Author Topic: Marantz Receivers (Read 271015 times)

jvm · « **Reply #420 on:** Oct 25, 2003 at 11:43 AM »

Quote from: Skabyol on Oct 25, 2003 at 10:43 AM

Hi JVM,
I'm also on a lookout for ways to improve my 2 channel listening. And from what i have read so far, a dedicated 2 channel amp will surely beat an av amp at the same price point and several price points up. So if you are happy with the home theater performance of the 4300 but you are just looking to improve stereo listening, then spending the money on a dedicated stereo amp would be the way to go.
just my 1 peso (=US$0.02)
Skabyol

That's the next option I'm considering. It's the same advice that Nico of Arch Audio gave me. If I will not be able to sell my 4300 at my price then, I will just have to wait until I can raise the money for the dedicated stereo.

In case I would be able to sell it, I would have to choose which would be a value for money upgrade. So right now I'm making my list. I have not auditioned that many brands and models yet, so I'm taking my time to try all possible options there is.

Anymore suggestions guys?

Thank you.

H a n $ · « **Reply #421 on:** Oct 25, 2003 at 12:34 PM »

Jvm,

Try to consider Tube amp pre... have the chance to have a Scott vintage intergrated and compared it with my HK iba talaga and separate for audio... each amp have its own characteristic and attack on the music I played.. Jazz and mellow sound Scott and Hk naman for Rock and disco.. sarap hehehe both world pwede just relax and enjoy the music..

Skabyol · « **Reply #422 on:** Oct 25, 2003 at 12:40 PM »

jvm,
Yes, same advice when i talked to nico

.

Another cheap stereo "upgrade" recommended while waiting for funds for an equipment upgrade is to play around with your speaker placement (if you haven't already). There are several different methods..ie audio physic. Here is a link if you are interested.
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/faq/audiophysic.html
What equipment do you have with paired your 4300?.

Hope you find what you are looking for good luck.

muscleboy · « **Reply #423 on:** Oct 26, 2003 at 01:20 PM »

makapost na rin dito sa thread na to:

bought an SR7300ose today. it is a replacement for the NAD T762 which is also good but sounds different with some music cds i have.

still testing and playing around with it at the moment. i'm enjoying it. will let you guys know..

xXx

raycor · « **Reply #424 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 12:52 AM »

xXx,
im curious lang sir why you change NAD to marantz? sabi nila mataba daw sa music ang T762? did you sold out na your T762?

muscleboy · « **Reply #425 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 09:16 AM »

Quote from: raycor on Oct 27, 2003 at 12:52 AM

xXx,
im curious lang sir why you change NAD to marantz? sabi nila mataba daw sa music ang T762? did you sold out na your T762?

raycor,
yep the nad T762 was good. it sounds very good esp on jazz and classical music. i find the sound somewhat different playing other songs (pop and the like) on my dynaudio speakers. i listen to all kinds of music and i'd like my receiver to sound good with most of my cds.

i think it's more of a preference deciding between the two as both are very good receivers. i just prefer the marantz's overall sound and functionality. you might have a different opinion here.

i had my dealer exchange my NAD with the marantz. bought it here at bay bloor radio, toronto btw.

xXx

jvm · « **Reply #426 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 01:33 PM »

Quote from: Hans Adriane on Oct 25, 2003 at 12:34 PM

Jvm,

Try to consider Tube amp pre... have the chance to have a Scott vintage intergrated and compared it with my HK iba talaga and separate for audio... each amp have its own characteristic and attack on the music I played.. Jazz and mellow sound Scott and Hk naman for Rock and disco.. sarap hehehe both world pwede just relax and enjoy the music..

I'm aborting my plan to upgrade. I already auditioned the 6300. My impression is that in terms of musicality, there is negligible difference. It's only the power that's the big difference. But in real life listening levels, I would not be able to crank up volume that high so as to really hear the difference. And one important thing also, is that the monney that I would be adding for the upgrade, is almost the price the cheapest Rotel amp that I saw at THT, just add a little more.

I was also advised by Mr. Tuason not to go HK as the company have a problem on parts support.

So, on with plan B; a dedicated audio set-up. I have seen Rotel stereo amps at THT, and they are quite affordable, ranging from 11K-20k. I have also seen and heard a tube amp at arch audio, TS(xxx)?, worth 17k.

I've heard a tube-B2 combi and they really sound great. I have yet to hear any Rotel model. What can you say about Rotels? Would they be a good combi with B2's? I was not able to audition them last Saturday because of time constraints.

What are pro's and con's of tube against integrateds?

jvm · « **Reply #427 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 01:41 PM »

Quote from: Skabyol on Oct 25, 2003 at 12:40 PM

jvm,
Yes, same advice when i talked to nico .

Another cheap stereo "upgrade" recommended while waiting for funds for an equipment upgrade is to play around with your speaker placement (if you haven't already). There are several different methods..ie audio physic. Here is a link if you are interested.
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/faq/audiophysic.html
What equipment do you have with paired your 4300?.

Hope you find what you are looking for good luck.

I've changed cables, from generic to ecosse, and also some re-arrangements. I can only do a little in re-arranging because of space limitation. But even with small changes it does add some improvement, like better imaging when you got the proper toe-in.

My fronts are B2s and my surrounds are DTX's. Soon I will be replacing my center to Bronze center and I will use my current dtx center as surround back to make it 6.1.

Thank you for the advice.

james16 · « **Reply #428 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 02:27 PM »

Quote from: jvm on Oct 27, 2003 at 01:33 PM

I'm aborting my plan to upgrade. I already auditioned the 6300. My impression is that in terms of musicality, there is negligible difference. It's only the power that's the big difference. But in real life listening levels, I would not be able to crank up volume that high so as to really hear the difference. And one important thing also, is that the monney that I would be adding for the upgrade, is almost the price the cheapest Rotel amp that I saw at THT, just add a little more.

I was also advised by Mr. Tuason not to go HK as the company have a problem on parts support.

So, on with plan B; a dedicated audio set-up. I have seen Rotel stereo amps at THT, and they are quite affordable, ranging from 11K-20k. I have also seen and heard a tube amp at arch audio, TS(xxx)?, worth 17k.

I've heard a tube-B2 combi and they really sound great. I have yet to hear any Rotel model. What can you say about Rotels? Would they be a good combi with B2's? I was not able to audition them last Saturday because of time constraints.

What are pro's and con's of tube against integrateds?

hi sir, pls dont get me wrong but i personally think that HK doesn't have any Parts Support problem. that is one of the primary reason i got a hk receiver, i considered parts and service support (other than it sounds great).

If you will look at previous pages here, there was a member here who had a problem with his marantz rcvr. what was the solution, it was replace with another brand.... now where is the parts support?

anyway, no one yet has answered if there is a service center for marantz?

note: im not against marantz but i'm just disagreeing about HK having Parts Support problem...

peace....

jvm · « **Reply #429 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 02:54 PM »

Quote from: james16 on Oct 27, 2003 at 02:27 PM

hi sir, pls dont get me wrong but i personally think that HK doesn't have any Parts Support problem. that is one of the primary reason i got a hk receiver, i considered parts and service support (other than it sounds great).

If you will look at previous pages here, there was a member here who had a problem with his marantz rcvr. what was the solution, it was replace with another brand.... now where is the parts support?

anyway, no one yet has answered if there is a service center for marantz?

note: im not against marantz but i just disagreeing about HK having Parts Support problem...

peace....

I didn't meant to discredit or downgrade any brand, I'm just sharing what I've heard. Which might prompt interested members to verify it as they might have more reliable info.

james16 · « **Reply #430 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 03:02 PM »

Quote from: jvm on Oct 27, 2003 at 02:54 PM

I didn't meant to discredit or downgrade any brand, I'm just sharing what I've heard. Which might prompt interested members to verify it as they might have more reliable info.

i know sir, thanks anyway....

i just feel what you heard is a tactic...

lahat naman ng brands ay maganda its just a matter of preference...

what's important we are happy, enjoying and content with what ht equipment we have and walang sakit sa ulo... (sirain ba)...

akyatbundok · « **Reply #431 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 03:18 PM »

hmmm... interesting. i did not consider parts & service support when i made my purchase. now that's making me think. gotta be extra careful with my unit so it wouldnt have to be a problem. i was lucky with my old denon it lasted 3-4yrs with no problems.

jvm · « **Reply #432 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 03:42 PM »

Quote from: james16 on Oct 27, 2003 at 03:02 PM

i just feel what you heard is a tactic...

Well, knowing THT is one of the stores that's highly recommended by members, they don't have to resort to this tactic. IMHO

james16 · « **Reply #433 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 03:50 PM »

Quote from: jvm on Oct 27, 2003 at 03:42 PM

Well, knowing THT is one of the stores that's highly recommended by members, they don't have to resort to this tactic. IMHO

sebman · « **Reply #434 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 03:54 PM »

OT...reality check.. almost all stores would praise to high heavens specially when selling to a potential customer brands they carry.. overall its still the customer's decision whatever he/she decides and finally buy which he/she deems reasonable to his/her hard earned money.. just my 5 cents worth

james16 · « **Reply #435 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 04:16 PM »

Quote from: sebman on Oct 27, 2003 at 03:54 PM

OT...reality check.. almost all stores would praise to high heavens specially when selling to a potential customer brands they carry.. overall its still the customer's decision whatever he/she decides and finally buy which he/she deems reasonable to his/her hard earned money.. just my 5 cents worth

i agree, idol!

akyatbundok · « **Reply #436 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 04:22 PM »

Hey guys IMHO lang po, i think a dealer should be careful about putting down other brands esp. those they don't carry, because it could easily be misinterpreted as self-serving. Even if it is their honest opinion, it still serves them better than the dealer of those brands. I would rather hear a negative review from someone who is carrying the brand. At least he would be speaking from experience. Anyway, IMHO almost all brands have lemons and almost all brands have star performers.

I once met a guy who was very cool... very generous... he let me audition his gear for almost 2hrs. But everytime i mention a brand that he does not have, he has a negative comment about it. Within a split-second of uttering the last syllable of a brand, he would have a comment like: "ang hirap dyan sa brand x...", "mahirap sa parts" or "manipis tunog". To the point that i would mention just any brand to test if he was pulling my leg. Anyway, my point is that he seemed to be defending his choices rather than helping me choose the one i need.

Jim & Nico are unique.. they actually have positive comments about brands they don't carry.

cousin skeeter · « **Reply #437 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 04:54 PM »

jvm,

bro, how would you describe the sound of the marantz/b2 pair. match ba? also read that medyo bitin ang marantz sa HT. Is this true?

james16 · « **Reply #438 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 05:06 PM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Oct 27, 2003 at 04:22 PM

Hey guys IMHO lang, a dealer should be careful about putting down other brands esp. those they don't carry, because it could easily be misinterpreted as self-serving. Even if it is their honest opinion, it still serves them better than the dealer of those brands. I would rather hear a negative review from someone who is carrying the brand. At least he would be speaking from experience. I automatically get wary when somebody has all negative views on a certain brand. Anyway, IMHO almost all brands have lemons and almost all brands have star performers.

I once met this guy who owns lots of great gear. He was a cool guy... very generous... he let me audition his gear for almost 2hrs. But everytime i mention a brand that he does not have, he has a negative comment about it. Within a split-second of saying the last syllable of any brand, he would have a comment like: "mahirap sa parts yan" or "manipis tunog nyan". To the point that i would mention just any brand to test if he was pulling my leg. Anyway, my point is that he seemed to be defending his choices rather than helping me choose the one i need.

I found Jim (Spectra) & Nico (Archi) to be unique.. they actually have positive comments about brands they don't carry.

i agree also, i think its human nature to defend what they have. There are stores like that, i should know coz i had experienced it. Sinaraan na nya yung brand na meron ako, tapos sinaraan yung ibang brands na di nya dala... nakilala ko ugali nya, he is a businessman talaga.

I find stores that dont resort to badmouthing brands, very helpful.... like Architectural Audio (Nico, Epoy and Chad). I really find them one of the most accommodating, customer service oriented av stores out there. Like what they said, its still up to the customer what he chooses.

They certainly have earned my trust and respect when it comes to our hobby.

I hope other stores would be like them.

jvm · « **Reply #439 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 05:27 PM »

Quote from: cousin skeeter on Oct 27, 2003 at 04:54 PM

jvm,

bro, how would you describe the sound of the marantz/b2 pair. match ba? also read that medyo bitin ang marantz sa HT. Is this true?

I think they are a good match too. For music, it's warm and smooth sounding. When I bought the B2's at Spectra, I requested the store to hook it up with a marantz and Jim commented that "maganda rin palang match ang Marantz at MA". I'm satisfied with it, until I heard the B2's paired with a dedicated stereo amp, but that's another story.

For HT, I didn't really think it's bitin as I don't have that much comparison yet. For my use, it can also rock my apartment.

Just try it and go for what you like, no matter what we and others say. These comments are just points to think about. They should be taken proactively, wether we agree or not.

cousin skeeter · « **Reply #440 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 05:36 PM »

jvm,

thanks pre! ksi i like marantz having pre outs eh and 6.1 na. still deciding pa between hk and marantz but thanks a lot for ur inputs bro!

james16 · « **Reply #441 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 06:25 PM »

Quote from: cousin skeeter on Oct 27, 2003 at 05:36 PM

jvm,

thanks pre! ksi i like marantz having pre outs eh and 6.1 na. still deciding pa between hk and marantz but thanks a lot for ur inputs bro!

that's right, bottomline : trust your ears... wag ka magmadali... and try to audition as many brands as you can... have a goodtime also in choosing which ht equipment you are going to purchase...

Philander · « **Reply #442 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 08:37 PM »

Quote from: xXx on Oct 26, 2003 at 01:20 PM

makapost na rin dito sa thread na to:

bought an SR7300ose today. it is a replacement for the NAD T762 which is also good but sounds different with some music cds i have.

still testing and playing around with it at the moment. i'm enjoying it. will let you guys know..

xXx

If you don't mind, how much is this SR7300ose in Toronto?

Thanks.

nels76 · « **Reply #443 on:** Oct 27, 2003 at 09:02 PM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Oct 27, 2003 at 04:22 PM

I once met a guy who was very cool... very generous... he let me audition his gear for almost 2hrs. But everytime i mention a brand that he does not have, he has a negative comment about it. Within a split-second of uttering the last syllable of a brand, he would have a comment like: "ang hirap dyan sa brand x...", "mahirap sa parts" or "manipis tunog". To the point that i would mention just any brand to test if he was pulling my leg. Anyway, my point is that he seemed to be defending his choices rather than helping me choose the one i need.

bro akyat,

ako ba ito?
Just tap me from behind. I'm open to comments. At least from those comments we'll improve

My thought on Shops and Sales agent.

If you are confident enough that your product will be selling by itself and confident enough on how you sell your products, you do not have to resort to dirty tactics. Sign of unprofessionalism and inconfidence.

muscleboy · « **Reply #444 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 04:51 AM »

Quote from: Philander on Oct 27, 2003 at 08:37 PM

If you don't mind, how much is this SR7300ose in Toronto?

Thanks.

phil,
mahal dito (as always). i got it for around $1,550 CAN including taxes. naka sale na to sa lagay na yan

xXx

i dont believe na manipis tumunog ang marantz. i wasn't actually looking for a marantz until i heard one.

gutierrez · « **Reply #445 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 05:04 AM »

Quote from: james16 on Oct 27, 2003 at 03:50 PM

hehehe I think I know why the BIG smile

akyatbundok · « **Reply #446 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 09:05 AM »

Quote from: nels76 on Oct 27, 2003 at 09:02 PM

ako ba ito?
Just tap me from behind. I'm open to comments. At least from those comments we'll improve

oisst pre nels76, hinde ikaw no... ikaw eh 2 out of 3... very cool & generous pero hinde negatibo ang comments mo hehe. actually you broke the ice for me, im more open to meeting guys from this forum bcoz of you. before mahiyain pa ako dito.

yung guy na na-meet ko matagal na yun years ago pa, even before naging member ako sa pinoydvd... dati kasi mahilig na ako bumili ng buy&sell newspaper at marami na din ako napuntahan na setup ng fellow enthusiasts from way back. yung acoustic energy setup ko nga nabuo from buy&sell eh.

hi xXx, congrats sir, i have the non-ose version and im very happy with it also. one of the closest thing to a stereo amp that ive heard in a receiver, though i havent heard that many.

muscleboy · « **Reply #447 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 10:54 AM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Oct 28, 2003 at 09:05 AM

oisst pre nels76, hinde ikaw no... ikaw eh 2 out of 3... very cool & generous pero hinde negatibo ang comments mo hehe. actually you broke the ice for me, im more open to meeting guys from this forum bcoz of you. before mahiyain pa ako dito. yung guy na na-meet ko matagal na yun years ago pa, even before naging member ako sa pinoydvd... dati kasi mahilig na ako bumili ng buy&sell newspaper at marami na din ako napuntahan na setup ng fellow enthusiasts from way back. yung acoustic energy setup ko nga nabuo from buy&sell eh.

hi xXx, congrats sir, i have the non-ose version and im very happy with it also. one of the closest thing to a stereo amp that ive heard in a receiver, though i havent heard that many.

akyat,
i think the 7300 and 7300 ose are basically the same, the ose is just the supercharged version. Upgraded power supply (110w x 6), better shielding, gold plated jacks and a copper plated chassis with bottom plate.

i'm actually an HK fan but HK is ridiculously expensive here. sana dinala ko na lang yung HK receiver ko from pinas dati, hehe..

xXx

Philander · « **Reply #448 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 11:01 AM »

Quote from: xXx on Oct 28, 2003 at 10:54 AM

akyat,
i think the 7300 and 7300 ose are basically the same, the ose is just the supercharged version. Upgraded power supply (110w x 6), better shielding, gold plated jacks and a copper plated chassis with bottom plate.

xXx

Just to add, merong HDCD decoder ang 7300ose.

muscleboy · « **Reply #449 on:** Oct 28, 2003 at 11:23 AM »

Quote from: Philander on Oct 28, 2003 at 11:01 AM

Just to add, merong HDCD decoder ang 7300ose.

hehe.. nakaligtaan ko yan. i-edit ko nga sana yung post ko, naunahan mo lang ako bro..