Topic: Building an HTPC / Gaming Please help.

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Where can I buy this sir? Sa gilmore?

Check tipidpc brader all that price has been grab there. happy building tagal uwi ng frend ko my HTPC new build. 

[Stagea]

.

I would like to use my plasma sana for gaming.. but ok din if Monitor... what monitor would you recommend? Probably around 18 to 22 inch would do..

I was asking because you mentioned the price saying "including monitor" which is what threw me off. If you're okay with using your TV, dedicate your budget for the rest of the hardware (and software).

[Icermad]

Check tipidpc brader all that price has been grab there. happy building tagal uwi ng frend ko my HTPC new build. 

Ok bro.. almost similar nadin ba prices ng tipidpc and gilmore? Planning to go there kasi this friday... would like to know if it's still worth the effort

[Icermad]

I was asking because you mentioned the price saying "including monitor" which is what threw me off. If you're okay with using your TV, dedicate your budget for the rest of the hardware (and software).

Yes sir.. what would you recommend? I'm not looking for something na compact yung size..kahit yung traditional na casing ok lang ..but if I can achieve similar specs using compact casing vs traditional atx casing mas better... Last time I bought a pc kasi was way back 2006 kaya I know nothing about what's ok and what to avoid.. Thank you mga sir..

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Yes sir.. what would you recommend? I'm not looking for something na compact yung size..kahit yung traditional na casing ok lang ..but if I can achieve similar specs using compact casing vs traditional atx casing mas better... Last time I bought a pc kasi was way back 2006 kaya I know nothing about what's ok and what to avoid.. Thank you mga sir..

If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. 

[Icermad]

If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. 

Ok sir will check it out Mas ok nga yun...para maeliminate narin mga external HDD's ko

[Icermad]

If you like to store more HDD on the case a decent HTPC case with a lot of HDD compartment is silverstone HTPC case look for the Grandia model. 

Sir what if I take on the path of having a dedicated video card since I will also use it for gaming.. what Video Card, Mobo and Procie would you recommend? thanks!

[Stagea]

Sir what if I take on the path of having a dedicated video card since I will also use it for gaming.. what Video Card, Mobo and Procie would you recommend? thanks!

Video Chipset: AMD HD 7870 or higher
Processor: Intel 3rd Gen "Ivy Bridge" i5  (i5-3450 or higher)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Series 7 based (B75/Q75/Q77/H77/Z75/Z77)

[Icermad]

Video Chipset: AMD HD 7870 or higher
Processor: Intel 3rd Gen "Ivy Bridge" i5  (i5-3450 or higher)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Series 7 based (B75/Q75/Q77/H77/Z75/Z77)

Thank you If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Thank you If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..

Are you a hardcore gamer? Check the AMD A10-5800k in youtube playing BF3.   

[DTNS]

since you're gonna use it as both an HTPC and Gaming PC, I suggest excluding a monitor from your 30k budget. you're gonna plug it to your display, which I assume is an LED or plasma tv. 

[Stagea]

Thank you If I go that way mukhang kulang na ang budget ko na 30k hehehe.. But siguro worth it naman won't be thinking of upgrading anytime soon..

Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.

Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k.

Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950

Total Cost ~ 29810

You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits.

[Icermad]

@DTNS - Yes sir will be hooking it up with a plasma but my GF volunteered to buy me a monitor as well

@Stagea - Cge sir will check my budget and consider this set - up. Is this way better than the AMD A10 set-up? Currently not a hardcore gamer but might turn into one eventually pag naimpress sa graphics Xbox 360 lang kasi pang games ko ngayon e..not sure kung gano kalaki diff nila in terms of graphics..

[Icermad]

Are you a hardcore gamer? Check the AMD A10-5800k in youtube playing BF3.   

Yun nga ang dilemma ko sir e..If I would go for AMD or Intel... cge sir will check it out later.. This is without a GPU no? Dami din nagrerecommend ng A10 sa TPC e..

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Yun nga ang dilemma ko sir e..If I would go for AMD or Intel... cge sir will check it out later.. This is without a GPU no? Dami din nagrerecommend ng A10 sa TPC e..

amd a10 has a built in GPU which is HD7660D whic is up to 2GB memory which is already good for mid gamer. 

[Icermad]

amd a10 has a built in GPU which is HD7660D whic is up to 2GB memory which is already good for mid gamer. 

And mas efficient din sya sir for torrent downloading kesa sa I5?

[Stagea]

@Stagea - Cge sir will check my budget and consider this set - up. Is this way better than the AMD A10 set-up? Currently not a hardcore gamer but might turn into one eventually pag naimpress sa graphics Xbox 360 lang kasi pang games ko ngayon e..not sure kung gano kalaki diff nila in terms of graphics..

It is more capable, yes. It does cost more, however. Sa A10 build, you can spend the extra money on an SSD, a nice controller, an optical drive, etc.

Graphics capability, malayo sa console. Consoles are generally way behind PCs when it comes to hardware. Nadadaya lang sa software optimization, since identical ang hardware nung consoles natitweak nung game developers yung software for the hardware at hand.

[Icermad]

It is more capable, yes. It does cost more, however. Sa A10 build, you can spend the extra money on an SSD, a nice controller, an optical drive, etc.

Graphics capability, malayo sa console. Consoles are generally way behind PCs when it comes to hardware. Nadadaya lang sa software optimization, since identical ang hardware nung consoles natitweak nung game developers yung software for the hardware at hand.

Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... 

[Icermad]

Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.

Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k.

Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950

Total Cost ~ 29810

You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits.

Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? mura ahh..

[Stagea]

Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? mura ahh..

Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.

[Icermad]

Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.

Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?

Yung TDP ng i5 is 77W against sa 65W ng A10 tapos add mo pa yung video card power consumption ng i5 setup. If you will also use with HTPC better get a AMD Video card for PQ than Nvidia. 

Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... 

Ang ayaw ko lang sa SSD pag nag reformat ka hindi siya simpleng reformat may gagawin ka pang iba na extra may software na gagamitin to wipe the SSD. Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD. Sabi nga nila sa boot and sa pang open lang kita ang difference other than that in game or HTPC use same lang ng WD Black ang speed ng SSD. 

[DTNS]

@DTNS - Yes sir will be hooking it up with a plasma but my GF volunteered to buy me a monitor as well

wow! ang swerte mo naman at ganyan ka-generous ang gf mo! 

[Stagea]

Thank you sir...sa Video Card... mas ok 7870 vs GTX 660? Ano ba ok na brand for video card?

AMD over Nvidia when it comes to HT use for now (maybe Nvidia can catch up in the future). The video image quality difference is quite noticeable when running hardware-based decoding. The current Geforce 600 series delivers PQ that's better than the Radeon 4000 series, but behind the Radeon 5000 series. AMD's current generation (Radeon 7000 series) can deliver PQ that's comparable to extensive software decoding, minus the high CPU load.

[Verbl Kint]

Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD.

Magkakano na ba hybrid drives ngayon?  Still over 6k?

[Stagea]

Oo nga sir e..Pati pala SSD, OD, Controllers need ko din ibudget..pero siguro pag nagkaextra money nalang din...hehe.. Bale let's say I go for the A10, would it be way better than Xbox Graphics? Bigla ko naisip pwede nako mag G27 sa PC... 

XBOX 360 / PS3 use antiquated engines, from a computing standpoint. The Xenos (360 graphics processor) is based on the R500 series (Radeon x1000 series) design, which was popular in PCs 7 years ago. The gap versus current high end PC graphics is just staggering because of the programmability and sheer processing muscle of today's hardware (packing 68x as many transistors per chip, having the ability to run multiple chips in parallel, and running at upto 3x the clock rate).

The only thing keeping current consoles alive is the amount of optimizations done on the software to look decent while running on low spec hardware (kudos to the game developers for the effort). PC gamers hate this a lot, as a lot of games do not take advantage of the capability of PC hardware because they are optimized for consoles then ported over to the PC with fairly minor tweaks and improvements.

That being said, yes. Despite being a fraction of the power of today's top end GPUs, the A10's built-in graphics (HD 7660D) still bring in capability and performance that's well ahead of current gaming consoles. You need to pair it with fast memory to deliver the goods. You can also opt to Hybrid CrossfireX it with a dedicated HD 6670 GDDR5 model for a sizeable performance improvement with some applications (AMD Dual Graphics) for 3k PhP.

[yygoob]

Sir san pala yong I5 3450 na 7695? mura ahh..

Kasya naman if you spend it wisely (decent non-fancy parts). Mura na lang ang gamit ngayon.

Going down to an i3 is also doable, but it's only gonna save you like 2k.

Example:
Powercolor HD 7870 2GB Video ~ 8195
Intel i5-3450 Processor ~ 7695
Asus P8Z75-M LE Motherboard ~ 3395
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB DDR3 ~ 1590
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ~ 4495
HEC Cougar ST 600W PSU ~ 2190
Cooler Master Elite 343 Chassis ~ 1300
Logitech MK220 Keyboard/Mouse ~ 950

Total Cost ~ 29810

You can upgrade the keyboard/mouse and add a UPS and an SSD if budget permits.

sir saang store yang price ng 7870? ang mura...ty

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

Magkakano na ba hybrid drives ngayon?  Still over 6k?

For 1TB black price at 4800. I still go for the WD black than SSD route for the price and capacity. 

sir saang store yang price ng 7870? ang mura...ty

Gaisano sa Gilmore. All prices except yung casing, power supply at kb/mouse sa kanila ko kinuha. Yung price ng power supply, casing at kb/mouse sa PC Hub ko kinuha.

[Icermad]

Yung TDP ng i5 is 77W against sa 65W ng A10 tapos add mo pa yung video card power consumption ng i5 setup. If you will also use with HTPC better get a AMD Video card for PQ than Nvidia. 

Ang ayaw ko lang sa SSD pag nag reformat ka hindi siya simpleng reformat may gagawin ka pang iba na extra may software na gagamitin to wipe the SSD. Why not get a WD Black than SSD may 5K ng WD black dito sa PDVD compare sa 120GB lang na tig 5K na SSD. Sabi nga nila sa boot and sa pang open lang kita ang difference other than that in game or HTPC use same lang ng WD Black ang speed ng SSD. 

Thank you sir.. will take note of your recommendations.. excited nako for tom

[Icermad]

wow! ang swerte mo naman at ganyan ka-generous ang gf mo! 

Hahaha.... oo nga e.. nagulat din ako..supported ako sa gastos ko... Wifey material for me... madali magupgrade ng gears in the future...hahaha