Topic: low cost low power consumption 24/7 torrent rig + htpc build help

[stockHT]

sir anong magandang board for Intel Celeron G530 2.40GHz? With USB 3 sana and HDMI and built graphics at optical out.

thanks!

[DTNS]

@all

what do you guys think of this itx htpc build?:

Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced   PHP 2130.00
Corsair CX 430watts (CX430)   PHP 2120.00
Asrock H61M ITX   PHP 3230.00
Intel Celeron (G530) 2.4Ghz (Dual Core) lga1155   PHP 1795.00
G.Skill Value 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBNT)   PHP 900.00
OCZ Agility 3 60gb sata3   PHP 2790.00
TOTAL: 12965

[Stagea]

@all

what do you guys think of this itx htpc build?:

Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced   PHP 2130.00
Corsair CX 430watts (CX430)   PHP 2120.00
Asrock H61M ITX   PHP 3230.00
Intel Celeron (G530) 2.4Ghz (Dual Core) lga1155   PHP 1795.00
G.Skill Value 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBNT)   PHP 900.00
OCZ Agility 3 60gb sata3   PHP 2790.00
TOTAL: 12965

It's more than adequate for typical 2D use.

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@all

what do you guys think of this itx htpc build?:

Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced   PHP 2130.00
Corsair CX 430watts (CX430)   PHP 2120.00
Asrock H61M ITX   PHP 3230.00
Intel Celeron (G530) 2.4Ghz (Dual Core) lga1155   PHP 1795.00
G.Skill Value 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBNT)   PHP 900.00
OCZ Agility 3 60gb sata3   PHP 2790.00
TOTAL: 12965

I believe that could do a 3D also just add a Video card as i also have same setup G620. 

[Stagea]

I believe that could do a 3D also just add a Video card as i also have same setup G620. 

Yes, or moving to an i3 processor or a Llano platform. Intel skipped HDMI 1.4a 3D in the Celeron and Pentium lines.

[DTNS]

to follow na ang video card. target ko na htpc gpu: 7750. maybe I'll reuse my i5 from my main rig when I decide to upgrade it. 

[Stagea]

to follow na ang video card. target ko na htpc gpu: 7750. maybe I'll reuse my i5 from my main rig when I decide to upgrade it. 

Good to go na yan for current content.

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Yes, or moving to an i3 processor or a Llano platform. Intel skipped HDMI 1.4a 3D in the Celeron and Pentium lines.

For me kahit di 1.4a kaya naman ang 3D i already use HDMI 1.3 and it can do 3D. 

to follow na ang video card. target ko na htpc gpu: 7750. maybe I'll reuse my i5 from my main rig when I decide to upgrade it. 

+1

[Stagea]

For me kahit di 1.4a kaya naman ang 3D i already use HDMI 1.3 and it can do 3D. 

+1

It's not a requirement, but the HD Graphics / Graphics 1000 of Celeron/Pentium implementations would have to do frame packing by software.

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It's not a requirement, but the HD Graphics / Graphics 1000 of Celeron/Pentium implementations would have to do frame packing by software.

I believe kaya naman ng gagamitan ni brader wag lang remux or iso 3D. 

[stockHT]

@all

what do you guys think of this itx htpc build?:

Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced   PHP 2130.00
Corsair CX 430watts (CX430)   PHP 2120.00
Asrock H61M ITX   PHP 3230.00
Intel Celeron (G530) 2.4Ghz (Dual Core) lga1155   PHP 1795.00
G.Skill Value 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBNT)   PHP 900.00
OCZ Agility 3 60gb sata3   PHP 2790.00
TOTAL: 12965

Sir what's the performance of this setup pagdating sa gaming?

[Stagea]

Sir what's the performance of this setup pagdating sa gaming?

Most modern games put more strain on the graphics engine, especially as you ramp settings up. A dedicated graphics adapter is highly recommended for this purpose (unless you're talking about FB games and the like).

[stockHT]

Most modern games put more strain on the graphics engine, especially as you ramp settings up. A dedicated graphics adapter is highly recommended for this purpose (unless you're talking about FB games and the like).

thanks for the info! i guess the VC will come in later.


Sir DTNS pwede mahiram yung listahan mo?





and btw without the VC, can this setup handle 3D playback? SBS and BD ISO?

[DTNS]

thanks for the info! i guess the VC will come in later.


Sir DTNS pwede mahiram yung listahan mo?





and btw without the VC, can this setup handle 3D playback? SBS and BD ISO?

go ahead. regarding handling 3D content, I think a gpu is still required.

[stockHT]

go ahead. regarding handling 3D content, I think a gpu is still required.

sir tapos na build mo?

[DTNS]

sir tapos na build mo?

hindi pa. bubuoin ko muna ang 5.1 ko bago ako bumuo ng htpc.

[stockHT]

about to dive in, last question - G620 or G530?? .20Ghz diff

[Stagea]

about to dive in, last question - G620 or G530?? .20Ghz diff

Not much difference in most cases. Go with what you like.

[stockHT]

Not much difference in most cases. Go with what you like.

Sir thanks!

although another thing came in, another comparison

Got this from PCHub, AMD build:

CPU: AMD Llano A4 3400 2.7 ghz - 2270
MOBO: Asrock A55M HVS - 2470
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws X (dual) 2x2gb ddr3 1600 CL9 - 1350
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 1tb - 3500
PSU: Antec VP350w - 1170

I am just concern about the Procie and mobo

CPU: AMD Llano A4 3400 2.7 ghz - 2270
> Intel Celeron G530 2.40GHz   1795

MOBO: Asrock A55M HVS - 2470
> Asrock H61M ITX   3230

Question now is should I go Intel or AMD?
Still looking for low power for torrent rig and high def movies and audio

Pero sa MOBO parang talo yung A55M kasi walang USB3 at Optical out

[Stagea]

Sir thanks!

although another thing came in, another comparison

Got this from PCHub, AMD build:

CPU: AMD Llano A4 3400 2.7 ghz - 2270
MOBO: Asrock A55M HVS - 2470
RAM: G.Skill RipJaws X (dual) 2x2gb ddr3 1600 CL9 - 1350
HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 1tb - 3500
PSU: Antec VP350w - 1170

I am just concern about the Procie and mobo

CPU: AMD Llano A4 3400 2.7 ghz - 2270
> Intel Celeron G530 2.40GHz   1795

MOBO: Asrock A55M HVS - 2470
> Asrock H61M ITX   3230

Question now is should I go Intel or AMD?
Still looking for low power for torrent rig and high def movies and audio

Pero sa MOBO parang talo yung A55M kasi walang USB3 at Optical out

A4 (or better yet A6-3500) delivers better video, but the G530 is the more energy-efficient option. Go a step up (A75) if you want native USB 3.0.

[stockHT]

A4 (or better yet A6-3500) delivers better video, but the G530 is the more energy-efficient option. Go a step up (A75) if you want native USB 3.0.

Sir Stagea, noticeable ba ang difference ng power consumption ng AMD at Intel based on the procie that were mentioned?

and if I wanna go AMD, what's the next bang for the buck mobo? parang hindi ko type yung Asrock A55M HVS kasi walang optical at USB3 port.

Sir what do you mean about native USB3?

[Stagea]

Sir Stagea, noticeable ba ang difference ng power consumption ng AMD at Intel based on the procie that were mentioned?

The difference isn't much, really. We're splitting hairs at this point.

and if I wanna go AMD, what's the next bang for the buck mobo? parang hindi ko type yung Asrock A55M HVS kasi walang optical at USB3 port.

A75M-ITX includes both an optical and 4 USB 3.0 ports. Of course, you can also find motherboards from other brands.

Sir what do you mean about native USB3?

Native, meaning it's not a mere add-on. Add-on USB 3.0 controllers like those used in boards utilizing older chipsets can be problematic when running devices that are sensitive to latency. They generally do not offer the same performance as native implementations as well, as most rely on a PCI-E 1x link.

Native USB 3.0 Support:
AMD - A68M, A70M, A75, A85X
Intel - B75, Q75, Q77, H77, Z75, Z77, QS77, QM77, UM77, HM77, HM76, HM75, HM70

If a motherboard offers USB 3.0 and utilizes an older chipset, chances are it's using an add-on USB 3.0 controller.

[stockHT]

The difference isn't much, really. We're splitting hairs at this point.
A75M-ITX includes both an optical and 4 USB 3.0 ports. Of course, you can also find motherboards from other brands.
Native, meaning it's not a mere add-on. Add-on USB 3.0 controllers like those used in boards utilizing older chipsets can be problematic when running devices that are sensitive to latency. They generally do not offer the same performance as native implementations as well, as most rely on a PCI-E 1x link.

Native USB 3.0 Support:
AMD - A68M, A70M, A75, A85X
Intel - B75, Q75, Q77, H77, Z75, Z77, QS77, QM77, UM77, HM77, HM76, HM75, HM70

If a motherboard offers USB 3.0 and utilizes an older chipset, chances are it's using an add-on USB 3.0 controller.

sir thank you for patiently answering all my questions!


if very minimal ang difference ng power consumption, I might go AMD, for better graphics or PQ.
am I right on that part?

[Stagea]

sir thank you for patiently answering all my questions!


if very minimal ang difference ng power consumption, I might go AMD, for better graphics or PQ.
am I right on that part?

You're welcome. Yes, it makes sense to go that route if you plan on using the IGP. The A6-3500 only costs a few hundred more than the A4-3400. It's probably worth the difference as you get an extra core and better graphics capability.

[thebat]

I am also using my laptop msi. Once na ako nag pa thermal paste. Napansin ko ngayon umiinit ulit overnight. Mukhang dapat desktop and setup.

[Stagea]

I am also using my laptop msi. Once na ako nag pa thermal paste. Napansin ko ngayon umiinit ulit overnight. Mukhang dapat desktop and setup.

Keep the vents open and the notebook elevated from the surface. Baka madumi na din yung heatsink or mabagal na yung fan motor.

Try adjusting the minimum power state under Processor Power Management / Advanced Power Settings in Power Options. Set it to 5% or lower.

[DTNS]

Try adjusting the minimum power state under Processor Power Management / Advanced Power Settings in Power Options. Set it to 5% or lower.

I do something similar when using my laptop as an htpc: when it's plugged into a tv or receiver via hdmi, and it's playing video, I change its power plan to Power Saver (lowest brightness setting).

[bashi]

i've been backreading about desktops etc, all your post has been enlightening to me, i'll be going for an amd set-up based on feedback from relatives, friends and forum threads, tiningnan ko more on power comsumption, taas na kasi electric bill namin, hahahaha

[bashi]

question, sa dami ng available power supply, ano yun suggestions ninyo na reliable brand and/or model?

[raptor]

question, sa dami ng available power supply, ano yun suggestions ninyo na reliable brand and/or model?

good brands are corsair, seasonic, antec, enermax, and hec ... look for models with 80%+ efficiency, normally those would have good components and better quality ... plus those would have less power consumption due to high efficiency