Author Topic: A very weird playback problem... (Read 15026 times)

Clondalkin · « **Reply #90 on:** Sep 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM »

Quote from: reynold on Sep 22, 2010 at 09:52 AM

i also tried remuxing my brooklyns finest (mkv) using mkvtoolnix 2.4.0, it didn't work, ganun pa rin ang audio playback

are there any other possible solutions pa ba? Thanks.

Pinakamabilis na solution - goto my place and bring enough HDD space, or look for someone who has a different version of your files. If you still have any sound issues with my files or other people's files, then perhaps it's time to consider replacing the A1.

reynold · « **Reply #91 on:** Sep 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Sep 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Pinakamabilis na solution - goto my place and bring enough HDD space, or look for someone who has a different version of your files. If you still have any sound issues with my files or other people's files, then perhaps it's time to consider replacing the A1.

Noted sir, i guess that's my last option. Inform ko po kayo when i find time para pumunta sa inyo, medyo malayo po kasi from my place e, i'm from Malabon kasi... Pero maraming salamat sir sa mga tulong, i really appreciate all of it

av_phile1 · « **Reply #92 on:** Sep 22, 2010 at 05:20 PM »

I think neither TSmuxer or mkvmerge can alter the bitrates. They only separate or combine together the audio and video bitstreams. What you need is a video codec converter which you can use to alter the video or audio bitrate but only AFTER you have demuxed your m2ts files using TSmuxer. I used to do it using Super Video Converter but it was limited and I don't think it works with H.263 or VC1 input files. I could transcode from one codec to another while allowing me to specify frame rate, bitrate, video resolution, audio sampling rate, etc. Google search for na lang.

reynold · « **Reply #93 on:** Sep 22, 2010 at 08:22 PM »

i already downloaded SUPER awhile ago, i'll try this later, seems it's so easy to use. Thanks for the recommendation sir av_phile

reynold · « **Reply #94 on:** Oct 11, 2010 at 10:11 AM »

Just updating this thread...

Looks like my DSP-A1 isn't the culprit after all... I got some files MKVs and M2TS with DTSMA audio and file size ranging from 15Gig to 24Gig (courtesy of Bro Mkvmovies), the audio played flawlessly with my AVR

...though i encountered problems with a 24Gig Avatar and a 15Gig (i think) Kingkong with it's video Playability... my Mede8er freezed after a minute or two playing a 24gig AVATAR movie and a couple of minutes also while playing King Kong... hindi nagre-respond yung Mede8er ko, front panels and remote, wala ng response, even the power button... Unplugged the socket and power it on again, everything backk to normal naman, wag lang ipe-play yung Avata at Kingkong... pero ok naman yung ibang movies especially Godfather movies which are 19gig in size... Ano kaya problem?

batanglambak · « **Reply #95 on:** Oct 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM »

i think the problem with our setup is still the yamaha dsp-a1 ... kase kapag sa logitech z-5500 ko, wala naman problema i-play yung same files ...

reynold · « **Reply #96 on:** Oct 11, 2010 at 03:27 PM »

Quote from: batanglambak on Oct 11, 2010 at 10:53 AM

i think the problem with our setup is still the yamaha dsp-a1 ... kase kapag sa logitech z-5500 ko, wala naman problema i-play yung same files ...

but the problem now is the video playback and not the audio, nag-blank yung screen and then nag-freeze na... i don't think it's the receiver coz ok naman yung sounds coming from the AVR... it could be the file or the nmt, i'm not sure though...

Clondalkin · « **Reply #97 on:** Oct 12, 2010 at 03:59 PM »

AVATAR is notorious for being tough for the rippers, for the encoders, for NMTS, for PCs and for us viewers. Just get the one from the best of the best encoders. What is the exact filename of your AVATAR file?

Your Kingkong was encoded from an HD-DVD source?

reynold · « **Reply #98 on:** Oct 13, 2010 at 06:30 PM »

Hi Sir Clondalkin... here are the information (via mediainfo) of each file...

AVATAR:

General
Complete name : C:\FilesKo\Hi-Def Movies\Avatar.2009.1080p.BluRay.DTSMA.x264-FLAWL3SS-HD - [ cinema.hexagon.cc ]\Avatar.2009.1080p.BluRay.DTSMA.x264-FLAWL3SS-HD.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 23.9 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 21.2 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-04-27 09:03:38
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.3.0 ('Language') built on Mar 24 2010 14:59:24
Writing library : libebml v0.8.0 + libmatroska v0.9.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 41mn
Nominal bit rate : 17.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.342
Writing library : x264 core 94 r1564 a927654
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=64 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=17000 / ratetol=1.8 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=38000 / vbv_bufsize=38000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:0.80 / nal_hrd=none
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Bulgarian

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Croatian

Text #3
ID : 5
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Czech

Text #4
ID : 6
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Danish

Text #5
ID : 7
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Dutch

Text #6
ID : 8
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English

Text #7
ID : 9
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Finnish

Text #8
ID : 10
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : French

Text #9
ID : 11
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : German

Text #10
ID : 12
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Hungarian

Text #11
ID : 13
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Greek

Text #12
ID : 14
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Norwegian

Text #13
ID : 15
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Portuguese

Text #14
ID : 16
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Slovak

Text #15
ID : 17
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Slovenian

Text #16
ID : 18
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Swedish

Menu
00:00:00.000 : :00:00:00.000
00:06:17.961 : :00:06:17.961
00:07:53.598 : :00:07:53.598
00:12:04.891 : :00:12:04.891
00:14:00.465 : :00:14:00.465
00:20:00.574 : :00:20:00.574
00:24:00.230 : :00:24:00.230
00:26:53.278 : :00:26:53.278
00:31:41.900 : :00:31:41.900
00:33:33.428 : :00:33:33.428
00:35:43.850 : :00:35:43.850
00:43:31.859 : :00:43:31.859
00:49:23.627 : :00:49:23.627
00:54:29.975 : :00:54:29.975
00:59:56.051 : :00:59:56.051
01:05:10.198 : :01:05:10.198
01:11:36.417 : :01:11:36.417
01:15:11.006 : :01:15:11.006
01:20:29.116 : :01:20:29.116
01:24:41.910 : :01:24:41.910
01:36:04.801 : :01:36:04.801
01:37:55.786 : :01:37:55.786
01:44:33.100 : :01:44:33.100
01:48:15.489 : :01:48:15.489
01:53:53.868 : :01:53:53.868
01:55:32.884 : :01:55:32.884
01:58:38.820 : :01:58:38.820
02:02:05.568 : :02:02:05.568
02:05:33.859 : :02:05:33.859
02:10:01.835 : :02:10:01.835
02:16:07.284 : :02:16:07.284
02:19:50.841 : :02:19:50.841
02:25:50.325 : :02:25:50.325
02:31:14.065 : :02:31:14.065
02:35:05.296 : :02:35:05.296

KINGKONG

General
Complete name : C:\FilesKo\Hi-Def Movies\King.Kong.2005.BluRay.1080p.DTSMA.x264.dxva-YoHo\King.Kong.2005.BluRay.1080p.DTSMA.x264.dxva-YoHo.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 19.2 GiB
Duration : 3h 7mn
Overall bit rate : 14.7 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-01 10:34:53
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.2.0 ('Beginnings') built on Feb 12 2010 16:46:17
Writing library : libebml v0.7.9 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Muxing mode : Container [email protected]
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 3h 7mn
Nominal bit rate : 10.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 816 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.280
Writing library : x264 core 94 r1583 7608d73
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.08 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=10500 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=none
Language : English

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 3h 7mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 3
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Czech

Text #3
ID : 5
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Spanish

Text #4
ID : 6
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Polish

Text #5
ID : 7
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Croatian

Text #6
ID : 8
Format : VobSub
Muxing mode : zlib
Codec ID : S_VOBSUB
Codec ID/Info : The same subtitle format used on DVDs
Language : Romanian

scifi-fan · « **Reply #99 on:** Oct 13, 2010 at 07:52 PM »

Ouch...

Way too many vobsub subtitles in that...

You'll have to remux that, strip it of unneeded subs/tracks.

Keep header compression off too.

reynold · « **Reply #100 on:** Oct 13, 2010 at 08:59 PM »

Quote from: scifi-fan on Oct 13, 2010 at 07:52 PM

Ouch...

Way too many vobsub subtitles in that...

You'll have to remux that, strip it of unneeded subs/tracks.

Keep header compression off too.

Noted sir

btw, based on the info above, how will i know if the header compression was set to on/off?

Thanks

reynold · « **Reply #101 on:** Oct 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM »

Up ko lang ulit...

what seems to be the problem of my files (Avatar and Kingkong) above? ^^^

Anyone? Thanks

robertj · « **Reply #102 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 06:56 AM »

Pa singit lang din po. I also have a Yamaha DSP-A1 at may problema din ako when playing some mkv's with DD track(crackling sound), pero ok naman sa DTS. I am using Xtreamer as NMT at nung una akala ko ay ito ang me problema but borrowed a WDTV live at ganun pa rin ang sound sa set-up ko. Ginawa ko na lang e kinonvert ko na lang sa DTS yung audio files ng mga problematic DD track. Medyo lalaki nga lang ang file size ng konti. I was relieved when I read this thread. Kasi akala ko e ako lang ang me ganitong problema with this kind of set-up.

Clondalkin · « **Reply #103 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 07:57 AM »

Quote from: reynold on Oct 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM

what seems to be the problem of my files (Avatar and Kingkong) above? ^^^

Cant see anything seriously wrong with the info you provided although I feel that MKV+DTSMA/HD, TrueHD can be iffy.

One way to isolate your problem is to try my AVATAR (around 16Mbps din ang average bitrate so almost as high as your Flawl3ss encode and nagasgas na yata sa kapapanood ng mga relatives sa Pasig) and probably whatever BD ISO with HD audio (similar 18Mbps average bitrate) I have in Manila. Kung palpak din, then Mede8er FW problem siguro. Im still using the Dec 2009 FW sa Mede8er ko.

reynold · « **Reply #104 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 09:00 AM »

Quote from: robertj on Oct 19, 2010 at 06:56 AM

Pa singit lang din po. I also have a Yamaha DSP-A1 at may problema din ako when playing some mkv's with DD track(crackling sound), pero ok naman sa DTS. I am using Xtreamer as NMT at nung una akala ko ay ito ang me problema but borrowed a WDTV live at ganun pa rin ang sound sa set-up ko. Ginawa ko na lang e kinonvert ko na lang sa DTS yung audio files ng mga problematic DD track. Medyo lalaki nga lang ang file size ng konti. I was relieved when I read this thread. Kasi akala ko e ako lang ang me ganitong problema with this kind of set-up.

Hi bro, i'm still not convinced that the DSP-A1 is the culprit. I made some testing last night, using the 2 files above, i did not use my DSP-A1 (i disconnected the receiver and i only used the sound output of my tv setting my mede8er audio output to HDMI passthrough), still the files freezes... I also did the same thing with all the files with gargling sounds, the result was the same... so without the use of my DSP-A1, the problems were still there...

Quote from: Clondalkin on Oct 19, 2010 at 07:57 AM

Cant see anything seriously wrong with the info you provided although I feel that MKV+DTSMA/HD, TrueHD can be iffy.

One way to isolate your problem is to try my AVATAR (around 16Mbps din ang average bitrate so almost as high as your Flawl3ss encode and nagasgas na yata sa kapapanood ng mga relatives sa Pasig) and probably whatever BD ISO with HD audio (similar 18Mbps average bitrate) I have in Manila. Kung palpak din, then Mede8er FW problem siguro. Im still using the Dec 2009 FW sa Mede8er ko.

I also used mkvtoolnix and set the compression to "none" and removed all subtitles except the English, still the file and my mede8er freezed... Sana makapunta ako sa inyo sa pasig sir para ma-copy ko ang files mo para ma-isolate ko pa ang problem na 'to, hehehe

robertj · « **Reply #105 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM »

Quote from: reynold on Oct 19, 2010 at 09:00 AM

Hi bro, i'm still not convinced that the DSP-A1 is the culprit. I made some testing last night, using the 2 files above, i did not use my DSP-A1 (i disconnected the receiver and i only used the sound output of my tv setting my mede8er audio output to HDMI passthrough), still the files freezes... I also did the same thing with all the files with gargling sounds, the result was the same... so without the use of my DSP-A1, the problems were still there...

Ako naman, pag di ko ginamit yung DSP-A1, OK lahat yung mga problematic files sa LG LCD tv ko. Kaya medyo convinced ako na sa amp natin ang problema.

reynold · « **Reply #106 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 01:20 PM »

^^^ pa-weird na ng pa-weird ang problemang ito ha, hehehe

parang gusto ko ng sumuko

scifi-fan · « **Reply #107 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM »

Remux without Vobsub subtitles. You just want the Video+HD Audio

You can add simpler subtitle format like SRT.

reynold · « **Reply #108 on:** Oct 19, 2010 at 11:59 PM »

Quote from: scifi-fan on Oct 19, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Remux without Vobsub subtitles. You just want the Video+HD Audio

You can add simpler subtitle format like SRT.

Ok, i will try yhis bro. Thanks

Clondalkin · « **Reply #109 on:** Oct 20, 2010 at 07:59 AM »

Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation.

scifi-fan · « **Reply #110 on:** Oct 20, 2010 at 10:45 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Oct 20, 2010 at 07:59 AM

Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation.

Agree 100%

You cannot judge a player or it's firmware to be faulty using content not of your own.

If I get files that don't work I almost always blame the content first before the player. It's only when I get problems using content I personally rip that I can factor in na baka nga meron problem sa player/firmware.

reynold · « **Reply #111 on:** Oct 20, 2010 at 01:10 PM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Oct 20, 2010 at 07:59 AM

Problem is not weird. Encoded files can be dubious. You just have to find the one that will play. Taking any unplayable file too seriously is similar to taking the Big Talk thread like a vocation.

Natawa naman ako dito, hehehe

Sige, di ko na masyado po-problemahin yung mga files, pag di nag-work e di i-delete, hehehe dami pang files na nagkalat dyan

I hope someday i can get a file from you sir Clondalkin, problem is magkalayo ang place natin, out-of-way pa pag pasok at pag-uwi ko from work...