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Onkyo606 · « **Reply #5220 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 11:17 AM »

Quote from: wacksy1021 on Jun 11, 2011 at 06:40 AM

top 10 unstoppable moves in the NBA (not in any particular order)

1. Jabbar's Skyhook
2. MJ's fadeaway jumper
3. Hakeem's Dreamshake
4. Bird's 3 point shot
5. Shaq's spin and pivot moves
6. Dirk's 1 legged jumper
7. Tim Hardaway's crossover
8. Allen Iverson's floater
9. Tim Duncan's bank shot
10. Kobe's Dagger (Just don't know what to call his last second heroics, just got to put him here)

Would love to put Wade here but he just has no signiture shot, he is great though and his it's his tenacity in game is what really stands out...

Anybody I left out?

LBJ's vanishing act in the 4th quarter, nobody can stop it from happenning until n ow

geckoph · « **Reply #5221 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 11:34 AM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on Jun 11, 2011 at 11:17 AM

LBJ's vanishing act in the 4th quarter, nobody can stop it from happenning until n ow

Like ...

Let's Go Heat! Beat the Mavs!

brainwashed · « **Reply #5222 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 11:57 AM »

♫♫ LEBRON LEBRON SINTA, BUKO ANG PAGBENTA
DALA DALANG BOLA, BINIBITAWAN NYA
PAGDATING SA DULO, IPAPAAGAW PA
KAPOS NA ANG TIRA PAPASA SA IBA...♫♫

oweidah · « **Reply #5223 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 02:57 PM »

Quote from: pekspert on Jun 11, 2011 at 06:52 AM

Sa monday (phil time) na katapusan ng heat

May trabaho pa kaya si Spoelstra next season?

Kaya lang ako maka-dallas kasi naaawa ako kay jason kidd at nowitzki. But i hate mark cuban.

sino kaya gagawin escapegoat pag natalo sa game6? mafia? pinagbigyan tanders?
maganda nilalaro ni dwade. ok naman lari ni cbosh. hmmmmm

vortex1 · « **Reply #5224 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 04:41 PM »

pag nagchampion naman... "di pwede magsama 3 superstars. dapat baguhin ni Commissioner Stern yung rules."

TOY 01 · « **Reply #5225 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 06:27 PM »

Lebron & Wade mock Dirk

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286

jhelenz · « **Reply #5226 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 07:52 PM »

Quote from: TOY 01 on Jun 11, 2011 at 06:27 PM

Lebron & Wade mock Dirk

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286

saw that vid,makes me think what dirk did to them (except beat them) that merits this,i mean i would understand if it was stevenson or terry they are mocking.but dirk?he's always been down to earth during interviews and why do this to the best player of the opposing team,this is what other team do against mj during finals and it was'nt a very smart move for the oposing team.they just gave another motivation for dirk to play his best come game 6.
i wonder if the mavs will do the same and mock wade and his hip injury?

T33K0Y · « **Reply #5227 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 10:31 PM »

Quote from: jhelenz on Jun 11, 2011 at 07:52 PM

saw that vid,makes me think what dirk did to them (except beat them) that merits this,i mean i would understand if it was stevenson or terry they are mocking.but dirk?he's always been down to earth during interviews and why do this to the best player of the opposing team,this is what other team do against mj during finals and it was'nt a very smart move for the oposing team.they just gave another motivation for dirk to play his best come game 6.
i wonder if the mavs will do the same and mock wade and his hip injury?

+1

Yayabang kasi talaga.. Ganyang-ganyan ang nakakarma e.

Really hope tapusin na ng Mavs ang Heat sa game 6. Para tanggal na ngas-ngas ng big 3 ng heat na yan.

geckoph · « **Reply #5228 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM »

Let's Go Heat! Beat the Mavs!

pao625™ · « **Reply #5229 on:** Jun 11, 2011 at 10:47 PM »

Quote from: geckoph on Jun 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Let's Go Heat! Beat the Mavs!

Yes!!! Go HEAT!!! 2 wins to go!!!!

pao9307 · « **Reply #5230 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 05:22 AM »

what are the odds this goes to a game 7?

vortex1 · « **Reply #5231 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 05:43 AM »

not an optimist but based on their performance on games 1 and 2 wherein they can dominate and given that it's their homecourt advantage, there's a big chance that it can go to game 7. but hey, lakers just did it last year. who knows!

pao9307 · « **Reply #5232 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 06:10 AM »

pero id rather the mavs finish it in 6.

Wiggum · « **Reply #5233 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 06:48 AM »

Quote from: pao9307 on Jun 12, 2011 at 05:22 AM

what are the odds this goes to a game 7?

Based on this REPORT:

* Since the NBA adopted the 2-3-2 format for the Finals in 1985, the home team had to play a Game 6 with a 2-3 deficit 7 times out of 27.

* Out of those 7 times, the road team finished the series in Game 6 four times: 1985 Lakers, 1993 and 1998 Bulls and the 2006 Heat.

* The three remaining times the Finals went the distance, the home team won all three: 1988 and 2010 Lakers and 1994 Rockets.

What all this means to me: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because I want Dallas to win tomorrow.

But seriously, Dallas has to finish this tomorrow. A Game 7 heavily favors Miami.

pao9307 · « **Reply #5234 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 07:02 AM »

What all this means to me: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING because I want Dallas to win tomorrow.

But seriously, Dallas has to finish this tomorrow. A Game 7 heavily favors Miami.

^^

couldn't agree with you more bro.

ayosbathere · « **Reply #5235 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 07:19 AM »

Quote from: vortex1 on Jun 12, 2011 at 05:43 AM

not an optimist but based on their performance on games 1 and 2 wherein they can dominate and given that it's their homecourt advantage, there's a big chance that it can go to game 7. but hey, lakers just did it last year. who knows!

Yup that is Lakers

Tomorrow in 4qtr it will tell the whole world if there's a game7.

jhelenz · « **Reply #5236 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:08 AM »

the mavs should dominate from start to finish.no more of that come from behind thing,mahirap kung magkaroon ng confidence ang heat sa homecourt nila.
GO MAVS!

pao9307 · « **Reply #5237 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:10 AM »

Quote from: jhelenz on Jun 12, 2011 at 08:08 AM

the mavs should dominate from start to finish.no more of that come from behind thing,mahirap kung magkaroon ng confidence ang heat sa homecourt nila.
GO MAVS!

saka naniniwala na tayo na kayang kaya nila humabol.pati miami alam na nila yun.

hit em hard,fast,and early!

GO MAVS!

rusty · « **Reply #5238 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:21 AM »

Today's crunch-time best vs. Air Jordan

Who is the best crunch-time player, the NBA's ultimate closer?

World peace may be simpler to solve.

The assumption has long been that among active players it's Kobe Bryant -- but that story's on thin ice, as Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James (at least, a series ago) and Dwyane Wade have driven the conversation lately.

And the one real core assumption underlying everything is that nobody, and I mean nobody, can match Michael Jordan's record.

Now that we're knee-deep in the information age, a new question looms: How, exactly, did Jordan do, and how does that compare to today's players?

Michael Jordan was 9-of-18 over his career, and the league as a whole shoots 27.8 percent with the game on the line. How do today's players stack up on shots taken when trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of playoff games since 1996-97 with a minimum of three makes? (*Represents players who also played before 1996-1997 -- so the numbers below reflect partial careers.) From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information and NBA StatsCube.

ESPN's Alok Pattani compiled an exhaustive list of Michael Jordan's career potential go-ahead or game-tying field goal attempts in final 24 seconds of fourth quarter or overtime in the playoffs:

1. Made go-ahead 2
First round vs. Bucks, Game 3, April 24, 1985
With the Bulls trailing 107-106, Jordan hit the eventual game-winning jumper from the corner with 22 seconds left. The Bulls won 109-107.

2. Missed go-ahead 2
First round at Celtics, Game 2, April 20, 1986
With the score tied at 125 late in the fist overtime, Jordan misses a 15-footer with three seconds left. The Bulls would go on to lose the game in double overtime, 135-131, despite Jordan's NBA playoff-record 63 points.

3. Missed go-ahead 2
First round vs. Cavaliers, Game 4, May 5, 1989
With the score tied at 99, Jordan missed a fadeaway jumper from the baseline in the last second of regulation. The Bulls would go on to lose the game in overtime, 108-105.

4. and 5. Two made go-ahead 2s
First round at Cavaliers, Game 5, May 7, 1989
With the Bulls trailing 98-97 late, Jordan hits a 12-footer from the right side to give the Bulls a one-point lead with six seconds remaining. After Craig Ehlo hit a layup with three seconds left to put the Cavaliers ahead once again, Jordan hit "the Shot" -- a jumper from the free throw line over Ehlo at the buzzer -- to give the Bulls a 101-100 win and the series.

6. Made go-ahead 2
Conference finals Game 3 vs. Pistons, May 27, 1989 (makes go-ahead 2-pointer)
With the game tied at 97, Jordan sailed down the right side of the lane before pulling-up for a jumper with about three seconds left to give the Bulls the lead in a game the Bulls won by two.

7. Missed go-ahead 2
NBA Finals Game 1 vs. Lakers, June 2, 1991
With the Bulls trailing 92-91 with 9 seconds left, Jordan took a pass near midcourt, drove towards the basket, and then pulled up for an 18-foot jumper that missed with about 3 seconds left. Lakers won 93-91.

8. Made game-tying 2
NBA Finals Game 3 at Lakers, June 5, 1991
With the Bulls trailing 92-90, Jordan went coast to coast and dropped in a 12-footer with 3.4 seconds left send the game into overtime. The Bulls went on to win 104-96.

9. Missed go-ahead 2
NBA Finals Game 2 vs Trail Blazers, June 5, 1992
With the game tied at 97, Jordan had a chance to win it with two seconds left but his jumper over Terry Porter banged off the back of the rim. The Blazers went on to win 115-104 in overtime.

10. Made go-ahead 2
Second round Game 4 at Cavaliers, May 17, 1993
With the score tied at 101, Jordan made an 18-foot fadeaway jumper over Gerald Wilkins at the final buzzer to give the Bulls a 103-101 victory.

11 and 12. Made game-tying 3, missed go-ahead 3
Second round Game 3 at Knicks, May 11, 1996
With the Bulls trailing 88-85, Jordan hit a 3-pointer over Derek Harper with 19.4 seconds left. With the score tied at 88, Jordan then tried to gather an errant inbounds pass and threw up a wild hook shot while falling out of bounds well behind the 3-point line. He missed and the Bulls would go on to lose in overtime 102-99.

13. Missed go-ahead 2
First round Game 3 at Bullets, April 30, 1997
With the Bulls trailing 95-94 with about 11 seconds left in the fourth, Jordan had his shot blocked by Tracy Murray. (It appeared Jordan lost the ball on the way up, but he was credited with a shot attempt nonetheless.) The ball bounced out to Scottie Pippen, who took the rebound in for a go-ahead "and one" dunk with seven seconds remaining. Though Pippen missed the ensuing free throw, the Bulls held on to win 96-95.

14. Made go-ahead 2
Finals Game 1 vs. Jazz, June 1, 1997
After Karl Malone missed two free throws with nine seconds left in the fourth quarter and the score tied at 82, Jordan hit a 20-foot jumper over Bryon Russell at the buzzer to give the Bulls an 84-82 win.

15. Missed game-tying 3
Finals Game 4 at Jazz, June 8, 1997
With the Bulls trailing 76-73, Jordan’s 3-point attempt bounced in and out with nine seconds left. The Bulls went on to lose 78-73.

16. Missed go-ahead 3
Conference Finals Game 4 at Pacers, May 25, 1998
With the Bulls down 2 and 0.7 seconds left on the clock, Jordan caught an inbounds pass and shot a 3-pointer that rolled around and out at the buzzer. The Bulls lost 96-94.

17. Missed go-ahead 3
Finals Game 5 vs. Jazz, June 12, 1998
Trailing by two with 0.8 seconds left, Jordan caught an inbounds pass and launched a fallaway desperation 3 that missed everything at the buzzer. The Bulls lost by a final score of 83-81.

18. Made go-ahead 2
Finals Game 6 at Jazz, June 14, 1998
With the Bulls trailing 86-85 late in the fourth, Jordan drove right, crossed over at the top of the key, gave the stumbling Bryon Russell an extra little push, and hit the game-winning jumper with 5.2 seconds left. This shot -- Jordan’s famous “Last Shot” with the Bulls -- would provide the final score in Chicago’s 87-86 victory.

Link to the entire article:
http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/29844/todays-crunch-time-best-vs-air-jordan

jhelenz · « **Reply #5239 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:32 AM »

Quote from: TOY 01 on Jun 11, 2011 at 06:27 PM

Lebron & Wade mock Dirk

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba/news/story?id=6648286

they got it all wrong,first of all they are not coughing,they are CHOKING!lol

anya618 · « **Reply #5240 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:59 AM »

Dirk Nowitzki calls mocking incident ‘childish’

http://sports.inquirer.net/4896/dirk-nowitzki-calls-mocking-incident-%E2%80%98childish%E2%80%99

Munskie · « **Reply #5241 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 09:18 AM »

Quote from: rusty on Jun 12, 2011 at 08:21 AM

Today's crunch-time best vs. Air Jordan

Who is the best crunch-time player, the NBA's ultimate closer?

World peace may be simpler to solve.

The assumption has long been that among active players it's Kobe Bryant -- but that story's on thin ice, as Dirk Nowitzki, LeBron James (at least, a series ago) and Dwyane Wade have driven the conversation lately.

And the one real core assumption underlying everything is that nobody, and I mean nobody, can match Michael Jordan's record.

Now that we're knee-deep in the information age, a new question looms: How, exactly, did Jordan do, and how does that compare to today's players?

Michael Jordan was 9-of-18 over his career, and the league as a whole shoots 27.8 percent with the game on the line. How do today's players stack up on shots taken when trailing by one or two points, or tied, in the final 24 seconds of playoff games since 1996-97 with a minimum of three makes? (*Represents players who also played before 1996-1997 -- so the numbers below reflect partial careers.) From Alok Pattani of ESPN Stats & Information and NBA StatsCube.

ESPN's Alok Pattani compiled an exhaustive list of Michael Jordan's career potential go-ahead or game-tying field goal attempts in final 24 seconds of fourth quarter or overtime in the playoffs:

1. Made go-ahead 2
First round vs. Bucks, Game 3, April 24, 1985
With the Bulls trailing 107-106, Jordan hit the eventual game-winning jumper from the corner with 22 seconds left. The Bulls won 109-107.

2. Missed go-ahead 2
First round at Celtics, Game 2, April 20, 1986
With the score tied at 125 late in the fist overtime, Jordan misses a 15-footer with three seconds left. The Bulls would go on to lose the game in double overtime, 135-131, despite Jordan's NBA playoff-record 63 points.

3. Missed go-ahead 2
First round vs. Cavaliers, Game 4, May 5, 1989
With the score tied at 99, Jordan missed a fadeaway jumper from the baseline in the last second of regulation. The Bulls would go on to lose the game in overtime, 108-105.

4. and 5. Two made go-ahead 2s
First round at Cavaliers, Game 5, May 7, 1989
With the Bulls trailing 98-97 late, Jordan hits a 12-footer from the right side to give the Bulls a one-point lead with six seconds remaining. After Craig Ehlo hit a layup with three seconds left to put the Cavaliers ahead once again, Jordan hit "the Shot" -- a jumper from the free throw line over Ehlo at the buzzer -- to give the Bulls a 101-100 win and the series.

6. Made go-ahead 2
Conference finals Game 3 vs. Pistons, May 27, 1989 (makes go-ahead 2-pointer)
With the game tied at 97, Jordan sailed down the right side of the lane before pulling-up for a jumper with about three seconds left to give the Bulls the lead in a game the Bulls won by two.

7. Missed go-ahead 2
NBA Finals Game 1 vs. Lakers, June 2, 1991
With the Bulls trailing 92-91 with 9 seconds left, Jordan took a pass near midcourt, drove towards the basket, and then pulled up for an 18-foot jumper that missed with about 3 seconds left. Lakers won 93-91.

8. Made game-tying 2
NBA Finals Game 3 at Lakers, June 5, 1991
With the Bulls trailing 92-90, Jordan went coast to coast and dropped in a 12-footer with 3.4 seconds left send the game into overtime. The Bulls went on to win 104-96.

9. Missed go-ahead 2
NBA Finals Game 2 vs Trail Blazers, June 5, 1992
With the game tied at 97, Jordan had a chance to win it with two seconds left but his jumper over Terry Porter banged off the back of the rim. The Blazers went on to win 115-104 in overtime.

10. Made go-ahead 2
Second round Game 4 at Cavaliers, May 17, 1993
With the score tied at 101, Jordan made an 18-foot fadeaway jumper over Gerald Wilkins at the final buzzer to give the Bulls a 103-101 victory.

11 and 12. Made game-tying 3, missed go-ahead 3
Second round Game 3 at Knicks, May 11, 1996
With the Bulls trailing 88-85, Jordan hit a 3-pointer over Derek Harper with 19.4 seconds left. With the score tied at 88, Jordan then tried to gather an errant inbounds pass and threw up a wild hook shot while falling out of bounds well behind the 3-point line. He missed and the Bulls would go on to lose in overtime 102-99.

13. Missed go-ahead 2
First round Game 3 at Bullets, April 30, 1997
With the Bulls trailing 95-94 with about 11 seconds left in the fourth, Jordan had his shot blocked by Tracy Murray. (It appeared Jordan lost the ball on the way up, but he was credited with a shot attempt nonetheless.) The ball bounced out to Scottie Pippen, who took the rebound in for a go-ahead "and one" dunk with seven seconds remaining. Though Pippen missed the ensuing free throw, the Bulls held on to win 96-95.

14. Made go-ahead 2
Finals Game 1 vs. Jazz, June 1, 1997
After Karl Malone missed two free throws with nine seconds left in the fourth quarter and the score tied at 82, Jordan hit a 20-foot jumper over Bryon Russell at the buzzer to give the Bulls an 84-82 win.

15. Missed game-tying 3
Finals Game 4 at Jazz, June 8, 1997
With the Bulls trailing 76-73, Jordan’s 3-point attempt bounced in and out with nine seconds left. The Bulls went on to lose 78-73.

16. Missed go-ahead 3
Conference Finals Game 4 at Pacers, May 25, 1998
With the Bulls down 2 and 0.7 seconds left on the clock, Jordan caught an inbounds pass and shot a 3-pointer that rolled around and out at the buzzer. The Bulls lost 96-94.

17. Missed go-ahead 3
Finals Game 5 vs. Jazz, June 12, 1998
Trailing by two with 0.8 seconds left, Jordan caught an inbounds pass and launched a fallaway desperation 3 that missed everything at the buzzer. The Bulls lost by a final score of 83-81.

18. Made go-ahead 2
Finals Game 6 at Jazz, June 14, 1998
With the Bulls trailing 86-85 late in the fourth, Jordan drove right, crossed over at the top of the key, gave the stumbling Bryon Russell an extra little push, and hit the game-winning jumper with 5.2 seconds left. This shot -- Jordan’s famous “Last Shot” with the Bulls -- would provide the final score in Chicago’s 87-86 victory.

Link to the entire article:
http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/29844/todays-crunch-time-best-vs-air-jordan

Funny about stats like that...... so Prince is the ultimate crunch time player..... while 4 of the bottom 6 are at one point...NBA Finals MVPs.

If I would design a play for a game tying or game winning shot, would I choose Prince over any of those 4 Finals MVP winners??

rusty · « **Reply #5242 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 09:27 AM »

Quote from: Munskie on Jun 12, 2011 at 09:18 AM

Funny about stats like that...... so Prince is the ultimate crunch time player..... while 4 of the bottom 6 are at one point...NBA Finals MVPs.

If I would design a play for a game tying or game winning shot, would I choose Prince over any of those 4 Finals MVP winners??

Actually, if you've read the article, it states that Jordan is the ultimate crunch time player. It just elaborates on how today's stars stack up against him on this particular metric of measuring crunch time performance.

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #5243 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 09:32 AM »

Quote from: anya618 on Jun 12, 2011 at 08:59 AM

Dirk Nowitzki calls mocking incident ‘childish’

http://sports.inquirer.net/4896/dirk-nowitzki-calls-mocking-incident-%E2%80%98childish%E2%80%99

Ibig sabihin ba nun hindi na sila (LBJ & Wade) bati ni Dirk ?

Munskie · « **Reply #5244 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 10:34 AM »

Quote from: rusty on Jun 12, 2011 at 09:27 AM

Actually, if you've read the article, it states that Jordan is the ultimate crunch time player. It just elaborates on how today's stars stack up against him on this particular metric of measuring crunch time performance.

yup read it and acknowledges that MJ is clutch King, we can agree on that. Just based my post on the chart. So Prince trumps them all at 60% success rate.

In my opinion, stats doesnt say it all in this case, just so many variables when trying to measure "clutchness".

Wouldnt try to consume anything much from Henry Abbott either, he is now posting counter arguments in his Truehoop blog in his defense, after anointing Lebron as the next Michael Jordan.

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #5245 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 05:08 PM »

mj is the number 1, number 2 and number 3 when it comes to ranking of the greatest...the next player ranks 4th...and so on and so forth...

geckoph · « **Reply #5246 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 07:47 PM »

I don't know. Even if the Heat wins tomorrow, I consider the Mavericks the favorites in a game 7. Anyway, Let's go Heat! Beat the Mavs!

I think there is only ONE greatest player of all-time. And, he is ... your pick is as good as mine.

-sniper- · « **Reply #5247 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 08:48 PM »

tomorrow's game will be the last for the season...GO MAVS!!!!

Gob_Loves_Sony · « **Reply #5248 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 09:23 PM »

sana may game 7 para bonus game for nba fans..hahahaha....

Battousai · « **Reply #5249 on:** Jun 12, 2011 at 09:33 PM »

I saw the Wade and Lebron bit and how they were allegedly mocking Dirk. And all I can say is, Lebron wasn't mocking Dirk coz he was actually choking. He does that a lot, mind you.