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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2070 on: Jan 08, 2016 at 03:31 PM »
when Jesus returns and then asks you what have you done with the rest of my children?
what will you answer?


Jesus need ever ask, He knows what is truly in our hearts and minds even without asking, after all Jesus is God....

I just follow your lead :-)

Thankfully, Jesus knows also how to have a good conversation. Even though He knows our heart and mind, He still choose to ask questions. If you read the Bible, oftentimes Jesus opens up the conversation with a question. :-)
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2071 on: Jan 08, 2016 at 04:13 PM »
but the difference is Jesus knows your answer even before you open your mouth....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2072 on: Jan 26, 2016 at 09:38 AM »
Copied from the INC doctrines, issues & politics thread:

by faith....everything naman is by faith....Jesus can tell as He can look into your heart,
kung ang pakikipagdebate mo ay para lang magpa-impress, makalikap ng maraming member
at makuhanan mo ng marming ikapu.....Kita ng Diyos yan.....walang nalilihim sa kanya....
Yun lang. Hehe!
^pag nagbalik ba si Jesus, tatanungin ka ba tungkol sa bible?
aalamin ba nya ang laman ng utak mo kung ilang bersikulo at capitulo ang kaya mong irecite?

sa palagay ko, hindi ang laman ng utak mo at ng bulsa mo ang mahalaga kay Jesus,
bagkus ang laman ng puso mo, at hindi mo yan maikukubli sa kanya...
mabobola mo ang demonyo pero hindi ang Dyos....

Sino ba dito nagsasabi na yun ang tatanungin ng Diyos? Hehe!

Paano mo malalaman na ang laman ng puso mo ay sang-ayon sa gusto Niya?

Nun ikaw ba ay nanligaw sapat na ba na katwiran yun mahal mo ang nililigawan mo para sagutin ka niya? Hindi mo ba inaalam ang paborito niyang pagkain, lugar pasyalan, paboritong damit etc.?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2073 on: Jan 26, 2016 at 01:02 PM »
but the difference is Jesus knows your answer even before you open your mouth....

Would He know your answer if you don't open your mouth?

See def.Foreknowledge. Afaik, He would know if you answer or do not answer. etc I you did answer then He knows what it exactly is. ie. He did not put the words in your mouth, its you who answered.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2074 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 01:22 PM »

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2075 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 01:33 PM »
^Ito siguro nagpapaikot ng buhay mo kaya masakit sa iyo maging Katoliko. Hindi lang pagtatalik ang buhay natin. Iyan ang problema kapag walang libangan o walang magawa.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2076 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 01:36 PM »
Would He know your answer if you don't open your mouth?

See def.Foreknowledge. Afaik, He would know if you answer or do not answer. etc I you did answer then He knows what it exactly is. ie. He did not put the words in your mouth, its you who answered.

no one knows for sure.....but he will know what is in your heart....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2077 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 04:08 PM »
^Ito siguro nagpapaikot ng buhay mo kaya masakit sa iyo maging Katoliko. Hindi lang pagtatalik ang buhay natin. Iyan ang problema kapag walang libangan o walang magawa.

Did you even bother to read it? You should!

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2078 on: Jan 27, 2016 at 04:21 PM »
Sex is good if it is in proper PTP (place, time and partner).

Comparing human to animal? Well if you think you're animal enough to satisfy your body's desire anytime, anywhere at kung kanikanino wala na akong magagawa.

I believe human doesnt belong to animal kingdom. Human must have complete control over their body and its desires. Sexual pleasure is good if its in proper PTP.

I believe that sex organ were created primarily for reproduction not for sexual pleasure secondary na lang yan. Sa tingin mo kaya dadami ang tao kung ang pakikipagtalik ay parang disyerto sa hirap at walang kasarap sarap? Parang pagtatae yan, walang taong gaganahang tumae kung hindi masarap tumae. Primarily anus ginawa para sa pagtatae hindi for pleasure.

Yan ang malaking problema ng tao noon pa man hanggang ngayon, ang sundin ang pita ng kanilang mga laman...
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2079 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 03:49 AM »
Sex is good if it is in proper PTP (place, time and partner).

Comparing human to animal? Well if you think you're animal enough to satisfy your body's desire anytime, anywhere at kung kanikanino wala na akong magagawa.

I believe human doesnt belong to animal kingdom. Human must have complete control over their body and its desires. Sexual pleasure is good if its in proper PTP.

I believe that sex organ were created primarily for reproduction not for sexual pleasure secondary na lang yan. Sa tingin mo kaya dadami ang tao kung ang pakikipagtalik ay parang disyerto sa hirap at walang kasarap sarap? Parang pagtatae yan, walang taong gaganahang tumae kung hindi masarap tumae. Primarily anus ginawa para sa pagtatae hindi for pleasure.

Yan ang malaking problema ng tao noon pa man hanggang ngayon, ang sundin ang pita ng kanilang mga laman...

After years of debate re Darwin's theory of evolution, hindi pa din tayo nag-evolve. Animals pa din tayo. Hehe! Uso din sa animal kingdom ang cannibalism, incest, killing to survive. So pano yan?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2080 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 08:43 AM »
^kaya nga ang turo ng maraming religion, huwag kang magnakaw.....
how do we defend our freedom? by the truth when it is assaulted by Marcos lies....

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2081 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:03 AM »
bakit kaya lagi na lang about "sex" ang topic ni KW kapag pinaguusapan ang Roman Catholics ???
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2082 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:07 AM »
KW is an SPO. sexually preoccupied....he lives and breathes SEX....
« Last Edit: Jan 28, 2016 at 09:07 AM by tony »
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2083 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 12:19 PM »
Did you even bother to read it? You should!

"How Catholicism is ruining your sex life" - do I even have to bother reading it?

It is not bothering my sex life. And I follow what the Catholic Church teaches. My wife still loves me after all these years. She also follows Catholic Church teachings.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2084 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 12:21 PM »
bakit kaya lagi na lang about "sex" ang topic ni KW kapag pinaguusapan ang Roman Catholics ???


Sama mo na rin iyung tungkol sa pari :)

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2085 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 12:31 PM »
d kaya anak ng paring katoliko yang si KW? >:D
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2086 on: Jan 28, 2016 at 02:08 PM »
d kaya anak ng paring katoliko yang si KW? >:D



da hu? bishop x ?

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2087 on: Feb 13, 2016 at 05:04 AM »
binasa ko yung article na pinost ni Klaus. I actually find it a good read. may point dinnaman yung author which is a psychologist, Valerie Tarico. mentioning respect sa women, equality sa lahat ng tao, etc. and the article doesn't just promote sex like tong part na to, number 14 sa Here are 15 things the Catholic Church teaches that are ruining your sex life — even if you’re not religious:

14. Sex is so important that it’s worth scripting your life around having the right kind and avoiding the wrong kinds.

Yes, sex is wonderful. Orgasm is a pleasure unlike any other, and sexual intimacy releases powerful feelings of wellbeing and connection. There’s a good evolutionary reason for that. But honestly, life offers many other forms of intimacy and pleasure. Those of us who aren’t jacked on adolescent hormones or else devoting major psychic energy to sexual repression have better things to do most of the time—things like being kind, curious, imaginative, industrious or nurturing—or savoring one of life’s other delights. Just because the Church is obsessed with sex doesn’t mean we all are.

So, just saying na di naman lahat ng post ni Klaus ay anti-religion or pro atheist. yung iba may sense din naman.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2088 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 07:17 AM »
i remember a classmate in high school, nung tinuro ng teacher para magrecite ng topic, aba eh, pati comma, quotation raks at iba pa, nairecite....

religion should teach only one thing, "huwag kang magnakaw" yun lang at titino ang ating mundo...

nagtrabaho ako sa algeria ng higit three years, ang katwiran ng mga local, kaya raw maraming alibaba
ay kasalanan ng may-ari, sa kanila pag tinalikuran mo ang gamit mo, or iniwan mo na lang basta,
ibig sabihin daw noon ay ayaw mona at pwede na nilang kunin....katwirang arabo....

maliit lang ang porsiyento ng population ng tao ang mga magnanakaw and yet di pa rin matino ang ating mundo.

kayang sundin ng isang tao sa buong buhay niya ang no. 1-9 ng 10 Utos maliban sa isa - no. 10. "thou shalt not covet..."

if you covet and can't obtain it then it will lead to stealing or pagnanakaw or it may lead to murder.
There is none righteous, no not one.

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2089 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 07:33 AM »
pagnanakaw is not just stealing, it is more.....
if you take the word literally then you are lost...

pag nakiapid ka sa asawa ng may asawa, then ninakawan mo ng kabiyak ang kapwa mo..
pag kinitil mo ang buhay ng kapwa mo, then ninakawan mo ng pagkalinga ang iba pa...
pag tinulugan mo ang trabaho mo, then ninakawan mo ng pagkakataon ang company mo na umunlad...
pag ikaw ay isang employer at hindi ka nag-remit ng sss at withholding taxes,
then ninakawan mo ang gobyerno, at ang kawani mo ang  mga legal na benepisyo..

religion should teach only one thing, love of fellowmen,
dahil kung mahal mo ang iyong kapwa, hindi ka magnanakaw...

if your religion teaches you about the superiority of your religion over any other,
then that is demagoguery.....
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2090 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 07:41 AM »
maliit lang ang porsiyento ng population ng tao ang mga magnanakaw and yet di pa rin matino ang ating mundo.

kayang sundin ng isang tao sa buong buhay niya ang no. 1-9 ng 10 Utos maliban sa isa - no. 10. "thou shalt not covet..."

if you covet and can't obtain it then it will lead to stealing or pagnanakaw or it may lead to murder.


you have a simplistic world view....
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2091 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 07:56 AM »
you have a simplistic world view....

"to covet" is a very simple word pero wala pang tao na nakakasunod nito maliban kay Jesus.

if you don't covet then hindi ka magnanakaw.

if you don't covet your neigbours wife then hindi ka makikiapid sa asawa ng may asawa
if you don't covet things from others then you wont kill others
if you don't covet more money then magreremit ka ng mga SSS at withholding taxes ng mga employee mo
if you don't covet sleep during work, then hindi ka matutulog sa oras ng trabaho

all sins start from our desire and then coveting...


simple lang ang ikasampung utos ng Diyos pero wala pang nakakasunod nito. "Thou shalt not covet..."
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2092 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 08:01 AM »
you still have to use the word magnakaw, that is the end result....
lahat ng pagnanakaw nagsimula sa paghahangad, yung tinawag mong covet...

maraming nakaka recite ng bible, pero duda ako na isinasapuso nila ang mga aral,
ang tingin ko, gusto lang nilang manalo ng mga debate tungkol sa bibliya...
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2093 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 08:15 AM »
you still have to use the word magnakaw, that is the end result....
lahat ng pagnanakaw nagsimula sa paghahangad, yung tinawag mong covet...

maraming nakaka recite ng bible, pero duda ako na isinasapuso nila ang mga aral,
ang tingin ko, gusto lang nilang manalo ng mga debate tungkol sa bibliya...

that is right... instead of teaching them na huwag magnakaw... teach them not to covet... dahil ang sinasabi mong "magnakaw" ay nagsisimula sa "covet".

sabi nga ni Jesus "Kung ikaw ay tumingin sa isang babae na may pagnanasa, ikaw ay nagkasala na ng pangangalunya."

ang pagtingin na may pagnanasa ay hindi nagbunga ng pagnanakaw pero siya ay nagkasala sa mata ng Diyos.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2094 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 08:36 AM »

sabi nga ni Jesus "Kung ikaw ay tumingin sa isang babae na may pagnanasa, ikaw ay nagkasala na ng pangangalunya." ang pagtingin na may pagnanasa ay hindi nagbunga ng pagnanakaw pero siya ay nagkasala sa mata ng Diyos.

Guilty ako dito pero di naman lahat ng girls...namimili din ang mata at utak natin.
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2095 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 08:42 AM »
Guilty ako dito pero di naman lahat ng girls...namimili din ang mata at utak natin.

walang masama if napalingon ka once... masama kung lumingon ka twice... :):):)
mas masama kung lumingon ka once pero mga 5 minutes naman katagal... :):):)

the lesson is never entertain any evil thought that will lead to any wrongdoing (or sabi nga "magnakaw")...
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2096 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 08:55 AM »
Okay lang lumingon kahit maraming beses o matagal ;D Now kung sa paglingon mo pa lang e, hindi mo na mapigilan sarili mo, may problema ka na ;D

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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2097 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 09:08 AM »
Di ba instinct naman yung paglingon? ???
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2098 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 09:09 AM »
Di ba instinct naman yung paglingon? ???

Animal instinct daw yun, so kapag ginawa mo, para ka rin raw hayop ;D
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Re: The Religion Thread
« Reply #2099 on: Mar 15, 2016 at 10:17 AM »
Di ba instinct naman yung paglingon? ???

It is but natural for human or animals na maatract sa opposite sex... What differentiate us from animals is we have self control or and will to control our lust.

It is also normal to every human to appreciate beauty, hence lumilingon. Pero kung ang lingon may kasamang pagnanasa at naglalaro sa isipan, then we are commiting adultery as per standard of Jesus.

Sa New Testament, iniisip pa lang natin nagkakasala na tayo.
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