Author Topic: HP dm1z series (Read 4369 times)

cHess · « **on:** Feb 08, 2011 at 12:22 PM »

Anybody have already this HP Pavilion dm1z (with AMD Fusion) ?
Is this already available in the Philippines?

Read some review and it seems quite good for a mobile HTPC.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/hp-pavilion-dm1z-with-amd-fusion-review/

FrancisD · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 01, 2011 at 10:23 AM »

I have asked HP dealers and they have not been informed. As far as they know, they are given a lead time of three months. So I guess we can safely say we won't get this cheaper than VAIO alternative for the next three or more months!

Been wanting to get one of these in addition to the Asrock Brazos motherboard (turns out the asrock amd e-350 is expensive at almost Php 6,000!).

gunslinger · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 01, 2011 at 11:47 AM »

Been scouting for this one too pero sadly hindi pa siya available locally. And the best counterpart is still the Sony Vaio YB model which is a little expensive for a Netbook. Sana magkaroon pa ng ibang offerings for a Netbook with the same specs.

FrancisD · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 02, 2011 at 12:15 AM »

For an amd e-350 alternative, check out emachines. I think thay have one for about Php 19,000 but then again its e-machines - plastic construction unlike the HP with a more business like premium look

gunslinger · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 09, 2011 at 05:41 AM »

the dm1z is now for sale in TPC : http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=8986990
Unfortunately mas mahal pa siya sa VAIO.

FrancisD · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 16, 2011 at 09:16 PM »

At that Dmz1 price, Vaio is looking good - hehehe.

cHess · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 18, 2011 at 07:31 AM »

correct ka dyan bro.

FrancisD · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 23, 2011 at 10:01 PM »

HP DM1 now available at PC Express.

Price is only Php 23,000!

gunslinger · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 24, 2011 at 05:19 AM »

Quote from: FrancisD on Mar 23, 2011 at 10:01 PM

HP DM1 now available at PC Express.

Price is only Php 23,000!

Saw this one too last night in Trinoma. We were supposed to get the Vaio na but wifey now is having 2nd thoughts after seeing it. How different is this with the DM1Z series in the US? Meron na ba reported issues with this one?

Btw, Automatic Center in Trinoma was offering us a great deal with this one, comes with thumb drive and optical mouse even if we get it at 0% interest for 6 months. 21.5K if bought in cash + freebies or get in SRP cash and you get a brand new printer plus the freebies.

cHess · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 24, 2011 at 07:03 AM »

Kindly check the specs baka strip off unit kasi pagdating dito sa pinas may mga tinatanggal na specs.

FrancisD · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 26, 2011 at 09:30 PM »

There are only three ways of stripping this, the memory, battery and the HD capacity. The standard memory is 2GB. There is an option for 4GB, for this thing this could be too much even if the video card uses of about 300+ MB.

Capacity I have seen is 320 GB - for a laptop big enough as you can use USB HD. Also battery is 6 cell, the standard.

In all - a great buy compared to the Sony Vaio YB. My only gripe here is the LCD screen quality. For a netbook, its good, compared to Laptops its average to below average. Compared to Mac Pro, its ugly (well almost any laptop would have uglier screen compared to the Mac) - just plug this into your HDTV instead

PS - it comes with Win 7 Basic!

gunslinger · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 02, 2011 at 05:27 AM »

We got the HPDM1 a couple of days ago and I tried to hook it up with my 42PV80 last night. I was disappointed on how the picture looked on the big screen. It's not as sharp as expected and the whole desktop screen would not fit into the TV. Even my XDE500 is better in terms of PQ. Are there settings I need to tweak?

The netbook was connected to my HKAVR160 rather than directly to the TV via HDMI. And even the audio is not detected properly. The AVR display doesn't show if its Dolby or DTS. I used VLC to play my HD files.

I'm sure I am missing something that needs doing because PQ/AQ was just too disappointing. Any help in what to install or check would be appreciated.

low_arq · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 10, 2011 at 06:21 PM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Apr 02, 2011 at 05:27 AM

We got the HPDM1 a couple of days ago and I tried to hook it up with my 42PV80 last night. I was disappointed on how the picture looked on the big screen. It's not as sharp as expected and the whole desktop screen would not fit into the TV. Even my XDE500 is better in terms of PQ. Are there settings I need to tweak?

The netbook was connected to my HKAVR160 rather than directly to the TV via HDMI. And even the audio is not detected properly. The AVR display doesn't show if its Dolby or DTS. I used VLC to play my HD files.

I'm sure I am missing something that needs doing because PQ/AQ was just too disappointing. Any help in what to install or check would be appreciated.

]Kuyang,

Ano balita? Napagana mo na ba ng maganda sa 42PV80 mo?

Stagea · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 10, 2011 at 06:53 PM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Apr 02, 2011 at 05:27 AM

We got the HPDM1 a couple of days ago and I tried to hook it up with my 42PV80 last night. I was disappointed on how the picture looked on the big screen. It's not as sharp as expected and the whole desktop screen would not fit into the TV. Even my XDE500 is better in terms of PQ. Are there settings I need to tweak?

The netbook was connected to my HKAVR160 rather than directly to the TV via HDMI. And even the audio is not detected properly. The AVR display doesn't show if its Dolby or DTS. I used VLC to play my HD files.

I'm sure I am missing something that needs doing because PQ/AQ was just too disappointing. Any help in what to install or check would be appreciated.

What resolution are you running? The 42PV80 has a 1024 x 768 rectangular pixel panel. 1366 x 768 might be the best resolution to use to keep the proper image aspect ratio while maintaining some sharpness (but you'd still have lost pixel information). On the other hand, AVRs typically do not support non-standard resolutions via HDMI. That means sticking to either 1080p or 720p for most people.

Also, have you adjusted the TV's settings? There are usually settings in the menu that help you stretch the image to fit the screen properly.

gunslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 12, 2011 at 07:01 AM »

I was able to finally fix it. There was an underscan/overscan feature of the TV that needed turning off. PQ looks great now and the DTS/Dolby Digital displays on my AVR even though I'm only using VLC Media player. Happy camper here.

low_arq · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 12, 2011 at 09:07 PM »

Mga Sir,

Iba ba yung HP dm1z at HP dm1 (without the "z"). Buying na talaga sana ako kanina kaso hindi ako mabigyan ng salesman (octagon sm bacoor) ng freebie kahit anong insist ko kaya tamang hintay na lang muna ako baka hindi pa right time hehe.

gunslinger · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 13, 2011 at 06:45 AM »

The DM1 without the "z" is the local version. Ang pinagkaiba lang sa Z version is the OS and the HD memory capacity at yung US ata meron 4GB and 2GB version. Sa atin 2GB lang. Pero processor and GPU is the same.

FrancisD · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM »

For people who can wait - the real fusion processors are now with the OEMs. These are low power phenom2 cores with the Radeon iGPU thats even better than the amd e-350. Usually this takes 3-4 months before the new laptops are distributed to outlets. And another 2-3 months before it gets here.

So for those who can wait, what does this mean? Multitask apps, no dropped frames even with some post processing, and light gaming possibilities! Imagine a much cheaper low power Intel core I3 with good integrated graphics. Analysts say that with this version, you can finally do some gaming with iGPUs and this is reallt what fusion is meant to be...

Cheers

gunslinger · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 14, 2011 at 08:02 AM »

Quote from: FrancisD on Apr 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM

For people who can wait - the real fusion processors are now with the OEMs. These are low power phenom2 cores with the Radeon iGPU thats even better than the amd e-350. Usually this takes 3-4 months before the new laptops are distributed to outlets. And another 2-3 months before it gets here.

So for those who can wait, what does this mean? Multitask apps, no dropped frames even with some post processing, and light gaming possibilities! Imagine a much cheaper low power Intel core I3 with good integrated graphics. Analysts say that with this version, you can finally do some gaming with iGPUs and this is reallt what fusion is meant to be...

Cheers

You are making me feel sad Francis.

Just the same, I might get the PS3 for gaming anyway. Just taking a breather from expenses and maybe I will take the plunge into getting a new console.

low_arq · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM »

Quote from: FrancisD on Apr 14, 2011 at 12:15 AM

For people who can wait - the real fusion processors are now with the OEMs. These are low power phenom2 cores with the Radeon iGPU thats even better than the amd e-350. Usually this takes 3-4 months before the new laptops are distributed to outlets. And another 2-3 months before it gets here.

So for those who can wait, what does this mean? Multitask apps, no dropped frames even with some post processing, and light gaming possibilities! Imagine a much cheaper low power Intel core I3 with good integrated graphics. Analysts say that with this version, you can finally do some gaming with iGPUs and this is reallt what fusion is meant to be...

Cheers

sir,

kmusta naman po kaya ang presyo nito, pareho din po kaya sa amd e-350 powered unit like hp dm1? If yes wait n lng muna ako, kung malaki price difference, plunge na ako sa hp dm1 hehe

FrancisD · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 17, 2011 at 11:52 PM »

Sir:

There is a new processor enhancement and revision every six months. Even if we wait for the Llano fusion processors, the next generation in 6 months will be much better.

The Holy Grail for Laptops is doing gaming. If gaming is not an issue, nothing wrong in getting the amd e-350 now. For those who like gaming - the best is still getting console games such as the PS3. The PC is more of a niche market now for gaming due to piracy (very few PC titles are making money now).

I myself got an atom based netbook last year primarily for web surfing and skype. Even with the amd e-350 now, it doesnt change the usability of the crappy netbook I got. For my use, the netbook is much better than an Ipad. I think the third generation of the fusion chip is the one to get for light gaming. The generation after the replacement of the amd e-350 arrives.

Stagea · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 18, 2011 at 02:01 AM »

Quote from: FrancisD on Apr 17, 2011 at 11:52 PM

Sir:

There is a new processor enhancement and revision every six months. Even if we wait for the Llano fusion processors, the next generation in 6 months will be much better.

The Holy Grail for Laptops is doing gaming. If gaming is not an issue, nothing wrong in getting the amd e-350 now. For those who like gaming - the best is still getting console games such as the PS3. The PC is more of a niche market now for gaming due to piracy (very few PC titles are making money now).

I myself got an atom based netbook last year primarily for web surfing and skype. Even with the amd e-350 now, it doesnt change the usability of the crappy netbook I got. For my use, the netbook is much better than an Ipad. I think the third generation of the fusion chip is the one to get for light gaming. The generation after the replacement of the amd e-350 arrives.

I personally think that notebooks make horrible platforms for gaming (aside from maybe flash or java games). Not only do they have slower components, but they have a small screen, a cramped keyboard, and a touchpad. Putting external I/O devices to compensate for this pretty much kills a notebook's advantage in the first place. There are full fledged gaming notebooks out there with power-hungry components, a large screen, and huge batteries (yup some of them can be rigged with 2 or more). However, I still find the ergonomics awkward, plus a good desktop will still perform better.

This is why I prefer my notebooks portable and usable (good size/weight, good battery life, near full-size keyboard), and my desktops capable and up-to-date (powerful enough to run whatever I'd need to do).

I agree that there is a wider variety of console games out there. However, a good PC game will run circles around the PS3 version in terms of graphics, audio and overall complexity. Current PC hardware (or even not-so-current ones) is just so much more capable than PS3 hardware. Consoles are just more convenient, as there are fewer things to go wrong. The interface is cleaner, and you know that a PS3 game will run in your PS3 (no need to think about hardware requirements, or keep upgrading every year to stay up-to-date).

Back to the topic: I still think that the E350 is a step forward. This level of integration makes it cheaper for us to buy portable notebooks/netbooks with some video capability. It's truly a step ahead of the Atom. If the next variant gives us more computing capability without bloating the power requirements, then that'd be a welcome addition to their lineup.

Just my tuppence worth.

gunslinger · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM »

I had a chance to watch Star Wars 1 and 2 (720p rips, approximately 6-8 GB each movie) this weekend using my HP DM1 netbook. There were several instances of dropped frames and choppy playback for both audio and video especially on the fight scenes. Is this an indication that the netbook is challenged to play these movies? Btw, both movies were playing fine in Xtreamer Gen1.

I'm using the latest version of VLC to play the files. Is this something that can be improved with the latest codecs or is this entirely dependent on the hardware limitation of the processor and GPU?

Stagea · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 18, 2011 at 04:12 PM »

Quote from: gunslinger on Apr 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM

I had a chance to watch Star Wars 1 and 2 (720p rips, approximately 6-8 GB each movie) this weekend using my HP DM1 netbook. There were several instances of dropped frames and choppy playback for both audio and video especially on the fight scenes. Is this an indication that the netbook is challenged to play these movies? Btw, both movies were playing fine in Xtreamer Gen1.

I'm using the latest version of VLC to play the files. Is this something that can be improved with the latest codecs or is this entirely dependent on the hardware limitation of the processor and GPU?

Disabling background applications, unnecessary services and windows aero might help. Tweaking the codec might also reduce the dropped frames.

FrancisD · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 20, 2011 at 11:51 AM »

Hi Stagea:

The notebook indeed has less power than a desktop. But many can tolerate modern warfare 2 at low res if it means they can play this with a notebook even if its plugged. To get this power from a notebook costs less than buying a gaming rig and a basic notebook.

No issue with PC games quality. You are at the bleeding edge with PC games.

The real problem is there are fewer and fewer titles left due to piracy. Can you play new God of War / Final Fantasy on the PC? There currently 50 million paying PS3 users and much more XBOX paying customers that to develop for the PC is suicidal for many firms. Due to this, there are rarely any original PC games. You see very original games from consoles and the IPAD / Apple App as these platforms pay for games. I guess its the market's fault - no one will develop USD 20-50 million games if these will just be pirated. So outside of franchises, we would be lucky to get very original games - maybe only if these will be ported from consoles.

Personally, I like PC gaming better, but the older games that have more creativity and challenge to them.

FrancisD · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 20, 2011 at 11:54 AM »

AMD e-350 stuttering. Please check other apps open as Stagea said and keep post processing to minimum / nothing. e-350 is good for just playback, any post processing stresses the video chip.