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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: zedric on Jun 09, 2009 at 08:42 AM
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Something to look forward to....
http://whathifi.com/News/Wharfedale-launches-Diamond-101-budget-speakers-and-well-have-the-world-exclusive-review/
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:o wow! that's pretty exciting!
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something to look forward to indeed! thanks for sharing sir zedric.
Kelan kaya magkakaroon local distributors?
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ayan na ang SARS!!! teka uso pa ba? diba H1N1 na?
;D ;D ;D
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same prices din kaya as the 9 series? sana may mga reviews na especially the 10.1
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fogee!!! ;D
(http://www.avreview.co.uk/review/images/products/fullsize/wharf050609.jpg)
- The front baffle features a composite panel structure with piano black finish which not only makes it look swish but also improves sound quality by reducing the effects of vibration
- The mid/bass drive unit has been enhanced with a massive flange to improve stability while a diamond pattern has been moulded into the surround of the Kevlar cone to dampen standing waves and create a cleaner high-frequency roll-off
- The original twin reflex ports have been moved to the rear of the cabinet to reduce audible distortion while extending the bass to below 45Hz for an ‘impressive sense of sonic scale’
- A metal diffusion grid has also been added over the soft-dome tweeter as protection and to iron out high-frequency perturbations up to the 30kHz point for smoother treble
- Available in black, rosewood, cherry and walnut
something that i have been waiting long also, a speaker config. like the Diamond 10.5:
(http://www.tekniikanmaailma.fi/s/f/editor/Diamond%2010.5%20jpg.jpg)
there's the 6.5 woofer for the low-end... and a smaller driver for a cleaner midrange.
i should think that this would be more musical though rather than more "cinematic". :D
is it obvious i'm excited for this? i think i will hold out any avr or speaker upgrade for the moment.
going over the other models:
- diamond 10.1...... 86db singe 5", bookshelf (replaces 9.1)
- diamond 10.2...... 86db single 6.5", bookshelf (replaces 9.2)
- diamond 10.3...... 86db single 5", tower (new, d9.3 is 8")
- diamond 10.4...... 88db dual 5.25", tower (new, d9.5 is dual 6.5")
- diamond 10.5...... 86db single 6.5"+2" mid, tower (new, d9.5 is dual 6.5")
- diamond 10.6...... 88db dual 6.5", tower (replaces 9.5)
- diamond 10.7...... 90db dual 6.5"+2" mid, tower (new, d9.6 is dual 8")
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Any idea on when these babies be availlable locally? o meron na?
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feedback naman pag available na.
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fogee!!! ;D
(http://www.avreview.co.uk/review/images/products/fullsize/wharf050609.jpg)
- The front baffle features a composite panel structure with piano black finish which not only makes it look swish but also improves sound quality by reducing the effects of vibration
- The mid/bass drive unit has been enhanced with a massive flange to improve stability while a diamond pattern has been moulded into the surround of the Kevlar cone to dampen standing waves and create a cleaner high-frequency roll-off
- The original twin reflex ports have been moved to the rear of the cabinet to reduce audible distortion while extending the bass to below 45Hz for an ‘impressive sense of sonic scale’
- A metal diffusion grid has also been added over the soft-dome tweeter as protection and to iron out high-frequency perturbations up to the 30kHz point for smoother treble
- Available in black, rosewood, cherry and walnut
something that i have been waiting long also, a speaker config. like the Diamond 10.5:
(http://www.tekniikanmaailma.fi/s/f/editor/Diamond%2010.5%20jpg.jpg)
there's the 6.5 woofer for the low-end... and a smaller driver for a cleaner midrange.
i should think that this would be more musical though rather than more "cinematic". :D
is it obvious i'm excited for this? i think i will hold out any avr or speaker upgrade for the moment.
going over the other models:
- diamond 10.1...... 86db singe 5", bookshelf (replaces 9.1)
- diamond 10.2...... 86db single 6.5", bookshelf (replaces 9.2)
- diamond 10.3...... 86db single 5", tower (new, d9.3 is 8")
- diamond 10.4...... 88db dual 5.25", tower (new, d9.5 is dual 6.5")
- diamond 10.5...... 86db single 6.5"+2" mid, tower (new, d9.5 is dual 6.5")
- diamond 10.6...... 88db dual 6.5", tower (replaces 9.5)
- diamond 10.7...... 90db dual 6.5"+2" mid, tower (new, d9.6 is dual 8")
::) parang pang tapat sa MAs yan ah ;D i hope this is as affordable as the 9 series ;D if it will be available here.
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here's another pic.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/20090527090848740.jpg)
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Ampogee naman nito. Bababa kaya presyo ng series 9 dito sa atin?
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mukang madami nanaman ang mangangati dito pag nilabas yan ;D
and dadami rin siguro ang tao sa buy and sell section :D
the 10.1 looks good and back ported sya.
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Yep I cant wait for this, I plan to upgrade to this 10.1 as well. Pogi na kasi at may contrast na sa cabinet with the brushed metal flange (or ring ba yan?) of the speakers compared sa dull dark gray with the 9.1.
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Yep I cant wait for this, I plan to upgrade to this 10.1 as well. Pogi na kasi at may contrast na sa cabinet with the brushed metal flange (or ring ba yan?) of the speakers compared sa dull dark gray with the 9.1.
LOL tinamaan ka na ng SARS bro chris hehehe! poging pogi kasi noh and pag wharfe siguradong maganda tunog! almost all product lines nila walang tapon ;)
advance congrats bro ;D
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Yep mukang na sars na nga ako. At least with the 10.1 series you can remove the grille covers showing the kapogian inside. Sa 9, for me they look better with the covers on!
Sana mura lang pag labas para makabili agad :)
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the silver bezel reminds me of B&W's CM series ;D
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Ngek! kakabili ko lang ng 9.5, hehehe! :o
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Ngek! kakabili ko lang ng 9.5, hehehe! :o
thing is, baka matagalan pa bago makarating ito dito. so baka di mo na rin mahihintay. upgrade na lang tayo when these come out.
one website is even promising a first look/preview i think september pa.
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thing is, baka matagalan pa bago makarating ito dito. so baka di mo na rin mahihintay. upgrade na lang tayo when these come out.
one website is even promising a first look/preview i think september pa.
Nalungkot naman ako bigla :'(
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here's another pic.
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/20090527090848740.jpg)
Sizzling Hot!
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oooooolala! ;D
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katatapos ko lang mag-upgrade... :-X
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Ngek! kakabili ko lang ng 9.5, hehehe! :o
hehehe! pwede ka na mag buo ng second set-up!
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yehey! mumura na 9series! dadami ibebenta mga taga rito! pipila kaagad ako sa mga 4 sale na 9.5 ;D
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7 months pa lang yung 9.5 ko tapos may diamond 10 series na ... ;D
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hehehe! pwede ka na mag buo ng second set-up!
SARS!!!!! ... although late this year pa, hehehe! ;D
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sir jeff and sir vic any idea if this will be available here and when?
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SARS!!!!! ... although late this year pa, hehehe! ;D
timing for upgrades yan this christmas ;D sunog nanaman mga bonus nyo! :D
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First consumer review, discussion on the new diamonds that I've read
http://www.hifivision.com/speakers/4113-wharfedale-10-series-being-launched.html
you can also visit the website
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/home.php
from the reviews of the about site, i presume they made big improvement on the mid/bass driver to be commented of being bright, open.
well let's wait and see.... :)
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Ang tanong is the pricing. Basing on whathifi, 9.1 was 150 while 10.1 is slated to go for 200. I'm sure much cheaper pa rin dito, pero susundan kaya yung pricing dito?
I've read somewhere that these have been released in India already as early as May. When is this coming to Manila?
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Ang tanong is the pricing. Basing on whathifi, 9.1 was 150 while 10.1 is slated to go for 200. I'm sure much cheaper pa rin dito, pero susundan kaya yung pricing dito?
I've read somewhere that these have been released in India already as early as May. When is this coming to Manila?
distributor says around the "ber" months pa. But you never know, they might decide to release earlier. Not sure about pricing. :)
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Hi audio gurus, would you recommend this series for a newbie like me? It's my first time setting up my HT and was thinking of getting a Mission. However, since this is quite a recent release then why not go with it. I'll probably use it more for movies rather than music. I've been reading that Wharfedale is more for music and Mission is for movies, so having second thoughts.
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Sadly, no one has heard it here as it has not been released so wala pa makapag comment. One thing good about this brand and series is that their Price to performance ration is excellent. Value for Money.
Hi audio gurus, would you recommend this series for a newbie like me? It's my first time setting up my HT and was thinking of getting a Mission. However, since this is quite a recent release then why not go with it. I'll probably use it more for movies rather than music. I've been reading that Wharfedale is more for music and Mission is for movies, so having second thoughts.
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Thanks for the reply. If ever I go with the diamond series, which receiver/model is recommended for Wharfedale? Since my first choice was Mission, I've been planning on Onkyo. But if it's Wharfedale, should I look into Yamaha?
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walang balita?
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Hi audio gurus, would you recommend this series for a newbie like me? It's my first time setting up my HT and was thinking of getting a Mission. However, since this is quite a recent release then why not go with it. I'll probably use it more for movies rather than music. I've been reading that Wharfedale is more for music and Mission is for movies, so having second thoughts.
Good Afternoon RNIverson,
You might like to try Denon? Have been using the Denon Wharfe match and have been happy with it ;D
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Thanks! But not sure if I can afford Denon. Thinking of experimenting with Onkyo ;)
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Thanks! But not sure if I can afford Denon. Thinking of experimenting with Onkyo ;)
Denon is not necessarily more expensive than Onkyo. You can get some good deals if you look around.
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one of the earliest reviews for the 10-series: What Hi-Fi: Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 (http://whathifi.com/Review/Wharfedale-Diamond-101/) (5 out of 5 stars)
(http://www.whathifi.com/productimages/1476306cdth.jpg)
This is a mature-sounding speaker that trades the exuberance of its top rivals for quite astonishing control and precision. The 10.1 has the ability to make just about any price-comparable speaker, and most from the price class above, sound vague in the reproduction of fine detail.
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one of the earliest reviews for the 10-series: What Hi-Fi: Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 (http://whathifi.com/Review/Wharfedale-Diamond-101/) (5 out of 5 stars)
(http://www.whathifi.com/productimages/1476306cdth.jpg)
Wow looks really promising. ;)
O hope it can get here soon, so we can hear ourselves. :)
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can't wait: ::)
(http://uk.cinenow.com/e/y-l-000/006/524.jpg?1249460684)
;)
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For Hot or Not Thread ;D
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Copy/pasted this review from the What Hifi website!!
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Insight, precision and control are excellent for the price; transparent sound; fine build and finish
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Revealing, so the rest of the system needs to be good
Wharfedale's Diamond started off as a single budget model back in the '80s. It was a squat, basic-looking thing that stole many a budding audiophile's heart by being massively musical.
Much has changed since then. Diamonds are now a range, and the new 10.1 is as classy as they come at this price level. This latest version also enjoys the kind of engineering content that even proper high-end speakers of a decade ago would've been happy to boast about.
This 10th generation model doesn't totally depart from the original – it still sounds superb for the money. This isn't always a given (generations five through to seven weren't anything special), but like the excellent 9.1 before it, the 10.1 is a king-size hit.
This is a mature-sounding speaker that trades the exuberance of its top rivals for quite astonishing control and precision. The 10.1 has the ability to make just about any price-comparable speaker, and most from the price class above, sound vague in the reproduction of fine detail.
The leading edges of notes are described with confidence and don't hang about after finishing. This pays dividends when listening to something dynamically demanding like Bizet's Carmen Suite, where the 10.1s will keep hold of every instrumental strand and not let complexity loosen its grip.
Rare performance for the price
The Diamonds flow with the music, too, and can cope with dynamic shifts in a manner rarely heard at this kind of price level.
Sure, spend more cash and you get (larger) rivals that deliver scale with more ease, and dynamic extremes with more force. But you won't always get the Diamond's insight or sense of transparency.
Integration between the Kevlar mid/bass unit and soft-dome tweeter is seamless, leading to a cohesive sound. We haven't talked about bass or treble performance because these speakers are terrifically capable and balanced right across the frequency range.
Unfussy about positioning
These Wharfedales aren't too fussy about positioning. Place them on some quality stands – Soundstyle Z2s will do – a little away from a rear wall, and you'll be fine.
The speaker's bass end is controlled enough to stay fairly taut when placed close to a wall, but its presentation loses cohesion and its impressive stereo imaging suffers too.
System matching is easy. Just get the best source and electronics you can afford, otherwise you'll find the 10.1s' insightful yet honest approach to music replay a trifle too revealing. Consider budget offerings from Marantz, NAD or Cambridge as a good starting point.
The old 9.1s were firm favourites of ours, even if newer rivals from Dali and Monitor Audio had stolen their limelight. The 10.1 puts Wharfedale back in the leading pack at this price level.
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i am just waiting for these babies! come to papi! :-*
(http://sightandsounduk.com/uploads/products/extras/std/diamond10.7ch.jpg)(http://sightandsounduk.com/uploads/products/extras/std/Diamond%2010.7.jpg)
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any pricing abroad? i hope wharfe maintains its current "friendly" pricing scheme here. whathifi sez its 200uksterlingpounds.
wharfe press release>
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=CuQGPrZVq6M%3D&tabid=79
ever wonder why since diamond 8 series, its always the smallest -8.1 9.1 and now the 10.1 thats reviewed first and gets the accolade? perhaps its because the original diamond started it all.? remember diamonds 2,3,4,5,6,&7 were kinda so-so. i havent encountered any at the marketplace.
my only concern is the sensitivity - 86db/6ohms pa rin. haaay
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my only concern is the sensitivity - 86db/6ohms pa rin. haaay
My 9.1 is driven by a 15 watter SE KT88 with ease. Upto now, I have not encountered any problem whatsoever. ;D
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Ngek! kakabili ko lang ng 9.5, hehehe! :o
haha, same here bro. pero i guess kailangan na natin ibenta yung gears natin para makabili ng wharfdale 10. ;D ;D
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any pricing abroad? i hope wharfe maintains its current "friendly" pricing scheme here. whathifi sez its 200uksterlingpounds.
In Singapore, the 10.7 is around SGD1300
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holy crap! ang mahal...i have a feeling the local prices will significanly go up as well.
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holy crap! ang mahal...i have a feeling the local prices will significanly go up as well.
Di naman... ask mo muna how much the old 9 series were. Then you can make a comparison. I think it will be a little more expensive pero still cheaper than most places in the world.
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Di naman... ask mo muna how much the old 9 series were. Then you can make a comparison. I think it will be a little more expensive pero still cheaper than most places in the world.
from my previous browsing when i was searching for my ht speakers, i think the d9.6 debuted and has stayed almost at between the P16-18k mark.
here's the wharfe diamond pricelist from last 2008:
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/Wharfe.jpg)
yehey! mumura na 9series! dadami ibebenta mga taga rito! pipila kaagad ako sa mga 4 sale na 9.5 ;D
i guess i'll have to pass on the d10-series at the moment. maybe i'll wait awhile to see (or hear) if it offers some significant changes compared to its predecessor. i managed to finally change the HF cap (4.7uf) of my d9.5 x'over and i really like its presentation now. the cap had been previously broken in by connecting it to a 110V x'former output for several days.
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Wala pa rin ung Diamond 10's sa Pinas? ???
Does anyone know kung kelan to dadating?
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Hmm baka ito nalang kukunin ko. ;D kailan kaya ang dating. :)
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wharfedale 10 will be available at my shop this weekend. we'll be having the 10.5, 10.1, 10cm and 10cs first. :)
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wharfedale 10 will be available at my shop this weekend. we'll be having the 10.5, 10.1, 10cm and 10cs first. :)
Very exciting news. Any word how the pricing would be compared to the 9 series? Would it stay the same, slightly higher but still cheaper than world pricing, or really higher?
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wow! parating na pala wharfe 10! I agree, any pricing news as compared to diamond 9s?
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pricing is slightly higher. to give you an idea, the diamond 10.5 srp is 17k. :)
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wharfedale 10 will be available at my shop this weekend. we'll be having the 10.5, 10.1, 10cm and 10cs first. :)
wow, ang bilis ah. nandito na kaagad.
pricing is slightly higher. to give you an idea, the diamond 10.5 srp is 17k. :)
medyo me kamahalan pa nga, considering the 9.5 to be 12k right now.
to refresh, here's the 10.5:
(http://www.tekniikanmaailma.fi/s/f/editor/Diamond%2010.5%20jpg.jpg)
Diamond 10.5...... 86db single 6.5"+2" mid, tower (new, d9.5 is dual 6.5")
sir mark, pa-invite naman pag me setup na for audition. for sure marami interested.
better if it could be a group audition, preferably after substantial break-in already. ;)
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SRP naman 17k. 12k i think should be discounted price na. Difference in discounted price should be somewhere near 2-3k for the 9.5 vs. 10.5. Diffence for the bookshelves could be smaller.
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wharfedale 10 will be available at my shop this weekend. we'll be having the 10.5, 10.1, 10cm and 10cs first. :)
alright. :) ;D
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wow, the 10.5 is nearing the polk tsi300's territory. audition nalang ang katapat nito. :D
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The 10.1 in parksquare 1 is priced at 7k.
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The 10.1 in parksquare 1 is priced at 7k.
how about the diamond 9.1? will the price go down or will they phase it out? is the price difference "justified"? sulit ba bumili ng series 10? ::)
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ang ganda ng porma ng diamond 10 series. the front has a glossy black finish. :) come check it out at my shop. :)
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Good Afternoon RNIverson,
You might like to try Denon? Have been using the Denon Wharfe match and have been happy with it ;D
I agree! ;D I too use Denon to power up my Wharfes Diamond 8 Series ;D
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Thanks! But not sure if I can afford Denon. Thinking of experimenting with Onkyo ;)
Sir, Denon and Onkyo fall under same price range. I bought my Denon last December and when I was canvassing for a new receiver, the prices for both the Denon and the Onkyo were relatively close. :)
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Saw this at Spectra at Park Square today. Ganda. The black front panel is actually in piano finish. The 7k price is either SRP or not fully discounted yet since the 9.1 is 6.1k rin daw. So subject to discount pa for cash.
Anybody able to go to Avshop and audition these speakers?
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Saw this at Spectra at Park Square today. Ganda. The black front panel is actually in piano finish. The 7k price is either SRP or not fully discounted yet since the 9.1 is 6.1k rin daw. So subject to discount pa for cash.
Anybody able to go to Avshop and audition these speakers?
I was there kanina! O 'we"were there. :D i was with Nelson and 2 other guys, I believe si Titopepe yung isa and the other one was Protege.
Yes, it is very handsome. with its piano finish. 8) We heard the 10.5, though am not in the position to compare it with the 9.5, hindi ko pa kasi naririnig si 9.5.
But I can say it sounded better with the HK than the Denon.
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Aaaah nauna ka na nagpost! ;D ;D ;D
Auditioned (rather, I should say I started the break-in) of the 10.5's yesterday. Brought my own gear to test it with,* and almopst fresh out of the box, the improvements over the previous models was immediately noticeable. I had an 8.4 and before I bought the Pi10 auditioned a a 9.5, and both previous floorstanders in stock form always had time alignment issues, where notes at certain frequencies were dragged up or down by the driver playing them. Now the 3-way used a specialized driver for each freq range (from a midwoofer used for midrange to a dome midrange), and the second thing I noticed was that the t/a issues were almost non-existent, despite sitting 3.5ft from the speakers. Despite the LCD TV between them, the 10.5's also had considerable depth, and cymbals weren't dragged to the edges of the soundstage.
Tonal quality was a bit dark overall, but vocals and strings playing at those mid-hi freqs didn't sound nasal, something I noted when I tried the 9.3 in 2007. Comparing these 17k speakers to the 70k B&W 683, I of course liked the forward but not in-your-face presentation of the 683, BUT the mid-bass had one thing to gripe about. Maybe it's the dual bass drivers, but almost all drums sounded like the bass drum on the B&W. On the 10.5, everything that was hit by the sticks had a fair amount of tonal distinction between them, even on drum rolls. Just don't expect the same grab-your-attention style of Focals and Dyns, but definitely more natural than the 683.
For movies, we used Denon 1910 and HK 255. I liked the latter better: the big fight scene at the college campus in Hulk (BluRay) had moresparkling details, more explosion impact, and a more audible and up-front soundtrack (some may not like that last part though). On music, despite my usual preference for HK AVR's because of i like hwo they perform on audio/concert dvds, the Denon sounded better. The dark sound of the Diamond 10 was darker and nearly flat dynamically on the 255, with some bass notes bloated and lacking detail.
For the tweakers, I'm not sure how easy it will be to yank the crossover out, as the terminal panel at the back is even smaller than in the Diamond 9. I do expect good caps to be a good way to spend whatever you save on these babies.
And BTW...did I mention that they just looked stunning in person? If I didn't know the B&W's there were B&W's, and had they been of comparable size, I'd easily mistake the 10.5 to be the more expensive set, though I admit it won't be an easy choice as I like the matte gray front panels on the 600s too. I tell you now, the photos do not do them justice. I mean, for budget speakers I thought those Insignia with coax drivers were pretty, but the Diamond 10 trumps that. Instead of just piano black all over there's nice vinyl at the sides, plus the aluminum trim on the drivers is just...well...wow.
Can't wait to hear them once they're broken in :o
*Transport: avshop's PS3
DAC: Lite DAC-AH, with Coem Audio mods by Ferds
Amp: NAD304 modded with IEC male socket, using Mr.H's power cable
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its the dome midrange that arouses my curiosity in this range. much like the early AR models
pic from the net>
(http://www.zenn.com.sg/Marketplace%20images/Speakers/Arkiv/AR3A_mid.JPG)
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I managed to get a chance to try the 10.5 in avshop's place. It was great for me. :)
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i'm not an audio expert by any means and i'm just giving my review based on my 1 day experience with the diamond 10.1 and 10.cm which i tried out at home last night. please note that the set-up in inside my bedroom and not accoustically optimal. also, the 10.1s were placed in a wall mount. i've had the 9 series for almost a year now.
at first, i was quite happy because the highs were really more revealing than the 9 series. that was really my issue with the 9.1 even after having the tweeter caps upgraded. i could finally hear the ringing of the church bell in the "Viva La Vida" BBC concert of Coldplay. after that, i tried some audiophile voices cd and again i would say the improvement in the highs was pretty evident.
however, when i tried my bossa nova and percussion cds, i noticed that the mids and lows were no longer distinct compared to my 9.1s. the mids of the 9.1 was definitely firmer and bass much tighter. i'm not sure if this will get better after the break-in. it'll probably get better with more distance from the wall but not that significant i guess.
now i'm confused ??? on which series to retain. i wish i could place the remove the woofer of the 9.1 and put it in the 10.1. ;D
the looks of the 10s was definitely better than its predecessor though but sound quality of course is the priority.
need your advice, guys....
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i'm not an audio expert by any means and i'm just giving my review based on my 1 day experience with the diamond 10.1 and 10.cm which i tried out at home last night. please note that the set-up in inside my bedroom and not accoustically optimal. also, the 10.1s were placed in a wall mount. i've had the 9 series for almost a year now.
at first, i was quite happy because the highs were really more revealing than the 9 series. that was really my issue with the 9.1 even after having the tweeter caps upgraded. i could finally hear the ringing of the church bell in the "Viva La Vida" BBC concert of Coldplay. after that, i tried some audiophile voices cd and again i would say the improvement in the highs was pretty evident.
however, when i tried my bossa nova and percussion cds, i noticed that the mids and lows were no longer distinct compared to my 9.1s. the mids of the 9.1 was definitely firmer and bass much tighter. i'm not sure if this will get better after the break-in. it'll probably get better with more distance from the wall but not that significant i guess.
now i'm confused ??? on which series to retain. i wish i could place the remove the woofer of the 9.1 and put it in the 10.1. ;D
the looks of the 10s was definitely better than its predecessor though but sound quality of course is the priority.
need your advice, guys....
wait a little longer, break.in muna 10.1
if i were you, dagdagan ko na lang ng tweeter ang 9.1. kung may ribbon tweeters da best! thats what i did to my infinity primus 160
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i'm not an audio expert by any means and i'm just giving my review based on my 1 day experience with the diamond 10.1 and 10.cm which i tried out at home last night. please note that the set-up in inside my bedroom and not accoustically optimal. also, the 10.1s were placed in a wall mount. i've had the 9 series for almost a year now.
at first, i was quite happy because the highs were really more revealing than the 9 series. that was really my issue with the 9.1 even after having the tweeter caps upgraded. i could finally hear the ringing of the church bell in the "Viva La Vida" BBC concert of Coldplay. after that, i tried some audiophile voices cd and again i would say the improvement in the highs was pretty evident.
however, when i tried my bossa nova and percussion cds, i noticed that the mids and lows were no longer distinct compared to my 9.1s. the mids of the 9.1 was definitely firmer and bass much tighter. i'm not sure if this will get better after the break-in. it'll probably get better with more distance from the wall but not that significant i guess.
now i'm confused ??? on which series to retain. i wish i could place the remove the woofer of the 9.1 and put it in the 10.1. ;D
the looks of the 10s was definitely better than its predecessor though but sound quality of course is the priority.
need your advice, guys....
Hmm...based sa review nyo sir, i'd probably go for the 10.2 instead of the 10.1 for that extra bass definition and extension. hunch ko lang mas okey yung 10.2 :)
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so magkano ang discounted prices?
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i'm not an audio expert by any means and i'm just giving my review based on my 1 day experience with the diamond 10.1 and 10.cm which i tried out at home last night. please note that the set-up in inside my bedroom and not accoustically optimal. also, the 10.1s were placed in a wall mount. i've had the 9 series for almost a year now.
at first, i was quite happy because the highs were really more revealing than the 9 series. that was really my issue with the 9.1 even after having the tweeter caps upgraded. i could finally hear the ringing of the church bell in the "Viva La Vida" BBC concert of Coldplay. after that, i tried some audiophile voices cd and again i would say the improvement in the highs was pretty evident.
however, when i tried my bossa nova and percussion cds, i noticed that the mids and lows were no longer distinct compared to my 9.1s. the mids of the 9.1 was definitely firmer and bass much tighter. i'm not sure if this will get better after the break-in. it'll probably get better with more distance from the wall but not that significant i guess.
now i'm confused ??? on which series to retain. i wish i could place the remove the woofer of the 9.1 and put it in the 10.1. ;D
the looks of the 10s was definitely better than its predecessor though but sound quality of course is the priority.
need your advice, guys....
some of the bass is affected because its wall mounted. the ports of the 10.1 are in the back unlike the 9.1 which are in the front. better to put it on a speaker stand so it won't be so close to the wall. but it should get better after the break in. :)
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Better to try to place it away from the wall. As Avshop said, having rear ports, they should be a little farther from the wall.
If you have to wall-mount it, others are saying that its a good idea to put foam in the ports.
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I won't wall-mount any speakers if it's for HiFi use, aside from the port it's not as ideal for controlling vibrations. You have just enough there to keep it from falling. I won't even for mains and centers, unless the HT and audio set-ups are in the same tiny room. Try regular sand-filled stands and play around with the placement and aiming. If you have to save cash and get Perfect View, check if the bottom plates are perfectly flat. I've had two pairs before and each set had one uneven bottom plate, ended up using hte even ones for the audio set-up and the uneven ones for the PC's satellite speakers.
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thanks guys for your comments. :)
actually, if i had enough space i would have gone for the floor standing speakers. unfortunately, i don't so i'm stuck wall mounting my speakers. also, the placement is safer from my curious two little boys. at least the 10.1 tweeter have grilles already
re break-in, though i recall my 9.1 did improve over time, i'm not too confident the bass will catch up to my liking. the mids should open up eventully just like the 9s.
i only have until tomorrow to decide whether to keep the 10.1 or return it to the store. i bought already the 10.cm which should be great for movies after the break-in.
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the rear ported 10s might pose some placement problem esp to those with limited space. rearported speakers need abit of space from the wall (usually 1meter or more)
i hope distros have free foam bungs to plug the ports. (i used socks when i still didnt have foams ;D )
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had a short audition of the 10.1 the other day at spectra, compared it with the 9.1 and the anniversary edition
i actually passed by avshop, cause its closer to my place kaso close sila :-[ kaya diretso sa makati
had the same impression as with natosan
if your familiar with spectra, i guess everybody does :), the audition area doesn't have walls behind it and pretty small and a bit cramped with other speaker. the bass of the 9.1 is really tighter. the annv ed also is somewhat different on the mids and highs, parang little more pronounce, thou not much, really don't know how to term it.
i guess i should have also compared it with br2, but due to time constraints, i wasn't able to....
puro black palang daw, would love to see the walnut ;D ;D ;D
hope other would post more feedbacks :)
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any updated feedback/review sa mga new owners ng wharfe 10s?
for movies is the dialogue clear even at low levels...?
need help w/c way should i go for the fronts all things considered...:
wharfe 10.5 and 10 cm with denon 1910
or the more expensive
b&w 685 and b&w htm 62 with denon 1910
i've auditioned the b&w fronts na with onkyo 607 and they sounded great..
for those who have heard both na how will the floorstanding 10.5s and 10cm
measure up againsnt the b&w bookshelf 685s and htm 62 combo?
thanks
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@sultan72,
We were using an Infinity center as they didn't have the matched Wharfe center yet. But given the characteristics of the mains, out of the box at least, they might be a little warm, but not necessarily sacrificing the definition. I'll post here if I get to audition the centers :)
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@sultan72,
We were using an Infinity center as they didn't have the matched Wharfe center yet. But given the characteristics of the mains, out of the box at least, they might be a little warm, but not necessarily sacrificing the definition. I'll post here if I get to audition the centers :)
thank you sir ProtegeManiac
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sultan72, the 10cm in my humble opinion is pretty good. well, at least relative to my 9cs.
i retested today comparing my 9.1 and 10.1 and i would definitely say overall 10.1 is the clear winner. placement really is the key. i tried placing it on the front side my av rack and the lows did improve.
now, since i have the 10cm already, i'm contemplating on trying out the 10.2 instead since they have the same woofer size as the 10cm. sorry for this newbie question, a bigger woofer will improve the bass but slightly degrade the mids, right? i tried setting at 5 channel stereo and the 10cm performed pretty well and it was as close to the wall as the 10.1.
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no walnut yet?
syet...
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/dyc_1978/IMG_9962.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/dyc_1978/IMG_9962.jpg)
enjoy your new wharfs sir. :)
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ang bilis ng mga tao dito. di pa man lang nag-iinit ang diamond 10's dito sa pinas mukhang madami na nakakuha! :o
SARS........... A-T-T-A-C-K!!!! ;D
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sir natosan
thank you very much for the feedback
i also have for our bedroom the 9.1 with 9cs, but i find the dialogue ng 9cs a little to soft or inaudible that i had to crank the volume up to 70% or enable subtitles to understand what the characters were saying...or maybe its just the amp i used before a yammy 450 series ata ...
what receiver do you use with your 10cm?
as for your question i am also a newbie... :) i'm sure someone here can help us out...
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enjoy your new wharfs sir. :)
thanks for the great deal. :D
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anlaki nung 10cm!! :D
btw, for pure movie setup, do you prefer 10.6 over the 10.5? 2k difference....
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anlaki nung 10cm!! :D
btw, for pure movie setup, do you prefer 10.6 over the 10.5? 2k difference....
is it the same size as the 9CM?
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anlaki nung 10cm!! :D
btw, for pure movie setup, do you prefer 10.6 over the 10.5? 2k difference....
i'd go for the 10.5 due to the dedicated mid-range driver. :)
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is it the same size as the 9CM?
? please enlighten us :)
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? please enlighten us :)
pinag iisipan ko kasi mag palit ng center and surround ::)
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Never ending upgrade Brother John Ah ;D ;D ;D
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Never ending upgrade Brother John Ah ;D ;D ;D
;D isip isip lang muna brader chan ;D
enticing din kasi for the price.
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is it the same size as the 9CM?
pretty much the same size i think. :)
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checked both manuals and they're exactly the same size
suppose to audition the 10.2 today but with the floods, i will have to wait again tomorrow....
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checked both manuals and they're exactly the same size
suppose to audition the 10.2 today but with the floods, i will have to wait again tomorrow....
i wouldn't recommend the 10.2 unless you really want more bass. the larger driver tends to drown out the mids and highs. but that's just my opinion. :)
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avshop, actually i'm expecting exactly that but there's no harm in trying/hearing them out ;D
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avshop, actually i'm expecting exactly that but there's no harm in trying/hearing them out ;D
ok. :) that's why i didn't stock the 10.2k. but i can order it if people want it. let me now what you think of it. :)
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pretty much the same size i think. :)
laki nga ;D
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got to test the 10.2 yesterday and let me say, the search is over! ;D
before i proceed, just would like to remind you that this is a very subjective review.
right out of the box, you can feel the fullness of the bass coming of course from the bigger woofer. hindi sya ngo2x kahit naka wall mount. trade offs are just like avshop mentioned, a drop off on the mids and highs. however, the i think the highs and lows are more balanced compared to the 10.1. take note the 10.1 may have improved after the break in but i didn't want to take the risk. 10.1's high were definitely a big improvement vs 9.1.
fyi, i'm using a harman kardon avr254 which amply supplied power to the speakers. i noticed though that i need crank the volume a bit higher for the 10.1.
obviously, the 10.2 matched well with my 10cm compared and i wouldn't recommend anymore the 10.1 and 10cm match.
i expect after the break in for the mids to be more revealing based on my experience with 9.1 so the best is yet to come. closest comparison i would say is the 9.5 with better highs. medyo malaki nga lang for wall mounted speakers. i don't know whether it's because of the configuration of my room but mas bagay ang tunog talag ng 10.2 sa akin. i can only imagine how good the 10.5 will be kasi may dedicated speaker for the mids.
that's it, pancit. :) but don't take my word for it. audition for yourself to believe.
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what are the colors available?
meron na walnut?
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hi sirs, pwede ko ba i-match yung 10CM sa 9.5? thanks =)
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hi sirs, pwede ko ba i-match yung 10CM sa 9.5? thanks =)
normally and theoretically, people will almost always recommend getting the same series speakers, specially for the two fronts and the center. so that they will be timbre matched. so its either you get three new speakers for your fronts and center or just find a new old stock or pre-owned 9cm for your center needs. :)
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normally and theoretically, people will almost always recommend getting the same series speakers, specially for the two fronts and the center. so that they will be timbre matched. so its either you get three new speakers for your fronts and center or just find a new old stock or pre-owned 9cm for your center needs. :)
thank you sir iiinas :) I will get 9CM na lang.
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thank you sir natosan for the 1st hand review.
very helpful i will be purchasing my new fronts and center this coming month..
i was just wondering kung sulit ba to get the b&w 685 and b&w htm 62 versus the much much
cheaper diamond 10.5 and 10cm...?
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Finished my setup of Wharfs diamond 10. Watched transformers. All I can say is that I like the Wharfedale's diamond 10 series. Ganda. :D
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dyc, what particular speakers are you using?
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thank you sir natosan for the 1st hand review.
very helpful i will be purchasing my new fronts and center this coming month..
i was just wondering kung sulit ba to get the b&w 685 and b&w htm 62 versus the much much
cheaper diamond 10.5 and 10cm...?
my personal philosophy is if you can afford it, buy it! ;D
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dyc, what particular speakers are you using?
im using a 10.5, 10cm, and 10.1. and a Velodine impact 12 sub using an HK355 amplifier. :)
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im using a 10.5, 10cm, and 10.1. and a Velodine impact 12 sub. :)
nice set sir! pwedeng pwede na mag post sa gallery! ;)
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im using a 10.5, 10cm, and 10.1. and a Velodine impact 12 sub using an HK355 amplifier. :)
ganda sir. also using velodyne sub but cht-10r model. bago lang yan model mo i think. set ko parang corolla, sa yo camry!
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im using a 10.5, 10cm, and 10.1. and a Velodine impact 12 sub using an HK355 amplifier. :)
a really nice value setup i would say... and in "value" i don't mean cheap. just a well matched setup that wouldn't break the bank.
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parang madami ata nagrereport ng torn drivers ng Wharfes. Inayos na kaya ng manufacturer ito in terms of rigidity? kase if they use the same woven kevlar, baka di tumagal ng 5 years yan? Or baka abused lang kaya napupunit? - just thinking
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If it's out of the warranty period they won't, and can't. But I suppose it's due to abuse. The price of Wharfedale made them very accessible, hence too many people have them, many might not know how to use them properly...etc, etc...statistically speaking.
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If it's out of the warranty period they won't, and can't. But I suppose it's due to abuse. The price of Wharfedale made them very accessible, hence too many people have them, many might not know how to use them properly...etc, etc...statistically speaking.
That's what i thought as well. sa dami nang nabenta mas merong magrereport ng sira. anyway, i would expect these cases to occur with drivers made of paper materials and not kevlar, w/c is well-known for their tensile strength.
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the thing with this problem (though personally i never heard as much) is the availability of spare parts. if you can just source a replacement driver from the dealers or direct from the distributor, then it wouldn't be as bad. sa ngayon kasi, parang you will need to buy another pair if something happens to any of your drivers.
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I guess it's more about using the proper crossover point. Without a properly-set high pass filter, smaller speakers (including smaller towers) generally won't last very long playing loud due to excessive excursion... especially if the material being played has lots of low frequencies (like movies, rap/rnb music, etc.).
It doesn't take much power to drive speakers beyond their design limits, especially below the enclosure's tuning frequency.
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That's what i thought as well. sa dami nang nabenta mas merong magrereport ng sira. anyway, i would expect these cases to occur with drivers made of paper materials and not kevlar, w/c is well-known for their tensile strength.
Remember, what ever te cone's made of, it's still glued or stiched (or both) to the spider and surrounds. I don't think the cone will just rupture on its own, damage must have been where it separated from either part first then kinetic energy tore up the cone once its connection to either part is severed. Especially in the case of the surround, as forces equidistant to the center of the cone suddenly get thrown out severely far from equilibrium.
It doesn't take much power to drive speakers beyond their design limits, especially below the enclosure's tuning frequency.
Or the other way around...it's not getting the right amount of stable power and quick reacting current from the amp driving it too loud.
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Remember, what ever te cone's made of, it's still glued or stiched (or both) to the spider and surrounds. I don't think the cone will just rupture on its own, damage must have been where it separated from either part first then kinetic energy tore up the cone once its connection to either part is severed. Especially in the case of the surround, as forces equidistant to the center of the cone suddenly get thrown out severely far from equilibrium.
Agreed with this.
In addition, even without abusing the speakers with power, environmental conditions can destroy the surrounds and its glue. Foam surrounds degrade fast in humid conditions (bodega, etc.), while rubber surrounds get brittle over time. For the glue, a warm environment can melt the glue.
For the same reasons, this is the main difference between home, car, and marine speaker drivers. Car speaker drivers are built to withstand hostile conditions (humidity and heat); while marine drivers are built even more rigidly.
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For the same reasons, this is the main difference between home, car, and marine speaker drivers. Car speaker drivers are built to withstand hostile conditions (humidity and heat); while marine drivers are built even more rigidly.
Yeah, entry level home audio speakers cost more than their car audio counterparts in the same brand only because of the cabinet's construction and shipping cost.
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Remember, what ever te cone's made of, it's still glued or stiched (or both) to the spider and surrounds.
I agree. It's probably the rubber surrounds that some members are referring to. Tried to backtrack and found a couple of reports. I sure hope the members don't mind i quoted their posts.
Do you refer wharfedale speakers?
Napunit na kasi ang woofer ko yun pa din bang naka post ang number mo
where is your shop or do you offer home service
yung kevlar ng diamond 9.1 ko nagkaron ng punit. san kaya ako makakabili ng replacement na kevlar?
Very isolated cases lang tlaga. It can happen to any speaker drivers.
Thanks for all the inputs, guys. Back to the forum topic! :)
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Did the owners of the torn woofers mentioned in their post what led to the problem? I bet it's more of physical abuse or accident rather than acoustic abuse. Most acoustic abuse like music clipping or bass overload attacks the voice coil first before any other part of a speaker. And to say, that newer woofer materials like kevlar, rubber, etc. are more rugged than ever.
just my thoughts ...
By the way, anybody can share which is better for pure audio music with audiophile materials, the 10.1 or 10.2?
I had the 9.1 and 9.2 before, and IMHO the 9.1 is far better for pure audio music, specially for vocals and retrieving details. Tnx
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By the way, anybody can share which is better for pure audio music with audiophile materials, the 10.1 or 10.2?
I had the 9.1 and 9.2 before, and IMHO the 9.1 is far better for pure audio music, specially for vocals and retrieving details. Tnx
Id recommend you consider the 10.5 too. The way it sounded when I heard it far from break-in was it'll do away with the compromises between the 9.1 and 9.2, ie, it has more bass than both but without the treble compromise of the 9.2 vs the 9.1.
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Did the owners of the torn woofers mentioned in their post what led to the problem? I bet it's more of physical abuse or accident rather than acoustic abuse. Most acoustic abuse like music clipping or bass overload attacks the voice coil first before any other part of a speaker. And to say, that newer woofer materials like kevlar, rubber, etc. are more rugged than ever.
just my thoughts ...
By the way, anybody can share which is better for pure audio music with audiophile materials, the 10.1 or 10.2?
I had the 9.1 and 9.2 before, and IMHO the 9.1 is far better for pure audio music, specially for vocals and retrieving details. Tnx
One of 'em inquired with speaker doctor and he recommended a rubber surround replacement. no mention of how the drivers got damaged.
If I were you, I'd try other brands since you've already experienced Wharfe sounds. audition other speakers with different driver materials para maiba naman. :)
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Thanks guys for the inputs! I'm sure the 10.5 is better but budget and space constraints sadly is a reality. :-\
@Pig_Freak, sir that's a good option you mentioned but the prices of bnew wharf satin is very attractive na parang second hand lang ng ibang brands, it's so inviting! ;D If meron sana magbitaw ng MA or Epos na slight used for the price of a 10.1, I would grab it! ::)
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Thanks guys for the inputs! I'm sure the 10.5 is better but budget and space constraints sadly is a reality. :-\
@Pig_Freak, sir that's a good option you mentioned but the prices of bnew wharf satin is very attractive na parang second hand lang ng ibang brands, it's so inviting! ;D If meron sana magbitaw ng MA or Epos na slight used for the price of a 10.1, I would grab it! ::)
sir allan,
pwede na 10.5 sa listening area mo sir allan. nice dome mids ala-vintage AR ;D
timing and luck lang naman sa marketplace, real good buys come up now and then.
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Thanks guys for the inputs! I'm sure the 10.5 is better but budget and space constraints sadly is a reality. :-\
@Pig_Freak, sir that's a good option you mentioned but the prices of bnew wharf satin is very attractive na parang second hand lang ng ibang brands, it's so inviting! ;D If meron sana magbitaw ng MA or Epos na slight used for the price of a 10.1, I would grab it! ::)
the new diamond 10 series is really a step up from the diamond 9 series. the 10.1 is very very good. :) come by the shop to check it out. :)
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any idea kung kelan magiging available ung other finishes other than black? thanks
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any idea kung kelan magiging available ung other finishes other than black? thanks
no word yet from the distributor. :)
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sir allan,
pwede na 10.5 sa listening area mo sir allan. nice dome mids ala-vintage AR ;D
timing and luck lang naman sa marketplace, real good buys come up now and then.
Sir rene, kayo ba yan? Yup, like vintage AR and Advent's. Naalala ko tuloy yung AR11 ko! ;D Wait and see muna , medyo nag lie low kasi ako sa audio. :D
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Sir rene, kayo ba yan? Yup, like vintage AR and Advent's. Naalala ko tuloy yung AR11 ko! ;D Wait and see muna , medyo nag lie low kasi ako sa audio. :D
yup ;D
for me, yung dome mids talaga attraction ng series 10
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are these different from what's been posted in this thread?
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zH0SpNkktbU%3D&tabid=57
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are these different from what's been posted in this thread?
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=zH0SpNkktbU%3D&tabid=57
yup. But our prices are definitely a lot cheaper. Come by the shop and check them out. :)
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which of the 10 series are better for all kinds of music?
thanks.
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which of the 10 series are better for all kinds of music?
thanks.
i like the 10.5. :)
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? please enlighten us :)
223mm H x 515mm W x 265mm D
its really big
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aba, at me review na pala ang diamond 10.5.
Wharfedale Diamond 10.5 review@techradar (http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-and-av-speakers/wharfedale-diamond-10-5-636765/review)
Over and beyond these tonal balance factors, and in fact much more important in the overall scheme of things, the voice band in particular is notably well projected and reveals a very good coherence. That in turn leads to believable and informative music making, albeit within certain limitations.
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223mm H x 515mm W x 265mm D
its really big
vs. for the 9cm
515x223x265(height on spike & plinth 233)
the same?
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In case you guys haven't checked out... the new look for the Wharfedale home page. Starring the Diamond 10 ;D
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/
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aba, at me review na pala ang diamond 10.5.
Wharfedale Diamond 10.5 review@techradar (http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-and-av-speakers/wharfedale-diamond-10-5-636765/review)
10.5 - The overall tonal balance here is progressively down-tilted from the bass to the treble, so that the overall character might well be a little too warm, rich, and laid back for some tastes and systems.
napansin ko lang po. naim nap500 ang power amp na ginamit 100wpc at naim may rep. na fast forward detailed yet warm sounding pa rin ang 10.5. matindi kaya ang influence nung "heavily furnished" (carpets and curtains?) na listening area 4.4x2.6x5.5m (WxHxD) ?
take note: 86db 6ohms 10.5 ingat sa pag-partner ng amplification baka mabitin kayo o hindi mapiga ang potential ng speakers
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as usual, 10.1 bulilits humakot accolades/ awards
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/News/tabid/57/PID/163/Default.aspx
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vs. for the 9cm
515x223x265(height on spike & plinth 233)
the same?
mukang same nga ;D
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/100_0895.jpg)
these babies are huge but fits well with sabre racks. just add the rubber stopper and no more vibrations!
good upgrade din for me as it fits well on the rack!
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10.5 - The overall tonal balance here is progressively down-tilted from the bass to the treble, so that the overall character might well be a little too warm, rich, and laid back for some tastes and systems.
napansin ko lang po. naim nap500 ang power amp na ginamit 100wpc at naim may rep. na fast forward detailed yet warm sounding pa rin ang 10.5. matindi kaya ang influence nung "heavily furnished" (carpets and curtains?) na listening area 4.4x2.6x5.5m (WxHxD) ?
take note: 86db 6ohms 10.5 ingat sa pag-partner ng amplification baka mabitin kayo o hindi mapiga ang potential ng speakers
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as usual, 10.1 bulilits humakot accolades/ awards
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/News/tabid/57/PID/163/Default.aspx
I used a NAD304 with upgraded powercord and Pre- to poweramp jumpers, was very warm but the vocals were forward enough; female vocals a bit too much on the lush and rich side, the few male vocals we had at the time didn't sound too rich to be nasal or too unnatural (normally you'd expect they generally would be given the female vocals). The warmth of the overall sound made it seem kinda veiled, but if you don't sit too far back, the detail and extensions on the highs are there despite the warm overall tone. Thing with the 10.5 is thanks to the use of a bigger midrange it beats the 9.6 on staging imaging issues. You get sufficient midrange through the dedicated driver without the need to sit too far back. The 9.5 beats the 9.6 on that regard but tended to have vocals that were too shy despite not being warm. Meaning from the few times I heard it the volume is a bit too even and the vocalist seems to be sitting with her/his back resting on the drums. Vocals in non-audiophile standard recordings get lost in the mix.
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mukang same nga ;D
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/100_0895.jpg)
these babies are huge but fits well with sabre racks. just add the rubber stopper and no more vibrations!
good upgrade din for me as it fits well on the rack!
::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Upgrade nanaman brother John? ;D
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hirap mag decide ang dami kasi magagandang speakers ngyun and baka kasi dami bago and sale ng december :D need to wait for WAF!
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i like the 10.5. :)
At the price, I love the 10.5 :D Everyone order yours from avshop, Im still torn between that and my Pi10's hahaha
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I used a NAD304 with upgraded powercord and Pre- to poweramp jumpers, was very warm but the vocals were forward enough; female vocals a bit too much on the lush and rich side, the few male vocals we had at the time didn't sound too rich to be nasal or too unnatural (normally you'd expect they generally would be given the female vocals). The warmth of the overall sound made it seem kinda veiled, but if you don't sit too far back, the detail and extensions on the highs are there despite the warm overall tone. Thing with the 10.5 is thanks to the use of a bigger midrange it beats the 9.6 on staging imaging issues. You get sufficient midrange through the dedicated driver without the need to sit too far back. The 9.5 beats the 9.6 on that regard but tended to have vocals that were too shy despite not being warm. Meaning from the few times I heard it the volume is a bit too even and the vocalist seems to be sitting with her/his back resting on the drums. Vocals in non-audiophile standard recordings get lost in the mix.
the review struck me because it used naim amp/pre. naims' got a reputation of being the hi-end counterpart of rotel - fast detailed and have good driving capability. yet the reviewer described the 10.5 to be a "little too warm, rich and laid back..." nads' are known to be on the warm-side.
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At the price, I love the 10.5 :D Everyone order yours from avshop, Im still torn between that and my Pi10's hahaha
same here bro! im still love my pi's too hard to let go ;)
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mukang same nga ;D
(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh282/juric_0404/100_0895.jpg)
these babies are huge but fits well with sabre racks. just add the rubber stopper and no more vibrations!
good upgrade din for me as it fits well on the rack!
nice on bro, ano pinalitan mo? i mean what was the previous center speaker? :D
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nice on bro, ano pinalitan mo? i mean what was the previous center speaker? :D
this is already the upgraded one from a WH2 center ;D im contemplating on getting a series 10 center and surrounds.
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the review struck me because it used naim amp/pre. naims' got a reputation of being the hi-end counterpart of rotel - fast detailed and have good driving capability. yet the reviewer described the 10.5 to be a "little too warm, rich and laid back..." nads' are known to be on the warm-side.
The mods on my NAD made it less warm, but I wouldn't say it sounds bright now. More like from small jazz club it kinda sounds like a concert hall now. I'm sure if a stock 304 or most other NADs for that matter the 10.5 might sound too shy still, despite the midrange.
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At the price, I love the 10.5 :D Everyone order yours from avshop, Im still torn between that and my Pi10's hahaha
thanks. :)
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Is 10.5 better than 10.6? (Whats the difference po?) I'm planning to buy and pair it to 10.1 (surround) and 10cm (center), pls. advise, thanks in advance...
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Is 10.5 better than 10.6? (Whats the difference po?) I'm planning to buy and pair it to 10.1 (surround) and 10cm (center), pls. advise, thanks in advance...
i prefer the 10.5 since it has a dedicated mid-range driver. the 10.6 uses a dual woofer so it's not really a 3-way speaker but a 2-1/2 way speaker. :)
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i prefer the 10.5 since it has a dedicated mid-range driver. the 10.6 uses a dual woofer so it's not really a 3-way speaker but a 2-1/2 way speaker. :)
Thanks for the info 8)
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saw the 9.CM yesterday sa park square. the pictures don't do justice to how big (or how huge) it really is. also saw the 10.4 (dual 5.25"). looks interesting din given how the 9.1/10.1 were given rave reviews though there is always the reservation regarding lack of low end grunt. and i do agree the diamond 10's look really good in actual viewing.
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up.......bago mag-page 2. tahimik ah, puro series9 ang nasa marketplace/fs ;D
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Available na ba other colors?
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Available na ba other colors?
wala pa. :(
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ako rin waiting for other other colors. sayang kasi if mag settle ka for something na hindi match sa interiors
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Sir avshop, papost naman po pricelist ng wharfe 10 series mo vs. 9 series :)
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silent mode ang diamond 10 thread. is this good or bad? any more reviews of the 10.5. im planning to get a pair this christmas. TIA.
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silent mode ang diamond 10 thread. is this good or bad? any more reviews of the 10.5. im planning to get a pair this christmas. TIA.
uunga eh noticed that too. i have'nt heard these babies sing yet.
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uunga eh noticed that too. i have'nt heard these babies sing yet.
wala pa rin used fs sa pdvd marketplace!
baka...
a>...binebreak-in pa?
b> ...di pa available ibang kulay maliban sa itim? ::)
k>...umaasang magbababa ng presyo sa 2010? (asa pa tayo, eh series 9 di pa yata binababa presyo!) ;D
d>...di naman kalayuan ang tunog o mas maganda pa ang series 9? ::)
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my theory is sales of the 10 series is not as brisk as the 9 series because of the price increase. marami siguro satisfied na sa 9 series kaya ayaw na mag-upgrade. i have 10.2 which imho is a lot better than my 9.1s but also more expensive.
i for one would be interested in a 10.5 with a good price. :)
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Still happy with the Diamond 9's ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sold my 9.1 this morning... I need a replacement floorstander immediately.
9.5 @ 12.5k or 10.5 @15.8k? My center is 9.cs, and surrounds are 9dfs.
Tempting ang 10.5 because of the dedicated bass. Pero I'm worried about the rear-port feature. My fronts are only about 1 foot away from the rear wall. Baka not enough clearance for the 10.5 rear ports?
Advice naman mga master... ???
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Actually the strongest feature of the 10.5 isnt the dedicated bass driver, but the dedicated midrange. If you're worried about the distance between the wall and rear port, see if there's enough space to squeeze a sound absorption panel there. Mine works well, except I was able to move the speakers forward then just used the panels for the side walls.
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Thanks sir ProtegeManiac.
I just came back from Listening Room Megamall. Fate has played a part in my decision since they do not have the 10.5 available. 9.5 was available in black. 12.5k usapan namin ni Minnie, then she gave me the last-minute discount so 12k na lang kuha ko. 5k cash, remaining 7k via credit card 6-month installment. The 10.5 were by order, and priced at 15.3k only.
I'll stay away from this Wharf Diamond 10 thread for awhile, para iwas tukso... :'( Baka sa Wharfedale Diamond 11 na lang uli ako mag-iisip. ;D
OT: on my way to Listening Room, na-tukso muna ako sa Mordaunt Short Carnival 8. I miss my old MS Premier Satellite speakers. Easy to drive, and great clarity.
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Congratulations on your purchase, either way just power them properly ;)
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hello out there,
can anyone post here the SRPs of the 10's?
tnx
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hello out there,
can anyone post here the SRPs of the 10's?
tnx
pm avshop or sanjay
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10.1 - 7k
10.2 - 9.3k
10.3 - 12k
10.4 - 15k
10.5 - 17k
10.6 - 19k
10.7 - 25k
10cs - 6k
10cm - 8.6k
10sr - 4.5k
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=102386.0
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Need a suggestion for the surround speakers, 10SR or 10DFS?
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Need a suggestion for the surround speakers, 10SR or 10DFS?
id go for dfs kaso wala pa ata nito for the 10 series.
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id go for dfs kaso wala pa ata nito for the 10 series.
Thanks. If I eventually complete a 7.1 setup, should I still use DFS as surround or place it at the side already? Newbie question... ;D
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id go for dfs kaso wala pa ata nito for the 10 series.
sir meron po sa spectra audio in park square, di ko lang natanong yung price. i even checked the terminals and label at the back kung 10DFS nga kasi kamukha lang ng 9DFS. :D
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Thanks. If I eventually complete a 7.1 setup, should I still use DFS as surround or place it at the side already? Newbie question... ;D
Pwede pa ren DFS sa 7.1 hehehe. :)
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Rephrase question na lang ;D For a 7.1 setup, what's the recommended surround and side speakers? Recommended talaga na DFS both side and surround?
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sir meron po sa spectra audio in park square, di ko lang natanong yung price. i even checked the terminals and label at the back kung 10DFS nga kasi kamukha lang ng 9DFS. :D
thanks for the info! any idea how much?
thanks!
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thanks for the info! any idea how much?
thanks!
hhhmmmm may masamang balak ang mama ;D
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di naman masyado ganu kasama :D curious lang ;D
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Rephrase question na lang ;D For a 7.1 setup, what's the recommended surround and side speakers? Recommended talaga na DFS both side and surround?
Depends sayo bro. DFS will probably be more diffused, which can help kung malawak yung room.
Diamond 9.3 gamit kong Surround and Surround Back for 7.1. I like being able to cross my speakers low, mas gusto ko yung enveloping sound. Pansin din kasi in some movies that have bass sa surround channels. Maski kasi sabihing non-directional yung lows, room interaction often helps you tell where it's coming from.
Because of this, I like using the sub mostly for LFE by keeping bass redirection to a minimum.
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Anybody knows the difference between the 9dfs and the 10dfs?
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Diamond 10DFS
Format Surround
Bass/Mid Driver 2 X 100mm
Tweeter 2 X 25mm
Suitable Amplifier Power 15 - 120W
Nominal Impedance 6 Ω
A/V Shielded no
Sensitivity (1W @ 1M) 86 dB
Nominal Frequency Range 70-24kHz
HF Limit (-10dB) 44kHz
Freq. Fb 80Hz
Crossover Frequency 3.5kHz
Dimensions (mm)(H*W*D) 280*290*132
BASS 4
TWEETER 25mm tex x 2
POWER 15-200W
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE 6ohm
SENSITIVITY 86dB
FREQUENCY 70-24k @-6dB
CROSSOVER 3.5k
FREQUENCY FB 80Hz
DIMENSIONS 290x280x132
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Products/Product/tabid/78/PID/10/CID/53/language/en-GB/Default.aspx#detail
does not look like much, the 10 is even smaller.
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I'm looking for Diamond 10.1 and 10cs in wenge but everyone is selling black only. Any leads where I can get these? Rosewood is okay too if not Wenge but sana hindi black.
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natry mo na ba tanungin ung mga shops? baka kailangan special order yan.
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Yes, called a handful of shops. no one selling other than black.
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Has anybody tried the 10.sr already? Any reviews on this?
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Hi guys, can you recommend any AVR that fits this diamond 10 series? What do you think of Pioneer 819? Thanks!
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Hi guys, can you recommend any AVR that fits this diamond 10 series? What do you think of Pioneer 819? Thanks!
You might like to PM Nogie,
Not sure what his model receiver was, but he was pretty happy with his Pioneer receiver ;)
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http://whathifi.com/Review/Wharfedale-Diamond-105/
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Mga Dude!! wala akong masabe sa Diamond 10.1.. talagang tinalo nya pa ang B&W 685 at Q Acoustic 1010.. sobrang linis ng tunog, nung nakinig ako ng Jazz para akong nasa harap ng actual na saxophone. Wag nyo palampasin ang pagkakataon na 'to.. Thanks.. ;D
Mantele2010
Sony 40 KDL S4100
Pioneer Elite VSX 21TXH
Panasonic DMP BD35 Bluray
Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 - Front
Wharfedale Diamond 6 - Surround
Wharfedale WH-2 - Surround Back
Bose VCS 10 - Center
Velodyne CHT 10 - Subwoofer
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hi sirs, currently setting up my townhouse and this is the setup i will be putting in my living room ( high ceiling and is beside kitchen and dining area
front : none pa
center : wharfedale 9cs
surround : wharfdale 9.dfs
sub : wharfdale sw150
amp : none pa
I want to hook up my PS3 to be my primary blu-ray player, what amp/receiver should i get na babagay sa speakers ko (need it to have optical so i can plug my ps3 there) ? Planning to get wharf 10's for my front ( what model do you suggest or if not wharf, what other brand )
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hi sirs, currently setting up my townhouse and this is the setup i will be putting in my living room ( high ceiling and is beside kitchen and dining area
front : none pa
center : wharfedale 9cs
surround : wharfdale 9.dfs
sub : wharfdale sw150
amp : none pa
I want to hook up my PS3 to be my primary blu-ray player, what amp/receiver should i get na babagay sa speakers ko (need it to have optical so i can plug my ps3 there) ? Planning to get wharf 10's for my front ( what model do you suggest or if not wharf, what other brand )
How much is your budget for the receiver? Do you prefer bookshelf speakers or towers for your front speaks?
I suggest going with Diamond 9 speaks to match the sonic signature of the center speaker.
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receiver mid end siguro budget so i guess around 30-50++
was thinking of going with the yamaha rxv-1065, auditioned a wharf/yamaha combo before and it sounded suuuuweeeet ;D
cant find wharf 9's kasi in black, parang puro rosewood nalang nakikita ko thats why i was thinking of getting wharf 10's na
okay lang may stand , area im playing with is around 120" x 102" and the couch is already 80" x 35"
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That's a pretty intimate space. If you can no longer find suitable 9s, The Diamond 10.1 (Standmounts) or the Diamond 10.3 (Towers) would probably be a close match.
Since you liked the Yamaha with the Wharfes, there's no purpose looking any other way. :)
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thanks stagea
;D
ill post my ht set-up here soon
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Hello,
Would anyone know if when magkaroon ng ibang colors ang diamond 10?
Thanks
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Hi pdvders,
Question lang po, i am planning to bi wire my front and center loud speakers but npansin ko na wala yung isang metal strap ng center loud speaker, do i still need to have that metal strap if ibibi-wire ko yung mga loud speakers ko? TIA
cheers,
Niño
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Hello,
Ask ko po lang mga advise ninyo, which diamond po ang better for surround ang 10.1 or 10 dfs. ma notice ko ba ang difference ng low end bass ng 10.1 during movies compared to the dfs because yung xover of 10.1 is 50hz den yong dfs is 70hz? Here are my thoughts, 10.1 100wats and goes lower at 50-48hz den dfs nmn 120wats 70hz ang pinaka lowest niya. so mas mlakas kunti yung dfs in terms of watage tapos i have 2 4inch at 2 tweeters respectively so more drivers than 10.1 and easy to install din sa wall. so thats y i favor the dfs more. on the other hand nmn ang nagustohan ko lang sa 10.1 is it can go low at 50-48hz and maganda siya tingnan compared sa dfs. Is it worth it to go for the 10.1? will i hear a very big difference in bass when the sound goes to the back during movies? hope you could help me guys as soon as possible cause ill be getting them this 1st week of december. tnx.
setup ko po is:
front: diamond 9.6
center: diamond 9cs
surround: ?????????????????????????????????????????????
surround back:?????????????????????????????????????
sub: US audio 512, i think ???
Projector: acer h5360
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Suggestion lang: Kung 9 series yung front stage mo, mag 9 series ka na din na surround speaks para matched.
As for the surround speaker type, bookshelves or towers typically sound better (especially for music), but bipole/dipole wallmount speaks have better dispersion, are less localizeable, and are less of an eyesore.
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Hi pdvders,
Question lang po, i am planning to bi wire my front and center loud speakers but npansin ko na wala yung isang metal strap ng center loud speaker, do i still need to have that metal strap if ibibi-wire ko yung mga loud speakers ko? TIA
cheers,
Niño
you actually have to REMOVE those if you're bi-wiring
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you actually have to REMOVE those if you're bi-wiring
Thank you Mark!
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Suggestion lang: Kung 9 series yung front stage mo, mag 9 series ka na din na surround speaks para matched.
As for the surround speaker type, bookshelves or towers typically sound better (especially for music), but bipole/dipole wallmount speaks have better dispersion, are less localizeable, and are less of an eyesore.
tnx for the tips sir. but sold out na po yung 9 series dito sa cebu all there selling here are 10 series line na.
will ask the shop today if pwede bang mag order ng 9 series. if not then i have no other option but to get the 10 series for surrounds.
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tnx for the tips sir. but sold out na po yung 9 series dito sa cebu all there selling here are 10 series line na.
will ask the shop today if pwede bang mag order ng 9 series. if not then i have no other option but to get the 10 series for surrounds.
Ahh, in that case go ahead with the Diamond 10 units. It's only a minor difference anyway.
Good luck!
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Ahh, in that case go ahead with the Diamond 10 units. It's only a minor difference anyway.
Good luck!
Just bought the 10 dfs today, couldn't wait na until weekend. hehe! looks really gud sa wall nag beblend lng ang design niya with other thing na meron. E setup ko pa and will hook it up sa onkyo 707 tonight. tnx for the help, really appreciate it.
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I have Wharfedale 10.6 fronts, CS 9.0 center, and WH3 surrounds.....while it sounds alright to my newbie ears, I know this mixed match set up has it's flaws....what should I watch out for with this kind of setup? Will continuing to keep this setup damage in any way my speakers or avr? Thanks for your comments.
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Any in depth review of the 10.1 from users here?
I went to an audio/video store in HP last week (former image) and I ask the salesman there which is better, the 9.1 or 10.1 and he said the 9.1 is still better (?!). I owned the 9.1 before so I know how it sound and frankly speaking, it didn't suit my taste to a tee thus I sold it. Now, I'm planning to try out the 10.1 to see if the series improved but with a comment such as above, I'm having second thoughts. By the way, the same salesperson recommends the PSB alpha b1 to be better than the 2 diamonds. Hmmm .... :-\
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Up the topic...I'm planning to buy straight Diamond 10 speakers as an upgrade to my old and trusted Yamaha NS-100 speakers with a Yamaha AVR as well. Would the Diamond 10 complement with the Yamaha AVR or would this cause any issues?
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Sandbox,
That should be ok.
Any in depth review of the 10.1 from users here?
I went to an audio/video store in HP last week (former image) and I ask the salesman there which is better, the 9.1 or 10.1 and he said the 9.1 is still better (?!). I owned the 9.1 before so I know how it sound and frankly speaking, it didn't suit my taste to a tee thus I sold it. Now, I'm planning to try out the 10.1 to see if the series improved but with a comment such as above, I'm having second thoughts. By the way, the same salesperson recommends the PSB alpha b1 to be better than the 2 diamonds. Hmmm .... :-\
The 10.1 has a bigger and heavier sound, when compared to the 9.1. Refinement has improved a tiny bit, but I think the 9.1 has better PRAT. Some gear will match better with the 9.1, whilst others will prefer the 10.1.
As with the salesperson, I also prefer the Alpha B1 over either. If you're going with Diamond bookshelves, I suggest listening to the 9.3. I find it more neutral and extended, with much less bloat and congestion (typical of the 9.1/10.1 because of the upper bass boost).
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Any in depth review of the 10.1 from users here?
I went to an audio/video store in HP last week (former image) and I ask the salesman there which is better, the 9.1 or 10.1 and he said the 9.1 is still better (?!). I owned the 9.1 before so I know how it sound and frankly speaking, it didn't suit my taste to a tee thus I sold it. Now, I'm planning to try out the 10.1 to see if the series improved but with a comment such as above, I'm having second thoughts. By the way, the same salesperson recommends the PSB alpha b1 to be better than the 2 diamonds. Hmmm .... :-\
I suggest trying out the Polk audio Tsi or Rti a series. Also the infinity Primus series. :)
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Got the 10.1 and 10.cs from sights and sounds, I'm happy with it and currently breaking it in. At mid of this year i'm planning to buy a floorstander and move my 10.1 to the rear. What floor stander do you recommend?
BTW, I auditioned as well the PolK Audio TSI 100 and its a shame I don't have the budget since I was aiming for a center and front speakers when I was there. Nonetheless the Diamond 10 series is a good buy for me.
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mga master ok lng po ba ang pairing ng hk160 sa wharfe 10? how about sa 10.4 kaya po ba to ng receiver? nagtatanong lng kasi 6 ohm ung wharfe tpos mababa pa ang sensitivity , pero mura naman . hehe
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mga master ok lng po ba ang pairing ng hk160 sa wharfe 10? how about sa 10.4 kaya po ba to ng receiver? nagtatanong lng kasi 6 ohm ung wharfe tpos mababa pa ang sensitivity , pero mura naman . hehe
Kayang kaya naman i-drive ng 160 yan. Pakinggan mo lang kasi baka medyo dark yung output with HK.
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Kayang kaya naman i-drive ng 160 yan. Pakinggan mo lang kasi baka medyo dark yung output with HK.
Sir nasa probinsya po ako kaya ang option ko is to get as much information as possible. Ano po ba usually ang magandang match sa avr na to?
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Hello mga sirs,
What is the amplifier for diamond 10 series? thanks
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Sir nasa probinsya po ako kaya ang option ko is to get as much information as possible. Ano po ba usually ang magandang match sa avr na to?
Something brighter-sounding siguro like Denon or Pioneer.
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Mga Sir, will a Wharfedale 10.2 match my wharfedale 8 center in terms of tone quality?
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Just bought the 10 dfs today, couldn't wait na until weekend. hehe! looks really gud sa wall nag beblend lng ang design niya with other thing na meron. E setup ko pa and will hook it up sa onkyo 707 tonight. tnx for the help, really appreciate it.
sir paano po ang installation ng DFS? kung yung TV ko with FS facing the wall na sa back wall pa din ba sya dapat ilagay or sa side wall? kasi pag sa back wall edi sa side ang firing ng speakers?
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hi guys, i am interested in diamond 10.2 and i am trying to find a decent review sa net pero wala akong makita. any user reviews/feedbacks? how does it compare with other similarly priced standmounters and higher priced speakers (other brands).. i am also interested with monitor audio's bx2, does the performance justifies the 5k price premium over the dia 10.2?
i hope you can help me guys. thanks ü
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what can you say about this wharf diamond 10?
im planning to buy this month
for 5.1
10CM-center
10.7 - front
10.2 - rear
sub - velo cht12q
future av - onkyo 609
for 7.1
future surround 10dfs
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Hello,
I am planning to buy surround sound speaker and I find the wharfdale DFS seems bang for the buck. Is it really bang for the buck? ParkSquare shop told me that the 9 DFS is has no significant improvement compared to the 10 DFS surround? Is that true or he just want to sell me the old model 9 DFS?
Looking forward to your feedback.
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Hello, Same question here. Hope someone can provide quick feedback as I tried searching in the net but can't find any comparison. Planning to get one very soon.
TIA!
Anybody knows the difference between the 9dfs and the 10dfs?
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where can i buy metal straps for my wharfedale diamond 10.1? yung nabili ko kasing 2nd hand wala siyang ganon sa likod.... saka ano po ba ginagawa nun? salamat!
(http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/13/77/33/14/war210.jpg)
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where can i buy metal straps for my wharfedale diamond 10.1? yung nabili ko kasing 2nd hand wala siyang ganon sa likod.... saka ano po ba ginagawa nun? salamat!
(http://i17.servimg.com/u/f17/13/77/33/14/war210.jpg)
im not so sure but possibly for wallmount option
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sir, yung wharf nyo ba may ganon din? yung bakal na nagbibind dun sa binding post... pag kinakabit ba yung speakers to ampli dapat ba may metal straps?
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sir, yung wharf nyo ba may ganon din? yung bakal na nagbibind dun sa binding post... pag kinakabit ba yung speakers to ampli dapat ba may metal straps?
kung yung sa may binding post na nagdidikit nung 2x negative and 2x positive
pwede mo gamitin ordinary copper wire as replacement :)
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ano ba ang gamit nung metal strap na iyon? pwede bang hindi ko na lagyan yung akin?
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ano ba ang gamit nung metal strap na iyon? pwede bang hindi ko na lagyan yung akin?
ok lang yan ,....mahalaga dyan may receiver ka saka speaker cable hahaha...
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ano ba ang gamit nung metal strap na iyon? pwede bang hindi ko na lagyan yung akin?
kung naka bi-amp ka tatanggalin mo yun metral strap na yun. kung di naman dapat nakakabit yun.
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kala ko ung butas sa likod meron nakalagay dun na nawawala baliw talaga ako reply lang ng reply
nawawala nga ung copper plate nung 10.1 mo
dapat nakakabit nga yun...
sabi din ni joko saken un before sa 9.1 ko dapat nakakabit un..
tatangalin lang un kapag nagbi AMP...
my bad bad bad
thanks papa ninja .....sensya na ...hindi ko binabasa maige hahaha
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kala ko ung butas sa likod meron nakalagay dun na nawawala baliw talaga ako reply lang ng reply
nawawala nga ung copper plate nung 10.1 mo
dapat nakakabit nga yun...
sabi din ni joko saken un before sa 9.1 ko dapat nakakabit un..
tatangalin lang un kapag nagbi AMP...
my bad bad bad
thanks papa ninja .....sensya na ...hindi ko binabasa maige hahaha
tawag kasi ni merdenoms ay metal strap kaya nakakalito, di rin ako sure sa reply ko kasi ang focus nung image nya ay yung sa wall mount option. ;D
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PATAY!!! hahaha!!! so, copper wire nalang lalagay ko master ninja babez?
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okay lang kaya ipares ang 9cm sa 10.1? ::)
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okay lang kaya ipares ang 9cm sa 10.1? ::)
PWEDE naman
depends on you but better if 10cm kunin mo
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PATAY!!! hahaha!!! so, copper wire nalang lalagay ko master ninja babez?
based dun sa picture mukha namang intact pa yung jumper plates nung speakers mo. why worry about jumper cables? ok na yan as is
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based dun sa picture mukha namang intact pa yung jumper plates nung speakers mo. why worry about jumper cables? ok na yan as is
di yata sa kanya yung image bro :)
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kala ko ung butas sa likod meron nakalagay dun na nawawala baliw talaga ako reply lang ng reply
nawawala nga ung copper plate nung 10.1 mo
dapat nakakabit nga yun...
sabi din ni joko saken un before sa 9.1 ko dapat nakakabit un..
tatangalin lang un kapag nagbi AMP...
my bad bad bad
thanks papa ninja .....sensya na ...hindi ko binabasa maige hahaha
fafa, baka bi-WIRE.. ;) ;) ;)
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yep, hindi nga sa akin yung pic na yun.... kaya pala wire nalang yung ginamit nung pinagbilhan ko instead dun sa metal strap....
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yep, hindi nga sa akin yung pic na yun.... kaya pala wire nalang yung ginamit nung pinagbilhan ko instead dun sa metal strap....
CMIIW but copper wire is better than the metal strap, so dapat mas OK na copper wire gamitin :)
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salamat kapatid at naliwanagan na ako ukol sa mga speakers.... medyo bago palang ako sa hobby na ito!!! at isa lang ang masasabi ko.... magastos pero masaya =)
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@raider
salamat!!! balak ko kasi pagsamahin si 9cm(bigay ni utol) at 10.1 buti nalang at okay lang pala ipagpares...
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magkano in pesos ang diamond bookshelf 10.2?
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as posted by E-Reply (SnS) at the Marketplace
(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee128/ereply/Wharfedale55.jpg)
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mga sir, okay lang ba i-wall mount ang 10.1 ? parang anlaki kasi makakain na space pag bumili pa ako ng stands.
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mga sir, okay lang ba i-wall mount ang 10.1 ? parang anlaki kasi makakain na space pag bumili pa ako ng stands.
Why not? My DIY BS which is almost twice the size of your 10.1, naka-ceiling mounted pa. Just make sure very firm ang pagkaka-mount mo. if possible, make sure na minimal vibration kapag tumutugtog.
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ang problema sir, rear ported po ata itong diamond 10.1.. lam ko may minimum distance dapat ang speaker sa wall :)
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ang problema sir, rear ported po ata itong diamond 10.1.. lam ko may minimum distance dapat ang speaker sa wall :)
Yun lang. Mga 6 inches man lang sana sa wall. Front ported kasi ang BS ko.
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boomy 10.1 kapag near wall
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@raider
meron bang wall mount na kaya nyang ilayo yung speaker sa wall (saktong clearance para hindi maging boomy).. iniiisip ko, pag nag speaker stand ako, malaki ang masasakop nyang space =). CHALAMAT!
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^ i think what you can do is to add acoustic absorber panels behind the speaker to reduce the effects of boundary loading
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^ i think what you can do is to add acoustic absorber panels behind the speaker to reduce the effects of boundary loading
Yes. Or gayahin mo yun aeroport ng Polk. :D
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Any reviews po sa 10.2?
Can Pio 521 drive these series?
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Sino nagbebenta ng Wharfedales na AV stores? SnS lang?
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Sino nagbebenta ng Wharfedales na AV stores? SnS lang?
Marami sir..
Watt HiFi
AVSHOP
Listening Room
SNS
Spectra
Halos lahat ata nang AV stores may Wharfs eh
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Thanks Courage!
Marami sir..
Watt HiFi
AVSHOP
Listening Room
SNS
Spectra
Halos lahat ata nang AV stores may Wharfs eh
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Just bought my first Speaker and Amp.
10.1 and Pio 521.
suggest naman kayo ng magandang sub.
my first option was SW150 but then my friend told me that mag klipsch na lang daw ako.
ok lang naman daw kahit ibang brand ang gamitin ko sa sub. and he is recommending SW350 as my sub.
guys what do you think?
Thanks pinoydvd. very helpful and informative forum. dahil sa inyo napabili ako hehehe ;D
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binili ko pilyo sub with pioneer driver kasi malaki kwarto ko =) pero kung maliit naman, yung mga entry level ng polk, klipsch, svs, o kaya us audio ay pwede na.
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Just bought my first Speaker and Amp.
10.1 and Pio 521.
suggest naman kayo ng magandang sub.
my first option was SW150 but then my friend told me that mag klipsch na lang daw ako.
ok lang naman daw kahit ibang brand ang gamitin ko sa sub. and he is recommending SW310 as my sub.
guys what do you think?
Thanks pinoydvd. very helpful and informative forum. dahil sa inyo napabili ako hehehe ;D
good MIDS are good sa 10series
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udpate ko lang po.
1. SW350 pala yung suggestion nya.
2. Wharfedale SW 150
any inputs po?
ano po mas prefer nyo na sub?
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^ gaano kalaki kwarto nyo boss?
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up for you Sir! :)
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okay ba palagyan ng vifa tweeter xt25 itong diamond 10.1? sulit ba talaga ang upgrade? =)
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ang problema sir, rear ported po ata itong diamond 10.1.. lam ko may minimum distance dapat ang speaker sa wall :)
Cross them high so that the port would have very little output.
okay ba palagyan ng vifa tweeter xt25 itong diamond 10.1? sulit ba talaga ang upgrade? =)
Imo, build a new speaker na lang if ganyan ang balak mo. You'd probably need to change too many things to make it work right anyway.
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Imo, build a new speaker na lang if ganyan ang balak mo. You'd probably need to change too many things to make it work right anyway.
Agree. What's up with this vifa craze? Would you buy ready-to-eat ribs in SM hypermarket with the intent of re-roasting and re-basting it to taste like ribs from, for example, racks? Hell no. Just buy the damn baby ribs in racks or start from scratch. And leave the good working speaker alone to function as designed. If you have a spare old speaker that you'd rather tweak than dispose, then that's a different matter.
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Cross them high so that the port would have very little output.
Imo, build a new speaker na lang if ganyan ang balak mo. You'd probably need to change too many things to make it work right anyway.
Ito rin naiisip ko kaya I'll just keep my 9.3's in stock and just save up the cash for new speakers. I reckon speakers were designed and created with a distinct voice
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Imo, build a new speaker na lang if ganyan ang balak mo. You'd probably need to change too many things to make it work right anyway.
Agree. What's up with this vifa craze? Would you buy ready-to-eat ribs in SM hypermarket with the intent of re-roasting and re-basting it to taste like ribs from, for example, racks? Hell no. Just buy the damn baby ribs in racks or start from scratch. And leave the good working speaker alone to function as designed. If you have a spare old speaker that you'd rather tweak than dispose, then that's a different matter.
kasi minsan its cheaper to modify than to diy parang baby ribs in racks lalagyan mo ng konting salt and pepper or tabasco ;)
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yep... i'm just looking for a cheaper alternative... if it's worth the try then i might give it a shot =)
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Hello -- I know this is an old thread, but I'm trying to choose between the Wharf 10.2 and the 10.5 models. I'm upgrading from old Bose 301's that most folks now say is pretty lame compared to most (and im really starting to agree after a few auditions). In fact one joke i read said, i could throw a stone at random, and wherever it lands -- i'd likely find a speaker set better than the Bose -- geez.
Anyway, I know the two models are very different -- the bookshelves more for HT and the floorstanders for music (at least that's the general idea). That said - while i watch movies more than listen to music -- i still do both and wouldnt want to compromise. If i get the 10.5 -- am i giving up something, or is it the other way around.
They say the Wharf's in general are too laid back though. Good "umph" (warm) -- but perhaps lacking clarity? I've also auditioned the Polk RTiA3's -- which while on the pricy side -- some find too bright. To give you an idea -- my staple music is rock, but i do listen to new age, jazz fusion, and the like. So i listen to Motley Crue, to Narada, to Acoustic Alchemy, and even some classical music when I'm in the mood. For movies, i like active movies --so my BD collection has Dark Knight, Sherlock Holmes, 5th element, and the like. What would be a well rounded speaker set that would suit my tastes?
Advise is most welcome -- and thank you all in advance!
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Hello -- I know this is an old thread, but I'm trying to choose between the Wharf 10.2 and the 10.5 models. I'm upgrading from old Bose 301's that most folks now say is pretty lame compared to most (and im really starting to agree after a few auditions). In fact one joke i read said, i could throw a stone at random, and wherever it lands -- i'd likely find a speaker set better than the Bose -- geez.
Anyway, I know the two models are very different -- the bookshelves more for HT and the floorstanders for music (at least that's the general idea). That said - while i watch movies more than listen to music -- i still do both and wouldnt want to compromise. If i get the 10.5 -- am i giving up something, or is it the other way around.
They say the Wharf's in general are too laid back though. Good "umph" (warm) -- but perhaps lacking clarity? I've also auditioned the Polk RTiA3's -- which while on the pricy side -- some find too bright. To give you an idea -- my staple music is rock, but i do listen to new age, jazz fusion, and the like. So i listen to Motley Crue, to Narada, to Acoustic Alchemy, and even some classical music when I'm in the mood. For movies, i like active movies --so my BD collection has Dark Knight, Sherlock Holmes, 5th element, and the like. What would be a well rounded speaker set that would suit my tastes?
Advise is most welcome -- and thank you all in advance!
What receiver are you running? Have you listened to both the 10.2 and the 10.5?
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I use a Yamaha receiver. Have to check the model -- but its around 5yrs old (at least). Yes I auditioned both, and I'm leaning towards the 10.5. But i think its only because there's this psychological thing in my head that says there's something extra in a 3-way setup. Honestly though, they sound almost the same -- which is why I'm having a hard time deciding. Price is also miles apart -- with the 10.2's below 10K. So unless I'm really getting something extra -- is it worth the extra 5-7K to get the 10.5?
Thanks for the response Stagea!
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I think its a Yamaha 595
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Confirmed its 595.
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Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting 10.1 for my fronts.
My question is, what's recommended for the following:
Center?
Surround?
Sub?
I'm living in a condo and I will be placing it in my living room (around 15-20 sqm)
Also, will a Pioneer VSX521 receiver be compatible with these?
Thanks in advance!
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ano difference sa SQ ng wharfe 10.1 vs 10.3? gamitin ko kasi sa bedroom. initially looking at the 10.1 kaso wala na space sa rack ko. pwede bumili ng branded stands (3k daw) or magpagawa pero baka kasi di pulido. 5k kasi ang price difference so kung same lang din naman tunog nila e di sa stands na lang ako. 10.1 pa lang na-audition ko e.
yun room ko 3m x 3m size.
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Hi guys,
I'm thinking of getting 10.1 for my fronts.
My question is, what's recommended for the following:
Center?
Surround?
Sub?
I'm living in a condo and I will be placing it in my living room (around 15-20 sqm)
Also, will a Pioneer VSX521 receiver be compatible with these?
Thanks in advance!
Get the complete set of diamond 10's na...since you are getting the 10.1 match it with the 10 cs and 10 dfs. Your 521 is enough to power that set.
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Get the complete set of diamond 10's na...since you are getting the 10.1 match it with the 10 cs and 10 dfs. Your 521 is enough to power that set.
Thanks bro!
Shall I be using the 10.1 for rears as well?
What's the difference between CS, CM & CC? All for centers right?
And what is the SR for?
Is the DFS the cheapest sub?
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Thanks bro!
Shall I be using the 10.1 for rears as well?
IMO, you shouldn't be using the 10.1 for surrounds unless you have a large room and the 10sr/10dfs doesn't cut it, or if you want identical speakers all around
What's the difference between CS, CM & CC? All for centers right?
medium, large, and small respectively. IMO, 10.1 to 10.4 goes well with 10cs, 10.5 to 10.7 for 10cm, 10.0 for 10cc. these are not hard and fast rules though, mix and match according to your taste
And what is the SR for?
it's a direct radiating (monopole) on-wall surround speaker
Is the DFS the cheapest sub?
DFS is not a sub, it's a bipole on-wall surround speaker
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@rthirtyfourgtr
Great! Thanks a lot for the much needed info! :D
Btw, if I were to get 10.1 fronts, what would you recommend for Rears & Sub?
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^ i'd go with DFS (surround) for 5.1 set-up, DFS (surround) + SR (surround back) for 7.1
as for the subwoofer, just get the best your budget will allow (doesn't have to be wharfedales)
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^ i'd go with DFS (surround) for 5.1 set-up, DFS (surround) + SR (surround back) for 7.1
as for the subwoofer, just get the best your budget will allow (doesn't have to be wharfedales)
Thanks for the tip! I'll keep note of that.
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will the 10cs good enough for the 10.5s? eto lang kasi ang kasya sa rack ko..yung cm masyado nang malaki..
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I love my Wharfe 9.5s, pero may 3 pegs ng speaker grilles na nabali.
Palitan ko sana lahat (5 speakers) ng Polk Audio para maiba naman, pero baka daw hindi bagay sa Yamaha receiver ko.
Kung Wharfe Diamond 10, mas matibay na ba ang grilles and pegs? And bagay pa rin sa Yamaha receiver?
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I love my Wharfe 9.5s, pero may 3 pegs ng speaker grilles na nabali.
Palitan ko sana lahat (5 speakers) ng Polk Audio para maiba naman, pero baka daw hindi bagay sa Yamaha receiver ko.
Kung Wharfe Diamond 10, mas matibay na ba ang grilles and pegs? And bagay pa rin sa Yamaha receiver?
RE: diamond 10 vs 9
for bookshelf bro minimal to no difference bro, not sure about the FS. :)
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@barrister
if i'm not mistaken, diamond 10's grilles are now magnetically attached (no pegs), and the front panels are in piano black finish (no holes), so they look even better without grilles (compared to diamond 9 at least)
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@barrister
if i'm not mistaken, diamond 10's grilles are now magnetically attached (no pegs), and the front panels are in piano black finish (no holes), so they look even better without grilles (compared to diamond 9 at least)
the 10's still use pegs.
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^ hmmm, cost cutting??? didn't know they went back to using pegs, it was a touted feature when they were released...
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il0MXt4h6i0%3D&tabid=57
Enhanced front grille with ‘invisible’ fixing
The front grilles have been improved to ensure they have no adverse effect on
performance. In addition, they are now affixed without pegs, thereby eschewing the
need for unsightly holes in the speakers’ front baffles.
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^ hmmm, cost cutting??? didn't know they went back to using pegs, it was a touted feature when they were released...
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il0MXt4h6i0%3D&tabid=57
not sure what happend but i just sold my 10 cm last weekend, 100% certain that used pegs. if they are magnetic, then its poor workmanship compared to the klipsch magnetic grill.
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i see, was planning on updating my system pa naman sana (purely for aesthetic purposes,) but looks like i might want to keep the 9's even longer.
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i see, was planning on updating my system pa naman sana (purely for aesthetic purposes,) but looks like i might want keep the 9's even longer.
well, it did say invisible and it is a fact that you cant see the pegs but if you remove the grill, the holes can still be noticed, if oyu look at inside of the grill you will indeed notice the peg but if you are at your listening position, I doubt if you would notice a hole. maybe thats what they were advertising.
The 10's are still worth it, upgrade form a 9 to a 10 though im not certain because the two series come one after the other. maybe the difference is more noticable if upgrading from an 8 to a 10.
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The pegs in Diamond 10's are far better than the 9 series.. mas makapal siya compare sa 9 series.. saka yung pinaka tinutusukan niya ay yung mismong screw cap ng speaker (stainless allen screw stud). hindi na gaya sa 9series na may sariling butas yung peg.. sa 9series ay apat lang while 10series eh anim yata.. ang downside nga lang ay sobrang sikip pag tinatanggal..
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How's the sonic signature of the 10's compared to 9's? I was able to audition the 9 series before and its generally on the warm/laid back side. If its the same, I might get a pre-owned 10.1 for a bedroom set-up to be paired with a marantz stereo receiver.
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The 10's still stay true to wharf reputation, warm to laidback with a very full sound. I havent heard it pared with a marantz though.
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Thanks Tim. I have been auditioning other speakers but most are a tad too bright for my taste. Mezzo 2 is also a choice since it has the same characteristic and with clearer mids but its beyond my budget right now.
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Thanks Tim. I have been auditioning other speakers but most are a tad too bright for my taste. Mezzo 2 is also a choice since it has the same characteristic and with clearer mids but its beyond my budget right now.
Uy panalo ang mezzo. I listened to a nice pair at park square 1 driven by a yamaha. Malambing.:)
Try to listen to a pioneer wharf combo or a yammy wharf combo. You cant go wrong with either.
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RE: diamond 10 vs 9
for bookshelf bro minimal to no difference bro, not sure about the FS. :)
Thanks. I'm interested in the 10.7.
Ok lang ang minimal difference, since I already like my Diamond 9.5. Regardless of price, there's a chance that a change can worsen my setup. So a minimal difference would be a safe change.
@barrister
if i'm not mistaken, diamond 10's grilles are now magnetically attached (no pegs), and the front panels are in piano black finish (no holes), so they look even better without grilles (compared to diamond 9 at least)
^ hmmm, cost cutting??? didn't know they went back to using pegs, it was a touted feature when they were released...
http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il0MXt4h6i0%3D&tabid=57 (http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Il0MXt4h6i0%3D&tabid=57)
Ok lang siguro kahit pegs pa rin, as long as they're more durable than the ones on the 9.
The pegs in Diamond 10's are far better than the 9 series.. mas makapal siya compare sa 9 series.. saka yung pinaka tinutusukan niya ay yung mismong screw cap ng speaker (stainless allen screw stud). hindi na gaya sa 9series na may sariling butas yung peg.. sa 9series ay apat lang while 10series eh anim yata.. ang downside nga lang ay sobrang sikip pag tinatanggal..
That's good to know. Hindi naman ako nagtatanggal ng grilles, so OK lang na masikip ang pegs, basta matibay.
Yung Diamond 9.5 pegs ko, hindi ko naman tinatanggal ang grilles, nabali lang ang pegs dahil sa kakabuhat ng speaker. I sometimes need to get them out of the way so I can reach the components behind the AV rack. Nagkasunod-sunod yata ang upgrade ko, kaya madalas nabuhat ang front speakers.
The 10's still stay true to wharf reputation, warm to laidback with a very full sound. I havent heard it pared with a marantz though.
That's good to know.
I like a neutral-to-warm sound, but not too warm. I like my Diamond 9 because I like Yamaha receivers, and its match with the Diamond 9 was the only pairing I liked at the time.
What I'd like to know is why the warm-bright distinction still holds true today, despite the fact that auto parametric equalization is now common on AV Receivers. I know that PEQ has its limitations, but I thought it would at least broaden our speaker choices? Why is it that speaker matching seems to be as burdensome as before?
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What I'd like to know is why the warm-bright distinction still holds true today, despite the fact that auto parametric equalization is now common on AV Receivers. I know that PEQ has its limitations, but I thought it would at least broaden our speaker choices? Why is it that speaker matching seems to be as burdensome as before?
Tama ka parin naman atty. the equalization that the receivers do, indeed makes our speaker choices broader, when i auditioned Rti's, diamond 10's and klipsch i only noticed the difference when the sound suddenly peaks, a sudden cymbal smash or a vocal scream for example is where i noticed a difference bit generally speaking all the speakers sounded well with any receiver combo. I cannot explain why so i guess its still up to the listener.
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So parametric EQ is a good thing generally speaking, but it's still advisable to match speakers with receivers because mis-matches will be noticeable during peaks.
Thanks, that's a good observation.
I previously posted a question on that point, but nobody answered.
Wharfedale 10 na nga siguro ako instead of Polk TSi500. Match na sa Yammy, mas mura pa.
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So parametric EQ is a good thing generally speaking, but it's still advisable to match speakers with receivers because mis-matches will be noticeable during peaks.
Thanks, that's a good observation.
I previously posted a question on that point, but nobody answered.
Wharfedale 10 na nga siguro ako instead of Polk TSi500. Match na sa Yammy, mas mura pa.
Tama po atty. between your choice of 10's vs tsi's +1 ako sa decision mo because i find the 10's soind to be more full compared to tsi. And pinagtabi ko that time was a 10.5 vs a tsi300, medyo unfair nga lang to the tsi kasi the 10.5 had bigger drivers and is a full 3way.
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That's why I like the big speakers.
The way I see it, you need a big speaker if you want a big sound. Yung laging naririnig ko na may latest speakers daw na small size but big sound (na naman? :D ) --- not true :P .
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That's why I like the big speakers.
The way I see it, you need a big speaker if you want a big sound. Yung laging naririnig ko na may latest speakers daw na small size but big sound (na naman? :D ) --- not true :P .
agree. saka mas malaki ang coverage area ng sound ng big speakers, hindi rin masakit sa tenga pag nilakasan, unlike yung mga maliliit na speakers
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suddenly got an interest with yamaha and wharfe combination :D
parinig naman nyan bro barrister :)
btw bro a member here inserted a foam sa port ng wharfe nya, forgot the name but he said it sounded better, nawala ang muddy bass. incase masobrahan sa bass ang 10 series for you baka pwede mo ito gawin :)
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suddenly got an interest with yamaha and wharfe combination :D
parinig naman nyan bro barrister :)
Baka gusto mo bilhin yung Diamond 9 (5 speakers) ko sir... ;)
btw bro a member here inserted a foam sa port ng wharfe nya, forgot the name but he said it sounded better, nawala ang muddy bass. incase masobrahan sa bass ang 10 series for you baka pwede mo ito gawin :)
Ayos ang bass ng Wharfe Diamond 9.5 ko sir. Malakas talaga ang bass, but definitely not boomy or muddy. Wala nga sana akong balak palitan, nabali lang ang grille pegs.
Baka nasa room interactions lang niya ang problema kaya kailangan ng bung. Balita ko mas mahina nang konti ang bass ng Diamond 10, so lalong malabo na kailangan ko ng foam bung sa Diamond 10.
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suddenly got an interest with yamaha and wharfe combination :D
parinig naman nyan bro barrister :)
btw bro a member here inserted a foam sa port ng wharfe nya, forgot the name but he said it sounded better, nawala ang muddy bass. incase masobrahan sa bass ang 10 series for you baka pwede mo ito gawin :)
Ganito setup ko, wharfe 9 and an older yamaha. Back then nung nag start palang ako sa pdvd, early 2000s, yan and palagi recommended ng mga members dito, thats why ganun setup ko. Never naman ako na disappoint.
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Baka gusto mo bilhin yung Diamond 9 (5 speakers) ko sir... ;)
nakuh bro di maganda sa receiver ko ang wharfe. :(
tried 9 series BS and FS (kila avshop) already pati sa older denon 1509 ko di talaga maganda chemistry nila (denon and wharfe) :D
bagay sa denon ko either neutral (svs sts is what im using right now), or bright speakers.
Ayos ang bass ng Wharfe Diamond 9.5 ko sir. Malakas talaga ang bass, but definitely not boomy or muddy. Wala nga sana akong balak palitan, nabali lang ang grille pegs.
Baka nasa room interactions lang niya ang problema kaya kailangan ng bung. Balita ko mas mahina nang konti ang bass ng Diamond 10, so lalong malabo na kailangan ko ng foam bung sa Diamond 10.
when paired with onkyo or Harman bro i can safely say maganda ang wharfe. :)
OT ng konte: bro barrister ayaw mo audition ang acoustic energy? >:D >:D
Ganito setup ko, wharfe 9 and an older yamaha. Back then nung nag start palang ako sa pdvd, early 2000s, yan and palagi recommended ng mga members dito, thats why ganun setup ko. Never naman ako na disappoint.
uso ngayon dito bro yamaha and paradigm or polk naman ;D
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nakuh bro di maganda sa receiver ko ang wharfe. :(
tried 9 series BS and FS (kila avshop) already pati sa older denon 1509 ko di talaga maganda chemistry nila (denon and wharfe) :D
bagay sa denon ko either neutral (svs sts is what im using right now), or bright speakers.
when paired with onkyo or Harman bro i can safely say maganda ang wharfe. :)
OT ng konte: bro barrister ayaw mo audition ang acoustic energy? >:D >:D
Puwidi rin, basta Yammy receiver ang ka-partner.
Hindi nga raw bagay sa Denon ang Wharfe, lagi ko ngang nababasa dito yan.
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Puwidi rin, basta Yammy receiver ang ka-partner.
Hindi nga raw bagay sa Denon ang Wharfe, lagi ko ngang nababasa dito yan.
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You know why sir just because both source and speaker were sounds bright and more on vocals... the best tag team gears are the warm and bright set up. just my two cents lang po... :)
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You know why sir just because both source and speaker were sounds bright and more on vocals... the best tag team gears are the warm and bright set up. just my two cents lang po... :)
But wharfs are very warm, sometimes nga laid back na eh. Im even scared to try it on tubes kasi baka dark na ang sound.
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But wharfs are very warm, sometimes nga laid back na eh. Im even scared to try it on tubes kasi baka dark na ang sound.
Klipsch horns ang mabenta sa tubes, di ba?
That's the hard part about amp-speaker matching. You really have to audition them all, which is, of course, impossible.
Most of the time, the best we can do is ask around. That's where pinoydvd can be very helpful.
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Klipsch horns ang mabenta sa tubes, di ba?
That's the hard part about amp-speaker matching. You really have to audition them all, which is, of course, impossible.
Most of the time, the best we can do is ask around. That's where pinoydvd can be very helpful.
Exacto mundo broder! This community is very helpful indeed. And the horns are great with the tubes talaga atty. sobrang nawala yung tining ng tweeters. Yung Rti din atty bagay. Although nung nasubukan ko medyo bright parin.
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I also like Klipsch, hindi lang bagay sa Yammy receiver.
Klipsch lang ang may karapatang gumawa ng horns. :D AFAIK, Klipsch is the only brand that knows how to do horns right.
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But wharfs are very warm, sometimes nga laid back na eh. Im even scared to try it on tubes kasi baka dark na ang sound.
Oohhh my galiwow, I'm thinking other speak's... Sorry po sir!
Yup, I used before wharf fs (8 and 9 series) speaker and hook it up to my vintage amps, warm sya at mas lamang ang bass sa mid's possible due to it big box... Did you ever try to used parametric equa? It is also good if you need to change freq (Bass, Vocals & High's) setting for you set up.
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Oohhh my galiwow, I'm thinking other speak's... Sorry po sir!
Yup, I used before wharf fs (8 and 9 series) speaker and hook it up to my vintage amps, warm sya at mas lamang ang bass sa mid's possible due to it big box... Did you ever try to used parametric equa? It is also good if you need to change freq (Bass, Vocals & High's) setting for you set up.
Hihi, no such thing with tubes sir. With an avr i did and i was able to tweak to my liking. :)
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OT ng konte: bro barrister ayaw mo audition ang acoustic energy? >:D >:D
bro barrister may nilaktawan ka >:D
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bro barrister may nilaktawan ka >:D
May reply ako don sir, special pa nga yung spelling ...
Puwidi rin, basta Yammy receiver ang ka-partner.
Tulungan mo na lang akong magbenta sir ... ;D
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173266.0.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173266.0.html)
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ah missed that ;D
btw posted already sa IFS mo :)
thats really cheap bro, ewan ko ba kung bakit may gusto pa ng volt volt in ;D
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Salamat sa post, kapatid!
Ewan ko nga ba kung bakit ayaw nila ng 1 set. Ako nga, pag bumili ako ng speakers, gusto ko nakikita ko na yung buong 5-piece set. Hindi puwede yung kesyo out of stock daw ang surrounds, bilhin ko na ngayon yung available, balikan ko na lang yung surrounds.
Worried kasi ako baka matagalan na walang stock, baka mag settle ako sa speakers from a different brand or series. Kaya pag hindi maipakita ng seller yung buong set, hindi ko bibilhin.
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Salamat sa post, kapatid!
Ewan ko nga ba kung bakit ayaw nila ng 1 set. Ako nga, pag bumili ako ng speakers, gusto ko nakikita ko na yung buong 5-piece set. Hindi puwede yung kesyo out of stock daw ang surrounds, bilhin ko na ngayon yung available, balikan ko na lang yung surrounds.
Worried kasi ako baka matagalan na walang stock, baka mag settle ako sa speakers from a different brand or series. Kaya pag hindi maipakita ng seller yung buong set, hindi ko bibilhin.
dead set na ba sa wharfe 10 series?
why dont you try AVSHOP bro. dalhin mo receiver mo dun, wanto sawa sa testing ng speakers. :)
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can the new yamaha rxv 473 easily drive the wharfedale diamond 10s (10.5, 10cs, 10dfs, gx sub)?
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dead set na ba sa wharfe 10 series?
why dont you try AVSHOP bro. dalhin mo receiver mo dun, wanto sawa sa testing ng speakers. :)
Ang hirap magbitbit ng recevier sir... :(
Ok lang ang blind buy (deaf buy? :D ), low priced lang naman. After all, pag-uwi ko, iba rin ang sound niyan kasi magkaiba ang acoustics ng HT room ko at store niya.
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^ wag ka magalala atty. the diamond 10's won't disappoint you naman, lalo na you are coming from the 9 series. I dont own wharfs anymore (except sub) but for the amount of money that you will spend for the set its VALUE for money. without cutting corners in performance.
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^ wag ka magalala atty. the diamond 10's won't disappoint you naman, lalo na you are coming from the 9 series. I dont own wharfs anymore (except sub) but for the amount of money that you will spend for the set its VALUE for money. without cutting corners in performance.
I'll vouch for the Wharfe Diamond 10 and Yammy combo. It's my current setup and I'm really satisfied. Still breaking them in (10.2) but can already say that they sound good at this point. If it's true that they'll just get even better as i break them in, ok an ok na ko.
Still -- final choice is up to you and how you find the sound. Sabi nga nila -- the satisfaction is still relative to the listener.
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Thanks for the input sir, for my peace of mind.
Naka order na ako kay Nino of Spectra Park Square 1 Makati: 10.7, 10.CS and 10.SR.
P22.5K; 5.4K; 4.05K; for a total of P31,950. Cheapest set I could find.
I thought the 10.7 had an 8 inch woofer (like the 9.6), so I was thinking that I needed a 10 CM center (6.5 inch woofs) para mas malapit ang diameter ng center woofers sa front woofers. Pero 6.5 inch lang pala ang 10.7 woofers, so OK na sa akin ang 10 CS center (5 inch woofs).
They gave me a demo of a display set of the 10.7, 10 CS and 10 SR. Unfortunately, they don't carry Yammy receivers anymore, so they connected the set to a NAD receiver + Infinity 12 inch sub. Bass is great, but mids and highs lack the force that I'm used to.
Akala ko pag maganda ang bass mo, OK ka na sa action scenes, pero pag nabawasan pala ang atake ng mids, nababawasan din ang excitement ng action scenes. Hindi ako masyadong naaliw sa action movie demo niya, e.... ??? So a balanced sound reproduction for the full spectrum is that important.
But I'm not worried, since Nino assured me that if the set is connected to my Yammy receiver, the brightness of the Yammy amp would cause the Diamond 10s to sound very similar to my old Diamond 9s, except that the 10s will have slightly greater detail in the mids and highs while still maintaining the warm characteristic of Wharfes.
Maybe the new metal diffusers on the midranges and tweeters have something to do with it.
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Congrats and happy setup then! I'm also thinking of either 10.6 or 10.7 for my audio setup sa living room -- later on. That's why i tried to get the 9.6 from you in the other thread :). Let me know how the 10.7 performs in an audio/music 2.0 setup. I'm very interested!
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Congrats and happy setup then! I'm also thinking of either 10.6 or 10.7 for my audio setup sa living room -- later on. That's why i tried to get the 9.6 from you in the other thread :) . Let me know how the 10.7 performs in an audio/music 2.0 setup. I'm very interested!
9.5 lang yon sir. I didn't get the 9.6 then, kasi I was thinking I would need the 9.CM to match the 9.6, but the 9.CM seems just too big for my rack. Kasya naman, kasi adjustable ang shelf ko, pero alangan ang proportions, not so pleasing aesthetics.
Baka madeliver sa Spectra by tomorrow or Wednesday, pick-up ko by Friday.
Balitaan kita sir.
I'm already thinking of topics to cover in my review. Around 2009 pa kasi ang series na ito, so para sa super late review ko, kailangan kong mag-isip ng topics na hindi pa na-discuss, para naman hindi kayo mabugnot... ;)
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9.5 lang yon sir. I didn't get the 9.6 then, kasi I was thinking I would need the 9.CM to match the 9.6, but the 9.CM seems just too big for my rack. Kasya naman, kasi adjustable ang shelf ko, pero alangan ang proportions, not so pleasing aesthetics.
Baka madeliver sa Spectra by tomorrow or Wednesday, pick-up ko by Friday.
Balitaan kita sir.
I'm already thinking of topics to cover in my review. Around 2009 pa kasi ang series na ito, so para sa super late review ko, kailangan kong mag-isip ng topics na hindi pa na-discuss, para naman hindi kayo mabugnot... ;)
maibookmark nga po ito:) looking forward on your review atty:)
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Hihi, no such thing with tubes sir. With an avr i did and i was able to tweak to my liking. :)
it's possible for stereo listening, kung PC ang source mo. >:D
9.5 lang yon sir. I didn't get the 9.6 then, kasi I was thinking I would need the 9.CM to match the 9.6, but the 9.CM seems just too big for my rack. Kasya naman, kasi adjustable ang shelf ko, pero alangan ang proportions, not so pleasing aesthetics.
Baka madeliver sa Spectra by tomorrow or Wednesday, pick-up ko by Friday.
Balitaan kita sir.
I'm already thinking of topics to cover in my review. Around 2009 pa kasi ang series na ito, so para sa super late review ko, kailangan kong mag-isip ng topics na hindi pa na-discuss, para naman hindi kayo mabugnot... ;)
Advance congratulations sir!!! I'm sure there's i big difference coming from the 9 series. And yes,the 10s have better details for me. Hindi siya kasing laid back ng 9 series. Try comparing the 9s and the 10s sa receiver mo without EQs, mashalata ang difference. Baka nga sa T/A ka na lang mag adjust manually. ;D
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@barrister
magkano po kuha nyo sa speakers? and do you have a contact number (kung maari cellphone) nang Spectra? meron rin ba silang account dito? thanks!
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Prices, 10.7, 10.CS and 10.SR --- P22.5K; 5.4K; 4.05K; for a total of P31,950.
Merong thread, pero hindi na yata nagpo-post ang Spectra: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,27124.330.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,27124.330.html)
Phone call na lang sir, mas mabilis pa.
Phone: 818 5493 (Park Square 1, Makati). Sorry sir, wala akong alam na cell.
Advance congratulations sir!!! I'm sure there's i big difference coming from the 9 series. And yes,the 10s have better details for me. Hindi siya kasing laid back ng 9 series. Try comparing the 9s and the 10s sa receiver mo without EQs, mashalata ang difference. Baka nga sa T/A ka na lang mag adjust manually. ;D
Ninong! Thanks for the info.
Ikaw pala dapat ang tinanong ko sir, hindi ko kasi alam na very familiar ka pala sa Diamond 9 vs. 10!
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Prices, 10.7, 10.CS and 10.SR --- P22.5K; 5.4K; 4.05K; for a total of P31,950.
Merong thread, pero hindi na yata nagpo-post ang Spectra: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,27124.330.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,27124.330.html)
Phone call na lang sir, mas mabilis pa.
Phone: 818 5493 (Park Square 1, Makati). Sorry sir, wala akong alam na cell.
Ninong! Thanks for the info.
Ikaw pala dapat ang tinanong ko sir, hindi ko kasi alam na very familiar ka pala sa Diamond 9 vs. 10!
get the 10CM
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Mas tama nga ang CM with 10.7, pareho kasing 6.5" woofers + midrange driver.
Matagal ko ring inisip yan sir, pero the CM is just too big. Ang preferred placement ko kasi ay below the TV, on a shelf inside the AV rack. Adjustable ang shelf ko, pero magiging alangan ang porma sa proportions.
For those who want a 10.7 and have no problem with the center's size, tama si sir raider --- CM ang the best na ka-partner niyan.
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I’ve already set up my Wharfedale Diamond 10.7, 10 CS and 10.SR. So here are my impressions:
I. Aesthetics
The Diamond 10 is a good-looking series, no doubt about it. The Diamond 10 cabinet is curved like the Diamond 9s, but the 10s have a composite front baffle in piano black finish that looks pretty sleek. The gold-plated binding posts and bridge connectors of the 9 series were also retained on the 10s. But the most eye-catching aesthetic feature is the aluminum speaker flanges that are as shiny as polished chrome. The contrast between the piano black front baffle and the shiny silver flanges looks striking.
The grille frame looks like it’s made of wood, unlike the flimsy plastic grille frame of the 9s. The problem with the grilles on the 10s is that the pegs are not placed on the outer edges and corners of the frame, but on the inner portions where they’re supposed to attach to the hexagonal holes of the Allen screw heads on the speaker flanges. The idea behind the peg placement is to make a front baffle that has no noticeable peg holes when the grilles are off.
As a result, the pegs are now just little stubs that need rubber covers to hold the pegs inside the Allen screw head holes. Upon inspection at the retailer, my sealed-box 10.7 pair had 5 missing rubber peg covers, believe it or not. Without the rubber covers, the peg will not snap onto the Allen screw head hole, so the retailer took 5 rubber covers from the display models and attached them to my set. When I got home, I tested the grilles and found that every time the grilles are removed, those 5 surplus rubber covers detach from the pegs and remain stuck inside the Allen screw head holes. So I had to glue the rubbers onto the pegs myself.
The 10.7’s grilles are fine now, but it’s annoying to have to go through all that trouble just because the designers wanted a silly “invisible” peg-hole look. As a side note, my 10 CS and 10.SRs have no problems with the grille pegs and rubbers, maybe because the grille frames on those two models are much shorter, making them less problem-prone.
It looks like the Diamond 10s are designed to be used with grilles off. So if you like the no-grilles look, then this is a handsome set that looks better without grilles. But if, like me, you prefer to have the grilles on, then you’ll notice that this series was not designed with your preference in mind.
II. Specs
The Diamond 10s have black woven Kevlar woofers and black soft dome mids and tweeters. The 2-inch mids and 1-inch tweets have a metal dome diffuser that make the mids and tweets seem bigger than they really are.
The Diamond 10.SR is a small monopole surround speaker with a 4-inch bass/mid driver and a 1-inch tweeter, designed for wall-mounting. Unlike the front-ported Diamond 9.SR, the 10.SR is now rear-ported. Sensitivity is 88 dB, with a frequency range of 70 Hz to 24 kHz. This is a two-way, two-speaker design with crossover at 2.2 kHz.
The Diamond 10 CS is the medium-sized center speaker of the line, with two 5-inch bass/mid drivers and one 1-inch tweeter. It’s rear-ported, like the 9 CS. Sensitivity is 89 dB, with a frequency range of 70 Hz to 24 kHz. This is a two-way, three-speaker design with crossover at 2.8 kHz.
The Diamond 10.7 is the flagship of the mid-end Diamond 10 series. It’s rear-ported, with two 6.5-inch bass drivers, one 2-inch mid driver, and one 1-inch tweeter. Sensitivity is 90 dB, with a frequency range of 30 Hz to 24 kHz. For sure, the extra sensitivity is provided by the 2-inch midrange driver. This is a three-way, four-speaker design with crossovers at 150 Hz, 850 Hz, and 4.5 kHz.
Note that the 10.7 is is not a 4-way speaker, even if it has 3 crossover points that are commonly assumed to automatically mean that the frequency range is divided into 4 ways. This is in fact a 3-way speaker, since the Wharfedale website clearly says so.
But strictly speaking, this is really a 3.5-way speaker, with frequency ranges divided as follows:
1) 4.5 kHz to 24 kHz = Tweeter
2) 850 Hz to 4.5 kHz. = Midrange
3) 30 Hz to 850 Hz = Bass
3.5) 30 Hz to 150 Hz = Low Bass
The main bass driver has a sealed enclosure, while the low bass driver has a ported enclosure. So the two speakers should sound very different even if they are both 6.5 inchers. The main bass driver covers 850 Hz and below. But from 150 Hz down, both the main bass driver and the low bass driver will run simultaneously in parallel, with the low bass driver merely providing the function of "BSC" ("Baffle Step Compensation").
So the low bass driver only helps the main bass driver by providing reinforcement for the 150 Hz-and-below range. The low bass does not have a frequency range dedicated to it; hence, it’s referred to as the “.5” in the 3.5-way system of this design.
III. Sound
I once had a big 3-way speaker system, but I felt the midrange was overpowering the bass. After that, I tried a 2-way system, liked it better, and never looked back.
I’ve long preferred a two-way system because it gives me the clear mid and stronger bass that I like. Due to the simpler design, it’s easier to build a good 2-way than a good 3-way. So if both types are equally well-made, chances are that the 2-way will sound better because speaker integration will be easier to achieve. That’s why high-end professional near-field monitors are 2-way systems, because the 2-way is the configuration that will give the most accurate sound.
But the environment for near-field monitors has one characteristic not found on the HT environment --- the near-field placement of about 2 to 3 feet from the listener. It's not going to be as easy to provide the same accuracy when the listener is positioned about 10 feet away from the speaker. That’s why I previously had a Diamond 9.5, a 2.5-way floorstander. With the 9.5, I had the 2-way that I preferred, plus the .5-way provided by the low bass to fill the 10-foot listening distance better.
But this time, I wanted to try the 3.5-way Diamond 10.7 and see if the new low-cost 3-ways have improved. I was a bit skeptical, since a 2-way system designer has only one crossover to dial in right, but a 3-way system designer would have to get two crossovers right, making it more likely that the 3-way will have more integration and transition problems.
But hey, designers have the benefit of computer software these days to help them design their speakers, so why not give those 3-ways a try and find out for myself if the supposedly greater clarity and detail on the 10.7 they’re talking about is going to work for me.
My receiver is Yamaha 767, a 2010 mid-end model that has PEQ (Parametric Equalization) in its YPAO feature. The receiver was YPAO-calibrated while partnered with my previous Diamond 9s, and I connected my new 10 set without re-calibrating, to find out what differences I would observe.
Using my old Diamond 9 YPAO settings on my new Diamond 10s, I noticed that the midrange changed from full and aggressive to thin and mild. The difference was slight, and will only be noticeable to someone who’s had the 9s for a long time, which in my case was 6+ years. The bass also weakened very slightly. But the bass reduction was so slight that I had to listen very closely to notice anything. Tweeters: still good, typical of soft-dome types; sound is the same as the old 9.5s.
Now, on to YPAO calibration. Running the Diamond 10s with their own YPAO settings, the midrange is much better --- clearer, fuller and more forward, plus much more natural. So it seems that the auto calibration PEQ really does work. As for the bass, I can hardly notice any difference at all, not even after a long listening session. Maybe it’s the subwoofer that’s making it nearly impossible to notice the difference. I’m going to have to listen to 2-channel CD on pure direct mode (no sub, no PEQ, no bass management, no processing) later and observe. Highs are also pretty much the same, still has good detail without sibilance.
Compared with my old 9.5, the new 10.7 clearly sounds different, but I’m not prepared to say that the 10.7 is definitely better. What I noticed about the 9.5 is that midrange was louder and more forward than the midrange on the 10.7. Not in terms of SPL at the same volume level on the receiver, but in terms of forwardness in relation to the lower and higher frequencies.
It’s going to be a matter of preference. Someone who prefers the mid on the 9.5 would say that the 9.5s have more aggressive mids. But someone who prefers the mids on the 10.7 would say that the 10.7s have more controlled and balanced mids. As for me, I haven’t quite decided yet.
Testing 2.0 music CD tracks on the Yammy’s pure direct mode, the singer’s vocals on the 10.7s sounded very good --- clean, clear, detailed, airy and not so forward-sounding. Well, vocals on pure direct also sounded clean, clear, detailed and airy on the 9.5s too, but more forward and aggressive.
So I don’t agree that detail and clarity are better on the 10.7 vs. the 9.5, because to my ears, detail and clarity sound the same on both speakers. The only difference I hear is a less forward-sounding mid on the 10.7s. This is surprising to me, since I was expecting the 10.7’s dedicated midrange driver to produce more in-your-face vocals, yet I’m getting the opposite.
The bass is tight and has a huge sound, the kind you can expect from a floorstander of this size. I was expecting the bass on this 10.7 to be slightly weaker, but I still can't detect any bass difference between the 10.7 and the 9.5. Maybe because I'm just basing my comparison on what I remember from the 9.5s, without the benefit of an actual side-by-side comparo. As for the highs --- still zero difference, just the same as my old 9.5s.
300 Hz to 3 khz is the usual frequency range considered to be “midrange.” On this range, the Diamond 10.7 has only one crossover point (850 Hz) which was probably a good design choice. Looks like they intentionally raised tweeter crossover to a high 4.5 kHz, to avoid having two crossover points in the critical 300 Hz to 3 kHz range.
I don't hear any problems as regards crossover design choices on this Diamond 10.7. That’s expected, since Wharfedale is the second-oldest existing speaker company in the world, and a company as venerable as that shouldn’t be having problems on something as basic as crossover point choices.
The way I see it, if auto-calibration were so great, both setups should have sounded so similar to each other that they would have been indistinguishable. Yet I’m hearing differences even if both setups were auto-calibrated with parametric equalization.
This only shows that auto-calibration has its limitations, and should not be expected to render receiver-speaker matching issues irrelevant. Yes, auto calibration is a very useful tool, but it’s still not a magic pill.
IV. Conclusion
To the Wharfedale fans who presently have the Diamond 9s, don’t worry about losing the Wharfedale sonic signature if you upgrade to the Diamond 10s, because the warm characteristic is still there.
Midrange quality improvement --- that’s the sound characteristic the Diamond 10s emphasized in this series. But for me, this is just a change, not necessarily an improvement.
If you already have a 2.5-way Diamond 9, an upgrade to a 3-way or 3.5-way Diamond 10 will not give you a midrange that is louder and more forward, or even clearer and more detailed, although it will give you a midrange that is more relaxed, balanced and controlled.
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Sir -- with your experience on Wharfe's can you also offer advise on my intention to pair my new Wharfe Diamond 10's with a Pioneer receiver? Most of what i've seen here think Yammy's and Wharfe's are a great combo. What about Pioneer and Wharfe's?
Advice is most welcome? (looking at model VSX 921-K).
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Sir -- with your experience on Wharfe's can you also offer advise on my intention to pair my new Wharfe Diamond 10's with a Pioneer receiver? Most of what i've seen here think Yammy's and Wharfe's are a great combo. What about Pioneer and Wharfe's?
Advice is most welcome? (looking at model VSX 921-K).
Brader Jelo, I think may wharfedale sa Megamall (Listening Room)... And they have lots of Pioneer AVRs there.
Pakinggan mo dun brader ;)
Before when I was able to audition a Pioneer AVR, for me they have almost the same character with Yamaha AVR :)
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Bro Louie -- i will definitely do that. Sarap mag-audition eh! Walang kasawa-sawa.
Pero yun nga balita ko. Pioneers and Wharfe's maganda din daw na combo. So wanted to know kung meron ng naka-try dito sa PDVD. Kasi yung present ko na setup na lumang yammy and wharfe panalo na e. Kaso gusto ko kunin yung Pioneer ni utol (timi) para i can setup na talaga for 7.1. Hehehe.
Salamat sa advice sis!
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Sir -- with your experience on Wharfe's can you also offer advise on my intention to pair my new Wharfe Diamond 10's with a Pioneer receiver? Most of what i've seen here think Yammy's and Wharfe's are a great combo. What about Pioneer and Wharfe's?
Advice is most welcome? (looking at model VSX 921-K).
get elite model kung kaya ng budget
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Kay timi ko kukunin! Nakulam na naman sya at magpapalit ng receiver for HT!
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Sir -- with your experience on Wharfe's can you also offer advise on my intention to pair my new Wharfe Diamond 10's with a Pioneer receiver? Most of what i've seen here think Yammy's and Wharfe's are a great combo. What about Pioneer and Wharfe's?
Advice is most welcome? (looking at model VSX 921-K).
Sorry sir, wala rin akong experience sa Pio receiver + Wharfe speakers.
Pero nagtatanong-tanong din ako sa members natin, and the consensus is that yes, Wharfe + Pio will work well.
Wharfes work well with bright amps. Like Yammy receivers, Pios are also bright, so Wharfes will also work well with Pios.
I used to have a Pio receiver, pero matagal na, around 2001. Ganon din ang observation ko, bright-sounding din ang Pio.
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Has anybody tried the 10.4?
Somebody who's dead-set on buying a Pio receiver is asking for suggestions, re: matching slim speakers. I told him to try Diamond 10.4 + 10CC.
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because of stereophile's very positive review at the diamond 10.1, i got myself a pair..
Comparisons I compared the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 ($350/pair) with Paradigm's Atom v5 ($250/pair) and Epos's ELS3 ($350/pair when last offered, footnote 1).
Although the well-balanced Paradigm Atom v5 had a similarly gorgeous midrange, it resolved significantly less detail than the Diamond 10.1. The Atom's midbass was a bit richer, and not quite as clean or as extended as the Diamond's, and its high frequencies seemed less extended and somewhat less clear.
The Epos ELS3 resolved as much detail as the Diamond 10.1, but while its highs were as extended as the Wharfedale's, the latter's upper register sounded more delicate and refined. The Epos's bass was as extended as the Wharfedale's, and just a touch cleaner. As for high-level dynamics, the Epos wasn't quite as good as the Wharfedale, but was better than the Paradigm.
http://www.stereophile.com/content/entry-level-4
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Thanks for the Sterophile magazine heads-up. I used to avoid that magazine, because I was under the impression that they were biased snobs. Maybe they've changed their ways.
But it looks like your link points to a different but related article. The excerpt you posted looks interesting, but the linked article by Stephen Mejias is different, and that author has a writing style that I don't like.
This is the correct link to your posted excerpt : http://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-diamond-101-loudspeaker (http://www.stereophile.com/content/wharfedale-diamond-101-loudspeaker)
The author is Robert J. Reina. I enjoyed the read. Much better write-up.
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Passed by Spectra at their new store in glorietta and saw a marantz pm5004, 3 open booths for listening and a pair of diamond 10.1s. I've been saving for speakers to match my old marantz integrated amp and wasn't considering the 10.1 but thought I have nothing to lose if I try. Inviting kasi yung listening booths.
The pair was put on top of floorstanders along with other speakers. When it played I tried telling myself that the sound is coming from the 10.1s coz I realized what they mean when they say the speakers are invisible. I was expecting the amp to be cranked coz it's only 86db but it wasn't (I was saving for high sensitivity speakers for that reason). Volume was loud for my requirement and the sound quality is impressive, at least from my newbie ears.
To cut the story short I went home with the 10.1s coz of the low price but with sound quality that is sufficient for my current needs.
BTW the spectra staff was very accommodating even when I told him I have no plans of buying yet but is just curious on listening to how the 10.1 sounds with a marantz. The store is a big improvement from the park square branch hindi nakakahiyang pumasok at mag audition coz of its open arrangement.
They also have the new 121s which I first tried but somehow I like the 10.1s. Probably coz I know that the 10.1s have good reviews while I have no idea on the 121s. Simply, I didn't find a reason to buy the 121s instead.
How does it sound? It's laid back but very clear especially on the vocals which is how I like my stereo to be. Hindi matalas ang highs. Bass is not thumping but I can get a sub if I want that. I only got a few minutes to test this morning. Hope to get more listening time this weekend.
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Ask ko lng po kung may nakarinig na ng wharf.10.5 with yammy im planning kc for the 10.5 as my fronts.newbie here,any suggestion will help me a lot to decide.BTW my yammy is rx-v373.thanks
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medyo power hungry ung wharf
86db - kindly double check
baka mhirapan si 373 but you may try
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Ask ko lng po kung may nakarinig na ng wharf.10.5 with yammy im planning kc for the 10.5 as my fronts.newbie here,any suggestion will help me a lot to decide.BTW my yammy is rx-v373.thanks
Be wary of the 10.5, the reviews are not that good, I've auditioned that before with a Denon receiver and like the 10.2(more detail) and 10.7(good lows) better than the 10.5.(it lacks the two that I mentioned). At least the 10.2's lack in punch can be easily remedied by a sub.
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Thanks for the info. Sir timi.
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bought a 10.2 at watts hi fi yesterday.i was also contemplating on a 9.3 but i was worried that that big woofer will be much harder to drive (entry level lang kasi na amp ang gagamitin ko).also saw and heard the new new wharf model but i'm not impressed
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ano po recommended integrated amps to be paired with wharf 10.2?thanks
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ano po recommended integrated amps to be paired with wharf 10.2?thanks
pioneer or Yamaha
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Be wary of the 10.5, the reviews are not that good, I've auditioned that before with a Denon receiver and like the 10.2(more detail) and 10.7(good lows) better than the 10.5.(it lacks the two that I mentioned). At least the 10.2's lack in punch can be easily remedied by a sub.
maling receiver kasi ang ginamit nila classmate ;D
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... also saw and heard the new new wharf model but i'm not impressed
Really?
Akala ko da best na Diamonds dapat yung 100 series. Paki balitaan mo naman kami sir, anong receiver ang naka konekta?
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Really?
Akala ko da best na Diamonds dapat yung 100 series. Paki balitaan mo naman kami sir, anong receiver ang naka konekta?
I have no idea what it was but decided to test the 121 ahead of the 10.1 using the same songs and levels. Both were connected to a Marantz PM 5004 and it was supposed to be a simple audition. I would have bought the 121 if it sounded way better than the 10.1 even if I have no idea what it was. With the 10.1 I was convinced and bought it even though my initial plan was to get an RTi which was way more expensive.
Suggest you drop by Spectra and not trust my newbie ears :-)
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maling receiver kasi ang ginamit nila classmate ;D
Hehe, may point ka dyan classmate. Although nung pinag heads up yung 3 yan pareparehong denon ginamit and hindi ko talaga nagustuhan si 10.5, at least patas silang lahat na maling driver ang ginamit hehehe.
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I have no idea what it was but decided to test the 121 ahead of the 10.1 using the same songs and levels. Both were connected to a Marantz PM 5004 and it was supposed to be a simple audition. I would have bought the 121 if it sounded way better than the 10.1 even if I have no idea what it was. With the 10.1 I was convinced and bought it even though my initial plan was to get an RTi which was way more expensive.
Thanks for that post!
Suggest you drop by Spectra and not trust my newbie ears :-)
I can't drop by Spectra. I just bought a Diamond 10 set, so I'm not supposed to go anywhere near an audio gear store for at least a year... :-[
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^imho atty, kahit mag audition ka pa, you won't feel bad with the diamond 10 series. Not unless may hanapin kang ibang sonic signatature na wala ang wharfs ah. The diamond 10 for me is a very good set, lalo na mas mura pa than most. Hindi lang value for money, its a steal in my opinion.
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^imho atty, kahit mag audition ka pa, you won't feel bad with the diamond 10 series. Not unless may hanapin kang ibang sonic signatature na wala ang wharfs ah. The diamond 10 for me is a very good set, lalo na mas mura pa than most. Hindi lang value for money, its a steal in my opinion.
Yamaha 767 ang receiver ko e... kailangan pa bang mag audition ng ibang speaker brand? ... O0
Seriously, I'm happy with my Diamond 10 set. Thanks to your advice, I still have in my HT room the sound combination I like.
Back in 2006, I really wanted to like: (a) a B&W set (+Onk AVR), or (b) a Paradigm set (+Denon AVR). Ganda rin for music, pero hindi ko talaga magustuhan ang sound for movies. I kept going back to the Diamond 9 set (+Yammy AVR).
Personal preference siguro talaga.
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Really?
Akala ko da best na Diamonds dapat yung 100 series. Paki balitaan mo naman kami sir, anong receiver ang naka konekta?
nakalimutan ko na sir kung anong int amp yung nakakabit.anyway 2 song each lang pinakingan ko for the 3 wharf speakers.siguro kasi di pa na break in yung 122.almost got the 9.3 kung powerful lang sana gagamitin kong amp pero yung budget ko is limited lang talaga for entry level amp baka mahirapan yung amp nabibilhin ko na i drive.pero kung rosewood yung kulay nung 9.3 malamang yung ang binili ko.
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Thanks for the reply. Kahit hindi naka break in yon sir, dinig mo na rin ang performance nun.
Malaki na nga dapat ang pyschological bias pag new and more expensive series, pero hindi ka pa rin bumilib, e di hindi nga siguro nakakabilib... :(
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Okay ba etong wharf diamond 10 series for movies?? and also is it also a good match up with entry receivers like onkyo 509 or yamaha 373/473?
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^ same question.
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^ same question.
Okay ba etong wharf diamond 10 series for movies?? and also is it also a good match up with entry receivers like onkyo 509 or yamaha 373/473?
The diamond 10 is good for both movies and music, but of course it will depend on your preference, in general po kasi wharfs are warm sounding, so if thats not your thing, pangit for you but generally ok sya sakin for ht rather than music. And also, wharfs are quite harder to drive than others, baka mabitin po kayo kung entry level avr ang gagamitin nyo.
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The diamond 10 is good for both movies and music, but of course it will depend on your preference, in general po kasi wharfs are warm sounding, so if thats not your thing, pangit for you but generally ok sya sakin more for ht rather than music. And also, wharfs are quite harder to drive than others, baka mabitin po kayo kung entry level avr ang gagamitin nyo.
how many watts do i need to drive these speakers?
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how many watts do i need to drive these speakers?
Mid level avr's should be fine. Somwhere in the 90-100 wpc @ 2 ch driven. Maayos na yan pero mas maganda kung mas busog syempre. And that will also depend on which of the diamond 10's you will get. Kung 10.7 baka pati mid level amp di na kaya.
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how about 10.5s for the yammy 373 for a small room?
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how about 10.5s for the yammy 373 for a small room?
Be wary of the 10.5, the reviews are not that good, I've auditioned that before with a Denon receiver and like the 10.2(more detail) and 10.7(good lows) better than the 10.5.(it lacks the two that I mentioned). At least the 10.2's lack in punch can be easily remedied by a sub.
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Finally had a chance to listen at past mid level with a marantz and the sound was great sa vocals with acoustic guitar and piano. Not so much sa synthesizers. It's a real bargain.
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^can you post your setup sir? and by the way ano po ba speaker stands ginamit nyo with the 10.1s?
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^can you post your setup sir? and by the way ano po ba speaker stands ginamit nyo with the 10.1s?
mine is just an ipod playing 320k files + fiio lod + cal's interconnect + marantz pm44se + 10.1s nakapatong lang sa plastic drawers
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Just drop by in the new Spectra store at 3rd floor Glorietta 3. Saw and heard the Wharfedale Jade 5, ganda tumunog nung 3-way FS. They also let me hear the Wharfedale Diamond 100 series, specifically, the Diamond 122 bookshelf speakers, also a 3-way speaker. Iba siya tumunog sa Diamond 10 series. For me, not that bright, mas malambing at hindi bitin sa bass kahit bookshelf lang. Both Jade and Diamond 100 series are must try. By the way, the prices of the Diamond 100 series is almost the same as Diamond 10 series.
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Just drop by in the new Spectra store at 3rd floor Glorietta 3. Saw and heard the Wharfedale Jade 5, ganda tumunog nung 3-way FS. They also let me hear the Wharfedale Diamond 100 series, specifically, the Diamond 122 bookshelf speakers, also a 3-way speaker. Iba siya tumunog sa Diamond 10 series. For me, not that bright, mas malambing at hindi bitin sa bass kahit bookshelf lang. Both Jade and Diamond 100 series are must try. By the way, the prices of the Diamond 100 series is almost the same as Diamond 10 series.
Uy, its nice to know that the Jade is readily available now.
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Uy, its nice to know that the Jade is readily available now.
Yes, bro timi. Maganda siya tumunog. Malayo sa diamond.
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Yes, bro timi. Maganda siya tumunog. Malayo sa diamond.
warm parin ba? as far as I know ibang level na ang Jade series nila eh, this is no longer part of their entry level series.
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warm parin ba? as far as I know ibang level na ang Jade series nila eh, this is no longer part of their entry level series.
Actually malambing siya kahit driven by a pioneer amp playing a jazz music at low volume. I guess kaya nya lahat ng music kasi may two 6.5" woofer plus a 3" mid plus a tweeter.
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Actually malambing siya kahit driven by a pioneer amp playing a jazz music at low volume. I guess kaya nya lahat ng music kasi may two 6.5" woofer plus a 3" mid plus a tweeter.
ah bagay naman kasi talaga ang pio and wharf. yun nga lang hindi parin pala sensitive no, its still at 86db and 6ohm impedence. mahirap parin idrive to its optimum potential.
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ah bagay naman kasi talaga ang pio and wharf. yun nga lang hindi parin pala sensitive no, its still at 86db and 6ohm impedence. mahirap parin idrive to its optimum potential.
yes, probably a high current power amp or even tube monos will be able to do the job. :)
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warm parin ba? as far as I know ibang level na ang Jade series nila eh, this is no longer part of their entry level series.
I liked that it has more sparkle and shimmer than the Diamond series (it's enough to make it sound brilliant when matched with certain components). It has an obvious dip in the upper midrange and presence regions though, which is something that I'm not so fond of (I like lots of attack).
Spectra has a much nicer layout in their new location, with lots of gear to choose from.
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I liked that it has more sparkle and shimmer than the Diamond series (it's enough to make it sound brilliant when matched with certain components). It has an obvious dip in the upper midrange and presence regions though, which is something that I'm not so fond of (I like lots of attack).
Spectra has a much nicer layout in their new location, with lots of gear to choose from.
Master Ivan, was it also matched with the pioneer when you listened to it? did you mean that this is more laid back?
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Master Ivan, was it also matched with the pioneer when you listened to it? did you mean that this is more laid back?
Master Timi,
I didn't listen to it attentively, but I noticed as I passed by. Yes, it was hooked up to the Pioneer AVR. Some equalization could likely fix that, but I'm sure many like that kind of sound.
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Happy new year pdvd gurus! Any idea on how much the diamond 100 series are? Thanks!
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Happy new year pdvd gurus! Any idea on how much the diamond 100 series are? Thanks!
10.1 is 7k while 121 is 7.3k at spectra if I remember correctly
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121 is part of the diamond 100 series if am not mistaken..
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Have been lurking around the site for a few days specifically on this thread.
Because of the recent discussions on the Diamond 121s and matching AVRs, I decided to try it out myself.
Right on and spot on ang mga comments niyo. The sound was bright and natural. Having used a Yammy for the past 10 years and trying out a Pioneer didn't disappoint me. Added an SW150 to the set-up and WH2 centers and surrounds. The subs will be hard for a few months but given the demo unit at Spectra, mukhang ok naman she.
Anyway, thanks a lot for all the inputs.
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Happy new year pdvd gurus! Any idea on how much the diamond 100 series are? Thanks!
I got the 121 at Spectra before the year-end at 5,760 cash. The 10.1 was 6,300 cash.
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I got the 121 at Spectra before the year-end at 5,760 cash. The 10.1 was 6,300 cash.
Really? Mas lower pala ang price. How much kaya yung other models sa lineup. Hmmmm. :-)
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hi guys..just dropped by to say thanks for suggesting this diamond 10.1..i already bought it last month after in-depth research and joining forums and reading reviews..well 3 words ang verdict ko..."wow ganda sulit"
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Really? Mas lower pala ang price. How much kaya yung other models sa lineup. Hmmmm. :-)
At spectra, SRP 6600 for the 121, 8800 for the 122. 6600 for the 101c(?), 16000 for the 155 Floorstander.
I got the 121 for myself last Dec 28. Didn't really need it but they offer 10% discount for cash purchase. It turns out the newer 100 series costs lesser than the older 10 series.
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16000 for the 155 Floorstander. ano ba katapat nito sa diamond 10 series?
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magkano po 10.5?
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nasa 15.5 ata sa sNs
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At spectra, SRP 6600 for the 121, 8800 for the 122. 6600 for the 101c(?), 16000 for the 155 Floorstander.
I got the 121 for myself last Dec 28. Didn't really need it but they offer 10% discount for cash purchase. It turns out the newer 100 series costs lesser than the older 10 series.
yes mas mura nga yung latest release ng wharfs compared sa 10 series.nagtaka rin ako nung bumili ako ng 10.2 sa watts hi fi sakto may bagong dating na 100 series.
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After a few weeks of listening I changed the ipod equalizer from flat to rock and removed the speaker covers. I sometimes play in a band and I can say na realistic ang tunog nya yet di masakit sa tenga and my old worry sa low sensitivity wala na coz I can't listen past 2 o clock coz it's already too loud. Sulit talaga ang 10.1 parang mas gumaganda tunog habang tumatagal.
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Any idea po ng diamond 10.5?ok po ba to for movies and music with the yamaha receiver?thanks
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match yan brader yammy and wharf
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mga sir ano po ang magandang fronts (any)?
meron na kasi akong 10.1 / 10CS / SW150
my plan is 10.1 as Surround and upgrade ako ng front. (or may alternative setup? 5.1 lang po plano ko)
(80% Movies / 20%Music)
TIA
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mga sir ano po ang magandang fronts (any)?
meron na kasi akong 10.1 / 10CS / SW150
my plan is 10.1 as Surround and upgrade ako ng front. (or may alternative setup? 5.1 lang po plano ko)
(80% Movies / 20%Music)
TIA
If your current system does the job, add ka na lang ng surround.
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Mura yun 121 at 122 ah... naka 6ohms pa rin ba itong 100 series? anong wattage mga gamit nyo para dito?
Musta yun soundstage at separation ng 121 at 122?
any detailed review mga master.
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If your current system does the job, add ka na lang ng surround.
tama para mura lang upgrade
10dfs will do...gandang surr for sure kesa 10.1
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ok thanks po!
i guess DFS na lang buy ko
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Eto ang Setup ko....Diamond 10.1, 10cs, 10dfs......then yammy rxv373....ano pwede nyo isuggest na sub??? kasi sobrang bitin yung bass ng 10.1....hahahaha...halos wala....Any suggestion...yung budget price..TIA.
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^kamusta naman performance nung speakers sa yammy avr? di ba bitin? i know they are a good match pero medyo mahirap kasi idrive ang wharfes eh..
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Eto ang Setup ko....Diamond 10.1, 10cs, 10dfs......then yammy rxv373....ano pwede nyo isuggest na sub??? kasi sobrang bitin yung bass ng 10.1....hahahaha...halos wala....Any suggestion...yung budget price..TIA.
2nd hand SVS :)
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^kamusta naman performance nung speakers sa yammy avr? di ba bitin? i know they are a good match pero medyo mahirap kasi idrive ang wharfes eh..
Hindi naman....since maliit lang yung space... around 15 sqm.........sounds good xa..pramis...lagi ako naeexcite mag sounds.....katulad ng nasabi ko....lack of bass kung mahilig ka sa boom boom.......pero kung hindi....napakaganda ng detail ng mid's and high's nya....
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Hindi naman....since maliit lang yung space... around 15 sqm.........sounds good xa..pramis...lagi ako naeexcite mag sounds.....katulad ng nasabi ko....lack of bass kung mahilig ka sa boom boom.......pero kung hindi....napakaganda ng detail ng mid's and high's nya....
saan mo nabili yan rin kasi plano ko eh..pa PM naman kung magkano inabot and saan..thanks!
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Sa Spectra meron 121 (7100ph) less 10% for cash, 122 (8800ph) less 10% for cash.
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meron ba silang diamond 156 or 157 na floor standing and how much a pair? saan pa pweding
makabili o tumingin ng diamond 100 series na floor standing
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Sir -- with your experience on Wharfe's can you also offer advise on my intention to pair my new Wharfe Diamond 10's with a Pioneer receiver? Most of what i've seen here think Yammy's and Wharfe's are a great combo. What about Pioneer and Wharfe's?
Advice is most welcome? (looking at model VSX 921-K).
Hi Everyone,
Just want to share. I'm fairly new to AVRs, AMPs, & quality speakers. Mostly HTIB lang ako but I recently managed to set-up a Pioneer VSX-820 with 10.7, 10.CM, & 10.1 as surround. So far I'm very satisfied with the combination. Tight bass and vocals are very much OK from a newbie's ears like mine. I also have a Pioneer A-120D for stereo listening. I'm able to drive the 10.7 separately with the AVR & AMP courtesy of a switcher from sir markcrenz. Syempre mas ok ang tunog from the AMP but I trying to source a Yamaha AMP or AVR to hear the difference of the combo. IMHO, Pio and Wharf combination is a keeper.
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hi, question lng po, alin mas ok, for avr yamaha 373 + diamond 155 or diamond 10.6?
kaya ba ni2 ang 155? thanks alot..
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Mga Sir kaya po ba ni Pioneer VSX322 si Diamond 10 HCP 5.1,
balak ko kasi ung ganong set up since medyo limited pa sa budget
Thanks
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Mga Sir kaya po ba ni Pioneer VSX322 si Diamond 10 HCP 5.1,
balak ko kasi ung ganong set up since medyo limited pa sa budget
Thanks
Kaya yan sir. Low wattage lang yung power requirement ng Diamond 10 HCP. :)
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Kaya yan sir. Low wattage lang yung power requirement ng Diamond 10 HCP. :)
Thanks sir sa confirmation, medyo kulang pa budget, upgrade na lang next year hehehe :)
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Mga Sir kaya po ba ni Pioneer VSX322 si Diamond 10 HCP 5.1,
balak ko kasi ung ganong set up since medyo limited pa sa budget
Thanks
Kaya yan sir. Low wattage lang yung power requirement ng Diamond 10 HCP. :)
hi guys, maybe double check Dia 10 HCP if it's 4ohms and Pio VSX-322 is 6-16ohms...
earlier i was considering the Dia 10 HCP (w/ sub na kc ito) but then w/o asking anyone's advise, I backed out from this due to 4ohms...
anyway, I now have Pio VSX-522 paired with Dia 10.LCR. this is a 6ohms rear-ported speakerbar with each 4" LR midbass + 1" tweeter and 2 4" center midbass + 1" tweeter. initially having this 3.0 set-up, I can say it's ag good start and a bang for the buck. it could be blasted without being distorted. i liked its crisp highs, clear vocals and some bass punch. my room set-up, a 20sqm open...
next up, i'll complete this with a dia 10.SR which is also a 4-incher... then maybe a small sized sub for a bit more later. ;D
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i think yammy 373 can handle dia 10hcp. i got a pio vsx-520 which i paired w/ a 10.6, 10cm, wh-2 sorrounds and sw-150. i think the power specs of pio 520 is similar to a yammy 373. i also own yammy 357 which i paired w/ a dia 8.3.
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mga sir, comment nmn kau sa combination ko, pioneer 1121k to diamond 155 vs 10.5/10.6 alin ang mas preferred nyo thanks...will buy the speaker na next week, tia
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mga sir, comment nmn kau sa combination ko, pioneer 1121k to diamond 155 vs 10.5/10.6 alin ang mas preferred nyo thanks...will buy the speaker na next week, tia
Pio and wharf are a good combination. Either speaker would be fine, but personally i'd get the 10.6.
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mga sir, comment nmn kau sa combination ko, pioneer 1121k to diamond 155 vs 10.5/10.6 alin ang mas preferred nyo thanks...will buy the speaker na next week, tia
Buy the 10.6. I'm satisfied with mine which is driven by a pioneer 520k and paired with a 10CM. Good luck
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hmm, mas mura lng ng konti si 155 vs 10.6 pero same sila ng size.... any suggestions para sa mga nakarinig ng 155 thanks
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Brader, i have yet to hear the sound of the 155. 3 of my siblings got wharfes also, specifically, 9.1, 9.3, and 10.2. I love there sound too though I prefer floorstanders for there more profound bass.
I suggest that you audition both the 155 and the 10.6. Bring with you a cd which sound you are very familiar with. I'm sure you'll distinguish which speaker will suit better your need and taste.
By the way, are the 155's bi-wirable? If not, go for the 10.6. afaik, pio 1121 are bi-ampable. if you opt to set-up a 5.1 system, you may bi-amp your front speakers.
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yes the 155 is bi-wirable/bi-ampable which I can use for 1121, so sa spectra lng ba meron n2? thanks I bet maganda talga mapakinggan..
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yep, as of last Friday, I saw the 155 is available there... I think Spectra's pricing is very competitive.. best to buy it in cash to avail -10%
BTW, I already got my dia 10.SR from Spectra and enjoying them now =)
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Brader, i have yet to hear the sound of the 155. 3 of my siblings got wharfes also, specifically, 9.1, 9.3, and 10.2. I love there sound too though I prefer floorstanders for their more profound bass.
I suggest that you audition both the 155 and the 10.6. Bring with you a cd which sound you are very familiar with. I'm sure you'll distinguish which speaker will suit better your need and taste.
By the way, are the 155's bi-wirable? If not, go for the 10.6. afaik, pio 1121 are bi-ampable. if you opt to set-up a 5.1 system, you may bi-amp your front speakers.
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any idea how much 156? what can u say sa review na to
http://www.whathifi.com/review/wharfedale-diamond-155
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hello po mga masters,
help nyo naman ako mag decide, im planning to buy either 10.6 or 10.5 to match with my 10cm and pio vsx522... ano po recommend nyo?
thanks
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Mga sir ok lang ba na I get a Warf 10.6 then use my old warf 9.1, 9cs, DFS for back, center, and sorrounds? My Receiver is a YAMAHA.
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hi mga master....newbie lng po ko...im planning to set up my avr + speaker combo (5.1).. tnung ko lng po kung anung ok n wharfedale set up na budget friendly. approx mga 3x4 meters. thanks in advance.
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hello po mga masters,
help nyo naman ako mag decide, im planning to buy either 10.6 or 10.5 to match with my 10cm and pio vsx522... ano po recommend nyo?
thanks
up ko lang po yun query ko mga masters, bibili na kasi ako this coming weekend. thanks
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hello po mga masters,
help nyo naman ako mag decide, im planning to buy either 10.6 or 10.5 to match with my 10cm and pio vsx522... ano po recommend nyo?
thanks
I recommend 10.6.
Dahil dalawang 6.5 inch ang speakers ng center mo, get the 10.6 para dalawang 6.5 inch din ang speakers ng fronts.
Pag 10.5, isang 6.5 inch lang yon. Hindi bagay, ang laki kasi ng 10 CM mo.
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i got the 10.6 + 10cm + 9dfs combined with pio 1121 although wala akong sub, parang hinahampas na ng 10.6 ung pader! 10.6 is bi-amped and set to large..
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Hi! I have a question. I just bought an Onkyo HT S5400 HTiB and wanted to upgrade the front and center, can I use Wharefdale Diamond 10.4 and 10CS for it? The documented Watt per channel is at 130 Watts 6 Ohms and both Diamond models are at 120W 6 Ohms.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Magkano na kaya diamond 10.2? thanks
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Mga Sir ano pong maisusuggest niyo para sa 2.5mx3m na room...
AMP: Pioneer 522
Center: diamond 10CM or diamond 102C
Front: diamond 10.2 or diamond 122
Surround: diamond 10DFS
pag gumamit po ba akong ng diamond 10.5 or diamond 155 para sa front masyado ng overkill para sa room?
Yung sub to follow na lang po.
TIA!
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^sir, okay na yang setup mo =) for me, wag ka ng mag floorstander kasi maliit lang room mo.
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baka may alam kayo mabilan ng diamond 10dfs. tnx
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ma-recommend ba ang harman kardon para sa diamond 10?
sa diamond 9 thread kasi nababanggit ang hk avrs, so far panay pioneer at yamaha pa lang ang na-recommend dito.
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ma-recommend ba ang harman kardon para sa diamond 10?
sa diamond 9 thread kasi nababanggit ang hk avrs, so far panay pioneer at yamaha pa lang ang na-recommend dito.
gamit ko dati 60w/ch HK sa Diamond 9.6, kaya naman i-drive kaso laid-back tlga at medyo dark ang sound
at kailangan i-emphasize ang treble.
ngayon gamit ko na yamaha na 100w/ch at mas naging brighter and sound, kaya tingin ko same din ito sa Wharf 10.
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Gurus, question. pwede ba i compare yung bookshelf sa floorstanders? i didisregard na natin ung bass output kasi may subwoofer na ako.. kasi gusto ko lang marinig ung kumpleto. meaning yung hindi ko naririnig dati gusto ko marinig, i got a vsx523 and wharf 121 + DIY sub (double 10's).
plan ko sana etong 121 gawin kong surround and front eh, planning to buy floorstanders na 10.6/10.7/P363(infi) or B&W 685 - yan ung mga choices ko. na ccurious lang kasi ako dun sa 685 pero kung makkuha ko din yung tunog na nasa floorstanders dun nalang ako sa maliit mejo malaki kasi floorstanders. 50/50 music-movies kasi ako.
salamat sa inputs nio TIA.
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Hello to all wharfs owner..some inquir!y lang po before buying one...I have a denon pma 355uk (got it from superman) just want to know kung ok ba dito ang 9.5 or 10.4 and which is better halos pareho ang presyo..or bs+sub na lang.thanks guys..happy listening.:-) ..this is my first attempt to a stereo set up..kaya budget lang muna..:-) tnx.
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Try asking in this thread; your chances of getting a useful answer might be better:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173418.60.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,173418.60.html)
Iba-iba kasi ang opinions. Most say Denon-Wharfedale is not a good combination, kulang daw sa clarity. Yung iba naman, sabi OK daw ang Denon-Wharfedale.
Suggestion ko, try Denon with Polk Audio.
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hmmm...i would like to try it to polk din..as of now nakakabit amp sa diamond 10.1...ok lang naman tumunog, parang bitin nga lang sa bass i don't know kung tama pandinig ko, wala pa kasi ako mapagkumparahan...it's better nga to try other brand.thanks...
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hmmm...i would like to try it to polk din..as of now nakakabit amp sa diamond 10.1...ok lang naman tumunog, parang bitin nga lang sa bass i don't know kung tama pandinig ko, wala pa kasi ako mapagkumparahan...it's better nga to try other brand.thanks...
How much ba budget mo sir? And also try experimenting with your room treatments to boost the bass a bit.
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Up to 15k...sir vic at sns recommended the polk ..warm sounding daw kc denon so I should try polk @ 20k wow!..pero ok lang din daw 9.5...maybe I should audition dadalhin ko amp sa store nila:-) or I will wait at mp baka may matsambahang polk or wharf...:-)
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how bout ang wharf plus yamaha combo? match po ba?
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nabasa ko sa ibang site..they say, yamaha, onkyo, denon are warm and should be paired with bright speaker like polk..wharf is warm..so it should be warm+bright...
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up for this thread. 1 Satisfied owner of Dia 10.1 here. :)
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nakakapagtaka lang ang dia 10.1...magandang tumunog pero ang mura... ::)
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pa revive lang sir ng thread...
I have a pioneer vsx 923k and currently choosing between the 155 + 102c or 10.5 + 10CS to replace my existing front stage. Surrounds are wh-2 so I figured baka pwede pa yan.
I'm a 50/50 HT/audio guy and whenever I listen to audio I go for pop alternative and r&b. Room to power is around 24 sqm2.
I'm planning to get subs to satisfy my bass needs.
Ano yun noticeable difference between the 2 combos?
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Ask ko lang mga master ano kaya mas ok 10.2 or 9.3 for front...50/50 na movies & music..
Suggest lang po kyo mga master..
Curent set up:
Amp - AVR Sony DA3ES
Front - aaudio genesis 1st gen.when get a new front BS i move to surround
Center - Wharf 9CS after to buy front BS plan to upgrade 9CM
Sub - Performance Teknique 12inch by pilyo+amp4v2
Questions:ok lang po ba ang combination ng amp ko at speakers? ma ooverkill na ba yung front ko kung 9.3? wala yata ko nakikita dito na gumagamit ng avr na sony bakit kaya puro onkyo,denon,hk,pioneer ang user dito..
ito specs & reviews of my avr:
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Sony-STR-DA3ES-6-1-Channel-600-Watt-Receiver-/46556465
Baka meron me gusto magsell ng 9.3 diyan or 10.2 pm me..
TIA... :)
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pa revive lang sir ng thread...
I have a pioneer vsx 923k and currently choosing between the 155 + 102c or 10.5 + 10CS to replace my existing front stage. Surrounds are wh-2 so I figured baka pwede pa yan.
I'm a 50/50 HT/audio guy and whenever I listen to audio I go for pop alternative and r&b. Room to power is around 24 sqm2.
I'm planning to get subs to satisfy my bass needs.
Ano yun noticeable difference between the 2 combos?
Just got my vsx-522 paired with 155, all i can say i think i wont be needing for a subwoofer ;D
Im very happy with the upgrade comming from HTIB.
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Anyone who knows the screw size for the 10.1 mounting holes? Planning to build a stand for it.
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did you check the manual?
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did you check the manual?
It doesn't mention the bolt size. It just stated that the rear panel has a threaded insert for attaching a pair of suitable wall brackets. I'm thinking of buying several bolts and testing them but I am worried of possible thread damage to the mounting holes.
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iirc the 9.1 uses 6mm bolt. you can start with that size.
Edit: 16mm -->> 6mm, sorry
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iirc the 9.1 uses 16mm bolt. you can start with that size.
Thanks for this!
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Thanks for this!
Edit: 16mm -->> 6mm, sorry
bale pag bibili ka sabihin mo M6, ex. M6 x 20 for a 6mm dia, 20mm long bolt
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Edit: 16mm -->> 6mm, sorry
bale pag bibili ka sabihin mo M6, ex. M6 x 20 for a 6mm dia, 20mm long bolt
Thanks so alam na nila pag M6. Minsan ang liit ng label sa screws ang hirap basahin ng matandang tulad ko hehe. Medyo mahaba ang kukunin ko coz sa kahoy ko ikakabit.
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Good day mga sirs! Haha..
Curious lang po, a store here in cebu is selling the diamond 10.7 for 23k, discounted price. Kita ko sa amazon, $1299 yun doon, roughly 55k. Bakit ang mura dito sa atin?
Balak ko kasi kumuha ng pair to replace my 10.1. Receiver ko ay pioneer vsx 922, sana ok to.
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Mga gurus,
HT newbie po ako.
Need recommendations sana on which model ang good match sa yamaha RXV367.
Feeling ko hindi gaano malakas ang output nito and worried ako mahirapan sya with diamonds, tama ba?
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Good day mga sirs! Haha..
Curious lang po, a store here in cebu is selling the diamond 10.7 for 23k, discounted price. Kita ko sa amazon, $1299 yun doon, roughly 55k. Bakit ang mura dito sa atin?
Balak ko kasi kumuha ng pair to replace my 10.1. Receiver ko ay pioneer vsx 922, sana ok to.
Can I ask which store here in Cebu? Thanks!
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best place to audition Wharfs nowadays, not to mention competitive pricing?
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best place to audition Wharfs nowadays, not to mention competitive pricing?
sa spectra po sir
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sa spectra po sir
Can you shoot me a PM for their digits and location, cheers.
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Question lang po.
current setup ko is 10.1 , sw150 , 10cs
ano po magandang iupgrade to improve movie experience sa current setup ko?
1) 10.1 to 10.2?
2) 10cs to 10cm?
3) change sub?
(plan ko pala bumili ng dfs para sa surround)
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Hi,
To the wharfedale 10.1 owners, how did you mount it or install it as surround speakers, can you please share some pix as well, thanks.
Due to limited space in the room, speaker stands are out of the question for now, FYI. Thanks.
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Hi,
To the wharfedale 10.1 owners, how did you mount it or install it as surround speakers, can you please share some pix as well, thanks.
Due to limited space in the room, speaker stands are out of the question for now, FYI. Thanks.
Madaming wall mounts available sa Ace hardware. Meron nag-grip sa base ng speakers. There's also the brand carried by the same distro of polk audio.
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Madaming wall mounts available sa Ace hardware. Meron nag-grip sa base ng speakers. There's also the brand carried by the same distro of polk audio.
Thanks buddy Nelson, will check them out over at Ace.
Was looking at the the clamps being sold in GH and I find it a little bit hard to use with 10.1' considering the shapre of the 10.1, not being exactly square-ish. No problems I reckon with the 100 series since its plain square in shape.
Anyone with 10.1's who utitilized its OEM holes found at the back for bracket installation?
Finally, I am still confused if:
1. If should go with the 10 series or the 100 series
2. If I should go same BS for the front and rears or just use surrounds for the rear like DFS
Thanks
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Pwede ka pa fabricate para sakto sa wish mo. Kausapin mo si Turbokiller. May mga welding enthusiast din sa cab1net group ni timber.
Noong nag DIY ako ng driving sim, bumili ako steel sa Tandang Sora st. Near Mindanao Ave. At the other end naman may welding shop. To go this route, ikaw dapat tututok or mag finish. Otherwise pangit tignan.
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I'm also interested on how to utilize the mounting holes of the 10.1. Yung nakita ko sa ace hindi kaya ang weight ng 10.1.
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anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.
(http://consumer.audiosure.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Diamond-HCP.jpg)
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anyone who owns this Wharfedale Diamond HCP? any reviews on these speakers? mura na kasi sya for a set eh..good for starters na ba? planning to pair it with a yamaha avr.
(http://consumer.audiosure.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Diamond-HCP.jpg)
I've read reviews here at PDVD saying that Wharfes pair well with Yammys. Since I had in mind these speakers and/or AAudio, I got a brand new Yammy few weeks back for my new condo.
Just reading more reviews now to decide which speakers to get.
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yes that's what i also read here..but i am more concerned with the performance of those speakers if they are great for their price..coz it's already a cheap set.
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Thanks buddy Nelson, will check them out over at Ace.
Was looking at the the clamps being sold in GH and I find it a little bit hard to use with 10.1' considering the shapre of the 10.1, not being exactly square-ish. No problems I reckon with the 100 series since its plain square in shape.
Anyone with 10.1's who utitilized its OEM holes found at the back for bracket installation?
Up ko lang po yung question ni egzbuen.
same scenario kami.
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saan pwede magparepair ng wharfedale 10.1 na may popping sound? parang may pumuputok kasi e =)
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http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,41169.0.html
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Just bought the diamond 10.3 and the diamond 10.CS
Love listening these speakers.
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Any suggestions on which would better match my diamond 10.1 fronts as a center?
Diamond 9.CS or Diamond 101C
Could no longer find any available Diamond 10.CS sadly :(
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sir, i read that its the wharfedale 200 series center which has similar sound signature with the wharfedale 10 series so it might be a good fit.
others also tell that wharfedale diamond 220 is the upgrade of the wharfe 10.2, not the one from the wharfe 100 series.
but i have not tried it side by side coz wharfe 10 series are no longer in circulation.