Topic: The Religion Thread

[ninjababez®]

Wala pa naman akong kilala na na-meet personally na hindi nagkamali or nagkasala based sa 10 commandments.

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pero dahil mabuti kang public servant master fluffy, tanggap mo parin kami

[dpogs]

mauunawaan?  kahit sinong gumawa nyan bro di ko mauunawaan!

yes sir. paano pa kaya kung pari o pastor ang gumawa aba eh lalong di mo mauunawaan bakit pa nila nagawa ang ganoong klaseng kasalanan... malamang lamang hindi lang yan isang beses nangyari matagal na niyang ginagawa yan. sasabihin lang "tao lang po kasi nagkakasala din" tsk that is not an excuse you're a priest/pastor for goodness sake araw araw mong kaharap ang Bible, araw araw kang nagsesermon sa likod ng alter, tapos may ganoong klaseng kasalanan kaya ko nasabi na mauunawaan ko pa kung hindi pari/pastor ang nagkasala nang ganoon.

[Nelson de Leon]

pero dahil mabuti kang public servant master fluffy, tanggap mo parin kami

Haha!

[rascal101]

Kapag iisa na ang tao sa mundo ... hehehe

Yup. There will be a time soon that this world will ban all religion but will create one universal religion uniting the world and will not stop the war but will declare a great war against Israel.

[rascal101]

Hindi tama na hindi mauunawaan dahil nauunawaan ng mga tao eh. Ang Diyos nga nagpapatawad. Sino ka para hindi umunawa o hindi magpatawad???

Ang tamang sagot ay mahirap tanggapin o hindi katanggap tanggap na kung sino pa ang nasa pwesto siya pa ang gumagawa ng ganitong kalokohan.

yes sir. paano pa kaya kung pari o pastor ang gumawa aba eh lalong di mo mauunawaan bakit pa nila nagawa ang ganoong klaseng kasalanan... malamang lamang hindi lang yan isang beses nangyari matagal na niyang ginagawa yan. sasabihin lang "tao lang po kasi nagkakasala din" tsk that is not an excuse you're a priest/pastor for goodness sake araw araw mong kaharap ang Bible, araw araw kang nagsesermon sa likod ng alter, tapos may ganoong klaseng kasalanan kaya ko nasabi na mauunawaan ko pa kung hindi pari/pastor ang nagkasala nang ganoon.

[bumblebee]

I agree with you. God seems to allow a lot of things. Did he see it coming? Perhaps? Hehe! Mahabang usapin yan because next topic would be predestination na. 

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He should have seen it coming. It was he who told them to go forth and multiply. So it seemed like incest was okay one time and then became evil?

[rascal101]

We do not fully know the intentions of God. We will never be any position to dictate our will to God. Rather than questioning God, we should ask ourselves are we worthy in his eyes?

He should have seen it coming. It was he who told them to go forth and multiply. So it seemed like incest was okay one time and then became evil?

[rascal101]

Kung gusto mo kumontra sa Diyos sa kanya ka mismo magtanong o dumebate. Huwag mong tatanungin kapwa mo tao.

He should have seen it coming. It was he who told them to go forth and multiply. So it seemed like incest was okay one time and then became evil?

[rascal101]

Hindi po tama na sabihin na "it seemed like incest ..." dahil hindi mo alam ang buong kaganapan. Sa ganitong kaso ang masasabi lang natin ay nangyari na at wala na tayong magagawa. Kung saan pa man lupalop nanggaling ang asawa ni Cain, ang Diyos na mismo nakakaalam. Pinayagan niya o sumang ayon siya, wala na tayo doon.

He should have seen it coming. It was he who told them to go forth and multiply. So it seemed like incest was okay one time and then became evil?

[bumblebee]

I'm not questioning god, I'm questioning religion's teachings.

Hindi ka naman obligadong sumagot sa tanong kung hindi mo alam sagot. But let others ask and let others answer.

[rascal101]

This is NOT religions teachings. Maybe from your point of view it is but I think this is just you maintaining it is.

I'm not questioning god, I'm questioning religion's teachings.

Hindi ka naman obligadong sumagot sa tanong kung hindi mo alam sagot. But let others ask and let others answer.

[bumblebee]

Are you saying merong ibang tao aside from adam and eve?

[rascal101]

Tao ka nga ba? Ako hayop - aso ako este lamok pala ...

Are you saying merong ibang tao aside from adam and eve?

[rascal101]

Kausapin mo nga ang Diyos huwag mga kapwa mo tao. Magdasal ka para malinawan ka.

Ang haka haka po iikot lang ng iikot ang kwento. Walang hangganan. Posible may makasagot ng "katanggap tanggap" pero meron ulit kokontra kasi mas magaling o mas katanggap tanggap ang paliwanag.

Kung gusto mo doon ka sa showbiz. Dami kwento doon haka haka. Bagay doon.

[bumblebee]

And there you go. This exchange shows why and how i think religion will die a natural death.

[ninjababez®]

Kung gusto mo kumontra sa Diyos sa kanya ka mismo magtanong o dumebate. Huwag mong tatanungin kapwa mo tao.

Kung gusto mo kumontra sa Diyos sa kanya ka mismo magtanong o dumebate. Huwag mong tatanungin kapwa mo tao.

dont start guys, di nanaman mattapos yan usapan na yan

[rascal101]

^tama po kayo diyan kaya sinabi ko iikot ng iikot itong usapan eh.

Problema po kasi gusto pag usapan mga bagay na nagsimula sa haka haka. Wala talagang patutunguhan iyun.

[bumblebee]

Problema yung walang maisagot sa tanong tapos sasabihing wag mo nang itanong. E meron namang willing sumagot.

[dpogs]

And there you go. This exchange shows why and how i think religion will die a natural death.

Sensiya na po.

Anyway religion will not die a natural death. Eventually religion will unite the world to rebel against God and then God will destroy religion and this earth.


To answer your question regarding Cain's wife. Yes he marry his own sister or his niece or grandniexe. Why God allows incest during time of Adam and Eve. Please take note that Eve originally came from Adam's body. Adam and eve did not have any genetic defects and their childrend had no other choice but to marry their own sisters and brothers. But during Moses time God declares that it is wrong and we already know why it is wrong.

[bumblebee]

Thank you dpogs. So yun nga, incest was okay at one point.

[rascal101]

But you already knew that even before you asked the question.

Thank you dpogs. So yun nga, incest was okay at one point.

[rascal101]

If barrister was active, he would have already cited the bible text regarding this matter. And presented his analysis.

The text is unclear because after Cain is exiled he suddenly is married and builds a city.

[bumblebee]

I know, and it bothers me.

[dpogs]

Thank you dpogs. So yun nga, incest was okay at one point.

Take note that sexual relation between close relatives viewed differently pre-Law and post-Law. It did not become incest until God commanded against it.

Relationship between close relatives becore the Law should not be viewed incestous.

[bumblebee]

That's lawyering dpogs. And the more you try to explain, the more it bothers.

[dpogs]

That's lawyering dpogs. And the more you try to explain, the more it bothers.

Because we think of incest differently today that is why it bothers us and ask why God allows it

[Nelson de Leon]

He should have seen it coming. It was he who told them to go forth and multiply. So it seemed like incest was okay one time and then became evil?

Ah. I thought you were asking a general question and not about the Cain thing. Well I guess you got your answer. Yeah God knows that will happen. If it wasn't okay, and assuming you believe in the bible, I guess we all wouldn't be here right now. Hehe!

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[tony]

inbreeding produces offspring with recessive genes, mental and physical deformities and we do not want the human race to go the way of cats, dogs and monkeys so inbreeding became taboo, there is a scientific reason why it became taboo...

the reason for banning incest is a practical way to ensure the human race survive...

[rascal101]

There are possibilities like Cain married his sister or that that God created another person etc.

For me I would rather leave it as is because there is no point discussing something which no one can fully answer satisfactorily.

I know, and it bothers me.

[drhiredgun]

Problema yung walang maisagot sa tanong tapos sasabihing wag mo nang itanong. E meron namang willing sumagot.

Ang malaking problema ay kung tinanong mo ang diyos......at sumagot siya.