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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #120 on: Aug 05, 2003 at 08:46 PM »
Sigurado ako kayang kaya yamaha yung DTX9.5T. Madali lang i drive yung speaker na to. Kaya nga ng Sakura yamaha pa! ;D ;D ;D

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #121 on: Aug 05, 2003 at 09:10 PM »
Sigurado ako kayang kaya yamaha yung DTX9.5T. Madali lang i drive yung speaker na to. Kaya nga ng Sakura yamaha pa! ;D ;D ;D

FYI: Mas powerful ang Sakura Amps in terms of two channel reproduction, though hindi ganoon ka-accurate ang sound. Sound quality? of course.. Yamaha.
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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #122 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 11:34 AM »
FYI: Mas powerful ang Sakura Amps in terms of two channel reproduction, though hindi ganoon ka-accurate ang sound. Sound quality? of course.. Yamaha.

Hi Philander,

I'm not familiar with Sakura amp internal circuitry/features... why is it more powerful in two channel?  :)


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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #123 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 11:40 AM »
Hi Philander,

I'm not familiar with Sakura amp internal circuitry/features... why is it more powerful in two channel?  :)


positive_noise.  ;D

Most Sakura amps have RMS power of 150 watts (per channel) in stereo. The center and surround power is about 35 watts RMS each only.

Some Sakura amps have upto 300 watts RMs power.

Expect the power.
« Last Edit: Aug 06, 2003 at 11:43 AM by Philander »

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #124 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 12:06 PM »
so you think sakura having low center and rear power would contribute to a friends wharf diamond center not sounding as good as his 8.1s? whats a good soultion to this??

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #125 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 02:27 PM »
so you think sakura having low center and rear power would contribute to a friends wharf diamond center not sounding as good as his 8.1s? whats a good soultion to this??

Yes definitely. 35 watts RMS power can drive the diamond center but it won't be able to force the diamond center to sing.

Most likely, a 35 watts RMS at 8 ohms (maximum) is not enough to drive the 100 watts @ 6 ohms, low-sensitivity speaker, a certain amplifier does not emit its maximum power accurately, baka magclip na, so rough approximate na baka hanggang 28 or lower ang maximum power, e hindi pa accurate.

Solution? Wala pang available na Sakura  na may 5ch equal amplifier power. Either gumamit sya ng 3 stereo amplifiers, or bumili ng 5ch equal amplifier power.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #126 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 05:06 PM »
Hi Philander,

Thanks for the info! This is one of the disadvantage of sakura receiver! a none equal power in all 5ch! unlike most branded receiver has equal power distribution.

Thanks,
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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #127 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 05:57 PM »
It could be considered a drawback of sakura. However, there is the run-around on this.

Firstly, typical listening will not really reach at 35watts even if you are using wharf.

Second, DVD players and maybe sakura (this i dont know) can have individual channel level tailored to be at same level to each other in aN HT setup.

In HT setup, you may have your front set at -10dB, and your rear and center be adjusted to +?? levels using test tone (in DVD player, some has) until, you judge each channel to be in same loudness level.

So people with tight budget could really make use of sakura without the seemingly disadvatage unequal power amp ratings in its channels.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #128 on: Aug 06, 2003 at 06:11 PM »
This is a PS to give a real example. ihave a Kenwood XD-DV9 rated 80W for front and 40W for center and rear.

For front, it is fixed as the referece (at 0dB). The adjustment is on the center and rear channels. Thus, my setting in these Center/Rear channels are +3dB (relative to front 0dB). This can be interpreted this way: at any volume level, the Center/rear channel should pump twice its power.

Another way of saying this is that at certain volume, if all levels are set to 0dB, if front is making 10watts music, then center/rear does 5watts. but since I set the center/rear at +3dB, it is like the front firing 10watts, and my center/rear will be doubling its output (5watts x 2) to 10 watts.

Of course, when you now listens with 40watts in front channel, the center/rear will be at their peak of 40watts. But this will hardly happen in an ordinary small viewing room.


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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #129 on: Aug 07, 2003 at 09:35 PM »
Sigurado ako kayang kaya yamaha yung DTX9.5T. Madali lang i drive yung speaker na to. Kaya nga ng Sakura yamaha pa! ;D ;D ;D

Kaya kung sa kaya syempre, pero we need to validate kung ok na ang high freq nito using yamaha, di kasi ito detectable using sakura, it is the main reason why torque need to parallel a cambridge to add some highs.
In this manner, we could attest this would be the one of the best for entry level speakers.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #130 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 02:46 PM »
i'm glad to find this thread about sakura amps. it seems that there are lots of people using sakura amps already so i hope someone could help my friend's problem:

my friend has a sakura amp/receiver. i forgot the model but it has DSPs, 5 analog input/ac-3, tuner. he also have an AV Link brand DVD player with 6 analog output.

i helped him setup his HT over the weekend. the 6 output of the AV Link DVD player were connected to the 6 input of the sakura amp and all corresponding speakers was hooked up including the sub.

we tested it but unfortunately the surround speakers don't work. not a single sound came out it. we tested using different DVDs from orig region 1 to pirated ones but to no avail. i checked all the connections over and over but everything seems correct. so here are my questions:

1.) i noticed that on the LCD panel of the sakura amp, the "srs virtual ..."(something like that) is lit up. since "SRS" is a virtual surround could it be defeating the purpose of the surround esp. that virtual surround is built for stereo to have a virtual surround sound? but if i choose "tuner" to listen to AM/FM the surround speakers work EVEN with the "SRS" light ON.

2.) does any of you guys have the "SRS" light lit up but was able to make the surround speakers work during DVD watching?

3.) is there a way to disable the "SRS"? i can't seem to find the button to disable it even on the remote control.

4.) anybody experienced this problem before? if so, what did you do?

5.) could it be a receiver problem or dvd player problem?

my friend lost the manual of the sakura receiver/amp and dvd player thus making things harder to solve.

any help will be appreciated. :)

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #131 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:04 PM »
It has been suggested by Av_phile about the settings in the DVD player:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=15493;start=msg256851#msg256851

First, check the audio set-up menu in the DVD player.


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1.) i noticed that on the LCD panel of the sakura amp, the "srs virtual ..."(something like that) is lit up. since "SRS" is a virtual surround could it be defeating the purpose of the surround esp. that virtual surround is built for stereo to have a virtual surround sound? but if i choose "tuner" to listen to AM/FM the surround speakers work EVEN with the "SRS" light ON.

Forget about the LCD display of sakura. It does not function as it should be.

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2.) does any of you guys have the "SRS" light lit up but was able to make the surround speakers work during DVD watching?

The DSP and other sound enhancement is turned-off if you are using the 5.1 analog input (in case with Sakura).

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3.) is there a way to disable the "SRS"? i can't seem to find the button to disable it even on the remote control.

Like I said, some function are lighted in the LCD even it is not working or even it does have that feature.

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5.) could it be a receiver problem or dvd player problem?


Maybe both, first check the DVD player's audio set-up, be sure that surround speakers are set to ON Mode.

Check some settings in the Recevier, check the surround volume, maybe the volume is set to minimal in 5.1 analog input mode (in stereo mode maybe it was set to maximum level).

Check the integrity of the receiver.. maybe the 5.1 analog input is not working, just a display or added connection which is not working at all. Or maybe there is really a problem.. some broken wires, broken RCA, etc.


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my friend lost the manual of the sakura receiver/amp and dvd player thus making things harder to solve.?

Yup, i guess the problem is in the audio set-up in the dvd player....


You may also check if the connection of the surround in put in the 5.1 analog input is working... just input the Front Left and Front right connection (or any stereo sources).
« Last Edit: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:13 PM by Philander »

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #132 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:24 PM »
Philander,

thanks for the reply. i posted the problem in this thread coz i think it's more appropriate.

anyway, how do you go to the audio setup of the DVD player? do you need to have a DVD in the player?

thanks. :)

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #133 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:38 PM »
No need for a DVD, some settings are disable while on-play status.

I'm not familiar with the audio settings of the AV Link DVD player.

How do you go to audio set-up? Oh, this is hard...
Let me try.
First, press the Set-up button in the remote control (be sure the unit is turned on.. heheheh). Navigate, then go to audio set-up option, then follow av_phile said..

"You may want to check the on screen DVD menu item typically labelled Audio Set-up.  De-select the "downmix to stereo" or stereo option which opens all the 5 chanels.".

Then be sure that ON state/mode is set to the different channels.. (sub. center and rears).

HTH.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #134 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:48 PM »
No need for a DVD, some settings are disable while on-play status.

I'm not familiar with the audio settings of the AV Link DVD player.

How do you go to audio set-up? Oh, this is hard...
Let me try.
First, press the Set-up button in the remote control (be sure the unit is turned on.. heheheh). Navigate, then go to audio set-up option, then follow av_phile said..

"You may want to check the on screen DVD menu item typically labelled Audio Set-up.  De-select the "downmix to stereo" or stereo option which opens all the 5 chanels.".

Then be sure that ON state/mode is set to the different channels.. (sub. center and rears).

HTH.

thanks, Philander. :)

i'm going to try it when i go to my friend's house and i hope that his DVD player has an audio setup.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #135 on: Sep 29, 2003 at 03:52 PM »
thanks, Philander. :)

i'm going to try it when i go to my friend's house and i hope that his DVD player has an audio setup.

There is and there should be... goodluck.  :)

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #136 on: Sep 30, 2003 at 09:41 AM »
@Endless

Please check the surround volume of your Sakura amp. When you turn ON the Sakura, it automatically adjust all its volume to zero. So make sure you increase the volume of your surround.

HTH

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #137 on: Sep 30, 2003 at 10:08 AM »
@Endless

Please check the surround volume of your Sakura amp. When you turn ON the Sakura, it automatically adjust all its volume to zero. So make sure you increase the volume of your surround.

HTH

Yakuini,

i did adjust the surround volume to full volume but to no avail. i've yet to do audio setup Philander and av_phile said coz i've been busy with work.

thanks. :)

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #138 on: Sep 30, 2003 at 10:24 AM »
One more thing. You need to click the 7channel button to enable the 5.1 setup of your Sakura.

My Sakura amp is the old model (No tuner) and it has this 7channel/dvd button that I have to push for the 5.1 setup to work.

Those are the two things that I overlooked kasi nung ayaw umandar surround ko.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #139 on: Oct 01, 2003 at 12:17 PM »
Hi! Im also using a SAKURA and I found out that the BASS is very good. Sounds Satisfactory. But you need a CHINA DVD Player with AC3 output to have that 5.1 surround sound. BTW, Im planning to upgrade my system and selling my SAKUA SAV-997 (500 Watts). Hehehe :) Just PM if Interested.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #140 on: Oct 10, 2003 at 03:02 PM »
Philander and Av_phile,

i did the what you suggested regarding turning off the "downmix to stereo" and it worked.

at first, it didn't work. i was so frustrated and start checking the RCA cables but everything's good. i tried several times turning "downmix to stereo" ON and OFF but to no avail.

i was about to give up on the dvd player and sakura amp and call it a day then my friend suggested to try different DVD (i was using fast n the furious pirated dvd) so i put in original R1 "gone in 60secs". lo and behold, it worked right away.

i didn't realize these pirated DVD can be the culprit. i haven't experienced this before but only darker pictures. anyway it's working now. :)

thanks again.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #141 on: Oct 10, 2003 at 05:34 PM »
Anyone who could bring a Sakura Amp for the Cable eb tom?

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #142 on: Oct 29, 2003 at 09:11 AM »
Was informed this is locally made.  Does anyone know where the showroom is or their factory/office?

Has anyone tried their 6 channel amp (not a receiver)?

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #143 on: Oct 31, 2003 at 08:12 AM »
just to correct myself -- these amps are china made not local.  they are distributed by a company based in Las Pinas. this local outfit provides QA and local support.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #144 on: Dec 09, 2003 at 07:49 PM »
Mga 'tol I've been using AV377 for 6mos now kung sa pang Home theater 5.1 ok ang performance nya pero kung pang stereo music playing ewan ko d ko ma feel!

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #145 on: Dec 10, 2003 at 08:41 AM »
hi guys, im a newbie here in a sense that its my 1st time to write a post :) but ive browsed this site for a month already and man! this place is really informative.

ok ba ang sakura av-5023? its around P3,700 ata. ano difference nya sa av-389 and other existing sakura amps? my budget for this is P4K down. kaya sakura lang ang alam ko na ok for this price....please help....thanks :)
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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #146 on: Dec 11, 2003 at 11:18 AM »
For those who are on a tight budget like us who want to enjoy home theatre sound, Sakura avr can be something good to start with.  I am using Sakura AV-377 in my bedroom theatre set-up and i believe that it sounds good for a Php 3.5k receiver.  However, for stereo (music) listening, all i can say is it's not that good and the built-in tuner's performance is wanting. It's good i have a separate stereo system in the sala.

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #147 on: Dec 12, 2003 at 01:13 AM »
many mentioned the AV-377...ano ang kaibahan nya sa AV-389? what about the AV-5023? anyone heard or have seen this?

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Re:Quality of Sakura amps
« Reply #148 on: Dec 12, 2003 at 11:12 AM »
any pics of this sakura amps.... :)

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Sakura 327
« Reply #149 on: Feb 06, 2004 at 06:44 PM »
Have anyone tried this any feedback?

What are the differences of these models
Sakura 327
Sakura 377
Sakura 387