Author Topic: Iglesia Ni Cristo - 100years of God's blessings (Read 213175 times)

jerix · « **Reply #1110 on:** Oct 26, 2015 at 08:54 AM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Oct 26, 2015 at 07:23 AM

So we're going to experience another massive protests along EDSA from INC?

Their primary goal is to put traffic into a stand-still so that the gov't will not "meddle in INC affairs". Then the trapos will capitalize on the issue to get INC block voting coming 2016.

Will the government allows itself to be held hostage by the INC? Its election time and the government is trying to woo religious groups to vote for its candidates. The INC i believe would take advantage of this to get what they want in exchange of votes.

toys4geeks · « **Reply #1111 on:** Oct 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 26, 2015 at 08:54 AM

Will the government allows itself to be held hostage by the INC? Its election time and the government is trying to woo religious groups to vote for its candidates. The INC i believe would take advantage of this to get what they want in exchange of votes.

Tama ka, ingat yang mga yan.

Ang aral ng RC eh meron pinagdadaanan ang INC at irespeto natin sila.
pero ibang usapan yan. pag ang public will again be inconvenienced by and action by taking over EDSA again.

Yang sigalot eh ipahayag sa tamang lugar(sa Phil Arena) at panahon (election), hayaan nyo ng magtrabajo ang higit na nakararami, bago umabot sa sukdulan ang inis ng publiko sa paraang makakaabala sa kanilang kabuhayan.

rochie · « **Reply #1112 on:** Oct 26, 2015 at 10:13 AM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Oct 26, 2015 at 10:04 AM

Tama ka, ingat yang mga yan.

Ang aral ng RC eh meron pinagdadaanan ang INC at irespeto natin sila.
pero ibang usapan yan. pag ang public will again be inconvenienced by and action by taking over EDSA again.

Yang sigalot eh ipahayag sa tamang lugar(sa Phil Arena) at panahon (election), hayaan nyo ng magtrabajo ang higit na nakararami, bago umabot sa sukdulan ang inis ng publiko sa paraang makakaabala sa kanilang kabuhayan.

I've read at philstar headline that all accusations will be answered in proper venue, so i guess we're all good. pwera lang kung umulan ng malakas,mag sale lahat ng Mall sa EDSA(hindi malayong mangyari payday Friday sa byernes) at biglang maglakad ang ALDUB sa EDSA so wala tayong magagawa trapik talaga mangyayari diyan

toys4geeks · « **Reply #1113 on:** Oct 26, 2015 at 12:11 PM »

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/734394/ousted-inc-leader-bares-murder-plot

jerix · « **Reply #1114 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 08:01 AM »

Laban lang Menorca and company!

dpogs · « **Reply #1115 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 08:32 AM »

sa ginagawa ng INC sa kanilang mga members... aba eh kulto nga...

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1116 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 11:40 AM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 27, 2015 at 08:01 AM

Laban lang Menorca and company!

INC has multi-billion assests in its disposal, they could afford "dream team" lawyers to defend. Being realistic, Menorca case might be unwinnable for the prosecution team.

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #1117 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 12:06 PM »

Quote from: rulesmeister on Oct 27, 2015 at 11:40 AM

INC has multi-billion assests in its disposal, they could afford "dream team" lawyers to defend. Being realistic, Menorca case might be unwinnable for the prosecution team.

Mahirap talaga i-pin ang krimen sa totoong mastermind. How can anyone prove kung sino nag utos ng abduction?

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #1118 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 27, 2015 at 08:32 AM

sa ginagawa ng INC sa kanilang mga members... aba eh kulto nga...

I am eager to find out what will happen kung magpatawag uli ng massive rally ang Sanggunian. Will the INC faithful still follow?

sirhc · « **Reply #1119 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:03 PM »

Quote from: SiCkBoY on Oct 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM

I am eager to find out what will happen kung magpatawag uli ng massive rally ang Sanggunian. Will the INC faithful still follow?

I'm willing to put my money on an absolute and a resounding yes.

It really gets interesting now that a Manalo was tagged as a respondent in the case. Makes you wonder what happens behind what our eyes and ears can reach.

rochie · « **Reply #1120 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:19 PM »

Quote from: SiCkBoY on Oct 27, 2015 at 12:07 PM

I am eager to find out what will happen kung magpatawag uli ng massive rally ang Sanggunian. Will the INC faithful still follow?

nagsabi na Atty. yung Abogadang spokesperson ng INC na sasagutin lahat ng accusation ni Menorca sa proper venue(sa korte). kung walang makisawsaw na personalidad and let it go through the normal process like what other charges go through malamang wala ng mangyayaring rally, and besides masyadong negative yung dating sa non members nung nakaraang pagkilos kaya malaki ang chances na hindi na mauulit yun.

pinagtataka ko lang dito kay Menorca parang hindi natuto ng tamang proseso ng pagpaparating ng hinaing sa Pamamahala, samantalang yung tatay nya ay dati ding myembro ng Sangunian noon. matalino naman siya,nasa pilot section pa yan nung HS kami,binoto ko pa nung kumandidato sa Student Council ng HS department namin.

my personal opinion is kung talagang may nagkasala edi parusahan ng batas ng lipunan,kung sa tingin nya talagang na kidnap siya at merong banta sa buhay edi tuloy nya ang kaso at maglabas ng magandang ebidensya. hindi naman yung sanggunian ang pinanampalatayanan namin kundi ang aral at doktrina.

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #1121 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:26 PM »

Quote from: rochie on Oct 27, 2015 at 01:19 PM

pinagtataka ko lang dito kay Menorca parang hindi natuto ng tamang proseso ng pagpaparating ng hinaing sa Pamamahala xxx

I think he's worried about the influence of INC, kaya he had no other recourse but to go to the media.

pTrader · « **Reply #1122 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:34 PM »

inde naman nakakapagtaka yung moves ni Menorca, kung effictive at efficient yung processo ng Sangunian ng INC, sa tingin nyo lalabas pa ba sa bakuran ng INC ito.

at kung ang tatay niya ay member ng Sangunian noon at si Menorca ay matalino, alam niya ang likaw ng bituka ng Sangunian ng INC.

it will be useless to undergo a process that is corrupted.

rulesmeister · « **Reply #1123 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:46 PM »

Makes me wonder why the INC high officials had to through that scheme (detaining INC whistle-blowers)? It makes them looked more guilty, if you have nothing to hide, dedma lang sayo yan.

Sa dami-dami ng nag-akusa (Mga kapatid ni Manalo,Nanay, editor ng pasugo, Ministers etc), there must be truth to these allegations. Eh bakit nung time ni Erano wala naman ganon?

dodie · « **Reply #1124 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 01:59 PM »

kya siguro media agad ang pinuntahan ni menorca kse pakiramdam niya ito ang safe gawin. isipin nyo ba naman na kailangan pa ng writ para sila mapalaya sa custody. at diumano ay isa sa mga lumulutang na opisyal ng pnp na may order na damputin sya ay si ncrpo chief. kung ikaw ay ordinaryong mamamayan at kalaban ang isang napakalaking organisasyon o relihiyon na may galamay sa loob ng gobyernong dapat na magtanggol sayong karapatan, ano ang gagawin mo? sa ganitong sitwasyon.........

you dont question the moves of the oppressed, what you should be questioning is the motive of the oppressor!

tony · « **Reply #1125 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 02:01 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 27, 2015 at 08:32 AM

sa ginagawa ng INC sa kanilang mga members... aba eh kulto nga...

ganyan din ang ginawa ng RC during the dark ages....
but the RC came out of it and mended ways....
what is hard to understand is why the INC leadership practices it...at this day and age...

Jesus said to Pilate,"you have no power over me if it was not given to you by my Father in heaven"....
did our Father in Heaven gave these INC leaders, the power of life and death over their members?

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #1126 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 03:02 PM »

Quote from: Dodie on Oct 27, 2015 at 01:59 PM

kya siguro media agad ang pinuntahan ni menorca kse pakiramdam niya ito ang safe gawin. isipin nyo ba naman na kailangan pa ng writ para sila mapalaya sa custody. at diumano ay isa sa mga lumulutang na opisyal ng pnp na may order na damputin sya ay si ncrpo chief. kung ikaw ay ordinaryong mamamayan at kalaban ang isang napakalaking organisasyon o relihiyon na may galamay sa loob ng gobyernong dapat na magtanggol sayong karapatan, ano ang gagawin mo? sa ganitong sitwasyon.........

you dont question the moves of the oppressed, what you should be questioning is the motive of the oppressor!

Korek. Sa ganitong sitwasyon, the media is your friend. Kung walang opportunity to face the media, then YouTube!

tigkal · « **Reply #1127 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 03:18 PM »

Wala power over life and death, only what to do and what not to do.

oweidah · « **Reply #1128 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 03:24 PM »

solid command vote kaya? ilan b registered voters ng inc

tony · « **Reply #1129 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 06:03 PM »

Quote from: tigkal on Oct 27, 2015 at 03:18 PM

Wala power over life and death, only what to do and what not to do.

so why then is Menorca so fearful of his life and that of his familiy?
nasiraan ng bait dahil natiwalag?

pTrader · « **Reply #1130 on:** Oct 27, 2015 at 06:21 PM »

Reality shows that Jesus Christ came to give life others are not:

John 10:9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture.

10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;
I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

Ano ba pangako ni Jesus Christ? And now what these "people" are doing to their members?

toys4geeks · « **Reply #1131 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 04:23 PM »

I just learned na ang Jehovah's witness hindi sila nag pa participate o nakekealam sa election kahit nagbabayad sila ng taxes.
Bakit kaya sa INC may susuportahan?
Nangyari na ba sa kasaysayan ng INC na wala silang sinoportahan na kandidato sa election?

barrister · « **Reply #1132 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 07:57 PM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Oct 28, 2015 at 04:23 PM

I just learned na ang Jehovah's witness hindi sila nag pa participate o nakekealam sa election kahit nagbabayad sila ng taxes.
Bakit kaya sa INC may susuportahan?
Nangyari na ba sa kasaysayan ng INC na wala silang sinoportahan na kandidato sa election?

Iba ang Jehovah's Witnesses. May pagka-extreme.

Ang JW, hindi lang sa hindi nakikialam sa elections, bawal sa kanila na bumoto man lang sa elections. Bawal mag-comment sa kandidato, whether pro or con. Bawal mag kampanya, bawal sumuporta. Bawal bumoto sa kahit sinong kandidato.

Bawal din sa JW ang military service, whether for aggressive or defensive wars. If they are obliged by law to render military service for their country, JWs will still refuse even if they are penalized with imprisonment. Even if alternative civilian service is allowed for those who refuse military service as conscientious objectors, JWs will still refuse alternative civilian service.

Celebrating independence day - bawal. Saluting the Philippine flag - bawal. Singing the national anthem - bawal. Reciting the Panatang Makabayan - bawal. Paano kung hindi election, plebiscite lang, where you vote yes or no to ratify or reject a constitutional amendment - bawal din.

tony · « **Reply #1133 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:09 PM »

^parehong nagbasa ng bible, magkasalungat ang naging pagkaunawa...

barrister · « **Reply #1134 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:22 PM »

Iba pa rin ang JWs.

Ang JW, may sariling bible --- the NWT bible ("New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures").

The NWT bible is published by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, the JW body in charge of directing, administering and developing JW official doctrine.

Walang sariling bible ang INC.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1135 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:24 PM »

Madaming bawal sa JW ...... a good friend of mine from way back is JW and he got into a lot of troubles and arguments because of his beliefs.

Also, one of my guys from my old work converted to JW just a few uears ago - bawal daw manlibre ang isang JW kapag birthday niya ...... pero kapag siya ang ililibre kapag birthday nang iba, pwede daw.

barrister · « **Reply #1136 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:36 PM »

Bawal din sa JW yon.

JWs believe birthdays are a pagan practice. They are forbidden from participating in pagan practices.

They cannot give or accept birthday gifts, because giving or accepting them will be an act of participating in the practice.

Paano kung iba ang may birthday. May nanlibre sa mga kaibigan, kasama ang isang JW. The JW cannot accept, because accepting is an act of participating.

Bakit ok kay amigo ang libre sa kanya para sa kaibigan na may birthday?

Either hindi alam na bawal, o hindi lang natiis...

tony · « **Reply #1137 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:42 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 28, 2015 at 08:22 PM

Iba pa rin ang JWs.

Ang JW, may sariling bible --- the NWT bible ("New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures").

The NWT bible is published by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, the JW body in charge of directing, administering and developing JW official doctrine.

Walang sariling bible ang INC.

so the bible can be translated into which ever way you like.....

barrister · « **Reply #1138 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 08:48 PM »

Quote from: tony on Oct 28, 2015 at 08:42 PM

so the bible can be translated into which ever way you like.....

Oo naman. Kanya-kanyang paniniwala yon. E di bahala ka.

Gusto mo, bible ng bading meron. Iniba nang konti ang sitas, hindi na masama ang homosexual acts...

http://www.amazon.com/The-Queen-James-Bible/dp/0615724531
http://www.gotquestions.org/Queen-James-Bible.html

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1139 on:** Oct 28, 2015 at 10:01 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 28, 2015 at 08:36 PM

Bawal din sa JW yon.

JWs believe birthdays are a pagan practice. They are forbidden from participating in pagan practices.

They cannot give or accept birthday gifts, because giving or accepting them will be an act of participating in the practice.

Paano kung iba ang may birthday. May nanlibre sa mga kaibigan, kasama ang isang JW. The JW cannot accept, because accepting is an act of participating.

Bakit ok kay amigo ang libre sa kanya para sa kaibigan na may birthday?

Either hindi alam na bawal, o hindi lang natiis...

In the short time he's been JW, he has become a pastor of sorts in his church ......kaya sigurado ako, na alam niya kung ano bawal or hindi.

Sa hindi pag celebrate nang birthday niya, he claims religion ...... sa pagsama naman niya kapag iba ang mag celebrate, he just gives a wink and laughs. Tao nga naman ano.