Topic: PBA Season 37

[boredfilmmaker]

Trade: B-Meg traded their 9th pick + Val Acuna for Sean Anthony of Global Port (Powerade dati).. B-Meg now just traded Sean Anthony + 12th pick to Barako for 5th pick Aldrech Ramos.. Ramos is perfect for the triangle.. big man with a steady jumper..

[newwaveboy]

** BMEG owns the 9th pick ...... I have a feeling that Tim Cone covets someone in the mold of Tony Dela Cruz - someone who gets those jumpers out of his triangle-offense movement.

He already has his triangle-anchor in Pingris & Yancy ...... he'll want a decent jump-shooter .... probably pick Aldrech Ramos if available.
 

Exactly ...... Aldrech Ramos was my pick for BMEG ...... steady jump-shooter, as shown in early GILAS games.

If it wasn't Ramos ..... I had a feeling that BMEG will send trade offers for Tony Dela Cruz.

[newwaveboy]

Almost forgot that ROS' top PG Paul Lee is sidelined until early next year ...... that shoulder injury seems serious.

So, it's likely that Chris Tiu stays with ROS ..... for now.

[ivannn]

Almost forgot that ROS' top PG Paul Lee is sidelined until early next year ...... that shoulder injury seems serious.

So, it's likely that Chris Tiu stays with ROS ..... for now.

and the Tiu family are known business partners of the welcoat franchise. =) so expect chris tiu to stay with ros.

[newwaveboy]

and the Tiu family are known business partners of the welcoat franchise. =) so expect chris tiu to stay with ros.

That's good news ...... it's practically Chinatown in ROS ..... Lee, Chan, Tang, Tiu, Jao (Team manager), Yu & Que (Team owners). 

Like I said, any non-SMC/MVP team that succeeds on the court & on the stands, is good news for the overall health of the sport.

Chris Tiu should provide leadership & steadiness when he's on the floor ..... him and Calvin Abueva are easily the most mature rookies this season.

[jhelenz]

Exactly ...... Aldrech Ramos was my pick for BMEG ...... steady jump-shooter, as shown in early GILAS games.

If it wasn't Ramos ..... I had a feeling that BMEG will send trade offers for Tony Dela Cruz.

hmmm,almost same position sila ni jdv,although i'm not sure who is the worst defender of the 2  .the only reason i can think of why they got ramos is because jdv is still injured.what i'm hoping for bmeg is a player like ryan reyes or tdlc.

[jhelenz]

Kay Kramer ok pa ako kasi candidate talaga yan for most improved player if only nakapasok ang powerade sa semis last confy, baka tinalo pa nya si Jeff Chan.
Also, according to trade humors, yung isang PG from bmeg na mapupunta sa ginebra is barroca at si Jwash din pala to ginebra...nakakalito na mga trade humors, pero puro pabor sa petron.

brader mukhang hindi mapupunta si barroca sa bgk kasi sabi ni tim cone sa interview the reason they didn't draft tiu is because marami na sila pg,sabi pa nya if only they traded one of their pointguard eh baka si tiu pinili nila

[newwaveboy]

hmmm,almost same position sila ni jdv,although i'm not sure who is the worst defender of the 2  .the only reason i can think of why they got ramos is because jdv is still injured.what i'm hoping for bmeg is a player like ryan reyes or tdlc.

Yup, JDV does have some serious matador-defense in him ...... 

However, JDV was always a starter SF for Cone (ALASKA anyways) and was allowed to freelance a bit on offense ...... whereas TDLC is a reliever and was strictly assigned to certain hotspots on the triangle offense.

A healthy TDLC was near-automatic with those side-jumpers ..... beneficiary of that triangle movement/passing ..... Tim Cone is hoping that Ramos will emulate TDLC's role. 

[jhelenz]

Yup, JDV does have some serious matador-defense in him ...... 

However, JDV was always a starter SF for Cone (ALASKA anyways) and was allowed to freelance a bit on offense ...... whereas TDLC is a reliever and was strictly assigned to certain hotspots on the triangle offense.

A healthy TDLC was near-automatic with those side-jumpers ..... beneficiary of that triangle movement/passing ..... Tim Cone is hoping that Ramos will emulate TDLC's role. 

i have no doubt on Ramos' \ability to shoot what i worry is on defense side,if he will guard a powerforward medyo manipis sya,kung no 3 naman medyo mabagal sya.katulad nga ni jdv yan,pabor sa b meg pag offense pero problema din sya pagdating sa defense baka mas ok pa nga si jdv to guard no 4 kasi mas heftier sya.

[newwaveboy]

^ Yup, Cone will work on Ramos' defense  ...... Cone's defensive schemes are often overlooked due to the success of the triangle offense.

PJ Simon's defense greatly improved under Cone ..... even J.Yap showed improvement as well.

If Ramos follows the same defensive-prowess rise of TDLC (from way back in SHELL up to ALASKA) ..... he just might have a good pro career.

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PETRON just got a whole lot more loaded ...... not one scrub in this lineup.

If PETRON doesn't win at least 1 'chip this upcoming season ..... Noli Eala should be thrown in jail (actually he should've been in jail a long time ago). 

[brainwashed]

i have no doubt on Ramos' \ability to shoot what i worry is on defense side,if he will guard a powerforward medyo manipis sya,kung no 3 naman medyo mabagal sya.katulad nga ni jdv yan,pabor sa b meg pag offense pero problema din sya pagdating sa defense baka mas ok pa nga si jdv to guard no 4 kasi mas heftier sya.

I believe Ramos can play defense. This was evident during his earlier years in FEU. But when he became the top big man, and was expected to play a whole lot of minutes, he was given the lighter defensive assignment to allow him to focus on offense and at the same time to preserve his fouls. Though the players in the PBA are bigger and faster, he'll do just fine since defense in the PBA is not purely man-to-man defense.

 

[jhelenz]

^ Yup, Cone will work on Ramos' defense  ...... Cone's defensive schemes are often overlooked due to the success of the triangle offense.

PJ Simon's defense greatly improved under Cone ..... even J.Yap showed improvement as well.

If Ramos follows the same defensive-prowess rise of TDLC (from way back in SHELL up to ALASKA) ..... he just might have a good pro career.

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PETRON just got a whole lot more loaded ...... not one scrub in this lineup.

If PETRON doesn't win at least 1 'chip this upcoming season ..... Noli Eala should be thrown in jail (actually he should've been in jail a long time ago). 

yes simon's defense improved but his offense suffered,he became very inconsistent sa offense.lalo lang tuloy bumigat trabaho ni j yap sa scoring lalo nung na injured si jdv and intal.yun ang nagiging problema when you force an offense minded players concentrate on defense unlike players like cariaso and ryan reyes na offense defense oriented na talaga bago pumasok sa pba.
yan namang style ng smc company to get big star from other teams is not necessarily  mapalakas yung team nila but also to weaken other teams,kasehodang mabangko yung magaling na player kaysa mapunta sa ibang teams na makakapag contribute sya ng husto.swapang talaga no?

[-sniper-]

and the merry-go-round begins........


http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/air-21-petron-ginebra-submit-seven-player-blockbuster-deal-to-pba


"In the deal, the Express will receive Petron big men Noy Baclao and Rob Reyes and Ginebra wingmen KG Canaleta and John Wilson; Petron will receive center Magi Sison, guard Paolo Hubalde, and a 2014 second round pick from Air 21; and Ginebra will receive Elmer Espiritu and Air 21′s first round pick in 2013."


update (11:59a.m., 8-23-12): the trade has already been approved

[wengkapre]

@snipes
brader approved na! 

PBA: Air21 loads up via three-team trade with Petron, Ginebra
August 23, 2012 11:32am
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The Air21 Express shored up their frontline by adding height via a three-team deal that saw them nab former number one overall pick Nonoy Baclao, along with Rob Reyes, KG Canaleta and John Wilson from the Petron Blaze Boosters and Barangay Ginebra San Miguel.

In exchange, Petron got back sophomore Magi Sison, point guard Paolo Hubalde, and a 2014 second round draft pick, while Ginebra added Elmer Espiritu and a 2013 first round selection.

From the #PBA Commissioner's Office: Summary of Approved Trades as of August 23, 2012 - 1. AIR 21 gets Niño (cont) tl.gd/ivs63k

— pbaconnect (@pbaconnect) August 23, 2012

Interestingly enough, both Baclao and Canaleta actually played on earlier incarnations of the Air21 squad.

The 6'6" Baclao had been the number one pick in the 2010 draft, and averaged 3.4 points, 5.17 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.49 blocks with Air21, before being traded to Petron, where his playing time and numbers took a big hit. Overall, he has career averages of 2.79 points, 4.25 rebounds, 0.76 assists and 1.14 blocks in 14.98 minutes of play.

Joining him is the 6'5" Reyes, who boasts career numbers of 3.83 points and 3.54 rebounds in 15.56 minutes of play. Further adding height to the Express is 6'6" Nino Canaleta. The former UE Red Warrior averages 8.97 points, 3.68 rebounds and 0.79 assists in 20.49 minutes in a seven-season career.

Rounding out the Express' additions is bit player John Wilson, who averaged 3.75 points, 2.25 rebounds and 0.68 assists in 12.10 minutes over two seasons with Ginebra.

Petron gets a veteran back-up point guard in Hubalde. Last season, he normed 3.42 assists per game, and has career marks of 4.74 points, 2.46 rebounds and 2.22 assists in 15.79 minutes. They also get a project center in Magi Sison, who averaged 2.9 points and 3.55 rebounds in his rookie year.

Finally, Ginebra gets the high-leaping Elmer Espiritu, who has numbers of 5.05 points, 3.91 rebounds and 0.55 blocks in 18.07 minutes after two PBA seasons.

In the recently concluded 2012 PBA rookie draft, Petron tabbed June Mar Fajardo and Alex Mallari with the first and third overall picks. Ginebra got Chris Ellis and Charles Jensen with the sixth and eighth selections, while Air21 settled for Yousef Taha at the start of the second round, and Simon Atkins in the opening of the third.  - AMD, GMA News


1. Team owner no longer happy with players attitude.
Decision to trade him will be known tomorrow. Eagle for an Eagle - via Snow Badua

E. Villanueva - J. Aguilar ?

2. snow badua ‏@snowbadua

Malamang yung mga fans ng GINEBRA maging instant ATENEO fans. NOTE: AIR 21 2013 first round pick.

G. Slaughter  

[boredfilmmaker]

^it's Rabeh-Aguilar swap.. Rabeh goes to TNT and Aguilar to Global Port Batang Pier..

[wengkapre]

oo nga sir, eagle-eagle din 

[rukawakaide1721]

eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....

Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....

Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...

 

^it's Rabeh-Aguilar swap.. Rabeh goes to TNT and Aguilar to Global Port Batang Pier..

[Chorus]

eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....

Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....

Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...

 

Japet loves pick and roll and catch and shoot minsan follow-up dunk kaso nawawala yung bola sa kamay nya

[Hitman]

Una pa lang naman pa-star na yang si aguilar eh. Di ba nga pick siya ng team ni yeng guiao before pero di siya pumirma at muntik pang magdemandahan at eventually kinuha ng TNT. Puro ere wala namang sinab!

[newwaveboy]

Lito "Bugaw" Alvarez strikes again ...... an upgraded AIR21 will still generally s*ck this upcoming season.

AIR21 might have retooled, but so did the other PBA teams ..... they still wont win much.   

Besides, will anyone be surprised if, say Noy Baclao suddenly finds his game with AIR21 ..... will then be "traded" back to SMC in the near future?

Once again, a Lina-team has sold este traded away the potential #1 overall pick to SMC ..... with Slaughter & Pringle as possible top picks.

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Potential Rabeh --- Japeth straight-up trade?

One headcase traded for another headcase ...... though, it should be a win-win deal for both TnT and GLOBAL PORT.

TnT get's virtually nothing from Japeth anyway and may have grown tired of his childish ways ...... tells you something when Japeth plays way behind a 37-year old Ali Peek - a man playing with a bullet slug stuck in his neck.

Norman Black is old-school ..... always ensures that his PBA teams has that traditional center at the post.

GLOBAL surely knows about Rabeh's childish ways ..... the promise of a fast-breaking Japeth over a pouting and passive Rabeh might be too good to resist.

[frequenzy]

feeling ko hindi lang nabigyan ng mgandang break si japeth sa tnt. may pagasa pa din yan magimprove. nung bago pumasok kala mala limpot ang galaw niya. maling mali pala ko :-)

[brainwashed]

eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....

Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....

Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...

 

feeling ko hindi lang nabigyan ng mgandang break si japeth sa tnt. may pagasa pa din yan magimprove. nung bago pumasok kala mala limpot ang galaw niya. maling mali pala ko :-)

Parehong pang-center ang height nina Japeth at Rabeh pero pareho ding hindi center ang laro nila. Si Japeth di talaga naglalaro ng center kaya di nabibigyan ng playing time. Marami siyang kaagaw sa 3 and 4 spots ng team niya. Si Rabeh naman can play center but with the influx of bigger players, imo, he can now slide down to the 4 or even the 3 spot for his team.

Ang problema kasi sa perspective ng pinoy eh pag matangkad ka center ka na agad. Kaya sana dumami pa ang mga kasingtangkad ni Ranidel de Ocampo na kayang maglow-post, kayang umatake facing the basket, may tira sa labas hanggang sa three points at malaki ang pangangatawan. Swerte siya at may kuya Yancy siya na tumayong center sa team niya nung college kaya di siya napwersang maglaro ng center.

[rukawakaide1721]

Parehong pang-center ang height nina Japeth at Rabeh pero pareho ding hindi center ang laro nila. Si Japeth di talaga naglalaro ng center kaya di nabibigyan ng playing time. Marami siyang kaagaw sa 3 and 4 spots ng team niya. Si Rabeh naman can play center but with the influx of bigger players, imo, he can now slide down to the 4 or even the 3 spot for his team.

Ang problema kasi sa perspective ng pinoy eh pag matangkad ka center ka na agad. Kaya sana dumami pa ang mga kasingtangkad ni Ranidel de Ocampo na kayang maglow-post, kayang umatake facing the basket, may tira sa labas hanggang sa three points at malaki ang pangangatawan. Swerte siya at may kuya Yancy siya na tumayong center sa team niya nung college kaya di siya napwersang maglaro ng center.

wala naman sanang problema...kung 3 or 4 ang gustong gawing laro ni japeth ei ang manggaling sa labas sabay atake...kung kaya lang sana niyang mag drive na habang nag di dribol ng bola kaya lang nga ei hindi rin niya mahawakan ng maayos ang bola patungong basket....hindi rin siya maka create ng offense ng galing sa labas ng sarili lang niya....like cyrus baguio or danny siegle style...kung ganun sana ei talagang maraming mahihirapan sa kanya....kaya better ma develop niya ang low post or high post game....sa haba ng mga binti at galamay niya...maka step lang siya ng isang malaki ei puede na niyang ma lay up or dunk ang bola kahit pa may bantay with his leaping ability...plus power....either offensive or defensive foul lang naman ang aabutin ei....

kung mag slid down si rabeh sa 3 or 4 dapat he can dribol din para low or high post man hindi siya basta basta maagawan ng bola...try to watch the game of benjie paras....dribol habang binabangga ang katawan sa bumabantay then pag may opportunity na biglang mag atake sa basket....kasi mahirap bantayan ang player na marunong mag dribol dahil mahirap malaman kung kailan aatake.... lalo pat ang babantay ay walang lateral movement...yakang yaka ng magaling mag dribol iwan ang bantay...

[Chorus]

imagine nalang na magpalaki pa ng katawan si Japet at adding dribbling skill mas nakakatakot 

[frequenzy]

kasi mahirap bantayan ang player na marunong mag dribol dahil mahirap malaman kung kailan aatake.... lalo pat ang babantay ay walang lateral movement...yakang yaka ng magaling mag dribol iwan ang bantay...

this was the first lesson that my dad taught me on playing bball. kailangan matuto ka magdribble ng bola :-)

[ivannn]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/271025/sports/opinion/air21-and-the-need-to-protect-the-pbas-first-three-draft-picks?ref=secitem

its a good read =)

[newwaveboy]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/271025/sports/opinion/air21-and-the-need-to-protect-the-pbas-first-three-draft-picks?ref=secitem

its a good read =)

Good read bro ..... I agree with some points about protecting high picks.

However, for the nth time, a sports column regarding PBA draft picks, free-agency, etc has once again ignored the "massive elephant in the room".

The PBA draft does work ...... the only time it doesn't work is when PBA teams (read: Lina & Chua teams) sell este trade the blue-chip players and/or top draft slots to the already elite teams (read: SMC & MVP teams).

The Lina & Chua teams, sell these top players/high draft slots for marginal players & yet more future picks ........  then the cycle repeats itself, year after year.


Like I said in my earlier post, a reloaded AIR21 will still suck this year ..... in exchange for racking up a few more wins, they basically gave away the right to draft a potential franchise player (Slaughter) to SMC .... history repeats itself, over and over again.

Also, should Baclao, Reyes, Canaleta or Wilson perform well this year, would anyone be surprised if any of them somehow return to SMC in the near future? ...... this scenario has happened many times before.

There's a stinking, massive elephant in the room ..... yet it seems like only Wilfred Uytengsu (and old Firequinito) has the balls to talk about it ..... not one PBA commentator or legit sports columnist seems to "know" about the elephant. 


"It's difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair


 

[wengkapre]

smc is renewing Menk's contract but he will be playing in ABL(San Miguel
Team) to regain his condition.....@quinito henson's twitter

 

[-sniper-]

^^ much as i like eric menk, removing him from the BGSM line-up is a good move. he's not being used anyway, due to his recurring calf injury. he spends more time riding the bench.

[-sniper-]

http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio

cortez and willy wilson for casio? for me, not fair. casio cannot fill up the void that will be left by cortez and w. wilson.