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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #120 on: Dec 17, 2011 at 08:57 PM »
Dutch Catholic Church abused children.

Wow...just wow. Bakit sa Philippines wala masyado narereport? (3, maybe 4....adult women over the years I've been alive) Mababait ba talaga ang mga pari dito or is the Catholic Church has such a powerful stranglehold on the politicians, government officials and the poor people here that the cover-ups are far more effective?

It's easier to believe the latter rather than the former.

How "benevolent" of the Church.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #121 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 04:14 PM »
The church of the poor
by Elizabeth Angsioco

This is something that only few of us know: the Philippine Roman Catholic Church is a multi-billionaire religious and business organization. Yes, the Church is mega-rich.

We have always known that the Church, to which at least 80 per cent of Filipinos belong, is rich. Its properties like cathedrals and other big churches, expensive private Catholic colleges and universities all over the country, private hospitals, big buildings and huge tracts of land for their seminaries, etc. are there for people to see. We have always thought this as a given, normal. After all, the Church has been here longer than any of us.

No one really cared to approximate how rich the bishops really are and what the church can do if it really wanted to help poor Catholics.

We know that Catholic schools are the most expensive that only children of the rich can attend. And, yes, Catholic schools are among the best in the country. In effect, children belonging to rich families generally receive better quality education than those of poor Catholic families.

We also know that Catholic hospitals are good. Though they are not the most expensive, still, these are private hospitals that ordinary Catholics can hardly afford. Thus, these hospitals care more for those who are better off than the millions mired in poverty.

Quality education and healthcare are two of the most urgent needs of the people, and we are, as the Church claims, mostly Catholic. Yet, we never question why the Church mostly serves those who are, in the first place, able to fend for themselves.

On top of these properties and service-oriented institutions that earn by themselves are the business holdings of the various Catholic organizations in the country’s biggest business corporations. This, I think, is something that people do not know about. After all, churches are not expected to be business corporations at the same time.

Very recently, news organizations have bannered Catholic Church holdings in at least two big corporations —Philex Mining Corporation and the Bank of the Philippine Islands.

Chamber of Mines head Jerry Brimo said that as of March 31, Catholic entities owned a substantial number of shares in Philex. The Archbishop of Manila owned 3,221,135 shares; the Religious of the Virgin Mary-B with a total of 4,216,804 shares; and the Archbishop in Zamboanga owned 1,116,147 shares.

According to the Philippine Stock Exchange, as of 27 May 2011, each Philex share is valued at P20.45. This means that the Catholic Church’s holdings in the company are valued at P65,872,210.75; P86,233,641.80; and P22,825,206.15 respectively, or a total of P174,931,058.70.

In BPI’s list of its top 100 stockholders as of 31 March 2011, at least eleven were obviously Catholic entities. The worth of these stocks amounts to many billions of pesos (computed at P57.05 per share according to the 27 May PSE Market Information). These were (according to ranking and number of stocks owned):

• 4 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila with 222,843,681 shares worth P12,713,232,001;

• 8 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (Real Casa de Misericordia) with 41,408,841 shares worth P2,362,374,379;

• 13 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (Hospital de San Juan de Dios) with 22,072,182 shares worth P1,259,217,983;

• 15 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (Hospicio de San Jose) with 6,016,624 shares worth P343,248,399;

• 17 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (Hosp de San Juan de Dios) with 4,285,572 shares worth P244,491,882;

• 21 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (Mayordomia dela Catedral) with 2,664,266 shares worth P151,996,375;

• 26 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Manila (St. Paul’s Hospital) with 1,772,418 shares worth P101,116,447;

• 49 Carmel of the Divine Infant Jesus of Prague, Inc (Filipino) with 726,819 shares worth P41,465,024;

• 60 Superior dela Corporacion Filipina de Padres Agustinos Recoletos, Inc. with 551,382 shares worth P31,456,343;

• 64 Roman Catholic Archbishop of Jaro with 491,385 shares worth P28,033,514; and

• 74 Corporacion de Padres Dominicos with 380,307 shares worth P21,696,514.

The staggering amount of RCC money in BPI alone totals P17.3 billion pesos. Add its Philex holdings and the total is 17.5 BILLION PESOS. This huge amount in only two corporations! It will not be surprising if the Catholic Church has a lot more money in other big corporations.

With this alone, the Roman Catholic Church already becomes the 9th richest in the country dislodging Emilio Yap, Manila Hotel and Manila Bulletin owner and Oscar Lopez of Benpres Holdings Corporation.

Let’s imagine what this kind of money can do.

P17.5 billion pesos is more than half of the total budget of the Department of Health which is P31.8 billion. The department’s budget is supposed to serve more than 90 million Filipinos. We can only guess how many hospitals can be better equipped, how many doctors and nurses can be hired, and eventually, how many lives can be saved if only the Church decides to put this money in people’s health —even only in Catholic people’s health.

The National Statistical Coordination Board estimates that there are about four million families living in poverty and each needs P7,017.00 monthly to stay out of poverty. Instantly, the Catholic church is in a very good position to remove about 2.5 million families from poverty!

The Church positions itself as the vanguard of morality. Yet, while it sits on at least P17.5 billion, it continues to solicit donations from the poor instead of helping them have a better life. The Church proclaims itself as the protector of life. Yet it doesn’t use its billions to save the Catholic poor from hunger, sickness, and death.


Why don’t we see anything wrong with the bishop in all his finery standing beside the Catholic beggar? Is it really acceptable that cathedrals are in the same community of Catholic slum dwellers?

When will the Roman Catholic Church realize that as the multi-billionaire church of the millions of poor Filipino Catholics, it is its moral responsibility to substantially help its flock?


http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideOpinion.htm?f=2011/may/28/elizabethangsioco.isx&d=2011/may/28
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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #122 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 06:31 PM »
Si  Angsioco talaga...inuuto lang kayo!

1. Angsioco should be ashamed of herself for being in government. It IS the government's job to provide quality education to ALL its citizens. So why put the blame on the Catholic Church?

2. The Catholic Church doesn't help the poor? What a big lie.

http://www.rcam.org/ministry/socialservices/caritas.htm

Those who believe her are either...or... nevermind.

3. How will you pay doctors, nurses, hospital staff, electricity, water, teachers, etc etc etc without money? If she's so serious, let her file a bill preventing PCSO from having sweepstakes, lotto, etc. Let's see where they will get funding for their charity drive.

Speaking of which, the poorest of poor, instead of buying food, will buy a lotto ticket for the chance of winning. Isn't that a form of "soliciting donations" instead of helping them?



« Last Edit: Jan 13, 2012 at 06:36 PM by GC »
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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #123 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 06:58 PM »
German priest admits to 280 instances of sex abuse

(Reuters) - A Catholic priest admitted in a German court on Thursday to sexually abusing three boys over eight years, including one he was preparing for his first communion and two brothers during trips that included Disneyland in Paris, German media reported.

The 46-year-old, named in court documents as Andreas L., admitted to charges of abusing the boys from 2004.

"The worst aspect is that he exploited their trust," said Klaus Ziehe, lead court prosecutor in the central city of Braunschweig, in comments published by Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper.

Abuse allegations have rocked the Roman Catholic Church in Germany in recent years, forcing it to open its files to independent investigators and allow searches for potential abuse cases as far back as 1945.

The priest, who had been arrested last summer, used a document folder to cover his face in the courtroom, where some of his former parishioners had come to witness the proceedings.

Some shook their heads or covered their mouths in shock as the charges were read aloud, the paper reported.

The cases may be partly behind disenchantment among the faithful. One study shows some 180,000 German Catholics left the Church in 2010, a 40 percent rise over the previous year, amid allegations that priests sexually abused children for decades.

The number of people quitting the Church surpassed the total of those leaving main Protestant churches for the first time in postwar Germany, the study by the magazine Christ & Welt said.

Pope Benedict met victims of clerical sex abuse on a visit to his native Germany in September and expressed his deep regret, while Berlin has set up a 100 million euro ($128 million) fund to pay for their therapy.

The German Catholic Church faces some 600 demands for compensation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/12/uk-germany-abuse-priest-idUKTRE80B1WI20120112

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #124 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 07:50 PM »

It IS the government's job to provide quality education to ALL its citizens.

Agree.

So why put the blame on the Catholic Church?


It's the church's job to evangelize people. They are financially accountable to their members.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #125 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 08:20 PM »
German priest admits to 280 instances of sex abuse

(Reuters) - A Catholic priest admitted in a German court on Thursday to sexually abusing three boys over eight years, including one he was preparing for his first communion and two brothers during trips that included Disneyland in Paris, German media reported.

The 46-year-old, named in court documents as Andreas L., admitted to charges of abusing the boys from 2004.

"The worst aspect is that he exploited their trust," said Klaus Ziehe, lead court prosecutor in the central city of Braunschweig, in comments published by Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper.

Abuse allegations have rocked the Roman Catholic Church in Germany in recent years, forcing it to open its files to independent investigators and allow searches for potential abuse cases as far back as 1945.

The priest, who had been arrested last summer, used a document folder to cover his face in the courtroom, where some of his former parishioners had come to witness the proceedings.

Some shook their heads or covered their mouths in shock as the charges were read aloud, the paper reported.

The cases may be partly behind disenchantment among the faithful. One study shows some 180,000 German Catholics left the Church in 2010, a 40 percent rise over the previous year, amid allegations that priests sexually abused children for decades.

The number of people quitting the Church surpassed the total of those leaving main Protestant churches for the first time in postwar Germany, the study by the magazine Christ & Welt said.

Pope Benedict met victims of clerical sex abuse on a visit to his native Germany in September and expressed his deep regret, while Berlin has set up a 100 million euro ($128 million) fund to pay for their therapy.

The German Catholic Church faces some 600 demands for compensation.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/01/12/uk-germany-abuse-priest-idUKTRE80B1WI20120112

That guilty priest should really be punished.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #126 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 09:25 PM »
I agree with Angsioco about the greed of the Catholic Church.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/books/review/inside-scientology-and-render-unto-rome-book-review.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1

The Catholic Church offers a very different picture, but one where
money is even more important. Jason Berry, the reporter who broke
several of the priest abuse scandals of recent times, finds the same
pattern of deception, denial and subterfuge in the church’s handling
of money as in its treatment of pedophiles. The Vatican comes to its
high-handed way with money in an understandable fashion. In the Middle
Ages, all authority was male and monarchical, so the pope became a
king. His multiple realms had all the appurtenances of a medieval
monarch — armies, prisons, spies, torturers, legal courts in papal
service. The money flowed in from many sources — as conquest, as
tribute from subordinate princes (secular and religious) or from the
crops on farm lands held by the pope, who was not accountable to
anyone for use of these funds. When normal sources did not satisfy
papal ambition, clerical underlings invented new kinds of revenue —
like the granting of time off in Purgatory for cash contributions
during life (“indul­gences” for sale).

The Vatican issues statements of
its assets — in 2007 the amount was 1.4 billion euros —but the Vatican
Bank is off the books, as is a metric ton of gold, and other things
not reported. On a list of papal assets, St. Peter’s Basilica and
other historic sites are listed as worth one euro each. No wonder, as
Berry says, “the Holy See’s true net worth is invisible.”

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #127 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 09:42 PM »
Si  Angsioco talaga...inuuto lang kayo!


We can say the same for the Catholic Church and religion in general.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #128 on: Jan 13, 2012 at 10:01 PM »
We can say the same for the Catholic Church and religion in general.

Nah, very much like with freethinkers who issue statements or post blogs without going to the reference first.
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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #129 on: Jan 14, 2012 at 07:32 AM »
Catholic Church Still Hiding Sexual Predators?

Ten years ago, Michael Rezendes and The Boston Globe colleagues broke a clergy sex abuse cover-up in the Boston Archdiocese. Host Michel Martin speaks with Rezendes about his investigative work.

MICHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Now, we want to call on Michael Rezendes. He is one of the investigative reporters and the lead writer on that Boston Globe story that revealed a serious problem with the abuse of children by a number of priests in the Boston Archdiocese. In the months and years that followed, literally hundreds of similar cases were revealed across the country. We want to take a look back at that watershed moment and we do want to say again that, owing to the subject matter, this may not be an appropriate conversation for everyone.

With that being said, Michael Rezendes, thank you so much for speaking with us.

MICHAEL REZENDES: Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.

MARTIN: Now, you made the point to us earlier that the important thing about your reporting and the reporting of your team was not that you discovered clergy sex abuse, but that you discovered the cover-up. Would you talk a little bit more about that?

REZENDES: Well, yes. I tell people all the time that we did not discover the clergy sex abuse scandal. By the time we came along in 2002, there had been many clergy sex abuse scandals all over the country.

One of them, right next to Boston in the city of Fall River, where a priest by the name of James Porter molested more than 100 children. We wrote about that extensively back in the early 1990s, but what we accomplished in 2002 was to prove that high officials in the Archdiocese of Boston, including Cardinal Law, actually knew for decades that priests were molesting children and nevertheless transferred those priests from parish to parish, which enabled them to continue molesting still more children.

It's the old adage that the cover-up is worse than the crime and that was the case with this story.

MARTIN: Why do you think it is that your reporting and the reporting of your team opened the flood gates, given, as you said, that there had been stories earlier about some really, really terrible behavior directed at children? What is it that you think changed with your reporting?

REZENDES: Well, our reporting was different because we obtained documents written by church officials. For instance, documents written by Cardinal Law, which proved that they knew there was a serious problem and they were covering it up.

Before that, the reporting all over the country was restricted to reporting on the claims of victims and describing the abuses that had occurred, but for the first time, we were able to get the church's internal documents, which were under a court seal, by the way. We were able to get those documents, which were written and signed by the church officials themselves and that's what was different about our reporting.

MARTIN: And I think it's important to point out that, in response to this, the archdiocese itself has marked the 10 year anniversary. The Cardinal Sean O'Malley released five pages of reflections on the crisis. It's too detailed to give all of his comments here, but one of the points that he makes is that there's been tremendous progress, that there have been, you know - 800 claims of abuse have been settled, that, you know, hundreds of thousands of children have been trained and offered sort of a curriculum on how to identify and protect themselves from this kind of abuse.

And he really says - he kind of says, in effect, that, while we thank the media for bringing this to light, this really is something in the past that needs to be put into that context. How do you respond to that?


More at http://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145170449/catholic-church-still-hiding-sexual-predators

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #130 on: Feb 03, 2012 at 10:18 AM »
New move by CBCP.

CBCP eyes Pacquiao as 'Bible ambassador'

Aside from being the Philippines' sports envoy, boxing champ and Sarangani Rep. Emmanuel "Manny" Pacquiao may soon hold another title - that of being the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines' Bible ambassador.

The CBCP announced plans to make Pacquiao its Bible ambassador as it ended its 104th plenary assembly in Manila Monday.

“Manny has always been very religious and we are happy that he is deepening his faith and his understanding of the Bible,” Pampanga Auxiliary Bishop Pablo David in an article posted Tuesday on the CBCP news site.

He said Pacquiao could play a major tole in strengthening the Catholic Church’s Biblical apostolate in the country.

David added Pacquiao likes reading the Bible, and making him as the Church’s Bible ambassador could inspire more people to read the Scripture.

“That’s why I asked him if he could partner with us in promoting the reading of the Bible among Catholics,” said David, who chairs the CBCP’s Commission on Biblical Apostolate.

David said he is convinced Pacquiao's popularity will be a big help in promoting not only Bible readership but also in making the Bible available in every Filipino home.

“We want to make the Bible more available to the poor people that’s why we subsidized it at P50… we would like to produce five million Bibles for five million poor Filipinos and Catholics within seven years,” David said.

Other celebrities

Aside from Pacquiao, David said they are also seeking the help of other personalities to help boost their campaign.

“There are other bishops who are directly in touch with some personalities, celebrities, because they have a big influence on the people,” he said.

“Some of our known comedians are very serious people, very spiritual people and we are happy that they are partnering very closely with us,” he added.


http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/246694/news/nation/cbcp-eyes-pacquiao-as-bible-ambassador?ref=latest

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #131 on: Feb 03, 2012 at 10:28 AM »
Milwaukee Archdiocese faces 550 sex abuse claims

About 550 people are asking for restitution for alleged sexual abuse by clergy in the Archdiocese of Milwaukee — more than in any of the other U.S. dioceses that have filed for bankruptcy protection, according to a lawyer involved in the Milwaukee case.

The Milwaukee Archdiocese filed for bankruptcy protection last year, saying pending sex-abuse lawsuits could leave it with debts it couldn't afford.

The archdiocese has paid more than $30 million in settlements and other court costs related to allegations of clergy abuse and more than a dozen suits against it have been halted because of the bankruptcy proceedings. One priest alone is accused of abusing some 200 boys at a suburban school for deaf students from 1950 to 1974.

James Stang, a bankruptcy lawyer who represents creditors in the Wisconsin case, estimated that about 550 claims had been filed by the Wednesday afternoon deadline set by the bankruptcy court.

Those who filed claims will end up splitting a settlement amount that will be determined by the creditors' committee, archdiocese and its insurance company. The archdiocese had only $4.6 million in assets to be applied to claims in 2010.

A victims' advocacy group called the number of filings "extraordinarily tragic," but said that represented only a small portion of people abused by clergy.

"It's sad and it just shows how devastating these crimes have been on this community but it's obviously far from over," said Peter Isely, the Midwest director for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

The other seven Catholic dioceses in the U.S. that have filed for bankruptcy since the clergy abuse scandal erupted in 2002 in Boston are in Davenport, Iowa; Fairbanks, Alaska; Portland, Ore.; San Diego; Spokane, Wash.; Tucson, Ariz.; and Wilmington, Del. Two other religious orders have also filed for bankruptcy.

Of the seven other dioceses that also filed for bankruptcy, the number of claims ranged from about 40 to 250, Stang said. About 535 claimants had come forward against the Oregon Province of the Jesuits, he said.

Archdiocese spokeswoman Julie Wolf and attorney Jeff Anderson, who represents clergy abuse victims, including some in the Milwaukee case, said it's hard to compare cases. Anderson said each diocese represents a different number of people, and Wolf said some dioceses are incorporated differently.

Payouts in the other bankruptcy cases have varied based on the severity of the abuse and the quality of the diocese's insurance coverage, according to Stang. For example, cases in Southern California yielded an average of about $1.2 million per claimant, he said, while the amount was far less in Fairbanks, Alaska, where less money was available.

Stang predicted the payouts wouldn't be on the generous side in Wisconsin. The creditors committee, archdiocese and its insurance company will negotiate a dollar amount. After that, those who filed claims will negotiate between themselves on how to divide the money.

"Insurance-coverage issues in Milwaukee cases haven't been very good for survivors," he said. "The rulings by courts there have not been survivor-friendly."

Stang acknowledged some people file claims even though they weren't abused but said that was "extremely rare."

"Most people are not willing to come out and publicly say they were masturbated by someone," Stang said.

Anderson and the archdiocese both said they advertised the deadline both locally and nationally. Anderson said his firm paid for TV and newspaper advertisements because he didn't think the archdiocese's efforts made the victims feel safe coming forward.

Wolf disputed that. "We've just been focused on getting this message out far and wide to as many people as we could in order to make sure everybody who had a claim was able to submit it before this deadline occurred," she said.

A Feb. 9 court hearing is set for a judge to consider a request from the archdiocese to throw out some claims by people on grounds they were filed beyond the statute of limitations, they involved someone who was not an archdiocese employee or a victim who received a prior settlement.

Wolf said she didn't know how many of the claims would be included in the request.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57370183/milwaukee-archdiocese-faces-550-sex-abuse-claims/

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #132 on: Feb 03, 2012 at 10:45 AM »
Notorious pedophile priest jailed for three years for child pornography

Former priest Oliver O’Grady was sentenced in Dublin to three years in prison after thousands of movies, clips and audio bites of graphic child pornography were found on his laptop. O’Grady previously served seven years in prison in America for child abuse.

The 65-year-old defrocked priest served the seven years after he was found guilty of rape, molestation, and lewd and lascivious acts on children during his time as a priest in California.

O’Grady was  the subject of the 2006 Academy Award-nominated documentary Deliver Us From Evil. O'Grady said he wanted the film to serve as the "most honest confession of [his] life." He detailed how he preyed on children, and claims Church officials knew about his abuses but protected him by moving him from parish to parish.

The Irish Examiner reports that O’Grady admitted to three counts of possession of child pornography after his laptop, which he had left on a flight from Amsterdam to Dublin in 2010, was found to have 65,000 graphic images of children.

Upon finding the laptop O’Grady had presumably accidentally left behind on the plane, local gardai tracked him down to a hostel in Dublin. There, they found thousands more images and videos which were stored on his laptop, hard drives and USB drives.

Following his seven year imprisonment in the United States for similar charges, O’Grady was laicised from the Church and deported back to Ireland.

The judge who sentenced O’Grady, who used to reside at Charlemont House in Dublin 2, at Dublin’s Circuit Court believed that his imprisonment in the US had not rehabilitated the “socially isolated” O’Grady and that the man has a “serious problem.”


http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Notorious-pedophile-priest-jailed-for-three-years-for-child-pornography-138387299.html#ixzz1lHo03wKz

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Rapist Priest to Victim: This is what God's love feels like
« Reply #133 on: Feb 13, 2012 at 09:05 AM »
Catholic Priest Allegedly Told Child He Was Raping That ‘This Is What God’s Love Feels Like’
Just sickening!

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02/12/catholic-priest-allegedly-told-child-he-was-raping-that-this-is-what-gods-love-feels-like/
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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #136 on: Feb 16, 2012 at 09:53 AM »
Pampanga's priests defy celibacy

by Aries Rufo
Posted on 01/18/2012 11:42 AM  | Updated 02/14/2012 7:51 PM

The Church of Pampanga has been grappling with problems concerning its randy priests, and Church officials have been trying to contain a potentially damaging case, which if it drags on, could grow into a scandal.

For the first time, a priest has been hailed to court for having an affair with a married woman, although such extracurricular affairs are not uncommon in Pampanga.

Church officials have suspended the priest, Jeffrey Louie Maghirang, but the complainant, a security manager for a chain of malls, fears that he might just be reassigned to another parish after the scandal has subsided. (He has asked not to be identified to protect the privacy of his 3-year-old child.)

This priest’s illicit affair could lead to a family breakup.

A ticking bomb


The pending case will not be the last.

If the Church mishandles the case by allowing the revelation of salacious details to the public, it could open a Pandora’s box. It will expose the violations of Pampanga priests of their vow of celibacy, with the Pampanga laity looking the other way.

It will also expose the leniency of Church officials toward erring priests and their attempts to cover up their sins.
 
More fundamentally, it will reveal an inherent flaw in the formation of its clergy, perpetuating a vicious cycle.

The situation in Pampanga is like a ticking time bomb. With dozens of abandoned children sired by priests, it could provide a major financial headache for the Church, if ever a class suit seeking compensation is filed.

Among the 86 dioceses in the country, the bishopric of Pampanga boasts a singular honor: it has the highest incidence of priests engaged in extra-curricular affairs.

Consider this: 5 priests have sought for dispensation—those granted dispensation are freed from their priestly duties and assume the life of an ordinary layman—while 2 have been suspended, which underscores the gravity of the situation.
 
A retired archbishop said in an interview that more than a dozen clergymen in Pampanga are known to maintain lovers. A former lawmaker from Pampanga, who has extensive contacts with the Church, however said that of the more than 100 priests there, more than half are having affairs.

In 2004, Newsbreak wrote about the twin “demons” facing the Church in Pampanga—fornication and gambling. We wrote that Pampanga priests indulge in sex and maintain families and children—a violation of their priestly vow. With lovers and children to support, they fall prey to the temptation of jueteng.

At that time, we reported that 35 priests were having affairs, with 21 siring children. And they seemed not to practice any form of family planning as some had 2 or more kids.


http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/935-pampanga-s-priests-defy-celibacy

The Priest, The Lover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1gPQ1gEeE&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #137 on: Feb 18, 2012 at 08:13 AM »
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_CARDINALS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Feb 17, 1:13 PM EST

'Vatileaks' casts cloud over new cardinal ceremony

By NICOLE WINFIELD
Associated Press


VATICAN CITY (AP) -- A scandal over leaked Vatican documents and reports of political infighting, financial mismanagement and administrative chaos in the Holy See's frescoed halls have cast a cloud over this weekend's ceremony to create 22 new cardinals.

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The Vatican spokesman has been doing serious damage control of late amid reports and leaked documents alleging corruption in the running of the Vatican city state, money laundering at the Vatican bank and political infighting between opposing camps within the Vatican bureaucracy.

The scandal began last month with the publication of letters from the former No. 2 Vatican administrator, who begged the pope not to be transferred after he exposed millions of euros in cost overruns. He was then removed and named the Vatican's U.S. ambassador in Washington.

Subsequent news reports focused on four priests under investigation for allegedly using Vatican bank accounts to launder cash. The pope's top banker, meanwhile, remains under investigation for allegedly breaking Italy's anti-money laundering law by trying to transfer cash from two Vatican bank accounts without identifying the sender or the recipient. He has denied wrongdoing.

More recent leaks have included a Vatican document warning of a plot to kill the pope this year - a scenario that has since been discredited - and of an internal debate over the scope and power of the Vatican's new financial watchdog and whether the Holy See's newly minted anti-money laundering law was actually any better than its predecessor.

The scandal, dubbed "Vatileaks" after Lombardi himself noted the similarities to the Wikileaks documents scandal that hit the U.S. government, has come as the Vatican has tried to clean up its finances and be more transparent in its financial dealings to comply with international norms.

The Vatican hopes to get on the so-called "white list" of countries that share information to crack down on tax evasion, aiming to forever erase its reputation as a secrecy-obsessed offshore tax haven.

The latest reports certainly haven't helped its bid.

In an editorial this week, Lombardi said the leaks "tend to create confusion and bewilderment, and to throw a bad light on the Vatican, the governance of the church, and more broadly on the church herself."

"We must, then, remain calm and keep our nerve, make use of reason - something which not all media outlets tend to do," he said.

The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano took up the charge as well, saying in a front-page editorial this week that Benedict was fighting unnamed, irresponsible "wolves." The pope himself made a vague reference to the rumors during a meeting with seminarians Wednesday when he said a lot was being said about the church in these days.

"Let's hope that our faith, the exemplary faith of this church, is also talked about," he said.

The picture that has emerged is one of political infighting and intrigue inside and outside the Vatican. One scenario suggests internal power struggles centering around Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the pope's longtime deputy and the Vatican's secretary of state whose leadership has been called into question after several botched decisions. The other underscores the tense relations the Vatican's financial institutions have with the Bank of Italy and Italian prosecutors.

"There is a great discontent within in the Roman curia, the outproducts of this discontent are back-stabbing, intrigues, anonymous letters about plots but the main thing is that Cardinal Bertone, who is the secretary of state, was never accepted by the curia because he was an outsider," said Marco Politi, a veteran Vatican watcher.

Against that backdrop is the perennial papal gossiping that comes with any consistory, since the ceremonies exist purely to restaff the College of Cardinals, which selects the next pope. All cardinals under age 80 are eligible to vote in a papal conclave.

The Italians are gaining seven new voting-age cardinals, adding to the eight they picked up at the last consistory in November 2010.

That boosts Italy's chances of taking back the papacy for one of its own following decades under a Polish and a German pope, or at least playing the kingmaker role if an Italian papabile, or papal candidate, doesn't emerge.

As of Saturday, Italy will have 30 cardinals out of the 125 under age 80. Only the United States comes close with 12, including Dolan and Cardinal-designate Edwin O'Brien, the former archbishop of Baltimore who is now grand master of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre, which raises money for the church in the Holy Land.

The consistory class of 2012 is heavily European, reinforcing Europe's dominance of the College of Cardinals, even though two-thirds of the world's Catholics are in the southern hemisphere. All but three of the new under-80 cardinals come from the West, with only a Brazilian, an Indian and a Chinese rounding out the balance.

Dolan said in an interview this week that he had remained largely aloof to the rumor-mongering, saying he had used his time in Rome to write his speech and buy his new crimson robes that he admitted were already getting tight after too many bowls of carbonara, a typical Roman dish of pasta tossed with egg yolk, cheese and guanciale, or pork jowl.



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Re: Rapist Priest to Victim: This is what God's love feels like
« Reply #138 on: Feb 19, 2012 at 11:18 AM »
Very sickening! I bet local priests are too scared to even talk about it. People should approach them for their opinion about that rapist priest.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #139 on: Feb 19, 2012 at 11:20 AM »
Catholic Priest Allegedly Told Child He Was Raping That ‘This Is What God’s Love Feels Like’

The Catholic Church has thrown a temper tantrum over contraceptives, abortion, and homosexuality over the last few years. Catholic bishops and priests have gone on the offensive, crusading against what they call sin, immorality, and abomination of the word of God. But the Catholic Church can’t seem to clean up its own act. Over the years, child molestation and rape scandals have rocked the Catholic Church. But instead of dealing with the problem, many in the Catholic hierarchy have largely ignored the scandal and some priests have tried to use their religious affiliations to escape justice or use God to justify their actions. The horrendous scandal has now hit California, where 200 Catholic priests have been accused of sexually abusing children.

Ray Boucher is the attorney at the helm of this investigation and he says that not only have “many if not all” of the 200 priests admit to sexually abusing children, “they live within a mile of 1,500 playgrounds, schools and daycare centers” across California. You heard that right. 200 priests that are under investigation for sexually abusing children live near areas where children play and learn.

According to NBC Los Angeles, one victim has detailed the tragic incident of a priest raping him. Dan Smith told NBC, “He would rape me and then say this is what God’s love feels like.” Sick isn’t it? Smith was just one of 500 people who joined together to sue the Los Angeles Archdiocese for sexual molestation.

“In 2007 the LA Archdiocese reached an unprecedented $660 million settlement with many of the plaintiffs without admitting any wrong-doing.

It also agreed to let the courts decide which of the case-related church files should be made public, including those identifying alleged and admitted predators.

But according to Boucher and court documents, the Catholic Church has since engaged in a cover-up. By Boucher’s account, Church officials allowed priests suspected of sexually abusing children to retire, flee the country or hide in rehab clinics until the statute of limitations on prosecution ran out.”

So while the Catholic Church crusades against same-sex marriage, which is between two consenting adults, its own priests are busy molesting innocent children who are below the age of consent and can’t protect themselves. And while the Catholic Church says that contraception is immoral and against God, they refuse to protect the children that would be born if contraception were to be banned, from being raped by their own so called “men of God.”

But Dan Smith’s tearful story made me think of a man who once said that children conceived by rape “are gifts from God.” His words implied that God sanctions rapes to give women a gift and that’s why he opposes abortion even in cases of rape. I assume he also feels the same way when little girls are raped and impregnated by their own fathers. It must be a “gift from God.” This man is also currently defending the Catholic Church in it’s efforts against same-sex marriage and contraceptives. Yet, he has remained silent about the egregious sin of child rape committed by many Catholic priests and the lengths that the Church has gone to, to cover up those sins. That man is Rick Santorum, the current leader of the Republican Presidential field and the man who is held in high regard by the Christian Right. I wonder what Rick Santorum would say about boys who get raped. Is it a “gift from God,” as Santorum says when women are raped and impregnated? Keep in mind that a priest allegedly told a boy he was raping that “this is what God’s love feels like.” Will Santorum say that it’s different when a boy or a man is raped? In Santorum’s sick mind, when women get raped, they should be thankful for the gift God is giving them. It would be very interesting to know what Santorum thinks about Catholic priests and their obsession with little boys. I’m not saying that Rick Santorum supports pedophilia and I’m not saying he supports rape. But I think he definitely has questions to answer. And so does the Catholic Church.


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02/12/catholic-priest-allegedly-told-child-he-was-raping-that-this-is-what-gods-love-feels-like/

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #140 on: Feb 19, 2012 at 07:00 PM »
^This is why I don't think the Catholic Church, as an institution, has ANY right to claim high moral grounds.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #141 on: Feb 19, 2012 at 08:11 PM »
^This is why I don't think the Catholic Church, as an institution, has ANY right to claim high moral grounds.

I agree with you.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #142 on: Mar 13, 2012 at 10:58 PM »
Disgusting.

Leaving the Catholic Church sounds very tempting now.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #143 on: Mar 14, 2012 at 06:39 AM »
No wonder not too many Catholic priests or bishops speak out positively about Ronald Reagan.



The Tea Party (aka Tea-baggers) often idolize Reagan yet they conflict with him on religion.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #144 on: Mar 20, 2012 at 05:35 PM »
Catholic institution castrated abuse victims.

Why I'm still attending mass, I don't know. This is getting nauseating.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #145 on: Mar 27, 2012 at 08:50 AM »
The Catholic Church's candidate for US President is unfit for leadership

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_rsM0Zw_pw

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #146 on: Mar 29, 2012 at 01:48 AM »
High school girl banned from graduation over Facebook ‘bikini photo’
By Ador Vincent Mayol
Cebu Daily News
2:37 pm | Wednesday, March 28th, 2012

CEBU CITY, Philippines—For posing in a bikini, and posting  photos in her Facebook account, a 16-year-old girl won’t be allowed to attend  her graduation ceremony on Friday.

The punishment meted by St. Theresa’s College high school was called “too harsh” and “unjust” by her mother, a resident of Lapu-Lapu City, who sued officials of the private Catholic school.

Regional Trial Court Judge Wilfredo Navarro Tuesday ordered the school to show him a copy of the photos, and the Student Handbook which bans several actions, including “engaging in immoral, indecent, obscene or lewd acts.”

“I will have my own standards on whether or not it is lewd,” said the judge in a court hearing  on the mother’s petition of injunction and damages.

His decision will have to be made soon if the student hopes to join her graduation class in marching up the stage to receive a diploma on March 30.


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/168441/high-school-girl-banned-from-graduation-over-facebook-bikini-photo

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #147 on: Mar 29, 2012 at 07:12 AM »
High school girl banned from graduation over Facebook ‘bikini photo’
By Ador Vincent Mayol
Cebu Daily News
2:37 pm | Wednesday, March 28th, 2012

CEBU CITY, Philippines—For posing in a bikini, and posting  photos in her Facebook account, a 16-year-old girl won’t be allowed to attend  her graduation ceremony on Friday.

The punishment meted by St. Theresa’s College high school was called “too harsh” and “unjust” by her mother, a resident of Lapu-Lapu City, who sued officials of the private Catholic school.

Regional Trial Court Judge Wilfredo Navarro Tuesday ordered the school to show him a copy of the photos, and the Student Handbook which bans several actions, including “engaging in immoral, indecent, obscene or lewd acts.”

“I will have my own standards on whether or not it is lewd,” said the judge in a court hearing  on the mother’s petition of injunction and damages.

His decision will have to be made soon if the student hopes to join her graduation class in marching up the stage to receive a diploma on March 30.


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/168441/high-school-girl-banned-from-graduation-over-facebook-bikini-photo


What would be your take if you were the judge?  :D

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #148 on: Mar 29, 2012 at 08:38 AM »
What would be your take if you were the judge?  :D

TRO granted, effective immediately.

The problem with preventing a student from attending the graduation ceremonies is that it is a punishment that cannot be undone.  If the court or the DepEd should subsequently rule in May 2012 that the school was wrong, you can no longer turn back time and allow the graduate to attend the ceremonies held on March 30, 2012.

There should be a rule against this type of punishment.  If the student passes all subjects, then it should be the duty of the school to allow the student to attend the graduation ceremonies.  Let the school think of some other type of punishment.

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Re: Is the Church Above The Law? Church Double Standards
« Reply #149 on: Mar 29, 2012 at 08:46 AM »
^OT: Same logic De Lima used in defying the TRO.