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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2460 on: Aug 05, 2004 at 10:02 PM »
doc eposman, glad you're enjoying the preamp :) yung ipapalit ko di pa tapos, medyo busy si andrew  O0

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2461 on: Aug 05, 2004 at 10:55 PM »
OK yan... ur TT will sound MALAMBOT if connected to an AMX pre-amp. ;D
mas lalong MALAMBOT na TT nyo pag gagamitan pa nyo ng AMX 300B power amp   :o  ;D

Sir di ko mapigil tawa ko.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2462 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 12:55 AM »
sir welcome to the club... I mean welcome to your club.

isang tanong lang sir kung pwede. ano ba ibig sabihin ng AMX

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2463 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 12:57 AM »
Mga sir, sali po ako sa club kung OK lang sa inyo. I am now the proud owner of a contodo preamp (thanks to john5479). I changed the tubes as follows: RCA 5U4G as rectifier, RCA cleartops for the linestage, and telefunken 12AX7 for the phono stage. All I can say is....malupit!!! The sound is definitely good!!! Maganda ang phono stage. Likewise for the linestage, though I prefer to use the auxiliary inputs over the CD buffer. Congrats to Master Andrew for a well designed and well built preamp.
System I used: Rega Planar 3 TT with RB300 arm and Clearaudio Aurum Beta cart, Sony CDP-337ESD CD Player alternating with Exposure 2010 CDP, AMX Contodo Preamp, Dynaco ST70 (fully upgraded by Rene, using point to point wiring, NO PCB), and Epos ES14 speakers.

doc, congrats sa ATIN!, hehehehe!...doc, nakalimutan ko yung mga suggestions mo re: auricaps and blackgates, paki-PM naman doc...tama ka maganda nga yung phono stage...mabuhay ka! 8)
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2464 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 07:26 AM »
Guys,

Grabe dami na pala nangyari.. just a day without PC waaaaa.. teka sino ba dumating??


Si Master Andrew  eh... ah oo nga..

Welcome to PinoyDVD Master!! ;D ;D




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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2465 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 07:42 AM »
OK yan... ur TT will sound MALAMBOT if connected to an AMX pre-amp. ;D
mas lalong MALAMBOT na TT nyo pag gagamitan pa nyo ng AMX 300B power amp   :o  ;D

attorney,

Ok yan napatawa ako dun ah.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2466 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 07:46 AM »
superman,

M A L A M B O T?? wag!!! kawawa naman yun mga Takusa..


MALAMBOT na Takusa??  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2467 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 08:08 AM »
gulaman gulaman! hehehehe
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2468 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 08:35 AM »
OK yan... ur TT will sound MALAMBOT if connected to an AMX pre-amp. ;D
mas lalong MALAMBOT na TT nyo pag gagamitan pa nyo ng AMX 300B power amp   :o  ;D

panyero,

pinatawa mo ako ng husto ah! hahahahahah ;D ;D ;D

supes,

tama nga yang MALAMBOT, bagay sa may TT.  ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2469 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 09:14 AM »
Sa wakas Andrew can view the thread. TExted him and said you might get shocked coz the AMX thread is the one of the most viewed here at Pinoydvd.com.  Superman galing ng idea mo...GAME NA!

BTW got the amp yesterday,  Andrew took out the 12ax7 and replaced them with 12at7's so lahat na ng small input tubes ko 12at7 although GE sila lahat  magkaibang pares pa din.  Dynamic and more oomp on the Vocals. Happy ako...:)

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2470 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 09:22 AM »
...may we have a rundown of MALAMBOT members???...


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please update...thanks! 8)
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2471 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 09:26 AM »
Thanks for your warm welcome guys. I hope I can find a venue so I can share my knowledge about tubes to help you enjoy your music without denting too much your wallets. Tubes have always been expensive. Hifi was always HI-FINANCE. But there is a way to enjoy the best musiccal sound from our tube amplifiers without having to go broke. Not that I do not appreciate those expensive rigs and components, maybe I just dont have that kind of money, but my quest is to be able to bring the best music at the least posssible price. Might be difficult but its worth the adventure, I think.
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2472 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 10:22 AM »
Thanks for your warm welcome guys. I hope I can find a venue so I can share my knowledge about tubes to help you enjoy your music without denting too much your wallets. Tubes have always been expensive. Hifi was always HI-FINANCE. But there is a way to enjoy the best musiccal sound from our tube amplifiers without having to go broke. Not that I do not appreciate those expensive rigs and components, maybe I just dont have that kind of money, but my quest is to be able to bring the best music at the least posssible price. Might be difficult but its worth the adventure, I think.

ayos!...i nominate mr. andrew sevilla as chairman and adviser of the MALAMBOT club!

i also nominate kimpao as president, hans and france as marketing officer...and i nominate myself as athletic beadle... :D :D :D
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2473 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 10:45 AM »
Thanks for your warm welcome guys. I hope I can find a venue so I can share my knowledge about tubes to help you enjoy your music without denting too much your wallets. Tubes have always been expensive. Hifi was always HI-FINANCE. But there is a way to enjoy the best musiccal sound from our tube amplifiers without having to go broke. Not that I do not appreciate those expensive rigs and components, maybe I just dont have that kind of money, but my quest is to be able to bring the best music at the least posssible price. Might be difficult but its worth the adventure, I think.

Andrew thanks for making it possible for me to experiment on tube sound without having to spend so much. I very much like the sound of my tube amp. Looking forward to hearing about the improved output transformers you're working on.

I own a AMX el34 single ended which I modified just a bit. So I guess that makes me a MALAMBOT OR AMBOT member?

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2474 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 02:03 PM »
Ang hirap pala pag kagigising mo lang, dami na pala nangyari. Puyat nanaman!!!!! Ahehehehehehe!!! ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2475 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 02:27 PM »
REPOSTING:

so...do we call the AMX Club as MALAMBOT (Malupit na AMx Buddies' and Owners' Tribe) para we can have an investiture...punta tayo sa phasetron and ask the master designer to bestow on us his "basbas"...then we can update our profile here as "Member, MALAMBOT"...

by the word AMx buddies pasok na din kami as members, right....  the ones whos always present on AMX sessions kahit walang AMX and are saving up (quite hard) for one. kaya nga buddies and owners tawag d b?

so sama nyo n kami.

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2476 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 02:35 PM »
Thanks for your warm welcome guys. I hope I can find a venue so I can share my knowledge about tubes to help you enjoy your music without denting too much your wallets. Tubes have always been expensive. Hifi was always HI-FINANCE. But there is a way to enjoy the best musiccal sound from our tube amplifiers without having to go broke. Not that I do not appreciate those expensive rigs and components, maybe I just dont have that kind of money, but my quest is to be able to bring the best music at the least posssible price. Might be difficult but its worth the adventure, I think.

sir andrew, welcome!

this is quite inspiring specially for us who are still in the planning and saving up stage, sana this pushes through sir, as this will serve a great deal of help for us, newbies in the world of tubes.

best regards.

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2477 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 02:36 PM »
OK yan... ur TT will sound MALAMBOT if connected to an AMX pre-amp. ;D
mas lalong MALAMBOT na TT nyo pag gagamitan pa nyo ng AMX 300B power amp   :o  ;D

good one panyero! good bumper sticker if i may say so.

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2478 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 02:57 PM »
Thanks for your warm welcome guys. I hope I can find a venue so I can share my knowledge about tubes to help you enjoy your music without denting too much your wallets. Tubes have always been expensive. Hifi was always HI-FINANCE. But there is a way to enjoy the best musiccal sound from our tube amplifiers without having to go broke. Not that I do not appreciate those expensive rigs and components, maybe I just dont have that kind of money, but my quest is to be able to bring the best music at the least posssible price. Might be difficult but its worth the adventure, I think.

Sir, I salute your vision, mabuhay ka!

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2479 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 03:32 PM »
Guys,

Passed by at Phasetron yesterday and saw a KT66 SET amp 10 watter and EL84 15 watter push pull.. initial impression both amp have sweet and smooth vocals details is right but this amps i think would not be for headbangers  ;D ;D the EL84 sports a wood siding  ;D ;D ;D ( same sa amp ko ).. yun KT66 is good for space conscious guys kasi pahaba sya compare to our regular amps and wowow very big Malory caps at the back.. btw both amps are tube rectified.. ;) ;)

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2480 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:00 PM »

Di naman ganun ka dali maubos yun EL34 you'll have years pa of listening pleasure kahit 24/7 pa naka-on years pa rin..

here's an excerpt from an article I read entitled "How a Vacuum Tube Works?" by Eric Barbour

"The lifetime of a tube is determined by the lifetime of its cathode emission. And the life of a cathode is dependent on the cathode temperature, the degree of vacuum in the tube, and purity of the materials in the cathode.

Tube life is sharply dependent on temperature, which means that it is dependent on filament or heater operating voltage. Operate the heater/filament too hot, and the tube will give a shortened life. Operate it too cool and life may be shortened (especially in thoriated filaments, which depend on replenishment of thorium by diffusion from within the filament wire). A few researchers have observed that the lifetime of an oxide-cathode tube can be greatly increased by operating its heater at 20% below the rated voltage. This USUALLY has very little effect on the cathode's electron emission, and might be worth experimenting with if the user wishes to increase the lifetime of a small-signal tube. (Low heater voltage is NOT recommended for power tubes, as the tube may not give the rated power output.) Operating the heater at a very low voltage has been observed to linearize some tube types-- we have not been able to verify this, so it may be another worthy experiment for an OEM or sophisticated experimenter. The average end-user is advised to use the rated heater or filament voltage--experimentation is not recommended unless the user is an experienced technician.

Oxide cathodes tend to give shorter lifetimes than thoriated filaments. Purity of materials is a big issue in making long-lived oxide cathodes--some impurities, such as silicates in the nickel tube, will cause the cathode to lose emission prematurely and "wear out". Low-cost tubes of inferior quality often wear out faster than better-quality tubes of the same type, due to impure cathodes.
Small-signal tubes almost always use oxide cathodes. Good-quality tubes of this type, if operated well within their ratings and at the correct heater voltage, can last 100,000 hours or more.

The world record for lifetime of a power tube is held by a large transmitting tetrode with a thoriated filament. It was in service in a Los Angeles radio station's transmitter for 10 years, for a total of more than 80,000 hours. When finally taken out of service, it was still functioning adequately. (The station saved it as a spare.) By comparison, a typical oxide-cathode glass power tube, such as an EL34, will last about 1500-2000 hours; and a tube with an oxide-coated filament, such as a 300B, will last about 4000-10,000 hours. This is dependent on all the factors listed above, so different customers will observe different lifetimes."

So, if an EL34 tube is made to perform on a 24/7 work shift, its estimated lifetime of 2000 hrs would equate to only 83 days and 8 hrs. while on the other hand, a 300B tube would last longer with its estimated lifespan of 10,000 hrs which is roughly equivalent to 416 days and 16 hrs.

pero sino naman ang magpapatugtog at makikinig ng 24/7 ???  ::)
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2481 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:25 PM »
audioslave,

Very informative senor.. ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2482 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:37 PM »
hmmmmm 2,000 hours.....

1 hr everyday ----> 5.5 yrs
2 hrs everyday ---> 2.7 yrs
3 hrs everyday ---> 1.8 yrs
4 hrs everyday ---> 1.4 yrs

ako yata between 1hr to 2hrs everyday lang gamit ko kaya baka umabot ng 3-4yrs hehehe.

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2483 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:41 PM »
10,000 hours for the 300B tubes...yehey!... :D :D :D
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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2484 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:46 PM »
hmmmmm 2,000 hours.....

1 hr everyday ----> 5.5 yrs
2 hrs everyday ---> 2.7 yrs
3 hrs everyday ---> 1.8 yrs
4 hrs everyday ---> 1.4 yrs

ako yata between 1hr to 2hrs everyday lang gamit ko kaya baka umabot ng 3-4yrs hehehe.

Why worry with such matrices eh buwan lang inaabot ang karamihan ng mga gears natin ng dahil sa SARS. Ahehehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D Fish en Chips po tayooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2485 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:46 PM »
10,000 hours for the 300B tubes...yehey!... :D :D :D

between 6.8 years (4hrs/day) to 27 years (1hr/day) yan pre, wala na palit-palit hehehe.

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2486 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:48 PM »


between 6.8 years (4hrs/day) to 27 years (1hr/day) yan pre, wala na palit-palit hehehe.

dapat lang, mahal yang 300B buti na lang sulit  ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2487 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:48 PM »
hmmmmm 2,000 hours.....

1 hr everyday ----> 5.5 yrs
2 hrs everyday ---> 2.7 yrs
3 hrs everyday ---> 1.8 yrs
4 hrs everyday ---> 1.4 yrs

ako yata between 1hr to 2hrs everyday lang gamit ko kaya baka umabot ng 3-4yrs hehehe.

Pareho tayo sir Akyat.. buti pa silang 300B boys.. kahit yun anak nila pwede abutan tube amps nila paglaki.. pero kung tamaan sila ng SARS after 3 years hehehe iba naman tube nila..  ;D ;D

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2488 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 05:59 PM »
ok lang naman kasi 1.2k lang ang isang St. Petersburg winged "C" EL34.

2.4k/pair every 3yrs.... mas malaki gastos ko sa kape hehehe.  ;D ;D ;D

parang malapit din ang lifetime & cost sa 300B kung bibili ka din eventually ng 5 pairs.... practical din pala na option ang 300B dahil sa tagal ng tube life niya parang bumili ka ng 5 pairs of EL34, tapos maganda pa tunog.
« Last Edit: Aug 06, 2004 at 06:14 PM by akyatbundok »

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Re: AMX Integrated Tube Amp
« Reply #2489 on: Aug 06, 2004 at 06:08 PM »
kim, tindi mo! hehehehe!...medyo mahal ang 300B especially kung NOS...so kung mga 6-years paeh, di at least mapag-iipunan...teka, di pa naman ako nagpapatay ng equipment, sigh! 8)
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