cache? do all hdds have this? (internal and external)
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what's the difference of a 16mb cache to a 32mb cache? do all hdds have this? (internal and external)
check this out .. :D
techreport (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13440)
overclock.net (http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/308676-hdd-question-32mb-vs-16mb-cache.html)
dslreports (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20625612-Hard-drive-16mb-vs-32mb-cache-A-gimmick-or-worth-it-)
anandtech (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=27&threadid=2147505)
aremdvna im planning to do that myself .. (2.5 sata as my system drive) :D
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how many years ba usual life ng hard disk? pareho ba for both internal and external?
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how many years ba usual life ng hard disk? pareho ba for both internal and external?
Depende sa gamit mo yan. If you are a heavy downloader na higher than normal ang number of SEEK (or access in and out ng HDD), you're killing the HDD faster than its normal deterioration.
Pero kung mainly storage lang and playback of contents, it should last very long, unless matapatan mo yung lemon.
Advantage of external connection is that you have the option not to power it on, which should extend the life of the HDD assuming the HDD is handled properly (kung internal connection, you dont have to worry about handling because it's screwed firmly in the HDD bay).
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hindi pareho ang drive speed ng internal and external di ba?
if im not mistaken meron 5400 and 7200rpm, malaki ba difference nito sa pag transfer ng data?
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hindi pareho ang drive speed ng internal and external di ba?
if im not mistaken meron 5400 and 7200rpm, malaki ba difference nito sa pag transfer ng data?
yes it is definitely faster. drawback, heat. :)
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yes it is definitely faster. drawback, heat. :)
noticeable ba ung bilis sir?
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noticeable ba ung bilis sir?
What kind of application Anya?
For instance, I have been comparing a variable speed WD Green (5400-7200 RPM) and fixed speed 7200RPM Seagate. SATA to SATA transfer - I cant figure out the advantage of fixed speed 7200RPM. In fact, I'm getting faster sustained data transfer speeds with the WD Green. This was surprising because I was expecting a 7200rpm to smoke a low power drive via SATA. But probably because the Seagate heats up so high, it cant sustain fast data transfer contiguously.
I think you would notice the advantages of high speed drives sa applications requiring intermittent and short drive access. For instance boot-up of OS, applications, gaming. Kung baga sa kotse, mabilis ang acceleration.
And there's another utility where you'd notice a 7200rpm drive to be faster - full hard drive format.
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what if sir kung gagamitin lang pang store ng files/pics/ etc?
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what if sir kung gagamitin lang pang store ng files/pics/ etc?
Are you talking internal or external?
Internal drives, Im 1000% a fan of WD Green for storage of files/pics. You dont need 7200rpm drive for that kind of use. An idle 7200rpm Seagate gets hotter than WD Green at constant seek.
External drives - If you can find models having cooling fans or add-on cooling fans, the better. Otherwise, just buy whatever is cheapest in the market and provide good ventilation in your working area.
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assuming for both sir, kung ano meron mas mura ;D
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assuming for both sir, kung ano meron mas mura ;D
Internal, my choice right now is WD Green.
External, yeah getting the cheapest is not a bad idea, basta hindi umiinit masyado. Next time we meet papakita ko sa yo yung di umiinit na External model.
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assuming for both sir, kung ano meron mas mura ;D
Hi Anya,
I have never been a fan of external drives, I never watch naman kasi .mkv files on my PC,
mostly internet and paperworks ang usage ng PC ko, in my experience, Seagate HD are very durable indeed, but like all other equipment, it will break down in the end, and it will all boil down to the warranty, I have 4 PCs here at home and had broken 3 HDs in the span of 15 years that I have been using a PC, all of which served me well, and for as long as the HD is still in the warranty period, I think 3 or 5 years yata, and you were able to keep the receipt, then there is no problem claiming it for replacement.
I have great experiences with Seagate Internal drives, and last week was my first time to use a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Green internal HD, (Thanks to Vic...) it is indeed very silent and fast. I still have no info on its reliability though.
The only advantage I see in using an external drive is its portability, you can simply bring it anywhere, kaya lang ako nagkaruon ng My Book WD is that binigay lang sa akin ng brother ko, I only use it as a backup on all my files and documents.
I did asked around sa mga kaibigan ko about the warranty claims ng WD, and hindi naman daw ito lumalayo sa Seagate, madaling kausap for as long as you have all the receipts. I guess, it will boil down to pricing, both internal and external drives are only separated by a mere 500 pesos na lang yata, mas mahal ang external ng kaunti...
Regards,
Benedict
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Madami pros and cons to. depende sa usage ng isang tao.
Isama mo pa yung SSD syempre ibang usapan na yun. ;)
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Madami pros and cons to. depende sa usage ng isang tao.
Isama mo pa yung SSD syempre ibang usapan na yun. ;)
yeah but ssd has some flaws too :(
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please forgive my ignorance, what's ssd?
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please forgive my ignorance, what's ssd?
Solid State drive bro, its really a good addition/upgrade for your pc.
learn more here Solid State Drive (http://compreviews.about.com/od/storage/a/SSD.htm)
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thanks, very informative, are there available locally? must be pricey also
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thanks, very informative, are there available locally? must be pricey also
ssds are expensive per gb ratio. but performs pretty well.
some had bad reviews though, or maybe they just dont know what theyre getting (or expecting too much, if i may add) ;D
since both have their pros and cons, youll need to understand/research how your system works (or what applications youre planning to run) and what format will give you the utmost advantage.
if you want you can get a wd raptor for an internal drive, it has the advantage of both formats, with almost no flaw ;)
they are per order basis in Questlogic Tech Computer Store (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=88143.0)
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I consider SSDs as luxuries at the moment not only because of the price, but also with the way I use hard drive space - BITIN.
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ask ko lang malaki ba difference sa speed ng data transfer between usb 2.0 and esata?
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ask ko lang malaki ba difference sa speed ng data transfer between usb 2.0 and esata?
Yes Bro. Between 1.5x to 4x ayon sa aking tests. I would normally get around 20-25Mb/sec transfer speed through USB 2.0. Kung eSATA between 30-80 Mb/sec.
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Yes Bro. Between 1.5x to 4x ayon sa aking tests. I would normally get around 20-25Mb/sec transfer speed through USB 2.0. Kung eSATA between 30-80 Mb/sec.
me disadvantages ba sir ang eSATA?
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me disadvantages ba sir ang eSATA?
Other than more expensive price for external drives or external enclosures/docks, none that I know of.
Oh. medyo matigas yung eSATA cable and not as flexible as USB. ;)
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some motherboards with esata ports are a bit expensive.
im planning to get cheaper internal 1tbs + this
(http://media.uxcell.com/uxcell/images/item/catalog/ux_a07122000ux0021_ux_c.jpg)
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/mainboards/ga-ep35-ds4/esata.jpg)
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some motherboards with esata ports are a bit expensive.
im planning to get cheaper internal 1tbs + this
(http://media.uxcell.com/uxcell/images/item/catalog/ux_a07122000ux0021_ux_c.jpg)
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/mainboards/ga-ep35-ds4/esata.jpg)
how much does this retail bro?
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Ako na ang sa-sagot: 350pesos sa TipidPC. 450 to 550 pesos sa Gilmore. ;) ;D
Mas maganda na bumili ka na lang nang Ovation HDD with Esata, may kasama na siyang adaptor.
Hindi ko type iyan dalawa, kasi, ka-kainin kaagad ang dalawa mong sata port(sayang, lahat nang optical ngayon puro SATA na ang labas) hindi nga pala autotodetect ang SSID(tama ba?) ang XP, kailangan mag reboot ka pa, tapos, pag inalis mo, hindi siya mag-is-istart nang ma-ayos, kasi palagi na siyang ha-hanapin nang XP OS.
Recomendado lang kung naka Vista ka, at kung i-pe-permanente mo nang naka-kabit an external drive mo sa likod.....pero...bat' mo ga-gawin iyun'. :P
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Ako na ang sa-sagot: 350pesos sa TipidPC. 450 to 550 pesos sa Gilmore. ;) ;D
Mas maganda na bumili ka na lang nang Ovation HDD with Esata, may kasama na siyang adaptor.
Hindi ko type iyan dalawa, kasi, ka-kainin kaagad ang dalawa mong sata port(sayang, lahat nang optical ngayon puro SATA na ang labas) hindi nga pala autotodetect ang SSID(tama ba?) ang XP, kailangan mag reboot ka pa, tapos, pag inalis mo, hindi siya mag-is-istart nang ma-ayos, kasi palagi na siyang ha-hanapin nang XP OS.
Recomendado lang kung naka Vista ka, at kung i-pe-permanente mo nang naka-kabit an external drive mo sa likod.....pero...bat' mo ga-gawin iyun'. :P
Actually puwede ang XP basta merong AHCI capability ang motherboard. Medyo kumplikado nga lang ang pag-install ng capability. Meron ako ngayong gamit na Gigabyte 780G mobo na XP na merong plug'n-play capability para sa esata.
In case you have a Gigabyte 780G mobo and want to have AHCI here's a link on how-to:
http://ivoidwarranties.blogspot.com/2008/07/amd-780g-vs-ahci.html (http://ivoidwarranties.blogspot.com/2008/07/amd-780g-vs-ahci.html)
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Ako na ang sa-sagot: 350pesos sa TipidPC. 450 to 550 pesos sa Gilmore. ;) ;D
Mas maganda na bumili ka na lang nang Ovation HDD with Esata, may kasama na siyang adaptor.
Hindi ko type iyan dalawa, kasi, ka-kainin kaagad ang dalawa mong sata port(sayang, lahat nang optical ngayon puro SATA na ang labas) hindi nga pala autotodetect ang SSID(tama ba?) ang XP, kailangan mag reboot ka pa, tapos, pag inalis mo, hindi siya mag-is-istart nang ma-ayos, kasi palagi na siyang ha-hanapin nang XP OS.
Recomendado lang kung naka Vista ka, at kung i-pe-permanente mo nang naka-kabit an external drive mo sa likod.....pero...bat' mo ga-gawin iyun'. :P
baka ung ovation din ang bilhin ko kasama na 1tb hdd tapos eSATA pa 5300pesos lang ;D
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Wow 5.3K na lang, hulin gbili ko sa TipidPC ay 5.9K ang 1TB. :'(
Maganda ang Ovation, pre-formatted na, iyun' nga lang, NTFS siya. ;)
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Wow 5.3K na lang, hulin gbili ko sa TipidPC ay 5.9K ang 1TB. :'(
Maganda ang Ovation, pre-formatted na, iyun' nga lang, NTFS siya. ;)
pababa na kasi ang prices, mas ok if ntfs pag fat32 kasi up to 4gb lang ang pde itransfer
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Totoo iyan' pero pag Fat32 pwede pati sa mga naka Mac at linux. ;)
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my comment on the ovation:
di lang masyado maganda itsura, i still prefer wd's look, pero feature wise & price mapag titisan ko na :)
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mas slim ang dating ng ovation compared sa my book :D
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actually mukhang TV tuner, pero i'm not complaining,
WD's my book kase bagay sa mga piano finish na hardware
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actually mukhang TV tuner, pero i'm not complaining,
WD's my book kase bagay sa mga piano finish na hardware
mas prone ata sa dust ang my book compared sa ovation?
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anyone using NAS? or waste of money lang?
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anyone using NAS? or waste of money lang?
Not waste of money kase ang convenient gamitin and ang dali mag-set-up (talking about Buffalo brand NAS). Ang mahal nga lang compared sa "mano-mano". :) So kung dami pera - very good! ;)
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regarding eSATA slot: ano options ko if occupied na ang mga SATA slots ko tapos gusto ko magtransfer ng files thru eSATA?
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mag kabit ka nang SATA Pci card, kung mayroon ang MoBo mo nang extra (iyun' maliit)PCIe mayroon din sata card.
available sa CDR-King 250 pesos. ;D
Ang PCIe 950 pesos. :'(
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mag kabit ka nang SATA Pci card, kung mayroon ang MoBo mo nang extra (iyun' maliit)PCIe mayroon din sata card.
available sa CDR-King 250 pesos. ;D
Ang PCIe 950 pesos. :'(
2 lang kasi ang sata slot ng pc ko eh :'(
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Ako na ang sa-sagot: 350pesos sa TipidPC. 450 to 550 pesos sa Gilmore. ;) ;D
mas mura sa gilmore bro ;) mas mura sa tpc .. :D (under 300 pesoses)
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2 lang kasi ang sata slot ng pc ko eh :'(
eto' iyun sina-sabi kong bilhin mo at ikabit:
(http://cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide03.gif)
(http://cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide01.gif)
eto' iyun' PCIE, kung mayroon ang MoBo mo, OK ito';
(http://cdrking.com/images/products/USB%20Devices/esrp00.gif)
(http://cdrking.com/images/products/USB%20Devices/esrp01.gif)
(http://cdrking.com/images/products/USB%20Devices/esrp02.gif)
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mas mura sa gilmore bro ;) mas mura sa tpc .. :D (under 300 pesoses)
Mabuti naman, iyun' kasi ang prsyo noon nag hanap ako noon Pasko ;D
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below is the pic of my cpu
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3131/dsc05143p.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05143p.jpg)
mukhang pareho ung slot ng card sa cdr king
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide02.gif)
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide01.gif)
do you think this will work? :D
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do you think this will work? :D
it should !! ;)
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it should !! ;)
salamat sir, btw me installer pa ba kelangan ?
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salamat sir, btw me installer pa ba kelangan ?
im not really sure bro, but if it needs one; im sure its included in the package :D
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im not really sure bro, but if it needs one; im sure its included in the package :D
salamat ulit! subukan ko, will post feedbacks :D
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salamat ulit! subukan ko, will post feedbacks :D
hi anya. ano result? gumana ba?
i have almost the same scenario. i have 2 external hdd esata ready. gusto ko sanang mag esata transfer ng files tru external hdd to external hdd using my pc. my problem is walang esata port sa likod. my mother board is sata na. what will i do? what will i buy? sorry for a noob question. please help pdvd. thank you.
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hi anya. ano result? gumana ba?
i have almost the same scenario. i have 2 external hdd esata ready. gusto ko sanang mag esata transfer ng files tru external hdd to external hdd using my pc. my problem is walang esata port sa likod. my mother board is sata na. what will i do? what will i buy? sorry for a noob question. please help pdvd. thank you.
ung external hdd with esata pa rin binili ko sir although thru usb lang ako nagtatransfer. :D
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i have 2 external hdd esata ready. gusto ko sanang mag esata transfer ng files tru external hdd to external hdd using my pc. my problem is walang esata port sa likod. my mother board is sata na. what will i do? what will i buy? sorry for a noob question. please help pdvd. thank you.
If you have the following you can benefit from esata:
1) Vista Home basic or premium and up (XP can recognize esata, but you'll have to reboot and from my exprience, it disrupts the registry and confuses the PC on initial startups)
2) MoBo that has incorporated esata I/O
3) If #2 is unavailabl, buy this:
(http://i31.tinypic.com/xpbg3r.jpg)
4) Working esata dock(not all works, you'll have to establish 1st that your esata in your MoBo works, or test in a friend's PC with a working esata).
Once you have fulfilled the above, the best way to do it is to transfer files intially to your PC's HDD to maximize speed, however, if you have one of those newer docks that have the esata connector but dual bays, you can always transfer files directly via drag and drop in your PC.
The dual bays used to be available at TipidPC, I believe the seller is Nerdherd, just search for him and call, he is very accommodating, however, you'll have to check his products because not all his esata works(from my experience) but he is always amenable to an exhange or a money back arrangement.
BTW, here's an image of the Dual Bay Docking:
(http://i25.tinypic.com/2rxchnp.jpg)
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I'm using windows xp and installed this esata bracket. Just like what alfie said, I need to reboot for it to recognize the device.
I'm wondering if this has to do with the operating system or my hardware(Pentium 4 Hyperthreading).
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eto' sagot ni uvax tungkol sa esata at XP OS:
Posted on: May 05, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Posted by: uvax
Actually puwede ang XP basta merong AHCI capability ang motherboard. Medyo kumplikado nga lang ang pag-install ng capability. Meron ako ngayong gamit na Gigabyte 780G mobo na XP na merong plug'n-play capability para sa esata.
In case you have a Gigabyte 780G mobo and want to have AHCI here's a link on how-to:
http://ivoidwarranties.blogspot.com/2008/07/amd-780g-vs-ahci.html
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eto' sagot ni uvax tungkol sa esata at XP OS:
Posted on: May 05, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Posted by: uvax
I don't think I have AHCI. I'm using a P4 530 Prescott socket 775LGA D915GAV. Do you think a windows 7 upgrade will solve the problem?
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I don't know, since I've only used Vista and have not tried W7.
Maybe some members who did like Firewired can answer your question, although, you might have a problem with the MoBo, I once used a MSI MoBo,and no matter what upgrades I did, esata has remained undetected. :P
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If I may ask, how reliable are those 1TB external hard drives ? At a mere 5T, they seem to provide the best cost-benefit. I prefer those smaller ones powered by USB cables. My old 180GB external drive hooked to a desktop PC proved very useful in a 4-hour power outage lately when I used a laptop with it. TIA
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If I may ask, how reliable are those 1TB external hard drives ? At a mere 5T, they seem to provide the best cost-benefit. I prefer those smaller ones powered by USB cables. My old 180GB external drive hooked to a desktop PC proved very useful in a 4-hour power outage lately when I used a laptop with it. TIA
The biggest USB powered portable HDD Ive seen has a capacity of 500GB and costs about 1.5x compared to self-powered 1TB external drive.
1TB drives both external and internal are highly reliable. Between the wife and I, we share more than 20 already, mostly WD Green, mainly for data storage - no problem whatsoever.
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The biggest USB powered portable HDD Ive seen has a capacity of 500GB and costs about 1.5x compared to self-powered 1TB external drive.
1TB drives both external and internal are highly reliable. Between the wife and I, we share more than 20 already, mostly WD Green, mainly for data storage - no problem whatsoever.
whoa! :)
i bet you take a lot of pictures .. with a kick ass 50mp dslr ;D ;D
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below is the pic of my cpu
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3131/dsc05143p.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc05143p.jpg)
mukhang pareho ung slot ng card sa cdr king
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide02.gif)
(http://www.cdrking.com/images/products/Others/pciide01.gif)
do you think this will work? :D
successfully installed this, ung esata hdd ba plug n play din katulad ng usb? or kelangan patay ung pc bago isaksak ung esata?
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successfully installed this, ung esata hdd ba plug n play din katulad ng usb? or kelangan patay ung pc bago isaksak ung esata?
I always turn off my PC when I plug in any hardware, except of course yung mga nasa USB connection lang...
I'm a bit cautious sa mga hardware, baka may mag-short maninira ng slot or worse the MOBO...
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I always turn off my PC when I plug in any hardware, except of course yung mga nasa USB connection lang...
I'm a bit cautious sa mga hardware, baka may mag-short maninira ng slot or worse the MOBO...
inoff ko muna bago ko turn on ung esata hdd. the previous connection of usb took 10-15 minutes to transfer a 4-5gb file, ung esata took less than 8 minutes ;D
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inoff ko muna bago ko turn on ung esata hdd. the previous connection of usb took 10-15 minutes to transfer a 4-5gb file, ung esata took less than 8 minutes ;D
Interesting,..
Will research about that,...
Wala pa ako esata sa system ko kasi kaya hindi ako gaanong familiar...
thanks for the info sir...
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inoff ko muna bago ko turn on ung esata hdd. the previous connection of usb took 10-15 minutes to transfer a 4-5gb file, ung esata took less than 8 minutes ;D
50% faster file transfer looks OK, but 8 minutes to transfer 5GB is still rather slow (that's only 10.41MB/sec). Were you multitasking ?
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50% faster file transfer looks OK, but 8 minutes to transfer 5GB is still rather slow (that's only 10.41MB/sec). Were you multitasking ?
not sure if affected ung transfer speed habang gumagamit ng torrents
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not sure if affected ung transfer speed habang gumagamit ng torrents
Yes affected if you are using the same HDD. Parang one-way street na nagsalubungan.
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50% faster file transfer looks OK, but 8 minutes to transfer 5GB is still rather slow (that's only 10.41MB/sec). Were you multitasking ?
What?! May ibibilis pa..?
I'd definitely ask around about this,..
Kaya pala ito ang inererekomenda ng mga kaibigan ko sa akin...
Cheers...
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What?! May ibibilis pa..?
I'd definitely ask around about this,..
USB2.0 transfers can reach between 20MB-40MB/sec
ESATA can easily achieve twice as fast as that.
The speed ratings on paper are sooooo much higher than these numbers.
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USB2.0 transfers can reach between 20MB-40MB/sec
ESATA can easily achieve twice as fast as that.
The speed ratings on paper are sooooo much higher than these numbers.
Wow..!
Thanks for the data sir,...
ABC
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question ulit alin ba ang mas mabilis ang transfer?
sata to esata?
esata to sata?
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Question:
Is there a posibility na mas mabilis madamage ang 3.5 external harddisk than 2.5 external harddisk?
Thanks
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Question:
Is there a posibility na mas mabilis madamage ang 3.5 external harddisk than 2.5 external harddisk?
Thanks
Sir, in what working condition...?
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question ulit alin ba ang mas mabilis ang transfer?
sata to esata?
esata to sata?
theoretically no difference bro. as long as the port and hdd supports it. e.g. esata drive (which uses sata2 technology) that is plugged in to a sata 2 port.
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Question:Is there a posibility na mas mabilis madamage ang 3.5 external harddisk than 2.5 external harddisk?
Thanks
there should be no difference. in my observation however, 3.5 external drives have better ventilation. :)
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question ulit alin ba ang mas mabilis ang transfer?
sata to esata?
esata to sata?
Same
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For XP OS, another safer way and less encumbering method for the esata to be recognized and incorporated into your system is to do the following:
1) Go to Device Manager
2) Click Disk Drives
3) Scan for Hardware Changes, your'e esata connection will now be visible.
For precautionary measures as to not upset your registry, to safely remove it, the same steps 1-2...but afterward, right click on the esata drive(I'm sure you'll know either WDC or ST for Seagate), then click uninstall..otherwise, on reboot, the PC might hang looking for the esata drive.
So no more reboot....enjoy fast transfer now even with XP as an OS. ;D ;D ;D
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For XP OS, another safer way and less encumbering method for the esata to be recognized and incorporated into your system is to do the following:
1) Go to Device Manager
2) Click Disk Drives
3) Scan for Hardware Changes, your'e esata connection will now be visible.
For precautionary measures as to not upset your registry, to safely remove it, the same steps 1-2...but afterward, right click on the esata drive(I'm sure you'll know either WDC or ST for Seagate), then click uninstall..otherwise, on reboot, the PC might hang looking for the esata drive.
So no more reboot....enjoy fast transfer now even with XP as an OS. ;D ;D ;D
di ba sir plug and play din pag esata?
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I tested a new Buffalo external drive with USB3.0 yesterday and it was FAST. Kaso mahal pa.
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I was just wondering if the speed of the proc of your CPU also affect the file transfer rate or is it just dependent on the speed of the drives and the connections?
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I was just wondering if the speed of the proc of your CPU also affect the file transfer rate or is it just dependent on the speed of the drives and the connections?
Between a C2D and P4s, yes it's pretty obvious - the P4s would really choke on other applications when you do contiguous file transfer. But among C2Ds, I can hardly notice any difference in file transfer speed using the same type of HDD connection.
The effects of drive rotational speed in contiguous file transfer is somewhat iffy in my observation. WD Greens seem to be as fast if not faster than a regular class 7200 RPM Seagate or Toshiba. Mukhang sa intermittent drive seek lang advantageous ang 7200 rpm (as in OS or application boot-up).
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Between a C2D and P4s, yes it's pretty obvious - the P4s would really choke on other applications when you do contiguous file transfer. But among C2Ds, I can hardly notice any difference in file transfer speed using the same type of HDD connection.
The effects of drive rotational speed in contiguous file transfer is somewhat iffy in my observation. WD Greens seem to be as fast if not faster than a regular class 7200 RPM Seagate or Toshiba. Mukhang sa intermittent drive seek lang advantageous ang 7200 rpm (as in OS or application boot-up).
Thanks for the reply. That was also my observation between my P4 and my newer AMD X2 machine. Maybe it might be a factor that the P4's internal HDD is IDE and the AMD X2 had a SATA drive. This observation though was evident in file transfers from the internal to a USB external drive.
Haven't compared file transfers from External drive A to External drive B using the the 2 mentioned machines.