Topic: Samsung PS51E550 3D Full HD Plasma TV

[barrister]

sir barrister..the film mode is disabled in my options..I am using the hdmi 1 input..

Film Mode: CinemaSmooth (1080p24, 96Hz

this is the only setting I can't change


edit
saw the post of sir skooter hehe

Ano ang source video file mo sir?  What resolution and frame rate?

Cinema Smooth can be enabled only if the video is 1080 resolution and 24p frame rate. 
 

[disturbed]

Ano ang source video file mo sir?  What resolution and frame rate?

Cinema Smooth can be enabled only if the video is 1080 resolution and 24p frame rate. 
 

I was able to enable it sir..saw the difference..it's the motion I saw on other demo displays before..I thought the motion was inherent to led displays..since most of the time that kind of motion I always see on high end led displays hehe

[sardaukar]

I was wondering if it was my imagination or if the TV really runs hotter when playing 3d. To satisfy my curiosity I ran watt readings while watching different movies and these are what I got:

prometheus 3D 1080p (2.35:1) low: 88 high: 247 ave: 141w

cars 2 3D 1080p (2.35:1) low: 90 high: 305 ave: 210w

toy story 1 3D 1080p (16:9) low: 117 high: 333 ave: 218w

toy story 1 (not 3d) 1080p (16:9) low: 74 high: 192 ave: 125w

hp goblet of fire (not 3d) 1080p (2.35:1) low: 70 high: 167 ave: 88w


I'm not really sure why but the difference is considerable. But I was pleasantly surprised that this 51" tv uses less power than my old 42PV8. And that when you're watching a dark movie like goblet of fire, the tv uses about as much power as my desktop computer (not counting the monitor).

BTW, for those still looking for extra glasses, I got mine at SM Makati. A 2pack of SSG4100 for P1990.

[barrister]

Compare picture settings between 3D and 2D.  Default settings are brighter for 3D.  So the picture will jump to a brighter setting once you go to 3D mode.  The brighter setting will of course result in higher electric consumption and hotter operating temperature.

My own picture settings are also brighter for 3D, since the extra brightness is necessary to compensate for the darkness of the 3D glasses.

The TV also has to work harder in 3D while it's maintaining synchronization between glasses and screen.  I don't know how much power consumption that puts in, but that still causes additional consumption and heat.

[sardaukar]

At the same brightness settings toy story 3D averaged 160w. Malayo din pala (cell light of 10 compared to 18--the other settings were already the same). I didn't think it would go down that much. The remaining 35w di ko na alam. Parang synchronization wouldn't use that much. But what do I know.

Anyway, I was just wondering.

[barrister]

Anyway, I was just wondering.

OK lang sir, nanghuhula lang din naman ako e ... 
 
Plus additonal processing siguro ng 3D file to render the SBS or sequential video correctly on screen kaya mas malakas sa power.

[skooter]

just seen the F4500 in action ang pangit hehehe...so far ang series 4(2013) pa dumating dito ah.

[DTNS]

just seen the F4500 in action ang pangit hehehe...so far ang series 4(2013) pa dumating dito ah.

F5500 and the F8500 are the ones to wait for.

[≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦]

The 3D bluray is actually 2x1080p kaya baka mas malakas sa kuryente than the 2D. 

[barrister]

That's right.

3D Blu ray is actually 1920 x 2205.  It's an over-under format with left and right eye frames, 1920 x 1080 each, plus 45 pixels in between (active blanking).  The over-under pair appears in one big frame at 24 big frames per second.

The TV decodes the frame packing and converts the frame pack into left and right eye sequential format.

The decoding and processing will of course consume more electricity.

[Stagea]

At the same brightness settings toy story 3D averaged 160w. Malayo din pala (cell light of 10 compared to 18--the other settings were already the same). I didn't think it would go down that much. The remaining 35w di ko na alam. Parang synchronization wouldn't use that much. But what do I know.

Anyway, I was just wondering.

Much of the increased power consumption is due to the increased panel drive when running 3D afaik. Aside from the shading effect of the glasses, a much higher intensity is required because of the halved field period with active 3D designs (even less in most cases, to account for sync and shutter latency).

[sardaukar]

Thanks.

[DTNS]

I hope to see the 51F5500 (the 51E550's successor) in our market soon! 

[cxiao12]

Update po ng price nito? meron na po ba?

[cxiao12]

May bigger screen pa po ba? bukod a 51"?

[DTNS]

May bigger screen pa po ba? bukod a 51"?

meron. 64 inches. pero nasa 150+k na ang price nito.

[cxiao12]

meron. 64 inches. pero nasa 150+k na ang price nito.

masyado ng mahal.

[zerglingboy]

hello po mga Sir.  Newbie lang po.

I am currently considering my first modern TV (CRT lang po meron ako).  Basa po ako ng basa ng mga forums and finally I zeroed in on Plasma and this particular model. 

Medyo hesitant lang ako ngayun kasi po dun sa AVS forum di masyado ok yung tingin nila dito sa PS51E550.
Mas ok daw po yung panasonic VT and UT pero wala ata sa Pilipinas ng 51 inch variant.  Pero sa pinoydvd mukhang ok naman ang review. 

nung una po 35K lng budget ko sa TV pero nung nakita ko yung review dito i am willing to strecth the budget up to 50K.

question lang po
1)  may buzzing issue po ba amg mga unit na nandito sa Pinas?  normal la po ba ito?
2)  parang sasakyan, may break-in period po ba ang plasma tv na to?
3)  ano ung ways para maiwasan yung IR (image retention at Burn in)?  since 50K is a lot tome I want to make sure I will take good care of my TV.

Hope to hear from you mga Sir para makapagdecide na ako kung eto na ba talaga bibilhin ko.
Salamat po.

[barrister]

Medyo hesitant lang ako ngayun kasi po dun sa AVS forum di masyado ok yung tingin nila dito sa PS51E550.
Mas ok daw po yung panasonic VT and UT pero wala ata sa Pilipinas ng 51 inch variant.  Pero sa pinoydvd mukhang ok naman ang review. 

Mas OK talaga ang Panasonic VT50 and UT50, kung black level lang ang pag-uusapan.  Pero kung isasama mo ang ibang aspects - such as panel brightness, image retention, horizontal line bleeding, and vertical bands/stripes - hindi na mas OK ang Panasonic.
 
How about 39 pages of vertical banding issues with no solution in sight ---
 
http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1638736-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi.html

http://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs/1678005-panasonic-2012-vertical-band-issues-vbi-mvbi-part-2-a.html
 
 
 

question lang po
1) may buzzing issue po ba amg mga unit na nandito sa Pinas? normal la po ba ito?
2) parang sasakyan, may break-in period po ba ang plasma tv na to?
3) ano ung ways para maiwasan yung IR (image retention at Burn in)? since 50K is a lot tome I want to make sure I will take good care of my TV.

1) Normal ang buzzing sa lahat ng plasma brands.  Walang buzzing issue ang unit ko.  Pero may isang nag post sa pinoydvd na may buzzing issue raw ang unit niya.
 
2) Walang break in period ito.  Hindi na uso ang break-in sa kahit anong brand ng plasma ngayon. 
 
3) Image retention maiiwasan kung laging naiiba ang image sa screen.  Break-in procedures do not affect IR.
 

[zerglingboy]

maraming salamat Sir Barrister.  isang pahabol na lang po.  Eto na po ba yung sa tingin nyo eh best bang for the buck TV considering 50K budget ko?  (Mapa LED or plasma)

meron po ba kayung ibang naiisp or marerecommend na second choice?

salamat po uli...

[barrister]

Maraming bang for the buck LED sir.  Try Toshiba, maganda na, mura pa.
 
Pero kung plasma, tatlo lang ang manufacturers --- Panny, Sammy and LG.     
 
Palpak ang LG plasma, so scratch that from the list.  Maganda ang Panny and Sammy, pero wala namang 2012 model na 50 inch size sa Philippines.  So that leaves you with the Sammy.
 
Easy choice.  Tapos na ang boksing, kahit hindi na natin pag-usapan ang vertical stripe/band issue ng Panny.

[skooter]

sir what model and size yung toshiba? thx..

[skooter]

hi i'm just wondering does e550 support bluetooth speakers or headphones?

[gabotron]

Sir, okay pa rin ba ito kung umaabot sa 15 hours per day ang usage? I was wondering kung mas mabilis ang magiging wear n' tear niya than say, an LED or CCFL.

[zerglingboy]

Mga Sir

How about wall bracket for your PS51E550?
May marereccomend kayu?  How about kits to hide the wires?

[disturbed]

^ wall bracket? me sabre na brand..madami ka pag pipilian..2k ata ung cheapest na wall bracket sa sabre for this size..pero sa listening room 1.8k lng pag cash..2k firm sa SnS eh..

pero mas mura pa dun..daichi ung brand mas mukhang sturdy pa dun sa sabre na bbilihin ko sana..parang 1.5k ko ata nabili..nakalimutan ko na hehe

[DTNS]

kung bibili ka sa SnS, baka may free wall-mount ka na.

[skooter]

pair w/ bluetooth speakers does it work on e550? i'm planning to buy this bluetoot soundbar but i gotta make sure about it.

[disturbed]

pair w/ bluetooth speakers does it work on e550? i'm planning to buy this bluetoot soundbar but i gotta make sure about it.

"The Bluetooth function lets you connect to compatible devices such as compatible wireless Bluetooth keyboards and compatible 3D glasses, instantly transforming your TV experience. "

mukhang nde sir..kung me mahiraman kayo bluetooth headset sa mga officemate nyo or friends..baka pwede i try

[skooter]

"The Bluetooth function lets you connect to compatible devices such as compatible wireless Bluetooth keyboards and compatible 3D glasses, instantly transforming your TV experience. "

mukhang nde sir..kung me mahiraman kayo bluetooth headset sa mga officemate nyo or friends..baka pwede i try

can't think of someone i know who has bluetooth headfons or speakers, i cud use avr thru tv's optical out but i dont like to add another cable, for me pangit tingnan...