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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #150 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 06:01 PM »
Yang church of satan, member ba si GMA and FG dyan? ;D
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #151 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 06:07 PM »


Depende sa point of view yon, e ...  :D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #152 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 06:08 PM »
Si Anton LaVey, naandun sya sa album inner gatefold ng EAGLES vinyl album na meron ako.
Nung kasikatan nya binanggit na he was in the inside gatefold nung Hotel California album, sa inside hotel balcony. Na mention din na that same hotel they 1st held their convention.
I was 12 years old then so syempre natakot ako! ;D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #153 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 06:30 PM »


That's never been confirmed.  Yung picture naman ay madilim na, malabo pa:






Si Anton LaVey ba yung nasa bintana?  Puwede siguro, pero ang labo ng picture, e.


Anyway, here's what snopes.com says: http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/hotel.asp




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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #154 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 06:35 PM »
Yes, mismo! Sya yun nasa 2nd fl. Mas malinaw yung sa actual album. Katakot!
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #155 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 07:08 PM »
o.t.

welcome to the hotel california.........You can checkout any time you like, But you can never leave!  ;D

^ one of my all-time faves, along with - stairway to heaven & sympathy for the devil  ;D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #156 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 07:24 PM »
+ 1 on Sympathy for the Devil (both the Rolling Stones original and the G N' R cover used in the Interwith With a Vampire soundtrack)

also Satan Orbital + Kirk Hammett sa Spawn soundtrack naman  ;D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #157 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 07:28 PM »
Nahahalata yung mga gurang, a ...  :D  YouTube naman para hindi boring ...  8)



Hotel California backmasking on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodaLlkn2cU


Hotel California album art on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_1_d2m0ew

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #158 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 07:40 PM »
Nahahalata yung mga gurang, a ...  :D  YouTube naman para hindi boring ...  8)


Hotel California album art on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_1_d2m0ew

Hotel California backmasking on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodaLlkn2cU


hindi tumatanda ang vampira. basta lagi may sariwang laman, este dinuguan pala. kitamo si tom "church of scientology" cruise ;D
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #159 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 08:36 PM »
Nahahalata yung mga gurang, a ...  :D  YouTube naman para hindi boring ...  8)



Hotel California backmasking on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WodaLlkn2cU


Hotel California album art on YouTube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_1_d2m0ew



Wow, backmasking. Haven't heard that word in a loooong time. Malamang di na alam ng mga bata ngayon yan. ;D
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #160 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 09:57 PM »
 :D Madali kasing mag reverse sa vinyl records noon.

Ngayon, wala yatang CD-MP3 player na puwedeng mag reverse play.  Kailangan pang i-encode nang reverse.   

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #161 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 10:25 PM »
di ba si Anton LaVey din ung nasa cover ng sgt pepper?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #162 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 11:00 PM »
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #163 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 11:01 PM »
Don't you guys think a separate thread would be more appropriate for this tangent?
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #164 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 11:11 PM »
Hotel California - Anton LaVey - Satanism - religion;

Hotel California - backmasking - Satanism - religion;

Sgt. Pepper - Aleister Crowley - occultism - religion.

Hindi naman masyadong malayo ang OT.







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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #165 on: Jul 29, 2011 at 11:15 PM »
From what I gather, the tangent has been mainly concerned with pop culture manifestations of Satanism and /or Occultism and not the beliefs or practices of said religions. In which case, it's proper to move it to a separate thread.


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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #166 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 01:46 AM »


Sorry guys if i went out of the topic. i didn't know that this would have a lot of feed backs.
Sorry po admin. I hope i'm not banned here at Pdvd. God bless everyone here.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #167 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 03:26 AM »
No, that's not it.  Adam, Eve, the serpent and God understood each other clearly.  They were all talking about physical death.

Romans 5:12-13


God is talking about spiritual death... the serpent is very subtle... it attacks adam and eve kung saan sila mahina - physical and human pride. Pleasant in the eyes and will make them wise.

same pa rin sa nangyayari ngayon... laging may bumubulong sa tenga ng tao na walang Diyos and those who believe that there is no God can be considered mas matalino kesa sa mga naniniwala sa Diyos. Very old trick but still very effective.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #168 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 07:30 AM »
the Holy month of Ramadan (09/01/1432H) coming soon. Ramadan kareem! (ramadan is generous)

"baligtad" na naman ang araw at gabi sa middleeast

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #169 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 07:39 AM »

God is talking about spiritual death... the serpent is very subtle... it attacks adam and eve kung saan sila mahina - physical and human pride. Pleasant in the eyes and will make them wise.


Where did pride come from? If man was made in the image of God does that mean God is also proud?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #170 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 11:13 AM »
Romans 5:12-13


God is talking about spiritual death... the serpent is very subtle... it attacks adam and eve kung saan sila mahina - physical and human pride. Pleasant in the eyes and will make them wise.


No, Romans 5 is different.  It's about the effect of the the fall of man.  It does not discuss how Adam understood God when he was warned about the forbidden fruit.

The result of the fall of man was both spiritual and physical death, but the resulting spiritual death was not clarified by God as part of His warning to Adam.

God's only warning was, "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

After Adam sinned, sana sinabi ng Diyos kay Adan, "Do you remember what I said about you dying on the same day? I meant spiritual death."  Pero wala namang sinabi ang Diyos na ganon.

Instead, God cursed Adam to "return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."  Since physical death was the warning, then physical death was the penalty.

But religious pastors can't explain why Adam did not die physically on the same day that he ate the fruit, that's why they say Adam died only spiritually and not physically.  E di lusot na.  Hindi niya kasi kayang ipaliwanag, e ...  :D

Which brings us back to the original question.  If on the day he eats the fruit, Adam would surely die physically, why did he continue living for many more years?  




The key is accurate translation.  Here's the rendition from YLT (Young's Literal Translation):

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202:17&version=YLT



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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #171 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 11:37 AM »
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But religious pastors can't explain why Adam did not die physically on the same day that he ate the fruit, that's why they say Adam died only spiritually and not physically.  E di lusot na.  Hindi niya kasi kayang ipaliwanag, e ...  Cheesy

+100  ;D

dati on our retreat i asked the priest (curious ako e) kung bakit Sto. Niño ang tawag kay jesus when he was young, and bakit hindi Sto Jesus na nung tumanda siya. Sabi lang niya sakin dont question the church  :D :D :D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #172 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 12:13 PM »
sir barrister ano ang religion niyo if you dont mind me asking. very well versed kasi kayo sa bible. did you take up theology?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #173 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 01:00 PM »
sir barrister ano ang religion niyo if you dont mind me asking.

I consider myself a Christian, but I'm not a member of any sect.


did you take up theology?

Yes, but only the Religion/Theology subjects in Catholic school.

Not very helpful, since I don't believe in Catholic doctrine.

 

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #174 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 05:08 PM »
so you dont attend any sunday service sir?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #175 on: Jul 30, 2011 at 10:37 PM »
so you dont attend any sunday service sir?

No, sir.   

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #176 on: Jul 31, 2011 at 12:10 AM »

No, Romans 5 is different.  It's about the effect of the the fall of man.  It does not discuss how Adam understood God when he was warned about the forbidden fruit.

The result of the fall of man was both spiritual and physical death, but the resulting spiritual death was not clarified by God as part of His warning to Adam.

God's only warning was, "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

After Adam sinned, sana sinabi ng Diyos kay Adan, "Do you remember what I said about you dying on the same day? I meant spiritual death."  Pero wala namang sinabi ang Diyos na ganon.

Instead, God cursed Adam to "return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."  Since physical death was the warning, then physical death was the penalty.

But religious pastors can't explain why Adam did not die physically on the same day that he ate the fruit, that's why they say Adam died only spiritually and not physically.  E di lusot na.  Hindi niya kasi kayang ipaliwanag, e ...  :D

Which brings us back to the original question.  If on the day he eats the fruit, Adam would surely die physically, why did he continue living for many more years?  




The key is accurate translation.  Here's the rendition from YLT (Young's Literal Translation):

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%202:17&version=YLT






Hindi kaya immortal sila Adam & Eve before they ate the fruit? Hence punishment, mortality?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #177 on: Jul 31, 2011 at 09:35 AM »

Hindi kaya immortal sila Adam & Eve before they ate the fruit? Hence punishment, mortality?

That's right.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #178 on: Aug 02, 2011 at 01:45 AM »
If only religious group would play top trumps instead of going to war with each other – here's what it will say about each religion ...








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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #179 on: Aug 03, 2011 at 06:42 AM »
...and those who believe that there is no God can be considered mas matalino kesa sa mga naniniwala sa Diyos

Bakit po ninyo nasabi yan?