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Philander · « **Reply #480 on:** Aug 29, 2015 at 10:40 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Aug 29, 2015 at 09:46 PM

Swerte lang ako na sa pamilya ko(kami ng mga anak ko) ay pareho ng pananaw sa nangyayari ngayon. Idadaan na lang namin sa matinding panalangin ang lahat. Yan kasi ang turo sa amin na lubos na magtiwala sa Ama at wag susuko. Manalangin lang na mataimtim.

So yung mga nasa EDSA, wala silang matinding panalangin?

ricky · « **Reply #481 on:** Aug 29, 2015 at 11:00 PM »

^hindi ko masabi, hindi ko sila kakilala. Hindi ko din masabi bakit kailangan nila mag rally, tingin ba nila hindi na sasagutin panalangin nila? Hindi ko talaga alam. Nun wednesday na sumamba ako yan ang texto, manalig sa Ama, kaya nagulat ako may rally na ng thursday.

Pero im sure nananalangin din sila, mukha lang hindi nila napag isipan ng mabuti aksyon nila. Hindi nila siguro naisip na pwede nila masira magandang image ng INC.

Philander · « **Reply #482 on:** Aug 29, 2015 at 11:27 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Aug 29, 2015 at 11:00 PM

^hindi ko masabi, hindi ko sila kakilala. Hindi ko din masabi bakit kailangan nila mag rally, tingin ba nila hindi na sasagutin panalangin nila? Hindi ko talaga alam. Nun wednesday na sumamba ako yan ang texto, manalig sa Ama, kaya nagulat ako may rally na ng thursday.

Pero im sure nananalangin din sila, mukha lang hindi nila napag isipan ng mabuti aksyon nila. Hindi nila siguro naisip na pwede nila masira magandang image ng INC.

Thanks.

Can you validate kung totoo ito na galing sa INC:

CoolTOYZPH · « **Reply #483 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM »

Very interesting.
Seems to be contradicting that they espouse "separation of church and state" but issues in No.8 are mostly political issues.

Quote from: Philander on Aug 29, 2015 at 11:27 PM

Thanks.

Can you validate kung totoo ito na galing sa INC:

Ice Storm · « **Reply #484 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 29, 2015 at 07:37 PM

Masyadong mabigat kasi ang kasong isinampa --- Serious Illegal Detention. Non-bailable yan.

Per SC anything is bailable.

See the People vs Enrile.

barrister · « **Reply #485 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 02:11 AM »

Quote from: Ice Storm on Aug 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM

Per SC anything is bailable.

See the People vs Enrile.

Non-bailable means bail is discretionary. It does not mean bail is impossible.

If "anything is bailable," why can't Bong Revilla and Jinggoy Estrada post bail?

toys4geeks · « **Reply #486 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 03:21 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 30, 2015 at 02:11 AM

Non-bailable means bail is discretionary. It does not mean bail is impossible.

If "anything is bailable," why can't Bong Revilla and Jinggoy Estrada post bail?

Tumpak!

Cruzader1986 · « **Reply #487 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 03:25 AM »

buti pa pokpok, nagpapabayad kung nagpapagamit. yang iba dyan, libre lang ang magpagamit sa iba

toys4geeks · « **Reply #488 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 03:39 AM »

Quote from: Dodie on Aug 29, 2015 at 09:10 PM

kawawa din talaga ang administrasyon at mga pambato nito.....isipin nyo kung makikisimpatya sila at lalambot dahil sa protesta ng iglesya, maaring ang basa ng tao ay sila ay namumulitika at gustong makuha ang block vote ng INC....ngayon namang nanindigan sa kanilang pagkupkop kay samson at binigyang pansin ang hinaing nito....ang basa naman ay gagamitin ito na pang blackmail sa elekyon......
its a simple case of "damn if you do, damn if you dont"

kawawang PNOY at LP.........

Sumagot na si Mar supporting the rule of law.I can't help but admire his stance despite tatakbo siya and still makes it possible to enjoy a solid vote ng INC kung manahimik na lang.

I also admire the INC members that confirm may sarili silang pananaw sa usapin na nagpatunay na di lahat at ayon sa kinilos sa EDSA patungkol sa kanilang hinaing.

Ngayong nakita ko na ang mga pulitiko na simbilis ni The Flash kung makisawsaw sa kaguluhan-- i have crossed off my hopes for Poe.

Ice Storm · « **Reply #489 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 05:33 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 30, 2015 at 02:11 AM

Non-bailable means bail is discretionary. It does not mean bail is impossible.

If "anything is bailable," why can't Bong Revilla and Jinggoy Estrada post bail?

They aren't as scary as Tanda.

Guess who is also plenty scary.

AppleMan · « **Reply #490 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 06:15 AM »

Dapat bang ipag-RALLY ng mga INCM yung dati nilang MINISTRO at CHIEF EDITOR ng PASUBO este PASUGO na nagsampa ng DEMANDA laban sa SANGUNIAN nila? kung wala namang BASEHAN yung ISINAMPA bakit nanggagalaiti mag-RALLY yung mga member na inutusan ng SANGGUNIAN nila at naperwisyo lang mga tao dami na na-trapik at napagod at di nakauwi agad para makapahinga sa bahay, di ba bawal ang MAG-RALLY na isa sa doktrina nila? Kung SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE ang pinaglalaban di ba naka-saad sa batas na yon pakibasa na lang.....

Quote

The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines

Declares: The Separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6).
And, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship without discrimination or preference, shall
forever be allowed.

However, involvement of a "crime" inside the church such as:

sex crimes, shooting incidents, ABDUCTIONS, HOSTAGES etc, are required mere intervention from the State as the LAW of the Land.

Nagtatanong lang po wala po ako ibang intensyon kundi malinawan lang, kasi dami na-perwisyo lalo na mga dumadaan sa EDSA sobrang na-perwisyo pumanghi yung daan at ang daming KALAT sa kalye....

sovrain · « **Reply #491 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 06:29 AM »

Baka guilty nga, kaya pinipigilan ,,,de Lima for President!

.....

jerix · « **Reply #492 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 07:09 AM »

Bro NAD mas maganda siguro kong gawin mong mas friendly ang tanong mo.

bosyo · « **Reply #493 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 07:42 AM »

natural na yan sa mga Filipino pag may RALLY may KALAT hehehehe

sovrain · « **Reply #494 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 08:16 AM »

Quote from: ricky on Aug 29, 2015 at 09:46 PM

. For the last number of elections halos yung nakalalamang naman ang dinadala namin. Bihirang bihira kami bumoto ng hindi sure winner. Alam nyo na siguro kung bakit.

papaano yan, kung si Mar ang nakakalamang(kunyari lang), will INC support him despite sa pagkontra nya sa ipinaglalaban ng mga sanggunian?

tony · « **Reply #495 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 08:38 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 30, 2015 at 02:11 AM

Non-bailable means bail is discretionary. It does not mean bail is impossible.

If "anything is bailable," why can't Bong Revilla and Jinggoy Estrada post bail?

hindi pa naman final ang bail case ni Enrile....

Branded_Things · « **Reply #496 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 08:47 AM »

Sorry to INC members here. But take this to heart please. I cancelled 1 shoot, 1 party event, 1 get together with former colleagues and wasted my gasoline going to a client. Its your STUPID BLOC decision system. I used to defend INC as they are organised and well meaninged if they have an affair or a general congregation. It seems I was mistaken. INC PAKSHET. Sorry for the last word i muttered. Wasted time wasted effort wasted profit wasted gasoline.

jackryan · « **Reply #497 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 08:53 AM »

Sana dun na lang sila mag-rally sa Phil Arena kahit isang taon, araw-araw or even forever, pwede sila sa loob nun... ang importante, huwag mang-istorbo ng iba... what they are doing at EDSA and Padre Faura is really frustrating for the majority of the general public !

tony · « **Reply #498 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 08:54 AM »

there are folks who think that they are more privileged than others,
like sheep they are herded where their leaders want them....
i just hope that they do not end up like those in the Guyana massacre...
this latest act of the INC is nothing more than a fraternity gathering...
yes the Philiipine Arena will make a very good venue indeed...

sovrain · « **Reply #499 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 09:08 AM »

Quote from: jackryan on Aug 30, 2015 at 08:53 AM

Sana dun na lang sila mag-rally sa Phil Arena kahit isang taon, araw-araw or even forever, pwede sila sa loob nun... ang importante, huwag mang-istorbo ng iba... what they are doing at EDSA and Padre Faura is really frustrating for the majority of the general public !

di isang taon ding sarado ang NLEX

sana nga mag isip naman sila na hindi sila nakakaabala at nakakaperwisyo ng ibang tao. Karanasan ko, yung byahe dapat ng 20 minutes e, inabot ako ng 3 hours. From 6am, saka lang ako nag breakfast ng 9am. Ang pinakamasama, kinailangan kong pigilan ang jebaks ko sa loob ng tatlong oras....bwakanang!!@# ha ha ha

zonks · « **Reply #500 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 09:11 AM »

hehehe ayus bro

ricky · « **Reply #501 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 10:51 AM »

Quote from: Branded_Things on Aug 30, 2015 at 08:47 AM

Sorry to INC members here. But take this to heart please. I cancelled 1 shoot, 1 party event, 1 get together with former colleagues and wasted my gasoline going to a client. Its your STUPID BLOC decision system. I used to defend INC as they are organised and well meaninged if they have an affair or a general congregation. It seems I was mistaken. INC PAKSHET. Sorry for the last word i muttered. Wasted time wasted effort wasted profit wasted gasoline.

Pare yan lang pinag daanan mo, kami yung samahan namin nakasalalay. Hindi ako hihingi ng pasensya sa inyo kasi pati kami din naman naabala at napeperwisyo sa kagagawan ng iilang tao.

Bro philander, sorry cant verify if its real or not. Have not seen nor heard of it. Kung totoo ito , nakakalungkot. Kung hindi ito totoo, mas nakakalungkot.

Kung sakaling nag pahayag ng rally ang pamunuan dahil sa nangyayaring mali sa gobyerno natin AT IYON LANG TALAGA ANG ISYU , malamang sumama pa ako. Pero kung pag rarally para sa kung ano pa mang pang sariling dahilan, haaaay sana patawarin pa rin ako ng Ama.

Napaka sakit ng pinagdadaanan naming lahat,sabi ko nga sa mga anak ko delete na nila mga fb accounts nila. Wag na magbasa ng kung ano anong comments kasi talaga lang nakaka apekto lalo na ang nakasalalay ay napaka halaga sa amin.

Next to pagiging active ko sa INC, alam nyo naman na active din ako dito sa pinoydvd. May halaga ba sa inyo yon? Kuya tony at atty barrister salamat for easing the tension, gim(toysforgeeks) ganoon din syo.

Ang hirap sa kalooban talaga.

barrister · « **Reply #502 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM »

Catholics hold a rally against the RH Bill, rally permits issued by the government, Ortigas and part of EDSA closed, heavy traffic results, nobody complains.

INC holds a rally against DOJ, rally permits also issued by the government, heavy traffic results, and people lose their minds.

tony · « **Reply #503 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM »

no need for INC members to be apologetic about anything....
what is happening is just a "phase" in the life of any church....
lilipas din yan.....

tony · « **Reply #504 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 11:27 AM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM

Catholics hold a rally against the RH Bill, permits issued by the government, Ortigas and part of EDSA closed, heavy traffic results, nobody complains.

INC holds a rally against DOJ, permits also issued by the government, heavy traffic results, and people lose their minds.

oh yes, catholics were at EDSA 86, edsa2, 3 and many others,
we really have nothing to complain about except that the INC leadership
seems to be missing the boat with this one, the way i look at it,
the biggest motive is that of losing one's face with the possible filing of charges,
and possible arrest, imagine the saunggunian herded to prison....
the INC leadership is simply not equipped to cope with this other
than use legitimate citizens' rights to rally...
rally all they want, but if government backs down, expect a bigger rally.....

barrister · « **Reply #505 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 11:42 AM »

A few years ago, pauwi ako ng Metro Manila via Batangas, heavy traffic more than 1 hour. May prusisyon pala ng Flores de Mayo.

A few kilometers later, traffic na naman. More than 1 hour na naman ang abala. This time, Flores de Mayo prusisyon pala ng mga kids.

A few kilometers later, traffic na naman. More than 1 hour abala na naman. This time Flores de Mayo prusisyon ng mga bakla.

Regular na seremonyas pa lang yan, wala pang pinoprotesta. Around 4 hours ang abala sa akin. Nobody complains, sanay na kasi.

Nag rally ang INC, hindi sanay ang mga tao. People lose their minds.

Hindi ko sinasabing ok lang mang-abala ng traffic.

Ang sinasabi ko, pag sinita n'yo ang abala ng INC, sitahin n'yo rin ang abala ng Katoliko, para fair.

ricky · « **Reply #506 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM »

Abala is abala ika nga kahit sino may gawa. Maraming salamat pa rin. Iba talaga dito sa pdvd

dodie · « **Reply #507 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 12:05 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Aug 30, 2015 at 11:21 AM

Catholics hold a rally against the RH Bill, rally permits issued by the government, Ortigas and part of EDSA closed, heavy traffic results, nobody complains.

INC holds a rally against DOJ, rally permits also issued by the government, heavy traffic results, and people lose their minds.

siguro naiintindihan na ngayon ng mga tao kung ano ang legit na grievance at mga gawa gawang hinaing lamang...
maraming mga celebrasyon ng nakakaabala sa traffic mapa iglesia o katoliko o protestante o mga bading, pero ito ay lehitimong celebrasyon. ang nagyaring protesta sa edsa ngayon, kaya SIGURO maraming naglabas ng hinaing kse they feel it is unecessary o kya hindi legit ang protest! ikaw ba naniniwala ng pinepersecute ng gobyerno at ginigipit ang liderato ng INC?

ninjababez® · « **Reply #508 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Aug 30, 2015 at 11:47 AM

Abala is abala ika nga kahit sino may gawa. Maraming salamat pa rin. Iba talaga dito sa pdvd

bro madami kasi dito pdvd nasa bahay lang ini-enjoy HT at audio setup nila hehehe

ricky · « **Reply #509 on:** Aug 30, 2015 at 12:17 PM »

Tumpak