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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #270 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 10:22 AM »
yeah. That's true. @beknat

kung ikaw ba, napakatalented mo, top 5 player ka sa NBA tapos binigyan ka ng max salary for 5years tapos at the time na mag-eexpire eh binigyan ka ulit ng max contract extension, sasabihin mo bang "ay wag na mga sir, babaan nyo na lang ng mga $15million yung sweldo ko. Ibigay nyo na lang sa iba yung portion ng sweldo ko" ?

Siyempre you'll compare that to your idol Lebron. Mababa yata income tax sa Miami + he earns millions more than Kobe when it comes to endorsements. Bawi-bawi ni Lebron yung "baba" ng sweldo nya sa endorsements na nakukuha nya. Si Kobe, although medjo narehab yung image nya, hindi malakas sa endorsement like Lebron dahil nagkarape case. I still remember na ambilis siyang idrop ng Mcdo, Nike, etc when the news about his rape case came to light.

***and yes papayag siya this time around kasi matanda na siya. Nung nagsign siya ng max contract nya, on top of his game pa siya. Ngayon hindi na.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #271 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 10:55 AM »
Preseason game lang pala yung rockets vs pacers dito sa moa on october? Nevertheless, its going to be interesting to see howard in a rockets uniform by then.

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« Reply #272 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 10:55 AM »
oo nga..para kahit papaano gumanda ang roster ng lakers, chaka pwede naman sya magsalita sa management ng lakers bago sya pumirma ng kontrata na kung ano gusto niya. kung kelan paalis na sya dun pa lang sila magrere-build ng team, sana mejo maaga para kahit papaano natuturuan na ni Mamba ng mga style niya yung ipapalit sa kanya.

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« Reply #273 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 10:57 AM »
Preseason game lang pala yung rockets vs pacers dito sa moa on october? Nevertheless, its going to be interesting to see howard in a rockets uniform by then.

sir lalong magmamahal ang ticket sigurado pag napunta sa Howard sa Rockets, tapos ang Pacers kakagaling lang din sa East Finals.

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« Reply #274 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 10:57 AM »
Preseason game lang pala yung rockets vs pacers dito sa moa on october? Nevertheless, its going to be interesting to see howard in a rockets uniform by then.

Bili na ng ticket idol..  >:D >:D

oo nga..para kahit papaano gumanda ang roster ng lakers, chaka pwede naman sya magsalita sa management ng lakers bago sya pumirma ng kontrata na kung ano gusto niya. kung kelan paalis na sya dun pa lang sila magrere-build ng team, sana mejo maaga para kahit papaano natuturuan na ni Mamba ng mga style niya yung ipapalit sa kanya.

+1

Di naman siguro sobrang baba ang ibibigay kay KB24 still siya pa din franchise player nila. May interview siya na 3 years pa siya mag lalaro.  ;D ;D
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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #275 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:00 AM »
sir lalong magmamahal ang ticket sigurado pag napunta sa Howard sa Rockets, tapos ang Pacers kakagaling lang din sa East Finals.
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« Reply #276 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:02 AM »
May presyo na sir. P550 pinakamura then yung pinakamahal is P32300. Pareserve na tayo ;)
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« Reply #277 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:06 AM »
oo nga..kahit konti lang sana ibaba niya..kung ano kasi gusto ni Kobe binibigay ng management ng Lakers e..pipilitin na ni Kobe makuha yung pang-anim niyang singsing kaya sinabi niya na magtatagal pa sya ng 3 years.desperado na sya, kasi pag tumagal pa sya sa 3 years, mahihirapan na siguro sya.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #278 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:08 AM »
oo nga..para kahit papaano gumanda ang roster ng lakers, chaka pwede naman sya magsalita sa management ng lakers bago sya pumirma ng kontrata na kung ano gusto niya. kung kelan paalis na sya dun pa lang sila magrere-build ng team, sana mejo maaga para kahit papaano natuturuan na ni Mamba ng mga style niya yung ipapalit sa kanya.

Gaano ba kadalas magkaroon ng players like Magic, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron? Bihira. Those players are worth their weight in gold. Max contract players who draw fans to watch games live.

Again, kung ikaw ba nasa situation na ikaw eh top 5 in the NBA papayag ka babaan sweldo mo? Na alam mong binibigay mo lahat ng kaya mo?

Siyempre rebuild talaga dapat gagawin pag mawawala na yung superstar mo coz of old age. Lakers after Magic = rebuild (sinwerte napaiksi rebuilding time coz of Shaq and Kobe), Bulls after Jordan = rebuild. May tinrain ba si Jordan? Wala.

Pag may all-world talent ka, alangan naman magrebuild ka while anjan siya. eh di sinayang mo lang yung years na anjan yung talent na yan sa team mo. WIN NOW mode tawag jan pag you have one of the best players in the league. Future of the team is put in the back seat, picks are traded and big contracts are acquired to surround the all-world talent with the players who will push the team to championship.

Buti sana kung simple lang kumuha ng replacement superstar sa paparetire na superstar. It takes years to find the next superstar talent.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #279 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:11 AM »
oo nga..kahit konti lang sana ibaba niya..kung ano kasi gusto ni Kobe binibigay ng management ng Lakers e..pipilitin na ni Kobe makuha yung pang-anim niyang singsing kaya sinabi niya na magtatagal pa sya ng 3 years.desperado na sya, kasi pag tumagal pa sya sa 3 years, mahihirapan na siguro sya.

Tama pero may karapatan kasi siya na mag price kasi nga franchise player siya and maganda din naman ang binigay niya sa lakers.  >:D >:D

Gaano ba kadalas magkaroon ng players like Magic, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron? Bihira. Those players are worth their weight in gold. Max contract players who draw fans to watch games live.

Again, kung ikaw ba nasa situation na ikaw eh top 5 in the NBA papayag ka babaan sweldo mo? Na alam mong binibigay mo lahat ng kaya mo?

Siyempre rebuild talaga dapat gagawin pag mawawala na yung superstar mo coz of old age. Lakers after Magic = rebuild (sinwerte napaiksi rebuilding time coz of Shaq and Kobe), Bulls after Jordan = rebuild. May tinrain ba si Jordan? Wala.

Pag may all-world talent ka, alangan naman magrebuild ka while anjan siya. eh di sinayang mo lang yung years na anjan yung talent na yan sa team mo. WIN NOW mode tawag jan pag you have one of the best players in the league. Future of the team is put in the back seat, picks are traded and big contracts are acquired to surround the all-world talent with the players who will push the team to championship.

Buti sana kung simple lang kumuha ng replacement superstar sa paparetire na superstar. It takes years to find the next superstar talent.

Tama..  ;D ;D

May presyo na sir. P550 pinakamura then yung pinakamahal is P32300. Pareserve na tayo ;)

Reserve na ang tanung san yung 550?  :o :o :o

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #280 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:17 AM »
iba na kasi ngayon sir, palakasan na ng team ngayon kaya kung hindi ka kaagad magrere-build ng team mawawala ka sa circulation, e paano kung walang makuha ang Lakers katulad niya, edi magiging kawawa lang ang Lakers, chaka sir pwede din naman mas maaga mag-rebuild para mas matutukan mo yung player na makukuha mo, pwede naman turuan ang player e, pwede mo naman gawin yung ginawa ni Phil kay Jordan at Kobe nuon na sila lang ang parating pinapatira, so pag tumagal-tagal magiging ganun din ang laro nun.

chaka sir kung ako ung nasa sitwasyon, oo papayag ako na magpapababa kahit KONTI lang, para hindi naman masyado mahirapan ang katawan ko pag naglalaro. para meron din nmn gumagawa sa team hindi puro ako. pati pa naman sa pera ayaw niya magbigay.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #281 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:24 AM »
iba na kasi ngayon sir, palakasan na ng team ngayon kaya kung hindi ka kaagad magrere-build ng team mawawala ka sa circulation, e paano kung walang makuha ang Lakers katulad niya, edi magiging kawawa lang ang Lakers, chaka sir pwede din naman mas maaga mag-rebuild para mas matutukan mo yung player na makukuha mo, pwede naman turuan ang player e, pwede mo naman gawin yung ginawa ni Phil kay Jordan at Kobe nuon na sila lang ang parating pinapatira, so pag tumagal-tagal magiging ganun din ang laro nun.

chaka sir kung ako ung nasa sitwasyon, oo papayag ako na magpapababa kahit KONTI lang, para hindi naman masyado mahirapan ang katawan ko pag naglalaro. para meron din nmn gumagawa sa team hindi puro ako. pati pa naman sa pera ayaw niya magbigay.

I guess that's why you'll always be critical that Kobe got a max salary- kasi for you napakadali lang i-give up yung millions of dollars. Kasi kung ako yun, I would get what is due to me. If non-top 5 players like Lewis, Joe Johnson can get max contracts, why can't I? Ganun lang kasimple yun. Yung teams, i-onoffer siya ng max contract for his services. Hindi nya kaslanan yun na ganun yung offer sakanya. You must probably think na si Kobe nagpresyo sa sarili nya na max contract siya. Yung market (i.e. teams) yung nagbigay ng value sa talent nya.

Anyway, you'll never understand as long as you think it's easy to give up millions of dollars that you actually deserve. hehe

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #282 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:26 AM »
Gaano ba kadalas magkaroon ng players like Magic, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron? Bihira. Those players are worth their weight in gold.

Ok na sana but nandun si Kobe.   ;D  As good as Kobe is, there will always be a 6'6"/6'7" shooting guard with athletic ability who needs to shoot in volumes to score a bunch..... in a word, generic.

Magic a 6'9" point guard....never again siguro.  Jordan of course no question.  Lebron a power forward body who combines both speed and strentgh.... those players revolutionized the game.

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #283 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:27 AM »
Ok na sana but nandun si Kobe.   ;D  As good as Kobe is, there will always be a 6'6"/6'7" shooting guard with athletic ability who needs to shoot in volumes to score a bunch..... in a word, generic.

Magic a 6'9" point guard....never again siguro.  Jordan of course no question.  Lebron a power forward body who combines both speed and strentgh.... those players revolutionized the game.

haha

i understand you dislike Kobe but are you insinuating that Kobe is like VC (or any other SG with the same height) lang in terms of talent?
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« Reply #284 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:31 AM »
sir sa tingin mo hindi din sya nagsabi ng presyo niya?
hindi ko naman sinisisi si Mamba, pero sana naisip din niya ung Lakers for the future, max contract ka nga kaso yung team mo naman nahihirapan mag-rebuild. e pano pag wala si Kobe..yung management din ang may kasalanan talaga, kasi binibigay lahat nila kay Mamba lahat. sympre si Mamba tanggap lang ng tanggap, parang bola lang yan e, parati si Mamba lang ang tumatanggap.

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« Reply #285 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:33 AM »
haha

i understand you dislike Kobe but are you insinuating that Kobe is like VC (or any other SG with the same height) lang in terms of talent?

Not insinuating that at all.  Hahahaha! Kobe is good but has not really revolutionized the game.  He is better than Carter of course.  If one thing...Kobe is the most durable player of all time still playing at a high level in his 17th season.  But years after he retires, I don't know if he will be remembered as somesone who has put his personal stamp on the game.  I don't know if he can shake the impression that he is a poor man's Jordan.  And in that list, Kobe is the one with only 1 MVP.
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« Reply #286 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 11:54 AM »
sir sa tingin mo hindi din sya nagsabi ng presyo niya?
hindi ko naman sinisisi si Mamba, pero sana naisip din niya ung Lakers for the future, max contract ka nga kaso yung team mo naman nahihirapan mag-rebuild. e pano pag wala si Kobe..yung management din ang may kasalanan talaga, kasi binibigay lahat nila kay Mamba lahat. sympre si Mamba tanggap lang ng tanggap, parang bola lang yan e, parati si Mamba lang ang tumatanggap.

Again, market nga ang nagsasabi ng value nya. alangan naman di siya bibigyan ng max contract eh yung ibang teams na gustong kunin si Kobe max contract inooffer. And it's not the player's job to be the ward of the team's future. Trabaho yan ng GM, hindi ng player. Dapat pala si Jordan di na tumanggap ng 30million nung last few years nya sa Bulls para naman magkachance na magrebuild din *this is your line of thinking*.

Market value ni Kobe yun. Kung tingin ng Lakers di sila magbebenefit dun, eh di nagpass na sana sila. Pero this is a business first before being a basketball team. win-win yun for them na kunin si Kobe at max. Kobe draws in the fans, value for talent, etc etc.

Not insinuating that at all.  Hahahaha! Kobe is good but has not really revolutionized the game.  He is better than Carter of course.  If one thing...Kobe is the most durable player of all time still playing at a high level in his 17th season.  But years after he retires, I don't know if he will be remembered as somesone who has put his personal stamp on the game.  I don't know if he can shake the impression that he is a poor man's Jordan.  And in that list, Kobe is the one with only 1 MVP.

Indeed, poor man's Jordan nga. Everyone was searching for the next MJ after he left but there will never be another one like Mike. If everyone in the same frame as Jordan is compared to him, they'll all be second-best.

I'd say he would've had won one more MVP (supposedly his first **this was in '06 when he posted crazy stats in points) when the media gave it to Nash (I guess because of team record + no Amare).

I guess Kobe will only be remembered for his crazy 81-point game after a few decades. Definitely not as remarkable as Jordan's accomplishments when it comes to individual accolades. But to say na generic type siya, medjo undermined naman na masiyado yung talent nya nun.

Generic would be - Derozan, OJ Mayo (ok pandak siya for an SG), Vince Carter, T-Mac (although 6'8" siya), Jason Richardson and the likes. haha
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« Reply #287 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:01 PM »
sana tulungan niya din ang Lakers sa pag-rerebuild.

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« Reply #288 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:03 PM »
sana tulungan niya din ang Lakers sa pag-rerebuild.

haha

not his job pero he will take a salary cut after his contract ends. He is not longer a max-contract player. :D

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« Reply #289 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:14 PM »
Chris Paul has verbally agreed to 5-year, $107 million contract with Clippers.

Mike Dunleavy has agreed to terms with the Chicago Bulls for 2 years, $6 million, according to ESPN's Marc Stein

Andray Blatche has agreed to a one-year deal with the Nets, per Howard Beck.

C.J. Watson has agreed to two-year deal with Pacers, per David Aldridge.

Eric Maynor has agreed to a multi-year deal with the Wizards , per Michael Lee.

Pelicans reportedly offer Tyreke Evans 4yr $40-48 million
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« Reply #290 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:31 PM »
sana tulungan niya din ang Lakers sa pag-rerebuild.

asa pa... eh ang taas ng ego niyan...
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« Reply #291 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:32 PM »
Marc Stein: Three meetings in books for @Dwight Howard. Rockets, Hawks and now Warriors have all completed their face-to-face recruiting presentations

Dave McMenamin: According to a source familiar with Dwight's meeting w/ HOU, the Rockets discussed TV opportunities for DH on Comcast SportsNet Houston

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« Reply #292 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:38 PM »
trivia- mj 6/6 finals mvp. Never lost in the finals.never even had to play game7.

Lbj kobe shaq magic larry kareem bill etc all lost in an nba final.

Amen.

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« Reply #293 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:43 PM »
trivia- mj 6/6 finals mvp. Never lost in the finals.never even had to play game7.

Lbj kobe shaq magic larry kareem bill etc all lost in an nba final.

Amen.

Among that list, who were the regular season MVP, Finals MVP and won the title in the same season? :D

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« Reply #294 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 12:59 PM »
I don't think nyk is willing to trade chandler, he is a locker room leader and they only have 2 key d players (shump being the other one).. Without him nets will easily win the division.. The player they want to let go is amare, the question is kung may kakakagat sa trade.. :)..
problema sa scenario na yan bro,e NYK lagi ang kumakagat sa walang kwentang trades,the toronto trade na lang e.

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« Reply #295 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 01:01 PM »
trivia- mj 6/6 finals mvp. Never lost in the finals.never even had to play game7.

Lbj kobe shaq magic larry kareem bill etc all lost in an nba final.

Amen.

tama bossing ;D
tsaka hindi sukatan ng galing kung ilang mvp ka meron.....its the champioship that youve won. si malone nga 2 eh wala namang championship. si nash wala din. si lbj 4 nga saka isat kalahating championship, yung padalawa...chamba eh ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #296 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 01:06 PM »
ang team nasusukat kung ilan ang champion,
ang player nasusukat kung ilan ang mvp.

may the hate rest in peace.
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« Reply #297 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 01:15 PM »
Among that list, who were the regular season MVP, Finals MVP and won the title in the same season? :D

2 for MJ and 2 for LBJ (and itlog for Kobe  >:D >:D)

ang team nasusukat kung ilan ang champion,
ang player nasusukat kung ilan ang mvp.

may the hate rest in peace.

Boooooooooomm!!! 100000x

if that is the case... then... LBJ (4 mvp) is superior than Kobe (1 mvp  >:D )...
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« Reply #298 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 01:20 PM »
tama bossing ;D
tsaka hindi sukatan ng galing kung ilang mvp ka meron.....its the champioship that youve won. si malone nga 2 eh wala namang championship. si nash wala din. si lbj 4 nga saka isat kalahating championship, yung padalawa...chamba eh ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's not that black and white.  Jerry West, Oscar Robertson and Julius Erving only had 1 title if I am not mistaken. But they are generally considered to be in the top 10 of all time.

Also the NBA's 50 greatest players in history include players with no rings.  Dapat ba palitan sa NBA 50 sina Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Baylor with Kerr, Horry, Michael Cooper, Ron Harper, Fisher, Will Purue?

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Re: NBA 2013-2014 <OFFSEASON>
« Reply #299 on: Jul 02, 2013 at 01:23 PM »
......parang si nash at si malone daig si kobe kse isa lang mvp!  ;D ;D
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