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Confused: first time buyer
« on: Jan 18, 2011 at 04:46 PM »
My budget is around 60-70K with size not smaller than 42in. I don't know if I should get the LG LED 42650 or Panasonic plasma 50v20. I'm also considering the "motion flow/ tru motion concept". Not sure if it has that in the plasma TV. I normally watch for cable tv and movies. Thanks for your advice.

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #1 on: Jan 18, 2011 at 05:12 PM »
I would go for the plasma if i were you.
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #2 on: Jan 18, 2011 at 05:24 PM »
Panny Plasma

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #3 on: Jan 18, 2011 at 05:25 PM »
If its for everyday viewing id go for LED, less power consumption, no burn in.

For dedicated Movie viewing, id go for Plasma, higher contrast ratio, darker blacks... ;)
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #4 on: Jan 18, 2011 at 07:06 PM »
I'm bias toward BIG screen so the Panny Plasma gets my vote! ;)

In future you may try HD materials on your BIG screen & I'm sure you'll love it! :)

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #5 on: Jan 19, 2011 at 01:28 AM »
My budget is around 60-70K with size not smaller than 42in. I don't know if I should get the LG LED 42650 or Panasonic plasma 50v20. I'm also considering the "motion flow/ tru motion concept". Not sure if it has that in the plasma TV. I normally watch for cable tv and movies. Thanks for your advice.

Cable TV is still best viewed on a plasma, the overly bright nature of LCD tends to magnify the imperfections of our local broadcasts.

The V20 has a motion flow trick called "24p/SmoothFilm", that is activated provided your source can output 24p (Ex. most blu-ray players and the PS3). This gives you a very smooth looking film that would make your movies look like they were taken from handy-cams. It's a cool looking trick but it induces visual artifacts such as tearing.

The only time I'd go for the 460 from LG is when, gaming and PC use are my major uses.

Thanks
« Last Edit: Jan 19, 2011 at 01:43 AM by Carlo777 »

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #6 on: Jan 19, 2011 at 05:45 AM »
cable tv use = plasma
tv size = depends on viewing distance.

as always, try to audition first.

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #7 on: Jan 19, 2011 at 05:51 AM »
50" Panny Plasma TV pa rin.. Burn-in is a thing of the past.. Unless you watch 24/7 on your tv, then you should not worry about electricity consumption.. Mas malaki pa bill ng 24/7 refrigerator mo..
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #8 on: Jan 19, 2011 at 08:11 AM »
^+1 wala na burn in.
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #9 on: Jan 19, 2011 at 09:53 AM »
If I use my 50V2 24/7, I would consume about 90kWh in a month.  At 10 pesos per kWh, that would be 900 pesos.

Unfortunately I have no data for LG but I have checked all equivalent Japanese makers of LCD.  At the same usage, I would consume a MINIMUM of 50% (it's floating between 60-70% but Im giving LED all the leverage to maximize its power consumption advantage on paper).  Hence at 24/7, you can save 450 pesos a month.  But if you are a normal person with social life and sleeping time, you would probably save no more than 100-150 pesos a month.

So yeah, you actually save money if you opt for an LCD/LED...every peso counts diba.   It's gonna be a huge amount of money if the entire world gets rid of plasma.   ;).  Pero kung household mo lang iisipin mo, just reduce your McDonald's value meal consumption by ONE...or dont use the aircon for a night?

BTW, the 50V20 is gonna cost you a little over 90K so just review your budget.  ;)

BTW ulit, the V20 looks awesome as a PC monitor even when set at 1365x768.  Ganda ng text quality, image brightness and overall colors. IR is strong though.

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #10 on: Jan 21, 2011 at 11:50 AM »
Thank you guys for giving those feedback. I'm now sure of getting a plasma, I just can't decide whether to get Panasonic 42in v20 or LG 50in pk550r? Both of them are in the same price range but the other one is bigger in size. Viewing distance is not a concern since I can move my sofa nearer or farther from the tv.
Looking forward to your advise. Thanks.

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #11 on: Jan 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM »
Get the Panny - proven reliability and picture quality, as size is not that important to you.

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #12 on: Jan 21, 2011 at 12:43 PM »

Get the Panasonic.  

Dead pixels occur very rarely on plasma panels, since dead pixels are almost always an LCD issue.  But according to sir ojokik, he's already seen dead pixels on two units of LG 50" PK550R:


On the dead pixels, there were actually a few dead pixels with the initial 2 plasmas na nilabas nila sa akin from their stock room. As per my experience, the dead pixels that I saw were not as evident using the white wash and color wash features of the tv. The flash drive that I brought with the v120.1 slides ay malaki po ang naitulong sa akin para makita agad yun mga dead pixels at makabili ng defect-free panel.

If you would like to verify this, you can look for the LG salesman sa SM appliance makati named Ariel. He can help confirm that there are really indeed dead pixels on some of their LG plasma tvs. Ito rin po ay mababasa dito kung ikaw ay miyembro http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/search.php?searchid=16739612 summarized na po yan ng mga dead pixels experience nila with this TV.  ;)

... Scary ...  :o
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #13 on: Jan 21, 2011 at 12:49 PM »
Ahhhhhh what a P70,000 budget can do.................. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #14 on: Jan 21, 2011 at 04:14 PM »

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Re: Confused: first time buyer
« Reply #15 on: Jan 29, 2011 at 01:25 PM »
http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/509/whats-new-in-tvs/

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What's new in TVs
By ConsumerReports.org

LED backlights on LCD TVs
More LCD TVs are now using LED backlights; last year LEDs were used mostly on high-priced TVs. These so-called LED TVs aren't a new, better type of TV, though ads imply that. They're LCD TVs that use LED backlights instead of fluorescent ones. When well implemented, LED lighting can contribute to deeper blacks, better contrast, a slimmer profile, and lower energy use. Some manufacturers are selling only LED models, especially in larger sizes, so you might have less choice in conventionally backlit sets.

Most of the new LED-based sets we're seeing now use edge-LED backlights, with LEDs around the perimeter of the screen and special diffusers that spread the light across the entire panel. Edge LEDs allow LCD TVs to be very thin. They're also very energy-efficient, resulting in the lowest power consumption of TVs we've tested.

We're finding fewer new TVs with full-array LED backlights across the entire panel and a feature called local dimming. Local dimming allows for variable brightness in a scene, with dimmer lighting behind dark sections of an image and brighter lighting in other areas, an attempt to improve perceived contrast.

On the TVs we've tested, local dimming is often very effective, resulting in better contrast and deeper black levels. For example, the newer Vizio XVT LCD TVs with TruLED backlights have produced some of the best black levels we've seen on an LCD, almost as good as the better plasma sets. We've tested a few edge LEDs with local dimming, but we haven't found it to be very effective on those sets.

Bottom line
Consider an LCD TV with a full-array backlight and local dimming if you want deeper blacks and better contrast and you're willing to pay more. If you want those attributes without a high price tag, consider a plasma TV instead. And don't rule out conventional LCDs, which can do just as well as LED-based sets, and usually at a lower price. If you want the thinnest TV and lowest power consumption available, opt for an edge-LED set. New TVs might combine the advantages of full-array and edge-lit LEDs: LG Electronics has announced a new type of full-array LED backlight with lights placed on a thin film, allowing for a very thin profile, along with local dimming.
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