Author Topic: PBA Season 38 (Read 110372 times)

SiCkBoY · « **Reply #750 on:** May 21, 2013 at 08:50 AM »

Quote from: VenoM_Unleashed on May 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Tinanong nun commentator doon sa kasama nyang commentator, what happened daw to Ginebra in the 4th qrt, kasi lumaki na lamang ng Alaska, eh at the end of 3rd qrt lamang pa daw ng 1 pt BGK, ang sabi ni Jason Webb ata yun "it's a combination of a lot of things daw, blah, blah, blah, pero actually isa lang ang sagot dun "Urbiztondo". Walang sure ball, tapos nagkalat pa, dami ginawa kapalpakan. Sana binabad na lang si Tenorio, hindi na kailangan magpahinga do or die na yun eh.

No match talaga 'yun laban, sa tingin ko kahit TNT ang pumasok instead of BKG, ganoon din mangyayare, they will suffer the same fate as Ginebra, puro injured din kasi players nila.

Congrats Alaska!

I remember one coach yelling to his team during a time out, "Artadi is on our side, guys!" Take note, nasa opposing team si Artadi.

Ganun din si Urbiztondo haha!

puffalan84 · « **Reply #751 on:** May 21, 2013 at 08:57 AM »

^ Nice observation bro newwave, I remember when tanduay pulled out their team sa pba, I think it was their team manager who said pba is a pure smc league.. So now, its 6 from smc, and 2 from mvp.. ROS and Alaska na lng.. Maganda kung sila naglaban sa finals..

newwaveboy · « **Reply #752 on:** May 21, 2013 at 09:26 AM »

Quote from: puffalan84 on May 21, 2013 at 08:57 AM

^ Nice observation bro newwave, I remember when tanduay pulled out their team sa pba, I think it was their team manager who said pba is a pure smc league.. So now, its 6 from smc, and 2 from mvp.. ROS and Alaska na lng.. Maganda kung sila naglaban sa finals..

It was team owner Bong Tan himself who declared the PBA as an SMC-league.

People might now know this, but Tan commissioned a 3rd party observation on PBA officiating ...... it was done by officials from the GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS.

The officials concluded that the refs indeed favor SMC teams ...... imagine that, an NBA team no less.

Of course, Tan himself was no saint ...... seeing the unethical practices of SMC, he himself resorted to his own brand of under-the-table deals just to compete.

It went all downhill for him, when Alvarado was revealed as a Filsham ....... then the botched Ildefonso deal ...... finally to the double-contracts of Hawkins, etc.

With so much disgust, he traded his stars to SMC teams then folded his franchise.

the_w0rks · « **Reply #753 on:** May 21, 2013 at 09:36 AM »

yeah, quite obvious naman yung mga refs na yan. Yung mga halatang tawag na nasa harap na nila, minsan iniignore nila kahit kitang kita nila. nung nanuod ako last year ng TnT vs Bmeg, si Pingris ang daming mga obvious cheap shots/fouls pero di tinatawagan. haha

Nakakatuwa tingnan kasi ang lupit ni Pingris sumimple pero di natatawagan.

puffalan84 · « **Reply #754 on:** May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM »

^ nice, si pingris konting bangga ni abueva, reklamo na..

-sniper- · « **Reply #755 on:** May 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 20, 2013 at 09:30 PM

There are reports that Loverboy Eala is targeting ROS import Arizona Reid as their 3rd conference import ......

for which team? i think it would not be for Ginebra. as early as the first week (iirc) of this month, loverboy already had a statement that Ginebra's import for the third conference will be Dior Lowhorn, said to be a standout in the ABL.

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #756 on:** May 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM »

i saw the import of TNT two days ago in eastwood.. mukhang mareretain sya this coming season..

-sniper- · « **Reply #757 on:** May 21, 2013 at 01:08 PM »

Import Prospects Of Each Team

Alaska Aces: Wendell McKines (confirmed)

Barako Bull Energy Cola: Mike Singletary (confirmed)

Talk N Text Tropang Texters: Tony Mitchell (confirmed)

Sanmig Coffee Mixers: Marqus Blakely (confirmed)

Brgy. Ginebra San Miguel: Dior Lowhorn (confirmed)

Globalport Batang Pier: Jamelle Cornley (in negotiations)

Meralco Bolts: Mario West (in negotiations)

Petron Blaze Boosters: DJ Kennedy, Arizona Reid (contacting both imports, but if nothing happens they will bring Anthony Grundy back in the PBA)

Rain Or Shine Elasto Painters: Arizona Reid (in negotiations)

Air21 Express: Zach Graham, Chamberlain Oguchi (still in contact with both players)

newwaveboy · « **Reply #758 on:** May 21, 2013 at 03:56 PM »

ALASKA's new import is a scorer ....... definitely not in the mold of rebounding demons like Blakely, Reid & Cornley. They got a similar import a few years ago, LD Williams ..... didn't turn out so well.

Anthony Grundy will be a boost to PETRON - an import who does a lot of things very well ........ GPORT's Mark Yee will welcome Grundy with a one arm cavity search.

No love for Nate Brumfeld from any team?

-sniper- · « **Reply #759 on:** May 21, 2013 at 04:07 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 03:56 PM

No love for Nate Brumfeld from any team?

i heard there was one team scouting for him. the team, however, escapes my mind.

retro12195 · « **Reply #760 on:** May 21, 2013 at 04:15 PM »

grabe yong import ng ALASKA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkwuhA7trbE

the_w0rks · « **Reply #761 on:** May 21, 2013 at 04:38 PM »

sus. wala bang Chris King o Leon Trimmingham jan? hahaha! pasensiya na, simula nung nadisband yung Ginebra nila Bal David, Jawo, The Flying Tank and Aquino, di na ako nakasubaybay gaano sa PBA. Ngayon lang ulit nagkainterest.

Yung mga naaalala ko nun sila Lamont Strothers, Sean Chambers, Bobby Parks, Tony Harris, Silas Mills. haha

VenoM_Unleashed · « **Reply #762 on:** May 21, 2013 at 05:04 PM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on May 20, 2013 at 04:55 PM

yan yung sinasabi ni sir newaveboy about urbiztondo a few pages back kaya nag tataka sya bakit kinuha pa ng BGK, sablay ang decision making at di marunong mag orchestrate ng play ang hilig pumukol sa 3 kahit di naman shooter.

Na observe na pala 'yun ni Sir newaveboy. Yung din ang nasa isip ko noong PBA Finals. Saktong-sakto, tumbok na tumbok ni Sir newaveboy

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #763 on:** May 21, 2013 at 05:33 PM »

Quote from: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 01:08 PM

Import Prospects Of Each Team

Alaska Aces: Wendell McKines (confirmed)

Barako Bull Energy Cola: Mike Singletary (confirmed)

Talk N Text Tropang Texters: Tony Mitchell (confirmed)

Sanmig Coffee Mixers: Marqus Blakely (confirmed)

Brgy. Ginebra San Miguel: Dior Lowhorn (confirmed)

Globalport Batang Pier: Jamelle Cornley (in negotiations)

Meralco Bolts: Mario West (in negotiations)

Petron Blaze Boosters: DJ Kennedy, Arizona Reid (contacting both imports, but if nothing happens they will bring Anthony Grundy back in the PBA)

Rain Or Shine Elasto Painters: Arizona Reid (in negotiations)

Air21 Express: Zach Graham, Chamberlain Oguchi (still in contact with both players)

just wondering ano nangyari dun sa import dati ng Alaska si Devon Davis ba yun bakit di na naglaro ulit at si Rossel Ellis?

iammarcotoo · « **Reply #764 on:** May 21, 2013 at 05:38 PM »

About Urbiztondo: he was actually playing well before he got traded..he played well for B-Meg (starter) and for Barako too..
Problem kay Urbiztondo is he is a "system" type of PG...hindi sya marunong mshado magadapt...and playing lesser minutes for GSM compared to his former team made it worse...
So i kind of disagree that he is a "bad" player but i agree the trade for him was a head-scratcher

newwaveboy · « **Reply #765 on:** May 21, 2013 at 06:11 PM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on May 21, 2013 at 05:33 PM

just wondering ano nangyari dun sa import dati ng Alaska si Devon Davis ba yun bakit di na naglaro ulit at si Rossel Ellis?

Rossel Ellis suddenly got old during his last stint in the PBA ....... during his heyday, Ellis was fun to watch.

The man had a nose for the ball and relied on his work ethic, since he was limited offensively.

Tim Cone has been quoted many times that Ellis is one of his favorite imports, along with Chambers, Davis, etc.

brainwashed · « **Reply #766 on:** May 21, 2013 at 06:42 PM »

Quote from: iammarcotoo on May 21, 2013 at 05:38 PM

About Urbiztondo: he was actually playing well before he got traded..he played well for B-Meg (starter) and for Barako too..
Problem kay Urbiztondo is he is a "system" type of PG...hindi sya marunong mshado magadapt...and playing lesser minutes for GSM compared to his former team made it worse...
So i kind of disagree that he is a "bad" player but i agree the trade for him was a head-scratcher

If the basis for playing well is merely scoring in double digits by making some 3-point shots despite the low field goal percentage, then Urbiztondo was definitely playing well before he got traded to Ginebra. The problem with Urbiztondo is not that he is a "system" type of PG nor that he doesn't adapt that well, the problem with Urbiztondo is that the only thing he knows is to shoot but he does not do it well.

iammarcotoo · « **Reply #767 on:** May 21, 2013 at 06:59 PM »

Hi Sir...checked the stats..he is not the most efficient player as he shoots below 40% from the field..but he averaged almost 11 pts and 5 assists per game..for a role player..i can say that is kinda playing well before the trade

If you compare him to Tenorio..LA is +2 in ppg..almost the same in assists and turnovers..and shoots worse than Urbiztondo...

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #768 on:** May 21, 2013 at 07:25 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 21, 2013 at 06:11 PM

Rossel Ellis suddenly got old during his last stint in the PBA ....... during his heyday, Ellis was fun to watch.

The man had a nose for the ball and relied on his work ethic, since he was limited offensively.

Tim Cone has been quoted many times that Ellis is one of his favorite imports, along with Chambers, Davis, etc.

thanks sir newave, i got to talk to ellis in person and he is one of the nicest i met, very down to earth and humble and thats after the championship he had with Alaska, havent heard from him since then.

-sniper- · « **Reply #769 on:** May 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM »

Quote from: brainwashed on May 21, 2013 at 06:42 PM

the problem with Urbiztondo is that the only thing he knows is to shoot but he does not do it well.

no offense meant, sir. but allow me to modify your post and say that "the problem with urbiztondo is that the only thing he know is to THROW the ball but he does not shoot well.

Quote from: iammarcotoo on May 21, 2013 at 06:59 PM

Hi Sir...checked the stats..he is not the most efficient player as he shoots below 40% from the field..but he averaged almost 11 pts and 5 assists per game..for a role player..i can say that is kinda playing well before the trade

If you compare him to Tenorio..LA is +2 in ppg..almost the same in assists and turnovers..and shoots worse than Urbiztondo...

11 points average. that's roughly three 3 point shots and a field goal every game---in short, four attempts. Urbiztondo takes more attempts than that. waaayyyyy more than that. the average points made does not make one an efficient player. a scorer perhaps. but not efficient. and a 40% shooting clip is definitely not efficient. PLUS he is not a play maker, he has no other moves (except to shoot from beyond the arc), he does not know how to pass well, he does not make his teammates involved in the plays.

iammarcotoo · « **Reply #770 on:** May 22, 2013 at 12:03 AM »

Quote from: -sniper- on May 21, 2013 at 11:34 PM

no offense meant, sir. but allow me to modify your post and say that "the problem with urbiztondo is that the only thing he know is to THROW the ball but he does not shoot well.

11 points average. that's roughly three 3 point shots and a field goal every game---in short, four attempts. Urbiztondo takes more attempts than that. waaayyyyy more than that. the average points made does not make one an efficient player. a scorer perhaps. but not efficient. and a 40% shooting clip is definitely not efficient. PLUS he is not a play maker, he has no other moves (except to shoot from beyond the arc), he does not know how to pass well, he does not make his teammates involved in the plays.

Haha ok lng sir..mganda pagdebatehan tlaga sports..healthy naman...anyway...all i'm saying is he played "well" in Barako. I'm not saying he is efficient..as i have mentioned in my post...But for a role player, those are decent stats...he is a shoot first PG...but to say he doesnt pass well is kind of unfair to say since he averaged almost 5 assists per game. League leader last conf was at 6.xx apg. And comparing him to an elite PG like Tenorio last conf, their stats (ppg,apg,fg%,to) are almost the same..the big difference is that Tenorio is a better leader which is kind of expected of him since he is a superstar in the league..while Urbiztondo is not..

-sniper- · « **Reply #771 on:** May 22, 2013 at 01:31 AM »

Quote from: iammarcotoo on May 22, 2013 at 12:03 AM

he is a shoot first PG

he is more of a catch-and-shoot ~~point~~guard.......pagka-tanggap ng bola, tira agad.

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here is the format for the 3rd conference:

PBA Govs Cup Aug 14, single-round elims then last
2 out; top 4 2x-to-beat edge over next 4, winners
in best-of-5 semis then best-of-7 finals

newwaveboy · « **Reply #772 on:** May 22, 2013 at 09:58 AM »

To think that BGK had Mike Cortez in their lineup just a conference ago ....... now, all they have to backup LA is effin' Urbiztondo & Labagala.

This is what separates the "legit" champion teams of ALASKA & ROS versus the fantasy-trade teams of Loverboy Eala ...... GM's like Trillo & Jao know the kind of players they"ll need to build a contender from the ground up - all along, they play within the salary cap rules of the league.

On the flip side, Loverboy Eala is like a kid who was left alone in the kitchen ...... he will eat & get all that he can without thinking of the consequences.

Eala has been given unlimited funds & he doesn't even follow salary cap rules. He even has 3 farm teams to supply his 3 main teams with draft picks and bluechip players with.

And to top it all off, Eala has no basketball background whatsoever, other than being a commentator ...... Eala is clear proof that gift of gab can get you places here in Da Pilipins.

-sniper- · « **Reply #773 on:** May 22, 2013 at 01:46 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 22, 2013 at 09:58 AM

To think that BGK had Mike Cortez in their lineup just a conference ago ....... now, all they have to backup LA is effin' Urbiztondo & Labagala.

exactly. they traded mike cortez because, according to them, they were loaded with guards. then, they acquired urbiztondo. the worst part is they let go of keith jensen AND a 2nd round draft pick! as i've said, the trade was very lopsided, with ginebra getting the raw end of the deal. i am of the view that urbiztondo does not carry such a high price tag.

-sniper- · « **Reply #774 on:** May 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM »

http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/one-for-the-road-for-ginebra-who-installed-edsa-tribute-to-chua-and-why-its-no-longer-there

frootloops · « **Reply #775 on:** May 22, 2013 at 11:43 PM »

^ so private pala may ari at pwede ang paid ad sa gilid? pwes...matindi ang may ari nito, hindi na sa gilid gilid ng Edsa ang ad...ngayon sa GITNA na!

Dsitracting pa yan lalo na sa gabi..ang lakas ng ilaw.

newwaveboy · « **Reply #776 on:** May 25, 2013 at 08:10 PM »

Here we go again ..... another impending Loverboy Eala fantasy trade.

Eala trying to revive their trade proposal ...... BGK's Yousef Taha, Elmer Espiritu & Rob Labagala for GLOBAL PORT's Japeth Aguilar & Willie Miller.

Three (3) benchwarmers for a National Team member & a still serviceable starting SG ..... fair na fair, right Comm Salud ??

Eala claims that BGK needs bigs, after being manhandled by ALASKA's Thoss ...... well it proves my point once more, about Eala's limited knowledge about the sport.

Having a tall player doesn't guarantee you a center ...... Aguilar is near 7-feet, but he plays like a SF - a position which BGK has in abundance - heck, they got rid of Canaleta, Maliksi, Jensen, etc since they're already loaded with Ellis, Espiritu, Wilson, Ababou, Baracael, Hatfield, Maierhofer, etc sharing limited minutes.

puffalan84 · « **Reply #777 on:** May 25, 2013 at 08:55 PM »

^ Maybe they want japeth to play d, protecting the rim ala hibbert..

-sniper- · « **Reply #778 on:** May 25, 2013 at 11:48 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on May 25, 2013 at 08:10 PM

Eala trying to revive their trade proposal ...... BGK's Yousef Taha, Elmer Espiritu & Rob Labagala for GLOBAL PORT's Japeth Aguilar & Willie Miller.

i really don't understand eala's craving for aguilar. yes, he is tall. but that's all he has. look at where aguilar brought globalport? on the top of the standings.....IF you count the losses. also, if ever ginebra trades a small, they should trade urbiztondo instead. i would prefer labagala over urbiztondo.

vinci · « **Reply #779 on:** May 26, 2013 at 12:35 AM »

as alaska fan. bring it on eala. hehehe. grabe kahit simpleng fan nakikita na ano mali. pero banat pa rin. bat kaya yung higher management e hinahayaan din lang? di rin ba nila nakikita?