Author Topic: SAKURA AMP (Read 326217 times)

DaiHarD · « **Reply #150 on:** Feb 06, 2004 at 06:53 PM »

are this sakura amps using PMPO or RMS?

I inquire in raon, some say its RMS some PMPO

?

Which one is correct? Do any of you have contact number of Sakura distributor or service center? Thanks

av_phile1 · « **Reply #151 on:** Feb 07, 2004 at 12:23 PM »

Check the user manual's technical specification. Even if they advertise in PMPO, they usually state the RMS in this section, whether across the entire 20 Khz bandwidth or just at 1 Khz.

torque · « **Reply #152 on:** Feb 09, 2004 at 08:47 AM »

Quote from: DaiHarD on Feb 06, 2004 at 06:53 PM

are this sakura amps using PMPO or RMS?

as per manual's spec it is in PMPO.

Philander · « **Reply #153 on:** Feb 09, 2004 at 08:55 AM »

Sakura Amps power ratings are RMS.

torque · « **Reply #154 on:** Feb 09, 2004 at 10:17 AM »

Here is the spec from Sakura AV-377

Main channel (PMPO) - 250W+250W
Speaker impedance - 4 to 16 ohms
Center channel (PMPO) - 50W
Speaker impedance - 8 to 16 ohms
Surround (PMPO) - 50W+50W
Speaker impedance - 8 to 16 ohms

DaiHarD · « **Reply #155 on:** Feb 09, 2004 at 03:46 PM »

I just bought Sakura AV-327 yesterday, its cheaper than 377 & 388 but no tuner.

The sound was good except my front speakers, when I turn the amp on it will automatically adjust the volume to 28 and I can only hear sounds when I volume it up to 34. The maximum volume was 64.

How about you guys on what volume are you using on your front sakura speakers?

positive_noise · « **Reply #156 on:** Feb 09, 2004 at 08:13 PM »

Mga Bro,

siguro depende sa revision ng manual ninyo... may PMPO at may RMS!

tsik!-tsik!

positive-noise.

mojako · « **Reply #157 on:** Feb 10, 2004 at 08:47 PM »

weird, pero I have the same experience with my AV-377. Ang panget ng sound pag audio (stereo).. or thats because of the generic DVD player im using. I tried a branded discman connected by stereo RCA's to the sakura and maganda yung sound.

PenoyDVD · « **Reply #158 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 09:05 AM »

Quote from: DaiHarD on Feb 09, 2004 at 03:46 PM

I just bought Sakura AV-327 yesterday, its cheaper than 377 & 388 but no tuner.

The sound was good except my front speakers, when I turn the amp on it will automatically adjust the volume to 28 and I can only hear sounds when I volume it up to 34. The maximum volume was 64.

pre ok ba ang sakura mo??? ano ang player gamit mo??? at speaker??? balak ko kasing bumili,meron na akong Kebao 6089 player

How about you guys on what volume are you using on your front sakura speakers?

arthurallanj · « **Reply #159 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 02:33 PM »

Hello po. I have a Sakura AV1600. I bought it 3 or 4 years ago, it's still ok. The ProLogic decoder is legit. Dolby has licensed it. The DSPs are working too. So far, I've only seen 2 Sakuras that have legit ProLogic. AV1600 and AV1800. I've been told, and have seen on catalogues, that there are other models that are Dolby licensed, although, as I've said, I've only seen, tested, and installed those 2. I like to listen to my audio cds on this amplifier in ProLogic mode coz it seems to generate a wider soundspace for audio cds, I personally think it sounds better than my Yamaha DSP-AX430 in ProLogic II. So, to answer your question, for their price (mine was 3.5K), it's a great amp for the not-so-rich home theater enthusiast. Now, the 5.1 channel input at the back, you'd have to have a DVD player with a built in DD & DTS decoder, and you'd have to switch your dvd to 5.1 mode, that's the purpose of the 5.1 input. Being able to enjoy dvds without buying a digital amp. Note that I said DD & DTS decoder, because I installed another AV1600 for a friend using a Xenon DVD player, w/c only has a DD decoder, not a DTS decoder, so the movie goes silent when we switch the audio to DTS mode, while mine decodes both so... my advantage there. Another note, the AV1600 is better than the AV1800, although the latter has more inputs and switches for speakers A & B, the surround volume in 5.1 mode is not loud enough even at max. My friend and I had to buy a separate 2 ch amp to amplify the surround channel. Although, I don't think the AV1600 is still available. I think they stopped making it. Sad, coz it was one of their finest, at least in my opinion. Hope this helps you guys, TC.

Philander · « **Reply #160 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 02:42 PM »

arthurallanj,

Yan din ang gamit ko before, problem lang is mono ang rear surround (as prologic is 4.1). But the sound is great and very powerful especially in stereo/phanthom mode.

Decent looking pa.

arthurallanj · « **Reply #161 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 03:11 PM »

Pareng Philander,
question lang, prologic is indeed 4.1 naman talaga d b? unlike prologic II, and since this is just a prologic amp, it does have mono surround, but if you use it for dvd using the 5.1 input, discrete talaga ang right surround from the left surround. I've tested it kc with the SWAT dvd and the gunfire sounds on both surround channels were really indepent from each other, not mono. Clarification lang. Thank you pare, ha?

DaiHarD · « **Reply #162 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 03:25 PM »

Quote

pre ok ba ang sakura mo??? ano ang player gamit mo??? at speaker??? balak ko kasing bumili,meron na akong Kebao 6089 player

@penoydvd,

So far ok naman sakura ko, yung front speakers lang pinoproblema ko kailangan kong ivolume up to 34 bago lalabas ang sounds.

Cheap setup lang ako

Player ko Hanabishi (bought last Oct. 2002)
Front (Rongxin Tower)
Center (custom built by myself, speakers from car)
Rear ( Old sony speakers)

Philander · « **Reply #163 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 03:29 PM »

Quote from: arthurallanj on Feb 13, 2004 at 03:11 PM

Pareng Philander,
question lang, prologic is indeed 4.1 naman talaga d b? unlike prologic II, and since this is just a prologic amp, it does have mono surround, but if you use it for dvd using the 5.1 input, discrete talaga ang right surround from the left surround. I've tested it kc with the SWAT dvd and the gunfire sounds on both surround channels were really indepent from each other, not mono. Clarification lang. Thank you pare, ha?

Yes ProLogic is indeed 4.1. But may mga pro logic amplifier na hindi mono ang surround even in some Sakura models.

With the case of AV1600 as I've used before, mono ang surround channel sa 5.1 analog input. I tested na magconnect lang sa isang surround channel (for example left surround) both surrounds speakers (lef and right) are working.

johndoe · « **Reply #164 on:** Feb 13, 2004 at 07:00 PM »

would you recommend a stereo amp of this brand?

ultraman · « **Reply #165 on:** Feb 14, 2004 at 02:58 AM »

Mga Bro,
Tanong lang po,,, what is the difference between rms and pmpo?

Bago lang po kasi ako sa mundo ninyo.

tnx....

Philander · « **Reply #166 on:** Feb 14, 2004 at 03:18 AM »

Quote from: johndoe on Feb 13, 2004 at 07:00 PM

would you recommend a stereo amp of this brand?

I will choose Konzert Stereo amp over sakura stereo amp. For multi-channel, I'll choose Sakura.

Philander · « **Reply #167 on:** Feb 14, 2004 at 03:28 AM »

Quote from: g26d2 on Feb 14, 2004 at 02:58 AM

Mga Bro,
Tanong lang po,,, what is the difference between rms and pmpo? Bago lang po kasi ako sa mundo ninyo. tnx....

RMS - Root mean square - avearge power that amplifier can output. Average amount of power over one complete cycle of the time-varying signal.

PMPO - Peak Music Power Output - Purely Marketing Power Output Hype that implies rating of the peak power capacity of amplifiers . This power figure tells the power which the amplifier can maximally supply in some conditions (very short period of time).

For info here:
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/audio/amplifier_power.html

ultraman · « **Reply #168 on:** Feb 14, 2004 at 03:42 AM »

Philander,
tnx for the reply.. just finished browsing the pmpo thread and find out that pmpo is definitely isdapeyk hehehe...

arthurallanj · « **Reply #169 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31 AM »

Quote from: Philander on Feb 13, 2004 at 03:29 PM

Yes ProLogic is indeed 4.1. But may mga pro logic amplifier na hindi mono ang surround even in some Sakura models.

With the case of AV1600 as I've used before, mono ang surround channel sa 5.1 analog input. I tested na magconnect lang sa isang surround channel (for example left surround) both surrounds speakers (lef and right) are working.

Sir Philander,
I haven't tried doing what you did with your sakura av1600, subukan ko mamya. But the only proof I have is watching DVDs that have discrete signals on the left and right surrounds, like the SWAT movie I mentioned, kasi nagulat nga ako e, kasi that was the first time I heard both surrounds working independently from each other, the scene was about some thugs trying to help the suspect escape, but was foiled because that escort was just a decoy. Yung tunog ng gunfire was really coming only from one surround channel, then nag transfer on the other. But anyway, mg-e-experiment ako mamya to confirm. Thanks mga pare, I'm so glad n nagparegister ako dito sa PinoyDVD, ang dami kong natututunan.

arthurallanj · « **Reply #170 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 09:56 AM »

Quote from: johndoe on Feb 13, 2004 at 07:00 PM

would you recommend a stereo amp of this brand?

Bro Johndoe,
my answer to your question would be, it depends on your budget, kasi we all know that iba naman talaga ang quality ng china made products sa mga japanese branded products, d b? but, sakura also has "higher-end" line naman e. I even saw a sakura 5 channel amp once(no decoder, though), ang ganda ng itsura, akala ko nga major brand e, and when the guys from the store auditioned, ang ganda din e. Sakura is actually one of the good ones when it comes to the least expensive amps. You just have to choose carefully which model to buy. I have the AV1600, installed 2 with friends, and installed 1 AV1800, ok naman sya considering the price, esp. when used with good but fairly priced speakers like daiichis, and these two are Dolby ProLogic licensed. Binibili nga sa akin for 7T e, ayaw ko, kasi I think they stopped making it. I bought mine for only 3.5K. And what I like about it most, is it has some sort of a speaker protection system, kasi when one speaker clips, automatically off yung audio, you'd have to turn off the power to kinda "reset" it. In closing, worth naman ang igagastos mo if you'd buy one of their amps. TC.

Philander · « **Reply #171 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 10:41 AM »

I agree, solid ang sound ng SAKURA. My former AV 1600 proves it. It even uses toroidal transformer. Ginamit ko pa minsan sa party (open area), kayang ipower ang 2 huge mobile loudspeakers. Hindi nagdidistort even at high volumes.

And yes, di lahat ng SAKURA models ay matino, meron ding tunong lata at madaling masira.

arthurallanj,
7K for AV1600? Wala na ba talagang available sa Raon? Binenta ko lang ng mga 2.8K yung akin dati... nakapanghihinayang... anyway sa taga pinoyDvd rin naman, di ko matandaan yung username nya.

Kuha ko dun dati is 3325, may 5% discount kasi.

Yakuini · « **Reply #172 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 11:23 AM »

Quote from: Philander on Feb 16, 2004 at 10:41 AM

I agree, solid ang sound ng SAKURA.

Agree din ako dyan!!!

Sakura din amp ko...5 channel amp (no tuner) with Remote. Separate Volume control for Center, LS, RS and Front.

Toroidal Transformer din ang gamit and medyo magibat. Nakalimutan ko lang kung ano model number.

Paired the amp with DTX Slim series tower and center and I am very satisfied with it.

At 9'oclock volume, it will pump your chest even if you are 8 to 9 feet away from the speakers

(experienced this while watching Bad Boys II)

Dirk_Diggler · « **Reply #173 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 11:55 AM »

i'm also a happy owner of a sakura av amp and dtx combo

maganda sya tumunog, tried it with my DMB/Bob Marley/ cd's and verry happy sa sound nya. i'm thinking kung kukuha pako ng subs (another budget sub : the DQ12

)for my system kse maliit lang yung room ko and i'm quite satisfied.

arthurallanj · « **Reply #174 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 12:22 PM »

Sir Philander,
wala na ata e. kasi naglibot na rin ako dyan s raon e. ang natira n lang AV1800, mahina nga lang ang surround pag nasa 5.1 mode, d pa toroidal ang transformer. Even though it's Dolby Licensed. Naghahanap pa nga ako ng mapagbibilhan nun e, kasi may mga kaibigan din ako n gustong magpa-set up on a budget. As long as may on-board decoder ang dvd player mo, the Sakura AV1600 will provide you with what you need for an entry level Home Theater. Start kaya ako ng forum for a Sakura AV1600 search? he he. TC bro.

torque · « **Reply #175 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 03:53 PM »

Yakuini,Dirk_Diggler,

dami na pala tayong naka Sakura-DTX Slim combo

Dirk_Diggler · « **Reply #176 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 04:53 PM »

torque'

oo nga tsong dami na natin

pagod nga lang ako pag bili ko last sunday at ang bigat pala nitong floorstander ng dai-ichi (purchased ko sya sa GETZ @ Raon shopping center) pero pag karinig ko ng sound sa bahay... haaayyy tanggal pagod ko. hehehehe btw ano nga pala center and sorrounds gamit mo?

av_phile1 · « **Reply #177 on:** Feb 16, 2004 at 05:40 PM »

The other week, I wandered into an electronics shop here at Sucat. They sell mostly Sakura components. Almost tempted to get the Sakura AM/FM tuner for 2.4T with remote control. I wanted the Pinoeer tuner I saw at SM applaince selling for 8T pero walalng remote. Anyway, tuner lang naman, why get an expensive one. Any comment from users of a Sakura tuner?

Then I saw this huge Sakura 2-channel power amp that looks solid ala Rotel except that it has a display and is touch controllable. 250 watts daw. Selling for only 3.6T. My target is really a Rotel RMB1066 6-channel power amp costing 32T. But if this Sakura amo is any good, am tempted to get three stereo units to connect to my multi channel Rotel preamp/processor. Problem is they only have one in stock. Masarp lang pag-experimentohan. Just to compare how a cheap 250 watt Sakura would stand against a 60 watt Rotel. What do you think.

arthurallanj · « **Reply #178 on:** Feb 17, 2004 at 09:05 AM »

Quote from: Dirk_Diggler on Feb 16, 2004 at 11:55 AM

i'm also a happy owner of a sakura av amp and dtx combo maganda sya tumunog, tried it with my DMB/Bob Marley/ cd's and verry happy sa sound nya. i'm thinking kung kukuha pako ng subs (another budget sub : the DQ12 )for my system kse maliit lang yung room ko and i'm quite satisfied.

pareng dirk,
if you're on a budget, try mo kaya ang Daiichi ASW-10DR, 4250 lng, sa MosesAaron sa Raon, grabe, ang lakas, up to 300 hz pa ang freq. resp., match pa sa Sakura mo kasi 2 ch ang bass output (the 10DR has 2 ch input), sorry po sir moderator, medyo out of topic.

Yakuini · « **Reply #179 on:** Feb 17, 2004 at 09:09 AM »

Quote from: Dirk_Diggler on Feb 16, 2004 at 04:53 PM

torque'

oo nga tsong dami na natin pagod nga lang ako pag bili ko last sunday at ang bigat pala nitong floorstander ng dai-ichi (purchased ko sya sa GETZ @ Raon shopping center) pero pag karinig ko ng sound sa bahay... haaayyy tanggal pagod ko. hehehehe btw ano nga pala center and sorrounds gamit mo?

Dirkdigger, magkano pala kuha mo sa DTX Tower mo? Tnx.

DTX Center and SONY bookshelf pala ang surround ko kahit di mo tinatanong