Author Topic: CD Players surplus (Read 396565 times)

wanderlust · « **Reply #300 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 01:45 PM »

cdp surplus shoot-out na! dalhin ko technics ko kaso dapat puro orig and pirated cds lang tayo, hehehe mapili din to e! hehehe.

akyatbundok · « **Reply #301 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:07 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:18 AM

I've snubbed high-end but old CDP models here in Davao these past few years, but with the experiences you're sharing, I'm going back hunting for those machines. Who knows, they may have new optical lenses since I remember back in '85 when I first got my first Sony CDP, the manual said the optical lens was good only from 5 to 10 years on normal use. That was first-generation CDP lens, of course. I've actually seen mid-80s top of the line CDPs here made by Sony, Technics and Yamaha. Kung may katulong akong mag-aararo dito, I might find them buried somewhere.

Also among the Jap commercial brands, Sony is really the best with respect to CDPs (didn't they develop the CD?). Just like Sansui and Luxman for amps, Nakamichi for cassette tape players, and Micro Seiki and Denon for records decks (Technics was more of a generalist, although famous for its DD turntables, until DJs who can hardly be described as audiophiles decided the SL1200 is best for scratching, not playing, vinyls).

sir sandawa, baka lang may makita ka dyan... post ko na yung mga possible surplus candidates from niji's site.... meron pang mas higher models na separate chassis ang DAC pero admit ko na malabo makahanap ng pares nun....

sony CDP-R3

kenwood L-D1 (top-loading!)

denon DCD-3500G

onkyo C-2001

pioneer PD-T09

john5479 · « **Reply #302 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:18 PM »

my vote goes for the sony and pioneer players

j_albert22 · « **Reply #303 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:22 PM »

para sakin DEnon at Sony

wanderlust · « **Reply #304 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:26 PM »

basing upon the pics posted alone ill go for the sony and the denon.

john5479 · « **Reply #305 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:33 PM »

well i like the sony not just on the looks but that its a good transport that can still compete with the modern ones

BGA VI · « **Reply #306 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:48 PM »

sir hans,

try ko mamaya. pag ok dalhin ko,

kung ayaw spectator na lang ako.

kid · « **Reply #307 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 05:22 PM »

i'll go for denon and sony

hunting tayo nyan

JojoD818 · « **Reply #308 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 05:37 PM »

Quote from: punk_kid on Jul 22, 2004 at 12:40 PM

hans,

dapat dinaanan mo kami ni wanderlust, malapit lang office namin sa pier. may nauwi din sana kami ahihihi. lam ko may mga bagong dating talaga nung friday nakalimutan lang namin pumasyal.

congrats sa another "precious" mo

senyor jojoD,

bili ka na rin

Parang gusto ko na nga eh... nahihirapan na din magbasa yun samsung na vcd (used as cdp) player ko.

Minsan talon pa ng talon!

sandawa · « **Reply #309 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 05:39 PM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Jul 22, 2004 at 04:07 PM

sir sandawa, baka lang may makita ka dyan... post ko na yung mga possible surplus candidates from niji's site.... meron pang mas higher models na separate chassis ang DAC pero admit ko na malabo makahanap ng pares nun....

Sir Akyat, wala akong nakita sa mga naka-post na yan, ang nakita ko yung Sony 701ES, Yamaha 1a or 2a yata, Nakamichi OM-70(?) at Technics na nakatagilid ang tray, parang nakatayo ang unit. Basta alam ko mid -80s itong mga 'to at mahal ang presyo. Hindi ko alam kung natabunan na sa mga bodega rito o may nakabili na. Btw, may "nakahoy" ako dito kahapon, Nakamichi 482Z (original price in 1982 - $975), good working condition with minor scratches, P1K lang. Kaya ito, puro cassette tape ang pinatutugtug ko ngayon.

akyatbundok · « **Reply #310 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 05:54 PM »

yamaha cd-1a...... MSRP was 260,000 yen in 1983.

kimpao · « **Reply #311 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 06:18 PM »

Onkyo Integra C-701 XD

Blind Item : "Isang aktibong myembro nag-uwi nito kangina lang hapon".

akyatbundok · « **Reply #312 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 06:36 PM »

napakagandang unit naman nyan manong, kay swerte naman at nakakita kayo niyan..... parinig sa surplus CDP shootout ha?

john5479 · « **Reply #313 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 06:38 PM »

ang bibilis naman...OT lang sana me maligaw na yamaha NS1000 dun

kimpao · « **Reply #314 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 06:46 PM »

Quote from: john5479 on Jul 22, 2004 at 06:38 PM

ang bibilis naman...OT lang sana me maligaw na yamaha NS1000 dun

check mo sa cubao, sa likod ng farmers market, parang may nakita akong mga yamaha at sony na champainge colored dun over the weekend.

H a n $ · « **Reply #315 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 07:27 PM »

Quote from: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 06:18 PM

Onkyo Integra C-701 XD

Blind Item : "Isang aktibong myembro nag-uwi nito kangina lang hapon".

Maganda naman kaya yan??.

we shall see..

H a n $ · « **Reply #316 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 07:38 PM »

Mga FAFA,

Paano criteria natin sa Surplus shootout..

1. pabilisan magread?
2.
3.

hehehe fish fish lang..

sandawa · « **Reply #317 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 08:54 PM »

Quote from: kimpao on Jul 22, 2004 at 06:18 PM

Blind Item : "Isang aktibong myembro nag-uwi nito kangina lang hapon".

i own an Onkyo C501XD and C901XD bought at P1K each last year. there's a C701XD here, which i could buy also at P1K but i'm thinking it would be for RU9 since he asked me to bring him one when i visit Zamboanga next month.

these models are okay, but need from 5 to 10 minutes warming up to perform properly. hindi mapili sa CDs (could read CD-Rs, even mini CDs), mabilis magbasa, but could mistrack the first song pag malamig. my 501XD's tray also fails sometimes but there's a technique there. just push the tray, and when you hear the click, it would pop out. it only happens at about 2 out of 10 tries anyway. maganda yung 501XD parang brand new, the 901XD has some scratches pero A-okay din. parehong complete ang jacks - two sets for analog and two for digital. actually sa Selworld yan noon, mura lang ang auction price nila, lower than the mid-level Sony ES series. pero maganda tingnan. these came out in the US as DX series in late to '80s to early '90s at prices ranging from $500 for 501XD to $800 for 901XD.

s2kov · « **Reply #318 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 09:02 PM »

Pre, how much is the 701ES? Ok pa ba performance?

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 22, 2004 at 05:39 PM

Sir Akyat, wala akong nakita sa mga naka-post na yan, ang nakita ko yung Sony 701ES, Yamaha 1a or 2a yata, Nakamichi OM-70(?) at Technics na nakatagilid ang tray, parang nakatayo ang unit. Basta alam ko mid -80s itong mga 'to at mahal ang presyo. Hindi ko alam kung natabunan na sa mga bodega rito o may nakabili na. Btw, may "nakahoy" ako dito kahapon, Nakamichi 482Z (original price in 1982 - $975), good working condition with minor scratches, P1K lang. Kaya ito, puro cassette tape ang pinatutugtug ko ngayon.

sandawa · « **Reply #319 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 10:14 PM »

top of the line ng Sony ang 701ES nung mid-80s, ang problema hindi ko alam kung nandito pa sa Davao yun. isa pa sobrang bigat niyan, malaki masyado compared with with current CDPs. 'yun ngang Technics na nakita ko parang microwave oven ang itsura pati laki.

JojoD818 · « **Reply #320 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 08:28 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 22, 2004 at 08:54 PM

i own an Onkyo C501XD and C901XD bought at P1K each last year. there's a C701XD here, which i could buy also at P1K but i'm thinking it would be for RU9 since he asked me to bring him one when i visit Zamboanga next month.

these models are okay, but need from 5 to 10 minutes warming up to perform properly. hindi mapili sa CDs (could read CD-Rs, even mini CDs), mabilis magbasa, but could mistrack the first song pag malamig. my 501XD's tray also fails sometimes but there's a technique there. just push the tray, and when you hear the click, it would pop out. it only happens at about 2 out of 10 tries anyway. maganda yung 501XD parang brand new, the 901XD has some scratches pero A-okay din. parehong complete ang jacks - two sets for analog and two for digital. actually sa Selworld yan noon, mura lang ang auction price nila, lower than the mid-level Sony ES series. pero maganda tingnan. these came out in the US as DX series in late to '80s to early '90s at prices ranging from $500 for 501XD to $800 for 901XD.

Sir san po ba sa inyo? sa ngayon kasi 1K pa lang pambili ko ng surplus cdp. meron pa kaya?

thanks,
JojoD

sandawa · « **Reply #321 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 09:32 AM »

sorry Jojo, nasa Davao ako. kaya ako nakakamura dito kasi sa warehouse ako diretso. ang bentahan nila sa warehouse "as is", hanggang power lang ang testing. pero since, may kausap ako sa loob na technicians, pag may gusto akong bilhin, pinatatago ko sa kanila tapos testing nila sa gabi. kinabukasan, kukunin ko kung okay sa "as-is" price of P800 to P900 for CDP (sa price list nila P350 to P600 lang pero hindi ganun pag nakita nilang maganda ang hawak mo). binibigyan ko ang technician ng P100 to P200 per unit depende kung maganda ang nakuha ko. yung isang contact ko, na-buking na kaya nilipat, pero may kapalit naman. sa retailers ng surplus dito, presyong Maynila din, ang CDP from P1.5K to P3.5K. pero konting abilidad, ang laki ng savings, plus free servicing pa dun sa technician na nag-test ng unit.

H a n $ · « **Reply #322 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 11:24 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 23, 2004 at 09:32 AM

sorry Jojo, nasa Davao ako. kaya ako nakakamura dito kasi sa warehouse ako diretso. ang bentahan nila sa warehouse "as is", hanggang power lang ang testing. pero since, may kausap ako sa loob na technicians, pag may gusto akong bilhin, pinatatago ko sa kanila tapos testing nila sa gabi. kinabukasan, kukunin ko kung okay sa "as-is" price of P800 to P900 for CDP (sa price list nila P350 to P600 lang pero hindi ganun pag nakita nilang maganda ang hawak mo). binibigyan ko ang technician ng P100 to P200 per unit depende kung maganda ang nakuha ko. yung isang contact ko, na-buking na kaya nilipat, pero may kapalit naman. sa retailers ng surplus dito, presyong Maynila din, ang CDP from P1.5K to P3.5K. pero konting abilidad, ang laki ng savings, plus free servicing pa dun sa technician na nag-test ng unit.

Sir galing naman inside job?? hehehehe.. Musta pala sound ng Onkyo integra 501xd or 901xd compare to Sony ES sir??

sandawa · « **Reply #323 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 11:37 AM »

meron akong Sony 227ESD dati, sira na, ang tanda ko mukhang mas okey compared with Onkyo XDs. pero hindi ako sigurado, dahil walang nangyaring A/B comparison. actually, kaya ko nabili itong dalawang Onkyo, nanghihinayang ako dahil poging-pogi ang appearance compared with others i saw. talagang puwedeng sabihing brand new yung 501XD. yung 901XD pala 3 sets of analog outputs (not 2 as i previously mentioned), kaya kahit ikabit mo siya sa 3 amps ng sabay sabay puwede. ang ginagamit ko kasi talagang primary CDPs two units of Revox 226. yung isa may problema na pero yung isa perfect pa.

onedown · « **Reply #324 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 11:47 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 22, 2004 at 08:54 PM

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these models are okay, but need from 5 to 10 minutes warming up to perform properly. hindi mapili sa CDs (could read CD-Rs, even mini CDs), mabilis magbasa, but could mistrack the first song pag malamig.

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sandawa, any idea why it needs warming up? i'm having the same experience with the laser disc player that i use as a cd player.

thanks.

sandawa · « **Reply #325 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 11:59 AM »

i really don't know, i guess it has something to do with reduced efficiency of the components that drive the optical pickup as these units age. with the power stabilized their efficiency increases maybe. av-phile would probably have answer to this.

onedown · « **Reply #326 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 12:21 PM »

sandawa, oh, ok. thanks for taking time to reply to my query, anyway. sending you a pm after i post this.

Narayan · « **Reply #327 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 12:26 PM »

Quote from: wanderlust on Jul 22, 2004 at 01:17 PM

wow, panalo nga tlga yan sir! swerte mo dyan! mahirap lang nyan you wont be able to enjoy again thru a new source all of your cds, but whos complaining with a cdp like that, winner ka na!

yup...played it again last night using orig cds and talagang panalo...comparable ang sound to my old rotel player

fierari · « **Reply #328 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 12:47 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jul 23, 2004 at 11:37 AM

meron akong Sony 227ESD dati, sira na, ang tanda ko mukhang mas okey compared with Onkyo XDs. pero hindi ako sigurado, dahil walang nangyaring A/B comparison. actually, kaya ko nabili itong dalawang Onkyo, nanghihinayang ako dahil poging-pogi ang appearance compared with others i saw. talagang puwedeng sabihing brand new yung 501XD. yung 901XD pala 3 sets of analog outputs (not 2 as i previously mentioned), kaya kahit ikabit mo siya sa 3 amps ng sabay sabay puwede. ang ginagamit ko kasi talagang primary CDPs two units of Revox 226. yung isa may problema na pero yung isa perfect pa.

ser pabili ako sayo bayaran ko 1.5k

wanderlust · « **Reply #329 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 12:57 PM »

Quote from: Narayan on Jul 23, 2004 at 12:26 PM

yup...played it again last night using orig cds and talagang panalo...comparable ang sound to my old rotel player

hanep sir! i just gotta hear that cdp! maka pasayal nga ng pier ngayon