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« Reply #150 on: May 31, 2003 at 01:28 PM »
ABS-CBN goes to Europe in Aug
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Saturday, May 31, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp., the country’s number one TV network, will launch its European operations in August, chief executive officer Eugenio L. Lopez III said at the sidelines of the company’s stockholders meeting last Thursday.

Lopez said the company is still in discussions with the satellite provider and expects talks to be finalized next month. "There are more than one million Filipinos in Europe and our plan is to launch it in August," he said.

He said while the revenue stream may not come immediately, the market has great potentials.

Apart from this, Lopez said ABS-CBN is also looking at expanding its presence in Canada given the high concentration of Filipinos in the country. "We’re hoping to get it done this year," he said.

The broadcast firm wants to make full use of the satellite it uses for its Middle East operations.

Just like in the US and Middle East, the ABS-CBN lineup will include The Filipino Channel (TFC), which shows top-raters; ABS-CBN News Channel (ANC); Cinema One, an all-movie channel; and Pinoy Central, the variety channel which has entertainment and sports features.

Lopez expects international operations to grow by 30 to 40 percent this year even as its Middle East operations are not doing well as a result of the US-led war in Iraq.

ABS Global Ltd. is the holding company which runs The Filipino Channel, ABS-CBN News Channel, Cinema One, and Pinoy Central in the US and the Middle East. It has 148,000 subscribers worldwide. The company’s sales for 2002 grew by 36 percent to P1.911 billion.

ABS Global’s contribution to ABS-CBN’s income fueled the six-percent growth in the network’s 2002 revenues. Other subsidiaries which pushed the broadcast firm’s revenues to P10.91 billion last year were Creative Programs, Inc., ABS-CBN Publishing, and Star Records

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« Reply #151 on: May 31, 2003 at 02:37 PM »
GMA Network posts 4-fold hike in April income
Philippine Star
Publish Date: [Thursday, May 29, 2003]

 
GMA Network Inc. said yesterday that its profits surged four-fold to P113 million last April, an increase of 301 percent over the previous year’s P28-million income.

GMA officials said this boosted the company’s cumulative net income for the first four months to P277 million, already exceeding its earnings for the nine-month period from January to September 2002.

With the network’s strong performance in the first four months, GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe Yalong said the broadcast firm may be able to surpass its 2003 income target of P640 million.

In April alone, GMA, which operates local Channel 7, said gross revenues grew 77 percent to P524 million as against P296 million last year.

Of the total revenues, TV sales largely contributed to the increase with revenues of P226 million. Radio sales also went up by P1 million or eight percent better than last year’s figure.

On a year-to-date basis, GMA increased its gross revenues to P1.7 billion, P694 million or 68 percent higher than the previous level.

Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) for April increased by 135 percent to P223 million from P95 million in 2002, bringing cumulative EBITDA at P620 million, 104 percent higher than the P304 million a year earlier.

Meanwhile, cash operating expenses for the period Jan. to April rose 54 percent to P736 million, due mainly to increased production cost and talent fees. Aside from the higher budgets of existing programs, new shows and increased salaries and allowances of employees also contributed to the hike in operating expenses.

GMA-7 officials also attributed the company’s stronger performance to increased ratings and audience share.

To ensure its continued growth, GMA-7 said it will continue to launch new and innovative programs particularly in the prime-time slot where it needs to further boost its ratings.

The network is even gearing up for a possible expansion in the global arena in the latter part of the year.

It will also continue strengthening its provincial coverage and its international distribution signal to attract more viewers.

GMA-7 is hoping to overtake industry leader ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. from its position by producing big-budget, high-quality soap operas and programs and offering lower prime time advertising rates.

The strategy has attracted more advertisements as advertisers jacked up their commitments by as much as 70 percent from last year. – Zinnia dela Peña

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« Reply #152 on: May 31, 2003 at 03:48 PM »
I just read ABS-CBN's annual report and they've shut down money losing subsidiaries such as ABS-CBN Consumer Products, Inc. which sells t-shirts and other merchandise and Cinemagica which runs cinemas.  2002 wasn't a very good year for them.

I can't believe that they actually reinstated Dong Puno as Senior Vice-President for News and Current Affairs. :o

BTW, For their latest issue, BizNews Asia has GMA-7 as their cover story.
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« Reply #153 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 07:13 AM »
 Yes, I know that Maynilad is not anymore with the Lopez group but kahit sila ang may control pa nito we also do not get adequate water services.Second as for Bayantel ,
  ;)In fairness mas madali magpakabit sa kanila ng line compared to PLDT it only takes a few weeks ,  :P BUT ang service nila quite poor,yung telephone line namin dito parati may sounds at kung tumatawag ka parating hindi maka-connect even if walang gumagamit ng line. We had two telephone lines before .One is PLDT and the other one is Bayantel after about 3 years we decided na ipaputol na lang ang Bayantel since hindi naman masyadong kailangan at mahirap tumawag sa line na ito.

 :D Hindi naman fair na sabihin the people here don't know anything about these companies kasi part na ito nang aming buhay.
 Kahit na under control kami ng Maynilad water ganon na talaga. Hindi ganon kagandahan ang service nila.

 ;)As for ABS-CBN consumer products dati kasama ito sa Boardwalk a direct and multi-level store and then ABS-CBN decided to open a store in Isetan Recto na tumagal lamang ng about a year or so.Sa ngayon kung gusto mo magkaroon ng mga teleserye pillows you could but in Dakki's Direct sales which specialize in Pillows and patented Warner Bro.,Dragon Ball Z etc.

 :)I wish to clarify that hindi ako anti- Lopez but hindi rin ako pro-GMA network ,and we all know who is the leading network in the country both in revenues and earnings and that is ABS-CBN.  :-*Okey!! ;D
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« Reply #154 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 02:05 PM »
Here's yet another newspaper article...


GMA-7: We earned
a 'record' P650-M in May
Posted: 10:41 PM (Manila Time) | May 31, 2003
By Leah Salterio
Inquirer News Service


GMA-7, too, set a record when it grossed 650 million pesos in revenues for May, according to its marketing president Meckoy Quioge.

"That is a 91 percent increase from our May 2002 earnings of 341million pesos," Quiogue told Inquirer Entertainment. "That's almost double what we earned in May last year."

 
The GMA-7 executive revealed this following the ABS-CBN report in its annual stockholders' meeting last Thursday that it set a record when it made one billion pesos in airtime sales for May alone.

"ABS-CBN's one billion pesos is quite big," Quioge admitted, "but that's only 27 percent of what they made in May 2002. If you relate it to the growth from the previous year, ours is more dramatic."

He said that GMA-7 has already surpassed the 500-million-peso monthly revenue mark thrice this year.

"We have set another record in sales," Quiogue said. "From January to May, our growth was already 79 percent compared to last year's."

He said GMA-7 made 1.323 billion pesos in airtime revenues from January to May 2002. For the same period this year, the network registered 3.71 billion pesos in sales.

"That's a very significant increase," Quiogue pointed out. "We're happy. ABS-CBN is doing well. We're also doing well and even better compared to last year."

He also pointed out that the network achieved the latest record without increasing its advertising rates, while ABS-CBN implemented increased rate cards in February.

He said GMA Network expects to further boost its sales with a projected rate increase by the second half of this year.

"We believe we can achieve our target without burdening the industry with an increase, although we only postponed it," Quiogue said. "We will implement our increase in July."

GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe S. Yalong expressed confidence that the network could surpass its 2002 total net income of 401million pesos in just the first five months of this year.

GMA management is very upbeat over the company's continuous and massive improvement in sales, according to Yalong.

"Previously, our revenues were only about one-third that of ABS-CBN's," Yalong said. "Now we have increased our sales to more than half their earnings in a short period. In terms of total expenses, ours are less than half their total."

GMA-7's reported revenues, according to Yalong, are from TV ads only and do not include earnings from blocktime programs, particularly from its top-rating daily noontime show, "Eat Bulaga!"

Management attributes the success to the cost efficiency of many of its programs. GMA was behind in ratings by only one percentage point in the first quarter of 2003. Based on data released by AGB Philippines as of the second quarter of 2003 covering April 1 to May 17, GMA is now tied in total day household ratings with ABS-CBN at 14 percent.

Earlier, ABS-CBN senior vice president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada told Inquirer Entertainment that its one-billion-peso gross in May brought the network's total gross so far this year to 4.1 billion pesos.

"It's a record year-to-date figure that overtook our 2002 gross sales by 23 percent," Gabunada had said. "Since ABS-CBN started operating again in 1986, this is the only time we reached one billion pesos in sales in one month."





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« Reply #155 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 02:13 PM »
The construction of ABS-CBN's new building, the ELJ Communications Center (9501), was a bad decision.  They borowed heavily to finance its construction and now its costing them so much money to maintain and operate while having a lot of unoccupied and idle office space. Thats why they're trying to attract prospective locators to lease space.

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« Reply #156 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 03:14 PM »
My wife works in ELJ. She said the floors were constructed so badly that they had a hard time networking their computers. It looked like the IT people and the construction people never talked about proper wire placements.

Here's something unusual (at least as far as the Philippines is concerned), ELJ has a 13th floor.

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« Reply #157 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 05:47 PM »
The executive dining room of Meralco is located at the 13th floor I think.
Could that 13th floor have anything to do with their current woes? ;D
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« Reply #158 on: Jun 01, 2003 at 10:34 PM »
Yes, I know that Maynilad is not anymore with the Lopez group but kahit sila ang may control pa nito we also do not get adequate water services.Second as for Bayantel ,
  ;)In fairness mas madali magpakabit sa kanila ng line compared to PLDT it only takes a few weeks ,  :P BUT ang service nila quite poor,yung telephone line namin dito parati may sounds at kung tumatawag ka parating hindi maka-connect even if walang gumagamit ng line. We had two telephone lines before .One is PLDT and the other one is Bayantel after about 3 years we decided na ipaputol na lang ang Bayantel since hindi naman masyadong kailangan at mahirap tumawag sa line na ito.

 :D Hindi naman fair na sabihin the people here don't know anything about these companies kasi part na ito nang aming buhay.
 Kahit na under control kami ng Maynilad water ganon na talaga. Hindi ganon kagandahan ang service nila.

 ;)As for ABS-CBN consumer products dati kasama ito sa Boardwalk a direct and multi-level store and then ABS-CBN decided to open a store in Isetan Recto na tumagal lamang ng about a year or so.Sa ngayon kung gusto mo magkaroon ng mga teleserye pillows you could but in Dakki's Direct sales which specialize in Pillows and patented Warner Bro.,Dragon Ball Z etc.

 :)I wish to clarify that hindi ako anti- Lopez but hindi rin ako pro-GMA network ,and we all know who is the leading network in the country both in revenues and earnings and that is ABS-CBN.  :-*Okey!! ;D

I'm not saying that at all. I’m not saying wala kang alam, I wasn’t particularly referring to you.  ;D  Maynilad was under the Lopez control for such a short time so it wouldn’t be fair na sisihin sila, on the contrary I have an uncle in Paranaque na ever since he moved in that place that was 20 years ago walang tubig after the Lopez took control of Maynilad after a year nagkaroon na ng water ang villages dun.  You can verify that or kung meron taga Paranaque dito they can confirm this.   And aren’t we forgetting, maybe you are not the one who's paying the bills but for someone who does he would know that mahigit sa kalahati ang binaba ng water bills when Maynilad assumed control of MWSS and that is very seldom mention if not at all.  We always dwell on the negative that’s why.

As for Bayantel, my brother is an Engineer once in that company the problem is not within Bayantel system nasa PLDT and problema they won't interconnect with the company infact if your buying prepaid internet service cards ganyan rin ang problema not because of the ISPs but because of PLDT ginigipit nila competition nila so lalabas na bulok ang kalaban when in fact the fault lies with PLDT.

I'm not saying na that walang fault ang mga Lopezes but more often than not ang nangyayari ay mali ang perception.  I think marami ang naninira sa mga Lopezes because they are becoming so powerful and those politicians want to control the family just like what the Marcoses did.
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« Reply #159 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 02:53 AM »
Here's yet another newspaper article...


GMA-7: We earned
a 'record' P650-M in May
Posted: 10:41 PM (Manila Time) | May 31, 2003
By Leah Salterio
Inquirer News Service


GMA-7, too, set a record when it grossed 650 million pesos in revenues for May, according to its marketing president Meckoy Quioge.

"That is a 91 percent increase from our May 2002 earnings of 341million pesos," Quiogue told Inquirer Entertainment. "That's almost double what we earned in May last year."

 
The GMA-7 executive revealed this following the ABS-CBN report in its annual stockholders' meeting last Thursday that it set a record when it made one billion pesos in airtime sales for May alone.

"ABS-CBN's one billion pesos is quite big," Quioge admitted, "but that's only 27 percent of what they made in May 2002. If you relate it to the growth from the previous year, ours is more dramatic."

He said that GMA-7 has already surpassed the 500-million-peso monthly revenue mark thrice this year.

"We have set another record in sales," Quiogue said. "From January to May, our growth was already 79 percent compared to last year's."

He said GMA-7 made 1.323 billion pesos in airtime revenues from January to May 2002. For the same period this year, the network registered 3.71 billion pesos in sales.

"That's a very significant increase," Quiogue pointed out. "We're happy. ABS-CBN is doing well. We're also doing well and even better compared to last year."

He also pointed out that the network achieved the latest record without increasing its advertising rates, while ABS-CBN implemented increased rate cards in February.

He said GMA Network expects to further boost its sales with a projected rate increase by the second half of this year.

"We believe we can achieve our target without burdening the industry with an increase, although we only postponed it," Quiogue said. "We will implement our increase in July."

GMA senior vice president for corporate services Felipe S. Yalong expressed confidence that the network could surpass its 2002 total net income of 401million pesos in just the first five months of this year.

GMA management is very upbeat over the company's continuous and massive improvement in sales, according to Yalong.

"Previously, our revenues were only about one-third that of ABS-CBN's," Yalong said. "Now we have increased our sales to more than half their earnings in a short period. In terms of total expenses, ours are less than half their total."

GMA-7's reported revenues, according to Yalong, are from TV ads only and do not include earnings from blocktime programs, particularly from its top-rating daily noontime show, "Eat Bulaga!"

Management attributes the success to the cost efficiency of many of its programs. GMA was behind in ratings by only one percentage point in the first quarter of 2003. Based on data released by AGB Philippines as of the second quarter of 2003 covering April 1 to May 17, GMA is now tied in total day household ratings with ABS-CBN at 14 percent.

Earlier, ABS-CBN senior vice president for integrated sales and marketing Nicanor Gabunada told Inquirer Entertainment that its one-billion-peso gross in May brought the network's total gross so far this year to 4.1 billion pesos.

"It's a record year-to-date figure that overtook our 2002 gross sales by 23 percent," Gabunada had said. "Since ABS-CBN started operating again in 1986, this is the only time we reached one billion pesos in sales in one month."


i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D

also... what's the deal with who made more money than what???... i think instead of spending full page ads on announcing how much more money they made than their competitors... these people should be concentrating on giving their viewers better shows and improve their exisiting ones.  :P

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« Reply #160 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 10:38 AM »
i never liked gma... i don't know why but  there always seems to be something cheap lingering about the station... ;D


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« Reply #161 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 02:35 PM »
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D

also... what's the deal with who made more money than what???... i think instead of spending full page ads on announcing how much more money they made than their competitors... these people should be concentrating on giving their viewers better shows and improve their exisiting ones.  :P


Mr. Quioge used to be with ABS-CBN pre-martial law days pa and rejoined the company when it reopened.  I think he and his family also used to own the frequency of Channel 23 which ABS-CBN bought from him, then he was appointed to manage Studio 23.  Nag retire siya then GMA hired him.

The reason why both stations often issue press releases specially GMA about their financial gains is because these station are and will be public.  In the case of GMA matagal na itong station na ito na nag-aaply sa PSE to go public or be listed on the stock exchange, but their application are always refused by PSE because to be able to be listed, the company are required to have a cetain amount of profit in a minimum of 3 years I think.  

One more thing why they are always harping about their increasing profit is to have favorable image for investors engage in the Stock Exchange.
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« Reply #162 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:00 PM »
oh, i know all about his long relatioship with the lopezes. so he retired pala. hmmmmm. (he he he. come on... if he really had any intention of retiring, why would he work for the competition instead of spending his time enjoying his "retirement"? he must've been offered a really sweet retirement  package. ;D i've met him and he's actually quite nice and friendly. i was really very surprised a couple of years ago to discover his sudden shift to GMA. and until you mentioned it, i didn't know the circumstances about it.   :o)

ok. ur right there ... they are public corporations and have stocks to sell... but don't you think taking up a whole page and such is a bit of an overkill? (maybe it's just me... but i think their efforts in one upping each other is perhaps better focused on improving their programming)  ::)

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« Reply #163 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:09 PM »

As for Bayantel, my brother is an Engineer once in that company the problem is not within Bayantel system nasa PLDT and problema they won't interconnect with the company infact if your buying prepaid internet service cards ganyan rin ang problema not because of the ISPs but because of PLDT ginigipit nila competition nila so lalabas na bulok ang kalaban when in fact the fault lies with PLDT.



Mr. Big Boy,

Just to clarify di namin ginigipit ang mga taga bayantel and other ISP'S..its their back up batteries na may problema kaya nawawala din telepono ng BAYANTEL  pag brown out.Tsaka since FVR era.. open na yung telecom BUSINESS..di na pwede monopoly kaya sa ayaw at sa gusto ng PLDT..Makikipag interconnect sila sa other telcos...bibigyan ng slots to connect. Do you have proof na di namin pinapayagan maka konekta ang ibang telcos sa PLDT?

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« Reply #164 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:12 PM »
Actually nagulat nga rin ako ng nalaman ko about Mr. Quioge, na meet ko na rin siya sa school dati.  I was surprised na he accepted a post in GMA tubong ABS-CBN yan eh pati mga anak at relatives niya is working for the station.

About his retirement ang alam ko kasi there is a rule in the company's constition na bawal mag extend o mag-postponed ng retirement kahit na gaano kagaling.  Just like sa case ni FMG magaling siya pero he has no choice but to retire siguro kunin na lang siyang consultant ng ABS-CBN.

Sa paglipat ni Mr. Quioge magagaya ng GMA ang corporate, organizational and operational structure ng ABS-CBN ganyan na nga ang nangyayari ngayon.

About dun sa press releases nila I agree over kill pero I thing only GMA is guilty of this one.  Grabe mag pa praise release GMA araw-araw meron silang praise releases pati mga executives nila may mga praise article pati awards may write-ups nakakasuka na yang kayabangan ng GMA.  ;D

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« Reply #165 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:18 PM »
Mr. Big Boy,

Just to clarify di namin ginigipit ang mga taga bayantel and other ISP'S..its their back up batteries na may problema kaya nawawala din telepono ng BAYANTEL  pag brown out.Tsaka since FVR era.. open na yung telecom BUSINESS..di na pwede monopoly kaya sa ayaw at sa gusto ng PLDT..Makikipag interconnect sila sa other telcos...bibigyan ng slots to connect. Do you have proof na di namin pinapayagan maka konekta ang ibang telcos sa PLDT?

I know about the back-up batteries problema rin yun but that is not what the majority of customers are complaining minsan lang naman mag-brownout.  Ang complain centered on connectivity ang hirap comontact sa PLDT lines infact pati sa Eastern Lines and Globe Lines ganyan rin ang problema hirap comontact sa PLDT.

Di naman ako maniniwala lahat ng telcos na ito ang may kasalanan eh sa PLDT lang naman ang mahirap comonnect.

Same goes with the various ISP's infact the organization of ISPs have filed a petition to NTC about sa panggigipit ng PLDT.  I cant accept that all this ISPs and TelCos are wrong and PLDT is right.

About the standing executive order that all telcos must interconnect, I think you know better than to believe that hindi pwedeng magpalusot ang PLDT I know I have friends and a brother who are directly involve with interconnecting with PLDT.  Dami nilang palusot.
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« Reply #166 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:33 PM »
Ang complain centered on connectivity ang hirap comontact sa PLDT lines infact pati sa Eastern Lines and Globe Lines ganyan rin ang problema hirap comontact sa PLDT.

Di naman ako maniniwala lahat ng telcos na ito ang may kasalanan eh sa PLDT lang naman ang mahirap comonnect.

About the standing executive order that all telcos must interconnect, I think you know better than to believe that maraming pwedeng palusot ang PLDT I know I have friends and a brother who are directly involve with interconnecting with PLDT.  Dami nilang palusot.

24 Hours bang mahirap kumonekta sa PLDT? or certain time lang? Regarding sa interconnection... di kasalanan ng PLDT yun kung madaming subscriber ang globe,ETPI etc. ang nahihirapan kumonekta dahil depende kung ang ciruits lang na kinuha ng mga telcos na yun SA pldt ay di enough para sa subscriber nila...bayantel and other telcos leased certain number of circuits sa PLDT para makapag interconnect..nagbibigay lang kami ng Circuits kaya di na namin kasalanan kung di pa rin maka konekta yung ibang telcos sa PLDT sa kadahilanang konting circuits lang ang kinuha nila...in fact mas pabor din sa PLDT kung mas madaming kumukuha ng circuits sa amin kasi mas malaki ang kita...dun na lang pinapadaan yung mga nagpapaputol na subs ng PLDT.


Mods sorry out of the topic na yung usapan... ;)
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« Reply #167 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:39 PM »
24 Hours bang mahirap kumonekta sa PLDT? or certain time lang? Regarding sa interconnection... di kasalanan ng PLDT yun kung madaming subscriber ang globe,ETPI etc. ang nahihirapan kumonekta dahil depende kung ang ciruits lang na kinuha ng mga telcos na yun SA pldt ay di enough para sa subscriber nila...bayantel and other telcos leased certain number of circuits sa PLDT para makapag interconnect..nagbibigay lang kami ng Circuits kaya di na namin kasalanan kung di pa rin maka konekta yung ibang telcos sa PLDT sa kadahilanang konting circuits lang ang kinuha nila...in fact mas pabor din sa PLDT kung mas madaming kumukuha ng circuits sa amin kasi mas malaki ang kita...dun na lang pinapadaan yung mga nagpapaputol na subs ng PLDT.


Well that's one of the problem, the lease of these circuits and lines are unreasonably high.  There was a time na pinutulan pa ng PLDT ng connection ang BayanTel because of that syndicates that are reselling lease lines thru BayanTel kaya mas lalong sumama ang service ng BayanTel.  There are a hundreds of reasons pa pero its too technical and I'm not an engineer so I can't accurately explain what the engineers have told me.  

Anyway as I have said I'm more inclined to believe these small companies when they say they are being taken advantage of and ginigpit by PLDT than to believe PLDT.  The majority can't be wrong all the time.

BTW I have both PLDT and BayanTel lines ang hirap rin tumawag sa BayanTel using PLDT same situation rin when calling Eastern from PLDT.  But when I call Eastern or Globe Thru my BayanTel phone wala naman problema. 1 plus 1 makes 2 right?

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« Reply #168 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:53 PM »


Anyway as I have said I'm more inclined to believe these small companies when they say they are being taken advantage of and ginigpit by PLDT than to believe PLDT.  The majority can't be wrong all the time.


ANd vice versa..majority cant be right all the time too  ;) peace

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« Reply #169 on: Jun 02, 2003 at 03:55 PM »
Hehehe... nahuli mo ko dun ah.

P.S. May job opening ba sa PLDT ngayon?  Apply kaya ako.

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« Reply #170 on: Jun 03, 2003 at 09:16 AM »
 :o Yes, GMA had increase its airtime revenues but ABS-CBA still had a bigger airtime revenues than GMA.

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« Reply #171 on: Jun 04, 2003 at 12:11 PM »
ABS-CBN to elevate cable channeling issue to SC if NTC rule is unfavorable
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Monday, June 02, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. said it would not hesitate to elevate its case to the Supreme Court should the National Telecommunications Commission insist that its cable television firm SkyCable Central CATV Inc. violated rules when it changed the channel assignment of GMA Network Inc. from channel 12 to channel 14.

ABS-CBN chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez said cable operators have their own prerogative to decide on which channel it wants to carry a particular TV broadcasting network.

"That is the key issue between the KBP (Kapisanan ng Brodkasters sa Pilipinas and the PCTA (Philippine Cable Television Association) because KBP wants those channels where they are on free TV. The PCTA, on the other hand, says it is the right of cable operators to decide what channels and where to carry it," Lopez said.

"So that is an issue that would go all the way to the Supreme Court because it’s not an issue that the PCTA would accede to because it is a critical question in terms of growth. We don’t have to ask anyone for permission," Lopez said.

Lopez has also assailed the NTC for unjustly intervening in the row between GMA and ABS-CBN or SkyCable. "Why will our marketing strategy be subject to the approval of the regulator when all along, fundamentally, the direction of the government is let the free markets operate. If the NTC wants to interfere, the least they can do is to hold a public hearing and hear the comments of the cable operators before they decide on an issue which is more significant than simply the view of one free TV operator," he said.

"In America, the cable operators reserve the right to put the channels wherever they seize it, because for a pay-TV service, where you put the channel is the most significant marketing opportunity you have," Lopez further said.

SkyCable earlier asked the NTC to reconsider its recent ruling that the company violated NTC circular no. 04-88-88 which requires cable TV operators to carry the broadcast channels on their channel of transmission (i.e.GMA 7- on channel 7).

SkyCAble said compelling cable TV operators to carry the TV networks on the same channel number at which it is transmitting would result in serious technical, financial and business repurcussions.

Doing so would require massive investment not only in the form of equipment but also manpower and other incidental expenses, which will seriously, financial and businesswise, hurt the respondent and ultimately redound to the prejudice of its subsribers. SkyCable said.

GMA-7 legal counsel Roberto Rafael Lucila of the Belo Gozon Elma Parel Asuncion & Lucila law offices, said the country’s TV network expects the NTC to implement the decision on the re-channeling case soon to comply with the agency’s rules and regulations. "There is simply no credible reason why the decision of the NTC and its rules and regulations should not be followed by the three cable companies. SkyCable and its affiliates can not just simply ignore the fact that they applied for their respective authority to operate and have operated for the past 10 years under the same rules and regulations. They must therefore respect the NTC decision," Lucila said.

Lucila said GMA-7’s complaint for unfair competition against ABS-CBN Corp. has already been served and they expect the Lopez controlled network to answer the complaint within 15 days from receipt.

He said the NTC has also issued summons to SkyCable, Philippine Home Cable Holdings, and Pilipino Cable Corp. to answer the complaint for monopoly, signal distortion and degradation, as well as unlawful cross-ownership, within the same period of 15 days. The hearing, he said, was set on July 1, 2003.

In its complaint filed with the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, GMA-7 is seeking payment for damages worth about P12 million from the three cable operators as compension for "acts of unfair competition, corporate combinations and manipulations as well as unjust, oppressive, high-handed and unlawful business practices."

GMA-7 said the transfer of its signal to channel 14 from the original channel 12 in the cable firms’ system was done "without notice to the viewing public, the NTC and the plaintiff.

This rechanneling allegedly caused "disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA-7’s TV shows and resulted in the distortion and degradation of quality.

Because of this alleged signal degradation, GMA-7 claimed that the ratings of its shows were affected as the signal were usually being done during the airing of the network’s top-rating shows.

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« Reply #172 on: Jun 04, 2003 at 01:34 PM »
 ::)This is just the start of the long uphill battle. Well,cable television only accounts to a very small percentage of the entire t.v. audience share.

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« Reply #173 on: Jun 06, 2003 at 12:23 AM »
i was smiling while i read this article... knowing, of course the irony that mr. quioge was part of abs-cbn management less than 3 years ago.  ;D


and Mr Yalung, and Mr Dexter, and Mr Remulla

all coming from ABS CBN (post 1986)

Ganyan talaga buhay, one day you work for PLDT,  then next, your are pirated by Globe and finally nasa Sun Cellular ka.

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« Reply #174 on: Jun 06, 2003 at 09:30 PM »
It turns out Mr. Yalung, GMA 7's chief finance officer, was the one who oversaw ABS-CBN's public offering in 1992.

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« Reply #175 on: Jun 07, 2003 at 09:51 PM »
I think he and his family also used to own the frequency of Channel 23 which ABS-CBN bought from him, then he was appointed to manage Studio 23.  Nag retire siya then GMA hired him.


Studio 23 and its frequency was part of AMCARA Broadcast Network owned by Cady Carandang, one of the pioneer engineers of ABS CBN. ABS CBN bought into the said company obtaining management control.

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« Reply #176 on: Jun 07, 2003 at 09:58 PM »
ABS-CBN to elevate cable channeling issue to SC if NTC rule is unfavorable
By Zinnia B. Dela Peña
Publish Date: [Monday, June 02, 2003]

 
ABS-CBN Broadcasting Corp. said it would not hesitate to elevate its case to the Supreme Court should the National Telecommunications Commission insist that its cable television firm SkyCable Central CATV Inc. violated rules when it changed the channel assignment of GMA Network Inc. from channel 12 to channel 14.

ABS-CBN chief executive officer Eugenio "Gabby" Lopez said cable operators have their own prerogative to decide on which channel it wants to carry a particular TV broadcasting network.

"That is the key issue between the KBP (Kapisanan ng Brodkasters sa Pilipinas and the PCTA (Philippine Cable Television Association) because KBP wants those channels where they are on free TV. The PCTA, on the other hand, says it is the right of cable operators to decide what channels and where to carry it," Lopez said.

"So that is an issue that would go all the way to the Supreme Court because it’s not an issue that the PCTA would accede to because it is a critical question in terms of growth. We don’t have to ask anyone for permission," Lopez said.

Lopez has also assailed the NTC for unjustly intervening in the row between GMA and ABS-CBN or SkyCable. "Why will our marketing strategy be subject to the approval of the regulator when all along, fundamentally, the direction of the government is let the free markets operate. If the NTC wants to interfere, the least they can do is to hold a public hearing and hear the comments of the cable operators before they decide on an issue which is more significant than simply the view of one free TV operator," he said.

"In America, the cable operators reserve the right to put the channels wherever they seize it, because for a pay-TV service, where you put the channel is the most significant marketing opportunity you have," Lopez further said.

SkyCable earlier asked the NTC to reconsider its recent ruling that the company violated NTC circular no. 04-88-88 which requires cable TV operators to carry the broadcast channels on their channel of transmission (i.e.GMA 7- on channel 7).

SkyCAble said compelling cable TV operators to carry the TV networks on the same channel number at which it is transmitting would result in serious technical, financial and business repurcussions.

Doing so would require massive investment not only in the form of equipment but also manpower and other incidental expenses, which will seriously, financial and businesswise, hurt the respondent and ultimately redound to the prejudice of its subsribers. SkyCable said.

GMA-7 legal counsel Roberto Rafael Lucila of the Belo Gozon Elma Parel Asuncion & Lucila law offices, said the country’s TV network expects the NTC to implement the decision on the re-channeling case soon to comply with the agency’s rules and regulations. "There is simply no credible reason why the decision of the NTC and its rules and regulations should not be followed by the three cable companies. SkyCable and its affiliates can not just simply ignore the fact that they applied for their respective authority to operate and have operated for the past 10 years under the same rules and regulations. They must therefore respect the NTC decision," Lucila said.

Lucila said GMA-7’s complaint for unfair competition against ABS-CBN Corp. has already been served and they expect the Lopez controlled network to answer the complaint within 15 days from receipt.

He said the NTC has also issued summons to SkyCable, Philippine Home Cable Holdings, and Pilipino Cable Corp. to answer the complaint for monopoly, signal distortion and degradation, as well as unlawful cross-ownership, within the same period of 15 days. The hearing, he said, was set on July 1, 2003.

In its complaint filed with the Quezon City Regional Trial Court, GMA-7 is seeking payment for damages worth about P12 million from the three cable operators as compension for "acts of unfair competition, corporate combinations and manipulations as well as unjust, oppressive, high-handed and unlawful business practices."

GMA-7 said the transfer of its signal to channel 14 from the original channel 12 in the cable firms’ system was done "without notice to the viewing public, the NTC and the plaintiff.

This rechanneling allegedly caused "disruption and confusion among the viewers of GMA-7’s TV shows and resulted in the distortion and degradation of quality.

Because of this alleged signal degradation, GMA-7 claimed that the ratings of its shows were affected as the signal were usually being done during the airing of the network’s top-rating shows.


Don't you think this should also be posted on the other thread (GMA hits SkyCable)  ;)

Also, I feel most uncomfortable to read that Sky is the cable tv firm of ABS CBN. Yes, there may be common ownership but Sky/Central/Beyond is under the corporate umbrella of Benpres/Lopez Inc, having their own shareholders distinct from that of ABS CBN!

During my days in Sky, I was never answerable to any people from ABS!

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« Reply #177 on: Jun 08, 2003 at 12:05 AM »
ABS-CBN is right. Why should they be compeled to carry GMA-7? After all SkyCable's there and they should do with it as they please. If they don't want to carry there rival so be it. Let the subscribers decide whether to support there decision through there wallets. It's like that Star TV brooohaha where in content providers are compeled to service everyone irregardless of the fact that it'll be profitable for them or not.

If I was GMA-7 I'd buy a cable company (Destiny) and compete instead of suing ABS-CBN. Talo lang yung viewer as they're each spending money to convict and defend themselves.

I find this very retarded. Oh God... take me away from this stupidity...

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« Reply #178 on: Jun 08, 2003 at 12:39 AM »
Wouldnt it be stupid to remove GMA7 from Sky or any cable company's channel set-up?
I mean, I dont think ABS will be so full of it to deny their subscribers a channel(7) that Im sure theyve grown accustomed to watching, aside from Dos.
Hassle pa sa subscribers kung kailangan maglagay pa sila ng splitter or kalasin pa nila yung antenna sa TV para lang makita kung ano palabas sa 7.
I think mas may kaso pa yung right ng Sky to assign channel 7(12) to another channel, than removing 7 altogether.
Medyo nalalabuan na rin ako, a? ???

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« Reply #179 on: Jun 08, 2003 at 11:12 AM »
A bit OT, but is "televiewer" a Pinoy coined term???