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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #90 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 09:55 AM »
Pwede kaya ang DVD na upscaled from 480i to 720p? Ano kaya ang kalalabasan nun?
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #91 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 10:03 AM »
Pwede kaya ang DVD na upscaled from 480i to 720p? Ano kaya ang kalalabasan nun?

AFAIK, ginagawa ito ng mga media players.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #92 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 10:30 AM »
Same same as watching Standard Def Skycable sa HDTV?

Pwede kaya ang DVD na upscaled from 480i to 720p? Ano kaya ang kalalabasan nun?

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #93 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 10:36 AM »
i think 4k would have to be at least 100gb per movie. hehe. i mean it's 4 times 1080p so ganun siguro expected file size. Kayang kaya pa ng blu ray medium. so far may RW na 128gb na blu ray. BDXL, if I recall correctly. I think they can still add more than just dual layers sa BD so pwede pa talaga mapalaki storage capacity

With HEVC, 50GB (dual-layer BD) may be good enough. Per pixel quality may be comparable to single-layer BD discs at 1080P using AVC. I wish they start using Deep Color too.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #94 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 10:52 AM »
A 100GB 4K content might discourage ripping (for a while).  No ripping, no source, no encode.   ;).   Therefore, 1080p (source) is enough.   ;).  Or maski 4K remaster of 1080p Blu-Rays.  Look how gorgeous the remastered Titanic is.

Sorry OT.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #95 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM »
A 100GB 4K content might discourage ripping (for a while).  No ripping, no source, no encode.   ;).   Therefore, 1080p (source) is enough.   ;).  Or maski 4K remaster of 1080p Blu-Rays.  Look how gorgeous the remastered Titanic is.

Sorry OT.


haha good luck talaga ripping a 100gb file.

OT pa din:

did you notice that there was one scene where the quality of the PQ degraded? Nagkaroon ng soft PQ. forgot which part. Sheesh. haha but overall, great PQ. Wasn't the Alien movie also a 4k remaster?

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #96 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 02:41 PM »
Hahaha, ok lang naman kasi ang may disagreement, basta dapat may support ang claim.
this is what i have in mind when i ask our friend for a blind test :)
I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF I AM PROVEN WRONG, why?  Because we spend a LOT of money for prime disk (bluray or hdd) space tapos wala lang pala :)
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #97 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 02:58 PM »
this is what i have in mind when i ask our friend for a blind test :)
I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF I AM PROVEN WRONG, why?  Because we spend a LOT of money for prime disk (bluray or hdd) space tapos wala lang pala :)

Im huge believer kasi of intellectual property rights kaya i try to stay away from downloads,although i do believe that the disks cost too much kaya rin sila prone to piracy.  Kung paysite galing yung d/l then i wouldnt mind that.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #98 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:02 PM »
Im huge believer kasi of intellectual property rights kaya i try to stay away from downloads,although i do believe that the disks cost too much kaya rin sila prone to piracy.  Kung paysite galing yung d/l then i wouldnt mind that.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #99 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:07 PM »
Si jammy daw ang mag host ng blind test. Puwede ba blind test sa crt 14 inch?
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #100 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 03:08 PM »
Si jammy daw ang mag host ng blind test. Puwede ba blind test sa crt 14 inch?
loko !! tumatawag ako suplada ka nanaman.  di naman ako nauna sa blind test ah!
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #101 on: Jan 22, 2013 at 07:12 PM »
ayan na naman yung magkuya ;D
sorry ot.
kelan ba yang blindtest ng matigil na yang comparison na yan?
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #102 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 07:47 AM »
ayan na naman yung magkuya ;D
sorry ot.
kelan ba yang blindtest ng matigil na yang comparison na yan?

maganda gawin ito sa mga calibrated displays e.g. streetsmarts HT
pati hd audio vs compressed maririnig mo difference, problema lang di mo malaman kung ano mas maganda sa dalawa most of the time ;D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #103 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 08:09 AM »
Natawa ako dito,  I got my answers na from the previous post.

 OT allowed or basaan na lang ng Redwine :)


OT: dito lang naman sa atin mahal yan mga yan bro.  do you think if we were abroad, marami parin gagawa nyan?  pm ko nalang iba info hehehe baka basain tayo redwine ni qguy! :)

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #104 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 08:57 AM »
Natawa ako dito,  I got my answers na from the previous post.

 OT allowed or basaan na lang ng Redwine :)


hahaha ayun naman pala :)
so what was your verdict bro? :)
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #105 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 09:13 AM »
First Verdict : Based on the responses, I can live with the 720p. But this just came up, HD space is so darn cheap right now, it makes no sense to skimp on the source, might as well go for 1080p, gives you the advantage of being close to the screen.

Second Verdict : Based on the last Christmas Party, di ako nalalasing sa Beer and Mountain Dew




hahaha ayun naman pala :)
so what was your verdict bro? :)

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #106 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 09:23 AM »
HDD space relates to the content and has nothing to do with the HDTV.   However, being closer to the screen relates to the HDTV resolution itself and practically nothing to do with the content (in 720p or 1080p or Full BD). 

What?


First Verdict : Based on the responses, I can live with the 720p. But this just came up, HD space is so darn cheap right now, it makes no sense to skimp on the source, might as well go for 1080p, gives you the advantage of being close to the screen.


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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #107 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 09:29 AM »
diba generally 1080p consumes more HD space than its 720p counterpart ?

HDD space relates to the content and has nothing to do with the HDTV.   However, being closer to the screen relates to the HDTV resolution itself and practically nothing to do with the content (in 720p or 1080p or Full BD). 

What?



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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #108 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:28 AM »
Yes, properly encoded 1080p should be bigger than properly encoded 720p in terms of filesize.  But what's that got to do with giving the advantage of being closer to the screen?

diba generally 1080p consumes more HD space than its 720p counterpart ?


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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #109 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:35 AM »
Yes, properly encoded 1080p should be bigger than properly encoded 720p in terms of filesize.  But what's that got to do with giving the advantage of being closer to the screen?


viewing distance siguro ibig sabihin. with 1080 you can be closer to the screen than 720p

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #110 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:51 AM »
Second Verdict : Based on the last Christmas Party, di ako nalalasing sa Beer and Mountain Dew

So ano dapat bro ang ininom mo?  >:D >:D >:D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #111 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM »
1080p content vs 720p content?  Why?

Baka 1080p panel vs 720p panel?

Magagalit sa atin si Barrister.  We are not on the same frequency.  Hehehe

viewing distance siguro ibig sabihin. with 1080 you can be closer to the screen than 720p
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #112 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM »
1080p content vs 720p content?  Why?

Baka 1080p panel vs 720p panel?

Magagalit sa atin si Barrister.  We are not on the same frequency.  Hehehe


exactly, panel nga. onga source pala sabi ni qguy. didn't notice right away. haha

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #113 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 07:18 PM »
First Verdict : Based on the responses, I can live with the 720p. But this just came up, HD space is so darn cheap right now, it makes no sense to skimp on the source, might as well go for 1080p, gives you the advantage of being close to the screen.

if you're compiling or storing movies, then file size would matter kung paubos na ang disk space mo. hehe! Ganayn din ako whenever i have a new HDD. Pero kapag nangangalahati na, pinipili ko na lang yun magagandang movies that would look best on 1080p. But kung drama lang, 720p ako.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #114 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 08:00 PM »
Si jammy daw ang mag host ng blind test. Puwede ba blind test sa crt 14 inch?

sana may bonus blind test.. huhulaan ng member kung intel or amd ang gamit sa pag play ng video.. hehe :D

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #115 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 08:06 PM »
sana may bonus blind test.. huhulaan ng member kung intel or amd ang gamit sa pag play ng video.. hehe :D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #116 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 09:30 PM »
nvidia or ati? fanboy war yan
hihihi..un ung mga hindi makatangap na maganda ang PQ ng ATI vs nvidia...
sa ganyan hindi naman pwede blind test ... side by side comparison...
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #117 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:28 PM »
Is SD good enough for a 50-inch screen?


SD at Actual Size - Very Clear ne!  Looks like high def but kinda like tunnel vision   ;D

SD Fit To Screen at 50 inch - You be the judge    ;)

The world's most hideous cheat in 720p just for reference.








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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #118 on: Jan 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM »
hihihi..un ung mga hindi makatangap na maganda ang PQ ng ATI vs nvidia...
sa ganyan hindi naman pwede blind test ... side by side comparison...

Mukang ATI fanboy ka ah... ;D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #119 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM »
sana may bonus blind test.. huhulaan ng member kung intel or amd ang gamit sa pag play ng video.. hehe :D

Hahaha pati ba naman dito meron ka pa din hirit na ganyan. Di maka get over?  ;) ;) ;)

Is SD good enough for a 50-inch screen?


SD at Actual Size - Very Clear ne!  Looks like high def but kinda like tunnel vision   ;D

SD Fit To Screen at 50 inch - You be the judge    ;)

The world's most hideous cheat in 720p just for reference.









Looking on the picture yah malinaw siya upscaled but not that detailed.  ;) ;) ;)

nvidia or ati? fanboy war yan

Fanboy whos the fanboy then?

hihihi..un ung mga hindi makatangap na maganda ang PQ ng ATI vs nvidia...
sa ganyan hindi naman pwede blind test ... side by side comparison...

Bulagin ko na lang ikaw para blind test talaga.  >:D >:D >:D

loko !! tumatawag ako suplada ka nanaman.  di naman ako nauna sa blind test ah!

Di ako nag sabi ng blind test sa una ewan ko ba. Sama mo na din daw bonus intel vs amd meron ka ba?  >:D >:D

maganda gawin ito sa mga calibrated displays e.g. streetsmarts HT
pati hd audio vs compressed maririnig mo difference, problema lang di mo malaman kung ano mas maganda sa dalawa most of the time ;D

Maganda din gawin sa abot kaya na setup kasi di namin kaya ung setup ni sir mark. Dapat blind test sa kaya ng nakakadami. hahaha

ayan na naman yung magkuya ;D
sorry ot.
kelan ba yang blindtest ng matigil na yang comparison na yan?


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