Author Topic: CD Players surplus (Read 412687 times)

Philander · « **Reply #150 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 10:26 AM »

Quote from: D0Hbert on Mar 08, 2004 at 07:22 PM

Wanna ask the experts, do all denon surplus cd players, especially those 20bit 8x oversampling have the burr brown DACs in them? I just bought a dcd-830, tried playing thru the analog and optical out to the Harman 3550, it seems the dacs of the HK sound better than that of the denon. Why is that? thanks for reading the post.

How much is Denon DCD-830? The last time I've checked is about Php 3.2K.. Looks good, I hope it will sound good.

It is 20bit & 8X oversampling

BGA VI · « **Reply #151 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 12:07 PM »

hi gud am, my surplus sony cdp 337esd says staggered 4 DA converter on the tray what does that mean ? Thanks !!!

akyatbundok · « **Reply #152 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 03:10 PM »

here's a link to various sony ES cd players.

you may use babelfish to translate from japanese to english.

based on the translation, the "staggered 4 D/A converter" could mean that since one philips chip contains 2 independent 16-bit DACS for L/R and the unit uses 2, then 2x2=4 ?? hehe just a hunch, we'll never know for sure.

sony ES is hi-end division and you can tell from its orig price of Y89,800 in 1987 thats about 45k by today's exchange rate.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #153 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 08:22 PM »

Interesting feature. The output of a D/A converter is analog. So what's another pair of D/A converter that has been staggered doing?

D0Hbert · « **Reply #154 on:** Mar 09, 2004 at 08:50 PM »

Philander, unang sigaw sa akin ng price nasa 3000 yata, sbi ko sobra mahal, 2200 lang yan, pumayag naman

ok naman tunog, gaya ng sabi ko parang mas malawak ang sound stage ng dacs ng HK3550. They also have the dcd 810, with coax digital out, itong 830 is optical out and made in japan, yung 810 china, so ito kinuha ko, ok pa condition

[slayer] · « **Reply #155 on:** Apr 01, 2004 at 02:22 PM »

What's the best surplus cdp finds right now sa pier?

D0Hbert · « **Reply #156 on:** Apr 01, 2004 at 11:04 PM »

came from the pier today, saw a lot of nice denons, saw one exactly like mine, dcd-830, optical out lang, pero japan made, ok pa naman so far, saw lots of dcd-1400, dual digital out, pero may balita ako na yung model na yan, pag umiinit, tatalon na. hope this helps

porch_zero · « **Reply #157 on:** Apr 02, 2004 at 10:37 AM »

sir DOHbert, how much ung mga nakita mong nice denons sa pier? at san sa pier yun? kasi ang alam ko lang sa pier, yung sa malapit sa intramuros, yung malapit sa rotonda.

at saka one more question, yung optical out ba, para san? may mga kinakabit bang cable dun or something para gumanda ang sounds?

D0Hbert · « **Reply #158 on:** Apr 02, 2004 at 07:25 PM »

Dapat ang running price nasa 2300 or 2200 lang, pero kadalasan mataas ang unang bigay, so tawaran mo nalang. Yan nga yung pier na tukoy ko, malapit sa rotonda. Optical out, same sya sa toslink optical out ng dvd players, sabi ng iba mas mataba tunog ng coax compared to optical.

kaffee1 · « **Reply #159 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 02:34 PM »

Hello,
this may sound a bit extreme but, after reading through this thread, I'd like to ask what 8times oversampling 287th order digital filter full time linear 18bit combination 4D/A converter means???

The other entries i kinda got from reading the thread, but the entries in bold I don't quite get. Since I got this player a few days ago, I heared crackles (on the highs, especially voices, some instruments) on the CD copies which I didn't hear in my other players. Any help?? Thank you!

akyatbundok · « **Reply #160 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 04:29 PM »

kaffee1, i dunno what those numbers mean, it could just be a marketing blurb to make it seem more advanced than other 8x oversampling cd players... what's the brand & model of the cd player you got?

i've tried a 1-bit MASH panasonic cd player and a 20-bit 8x denon cd player... both were entry level, but i think i liked the sound & features of the panasonic a little bit better, but the problem with it is mapili, can't read cdr's.

nels76 · « **Reply #161 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 04:32 PM »

Folks,

Saan kaya puwede magpagawa ng surplus CD Player regarding skipping problem?

May nagsabi sa akin meron daw sa pier?

Any idea?

Sabi may konti adjustment lang na gagawin.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #162 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 05:38 PM »

I opened my surplus Yamaha CD player last weekend, cleaned the lens with a cotton bud swabbed in isopropyl rubbing alcohol and applied motor oil (for tamiya racers

) on the dual steel glide path of the lens assembly. So far i have not had any instance of skipping. And to think I was ready to dispose of this unit precisely for this reason. Now I think it will last for another year

nels76 · « **Reply #163 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 07:16 PM »

done that but still skipping

thanks anyway.

kaffee1 · « **Reply #164 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 08:57 PM »

Quote from: nels76 on Apr 05, 2004 at 07:16 PM

done that but still skipping

thanks anyway.

HI,

If you've been able to read the threads like I did, try out the shop of Hyperaudio in Makati. Havent been there my self, just do a search or go to the Hyperaudio thread.

Hope that helps

kaffee1 · « **Reply #165 on:** Apr 05, 2004 at 09:06 PM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Apr 05, 2004 at 04:29 PM

kaffee1, i dunno what those numbers mean, it could just be a marketing blurb to make it seem more advanced than other 8x oversampling cd players... i've tried a 1-bit MASH panasonic cd player and a 20-bit 8x denon cd player... both were entry level, but i think i liked the sound & features of the panasonic a little bit better, but the problem with it is mapili, can't read cdr's.

RE "could it be because the laser pickup in the 80's aren't as forgiving as today's gear..." - - I noticed that of 80s CDPs, they do tend to be picky of CDRs. Or does that mean my CDPs need a tune up?

RE highs, I think (or maybe would like to think Ü) that the limitation of the CDR blanks did show, or perhaps even the burning process. Some copies I have, though very few, are not all on Kodak gold (the early releases, in which both sides are gold; the ones that initially gave out the 100yrs warranty). I do beleive that media has something to do with copy quality, though I think that deserves another thread

av_phile1 · « **Reply #166 on:** Apr 06, 2004 at 09:50 AM »

It is adviseable that CD-Rs are burned at 1x to 2x speed max to ensure that the pits are created properly. This was the rule before. Maybe there are now better Cd blanks and the writers have a more intense, focused or powerful beams to make 4x to 12x burned CD-Rs readable in many players. I have experienced difficulty playing CD-Rs burned at 24x and 12x. But the same player was able to track well on the same material and brand of CD-R burned at 4X.

Yahoo! · « **Reply #167 on:** May 05, 2004 at 01:44 PM »

Just bought a surplus Sony CDP-990 in pier last Monday, it has 16-bit oversampling and a custom file function, two sets of rca outs, fixed and variable and an optical out, got it for 1.8K after much haggling, last piece already and no remote

. Any reviews about this player? where can i get the manual for this one? anybody got a link for sony CD player manuals? what remote can i use to operate this? Thanks...

kid · « **Reply #168 on:** May 05, 2004 at 05:52 PM »

seacrmnd,

try googling but i think you cant get anymore specs except in japanese sites. until now, i havent found any specs on my surplus sony cdp. btw, mine is 611 and it works perfectly after two months of use (swerte lang sguro) hehehe......

enjoy your gear.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #169 on:** May 05, 2004 at 08:52 PM »

Quote from: seacrmnd on May 05, 2004 at 01:44 PM

Just bought a surplus Sony CDP-990 in pier last Monday, what remote can i use to operate this? Thanks...

Some universal remotes have codes for Sony CDPs that could work with yours. My yamaha CDX1000 also had no remote. The Sony universal I bought had a code for Yamaha CDPs and it worked. But don't expect all the controls to be supported. Only the major power, stop, pause, play, skip, ff and rew buttons can be remotely controled. But that's good enough for me.

Yahoo! · « **Reply #170 on:** May 18, 2004 at 03:40 PM »

thanks sir av_phile, I got a universal remote from Raon last Sunday, cost was 220 pesos. You were right sir, only the basic functions are available but that's good enough for me.

kid · « **Reply #171 on:** May 18, 2004 at 04:50 PM »

whats the name of the store where you bought your rc?

Yahoo! · « **Reply #172 on:** May 19, 2004 at 10:55 AM »

sir punk_kid, sa may Getz po, yung stall nila sa loob. The label shows Sony Universal Remote for 7 different equipment. I was also able to control my surplus Onkyo CD player with this one so I bought two!

, i bought the last one yesterday after testing it with Sony and Onkyo cd players, try mo sir baka may stocks na sila ulit.
It supports many brands unlike others that I saw, Onkyo was not in the list so I opted for this one.

kid · « **Reply #173 on:** May 19, 2004 at 12:32 PM »

tenks, ill try this weekend and see if there's any stock.

agmjr · « **Reply #174 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 11:45 AM »

sorry for resurrecting this old thread, just want to share my newly acquired denon cd player acquired from the pier:

specs as copied from a certain website:

DCD-1530
Frequency characteristic /5Hz - 20kHz0.3 d B
Signal-noise ratio /100dB
Dynamic range /100dB
Total height harmonic wave distortion factor /0.0025% or less
Channel separation /102dB (1 k Hz)
Output voltage /20.V (FIX), 0 - 2.0V (VALIABLE)
Electric power consumption /13W
External size /W434mm H122mm L320mm
Mass /7kg

ano sa tingin nyo, okey ba?

kimpao · « **Reply #175 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 11:51 AM »

Quote from: agmjr on Jun 14, 2004 at 11:45 AM

sorry for resurrecting this old thread, just want to share my newly acquired denon cd player acquired from the pier:
ano sa tingin nyo, okey ba?

Panalo yan, sir! Lawak ng soundstage at mataba tumunog niyan.

wanderlust · « **Reply #176 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 12:32 PM »

i think this is the same model as that what DOHbert used to have, also a surplus, but his got busted after 2 weeks use, i think, he had it replced though. i heard it play, and i think its a very good sounding cdp.

where have you bought it sir?

agmjr · « **Reply #177 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 01:15 PM »

sa pier at 1.9K

wanderlust · « **Reply #178 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 01:18 PM »

whre exactly?

the price is already a bargain ha, DOHberts was i think bought at 2.3k.

agmjr · « **Reply #179 on:** Jun 14, 2004 at 01:56 PM »

sa kanan siya coming from the rotunda sa may harap ng ppa. i will post the name of the store bukas titingnan ko sa resibo.