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Try ko lang sagutin sir ha. Pero maybe this may or may not apply to your belief or faith pero going to heaven is a promise made by Jesus Christ for all of us.

John 3:16New International Version (NIV)

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

But outside the Bible, I cannot answer you sir.

bumblebee · « **Reply #128 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 02:55 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Nov 01, 2014 at 02:53 PM

Try ko lang sagutin sir ha. Pero maybe this may or may not apply to your belief or faith pero going to heaven is a promise made by Jesus Christ for all of us.

John 3:16New International Version (NIV)

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

But outside the Bible, I cannot answer you sir.

Thanks for that, Nelson. I know that passage and I know you meant well.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #129 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 08:54 PM »

Quote from: bass_nut on Nov 01, 2014 at 01:09 PM

kw, you may want to read on Mark 10:6-7, etc
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Mark&chapter=10&verse=6

I've read that passage. It seems the choice to interpret that particular passage as being against homosexuality is made by the one who is reading it.

RU9 · « **Reply #130 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 09:21 PM »

From a facebook post:

If cardinals believe that it is he Holy Spirit that works in the election of the Pope then what the #•*! Is

this Cardinal complaining about?
EH di sa Holy Spirit siya mag complain...
Unless of course this Cardinal is willing to admit that electing Popes is just a as human an exercise as
electing the president of your Rotary Club with factions and coalitions and all? Then he can complain.
So which is it kaya???

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/10/31/cardinal-catholic-church-pope-francis-ship-without-rudder/

VATICAN CITY (RNS) American Cardinal Raymond Burke, the feisty former archbishop of St. Louis who has emerged as the face of the opposition to Pope Francis’ reformist agenda, likened the Roman Catholic Church to “a ship without a rudder” in a fresh attack on the pope’s leadership.

In an interview with the Spanish Catholic weekly Vida Nueva, published Thursday (Oct. 30), Burke insisted he was not speaking out against the pope personally but raising concern about his leadership.

“Many have expressed their concerns to me. At this very critical moment, there is a strong sense that the church is like a ship without a rudder,” Burke said.

RU9 · « **Reply #131 on:** Nov 01, 2014 at 09:27 PM »

^ excerpt from the url above.

When the synod signaled a more welcoming tone to gay and lesbian Catholics, Burke publicly accused the global gathering of bias and was among those who pushed for a less conciliatory approach in the final report.

Burke had previously said that Catholic families should not expose children to the “evil” of homosexuality by inviting a gay son home for Christmas with his partner.

In his latest interview, Burke said the church was “the pillar of marriage” and challenged the pope’s revolutionary “Who am I to judge?” remark on gay people.

barrister · « **Reply #132 on:** Nov 02, 2014 at 05:00 PM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on Nov 01, 2014 at 11:18 AM

So at worst, He was indifferent. And depending on how you interpret that one story involving the Roman centurion asking Jesus to heal his "slave" (in some texts, the "slave" is referred to as "pais", which also means "teenage boy lover"), maybe even pro-gay.

Luke 7:2 says "doulos" (slave or servant). Matthew 8:5 says "pais" (child).

The definition of doulos under Strong's Number 1401: http://biblehub.com/greek/1401.htm
The definition of pais under Strong's Number 3816: http://biblehub.com/greek/3816.htm

Therefore, reconciling the two verses, the person referred to is a slave or servant who is a child.

The Greek Interlinear states:

Luke 7:2 - http://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/7.htm
Matthew 8:5 - http://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/8.htm

To say that the servant is the centurion's homosexual lover is to add meaning that is not there.

Quitacet · « **Reply #133 on:** Nov 03, 2014 at 03:10 PM »

http://www.rappler.com/thought-leaders/73837-omg-om-meditation?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #134 on:** Nov 06, 2014 at 10:12 AM »

^Yeah. That's idiotic.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #135 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM »

Quote from: Quitacet on Nov 03, 2014 at 03:10 PM

http://www.rappler.com/thought-leaders/73837-omg-om-meditation?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral

Just read the article. As a believer of JC and the Bible, I would have to partially agree with the catholic priest though I'm not a catholic. I have conditioned my mind (well as much and often as possible), to always fill it with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus' teachings etc. There are times when I empty my mind, madaming tukso.

And sometimes, the temptation may come from my creative mind

or maybe from the devil himself.

We may or may not know. But it is also "possible" that it may come from the devil. No exact rule of the thumb.

bass_nut · « **Reply #136 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 12:40 AM »

well said, sir Nelson

to add: there seem to be good and bad side effects of yoga.

here's an interesting read =>
http://breakingmuscle.com/yoga/hot-yoga-the-dangers-and-myths-you-need-to-know

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #137 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 12:52 AM »

Quote from: bass_nut on Dec 13, 2014 at 12:40 AM

well said, sir Nelson

to add: there seem to be good and bad side effects of yoga.

here's an interesting read =>
http://breakingmuscle.com/yoga/hot-yoga-the-dangers-and-myths-you-need-to-know

Wow! Thanks for the good read! I never thought of it that way. But i'm sure there are also good effects of yoga but clearing my mind is not for me.

Klaus Weasley · « **Reply #138 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Just read the article. As a believer of JC and the Bible, I would have to partially agree with the catholic priest though I'm not a catholic. I have conditioned my mind (well as much and often as possible), to always fill it with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus' teachings etc. There are times when I empty my mind, madaming tukso. And sometimes, the temptation may come from my creative mind or maybe from the devil himself. We may or may not know. But it is also "possible" that it may come from the devil. No exact rule of the thumb.

That's religion brainwashing you. Of course, the Catholic Church doesn't want you to"cleanse your mind" or else logic might seep in and their brainwashing/guilt trip/scare tactics might not work anymore and you will not give them any more money.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #139 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM »

Quote from: Klaus Weasley on Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 AM

That's religion brainwashing you. Of course, the Catholic Church doesn't want you to"cleanse your mind" or else logic might seep in and their brainwashing/guilt trip/scare tactics might not work anymore and you will not give them any more money.

And I also agree with you from your point of view.

barrister · « **Reply #140 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 01:46 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM

Just read the article. As a believer of JC and the Bible, I would have to partially agree with the catholic priest though I'm not a catholic. I have conditioned my mind (well as much and often as possible), to always fill it with God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus' teachings etc. There are times when I empty my mind, madaming tukso. And sometimes, the temptation may come from my creative mind or maybe from the devil himself. We may or may not know. But it is also "possible" that it may come from the devil. No exact rule of the thumb.

I have a friend who is now a medical doctor, who used to be a member of the Ananda Marga, a religious group that practices tantra yoga. He says meditation requires you to empty your mind. Since it's impossible to think of nothing while meditating, the technique is to concentrate on a mantra, so that it's easier to block all other thoughts out.

He says "om" is a universal mantra, meaning it's a simple all-purpose mantra that works for everyone, which is why it's the mantra used by beginners.

For more advanced students, the guru assigns a personal mantra that can only be used by the person to whom it was assigned. It's usually a very long mantra, and you're not allowed to reveal it to anyone else. You're not even allowed to write it down. Kinuwento niya sa akin noong member pa siya, nahihiya daw siya sa guru, napakahaba ng mantra niya, nakakalimutan daw niya noong una, kaya pinapaulit pa niya sa guru during the next meditation sessions.

Tama na ang "om" ay isang yogic tool for emptying the mind. But it's not true that the devil can possess you while your mind is empty. Para kang robot na gagawin mo ang inutos sa iyo? That goes against free will.

For example, may galit ka sa isang tao. The devil reinforces your own hatred and tempts you to kill him. The devil tempts you to kill by deceiving you into believing that killing is justified in this case. Tapos pinatay mo nga.

So the evil thoughts actually originated with you, and the devil only tempted you to act. So you still killed out of your own free will. Hindi yung nag-meditate ka lang, tapos nung nagising ka, bigla kang nagdecide na patayin si Pedro...

The idea is nothing new. I think it first became popular after the movie "The Exorcist" was released. Delikado daw ang Ouija board, because it opens you up to demonic possession. Sumunod, noong nauso ang "TM" (transcendental meditation), ang sabi naman, yoga and meditation open you up to demonic possession.

These days, ang uso, New Age practices will open you up to demonic possession.

bass_nut · « **Reply #141 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 04:10 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Dec 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM

And I also agree with you from your point of view.

OFF TOPIC

despite EXTREMELY hateful comment from a chronic pseudo-genius, your kindness and tolerance are quite admirable, sir Nelson

barrister · « **Reply #142 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 04:22 PM »

Masama talaga ang maging hater, it's bad for your health...

bass_nut · « **Reply #143 on:** Dec 13, 2014 at 07:18 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Dec 13, 2014 at 04:22 PM

Masama talaga ang maging hater, it's bad for your health...

100% TRUE, sir barrister

rascal101 · « **Reply #144 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 09:47 AM »

Quote from: eee.dee on Sep 17, 2012 at 06:05 PM

“Religion is something left over from the infancy of our intelligence, it will fade away as we adopt reason and science as our guidelines.” -Bertrand Russell

If we were not colonized by white people with crosses, we might be as progressive as Japan today.

It is also likely that we would be in deeper crap. What if we were colonized by the Chinese?

Quitacet · « **Reply #145 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 10:09 AM »

Quote from: rascal101 on Feb 02, 2015 at 09:47 AM

It is also likely that we would be in deeper crap. What if we were colonized by the Chinese?

What's wrong with the Chinese?

rascal101 · « **Reply #146 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 10:12 AM »

Nothing wrong. It is a what if question. No one knows.

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #147 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 01:00 PM »

Si master Tony tanungin niyo. Hehe!

dodie · « **Reply #148 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 01:15 PM »

Quote from: Nelson de Leon on Feb 02, 2015 at 01:00 PM

Si master Tony tanungin niyo. Hehe!

kung chinese, malamang hindi ka de leon, de leung ka master!

kung japanese, malamang de reung ka master!

kung amerikano, malamang of lion ka master!

rascal101 · « **Reply #149 on:** Feb 02, 2015 at 04:34 PM »

Darami ang singkit sa Pilipinas kung sinakop tayo ng mga Intsik. Tsaka baka mas maraming makikitang OA sa beach kasi darami na magdadala ng payong - marami kasi intsik takot sa araw at ayaw nilang umitim. Full body suit na rin ang magiging normal na kasuotan.