Author Topic: Wharfedale Dentons . . . a brief review (Read 73681 times)

disturbed · « **Reply #120 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 12:49 PM »

Quote from: Gino on Sep 09, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I use an artist product from National Bookstore. It is for tacking. Parang strips of bubble gum. Holds in place but can be removed easily.

thanks sir Gino for the reply..I will check later sa national.

deist · « **Reply #121 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 12:52 PM »

Quote from: disturbed on Sep 09, 2013 at 12:21 PM

anyway..what is the finish of the denton? it's not glossy kasi..it's like soft matte or something..do you guys know?

to sir deist and other who has sir joma's stand creations for dentons..when you place the speakers on the stands, do you put something that prohibits na speakers from sliding? or diretso patong lang?

bro, AFAIK the finish is mahogany wood veneer. talagang matte ang finish. for the speakers not to slide on the stands; I use Bostik Blu-Tack. reference pic below:

disturbed · « **Reply #122 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 12:57 PM »

^ yown! thanks very much..I have blu-tack sa bahay..parang ayaw ko kasi dikitan ung speaker hehe.

sarap kasi himasin sir nung finish hahaha!

deist · « **Reply #123 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 01:01 PM »

Quote from: disturbed on Sep 09, 2013 at 12:57 PM

^ yown! thanks very much..I have blu-tack sa bahay..parang ayaw ko kasi dikitan ung speaker hehe.

sarap kasi himasin sir nung finish hahaha!

hahaha I agree, durog yung mga mas mahal na speakers sa finish nito, ganda ng pagka-wrap around ng veneers. blu-tack is safe naman, basta pag iaangat mo yung speakers from the stands pa-twist ang motion & hindi pa-hila, for added caution

disturbed · « **Reply #124 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 01:06 PM »

^ thanks again sir for the tip sa blu-tack..

parang gusto ko tuloy lahat ng wood sa bahay ganito finish

hopefully I can fire them up this week..got my amp yesterday..problem lang ala pa akong source hahaha

Superman · « **Reply #125 on:** Sep 09, 2013 at 01:37 PM »

Blu-Tack

theblue · « **Reply #126 on:** Sep 11, 2013 at 06:14 AM »

Sana magkaron ng mini eb for Denton. I'd like to hear how it sings. Sobrang curious na ako. Hahaha.

disturbed · « **Reply #127 on:** Sep 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM »

just want to post a pic of my denton

I just tested it last night, since I don't have any proper source, I used my mp3 player/dock > line out > amp to hear them sing..went through some tracks and right away I noticed that it excels on acoustic, orchestra,pop/rnb..but not on my rock collections..it's like the bass was on top of the mids..I like details,mids and punchy bass..I am using an iem fischer audio dba-02 mkII and can't help comparing them..anyway before I post some other impressions I need to put them in proper position since I don't have any speaker stands..they were on top of the rack and close together..I will update this thread again once I complete my setup..anyway that is just my initial impressions..need to get stands asap and hopefully my proper source arrives in 2 weeks..

Hammerheart · « **Reply #128 on:** Sep 14, 2013 at 02:30 PM »

Ala pa daw sa Spectra, my friend will get his sa SG, gusto ko sumabay ng 1 pair pa. Mukhang malabo na mgkaron uli dito sa tin.

Hammerheart · « **Reply #129 on:** Sep 14, 2013 at 03:00 PM »

Quote from: disturbed on Sep 14, 2013 at 12:15 PM

I just tested it last night, since I don't have any proper source, I used my mp3 player/dock > line out > amp to hear them sing..went through some tracks and right away I noticed that it excels on acoustic, orchestra,pop/rnb..but not on my rock collections..it's like the bass was on top of the mids..I like details,mids and punchy bass..I am using an iem fischer audio dba-02 mkII and can't help comparing them..anyway before I post some other impressions I need to put them in proper position since I don't have any speaker stands..they were on top of the rack and close together..I will update this thread again once I complete my setup..anyway that is just my initial impressions..need to get stands asap and hopefully my proper source arrives in 2 weeks..

I'm using my dentons with death/thrash metal music, maganda naman but not exceptional. Wag lang masyado malakas 100 watter lang dentons. With my rotel pre/power well defined yung intruments, di binabaon ng bass yung mid, i am using a tannoy ts10 sub kasi pag rock/metal bitin bass nya.

disturbed · « **Reply #130 on:** Sep 14, 2013 at 05:48 PM »

^ thanks for the comments sir..when I heard the bass on some tracks on the Denton's I was already satisfied with the lows..I can't wait for my other gears to arrive..so I can give it a proper listen..and I think I need a chair..wala kasi ako chair sa apt hehe..umupo lng ako sa floor or nakatayo..nag uumpisa pa lang kasi ako hehe

disturbed · « **Reply #131 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM »

^ I think I really have a bad listening area..since I don't have a stand yet I placed the left on the avrack and the right on my plastic cabinet both 2 ft in height..the distance from the side of the speaker to the wall is 1 ft and from the back it is 2 ft..I don't have any carpets, the floor is tiled then all concrete since I am renting in a building..the bass is somewhat boomy on some tracks and uncontrolled..sometimes I am not sure when I hear vocals if its airy or boundaring echoey..the bass is not overlapping on the midrange now compared to my first listening impression..

any suggestions?..I'll create another thread or update my old one so I can ask guys for help regarding this..

my digital pre-amp/dac just arrived and I will use my laptop muna as source habang wala pa magamit..lets see if mag improve compared sa gamit kong mp3 player as source hehe..sorry for hijacking this thread..

deist · « **Reply #132 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:03 AM »

^ what are you using as isolation under your speakers? i would suggest stands or at least isolation pads like auralex.

disturbed · « **Reply #133 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:08 AM »

^ wala sir deist pinatong ko lang sa av rack and sa plastic cabinet..wala pa ako stands kasi..

Gino · « **Reply #134 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM »

Floor plan and room dimensions pls. Include height and window locations. Add special considerations for layout. Bali things you arent allowed to do.

deist · « **Reply #135 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:18 AM »

^ sa situation mo ngayon sir marami pang variables: proper source, your DAC needs some burn-in time (the Dentons too!), isolation of your speakers, listening room size & treatment, we can't easily pinpoint which is causing the unpleasant sound. For me, i would start with proper source & stands

disturbed · « **Reply #136 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM »

@ sir Gino, I will update my old setting up thread para dito so I won't derail the Denton thread..I can probably get help agad doon..I have the layout already..upload ko na lang mmaya sa bahay pag uwi hehe..thanks!

@sir deist..yes sir stands and proper source muna since kelangan ko talaga..I might as well look for a decent carpet since cacarpet ko din area na yun..thanks again!

Gino · « **Reply #137 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:39 AM »

You can set up your room with "improper" source. You will tune for good tonal balance. Details and image precision you can fine tune later. At the moment critical factors are speaker height and placent. Listener's sitting height and location. If you can mimmic speaker stands without buying, then you can have customs made with exact height you need. be creative. Or buy cheap stand muna then dagdag bawas with books. Measure twice cut once. See you at your setup thread.

jay john · « **Reply #138 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM »

Quote from: disturbed on Sep 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

^ I think I really have a bad listening area..since I don't have a stand yet I placed the left on the avrack and the right on my plastic cabinet both 2 ft in height..the distance from the side of the speaker to the wall is 1 ft and from the back it is 2 ft..I don't have any carpets, the floor is tiled then all concrete since I am renting in a building..the bass is somewhat boomy on some tracks and uncontrolled..sometimes I am not sure when I hear vocals if its airy or boundaring echoey..the bass is not overlapping on the midrange now compared to my first listening impression..

any suggestions?..I'll create another thread or update my old one so I can ask guys for help regarding this..

i had the same experience with the dentons , try turning off the loudness function of your amp. it worked for me.

disturbed · « **Reply #139 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 12:22 PM »

@sir jay
ayun, another term I was thinking, it's really resonating on some other tracks but not all..It's like I can feel it clinging to the walls..my amp is just a simple power amp lang sir volume control is all you have hehe..it has no loudness function like integrated amps we have at the province..

disturbed · « **Reply #140 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM »

Quote from: Gino on Sep 16, 2013 at 11:39 AM

You can set up your room with "improper" source. You will tune for good tonal balance. Details and image precision you can fine tune later. At the moment critical factors are speaker height and placent. Listener's sitting height and location. If you can mimmic speaker stands without buying, then you can have customs made with exact height you need. be creative. Or buy cheap stand muna then dagdag bawas with books. Measure twice cut once. See you at your setup thread.

ah yes for the meantime I used the avrack and plastic cabinet as stands for the speakers since they have the same height..thanks sir..I'll post it later.

Hammerheart · « **Reply #141 on:** Sep 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM »

Loudness on vintage amps are only used on very low listening volumes, i.e. late night listening. Everything bloats when you use that button on normal listening levels.

muypogi · « **Reply #142 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 07:27 PM »

Quote from: disturbed on Sep 16, 2013 at 12:24 PM

ah yes for the meantime I used the avrack and plastic cabinet as stands for the speakers since they have the same height..thanks sir..I'll post it later.

You have sub-optimal placement of speakers. For bookshelves, you should have them clear of walls, and tweeters at ear-level height, otherwise the speakers will boom and will not have proper imaging. Moving you speakers closer to the wall acts more like a tone control, where bass will be reinforced, which may or may not be to your liking.

I suggest reserving judgement on any speaker until you can place them properly. Otherwise, adding a nice source will not add much to the presentation.

Try mo to place the speakers and your listening position in a inverted equilateral triangle, with your listening position as the apex. Try to have the speakers at the same distance between the right and left walls of the room (as well as the back) and experiment with the width between speakers. Spaced properly, Dentons should "disappear" in terms of imaging.

disturbed · « **Reply #143 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 08:05 PM »

^ thanks for the comments sir muypogi..

I have the speakers 1 ft off the wall at the side and 2 ft off the wall at the back since I am thinking that moving it away from the wall is always good.. but what I did last night is moved it back to 1 ft..so its 1ft sa side and back..the resonating lows diminished not sure by how much but I heard the difference on the fly..

yes will reserve any judgement on the speakers since there are a lot of factors involve..sorry to have post some not so good impressions that is misleading and do not really say anything about the charateristics of the speaker..hopefully tomorrow I will be able to put up my thread..hope you can chime in with your opinions..

I will still use my av rack and plastic cabinet which are 2 ft in ht so I can continue with some experiments..matatagalan pa speaker stands..thanks again

Nelson de Leon · « **Reply #144 on:** Sep 17, 2013 at 09:34 PM »

Quote from: Denton on Sep 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Loudness on vintage amps are only used on very low listening volumes, i.e. late night listening. Everything bloats when you use that button on normal listening levels.

Dynamic volume.

Gino · « **Reply #145 on:** Sep 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM »

Never appologize for your impressions. Setting up a speaker is part of the experience. Your impressions, as long as qualified with pertinent details, will help someone in the future. Impressions are personal and are never wrong.

metropharm · « **Reply #146 on:** Oct 02, 2013 at 10:45 PM »

Sna friday n para mkapag audio marathon n din with denton

Hammerheart · « **Reply #147 on:** Oct 02, 2013 at 11:45 PM »

Quote from: metropharm on Oct 02, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Sna friday n para mkapag audio marathon n din with denton

Welcome to the Denton club sir.

stan1196 · « **Reply #148 on:** Oct 04, 2013 at 10:08 PM »

Quote from: metropharm on Oct 04, 2013 at 09:48 PM

salamat sir,natupad n rin pangarap ko mag ka denton.Npaaga ang christmas gift s akin:-)

Wow meron ka na palang Denton.... Welcome to the Denton club.....

metropharm · « **Reply #149 on:** Oct 06, 2013 at 01:12 PM »

thanks sir stan,puyat n nmn k audio marathon