Topic: The Religion Thread

[rascal101]

Hindi lahat posible sa mundo natin. Iyun ang katotohanan.

May mga hitsura hindi posible pero posible pala pero mayroon mga hindi posible na hindi talaga posible.

Kung posible lahat para sa iyo palagay ko diyos ka. Sa pagkakaalam ko diyos lang may kaya nito.

Halimbawa lang, sino ang alam mong hindi diyos nakabuhay ng patay?

But what is not possible before is possible now. Maybe there is no limit to what is possible. If it can be imagined, it can be possible. Because all that happens in our world begins with a single thought.

[rascal101]

There are hard rules that cannot be bent.

Religion evolves with society. Because it is man made. So whatever it sets as possible evolves as well.

[bumblebee]

If space can be warped, chicken lang ang hard rules.

[rascal101]

Ang tanong kaya bang i warp?

Sige imagine pa more ...

[dpogs]

Iyong mga naglilingkod sa gobyerno at sa tao maiintindihan pa natin whether they believe in God or not they serve the government and the people they are the sevant of public but not God.

But these so called "Pastors" and/or "Priest" na tinaguriang tagapaglingkod ng Diyos, a servant of God, a messenger of God and kapag nagkasala ang sasabihin lang natin "tao lang naman sila please understand them"

Yes... Tao nga lang sila pero sila ay tagapaglingkod ng Diyos hindi ng tao kaya inaasahan namin silang mamuhay ng naaayon sa batas ng Diyos at hindi dapat nagtatago ng kakilakilabot na kasalanan. Do not compare priest/pastors to common people like us, they have all the oppurtunity to not commit sins they even preach the Word of God... Nagkasala sila hindi dahil sa tao lang sila at makasalanan... Nagawa nilang mangabuso ng bata kasi gusto nila.

Kung makapanglait tayo sa mga politiko akala mo eh mga anak na sila ng demonyo... Samantalang mas maraming mga huwad na pari at pastor na ginagamit ang pangalan ng Diyos para sa kanilang sariling laman. Ginagamit ang simbahan para mambiktima ng kabataan. Ginagamit ang bibliya para yumaman.

Minsan napapaisip talaga ako... Siguro tama silang mga mangmang na atheist... Kaya siguro nasasabi ng mga atheist na ito na hipokrito tayo... Kasi maraming mga pari at pastor pati mga kristiyano sama na ako na hindi ipinapamuhay ang salita ng Diyos.

Nagkasala ang pari/pastor:
- sagot ni christian: tao lang kasi nagkakasala... mapapatawad sila ng diyos.

Nagkasala ang isang hindi naniniwala sa Diyos:
- sagot ni christian: wala kasi silang diyos... mga anak sila ng demonyo... ibitay ang mga yan...

Ang daya naman ng mga kristiyano

[bumblebee]

It is already warped. Any object with mass warps spacetime.

[Pipo_1925]

Hindi lahat posible sa mundo natin. Iyun ang katotohanan.

May mga hitsura hindi posible pero posible pala pero mayroon mga hindi posible na hindi talaga posible.

Kung posible lahat para sa iyo palagay ko diyos ka. Sa pagkakaalam ko diyos lang may kaya nito.

Halimbawa lang, sino ang alam mong hindi diyos nakabuhay ng patay?

eto sir baka lahat posible kay tigkal

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[dpogs]

It is already warped. Any object with mass warps spacetime.

A fact or still a theory?

[Nelson de Leon]

What I mean is it will be explained scientifically. If we are talking of Deity, it means no need to explain, just believe, just as what religion is now. It is faith that drives it, not logic or science. And if Deity, it means no one made them. But if higher intelligence, maybe someone also made them just like we were made. Anyway these are just wild ideas but good point to ponder where to stand when and if it will happen.

Baligtad ata sir. If Deity based, the Deity made them. If science or higher intelligence, either life came from nowhere (Big Bang), or life emerged from something (natural selection ata ang tawag).

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[bumblebee]

You can't deny the math dpogs. Here's something you might find interesting.

https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2007/apr/15/spaceexploration.universe

[dpogs]

You can't deny the math dpogs. Here's something you might find interesting.

https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2007/apr/15/spaceexploration.universe

Its a mathematical equation. Whats the definition of space/time ni enstein? His mathematical model is true based on his observation during his time. Ano ba ang nabebent na measurable during his time of observation?

[bumblebee]

It wasn't his observation dpogs. We're talking einstein not newton. Einstein used diff calc to explain gravity. Math came first as opposed to newton where he invented calculus to explain his observation.

[dpogs]

Yes i am talking about einstein space-time... I mean einstein's space-time the equation is true but not to all possible definition of space-time.

What is bent that is measurable during einstien time = einstien's space-time but not my definition of space-time

Ano ba specifically ang tinutukoy ni einstein na "space/time"? Kasi kung space na nothingness then common sense na lang we cant bend nothing. If we talk about trajectories baka mag agree ako sa iyo.

[bumblebee]

Space time as in x, y, z axes plus time. As 3d plus time. Empty space is not nothing dpogs.

[dpogs]

Space time as in x, y, z axes plus time. As 3d plus time. Empty space is not nothing dpogs.

So basically were talking about trajectories complicated lang nga lang.

[bumblebee]

No we're talking about the space around us. Plus time.

[dpogs]

No we're talking about the space around us. Plus time.

Yup. To make it simple - trajectories

[bumblebee]

No. Trajectory is a path in space.

[dpogs]

No. Trajectory is a path in space.

No more question here. I will stop here.

[rascal101]

Ang layo naman ng narating ng usapan. Hard rules ba kamo ...

Iyung 10 utos ng diyos hindi nag e evolve gaya ng ginugusto mo.

Ang tao na gustong pahayahay gusto nag eevolve dahil ang mali ginagawang tama - ito mga gawain ng abogado. Paikot ikot gaya nitong warping ... walang patutunguhan ... pahabaan na lang tayo ng ihi para sure na meron mananalo ... hahaha

You can't deny the math dpogs. Here's something you might find interesting.

https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2007/apr/15/spaceexploration.universe

[bumblebee]

Where did cain get his wife again?

[rascal101]

Pumayag ba ang Diyos?

[bumblebee]

It does seem he allowed a lot things.

Question is, didn't god see it coming?

[rascal101]

Bakit ba pumapayag ang Diyos na ang tao gumawa ng kalokohan? Iyun ang sagot sa tanong mo.

[dpogs]

Where did cain get his wife again?

Posibble his sister or niece.

[rascal101]

Daming haka haka pero walang matinong sagot ...

Posibble his sister or niece.

[dpogs]

Daming haka haka pero walang matinong sagot ...

Di kasi specific kung kapatid, pamangkin o apo ang napangasawa ni cain pero sigurado ako na kamaganak ang napangasawa niya.

[dpogs]

Atheist are more peace loving than religious persons. They tend to more open minded. If you look at mankind's history, wars are waged in the name of religion. So I guess there will come a time that people will be fed up with religion and agree to ban all religion to stop the wars.

Yup. There will be a time soon that this world will ban all religion but will create one universal religion uniting the world and will not stop the war but will declare a great war against Israel.

[Nelson de Leon]

It does seem he allowed a lot things.

Question is, didn't god see it coming?

I agree with you. God seems to allow a lot of things. Did he see it coming? Perhaps? Hehe! Mahabang usapin yan because next topic would be predestination na. 

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[ninjababez®]

Tama. Mga tinaguriang alagad ng Diyos ang mga pari/pastor/etc pero sila ang number one sa paggawa ng nakakakilabot na kasalanan ng mundo. Akalain mong menor edad na bata ipapasok mo sa motel. Mauunawaan ko pa kung isang simpleng tao ang gumawa nyan pero hindi eh... King sino pa ang tinaguriang pari o pastor siya pa ang gagawa ng karumal dumal na kasalanan.

mauunawaan?  kahit sinong gumawa nyan bro di ko mauunawaan!