Author Topic: Bose Speakers (Read 197882 times)

X-®an™ · « **Reply #180 on:** Jul 21, 2004 at 03:55 PM »

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:51 PM

HOW TO MAKE A BOSE SOUND BETTER

THIS REALLY WORKS BASED ON GOOD RESEARCH!

1.) Strip the end of an power cord.

2.) Connect the stripped end to the terminals of your favorite Bose speaker. Make sure the stripped ends don't touch.

3.) Find a convenient power outlet. Turn off the circuit breaker to that outlet.

4.) Plug the power cord in. Stay off in a good distance.

5.) Turn on the circuit breaker.

6.) Watch the bad smoke escape out of the Bose.

7.) Now go get a Real Speaker.

8.) CONGRATULATIONS! Now you achieved Better Sound through Research!!!!!.

Consult a good electrician if you are a bit unsure with the above procedure

If unsure about Steps 1-6... replace it with these two steps:

1. Contact X-Ran (me)
2. Donate your Bose speakers to him (thanks!) - di ko tatanggihan yan

rmpmla · « **Reply #181 on:** Jul 21, 2004 at 05:56 PM »

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 21, 2004 at 01:51 PM

HOW TO MAKE A BOSE SOUND BETTER

THIS REALLY WORKS BASED ON GOOD RESEARCH!

1.) Strip the end of an power cord.

2.) Connect the stripped end to the terminals of your favorite Bose speaker. Make sure the stripped ends don't touch.

3.) Find a convenient power outlet. Turn off the circuit breaker to that outlet.

4.) Plug the power cord in. Stay off in a good distance.

5.) Turn on the circuit breaker.

6.) Watch the bad smoke escape out of the Bose.

7.) Now go get a Real Speaker.

8.) CONGRATULATIONS! Now you achieved Better Sound through Research!!!!!.

Consult a good electrician if you are a bit unsure with the above procedure

not applicable to BOSE 901

http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=319897&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1

andaleon · « **Reply #182 on:** Jul 21, 2004 at 07:23 PM »

X-Man's solution is called:

"Better sound through donation". That should work too!

For the 901, you need an 20- Amp breaker , not the 15-Amp variety.

I liked Bose. I too was a victim. I did not know better then.

rmpmla · « **Reply #183 on:** Jul 21, 2004 at 08:06 PM »

For the 901, you need an 20- Amp breaker , not the 15-Amp variety.

so the 901 can handle more than 4,000 watts of 60 hz test tone with a constant 120 or 220 volts AC. NOT bad

. can you do this on your Real Speakers ?

andaleon · « **Reply #184 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 03:41 AM »

so the 901 can handle more than 4,000 watts of 60 hz test tone with a constant 120 or 220 volts AC.

NOT bad

rmpmla,

Why don't you try it?

The results will astnonish you!

I did on my 901. And man-- I am thankful I did!

rmpmla · « **Reply #185 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 06:58 AM »

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 22, 2004 at 03:41 AM

so the 901 can handle more than 4,000 watts of 60 hz test tone with a constant 120 or 220 volts AC.

NOT bad

rmpmla,

Why don't you try it?

The results will astnonish you!

I did on my 901. And man-- I am thankful I did!

the result was already posted above, so no need for me to try.

but your real speaker is not. hope to see the result on your next post.

andaleon · « **Reply #186 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 11:25 AM »

You treat a piece of art differently from how you treat garbage.

rmpmla · « **Reply #187 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 04:09 PM »

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 22, 2004 at 11:25 AM

You treat a piece of art differently from how you treat garbage.

or is it your real speakers cannot even pass the steps you mentioned but a BOSE 901 can.

you better enjoy looking at your piece art while i enjoy listening to MY set up

andaleon · « **Reply #188 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 08:10 PM »

Good, it's an acquired taste.

People do have the predilection for things rubbish.

And it's not about price, because Hose isn't cheap.

rmpmla · « **Reply #189 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 09:35 PM »

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 22, 2004 at 08:10 PM

Good, it's an acquired taste.

go on continue looking at your pc. of art while i enjoy listening to my set up. of course, we are talking of speakers here.

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 22, 2004 at 08:10 PM

People do have the predilection for things rubbish.

you never can tell. maybe you will say the same thing with your real speakers 20 years from now.

Quote from: andaleon on Jul 22, 2004 at 08:10 PM

And it's not about price, because Hose isn't cheap.

sorry for those who bought bose speakers at steep price. i bought my 401 and 901 ( pre owned ) under $200 total.

andaleon · « **Reply #190 on:** Jul 22, 2004 at 11:59 PM »

I'm glad your speakers meet your spectations.

Mine cannot handle 4000w at 60 Hz but my expectations are of course different and beyond 60Hz @ 4000w. Hose 901 has got me beat on that one!

.

Yes, I like looking at these pieces of art.

I like them more when they start singing!

rmpmla · « **Reply #191 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 06:32 AM »

you have started this wall outlet test for HOSE. and yet you overlooked that your set up would not even pass it.

some people wll only be satisfied with megabuck set up while others will prefer an el cheapo transistor radio and still be satisfied.

I admire people who respect other people's choices or prefrences.

andaleon · « **Reply #192 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 11:17 AM »

I wouldn't admire your preference for speakers but I'll just leave you alone with it.

Hey, you are listening to it.

I would admire your vehement defense however.

rmpmla · « **Reply #193 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 08:32 PM »

you missed the word RESPECT . once this is gone, arrogance sets in.

andaleon · « **Reply #194 on:** Jul 23, 2004 at 10:01 PM »

You just don't get it, do you?

That circuit breaker experiment has been a long time-running joke.

It surely is not my original. It is merely a cut-and-paste of some other Bose-Bashing posts. Bose-bashing is a popular sport among audio circles.

It is a spoof of their marketing slogan

"Better sound through research"

A lot of people are misinformed and have been ripped off by how much Bose is asking for such a worthless speakers.

(Granted you bought yours at much less that retail. Congratulations!)

It is meant to address and educate that Bose is not that it is all advertised to be.

But in your case...........

"YOU JUST CAN'T TEACH A PIG HOW TO SING!

IT ANNOYS THE PIG AND IT WASTES YOU TIME."

Bye, I have wasted enough time with you!

rmpmla · « **Reply #195 on:** Jul 24, 2004 at 06:31 AM »

imbis na bose user ang mainis yung bose basher ang nainis.
end of joke.

bro lighten up, it's just a joke.

fish tayo

bayonic · « **Reply #196 on:** Jul 24, 2004 at 07:33 AM »

hi,

just a suggestion :

instead of subjecting bose speakers to the " AC outlet test " when you are replacing them with another set of speakers , why not donate it to a good,respectable audio store in the philippines ?
that way pag may mga newbies kagaya ko na magtatanong kung anong magandang speakers or kung totoo bang yung mga nababasa sa internet about bose , we can actually have the chance to do a side by side comparison.

i've read that the side by side comparison is something that Bose does not encourage or even allow ...

said speakers can also be displayed on various audio fairs / exhibitions .

i am not sure if there are legal obstacles to hurdle though

just a suggestion

mattmatt · « **Reply #197 on:** Jul 24, 2004 at 08:26 AM »

Quote from: maximusmeridius on Apr 07, 2002 at 12:18 PM

In my opinion, BOSE is more of a MARKETING COMPANY than a SPEAKER manufacturer!!!!!

I second the motion...magaling sa marketing..but if you think and look deeper walang laman...

av_phile1 · « **Reply #198 on:** Jul 26, 2004 at 11:41 AM »

I've seen and heard Bose-like cubes from Dai-1chi, Audiofile, Xenon, Konzert, Kingfisher, to mention a few. Whenever I am at SM and its appliance affiliate, I usually linger around a demo of such items being shown to some customers. And they sound respectable in HT. Good value for less than 5T for a complete HT speaker package with powered woofers. They sound so much like Bose satellites.

And Bose cubes do sound respectable enough.

But not at their prices. At their prices, when you know what's inside them, they begin to sound contemptible.

bruquee · « **Reply #199 on:** Jul 30, 2004 at 08:26 PM »

not all bose products sound awful. have heard some products over the years that have passable sound quality. however, all bose products are ridiculously overpriced. for the prices they charge, one can get speakers that perform much better. take the bose 901. they cost around $1500 list. for that kind of money, i could buy a pair of b&w 705 speakers or a pair of the revel m20 speakers or a pair of the definitive powermonitor 700 s. and any of these speakers will blow the doors off the 901.

i also use a pair of acoustic energy aego two sub/satellite speakers for a kitchen audio system. they only cost me a little over $200 (bought them directly from the us distributor on ebay). and they sound way better than the bose acoustimass ripoffs that cost several times more.

lazeeb0y · « **Reply #200 on:** Jul 31, 2004 at 08:50 AM »

301's sound great on my current HT setup. but i admit it's too expensive for the price that i bought it. if i had known better then, i would've gotten an all polkaudio speaker setup.

no regrets, though. just charged it to experience(and unfortunately, my mastercard too!).

AudioAmp · « **Reply #201 on:** Aug 04, 2004 at 10:50 AM »

There have been a lotof negative things written and said about bose but i personally think speaker preferences are subjective. I know a couple (only two ok) people who swear that bose are the best sounding speakers.

Objectively thought there are other brands that have better - 1) materials (boses uses paper cones i think) 2) workmanship; which translates to better value for money. All we are saying is, for the same amount you can get a better pair of speakers than bose.

Ultimately, listen listen and listen. Let your ears decide.

BTW - i agree bose is ONE HELL of a marketing company. Hats off to them

av_phile1 · « **Reply #202 on:** Aug 04, 2004 at 12:42 PM »

Speaker performance may be subjective but there are things like pricing, craftmanship, materials, design and laboratory measurements that belong in the realm of objective science. And if common observation fails to confirm these things as being reasonable for the sale price being demanded by the manufacturer, then you won't hear the end of it from knowledgeable experts and consumers whose only bjective, rightly or wrongly, is to try their level best to inform so that the consumers get the proper value of any commodity they have paid for in the context of what the competition has to offer.

JT · « **Reply #203 on:** Feb 22, 2005 at 04:19 PM »

Not sure whether you've read this already ...

http://www.perrymarshall.com/marketing/bose.htm

aHobbit · « **Reply #204 on:** Feb 22, 2005 at 05:09 PM »

Quote from: JT on Feb 22, 2005 at 04:19 PM

Not sure whether you've read this already ...

http://www.perrymarshall.com/marketing/bose.htm

I envy BOSE!

As always, it is the WAF -Wife acceptance factor!

I think BOSE is not alone - what about speaker cable company like monster?

The WILL-BUY-WHAT-I-WANT buyer from WILL-SELL-WHAT-YOU-WANT seller economics !

Hey, me and my audiophile friends do not look for speaker with flat response! We look for speakers with listenable musical sounds!

av_phile1 · « **Reply #205 on:** Feb 22, 2005 at 06:19 PM »

Putting it more bluntly and barbarically, a marketing guru said that Marketing is the Art of creating market demand for Garbage. I agree. If you can sell garbage, you can sell anything. Great products often sell by themsevles, by word of mouth. But it takes great marketing savvy and brillance to creat market demand for a product that's garbage.

Nope. I disagree with that article quoted above.

Bose is not successful because it has created a product the customer wants. It is sucessful because it successfully caters to the ignorance and misinformed values of the customer. Its manipulative advertising claims, giving dubious engineering breakthroughs that no self-respecting audio engineer recognizes, further fan the interest of such ignorance. It is indeed unfortunate that the audio industry is not fully regulated as it should. The only government agency that does some form of regulating is the FTC in the US. But even that is confined to power rating of amplifiers on a limited scale that many HT receivers easily thwart. None in speakers. Certainly none in cables (that's another unregulated industry full of BS hypes and snake oils that pander to the ignorance of many.)

Forums such as audioholics.com have been established to unmask such deceptions, to reveal the truth behind the products foisted in the industry. In a way I hope PinoyDVD does the same for local audiophiles.

Chito C. · « **Reply #206 on:** Feb 22, 2005 at 06:27 PM »

My brother gave me his bose accoustimass 3 about 2 years ago since he upgraded his surrounds to mission speakers. I wasn't into pinoydvd then and just dreamt of having those cute 5.1 cubed speakers being sold at the appliance centers. My previous ht set-up was a nextabse dvd player connected to my sony mini-component with matching stands for my big bookshelf speakers. This was what I was looking for since my wife was expecting our first born and was afraid that our kid would have an accident with the bookshelf speaker when he grows up. As expected from a newbie, I was very happy with the bose setup (using the sony mini-compo as my amp)thinking how could 2 cubed speakers could sound so loud and good. About a month or two after that, I connected my sony speakers with my old pioneer mini compo and started listening to my cd's, I then noticed that after the initial awe of having the bose, the sony bookshelfs are even better. Tried to switch back to my old set-up but wifey liked the bose set-up better mainly due to the limited space in our room. Just sharing my experience with bose.

RU9 · « **Reply #207 on:** Feb 23, 2005 at 07:39 AM »

Review of BOSE 301:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue17/bose301.htm

av_phile1 · « **Reply #208 on:** Feb 23, 2005 at 10:02 AM »

Quote from: RU9 on Feb 23, 2005 at 07:39 AM

Review of BOSE 301:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue17/bose301.htm

Excellent writing specimen of saying YES when you actually mean NO.

The author refers to it as "backhanded" compliments for BOSE. OThers might refer to it as sarcasm. I particularly like the way the Bose reminded him of early black and white Playboy magz. It titilates, but falls short of fidelity.

5Speed · « **Reply #209 on:** Feb 23, 2005 at 11:48 AM »

I like Bose (acoustimass series) for their looks, but never for their sound quality. A friend of mine way back in the early 90's use to brag about his Bose speakers (AM-5 ?? I already forgot the model) saying it is the best sounding audio gear hes ever have....I was quite excited at that time in hearing one of those out of its showroom and requested an audition on his place...after listening so some of his cd's mainly jazz, rock, and pop music...I was not impressed at all, true it looks gorgeous and smart looking...

After a while I ask him if its okay with him if I bring our old Pioneer Integrated Amp and its two big 3-way speakers to his house just to compare with his Bose, since I've told him that we want to upgrade our old Pioneers to a newer stereo gear provided that the newer one should sound much better... He happily obliged telling me that in no time we will be hurrying to buy a Bose acoustimass system.. I brought my older brother with me, since it is him who bought that Pioneer way back in 1981.. we use my friends cd player w/c at that time was a mid price sony player....

Our pioneer stays with us until early 2001, (20 yrs of service!!) even though we already acquired a Denon and a Roger set of speakers in 97.... My friend, after that audio showdown stop bragging about his Bose, and buy himself a Pioneer AVR and an Infinity speakers in 95, after being so happy with his Bose for few months and hating it for almost 2 yrs after hearing our old and heavy pioneer.....hehehehe The time when he invited me to hear his pioneer/infinity setup, he told me that after we left with our gears that night, he want to swap his bose to our old pioneers, he told me that he felt sorry that he spend a fortune to buy those things while at that price he can even buy a Sansui integrated amp with a matching JBL speakers with some more money to spare.....hahahaha I've told him no way...we loved that one since it is my brother's very first audio acquisition with his own money.... and we miss that hefty pioneer, a very simple good sounding amp, no dsp, no tantalizing leds that flickers through a dim litted nights, no gimmicks, just a pure stereo sounding amp that will accompany us on those sleepless nights where playing music is our only companion, to relax and appreciate those talented artist who produce a good piece....

just my share..... peace...